Contactless martial arts: another myth

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Learning to own at least one of the energy techniques of contract-free martial arts is a tempting offer. What is this - another adventurous way of earning unscrupulous people or a breakthrough in man’s mastering the technique of using energy fields?

So far, the following facts are known: there are a lot of commercials for staged contactless fights, links to video courses and manuals for beginning fighters of a unique oriental type of martial arts - contactless combat. A large number of young guys who believe in the possibility of learning the unique method of martial arts, spend significant sums of money to pay for classes with the newly-minted Sensei. The guys spend their valuable time on training in martial arts, the specialists for which have never publicly fought with the real fighters. Yes, it was their own choice, but perhaps it is time to openly tell the truth about such a “virtual” method of struggle as a contactless battle.

Let's start with a simple one: did anyone see a real contact, not a staged fight, a contactless person (waving and hand passes in films are not considered)? Could you imagine that in a street fight one of the fighters would “scatter” his enemies with just a wave of his hand (or, at least, his legs) or by turning his head? Are the facts of the victory of the “energy warrior” over the armed man, etc., known?

Until now, only teachers' fights with their students, who pay a lot of money to their mentors for science, are available for viewing. True, the Internet posted one of the fights of kickboxer with contactless. But when viewing, the results of energy strikes are not visible, except that the masterly possession of avoiding real fighter-kickboxer attacks. But this cannot be called a real fight, because mastering the skill of avoiding enemy attacks is one of the exercises that is practiced in all martial arts sections. On the available publicly available video materials, no one saw the long-awaited miracle of technology. Maybe the noncontactor "was ashamed" or did not want to demonstrate the secret methods of the fight. But any dispute can be resolved in a simple way - to go to the carpet and prove for all the reality of the existence of such an interesting and tempting method of hand-to-hand fighting, such as contactless combat, against a specialist of any kind of contact martial art.

Unfortunately, we often witness the scams that artificially surround a halo of secrecy, election and inaccessibility. Newly-born contactless teachers refer to their chosenness and special abilities to master the power methods of hand-to-hand combat. A very convenient position - if you succeed, it means that you are just as elected as they are, and if not, it means that you are not given to comprehend the methods, and even more the peaks, of the energy methods of contactless defense and attack.

The fact that all the media are involved in promoting information about the existence of energy contactless martial art is not surprising. The mass media will advertise any nonsense for money (think of advertising "MMM", drugs for all illnesses, cigarettes, alcohol, etc.). And the customers of this information are confident that they will more than return the money spent on advertising by attracting new trainees to their schools, sections, etc. Moreover, the promotion of any, even delusional, ideas has now become much simpler: highly professional specialists in organizing PR campaigns have appeared, journalists are ready to write materials on any topic (as long as they pay money), agencies for the selection of actors and extras will gladly provide any organization with their wards for shooting staged video. So the average person also feeds the young people with fairy tales that the contactless person easily, without touching his rivals, throws the attackers at him or disarms the armed special forces with one pass to the teeth.

After such skilful handling, a mass of people are knocking down the shaft into the contactless sections, carrying their money, for the right to possess secret power struggle skills. Youths already in their imagination see how easy they defeat their enemies in street fights. They are enthusiastically ready to blindly follow the advice of their latter-day instructors, mastering the methods of meditation and control over their own biofield under their vigilant eye, train their “special” look, learn to concentrate and control the mysterious energy. They try to pronounce correctly and try to understand a lot of unusual and beautiful words - energy flows, the upper and lower energy channels, etc. Sensei hammered their students into the head, carefully prepared a beautiful fairy tale that the Ancient East is the birthplace of contactless combat. It was there, over the millennia, that a technique was developed to develop the strength of mind and thought, which are the basis of the ability to conduct an energy contactless hand-to-hand battle. That according to this secret method, Russian special forces soldiers are trained. Newly-minted Sensei are ready to transfer the ability to conduct an effective contactless battle to anyone who wishes, but for a fee, of course.

This idle talk occupies most of the time the student. And it lasts until the student has run out of money or patience. In an edification to the remaining students, Sensei, in the event of the departure of the next listener, argues that the comrade who had left them could not reach the proper level of enlightenment (a very convenient and not provable wording).

But is it safe to cheat with the training of young people contactless martial arts? As a result of their training, with an empty waving of their hands, of course, no one gets hurt, “sparing partners” go home without bruises and cuts, but the harm from such machinations and showing off is still huge. Young guys, instead of mastering real military specialties and fire training, spend time on empty training in submission and use in combat with the enemy of their energy field. How many lives can such a false science carry in real, cruel, not for life, but for death, in battle?

By the way, there is a video on the Internet, where an ordinary fighter easily fought off Sensei-contactless in open battle in the ring (see video). Only such true information is not as advertised as the commercial projects of a large number of schools, sections, or groups for training in contactless martial arts.

Materials used:
http://russznahar.narod.ru/combat.htm
http://www.fire70.ru/beskontaktnii-boi.htm


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  1. +1
    April 16 2013 07: 57
    The topic is interesting, and I want to know the opposite point of view. If there is someone who came across Kadochnikov’s system, please comment, it seems that there is also a contactless direction.
    And the author’s comparison with MMM is not correct, because in the financial pyramids, a smaller part of people received what they came for, i.e. increase in their contributions and this attracted new investors. If this scheme is followed, then the first student who came to the contactless combat section should be trained in real actions (with obtaining the declared skills) and understand this himself in order to bring more 10 newcomers to take money from, but not to train.
    1. Yarbay
      +12
      April 16 2013 08: 05
      power struggle !!

      1. Fox
        +18
        April 16 2013 09: 00
        Quote: Yarbay
        power struggle !!

        incorrect video! Aikido will tear any sucker! (the main thing is that I wouldn’t resist ... but it’s a smaller font on the last page of the advertisement.) wink I myself was engaged in sambo and boxing. Sometimes and now I am mating with judokas and hand-to-hand fighting. The Soviet school rules!
        1. Yarbay
          +18
          April 16 2013 09: 06
          Quote: Fox
          Soviet school rules!

          I agree)))))))
          I remember in one western country we went into a fashionable gym, my comrade himself is a wonderful athlete, a repeated champion, having looked at the locker room and said in all the halls that the real champion wouldn’t grow up, I asked why you think so, he said there wasn’t sweat smell)))))))) )))
        2. Gari
          +9
          April 16 2013 09: 53
          Quote: Fox
          I myself was engaged in sambo and boxing. Sometimes and now I am mating with judokas and hand-to-hand fighting. The Soviet school rules!


          1005000 +++++ I agree
          That's what the boys need to do, and they will not only be physically strong, but morally and discipline will be at the level even though the Soviet sports school remained, though not the same as it was, but still
        3. s1н7т
          0
          April 16 2013 21: 36
          Quote: Fox
          I myself was engaged in sambo and boxing

          Essentially melee laughing
        4. rolik
          +3
          April 17 2013 22: 34
          Quote: Fox
          incorrect video

          against the passage of the leg, the oncoming knee kick in the face of the passing helps. After that, all his attention will be taken by his broken nose.
          1. +1
            9 June 2013 19: 01
            Have you tried to meet them at least once with your knee? Or have you seen someone succeed? I-no.
          2. +3
            21 June 2013 12: 59
            Is not a fact! A good wrestler flies into his legs like a bullet, it is very easy not to be in time. It is more effective to fall towards him, but from above and beat with an elbow on the back (in a fight in the spine). I couldn’t fight in the street in this vein, but for training it was possible for the wrestler to fall on his back, but to move away from the throw to the legs back or to the side ..
            And all this contactlessness ... well, maybe if she is 20 years old to deal with someone who is not a charlatan, who knows .. And in 99% of cases - a divorce of pure water.
            By the way, lotions in the style of Kadochnikov need to be mastered after you really practiced ordinary melee or combat sambo (or something like that) and clearly imagine what a REAL strike, capture or throw is - you felt their dynamics on yourself. And as sparring partners for practicing lotions it is necessary to take boxers, wrestlers, etc. and not otherwise
      2. PiP
        +1
        April 16 2013 21: 53
        The video shows respect to the guest. wink
    2. +4
      April 16 2013 08: 09
      Quote: Alex45
      If there is someone who came across Kadochnikov’s system, please comment, it seems that there is also a contactless direction.

      Faced. The system is terribly efficient. My 7 years of hand-to-hand fighting (judo, karate, boxing) - a dog under the tail, the maximum that I managed to - to break the distance, if I didn’t have time to do this, then ... all :))) This is against the guy who was engaged in Kadochnikov about one and a half years and no other types of martial arts did not do at all.
      The saddest thing for me began when I took up the "knife" - well, I rolled the newspaper into a tube ... From the first blow to my opponent in the stomach, I almost knocked out my eye ...
      As for non-contact - the same guy (an officer, several business trips to Chechnya) said that he saw with his own eyes how the sentry was being filmed. Those. A specialist in Kadochnikov came to them, showed them all sorts of tricks, and among other things, they put the volunteer in a corner, like at a post, and the hand-to-hand fighter "dropped" the volunteer into a swoon without contact.
      But I myself didn’t see this, and the guy ... well, let’s say, I could have joked.
      1. ramsi
        +22
        April 16 2013 08: 47
        as one guy jokes on our site: an old TT is better than judo and karate
        1. +8
          April 16 2013 08: 58
          Quote: ramsi
          better old TT than judo and karate

          It’s clear that it’s better ... but life is short, and spending a substantial part of it on an excursion to places not so distant for wearing (and even more so using) a firearm was somehow not hot :)
          1. +3
            April 18 2013 10: 49
            Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
            It’s clear that it’s better ... but life is short, and spending a substantial part of it on an excursion to places not so distant for wearing (and even more so using) a firearm was somehow not hot :)

            Stop, as far as I know the license for a short barrel implies the right to wear. Of course, I understand that our court is the most inadequate court in the world. BUT (!) Let's be realistic - the short barrel is the most affordable way to conduct contactless combat.
        2. avt
          +6
          April 16 2013 09: 48
          Quote: ramsi
          as one guy jokes on our site: an old TT is better than judo and karate
          This is if in rhyme laughing But in fact, yes, the best method of hand-to-hand combat is a shot in the stomach.
      2. +15
        April 16 2013 09: 04
        Arriving at the non-contact combat section, ask the trainer to move with an energy blow some physical object, chair, chair, and at least a pack of cigarettes, because if he delivers such "powerful" blows to people, such a task should be within his power, and then you will understand everything. Who will do this, please then write what excuses the coach will come up with.
        1. -1
          April 16 2013 09: 10
          You got a little contactless contact with telekinesis. And Kadochnikov worked with the KGB, so the irony here is inappropriate.
          1. +6
            April 16 2013 09: 34
            Quote: fzr1000
            You got a little contactless contact with telekinesis. And Kadochnikov worked with the KGB, so the irony here is inappropriate.

            look carefully at the videos, it’s the blows that are applied there, so there’s nothing to do with telekinesis, with any blow you can move some kind of object, and even more so with energy, the foundations of physics when applying ENERGY, movement is achieved.
            1. -1
              April 16 2013 09: 39
              Well, here you are and watch carefully the videos with Kadochnikov and with the special forces. I don’t see much point in arguing.
            2. Yarbay
              +4
              April 16 2013 09: 47
              Quote: stas52
              watch the videos carefully, it strikes

              You are inattentively watching a respected connoisseur)))
              Where 4 against two, how to strike at the extreme ???
              Sell ​​pure water)))
              I do not argue the actors are strong)))))))))
              1. +8
                April 16 2013 10: 01
                Yarbay
                I fully support you, swindle of pure water, and I’m talking about this. And as for the blows, look there it is the blows that are designated, although they are non-contact, so I have a question: is he blowing, what drives, energy or air? Well, no matter what he drives there, if he brings down men, then he will have to spit a pack of cigarettes once. The only negative is that you won’t agree with the pack.
                1. +10
                  April 16 2013 10: 11
                  But seriously, you can energetically influence only the internal organs, for example, the heart, but again there will be no beautiful flights of the victim and the designation of blows. If he is such an energy specialist, then the attackers should have fallen unconscious on the approach, without any body movements from the side of the specialist. And all this is reminiscent of the fantasy "Lord of the Elements".
                  1. -2
                    April 16 2013 10: 18
                    Are muscles, joints, ligaments internal organs?
                    1. +2
                      April 16 2013 10: 31
                      Read carefully:the attackers had to fall unconscious on the way, without any body movements from the specialist.
                      1. Yarbay
                        +2
                        April 16 2013 10: 37
                        Quote: stas52
                        : attackers had to fall unconscious on the way, without any body movements from the specialist.

                        I agree!
                        Witchcraft is also described by you!
                  2. +4
                    April 16 2013 10: 28
                    I’ll support my colleague, you can energetically influence the internal organs, but for this you need an energy conductor, arm or leg. Physics...
                2. Yarbay
                  +6
                  April 16 2013 10: 13
                  Quote: stas52
                  Well, no matter what he persecutes there, if he brings down men, then he will have to spit a pack of cigarettes just to spit. The only negative is that you will not agree with the pack.

                  Here I give up !!))
                  Totally agree with you!!
                  + + + +
            3. 0
              21 June 2013 13: 07
              Have you seen how they move ... well, let the box of matches with an energy blow? At least once?
        2. +1
          April 16 2013 11: 52
          What for? I don’t really believe in contactlessness. so I’d better ask him to show me :)
          1. Yarbay
            +2
            April 16 2013 12: 01
            Honestly, I didn’t quite understand you!
            That you write in support, you do not believe)))))
            Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
            Faced. The system is terribly efficient.

            Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
            What for? I don’t really believe in contactlessness. so I’d better ask him to show me :)

            where is the truth??)))
            1. +2
              April 16 2013 13: 43
              This I, it seems, expressed an unclear thought. Terrible efficiency - this is from the contact section of Kadochnikov :))) I just tried it on myself :)))) I only heard about contactless
              1. +1
                April 16 2013 21: 46
                Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
                Terrible efficiency is from the contact section of Kadochnikov :)))

                Sorry, namesake, but personally, I have a different experience of meeting a "kadochnikovist". The first second: a complete misunderstanding of what is happening and retreating instantly by three meters, until he rested against the wall with his back. Second: well, if there is nowhere to retreat, then the center of gravity is sharply downward with a hard force of the hands on the "middle line", a break in the defense, if simpler, and sharply "center" up and sharply in the jaw. All the "cars" and "penzets" for the opponent ended in a horizontal position on the floor and my coach laughing.
                I'm sorry. Just a personal experience.
                1. +1
                  April 16 2013 22: 59
                  Quote: Ziksura
                  Sorry, namesake, but personally, I have a different experience of meeting with "kadochnikovtsa"

                  What apologies are there? Everyone has his own experience. The guy I met was physically weaker and lighter than me, but the reaction was probably better, albeit uncritical. I was well prepared and I had no chance. I tried everything I knew, I had particular hopes for boxing. Did not help:)))
      3. broker
        +5
        April 16 2013 09: 22
        "non-contact" dropped the "volunteer in a swoon" is usually before this psychologically processed if a psycho. not pre-processed, you won't faint !!!
        SATANISM!!!
        1. +5
          April 16 2013 09: 32
          Yeah. Chur me, chur. Get out the SOTON.

          1. +8
            April 16 2013 10: 18
            Quote: fzr1000
            Yeah. Chur me, chur. Get out the SOTON.

            And you do not mind the logo in the upper right corner of the screen?
            1. 0
              April 16 2013 10: 20
              Filmed for internal use. This was later shown on TV. Or do you think this is a production specifically for Ren TV? Do you trust your eyes or just focus on logos?
              1. Yarbay
                +4
                April 16 2013 10: 25
                Quote: fzr1000
                Filmed for internal use. This was later shown on TV.

                Dear here last year, they lined up material revealing this video !!
                There * a foreigner * was also not an American, his separate video is))
                1. +1
                  April 16 2013 10: 29
                  Can't find the link again?
                  1. Yarbay
                    +1
                    April 16 2013 10: 40
                    Quote: fzr1000
                    Can't find the link again?

                    I'll try it !!
                    The professor definitely has or the pimpled one!
                    1. +2
                      April 16 2013 10: 50
                      Thank. I will be interested. If everything is justified there, then I admit my mistake.
                      1. Yarbay
                        +4
                        April 16 2013 11: 02
                        Quote: fzr1000
                        Thank. I will be interested. If everything is justified there, then I admit my mistake.


                        Look at the same RenTV!


                      2. +1
                        April 16 2013 11: 24
                        The video looked, but besides the fact that, according to the announcer Kadochnikov, he never commented on that famous plot, there is nothing about Kontochnikov’s contactless fight, nor about that special forces video.

                        As for the main essence, charlatans, unscrupulous imitators and scammers are everywhere enough.
                      3. Yarbay
                        +2
                        April 16 2013 11: 38
                        Quote: fzr1000
                        that according to the speaker Kadochnikov

                        this is another video!
                        There, pay attention to the student Kadochnikova!
                        and from the words of the announcer it is clear that he never managed to find * a specialist *!
                      4. +6
                        April 16 2013 11: 57
                        The disciple of Kadochnikov is a typical charlatan "attached" to the glory of the Teacher. Basically, I am not a fan or promoter of contactless combat. My fingers are knocked out and my nose is broken, so I'm one of the traditional, simple comrades.))
                      5. Yarbay
                        +4
                        April 16 2013 12: 10
                        Quote: fzr1000
                        beaten up and the nose is broken, so I'm from traditional, simple comrades.))

                        So your own)))
                      6. StolzSS
                        0
                        April 17 2013 02: 52
                        Small aikido speaks correctly. This is a pure dialogue between two energy structures of different people. I’ll only clarify that you can drop a person who is resisting, but the chance to get into the nose is very high. As for what Bronnikov is teaching, well, this is not applicable for combat, and indeed all non-contact techniques are a set of skills for expanding interaction with the world that are not applicable for combat training .....
                  2. -2
                    April 16 2013 12: 20
                    If I am not mistaken, this "American special forces soldier" is actually a Russian actor.
                    Here it is - second from the left.
                    1. 0
                      April 16 2013 20: 35
                      Look carefully, this is a completely different person.
                      1. +2
                        April 16 2013 21: 17
                        I think so too. The actor is scolded by Grigory Siyatvinda, plays in the Satyricon. But they sowed a grain of doubt here.
              2. +6
                April 16 2013 22: 21
                Quote: fzr1000
                Do you trust your eyes or just focus on logos?

                Only to the eyes. Is it so in "real life" they beat a bayonet? Does the attacker have diarrhea ??? You have no military experience? Or just forgot? Have a really resisting person overpowered in battle with adrenaline by rotating the magazine to pull out a machine gun? And what is the grip for the "pistol" grip? Even according to the canons of Kadochnikov-crap? Further. Boxing dive under the side and the opponent is guaranteed to fall? No. So why does the video lose balance by simply leaving? Further. Man is not a hard frame. The bending moment at the swivel joint is zero. Law of nature. Why is this effect? Where is that "physics"? Ballet with "levers". In real life, ONLY throws with an impact on the spine in the direction of its unnatural bend, or stupidly "knock" down. The speed of a boxing spurt is 4-6 beats per second. What are hand grabbing? An attempt to climb into the capture is a guaranteed rolling head over heels on the ground in an embrace with the enemy. What levers are there? Don't tell RSBI. Yes, and Spetsnaz.
                1. Yarbay
                  0
                  April 17 2013 13: 23
                  Quote: Ziksura
                  a resisting man re-loaded in an adrenaline battle rotating a magazine to tear out a magazine

                  By the way, if you noticed for some reason that the soldier was trying to hit * the special forces * with the store)))) I didn’t see such a technique, they didn’t teach)))))
                  That, too, probably special forces)))
                  1. 0
                    9 June 2013 19: 23
                    Quote: Yarbay
                    By the way, if you noticed for some reason that the soldier was trying to hit * the special forces * with the store)))) I didn’t see such a technique, they didn’t teach)))))

                    Ironically in vain. Strikes are struck with a bayonet, butt,shop.
          2. Alexan
            +1
            April 17 2013 23: 26
            But why did the guy in the beret obviously did everything so as not to hurt the brave instructor. In the gateway to them - everything would have become clearer ...
      4. s1н7т
        0
        April 16 2013 22: 32
        Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
        Faced. The system is terribly efficient.

        I also came across. RB is more efficient than the "Kadochnikov system". Or in Ekb. it is taught worse laughing
        1. +4
          April 16 2013 22: 50
          Well, Kadochnikov was enough for me :)) I didn’t give in, and the sparring was normal, the blows did not slow down, I just beat half-heartedly, albeit sharply ... But he just killed me. I could not do anything - although physically stronger and harder, and the guy’s reaction is not much better than mine. The movements seem to be elementary ... If my opponent would bring his actions to the end, I would not correspond with you now - there would be nothing :)))
      5. Hon
        0
        April 17 2013 09: 13
        Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
        This is against a guy who was engaged in Kadochnikov for about a year and a half and did not do any other martial arts at all

        Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
        The same guy (an officer, several business trips to Chechnya) said that he saw with his "own eyes" how the sentry was being filmed.

        What is it like?! That is, an officer, and if he took part in the liquidation of the sentry, then a scout, never engaged in martial arts? !!! Why even shoot the sentry with some kind of contactless battle systems in the presence of special means (BCC) ?!
        1. +1
          April 17 2013 09: 20
          Quote: Hon
          What is it like?! That is, an officer, and if he took part in the liquidation of the sentry, then a scout, never engaged in martial arts? !!!

          You are reading inattentively. I did not write anywhere that this officer was filming sentries. I wrote that, according to him, a specialist in the style of Kadochnikov came to them and demonstrated the possibility of contactlessness. Those. they are sitting in a cozy gym, a special person who arrives invites a volunteer from among the listeners, he becomes a corner, etc.
      6. 0
        15 May 2013 16: 47
        Yes. Kadochnikov’s system is very effective. And contactless battle is present in it. However, not only Kadochnikova. Almost all martial arts, having native Russian roots, are highly effective even if they are based on their own genetic memory, energy, psychology ... Whether it’s Kadochnikov’s system, Slavic-Goritsa or Russian fist fighting (St. Petersburg school of A. Gruntovsky), and many other areas and styles that have common Russian roots.

        Remember M.Yu. Lermontov: "The enemy experienced a lot that day, which means a daring Russian battle, our hand-to-hand combat!"

        It is a pity that we ourselves forget our roots ... Namely, they give what karate, aikido and so on cannot give a Russian person — a feeling of our roots! No one denies that any martial art is effective only with hard training. But in mastering Russian martial arts, at least we don’t have to break our psyche and make ourselves narrow-eyed oriental ninjas, because we have the consciousness that we have our own martial art, honed by centuries of fighting of our ancestors.

        And regarding contactless combat, this is reality. There are a lot of parasites on this topic, it's a fact. But this does not make Russian martial arts and contactless combat a myth. It's just that the pros who really own it, proceed from the principle "If you don't believe, you don't need to. Nobody is going to prove anything to anyone."

        Here is a small video in the subject. [media = http: // http: //smotri.com/video/view/? id = v5952947581 #]
    3. Fox
      +1
      April 16 2013 09: 05
      Quote: Alex45
      who faced the Kadochnikov system

      Kadochnikov came to us in the Internal Affairs Directorate in the 90s. Our 2X2 SOBR officer, like a newspaper was fooling around. Then they pinned a guy on me because his grandfather had broken him.
      1. 0
        April 16 2013 09: 15
        The most famous movie
        1. Yarbay
          +3
          April 16 2013 09: 29
          Quote: fzr1000
          The most famous movie

          joke)))))))))))
          1. +4
            April 16 2013 09: 34
            If you do not know how, then this does not mean that others do not. And you would not be at all funny if you were one on one.
            1. 0
              April 16 2013 22: 34
              Quote: fzr1000
              And you would not be at all funny if you were one on one.

              Yes, certainly not to be laughing. For it looks like a combat allowance for orderlies in a madhouse for the quietly insane. Who is attacking so? All the gopniks were like that. I would go in for badminton then. Not a broken nose. No knocked down fists. Not a bunch of other injuries. Kraaaaasota !!!!!!!
          2. +7
            April 16 2013 09: 38
            This is not an anode, this is art. And his place on the theatrical stage ...
            1. 0
              April 16 2013 09: 40
              Limited thinking is also a disaster. I repeat, if you cannot repeat this or do not understand how this is possible, this does not mean that it is impossible.
              1. Yarbay
                +2
                April 16 2013 09: 51
                Quote: fzr1000
                I repeat, if you cannot repeat this or do not understand how this is possible, this does not mean that it is impossible.

                Dear you yourself, it’s not funny when you try to convince us that this is super cool and that we do not understand anything?))
                I often read you and always with interest, I consider you a smart and decent person!
                1. +2
                  April 16 2013 10: 02
                  By the way, I don’t think that this is cool and this does not surprise me. Consider my attitude to our specialists as my weakness.
                2. +1
                  April 16 2013 10: 21
                  I forgot to say thanks for the kind words.
              2. +6
                April 16 2013 10: 39
                I am a materialist to the core, I proceed from practical life experience. If it would be so as we are shown, why then experts use firearms? In the same Dubrovka or Beslan. 10 people would go and rip off the terrorists' heads at a distance, they would not have time to utter a word. Why don't experts teach their art after retirement? Secrecy? So now there are practically no secrets. Why are there no contactless sportsmen? Someone would come out and contactlessly kicked Emelianenko. Champion right away ... And what the so-called "contactless sensei" teach is perfectly visible on the laid out videos. I agree that some elements of Kadochnikov's CONTACT System are based on real laws of physics, such a "Russian" aikido. I believe in this, and I think that such a single combat is extremely useful.
                1. 0
                  April 17 2013 00: 23
                  Quote: Parabelum
                  I am a materialist to the marrow of bones, I proceed from practical life experience.

                  It is a well-known fact that Fidel Castro has some of the best bodyguards in the world (including trained by our specialists). A fragile, inconspicuous girl, with a direct blow of her hand, pierces through a man dressed in a three-piece suit (anatomical mannequin) - although this will also never be shown. But still, from the point of view of a materialist - HOW?!?!
                  1. +2
                    April 17 2013 00: 39
                    Quote: olegff68
                    A well-known fact - with Fidel
                    And where can I find out about this well-known fact? Very interesting.
                    1. 0
                      April 18 2013 10: 38
                      [/ quote] And where can I find out about this well-known fact? Very interesting. [/ quote]
                      There is literature, but it is extremely rare. (Appeared in the 90s against the backdrop of the collapse of the KGB and permissiveness). By the way - Fidel Castro has not one of the best, but the best bodyguards (competent opinion of specialists from different countries)
                  2. 0
                    April 19 2013 14: 30
                    Also alas, this well-known fact is the first time I hear from you, I will be sincerely glad if you share information (a book or video), where it will be described in detail. In the meantime, from the point of view of the materialist, I do not believe.
                2. Oksana
                  0
                  19 June 2013 19: 43
                  some elements of Kadochnikov's CONTACT System are based on the real laws of physics, such as "Russian" aikido. I believe in this, and I think that such a single combat is extremely useful.
                  "Russian Aikido is a dance, just a dance of BUZA !!! (Dance of ordinary men, under serfdom, it was impossible to increase martial skills with a" smerdom "! Boyar-press-press! You will find so many! -All "martial arts" -Well, somehow clumsy!
                  Our dear! Kharlampiev (the idol of my husband), taking as a basis "Buza" and captures and throws, from the votok!
                  About - "contactless" Yes, I cannot firmly state !!! But, in reality, our body is a mini power station and a consumer! Each organism has its own frequency! And We All know that at a frequency of 7 to 12 hertz, from the complete remains of the heart - before "diarrhea"! So - can these "contactless", on their "ends", change the frequency ???
                  I am not an academician, just a "frequency band", to anyone - Waves!
                  With respect to EVERYTHING !!!
            2. Yarbay
              +2
              April 16 2013 09: 48
              Quote: Parabelum
              This is not an anode, this is art. And his place on the theatrical stage ...

              Maybe)))))))
    4. avt
      +3
      April 16 2013 09: 21
      Quote: Alex45
      The topic is interesting, and I want to know the opposite point of view. If there is someone who came across Kadochnikov’s system, please comment, it seems that there is also a contactless direction.

      Of course there is, I had a chance to meet a master of astral karate, but it turned out like Vysotsky did, ... but the conversation didn't work out to heart, the jackhammer interfered with us ... "And you can recommend the Star Wars series, which is very informative in terms of ,, feel the power. "If you look closely at the work of Kadochnikov, you will be convinced of the strength of Soviet education in terms of mechanics and all kinds of levers laughing But he is not the founder, Archimedes said that if he was given a foothold, he would turn the Earth upside down.
    5. Vashestambid
      +4
      April 16 2013 14: 47
      Contactless martial arts: another myth


      How dare the author doubts that Chuck Norris can put his opponent at a glance. I myself saw it ................

      Attention! You do not have permission to view hidden text.
    6. +11
      April 16 2013 19: 15
      I had a case when I knocked out an opponent with the power of my mind! A blow "from the head" to the bridge of the nose is a terrible force!
      1. +4
        April 17 2013 00: 43
        Quote: VashEstambid
        Chuck Norris can put his opponent at a glance. I saw it myself ................

        ....To the cinema!!
        And a drunken projectionist is able to "knock out" any Chuck Norris. I myself saw this not in the movies, but in life bully
    7. StolzSS
      0
      April 17 2013 02: 34
      Well, what can I say contactless techniques, first of all, are not suitable for combat training at all, and here Kochergin is absolutely right. The second moment, let’s separate the flies from the cutlets and honestly admit that killing a person with the help of contactless technology will not work well, except for the case when you upset his balance and he falls from the 10th floor. All that can be achieved by contactless technology is to upset the enemy or shift the perception a little, but then either your partner must shoot him or you must finish the enemy yourself with real weapons. After acting on another person, you will be torn hard and your head will ache, you will not be able to pass a normal physical norm, you will certainly not be able to shoot for a while. As for any gurus who teach, this is generally a scam because nobody will teach real things because the system will then punish the instructor much harder than any NKVD. These techniques are generally purely protective, although almost any healthy person can master them. Now, as for going out on the carpet against a special forces athlete. Tried it looked like he was standing 2 meters from me, I begin to pry him off to balance, he automatically takes a step and hit my face in the blood. The better the fighter worked out with blows, the more accurately his fist found me. The second series, he steps on me with the intention of striking here, I managed to dodge quite easily and sometimes even drop it, but the current he jumped quite quickly and mechanically flew at me .... From personal experience I can summarize the following by the power of thought of 2 specialists or athletes without TT you will not scatter in a hand.
    8. 0
      9 June 2013 19: 05
      Quote: Alex45
      If there is someone who came across Kadochnikov’s system, please comment, it seems that there is also a contactless direction.

      There is not a contactless crap, but the RB system. Quite difficult to learn, apparently. I didn’t come across it myself, but I saw how the guy was chopping up with 3 gopniks. I put them - "I myself!" - although my friend and I wanted to settle them.
  2. +3
    April 16 2013 08: 09
    every drunk in our country owns a contactless battle laughing
    1. avt
      +8
      April 16 2013 09: 24
      Quote: Bad
      every drunk in our country owns a contactless battle

      good Do not confuse contactless battle with the rapid departure to the astral plane. laughing
      1. +2
        April 16 2013 13: 14
        Well, YOU, imagine a homeless man coming up with an awesome hangover as he will give his amber what is contactless? wassat
  3. +4
    April 16 2013 08: 43
    Practice is the criterion of truth. Only viewers of the Battle of Psychics can believe in contactless combat. If you fold your fingers in a certain way, you can imagine that you have a pistol in your hand and say "Bang-bang!" demand that the enemy fall.
  4. +4
    April 16 2013 08: 47
    In the late 80s, we were so naive practicing kung fu, all sorts of katas, etc. .... it turned out to be a good gymnastics. But meows, draconian grimaces ... a circus.
  5. Rezun
    +2
    April 16 2013 09: 01
    "... the ministry of muses does not tolerate fuss ..."
    Contactless battle is not skill,but ability subjugate the enemy to his will. For this, it is necessary to surpass this opponent in terms of physical fitness, intellectual development, moral and moral education. The argument, of course, is weak, but it is the presence of a small number of "craftsmen" that testifies to the uniqueness of this art. And it is for the better, even simple weapons are dangerous to trust everyone.
    1. broker
      +2
      April 16 2013 09: 28
      All videos on the Internet about such fights are shown on their subordinates who are psychologically processed olgo !!!
      Once an NTV reporter interviewed such a "soldier" then told me to show him he refused !!! Because you must first hypnotize !!!
  6. +4
    April 16 2013 09: 29
    I remembered the uprising of the "boxers" in China. Then the Wu-shu fighters and the Qi-gong masters sincerely believed in their indestructibility. Only now, armed with rifles, the soldiers of the European armies drowned this uprising in blood. And the surviving "boxers" took up the criminal business and founded numerous "triads".
  7. +13
    April 16 2013 09: 31
    My opinion is simple and clear. ALL "contactless" martial arts is a lie and profanation... Conversations about energy, chakras, pumping of the information field are all better left for seminars of Reike and psychics. Even on the video of these "contactless" it can be seen that these are not athletes, but a bunch of adherents sitting and listening to the words of "sensei" about how he beat phantoms in the astral field. I immediately recall the words from the famous song of the fox Alice, "As long as there are fools in the world ...". In general, any "single combats" where there are no sparring fights, because of the alleged "lethality" of techniques, is bullshit and fraud.
    1. Yarbay
      +2
      April 16 2013 09: 52
      Quote: Parabelum
      My opinion is simple and clear. ALL "contactless" martial arts is a lie and profanation.

      That's right !!! ++++
      there is a video where like a cross all fell !!
      I'll try to find))
      1. Yarbay
        +3
        April 16 2013 10: 07
        found)))
        Serious guys)))





        I liked one koment there in the second video)))

        ** The basic rule of contactless combat is not to wash, do not brush your teeth, or wash your socks and underwear. Stick and success in this form ..... arts guaranteed! The enemy will be horrified at the very thought of fighting you! What kind of contacts are there ... You can check it out for yourself. Yes, it will not work right away, over time. But patience, gentlemen .... I myself saw how a seasoned contactless person, at rush hour, made an entire subway car shy away! **)))))))
        1. +1
          April 16 2013 10: 11
          And they have their own atmosphere there laughing
        2. +3
          April 16 2013 10: 25
          Well this is hack.
          1. Yarbay
            +1
            April 16 2013 10: 45
            Quote: fzr1000
            Well this is hack.

            Here is your normal reaction !!
            Just because there are no bewitching words of the KGB and special forces !!
          2. Yarbay
            +2
            April 16 2013 18: 52
            Quote: fzr1000
            Well this is hack.


            Here is Kadochnikov about contactless combat))))

            1. 0
              April 16 2013 23: 13
              Kadochnikov is very right in his answer. No need to teach what a particular person is not ready for.
              1. Yarbay
                0
                April 16 2013 23: 16
                Quote: Chukcha
                No need to learn that

                Then he does not talk about teaching professor)))))))))))
                And about to show))))
                However, like all such energy fighters))
                1. +2
                  April 16 2013 23: 21
                  To whom to show? On an unprepared person?
                  "crumble plates ... when you are not prepared ... people die ...". Do you even listen to what he says.
                  1. Yarbay
                    +1
                    April 16 2013 23: 32
                    Quote: Chukcha
                    . Do you even listen to what he says.

                    Nonsense, he says)))
                    Ordinary what say potentiates)))
        3. Ratibor12
          +6
          April 16 2013 14: 32
          Video - Better Zadornov concert! On one is Orthodox elven magic, on the second is a waltz in a madhouse (in the background are the sad relatives of the sick).
          The best examples of contactless combat: Vasily Zaitsev with his rifle and the Voevoda ICBM in the mine!
        4. +3
          April 16 2013 19: 24
          "This is what the life-giving cross does"
          Ioan the Terrible. C / f "Ivan Vasilievich changes his profession"
        5. rolik
          +1
          April 17 2013 22: 27
          Quote: Yarbay
          Itself saw how one seasoned contactless person, at rush hour, made the whole wagon shy away

          More like a thriller where they fight with zombies, especially in the second plot. And the first plot is a guide to fight vampires. It was necessary to hang a drop of garlic on the neck, the effect would be even more slaughter.
    2. 0
      23 October 2013 16: 15
      Better not tell.
  8. 0
    April 16 2013 09: 41
    Hello everyone! Here in the article is a video where one uncle drops Sensei, but there is also a video about the joint training of Russian specialists and American, where ours demonstrated a contactless battle, the American special forces commander doubted, and then bent over in pain.
    1. +1
      April 16 2013 09: 49
      I uploaded this video above, but then everyone decided that ours had mesmerized the amer, and then bribed it for fidelity. Well, this does not happen and that's it.
      1. +6
        April 16 2013 14: 24
        Quote: fzr1000
        I uploaded this video above, but then everyone decided that ours had mesmerized the amer, and then bribed it for fidelity. Well, this does not happen and that's it.

        You have no reason to take my word for it, and I'm too lazy to look, but this video was completely exposed more than once. This very "special forces commander" was found, who, if I am not mistaken, at that time was a student at the Peoples' Friendship Institute, and at the same time was moonlighting as an "actor", even flashed in some TV series.
        Z.Y
        There are people who consider all these magical things dangerous, like this, after learning from a sansei who owns a secret fighting style, someone rushes at the robber with a knife in the hope of "suppressing his will" and we all know how it ends. These are the people who are engaged in bringing Kadochnikov, Lyubka, Starov and others to clean water.
        That's who I totally agree with, especially about the knife
        1. Yarbay
          +6
          April 16 2013 14: 53
          Quote: Rumata
          That's who I totally agree with

          All right says!
          He said especially precisely about the blows that one should not stop starting to hit until the enemy falls !!
          And rightly so, about believing in yourself, you don’t have to be an athlete to fill up the enemy!
        2. +1
          April 16 2013 20: 04
          Well, Baduk is my idol! And what he just said is street fighting instruction! But it has nothing to do with "contactless"!
        3. +1
          April 16 2013 21: 10
          I believe. "I was wrong. I flared up."
    2. Yarbay
      +1
      April 16 2013 13: 06
      Quote: evgenii67
      where ours demonstrated a contactless battle, the American special forces commander doubted, and then bent over in pain.

      this is a production !!
      * American * -Side!
  9. 12061973
    +2
    April 16 2013 09: 51
    look at the u-tuba video of the fight of cadrers against Hasikov, laugh.
    1. +1
      April 16 2013 09: 56
      This is all fake and installation, and Kadochnikov is a charlatan and a fraudster. Even the KGB was mesmerized. wink Those here see everything through and through. X-rays.
      1. Yarbay
        +1
        April 16 2013 10: 18
        Quote: fzr1000
        Even the KGB mesmerized everything

        Perhaps they tried to amer Amers so that they tried to create the same and lost years))))
        What type did they do with us on SDI)))
        1. +1
          April 16 2013 10: 23
          Yeah nuuu ... this is how it really looks like a child. "For everyone to tremble, to be respected."
  10. Genera
    +3
    April 16 2013 10: 23
    Do not interpret contactless combat correctly - this is not a superpower of a Jedi or telekinesis. Everything is much simpler. I'll try to explain. For example: sparing object "A" (owns contactless technique), object "B" (opponent), when performing vol. "B" hit naturally the view changes (looking direction), vol. "A" already knows its viewing angle perfectly and makes a movement in this radius. The brain of ob. "B" unconsciously notices this and the instinct of self-preservation is triggered and the body itself tries to escape from the oncoming movement of the ob. "a" and being in an uncomfortable position loses balance. Chip in motion vol. "a" is the correct angle of a failed attack. Verified.
  11. Genera
    0
    April 16 2013 10: 46
    Forgot to add. If about. "b" is blind and does not see the movements of ob. "a" then the correct angle of a failed attack is modernized into a valid one.
    1. +1
      April 16 2013 13: 16
      Roughly speaking - the technique of slopes, waste and dives?
  12. +2
    April 16 2013 11: 47
    http://forum.budokaikan.ru/index.php?topic=1659.0

    A good overview of one of the "contactless"

    Contactless combat system ... The flame of a candle and matches with cards will be put out by any normal contact contact athlete / knocker over without touching, but the fist or leg should be as close as possible to the target.

    Everything else contactless is complete nonsense. Only Tibetan lamas, Shaolin and others can, because they are not filmed on mobile cameras.
    1. +1
      April 16 2013 12: 07
      Looked at the link. Sorry...
    2. 0
      April 16 2013 13: 51
      Quote: Lapotnik
      The flame of a candle and matches with cards will be put out by any normal contact contact athlete / knocker over without touching, but the fist or leg should be as close as possible to the object of impact.

      Have you tried to do what you are writing about? There is such an old exercise in wushu - extinguishing the flame of a candle with a blow of the hand. Moreover, the trick is that a person gradually moves away from the candle. And the flame still extinguishes, moreover, it is good if also with a light cotton. It is believed that the masters extinguished the candle light from several meters. This technique is described in one of the magazines "Technics-Youth" somewhere in the 90s. And it really works Well, in general, in the eastern martial arts, the blow does not strike the surface, the epicenter of it (the blow) is at a depth of about 10 centimeters. It seems like there is a small bruise on the surface, and the furnace is broken ... But this cannot be attributed to non-contact impact.
  13. 0
    April 16 2013 12: 18
    I found it ...

    Reliable can be considered evidence of the ability to hit the enemy, without making contact, the creator of modern judo Jigaro Kano, as well as Sun Lutan (Sun Fuquan) - one of the greatest masters in the history of Chinese Wushu. There are several reasons to trust these masters. Firstly, they devoted their life to the comprehension of martial arts. Secondly, they all focused on the development and management of internal energy. Thirdly, each of them held real fights in life, not for life, but for death.
    1. Yarbay
      +3
      April 16 2013 12: 38
      Quote: fzr1000
      Reliable can be considered evidence of the ability to hit the enemy, without getting into contact

      Hit-the-keyword!
      I saw a man who unimaginably broke a glass of water, being far from him in handcuffs !!
      He was not an athlete, he was a clergyman, not a monk!
      1. +1
        April 16 2013 12: 43
        Still, most likely it was meant to win. In short, as Vysotsky sang - "the unknown is nearby, but it is forbidden." Perhaps it's time to close the discussion.
  14. +1
    April 16 2013 12: 20
    Better there is no karate than my old TT. (c) Hypnosis I can understand, there is no contactless battle.
  15. 0
    April 16 2013 12: 36
    Quote: Parabelum
    I am a materialist to the core, I proceed from practical life experience. If it would be so as we are shown, why then experts use firearms? In the same Dubrovka or Beslan. 10 people would go and rip off the terrorists' heads at a distance, they would not have time to utter a word. Why don't experts teach their art after retirement? Secrecy? So now there are practically no secrets. Why are there no contactless sportsmen? Someone would come out and contactlessly kicked Emelianenko. Champion right away ... And what the so-called "contactless sensei" teach is perfectly visible on the laid out videos. I agree that some elements of Kadochnikov's CONTACT System are based on real laws of physics, such a "Russian" aikido. I believe in this, and I think that such a single combat is extremely useful.

    In the Middle Ages, there were also materialists to the marrow of bones, and they burned scientists at the stake laughing
    1. +2
      April 16 2013 13: 26
      laughing not materialists, but ... how to call them ideological theocrats =)))), the Inquisition like them. And they burned those who explained everything by the laws of physics ... i.e. materialists .. =))) you know ...
      1. Yarbay
        +2
        April 16 2013 13: 46
        Quote: Parabelum
        not materialists


        burned by the way terrible materialists))))
        but it was necessary to re-educate in the camps)))
  16. 0
    April 16 2013 12: 40
    Contactless battle is the ability to act on an adversary without touching him.
    If you type in Google a search for the phrase "contactless battle", you can get at least a couple of thousand results. More than half will assure you that this technique is available to them, and others that having paid a certain amount of money will be available to you. And all this power in just a couple of dozen classes. Is it so?
    Let's see which of the famous masters demonstrated contactless battle. Perhaps the most famous of the masters is O-Sensei (Morihei Ueshiba) - the creator of Aikido.
    Indeed, there are shots where he demonstrates contactless combat, but firstly, you should pay attention that he demonstrates this already at an advanced age, having studied for about 40 years of ju-jutsu (柔 術) and ken-jutsu (剣 術), as well as being master of Daito-ryu Aiki-jujutsu. It is also reliably known that Morihei Ueshiba practiced the misogi ritual - cleansing the body and spirit under a cold mountain waterfall that falls right on the top of the head.

    Another martial artist who demonstrates contactless combat is Gerard Blaise.

    Demonstrates truly outstanding contactless combat skills. How did he learn this? At the age of 17, he began practicing judo and aikido in France, then he left for Japan and studied for five years with a tail at the Kombomu Ueshiba and Seigo Yamaguchi at the Hombu Dojo in Tokyo. Then he began to study with Michio Hititsuchi. As a result, in 1996 received the 7th dan of Aikido. It also has the 7th Dan of Shindou Muso-ryu Joujutsu, the 5th dan of Masakatsu Bojutsu. The total experience in martial arts is approximately 48 years.

    Of course, I know about the allergy of site visitors to this program, but here in the plot there are both of the above characters

    1. Yarbay
      +1
      April 16 2013 14: 05
      Quote: fzr1000
      Another martial artist who demonstrates contactless combat is Gerard Blaise.

      I put a video explaining * tricks * Blaise and Aikidoists !!))
      1. +1
        April 16 2013 15: 50
        But the topic is revealed.
  17. +1
    April 16 2013 12: 44
    People will be able to believe in contactlessness, only if it was distributed at the level of karate schools (mass), as was the case in the Union, everyone knew that there were invincible karateists somewhere, when it became mass, it became clear that the same boxing was more effective somewhere angry
  18. +1
    April 16 2013 13: 25
    1) And why are there no masters - contactless representatives of judo, sambo, boxing, savata, taekwondo, muaythaya, sumo, etc.?
    2) Why are there no magic pills that cure all or most of the diseases?
    3) And where is finally the philosopher's stone?
  19. +1
    April 16 2013 13: 40
    Add a video for discussion:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=to0F70bRVWY
    http://www.budo-forums.ru/topic/24348-beskontaktnyj-boj-vadim-starov-protiv-boks
    era /
    And finally lol
    http://tomsk.fm/watch/246099
    The last video is very revealing. bully
    1. Yarbay
      +2
      April 16 2013 13: 58
      Quote: ImPerts
      Add a video for discussion:
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=to0F70bRVWY
      http://www.budo-forums.ru/topic/24348-beskontaktnyj-boj-vadim-starov-protiv-boks

      era /
      And finally lol
      http://tomsk.fm/watch/246099
      The last video is very revealing. bully

      Pay attention to all these * masters * choose * victims * those who are two or three times smaller and constant contact)))))
      in the latter case, the master * breathing * was already setting, running became harder and another 10-20 seconds and the kickboxer would break it !!))
  20. +2
    April 16 2013 14: 29
    Here is a fun little article, though the button accordion-babayan
    Part one
    http://hueviebin1.livejournal.com/43869.html
    part two
    http://hueviebin1.livejournal.com/59688.html
  21. +1
    April 16 2013 14: 52
    And then the top 10 of various gurus:
    http://felbert.livejournal.com/1723955.html
  22. 0
    April 16 2013 15: 08
    how complicated it is!
    1. 0
      April 16 2013 15: 24
      Just like in an RPG: classes and skills wassat
  23. +2
    April 16 2013 15: 44
    What is being advertised, displayed and sold is bullshit. This was explained to me by a real energy fighter. The meaning is completely different. We worked a little with him in sparing and he chewed on my fingers what was done and why. It makes sense for the probable aggressor to have no desire Something he did there, no passes or the like, but I missed a lot. The state was like a drunk. As he told me this state is the maximum that can be achieved without contact. And if it comes to a fight, the passes cannot be separated, they will score fuck. Yes, and they can take control of it in their pure form. As he told me, it’s easier to master point strikes. The effect is more obvious, he poked me somewhere in the thigh with his thumb. Few legs were paralyzed, so I don’t have a lot of kimono ..s..al. In general, do not waste talking specially for this time. You will study the BI as expected, it will come if there are makings to it.
    1. Yarbay
      +3
      April 16 2013 15: 55
      Quote: shinobi
      .This was explained to me by a real fighter power engineer.


      Another inadequate)))))))
    2. +4
      April 16 2013 16: 36
      Quote: shinobi
      What is advertised, displayed and sold is bullshit. This was explained to me by a real energy engineer fighter.

      It costs only one time, a real energy. invite reporters, and show what he can do on someone from the crew and he is a millionaire. There will be no end to those who wish, dozens of schools, thousands of students. Why isn't this happening? Why are there hundreds of videos of acrobatic stunts on the Internet on their students and not a single one on someone else. But there are enough reports where journalists come to the coach and offer to demonstrate on them, and get excuses ranging from "I can kill you" and ending with "secret Calm, you cannot divulge secrets"!
      This is not the Higgs Boson, to prove that you are right is very easy, to get worldwide fame too
      Z.Y
      non-contact battle, test from Alexander Litvinenko, 2009.
      Alexander Litvinenko was invited to take part in a contactless combat seminar. And he decided to test the system in practice. The task was as follows: Alexander had to deliver a simulating blow towards the enemy, the enemy promised to demonstrate a contactless battle system and prevent Alexander from carrying out a blow in his direction .But in response, Alexander received a slap in the face. Apparently this was precisely the mastery of that contactless battle. What happened next, you see for yourself ...

      1. Yarbay
        +3
        April 16 2013 17: 07
        Quote: Rumata
        You see yourself ..

        Well done Sanya))))))))))
        Such asshole is the way to go)))))))))))
      2. Nikolai N
        0
        April 21 2013 01: 59
        Thanks for the video. Neighing from the heart laughing Downloaded, show friends let the same have fun
  24. Kostya pedestrian
    0
    April 16 2013 16: 33
    Without contact, you can only take on a fright, and thus win without a fight. What requires skill and certain knowledge and training.

    Either Svarog or Darth Vader can bring down such cabinets with the wind, even Sigalu cannot do it.

    Although knowledge of the laws of physics, mechanics and anatomy in trained hands can work wonders.
  25. +5
    April 16 2013 16: 39
    If they ask me harshly in Tsy-Hun, they say how about you ... on the head energetically, or without bothering with a boot in the balls ???, I won’t bother much. lol
    1. Yarbay
      +3
      April 16 2013 17: 08
      Quote: Chen
      If they ask me harshly in Tsy-Hun, they say how about you ... on the head energetically, or without bothering with a boot in the balls ???, I won’t bother much.


      killed)))))))))))))))))))))
      1. +2
        April 16 2013 19: 56
        ... I'm worried myself .... feel
  26. 0
    April 16 2013 17: 11
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKPrGxB1Kzc

    prototype of contactless battle :)
  27. SIT
    +4
    April 16 2013 17: 37
    In general, of course, the opposition of contact and non-contact combat is strange because the concept of contactless combat is absurd by definition. If a person has advanced in Tao so much that he can control qi freely and at such a speed, he should not find himself in a situation where it is necessary to conduct such a battle with dropping and overturning the opponent. On the other hand, it is possible to master energy techniques without working out the physical body only as a slow health-improving gymnastics, because in the case of attempts to accelerate the flows, the unprepared body will give out such sores that it is better to let them immediately kill. The existence of acupuncture points and so-called meridians in the human body is no longer considered a miracle. So let's just say the physical conductors of these channels are the ligaments, and therefore the most problematic places are the joints. If the ligaments and joints are not maintained in good shape, then congestion and dams will form there, the result of which will be sores of the organs attached to this meridian. In general, all stretch marks, twines and other twists into the boat knot in wushu and yoga are used specifically to develop ligaments and joints as conductors of qi or prana. The ability to kick a star in the head is a pleasant side effect of developing the vicinity of the death gate, where the lower junction of the upper and posterior meridians is located. It's just that someone (as the epic claims it was Bodhidharma) in hoary antiquity noticed that martial arts work out the whole body very well in a complex and especially force it to naturally combine with breathing, which is very important in energy practices. And here is such an incentive - if you do not connect correctly with breathing, they will beat you to hell. This is how one of the directions of Zen Buddhism was born - Budo. So, without having passed the entire path of body development, it is impossible to move on to complex energy practices. One is very tightly connected to the other. From the beginning of the training, just count one physical training and as it develops, energy practices are added to it. Maybe very few have such a stage that the acquired physical form is supported by purely internal energy. In the internet there is a photo of the patriarch, who, at 74, makes a stand on 2 fingers, and the student only holds his legs up from his side. But this life must be put on it. As the combat training of any units, even though special, though not very, such practices are absurd. They simply do not have enough time and energy. And the patriarchs, if there are any on our planet, will simply not think of the combat use of their internal capabilities, because the goal of their development is completely different. And purely from the point of view of the law of conservation of energy, it is much less energy-consuming and safe to counter a person through physical contact than with the help of internal energy. In the subtle world, after all, no one has canceled the general laws of the universe. What you send there will come back later. That's just what exactly and when exactly is not known. Therefore, it is better not to go where you do not know.
  28. +5
    April 16 2013 17: 55
    Here is also a contactless battle, but the implementation is better =)
    Starov v. Kadochnikov, a secret shoot from the recently declassified archives of the GRU.
  29. +3
    April 16 2013 19: 00
    Of course, there are contactless techniques and of course, they work. And it is also absolutely true that all, all and all of the schools that promise them are fraud. In vain Grandfather (I mean Kadochnikova) personally promised his students his skill.
    The athlete can not show anything like this, this is first. Let him train for at least fifty years ... the way of understanding the world is not the same. Secondly, decades of persistent efforts to improve the body and spirit give this skill as part of the technique of life ... but it is one of the most useless. A rubber circus can connect your elbows behind your back. But why is this? At the warm-up, perhaps ... Masters do not fight, for the simple reason that they cannot be in a fight situation. In a fight with an equal, this will not work.
    And there are no ways to learn "secret techniques of contactless combat" after walking for six months or a year. However, attempts to explain this simple thing to lovers of secrets are usually doomed. Somehow it worked for me (this is rare, but ...) such an explanation - try to crush a penny in your fist (it was back in the USSR). Do you think there are some super secrets that will allow you to do this WITHOUT power? That's it. Gain power - you can crush the nickels. But you won't - why spoil the money?
    But Sensei's business will continue to flourish. Because what are the seekers looking for secret techniques, indescribable knowledge and Zen for free? They are looking for an opportunity. A sacred opportunity for them to rise above everyone WITHOUT LABOR AND EFFORT. So, I was like a dozen workouts without straining and with the help of secrets inaccessible to mediocrity ... Well, well. Seek and you will find, and it will be given to you ... on the neck ...
  30. 0
    April 16 2013 20: 08
    Quote: evgenii67
    Hello everyone! Here in the article is a video where one uncle drops Sensei, but there is also a video about the joint training of Russian specialists and American, where ours demonstrated a contactless battle, the American special forces commander doubted, and then bent over in pain.

    Summary of the previous series:
  31. +2
    April 16 2013 20: 24
    The most non-contact of martial arts is averted! This art must be learned !!!
  32. 0
    April 16 2013 21: 57
    I wonder why no one remembered Hancock. Here is a real contactless battle! wink really cool man bully
  33. s1н7т
    +2
    April 17 2013 00: 36
    I was too lazy to read all the comments. "Contactless combat" is an echo of the 80s, when people began to be massively interested in internal styles without going into the essence. They even managed to misrepresent the meaning of the phrase "The best fight is the one that did not take place" - like, he won without a fight. Scammers successfully play on the people's desire to win without a fight. So there are such "schools" as toadstools in the garbage laughing
    Hoping for hypnosis (which not everyone is capable of yet) is stupid - I, for one, am unstable laughing Chuhnya all this! Engage in sweat, do not bother yourself with nonsense, and all will be happy! laughing
    Colleagues in Belarus - physical education hello! drinks
  34. architipai
    0
    April 17 2013 03: 41
    He practiced Karate Fudokan for 10 years, participated in competitions
    What kind of contactless battle is there - it's just a bike, even most of the karate and wushu techniques are the same bike - well, who uses kibadachi or kata in battle? Just exotic packaging all for a better sale
    1. s1н7т
      +1
      April 17 2013 21: 27
      Colleague, for 10 years you could understand why all these kata are needed, don’t you? laughing
      1. architipai
        0
        April 18 2013 12: 20
        That's why I stopped doing this - switched to ordinary physical education)
        1. s1н7т
          0
          April 18 2013 20: 39
          No luck with the trainer / instructor.
  35. +1
    April 17 2013 04: 06
    The opinion that the occupation of Belarus will make a person invincible is nonsense. A non-contact RB-delirium squared. Throughout my life, I was convinced of only one thing: if a person is a hunter, in fact, he is more likely to win the fight, even if he is a street brawler, and who is psychologically a victim, he is often trained to lose. Obviously, with the help of training, the victims want to transform into hunters, but it seems to me that this is just not so simple, but most likely almost impossible, then only the TT will save. There really is a technique, but it’s very troublesome, some people use it, but it’s not for us. Let it sound cynical and still somehow not nice, but only knowing how to kill does a person turn into a hunter, think, remember, maybe someone will remember something. The theory in this matter is completely inferior to practice. And they talk about contactlessness, but any abrek who is skilled at killing will flood this sensei with a knife and a stone or teeth. I apologize in advance if my koment seems unpleasant or primitively wild to someone.
    1. s1н7т
      +1
      April 17 2013 21: 30
      It is wild, of course, but not minus, for there is some truth.
  36. +1
    April 17 2013 09: 33
    How many comments ?! I will ask the adherents of contactless combat. Kadochnikov (allegedly) worked for the KGB, and hence for its successors. The best of the best should be in the protection of the president. Why in Hannover, when the "vociferous" Ukrainian girls decided to demonstrate their capabilities, the brave guards did not use secret techniques and forced the "women" to lie down or fall on the floor and calmly carry them away? Instead, they had to be caught and (indignantly) openly pawed on their exposed body parts? This could be used by provocateurs and accuse the brave security guards of sexism and harassment? Or worse? Why didn't you use it? Or did the FSO spare money for seminars with training?
    1. s1н7т
      0
      April 17 2013 21: 33
      Quote: ImPerts
      Why didn’t you use it?

      Gee! Because there is nothing laughing
  37. +1
    April 18 2013 00: 39
    In the early 90s I had a very interesting book of one martial artist. He was engaged in traveling around the world in search of craftsmen to gain experience. Moreover, he described the technique that he offered to each master to determine the level. Then he made a decision about whether he should stay with the master or not. Among other things, the author described several masters who had an extremely high degree of psychological impact on the enemy. For example, he agreed with one such master that he will attack him only when he hears a cry - the beginning of the battle. So what? He himself describes that he stood for a long time and waited "when they will shout", but did not hear anything. Only later was he told that the "enemy" was shouting very loudly and clearly.
    That's how it happens.
    Cases and masters have been described a lot. He said that one master could take katana blows to certain parts of the body without damage. In battle, this was not applicable, since some preparation was required, and the area of ​​the body was certain. Another master, striking anywhere in the body, always hit the groin ...
    Funny knizhentsiya, sorry lost.
  38. Nikolai N
    0
    April 18 2013 01: 12
    Funny book
    Indeed, and how the classic of the genre got lost laughing And also these -
    one master
    another master winked . Surnames, first names, patronymic, time of the event, witnesses?
    1. s1н7т
      +1
      April 18 2013 20: 56
      I had a book on RB PLA. The author is like the chief instructor of the PLA. The first photo in it is an author at the age of about 70 who performs a stand on the thumb. Name I don’t remember, of course, but my grandfather was cool!)
  39. erg
    +1
    April 18 2013 09: 21
    Enough knowledge within the school physics course to understand that non-contact martial arts is another bullshit. And forget about all the mystical energies there, with the help of which the enemy is defeated, this is also nonsense.
    1. s1н7т
      0
      April 18 2013 21: 07
      Mystical energies are certainly nonsense. But here is the passing result of regular classes - you lay your back on the large fragments of a broken bottle, a friend stands up on your chest, glass crunches under your back ... Then you have to pull out other fragments from the back, which entered deeply. But - not a drop of blood! No cuts!
      1. Nikolai N
        0
        April 19 2013 13: 46
        And why is this skill?
      2. erg
        0
        April 19 2013 17: 19
        It surprises you, then take textbooks on human physiology and anatomy, or other scientific literature in this area. I am sure you will learn a lot about the capabilities of the human body. Moreover, characteristic of all people, and not just units. For example, about the real strength of muscles, elasticity of the skin, etc. The thing is that in a modern urban man, pampered by civilization, the body is significantly weakened. At the same time, living in harsh, harsh natural conditions, but in the absence of hunger or long periods of starvation, the body's capabilities are much higher. And the effect that you described is possible without any training. In past centuries, the inhabitants of Siberia, as well as the inhabitants of the North Pomors, surprised with their unusual strength, endurance. Bending a horseshoe, eating a copper nickel, fighting one with a polar bear, traveling long distances, surviving in winter on islands in the northern seas was not surprising. Back in the 19th century, the hunting tribes in Africa surprised Europeans, for example, by the fact that among them there were not a few hunters who could argue over short distances in running with a horse. Or go through naked through the thickets of thorns and not get a single scratch, just the skin hardened under the African sun acquired its inherent elasticity and smoothness.
        1. Nikolai N
          0
          April 19 2013 22: 31
          The native inhabitants of the north rarely reached 50. In one without a weapon on a polar bear? belay
          1. erg
            0
            April 21 2013 02: 15
            Firstly, not without weapons, with melee weapons. Secondly, I meant primarily the Pomors, and not the indigenous people. Thirdly, read carefully, in the absence of long periods of fasting. In wild peoples, such periods were the norm, but Pomors, like immigrants from more civilized places, had a developed economy, engaged in agriculture, fishing, and trade. Plus the lack of a fortification system in that region. Finally, the numerous settlements of the Old Believers (as in Siberia), who did not drink alcohol and tobacco and were successfully engaged in trade. By the 19th century, there were many rich Old Believer villages in the north. Thirdly, life expectancy depends not only on the environment and I would not talk about all the indigenous people.
  40. bazillius
    0
    16 May 2013 21: 06
    Despite the disagreement with the author of the article, I want to say that the topic addressed in it is important and relevant.
    I'll start with a simple one: remember the end of the 80s and the beginning of the 90s - how many schools, sections, trainers appeared with the advent of Gorbi. Then another became fashionable, then a third. Today, there is a hypothetical opportunity to learn almost any martial style (although everyone wants to engage in martial arts). You can’t lure people into the halls.
    But, here's where the information slipped that there was a contactless battle. And, now imagine a modern "Pale youth" living in the city, and participates in fights only on the computer. Duck, this is just a gold mine, the main thing is to work it out beautifully. And then you can raise your self-esteem for a fee.
    But, there is still non-contact, and this is not a specific style or school: this is the level of development of a martial art master. Therefore, the proposal to train contactless athletes, excuse me incorrectly. I’ll try to give an example, there is surgery - duck, why not train surgeon athletes, and the main criterion is the time of the operation, and not its quality and consequences.
    I will give an example from my own practice: 4 people came to study. I’m interested in what they want to do, whether they understand what it is. About 3-4 minutes later, one young man seriously asks: Ah, after a year we will be able to throw fireballs from our body into the enemy. He didn’t laugh at that time, but smiled, and explained to the guys that I definitely couldn’t and couldn’t point out even in the history of the person who did this. We spent two and a half years, now we have left for the army, ALREADY is adequate.
    And the basis is still the same: boxing, sambo. And only so!
  41. ISO
    ISO
    0
    5 June 2013 17: 11
    In such an ephemeral and fashionable direction, so that scammers do not happen in megalopolises to the full extent.
    For myself, I proved that there should be real masters. I do not practice energy strikes myself, since firstly, I consider it dangerous not so much for the "victim" as for myself to play on this field with a poorly developed theory among humanity. But at one time in training he had fun by adjusting basketball throws on the ring, one hundred percent influence on the game could not be exerted, but “Own” players had more hits, and rivals smeared more.
  42. 0
    5 August 2013 20: 07
    They talked about materialism here. Following it, no energy other than those described in a physics textbook does not exist (electro-magnetic, mechanical, etc.). Those. all kinds of "energy strikes" by definition nonsense (lightning did not understand or something wassat ) What matters is only the functionality and skills of a particular person. The only non-contact effect, as on the information system, on a person can be produced only by information (looks like hypnosis, actions on instincts past consciousness). As a combat use, I think it is unlikely, although it is not excluded. In principle, it can be associated with the level of emotional development.
  43. Maxorka
    0
    20 September 2013 21: 34
    Thanks! An interesting article, a video too, but honestly speaking, there are doubts about contactless combat. The Star Wars movie is more convincing in this regard - may the force be with you. )))
  44. Nok
    Nok
    0
    24 October 2013 10: 19

    contactless combat is harmful.
  45. mn-night
    0
    1 March 2014 09: 57
    Welcome all!!!! Please comment on the video, it’s very interesting to know the opinion of those present.Yes, I completely forgot, on the video in which demonstration receptions for "Western" specialists are held the same person. On this video, the captain's shoulder straps are not very distinguishable. The quality of the material is so-so, only the age of this video comes to mind, and the antiquity of the "pickup" equipment. With him, by the way, there are quite a lot of motley videos, there is even an interview on the topic. But this is for your judgment, gentlemen.
  46. vk65
    0
    April 12 2014 00: 10
    Welcome all!!!! Please comment on the video, it’s very interesting to know the opinion of those present.
    I comment.
    This is the Kadochnikov school. Half of the technical actions are effective but meaningless from the point of view of a real battle. Without a properly "built" body, you will not do these things. When we in our group dug all this husk and came to the conclusion that in a real battle you will simply be killed if you follow the proposed the authors of the methodology. For example - at all window dressings there is not a single real closet that would fall from the influence of the instructor - everywhere there are only slender women. And if the closet is 2 x 2? And if the enemy is armed with two knives? Zachm these show-off with twisting the arm with a knife? Personally, I (about 20 years of work experience with melee weapons) will never let an instructor into my "capture zone" - I will cut him on the approach. And they simply have no chance against two knives. Another question is why they poke around and escort a soldier by thrusting a machine gun into him behind your back? It's easier to disconnect, tie in a proven way, etc. I was especially touched by Kadochnikov's stories (they are not in this video) about how to intercept a checker strike with the palms. I would like to look at the speed of the fight against a razor-sharp checker.
    By the way - "Russian style" was brought from China in about the 50s. A group of KGB officers was sent there to study a more effective technique than sambo. This is the so-called. internal Chinese styles. The brightest living master today is Yao Chen Rong (see fighter channel, interviews). The whole secret lies in the correct positioning of the body and the spine as an engine. In the body, from point A to point B, all parts of the body must come at the same time (in ordinary sleeping people this happens in parts). Hence all the falls, etc.
    Kadochnikov personally does everything himself correctly (if only to remove the show-offs and work for a commercial show-off) but he explains nonsense to his students.
    If you built your body correctly and gained motor skills, then in a real battle it’s enough to use about 10 technical actions-principles (not tricks). A real battle is short-lived, cruel and ugly from the point of view of the audience. If you did not demolish the enemy in the first three or four actions, you Khan.
    Also, the instructor doesn’t complete the combination correctly on this video demonstration - throwing the opponent on the floor, he kicks him lazily (and Kadochnikov himself sins this), as if he was already dead. Now, if you don’t have enough motor skills to completely finish off the enemy in a lying position (the action should go automatically), believe me - you will never have time to do this in a real battle on adrenaline - your brain will be occupied by a completely different one.
  47. vk65
    +1
    April 12 2014 00: 25
    I’ll add more on the topic.
    Comrade himself. Lavrov may have a slight talent for hypnosis that helps him bring down some of his comrades inclined to suggestion. One GRU spetsnaz soldier (retired) told me how he underwent a training course for the president's personal security. Literally: "We were taken to the room of officers and warrant officers of the special forces. They put us on chairs. The command was to turn around. A man entered. What he did - I did not see, but then to the left and to the right of me people fell unconscious. I could hardly withstand the impact - there was a strong burning sensation in the back of the head and a state close to loss of consciousness. Those who survived the impact were selected for the second round ... "The comrade did not lie. Morality - there are people with a rare natural gift of remote influence on a person. There are only a few of them. All (or almost all) are registered where necessary. They felled not with tricks, but with the help of force that cannot be obtained in the gym or at the training ground.
    the rest are storytellers. Do you want to learn at least something - boxing (only the old Russian school), SAMBO (the old school and the old trainer) And start your search - asking questions how to work against it? Remember - a technique is not a panacea - this is a training action that most likely you will never be able to apply in its pure form in a real battle. Try to understand the principles. One of them (the main one) is a correctly aligned body, the spine and synchronization of movements and the ability to "listen" to a partner (as in dance, sex, etc.)
  48. 0
    April 29 2015 20: 16
    if you do not believe in it / does not mean that this is not_)


    Look yes you will find

    https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Мирин_Дажо
    http://lifeglobe.net/entry/3067

  49. 0
    25 October 2015 19: 45
    In far Soviet times, five strong young people attacked one of the employees of the state concert, a hypnotist, in the evening on the embankment, and with the aim of robbery, too, they were offered the idea of ​​holding hands and following the chain to the department of the mighty police, which they carried out. the police could not release their hands, this only happened after the artist allowed the hooligans. here is a contactless fight!
  50. +17
    20 February 2017 09: 57
    It's amazing how fraud seeps into martial arts

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