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Rogozin demanded to get away from the "muddy schemes"

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Rogozin demanded to get away from the "muddy schemes"“Everything should be subordinated to the direct will of the state. The state should have the ability to directly control the shares in these joint-stock companies. (You need to have) more than 50% (shares) directly to control the issue of appointment of boards of directors, to influence their decisions,” Deputy Prime Minister at a meeting in Astrakhan dedicated to the problems of shipbuilding.


Rogozin added that he gives the head of the USC, Andrei Dyachkov, all the necessary powers to carry out this task. "Who will disturb you - dismiss. Or tell me, I will help to do it," he said.

The Vice Prime Minister also criticized USC for disrupting the construction schedule of the Zvezda factory complex in Primorsky Krai. According to Rogozin, the government in the help provided provided incorrect information, hiding the fact of non-performance of work on time.

"In this certificate, at least there is something that would indicate the existence of the problem of the backlog of work on 1, 2, 3, 4 to create new potential for shipbuilding in the Far East? Anything? And that for ten months of failure - is it written here or not? " - Rogozin asked a rhetorical question and asked Dyachkova to “tear his head off” to those who send such information.

Recall, the other day, the Deputy Prime Minister launched a large-scale initiative to save human civilization from threats from space. According to media reports, Rogozin proposed to make the problem of protection against asteroids the main topic of the G20 summit. According to him, this "will require a concentration of global intellectual resources and scientific and technical potentials of Russia, the USA and other countries of the world."
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  1. Civil
    Civil April 15 2013 13: 15
    21
    Dmitry, what do you want for 10 months to do what they have, tore down and plundered for 20 years ?!
    The funny thing is that they were instructed to create the same people))))

    So we won’t sell the elephant ... (c)
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov April 15 2013 13: 30
      +6
      Quote: Civil
      Dmitry, what do you want for 10 months to do what they have, tore down and plundered for 20 years ?!

      Dimon is a journalist and his profession wagging his tongue. He as one chatter came from him, but when things will not be known, and whether they will be at all.
      1. w.ebdo.g
        w.ebdo.g April 15 2013 14: 04
        +5
        In the USA, food cultivation is a criminal offense

        Human rights in America are respected ...)))))

      2. Murat 09
        Murat 09 April 15 2013 16: 08
        -1
        Alexander agrees, Dimon balabol and a man who loves PR, but I have never seen normal affairs with him. He’s like a weather vane, then he’s talking about something, then, people said, at one time he ran to Tolik Ginger for the dough, like give grandmas and I, your liberal, wanted to shut up.
      3. stalkerwalker
        stalkerwalker April 15 2013 20: 39
        +4
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Dimon journalist and his profession wagging his tongue

        Dimon Dimonu strife ...
        Vaughn, already skated to Astrakhan with Onishchenko. And they "sentenced" non-indigenous Tajiks to cut off from direct railway communication with Russia - this is the first step.
        And Karimov "got used" in the capital for a personal meeting with VVP. Allegedly to grind about Afghanistan ...
        And as far as I understand, the Amrykans are taking back their promises, given earlier to the Central Asian "partners", and taking possible loans "back".
        And here Maduro legitimately came to power.
    2. w.ebdo.g
      w.ebdo.g April 15 2013 14: 00
      +4
      "good news"...

      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov April 15 2013 14: 11
        +1
        Quote: w.ebdo.g
        good news...

        Hello, Sergey! I watched the video. But I did not see the good news request
        1. w.ebdo.g
          w.ebdo.g April 15 2013 14: 26
          +1
          Great, Sanya!
          I meant good news. forgot to put quotes ...
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov April 15 2013 14: 51
            0
            Quote: w.ebdo.g
            . forgot to put quotes

            Yes, no question, we’ll remake now drinks
          2. Geisenberg
            Geisenberg April 15 2013 15: 53
            +2
            Quote: w.ebdo.g
            Great, Sanya!
            I meant good news. forgot to put quotes ...


            C'mon, normal news. The main thing here is that in Ukraine people capable of creating such material have not yet been translated.
    3. Stiletto
      Stiletto April 15 2013 14: 37
      +2
      Dmitry Olegovich! You first determine Serdyukov, where it should be, and only then demand. And then one thing in words, but in fact ... No matter, in short.
      1. w.ebdo.g
        w.ebdo.g April 15 2013 15: 05
        +3
        how Russia financially helps America ...

        1. Grishka100watt
          Grishka100watt April 15 2013 18: 43
          -1
          how Russia financially helps America ...

          Landing landing and again landing.
      2. Tambov we ...
        Tambov we ... April 15 2013 16: 51
        +1
        Rogozin does not have the power to determine Serdyukov’s status with the company.
        1. Nick
          Nick April 15 2013 20: 53
          0
          Quote: We are from Tambov ...
          Rogozin does not have the power to determine Serdyukov’s status with the company.
          good
          Adequate know, demagogues don’t know, or pretend ...
    4. ShturmKGB
      ShturmKGB April 15 2013 15: 21
      13
      Против intercontinental cancert asteroids you need to deploy the Russian system in Cuba, Venezuela, Kamchatka, as well as on ships plying along the US coast ...
      1. Geisenberg
        Geisenberg April 15 2013 15: 54
        +3
        ShturmKGB
        Против intercontinental cancert asteroids you need to deploy the Russian system in Cuba, Venezuela, Kamchatka, as well as on ships plying along the US coast ...


        It's a pity that only one plus sign is set for the passage. In Cuba, to build a sanatorium for our nuclear forces of deterrence, so that we could then rest on the job.
      2. sibircat
        sibircat April 15 2013 17: 14
        -1
        In the coming years, Russia may return military bases in Cuba and Vietnam. In addition, negotiations are underway on the deployment of Russian forces in the Seychelles, said the Commander-in-Chief of the Russian Navy, Vice Admiral Viktor Chirkov.

        source: http: //www.gazeta.ru/politics/2012/07/27_a_4695373.shtml
        A year has passed, but something is not visible in our bases.
        Say, don’t roll bags!
  2. alexng
    alexng April 15 2013 13: 23
    +5
    ... "Tear off your head" to those who send such information.


    And not just the head. All tear off and the most important thing to tear from the life of the covetous.
    1. Kolya
      Kolya April 16 2013 08: 51
      0
      It is necessary for those to demand and to force, who does not agree to work openly - to jail, to master manual work.
  3. Manager
    Manager April 15 2013 13: 28
    +6
    Rogozin as usual. A couple of correct statements to the public and back to the mud until next time.
    I have nothing against him, but in fact it is as I wrote above.
    1. Tambov we ...
      Tambov we ... April 15 2013 16: 02
      0
      You are not quite right. The statements are correct, and the swamp where these statements are directed is very trashy. Therefore, there is some reasonable caution.
      1. Manager
        Manager April 15 2013 16: 52
        +1
        Quote: We are from Tambov ...
        You are not quite right. The statements are correct, and the swamp where these statements are directed is very trashy. Therefore, there is some reasonable caution.


        I am absolutely right. And I will explain why.
        Rogozin is a person who has the ability and desire to make beautiful statements. And he really wants to change everything for the better. Only at the same time he does not have the ability to implement something. Not opportunities, not powers. Therefore, in order not to fall in the eyes of the public, from time to time he makes beautiful, loud statements. But things have never gone beyond words. From that and the attitude towards him as a good uncle who has no opportunities. It seems to be pleasant to listen to and at the same time is no longer taken seriously. So to say good Zhirinovsky.
        1. sibircat
          sibircat April 15 2013 17: 24
          0
          So to say good Zhirinovsky.

          I ask you not to insult everyone with their beloved political chameleon.
  4. BARKAS
    BARKAS April 15 2013 13: 29
    +5
    Rogozin demanded to get away from the "muddy schemes"

    It's time for Rogozin and other officials to get rid of pseudo-political correctness and call things by their proper names and not replace the word "thieves" with "muddy" so it will be more honest.
    1. Alex Nick
      Alex Nick April 15 2013 22: 29
      +1
      Probably you wanted to say the opposite - "thieves" to "muddy". Muddy for thieves!
  5. Vtel
    Vtel April 15 2013 13: 31
    +1
    But on which drum do we need this protection from asteroids? Once again, our money will flow there - for an ephemeral project, it’s better to put it into concrete development of weapons and from everything flying too. The Yankees will say, let’s, but they don’t invest a single ruble there, take them Chubais. The Lord will protect us, as it was in Chelyabinsk - no one died, then there was a warning from above. Now let the Yankees be the first and give all the best.
    1. Manager
      Manager April 15 2013 13: 32
      0
      Quote: Vtel
      But on which drum do we need this protection from asteroids? Once again, our money will flow there - for an ephemeral project, it’s better to put it into concrete development of weapons and from everything flying too. The Yankees will say, let’s, but they don’t invest a single ruble there, take them Chubais. The Lord will protect us, as it was in Chelyabinsk - no one died, then there was a warning from above. Now let the Yankees be the first and give all the best.


      Hope for God, but do not make it yourself.
      1. karbofos
        karbofos April 15 2013 16: 44
        +1
        ShturmKGB is right. put rockets under the guise of Cuba, such as PAO (Anti-Asteroid Defense) from S-500 complexes. Even in Venezuela would be useful. But then you never know what. and Bruce Willis is not the same ...
      2. AK-47
        AK-47 April 15 2013 21: 06
        +3
        Quote: Manager
        Hope for God, but do not make it yourself.
    2. Vadivak
      Vadivak April 15 2013 13: 43
      +1
      Quote: Vtel
      But on which drum do we need this protection from asteroids?


      Like this? And then the American movie will be filmed?
    3. Ezhaak
      Ezhaak April 15 2013 13: 59
      -1
      Quote: Vtel
      But on which drum do we need this protection from asteroids?

      Well, this is the same as global warming, the fight against terrorism. The usual, meaningless expenditure of money. A battle with asteroids is like a battle with a shadow. I fully support you. and plus.
    4. Tambov we ...
      Tambov we ... April 15 2013 16: 05
      0
      And if, really - yobnet ?! There will be poorer hypothetical nuclear strikes, God forbid ...
    5. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich April 15 2013 16: 08
      +1
      a dream ... not a picture ... good
  6. sascha2276
    sascha2276 April 15 2013 13: 51
    14 th
    A friend shared a site sekretbase.8ru (delete the number) which put the entire Internet on his ears, he was disguised as a simple search for people, so as not to cover. There, in general, information about all residents of the CIS countries, but there is even a special section about the government, there are all their income, relatives, what they own, who the roof is and to whom they pay ... And about ordinary people, what extraneous income does, even photos and messages from social There are networks, it’s good that you can remove yourself from there, otherwise there is absolutely no privacy in this country !!! Come there, there’s a cool forum to discuss something, you won’t want it. I’ve registered on this site for a long time, and now I know everything about everyone, even teasing friends)
    1. max-02215
      max-02215 April 15 2013 15: 20
      +4
      In general, these must be banned, everywhere they cram this crap
  7. Alex66
    Alex66 April 15 2013 13: 52
    +2
    "Recall that the other day the Deputy Prime Minister came out with a large-scale initiative to save human civilization from threats from outer space."
    It may start to punish embezzlers with a simple one, to do rearmament, but space will wait, and not all asteroids can be knocked down.
    1. engineer74
      engineer74 April 15 2013 14: 58
      0
      I support! An asteroid may or may not fly. The embezzlers are ALREADY HERE and the consequences of their activities are worse than many asteroids!
  8. JonnyT
    JonnyT April 15 2013 13: 52
    +3
    Ha ...... this bolabol was crazy again!
    He is just an actor whose role is to create a favorable image for our authorities and fool the population that an unreasonable struggle is being waged, and so on!
  9. VadimSt
    VadimSt April 15 2013 13: 53
    +2
    Rogozin, it's time to "get stale"! The bureaucratic machine cannot be overthrown by conversations and convictions.
    I would like to hear from him more often not only about the prospects of the military-industrial complex, but also about specific personnel decisions.
  10. ioann1
    ioann1 April 15 2013 13: 58
    +1
    Dmitry Olegovich! It needs to be tougher, time is ...
  11. vladsolo56
    vladsolo56 April 15 2013 14: 03
    +2
    It will sound trite, and it may even wrinkle someone, but under Stalin the deadlines were met, this is the difference between the market and the plan.
    1. sibircat
      sibircat April 15 2013 17: 29
      +1
      Quote: vladsolo56
      It will sound trite, and it may even wrinkle someone, but under Stalin the deadlines were met, this is the difference between the market and the plan.

      The objectives were different:
      then protect the country;
      Now, cut the dough.
  12. Gorchakov
    Gorchakov April 15 2013 14: 16
    0
    In order for something to change, Rogozin must be either vice president or prime minister ... The status of deputy prime minister does not give him the right to realize what he thinks, because the matter is hindered by the prime minister and his team ...
    1. Tambov we ...
      Tambov we ... April 15 2013 16: 06
      -4
      And better - the president!
    2. Karabin
      Karabin April 15 2013 19: 55
      +1
      Quote: Gorchakov
      the case is inhibited by the prime minister and his team ..

      Does iPhone have a team? And how did the Wise Scout view it?
  13. Krapovy32
    Krapovy32 April 15 2013 14: 24
    -1
    And I would replace Medvedev with Rogozin as prime minister. And as soon as possible. This one is much better than the "plush grabber".
    1. Tambov we ...
      Tambov we ... April 15 2013 15: 55
      -2
      I very much agree with you.
    2. sibircat
      sibircat April 15 2013 17: 33
      -1
      Quote: Speckled32
      And I would replace Medvedev as Prime Minister Rogozin.

      Primakov, in my opinion, would ideally fit the role of prime minister.
      Yes, age is no longer the same, and Dorenko, who remembers how much in vain has beaten an honest man from head to toe.
  14. Warchief
    Warchief April 15 2013 15: 07
    -4
    Rogozin is still that scoop. Remove him from his post and send him away.
    1. Tambov we ...
      Tambov we ... April 15 2013 15: 54
      +1
      Scoop, in the understanding of our geopolitical opponents, is a very significant quality for sovereign people. It means that they, the goats, are preventing them from committing obscenities against Russia.
  15. svp67
    svp67 April 15 2013 15: 07
    -1
    Quote: Speckled32
    And I would replace Medvedev with Rogozin as prime minister. And as soon as possible. This one is much better than the "plush grabber".


    Rogozin says it is really more specific and in words more patriotic, but the words must be supported by deeds. And his task now is very important - to provide the aircraft with excellent, modern weapons, at reasonable prices and in sufficient quantities ...
  16. Tambov we ...
    Tambov we ... April 15 2013 15: 50
    -4
    Rogozin is likely to be the president of Russia. And so it would be good.
    1. Tambov we ...
      Tambov we ... April 15 2013 16: 26
      -3
      Only enemies can set minuses against the desire to see a person making Russia stronger as president ...
      1. Mugs
        Mugs April 15 2013 16: 33
        -2
        I am sure that no one here is opposed to seeing as the president of a man making Russia stronger ...
        1. Tambov we ...
          Tambov we ... April 15 2013 16: 45
          -2
          However, assuming the possibility of Rogozin's growth to the post of first person in the state, you can get a bayonet under the ribs ...
    2. Mugs
      Mugs April 15 2013 16: 28
      -1
      God forbid.
      1. Tambov we ...
        Tambov we ... April 15 2013 16: 32
        +1
        Why? If it is not a secret.
        1. Mugs
          Mugs April 15 2013 16: 42
          +1
          And what did Rogozin do for Russia?
          For fun, type in Yandex the request "Rogozin made" and you will see: "made a bet", "made a warning", "made a clarification", "called to make". Draw your own conclusions.
          1. Tambov we ...
            Tambov we ... April 15 2013 16: 59
            -2
            He began to tune the military-industrial complex to its natural purpose - to strengthen the power of Russia.
    3. zart_arn
      zart_arn April 15 2013 18: 06
      0
      Tell the customer that the candidacy is not pulling. Categorically. laughing
  17. UFO
    UFO April 15 2013 16: 05
    0
    Yes, damn it, they will leave, from "muddy schemes" to "muddy waters", from one offshore company to others .... The executioner on the stage !!! yes
  18. itr
    itr April 15 2013 16: 16
    0
    Osk this is a muddy scheme
    The engine of trade supply and demand
    There is demand, but the offer is the same from Osk
    I think soon the Germans will turn to build ships
    I think the price and quality will not fail
  19. ksenofont7
    ksenofont7 April 15 2013 16: 19
    -1
    Quote: UFO
    Yes, damn it, they will leave, from "muddy schemes" to "muddy waters", from one offshore company to others .... The executioner on the stage !!! yes

    The right words. I support. The executioner on stage am
  20. lecturer
    lecturer April 15 2013 17: 23
    -1
    Vtel
    But on which drum do we need this protection from asteroids? Again, our money will flow there - on an ephemeral project, it’s better to put it into concrete development of weapons and from everything flying too

    Of course, caution is always needed - especially in the defense industry! BUT, having made such a powerful weapon in space, IT can destroy NOT ONLY meteorites, BUT and maybe - WHERE or WHO is it aiming at?
  21. orff
    orff April 15 2013 18: 27
    +1
    To shoot down asteroids, you need to learn how to shoot down satellites. Plus correction for the speeds with which the satellite and the asteroid fly.
    1. AK-47
      AK-47 April 15 2013 20: 50
      -1
      Quote: orff
      To shoot down asteroids, you need to learn how to shoot down satellites.

      One does not interfere with the other, but it is necessary to start.
    2. stalkerwalker
      stalkerwalker April 15 2013 21: 04
      +3
      Quote: orff
      To shoot down asteroids, you need to learn how to shoot down satellites

      All true.
      Speeds and masses of rockets and meteorites are not comparable.
      Plus radars, "looking along" the earth's surface, and not up.
      There is something to think about ...
      1. stalkerwalker
        stalkerwalker April 15 2013 22: 56
        +4
        I would like to know - "minus" the employee of Roscosmos?
        Or another "smart guy" -anonym?
        laughing
  22. APASUS
    APASUS April 15 2013 19: 00
    +2
    It’s generally not clear how structures related to the execution of state orders can be registered in offshore. Or, for example, the Ministry of Education stores its money in Cyprus. It’s time to introduce the rule a long time ago:
    Enterprises related to the fulfillment of the state order in the Moscow Region, medicine, and education cannot be registered except in Russia! All money received by the resident for the execution of the state order are transferred only to accounts in Russia
  23. Karabin
    Karabin April 15 2013 20: 28
    +1
    Rogozin demanded to leave the "muddy schemes".

    Everyone was terribly scared.

    "Who will bother you - fire. Or tell me, I will help to do it",

    Surov philologist. Already horror. And how many villains fired with an iron hand - not count.

    The other day, the Deputy Prime Minister launched a large-scale initiative to save human civilization from threats from outer space.

    Well done, Olegych! bother saving the domestic defense industry, boredom, routine, thieving charges. A bit too small for Rogozin. Its scale, at least to save the WORLD. Give me the Death Star.

    PS bl ***, when, all this pop music will fall off from power.
  24. mosgeo1
    mosgeo1 April 15 2013 20: 31
    -1
    The main influence on the vital activity of our brains should be an understanding of Darwin's theory that their temperature should be 36.6 degrees. In any geographical latitude. To ensure this, it is not created by individual individuals, but by the entire rational humanity of the body under the code name of the UN, the task of which is this!
  25. Lecha57
    Lecha57 April 15 2013 21: 29
    0
    Rogozin needs to leave, or work in the right direction.
  26. Lecha57
    Lecha57 April 15 2013 21: 39
    0
    They don't need a country, they need shares! EMPTY PAPER! - A guarantee for a comfortable existence. - "KERDYK SOON YOU WILL BE!"
  27. patriot2
    patriot2 April 15 2013 21: 41
    0
    The fight against the asteroid hazard implies that it will be dealt with by a united humanity. And before that, it's very far away, as long as in the fable "Swan, Cancer and Pike". And there is no end to these disagreements, or maybe it is beneficial to some, why - extra mouths? And this continues for many years, decades, centuries ... The question is - who are these creatures?
  28. Lecha57
    Lecha57 April 15 2013 21: 45
    -1
    ANY QUESTIONS? - NO QUESTIONS!
  29. S_mirnov
    S_mirnov April 15 2013 23: 05
    +2
    "Rogozin demanded to get away from" muddy schemes "" - only by personal example Dmitry Olegovich! Only after you!
    "Recall that the other day the Deputy Prime Minister came out with a large-scale initiative to save human civilization from threats from outer space. According to media reports, Rogozin proposed to make the main topic of the G20 summit the problem of protection from asteroids." - this is a clinical case! As a support for Rogozin's line, I propose to stop the bottom of the Bermuda triangle and expel demons and aliens from there! fool
  30. PACIFIST
    PACIFIST April 16 2013 00: 39
    +2
    Well, to be honest, at first I sympathized with Rogozin, I thought that a normal man would come to power and the military-industrial complex will start to raise people. Well, like many people on the site, I see that only
    It can only seem to me
  31. doctor3006
    doctor3006 April 16 2013 06: 59
    0
    Chatterbox. However, like everything in our elite.
  32. doctor3006
    doctor3006 April 16 2013 07: 00
    +2
    Chatterbox. However, like the whole elite in our country.
  33. pinecone
    pinecone April 16 2013 07: 07
    +1
    Complete nationalization of defense industry enterprises. There is no other way.