Why Putin does not notice the villains?

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In Samara, panic among pensioners. A terrible thing - the executive director of OAO Kuznetsov, Yury Yeliseyev, did not manage to take over 3 on April, and then, on April 6, Anatoly Chubais himself “entered” the city and began to agitate to invest in nanotechnology. Incredulous pensioners rushed to banks to withdraw deposits just in case.

The Samara region stands on specific things - the auto industry, the aviation industry, the chemical industry, rocket and aviation engine building. But in one fell swoop, one personnel decision to fill up the basic enterprise for the province - have already passed. For Samara aircraft manufacturers, Eliseev’s departure is a tragedy. And for the entire aircraft industry too.

Spring exacerbation

Since April 4, this post of the executive director of OAO Kuznetsov has been occupied by typical clerk, member of the board of directors of the company Nikolay Yakushin, who previously worked in Roskosmos structures. His speeches are more suitable for United Russia conferences. And the professionals remained at a loss:

- Yakushin spoke for two hours - nobody understood anything. Remember Gorbachev - “To begin, to entice, to accelerate ...”

Hurry, fussing managers nest Medvedev. The beginning of April showed that the “Manturians” decided to finally finish off the aircraft industry. Otherwise, why were they forced to throw a statement “on their own” on the table by a single professional engine builder Yuri Eliseev.

Recall that the entire Long-Range Aviation of the Russian Air Force depends on the engines of OAO Kuznetsov. It is well known that a strategic enterprise under the yoke of endless reforms has been bent over the past decade, and with it the “strategists” readiness has fallen. For many years, plans for a state defense order and for supplying gas pumping stations to Gazprom have not been fulfilled. In 2008, the flight tests of the innovative NK-93 aircraft engine were frustrated. Scored billions of rubles in debt. Aircraft engines and Gazprom aggregates taken from the military for repair and modernization disappeared in an unknown direction.
Finally, in November, 2011 appeared the rarest reason to rejoice over the competent personnel decision of the United Engine Building Corporation (UEC) and the Ministry of Industry and Trade - they removed the “terminator” N. Nikitin from Kuznetsov and appointed Yuriy Eliseev, a respected professional engine builder in the industry. Eliseev at Kuznetsov had to start with crap toilets and correct the predecessor personnel policy. They say, he came to 10-th workshop, there they make the most difficult automation for rocket engines. In front of him a polished boy in boots shuffles around.

- Who are you? - asks Yuri Sergeyevich.
- Master!
- Where did you work before?
- In the restaurant.

It is clear that after this dialogue a real master appeared in the workshop, and not someone's protege. Yuri Yeliseyev managed to halve the company's losses in just one year - from 730 to 362 million rubles. Revenue increased from 2,6 billion to 4,4 billion rubles. He has always believed that there are no technical barriers to the implementation of plans. There are still designers and engineers who can solve the most ambitious tasks. Only the time factor and the absence of financial leverage can interfere. When he came to an executive director at Kuznetsov, he immediately said that in a few years it would be the best and most modern enterprise in the industry. And began a mad job.

For the first time, the plan for the state defense order was fulfilled, little by little they began to pay off debts, production started to rhythmically, the design potential of the enterprise began to recover. The NK-33 rocket engines for Russian and US space programs are being tested and transmitted to customers. There are real plans for new aircraft engines. It seemed about to be returned under the wing of the flying laboratory — to complete the tests — the NK-93 high-powered aircraft engine promising the unique efficiency — Russia simply does not have another “breakthrough” project in this area.

This suggests only two options for understanding the situation. The first, that the illiterate (in the sense of professional training) pests from the Ministry of Industry and Trade and the UEC (I never believe that such key decisions are passing by the profile minister) decided that “the moor did his job, the moor can leave” - it's time to free up a warm place for another rogue with iphone. Everything is clear here - it smelled of money. These villains do not know that the iPhone critical technologies do not raise, then the identity and knowledge of the subject required. The second option is even more vile - the situation does not suit the enemies of the country, that the once mighty enterprise begins to rise from the ashes, confuses secret plans for the collapse of the industry. Why scare Washington with new engines for missile carriers? So did not agree.

Cornered

There was already a rally in support of the manager at the plant - 450 people went against the criminal stupidity imposed from above. Samara workers, engineers, designers, technologists write an appeal to the Kremlin - there is a “king-father”, he will judge: “... We ask you to pay attention to the opinion of the 11-thousandth collective of the enterprise: leave Yu.S. Eliseev as the executive director of OJSC KUZNETSOV.

But letters of appeal of similar content to V. Putin’s name for the presidential administration are not newsthere were a lot of them. Therefore, the collective has one way out - to be not a herd controlled by swindlers, but to put in place the liquidators of the technological, economic and defense potential of the country themselves. Judging by the letter, Kuznetsov workers are not all the same. And there should be support - it’s not for nothing that the president headed and blessed the movement with the many saying title “Popular Front”. We are sure that the Governor of the Samara Region Nikolai Merkushkin will support us. He has already confirmed by deeds that his main task is to ensure the growth of the industrial potential of the region. And then he had a knife in his back.

For comparison - GAZ Group shows record growth. This week Dm. Medvedev with blessing blessed a new model in production - the GAZel NEXT. And why? Yes, because the president of the company since 2009 has been working as a world-renowned specialist in the automotive industry, Swede Bo Andersson. Although the "Varyag", but very effective. Only in the aviation industry are efficient and decent leaders not in court.
When V. Masalov (a personnel financier!), General Director of UC United Engine Corporation Corporation, declares that he does not see prospects at Kuznetsov, he deliberately lies or does not understand anything at all in real business.

In addition to the production of modernized engines for strategic aviation, Russian Railways will be handed over the second gas turbine carrier in May, when ordering such unique locomotives of record thrust-bearing capacity on the 2020 before the 40 year. More about 200 pieces want to get India. The new strategic missile carrier PAK DA for long-range aviation, will require new engines. French from Superjet on it you will not put. Gazprom is supplied with 25-megawatt gas pumping stations, new, even more powerful ones are being developed. There are many more engineering tasks that can be solved in Samara. And the illiterate crooks from state corporations and the Ministry of Industry and Trade prefer to bury theirs in order to pay in hard currency to the same Siemens. This is how money is squandered - instead of ordering the Kuznetsov plating line in Tambov for 640 million rubles, “accountants” from the UEC buy in the West for 1 billion 700 million rubles. How can we raise industry if gentlemen prefer to finance production in Germany or the Czech Republic?

Personality and antipodes

What is not acceptable Yuri Eliseev? He is too independent. Minister D. Manturov blamed even the fact that “The Arguments of the Week” did not abandon the topic of the NK-93 aircraft engine. We generally tried not to mention his name in connection with this development, information about the situation at the enterprise was taken from other sources. So we were asked by everyone who was interested in taking Eliseev’s enterprise out of a death pike:

- Minister Manturov is vindictive by nature, do not touch Yuri Sergeyevich now, so as not to harm.

We did not touch. But they still got it - chiefs-merchants from the UEC ordered to sell one of the two industrial sites of OAO Kuznetsov for commercial development. Yeliseyev perfectly understood what it means to bury Samara as the center of aircraft engine building and turn into a regular repair plant. It is at SNTK that the entire scientific and design base, unique finishing and test benches are located. Naturally, Eliseev refused to execute the wrecking order. Yes, even at a meeting with Prime Minister Dm. Medvedev honestly reported on the actual state with the conclusion and financing of the state defense order - the quarter has already passed, and the bins are empty. In addition, the officials have already announced the “strategic task” - from 82 thousand engine manufacturers leave 19,5 thousand. The prime minister, once again showing “state wisdom,” and this was swallowed: “I think that the situation in the engine industry is not bad.” And then Eliseev could not stand it, spoke:

- There is still no contract on state defense order (it was at the end of February). And in November, it will already be necessary to account for its execution.
Making aircraft engines is not a small-sized rivet; the production cycle of one takes months. Stop the conveyor, and then cut the switch and run on the new will not work. Piece specialists, if they run, cannot be replaced by yesterday’s schoolchildren:

- If you deceive people once more, then you can not spin the flywheel of production. And how Moscow scoundrels need such a truthful person? Conclusion - remove it is dangerous. Suddenly, NK-93 will lift onto the wing, what then to do? It turns out that when the chairman of the Federation Council, Valentina Matvienko, called the KLA “thief,” she assigned the same title to the adjacent JDC. Valentina Ivanovna ought to stand up for Eliseev. If, according to the state, Yury Sergeevich should not be dismissed, but put at the head of the entire UEC, with the broadest powers. Oh, he will be able to make this colossus function effectively, he will find and place the real people at key points.

Colonel-General Anatoly Sitnov made the personnel policy in the aircraft industry a long time ago diagnosis:
- Assign a "neznaek" - people who can only carry out orders for the manipulation of financial flows. Destroy those who are able to generate ideas and implement them. It is known that even one true professional often determines the development of an entire industry. In practice, purposeful work is being done on decapitating the aviation industry, which will lead to a natural result - stagnation and incapacity.

Remember the great movie "Chairman"? There, Yegor Trubnikov, obsessed with work (his role was played by Mikhail Ulyanov), the collective farmers defended. And who stood by the mountain to protect Yuri Eliseev? Littered, wrote a letter to the president and calmed down. And behind this peace and indifference is the fate of the country and its ability to speak on equal terms with “partners” all over the world. Everything that the gang of managers does is in no way connected with the organization of the production of competitive products in Russia. It is not surprising that the main topic for conversations among sociologists and financiers at the head of the high-tech industry remains Cyprus offshore. The state corporations are turning, despite the high-quality PR, into a latrine where our money and expectations dissolve. Managers have forgotten that the prefix "state" means "our everything."

And this is a betrayal and undermining the country's defense capability. I wonder where the Manturovs will run when the American Drones start circling over the Kremlin?

Why Putin does not notice the villains?
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  1. -36
    April 14 2013 07: 47
    He is weak head.
    1. +36
      April 14 2013 07: 58
      Quote: My address
      He is weak head.


      good afternoon hi Forgive me, who did you mean? If - Putin, then I have no choice but to post a smiley to your address in response to your "mind" fool
      As for the situation with the Samara enterprise, I understand the pain of the author of the article, I support his efforts and appeals for support, to save the native plant, but (in response to the mournful posts in the spirit of "everything was gone!") I think it's premature to sprinkle ashes on my head. Most likely, the situation has not yet reached the level of intervention of the First Person. The fact that Eliseev was forced to put the statement on the table does not mean that "the resignation has been accepted." In general, nothing changes in the sublunary world ... An analogy comes to my mind with butting Sukhoi with Antonov when he was in the USSR. There the same - the legendary "weaving" of Sukhoi was lost because of the banal nepotism of Antonov with the top officials of the state, and the dry was "dropped", despite the mass of advanced technical solutions used in the "weave".
      And yet ... It is difficult for us (many here - on the site) to judge everything that happens at the described enterprise, what undercover combinations are played out there. But, nevertheless, I believe that we should collectively support the appeal of the Aviadvigatel team and ask the Administration on our behalf to send the appropriate letters (call it what you want), both to the team and to those structures on which fate and successful operation of an enterprise vital for the country.
      Good morning everyone! hi

      A day has passed and now - 0.45 Novosibirsk. Dear Colleagues ! Those who supported my comment! I thank you and, as you see, more of us! More than those who look at life with optimism and faith in the best. It is you who provide the necessary human support to those processes that will bring our country to a decent level. It is you who, without whining and evil hissing, work every day. It is you who deserve a better future and, I am sure, we will have it. Good luck to you guys. And for today - good night! hi
      1. +36
        April 14 2013 08: 45
        Pay attention to the work of Putin. He is again engaged in what was in the first presidency - corruption, forestry, mega projects such as Sochi (EXPO-2020), affordable medicines, etc. Thank God, that cooled to the special economic zones, Medvedev would have cooled. What's this? Signs of a manager? I myself am a production manager, not an office manager or even a supervisor, and with such effectiveness I will trample, but rather I will quit myself with shame. How to deal with thieves and idlers I know and can and successfully fought in dangerous 90. True, workers steal trivialities, but the leaders and the nut on the M5 will not revolt - and they are ashamed and afraid. Slackers or re-educated or persecuted.
        1. +14
          April 14 2013 09: 00
          Quote: My address
          Pay attention to the work of Putin. He is again engaged in what was in the first presidency - corruption, forestry, megaprojects such as Sochi (EXPO-2020), affordable drugs, etc.

          Oh, how I agree with you ...! wink Of course, it would be better if he was engaged in what he drank, dissected around the country, as they say - "traded face", hung out on foreign tours and would pay less attention to the activities of the Chubais-Serdyukov-Naval-Kasparov
          How dare he do to strengthen the country and strengthen the economy! This is not presidential!
          And you talk about 90 very colorfully. Girls like to listen to it from their boyfriends very much - about the life of their admirer full of danger. But, here, after all, people look at everything a little differently.
          1. Patriot of Russia
            +11
            April 14 2013 10: 30
            Why Putin does not notice the villains?

            Yes, it's just a very profitable business. not notice the villains, not notice theft.
            people do not notice
            1. 0
              April 14 2013 15: 21
              Quote: Patriot of Russia
              Why Putin does not notice the villains?

              Yes, it's just a very profitable business. not notice the villains, not notice theft.
              people do not notice


              A very profitable business is sitting in the forum and screaming with a good obscenity that everything is gone. Win-win, in your forehead you can continue to yell. In one case, he was right, in the other that corruption. etc. If you have something to say, say it, but if you squeal, it’s better to shut up.
          2. +31
            April 14 2013 11: 16
            Quote: esaul
            How dare he do to strengthen the country and strengthen the economy! This is not presidential!

            Does he do this? Then please indicate in which place. The science? Education? Medicine? Industry? Strengthening the economy? lol you probably mean the construction of oil and gas pipelines to drive even more raw materials abroad? Serdyukov and Vasilyeva deserve to be shot, but what do we all see? Comedy Chubais, who has done so much trouble for Russia, his mother still breaks everything that he is trusted to lead.
            Gagarin flew into space 16 years after the end of the war, after which the country was in ruins! Putin has been steering the state for 13 years, feel the difference. Here I am constantly reading the comments of Putinofilov, and of course I'm sorry, but I get the impression that you have bad eyes because you see what is not there and you absolutely do not see what has become.
            1. WS
              +5
              April 14 2013 12: 16
              Gagarin flew into space after 16 years, it was a fear of a repetition of the Second World War, who is now afraid? Shoot Serdyukov and Vasilyev? We have a democratic state, say the tyrant. And so along the way, the firing squad will also have to be shot
            2. +8
              April 14 2013 12: 24
              Quote: Letun
              Gagarin flew into space 16 years after the end of the war, after which the country was in ruins!

              Then the country was independent.
              Quote: Letun
              Putin has been steering the state for 13 years,

              Well, not 12, but 9 years, to be precise. And he does not "rule", but so far only overcomes Russia's dependence on the world hegemon. It overcomes on the whole successfully, otherwise our foreign "friends" would not have organized a permanent persecution of Putin on an international scale, and in Russia too, including on this site "mishandled bought Cossacks "... Guess who ...
              1. Dim Dim
                +16
                April 14 2013 14: 22
                Yes, Putin is overcoming addiction, only from whom? Judging by his inaction in putting things in order even on the revealed crimes, he cannot overcome the dependence on the Yeltsin team, which nominated him from scratch for the first night, and then for the presidency. When Serdyukov is imprisoned and hanged on the red square of Chubais, I may believe that the president is overcoming something and is skmeto fighting, but for now. There is no trust in him!
                1. +5
                  April 14 2013 22: 20
                  No need to shoot and hang anyone, you need to hit the dearest to them - confiscate the stolen goods from the country.
              2. +3
                April 14 2013 15: 15
                Quote: Nick
                on this site there are "sent purchased Cossacks" ... Guess who ...

                Well, apparently, all those who do not sing hosannas to Vladimir Vladimirovich laughing
                Okay, I'll run to the car dealership, for the money that the State Department Maybach paid me to buy wassat
                1. d_trader
                  +3
                  April 14 2013 15: 38
                  Yes, it is not necessary that the state department pays you, it is rather leisurely and systematically to do brainwashing through the media, not to show objectionable materials, to clear out the truth, to sow lies and voila! Putin is bad everyone else is no better and in general everything is bad! Here is the doctrine of our TV and not only it. As a result, we have what we have: stupid young people who are not interested in anything and brainwashed by the majority of the population who do not want and do not want to understand the essence. Well, it looks like you are one of them and this is in the best case (if the State Department does not pay you) After all, they said to us: Don’t be interested in politics, politics is a dirty business. Look at the videos in the YouTube of Evgeny Fedorov and for God's sake just don’t write that he is a provocateur of a liar and an inventor, or please, arguments with calculations that you do not agree with. I advise you to look if you are from the first category of those listed, then it will be worthwhile, if you have the striped flag in your hands and know that everything has its beginning and its end, and Russia has been and will be!
                  1. +4
                    April 14 2013 20: 17
                    Quote: d_trader
                    As a result, we have what we have: stupid young people who are not interested in anything and brainwashed by the majority of the population who do not want and do not want to understand the essence. It looks like you are one of them and this is at best

                    Well, calling me youth, you undoubtedly compliment me laughing
                    But calling a stranger a person stupid at best, you, it seems to me, expose your intellect in a bad light.
                    And yes, I wonder what kind of media you are watching? I mean those where they say that:
                    Quote: d_trader
                    Putin is bad everyone else is no better and in general everything is bad!
                    Here is the doctrine of our TV and not only it.

                    As I understand it, we live in different countries? Here in Russia, in all news releases, Putin and Medvedev have just literally not been kissed in the ass (probably the guards are not letting this close). And as I understand it, the only way to find out how people live in Russia, in the place where you live, is really to draw information from your media, but for me, for example, just go out, visit relatives in the hospital, go to the factory where I work, communicate with the gentlemen of the police who will stop my purchased with the money of the State Department Maybach lol And now, based on the totality of information received in such a simple way, my love for Vladimir Vladimirovich for some reason stubbornly strives for zero. I would be glad to love my president, honestly, but somehow it doesn’t work out crying
                    1. d_trader
                      -2
                      April 14 2013 21: 04
                      I did not call you youth, do not flatter yourself, and the word dumb does not apply to you, do not distort. What the news shows is half cut out. He says that they don’t show on the box. They simply leave neutral information. Do you not understand this? For your information, I also live in Russia. Distract yourself a little from the cliches and you will see an amazing picture and in some places even scary believe me. Through the looking glass. Once again, I advise you to carefully look at Evgeny Fedorov. Want to assemble a jigsaw puzzle? Follow my advice.
                2. +2
                  April 14 2013 21: 32
                  Quote: Letun
                  Well, apparently, all those who do not sing hosannas to Vladimir Vladimirovich

                  Do not guess. Those who throw shit-mo at the fan ... wink
              3. +11
                April 14 2013 15: 30
                Quote: Nick
                Overcomes generally successfully, otherwise our foreign "friends" not organized Putin's permanent persecution on an international scale

                Maybe this is a double game? GDP criticized in the West to make it seem their in Russia, among the people who are a fighter with the West, so that they stay in power longer?
                1. +7
                  April 14 2013 21: 22
                  Quote: elmi
                  Maybe this is a double game? In the West, they criticize the GDP so that it would appear to be its own in Russia among the people who are a fighter with the West,

                  Glad you're trying to analyze. Try to analyze the situation further. Putin launched the construction of new nuclear submarines, new ICBMs and air defense systems, new models of military equipment PAK FA, Su-35, Su-34, Ka-52, Mi-28, etc. are being created in the country, new platforms for armored vehicles, "Armata" , "Kurganets", etc. That is, Putin, in fact, makes Russia stronger both militarily and economically. Politically, Russia, together with China, is blocking Western initiatives on Syria at the UN. Does the West like all this ?, I don't think so. They, IMHO, do not need a strong, independent Russia, and therefore do not need the initiator of these changes in Russia - Putin.
                  1. +7
                    April 14 2013 22: 15
                    Quote: Nick
                    Glad you are trying to analyze.

                    Why am I trying? everything is obvious - I suppose, but not affirm. It’s just somehow guarded, or perhaps surprised: that somehow before the election, the rating of GDP and the party of United Russia began to fall rapidly, maybe people really got tired of the monopoly of one party, and so on TV on the central channel we showed a documentary about Putin shot by English reporters! that is, from England and GDP was in it in positive tones. This surprised me very much. After all, the West constantly scolds our power, GDP and Russia as a whole, what is happening now, but then it was quite the opposite and right before the elections. So, a thought flashed through my mind - the assumption that before the elections in England they were preoccupied with a possible change of power and issued a report of a good character.
                    Quote: Nick
                    Try to analyze the situation further. Putin launched the construction of new nuclear submarines, new ICBMs and air defense systems, new models of military equipment PAK FA, Su-35, Su-34, Ka-52, Mi-28, etc. are being created in the country, new platforms for armored vehicles, "Armata" , "Kurganets", etc. That is, Putin, in fact, makes Russia stronger both militarily and economically. Politically, Russia, together with China, is blocking Western initiatives at the UN. Does the West like all this ?, I don't think so. They, IMHO, do not need a strong, independent Russia, and therefore do not need the initiator of these changes in Russia - Putin.

                    I agree with you that what makes the GDP I like, but what happens: "the head does not know what the hands and feet are doing?" I mean that there is a contradiction - GDP revives Russia, and most of the environment is harmful. And it’s hard for me to believe that the top official, the PRESIDENT, cannot put things in order: to plant Serdyukov, Chubais, Gorbachev and other traitors, because Lukashenka has put things in order, he can. We are all patriots of Russia and we want its prosperity, but why are they drummed into our heads that only the current government is capable of fixing and reviving everything? was 12 years not enough? We have many capable politicians of the level of Primakov, but they will not give them power.
                2. anarch
                  0
                  April 14 2013 22: 58
                  Can. smile

                  -Monya, why are you kidding me?
                  You say that you’ve gathered in Berdichev,
                  so I thought that you wave to Odessa,
                  and in the meantime you’ll go to Berdichev.
                  smile
                  1. +3
                    April 14 2013 23: 15
                    Quote: anarh
                    -Monya, why are you kidding me?
                    You say that you’ve gathered in Berdichev,
                    so I thought that you wave to Odessa,
                    and in the meantime you’ll go to Berdichev.

                    Time will tell who went where. The truth is somewhere near... wink
              4. 0
                April 14 2013 22: 17
                12, not 9 under Medvedev, he was in power.
            3. +7
              April 14 2013 12: 37
              Quote: Letun
              Here I am constantly reading the comments of Putinofilov, and I'm sorry of course, but I get the impression that you have bad eyes because you see what is not there and you absolutely do not see what has become.

              It's just that they are already zombified by the sycophantic pro-Putin media. Now what do the people want? "Have fun with taste", "Have fun with friends" and stuff like that ... Freedom to drink, smoke, shoot up, mow from the army. Democracy, eprst!
              1. djon3volta
                -6
                April 14 2013 13: 03
                Quote: Colonel
                pro-Putin media

                and not the pro-Putin media, what kind of media is it? and the main thing is what is being printed there? do you find out what kind of media is in Russia? What cares more about who, where and how much has stolen, or where something new is open, done, built?
              2. +3
                April 14 2013 21: 22
                COLONEL

                Greetings Andrew hi Something you began to bypass with your comments articles concerning the personality of Putin. I'm already thinking - what happened? Or got sick (to this you can answer in the spirit of Putin - "Can't wait!" laughing ), or what kind of adventure happened? But no. Everything is still. As before, you prefer not to see other people's successes (in this case, the President’s affairs) point blank; you prefer to stop other people's achievements (again Putin’s) with dirt, but as soon as the conversation touches on your personal affairs and merits, then here everyone should kneel before you. I remember how you crucified, describing your talents and achievements. It goes without saying! wink
                Quote: Colonel
                Yes, they’re just zombified by the pro-Putin Lisoblu media.
                Fuck with him - with some kind of DMB, take him seriously ... But, you are the editor! A man with more than one education and a handshake from the teaching staff (after all, they themselves were proud to broadcast that!), And suddenly again you rush to the beaten, dragged-out insults ... Ay-ah-ah!
                1. -2
                  April 14 2013 21: 38
                  Quote: esaul
                  Greetings, Andrei Something you began to bypass the articles concerning Putin's personality with your comments. I'm already thinking - what happened? Or did you get sick (to this you can answer in the spirit of Putin - "You won't wait!"), Or what else happened?

                  Yes, he just stopped funding from a foreign agent ... and now it goes again ... bully
                2. 0
                  April 14 2013 22: 51
                  Quote: esaul
                  So you began to bypass comments on articles relating to Putin’s personality.

                  Greetings opponent! fellow For me, his personality is extremely clear, so I do not consider it necessary to once again spread the thought ... The fact that He introduced personnel lawlessness in the rank of state policy, none of the sane will not deny. What this bacchanalia turns into for the country is also understandable.
                  Further. I have already given below instruction to the commander: "If you cannot prevent drunkenness, lead it." It's the same with corruption! He is the leader of it. Either the blind or his idolaters cannot see this.

                  Quote: esaul
                  and suddenly again rush to the beaten, dragged-out insults ... Ay-ah-ah

                  And I don’t think it’s shameful, I even like (I’ll not hide) to quote quotes, aphorisms, etc. The importance of the media in the formation of public opinion, the creation of the right mood, the upbringing of certain qualities in people has long been understood by politicians. "Give me the media, and I will turn any nation into a herd of pigs." (Goebbels) Is he wrong here? And vice versa: "A newspaper is not only a collective propagandist and agitator, but also a collective organizer!" (V.I. Lenin)
                  I perfectly remember the general orientation, mood, tone, style of the Soviet media, and I see what the current ones are doing (with rare exceptions). It’s hard to find normal words for their characteristics ...
            4. +5
              April 14 2013 13: 09
              Letun
              And you yourself belong to what ... filaments or just labels on others blurt out
              for review http://sdelanounas.ru/

              We wondered why Chubais has been at the top for so long, who so carefully protects him, instructs and does not really think about the "omnipotence" of Putin V.V.
              Speaking of omnipotence. Why in 1929 Trotsky was expelled from the country by the "almighty bloody" Stalin I.F., and not spread simply and without hassle, subsequently so much effort was spent by Beria and Sudoplatov, to add an ice ax to the right place of Trotsky by Mercader in 1940, why was put off for 11 years.
              Quote: "All in good time", from a very wise book.
            5. +3
              April 14 2013 21: 01
              Quote: Letun
              Then please indicate in which place. The science? Education? The medicine? Industry? Strengthening the economy?

              I understand that you, a colleague, can look at least at the video clip that Nevsky suggested today, or you are one of those who throw beads in front of you - it's a dead matter.
              Quote: Letun
              Serdyukov and Vasilyeva deserve to be shot, but what do we all see? Comedy Chubais, who has done so many troubles for Russia, his mother still breaks everything that he is trusted to lead

              the same - the cheapest trick from the cage of pissing all the polymers - to scratch out a couple of facts "testifying to the connivance of the authorities to corrupt officials" and recklessly stick them through the word ... You look - and it will scrape up on "breadUSHOK" ...
              Quote: Letun
              Putinofilov,

              An interesting find! good So you are Putin FOB? In general - all sorts of different phobias, this is a sign of a pathological violation of one of the areas of the human psyche. Sorry...
              For me, this is tantamount to the current Russian liberal.
              Quote: Letun
              but I get the impression

              It has been said more than once that impressions are a subjective substance and can carry a false interpretation of current events if they are not based on a factual basis. It seems to Baran that his main enemy is the gate, not the cook ...
              Quote: Letun
              and you don’t see at all what has become.
              And I think that you put on the glasses of the cat Basilio and just do not want to see anything, except that you read in the blogs of all this neoliberal gopota.
              1. -2
                April 14 2013 21: 43
                Quote: esaul
                you are one of those to whom to throw beads - a dead matter.

                Beads are inedible, pigs like acorns, especially green ones ...
              2. 0
                April 15 2013 12: 34
                Damn, that’s what I haven’t read to myself already from gentlemen of the fans of the Great and God-Like laughing It turns out that I am both "stupid zombie youth", and a corrupt Cossack woman, and a pig in front of whom throwing pearls is not a noble cause, and a ram, and a pathological psycho, and even a cat Basilio smile Well, actually the level of opponents defending our charismatic leader is revealed. It is even more strange to read such reviews from the generals and marshals of this site.
            6. NOBODY EXCEPT US
              0
              April 14 2013 23: 52
              Another option ..... have access to the feeder ...
            7. NOBODY EXCEPT US
              +1
              April 14 2013 23: 53
              Another option .... have access to the feeder ....
            8. 0
              April 19 2013 19: 37
              Yes, the campaign is not Comrade Putin, rather Mr. Putin.
          3. +8
            April 14 2013 11: 41
            Quote: esaul
            How dare he do to strengthen the country and strengthen the economy! This is not presidential!

            I also respect Putin. But what considerations make him keep Chubais and Dimon-iPhone for so many years, I cannot understand. Inexplicable. I can't believe the fairy tale about the fact that these are "effective managers", I can only laugh, and even then it is "bitter".
          4. +5
            April 14 2013 12: 26
            Quote: esaul
            Of course, it would be better if he was engaged in what he drank, dissected around the country, as they say - "traded face", hung out on foreign tours and would pay less attention to the activities of the Chubais-Serdyukov-Naval-Kasparov

            "Ostap carried"
            That is what Putin is doing; trades a person (there is no news broadcast without the main TV star of Russia), dissects the country; Sochi, the Urals - on skiing, the Far East - on viburnum, As well as everywhere on fighters, flying tanks to extinguish fires, hang gliders, submarines and ships, combines and horses, and even on foot for ringing snow leopards.
            Well, when is it here:
            Quote: esaul
            to strengthen the country and strengthen the economy
            ??
            Of course, the president should not pay attention to Chubais-Serdyukov-bulk-Kasparov’s activities, since one cannot pay attention to a square ball and a seven-legged five-member. This is a field of activity for psychiatrists from small (and very guarded) psychiatric institutions.

            Quote: esaul
            And you talk about 90 very colorfully. Girls like to hear from their boyfriends very much - about the life of their admirer full of danger

            Then tell us about the vibrant, full of dangers and adventures activities of GDP in St. Petersburg in the 90's. How he worked there to strengthen the country and strengthen the economy by attracting German banks. The lights from Ivanov will be very pleased, but:
            Quote: esaul
            here, after all, people look at everything a little differently
            1. dmb
              +4
              April 14 2013 17: 40
              Listen, well, you correspond to your nickname. It is pointless to discuss with the "police officer". The other day, in one of the comments, a gradation of ode singers was given, according to which a truly Orthodox gentleman and a Catholic-American nickname was classified as impassable Putin, and the sergeant as meaningful. for both, and all arguments in disputes boil down to labeling opponents and shouting slogans. I remember that Esaul spoke about the superior wisdom of the leader, shown by him when he appointed Serdyukov. After the well-known events, he delicately avoids this topic, but until there is a court decision on the case.
          5. Heccrbq
            -9
            April 14 2013 12: 27
            General Field Marshal, you are a zombie id-ot, but on "you" this is because you are probably 25 years old maximum, another question for you, are you in the "Our" movement?
            1. djon3volta
              -3
              April 14 2013 13: 08
              Quote: Heccrbq
              are you in the movement "Ours"?

              everyone who voted for Putin or praises him, automatically means Nashi? and pensioners are also Nashi? etozh how many millions of Nashi people in our country? 40 million Nashi people, out of 107 million who have the right to vote in the elections. Well, I’m 100 poods Nashi, the main nashist on this site)))
              1. -3
                April 14 2013 21: 48
                Quote: djon3volta
                everyone who voted for Putin or praises him automatically means nashi? and pensioners are also nashi? etozh how many millions nashi in our country? 40 million nashi

                Such, Eugene, are not friends with logic ...
          6. Heccrbq
            -1
            April 14 2013 12: 42
            By the way, Field Marshal, says something like that, first name and surname --- Marina Salier, now deceased? Here's to you about the art of your idol!
            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oilv2u5b5og&feature=related
            1. djon3volta
              -3
              April 14 2013 13: 12
              Quote: Heccrbq
              Marina Salier, now deceased?

              during Salie there was a real hunger in St. Petersburg. when they gave her a kick, the people at least stopped starving, so she got angry at Putin.
              1. rolik
                +11
                April 14 2013 13: 42
                Quote: djon3volta
                , so she got angry at Putin.

                Greetings!
                Dissatisfied with GDP. Covers corruption, liber, weak leader.
                Good .... now questions.
                When was it better now or in the 90s ???
                Who do you see as president ????
                Everyone has the right to answer these two simple questions in their own way. My answer to these questions is this.
                1- I'm better now than in the 90s. When we waited for 6-7 months. When there were no orders, and everyone was as smart as he could in order to earn a penny. When the blue drunk coming to my city confused him with Astrakhan. What the fuck ... that president was. A drunken reptile, who has corrupted everything, has left all our secrets to the boys from the CIA and made them their advisers. I don’t think Ivy as a condom. He is simply the keeper of the chair, planted in it during the absence of the owner. Papa Zyu, he sold everyone in 1996, surrendered his victory to a drunk of the year. Preferring to sit out in the rear, in a warm place. And do not answer for anything, but only criticize. Now we have enough work, even overtime has appeared. We work as usual and it pleases. I don’t want in the 90s, I don’t want the first people in the state who do not need anything except a bubble and an iPhone, who speak the right words about equality and brotherhood, and at the same time sell their people for seats in the government.
                And the last question, who (at the moment) would like to see the president? Call me this person. I really want to know.
                1. 0
                  April 14 2013 15: 00
                  Quote: rolik
                  Who do you see as president ????

                  I would like Primakov E. M.
                2. +5
                  April 14 2013 15: 04
                  Quote: rolik
                  And the last question, who (at the moment) would like to see the president? Call me this person. I really want to know.

                  I would like Primakov E. M.
                  1. itkul
                    +1
                    April 14 2013 16: 30
                    Quote: elmi
                    I would like Primakov E. M.


                    But not too old, yet 83 of the year, it’s time for him to think forever, and not about Russia
                    1. rolik
                      +6
                      April 14 2013 17: 24
                      Quote: itkul
                      And not too old, yet 83 years old,

                      Unfortunately Primakov, a stray man. To lead the country, these are huge, mainly on the nervous system, loads. And besides, Primakov is exactly the man who just happened to be in his place. Foreign policy is his hobby. Presidency is a slightly different topic.
                      1. +7
                        April 14 2013 18: 30
                        Quote: rolik
                        Foreign policy is his hobby. The presidency is a slightly different topic.

                        Of course he’s elderly, but in terms of the presidency, I think that he is better than Medvedev
                      2. anarch
                        +1
                        April 14 2013 23: 14
                        Why Medvedev?
                        You can compare with Yeltsin.
                      3. +5
                        April 15 2013 10: 52
                        Quote: anarh
                        Why Medvedev?
                        You can compare with Yeltsin.

                        There is no Yeltsin, but Medvedev was in power, it would be better if Primakov was in place of Medvedev
                    2. +7
                      April 14 2013 18: 22
                      Quote: itkul
                      But not too old, yet 83 of the year, it’s time for him to think forever, and not about Russia

                      Unfortunately, too old, 20 years to slow down and just right
                  2. 0
                    April 14 2013 21: 52
                    Quote: elmi
                    I would like Primakov E. M.

                    Great candidate! Only he did not put her to the polls, unfortunately ... Maybe age?
                3. +10
                  April 14 2013 18: 52
                  I would like to see A. Lukashenko President of the Union State.
                  1. +1
                    April 14 2013 21: 54
                    Quote: sergey32
                    I would like to see A. Lukashenko President of the Union State.

                    Yes, but he cannot be de jure president of Russia.
                4. 0
                  April 18 2013 22: 05
                  Quote: rolik
                  When the blue drunk coming to my city confused him with Astrakhan. What the fuck ... that president was. A drunken reptile who has corrupted everything, has given up

                  It’s insulting that this drunken GDP was awarded the highest order of the Russian Federation, it didn’t send the main redhead privatizer to hell, it doesn’t interfere and actually covers thieves and traitors. And all that, he will solve these problems in good faith and for the citizens of the Russian Federation, he will be the BEST PRESIDENT. Look and read, there are questions to him, why doesn’t he?
            2. +2
              April 14 2013 21: 35
              Quote: Heccrbq
              Field Marshal

              Quote: Heccrbq
              last name


              Yes, the Russian language is strong ...! Evolves relentlessly.
              I heard something ... And - what? Recognized international authority? For me, this pro-liberal madam is the same as you (the same - to YOU ​​- because you won't understand otherwise.), Who is used to debating over a bottle of beer in the company of the same intellectuals who skillfully blurt out "drove" each other ...
          7. +4
            April 14 2013 17: 02
            And how much money has already been stolen in Sochi. It’s too early for us to deal with such projects.
            1. +2
              April 14 2013 21: 56
              Quote: Deniska999
              And how much money has already been stolen in Sochi. It’s too early for us to deal with such projects.

              Yes, in our 91st country was stolen! And you are Sochi ...
              1. 0
                April 19 2013 21: 12
                So now everything is being stolen in a new way, and how! To the question from the title - because he himself is! A raven-raven, as you know, the eye will not hatch.
          8. yak69
            +7
            April 14 2013 18: 05
            Quote: esaul
            it would be better if he was engaged in what he drank, cut across the country, as they say - "traded face", hung out on foreign tours and would pay less attention to the activities of the Chubais-Serdyukov-Naval-Kasparov

            Interesting note, however!
            The whole country is already tired of his (pu) "occupations" chu-se-na-kasparov (as you call them). The result of his studies is visible everywhere and everywhere - in the government (the appointment of a bear, Livanov, Manturov, Medina, the same Stouretkin), the movement of odious figures from chair to chair, a tremendous scale of stealing that has never been seen before! And with impunity. Or, the bear's suggestions "a fine for the stolen state money in a hundredfold amount, but not more than 500 million rubles." those. stole 5 billion rubles, paid 500 million rubles and live on! Stepashka from the joint venture proposes not to imprison the thieves - "let them work, they work out the damage!" I just want to exclaim "" you are all o * ueli or something !! "". Pour it in your eyes, you are all God's dew!
            Koznokrad steals on the goats and steals, and PU is always good !!
            I propose supporters of PU to be considered accomplices of a state crime!
            No more no less.
            It is with your approval and your support (supporters of PU) that our country continues to slide into the abyss.
            1. 0
              April 14 2013 22: 20
              Very sensible and timely comments, all the way .. considered an accomplice in a state crime!
            2. anarch
              +1
              April 14 2013 23: 24
              By the end of the 90s, there were some debts in the treasury.
              And now there is something to steal, and it falls a little on the military-industrial complex.
              Progress, however.
              "Only due to oil"
              Maybe.
              But there was oil in the 90s.
        2. +8
          April 14 2013 12: 32
          Quote: My address
          He is again engaged in what was in the first presidency - corruption,

          All warriors know the joking wish to the commander: "If you cannot prevent drunkenness, lead it." The same is true in the case of corruption! Here He heads it. Where are the pros and experts in the government ?! There are almost none! Almost at all "grain places" in industry, the banking sector, etc. - protégés of GDP and LADIES. Professionals, especially honest ones, are squeezed out from everywhere! Corruption is now the system of ruling Russia!
        3. +9
          April 14 2013 13: 51
          I do not know what you are in charge of, and how, but let's start in order: Putin's business is to manage manually from the timber industry, then the fish industry, then what else? Why does he have the Administration, the Government, many officials? If they do not comply with his decision, "put a spoke in the wheel", take bribes, put non-professionals instead of masters of their craft in the "bread places", steal money (and almost openly), and at the same time still manage to seem "white and fluffy" in the declaration then what is it? Weakness of the President? Inability to lead him? Fearlessness of officials of all levels and faith in their infallibility and constancy? Rather the latter! The president is trying to do something, the investigating authorities almost every day catch embezzlers and bribe-takers, laws are passed to tighten financial discipline in the sphere of public procurement, but the class of officials is so strong that it cannot be overcome immediately and overnight. This will take years. And for this, the President needs to step over "himself," and publicly sacrifice his own nominee, hold a couple or three demonstration trials, and give terms up to life, so that others think: "And I can be next!", And began to work honestly and for the good of Russia. This concerns officials, so to speak. The second is the newly minted production owners who appeared after the voucher privatization. How many factories and factories they have brought to bankruptcy, not knowing how to manage and not knowing production, just to snatch money, and there "grass does not grow", at best we will demolish and build a shopping center, and we will cut the rent. An example of such thoughtless leadership is my factory. My plant has always been managed by people from the team, who went through the school from foreman to general director. The production is complex, it combines steel, metalworking, assembly production, high-tech products operating all over the world, including the USA, Japan, Germany, and many other countries around the world. As a result of the actions of these "effective managers", 15 thousand remained from the plant with the number of over 1,8 thousand people. We can no longer produce some types of products, although before their arrival we were monopolists in certain types of heavy engineering. Like this . For one thing, it would be necessary to deal with such "effective managers" who ruin the Russian machine building.
      2. +28
        April 14 2013 08: 52
        Chubais’s visit is a bad omen. Usually ends with scrap metal.
        1. S_mirnov
          +12
          April 14 2013 10: 21
          "Why doesn't Putin notice the villains?" - A raven will not peck out a crow's eyes!
        2. +12
          April 14 2013 12: 31
          Quote: Kohl
          Chubais’s visit is a bad omen. Usually ends with scrap metal.

          Why Kvachkov didn’t receive crying !!!
      3. S_mirnov
        +11
        April 14 2013 10: 25
        "Excuse me, who did you mean? If - Putin, then I have no choice but to post a smiley to your address in response to your" mind "- but in vain, if the GDP really ruled the country, then it would be time to put storks on the wing and he wouldn't have had a TV show every day! Governing the country is a colossal workload, and daily piaction takes up a lot of time.
        And it doesn’t matter what kind of leader he is. his goal is not to protect the interests of Russia (citizens of the Russian Federation).
        1. +15
          April 14 2013 11: 15
          Quote: S_mirnov
          GDP really controlled the country, then he wouldn’t have time to put storks on the wing and arrange TV shows every day!

          I agree with this. I watched here recently on TV about a meeting on the forest in Buryatia, how he dragged two businessmen there and connected them by telephone with Kiriyenko to solve some problems. They showed them on Channel 5. Seeing this, I have no respect left. I think that those who are engaged in the image of the president and conduct such television PR companies are very close-minded people.
          1. 0
            April 14 2013 14: 45
            Are you an expert in this field? It seems to me that this PR company is hinting at the separation of the pro-American government and Putin, as the leader of the national liberation movement. In my opinion, everything is logical. Or do you consider a member of the Government of Lebanon and Putin like-minded?
            1. +4
              April 14 2013 19: 23
              Quote: Shtynsky Dwarf
              This PR company is an allusion to the separation of the pro-American government and Putin, as the leader of the national liberation movement. In my opinion, everything is logical.

              While Putin led the national liberation movement in the Kremlin’s catacombs, US President Obama submitted the candidacy of Prime Minister Medvedev to the Russian Duma for approval.
            2. yak69
              0
              April 15 2013 01: 06
              Quote: Shtynsky Dwarf
              Or do you consider a member of the Government of Lebanon and Putin like-minded?

              They are not only like-minded people, moreover, they are colleagues! And his direct proteges. Or do you think that the iPhone takes decisions on its own, without coordination with the PU ?!
              Lebanon, Fursenko, Zurabov, Mudko, hermit, Golikova, Taburetkin, Chubais, these are ALL ITS APPOINTERS! What further can we talk and argue ?!
      4. WS
        +6
        April 14 2013 12: 06
        I apologize, but was it Tupolev and Sukhoi "butted"?
      5. slvevg
        +5
        April 14 2013 12: 56
        An analogy comes to my mind with butting Sukhoi with Antonov when he was in the USSR. There the same - the legendary "weaving" of Sukhoi was lost because of the banal nepotism of Antonov with the top officials of the state, and the dry was "dropped", despite the mass of advanced technical solutions used in the "weave".
        As far as my memory serves, butts of Sukhoi and Tupolev were butt, it was Tupolev who had the Kremlin roof. request
      6. -1
        April 14 2013 13: 45
        I recall the analogy with the butting of Sukhoi with Antonov when the USSR was.

        If memory serves, Sukhoi butted on a hundred, not with Antonov, but with Tupolev. This is for clarification.

        And further down the text of the discussion, they were again to blame for everything ... Putin and Chubais. Anatoly Borisovich, in the light of recent events, is probably looking for a new industry for murder. Nothing personal just business. And GDP, perhaps, still does not suspect that it is again to blame.

        The team must fight for the real leader. If they cannot defend what is needed, then this is the leader whom they deserve. Intrigues have always existed, time now in this sense is not original. And the fight against the objectionable is also the same. We are offered to judge the situation by only one article, without getting to know a different point of view.
      7. +1
        April 14 2013 14: 47
        Until it reaches the First Person, there will be nothing to collect, the Russian Post works too poorly.
      8. +3
        April 14 2013 19: 08
        Quote: esaul
        And yet ... It is difficult for us (many here - on the site) to judge everything that happens at the described enterprise, what undercover combinations are played out there. But, nevertheless, I believe that we should collectively support the appeal of the Aviadvigatel team and ask the Administration on our behalf to send the appropriate letters (call it what you want), both to the team and to those structures on which fate and successful operation of an enterprise vital for the country. Good morning everyone!

        ... support 100% !!!
        I have been following the fate of NK for a long time. I declare that NK will not - on long-range and strategic aviation in Russia it will be possible to put a bold cross forever!
        Therefore, it's time to send "effective young reformers" to a worthy crap. Competent specialists, including Y. Eliseev, - to key posts!
        It's time, time is running out!
      9. NOBODY EXCEPT US
        -1
        April 14 2013 23: 41
        Yes, he is a very weak and vengeful dwarf ..... with complexes of Napoleon ...
    2. 0
      April 14 2013 12: 47
      Quote: My address
      He is weak head.

      He is the strongest leader, but one should not think that he holds all the power in his hands! There is Chubais, Abramovich, dozens of others like them and those who stand behind them in the shadows, doing real politics and "business" in this country! GDP is forced to temporarily hold "neutrality" with some of them, avoiding new "swamp" confrontations that are not needed by the country and the people.
    3. audentes
      +4
      April 14 2013 14: 19
      Now they’re putting them all over, the main thing is that the leader should be helpful, fulfill the plan,
    4. Yoshkin Kot
      +1
      April 14 2013 19: 01
      politics art possible, IVS spent 15 years
    5. +1
      April 14 2013 22: 13
      Of course, Medvedev is a weak leader, you have correctly noticed this.
      Quote: My address
      Weak leader
    6. +1
      April 15 2013 02: 46
      Maybe I personally do not know him, but maybe a good specialist, and if the whole plant team is worth something for him?
    7. coast
      0
      April 15 2013 03: 24
      the author, where do you know which grannies they don’t know that the forelock came from, changed the leadership and all the tragedy should be fired for everyone in Samara, what to say the main treasurer is the thief the whole government is in the thieves, diduli sit in armchairs and they don’t let young people teach. I hope something will move with the new governor but not a fact, the mayor of Samara was quickly besieged now even in the city does not appear and yes the roads we have are the worst
  2. +12
    April 14 2013 07: 52
    If Chubais came, then that's it ..... request
    1. +8
      April 14 2013 08: 46
      Quote: tronin.maxim
      If Chubais came then that's it ..

      So it is drawn to the words from the famous song of A. Makarevich "Do you remember how it all began ..?"
      MOSCOW, April 12 - RIA Novosti. The Innovation and Investment Market (RII) sector of the Moscow Exchange has proved its worth for several years of its operation, one of the evidence of this was the start of trading on the RII market of bonds of OJSC Rusnano, said Anatoly Chubais, chairman of the board of the nanotechnology company.
      In the MII sector on Friday, trading opened with all the currently issued bonds of Rusnano series 01-05 with a total par value of 53 billion rubles.
      "In this sense, a heartbreaking conflict is taking place inside me - on the one hand, I am the chairman of the (coordination) council (RII), on the other hand, the issuer. That is why we were ready to move here with our bonds only when we were convinced that this site is already serious, "Chubais told reporters.


      RIA Novosti http://ria.ru/nano_news/20130412/932381948.html#13659147971643&message=resize&re
      lto = register & action = addClass & value = registration # ixzz2QPTj2j5F
      1. +19
        April 14 2013 11: 04
        Mr. Chubais is a very interesting person. Moreover, in fact, the only one remaining in the executive branch since the beginning of the 90's. And he is more an official than a politician (unlike the late Gaidar and the still not quite deceased Nemtsov, they were carried away by the pursuit of political power and lost).
        And the conclusion here is one - Chubais has always coped with the tasks assigned to him. With privatization there were tasks for a song to attach assets - he coped. Moreover, he became extreme at the psychological level. Who's guilty? - Chubais is already at the level of reflexes. The same is with RAO UES. It was necessary to pull apart the company on the sly - it was installed. Everything has been done ... they were taken away by several dozen LLCs, CJSCs and OJSCs. And they say, well, why are you surprised - Chubais ... Something similar is happening under the cover of nanotechnology. Enterprises of interest change ownership and management in someone else's interests. Moreover, the term "nanotechnology" is rubber. No one will say exactly what it is, because it is a very broad concept. And this gives the broadest possibilities for manipulation ...
        So Chubais is the first "effective manager". An ideal (for such realities) performer, devoid of conscience and dignity, thinking only from the point of view of the balance of task execution and his own survival in the system. This is the guarantee of his "longevity". Loyalty and lack of principle.
        1. +9
          April 14 2013 12: 30
          yeah, and he also has a solid tire in the west, it’s not for nothing that in the Bilderberg Club he draws his face, fulfills orders from there.
          Putin doesn’t eliminate him for the same reason, hell knows, maybe he wants to go there but don’t take it, not redhead :-)
          but seriously, the pension fund is empty, the stabilization fund abroad is prohibited by law, more than 95% of large businesses are offshore and do not pay taxes, of course there are no food stamps in the early 90s, but now we don’t have agriculture as such.
          when will all this mess end?
          1. +3
            April 14 2013 18: 45
            This mess can end in collapse ...
  3. Fox
    +24
    April 14 2013 07: 56
    Yes, the Samara region was gouged especially hard when the artyakov was the governor. even that bastard. VAZ milked, "earning" 1,3 billion rubles for the year. And everything that was in the region diligently and consistently destroyed by means of "fictitious managers" from Moskvabad. They flew by charter "to work". A relative of the "great pu" ...
    1. +11
      April 14 2013 13: 23
      They remembered Artyakov correctly! He is now "working" at Russian Technologies. The initiator of the resignation of Yuri Eliseev was the Russian Technologies State Corporation. So this disgusting face with greasy eyes does not forget Samara. I could tell a lot about this gentleman, but the format of the forum does not allow, and you cannot do without a mat feelAnd the opinion of the factory workers, I think, is simply "wiped off".
  4. +19
    April 14 2013 08: 00
    "And what scoundrels in Moscow need such a truth-teller?" - more and more often it is noticed that as soon as the plant is "seized" or bought by Muscovites - then he gets an amba with bankruptcy! They grabbed the capital and disappeared leaving ruins !!! Rot flows into the clean, morally and morally, rivers of the provinces of Russia!
    1. +20
      April 14 2013 08: 41
      Quote: taseka
      Rot flows into the pure, morally and morally, rivers of the provinces of Russia!

      Well, here is the answer to the question Why Putin does not notice the villains?, but what GDP sees:
      1. Mr.Net
        +4
        April 14 2013 09: 18
        half a country is looking for a brightness knob ... wassat
      2. +6
        April 14 2013 10: 03
        Quote: Tersky
        but what GDP sees:

        So that's what Malevich wrote ... laughing
        1. +2
          April 14 2013 13: 25
          Quote: Kurkul
          So that's what Malevich wrote ...
          And Makarevich laughing
    2. +4
      April 14 2013 08: 57
      Quote: taseka
      more and more often it is noticed that as soon as the plant is "seized" or bought by Muscovites - then he gets an amba with bankruptcy!

      This is logical, bankruptcy allows you to forgive everyone the debts accumulated by previous owners, and to kick out your own leadership with minimal costs. you will not pay other people's debts and endure a manager whom you do not trust on your money
    3. Captain Vrungel
      +13
      April 14 2013 10: 12
      Who Putin is and his actions, goals, environment and politics without a screen are clearly visible on Yanukovych copying him. If the first is smart, cunning and treacherous, then the second is stupid, a fool and a scoundrel, and all his actions and politics are out. And so one to one. Culturally and legally, S.Peterburgskaya is seizing Moscow. Our Donetsk brazenly rushing to Kiev and stupidly copies. You have cultured, educated followers of a cloak and dagger. We have lessons from the Zekov academies, fans of the knife and ax. But your goals. And ours are the same. Rightful domination. Your empire means emperor. Our state means hetman. Lukashenko has already built and started a socialist kingdom with all his might against corruption, trying to get into his inner circle. For you and for us, this issue has been greatly neglected and practically out of control of the guarantors. And the rest is one to one. The opposition, a former coalition, but pushed away from the trough and in the eternal struggle for a place. The people of you and of us have long since left and do not pay attention to the floundering in the bank of rival individuals and are busy with their eternal problem of how to survive in these richest states, where millionaires become billionaires faster than mushrooms grow.
      1. rolik
        0
        April 14 2013 17: 37
        Quote: Captain Vrungel
        And so one to one

        Of course, I apologize, but we don’t have the same ass as you. We had such an ass in the 90s.
    4. opkozak
      +2
      April 14 2013 10: 13
      Though a “Varangian”, it’s very effective.


      There would be more such "Varangians". Maybe they would help.
  5. Murat 09
    +12
    April 14 2013 08: 10
    The article is a plus, and the people are rotten now, they rallied and dispersed, but under Stalin he was still a people, like a chairman in a film. Sadly this is (((. I respect Eliseev, like other production workers, but alas, there are few of them. Himself I would like to work at the factory, but we don’t have them (((.
    1. opkozak
      +26
      April 14 2013 10: 16
      The people are asking for a miracle. Well, like that, (to raise the mood of Sunday) bully
      1. +11
        April 14 2013 11: 37
        Quote: opkozak
        The people are asking for a miracle.

        The people of order are asking .... that thieves in jail, murderers in a noose, not to him a miracle ..
        1. opkozak
          +5
          April 14 2013 12: 10
          Quote: Tersky
          The people of order asks .... that would be thieves in prison

          With your lips and honey to drink.
          Indeed my dream is such.
        2. +8
          April 14 2013 12: 34
          Quote: opkozak
          The people are asking for a miracle.

          Quote: Tersky
          The people of order are asking.

          So, if thieves (under the Vorva authorities) are in prison, then this is a MIRACLE!
          1. opkozak
            +9
            April 14 2013 19: 16

            Start simple - stop throwing trash under your feet.
            1. opkozak
              +4
              April 14 2013 22: 35
              I understand that if they are being minus, they are so willing to spit in the elevator, entrance and on the street, to spoil nature, swear at people and throw garbage out of the window.
              It is not without reason that the money spent on topvar. Someone was hooked and his angel wrote a note in his book. All is not lost guys, we will live! And everyone in heaven will have a chance.
        3. stroporez
          -2
          April 18 2013 17: 12
          fairy tales have read))))))))))))
  6. pinecone
    +9
    April 14 2013 08: 15
    "And we have a trouble
    Whether it will still be "/ From a song by A. Pugacheva /

    Well, it doesn’t work out for them. To not take it, everything is as always. However, when money comes first, there can be no other way.
  7. +14
    April 14 2013 08: 20
    Well, what can I say - there are simply no words, some ... However, this is nothing new for me personally. Again "Medvedev's ..." sounded, and everything connected with it is a betrayal! Again, it remains to repeat the question - how long will this ... do its dirty deed? Just recently there was a message that the director of the museum was arrested, but what about "Serdyukov and K"? Silence ... Again, I will repeat someone else's statement: I would trust Putin more if he planted Chubais, .... Serdyukov, "I would add here finally to deal with the ENEMY of the country" Medvedev "and his gang, and also stopped the prosecution of the heroes of RUSSIA Kvachkov, Khabarov and others!
  8. -7
    April 14 2013 08: 22
    In 2008, they thwarted the flight tests of the innovative (!) NK-93 aircraft engine. Scored billions of rubles of debt. In an unknown direction, the aircraft engines taken from the military for repair and modernization disappeared.
    It’s clear what they were doing there ...
    Instead of creating new engines, they continued to procrastinate on the topic of the 80s, and "master" money.
    They drove them out - and they did it right!
    1. Murat 09
      +14
      April 14 2013 08: 26
      Although read the article carefully, it was not Eliseev who thwarted the test, but the "effective maneuver" Nikitin, and Eliseev was appointed in November 2011.
      1. -10
        April 14 2013 08: 43
        They kicked me out, so I did not do the job.
        Weak leader.
        The article itself looks like a provocation.
        1. Murat 09
          +13
          April 14 2013 08: 53
          The trouble is that on the contrary, successful leaders are expelled from us, and Muscovites put loot in their place, and those who are unsuccessful do not drown like shit in an ice hole — an example of Chubais.
        2. -1
          April 14 2013 09: 28
          Quote: Ivan Tarasov
          The article itself looks like a provocation.

          No, you didn’t exactly put it. Not to provocation, but to order.
          They kicked out a white and fluffy, put an evil troll from Moscow.
          1. -4
            April 14 2013 13: 07
            Ordering clean water.
            From abroad, $ 1 billion was allocated for anti-state activities in the Russian Federation, the money was naturally plundered, and in order to somehow report on the "work done", similar opuses are posted.
            They abundantly fertilize with the comments of trolls, and please, the work has been done, the people are led.
            1. +4
              April 14 2013 14: 03
              Quote: Ivan Tarasov
              Ordering clean water.

              If so approach this, then any publication can be called an order.
              Skrynnik, Serdyukov, Vasilyeva, Smetanova, Fursenko, Levanov, Golikova, Nabiulin-all publications that mention these individuals from the negative side of the order of the State Department, this is obtained if you follow your point of view. hi
              1. +1
                April 14 2013 16: 47
                Constructive criticism and indiscriminate groaning with the substitution of concepts are two different things.
              2. 0
                April 15 2013 13: 31
                Quote: baltika-18
                If so approach this, then any publication can be called an order.

                There are no facts in the article, only the subjective opinion of the journalist and rumors that the plant’s staff supports the dismissed director.
                Why can I believe her?
  9. +18
    April 14 2013 08: 24
    Why does Putin not notice the villains? this can be answered with an excerpt from the sermon of priest Sivoldai -
    "... - People! There is a lot that is unknown. There is something that is known only to me, you do not know. There is something that is known only to you, but I do not know.
    - There are tacos that neither you nor I know! ... "
    1. +1
      April 14 2013 08: 55
      mark1
      Greetings, colleague. hi Good answer! Plus big.
    2. +3
      April 14 2013 12: 49
      Quote: mark1
      Why does Putin not notice the villains? this can be answered with an excerpt from the sermon of priest Sivoldai - "... - People! There are many unknowns. There is such that is known only to me, you are not aware of it. There is such that is known only to you, but I do not know. - There is also such, that neither you nor I know! ... "

      In other words, HZ - laughing
  10. -2
    April 14 2013 08: 25
    Peace be to all of you !! It’s really all sad! And where is the FSB looking? Are there really no decent, honest, people among the officials?! PATRIOTS OF YOUR HOMELAND ??? And really, really Vladimir Vladimirovich, doesn’t notice anything ?! it doesn’t seem to work in a very serious office.
    1. Heccrbq
      +5
      April 14 2013 12: 34
      Vitaly Feysy is sitting in Sam oblast, without exception, on a pipe (we have an oil pipeline passing through the region, well, gas and diesel fuel), whoever is lucky, the rest are covering the business, I don’t know about the direct duties, but there are bearded faces with a round headdress on the head of various ages appeared on the street, an incredible amount in general institutions, my Syzran turns into a village.
    2. +3
      April 14 2013 12: 37
      thanks neighing
  11. +6
    April 14 2013 08: 25
    "yes, he is a git and nothing. but this is MY git and nothing." How did they deal with pests under Stalin?
    Ah, men. today is air defense day. happy holiday!
    1. SASCHAmIXEEW
      +8
      April 14 2013 10: 22
      And Happy Holidays to you! The article is correct + BUT why do we always forget the Russian proverb: “The fish rots from the head!” Why does a thief for a billion walks under a subscription, and whoever stole for thousands is immediately imprisoned!? If the authorities do not understand for good, then it is necessary for the bad! And how, you have to think!
  12. optimist
    +11
    April 14 2013 08: 30
    The answer is elementary, he DOESN’T !!! The chairman of a gay club will never choose a normal guy. And the vast majority of our population is so stupid that for more than 1000 years they have not been able to understand this elementary truth ...
    1. SASCHAmIXEEW
      +8
      April 14 2013 10: 31
      Our people are not stupid, just very patient and gullible, but it seems like the bowl will soon overflow! But Putin has something with his head, he really doesn’t understand that he needs to live well in his own country, and not somewhere! But you won’t be able to hide, EVIL will be punished, ice axes are already cooked
    2. +15
      April 14 2013 10: 33
      Quote: optimist
      . And the vast majority of our population is so stupid that for more than 1000 years they have not been able to understand this elementary truth ...

      I welcome, Alex.
      I would not accuse "the majority of our population" of stupidity.
      A significant portion of Putin’s supporters sincerely believe that they are in share.
      They began to pay salaries - cheers to Putin! As if paying a salary for this achievement or feat.
      Credit cars became available - thank Putin! This is how we live richly!
      They ceased to look into the mouth of Western politicians - long live the greatest, no alternative - irreplaceable !!! But this is natural and goes without saying that one must be guided by one’s own interests.
      Most of Putin's supporters just want to live a satisfying and peaceful life. And of course show-off in front of the West is more expensive than money. They don't care that the country continues to be plundered, only now not under the slogans of reforms and entry into European civilization, but under the slogans of a united, powerful state and Eurasianism. They don't care that education, health care and manufacturing are to be crushed; the main thing is that they are now personally paid a salary and "grub in the store is like filth" They don't give a damn that the authorities are on guard for the interests of large olgarhic-thieves' capital, because they began to "dress better" They think that there will be enough oil for their life, gas, sausages, credit wheelbarrows, cut paper and show-off.
      Alas. There was no generation in our country whose share had enough calm, stable times. And now it’s not enough. They just understand this (they want to understand it) by no means all.
      1. optimist
        +13
        April 14 2013 11: 04
        I completely agree with you, dear. I will say more: I, too, now live much better (financially) than under the USSR. But it seems to me that sooner or later even the most utter idiot will have a question, like a famous character from a famous film: "At whose expense is this banquet?" Over the past 25 years, we have "safely" pro ... the future of the country for many generations to come. Everything turns out, as in the famous saying: "We lived happily, but not for long." Looking at what is happening around, you begin to strongly doubt the "chosenness and majesty" of the Russian people, which now resembles pigs in a pen: if only the "owner" poured more slops into the trough on time, and for the rest, we ...
      2. Heccrbq
        +3
        April 14 2013 12: 38
        Fasting to the point, huge plus!
        1. djon3volta
          -5
          April 14 2013 13: 34
          when Putin will destroy Russia and the Russians? you know, I'm glad that Putin destroys me with genocide, and I'm glad that he is ruining the country in the form in which it happens. I can’t wait for the collapse of the country from Putin’s policy. Listen, it's so boring to live like we live, in stability. can we arrange a life for ourselves according to the Syrian scenario? this is where stability is already, 2 years of stability, factories have been working, people are happy, houses and roads are being built, the army is idle .. but let's go to storm the Kremlin and take Putin off! life was under Tolley under Yeltsin, but right now it’s not interesting.
          1. optimist
            +9
            April 14 2013 13: 57
            Hello, naive ... If you think that kissing in the ..opa gdp, we will avoid the "Syrian" and other scenarios, you are deeply mistaken. Someone must pay for 25 years of chaos and ravages of the country. The fact of the matter is that you have to choose between "very bad" and "just p..ts" ... Do you think that under the leadership of the vvp-shnyh vyperdysh we will be able to get out "dry"? I am sure that in a couple of years you will shout the loudest of all: "WFP, on the count !!!". So let's wait ... (Why, nothing else is left for us)
            1. djon3volta
              -5
              April 14 2013 14: 18
              Quote: optimist
              I am sure that in a couple of years you will shout the loudest of all: "WFP, on the count !!!"

              are you Nastradamus or something?
              if you believe that I kiss the GDP in .pu, then the same thing can be said about you - you kiss those who are against Putin. who are Putin's ardent opponents, do you kiss .. logically? in my opinion, yes.
              do you hope that Putin will be thrown off and you will receive compensation for posts and comments against Putin? Do you think this will be taken into account in the future? You are also naive if you think so.
          2. +6
            April 14 2013 16: 36
            Quote: djon3volta
            I am glad that Putin destroys me with genocide, and I am glad that he is ruining the country in the form in which this is happening. I am waiting for the collapse of the country from Putin’s policy.



            Dear John, I read your posts only because no one else can find such a natural, pure and bright idiocy in them. I beg you, do not leave us without your creativity. You are a unique instance that managed to preserve in itself childish naivety, stupidity and spontaneity and was not embarrassed to use them publicly. Take care of yourself, without you, the discussion will become banal and boring for adults.
            B. "Normal"
  13. fenix57
    0
    April 14 2013 08: 37
    Hello everyone. What is it, the division of state property in Russia has begun, or just it seemed. After all, there are persistent rumors about the imminent resignation of the government and, accordingly, the Chairman of the Council of Ministers (let me call this weakness after ours). As long as there is a possibility of "theirs" they are betting to finish off and leave nothing for Russia. This corresponds to a certain plan called the Harvard Project, which includes three stages: "restructuring", "reform", "
  14. mogus
    +11
    April 14 2013 08: 46
    in my hometown there was a factory for the production of woodworking machines. There were only three of these in the UNION ... The administration from Moscow was introduced into perestroika ... some walls and a night club are now there.
    1. Murat 09
      +10
      April 14 2013 08: 56
      correctly noticed, where Muscovites rule, some walls and brothels instead of factories !!!
      1. +5
        April 14 2013 10: 40
        Quote: mogus
        Perestroika introduced management from Moscow

        Quote: Murat 09
        where Muscovites rule

        In the suburbs came Petersburg Putin's appointees-no more that suburbs.
        When you want (well, really want) to kick Moscow, take an interest where are you from your new appointee. You may not be pleasantly surprised ....
        1. mogus
          +3
          April 14 2013 12: 01
          no offense. Then I advise people to explain the difference between St. Petersburg and Moscow. It’s far from here and everything merges into one, it makes no difference to us who bankrupt and closed:
          Steel mill (city, district center)
          Mine (a couple of years already working, but far from the same scale)
          And already voiced machine factory.
          Households smaller, better not say anything ...
          From the European part of the country crushed competitors here.
          1. +3
            April 14 2013 13: 50
            Quote: mogus
            Then I advise people to explain the difference between St. Petersburg and Moscow

            I’ll try, of course, very simplistically and from my bell tower.

            Moscow.
            Big village. In the center of the European and historical part of Russia. Gatherer of the lands. The city is old, more than once burning and rising from the ashes. More than once captured by the enemy and freed by the forces of all of Russia. Populated by people from all over Russia but mainly from the surrounding areas. The royal city, which absorbed the Horde system of power and, in accordance with it, always sought, and found allies and associates.
            A Muscovite always (or almost always) tries to take into account the interests and needs of the population of those places where he has to lead. Since he himself, as a rule, is historically not from Moscow, but from the province and is only in the service of the Moscow sovereign.

            St. Petersburg.
            Not a village, but the Capital of the Empire. Built on a bare spot with a disgusting climate. The city was originally opposed to the rest of Russia. Rejected everything Russian and striving for everything Western. Window to Europe. City of officials, imperial service, arrogance and arrogance.
            St. Petersburg does not tolerate objections and always considers himself right. For Peter, all who do not creep under him are enemies. St. Petersburg - the type closest to the Englishman; also the desire to teach everyone how to live, to impose on everyone their way of life, their tastes and orders.

            Quote: mogus
            It’s far from here and everything merges into one, it makes no difference to us who went bankrupt and closed:


            And I’m close to the authorities (I live not far away) And around me everything was bankrupt and it was Petersburg that closed it. I wrote about this more than once.
            I do not feel any illusions about the current rulers since they began to bankrupt and close with my farm right after the appointment of GDP as the receiver. What later began to happen throughout Russia was worked out and tested by Petersburgers in the Moscow region at the beginning of the century.
            1. mogus
              +2
              April 14 2013 15: 06
              we have slightly different concepts of "Muscovite". You have a resident of the capital, we call a person "Muscovite", which means (the meaning is put in) inhospitable, arrogant, selfish. And somehow it doesn't matter to designate a person at the place of residence. If you have closed one enterprise, then it is replaced by another, well, or you can find yourself in another area.
              I will try to explain the situation as it is: have you heard about the "black list" / "take under the record" / - in short, in debt? I have my own store, there are people who used to work in the forest (steal), after "tightening the screws" with the forest (large fines, real terms), most sat down. Some debts have not been returned to me (for more than a year), they simply cannot, they cannot steal the forest, there is no other job.
              I regularly communicate with wholesalers who travel around the area, so in my village it is even more or less in comparison with Bad (on April 11, Putin was there), in Bad, according to wholesalers, sales fell three times ... but the people did not become less ... There is a department "Orimi Wood" from St. Petersburg, but these are "cat's tears" (you won't believe me, but the director of the department also borrowed from me last year). Will you try to explain the difference between Muscovite and St. Petersburg here on the spot? This is a reality that will never be shown on TV ...
        2. Murat 09
          +1
          April 14 2013 13: 25
          Well, how do I know who, what and whose in Moscow, and I have nothing against Muscovites as city residents, by the way, my relatives live there, I'm talking about how, let's say, a person in our provinces organizes a business, develops it, something produces here, not in China, and then people from Moscow come and take away his business, suck all the financial juice, ruin it and leave. And who are they, Petersburg, Donetsk, etc. we are not interested. Since the residents of Moscow are offended by our words, let's call these "Muskvichi".
          1. +4
            April 14 2013 17: 01
            Quote: mogus
            we have slightly different concepts of "Muscovite". You have a resident of the capital, we call a person "Muscovite", which means (the meaning is put in) unfriendly, arrogant, selfish

            Quote: Murat 09
            Well, how do I know who, what and whose in Moscow

            Here! No one cares where the bastard is from, but to ascribe a bastard to Moscow is always welcome! And why then not ascribe everyone with whom we are not happy, everyone who prevents us from living with Peter, Rostov, or for example Magadan? I dont want? It is so nice to be better aware than Muscovites. it is from Moscow all the filth in Russia. And every day I see on the streets of Moscow how drivers with nonresident license plates squint. How Caucasians are impudent, how real boys from Rostov are squirming, how they spit on those around St. Petersburg.
            But where and when did you somewhere see the accusations against non-Muscovites?

            Quote: mogus
            If you have closed one enterprise, then it is replaced by another, well, or you can find yourself in another area.

            You are mistaken. Everything is much tougher with us. Competition is higher, relationships are worse, the rhythm of life is faster. Therefore, a Muscovite is less sentimental than a resident of the province. Even if he was born and raised in this province, but has been living in Moscow lately.

            Quote: Murat 09
            And who are they, Petersburg, Donetsk, etc. we are not interested. Since the residents of Moscow are offended by our words, let's call these "Muskvichi".

            Let’s once again Gorbachev from the Kuban, and EBN from Sverdlovsk, blame what they did to the country of the inhabitants of these glorious regions. Just so that they are not offended, we will change the name of the cities one letter at a time.
            1. +2
              April 14 2013 17: 23
              Normal
              Everything is correct. I will subscribe to each of your words. For this metropolitan tinsel, it is not known to people that most Muscovites work in factories, in hospitals and clinics, in construction sites and thermal power plants. And for the same money as throughout the country, and not at all by bankers, managers and commerce, although there is a lot of this shit here.
            2. mogus
              +3
              April 14 2013 18: 12
              your truth. The country is determined by people. My fellow countrymen had a hand in "Buran" when it made an automatic landing. It's good. But for some reason, all the troubles with the address: Moscow ...
          2. +5
            April 14 2013 19: 00
            Quote: Murat 09
            I’m talking about how a person organizes a business in our province, develops it, produces something here, not in China, and then people come from Moscow and take his business, suck out all the financial juices, ruin and leave.


            "Mrskvichi" is the head of the local administration. the head of the Internal Affairs Directorate and the prosecutor. Open your eyes under your nose ... One such mayor was crying all the time. The province is dying out. Moscow is strangling, does not give money, etc. Well, the guys didn’t just come and asked him a couple of questions to a poor man, for example, where did his brother, a disabled child, get a luxurious apartment in the glorious town of Odintsovo (where square meters of housing are more expensive than in Moscow) which this brother doesn’t even know about, well and in this spirit ... I immediately gave permission to build an agricultural farm without any kickbacks and delays ... that's how Muscovites bought up the local business in the bud.
      2. SASCHAmIXEEW
        +13
        April 14 2013 10: 42
        So Muscovites are no longer left! Moscow is like a sponge, it has collected the liquidationist trash and from there rules the country! Get up the country to a mortal battle ...... with the liquidationist horde!
  15. fenix57
    +8
    April 14 2013 08: 48
    "Why does Putin not notice the villains?" and the question arises, WHY THE BADDERS DO NOT NOTICE Mr. BABICH M., - Plenipotentiary Representative of the President on the Volga Federal District. I did not hear about the problem or sold out to the red-haired von-baron. Why the heck (Babich appointed to the post). hi
    1. +1
      April 14 2013 09: 19
      Quote: fenix57
      AND WHY THE BADDERS ARE NOT MISSED by Mr BABICH M., - Plenipotentiary Representative of the President on the Volga Federal District

      Greetings, namesake! hi I think that unsightly things in the PrFD will not be ignored. There is such a pattern - until these things exceed a certain critical mass, these figures enjoy life without suspecting that - everything is being recorded wink in "BUK"
      1. +10
        April 14 2013 10: 50
        Quote: esaul
        until these things exceed a certain critical mass,

        You know what happens when the "critical mass" is reached. But let me remind you; a chain reaction occurs with the release of colossal, as a rule, uncontrollable energy.
        By your assertions that everything has its time, that everything goes on as usual, that “everything is recorded” you only mask the accumulation of that very critical mass, the explosion of which will bury both the state and the supporters of the authorities and, unfortunately, everyone else.
  16. fenix57
    +5
    April 14 2013 09: 20
    Quote: taseka
    - more and more often it is noticed that as soon as the plant is "seized" or bought by Muscovites - then he gets an amba with bankruptcy! They grabbed the capital and disappeared leaving ruins !!! Rot flows into the clean, morally and morally, rivers of the provinces of Russia!

    About this part of the article: In the early 1980s, Soviet intelligence obtained materials from the so-called “Harvard Project,” which included three main stages, outlined in three books - “Perestroika,” “Reform,” and “Completion.” The program was initiated by US intelligence agencies and is designed for three five-year periods:
    -reconstruction;
    -reform.
    - completion:
    -liquidation of the army;
    -the elimination of Russian statehood;
    -the elimination of the attributes of socialism - free training, free medicine;
    - introduction of the attributes of the principle of capitalism - "everyone pays for everything";
    -the elimination of well-fed and peaceful life, first in the province, and then in the capitals (Moscow and Leningrad);
    - the widespread elimination of public and state property and its complete replacement with private;
    - gradual seizure of Russian territory by the Anglo-Saxon population (earlier than the races of the East). see War Materials - Harvard Project. hi
    1. SASCHAmIXEEW
      +9
      April 14 2013 10: 45
      Do you think Putin doesn’t know about the project? HE is his performer !!!
  17. Svyatoslav72
    +11
    April 14 2013 09: 24
    Citizens and Comrades! Putin may have started with the KGB, but in Leningrad he did not do his best. Logically, after EBN they could only put the "necessary granddaughter", which he is. You don't have to be particularly gifted to see how things are done and how they are controlled, this is sober thinking and priorities that were not there under Gorby and EBN under PutoMed. If someone likes Putin so much, then these are his personal delusions, I like his propaganda department, which promotes him well (but sometimes he makes incorrect statements in unnecessary places, the bad students were caught not by the creators, but by sipping / imitators). What is the difference between EBN and GDP? EBN on "royally" disgraced and GDP on zvezdanutomu PR. The real Leader and Leader, immediately noticeable, but he is not in Power, Power went, as always, to Fools and Barygs.
    1. +10
      April 14 2013 10: 14
      Putin himself is a scoundrel, so thieves are not being planted in our country, and corruption is flourishing, the Kremlin does not need patriots, and all the more competent. Why praise Putin, for such an enormous term of government and with such huge sales of raw materials, the country is in the ass, all industries are located in the West, and their cherimas are made like this, billionaires are added, and the other half are slipping into poverty, education is buried, housing and communal services are more expensive already than in Europe, expensive fuel, but everywhere you don’t throw it, everywhere a wedge.
  18. +16
    April 14 2013 09: 41
    CORRUPTION IN RUSSIA! Who is the main thief?

    V. Matvienko, Chairman of the Federation Council: "HUGE STATE INVESTMENTS UPLOADED IN UAC (United Aircraft Corporation) ... WHERE ARE THE AIRCRAFT? AND WHERE IS THE MONEY?"

    There is only one answer - they DEFEATED! .. Something has already reached the third person in the country. Can it reach the second and first?

    While successful managers such as Khristenko, Manturov, Pogosyan, Serdyukov, Golikova, Skrynnik and others like them will lead the country, under the guidance and patronage of our LEADER and FATHER OF THE NATION - GOOD DO NOT WAIT.

    The legendary cosmonaut Alexei LEONOV said in an interview with Argumenty i Fakty: "Our ancestors left us such a huge country as a legacy, with the riches that we are now consuming and plundering." WHAT'S NEXT? WE DO NOT RENT OURS! ....
    1. +5
      April 14 2013 11: 31
      Matryoshka is the same, it didn’t come, but it’s called a clan fight. In the KLA, the wrong clan stole. wink
      In general, I was glad in the morning, there are so many adequate people on the site in the morning, or the supporters have not slept after "Putinka" yet ?!
  19. gorkoxnumx
    +12
    April 14 2013 09: 44
    Either he is a bad leader, or he himself is in this system, although I would have already removed him for Kadyrov who killed Russians in the 90s for which he was awarded Ichkeria awards, and with a stalemate and Russia, I generally keep quiet about my dad, and you remember Luzhkov and his wife who and to this day they are well, and the Serdyuk who did God knows what? How many were plundered on the reforms !!! Oh, and why all state purchases turn into robbery for which no one is responsible ?! Why, if Putin wants to defeat corruption, does not do banal things? I think that the President who wants to defeat the evil "corruption" the first thing he should do is to increase the term of imprisonment up to life imprisonment for crimes against the treasury, but Putin seems to be happy with everything and I am sure that nothing will change in this area. As one president said, this is not the 37th year.
    1. 0
      April 14 2013 10: 05
      As one president said, this is not the 37 year.
      Why so embarrassing, colleague? Or forgot who said? And what is 37 today? Damn, I thought 2013!
      Quote: gorko83
      I think that the President who wants to defeat the evil "corruption" the first thing he should do is to increase the term of imprisonment up to life imprisonment for crimes against the treasury

      Bravo! The only correct and comprehensive proposal! Only now, bad luck, as it turned out, even the death penalty is not a panacea for treating such an ailment as greed. And this greed (and her inalienable friends - arrogance, cowardice, meanness ...) existed in the most repressive (and even - war!) Times. And there were corrupt officials under Stalin. Only there was no such "beautiful" word - "corruption", but there were comrades who "forgot and trampled the morality of the Soviet man", and "all sorts of renegades of Soviet society and plunders of socialist property ...". This is from the official rhetoric of the Soviet era, so vaguely and sonorously calling corrupt officials. To the objections that there was no corruption under Stalin, then where did all these sonorous formulations come from?
      Well, what do you mention Serdyukov, what - for the truth suffers? Or is it his George W. Bush blamed under investigation?
      But in general, should I convince you? You are from the breed for which everything is bad and no improvement is expected. Suffer further.
      1. djon3volta
        -5
        April 14 2013 13: 46
        it is useless to argue, the wrong article is today.won in the article "Germans comment on an article about Putin's interview with the ARD television and radio company" completely different comments, even the Germans see Putin as a worthy person, because they know better from the outside.

        "today is a holiday of hamsters, today there will be dances")))
  20. Belogor
    +4
    April 14 2013 09: 48
    Quote: Svyatoslav72
    If someone likes Putin so much, then these are his personal misconceptions,

    If someone does not like Putin, then this is his own business. In the kitchens we are all presidents and experts in everything.
    1. Svyatoslav72
      +2
      April 14 2013 10: 03
      Turn on your brains and open your eyes. If there is no desire, do not shake the icon of your idol. If you put on the State and the People, then at least do not smear the snot in public.
      1. Belogor
        +2
        April 14 2013 10: 16
        Why are you hysterical? Love or not love it is of little interest. And do not cover your snot with high words.
    2. Svyatoslav72
      0
      April 14 2013 10: 03
      Turn on your brains and open your eyes. If there is no desire, do not shake the icon of your idol. If you put on the State and the People, then at least do not smear the snot in public.
  21. Urrry
    +7
    April 14 2013 09: 54
    Hmm, under Stalin they said "cadres decide everything" - in our time the saying of statesmen sounds "finances decide everything."
    A professional in his field will often lose to the "financial manager" in the competition for the leadership position. And in the situation described in the article, apparently the same reasons: the goal is not to restore and establish production as such - but "financial optimization". And there the logic is different: in order to reduce losses and increase revenues, we urgently need to sell something, for example, the territory of workshops. And less development is needed - because the costs are going today, and the profit will go tomorrow, but when this "financial manager" will no longer be there. And he needs to make a profit right now, today, no matter what at once and with irrevocable "cutting off the living." After all, for this very year he wants to report on his "efficiency" - showing income from the sale of property and reducing the cost of developing new production! And then - even though the grass does not grow! By that time, he himself will go over to lead another similar enterprise - with the same tactics of "financial recovery" :(
  22. 0
    April 14 2013 10: 04
    The article deals with the replacement of Y. Eliseev in a letter, about the desire to see A. Inozemtsev as the Executive Director, what is really happening?
    In this conflict of interest, we can not figure it out, at least without the comments of journalists or factory workers.
    I well know the case when the company's management forced them to sign letters of support, so it’s better to wait for authoritative explanations.
    1. WS
      0
      April 14 2013 12: 39
      Think about whether the South Koreans want to unite with S. Korea under the leadership of Kim Jong-un, the same thing is happening now in Perm.
      1. 0
        April 14 2013 21: 53
        I read with open eyes - this is a conflict in Samara. I was not going to think up and invent anything!
  23. fenix57
    +3
    April 14 2013 10: 07
    Quote: esaul
    I think that unsightly things in the PrFO will not go unnoticed. There is such a pattern - until these things do not exceed a certain critical mass, these figures enjoy life without suspecting that everything is recorded in the "BUK"

    And hello to you, VALERY, but you yourself understand that this happens in any of the districts. And here in Primorye ... And whoever determines it is MASSA critical, the Vedas are a little late and .... an irreversible reaction. And this is RUSSIA. hi
  24. igor12
    +5
    April 14 2013 10: 11
    It’s clear where the wind is blowing. Since the red-haired privatizer appeared on the horizon, it is necessary to shout the guard. And to be honest, the top circle surrounding the president has been fighting for more liquid enterprises for several years and arranging a redistribution of property too. I work at one of the enterprises led by Moskvich, as a result, a company with a full production the cycle was almost transferred to the category of aggregate assembly with transfer to another enterprise for final assembly, and by the way this is not the end of history, our enterprise will be restrained, and we also wrote a letter to Putin. The second city-forming enterprise has died. Such are the things.
  25. Kostia1970
    +5
    April 14 2013 10: 16
    I believe that all "actions" in the defense industry and other strategic sectors should be regarded as treason to the motherland!
    1. Dim Dim
      +1
      April 14 2013 14: 50
      I support the proposal with a small addition, to return capital punishment and complete confiscation, including from relatives who knew but did not report, that is, they are accomplices.
  26. fenix57
    +5
    April 14 2013 10: 16
    Quote: AleksUkr
    Who is the main thief?

    "[b] [b] Deputy Prime Minister of the Russian Federation Igor Shuvalov became the wealthiest member of the Cabinet of Ministers according to published data on the income of members of the Russian government. In 2012, I. Shuvalov's income amounted to 226 million 386 thousand 926 rubles." [/ b] - ANSWER.
    [b] I would like to receive an answer to a simple question: WHY ARE THE MEDIA WRITTEN-EARNED?.They are that, on piece-rate payment, if so, then in the red the whole government should be, SIGNIFICANTLY!
    [/B]
    1. +7
      April 14 2013 10: 29
      They are delighted with their importance, considering themselves successful managers. Therefore, their salary rises at times, and for us, mere mortals ON ...! The other day, Putin said that they should somewhat limit the GOLDEN parachutes and bonuses. It is to limit, not eliminate.
  27. bilgesez
    +11
    April 14 2013 10: 32
    The raven will not peck out the crow.
  28. fenix57
    +3
    April 14 2013 10: 50
    Quote: Svyatoslav72
    ... What is the difference between EBN and GDP? EBN on "royally" disgraced and the GDP on zvezdanutomu PR. The real Leader and Leader, immediately noticeable, but he is not in Power, Power went, as always, to Fools and Barygs.

    How do you say? -Pare, good. Here is an excerpt from an article about Navalny (after all, it’s closer to you in spirit, as they say, anything but GDP): On April 17, the trial over Alexei Navalny in the Kirovles case will begin. But, as Nezavisimaya Gazeta writes, the authorities will have to judge not a simple blogger, but a politician. Navalny has publicly announced his intention to participate in the 2018 presidential elections. He also has the support of the People's Alliance Party, which has applied for registration with the Ministry of Justice. According to Fyodor Krasheninnikov, a member of the presidium of the central council of "NA", Alexei Navalny is the spiritual leader of the party.
    How do you like this move: from the criminal to the political. PRESTIGIOUS, And ... From primitive "cormorant" to "prisoners of conscience"
    see http://www.bbc.co.uk/russian/russia/2013/04/130412_rus_press.shtml
    1. Svyatoslav72
      +1
      April 14 2013 12: 06
      In spirit I am closer (in Power) A.G. Xi Jinping. Ivan the Terrible (grip and sharpness), but the Russian Federation has its own way. About Navalny: - Everything is simple, obviously an impassable option, a lot of ado about nothing (although if you want and spend a certain resource, you can make a president out of anyone). Most likely the project of the Kremlin Administration: 1. Much noise from nothing, all the energy of hopes and discontent in one "drain". 2. In Power from the Bottom, your own in the board. 3. People's party-goer, school of life. 4. Don't wait for the Consequences to destroy the Illusions, do the News Yourself.
      Too simple to think a lot.
    2. djon3volta
      +2
      April 14 2013 13: 52
      Quote: fenix57
      How do you like this move: from criminal to political.

      Khodorkovsky also wanted to indulge in 2004))) they made a political prisoner out of a thief. And who did it? The West, the United States, and human rights activists. But Khodorkovsky is a thief and a murderer, and this is not a secret.
  29. +3
    April 14 2013 11: 02
    It is high time to drive all these "rulers" - Luntik and hedgehog with them. They only think that they know how to manage, but in fact they are agents of influence and destroyers of the state !!!!!
  30. +2
    April 14 2013 11: 06
    And such Putin’s crap in almost all areas of Russian life.
    Putin has such a personnel policy, and the rest is only a consequence. The root cause must be eliminated.
    If those who are against Putin are mistaken, and Putin is better, then in the end everyone wins, and who is for and who is against. And first of all, the people of Russia.
    But if those who are for Putin are mistaken, we will all wash ourselves with tears and blood.
    All economically developed countries of the world have long worked out a way to prevent great corruption - this is a change of power and political competition.
    What Putin completely ignores. It is unlikely that Russia will survive the 11 years of his reign, as he measured himself?
    1. WS
      0
      April 14 2013 12: 45
      Putin even made himself, entered the Legal Faculty, etc. Soon a generation of Raspyzdyaevs, "who were crammed by Dads Moms (not one of those Vasilievs?), Will come to the management. Then we'll dance!"
  31. +14
    April 14 2013 11: 23
    You don’t know, people, how badly it is to live in a foreign land, which used to be part of the Great Country, when they came to power, but this is all nonsense, compared to when you see that Russia is in your beloved country, some are trying to ruin the main strength of the country, its defenses. I understand that we living today in a foreign land can not do anything for this, but you can do it. You live in Russia, and you are people, its main support. Do not let freaks with empty eyes ruin your strength, make noise, defend people really valuable for the country, defend values ​​with all available means, first of all defense enterprises, do not let freaks run their paws into the great value of Russia, do not try to chat and write everything GDP and Shoigu, seek the truth. There will be no Rossi - there will not be all of us and our children, grandchildren, there will be nothing.
    1. +3
      April 14 2013 19: 52
      Quote: Homeless
      don’t trynd in the chats, but write all the GDP and Shoigu, seek the truth.

      They have petitions and so all the corridors are littered. Lack of gentlemen. It is necessary to drive them, not to translate paper.
  32. 0
    April 14 2013 11: 26
    It is sad to read, in vain Yeleseev submitted a letter of resignation even in relation to his own workers, he left them alone, although they would not let him in, and as you know, "a new broom sweeps in a new way." At least it's nice that people are fighting God to help them in this not easy "corridor" undertaking.
  33. +5
    April 14 2013 11: 37
    I am not delighted with Putin, but if you look at others, then there is no one worthy. The communists are no longer the same, remember the film "Communist", but there are no such people anymore. LDPR? It's not that at all. Well, I don’t want to talk about the rest.
  34. honest jew
    +15
    April 14 2013 11: 42
    What do you want from Putin? To immediately take and transplant all thieves and bribe takers? Then the prisons will not be enough this time, and secondly it will be necessary to plant the entire political elite and not only it! Because bribes are taken and stolen, and it all started back in the era of Kukuruznik! If Putin started to infringe on everyone and put him in prison, then he will be removed immediately! Therefore, Putin immediately built his own special way to fight the corrupt elite immediately after coming to power! This path is an authority on the international scene. With such authority, Putin is no longer the scapegoat that Kirienko did in his time to blame him for DEFAULT. Putin waits for all thieves to bite together! Stalin also waited a long time, did not immediately show who he was , but then the results went and yes what !!!! Just Putin has no one to rely on and trust. There are no cadres !!!! Those who were ruining the USSR! Therefore, the All-Russian Popular Front was created as a replacement for the corrupt Edra, so to help Putin we must start with ourselves! Participate in political and public activities to fight embezzlement and bribery on the ground !!! If everyone will do at least something in this direction, the results will be visible !!! And Putin, he is not GOD, he cannot do everything at once, although the results are already terrific! Keep it up Vladimir Vladimirovich !!! Go Russia !!!
    1. 77bor1973
      +4
      April 14 2013 11: 48
      And you can not plant, these just need to be ordered.
    2. +8
      April 14 2013 12: 16
      Quote: Honest Jew
      To immediately take and transplant all thieves and bribe takers? Then the prisons will not be enough this time, and secondly it will be necessary to plant the entire political elite and not only it!

      If this is the only problem, I’m ready to provide the state with a cellar in the country for these purposes.
      "Let's throw ourselves off the people of thieves on zindan !!!"

      Putin is waiting say? no one to go next with? And what prevents him from turning directly to the people? Or will it go another 40 years? I'm afraid, just the people will die and the embezzler will just get stronger!
    3. -2
      April 14 2013 12: 19
      Jews and even honest, rarely praise Russia and its leader. Usually vilified and ridiculed.
      At one time, Gorbachev and Yeltsin were praised.
      Only Russia from these leaders was bad.
      1. 0
        April 14 2013 22: 11
        Quote: stas
        Jews and even honest, rarely praise Russia and its leader. Usually vilified and ridiculed.

        Necha blame the mirror, since the face is crooked!
        Anti-Semitism, Stas, is not good. Gorbachev - Russian, Khrushchev - not a Jew, Yeltsin - in the same place. praise? admire?
        Do not judge people by their nationality.
    4. Svyatoslav72
      +5
      April 14 2013 12: 23
      Hello! Citizen. AND! Do you think the Russian Federation will wait forever while he and his accomplices decompose, waiting for someone to eat someone? Do not make me laugh. Where is the basic basis of his "Right Rule", what norms and motives govern him? Yes! NO, ordinary bazaar chatter. Do not assume that Time is eternal for you, and everything will be fine without the right actions and accumulated potential. It's simple, it's like an HOURGLASS, if something is gone it will never be returned. Do not deceive yourself and build illusions on standard delusions.
    5. optimist
      +10
      April 14 2013 12: 26
      Respected! Around VVP and so full of "honest Jews" (Abramovichs, Vekselbergs, Chubais, Rottenbergs, etc.). So you don't have to be zealous: there won't be enough room for you. Let's wait another 100 years until the "Tsar-Herod" has "someone to rely on." Just all Russians will rest, and only "honest Jews", "honest Caucasians", "honest Central Asians", etc. will remain ...
    6. +5
      April 14 2013 13: 15
      Quote: Honest Jew
      What do you want from Putin? To immediately take and transplant all thieves and bribe takers? Then the prisons will not be enough this time, and secondly it will be necessary to plant the entire political elite and not only it! Because bribes are taken and stolen, and it all started back in the era of Kukuruznik! If Putin starts to infringe on everyone and plant them, then he will be removed immediately

      The speech for the lawyer is excellent, but we must not forget that Putin is the president, and if they begin to give real time to the embezzlers then they will steal less. I'm not talking about the fact that it is possible to eradicate theft 100%, but what the scope is now, this is already beyond, and these ghouls use it. Stole, so what, nothing will happen anyway. Impunity is the key to calm embezzlers.
      1. 0
        April 14 2013 13: 18
        that's for sure. [media = http: //25427-slepakov-pesnya-rossiyskogo-chinovnika.html]
    7. +4
      April 14 2013 19: 55
      Quote: Honest Jew
      Therefore, the All-Russian Popular Front was created as a substitute for the corrupt Unit

      Rather like a whistle on a pipe to release steam.
  35. +4
    April 14 2013 12: 31
    In continuation.
    Until about 2006, Putin liked him. By the way, I still consider him a patriot. But since the 6th year, there are more and more perplexities about his actions. It is clear that he still got the inheritance, that there is a shortage of personnel not only for specialists, but, most importantly, for those who are not indifferent. Nevertheless, there are a lot of questions about Chubais, Kudrin, about taking Golikova and Fursenko as advisors, about meetings ending in slogans (timber industry, fishing, merchant fleet). You can not do it this way. Said "A", you must say "B". You cannot close your eyes for ten years to unsolvable problems. Every problem has a last name, even if it's a good person. One of the principles of management in the equality of rights, duties and responsibilities. We are weak with the obligation to take action towards subordinates. If ministers like Serdyukov are free, the clerks will automatically take out even the light bulbs from the office.
  36. +8
    April 14 2013 12: 36
    <<< Appoint “don’t know” - people who can only carry out orders to manipulate financial flows. >>>
    However, HOW did these managers get it, they only know how to "manipulate" financial flows! Taburetkin and his team, not an ear or a snout, are not versed in military affairs, too, after all, from this company of manipulators of cash flows, they HAVE DOMINATED to the point that until now the Investigative Committee cannot decide where and how many of these flows of state finances flowed past our Army and Defense! It is clearer that these "manipulators" of cash flows have NO PLACE at the head of the leading industries on which the country's defense capability and economic security depend! The only place where you can allow their activities without fear of serious harm is to allow them to manipulate the flow of faeces, managing the work of plumbing infrastructure!
  37. slvevg
    0
    April 14 2013 12: 53
    Quote: esaul
    Quote: My address
    He is weak head.


    good afternoon hi Forgive me, who did you mean? If - Putin, then I have no choice but to post a smiley to your address in response to your "mind" fool
    As for the situation with the Samara enterprise, I understand the pain of the author of the article, I support his efforts and appeals for support, to save the native plant, but (in response to the mournful posts in the spirit of "everything was gone!") I think it's premature to sprinkle ashes on my head. Most likely, the situation has not yet reached the level of intervention of the First Person. The fact that Eliseev was forced to put the statement on the table does not mean that "the resignation has been accepted." In general, nothing changes in the sublunary world ... An analogy comes to my mind with butting Sukhoi with Antonov when he was in the USSR. There the same - the legendary "weaving" of Sukhoi was lost because of the banal nepotism of Antonov with the top officials of the state, and the dry was "dropped", despite the mass of advanced technical solutions used in the "weave".
    And yet ... It is difficult for us (many here - on the site) to judge everything that happens at the described enterprise, what undercover combinations are played out there. But, nevertheless, I believe that we should collectively support the appeal of the Aviadvigatel team and ask the Administration on our behalf to send the appropriate letters (call it what you want), both to the team and to those structures on which fate and successful operation of an enterprise vital for the country.
    Good morning everyone! hi
  38. Ghost of darkness
    +1
    April 14 2013 12: 57
    Watch out for the scoundrel! the turn will reach you! Putin sees everyone and everything!
  39. Harleone
    +9
    April 14 2013 13: 05
    Because Putin is a scoundrel
  40. fenix57
    +1
    April 14 2013 13: 11
    Quote: Svyatoslav72
    In spirit, closer to me (in Power) A.G. Xi Jinping. Ivan the Terrible (grip and sharpness)

    I apologize. hi
  41. Kalita
    +3
    April 14 2013 13: 23
    What about on the day of the liberal-NOT?
  42. +4
    April 14 2013 14: 23
    My dear FORUM!
    Let someone write here who has NEVER STORED ANYTHING IN ANY LIFE at the factory (a nut from a factory, a pen from an office, an apple from someone else's garden), or in a reasonable childhood ???
    Or has none of us peeing here ever put chocolate bars in gratitude, bargained with the traffic cops about "on the spot and in cash"?
    So why are you shedding tears for crocodiles?
    Already wrote, but I repeat - GOOD AND FUN TO POST COMMENTS, SITTING WITH A CIGARETTE, COFFEE, BEER (required to underline) sitting at the monitor with clave ...
    "Moscow was not built right away ...", although he himself is not a Muscovite, a provincial.
    All this "raiding" - financial, robbery, is not carried out by the Martians, not by the Amrykans, not by the Chinese with penguins from the Antarctic .... All this has been done, is being done and will be done by our NEIGHBORS, FRIENDS, RELATIVES, and simply KNOWN.
    1. Horde
      +5
      April 14 2013 16: 19
      Let someone write here who has NEVER STORED ANYTHING IN ANY LIFE at the factory (a nut from a factory, a pen from an office, an apple from someone else's garden), or in a reasonable childhood ???
      Or has none of us peeing here ever put chocolate bars in gratitude, bargained with the traffic cops about "on the spot and in cash"?


      Well, what do you compare BILLION stolen stools and all these BUSINESSES covered by Putin, as well as INDUSTRY INDUSTRIES obliterated by Chubais with nuts and chocolates? Do you think people are completely crazy about you? however, these most likely are YOUR SPIRITUAL PARTNERS since childhood.
      1. +4
        April 14 2013 16: 56
        Quote: Horde
        however, these most likely are YOUR SPIRITUAL PARTNERS since childhood.


        You save emotions and ORGANIZATIONS to your wife ... drinks

        The question is simple: where do all these grumblers come from?
        The answer is: not from space.
        I will add: if a person does not work for 2 thousand rubles a month, he (she) will not work for both 20 and 200 thousand rubles. And so for all the other "mortal sins" - greed, pride, etc.

        "Looking for the extreme" here on the forum is a thankless and stupid task ...
        hi
        1. Horde
          +1
          April 14 2013 17: 39
          The question is simple: where do all these grumblers come from?


          shit question, maybe I heard that not everyone likes CAPITALISM especially Putin's

          if a person does not work for 2 thousand rubles a month - he (she) will not work for 20 and 200 thousand rubles.


          if a person does not work for 2tysch. rub. , that means it works for 50-70 thousand. , such as in Moscow. What's the catch?

          Searching for the extreme "here on the forum is a thankless and stupid task ...


          such as you can see with the UNLOADED gaze.
          1. +4
            April 14 2013 17: 45
            Quote: Horde
            such as you can see with the UNLOADED gaze.


            1. And you, by any chance, are not a clairvoyant from the TNT channel? How quickly do you "examine" everyone and make a diagnosis?
            2. Shit is your reasoning. Thinking like a primate. Sorry for the insult - quite in the spirit of your "pearls".
            Good luck!
            hi
            1. Horde
              +4
              April 14 2013 18: 21
              And you, by any chance, are not a clairvoyant from the TNT channel? How quickly do you "examine" everyone and make a diagnosis?


              I don’t look at the box, AMORAL and INSURANCE of Putin’s TV space have already gotten, as for you, in the article that says DESTRUCTION of one of the BEST ENTERPRISES of Russia, your wild maxims that thieves in Russia are annoying.
              You think like a primate. Sorry for the insult - quite in the spirit of your "pearls".


              yes dude, instead of wiggling convolutions and saying something clever, since you’ve gotten into the fuel and you accuse everyone of thievery, then the thief is probably the one who shouts the loudest, grab the thief. laughing
              1. +3
                April 14 2013 18: 33
                Quote: Horde
                EVERYONE IS IN THE THEFT, then there must be a THIEF whoever shouts the loudest, grab a THIEF


                Yes, wrong, guys, everything is wrong .... lol
        2. +1
          April 14 2013 23: 31
          And to be a lawyer for embezzlers means "noble and sensible" ((((
          1. +3
            April 15 2013 00: 17
            Quote: Ivan Kalinovich
            And to be a lawyer for embezzlers means "noble and sensible" ((((

            Guys, please - read carefully !!!
            Not between lines and diagonally ....
            Theft is based on greed, one of mortal sins.
            We are all subject to these sins - he wrote about that.
            And what those who we know steal is what we are talking about.
            And to draw hasty conclusions, and build your own accusations on them, is the destiny of the SARROW and SELF-CONFIDENT NEXTLINE people.
            The head is given not only to wear a hat.

            Plus - for a sensible question.
            I hope that I answered sensibly.
            hi
    2. +3
      April 14 2013 20: 09
      Quote: stalkerwalker
      the one who will NEVER STRAIN ANYTHING IN HIS LIFE -when in production (a nut from a factory, a pen from an office, an apple from someone else’s garden), or in a reasonable childhood ???

      Those who minus - you do not observe a halo over your heads? Or are they not reflected in the mirror?
      request
  43. Dim Dim
    +2
    April 14 2013 14: 28
    Quote: Nikolay S.
    Quote: esaul
    How dare he do to strengthen the country and strengthen the economy! This is not presidential!

    I also respect Putin. But what considerations make him keep Chubais and Dimon-iPhone for so many years, I cannot understand. Inexplicable. I can't believe the fairy tale about the fact that these are "effective managers", I can only laugh, and even then it is "bitter".

    The answer is very simple, the Boss said.
  44. +6
    April 14 2013 14: 55
    It is a pity of course, if the company is closed. It seems to me that the party allowed Putin to rearm the army and navy. Because I clearly understood that without this, her glade would simply be taken away without asking the boys from the West. Now, if you look at it from such an angle? And we here rejoice, praise Putin ... I will not say anything about the bloody regime. But special about development too.
  45. +5
    April 14 2013 15: 11
    Nothing will change in our swamp, it’s just that for the time being Putin exchanged places with Medvedev. I remember that even Medvedev began to fight corruption at the end of his term, Putin simply continued, and they are obviously not at the top link, they will not surrender their own. Serdyukov, they don’t know how to smear it off, he got into a fool, but they let him down on the brakes. The whole struggle is solid windmills.
  46. +2
    April 14 2013 15: 21
    Nothing will change in our swamp, just Putin temporarily changed places with Medvedev. By the way, even Medvedev began to fight corruption at the end of his term, Putin simply continues, and it is clearly not the top echelon that clings. Take Serdyukov, accidentally fell under the distribution, now they do not know how to grease, smaller bipods are already sitting, on TV they sometimes show "wrestling".
  47. Rrv
    Rrv
    +1
    April 14 2013 16: 00
    "WHY DOES PUTIN NOT NOTICE NEGODYAYEV?" - Why doesn't he notice? At the expense of dishonest people, idiots and provocateurs, he spoke out quite unequivocally.

    "WHY IS PUTIN NOT SUSPENSING THE ACTIVITIES OF CHUBAIS?" - First of all, one must understand that the views of these "statesmen" in some ways coincide (Chubais's statement about Dostoevsky and the Russians).

    Also, do not forget who Sobchak was and what kind of activity (for which Putin worked successfully), thanks to whom it was Putin who moved to Moscow, whose family he continues to maintain loyalty to and why.

    The answers on the surface, and the conclusions (which can be drawn from them) are quite unambiguous.
  48. +1
    April 14 2013 16: 26
    I appeal to the moderators.
    Why the moderators do not notice that he is throwing the game out of the site? request
    1. 0
      April 14 2013 22: 23
      The moderators sent me instructions on how to clear the cache (I am poorly versed in this). Everything is fine, it helped.
  49. Phoenix bird
    -1
    April 14 2013 17: 04
    He (Puten) is really a political coward.
    The evidence for this is abundant. Starting with the trial of the girls, and the hasty repeated salary increases for the military (when numerous rallies began), the prosecutor's office, the FSB ... Numerous repetitions: "We need to think more about the person!" in almost every performance, etc.

    Well, in general, Puten has exhausted himself and has become a burden for the country. I believe that he himself feels this, but fear for his future forces him to tighten the screws, because the people have more and more complaints about him
    1. djon3volta
      -2
      April 14 2013 18: 34
      Quote: Phoenix Bird
      because the people have more and more complaints about it

      which nation I can’t understand request well, we all saw this people, 120 thousand out of a maximum of 143 million, it is 0.1% of the population of the whole country. why 0.1% of the population decides how we all live and who needs to be changed for 99.9%, I don’t agree, and 10 million Muscovites also disagree with the 120 thousandth belolentochnaya lads. if they agreed they would have gone too, well, at least 400-600 thousand were collected, but not collected! in 1989 in China hamsters were crushed by tanks, and GDP growth immediately started at 10 % per annum and the economic recovery, maybe they wound navalists with daredevils on caterpillars, maybe in Russia the economy will start growing at 7-9% per year?
      1. Dim Dim
        +1
        April 14 2013 22: 39
        No need for "navalshists with daring" they attract foreign investments, you probably heard how many of them were dumped in the first quarter of the year, and this is only legal. And the company with beloletochniki seems to have been inspired by the presidential administration to distract people from the real problems in the country.
  50. +2
    April 14 2013 17: 20
    RRV! The answers to your questions are really on the surface: "family"? - EBN is dead, to whom to take revenge? Naine? The rest, with Dyachenko at the head? When was the last time you heard about them? Chubais? Have you heard about the check in Rusnano? The Accounts Chamber is still only in the middle of the road, and its auditors are already finding it hard to find the words so as not to fall into a non-norm! Let's see how it ends! Views? Have you often read and listened to Putin? Not commented! .. You need to love your homeland and, as Putin said, like St. Francis to spud your garden! And about the scoundrels ... You need to remember about them so that you don't put new ones around your neck !!!
    1. Rrv
      Rrv
      +4
      April 14 2013 18: 01
      de klermon

      There is no one to take revenge, and it is not necessary - neither then nor now. But is restoration of law or justice revenge? Decree number 1 remember? This pointer, and this with law and justice, oh how it diverges.

      The last time I heard about the family during the scandal with Pozner is that the guys do not live in poverty.

      Verification in Rusnano - and then verification, that would be classified data. And then - such checks should not be carried out during a rush (as it is now), but constantly, systematically (however, the next year or two will show).

      I listened more to Putin, read less - which I advise you too. Maybe after listening to his statements since the year 2000, you and I will ask yourself a question - does the guarantor suffer from sclerosis? Almost identical declarations of intent, delivered once or twice a year, definitely suggest this idea. )))

      But at the expense of the bastards, I completely agree with you.
  51. user3970
    +9
    April 14 2013 17: 44
    Air Defense Day. My holiday . N-Polar Separate Radio Engineering Regiment. Points on Franz Josef Land (Graham Bell), Nagurskaya... Black (where the Bombs were tested). We have been, served...I will answer WS about the dictatorship...Kadafi is the dictator of Libya. By Russian standards, he built communism in his country, the best friend of all European leaders... was. Is there democracy in the USA? Bush Jr. blows up two towers in 2001 and receives 1,5 billion in insurance, and turns the arrows to Afghanistan. Obama received the Nobel Peace Prize for Afghanistan, Iraq, Egypt, Libya. If you consider yourself a strong leader, you don’t care what they say behind your back. The existing president has everything - money, power, authority to take ANY action against ANY person. If it were necessary to return a rich Pinocchio from overseas, trained people are sent, an injection is given, then a submarine, an airplane (depending on the situation), Russia, truth serum, account numbers... Israel doesn’t really look at anyone when it acts for outside the country. And the USA? How many dozens of Russian scientists have died strange deaths over the past 20 years? Chavez came to power without the team of Kadafi and Lukashenko. And the North Korean leaders are not at all the same as Surkov’s propaganda portrays them in our country. In any case, mechanical engineering products of the North. Korea exports to dozens of European countries, but there is no oil, gas or diamonds there. And in Cuba, under dictator Castro, there is one of the best medicine in the world, and education is free, and they do not eat chemicals. So be careful with dictatorship. We had Gorby with the chaser Judas, there was FUCK here, you can do it without a chaser, just substitute the necessary vowels, there was Dimon (why is he offended, not even swearing!), and for the chaser V.V.P. turn your imagination on .
  52. 0
    April 14 2013 17: 54
    I suggest that the author of the article contact Rogozin. And outline the situation.
  53. +7
    April 14 2013 18: 52
    Putin as a leader is zero. He himself is not a professional at all and in all his posts he has the same amateurs, and even with ambition... I think these engine builders may not count on anything - their plant will die like thousands of similar ones... Everything comes from the head, Putin appointed Serdyukov - what more questions? Putin appointed Medvedev - here, in general, one can only shed a tear for the Russian economy... Herds of thieves and non-professionals have filled ALL the key points of the Russian state... The country will flounder at the level of banana Brazil, that's the whole prospect... By the way, Russia is now LAGING in terms of industrial level Made in Brazil...
  54. +1
    April 14 2013 19: 10
    Gas turbine
  55. Gorchakov
    -1
    April 14 2013 19: 27
    Putin, Rogozin!!! I am turning to you because there is no one else... Why don’t you notice the scoundrels?
  56. waisson
    +4
    April 14 2013 19: 43
    POTAMUSHTO YOURSELF...... request angry bully Yes
  57. +4
    April 14 2013 20: 26
    "...And the illiterate crooks from state corporations and the Ministry of Industry and Trade prefer to bury their own in order to pay the same Siemens in specie..."

    Siemens has been repeatedly involved in corruption scandals.
    This remark mentioned in the article should be checked.
  58. +2
    April 14 2013 21: 41
    here - http://www.aviaport.ru/conferences/40888/384.html
    for those interested in aircraft engine manufacturing in Russia, pro talk
    Including the article under discussion...
  59. wax
    0
    April 14 2013 21: 59
    What is the name, what is the content. The author is a cool guy, he sees everything, knows everything, can do everything. I didn’t put anything in and walked away.
    And from the comments it is becoming more and more clear that spring has come.
  60. 0
    April 14 2013 22: 19
    Quote: Normal
    Dear John, I read your posts only because no one else can find such a natural, pure and bright idiocy in them. I beg you, do not leave us without your creativity. You are a unique instance that managed to preserve in itself childish naivety, stupidity and spontaneity and was not embarrassed to use them publicly. Take care of yourself, without you, the discussion will become banal and boring for adults.
    B. "Normal"


    I respect people who can express MY thoughts clearly and clearly. good drinks
  61. +2
    April 14 2013 22: 24
    The title of the article is loud and it is a pity that it corresponds to reality. “Yes, he is a son of a bitch, but he is my son of a bitch” - this is the policy of GDP towards the “elite” of the Russian Federation
  62. +3
    April 14 2013 22: 27
    Why doesn't Putin notice the scoundrels?

    Lies, blatant lies! Vladimir Vladimirovich notices them very well, appreciates them, loves them, covers them, appoints them as ministers, plenipotentiaries, and TV program hosts.
    1. NOBODY EXCEPT US
      +1
      April 14 2013 23: 49
      I agree with you,,.,..a fisherman sees a fisherman from afar...and also....a raven will not peck out a crow's eye.....folk wisdom....
  63. +3
    April 14 2013 22: 32
    Putin, Putin, Putin - is he really the only one who sees his team of like-minded people - no one, he is alone. If something happens, there will be no Putin, what’s next?
  64. 0
    April 15 2013 02: 38
    Yes, this is happening all over the country... In Russian industry, instead of competent technical specialists and experienced production organizers, they put the “best effective” top managers, polished boys in the boots of former furniture makers or waiters, after which only ruins from the factories remain... Who needs this destruction of the industrial foundations of the Russian state? Let the competent authorities sort it out... There is also the government and the president... Although in this case there is no particular need to understand it... The whole plant for its leader is worth something!!!
  65. 0
    April 15 2013 02: 43
    And where is my comment, dear ones? I think I'm authorized by you? Please explain if you can!?
  66. -3
    April 15 2013 02: 59
    Yes, Putin alone is not enough for everyone. Vladimir Vladimirovich is just a man... In this case, it is interesting to analyze the personnel policy of I.V. Stalin...After all, technically educated personnel decide a lot, if not everything!..
    1. +3
      April 15 2013 05: 50
      He is not just a man, he is the President! In his hands is the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the FSB, the Prosecutor's Office, etc. If he wanted to, he would do it!
  67. -3
    April 15 2013 02: 59
    Yes, Putin alone is not enough for everyone. Vladimir Vladimirovich is just a man... In this case, it is interesting to analyze the personnel policy of I.V. Stalin...After all, technically educated personnel decide a lot, if not everything!..
  68. UFO
    0
    April 15 2013 03: 35
    There is a feeling that some “boundaries of his activities” have been imposed on Putin. The fact is that officials, going through all the stages of “rising to the top,” find themselves so “smeared and mixed up” at different stages of “growth” that Putin really has no one to choose from. Indeed, if you leave only the honest and pure, then there will be no one left “at the top”! Because there are NO such people there! The bureaucratic system weeds out such people. So he has to choose the “lesser evil”. In general, of course, all this “undercover struggle” leaves a heavy impression. sad
  69. 0
    April 15 2013 04: 26
    Let's take a reasonable look at the whole situation being discussed here about Putin. Some criticize, some praise!" He himself is a thief, one gang, a henchman of "someone, somewhere, from something."
    Let's say one of the versions in support of "praises". According to the constitution, you cannot give more than two. Only two terms can a president be in power. In a row! 4 years term. And now the end of 2007. Power is coming to an end. Reforms, plans for the development, revival of a strong Russia, the fight against colonization, everything this is only at the stage of development. Since “breaking does not build”, and many things have been broken (stolen, destroyed) forever, then building is not a matter of waving a wand. So Mr. Putin thinks - there is a lot of greed and tyranny all around, the type of people has grown (established) in power, with outright Russophobic sentiments, which means in the future these will intensify and multiply exponentially throughout the country. Not only in power. There are almost 1 in 1000 people with a normal view. There are no really strong opponents! Zyuganov, Zhirinovsky, Prokhorov, Mironov ?!)) There are also no equal successors in the political sense. There is someone who grew up before our eyes and hands, but is weak-willed. For the first time, you can help him hold the vector of arrangement in his hands. But the “plush” does not come alone. He also has his own team, and this is a collective background. And suddenly this “background” has POWER! Limitless. Limitless power is illness. Severe, difficult to remove. Reason, strategic thinking and power, this combination is not often found in those to whom it fell from the “heaven”. I emphasize from the “heaven”, because “one of” and “the most important” the difference is significant. Therefore, observing that complete leapfrog is happening both with the “heir” and with his “opponents”, there are loud examples of the same situation in assessing the events in Libya. The situation is 08.08.08/XNUMX/XNUMX. The decision comes to put yourself forward to continue what has begun. Continuing the revival of the country. Increasing the period and promotion here is also a forced move. It turned out that there is really no worthy opposition, no worthy successors, there is a lot of work. Therefore, the process of change, the process of revival is evolutionary, that is, not to cut, but to untie. In the process of such evolution, all the negativity manifests itself outward. Fear those in power lose, and therefore are “highlighted”. Both themselves and those behind them with mustaches.
    This is just a positive example in my understanding. There are also negative ones. But first of all, all the options from the “Who is Putin” series come from a neutral analysis, modeling of the situation. Neutral comparison. A lot of actions happening above also happen below, around us at work, in business, in family life. All people. All people. All creatures of God. In reality, none of us will know how it was! And whoever finds out will not be interested in talking about it. Stalin is not enough as an example? Or Lenin? Soon it’s been a century since Russia has radically changed its path. And how many opinions, in just three generations. The further it goes, the darker it gets. But the truth is somewhere out there....
    That's it, that's it. bully
  70. -2
    April 15 2013 04: 26
    Let's take a reasonable look at the whole situation being discussed here about Putin. Some criticize, some praise!" He himself is a thief, one gang, a henchman of "someone, somewhere, from something."
    Let's say one of the versions in support of "praises". According to the constitution, you cannot give more than two. Only two terms can a president be in power. In a row! 4 years term. And now the end of 2007. Power is coming to an end. Reforms, plans for the development, revival of a strong Russia, the fight against colonization, everything this is only at the stage of development. Since “breaking does not build”, and many things have been broken (stolen, destroyed) forever, then building is not a matter of waving a wand. So Mr. Putin thinks - there is a lot of greed and tyranny all around, the type of people has grown (established) in power, with outright Russophobic sentiments, which means in the future these will intensify and multiply exponentially throughout the country. Not only in power. There are almost 1 in 1000 people with a normal view. There are no really strong opponents! Zyuganov, Zhirinovsky, Prokhorov, Mironov ?!))
    There are also no equal successors in the political sense. There is someone who grew up before our eyes and hands, but is weak-willed. For the first time, you can help him hold the vector of arrangement in his hands. But the “plush” does not come alone. He also has his own team, and this is a collective background. And suddenly this “background” has POWER! Limitless. Limitless power is illness. Severe, difficult to remove. Reason, strategic thinking and power, this combination is not often found in those to whom it fell from the “heaven”. I emphasize from the “heaven”, because “one of” and “the most important” the difference is significant. Therefore, observing that complete leapfrog is happening both with the “heir” and with his “opponents”, there are loud examples of the same situation in assessing the events in Libya. The situation is 08.08.08/XNUMX/XNUMX. The decision comes to put yourself forward to continue what has begun. Continuing the revival of the country. Increasing the period and promotion here is also a forced move. It turned out that there is really no worthy opposition, no worthy successors, there is a lot of work. Therefore, the process of change, the process of revival is evolutionary, that is, not to cut, but to untie. In the process of such evolution, all the negativity manifests itself outward. Fear those in power lose, and therefore are “highlighted”. Both themselves and those behind them with mustaches.
    This is just a positive example in my understanding. There are also negative ones. But first of all, all the options from the “Who is Putin” series come from a neutral analysis, modeling of the situation. Neutral comparison. A lot of actions happening above also happen below, around us at work, in business, in family life. All people. All people. All creatures of God. In reality, none of us will know how it was! And whoever finds out will not be interested in talking about it. Stalin is not enough as an example? Or Lenin? Soon it’s been a century since Russia has radically changed its path. And how many opinions, in just three generations. The further it goes, the darker it gets. But the truth is somewhere out there....
    That's it, that's it. bully
  71. stranik72
    +1
    April 15 2013 06: 19
    Gentlemen, in principle, nothing changes, the economy and aircraft industry are ruled by “effective” mangers, the removal from work of the General Designers - helicopter pilots Samusenko-Mil and Mikheev-Kamov, went unnoticed, this government does not need a strong Russia, it needs a garbage dump where they can dump waste and extract oil All.
  72. lilit.193
    +1
    April 15 2013 17: 36
    Why doesn't he notice? There are many answers here: he doesn’t want to, he can’t, he didn’t ask, or, on the contrary, he asked, it’s profitable, profitable, laziness, not for fun or for fun. Choose what you like. But remember that only Putin himself knows the correct answer. But he will never tell it to anyone. wink
  73. mixa
    0
    April 18 2013 19: 55
    Yes, if the Jew doesn’t take it, everything goes to hell. ENERGY IS FULL OF PI....Ts. In our city, the thermal power plant doesn’t invest a single spear, they don’t repair the old one...although they are building a new steam-gas generator next to it, but it doesn’t produce heat, only current. ...the old thing is dying, and then they said that they will sell the TDK-5, the losses will be nothing.... the state will probably buy it at exorbitant prices and invest 1000000000........
  74. user3970
    0
    April 19 2013 23: 34
    The statement of the President of Singapore (a country that completely eradicated corruption in the shortest possible time) has already been quoted here. So he said, to defeat corruption, start with your relatives and friends... Regarding V.V.P... I was thinking: what kind of hook should be on which the Family (Yeltsin and others) holds V.V. .P. ?Theft in St. Petersburg under Sobchak? Well, everyone in St. Petersburg knows about this. And then information leaked to RENTV that when Berezovsky, when he was Secretary of the Security Council, in Moscow, at the LogoVAZ reception house, he organized parties for friends and the right people, bringing in and providing guests with young girls. And I'm sure the recordings of these parties are preserved in the right place. A V.V.P. at that time he was the head of the presidential administration...The Americans estimated the property under the control of the Russian presidential administration at 11 trillion dollars. This estimate was made during Yeltsin's reign. And Berezovsky loved money.
  75. +4
    April 26 2013 00: 10
    It’s unclear why he doesn’t imprison Serdyukov, Vasilyeva, Chubais, Gorbachev, etc.

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