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Americans went home



For the first time in 69 years, there are no American tanks. On March 18, the United States sent 22 M-1 tanks home, putting an end to the seventy-year US armored presence in Europe.

First time taking part in the fighting during the First World War (1914-18), the tank became the decisive weapons during World War II (1939-45) and continued to dominate the battlefield to the present. The first American tank widely spread in Europe was the 29-ton M-4 with the 75-mm gun. Towards the end of World War II, the 42 ton X-26 with the 90-mm cannon appeared. The 1950-x ton M-44 also armed with a 47-mm cannon appeared in 90-x, and by the end of 1950-x 46-x ton M-60 with a 105-mm gun. Twenty years later, the M-60, which had undergone numerous upgrades, was replaced by a 60-ton and a M-1 with a 120-mm cannon. During these 20 years, the armored power of NATO forces reached its peak, deploying around 6000 tanks in service with the United States and other NATO units in Europe. Currently, most of these tanks no longer exist, they are either withdrawn (like the British, Canadian and American) or disposed of (sold or sold for scrap). Less than 2000 tanks remain and there is not a single American among them.



American forces in Europe have been declining since the end of World War II. By the end of the decade, only about 30 000 American soldiers will remain in Europe. This is a tenth of how many were at the time of the end of the Cold War between 1989 (when most of the communist governments in Eastern Europe collapsed) and 1991 (when the Soviet Union collapsed). The latest 22 tank M-1 are part of two disbanded mechanized combat American brigades.

American troops will not completely disappear in Europe, and most Europeans are satisfied. American troops are guarantors of peacekeeping in that part of the world that brought us one of the most destructive wars in stories of humanity. While Russia complains that the continued arrival of US forces in Europe is a threat to Russia, most Europeans have a more justified fear of aggression from Russia. The Europeans took over most of the cost of maintaining American troops in Europe, since in their opinion this is not a bad place to deploy troops for several years, despite the fact that Russia still has more tanks than the rest of Europe taken together. .



It all started after the 1952 year (after the end of the occupation of Germany). In 1945, Europe had three million American troops armed with more than 5000 tanks in Europe. Over the following years, these troops and armored forces were reduced by more than 90 percent. The cold war began in the 1948 year, but the armed forces in Europe did not significantly increase to the 1950's.



During the Cold War, American troops in Europe grew to 300000 military personnel, two corps, more than six divisions (18 combat brigades), as well as thousands of combat aircraft and helicopters, hundreds of ships and more 1500 tanks. Now there are no more tanks and mostly auxiliary forces remained. A number of infantry and paratroopers remained, but without armored vehicles.
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  1. Vladimirets
    Vladimirets April 15 2013 06: 27 New
    10
    "The first to take part in hostilities during the First World War (1914-18), the tank became the decisive weapon during the Second World War (1939-45) and continued to dominate the battlefield to date."

    The tank is no longer a decisive weapon, priority is given to other types of weapons, the Americans understand this. And the 22 tanks are not able to solve any serious problems.
    1. esaul
      esaul April 15 2013 07: 27 New
      +1
      VLADIMIRTSU

      Greetings, Eugene hi
      Quote: Vladimirets
      The tank is no longer a decisive weapon, priority is given to other types of weapons, the Americans understand this. And the 22 tanks are not able to solve any serious problems.

      Apparently - and this is the same ... But, I’m "ka-atsa" that another factor is not unimportant here. As one of the heroes of "6 shots" says, "... And I have a lot of money on my account ..." The Americans now have less money on their account. Hence, such tricks - either the tanks will withdraw, the main al-Qaeda person involved will be postponed "for later" ... Dengofff is not enough ... laughing
      1. Vladimirets
        Vladimirets April 15 2013 07: 56 New
        +3
        Quote: esaul
        The Americans now have less money on their account. Hence, such tricks - either the tanks will withdraw, the main al-Qaeda person involved will be postponed "for later" ... Dengofff is not enough ...

        Valery, hi
        Money is also an important thing, I suppose that the maintenance of these 22 pieces of Abrams did not bite off a military pie.
        1. hrych
          hrych April 15 2013 13: 44 New
          +5
          The only positive moment of detente, earlier in the confrontation between Varshdog and Nato, the main hostilities would be in Europe and the old woman, where the main white population of the planet, would have no chance to survive. Now, thank God, the war will be in Asia, where there is enough meat. By the lack of prospects of the tanks, many are greatly mistaken when they observe how Iraqi tanks got mad and how the elephants rummaged around in the Syrian shop. The tank is especially effective during a nuclear conflict, when the armor protects against all types of damaging effects of a vigorous explosion.
    2. Phantom Revolution
      Phantom Revolution April 15 2013 08: 49 New
      +4
      Look at the Iraqi company, the tanks there just played an important role. It’s just that if a country doesn’t have air defense, it is being hollowed from the air and everything, if any, then tanks are a very important component.
    3. JonnyT
      JonnyT April 15 2013 09: 11 New
      +2
      The tank is no longer a decisive weapon, priority is given to other types of weapons, the Americans understand this

      Her .... the tank will decide for a long time ..... And the Americans do not have just money and most importantly there is no fuel and lubricants to contain them!
  2. valokordin
    valokordin April 15 2013 06: 32 New
    0
    The Americans will be returned to Europe, amid the growing aggressiveness of Russia, which wants to capture Ukraine, invade Eastern Europe, regain control of East Berlin, their departure is a disaster. If the United States does not have money, our oligarchs should be thrown off and give $ 2 billion each to the US budget, and Chubais and Vekselberg, who earned tens of dollars from breakthrough nanoinventions, 5 billion green from them. Hello everyone.
    1. Lord of the Sith
      Lord of the Sith April 15 2013 12: 36 New
      +1
      Hello, is it some kind of trolling or what was it?
      1. Phantom Revolution
        Phantom Revolution April 15 2013 19: 31 New
        0
        Quote: Lord of the Sith
        Hello, is it some kind of trolling or what was it?

        It’s just that the patient of Chamber No. 7 did not get a sedative, right now they will inject him and he will again have the type of top.
    2. evgenii67
      evgenii67 April 15 2013 15: 46 New
      +2
      Quote: valokordin
      The Americans will be returned to Europe, amid the growing aggressiveness of Russia, which wants to capture Ukraine, invade Eastern Europe, regain control of East Berlin, their departure is a disaster. If the United States does not have money, our oligarchs should be thrown off and give $ 2 billion each to the US budget, and Chubais and Vekselberg, who earned tens of dollars from breakthrough nanoinventions, 5 billion green from them. Hello everyone.

      you apparently didn’t finish something, for example JOKE
  3. mojohed
    mojohed April 15 2013 06: 33 New
    +4
    The news is not bad. Europe has already started disarmament for about 10 years. Tanks were recognized as ineffective even by the British - pioneers of tank building. Western logic is that from modern weapons: aircraft, missiles, RPGs, etc. there is no defense, and the tanks will be just targets on the battlefield that will die in the first hours or days of the armed conflict.
    Thank you, we, the Chinese and other Asians, do not adhere to this point of view, understanding that in our open spaces it will not be possible to create dense curtains of infantry with powerful anti-tank weapons, and maneuverable defense is simply prescribed by people like us. Without tanks, it makes no sense to hope for military operations within the framework of the doctrine of conducting combined arms combat introduced by us.
    The so-called so-called popularity is starting to gain more and more popularity. light armored forces. These are brigades equipped with cars with mounted weapons (grenade launchers, mortars, air defense systems, etc.), armored personnel carriers with light weapons: a gun from 20 mm. up to 40 mm., assault rifle, machine gun of a single caliber, as well as wheeled armored vehicles with towers having powerful guns from 105 to 120 mm. - wheeled tanks. Apparently Europeans are betting on this army.
    Let’s hope that we don’t have to compare the effectiveness of counteracting such mobile Euro-forces with Russian or CSTO tank wedges, if any, at all.
    1. Avenger711
      Avenger711 April 15 2013 08: 20 New
      0
      In general, any bottom level of Africa or Latin America.
    2. Olegovi4
      Olegovi4 April 15 2013 17: 20 New
      +1
      In principle, it is precisely such "light" brigades that are needed by the Europeans. They have many roads, and good ones. And we cannot leave caterpillar movers. By the way, the refusal of tanks, in my opinion, indicates that they are not going to "visit" us. Anyway, bye.
  4. Vanek
    Vanek April 15 2013 06: 35 New
    +3
    As the saying goes:

    - Baba with a cart, the mare is easier.
  5. explorer
    explorer April 15 2013 06: 48 New
    +1
    Well now, the managers in our Moscow Region will be able to sell the released RPGs, etc. hi
  6. explorer
    explorer April 15 2013 06: 48 New
    0
    Well now, the managers in our Moscow Region will be able to sell the released RPGs, etc. hi
  7. svp67
    svp67 April 15 2013 08: 14 New
    +3
    The news is positive, but it’s not worth relaxing, as they “left” and can “return”.
  8. Trailer
    Trailer April 15 2013 08: 22 New
    0
    For that, there are more Americans in the Middle East, which is also not good!
    1. Kaa
      Kaa April 15 2013 08: 49 New
      +1
      Quote: Karavan
      Because there are more Americans in the Middle East, which is also not good

      Yes, but there’s another question - Eurojihad is being discussed on the next branch, along the way, the mechanism is up and the Americans are going to sit out overseas in case of interfaith storm in Europe ...
    2. Bigriver
      Bigriver April 15 2013 08: 57 New
      +2
      Quote: Karavan
      For being americans getting bigger in the middle east.

      It’s getting smaller.
      Amers leave Afghanistan, Iraq. At the end of 2012 - the beginning of this year, they radically revised the problem of Syria and Iran.
      Support for certain forces in the region will continue, but the number of armed forces in this area is declining. The policy of meddling in the Middle East affairs itself has been greatly adjusted with the advent of Heigel in the Moscow Region. It seems that the amers, in general, here refused the possibility of engaging ground forces.
      But the Asian-Pacific vector is loaded.
  9. Trailer
    Trailer April 15 2013 08: 22 New
    0
    For that, there are more Americans in the Middle East, which is also not good!
  10. pinecone
    pinecone April 15 2013 08: 25 New
    +2
    They will never leave Germany. Some forces, even "symbolic" ones, will definitely remain there, because The global financial kagal needs to constantly remind the Germans who their boss is in their house.
  11. HAM
    HAM April 15 2013 08: 27 New
    +4
    The most interesting thing is that Europe started all wars, and now it is afraid of Russian aggression. When did Russia aggress? When the "stigma" is down, its own shadow is scary. And so the good Yankees will come and protect the "orphans".
  12. Krapovy32
    Krapovy32 April 15 2013 08: 28 New
    +3
    Yankees, go home laughing
  13. slavik_gross
    slavik_gross April 15 2013 09: 16 New
    +1
    Good riddance Yanka Yankee ...
    1. Lord of the Sith
      Lord of the Sith April 15 2013 12: 55 New
      +1
      Yes now, no tablecloths. Either pit or ditch (Japanese together laughing )
  14. Hey
    Hey April 15 2013 09: 27 New
    +4
    In my opinion, the Yankees are tricky. Across Europe, almost for free, they were pleased with their Abrams, such as for safekeeping. The latest example - Greece received 400 tanks. In which case the amers will easily increase their tank potential by returning the "donated". Of course I didn’t read their agreement, but I have such confidence. For even the boil on the pope just does not jump up.
    1. Bigriver
      Bigriver April 15 2013 10: 17 New
      +1
      Quote: MUD
      ... amers easily increase your tank potential, returning the "donated" ..

      What about the scrap metal that fought in the Persian Gulf in the 90-91th year? laughing
      It’s cheaper to donate than to dispose of. With the condition that a person happy with a gift will take it out for his grandmother repeat
  15. sergius60
    sergius60 April 15 2013 11: 25 New
    +2
    We are all discussing the quantitative composition of weapons here. Completely losing sight of the actual PROBLEMS with the manning of crews and, in general, the fighting forces of THEM. 75% of the possible conscription contingent from the United States does not "roll" for reasons of the criminal past (read - moral and ethical compliance) and educational level. Ended "Americans." That is the main problem. What we observe at home negative in the development of society, they already have a "cheerful and fun" passed stage. You cannot form an ARMY out of "office plankton" and "shnik". Got Game lol
  16. sergius60
    sergius60 April 15 2013 11: 25 New
    +1
    We are all discussing the quantitative composition of weapons here. Completely losing sight of the actual PROBLEMS with the manning of crews and, in general, the fighting forces of THEM. 75% of the possible conscription contingent from the United States does not "roll" for reasons of the criminal past (read - moral and ethical compliance) and educational level. Ended "Americans." That is the main problem. What we observe at home negative in the development of society, they already have a "cheerful and fun" passed stage. You won’t form an ARMY out of the "office plankton" and the "chm0-shniks". Got Game lol
  17. knn54
    knn54 April 15 2013 12: 20 New
    0
    As both US-Iraq wars showed, Iraqi anti-tank artillery successfully shot the Abrams, and they could do almost nothing in return.
    In Germany, its scrap is enough
  18. knn54
    knn54 April 15 2013 12: 20 New
    -2
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    1. Papakiko
      Papakiko April 15 2013 21: 47 New
      0
      Quote: knn54
      Karabaza Nikolay Nikolaevich

      Apparently FAT and BURNER ended, or after yesterday, "bad", if so, "suffered." wink
  19. Kozma
    Kozma April 15 2013 13: 10 New
    +1
    Because US tanks left Europe, NATO did not become weaker. Priorities in modern warfare are shifting towards precision weapons, strike systems and, of course, air forces. The United States considers modern warfare as a whole, similar to the initial period of the Barbarossa blitzkrieg operation - instantly suppressing the enemy’s air force and air defense during the initial period of hostilities, further gaining superiority in the air and further defeating the enemy’s forces with their air forces and means. At the moment, the United States does not have such a need to keep weapons on the continental part of Europe near the borders of Russia, which was relevant 70 years ago, during the Great Patriotic War. At the moment, the United States has found a completely different nature in the defense of Russia. Comprehensively, this gap is called "Gorbachev and Yeltsin" - "Look for the weak and make him the Chief Executive of the entire system. Look for the strong and support him in the fight against the weak Chief." The United States approaches Russia through the back Cyrillic, so that everyone understands. And in this case, tanks are not helpers.
  20. Varies
    Varies April 15 2013 13: 14 New
    +1
    The Cold War did not start from the 48th year, already at 46m it was fought in full swing, but it still started at 45m when we sensed that we had created the nuclear bar in advance of the Russians.
  21. Bashkaus
    Bashkaus April 15 2013 22: 29 New
    +2
    I’ll honestly say that if an abrams trample on me, smoke a cigarette, stopper for courage and crawl to meet a bunch of grenades, but if at least the homosexual squad runs on me, then I'm sorry, I will blow myself up (((
    So there is a weapon worse than tanks ((
  22. Stasi
    Stasi 30 September 2013 21: 24 New
    0
    The fact that the Americans withdraw their aviation and armored vehicles from Europe is certainly good. But the main thing is not this, but the nuclear weapons that they still hold in Europe. When they take him with them, then it will be possible to talk about the departure of the Americans, but for now all this is just the movement of troops.