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Preparation for Victory Parade

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Parade calculations throughout Russia began intensive preparations for the Victory Parade. The administration of Vladivostok reports that from this day and until 7 in May in the capital of Primorye parade rehearsals will take place, in which several thousand servicemen representing various types and types of troops will take part. The highlight of the program promises to be the performance of several military orchestras, which will delight citizens with musical works dedicated to the Great Patriotic War. Today, anyone can download music about war using special sites on the Internet. There are also works performed at the Victory Parades of different years.




About 11 thousand troops will take part in the Moscow Parade. Intensive training began on April 8th. The organizers of the Victory Parade pay much attention to the issue of passing military equipment along Moscow streets. So that the asphalt does not collapse due to the pressure of the tracks of the armored vehicles, they (the tracks) are “shod” in special rubber similarities to the covers, which will take the main pressure on themselves. A similar practice has been used before, but this time it is reported that the rubber elements on the tracks tanks and other units of armored vehicles will be made of special rubber with alloying from strengthening chemical compounds.

To pressure armored vehicles did not have a negative impact on subways and entrances to the subway, it was decided to strengthen the entrances along the path of the future movement of military equipment. In particular, the fortification touched the entrance to the metro station in the very center of the capital - Okhotny Ryad.

To increase the security measures, the Moscow authorities decided to take serious measures. They banned the sale of alcoholic beverages in all shops without exception, which are located along the path of movement of military equipment. This is due to the fact that a few years ago drunken youngsters in one of the districts of Moscow tried to break through the cordon and imitate an attack on tanks with empty beer bottles made of glass. Hooligans were detained on time, but the case was not without abrasions and bruises from other viewers and even law enforcement officers.

Today, Victory Parade training, which will be held on May 9 in the capital, is held in Alabino. This is a town in the Naro-Fominsky district of the Moscow region, where the training ground is located.
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  1. Nevsky
    Nevsky April 16 2013 11: 34
    +3
    It seems they promised that BTR-82A will take part in the parade what
    1. ShturmKGB
      ShturmKGB April 16 2013 11: 47
      15
      The parade is needed, especially in modern times of propaganda of lies about the Second World War in the Western media ... so that young people would know ...
      1. Ghenxnumx
        Ghenxnumx April 16 2013 12: 10
        +2
        ShturmKGB
        The parade is needed, especially in modern times of propaganda of lies about the Second World War in the Western media ... so that young people would know ...

        It is absolutely necessary, and there is nothing to involve again the so-called "allies" from NATO in the parade - in fact, they adhered to the parade, when they caught it, that they would remain at the trough if they did not open a real 2nd front. No matter how much I read, I did not understand how the puppet government of France got into the lists of winners, especially considering the fact that a couple of French divisions fought on the side of Germany.
        1. Waterfall
          Waterfall April 16 2013 14: 46
          -2
          Quote: Ghen75
          how the puppet government of France got on the list of winners

          De Gaulle - "puppet government" ???
          Quote: Ghen75
          actually clung to

          Yes, yes, one Red Army failed all.
          1. Michael-89
            Michael-89 April 16 2013 15: 22
            +2
            Among the so-called haters, there is an opinion that there are no allies and not allies at all, and there was no lend-lease, yeah, yeah.
            1. Egoza
              Egoza April 16 2013 17: 40
              +3
              At the Victory Parade in 1945, were allied units? Not? Well, now they have nothing to do there!
          2. datur
            datur April 16 2013 16: 45
            +4
            De Gaulle - "puppet government" ?? - yes !!!!! the French were lucky with him, if not for him and the will of STALIN yes be the French in the camp of the defeated !!! laughing BECAUSE Vichy the official government of France were allies of Hitler !!!! yes
          3. Alexander Petrovich
            Alexander Petrovich April 16 2013 20: 01
            +3
            The USSR was the main winner, the main army in the Second World War, the rest were auxiliary.
            1. Cyanide
              Cyanide April 16 2013 20: 35
              -4
              Did you say so ortr or rtr?
              1. Contrpropaganda
                Contrpropaganda April 16 2013 22: 02
                +2
                We were told the facts.
              2. Felix200970
                Felix200970 April 16 2013 22: 23
                +2
                Quote: Cyanide
                Did you say so ortr or rtr?

                My grandparents told me two of whom were alive at the time of my birth, and two were in a mass grave. And, dear, do not joke about it. Watch TV with western channels less. May help negative
              3. dddym
                dddym April 16 2013 22: 28
                -1
                Very interesting, did you get any other information on shienen? Can you tell us how you stopped the Germans at Stalingrad and then Bush personally carried out Operation Bagration ???
          4. d.gksueyjd
            d.gksueyjd April 16 2013 23: 55
            +2
            Read the story, France fought against the coalition on the side of Germany.
            Quote: Wasserfall
            how the puppet government of France got on the winner list
            If we compare the number of troops of France who fought against fascism and for Germany, then the figure against is much smaller. Most likely France was introduced to increase the territory of the western sector during the partition of Germany, and to reduce the reparation of the USSR
          5. d.gksueyjd
            d.gksueyjd April 17 2013 00: 02
            +2
            Quote: Wasserfall
            Yes, yes, one Red Army failed all

            Compare the losses of the Allies and Germany on the Western Front (with Africa), with the losses of the Red Army and Germany with the satellites on the Eastern Front. Maybe then you will understand WHO and at what cost you WIN. If you do not understand, alas, you are incorrigible.
            1. Waterfall
              Waterfall April 17 2013 00: 11
              -3
              Quote: d.gksueyjd
              with losses of the Red Army

              no need to give out wretchedness for virtue
              Quote: d.gksueyjd
              WHO and at what cost

              According to the results in the complex - the states. But not a dilapidated alliance.
              1. d.gksueyjd
                d.gksueyjd April 17 2013 00: 26
                0
                It is a pity that you have a bad math, In Russia you can’t accept to offend the wretched and sick.
        2. Mikado
          Mikado April 16 2013 15: 32
          +3
          Quote: Ghen75
          No matter how much I read, I still did not understand how the puppet government of France got into the lists of winners, especially considering the fact that a couple of French divisions fought on the side of Germany.


          They didn't read well. The main role in "this" was played by Stalin, who saw in De Gaulle as a counterweight to the British and Americans, foresaw that he would behave independently, and not stupidly dance to their tune, which, in general, was justified in the future. The British wanted to make France a semi-independent state, Stalin did not allow this to be done.
        3. dmitreach
          dmitreach April 16 2013 22: 04
          +2
          Ghenxnumx,
          how the puppet government of France got on the list of winners

          Absolutely the same as Poland or could have got Judas Vlasov.
          Politics.
          But De Gaulle was useful to us. Unlike Naglia and Omerigi.
      2. Russian
        Russian April 16 2013 12: 13
        +6
        I wanted to publish an article about veterans just in exactly a month, but they didn’t accept it. I criticize too much power, but oh well, then I will write in the comments.
        Regarding the fact that our youth now know, they are living in our ministry of education:
        1. Alikovo
          Alikovo April 16 2013 12: 30
          +7
          these are all the consequences of Fursenko’s reforms in the field of education: it’s a shame not to know Zhukov, Rokossovsky,
          V. Zaitseva, Gastello, only one knows everyone, but the rest know Sobchak, Moiseev, and Zverev. belay
          1. Michael-89
            Michael-89 April 16 2013 13: 00
            +2
            Yeah, and that girl under twenty, too, suffered from Fursenko. And that dude who is 25 years old too.
            1. evgenii67
              evgenii67 April 16 2013 14: 22
              0
              I haven't watched the video yet (I'll come home to watch it), but I can roughly imagine what it is about. Let me say - it COULD BE worse. perhaps history is not a "strong point" of the young people being surveyed, perhaps they are strong in mathematics, foreign languages, literature ..... I bet that not all of them are poor students and truants. Personally, I love history, but for example I know people (far from stupid people) who study foreign languages, respectively, history, the literature of states (and I know a person who speaks German, French and a little worse English), but when I ask some a historical moment, or in terms of geography everything is stupor - it surprises me to this day, that's how studying in. languages ​​do not know geography - for example (what this person can show where France, Germany, Great Britain, Russia is not knowledge yet), but to ask where Wales or Serbia are all kirdyk, what to talk about next, as they say, comments needed?
          2. A. Yaga
            A. Yaga April 16 2013 14: 54
            +2
            belay
            The latest joke about the Minister of Education (!) "The fact that I swear is a complete *** nya." what
          3. cumastra1
            cumastra1 April 16 2013 16: 05
            0
            I dare to correct: Zhukov, Rokossovsky, Zaitsev, Gastello, I completely agree with the rest.
        2. JonnyT
          JonnyT April 16 2013 12: 35
          +3
          Have come .... (degradation on the face where their parents look ....
          1. Ivan.
            Ivan. April 16 2013 14: 42
            +3
            It seems that no one here has heard of the laws, textbooks introduced by our "friends" as soon as the USSR was destroyed. This is all a consequence of the occupation regime, the consequences of which will have to be fought for a long time. The situation in education is no better than the situation in the economy.
        3. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov April 16 2013 12: 40
          +4
          This video needs to be shown to Putin, otherwise he talks about the correctness of the education reform. They know Moiseyev, but those to whom they owe their lives are not. Here we have such a reform of education, alas.
          1. Michael-89
            Michael-89 April 16 2013 13: 07
            +1
            Reform is not the issue. The point is in society.
            1. zanoza
              zanoza April 16 2013 13: 24
              +3
              Here is the ETA part, the celebration of Victory Day, no less significant. yes
              1. zanoza
                zanoza April 16 2013 13: 31
                +4
                On mass graves do not put crosses
                And the widows do not cry on them, -
                To them, someone brings bouquets of flowers,
                And the eternal flame is lit ...

                V.Vysotsky

                These kids will be know and most importantly REMEMBER!
          2. Apollo
            Apollo April 16 2013 18: 42
            +1
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            This video needs to be shown to Putin, otherwise he talks about the correctness of the education reform.


            What kind of education reform can we talk about when the minister and not just the minister of education, Livanov gave such a thing ......... 28 second, SHAME !!! Maybe President of the Russian Federation V.V. Putin to send such a minister to the eternal ban? !

        4. Andrey77
          Andrey77 April 16 2013 13: 48
          +2
          The roller is possibly mounted, i.e. They showed those who were completely oak-oak, and who answered correctly - were cut out. But even so many unknowing people are amazing. They did not open a history textbook at all.
          1. Andy
            Andy April 16 2013 14: 00
            +1
            Quote: Andrey77
            The roller is possibly mounted, i.e. showed those who are completely oak-oak, and who answered correctly - cut out


            and you’ll conduct your survey. Look, you’ll be horrified.
        5. dmitreach
          dmitreach April 16 2013 22: 10
          0
          Russian, insanely beautiful. mlя! look sick. am
  2. Dmitry 2246
    Dmitry 2246 April 16 2013 11: 39
    +1
    The kids appeared at the parade.
  3. Gari
    Gari April 16 2013 11: 39
    11
    May 9th Great and my favorite holiday, since childhood I love the parade
    1. Captain Vrungel
      Captain Vrungel April 16 2013 12: 31
      +3
      After this material, I was drawn to climb into my father's album and see a photo of the first, in honor of the 20th anniversary of the Victory Parade on May 9, 1965. My father said that they were preparing for May 1, but an order came to postpone the parade to May 9 and increase the parade crew by 2 times. Before the parade, the ceremonial crew were awarded medals "20th Anniversary of Victory in the Great Patriotic War." At least at the parade we will see the Red Banners of the glorified units of our grandfathers and great-grandfathers who defeated fascism. (It is a pity, not to the end. It does not come out in defeated Germany (where prohibited by law), but in our victorious countries).
  4. NAV-STAR
    NAV-STAR April 16 2013 11: 40
    -3
    URA URA URA !!!
  5. Warchief
    Warchief April 16 2013 11: 45
    62 th
    This circus would have been banned. The same thing every year. Already tired. They made a cult out of the holiday.
    1. Wedmak
      Wedmak April 16 2013 11: 47
      39
      I would personally smash your face for this message.
      1. Prokop
        Prokop April 16 2013 11: 56
        +3
        Quote: Wedmak
        I would personally smash your face for this message.

        First face ...
      2. Ghenxnumx
        Ghenxnumx April 16 2013 12: 13
        +5
        Quote: Wedmak
        I would personally smash your face for this message.

        Judging by the rather big nose, for him to get in the face is the norm. angry
      3. zao74
        zao74 April 16 2013 12: 25
        +4
        Only in order of priority.
    2. Vanek
      Vanek April 16 2013 11: 48
      12
      You should command poppies in Borneo, and not write all sorts of nonsense.

      Circus? And the memory of grandfathers is also a circus?

      Tired of it? Go to Europe, there are gay parades.

      Tired of it? Do not look.
      1. Prokop
        Prokop April 16 2013 12: 01
        0
        Quote: Vanek
        You should command poppies in Borneo, and not write all sorts of nonsense.

        According to the statements, it’s more familiar to him to obey macaques, the rhetoric of the State Department pupil.
    3. Nevsky
      Nevsky April 16 2013 11: 49
      13
      Warchief Okay, I have Russophobes and anti-Soviet people in Ukraine with Russian surnames and names who decided to integrate into Ukraine and Europe, but you are with the flag of the Russian Federation, why are you throwing mud at this resource, everything related to the army and the Motherland? Are you an agent of influence designed to bring pessimistic and defeatist sentiments to this site ?! Your style: "And Baba Yaga is against" And in every topic, which gives you every right to call you a custom troL! bully
    4. Ragnarek
      Ragnarek April 16 2013 11: 49
      +4
      and what doesn’t suit you? didn’t they win? you're probably one of the lovers of Bavarian and Russia that we lost. Tip: crunch French bun on the sites of like-minded people or go to Kirov, there tomorrow your Fuhrer will be judged
      1. Warchief
        Warchief April 17 2013 12: 13
        0
        Quote: Ragnarek
        didn’t they win?

        Yes. In WW2, the Americans defeated. And they have no cult of victory.
    5. Russian
      Russian April 16 2013 11: 49
      +6
      Circus?! This is the memory of the Great Victory, which we got at a very high price. In your opinion, is it better to do nothing? Let us then remove the eternal lights.
    6. awerkiev
      awerkiev April 16 2013 11: 51
      +6
      Do you even give an account of your words !? This is actually our pride and history! Maybe I haven't heard, there is such a popular wisdom "The history must be remembered, there is a possibility of its repetition"
    7. feanor
      feanor April 16 2013 11: 54
      +6
      Quote: Warchief
      This circus would have been banned. The same thing every year. Already tired. They made a cult out of the holiday.

      Gibbons of all sorts do not understand the meaning of the holiday, well, do not celebrate it, you can not watch the parade, but I still continue to celebrate it because for me it makes sense to celebrate it.
    8. Deepree
      Deepree April 16 2013 11: 56
      20 th
      Of course, Borneo knows better what kind of cult there is, yes. But overall, the monkeys are a little right.
      1. Vanek
        Vanek April 16 2013 11: 59
        +5
        Quote: DeepFreeze
        But overall, the monkeys are a little right.


        FOR WHAT ???
        1. feanor
          feanor April 16 2013 12: 02
          +3
          Quote: Vanek
          Quote: DeepFreeze
          But overall, the monkeys are a little right.


          FOR WHAT ???

          So I wonder where he is right there ...
        2. Deepree
          Deepree April 16 2013 12: 03
          27 th
          At the expense of the circus. Mummers veterans and clowns from head to toe covered with St. George ribbons. Do you want to see it? Personally, I do not.
          1. Vanek
            Vanek April 16 2013 12: 06
            10
            Quote: DeepFreeze
            Mummers veterans and clowns from head to toe covered with St. George ribbons. Do you want to see it? Personally, I do not.


            Hey, you, b "" "th, ... moral. I have two grandfathers did not die, so that today people like you were sitting and" "nude carried.

            Do you want to see? B "" "don't look.
            1. Deepree
              Deepree April 16 2013 12: 09
              -7
              No * neither. I myself with deep reverence for real veterans, but not for mummers clowns with fake awards.
              1. Vanek
                Vanek April 16 2013 12: 15
                +4
                I could still understand when you called the Leader, but here it is deep frozen, yeah.

                Or frostbitten? How right?

                Quote: DeepFreeze
                with deep respect


                do you even know what it is? Respect and respect?

                Mummers .... Ugh b "" "f! With you even talking is not a hunt after that.
                1. Deepree
                  Deepree April 16 2013 12: 22
                  +1
                  Quote: Vanek
                  when you called the Leader

                  And when did I call the leader? If you're talking about a monkey, it's not me. I passed comments and couldn’t help but get involved, because unfortunately, you can’t write anonymously.
                  Quote: Vanek
                  do you even know what it is?

                  I know what is it.
                  Quote: Vanek
                  Mummers .... Ugh b "" "f!

                  That is, you deny that there are disguised veterans, such as this grandmother, about whom episodes were played on a box and sucked in the media?
                  1. Vanek
                    Vanek April 16 2013 12: 36
                    +1
                    Quote: DeepFreeze
                    about a monkey - it's not me.


                    Cho 3,14 get it then? Date of registration, date of last visit. Do not look for logic in this. The leader disappeared from the site - appeared frostbitten. ... Neither is this, well, well. Tell this grandmother with a photo.
                    1. Chieftain
                      Chieftain April 16 2013 12: 57
                      -1
                      Quote: Vanek
                      The leader disappeared from the site - appeared frostbitten

                      They themselves made me a mess. What else could I do but disappear?
                      1. Vanek
                        Vanek April 16 2013 13: 00
                        +2
                        Quote: Chieftain
                        What else could I do but disappear?


                        Read one of today's flocks and behave yourself decently.

                        Your further excuses will not fail!
                      2. Chieftain
                        Chieftain April 16 2013 13: 08
                        +1
                        Quote: Vanek
                        Your further excuses will not fail!

                        Even as they will.
                      3. Vanek
                        Vanek April 16 2013 13: 10
                        0
                        Quote: Chieftain
                        Even as they will.


                        III.
                      4. Chieftain
                        Chieftain April 16 2013 13: 14
                        0
                        Are you a donkey today?
                      5. Vanek
                        Vanek April 16 2013 13: 15
                        0
                        Quote: Chieftain
                        You


                        Is all your excuse?
          2. Bronis
            Bronis April 16 2013 13: 25
            +1
            Quote: DeepFreeze
            That is, you deny that there are disguised veterans, such as this grandmother, about whom episodes were played on a box and sucked in the media?

            Right! Let's cancel Victory Day because of her! The granny, most likely, the psyche is not in order. But the media, which sucked all this with bile and profuse salivation, have no conscience. and this is worse ...
          3. taseka
            taseka April 16 2013 13: 35
            +2
            Why should the guys argue and insult each other a little because of a clearly old and sick old woman who must have dressed her husband’s tunic that has already departed to the other world and fastened on what she bought at the Kazan station, she stomped on to the parade - she’s sick and this is a question of morality and the work of social services - and if everyone doesn’t care and on Red Square with the president she is already, then we will forgive her psyche - after all, she is for Victory !!!!
            1. Chieftain
              Chieftain April 16 2013 14: 03
              0
              If this old woman was alone. In Moscow, these false wipers will be typed into two platoons, and besides Moscow there are also other cities.
  • Akhtuba73
    Akhtuba73 April 16 2013 13: 42
    +1
    Quote: DeepFreeze
    But overall, the monkeys are a little right.

    Here's another ... It's hard without insults, I'll try. A person has a border that can never be crossed !!! This is memory and gratitude to those who gave their lives for YOU !!! You and Monkey crossed this line. Someone in vain gave their lives for such $$ !! $$.
    Both to hell!
  • Pilot200809
    Pilot200809 April 16 2013 12: 32
    +4
    Warchief -So you go to your mattress homosexuals, you will participate in gay parades. It's time, my own ..... have you already trained? It is necessary to be included in the case, otherwise the western pi .... sy for you missed. Ragged you are a "suit for the genital organ". (it's still affectionate) The photo on the avatar matches the content. And change the flag, NOT WORTHY.
    1. Warchief
      Warchief April 17 2013 12: 13
      +1
      Quote: Pilot200809
      And change the flag, NOT WORTH.

      Replaced. That's better?
  • Alikovo
    Alikovo April 16 2013 12: 33
    +1
    what are you the most memorable day of the year
  • Rebus
    Rebus April 16 2013 12: 33
    +4
    Quote: Warchief
    This circus would have been banned. The same thing every year. Already tired. They made a cult out of the holiday.
    Where did you get so much bile from?
    Military parades are a normal world practice ... For example, a military parade in the city of Long Beach (USA):


    And also in other countries:
    FranceFrance

    England
    1. Gari
      Gari April 16 2013 18: 28
      +2
      Quote: Rebus
      Where did you get so much bile from?
      Military parades are a normal world practice ... For example, a military parade in the city of Long Beach (USA):

      I agree that other parades are also
      But we only have Victory Parades !!!
  • Alikovo
    Alikovo April 16 2013 13: 07
    +1
    You are a memorable day.
  • Bronis
    Bronis April 16 2013 13: 19
    +3
    Quote: Warchief
    This circus would have been banned. The same thing every year. Already tired. They made a cult out of the holiday.

    Cult? And rightly so. Let there be a cult. But not the cult of gaskets, hamburgers and perverts, but the cult of Victory. Those people who gave us the opportunity to live - it’s a sin not to bow !!!
    Love trolling - please, if it's nice. But not on the same topic, the right word ...
  • aviamed90
    aviamed90 April 16 2013 13: 26
    +3
    You dear, what, people provoke?
  • omsbon
    omsbon April 16 2013 13: 28
    +2
    Quote: Warchief
    This circus would have been banned. The same thing every year. Already tired. They made a cult out of the holiday.

    Please tell me in line to beat you face, who is the last? After me you can not borrow!
    1. Vanek
      Vanek April 16 2013 13: 32
      +2
      Quote: omsbon
      After me you can not borrow!


      Will it be possible to kick? Let lying. In this case, this does not change the situation.
  • Barvetum
    Barvetum April 16 2013 13: 59
    +2
    You would be bureaucratic, for these words you would cut off the language and cram it to hell. This is not a cult, it is a tribute to those thanks to whom we live now.
    1. Warchief
      Warchief April 17 2013 12: 04
      +1
      This is exactly what a cult is. Putenka, tapes and DIDA WAYALI в наличии.
  • evgenii67
    evgenii67 April 16 2013 14: 46
    0
    Quote: Warchief
    This circus would have been banned.

    The parade should be held even when more than one veteran will not survive, all this is our HISTORY, our memory. The circus, well, unless the training is serious, they really train to automatism like in a circus, therefore it looks so strong, I don’t know about you, but when I watch the parade, goosebumps and overwhelming feelings of pride, although you hardly understand it.
  • Know-nothing
    Know-nothing April 16 2013 19: 00
    0
    They made a cult right out of the holiday

    It is curious that in the Soviet Union the victory parade was held only 4 times - in the anniversary 1965, 1975, 1985 and 1990 years.
    Then in Russia in the jubilee 1995, and in June 1996 there were presidential elections. Obviously, in order to squeeze a couple percent from Zyuganov’s commies, Yeltsin broke the tradition of half a century and held a parade in 1996, and away we go ...
    1. Know-nothing
      Know-nothing April 16 2013 19: 06
      0
      I remember the indignation of then still real, military, veterans - they say, the pension is cheap, and they spend money on parades.
    2. d.gksueyjd
      d.gksueyjd April 17 2013 00: 16
      0
      In vain you dragged this go, and his raised hand looks like a fascist greeting
      1. Know-nothing
        Know-nothing April 17 2013 05: 37
        0
        What was, it was, you won’t erase words from the song. It was from Yeltsin’s filing (and most likely, on the advice of his PR team) that the annual victory parades went, eventually turning into a ritual.

        But the photo is generally wonderful - spirituality, warriors and a red flag on the background of Yeltsin.
  • dmitreach
    dmitreach April 16 2013 22: 21
    0

    This circus would have been banned.

    DO NOT FEED TROLL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • de klermon
    de klermon April 16 2013 22: 27
    0
    Surprisingly speaking you have an avatar! Indeed, as in a circus ...
  • Standard Oil
    Standard Oil April 16 2013 11: 52
    0
    As far as I remember, the first parade was held in September after the victory over militaristic Japan, let’s say so we finished all things and then walked a bit.
    1. max73
      max73 April 16 2013 11: 58
      +4
      June 24, 1945 - the first Victory Parade
    2. max73
      max73 April 16 2013 19: 46
      +1
      ETOGES how old are you now, aksakal?))))
  • JonnyT
    JonnyT April 16 2013 11: 58
    +3
    Great, just after the drill drill pulled up (everyone will lose weight))))
    In general, it is beautiful, but the main thing is that no one is forgotten, nothing is forgotten.
  • aszzz888
    aszzz888 April 16 2013 12: 03
    +5
    The parade is sacred! And not "circus" and "cult", but tears of Victory of the few remaining veterans. Let's forget history, descendants will not forgive. And the more children at the Parades, the longer the human memory will be.
  • Canep
    Canep April 16 2013 12: 36
    +1
    To pressure armored vehicles did not have a negative impact on subways and entrances to the subway, it was decided to strengthen the entrances along the path of the future movement of military equipment. In particular, the fortification touched the entrance to the metro station in the very center of the capital - Okhotny Ryad.
    The tank weighs 42 tons, the truck weighs 40 tons + 15 tons tractor + 3 tons trailer. In order for the trucks to travel around Moscow, no additional measures are required to strengthen anything. I suspect the "reinforcement of the entrances" (as if the tanks will go through the entrances to the subway) was invented in order to rip off the grandmother.
    1. Mikado
      Mikado April 16 2013 15: 51
      +1
      Is the tank the heaviest equipment? As far as I know, the weight of the poplar-la launcher is about 120 tons
  • SCS
    SCS April 16 2013 12: 36
    +1
    The parade is a tribute, a tribute to those who provided life for us, our children ... !!! and those for whom the victory parade is a circus must be crushed, as grandfathers and great-grandfathers crushed fascist evil ...
  • Bigriver
    Bigriver April 16 2013 12: 42
    +6
    May 9th I consider the most important holiday of the country.
    Let it be in the blood of our children.
    Filmed in Khabarovsk, two years ago.
    1. Wedmak
      Wedmak April 16 2013 12: 56
      +4
      The kids were dashing around the tank, only the gun’s barrel was visible. Fortunately, the suspension will withstand. laughing
      1. taseka
        taseka April 16 2013 13: 37
        +4
        That's right! At one time, we "stuck around!"
        1. Chieftain
          Chieftain April 16 2013 13: 37
          -2
          [quote = taseka] That's right! In due time [quote]
          At one time you painted mammoths on the walls of caves.
  • awg75
    awg75 April 16 2013 12: 45
    +2
    as I recall how many times Taburetkin took the Victory Parade, so startled .... so to spoil such a great holiday .... and yet he walks and smiles
  • Tartary
    Tartary April 16 2013 12: 46
    +3
    Quote: DeepFreeze
    No * neither. I myself with deep reverence for real veterans, but not for mummers clowns with fake awards.

    Yes, so that our children, grandchildren, great-grandchildren and great-great-great-great-great-grandchildren remember their valiant ancestors, remember who gave them to live freely, and not behind the thorn of "Auschwitz", I myself would dress up as anyone, even if I could depict a mountain of naked corpses in bulldozer dumps, even though I cut out a star in public on my chest with a knife - I can't even write everything that I would allow to do with me for a good cause - what would they know and remember ...
    And who then really are clowns? These are precisely those who desecrate the graves of soldiers, who engage in vandalism at memorials, who light from the eternal flame, and so on and other nasty things ...
    Clowns are those who are "not remembering kinship" - miserable nedo.umki ... Truly - "edem das seine" ... - to tear your ass on the fascist flags.
    1. Deepree
      Deepree April 16 2013 12: 50
      -2
      Quote: Tartary
      that would know and remember ...

      And just enough to submit quality material. Books, movies, video games. And not Mikhalkov's ravings, but really high-quality and reliable films.
      1. Tartary
        Tartary April 16 2013 12: 57
        +1
        Quote: DeepFreeze
        And just enough to submit quality material. Books, movies, video games. And not Mikhalkov's ravings, but really high-quality and reliable films.

        And not for you personally, which director serves ????????
        Better reasoned and surname ... Pee-and-and-Izzzz ...
        1. Deepree
          Deepree April 16 2013 13: 03
          +2
          Of recent - Brest Fortress Cotta. Not without flaws, of course, but at least you can watch it without a basin for vomiting. There is a good and again very reliable Soviet-British serial film as long as the year 78 - an unknown war. No political propaganda, exclusively about the military operations of the Red Army, and later the Soviet army.
          1. Tartary
            Tartary April 16 2013 13: 16
            +1
            Quote: DeepFreeze
            Of recent - Brest Fortress Cotta. Not without flaws, of course, but at least you can watch it without a basin for vomiting. There is a good and again very reliable Soviet-British serial film as long as the year 78 - an unknown war. No political propaganda, exclusively about the military operations of the Red Army, and later the Soviet army.

            Stop stop, my dear ...
            You started about Mikhalkovskaya ravings, and oppose another genre of cinema from Roman Carmen? Is this such a clever move?
            Well, straight Disney crap, but according to "Hedgehog in the Fog" ... I'm not smiling modestly ...
            There, besides "Unknown War", there are also Soviet masterpieces - for example, "Liberation" by Yuri Ozerov ...
            All schools were brought to the DK clubs, cinemas of the entire immense USSR, to watch "Liberation" from YOU and the like, so you won't litter your brain with your opinions about the mass of talented Russian directors and only some quite worthy Western directors.
            1. Deepree
              Deepree April 16 2013 13: 19
              0
              Subject matter is one, and this is perhaps the main thing.
          2. kostyan77708
            kostyan77708 April 16 2013 13: 20
            0
            "The enemy at the gates" is a cool film, although it was filmed by amers about V. Zaitsev of our sniper
            1. Michael-89
              Michael-89 April 16 2013 13: 23
              -5
              Yashita, "the enemy at the gate" and the game Call of Duty 2 should be included in the school curriculum. Everything is shown there without embellishment.
              1. Tartary
                Tartary April 16 2013 13: 31
                +4
                Quote: Michael-89
                Yashita, "the enemy at the gate" and the game Call of Duty 2 should be included in the school curriculum. Everything is shown there without embellishment.

                Of course, of course, in the school curriculum of comprehensive schools in the USA and Europe!
                1. Michael-89
                  Michael-89 April 16 2013 13: 35
                  0
                  Russia of course.
                  1. Vanek
                    Vanek April 16 2013 13: 36
                    +1
                    Quote: Michael-89
                    of Russia


                    You teach your kids in such schools.
                    1. Michael-89
                      Michael-89 April 16 2013 13: 39
                      0
                      Well, how do you want to popularize WWII among young people?
                      1. Vanek
                        Vanek April 16 2013 13: 42
                        +1
                        Quote: Michael-89
                        Good,


                        Well, certainly not games.
                    2. Deepree
                      Deepree April 16 2013 14: 18
                      -2
                      You need to teach your kids in private schools with competent teachers. I (like many) studied at the municipal school and I know what they are taught there: nothing.
                      1. Tartary
                        Tartary April 16 2013 14: 52
                        +2
                        Quote: DeepFreeze
                        You need to teach your kids in private schools with competent teachers. I (like many) studied at the municipal school and I know what they are taught there: nothing.

                        I would write, but the moderators will not miss ...
                        There was already a topic here, where it was explained how trolls powder the brain with the spirit of an unstable child infant ...
                        Stop carrying a blizzard - here you are not there, there will be a solid 90 percent, and "inform" the potsiks on liberal resources ...
                        There you and those same, more likely to succeed ...
                      2. Deepree
                        Deepree April 16 2013 15: 01
                        0
                        Quote: Tartary
                        liberal resources

                        Liberalism and liberals in Russia are dead and this is very bad against the background of liberals.
                  2. evgenii67
                    evgenii67 April 16 2013 17: 45
                    +2
                    Quote: Vanek
                    You teach your kids in such schools.

                    Vanek, Mikhail-89 (89) - this is not a region, he himself is still a child with his "enemy at the gates" and the game Call of Duty 2
            2. Mikado
              Mikado April 16 2013 15: 57
              +1
              Without "embellishment" this is when our soldiers were transported to Stalingrad in locked wagons, where the detachments finished off their wounded and shot in the back? Well, yes, without "embellishment" in principle, only gonevo is complete, but yes, quite without "embellishment".
    2. Bigriver
      Bigriver April 16 2013 13: 03
      0
      Quote: DeepFreeze
      Quote: Tartary
      that would know and remember ...

      А all you need to do is to submit quality material. Books, movies, video games ...

      What a rationalism, however ...
      Just like a foreigner think.
      1. Michael-89
        Michael-89 April 16 2013 13: 13
        -5
        You just need to do it in a normal way, not in a soviet way. Need video games, movies, ads. You will not deny that the great game World of Tanks, which is immediately advertised and played by several million schoolchildren, did more to popularize the Second World War than a funny whistle dance on TV on May 9 and dances of marwann on all courses at school like "lessons of the Second World War"
        1. Bigriver
          Bigriver April 16 2013 13: 19
          +1
          Quote: Michael-89
          You will not deny that the great game of the World of Tanks, which is immediately advertised and into which several million schoolchildren made to popularize WWII more than a funny whistle on TV ...

          I can neither deny nor confirm your allegations.
          Because, in other words, I think.
          1. Michael-89
            Michael-89 April 16 2013 13: 24
            -2
            Well then explain for your thoughts on this matter.
            1. Bigriver
              Bigriver April 16 2013 13: 37
              +4
              Quote: Michael-89
              Well then explain for your thoughts on this matter.

              For what reason? About popularization?
              I consider this word harmful and not reflecting what needs to be done in society in relation to its history.
              Is it possible to popularize in society the love of your mother, children, homeland? Is it possible to popularize nobility, honor, fidelity?
              Here's what to do - this is too much conversation.
              Speaking narrowly, only about the parade. Yes I need it.
              As a nationwide, unifying action.
  • Michael-89
    Michael-89 April 16 2013 13: 02
    +1
    A parade is needed. The only thing that bothers me is the lack of normal modern armored vehicles on it.
    1. evgenii67
      evgenii67 April 16 2013 17: 51
      +2
      Quote: Michael-89
      A parade is needed. The only thing that bothers me is the lack of normal modern armored vehicles on it.

      briefly TROLL
      1. dmitreach
        dmitreach April 16 2013 22: 23
        0
        add: do not feed the troll!
        Glue the boiler demo, in the subject, again falls off ....
  • Majorloms
    Majorloms April 16 2013 13: 03
    +2
    I watched the video from the 4th post ... No words. It is growing, and what is most terrible - a terrible generation of people has grown up, maybe not bad, but absolutely stupid, brought up on contacts, video shit from the USA and hangouts in clubs. I am sure this teaching will bypass my children. In addition, if each of us brings up our child / children as it should, not forgetting to pay attention, in particular, to Russian history, then one of the laws of dialectics will work. How hard and for a long time I forced Bratelnik (17 years old) to watch the Great War series ... The result was not long in coming: for a year now it has been taking over the cartographic, topographic and historical preparations for going out to the places of battles. And he reads TSAMO maps, and even finds aerial photography somewhere. And as for the events in the last half of the year, I finished the teacher at the history lesson and, as they say, "dragged" the regional Olympiad :-)
  • Chieftain
    Chieftain April 16 2013 13: 09
    0
    Quote: Pilot200809
    And change the flag, NOT WENT

    Salom harassed?
  • Asgard
    Asgard April 16 2013 13: 10
    +8
    9 May - it is necessary to make the most important holiday of Russia.With this VICTORY, the story went a different way. This must be explained to People .....
    Parade, Salute, Festivities and Commemoration of Veterans(there are so few of them) Military equipment on the streets of the cities, let the boys (and girls) climb it, smear it with green paint and their eyes light up. Good that Nakhimov’s и Suvorovtsy will go through Red SquareEtc.
    Well, besides, it's my birthday)))
    1. Chieftain
      Chieftain April 16 2013 13: 11
      -4
      Quote: Asgard
      It is good that the Nakhimovtsy and Suvorovtsy will pass through Red Square ...

      Instead of training sessions. Ai maladtsa!
      1. Michael-89
        Michael-89 April 16 2013 13: 15
        -3
        Of course. Let them engage in shagistics, as in the USSR. The damned Stool brought them back to study - not to be like that!
        1. Chieftain
          Chieftain April 16 2013 13: 17
          -1
          Yes, finally, the stool did some nonsense from the army to beat the nilza with bricks on the head, to break some military police-shmolitsia there, and even the spirits of the Didids disrespect how any groups could do the bad things. The damned furniture maker ruined everything.
          1. Michael-89
            Michael-89 April 16 2013 13: 21
            -3
            Under Ustinov and Yazov there was no such x ...! Let's roll some vodka for whitewashing borders and beating cantiks!
            1. Chieftain
              Chieftain April 16 2013 13: 23
              -2
              Kanechna roll Cho is not a man adit.
  • klavyr
    klavyr April 16 2013 13: 12
    +2
    Everything is right! The people must see and know!
    1. dmitry46
      dmitry46 April 16 2013 13: 16
      +2
      REMEMBER should the people exploit our ancestors! And take an example from the generation of victorious fascism!
      1. Michael-89
        Michael-89 April 16 2013 13: 18
        0
        And what did you do to popularize the Second World War? Tell me.
  • taseka
    taseka April 16 2013 13: 39
    +5
    Parade of glory, victory and memory !!!
    1. Chieftain
      Chieftain April 16 2013 13: 41
      -7
      Rather, a victory parade scoops over people.
      1. aviamed90
        aviamed90 April 16 2013 13: 47
        +1
        And you dear Chieftain, apparently you think that only you are worthy to be called a HUMAN? And the rest are cattle? Unjustified misconception.
        1. Chieftain
          Chieftain April 16 2013 13: 50
          -2
          At least I look like a person, unlike.
          1. aviamed90
            aviamed90 April 16 2013 13: 52
            +1
            I doubt it.
          2. Andy
            Andy April 16 2013 14: 04
            +2
            Quote: Chieftain
            I at least look like a person

            yes, yes, they wrote about some in the biology textbook- HUMAN
      2. Andy
        Andy April 16 2013 14: 09
        0
        well, sympathize with the "people" who suffered from the scoops with a swastika. it will become of you. or come to us in sinimäe under the narva, there is such a regular meeting
        1. aviamed90
          aviamed90 April 16 2013 14: 40
          0
          Correctly the comment above was deleted.
    2. Gari
      Gari April 16 2013 18: 30
      0
      Quote: taseka
      Parade of glory, victory and memory !!!

      Marshal of Victory Beetles
    3. Gari
      Gari April 16 2013 18: 36
      +3
      Marshal of Victory!
  • aviamed90
    aviamed90 April 16 2013 13: 43
    +6
    Himself participated in 3 parades on Red Square. A lot of things can be said, but the main thing: we are going to parades not for those who are on the government platform of the mausoleum (sitting or standing), but for the people. The same multinational Soviet people. To remember their relatives who died in that war. For veterans, their children, grandchildren and great-grandchildren. In order to be aware of itself as a single PEOPLE, and not a dumb herd on which nothing depends.
    1. Andrey77
      Andrey77 April 16 2013 13: 54
      0
      I myself parade once, on the territory of the HF. We invited parents - that’s what we tried for them. Not for bosses and management.
  • Rrv
    Rrv April 16 2013 13: 57
    +4
    To the topic of the dispute that erupted several posts above: Victory Parade is a celebration and memory. The parade, which the first persons of the state are sitting on their asses, is a circus.

    As for the youngsters who do not know their own history, it makes no sense to be horrified, indignant, and to look for the guilty: this youngster is our children, and it is we, the society as a whole, and each citizen individually, who are responsible for this.
  • denis90
    denis90 April 16 2013 14: 01
    +2
    Quote: Chieftain
    Rather, a victory parade scoops over people.

    Do you think that almost the whole country is inhuman? Why don’t you like this holiday so much? Your fathers and grandfathers fought and died in the war. This parade is a tribute to memory, a symbol of victory over fascism, and not the victory of the Soviet system. At least show respect to their ancestors, because the war affected almost every family.
    1. Chieftain
      Chieftain April 16 2013 14: 05
      -1
      And why love the day of national mourning? And yes, my grandfather fought on the side of the ROA, which I am wildly proud of.
      1. Captain Vrungel
        Captain Vrungel April 16 2013 14: 23
        +2
        Well, where is the grandfather? Under what fence is he buried? Maybe thrown in general to be devoured by animals. The people fought for the Fatherland. Not for the system, for the Motherland. Power comes and goes. The homeland remains. We, too, crawled out of the caches and women’s yupoks "eroi", faithful assholes of Nazi Germany. It is a pity that they were not delivered until 1956. It was necessary to continue until the last bastard.
      2. lewerlin53rus
        lewerlin53rus April 16 2013 17: 32
        +1
        Isn't your grandfather here?
  • Clueless
    Clueless April 16 2013 14: 11
    +5
    Topvar is clearly becoming a popular resource, if the scum flows here - a country, parades are not needed, the army cripples everyone, etc.

    I don’t understand the current - the point is to keep such people on this resource? Immediately ban and all things, and then spread democracy. For if this goes on and on, this shkolota (Some by age and some by mental development) will go down
    1. 101
      101 April 16 2013 15: 04
      +5
      At a point Two times went smoking Nerves can not stand reading this bawdy
      1. Egoza
        Egoza April 16 2013 17: 57
        +6
        Quote: 101
        I went smoking twice Nerves can’t stand reading this nonsense

        Well, KEEP AND spit on every bastard! These trolls only hope to bring someone to a heart attack! DO NOT WAIT!
        Ivano-Frankivsk communists won the trial banning Soviet symbols in the city.
        The city council of Ivano-Frankivsk, staffed by nationalists from Svoboda, made such a decision on April 14 of 2011 of the year. Over the course of two years, the celebration of Victory Day broke down in the city, people were not allowed to orderly walk along the streets with copies of the Victory Banner, hunted the townspeople with the St. George ribbon, and attacked veterans.
        In May 2011 headman of the Russian community of Ivano-Frankivsk Alexander Volkov He appealed to the court, demanding the cancellation of the decision of the City Council. The judge studied the case for 16 months, violating all procedural rules and rejected the claim. With the support of the Communist Party, Mr. Volkov appealed to the Lviv Administrative Court of Appeal and on April 11 overturned the illegal decision of the court of first instance and the absurd decision of the city council of Ivano-Frankivsk banning Soviet symbols.
        Press Service of Ivano-Frankivsk OK KPU
        XXXX
        Well done A. Volkov! In the "den" itself, it continues to fight! The battle continues and we will win! This will be the best gift for Victory Day!
  • Chieftain
    Chieftain April 16 2013 14: 14
    0
    Quote: Bad
    spread democracy

    Like something bad.
  • aszzz888
    aszzz888 April 16 2013 14: 15
    +5
    The top photo is my uncle. He's on the right, in uniform. Nearby is the commander of the Artillery Corps of the Reserves of the High Command. On the back of the top photo there is an inscription "May 9, 1980. This is what remained of my gun after the battle near Belgorod. (The weapon is installed on the memorial 30 km from Belgorod). On the bottom photo is my uncle. with well-deserved awards.I will tear, like Tuzik a heating pad, the one who is rushing to the front-line soldiers.
  • denis90
    denis90 April 16 2013 14: 17
    +4
    Quote: Chieftain
    And yes, my grandfather fought on the side of the ROA, which I am wildly proud of.

    Then I'm sorry, but I confess my great-grandfather was killing people from ROA. I remember his stories, you know what he called them-traitors and HUMANS.
    1. lewerlin53rus
      lewerlin53rus April 16 2013 18: 31
      +3
      Quote: denis90
      Then I'm sorry, but I confess my great-grandfather was killing people from the ROA.

      You shouldn’t apologize in vain. This is just what you should be proud of.
  • Alexey M
    Alexey M April 16 2013 14: 23
    +1
    But for this purpose such sites are needed so that shkolota and other young people read, think, draw conclusions. And parades are needed for this in every city where there is a military unit. And about the education of their children who know nothing about the war, parents answer. The story had to be taught along with the children. wink
  • Vtel
    Vtel April 16 2013 14: 34
    +7
    Glory to the fallen heroes of the Holy War! Give the Victory Parade! Kazzlov to Geyropu!
  • lewerlin53rus
    lewerlin53rus April 16 2013 14: 50
    +2
    Quote: Vanek
    Will it be possible to kick?

    Why kick him? Only dirty shoes. To bury atxen !!! am
    1. Deepree
      Deepree April 16 2013 15: 07
      0
      This is a cruel treatment of animals. Monkeys all the same ..
    2. Vanek
      Vanek April 16 2013 15: 51
      +1
      For the sake of this, you can also get dirty.

      No one will go unpunished, everyone will be avenged.
  • Maximus
    Maximus April 16 2013 15: 50
    -2
    Who will tell me, again, huge red stars will inflict on technology, or is it, nevertheless, a modern symbol of the sun, a two-headed eagle?
    1. Michael-89
      Michael-89 April 16 2013 15: 58
      -1
      It would be nice to have an eagle, but for now everything is as before, as under the Communists.
  • ura91
    ura91 April 16 2013 16: 36
    0
    Someone will explain why the Suvorov and Nakhimov soldiers are needed at the parade when they studied in the cadet class, they only hated PCBs.
  • ura91
    ura91 April 16 2013 16: 36
    0
    Someone will explain why the Suvorov and Nakhimov soldiers are needed at the parade when they studied in the cadet class, they only hated PCBs.
    1. Egoza
      Egoza April 16 2013 18: 03
      +1
      Quote: ura91
      why do you need at the parade Suvorov and Nakhimov’s,

      In fact, many of the Suvorov and Nakhimovites at that time were also from the "fighters" - children of the regiment, young scouts, whom they could manage - they tried to send to the school. This is youth and memory for many. This is also a confirmation that the new change of soldiers is growing.

      Quote: ura91
      when I studied in a cadet class, only PCBs hated more than a drill.

      Everyone does not like drill. However, it is drill training that fosters a "feeling of elbows", the ability to quickly rebuild if necessary, and much more that is no longer learned on the parade ground.
  • Bort radist
    Bort radist April 16 2013 16: 51
    +1
    How much dishonesty, disguised and reborn, climbed out. Someone wrote that all this is our youth. In our country, living, but not ours in spirit. Fortunately, such a minority. Many wonderful guys and girls, they know the story well, they serve in the army. In sports, they destroy the enemy. So there should be parades.
  • Scoop_sucked
    Scoop_sucked April 16 2013 17: 01
    0
    Quote: Bronis
    Those people who gave us the opportunity to live - it’s a sin not to bow !!!

    To whom I want and worship. There should not be cults at all.
    1. lewerlin53rus
      lewerlin53rus April 16 2013 17: 24
      0
      And where did you get so smart with such a bawdy nickname?
  • Scoop_sucked
    Scoop_sucked April 16 2013 17: 41
    0
    Quote: lewerlin53rus
    And where did you get so smart with such a bawdy nickname?

    What do you dislike? My nickname is a statement of fact.
  • urchik
    urchik April 16 2013 21: 10
    +2
    Quote: Warchief
    This circus would have been banned. The same thing every year. Already tired. They made a cult out of the holiday.

    Click on the nickname and this degrading element with a filthy language defiling the HOLY will be ignored. The more people do this, the less such human shit will be on the site.
  • Egoza
    Egoza April 16 2013 22: 21
    +1
    We are also preparing ... in a peculiar way, of course, but it is necessary to cover the mouths of "some"!

    The Mariinsky Park talked about the activities of the UPA, showing terrible photos. An open-air photo exhibition provoked indignation among people in the form of the NKVD. (This is the squad in the form of the NKVD gathered here to arrange their presentation, but broke off)
    The rally and exhibition of the UPA atrocities took place on April 15 in Kiev. According to the correspondent of bigmir) net, about 150 people gathered around the Vatutin monument.
    People in the form of the NKVD joined the rally in the Mariinsky Park:

    An exhibition entitled “135 methods of torture officially recommended for use by soldiers of the Ukrainian rebel army” was organized by activists of the movement - Youth Unity, Faithful Cossacks and Oplot.
    On posters with photographs were depicted, as activists claim, victims of the OUN-UPA. As well as a list of torture used by the rebels against civilians.
    The photo exhibition was organized by the Oplot public organization:
    The role of the Soviet army and people in the fight against Hitler was emphasized.

    Protesters advocated the introduction of Memorial Day for the victims of the UPA.

    The organizers of the rally demanded the establishment of a Memorial Day for the victims of the UPA:
    Soon after the start of the rally, a group of people headed by People's Deputy Igor Miroshnichenko approached the Vatutin monument. Two of those who came in were in the form of the NKVD. There was a skirmish between the participants in the rallies and a fight almost started, but the police intervened in the conflict.
    In response, Yevgeny Zhilin suggested not attacking the participants of the peaceful rally, but entering the ring and there proving “who is cooler”. Nationalists refused the offer.
    http://news.bigmir.net/capital/696354-135-sposobov-pytok--V-Kieve-pokazali-zvers
    tva-UPA - FOTO - VIDEO-
  • dddym
    dddym April 16 2013 23: 01
    -1
    For a long time I do not remember such a fight on the forums - what happened to us? Gentlemen who are against the parade - is that an order? For what purpose? You understand - it will not work here - for the most part Russians write here, and if you are not too lazy and consider what sacrifices this victory was achieved, then you will understand that almost everyone will sign for Berlin in that war. Unless of course he will not be a traitor.
  • Alexan
    Alexan April 16 2013 23: 38
    0
    The fact that the Suvorovites will be returned to the Parade is wonderful! Would return the parade to the ranks. Somehow poor "figure" looked last year. Will there be many real veterans in the stands? Very few survived. More and more often it happens with fake awards. The operator shows - he doesn't know.