Watches and watch industry of the USSR

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Watches and watch industry of the USSR

The clock is one of the oldest and most important instruments created by mankind – it is difficult to overestimate its importance on the course of civilization.

At first solar, sand, water, then pendulum floor and table, later pocket and hand - mechanical, quartz, electronic, and finally ultra-precise atomic and ionic, although on them story It doesn’t end there – scientists are developing even more precise versions of clocks, which are necessary for conducting scientific research and creating promising technologies.



But let's not delve into the "darkness of the ages" or the future - pocket and then wristwatches became widespread in the late 19th - early 20th centuries, when they became relatively accessible to the general population in industrially developed countries, and until the beginning of the 21st century, having a watch was an objective necessity - everything changed only after cell phones and then smartphones became widespread.


Cesium atomic clock

After that, many stopped wearing watches altogether, and a little later, many began to use fitness bracelets and smart watches, which are like watches, but in fact are more like wrist multifunctional computers with a bunch of sensors.

So what – are classic watches, especially mechanical ones, going to disappear soon?

In fact, the market for classic watches, primarily mechanical watches, feels quite confident. It's just that mechanical watches have essentially moved from a necessity to a luxury item, a status symbol, and in some sense have turned into a jewelry accessory - it's not for nothing that expensive watches are now often sold in pawnshops, even if they don't contain any precious metals.

By the way, in the last century, mechanical watches were already predicted to be forgotten, when quartz watches first appeared, providing unprecedented accuracy compared to "mechanics". However, it soon became clear that people liked mechanical watches - the sound of the mechanism, the smooth movement of the hands, so in the end "mechanics" pushed quartz mechanisms into the lower segment of the watch market.

In addition, in a sense, wristwatches have become one of the status symbols of the state - people look at what watches are worn by those in power, what watches are used in various branches of the armed forces - domestically produced or foreign? In a sense, the domestic watch industry plays the same symbolic role as the president's airplane and limousine.


On February 21, 2022, that is, the day when Russian President Vladimir Putin made a televised announcement and recognized the independence of the Lugansk and Donetsk People's Republics, he was wearing a watch from the Imperial Peterhof Factory (IPF)

What is the history and current state of the watch industry in our country?

In this material we will talk about the period of Tsarist Russia and the USSR.

Watch industry of Tsarist Russia


The first attempts to establish domestic watch production were undertaken under Catherine II - in 1774, the first watch manufactory in Russia was founded, and in 1784, the Swede Peter Nordstein, with the assistance of Grigory Potemkin, opened a manufactory that produced pocket watches, but, ultimately, the watch factories opened in St. Petersburg and Moscow closed after a few years.


Wooden watches from the Bronnikov dynasty are, of course, original, but hardly practical, more of a curiosity...

In fact, there is no point in further examining the watch industry of Tsarist Russia due to its actual absence - that is why the table of contents of this article only talks about the watch industry of the USSR.

Some will say that this is not so, because there were famous watchmakers – Pavel Bure, Heinrich Moser, but all of these were just small manufactories founded by foreigners, and they mainly imported parts and mechanisms from Swiss and German manufacturers, and then developed their own case to complete the watch, so the Russian watch industry before the revolution of 1917 was completely dependent on foreign supplies.


The only mass-produced industrial clocks that could truly be rightfully called Russian were inexpensive wall clocks, which were manufactured in quantities of about 100 thousand pieces per year at handicraft enterprises with primitive technological equipment at the beginning of the XNUMXth century. The largest factories were the factories of P. Dmitriev and D. Reinin in Moscow, as well as the factories of G. Afanasyev and V. Platov in the village of Sharapovo in the Zvenigorod district in the Moscow region.

Watches and watch industry of the USSR


Unlike Tsarist Russia, the USSR quickly understood the importance of watches – at that time there was nowhere else to get the exact time, so watches were not a luxury, but an extreme necessity, and in the 30s serious efforts were made to create their own watch industry.

For example, in 1930, the Soviet Union acquired two American watch companies – Dueber-Hampden Watch and Ansonia Clock. Characteristically, the US sold them despite sanctions (yes, they were imposed on us even then), as they considered these factories, as well as their technologies and equipment, to be extremely outdated. As a result, the "First State Watch Factory" was created, also known as the "First Moscow Watch Factory", which later produced watches under the "Polet" brand. Then, taking into account the experience gained, the "Second Moscow Watch Factory" was created, which would produce watches under the "Slava" brand.


At the same time, in 1930, the stone-cutting factory in Peterhof was renamed the “First State Plant of Precision Technical Stones” (“TTK-1”), which would turn into the “Petrodvorets Watch Factory”, producing watches under the brand name “Rocket", and in 1940, with the help of specialists from Peterhof, a second plant for the production of precision technical stones, "TTK-2" or "Uglich Watch Factory", was launched in Uglich.

In the late 1930s, together with the French company Lip SA d'Horlogerie, the production of world-class watch mechanisms was established, which were used in the first releases of the Pobeda watches.


The Pobeda watch based on the French R36 caliber was produced at the Penza Watch Factory, the First Moscow Watch Factory, the Chistopol Watch Factory, the Maslennikov Factory and the Second Moscow Watch Factory – judging by the number of manufacturers, one can easily imagine how much the Soviet state needed watches at that time.

After the start of the war and the evacuation, the Chelyabinsk Watch Factory and the Chistopol Watch Factory were created, producing the Volna and Vostok watches based on a precision caliber developed on the basis of the then newest high-precision chronometer Zenith 135.


The Vostok watch from the Chistopol Watch Factory, whose calibers are based on the Swiss caliber Zenith 135

Electronic watches under the brand name "Elektronika" were produced by the Minsk Scientific and Production Association "Integral".


Soviet electronic watches

By the beginning of the 1980s, more than 20 watch factories of various types operated in the USSR. These enterprises collectively produced about 20 million different watches annually, a significant portion of which were sold abroad. And the range of watches produced in the USSR was simply enormous!

Given the limited number of luxury items available in the USSR, as well as the existing shortage of civilian products, watches were not only a utilitarian tool, but also a status symbol. This position was supported by the release of limited edition departmental watches, which were produced in limited quantities and were not available for free sale. Certain categories of citizens were attracted to watches made in cases made of precious metals - one of the few legalized indicators of wealth and luxury in the USSR.


The disadvantages of Soviet watches include the same things that can be attributed to all civilian products of the USSR: the lack of a competitive market, shortages, government orders and other attributes of a planned economy led to the fact that technically and qualitatively, USSR watches began to lag significantly behind what was produced in Western countries.

For example, the accuracy of most Soviet watches remained at the level of -20/+40 seconds per day, while in the West many watches were produced according to the COSC standard (Contrôle Officiel Suisse des Chronomètres – the standard of the official Swiss chronometry institute), and even watches that did not fall under this standard were often more accurate than Soviet ones (according to the COSC standard, the deviation in the accuracy of mechanical watches should not exceed -4/+6 seconds per day, and for quartz watches – no more than 0,07 seconds per day).

Although there were exceptions, for example, the Vostok Precision watch, whose caliber was created on the basis of the Swiss caliber Zenith 135, had an accuracy of +/- 10 seconds per day.


Another problem was the quality of manufacturing - this concerned not only watches, but also, for example, hunting rifles, cars and much more. Often, high-quality items without defects and flaws could be purchased either "through connections" or by chance, and closer to the end of the Soviet Union, the quality of civilian products went downhill.

Of course, in the late USSR, when perestroika was already looming on the horizon, foreign watches were a desirable and inaccessible luxury item for the majority of the country's population, so the events that followed the collapse of the USSR were quite predictable, although we will talk about this in the next article.
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  1. +1
    20 July 2025 03: 59
    As soon as I bought my first phone (still a push-button one), the need for a watch immediately disappeared. wink
    1. + 25
      20 July 2025 04: 08
      Quote: Dutchman Michel
      As soon as I bought my first phone (still a push-button one), the need for a watch immediately disappeared. wink

      And I love wristwatches, and I still use wristwatches. By the way, Soviet ones!
      1. +5
        20 July 2025 04: 11
        Quote: your vsr 66-67
        And I love wristwatches, and I still use wristwatches.
        Frankly, I never liked wearing any trinkets on my body, like watches, rings, chains, etc. Well, this is, of course, an individual matter. wink
        1. +4
          20 July 2025 04: 53
          Quote: Dutchman Michel
          Frankly, I never liked wearing any trinkets on my body, like watches, rings, chains, etc.

          Wedding ring?
          1. +9
            20 July 2025 07: 07
            Quote from: AllX_VahhaB
            Wedding ring?
            My wife was very unhappy at first, but then she got used to it. wink
          2. +8
            20 July 2025 07: 33
            When I got married, I was still working at the Kirov Plant, and wearing any rings there was dangerous. I saw how a man's ring got flattened on his finger - I had to cut it off a swollen eggplant... Horrible. Since then, I haven't worn one for 40 years. Until they gave me a talisman.
            1. +5
              20 July 2025 09: 04
              Quote: paul3390
              wearing any rings there was fraught with danger
              Flight personnel were also forbidden to wear them, but they still wore them on the sly. wink
              1. +6
                20 July 2025 15: 12
                but they still wore them on the sly

                Well, only on family holidays. But on a daily basis, my father, a military transport aviation pilot, wore a wedding ring on a string.
                1. +2
                  22 July 2025 10: 53
                  The ring cannot be "put on".
              2. +2
                21 July 2025 01: 58
                Quote: Dutchman Michel
                Quote: paul3390
                wearing any rings there was fraught with danger
                Flight personnel were also forbidden to wear them, but they still wore them on the sly. wink

                To prevent incidents, the flight crew was given kid gloves! Although I didn't like flying in them. And I still don't like gloves.
            2. +1
              21 July 2025 09: 11
              safety precautions must be observed
            3. +3
              21 July 2025 13: 53
              When I got married, I was still working at the Kirov plant, and wearing any rings there was dangerous. I saw how a man's ring got flattened on his finger - I had to cut it off a swollen eggplant... Horrible.
              As a child, I saw a driver tear off his finger when he caught the ring on the side of the truck body while jumping off a semi-trailer...
          3. + 12
            20 July 2025 07: 52
            Quote from: AllX_VahhaB
            Wedding ring?

            We had a lieutenant Galeev in our battalion - a lover of wedding rings. Well, during the exercises he somehow managed to get caught on a hatch... Finger - off...
            Since then I have given up this bad habit...
            But there was an order prohibiting wearing wedding rings... crying
            1. +6
              20 July 2025 08: 53
              Quote: ROSS 42
              Finger away...
              Since then I have given up this bad habit...
              But there was an order prohibiting wearing wedding rings

              We had the same thing...

              Therefore, I wore the ring only for 2 weeks of my holy trip to Sochi, and upon returning to serve in the UNRM, I took it off and have not worn it for over 40 years...
              1. +7
                20 July 2025 10: 19
                Quote: Olgovich
                We had the same thing...

                So it was like this everywhere:
                It was forbidden to wear wedding rings, any rings and signet rings in general. Not related to the cult - related to the issue of injury risk.

                https://dzen.ru/a/Y9LOOljsyW4R9A-E
                First, military service...I didn't want to get injured.
                Then, about a quarter of a century of work on the installation of electrical installations and overhead power lines... Also not a piece of cake... But outside of work I wore them... Then my fingers became thicker and for about fifteen years both the ring and the signet rings lay idle...
                I'm tired of this posturing, which brings absolutely nothing but inconvenience.
              2. +3
                20 July 2025 22: 17
                Not only pilots and drivers did not wear rings. Across the river I saw more than once how "married men" of the MMG would cover their wedding rings with a bandage before raids, and then "wash" their hands in the ground - so that it would not shine through. I myself never carried out such a procedure because of my single status at that time.
                1. +2
                  21 July 2025 12: 10
                  Quote: Richard
                  It wasn't just pilots and drivers who didn't wear rings.

                  hi they didn't wear it everywhere, because almost everyone jumped from the side of the car, where the finger could remain forever
          4. +7
            20 July 2025 11: 22
            Quote from: AllX_VahhaB
            Quote: Dutchman Michel
            Frankly, I never liked wearing any trinkets on my body, like watches, rings, chains, etc.

            Wedding ring?

            What he didn't like were rings and signet rings! He never wore them. Over time, my wife got used to it. And about 20 years after the wedding, when my younger son was already studying at a university, he somehow asked for my ring as a signet ring. We gave him my wedding ring, one of my wife's earrings (she lost the other one), her chain too (it got tangled, they couldn't untangle it) and, believe it or not, a nugget extracted from the crop of a wild duck, and the nugget was the size of a fingernail! And my son melted it all down at a jeweler's to make a signet ring. It turned out to be about 11 or 12 grams. He doesn't wear it now. He himself has a 25-year-old son, my grandson. He probably takes after his grandfather! He doesn't wear anything! good
            1. -4
              20 July 2025 11: 28
              Vax's grandson is 25? And you are almost 80 then?
              1. + 13
                20 July 2025 11: 33
                Quote from: AllX_VahhaB
                Vax's grandson is 25? And you are almost 80 then?

                That's right! laughing
                I already have two great-grandchildren who are schoolchildren.
                These are granddaughters' children. And the granddaughter is the daughter of the eldest son, who is 56... laughing
                1. +1
                  20 July 2025 11: 46
                  Solid! And you are an active internet user? laughing Do you know how to use a smartphone?
                  1. + 12
                    20 July 2025 11: 55
                    Quote from: AllX_VahhaB
                    Solid! And you are an active internet user? laughing Do you know how to use a smartphone?

                    Well, regarding active, it’s probably a bit over the top. laughing
                    I started using a computer when I was still working (up to and including 2006). Now the computer is sitting at home almost unused. I rarely use it. I gave the printer to my grandson when he was studying at the university. And it's not that hard to master a smartphone after a computer. My younger son gave me some tips, but in case of a hitch I turn to my grandson more. laughing
                    The son is very busy... And the grandson works for his dad after university, and there is some kind of relaxation from his dad laughing
                  2. +5
                    20 July 2025 22: 27
                    Not surprised.
                    I'm 73, but I actively surf the net. I was able to register the Kenetic router in repeater mode myself.
                    What's wrong with that?
                    If you have a good education, then surfing the Internet is not difficult.
                    Now I barely recovered my password. I forgot it, but somehow I managed.
                    Maybe my hobby helps me.
                    I am an experienced amateur photographer and have mastered the scanner, scanned films and prints myself. I know Photoshop at a good level and have even tried AI.
                    Little time, but nothing complicated.
                    I started using the Internet a long time ago, back when salons were paid by the hour. And at work in 85 I was the only one who had an e-mail and the Internet.
                    The founder was ignorant. Sometimes he would ask a question like how much a brick costs, I would answer, I’ll look at the price lists, I don’t keep it in my head. And he would tell me with conviction: so you have a computer, press a button and it will tell you.
                    He doesn’t realize that he first needs to formulate a question and then find and select a normal link in a search engine.
                    So age is not a hindrance.
                    A smartphone has been added, and it has a lot of everything, programs for controlling the heating system, and the video surveillance system. Life dictates everything and you learn
                    My son is in the city, my wife is far from serious programs. Everything is on me.
              2. +2
                21 July 2025 09: 14
                I'm 58 now, my granddaughter is 6, the ratio is like this
        2. KCA
          +3
          20 July 2025 06: 43
          Anal is agile, but I wore a watch, the latest Casio, simple electronic, cheap, but water-resistant, it says up to 150m, I don't know how many times complete strangers shouted at me from the shore - WATCH, I answered, they don't give a damn, they are like that, the bracelet rotted, but the watch worked, but the mobile phone, nevertheless, displaced...
          1. +5
            20 July 2025 23: 52
            I still wear the watch because I feel like I don't have underwear without it. Mechanical, Invicta 89260B, stainless steel case and bracelet. As they say, homage to the Rolex Submariner, although Rolex considers it an unlicensed copy. Made in Japan - certainly not Switzerland, but not China either. Waterproof to 200 m, I'm not a scuba diver, so I haven't checked, but I once swam in the sea, no consequences, only washed off the salt afterwards. Self-winding, but if you don't wear it for a couple of days, it will stop. It lags by about a minute a month, I usually get it wrong when I change the calendar, which has 31 days regardless of the month.
            1. +1
              21 July 2025 09: 17
              invicta 8926 made in japan? are you sure about that, is there a stamp? invicta is mostly made in china, some in switzerland...
            2. 0
              24 July 2025 12: 10
              Me too, without a watch it's like without hands. I take it off only before going to bed. I have our domestic watch. I've been wearing it for over 30 years. A gift from my wife for graduating from college. Although, I also want to buy an inexpensive plastic amphibian (Casio), so that I can wear it to the pool and sleep in it.
        3. +7
          20 July 2025 07: 26
          Quote: Dutchman Michel
          Quote: your vsr 66-67
          And I love wristwatches, and I still use wristwatches.
          Frankly, I never liked wearing any trinkets on my body, like watches, rings, chains, etc. Well, this is, of course, an individual matter. wink

          I don't like all sorts of trinkets either. But watches! It's probably either a habit or nostalgia.
          My parents bought me my first watch when I started studying in the 7th grade, probably in 1961. How much joy and pride there was!!! But they didn’t allow watches on your wrist at school, at least in the 7th grade and below. You had to hide them under your sleeve to get into school. At that time, there was a control of senior students at the entrance. They checked watches, socks (they didn’t let you in colored ones), hairstyles (they didn’t let you in with a Canadian one either), they didn’t let you in tight trousers, or colored shirts either. If you’re past the pioneer age, you must wear an adult tie, and for pioneers, of course, a pioneer tie!
          Fought with the hipsters laughing
          It looks wild now, but back then it was the norm.
          Yes, ballpoint pens were not yet allowed. They were not available for open sale, but you could buy them at a flea market (we called it a tolkuchka).
          1. +8
            20 July 2025 08: 47
            I don't like all sorts of trinkets either. But watches!
            ,,,I agree with you completely. good I'm crazy about watches, I have them with a leather strap and a bracelet, both quartz and mechanical, especially in the summer a watch is a must. winked
            1. +7
              20 July 2025 09: 05
              ,,something like that feel I feel uncomfortable without a watch on my hand.
              1. 0
                21 July 2025 01: 19
                hi
                But don't you want different watches, not just round ones with a dark dial? And with different straps - bracelets?
                P.S. I only recognized Casio, Tissot, I think, and Russian divers.
                sad
                1. +2
                  21 July 2025 07: 01
                  don't you want different watches,
                  "Why not, I'm happy with what I have, but what else I can get is too expensive for me" Yes
                  1. +1
                    21 July 2025 14: 00
                    "Why not, I'm happy with what I have, but what else I can get is too expensive for me"
                    ... the same condition.. "watch disease", the desire to find another watch - a nice condition, but addictive...
                    feel
                    By the way, you have everything in the box, under glass. I need to find a similar one to store it correctly, and not like laughing horrible lol ...
                    good
                2. +1
                  21 July 2025 09: 20
                  The boots are mostly black - the same color as the boots and the dial, I don't wear them on a belt, in the summer after a week of wearing the belt gets soaked with sweat and stinks terribly, only replacing it helps. I'm from Astrakhan, it gets hot there in the summer
                  1. -1
                    21 July 2025 14: 34
                    There are straps that can be washed and put in water, like Hirsch. They will cost twice as much belay more expensive than usual, but you can wear them three times more feel longer.
                    Well, in the hottest weather, IMHO, it’s better to have a watch on a metal bracelet - rinse it with water and everything is fine. Yes
                    Straps like nato made of durable fabric definitely won't go with boots and a suit... request
                    1. +1
                      22 July 2025 13: 46
                      Hirsch dear, I just choose a watch on a bracelet or buy a "mesh", you can make NATO straps yourself from elastic (which is for panties - the right width) black is always available :)
                      1. -1
                        22 July 2025 14: 04
                        laughing
                        Hmm, I never even thought about panties "in such a cut"...
                        good
                      2. +1
                        22 July 2025 14: 14
                        panties are for understanding, elastic band is sewn into a ring slightly larger than the size of the wrist and half a pin is inserted, I wore my Casio like that until I bought another bracelet
              2. +2
                21 July 2025 14: 33
                Quote: bubalik
                I feel uncomfortable without a watch on my hand.
                The same, without a watch, almost like with a phone forgotten at home (the latter, of course, is more problematic). I still have a "Vostok" (Made in the USSR) on my wrist, waterproof, shockproof, bought them in 1991, the last year of the USSR. Such "galoshes"...
            2. +1
              20 July 2025 11: 36
              A watch is a must, especially in summer.
              And in the Arctic region in winter too.
              Hello, Sergey!
              1. +3
                20 July 2025 11: 39
                Good afternoon, Anton!
                ,,,the first Montana watch was 1993 Yes
                1. 0
                  20 July 2025 12: 08
                  I didn't have a love affair with watches. And with my job, wearing them for 2 hours a day is just not that...
                2. +1
                  21 July 2025 13: 59
                  ,,,the first watch ,,montana,, was ,1993 yes
                  In 1990, I got my first electronic ones, Saturn (the same Montana)
            3. +3
              20 July 2025 11: 42
              I still have a Pobeda watch from the 50s! It works, and perfectly! True, I once had a classmate who was a watchmaker change the winding head. All the splines on the original one were worn out. This was somewhere in the late 80s or early 90s. I went on another vacation to Kuban, and took it with me specifically so that my classmate could clean it. When he came to pick it up, he asked me: - What are you doing in it? I opened it, and there was dirt and rust!
              “I check my nets while fishing,” I answer.
              That's what they did, he says. They were and are in such a state!
          2. +4
            20 July 2025 20: 47
            It looks wild now, but back then it was the norm.
            We were not allowed ballpoint pens. They were not available for open sale, but you could buy them at the flea market (we called it a tolkuchka).

            In the early 70s, in elementary school, we were also forbidden to use ballpoint pens - so that the handwriting would not be ruined. And although school desks traditionally still had holes for inkwells, the ink bottles themselves were only in the teachers' cupboard in the classrooms. And we wrote not with quills, but with these pens, if I remember correctly, for 35 kopecks with a rubber tip like a pipette.
            1. +3
              21 July 2025 10: 21
              Ha! If only it were the handwriting. I went to school in the late sixties (1969), and at that time very important nerds in glasses like these, with serious faces, claimed that using ballpoint pens leads to mental retardation. Oh wow!
              If on topic, then my habit of wearing a wristwatch is more related to the need and long-standing habit of constantly monitoring the time. Work - deputy for technology and technology and hobby - photography. Plus the habit of having my hands free, and the phone, on the contrary, is put away so as not to sow.
              I've been wearing Maurice Lacroix for 18 years now, although it's a quartz one; unfortunately, I didn't have enough money for a mechanical one.
              Recently, they have really started running, they are moving ahead by about thirty seconds a year. When they were younger, they were moving ahead by no more than five seconds a year.
              1. 0
                10 November 2025 05: 09
                Yes, he was right about the pens. Developing fine motor skills before age 8 is crucial. Writing with a pen and inkwell is very difficult if you're not used to it. And it really trains your brain. Nowadays, we have computers and gel pens. People write like illiterate peasants after a crash course.
            2. +2
              21 July 2025 12: 01
              We no longer wrote with pens, but with these pens, if I remember correctly, for 35 kopecks with a rubber tip like a pipette.

              This is the so-called fountain pen. It was filled with ink. They weren't yet with "pips", but piston ones. You rotate the rod at the back, and the piston moves inside and sucks in the ink. These were generally considered chic-modern. But if my memory serves me right, they were only allowed to be used in high school.
            3. +1
              21 July 2025 13: 01
              Quote: Richard
              And although school desks still traditionally had holes for inkwells, the ink bottles themselves were only in the teachers' cupboard in the classrooms. And we wrote not with quills, but with these pens, if I remember correctly, for 35 kopecks with a rubber tip like a pipette.

              We started with fountain pens in the 60s.

              And the pen is for sucking in the ink. It was Chinese - with a "golden pen"
            4. +2
              22 July 2025 08: 56
              In the early 70s, in elementary school, we were also forbidden to use ballpoint pens so that our handwriting wouldn’t get ruined.

              And I thought I was so lucky.... 77, the entire first grade was forced to write with such a pen. I had about 20 of them, sooner or later they started to malfunction, either leaking or tearing the paper. But my wife studied in a parallel class and immediately wrote with a ballpoint pen.


              ps The funniest thing is that already in the 90s I had to write a lot with a pen, copying drawings with ink onto tracing paper.
          3. +2
            24 July 2025 12: 14
            When we were kids, we chipped in and gave a watch to a mutual friend for his birthday. We really liked it, it was beautiful and expensive. It turned out to be a watch for shift workers. We gave it to a friend. He was late for school with it about five times. Soon he will probably be an admiral, but when we get together, he always reminds us of this. )))
          4. 0
            24 July 2025 19: 06
            As for ballpoints, in the late 70s, the first grade teacher made me write with ink, my father gave me his fountain pen, I took great care of it, it got lost in later times. So I remember ink stains and blotting paper very well. Although you could get felt-tip pens at the procurement office for waste paper.
        4. +1
          27 July 2025 22: 18
          Likewise. I just don't understand how it's not mine for you either.
      2. AAK
        +8
        20 July 2025 12: 28
        Here in the article our Brilliant Strategist was briefly mentioned with the IPF (Imperial Petrodvorets Factory) watch, like a patriot, but the Great One only started using this watch (though in a white gold case and with black opal details) in 2022, with the SVO, and before that he wore 3 brands of watches from the "Big Six" ("Blanpa", "Pathé Philippe", "Lange und Soehne"), the prices for which range from tens of thousands to a million euros, or 1 brand from close to the "First Six" - "Journe", also priced in tens of euros... so that the Great One could build, for example, a children's medical center with just his watch collection...
        1. +8
          21 July 2025 00: 08
          And do you remember the miracle performed by Mr. Gundyaev? There is no watch on his hand, but a Breguet is reflected in the polished tabletop. And how does a watch worth a decent car, or even a modest apartment, relate to the vow of non-covetousness?
          1. +1
            10 November 2025 05: 13
            Envy silently.
            Nobody forbids anyone to wear whatever they want.
        2. +2
          21 July 2025 09: 22
          the watch that VVP is currently wearing costs about a million, not a very affordable price, and yes, he has other watches, imported and not cheap
          1. +5
            21 July 2025 17: 12
            Quote: realist
            The watch that VVP is currently wearing costs something like a million
            Unlike Gundyaev, VVP did not take monastic vows.
            1. +2
              22 July 2025 13: 49
              Of course, I mean immodest watches. When Obama was elected, image makers advised him to exchange his Swiss Tag Heuer for $7 for American ones for $000. They called for modesty!
              1. 0
                10 November 2025 05: 16
                Generally, a cheap watch on the wrist of a rich or influential person looks like a challenge, hypocrisy, and cheap populism. If you're going to fit in, then fit in. And don't paint a horse. It's like, say, Steve Jobs wearing jeans and a T-shirt. Only those jeans and T-shirt, made of special cotton, cost as much as a good suit.
                1. 0
                  18 December 2025 12: 31
                  A lot of people of different income levels wear inexpensive Casio 105 or W800 and nothing!
        3. 0
          10 November 2025 05: 12
          What exactly are the complaints? The General Secretaries used to wear Swiss stuff. And then an Englishman showed up and forced them to make something high-quality. And it's good that such a thing exists. Looking at the president, everyone else will order our stuff. To keep up.
      3. 0
        21 July 2025 09: 09
        I don't have any Soviet ones, and I don't have any Russian ones either, the shortcomings of the Soviet ones have been aggravated by the Russian ones. But I wear watches, I have several watches.
    2. +6
      20 July 2025 04: 15
      On February 21, 2022, that is, the day when Russian President Vladimir Putin made a televised announcement and recognized the independence of the Lugansk and Donetsk People's Republics, he was wearing a watch from the Imperial Peterhof Factory (IPF)

      "Phantom pains" are such... it is difficult to understand and get used to the fact that they are just "phantom"... And the consequences of this misunderstanding are extremely severe...
      1. -3
        20 July 2025 21: 49
        Quote: Monster_Fat

        "Phantom pains" are such... it is difficult to understand and get used to the fact that they are just "phantom"... And the consequences of this misunderstanding are extremely severe...

        Don't tell me! What can you expect from us? From a gas station with an economy that's been smashed to pieces and is the fourth largest in the world. laughing Take a pill.
    3. -2
      20 July 2025 04: 52
      Quote: Dutchman Michel
      As soon as I bought my first phone (still a push-button one), the need for a watch immediately disappeared.

      And I still wore it for some time...
    4. + 10
      20 July 2025 08: 45
      Quote: Dutchman Michel
      phone (still push-button), so the need for a watch immediately disappeared

      constantly reaching into your pocket and back instead of simply moving your hand? request I do not know...

      At school (60-70s) not everyone had a watch in the senior classes. Vostok and Komandirskie watches worked for a long time.

      I have been using titanium Orient at the car factory for 25 years, including at sea, in the pool, etc...
      1. +1
        20 July 2025 10: 18
        I wore Casio for a long time, 10-12 years, and then I started forgetting to put it on in the morning - it was heavy...
        They've been in the drawer for a long time
        1. +4
          20 July 2025 10: 36
          and how to find out the time - torment your pocket with a mobile phone? In the morning, the watch. is put on automatically. Of course, everyone has their own habits and tastes...
          1. +1
            20 July 2025 11: 09
            Quote: Olgovich
            and how to find out the time - torment your pocket with a mobile phone? In the morning, the watch. is put on automatically. Of course, everyone has their own habits and tastes...

            Time is not pressing, my stomach reminds me about lunch, and the control center regularly falls on the phone, so the time is known for half an hour.
            And the computer is right in front of my eyes...
        2. 0
          21 July 2025 09: 24
          I'm currently wearing a watch that weighs 260 grams and it doesn't bother me at all!
          1. +1
            21 July 2025 09: 31
            Quote: realist
            I'm currently wearing a watch that weighs 260 grams and it doesn't bother me at all!

            Maybe the state of health, weight, character, work - are different, no? I just started forgetting to put them on - and why should I force myself? No forget put on a watch!!??

            In 1998, bandits were caught in Orenburg crossing the border with heroin. Classic skinheads with chains...
            The chains with crosses weighed from 270 to 420 grams. And it's okay, we wore them somehow...
            1. 0
              21 July 2025 13: 34
              58 years old, seems to be in good health, calm character, height 180, weight 92, I work as a builder. About 10 years ago they offered me an orphan set, a chain plus a cross, together a kilogram of gold, I didn’t risk buying it. A responsible purchase.
              1. 0
                21 July 2025 14: 16
                Quote: realist
                58 years old, seems to be in good health, calm character, height 180, weight 92, I work as a builder.

                55, my health is terrible, 192, weight 130, "damned bureaucrat" - I'm telling you, you can't fool your body. It says "I don't want to" and that's it.
                1. +1
                  22 July 2025 13: 43
                  Don't deceive your body! You need to take care of your health! I can do 70 push-ups, I go to the gym, I bench press, 100 kg is my training weight. You need to feed the worms tasty meat!
        3. +1
          10 November 2025 05: 17
          Casio is just a really clunky watch. I always want to take it off.
      2. +3
        20 July 2025 11: 28
        "I have been using titanium Orient for 25 years at the car factory, including at sea, in the pool, etc.."

        since 97 Orient in a stainless steel case with gold plating... The gold plating has long since worn off, only a little remains in the corners of the joints... repaired four times.
        I wear it with pleasure!
        1. -1
          20 July 2025 12: 09
          Quote: ved_med12
          repaired four times

          too much... I've never encountered this before.. (three pah)
          1. +4
            20 July 2025 12: 15
            The car factory is failing here...
            At the construction site I forgot to take it off before working with a breaker, that's it, take it to the repair shop... And if you don't carry it constantly, they stop. There is no manual winding. sad
        2. +5
          20 July 2025 16: 32
          Titanium Orient

          Greetings, Ilmir!
          In the 80s, Orient was at the top in OKSVA. As gifts to loved ones, they bought various Montanas with seven melodies and Casios with calculators. But for themselves, only Seiko or Orient. On the advice of a platoon commander, I then bought a quartz Orient Titanium on a titanium bracelet - light, not afraid of scratches, mechanical impacts, temperature, moisture, or sandstorms. The watch really turned out to be "indestructible". I served with them both my conscription, and the VPVKU, and 27 years of active service. They are still alive and well. But today, at the insistence of the children, my wife and I wear "smart watches" with a heart rate monitor, SMS and various health functions (in the photo on the left). Age.
      3. +5
        20 July 2025 16: 12
        I bought a used Vostok Amphibia, Soviet. Gave it to the craftsmen, they changed what was necessary, applied new luminous mass to the hands and hour markers, I wear it. The accuracy is satisfactory. You can swim. But when working with a percussion instrument, I still remove it.
    5. +5
      21 July 2025 08: 09
      Apparently, it's a matter of habit. I've been wearing watches since about the 2nd grade of school (the first ones were "singled out" by my parents). I can't say anything bad about Soviet watches - I used my father's used "Slava", then a new "Slava" (my father bought two identical watches - for himself and for me), then, in the fashion of the late 80s (when many ran to electronic ones), there were two models of the Soviet "Elektronika". Everything, in general, worked quite correctly. There was also foreign consumer goods like "Montana" with melodies and some other crap with a calculator. Then, already at the institute, I took the Orient from my father (my father, God rest his soul, was a unique person - his watches did not last long, even the "commander's" ones, they simply stopped), repaired them and wore them for about 10 years. Then there were other Orients - bought and given as gifts (the good price-quality ratio was attractive). About 8 years ago I switched to a smartwatch... and although I've been using smartphones for 17 years (and cell phones for almost 30... since 96), without a watch on my hand - "like without hands" (c)
      1. 0
        24 July 2025 09: 09
        I bought my first cell phone in 1998, probably a smartphone in 2001, I don't wear a smart watch, I've been wearing a watch since 1981, my father gave me his Vostok and then it went on. I've been using it for about 14 hours now
  2. +7
    20 July 2025 04: 42
    The first attempts to establish domestic watch production were undertaken under Catherine II - in 1774, the first watch manufactory in Russia was founded, and in 1784, the Swede Peter Nordstein, with the assistance of Grigory Potemkin, opened a manufactory that produced pocket watches, but, ultimately, the watch factories opened in St. Petersburg and Moscow closed after a few years.

    The article gives the impression of being written in a hurry to fill a section. There is minimal information and even that is distorted.
    The initiative to create the first state or, as they were then called, "government" factories belonged to Count Grigory Grigorievich Orlov. In January 1764, the Count wrote a report to Catherine II with specific proposals for organizing watch factories in Russia. Catherine II approved the initiative and in 1764 issued a decree ordering the creation of watch factories in Moscow and St. Petersburg.
    In the same year, watch factories began operating; the Moscow one was headed by a Frenchman from Geneva, Mark Fazy, and the St. Petersburg one was headed by masters Robert Jurinet, Abraham Sanda and Joseph Basilier, who had come from Stockholm.
    And Nordstein opened the factory in 1794.
    1. +1
      21 July 2025 09: 25
      The author is a jack of all trades, a specialist in all matters.
  3. +7
    20 July 2025 05: 16
    Quote from: AllX_VahhaB
    And I still wore it for some time...
    And I still wear it. It's not very convenient to reach into your pocket every time you need your phone. I bought one for myself a few years ago. Wildberries electronic clock Casio for 160 rubles. I still wear it...
    1. +7
      20 July 2025 21: 21
      I started wearing my first wristwatch early - in the fifth grade. My grandfather was a disabled person in the Great Patriotic War due to his vision impairment, and the VOS gave out special watches called "Raketa" for the blind for free every three years (photo 1). The lid opened and there was a special dial by which you could tell the time by touch. My grandfather usually gave me the new ones and wore the old ones himself. In the 90s, talking watches for the blind appeared (photo 2), but my grandfather, alas, did not live to see that time.
  4. + 12
    20 July 2025 05: 58
    Once upon a time, there was a watch factory called "Luch" in Minsk. 1988 or 1989. I was on a business trip to Minsk. In the city center, there was a department store called "Minsk". Somehow, I ended up in the watch section and liked one model. I wanted to buy it, but it turned out that they only sell them with a passport and local registration. What should I do? Without thinking twice, I called a good friend of mine who worked in the CM BSSR apparatus, which was located literally 100 meters away, and asked for help. My friend said that instead of "tormenting myself with nonsense", I should take a trolleybus, ride 3 or 4 stops to the "Luch" factory, call "Ivan Ivanovich" on the internal phone there, and he would solve all the problems. I went. "Ivan Ivanovich" turned out to be the deputy director of sales. Without further ado, he took me to the showroom of the factory's products. And then I was stunned! There were about 20 men's models and probably more than 100 women's models! I have never seen such beauty, plus some models on bracelets. The deputy, seeing my jaw drop, said that this is small-scale production for now, since there is no demand, so right now they cannot provide more than 1000 pieces of one model, but if there is a long-term contract, then they will master any quantity in six months. He decided that I was a wholesale buyer! I sincerely felt sorry for him when I explained that I only needed 1 (one piece). But then I remembered my women (wife, daughters, etc.) and asked how much a women's watch cost. It turned out to be 14 rubles (for reference: a bottle of vodka cost 7-70) (men's - 19 rubles).
    It turned out that the factory had practically stopped due to lack of sales, and its products were sold in the store only with a passport! This is how the Soviet watch industry was ruined.
    And my daughters wore these beautiful watches for a couple more years, causing genuine envy among their friends.
    1. +5
      20 July 2025 08: 43
      Once upon a time there was a watch factory called "Luch" in Minsk.
      , Luch brand watches are still being produced
      1. +1
        20 July 2025 08: 45
        That's very good. I just haven't been to Minsk for 15 years. drinks
        1. +2
          21 July 2025 09: 04
          I was on a business trip to Minsk at the end of 21. I couldn't help but drop into the shop right at the factory and bought my wife a watch as a souvenir from the trip. The model was very interesting in design, not to mention that for us it was clearly exclusive (well, that is, the second one will clearly not come across in the process of use)
      2. +3
        20 July 2025 11: 52
        Quote: bubalik
        , Luch brand watches are still being produced

        My first watch was a "Luch" in a gilded case. At that time, it was the thinnest watch in the world. In the army, it saved my hand. The watch took a hit and bent about 10 degrees. The most amazing thing is that it still worked after that. wink They have survived. I wear the "Commander's" ones - a gift.
    2. +2
      20 July 2025 11: 43
      More than a hundred models of women's watches...with no more than two internal mechanisms, alas.
    3. +1
      20 July 2025 16: 57
      Quote: Amateur
      Once upon a time there was a watch factory called "Luch" in Minsk.

      What do you mean there was? It still is. The rays are sold, you can buy them freely.
  5. +6
    20 July 2025 07: 39
    For example, in 1930... It is characteristic that the US sold them despite sanctions
    During the Great Depression, this is not surprising. It is strange that the author does not know such a historical fact.
  6. +2
    20 July 2025 07: 40
    Although there were exceptions, for example, the Vostok Precision watch, whose caliber was created on the basis of the Swiss caliber Zenith 135, had an accuracy of +/- 10 seconds per day.

    I had a watch (a gift from my father) Mayak. It was on time. If the hands ever got out of order, it was only when I forgot to wind it. He bought it in the early 50s, and it was "stolen" from me in the mid-70s (I left it on the sink)...
    My wife's ZiM watch lasted almost 40 years...
    Maybe not by world standards, but it had its own...
  7. +6
    20 July 2025 07: 43
    Given the limited number of luxury goods available in the USSR

    Louis Vuitton was not there, what a nightmare! laughing
  8. +2
    20 July 2025 07: 59
    I was interested in where the "Imperial Peterhof Factory" came from. It turned out that history was being rewritten again. There was the Peterhof cutting factory. They cut precious stones, and began to produce watches in the middle of the 20th century. And then, in a democracy, they hastily called the enterprise imperial.
    1. +2
      20 July 2025 08: 47
      How do watchmakers in Switzerland know the correct name? They were ordered "Under Russian Antiquity", but the exact text was not written.
  9. BAI
    +5
    20 July 2025 08: 47
    The author somehow kept silent about the pocket watch. Pocket watch "Molniya", 1982. Still in working order, excellent accuracy. When we were in the Caucasus Mountains in the 80s, we used it to set the electronic watch
    1. +4
      20 July 2025 09: 02
      Yes! I wore these! Super watch!
    2. +2
      20 July 2025 17: 00
      Quote: BAI
      The author somehow kept silent about the pocket watch. Pocket watch "Molniya", 1982.

      By the way, Molniya has been revived. Their watches can be bought, even with the original mechanism.
  10. +4
    20 July 2025 08: 51
    One of the oldest factories was not mentioned
    Plant named after A. A. Maslennikov Kuibyshev/Samara.

    In 1937, the company launched watch production, which subsequently produced up to 2,5 million wristwatches per year, including those under its own ZiM logo.
    The Pobeda watch, production of which began in 1950 and continued until the final closure of the enterprise in 2002, also became widely known.
  11. 0
    20 July 2025 10: 05
    The accuracy of Soviet watches is almost comparable to the accuracy of inexpensive or average Swiss watches, despite the lack of a standard.

    I'm not sure, but the USSR very quickly developed its own "space" watch with an LCD display. The same thing may happen with cars with an internal combustion engine; as electric cars spread, cars with an internal combustion engine will be subject to additional taxes, so not everyone will be able to afford such luxury as a German 1.9 TDI.
    1. +4
      20 July 2025 19: 25
      Quote: 1944-1989
      ...as electric vehicles become more widespread, internal combustion engine vehicles will be subject to additional taxes... .

      If you look at the production of batteries and their disposal, there are doubts about the environmental friendliness of electric cars. Is this not another marketing ploy?
      1. +1
        21 July 2025 12: 11
        On closer inspection, it turns out that green technologies are not so green. For example, wind turbine rotor blades are buried after use. The Germans, who have a lot of them, bury them in Africa, and send smaller waste to Poland.

        Once, while working at a company, I was transporting a load of roofing sheets containing asbestos. It turned out that the "environmental" company was burying the tiles along with pallets and polyethylene film. I reported this, and six months later everything remained the same. They just stopped dumping them in the pit.
        1. 0
          21 July 2025 13: 27
          Quote: 1944-1989
          On closer inspection, it turns out that green technologies are not so green after all.

          That's what I'm talking about. The question is, who benefits from such an ecology?
    2. +4
      20 July 2025 23: 45
      their own "space" watch with LCD display appeared
      It was a series of watches Elektronika that appeared in the early 80s. Quite a competitive option compared to foreign ones. Modern design, steel bracelet.
      But the price is about 120 rubles, at that time the salary of a young specialist is gross. At the same time, the cost of good mechanics in a steel case is about 25 rubles.
  12. +9
    20 July 2025 10: 45
    Peterhof watch factory is now "WATCH FACTORY "RAKETA"
    The owner is French. He created (preserved, restored) a full-cycle production. Calibers (mechanisms) are completely made at the plant.
    Today, Raketa is one of the rare world manufactures that produces its own watch mechanisms from A to Z, including the most complex parts: the hairspring and balance.
    Cost from 50 thousand to ....
  13. +3
    20 July 2025 11: 09
    Supposedly the watch production has been preserved to some extent:
    Petrodvorets Watch Factory
    Flight-Chronos
    Slava Plant
    Penza Watch Factory
    Vostok Watch Makers, Inc.
    Chelyabinsk Watch Factory "Molniya"
    Uglich watch factory
    Zlatoust watch factory
    Watch Factory "Nika"
    Konstantin Chaykin watch manufacture
    1. +5
      20 July 2025 12: 59
      Andrew,
      welcome
      I'll tell you about the Peterhof Watch Factory, since I'm a big fan of it, I still have a rare "Raketa" with a perpetual calendar. When we saw it in the PCHZ office in Moscow, we were stunned, they say that there are basically no such ones left now.
      I lived not far from the plant in the last years of Soviet power, it was then producing like crazy, a huge number of hand-assembled mechanisms...sent to Switzerland...The plant itself was built in the 80s - huge and modern.
      Now the plant has been restored, but how?
      It seems that the Frenchman, a fan of "Raketa" about ten years ago. This is not the gigantic plant, but a small workshop, the mechanisms are made by hand and practically piecemeal production of "Raketa" - prices from 100 thousand.
      And so all brands, or Chinese mechs, "Rockets" - skeletons - are expensive, because the mechanism is assembled manually
      hi
      1. +4
        20 July 2025 14: 18
        Eduard, there are quite a lot of materials on the Raketa on the Internet. About 150 people in production. About 50% of the production is made to order, the rest is in several salons, including abroad.
        Along with the purchase of the plant, the rights to Soviet proprietary developments were obtained. Modern mechanisms were created on their basis.
        As an interesting fact, the owner mentioned the presence of Western machines that have been preserved since the 80s. In the West, they were replaced by Robots, assembled from standard components manufactured in mega-factories. At Raketa, a reserve of super-precise semi-automatic machines has been preserved, on which you can do everything yourself. First, the owner restored the Soviet "foundation" of production, and then developed it further. It was possible to reach the world top (for ordinary people this is not important, unlike professionals) in terms of operating time without winding and the quality of surface treatment of parts. Therefore, the back covers are transparent, so that the excellent mechanism is visible. Collector's series are produced. My first watch in the 7th grade was also Raketa. We bought it in Peterhof.
        1. +1
          20 July 2025 15: 48
          Vladimir,
          thanks for adding.
          I'm subscribed to the modern "Raketa", I see the models and prices)
          hi
          1. +1
            20 July 2025 17: 07
            Quote: Eduard Vaschenko
            I'm subscribed to the modern "Raketa", I see the models and prices)

            The price of a modern mechanical Rocket has already flown too far into space.
      2. +1
        20 July 2025 17: 04
        Quote: Eduard Vaschenko
        "Rocket" with a perpetual calendar

        They released a perpetual calendar for some time in the 2000-2010s, but then for some reason they stopped. Although we need to see if they launched it again.
        1. +2
          20 July 2025 23: 06
          They released a perpetual calendar for some time in the 2000-2010s, but then for some reason they stopped. Although we need to see if they launched it again.

          I have it until 1990.
      3. +2
        22 July 2025 12: 33
        Without a watch - like without panties ))))
        About 10 years ago in Lugano I got into a conversation with a watchmaker (I changed the spring under warranty at Cuervo y Sobrinos), I complained that the Swiss had started making watches not very well. So, he asked me - where am I from? I answered - from Russia. He answered me - because of the lousy quality of their calibers, Patek Philippe is installing Russian mechanisms from St. Petersburg (he was talking about Raketa, for them Petrodvorets is an unknown name), with a little decorative treatment of the plate and bridges....
        I still sometimes wear Vostok and Komandirskie jackets from the 60s and 70s for special occasions...
        I have kept all the watches except the electronic ones that I have bought in my life, my children take their hats off to me, although they only wear smart watches...
        1. 0
          22 July 2025 13: 12
          Quote: Vasily_Ostrovsky
          Saved all the hours

          I also saved the ones in a gold case
          1. +2
            22 July 2025 13: 25
            Gold, gold, gold... in my youth and the initial period of independent work I also strove for such a gold attribute... with age and awareness of the transience of time and bright values, there was a turn to "modest luxury"))) steel, silver, platinum - that is, an inconspicuous external component... whoever needs it will understand that on the hand is a Patek or Vacheron Constantin, and it does not matter - with a tourbillon, a perpetual calendar or with the simplest caliber))) and if on the hand of an independent person is a fifty-year-old Komandirskie - then this testifies to his contempt for tinsel... something like that...
            In my practice, they often look at the counterparty, sometimes even according to the principle - no Patek - then there is nothing to talk to him )))
            And when you put on Komandirskie or Slava for the second meeting, and answer the silent question - this is my father's/grandfather's watch, they are dearer to me than anything else, then all the chaff falls off and they feel somehow uncomfortable about their Pateks with a tourbillon ))) hee-hee )))
            Moreover, if these are our citizens, then, as a rule, very often the expensive watches were bought with stolen goods...
            1. -1
              24 July 2025 08: 24
              Quote: Vasily_Ostrovsky
              I also strove for such a golden attribute.

              Not mine - my father's. That's how they invested money back then.
              Quote: Vasily_Ostrovsky
              Commanders from fifty years ago

              the army commanders were hopelessly broken and...
              1. 0
                24 July 2025 17: 01
                The first ones I bought myself are still running, and the second ones - in a gilded case - have peacefully passed away...

                My mother had a gold Chaika watch, but in the difficult 60s (around 65-67) we were forced to sell it, we lived poorly, we didn’t have enough for many things, even though my father was an officer...
        2. 0
          24 July 2025 11: 57
          I agree with you 100%
          1. +1
            24 July 2025 17: 15
            Thanks for your kind words...
        3. 0
          10 November 2025 05: 31
          About Patek... well, I don't know. Pateks are thin watches, while Raketa's calibers are a bit thick. Although, maybe we should remove the automatic winding...
        4. +2
          10 November 2025 05: 49
          Holy shit... Traser P68 Pathfinder, mechanical, cheap, but it works. And it's easy to see in the dark. What else do you need, if not aesthetics? laughing
      4. 0
        10 November 2025 05: 28
        English, not French. Incidentally, he speaks Russian well. And you simply don't need more watches. It's either quality or quantity. Mechanical watches are only for amateurs these days.
        Regarding Soviet movements in Switzerland... We stole a watch factory from the Germans after the war. The one that made German movements for the Poljot or Slava (?). They were installed in Frank Müller's watches (Swiss). So F. Müller bought these (his) movements for his watches. But! They completely reassembled them, relubricated them, and changed some things. It was cheaper that way.
      5. 0
        10 November 2025 05: 50
        David Henderson-Stewart, owner of the Raketa plant, lives in Russia and speaks Russian.
        There are plenty of videos with him.
    2. 0
      22 July 2025 12: 49
      The Uglich watch factory surprised me with a limited edition watch with a meteorite dial, I looked at it with pleasure, I even put it aside as a gift for myself, my beloved )))
      Original watch, very stylish and incredibly beautiful )))
  14. +2
    20 July 2025 15: 10
    It must be acknowledged that the famous Chistopol factory has forgotten how to make watches, and even the legendary *commander's* have become worse than the Chinese ones.
    tested on myself.
    1. +2
      20 July 2025 19: 45
      Modern commander's watches have only 3 conditional disadvantages compared to the Chinese, who put the NH35R mechanism: the absence of a stop second, the absence of an accelerated calendar adjustment, insufficient protection from impacts, compared to the Japanese licensed mechanism. You can also call the absence of a normal luminous mass, but this, like accuracy, is done. In any case, these are normal watches for their money even now.
      1. 0
        2 August 2025 14: 59
        who knows. were *commanders*. in the store they immediately warn - like, if anything happens, it's under warranty.
        and it came in handy. The watch was repaired 3 times. According to the craftsmen, the mechanism is ours, not Chinese.
        When they broke for the fourth time, I unwound them and threw them out of the stern.
        The devil made me give the Chistopol ones. I bought new ones as a gift. Same story.
        then I bought some Chinese ones, inexpensive. and everything works great. I bathed in them. 4 years - everything is fine.
        No, there used to be *commander's* ones. My grandfather's worked reliably.
        but when the country disappeared, they started releasing junk.
        tested on myself.
        1. 0
          2 August 2025 15: 18
          and it came in handy.
          - I never needed it, although I gave the watch to the watchmakers for repassage immediately after buying it. According to them, the quality of the parts is inferior to the Soviet one, but quite acceptable. And they adjusted it for me so that the accuracy was noticeably higher -20/+60 sec/day. So for about 5 years I had no problems with determining the time with it. I heard from some friends that they bought a watch at the Chistopol factory and it stopped working after a week. But I didn't have this. Maybe because I didn't buy it at the factory laughing
          1. 0
            2 August 2025 15: 20
            I'm not at the factory either. In Yaroslavl and in Astrakhan.
      2. 0
        10 November 2025 05: 34
        Chistopol movements were of good quality in the 80s and 90s. Unfortunately, they're not anymore.
      3. 0
        10 November 2025 05: 52
        Now they are one big disadvantage.
  15. +5
    20 July 2025 16: 49
    One of the rare moments on VO when both the publication itself and the comments-discussions are equally interesting!)
    Well, we can talk calmly!)
    1. +1
      24 July 2025 09: 14
      very often the comments are more informative than the article itself! you learn so many interesting things!
  16. 0
    20 July 2025 17: 05
    My first watch, given to me by my uncle in the village, somewhere in the early 70s. I remember that in the house on nails hammered into the wall hung three wristwatches. And I picked out the ones I liked. I would wear them now. And also, the author writes about the low quality of hunting rifles. So in a simple Belarusian village we had two hunting rifles that we took hunting. And one was lying disassembled. And I remember the beautiful engraving with hunting scenes on the metal plates. All the rifles were, in my opinion, from the Tula plant. In all my life I have not seen anything like this. This means that in the USSR, not everything was so bad with production. If these things were in rural areas.
    1. +3
      21 July 2025 09: 43
      Quote from lako
      somewhere in the early 70s

      Quote from lako
      All the guns were, in my opinion, from the Tula plant. I have never seen anything like that in my entire life. This means that in the USSR, not everything was so bad with production. If these things were in rural areas.

      Up until the 1970s, the guns were pretty good, but then it was "plan on the shaft - shaft on the plan". And they started making things anyhow. Right down to the curvature of the barrels on double-barreled guns - my father (1980) wanted to buy one for himself, so he took two friends with experience. They went through all the guns in the store - they couldn't choose. So my father lost interest in hunting...
      I bought a gun in 2005, went through a bunch of ours - in the end I bought a 5-load Turk.
  17. +4
    20 July 2025 17: 35
    In the evening there is an opportunity to be a bore.
    Cesium atomic clock - this is an incorrect signature. Just a pretty picture from the Internet related to other equipment.
    1. Atomic clock is a journalistic term. Technically correct - a frequency and time standard. First, an exact sine signal of 5 or 10 MHz frequency is formed, and then a synchronous grid of frequencies and times is created, tied to some conventional time "zero".
    The battle is to ensure long-term stability of the reference signal.
    Cesium frequency standards (primary standard):
    Long-term stability is on the order of 10⁻¹⁵ – 10⁻¹⁶ per month, and even better when averaged over a year. This means that the frequency changes by no more than 1 part in 10¹⁵ – 10¹⁶ per month.

    Rubidium frequency standards:
    They usually have a stability of about 10⁻¹² - 10⁻¹³ per month, which is worse than that of cesium ones.

    Optical frequency standards (modern experimental):
    They can achieve stability of the order of 10⁻¹⁸ and better over long intervals, but are currently used mainly in laboratories.

    The picture in the title refers to this thing.
    The QUEST Institute (Quantum Engineering and Space-Time Research) at the German National Metrology Institute (Physikalisch-Technische Bundesanstalt, PTB) is one of the world's leading centres in the development of optical atomic clocks.

    Experimental setup on optical transitions in ions or neutral atoms, such as yterbium (Yb⁺), strontium (Sr) or aluminum (Al⁺) ions.
    At PTB, optical lattice clocks based on neutral strontium (Sr) atoms are being widely developed.
    An ultra-narrow optical transition with a frequency of the order of hundreds of terahertz (10¹⁴–10¹⁵ Hz) is used, which provides a much higher signal frequency compared to microwave transitions in cesium clocks.
    High frequency allows to achieve significantly better stability and accuracy.
    Stability of the order of 10⁻¹⁸ and even better is achieved within hours and days of measurements.
    Systematic errors (frequency shifts due to external factors) are reduced to the level of 10⁻¹⁸, which corresponds to an error of a fraction of a second over billions of years.
    Use of very narrow linewidth lasers stabilized by optical resonators.
    Application of laser cooling and trapping methods for atoms in optical lattices to minimize Doppler and other shifts.
    Emphasis on reducing the influence of external fields (magnetic, electrical) and temperature.
    Creation of a new definition of the second in the SI based on optical transitions.
    Improving the accuracy of global navigation systems.
    Research in fundamental physics: testing the constancy of fundamental constants, tests of general relativity.
    Possibilities for geodesy with the "altimeter watch" - measuring gravitational potential with high accuracy.

    1. +1
      20 July 2025 20: 49
      [Possibilities for geodesy using the "altimeter watch" - measuring gravitational potential with high accuracy.

      ГЭТ 1-2022.Государственный первичный эталон единиц времени, частоты и национальной шкалы времени см. фото. Судя по поверочной схеме https://www.rostest.ru/company/%D0%93%D0%9F%D0%A1_%D0%A1%D0%98%20%D0%B2%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%BC%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%20%D0%B8%20%D1%87%D0%B0%D1%81%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%8B_%D1%81%D1%85%D0%B5%D0%BC%D0%B0.pdf
      Mobile devices do not allow measuring gravitational time variations with an accuracy of several nanoseconds, which have been recorded under terrestrial conditions.
      1. +2
        21 July 2025 00: 00
        Well, yes, a small room filled with racks of equipment. I had experience working on a project to create "atomic clocks". I had to deal with primary standards, only older ones, of course. I managed to spin a hydrogen generator and standards on rubidium and cesium discriminators.
  18. 0
    20 July 2025 17: 40
    We forgot about the "Chaika" watch... And who made the Komandirskie?
    1. 0
      20 July 2025 17: 58
      And who made the Commander's?
      Made by the Chistopol plant. Their entire "Vostok" series - Komandirskie, Shturmanskie, Akvanavt...
  19. +2
    20 July 2025 20: 20
    Chelyabinsk factory "Molniya", the offspring of the First Moscow watch factory
    in the 50-70s specialized in military products, what did not pass military acceptance went into consumer goods. On the right is an aviation watch, on the left is Kasli casting + watches
  20. 0
    20 July 2025 22: 11
    Quote: Richard
    It looks wild now, but back then it was the norm.
    We were not allowed ballpoint pens. They were not available for open sale, but you could buy them at the flea market (we called it a tolkuchka).

    In the early 70s, in elementary school, we were also forbidden to use ballpoint pens - so that the handwriting would not be ruined. And although school desks traditionally still had holes for inkwells, the ink bottles themselves were only in the teachers' cupboard in the classrooms. And we wrote not with quills, but with these pens, if I remember correctly, for 35 kopecks with a rubber tip like a pipette.


    It's surprising that you used green ones. And I remember brown ones. Although that was already in 77-80.
  21. +1
    20 July 2025 23: 01
    Arguments are always one-sided.
    The military were forbidden. My father was a private sailor, no trinkets were allowed.
    This is a generation of military men and until 1972 it seems they weren’t allowed. Then my father retired and I just don’t know.
    But he was modest and even instead of orders and medals he almost always wore bars.
    When I was a barefoot child, I could wear rings made of wire with colored insulation; this was in the 1950s-65s.
    They themselves knew how to weave them from telephone cable. In 1969, a classmate found a gold ring with a signet, but without a stone.
    I gave it to the workshop and they cut some yellow stone into it. He wore it and wore it.
    Back then, even the boys didn't take risks wearing watches. Those were the days when they could screw someone over somewhere, especially if they were alone. They would bend change at movie theaters. The whole team would walk from home.
    In the evening and then in the army there was no time for gloves, then workers' faculty after the army and again studying in the daytime, that's when my mother made a signet ring for me and my brother from scrap gold, some kind of incomplete earrings and something else.
    A jeweler I know in the house made a signet ring with a monogram of my first and last name. But that's all Luton has, only 6.5 grams of gold.
    It looked massive, but inside it was stamped.
    I wore it at university, I was usually embarrassed and turned the signet ring upside down. From above it looked like a ring.
    Well, I wore it in companies.
    Then it got boring, the lads with Adidas, chains and bolts appeared, it became bad form to wear such things.
    I wore the wedding ring honestly. I am a civilian, they didn’t forbid me. The wedding ring was thin. It was for my wife with a diamond.
    I lost the ring somewhere when we were in the Emirates, I just stood at a gold market near a display case and some Indians took us into circulation. To get rid of them I had to buy a titanium ring, wide but not flashy and not precious. I stole 30 dollars, but there was nothing cheaper.
    Unfortunately, I wore it for 20 years without taking it off, but lost it in the parking lot of some shopping center.
    I recently bought a titanium ring of this type on Ali, it was cheaper and covered with some kind of varnish. The varnish rubbed off. I recently polished it with diamond paste on a felt boot and it’s pretty good. It’s modest, but it looks nice. I wear it and never hide it.
    I'm not particularly fond of cheating, and it was clear to women that I was married and had no prospects. It didn't stop everyone, but I didn't need it. I got married at 33 to an 18-year-old. So I have everything and the highest class. I'll be 40 on August 25.
    Maybe I'll live to see the golden age and not be a vegetable:))
    1. 0
      21 July 2025 18: 01
      I served in the army myself, two years after college, lieutenant. Everyone wore watches, even soldiers, what was forbidden was wedding rings. It was explained that there were cases when the ring got caught on something and tore off fingers.
  22. +1
    20 July 2025 23: 03
    The watch I remember most was my father's Pobeda.
    Unkillable and had enough accuracy
    And then in Moscow my father bought a Polet, those very super flat ones.
    Very thin and large. It's a pity he lost them, or they were stolen, cut off the strap.
  23. 0
    21 July 2025 17: 58
    My father had a Pobeda, like in the picture. I had many watches, the first was "Poljot" in a gold-plated case, then Electronica exactly like in the middle picture under "Electronic watches under the brand name "Elektronika" ...", with a metal bracelet. As I remember now, I bought it in the summer of 1977 in Voronezh, I received money for industrial practice and bought this watch, it cost 105 Soviet rubles then. To be honest, it's a bit expensive.
    The last watch - Casio. With the advent of the mobile phone, the need for a watch disappeared. Now the wristwatch is Garmin.
    This is purely to count steps, distance traveled (built-in GPC), heart rate. But mainly steps. Time on the watch is just a bonus. You can also swim in it. And this is a huge bonus, with all the watches listed in the article this could not be done at all quite.
  24. 0
    21 July 2025 19: 39
    Well, the accuracy of Soviet watches is debatable. In the early 70s, I served as a topographer in the OTR, where when setting directional angles for shooting while orienting myself by the Sun, I needed precise time - preferably to the second per second. For this, I adjusted my regular Vostok wristwatch with a correction mechanism that could be opened by removing the back cover. The time was verified using the exact time signals from the Mayak RS. After verification and adjustment, the daily drift was within 3-10 seconds, and for the needs of determining the angle, it was generally within 2-3 seconds, knowing the unevenness of the movement of the mechanism. At the same time, accuracy was required in winding the clock spring. Always at the same time and with the same tension. Interestingly, the Komandirskie and instrument aviation watches gave the worst result.
    1. +3
      22 July 2025 12: 45
      Right on target - maintain and care for your watch properly, follow these simple rules - and it will be simply awesome!
      Wind it at the same time, do not pull the spring to the stop, avoid hitting your hand with the watch, including in the face ))) and wash the places of attachment of the bracelet/belt and the back side from dirt in time. Well, lubricate it in the workshop once every 2-3 years - and there will be a chronometer!
      It turned out from experience that the notorious best Swiss ones have the same crap with precision, if you exploit them as we have become accustomed to...
      Why is a marine chronometer so accurate? Because you don't walk around it with a prayer (although that has happened!!!). And who wears a wristwatch if they are busy with real things and real work/service? That's the whole recipe for accuracy )))
  25. 0
    22 July 2025 06: 08
    I think it's time to cross mechanical watches and smart watches.
  26. -2
    22 July 2025 15: 29
    I read the comments, everything is sad... The boasting about withdrawing money to foreign offshores in the 90-00s (by buying foreign watches and all sorts of foreign straps for them) by pensioners who were born in the USSR and who received "the best education in the world" is touching... They still don't understand that by buying foreign products in the 90s/00s, they thereby bankrupted domestic watch factories, condemning their employees (and their family members) to a half-starved existence due to job loss. You should always buy only domestic!
    1. 0
      24 July 2025 17: 12
      You draw conclusions smartly... as follows from the comment, irresponsible citizens are to blame for the collapse of industry... my pince-nez even rose )))
      By the way, I bought (and still buy) mostly Russian watches, but unfortunately, there is nothing to buy, the choice is not rich: either clones of Western design, or Chinese mechanisms...
      They make their own calibers... well, maybe three fingers on one hand will be enough, but that's too much...
      Own design is a great rarity. Here Uglich surprised with its cases and dials, these are really worthy devices for the collection, I will definitely buy a couple of different ones - especially the meteorite theme, you won't find anything like that in Switzerland, that's a fact.
      But their mechanisms are Japanese or quartz...
      The Chinese make calibers with a tourbillon for a small price, very decent, and not expensive...

      You need to buy quality, and not by nationality - kvass patriotism costs the country dearly. No competition - no development, that's a fact.
      1. -1
        24 July 2025 21: 13
        Okay, bring home five foreign men and tell your wife - choose "quality, not nationality". And there is a chance that she will transfer your entire salary to a foreign offshore, giving it to a foreigner, if she chooses him, "competition" and an incentive for you to "develop". Only your family will become poorer and poorer... The same thing with the purchase of foreign things by our fellow citizens, instead of domestic ones
        1. 0
          24 July 2025 23: 32
          With all due respect, but very primitive...
          And yes, I'd rather spend a little more, but buy a reliable and high-quality product. With a "patriotic" purchase you'll lose in quality and reliability, and in service life.
          For example, Saratov refrigerators were very primitive, but the two-chamber Biryusa was very decent, even though it was built using foreign technology in a Soviet factory.
          The Moskvich, with all its love for the Motherland, was not a car, but a set of skilled hands. The car factory bought in Italy, which was going bankrupt, produced, although outdated, but very decent VAZ/FIAT cars...
          And so it is everywhere, even in defense - take the best from the opponent and develop further on its basis, and not stubbornly do your own bad...
          This is how our industry has grown at all times.
          But "hurray-patriotism" comes at a very high price, not only for one's personal wallet, but also for the country. Not seeing the best, even if it's for a ruble - well, it's very strange somehow, excuse my... French...
          There is a nomenclature where we are the best - from chocolate to rockets ))) but there is also something that we have not learned to do, unfortunately...
          Watches are exactly the industry where we can only compete on individual and very small numbers of hand-made models that we can neither repeat nor scale up.
          There are excellent watches, for example Uglichskie (well, I'm not promoting this factory, but they are really cool, believe me), but again - a very limited edition, albeit at a low price (honestly, a watch with a meteorite dial and an original design that no one else in the world has - and all this for 80-800 thousand rubles - well, very inexpensive, a shabby Rolex costs significantly more, although it's complete crap....)
        2. 0
          24 July 2025 23: 37
          by the way, bring foreign men home to your wife to choose from.... are you out of your mind?
          There used to be a saying: give your wife to your uncle, and go to... a woman with low social responsibility, so to speak...
          So the choice is obvious for me - my wife, my family, my country. And let others have fun with the choice )))
  27. 0
    24 July 2025 17: 29
    If you have the opportunity to get to a good shopping center, then in the salon of the Uglich Watch Factory you can see such beautiful and unusual watches.
    Unfortunately, the screenshot of the factory does not convey all the stunning beauty of these mechanisms, but I highly recommend seeing them in person )))
    You don't have to buy it, but you will definitely get pleasure - both aesthetic and engineering )))
    Especially the second option - you just can't even move away from the counter....
    1. 0
      25 July 2025 22: 06
      Is the mechanism Chinese? :)
      1. 0
        26 July 2025 00: 28
        The mechanisms are Swiss, Japanese - "Ronda" (Switzerland) and "Miyota" (Japan) and Belarusian, they talk about this honestly, and in general they even talk too much about the production )))
        They have 3 trade marks - Mikhail Moskvin, LINCOR and UCHZ itself.
        1. 0
          27 July 2025 18: 10
          As far as I know, only the name remains from Poljot, Slava faded away long ago. It seems that Poljot's crapmeters were made by Ma Time, I don't know how it is now. I left watchmaking long ago, and I don't regret it. :)
  28. 0
    25 July 2025 22: 05
    And I made a watch for myself. And not only for myself. :)
  29. 0
    26 July 2025 10: 13
    I always wore a watch, even on business trips to southern countries. I wear a mechanic, domestic, Vostok. So far they haven't let me down, my wife gave me a Swiss, mechanic, sapphire, all that, but the Vostok is somehow more familiar. The Vostok runs about 5-15 seconds a day, at the level of Swiss. I've never worn rings or chains, last year I started wearing a pendant with the formula of the universe. In retirement, you can, but I still don't wear rings.
  30. 0
    26 July 2025 10: 18
    As for quality, I bought an Orient watch in a second-hand shop in Tbilisi with my first lieutenant's salary. And that was in 1985. Can you imagine, they're still running, especially since they're automatic watches? That's the kind of quality the Japanese had. And who remembers Japanese cars? I served in the Far East in the 90s. The Japanese auto industry, although used, really helped us out back then, and even now almost all of the Far East is right-hand drive. And now look at the prices for good watches - sky-high.
  31. 0
    26 July 2025 12: 10
    A dying male attribute, like a cane. Previously, a respectable man without a cane was impossible - now it is perceived as showing off or eccentricity. The same fate awaits wristwatches.
  32. 0
    27 July 2025 14: 47
    I wear a Casio with sapphire glass and a black dial. Chinese, with a Japanese mechanism. On my right hand, with a metal bracelet. Indestructible. The case is torn, the bracelet is already the 4th or 5th. I don’t check the time on my phone, I automatically check the watch.
    Although the phone is always in my hands, I don't like digital ones. A watch on my hand is closer and more familiar. Without its weight, I feel like I'm naked)))
  33. 0
    28 July 2025 10: 19
    Quote: Olgovich
    Supposedly the watch production has been preserved to some extent:
    Petrodvorets Watch Factory
    Flight-Chronos
    Slava Plant
    Penza Watch Factory
    Vostok Watch Makers, Inc.
    Chelyabinsk Watch Factory "Molniya"
    Uglich watch factory
    Zlatoust watch factory
    Watch Factory "Nika"
    Konstantin Chaykin watch manufacture

    Yes, yes... Just look at what everyone has on their wrist... All Swiss and Japanese brands. Russian ones - for watch-lovers and collectors, and for... okay, let's not talk about sad things.
  34. 0
    10 September 2025 14: 30
    Watches have always had a dual function: it is the time, and before mobile phones this was critical, and the owner's status. Now, of course, it is only the second - it is nice to put an expensive watch on your hand. And those around you who understand will appreciate it. True, now there is a problem - in China, replicas are sold for $ 100, you can't tell them from a meter away...
    Soviet watches were quite good, especially now you understand their special, laconic design. Hundreds of thousands of pieces were shipped abroad per year, to dozens of countries. Stylish, inexpensive, reliable. Yes, the accuracy of the movement was average, but you could always adjust it once a week by radio signals, 2-3 minutes...
  35. 0
    16 October 2025 09: 37
    I destroyed my first few wristwatches, all of which were shock-resistant.
    After that I started wearing electronics (although I wanted Montana)
    then yes, with the advent of telephones and pagers, watches somehow ceased to be so necessary.
    I came back to them for office flair, and when I started jogging regularly in the park, it was convenient to control my music through the watch. Now I need a smartwatch for hands-free communication (while driving or cooking), music, and swimming.
  36. 0
    19 October 2025 14: 15
    A watch is worn by someone who needs it. Or for show. When I worked in chemistry, watches were, of course, out of the question. Wristwatches. Pocket watches didn't catch on. But when I retired and took up active sports... er... exercise—yes, I wear a watch day and night. Swatches used to be cheap and VERY durable. Both electronic and quartz. And now my son gave me a G-SHOCK. Even more durable, but big. But I have to wear them—they were gifts, after all! BABY-Gs were much more comfortable.
  37. 0
    16 November 2025 02: 16
    ...technically and qualitatively, Soviet watches began to lag significantly behind what was produced in Western countries.

    belay
    It seems my watches are of different quality from the author's. The Zarya (75 years old) is mechanical and in excellent condition. The Slava, 50 years old, has an electromechanical quartz movement and is in excellent condition, only the crystal was replaced. The Luch was sunk at sea. Mine, a commander's watch, was bought in Chistopol and broke after 20 years—the automatic winding failed. And the author hasn't explored the Raketa watch theme.
    And yes, the chanting about the accuracy of foreign watches is ridiculous, and a 6-second delay is excessive in consumer terms, in my opinion. The Luch, by the way, was about 15 seconds behind in a month.
  38. 0
    3 January 2026 16: 52
    I wear a watch. It feels strange without one. I have some relics: a "Poljot" watch - my parents bought me one after I finished eighth grade. A "Sekunda" watch - I bought it myself with my second paycheck. I also have my dad's "Sport" watches, like the "Pobeda," and my gift "Komandirskie" watches. request
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    8 January 2026 20: 47
    Throughout the last century, the watch industry was a supplier of personnel and technology for instrument making; it was impossible for any country not to have it.