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Turkish MRAP are late

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Turkish MRAP are late



Four years ago, the Turkish army ordered 468 locally developed and manufactured by MRAP Kirpis (with enhanced mine protection). All of them should have been delivered last year, but 175 machines have not yet arrived. The Turkish National Police are also awaiting Kirpis shipments. The manufacturer of these machines, BMC, is experiencing financial and managerial difficulties, and the Turkish government, and in turn, told BMC that if deliveries are not completed soon, the order for the undelivered equipment will be canceled and transferred to another Turkish company (for example, Otokar ) or even a foreign supplier (for example, MRAP offers very cheap used American cars).



Kirpis is an 16-ton armored truck with a wheel formula 4x4 that looks very similar to a MRAP made in a number of other western countries. Kirpis has a tower, a crew of three, and can carry ten fighters or a ton of cargo. Turkey is trying to buy as much local military equipment as possible. Kirpis passed all its tests, and the army believed that it had made a great deal. Despite possible difficulties in canceling orders for MRAP from a Turkish company, the army would like to receive these MRAPs in case of failure of the current peace talks with Kurdish rebels.
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  1. valokordin
    valokordin April 15 2013 06: 35
    -5
    Why should the Turks have outlandish bronics, let them buy our KAMAZs from us at the expense of savings in Syria, they will not regret it. All Kurds will run away in fear.
    1. Ivan Tarasov
      Ivan Tarasov April 15 2013 06: 47
      +4
      Kurds should not be touched.
      If Turkey resolves the Kurdish issue, then its geopolitical ambitiousness will grow even more.
      And she is already high, look, where are the fighters trained for the war with Syria?
      So, let the Kurds hang over the Turks with the sword of Damocles, and we will put our "Typhoons" better than Syria.
      1. UFO
        UFO April 15 2013 07: 44
        +3
        Then let the Kurds buy it. laughing
      2. bask
        bask April 15 2013 07: 46
        +1
        Four years ago, the Turkish army ordered 468 locally designed and manufactured MRAP Kirpis (with enhanced mine protection). All of them were supposed to be delivered last year, but 175 cars have not yet arrived. Turkish

        Turkey did not independently develop more than one MPAP armored vehicle. Everything was purchased from South Africa or provided by Amers. But MPAP production is carried out at Turkish enterprises, with 100% components, of local production.
        Russia urgently needs the issue of MDI in 13 hundreds of pieces in the North Caucasus.
      3. ayyildiz
        ayyildiz April 15 2013 10: 21
        +2
        Quote: Ivan Tarasov
        So, let the Kurds hang over the Turks with the sword of Damocles, and we will put our "Typhoons" better than Syria.


        Not tired of paying for free? Raise the pension of the elderly to a living wage!
        1. Yeraz
          Yeraz April 15 2013 10: 42
          +1
          Quote: ayyildiz
          Quote: Ivan Tarasov
          So, let the Kurds hang over the Turks with the sword of Damocles, and we will put our "Typhoons" better than Syria.


          Not tired of paying for free? Raise the pension of the elderly to a living wage!

          Why a pensioner dies, it’s better to go abroad. Moreover, the current generation of old people don’t put anything at all, went mad yesterday, drove an old woman into the subway, and no young one got up, as a result, the tariff for her age was inferior to her.
        2. Ivan Tarasov
          Ivan Tarasov April 15 2013 17: 50
          -1
          Then there may not be pensions at all, as well as countries.
          Is it not clear that Syria is now fighting for Russia?
    2. ayyildiz
      ayyildiz April 15 2013 10: 17
      +1
      We are already buying energy from 25 a year from you, so buy from us the more you have Typhoon until you have entered the series
  2. Ivan Tarasov
    Ivan Tarasov April 15 2013 06: 38
    0
    Our Typhoon looks more impressive.
  3. mojohed
    mojohed April 15 2013 06: 42
    +1
    Given the Kurdish issue and the influence of Iran and Syria on it, Turkey has no choice but to take measures to minimize possible damage from terrorist attacks and attacks on its posts and military units. However, as it was indicated 2 years ago in one of the Western publications, “Turkey would need to create a large network of powerful checkpoints, similar to the Russian ones in the Chechen war, in order to keep the Kurdish regions under subordination and control. real contact between Kurdish rebels and Turkish forces, Turkey could try to reduce the likelihood of its losses in the future.
    It should also be noted that MCI is effective, primarily in open desert areas, plains, but in the mountains, impact can be expected not from below, but from the flanks or rear, however armor of such vehicles from different angles will not be able to protect the crew from portable heavy weapons. Even the same RPG-7s will be able to bring the machine-MPAP into an unfit state.
  4. Ah1ll
    Ah1ll April 15 2013 07: 37
    +1
    Let them buy our "Gazelles" and that's all))
  5. pinecone
    pinecone April 15 2013 08: 04
    +2
    ... locally designed and manufactured

    Translated into Russian - "domestic production". The Turkish defense industry is developing rapidly and the Navy is not the only developer and manufacturer of such equipment. OTOKAR confirmed its readiness to deliver the missing number of similar machines by the end of this year, which it continued to develop despite the fact that initially in 2009. the customer chose Kirpi ("Hedgehog").
    1. Yarbay
      Yarbay April 15 2013 08: 29
      +3
      You are absolutely right!
      I understand that 300 cars are in the army!
      I don’t think that a big problem for Turkey!
      1. ayyildiz
        ayyildiz April 15 2013 10: 03
        +6
        Within a month, production will begin for a new one, Kirpie has already proved himself in military operations, and not a single dead
  6. Yarbay
    Yarbay April 15 2013 08: 28
    0
    I understand that 300 cars are in the army!
    I don’t think that a big problem for Turkey!
  7. slavik_gross
    slavik_gross April 15 2013 09: 18
    -1
    Here are the dreamers of the Ottoman Empire ...
  8. xetai9977
    xetai9977 April 15 2013 09: 28
    +4
    Quote: slavik_gross
    Here are the dreamers of the Ottoman Empire ...

    Moreover, the empire. The country strengthens the army and develops the military-industrial complex. And you are immediately an empire ...
  9. Yeraz
    Yeraz April 15 2013 10: 20
    +6
    Pointless infa, out of 486 311 were delivered, more than half of the deliveries were completed and another local company is ready to deliver everything else on time. And the title of the article is such a feeling that the deadlines have passed a long time and now such a universal bummer.
    1. ayyildiz
      ayyildiz April 15 2013 10: 26
      +3
      The components have long been ready for all machines. The workers' strike was on and everyone was late for it!
      1. Yeraz
        Yeraz April 15 2013 10: 38
        +1
        Quote: ayyildiz
        The components have long been ready for all machines. The workers' strike was on and everyone was late for it!

        And how much does one such car cost?
        1. ayyildiz
          ayyildiz April 15 2013 10: 59
          +3
          about 350-400.000 dollars
  10. ayyildiz
    ayyildiz April 15 2013 10: 38
    +3
    TSAMTO, 8 April. The leadership of the Turkish defense industry expects to expand its influence in the region of South America, after certain niches were won in the countries of Asia, Africa and the Middle East.

    According to the Janes Defense Weekly, 10 of Turkish companies are planning to take part in the Latin American aerospace and defense technology exhibition LAAD-2013, which will be held in Rio de Janeiro (Brazil) from 9 to 12 on April.

    In the Turkish pavilion, which is organized by the SSM Secretariat of Defense Industry (Savunma Sanayii Mustesarligi), the leading Turkish military and technical equipment manufacturers, including MKEK (Makina ve Kimya Endustrisi Kurumu), Roketsan, Otokar Sanunay Otomar vetomar (Otokar), will present their exposition ) The latter company plans to introduce wheeled armored vehicles "Arm" and "Cobra".

    Turkish Deputy Defense Minister Hassan Kemal Yardimci intends to attend the exhibition and hold talks with Brazilian Minister of Defense Selso Amorim.

    In May 2012, Selso Amorim and his Turkish counterpart Ismet Yılmaz signed an agreement of intent, the purpose of which is to expand cooperation in the defense industry. S. Amorim plans to visit Turkey at the end of April 2013, at the head of a delegation, which will include representatives of the defense industry and the armed forces.

    According to the SSM representative, the possible areas of cooperation with Brazil could be programmable radios, ground-based air defense systems, the modernization of diesel-electric submarines of the Brazilian Navy U-209 / 1400, the integration of UR CIRIT and UMTAS on board EC-725 or A-29 helicopters " Super Tucano. "

    A number of Turkish companies have already concluded several contracts in the region. For example, MKEK supplied several 120-mm heavy mortars of the HY-12 aircraft of Colombia, and Aselsan Elektronik Sanayi ve Ticaret delivered radio and telephone communication equipment to the aircraft of Uruguay.
  11. Ruslan_F38
    Ruslan_F38 April 15 2013 10: 58
    0
    Good news))
  12. Ruslan_F38
    Ruslan_F38 April 15 2013 10: 58
    0
    Good news))
  13. gorkoxnumx
    gorkoxnumx April 15 2013 17: 25
    0
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6E2lG65ZVP8
    I'm not sure, but in my opinion the video just contains the data of the armored car.
  14. gorkoxnumx
    gorkoxnumx April 15 2013 17: 26
    0

    I'm not sure, but in my opinion the video just contains the data of the armored car.
    1. ayyildiz
      ayyildiz April 15 2013 18: 44
      +1
      I am this Iranian and everyone who shot this video and shot at conscripts and they blew them up like a rat hiding behind stones all of them mother, wife, sister, etc. e .... l

      and the deployed car is not Kirpie
    2. Yarbay
      Yarbay April 16 2013 07: 49
      +3
      Quote: gorko83
      I'm not sure, but in my opinion the video just contains the data of the armored car.

      With these dogs then it happens!


    3. Yarbay
      Yarbay April 16 2013 07: 56
      +2
      terrorists know that we’ll get them out of the ground !!







      Allah yardimchiniz olsun!
      Shehidler olmez, Veten bolunmez!
  15. xetai9977
    xetai9977 April 16 2013 09: 37
    +5
    ALLAH düşmənlərimizə lənət eləsin
  16. ayyildiz
    ayyildiz April 16 2013 12: 01
    +2
    What is proposed in exchange for Kirpie