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Non-governmental organizations: double-bottom suitcases

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Non-governmental organizations: double-bottom suitcasesDisputes over the situation with Russian non-governmental organizations funded from abroad have gone beyond the boundaries of normal discussion. The debaters give arguments, each using only their own set, without hearing the opponent.


The Memorial, founded by Andrei Dmitrievich Sakharov, followed by the Western liberal press endlessly repeats the terrible meaning of the phrase “foreign agent” under Stalin. Critics of anti-Putin NGO's in response remind that Russian law actually copies the “Act on registration of foreign agents,” adopted in the US in the 1938 year and is still in force today.

For an observer younger, all this may sound wildly: Stalin died 60 years ago, in 1953, and the American Act was adopted in preparation for the Second World War, which the oldest of today's debaters found even small children.

But quite recently, the former Georgian president Eduard Shevardnadze (a politician highly respected in the West) accused the Soros Foundation and its associated Georgian NGOs in organizing the 2003 coup of the year that brought Saakashvili to power. The most interesting thing is that the American ambassador to Russia, Michael McFaul, who always calls Russia to repentance for Stalinism, does not intend to repent of events much closer in time. He does not repent either in the coup in Georgia or in the presence in the American funds of employees of completely different organizations.

This is how his member Maxim Grigoriev remembers his visit to the Public Chamber:

“It turned out that a number of people in these funds for some reason have extremely specific training. That is, training in the field of intelligence, guerrilla warfare, etc. The US ambassador said directly that he didn’t see anything wrong with that. He said that these people are in their place and perform their task. "

But the question is: what could be the consequences of tolerating such things. Recall: the post-Soviet space is a relatively recent, almost virgin soil for American foundations and organizations sponsored by them. Here these organizations appeared only in the nineties. Before that, in the seventies and eighties, all the same funds grouped around the so-called Peace Corps, refined their art in Latin America. Even earlier - in the sixties and earlier - they were seen in the Middle East.

In the zero years in the official American stories The twentieth century was a quiet but important revolution. Former President Bill Clinton recognized the role of the CIA in preparing Pinochet's coup in Chile in 1973, and Obama at the beginning of his reign uncovered the role of Americans in organizing a coup in Iran, which overthrew progressive Prime Minister Mohammed Mossadegh in 1953. It is worth noting that in those and other countries in those days, American charitable foundations were actively present, as if by chance.

Naturally, these funds did not come to Iran in 1953, and in Chile - in 1973. Before the upheavals, they managed to work there for many years, engaging in education and civil society. But when the revolution was accomplished, all these funds were suddenly politicized, actively advising pro-American regimes that had arisen in the place of the overthrown anti-American ones. So now the subversive role of those funds is obvious. There is a reasonable question. Why now should Russia believe in the "correction" of the United States after the twentieth century, if the United States likens today's Russia to almost the USSR under Stalin, who died exactly in the year of the coup in Iran?

Maxim Grigoriev, director of the Foundation for the Study of Democracy, considers the assurances of today's pro-Western NGOs in the non-political nature of their activities as elementary slyness:

"Of course, these organizations are engaged in politics. They pursue specific interests and coordinate with the authorities of foreign countries. They receive foreign assistance and often conduct anti-Russian propaganda activities. But I don’t urge to consider them intelligence agents of the US or any other. But their activities for society will be transparent and clear, it’s okay if they exist in Russia - I don’t see anything terrible in that. "

We live in an open world where the sympathies and antipathies of certain major politicians or entire regimes easily go beyond the borders of the state. Antipathies of the European Union and the United States to some high-ranking Russian politicians are known. They clearly manifested themselves during the last visit of President Putin to Germany and the Netherlands. It would be naive to expect that these antipathies will not find any response in Russia - at least from the part of the ever-dissatisfied liberal intelligentsia or part of the oligarchy moved away from the trough.

But Russia simply cannot do with itself, as with Iran in 1953, or as with Chile in 1973. The limit on the revolution in our country was exhausted in the early twentieth century. Now we need to strike a balance between preserving democracy and the need to avoid shocks.
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  1. Vladimirets
    Vladimirets April 15 2013 06: 37 New
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    Under the hindrance of the mixer are all these funds for the development of democracy, assistance to unreasonable nations, the organization of export of democracies, and liberal assistance committees. To their odious conductors of American expansion to offer to go on permanent residence in the countries that fed them. Any office that goes into Russian politics is recognized as hostile with all the consequences.
    1. Sirocco
      Sirocco April 15 2013 07: 17 New
      +7
      Non-governmental organizations: double-bottom suitcases These organizations should also be called by their own names. it Trojan horse. These horses can also be attributed to social networks (NPOs and Social networks of the same chain). They brainwash the young, not strong generation of Russia, without hiding it. Here is an example and a link where you can read more about the article. A former activist of the Kasparovsky FMG told how exactly the Russian “orange” are trying to “manage the Runet for their own purposes” and engage in brainwashing of Internet inhabitants.
      “Until some point X, we do not give ourselves out as disagreeing. We just rub ourselves into people's trust. For it is always easier to re-qualify an already united people than to unite from scratch. I don’t know who the first to say, maybe I am. For example, at the forum of cactus growers we, for 2 months, write to everyone “what kind of glue cacti you have,” they give us thanks, we give them ki-ki. , and so on and so forth. "And they, the electorate, receive information, although they are sitting on a forum of cacti growers. And they not only receive it, but also see how" everyone "perceives this information. And who is there" everything "? That's right. We - participants in the project, 3 people - 9 nicknames, and even more. Today, more than one such project has been launched and run in RuNet to “form public opinion.” There is an Internet project for every “movement” in real life. They met me and told me (and there were witnesses with me) that “there were sponsors, and the project was launched even more ambitiously than originally intended.” That now even they they’re planning to quit their job and deal only with this project, especially since now they’ll also pay for it "

      A few months later, a “bomb” appeared on the Internet - a leak of the presentation of the project, which was adopted in a more expanded form:
      http://www.politonline.ru/ventilyator/7902.html Странным выглядит вся ситуация с НКО. Сам Владимир Владимирович в интервью Немецкому кореспонденту, ссказал и показал, о НКО в США, что там таких безобразных действий НКО в политике не допускают и неразрешают.Тогда почему у нас эти паразиты как грибы растут. Гнать их в три шеи. Ибо благими намерениями дорога в ад мостится. Только мы в этом Аду будемнаходиться а не спонсоры НКО.
      1. djon3volta
        djon3volta April 15 2013 09: 06 New
        +4
        Quote: Sirocco
        Correctly. We are participants in the project, 3 people - 9 nicknames, and even more.

        On this site there are also such people, especially they reveal themselves in topics about corruption))) in such topics, if you say something good in the direction of the authorities, they’ll immediately call us Nashist, Kremlin Zh.Liz, a thief, etc. .. or a recent article about .kolkhoz, which he called the bulk man))) well, according to the comments, it can be seen from such articles who is who and who dances to the tune, well, what is there to hide.
        Quote: Sirocco
        project on “shaping public opinion”.

        and for the formation of public opinion, on sites and forums there is system of pluses and minuses under comments, well, am I not right? a few years ago there were nowhere these + and -, now on all sites there are almost, people are watching who has more minuses and pluses, and public opinion is being formed.
        1. kris
          kris April 15 2013 09: 47 New
          0
          Ex-Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation Anatoly Serdyukov is going on a case of embezzlement at the Ministry of Defense as a witness and not an accused, since the investigation does not have enough arguments to change his status.
          So said the press secretary of the President of the Russian Federation Dmitry Peskov in the program "Sunday evening" with Vladimir Solovyov on the channel "Russia 1".
        2. Tartary
          Tartary April 15 2013 10: 52 New
          +7
          Quote: djon3volta
          On this site there are also such people, especially they reveal themselves in topics about corruption))) in such topics, if you say something good in the direction of the authorities, they’ll immediately call us Nashist, Kremlin Zh.Liz, a thief, etc. .. or a recent article about .kolkhoz, which he called the bulk man))) well, according to the comments, it can be seen from such articles who is who and who dances to the tune, well, what is there to hide.

          I’ll say more: - here they even climbed into the moderators ...
          New users and know do not know how they started. But the old new ones remember and know who is who ...
          1. Belogor
            Belogor April 15 2013 10: 59 New
            +3
            unfortunately this is a phenomenon on many similar sites, because liberal trolls are very active.
        3. Egoza
          Egoza April 15 2013 11: 05 New
          +6
          Quote: djon3volta
          people are watching who has more minuses and pluses, and public opinion is being formed.

          Yes, it doesn’t hurt, people are looking at these +/-. Reads the article and expresses his opinion formed after reading the article.
          1. djon3volta
            djon3volta April 15 2013 13: 09 New
            +2
            Quote: Egoza
            Yes, it doesn’t hurt, people are looking at these +/-.

            why then a system with + and - is needed? well, what is it for? why then do people plus and minus comments? I know what will happen if this system is removed, the meaning of comments will immediately lose its attractiveness, many will get lost)))
            1. Ruslan67
              Ruslan67 April 15 2013 19: 11 New
              +4
              Quote: djon3volta
              why then do we need a system with + and - well, what is it for?

              And what would be particularly distinguished without restricting their rights and freedoms in the possibilities negative laughing
              1. Tverichanka
                Tverichanka April 15 2013 21: 51 New
                +1
                Quote: Ruslan67
                without restricting their rights and freedoms

                In what way is it interesting? What do those who have skulls on shoulder straps have no right to write a post? By itself, the system of pluses and minuses can and does make sense, it is impossible to respond to every comment, but can you thus express an attitude to what has been said?
          2. Tverichanka
            Tverichanka April 15 2013 21: 46 New
            +2
            Quote: Egoza
            after reading the article

            And how many of those who themselves admit that they didn’t read the article? Personally, I’ve already faced this a hundred times. And I always wondered how the person didn’t read the article, and he writes comments one by one? And it turns out that the comments are not essentially discussed problems, and a hassle in the communal kitchen.
        4. S_mirnov
          S_mirnov April 15 2013 11: 15 New
          -3
          "in such topics, if you say something good in the direction of the authorities, then they will immediately call us Nashi," is a very indicative assessment of the authorities by the people! laughing
          "people are watching who has more minuses and pluses, and public opinion is being formed" - these are only stupid people without the ability to think so.
    2. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov April 15 2013 07: 35 New
      +6
      Quote: Vladimirets
      Any office that goes into Russian politics is recognized as hostile with all the consequences

      Not only the office, but also those who work in it! You can deport part of Magadan, others to their homeland in the United States.
    3. Aleks28
      Aleks28 April 15 2013 07: 52 New
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      Quote: Vladimirets
      All these foundations for the development of democracy are under the ass

      But then such people themselves will die out, like dinosaurs laughing
      1. Ghenxnumx
        Ghenxnumx April 15 2013 08: 59 New
        +2
        Quote: Allex28
        But then such people themselves will die out, like dinosaurs

        Themselves. Only here not here, please, let the earth suffer from its poison in the USA, not ours am
      2. lewerlin53rus
        lewerlin53rus April 15 2013 09: 00 New
        +4
        Quote: Allex28
        But then such people themselves will die out, like dinosaurs

        Unfortunately, the more disgusting the scum, the longer it spoils the air. But good people leave untimely. But the latter are remembered for centuries, and the former are forgotten the day after the funeral.
        1. Aleks28
          Aleks28 April 15 2013 14: 16 New
          +6
          Quote: lewerlin53rus
          but they forget about the first ones the day after the funeral.

          You will forget about this, as they say when going from a funeral, they will constantly look around: if they’re not running from the back.
          1. Nick
            Nick April 16 2013 20: 27 New
            0
            Quote: Allex28
            You will forget about this, as they say when going from a funeral, they will constantly look around: if they’re not running from the back.

            They don’t run, they fly on brooms ...
      3. valokordin
        valokordin April 15 2013 09: 14 New
        +2
        How many in the face of this lady is nasty, disgusting, anti-Russian. This is an old bacillus in the body of a country that is trying to mask harmful bacteria and destroy antibodies that fight infection.
      4. wulf66
        wulf66 April 15 2013 09: 41 New
        +1
        I agree, I’m sure to die out, because this creature is prehistoric ...
      5. FATEMOGAN
        FATEMOGAN April 15 2013 10: 16 New
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        These will die out, so new ones will be budged around Amerov handouts ....
      6. FATEMOGAN
        FATEMOGAN April 15 2013 10: 18 New
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        These will die out, so new ones will be budged around Amerov handouts ....
      7. S_mirnov
        S_mirnov April 15 2013 11: 26 New
        -9
        And why is everyone so stubbornly silent about the richest and most influential NGO - the Russian Orthodox Church? He receives huge money from abroad, and the impact on people is huge! It was not for nothing that Gundiai was the first to run to the GDP as a law to introduce steel, he understood what it threatened him with and demanded indulgence!
        Indeed, in reality, a huge non-government non-governmental organization is ripening in the country with a lot of property, its financial flows, the power apparatus and actively instilling a slavish worldview for free Soviet people! Here she is the real Al Qaeda (and not a mythical American notion).
        1. FATEMOGAN
          FATEMOGAN April 15 2013 12: 33 New
          +6
          Quote: S_mirnov
          And why is everyone so stubbornly silent about the richest and most influential NGO - the Russian Orthodox Church?

          S-Mirnov, stop quoting Brzezinski, or else your poems smack of some sort of constant plagiarism bully
          1. S_mirnov
            S_mirnov April 15 2013 14: 42 New
            -3
            "stop quoting Brzezinski," I can’t quote Brzezinski, because I don’t read his books (I consider him a hater of Russia and do not want to waste time on obvious nonsense). But is he also a supporter of the fact that Gundyaev must be sent to Kolyma together with Chaplin?
            Maybe then Brzezinski is not hopeless?
            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKLwcSzGLe8
            1. FATEMOGAN
              FATEMOGAN April 15 2013 16: 30 New
              +5
              Quote: S_mirnov
              "stop quoting Brzezinski," I can’t quote Brzezinski, because don't read his books

              I don’t know whether you are reading Bzezhinsky or not, I didn’t hold a candle, but what your thoughts and his often coincide, so don’t go to your grandmother ...
              (Photo clickable)
          2. alexng
            alexng April 15 2013 15: 53 New
            +4
            Quote: FATEMOGAN
            S-Mirnov, stop quoting Brzezinski, or else your poems smack of some sort of constant plagiarism


            This pseudo patriot will lie with his bones to defend America and constantly vilify everything in Russia. It looks like another Nkoshnik-grantosos, disguised as an honest resident of Russia.
            1. S_mirnov
              S_mirnov April 15 2013 22: 45 New
              -4
              Gundyaev also blasphemes, in his opinion, your ancestors are "second-class people" if you are a Slav of course. wink
              1. Aleks28
                Aleks28 April 15 2013 22: 51 New
                +2
                Quote: S_mirnov
                Gundyaev also vilifies, in his opinion your ancestors - "people of the second grade" if you are a Slav of course.

                So you are not a Slav? belay And that means not Orthodox. So in my dear, since everything is so, then do not open your mouth about Orthodoxy.
                1. FATEMOGAN
                  FATEMOGAN April 16 2013 00: 12 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Allex28
                  Quote: S_mirnov Gundyaev also vilifies, in his opinion, your ancestors are “second-class people” if you are a Slav of course. So you are not a Slav? And that means not Orthodox. So in my dear, since everything is so, then do not open your mouth about Orthodoxy.

                  Quote: S_mirnov
                  . In addition, I am Russian and a supporter of the USSR and communism


                  Here is a foreign agent of S-Mirnov and split, because he and the Russian and not a Slav and a communist with white-tape manners, however, erred !!

                  Sir S-mirnov, according to Russian law, you must indicate that you are a foreign agent, do not forget !!! bully
                2. S_mirnov
                  S_mirnov April 16 2013 13: 56 New
                  0
                  Your perverted logic, I am a Slav, Russian nationality. Orthodoxy for me is one of the religions like Buddhism or Islam. I am indifferent to them. I criticize venal priests sucking blood from the working people and not the desire of people to believe in one or another god.
                  And it’s not for you to decide when to open my mouth, and when not to open! I am a free man and I realized my freedom as a necessity. If you want to command someone - command your wife, unless of course you get a rolling pin in your forehead.
              2. FATEMOGAN
                FATEMOGAN April 16 2013 00: 07 New
                +2
                Quote: S_mirnov
                Gundyaev also blasphemes, in his opinion, your ancestors are "second-class people" if you are a Slav of course.

                But this is already frank LIES !! stop which has been repeatedly refuted !!! and you Smirnov, after that, still tell tales that you are not Zas * anec from the fifth belolentochnoy column. They are immediately visible on the shitty trail that they leave behind .... negative


                1. S_mirnov
                  S_mirnov April 16 2013 14: 01 New
                  -1
                  If you are not too lazy, you will find on the Internet a video where the gunday openly calls the Slavs barbarians and second-class people. I have not saved the link.
                  I can share these:
                  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKLwcSzGLe8
                  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rd3PdqatF-0
                  “you are not Zas * anec from the fifth belolentochny column. They are immediately visible on the shit trail” and you need to see a psychiatrist, you have fecalophilia, a kind of stool cult.
        2. Aleks28
          Aleks28 April 15 2013 14: 33 New
          +4
          ]
          Quote: S_mirnov
          And why is everyone so stubbornly silent about the richest and most influential NGO - the Russian Orthodox Church? He receives huge money from abroad, and the impact on people is huge!

          Mr. S_mirnov change the record. (Your bile is already sick), or at least an avatar for this one:
          1. S_mirnov
            S_mirnov April 15 2013 14: 38 New
            +1
            This avatar is more suitable for you. In addition, I am Russian and a supporter of the USSR and communism. And this photo is yours - a trade liberal tricolor color.
            1. Aleks28
              Aleks28 April 15 2013 14: 40 New
              0
              Quote: S_mirnov
              This avatar is more suitable for you. In addition, I am Russian and a supporter of the USSR and communism. And this photo is yours - a trade liberal tricolor color.

              No, I'm serious. Don't dishonor the illustrious partisan.
              1. S_mirnov
                S_mirnov April 15 2013 14: 45 New
                0
                What do I disgrace him for? Making fun of shopkeepers in the temple?
                Here is Kvachkov’s answer on this topic
                http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKLwcSzGLe8
                very indicative for me, I consider Kvachkov a patriot.
                And who do you consider a patriot?
                1. Aleks28
                  Aleks28 April 15 2013 15: 36 New
                  +4
                  Quote: S_mirnov
                  And who do you consider a patriot?

                  In my opinion, I answered this question. One can add that Kovpak is not the last on their list. Yes, unlike you, Putin, I also consider him a patriot.
                2. FATEMOGAN
                  FATEMOGAN April 15 2013 16: 38 New
                  +4
                  Quote: S_mirnov
                  Making fun of shopkeepers in the temple?

                  Look, I think you will find out a lot of interesting things who are trying to pour mud on Russia and Proclamation ... look Smirnov, maybe you will find yourself in the frame ...
            2. Ascetic
              Ascetic April 15 2013 22: 05 New
              +4
              Quote: S_mirnov
              supporter of the USSR and communism


              Supporters of communism (almost all) and partly supporters of the USSR flag of the Russian Federation present at you by ip consider "Vlasov". He himself also thought so in the early 90s, even did not wear a sleeve chevron, for which he was constantly stuck at combat reviews (but I was deeply in this.) We are glad to change it to the USSR’s most ardent patriot communist and supporter of the USSR remained the same ...Puncture... you have not finalized here request
              For me it’s better to discuss with Normal, or with Carabiner, Basque and many .. at least you need to move your brains, it’s clear that people have their OWN position. volts, and even then he will give a head start
              1. S_mirnov
                S_mirnov April 15 2013 22: 53 New
                -5
                ". A puncture in the little things ... you didn’t complete it; you didn’t" not work it out "but didn’t even know that you can change flags here, can you teach? I will say thanks.
                "And with you everything is simple and clear .. and for this reason" - as a rule, everything is simple and clear to those who greatly simplify everything, i.e. can't think deeply. Although many complex problems have a simple solution.
                1. Aleks28
                  Aleks28 April 15 2013 23: 00 New
                  +1
                  Quote: S_mirnov
                  but I didn’t even know that here you can change flags, maybe teach? I will say thanks.

                  Any flag here can be replaced by the Soviet one by placing a bird (in profile) in front of the column "born in the USSR.
                  1. stalkerwalker
                    stalkerwalker April 15 2013 23: 15 New
                    +3
                    Quote: Allex28
                    Any flag here can be replaced by the Soviet one by placing a bird (in profile) in front of the column "born in the USSR.

                    Thank you, enlightened ...
                    That’s how I look, the mass of people has crossed over under the red banner, almost without exception.
                    The question, of course, is more philosophical ...
                    But do we often change flags?
                    1. stalkerwalker
                      stalkerwalker April 16 2013 01: 44 New
                      +3
                      Quote: stalkerwalker
                      But do we often change flags?

                      Why be offended?
                  2. S_mirnov
                    S_mirnov April 16 2013 14: 02 New
                    -1
                    Thanks for the information.
        3. Vtel
          Vtel April 15 2013 15: 44 New
          +6
          Felix Dzerzhinsky dreamed of becoming a priest, and became a convinced Bolshevik, moreover, he headed the main instrument of the Red Terror of the Cheka. The October Revolution gave Dzerzhinsky the opportunity to begin a literally deadly struggle with the church. As the head of the Cheka, he put the fight against counterrevolutionaries, which, of course, belonged to the clergy, in a big way. But the more Felix Dzerzhinsky loved mankind, the more passion he destroyed the enemies of the revolution. He explained it this way: "Proletarian coercion in all forms, starting from executions, is a method of developing a communist person from the material of the capitalist era."
          The Trotskyists, they are also liberals hated fiercely and hate the Orthodox Church! The Orthodox Church is the spiritual core of Russia and you cannot beat it out.
        4. TUMAN
          TUMAN April 15 2013 23: 00 New
          -3
          Quote: S_mirnov
          And why is everyone so stubbornly silent about the richest and most influential NGO - the Russian Orthodox Church? He receives huge money from abroad, and the impact on people is huge! It was not for nothing that Gundiai was the first to run to the GDP as a law to introduce steel, he understood what it threatened him with and demanded indulgence!

          good
      8. VadimSt
        VadimSt April 15 2013 12: 50 New
        +4
        This mummy is so often inserted into comments that I’m afraid it will soon begin to dream!
        Her photograph, along with our Farion, needs to be hung up at the stalls - the children will cease to indulge in low-alcohol drinks!
        1. Van
          Van April 15 2013 16: 49 New
          +3
          It’s even interesting if we, ordinary people, will be able to arrange “NGO-NGO-NPO and pkh.” Bartholomew’s night if necessary ?! angry And if we can, how, and when. hi
          1. Rebus
            Rebus April 15 2013 16: 59 New
            +3
            Quote: Wang
            It’s even interesting, but can we, ordinary people, make this “NGO” Bartholomew’s night if necessary ?!

            Of course you can, only they will put laughing .... In general, the best way to deal with all kinds of NGOs is through economic pressure, that is, come to them and politely (without battering) tell us what people should share, while accidentally waving pliers or a hammer in front of their face ...
          2. Van
            Van April 15 2013 17: 21 New
            +4
            The Conquerors of Truth and Glory are creators,
            The favorites of the Gods we are Slavs!
            No wonder the priests do not tolerate us Allah
            And the other parties are Hagar.

            From the age of trying to destroy us
            Unclean Black Force
            And extinguish with your stinking breath
            Slavic our luminary.

            But the vain efforts are all Basurman,
            Their lies and deceit are in vain -
            From the South Kuril Islands to the bright Balkans
            The Slavic Kingdom shines.

            Let us not be surrounded by enemies
            And their face of Satan is terrible,
            But with us is always the power of our Gods,
            We are her gigantic strong.

            Should we pull together into a single fist -
            In Oneness is only our salvation,
            And no matter how strong or insidious our enemy is,
            Stronger is our unity.

            Great, Small, White Russia,
            Bulgarian, Serbian brothers,
            Forward for the United Slavic Union,
            Forward for Slavic happiness!

            The Solar Cross revolves above us
            In the firmament of azure Svarog
            And the Makos Land is being blown around
            Winged Children of Stribog.

            Perun the Thunderer with a Golden Beard
            Flies on his chariot
            And he calls us into battle with the Hagarian horde
            Perunova Daughter - Perunitsa.

            Stribog will send us a refreshing breeze
            In the shadow of the Great Family,
            The motto is inscribed on our banner:
            FATHERLAND, HONOR AND FREEDOM!

            Here is our heritage, our ideal,
            Our spiritual wealth
            Yes, all those who betrayed will be damned
            Holy Slavic Brotherhood.

            May today we honor Orthodox Christ
            And proudly called Christians
            But from heaven, the sign of the ancient cross shines on us:
            We are the Grandchildren of Dazhdzhobi - Slavs.
  2. Kaa
    Kaa April 15 2013 06: 40 New
    +7
    Here is what American law says about this: “On July 29, 2005, the Bill on the Promotion of Democracy was approved by a large majority of the House of Representatives of the United States Congress (351 votes to 78). The Law on the Promotion of Democracy treats local non-governmental organizations (NGOs) as the main and key subjects of the political revolution in the country subject to “democratization,” while the US embassies have a “secondary”, auxiliary role. For the first time in recent history, the highest legislative body of the United States of America, a member of the General Assembly and the UN Security Council, passes the law, according to which:
    - The mission and main function of the American embassies in “undemocratic” countries is the organization and financing of anti-government opposition, formed from the local population to influence the authorities in the direction desired for the United States and, ultimately, to conduct a “democratic revolution” (“elimination of dictators ").
    - The US Congress officially declares illegitimate all those governments and political systems that they call it “undemocratic” and which, according to US law, are subject to a “non-violent” overthrow.
    - Congress and US federal authorities proclaim and legally (legislatively) enforce their “right” to decide which government and in which country it will “eliminate”.
    - The US government has created a special body under its Ministry of Foreign Affairs (State Department) to organize and conduct "democratic revolutions" in any country it chooses, the US government.
    - The US embassies form non-governmental organizations from liberal and pro-Western opposition groups and individuals, which the US State Department on behalf of a certain “world community” declares to be “true” representatives of the people, and by whose hands it eliminates the government that is objectionable to it.
    - In violation of the fundamental foundations of international law and interstate relations, the United States of America denies the sovereign right of members of the United Nations to establish its form of statehood and its government.
    - By the adoption of this law, all the peoples of our planet declared “undemocratic” are declared incapable of independent state creativity and therefore need American help.
    Russia is also on the list of “undemocratic” countries, so it, like Cuba and Iran, Syria and Belarus, is facing a “non-violent democratic revolution” by the forces of “democratic” non-governmental organizations and groups trained and paid for by US government agencies and foundations.
    http://pravaya.ru/look/6505
    1. Egoza
      Egoza April 15 2013 11: 14 New
      +3
      I support, dear Kaa!
      Oh and disingenuous Maxim Grigoriev, director of the Foundation for the Study of Democracy.
      We also had NGOs working at the Kyiv-Mohyla Academy in Kiev - "training in tourism" - how to set up tents, how to survive under adverse conditions, etc. They worked for several years, and then again - and on Maidan, from the basements of the same Mogilyanka, orange tents and other orange attributes, together with the students, showed the world "their face."
      Of course, the United States (and others) will yell that it is a disgrace to check NGOs. Still would! It took so many years, grandmas spent on bribing officials, on equipment, on propaganda ... And all in vain? belay "But if their activities for society are transparent and understandable, it’s okay for them to exist in Russia - I don’t see anything wrong with that." Everything has been clear to everyone for a long time, only the Foundation for the Study of Democracy has something unclear. By the way, where does this fund come from? bully
    2. stalkerwalker
      stalkerwalker April 15 2013 16: 47 New
      +5
      Quote: Kaa
      That's what American law says about it.

      Honor and respect ...
      As always, in time and on time
      good
  3. Vanek
    Vanek April 15 2013 06: 40 New
    +7
    I remembered the news.

    The chief said that we, citizens, should know what their so-called grants are spent on. I really, really wonder where they spend the loot? To screams that everything is bad in Russia? Or, say, to repair kindergartens? So for the loot and I do not mind screaming. But just yell.

    WHERE DO YOU SPEND BABLO ????
    1. Belogor
      Belogor April 15 2013 11: 06 New
      +2
      Vanya. So for the loot and I do not mind yelling


      But what about citizenship, principles? Or for the loot you can put them where?
      1. Egoza
        Egoza April 15 2013 11: 27 New
        +5
        Quote: Belogor
        But what about citizenship, principles? Or for the loot you can put them where?

        And so it’s exactly what they do for us ... They go out for the loot to yell, only the “faces” are hiding behind scarves for some reason, but the hats are pulled to the very eyes. But Mr. Lytvyn even advises pensioners who are trying to bribe before the election - "You all take it! Money, buckwheat, rations ... and in the elections you vote as you see fit" laughing And what do you think? Old people do that! It’s a strange thing - “oppa” and all sorts of NGOs hopes for the honesty of the old people brought up under the USSR, but forgets that so many times their state has inflated, that it was already possible to learn the “democratic choice” and act just like the state with its promises.
        1. stalkerwalker
          stalkerwalker April 15 2013 16: 49 New
          +4
          Quote: Egoza
          Old people do that!

          And my mother-in-law in Ukraine does this - with her pension, which is barely enough for utilities
  4. VadimSt
    VadimSt April 15 2013 06: 44 New
    +2
    Democracy and permissiveness are different concepts! Those who go beyond the limits allowed by the legislation of the country should remember and be prepared for the fact that national independence requires sacrifice!
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov April 15 2013 07: 36 New
      +3
      Quote: VadimSt
      Democracy and permissiveness are different concepts!

      Yes? And what is democracy ?????
      1. Vanek
        Vanek April 15 2013 07: 43 New
        +2
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        And what is democracy?


        Democracy is modern ......

        Whose words?

        Alexander hi
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov April 15 2013 08: 02 New
          +3
          Quote: Vanek
          Democracy is modern .... fascism

          Hello Ivan! I want to ask a person, otherwise he writes about different concepts. Although I don’t think he understood what he wrote about request
          1. lewerlin53rus
            lewerlin53rus April 15 2013 09: 02 New
            +3
            The freedom of one person should end where the freedom of another begins.
          2. VadimSt
            VadimSt April 15 2013 22: 55 New
            0
            It’s good that there is someone who thinks and knows everything — and I, without an external excursion into the foundations of democracy, will manage, and I won’t get to “utopia”.
            At all times, the main principle of a democratic society was the subjugation of a minority to the majority. It is only sometimes that the minority forgets that considering democracy, one must begin not with the principles of democracy, but with the foundations of the state and law.
            Have you asked? I answered!
      2. Rebus
        Rebus April 15 2013 15: 42 New
        +2
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Yes? And what is democracy ?????

        Democracy is an archaic form of political structure based on slavery ...

        Democracy existed in ancient slave states; this system degenerated by itself and passed into dictatorship and tyranny. History has documented this process in detail. Many authors, for example, Plato and Aristotle (long before the authorities of the New Time - de Tocqueville, Popper, Schumpeter) outlined the basic principles of democracy, which were then clarified, but not refuted. For example, if Plato said that democracy leads to tyranny, then no one has refuted this thesis - they refuted the ideals of Plato himself, his caste state, but not the history of democracy. They simply agreed to believe that that ancient democracy degenerated into tyranny, and the new democracy is a method of combating tyranny. A rather strange conclusion, but common.

        Maxim Kantor.
        The slow jaws of democracy.
  5. mogus
    mogus April 15 2013 06: 50 New
    +5
    McFaul's pearls about us http://fedorov-selsky.livejournal.com/442064.html

    “Promoting freedom requires first and foremost
    containment and then
    DESTRUCTIONS
    forces opposing her
    will it be an individual
    movements or modes ”- McFaul M. The Liberty Doctrine:
    Reclaiming the purpose of
    American power. Policy
    Review April & May 2002
    (www.stanford.edu/~mcfaul/
    publications.html - all works by McFaul)

    “Unbridled Russia undermines power
    West and self-willed [!]
    obstructs politics
    investment
    [economic
    enslavement] foreign oil
    companies under the pretext
    compliance
    environmental measures
    by exclusion
    foreign participants in the development of gas
    Shtokman and
    refusing entry into
    country to Mr. Browder ... ”-” This unconstrained Russian
    state also has destroyed
    Western wealth and
    discouraged investment by
    arbitrarily enforcing
    environmental regulations against foreign oil investors,
    shutting out foreign partners in
    the development of the
    Shtokman gas field, and
    denying a visa to the largest
    portfolio investor in Russia, British citizen William
    Browder. ” April 2007 “Liberal
    Is as Liberal Does ”MICHAEL
    MCFAUL.

    “Putin poses a clear threat to the United States, because not
    consistent with interests
    Of Russia in the view
    USA. Namely: - not
    greeted orange
    coup in Ukraine, - supports Belarus
    and her leadership, -
    refuses to obey
    US requirements in
    against Iran, -
    encourages Uzbek leadership to close
    US military base
    dares to render
    armed
    Georgian Resistance ”-“ ... even one with a liberal in the
    Kremlin, would act
    differently ... celebrated the
    Orange Revolution in Ukraine,
    worked with Europe to
    weaken the Belarusian dictator, Lukashenko, and
    cooperated more closely with
    the US in pressuring Tehran ...
    [encouraging Uzbek leader
    Islam Karimov to close down
    the American base in Uzbekistan, ... threatening war
    with Georgia]. And all of these
    policies would have advanced
    Russian national interests. ” -
    “Liberal Is as Liberal Does.

    Further there is still
  6. fenix57
    fenix57 April 15 2013 07: 17 New
    +9
    Quote: Vladimirets
    . Any office that goes into Russian politics is recognized as hostile with all the consequences.

    +++. And all these NGOs are such. After all, the leadership of these organizations is still against whom to go, it is the same as Pussy, Femini. They are one hell; the money received is forward against everyone. And then, even though the grass doesn’t grow ... I really hope that these "overgrown" were and still are not so sweet in those places "away ... And all of them there too (NGOs).
    1. djon3volta
      djon3volta April 15 2013 10: 24 New
      +7
      I hope Navalny will soon get a quilted jacket too, and will go to saw the forest naturally, as a woodcutter)))

      Vladimir Central, north wind
      stage from Moscow, it was going on at once .. Navalny, Udaltsov, Nemtsov, Chirikova, Razvozhaev, Lebedev, etc.
      1. kris
        kris April 15 2013 12: 09 New
        0
        Quote: djon3volta
        Vladimir Central, north wind
        stage from Moscow, it was going on inevitably .. Navalny, Udaltsov, Nemtsov, Chiriko
  7. Fox
    Fox April 15 2013 07: 25 New
    +1
    the article is large, but I have a question for the author: are you justifying yourself to the Alekseev-Nemtsov? but it is necessary? to send them one way without a return ticket, and all for a short time.
  8. djon3volta
    djon3volta April 15 2013 07: 46 New
    0
    But a little literate person perfectly understands that no structure receiving funds from the cordon will work for the benefit of the state in which it works.
    for clarity, the film was shot in 2007. A film entitled “Revolution.com. USA: The Conquest and Subjugation of the East ”talks about the technologies for preparing and conducting“ color ”revolutions using the example of Serbia, Georgia, Ukraine and Kyrgyzstan. The next in line, according to the authors of the film, is Russia.
    By the way, the film was shot by a Frenchman, not Russia, commissioned by the Kremlin for propaganda.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3QxDgft148
  9. djon3volta
    djon3volta April 15 2013 07: 48 New
    +5
    But a little literate person perfectly understands that no structure receiving funds from the cordon will work for the benefit of the state in which it works.
    for clarity, the film was shot in 2007. A film entitled “Revolution.com. USA: The Conquest and Subjugation of the East ”talks about the technologies for preparing and conducting“ color ”revolutions using the example of Serbia, Georgia, Ukraine and Kyrgyzstan. The next in line, according to the authors of the film, is Russia.
    By the way, the film was shot by a Frenchman, not Russia, commissioned by the Kremlin for propaganda.



    the film shows the leaders of the Belarusian and Ukrainian opposition, and how the Old Man drives them)))
    1. Humpty
      Humpty April 15 2013 10: 24 New
      +3
      Familiar places, some faces of the same. The second inter-Kyrgyz coup was "more fun."
      They put the president as completely controlled by the Americans Otumbaev. All Bakiyev deputies are considered heroes, especially those killed and injured. Including those victims about whom two stocks were broken while trying to plunder and burn the church (by the way, the priest escaped), the synagogue was set on fire. Running around means "revolutionaries in the city", they see, there, with a butt, like peas from a double-barreled shotgun. They decided to seize the land on the outskirts near the village, considered a village. It didn’t work out either. We ran to another village. They seized the fields from the Kurds, attacked Kurdish houses in the village of Mayevka, began to burn, two Kurds were brutally killed. They got a rebuff there too. It seems like 3-5 out of several hundred attacking Mayevka marauders suffered completely. The police did not intervene, did not interfere with the revolutionary impulse of the people, one people, other peoples do not participate in this.
    2. Egoza
      Egoza April 15 2013 11: 18 New
      +4
      Quote: djon3volta
      leaders of the Belarusian and Ukrainian opposition, and how the Old Man drives them)

      AND CORRECTLY DOES !!!!
      1. djon3volta
        djon3volta April 15 2013 15: 05 New
        +3
        Quote: Egoza
        AND CORRECTLY DOES !!!!

        certainly right, I even hold Lukashenko good he quickly pacified silent clappers in 2011 when the crisis broke out. the plainclothes guys seized the Belarusian hamsters and the protests subsided and the crisis passed. that’s why I fully support when the hamsters are detained in Moscow. why are they needed? I don’t need them.
  10. pensioner
    pensioner April 15 2013 08: 20 New
    +5
    Apparently Alekseeva in the photo shows us all the fakis. We must return them to this old stsuke. In general, it’s time to stop just chatting on this topic, and to purposefully fight with NGOs. There are many methods. After all, there are patriots not only in the tax, the FSB and the Ministry of Internal Affairs, but also in the housing and communal services. Plumbers for example. With proper use, they can SUCH that these reptiles will not be up to ideological sabotage. To wash off. Where can I get the addresses of regional branches of NGOs? I am very interested in E-burg. I didn’t find anything on the Internet. I don’t have much with this at all. Help the old man.
    1. Tartary
      Tartary April 15 2013 10: 59 New
      0
      Quote: retired
      Plumbers for example. With proper use, they can SUCH

      Quote: retired
      Where to get the addresses of regional branches of NGOs

      Quote: retired
      Help the old man.

      Well, finally ... The Voroshilov shooter arrived.
      But to hell, do you really expect from young help? Almost always busy - bars, clubs, discos ...
  11. Mikhail Topor
    Mikhail Topor April 15 2013 09: 01 New
    +2
    Quote: retired
    SUCH can arrange

    solo attacks are ineffective. A systematic approach is better. For this, certain steps have already been taken. For example, the blog of Nikolay Starikov lists NGOs. Together with the Citizens Union, they see to it that these NGOs identify themselves as foreign agents. Perhaps you can make your contribution there. hi
    PS. Act only within the framework of the law. Violation of the law is an extreme measure that is not currently necessary.
  12. Semyon Albertovich
    Semyon Albertovich April 15 2013 09: 03 New
    +3
    The US Empire will not throw money away, various funds / Ford, Soros, Rockefeller, etc. etc. / set as their goal control over the domestic political life of the country of arrival in the national interests of the United States / world domination /. Only chat lovers and those who feed on state bounties will believe in the disinterestedness of these NGOs / most of them under official cover are engaged in ordinary intelligence /. Overseas wise men came up with a good method / NPO / influence.
  13. engineer74
    engineer74 April 15 2013 09: 13 New
    0
    The problem of NGOs and Internet revolution seems a bit far-fetched. Firstly, our national attitude towards the allocated money (we are still looking for tranches of the IMF of the 90s, Navalny has noted quite well in Kirovles, etc.) how much money can be spent on “revolution”. Secondly, there is an insurmountable distance between the cozy page on the social network and the Molotov cocktail on the barricade for office plankton. Therefore, only ideological professional revolutionaries are dangerous for the state, but here, too, not everything is smooth; there is no idea (we in the XNUMXth century, it seems, we tried everything, immunity is already against the radicals). So that the government reacts to this whole circus exactly to the extent to which it deserves it. IMHO
  14. Humpty
    Humpty April 15 2013 09: 45 New
    +3
    Clear. NGOs associated with Americans, Saudis, Turks, or with the con man Sores are prejudicial. It’s like I was born yesterday and didn’t understand this until today)) Once you are an author, it seemed to me not quite consistent in your article. Pro-American NPOs are certainly enemies, and it is only the fifth column that disputes, but how then, to the account of Sakhorov, whom you deigned to call Andrey Dmitrievich, was he not an enemy and a mean traitor? If not, then he was just a crazy old man who shocked even the same Americans with his antics when he called for a quicker nuclear bombardment of Moscow.
    I recall one of the first creators of such NGOs - Vlasov, how to call him Andrey Andreyevich?
    Oh no.
    1. Egoza
      Egoza April 15 2013 11: 32 New
      +6
      Quote: Humpty
      how then about Sakhorov, whom you deigned to call Andrey Dmitrievich, that he was not an enemy and a mean traitor? If not, then he was just a crazy old man who shocked even the same Americans with his antics when he called for a quicker nuclear bombardment of Moscow.

      Well you! He madly loved his wife - Elena Bonner! Take an interest in her biography! But in general, a similar story is that of Misha Gorbachev with Raya, that of Sakharov and Bonner. lol
      1. Apollo
        Apollo April 16 2013 21: 00 New
        +2
        Quote: Egoza
        Well you! He madly loved his wife - Elena Bonner! Take an interest in her biography!

        Elena Bonner
        Elena Bonner
        Birthday: 15.02.1923 of the year
        Date of death: 18.06.2011 of the year
        Place of death: Boston, USA
        Citizenship: Russia
        short biography
        During the Great Patriotic War, she was a nurse and medical service officer at the front, and since the end of the 60's she was actively engaged in "human rights" activities hand in hand with her husband, Andrei Dmitrievich SAKHAROV
        Initially bore the name of Lusik Alikhanova. Father, Armenian Alikhanyan Gevork Sarkisovich, employee of the Comintern, was shot on February 13 of 1938 of the year.
        http://www.peoples.ru/state/statesmen/elena_bonner/
    2. stalkerwalker
      stalkerwalker April 15 2013 16: 57 New
      +5
      Quote: Humpty
      Sakhorov whom you deigned to call Andrey Dmitrievich

      Forgive this old and late fart - to old age we will all be either insane, without noticing it ourselves (after all insanity comes unnoticed), or too sentimental.
      Sakharov did his job as a scientist.
      And then, mabut, the green toad crushed - not enough "thanks" from the country I received for a wonderful weapon. Or something like that. Add the “immodest charm” of the Yavreika wife.
  15. pensioner
    pensioner April 15 2013 10: 16 New
    +1
    Quote: Humpty
    but then what about Sakhorov, whom you deigned to call Andrey Dmitrievich, that he was not an enemy and a mean traitor? If not, then he was just a crazy old man who shocked even the same Americans with his antics when he called for a quicker nuclear bombardment of Moscow.

    He was the smartest man, but because of the belief that his intellect was able to know everything, and also because of the idealistic image of a democratic society created in his mind, he was absolutely sincerely mistaken. After all, the image of a democratic society in him was formed from extremely limited in volume of information (and even filtered by whoever needed) from "radio voices", stories of scientists who visited the West. He was a very naive man. One of the scientists said that playing it was not interesting. But he would (I am sure) understand everything about Western democracy. He did not have enough time to live up to the era of its self-disclosure. How did this happen to Zinoviev. That was enough for him. Before his death, Zinoviev said, "We marked in Bolshevism, but ended up in Russia." It seems to me that Sakharov can only be regretted that he spent many years on the wrong thing. On the Nobel would have worked out if he did not engage in nonsense. And about the bombing of Moscow - so it is said, not his words. S.V. Vonsovsky (a worthy man and a great scientist) on the day of Sakharov’s death told how he signed a letter against him, etc., cursed the last words to the booster and his entourage, how they tried to save Sakharov for science. In general, it seems to me that Sakharov was not a traitor. Yes, he was.
    1. Humpty
      Humpty April 15 2013 10: 53 New
      +3
      Sakharov, of course, was a victim of his second wife, a banner, who fell into the history of Soviet forensics on matters far from politics. This is his personal problem, which did not give him the right to pour dirt on the country, the army and protect terrorists. I have no doubt that Kasparov has high intelligence, this does not prevent him from doing all kinds of dirty tricks.
      In his old age, not only Zinoviev revised his views, but also Solzhenitsyn.
  16. Goldmitro
    Goldmitro April 15 2013 10: 22 New
    +1
    Among the endless claims of the West against Russia, disrespect for the laws in Russia, their non-compliance and violation are often noted. At the same time, Western-funded NGOs themselves are “in no hurry” to comply with the law adopted in Russia regarding their law, although it is no different from the same laws in the West, and some simply refuse to do so. In light of this, Russia is simply obliged to MAKE all these NGOs comply with the law! Maybe then at last it will come to same-sex western gameocrats that Russia is not some kind of banana republic, that the LAW begins to rule in Russia and it is one for all, including for all sorts of toad-like common people who are simultaneously, in addition to the Russian Federation, citizens of several states at once and “working” in the interests of precisely these states!
  17. Belogor
    Belogor April 15 2013 11: 03 New
    0
    Quote: Vanek
    So for the loot and I do not mind screaming. But just yell.

    But what about civic position, principles? Or for the loot you can put them where?
  18. ed65b
    ed65b April 15 2013 11: 25 New
    0
    In general, the branches of the CIA, MI-6, etc. Cover up the sharagu.
    1. Egoza
      Egoza April 15 2013 11: 36 New
      +1
      Quote: ed65b
      In general, the branches of the CIA, MI-6, etc. Cover up the sharagu.

      And the Democracy Research Fund itself is there too! I wonder how many people are "exploring" there. And do you personally need this research, the people, the country? (especially if this Fund is supported by taxpayer money!)
  19. Alikovo
    Alikovo April 15 2013 13: 47 New
    0
    all these NGOs and NGOs are the fifth column.
  20. Alex Nick
    Alex Nick April 15 2013 14: 00 New
    +2
    I think that closing them is not profitable, they will go underground, and so they are in plain sight.
  21. Kozma
    Kozma April 15 2013 14: 42 New
    +3
    The liberals of Russia admire the iron will of M. Thatcher. What a woman. This woman had the will to crush her unions. How lovely! So let Putin have the strength to crush all these NGOs-partisan and terrorist structures of the West on our land. Because, if they are left to exist in the state, they will then explode this state from the inside, as soon as the central government is at least slightly weakened. NPOs are like worms in the human body. Is Putin Weaker than Thatcher Woman? But what about the image of the Slavic macho? SMERSH is in his hands, Russia needs to be restored, and there Ukraine will catch up. The main thing is that Russia grows stronger and is the core.
    1. stalkerwalker
      stalkerwalker April 15 2013 16: 59 New
      +6
      Quote: Cosma
      The liberals of Russia admire the iron will of M. Thatcher. What a woman.

      I agree ...
      “Let's hit thatcherism on the“ swamps ”and Sakharovites!”
      fellow
    2. Navy7981
      Navy7981 April 15 2013 20: 02 New
      +1
      Partisan and terrorist structures of the West on our land.
      I agree, but not partisan, it must be replaced, for example, gangsters!
    3. Tverichanka
      Tverichanka April 15 2013 22: 45 New
      +3
      Quote: Cosma
      . Is Putin Weaker than Thatcher Woman?

      Not weaker. Smarter. And I will explain why. You see, under the law on NPOs, all these organizations should be registered as "foreign agents." And there is a small but significant detail here at any events held by such an organization, as well as in the official correspondence, lecturing, etc. first of all, they are obliged to indicate that they are a “foreign agent.” I hope we don’t have to explain what associations the citizens of our country have with this phrase? Therefore, they resist registration, knowing that under this name it is almost impossible to succeed, much less success mass .... So it turns out that they shouldn’t be specifically prohibited, they themselves will give up. And they will close only those who are not registered. Interesting plug? The choice is zero. Either you are a foreign agent or you are subject to distribution by law.
      1. stalkerwalker
        stalkerwalker April 15 2013 23: 19 New
        +4
        Quote: Tverichanka
        Interesting fork?

        The funny thing is that the "screams and groans" shows Who's Who/
        fellow
  22. elmi
    elmi April 15 2013 15: 17 New
    +7
    Under Stalin, people who received money from a hillock, if not put against the wall, were sent to camps. For a long time it was time to cut off the money supply of NGOs, you see there would be more order.
    1. Tverichanka
      Tverichanka April 15 2013 22: 52 New
      +3
      Quote: elmi
      cut off cash

      Yes, how do you close it? Do you have a ready-made recipe? Almost half of the money comes through embassy channels. Do you know that nobody anywhere has the right to interfere in the activities of embassies? Cargo is not inspected, employees are not checked, and even more so it is impossible interference with financial activities. The embassy is the territory of another state. Therefore, the British can not pick out from the Embassy of Ecuador Assange, there are no such powers. And you say, block ... This is not a water supply system.
  23. jjj
    jjj April 15 2013 15: 55 New
    0
    It seems that the issue has already been resolved by NGOs, and what’s going on about them in the media and blogs is an artistic narrative. The role of NGOs is over. In general, one must understand that when they start to talk a lot about something, then the train has really left. On the agenda is the transfer of the national economy to military rails. Each for himself must clearly imagine: how can he personally help in protecting the Homeland from enemy encroachments. We are not threatened with "Maidan", but partisan sabotage and military operations. And many of the current "true patriots of Russia" are waiting for a signal. Thank God the security service is on the alert.
    1. Tverichanka
      Tverichanka April 15 2013 22: 57 New
      +1
      Quote: jjj
      than he can personally personally

      What are you calling for? Have you come up with yourselves? I’ll answer you so, in our country there is an army, the FSB and many other services (what if you don’t know?) And therefore there is someone to give the go-ahead. And the patriots are always ready. So leave such calls when to myself.
  24. Dante
    Dante Alighieri April 15 2013 15: 57 New
    -1
    Well, I don’t know, fate drove a couple of times with the “follower” of the Voice: a normal person, even a patriot, though very liberal, but it’s obvious that he’s trying not because of money, he just wants it to be better (of course, as he himself understands). Believe me, there is nothing seditious in their programs: fair elections + completion (refinement) of the electoral law - that’s all the main areas of their activity. And all this is only in order to attract as many people as possible to the electoral process, for, and one cannot disagree with this, "elections are the main mechanism of democracy." And nothing more. No unconstitutional requirements for you, no separatism, fascism, terrorism and other obscurantism. Everything is decorous and decent, although it may be in our place in Siberia, but in the capitals everything is different. But as they say: they decided to play democracy - so play honestly or do not fool people. Then everything will be clear, and gentlemen in power, no one will expect anything from you aimed at the development of rights and freedoms.
    So personally I feel sorry for them: naive people believed in a) that we have democracy; b) that Western grants are aimed at really helping the population of Russia overcome the transitional stage of our history and build a civil society. Holy simplicity!
    1. Kozma
      Kozma April 15 2013 17: 02 New
      +5
      Oh, what poor things are these members of nonprofits. In order not to spread too much, I will advise you to take an interest in the Ukrainian media, humanitarian organizations. The benefit of all this goodness on the Internet is enough. A NCO is a boa constrictor: it is picked up quietly - you won’t notice, it wraps around gently - you won’t feel it, it strangles reliably - you won’t break out. For stupid NGOs - this is Yugoslavia, Georgia, Ukraine, Kyrgyzstan. They are just accomplices and gunners in the robbery of their people.
    2. stalkerwalker
      stalkerwalker April 15 2013 17: 28 New
      +6
      Quote: Dante
      So personally I feel sorry for them: naive people believed in a) that we have democracy; b) that Western grants are aimed at really helping the population of Russia overcome the transitional stage of our history and build a civil society. Holy simplicity!

      Very similar to the truth. In my vision.
      Last Monday, ladies from NGOs gathered at Solovyov’s.
      It was a whole bunch! From naive to angry and intimidating (here, "kamikaze in a skirt" advocates of the law of NGOs throat by teeth).
      50% of "members of" these NPOs "didn’t even think" that they were engaged in political activities. It may be so, but the law is the law - pass the check and register ...
      But the "seasoned" defenders of the Democracy immediately "stood on their hind legs," they say - we are no agents! That's the motivation! “And since we don’t consider ourselves agents, we won’t register!” ... Everything very much resembles the conversation of a “gopnik” with an investigator: “... What’s the matter, boss? I didn’t touch that granny — she’s her whole retired ... "
      According to my estimates (offhand), the layout is as follows:
      - 10-15% NKOshnikovs are active "fighters for the non-Christian idea", perfectly aware of whose grandmas they live, what they do, who their boss is;
      - 15-20% of non-profit organizations know what this "foreign money smells like," but they reassure themselves that they’re doing a "good thing for the people";
      - those who remain or are "playing in the dark", or these "remnants" are so short-sighted that they simply do not really understand what kind of "merit" this "manna from heaven" fell upon them.
      And such scandalous NPOs as Memorial, Golos, GFO should be checked first. There will be no doubt that they will be closed - sacrificing the queen, Kasparov’s colleagues will lead their pawns to the last line as a slaughter. And this will be the next topic of hysterical rhetoric in pro-Western media.
      The figures are apart, gentlemen.
      GrosmEister went E2 - E4 ...

      PS Advice "go horse ..." in advance is not welcome.
      hi
    3. Tverichanka
      Tverichanka April 15 2013 23: 06 New
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      Quote: Dante
      So personally I feel sorry for them: naive people believed in a) that we have democracy; b) that Western grants are aimed at really helping the Russian population

      Oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooahoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo You are the address. Do not spend more time processing the local contingent. Nothing will work!
      1. Dante
        Dante Alighieri April 16 2013 06: 55 New
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        Actually, I’m not campaigning for anyone, but I’m saying that I talked with a representative of an NGO and what my impression was, no more and no less. If I decided to conduct propaganda, then you would be choked with neo-communist slogans, such as:
      2. Dante
        Dante Alighieri April 16 2013 07: 01 New
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        So do not shake the air with big words. You do not know me, I do not know you. Just try to carefully read what is written, and not rush headlong after seeing anything other than what you expect. I’m not going to adapt to anyone at all.
  25. APASUS
    APASUS April 15 2013 19: 25 New
    +4
    American Ambassador to Russia Michael McFaul

    And I like this person, he can give this kind of thing ......... Bush pearls are resting !!
  26. Navy7981
    Navy7981 April 15 2013 19: 29 New
    +2
    It is necessary to expand the term - "foreign agent - pest" smile and publish the address of the office location, phone numbers and addresses of employees, as well as from which funds are financed and who oversees. The people should know where and how "benefactors" and fighters for our freedom live. So I think I'm joking or seriously. I'd like to at least throw a stone at the window. Can you imagine what howl will rise? The stone, in a couple of hours, will turn into a nuclear device, which was hardly dragged through the window by the dozens of KGB officers laughing . It is interesting to hear how they will moan and wring their hands. fellow
    1. Tverichanka
      Tverichanka April 15 2013 23: 13 New
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      Quote: Navy7981
      It is necessary to expand the term

      It is expanded as it should. You yourself further in your post listed (apparently not knowing) the requirements of the law on NPOs. True, the law requires some more information.
  27. stalkerwalker
    stalkerwalker April 15 2013 19: 59 New
    +5
    Quote: Navy7981
    and publish the address of the office location, phone numbers and addresses of employees, as well as from which funds are financed and who oversees.

    So what? Great idea! I support - the country should know its "heroes".
    hi
  28. varov14
    varov14 April 15 2013 20: 01 New
    +1
    Ha, the state, naturally ours should start protecting these funds, withdrawing funds - a tithe of funds, enough from them. Well, it’s time for the FSB, following the example of the CIA, to tackle its direct responsibilities - to divide and deflect, naturally not within the country, but in the territory of "friends"
    1. Tverichanka
      Tverichanka April 15 2013 23: 15 New
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      Quote: varov14
      and, the state, naturally ours should start protecting these funds

      Are you a provocateur? And then where such statements come from?
  29. varov14
    varov14 April 15 2013 20: 02 New
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    Ha, a state, naturally ours, should start protecting these funds, withdrawing funds - a tithe of funds, enough from them. Well, it’s time for the FSB, following the example of the CIA, to tackle its direct responsibilities - to divide and deflect, naturally not within the country, but in the territory of "friends"
  30. varov14
    varov14 April 15 2013 20: 02 New
    -1
    Ha, a state, naturally ours, should start protecting these funds, withdrawing funds - a tithe of funds, enough from them. Well, it’s time for the FSB, following the example of the CIA, to tackle its direct responsibilities - to divide and deflect, naturally not within the country, but in the territory of "friends"
  31. varov14
    varov14 April 15 2013 20: 03 New
    0
    Ha, the state, naturally ours should start protecting these funds, withdrawing funds - a tithe of funds, enough from them. Well, it’s time for the FSB, following the example of the CIA, to tackle its direct responsibilities - to divide and deflect, naturally not within the country, but in the territory of "friends"
  32. varov14
    varov14 April 15 2013 20: 03 New
    +1
    Ha, the state, naturally ours should start protecting these funds, withdrawing funds - a tithe of funds, enough from them. Well, it’s time for the FSB, following the example of the CIA, to tackle its direct responsibilities - to divide and deflect, naturally not within the country, but in the territory of "friends"
    1. Tverichanka
      Tverichanka April 15 2013 23: 20 New
      +1
      Doubts have disappeared, you are a provocateur!
  33. 400
    400 April 16 2013 08: 05 New
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    It has long been understood that all these NGOs are conducting preparatory work for various types of coups. They collect information about us with our own hands, so that later we can use it. In my democracy, as a concept no longer exists. There is one word left that the Americans skillfully manipulate.