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Why Putin does not notice the villains?

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In Samara, panic among pensioners. A terrible thing - the executive director of OAO Kuznetsov, Yury Yeliseyev, did not manage to take over 3 on April, and then, on April 6, Anatoly Chubais himself “entered” the city and began to agitate to invest in nanotechnology. Incredulous pensioners rushed to banks to withdraw deposits just in case.

The Samara region stands on specific things - the auto industry, the aviation industry, the chemical industry, rocket and aviation engine building. But in one fell swoop, one personnel decision to fill up the basic enterprise for the province - have already passed. For Samara aircraft manufacturers, Eliseev’s departure is a tragedy. And for the entire aircraft industry too.

Spring exacerbation

Since April 4, this post of the executive director of OAO Kuznetsov has been occupied by typical clerk, member of the board of directors of the company Nikolay Yakushin, who previously worked in Roskosmos structures. His speeches are more suitable for United Russia conferences. And the professionals remained at a loss:

- Yakushin spoke for two hours - nobody understood anything. Remember Gorbachev - “To begin, to entice, to accelerate ...”

Hurry, fussing managers nest Medvedev. The beginning of April showed that the “Manturians” decided to finally finish off the aircraft industry. Otherwise, why were they forced to throw a statement “on their own” on the table by a single professional engine builder Yuri Eliseev.

Recall that the entire Long-Range Aviation of the Russian Air Force depends on the engines of OAO Kuznetsov. It is well known that a strategic enterprise under the yoke of endless reforms has been bent over the past decade, and with it the “strategists” readiness has fallen. For many years, plans for a state defense order and for supplying gas pumping stations to Gazprom have not been fulfilled. In 2008, the flight tests of the innovative NK-93 aircraft engine were frustrated. Scored billions of rubles in debt. Aircraft engines and Gazprom aggregates taken from the military for repair and modernization disappeared in an unknown direction.
Finally, in November, 2011 appeared the rarest reason to rejoice over the competent personnel decision of the United Engine Building Corporation (UEC) and the Ministry of Industry and Trade - they removed the “terminator” N. Nikitin from Kuznetsov and appointed Yuriy Eliseev, a respected professional engine builder in the industry. Eliseev at Kuznetsov had to start with crap toilets and correct the predecessor personnel policy. They say, he came to 10-th workshop, there they make the most difficult automation for rocket engines. In front of him a polished boy in boots shuffles around.

- Who are you? - asks Yuri Sergeyevich.
- Master!
- Where did you work before?
- In the restaurant.

It is clear that after this dialogue a real master appeared in the workshop, and not someone's protege. Yuri Yeliseyev managed to halve the company's losses in just one year - from 730 to 362 million rubles. Revenue increased from 2,6 billion to 4,4 billion rubles. He has always believed that there are no technical barriers to the implementation of plans. There are still designers and engineers who can solve the most ambitious tasks. Only the time factor and the absence of financial leverage can interfere. When he came to an executive director at Kuznetsov, he immediately said that in a few years it would be the best and most modern enterprise in the industry. And began a mad job.

For the first time, the plan for the state defense order was fulfilled, little by little they began to pay off debts, production started to rhythmically, the design potential of the enterprise began to recover. The NK-33 rocket engines for Russian and US space programs are being tested and transmitted to customers. There are real plans for new aircraft engines. It seemed about to be returned under the wing of the flying laboratory — to complete the tests — the NK-93 high-powered aircraft engine promising the unique efficiency — Russia simply does not have another “breakthrough” project in this area.

This suggests only two options for understanding the situation. The first, that the illiterate (in the sense of professional training) pests from the Ministry of Industry and Trade and the UEC (I never believe that such key decisions are passing by the profile minister) decided that “the moor did his job, the moor can leave” - it's time to free up a warm place for another rogue with iphone. Everything is clear here - it smelled of money. These villains do not know that the iPhone critical technologies do not raise, then the identity and knowledge of the subject required. The second option is even more vile - the situation does not suit the enemies of the country, that the once mighty enterprise begins to rise from the ashes, confuses secret plans for the collapse of the industry. Why scare Washington with new engines for missile carriers? So did not agree.

Cornered

There was already a rally in support of the manager at the plant - 450 people went against the criminal stupidity imposed from above. Samara workers, engineers, designers, technologists write an appeal to the Kremlin - there is a “king-father”, he will judge: “... We ask you to pay attention to the opinion of the 11-thousandth collective of the enterprise: leave Yu.S. Eliseev as the executive director of OJSC KUZNETSOV.

But letters of appeal of similar content to V. Putin’s name for the presidential administration are not newsthere were a lot of them. Therefore, the collective has one way out - to be not a herd controlled by swindlers, but to put in place the liquidators of the technological, economic and defense potential of the country themselves. Judging by the letter, Kuznetsov workers are not all the same. And there should be support - it’s not for nothing that the president headed and blessed the movement with the many saying title “Popular Front”. We are sure that the Governor of the Samara Region Nikolai Merkushkin will support us. He has already confirmed by deeds that his main task is to ensure the growth of the industrial potential of the region. And then he had a knife in his back.

For comparison - GAZ Group shows record growth. This week Dm. Medvedev with blessing blessed a new model in production - the GAZel NEXT. And why? Yes, because the president of the company since 2009 has been working as a world-renowned specialist in the automotive industry, Swede Bo Andersson. Although the "Varyag", but very effective. Only in the aviation industry are efficient and decent leaders not in court.
When V. Masalov (a personnel financier!), General Director of UC United Engine Corporation Corporation, declares that he does not see prospects at Kuznetsov, he deliberately lies or does not understand anything at all in real business.

In addition to the production of modernized engines for strategic aviation, Russian Railways will be handed over the second gas turbine carrier in May, when ordering such unique locomotives of record thrust-bearing capacity on the 2020 before the 40 year. More about 200 pieces want to get India. The new strategic missile carrier PAK DA for long-range aviation, will require new engines. French from Superjet on it you will not put. Gazprom is supplied with 25-megawatt gas pumping stations, new, even more powerful ones are being developed. There are many more engineering tasks that can be solved in Samara. And the illiterate crooks from state corporations and the Ministry of Industry and Trade prefer to bury theirs in order to pay in hard currency to the same Siemens. This is how money is squandered - instead of ordering the Kuznetsov plating line in Tambov for 640 million rubles, “accountants” from the UEC buy in the West for 1 billion 700 million rubles. How can we raise industry if gentlemen prefer to finance production in Germany or the Czech Republic?

Personality and antipodes

What is not acceptable Yuri Eliseev? He is too independent. Minister D. Manturov blamed even the fact that “The Arguments of the Week” did not abandon the topic of the NK-93 aircraft engine. We generally tried not to mention his name in connection with this development, information about the situation at the enterprise was taken from other sources. So we were asked by everyone who was interested in taking Eliseev’s enterprise out of a death pike:

- Minister Manturov is vindictive by nature, do not touch Yuri Sergeyevich now, so as not to harm.

We did not touch. But they still got it - chiefs-merchants from the UEC ordered to sell one of the two industrial sites of OAO Kuznetsov for commercial development. Yeliseyev perfectly understood what it means to bury Samara as the center of aircraft engine building and turn into a regular repair plant. It is at SNTK that the entire scientific and design base, unique finishing and test benches are located. Naturally, Eliseev refused to execute the wrecking order. Yes, even at a meeting with Prime Minister Dm. Medvedev honestly reported on the actual state with the conclusion and financing of the state defense order - the quarter has already passed, and the bins are empty. In addition, the officials have already announced the “strategic task” - from 82 thousand engine manufacturers leave 19,5 thousand. The prime minister, once again showing “state wisdom,” and this was swallowed: “I think that the situation in the engine industry is not bad.” And then Eliseev could not stand it, spoke:

- There is still no contract on state defense order (it was at the end of February). And in November, it will already be necessary to account for its execution.
Making aircraft engines is not a small-sized rivet; the production cycle of one takes months. Stop the conveyor, and then cut the switch and run on the new will not work. Piece specialists, if they run, cannot be replaced by yesterday’s schoolchildren:

- If you deceive people once more, then you can not spin the flywheel of production. And how Moscow scoundrels need such a truthful person? Conclusion - remove it is dangerous. Suddenly, NK-93 will lift onto the wing, what then to do? It turns out that when the chairman of the Federation Council, Valentina Matvienko, called the KLA “thief,” she assigned the same title to the adjacent JDC. Valentina Ivanovna ought to stand up for Eliseev. If, according to the state, Yury Sergeevich should not be dismissed, but put at the head of the entire UEC, with the broadest powers. Oh, he will be able to make this colossus function effectively, he will find and place the real people at key points.

Colonel-General Anatoly Sitnov made the personnel policy in the aircraft industry a long time ago diagnosis:
- Assign a "neznaek" - people who can only carry out orders for the manipulation of financial flows. Destroy those who are able to generate ideas and implement them. It is known that even one true professional often determines the development of an entire industry. In practice, purposeful work is being done on decapitating the aviation industry, which will lead to a natural result - stagnation and incapacity.

Remember the great movie "Chairman"? There, Yegor Trubnikov, obsessed with work (his role was played by Mikhail Ulyanov), the collective farmers defended. And who stood by the mountain to protect Yuri Eliseev? Littered, wrote a letter to the president and calmed down. And behind this peace and indifference is the fate of the country and its ability to speak on equal terms with “partners” all over the world. Everything that the gang of managers does is in no way connected with the organization of the production of competitive products in Russia. It is not surprising that the main topic for conversations among sociologists and financiers at the head of the high-tech industry remains Cyprus offshore. The state corporations are turning, despite the high-quality PR, into a latrine where our money and expectations dissolve. Managers have forgotten that the prefix "state" means "our everything."

And this is a betrayal and undermining the country's defense. I wonder where the Manturovs will run when the American drones start circling over the Kremlin?

Why Putin does not notice the villains?
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  1. My address
    My address April 14 2013 07: 47 New
    -36
    He is weak head.
    1. esaul
      esaul April 14 2013 07: 58 New
      36
      Quote: My address
      He is weak head.


      good afternoon hi Excuse me, who did you mean? If - Putin, then I have no choice but to respond to your "umo" conclusion to place an emoticon in your address - fool
      As for the situation with the Samara enterprise, I understand the pain of the author of the article, I support his efforts and calls for support to save his native plant, but (in response to the mournful posts in the spirit of "everyone has gone!") I consider it premature to sprinkle ash on your head. Most likely the situation has not yet reached the level of intervention of the First Person. The fact that Eliseev was forced to put a statement on the table does not mean that "the resignation is accepted." In general, nothing changes in the sublunary world ... I recall the analogy with the butting of Sukhoi with Antonov when the USSR was. There, the legendary “weaving” of Sukhoi was stolen because of the banal nepotism of Antonov with the first persons of the state, and the “dry” was “dropped”, despite the mass of advanced technical solutions used in the “hundred”.
      And yet ... It is difficult for us (many here - on the site) to judge everything that happens at the described enterprise, what subtle combinations are played there. But, nevertheless, I believe that we should collectively support the call of the Aviadvigatel collective and ask the Administration on our "behalf" to send the appropriate letters (call it what you like), both to the collective and to those structures on which fate depends and successful activity vital for the country enterprise.
      Good morning everyone! hi

      A day has passed and now - 0.45 Novosibirsk. Dear Colleagues ! Those who supported my comment! I thank you and, as you see, more of us! More than those who look at life with optimism and faith in the best. It is you who provide the necessary human support to those processes that will bring our country to a decent level. It is you who, without whining and evil hissing, work every day. It is you who deserve a better future and, I am sure, we will have it. Good luck to you guys. And for today - good night! hi
      1. My address
        My address April 14 2013 08: 45 New
        36
        Pay attention to the work of Putin. He is again engaged in what was in the first presidency - corruption, forestry, mega projects such as Sochi (EXPO-2020), affordable medicines, etc. Thank God, that cooled to the special economic zones, Medvedev would have cooled. What's this? Signs of a manager? I myself am a production manager, not an office manager or even a supervisor, and with such effectiveness I will trample, but rather I will quit myself with shame. How to deal with thieves and idlers I know and can and successfully fought in dangerous 90. True, workers steal trivialities, but the leaders and the nut on the M5 will not revolt - and they are ashamed and afraid. Slackers or re-educated or persecuted.
        1. esaul
          esaul April 14 2013 09: 00 New
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          Quote: My address
          Pay attention to the work of Putin. He is again engaged in what was in the first presidency - corruption, forestry, megaprojects such as Sochi (EXPO-2020), affordable drugs, etc.

          Oh, how I agree with you ...! wink Of course, it would be better if he did what he drank, cut through the country, as they say - “sold face”, hung out on foreign tours and paid less attention to the activities of the Chubais-Serdyukov-bulk-Caspars
          How dare he do to strengthen the country and strengthen the economy! This is not presidential!
          And you talk about 90 very colorfully. Girls like to listen to it from their boyfriends very much - about the life of their admirer full of danger. But, here, after all, people look at everything a little differently.
          1. Patriot of Russia
            Patriot of Russia April 14 2013 10: 30 New
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            Why Putin does not notice the villains?

            Yes, it's just a very profitable business. not notice the villains, not notice theft.
            people do not notice
            1. Geisenberg
              Geisenberg April 14 2013 15: 21 New
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              Quote: Patriot of Russia
              Why Putin does not notice the villains?

              Yes, it's just a very profitable business. not notice the villains, not notice theft.
              people do not notice


              A very profitable business is sitting in the forum and screaming with a good obscenity that everything is gone. Win-win, in your forehead you can continue to yell. In one case, he was right, in the other that corruption. etc. If you have something to say, say it, but if you squeal, it’s better to shut up.
          2. Letun
            Letun April 14 2013 11: 16 New
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            Quote: esaul
            How dare he do to strengthen the country and strengthen the economy! This is not presidential!

            Does he do this? Then please indicate in which place. The science? Education? Medicine? Industry? Strengthening the economy? lol you probably mean the construction of oil and gas pipelines to drive even more raw materials abroad? Serdyukov and Vasilyeva deserve to be shot, but what do we all see? Comedy Chubais, who has done so much trouble for Russia, his mother still breaks everything that he is trusted to lead.
            Gagarin flew into space 16 years after the end of the war, after which the country was in ruins! Putin has been steering the state for 13 years, feel the difference. Here I am constantly reading the comments of Putinofilov, and of course I'm sorry, but I get the impression that you have bad eyes because you see what is not there and you absolutely do not see what has become.
            1. WS
              WS April 14 2013 12: 16 New
              +5
              Gagarin flew into space after 16 years, it was a fear of a repetition of the Second World War, who is now afraid? Shoot Serdyukov and Vasilyev? We have a democratic state, say the tyrant. And so along the way, the firing squad will also have to be shot
            2. Nick
              Nick April 14 2013 12: 24 New
              +8
              Quote: Letun
              Gagarin flew into space 16 years after the end of the war, after which the country was in ruins!

              Then the country was independent.
              Quote: Letun
              Putin has been steering the state for 13 years,

              Well, not 12, but 9 years, to be exact. And it doesn’t “steer,” but so far it is only overcoming Russia's dependence on world hegemon. It overcomes generally successfully, otherwise our foreign "friends" would not have organized permanent persecution of Putin on an international scale, and in Russia too, including this site there is "mishandled bought Cossacks "... Guess who ...
              1. Dim Dim
                Dim Dim April 14 2013 14: 22 New
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                Yes, Putin is overcoming addiction, only from whom? Judging by his inaction in putting things in order even on the revealed crimes, he cannot overcome the dependence on the Yeltsin team, which nominated him from scratch for the first night, and then for the presidency. When Serdyukov is imprisoned and hanged on the red square of Chubais, I may believe that the president is overcoming something and is skmeto fighting, but for now. There is no trust in him!
                1. d.gksueyjd
                  d.gksueyjd April 14 2013 22: 20 New
                  +5
                  No need to shoot and hang anyone, you need to hit the dearest to them - confiscate the stolen goods from the country.
              2. Letun
                Letun April 14 2013 15: 15 New
                +3
                Quote: Nick
                on this site there are "mishandled bought Cossacks" ... Guess who ...

                Well, apparently, all those who do not sing hosannas to Vladimir Vladimirovich laughing
                Okay, I'll run to the car dealership, for the money that the State Department Maybach paid me to buy wassat
                1. d_trader
                  d_trader April 14 2013 15: 38 New
                  +3
                  Yes, it is not necessary that the state department pays you, it is rather leisurely and systematically to do brainwashing through the media, not to show objectionable materials, to clear out the truth, to sow lies and voila! Putin is bad everyone else is no better and in general everything is bad! Here is the doctrine of our TV and not only it. As a result, we have what we have: stupid young people who are not interested in anything and brainwashed by the majority of the population who do not want and do not want to understand the essence. Well, it looks like you are one of them and this is in the best case (if the State Department does not pay you) After all, they said to us: Don’t be interested in politics, politics is a dirty business. Look at the videos in the YouTube of Evgeny Fedorov and for God's sake just don’t write that he is a provocateur of a liar and an inventor, or please, arguments with calculations that you do not agree with. I advise you to look if you are from the first category of those listed, then it will be worthwhile, if you have the striped flag in your hands and know that everything has its beginning and its end, and Russia has been and will be!
                  1. Letun
                    Letun April 14 2013 20: 17 New
                    +4
                    Quote: d_trader
                    As a result, we have what we have: stupid young people who are not interested in anything and brainwashed by the majority of the population who do not want and do not want to understand the essence. It looks like you are one of them and this is at best

                    Well, calling me youth, you undoubtedly compliment me laughing
                    But calling a stranger a person stupid at best, you, it seems to me, expose your intellect in a bad light.
                    And yes, I wonder what kind of media you are watching? I mean those where they say that:
                    Quote: d_trader
                    Putin is bad everyone else is no better and in general everything is bad!
                    Here is the doctrine of our TV and not only it.

                    As I understand it, we live in different countries? Here in Russia, in all news releases, Putin and Medvedev have just literally not been kissed in the ass (probably the guards are not letting this close). And as I understand it, the only way to find out how people live in Russia, in the place where you live, is really to draw information from your media, but for me, for example, just go out, visit relatives in the hospital, go to the factory where I work, communicate with the gentlemen of the police who will stop my purchased with the money of the State Department Maybach lol And now, based on the totality of information received in such a simple way, my love for Vladimir Vladimirovich for some reason stubbornly strives for zero. I would be glad to love my president, honestly, but somehow it doesn’t work out crying
                    1. d_trader
                      d_trader April 14 2013 21: 04 New
                      -2
                      I did not call you youth, do not flatter yourself, and the word dumb does not apply to you, do not distort. What the news shows is half cut out. He says that they don’t show on the box. They simply leave neutral information. Do you not understand this? For your information, I also live in Russia. Distract yourself a little from the cliches and you will see an amazing picture and in some places even scary believe me. Through the looking glass. Once again, I advise you to carefully look at Evgeny Fedorov. Want to assemble a jigsaw puzzle? Follow my advice.
                2. Nick
                  Nick April 14 2013 21: 32 New
                  +2
                  Quote: Letun
                  Well, apparently, all those who do not sing hosannas to Vladimir Vladimirovich

                  Do not guess. Those who throw shit-mo at the fan ... wink
              3. elmi
                elmi April 14 2013 15: 30 New
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                Quote: Nick
                Overcomes generally successfully, otherwise our foreign "friends" would not organized Putin's permanent persecution on an international scale

                Maybe this is a double game? GDP criticized in the West to make it seem their in Russia, among the people who are a fighter with the West, so that they stay in power longer?
                1. Nick
                  Nick April 14 2013 21: 22 New
                  +7
                  Quote: elmi
                  Maybe this is a double game? In the West, they criticize the GDP so that it would appear to be its own in Russia among the people who are a fighter with the West,

                  Glad you are trying to analyze. Try to analyze the situation further. Putin launched the construction of new nuclear submarines, new ICBMs and air defense systems, the country creates new models of military equipment PAK FA, Su-35, Su-34, Ka-52, Mi-28, etc. new platforms for armored vehicles, Armata , "Kurganets," etc. That is, Putin, in fact, makes Russia stronger both militarily and economically. Politically, Russia, together with China, is blocking Western Syrian initiatives at the UN. Does the West like all this? I don’t think so. They, a strong, independent Russia, IMHO, are not needed, and therefore, the initiator of these changes in Russia is not needed, - Putin.
                  1. elmi
                    elmi April 14 2013 22: 15 New
                    +7
                    Quote: Nick
                    Glad you are trying to analyze.

                    Why am I trying? everything is obvious - I suppose, but not affirm. It’s just somehow guarded, or perhaps surprised: that somehow before the election, the rating of GDP and the party of United Russia began to fall rapidly, maybe people really got tired of the monopoly of one party, and so on TV on the central channel we showed a documentary about Putin shot by English reporters! that is, from England and GDP was in it in positive tones. This surprised me very much. After all, the West constantly scolds our power, GDP and Russia as a whole, what is happening now, but then it was quite the opposite and right before the elections. So, a thought flashed through my mind - the assumption that before the elections in England they were preoccupied with a possible change of power and issued a report of a good character.
                    Quote: Nick
                    Try to analyze the situation further. Putin launched the construction of new nuclear submarines, new ICBMs and air defense systems, the country creates new models of military equipment PAK FA, Su-35, Su-34, Ka-52, Mi-28, etc. new platforms for armored vehicles are created, Armata , Kurganets, etc. That is, Putin, in fact, makes Russia stronger both militarily and economically. Politically, Russia, together with China, is blocking Western initiatives at the UN. Does the West like all this? I don’t think so. They, a strong, independent Russia, IMHO, are not needed, and therefore, the initiator of these changes in Russia is not needed, - Putin.

                    I agree with you what makes GDP I like, but what happens: "The head does not know what hands and feet do?" it's me that there is a contradiction - GDP revives Russia, and most of the environment harms. And it’s hard for me to believe that the highest official - the PRESIDENT cannot put things in order: to plant Serdyukov, Chubais, Gorbachev and other traitors, because Lukashenko has put things in order, he can. We are all patriots of Russia and we want its prosperity, but why is it hammered into our heads that only the current government is capable of correcting and reviving everything? Really 12 years were not enough? We have many capable politicians at the Primakov level, but they will not give them power.
                2. anarh
                  anarh April 14 2013 22: 58 New
                  0
                  Can. smile

                  -Monya, why are you kidding me?
                  You say that you’ve gathered in Berdichev,
                  so I thought that you wave to Odessa,
                  and in the meantime you’ll go to Berdichev.
                  smile
                  1. elmi
                    elmi April 14 2013 23: 15 New
                    +3
                    Quote: anarh
                    -Monya, why are you kidding me?
                    You say that you’ve gathered in Berdichev,
                    so I thought that you wave to Odessa,
                    and in the meantime you’ll go to Berdichev.

                    Time will tell who went where. The truth is somewhere near... wink
              4. d.gksueyjd
                d.gksueyjd April 14 2013 22: 17 New
                0
                12, not 9 under Medvedev, he was in power.
            3. Col.
              Col. April 14 2013 12: 37 New
              +7
              Quote: Letun
              Here I am constantly reading the comments of Putinofilov, and I'm sorry of course, but I get the impression that you have bad eyes because you see what is not there and you absolutely do not see what has become.

              Yes, they’re just zombified by the pro-Putin Lisoblu media. Now what do people need? "Get some good taste," "Pin up with friends," and stuff like that ... Freedom to drink, smoke, prick, mow down from the army. Democracy, eprst!
              1. djon3volta
                djon3volta April 14 2013 13: 03 New
                -6
                Quote: Colonel
                pro-Putin media

                and not the pro-Putin media, what kind of media is it? and the main thing is what is being printed there? do you find out what kind of media is in Russia? What cares more about who, where and how much has stolen, or where something new is open, done, built?
              2. esaul
                esaul April 14 2013 21: 22 New
                +3
                COLONEL

                Greetings Andrew hi Something you began to bypass with your comments on articles relating to the personality of Putin. I really thought - what happened? Or sick (you can answer this in the spirit of Putin - "Do not wait!" laughing ), or what kind of adventure happened? But no. Everything is still. As before, you prefer not to see other people's successes (in this case, the President’s affairs) point blank; you prefer to stop other people's achievements (again Putin’s) with dirt, but as soon as the conversation touches on your personal affairs and merits, then here everyone should kneel before you. I remember how you crucified, describing your talents and achievements. It goes without saying! wink
                Quote: Colonel
                Yes, they’re just zombified by the pro-Putin Lisoblu media.
                Fuck with him - with some kind of DMB, take him seriously ... But, you are the editor! A man with more than one education and a handshake from the teaching staff (after all, they themselves were proud to broadcast that!), And suddenly again you rush to the beaten, dragged-out insults ... Ay-ah-ah!
                1. Nick
                  Nick April 14 2013 21: 38 New
                  -2
                  Quote: esaul
                  Greetings, Andrey. Something you began to bypass in your comments on articles relating to the personality of Putin. I really thought - what happened? Or was sick (you can answer this in the spirit of Putin - "Do not wait!"), Or what kind of adventure happened?

                  Yes, he just stopped funding from a foreign agent ... and now it goes again ... bully
                2. Col.
                  Col. April 14 2013 22: 51 New
                  0
                  Quote: esaul
                  So you began to bypass comments on articles relating to Putin’s personality.

                  Greetings opponent! fellow For me, his personality is extremely clear, so I do not consider it necessary to once again spread the thought ... The fact that He introduced personnel lawlessness in the rank of state policy, none of the sane will not deny. What this bacchanalia turns into for the country is also understandable.
                  Further. I have already given the instruction below to the commander: "If you can’t prevent the booze, head it." With regard to corruption, the same thing! He leads it. Not blind or his idolaters can not see it.

                  Quote: esaul
                  and suddenly again rush to the beaten, dragged-out insults ... Ay-ah-ah

                  And I don’t think it’s shameful, I even like (I’ll not hide) to quote quotes, aphorisms, etc. The importance of the media in the formation of public opinion, the creation of the right mood, the upbringing of certain qualities in people has long been understood by politicians. "Give me the media, and I will turn any nation into a herd of pigs." (Goebbels) Is he wrong here? And vice versa: "A newspaper is not only a collective propagandist and agitator, but also a collective organizer!" (V.I. Lenin)
                  I perfectly remember the general orientation, mood, tone, style of the Soviet media, and I see what the current ones are doing (with rare exceptions). It’s hard to find normal words for their characteristics ...
            4. Prorox
              Prorox April 14 2013 13: 09 New
              +5
              Letun
              And you yourself belong to what ... filaments or just labels on others blurt out
              for review http://sdelanounas.ru/

              We wondered why Chubais had been at the top for so long, who so carefully guarded him, instructed, and did not really think about Putin’s “omnipotence”.
              Speaking of omnipotence. Why in 1929 Trotsky was expelled from the country by the "omnipotent bloody" Stalin I.F., and wasn’t spread out simply and without hassle, as a result, so much effort was spent by Beria and Sudoplatov to add the ice ax to the right place of Trotsky by Merkader in 1940, why was put off for 11 years.
              Quote: “Everything has its time,” from a very wise book.
            5. esaul
              esaul April 14 2013 21: 01 New
              +3
              Quote: Letun
              Then please indicate in which place. The science? Education? The medicine? Industry? Strengthening the economy?

              I understand that you, a colleague, can look at least at the video clip that Nevsky suggested today, or you are one of those who throw beads in front of you - it's a dead matter.
              Quote: Letun
              Serdyukov and Vasilyeva deserve to be shot, but what do we all see? Comedy Chubais, who has done so many troubles for Russia, his mother still breaks everything that he is trusted to lead

              the same - the cheapest trick from the cage of the pros polymer - to scratch out a couple of facts "testifying to the connivance of the authorities to corrupt officials" and recklessly stick them through the word ... you look - and the bread will scratch ...
              Quote: Letun
              Putinofilov,

              An interesting find! good So you are Putin FOB? In general - all sorts of different phobias, this is a sign of a pathological violation of one of the areas of the human psyche. Sorry...
              For me, this is tantamount to the current Russian liberal.
              Quote: Letun
              but I get the impression

              It has been said more than once that impressions are a subjective substance and can carry a false interpretation of current events if they are not based on a factual basis. It seems to Baran that his main enemy is the gate, not the cook ...
              Quote: Letun
              and you don’t see at all what has become.
              And I think that you put on the glasses of the cat Basilio and just do not want to see anything, except that you read in the blogs of all this neoliberal gopota.
              1. Nick
                Nick April 14 2013 21: 43 New
                -2
                Quote: esaul
                you are one of those to whom to throw beads - a dead matter.

                Beads are inedible, pigs like acorns, especially green ones ...
              2. Letun
                Letun April 15 2013 12: 34 New
                0
                Damn, that’s what I haven’t read to myself already from gentlemen of the fans of the Great and God-Like laughing It turns out I am a "stupid zombie youth", and a corrupt Cossack, and a pig in front of which throwing beads is not a noble thing, and a ram, and a pathological psycho, and even a cat Basilio smile Well, actually the level of opponents defending our charismatic leader is revealed. It is even more strange to read such reviews from the generals and marshals of this site.
            6. NOBODY EXCEPT US
              NOBODY EXCEPT US April 14 2013 23: 52 New
              0
              Another option ..... have access to the feeder ...
            7. NOBODY EXCEPT US
              NOBODY EXCEPT US April 14 2013 23: 53 New
              +1
              Another option .... have access to the feeder ....
            8. Dilshat
              Dilshat April 19 2013 19: 37 New
              0
              Yes, the campaign is not Comrade Putin, rather Mr. Putin.
          3. Nicholas C.
            Nicholas C. April 14 2013 11: 41 New
            +8
            Quote: esaul
            How dare he do to strengthen the country and strengthen the economy! This is not presidential!

            I respect Putin too. But what considerations have made him keep Chubais and Dimon-iPhone for so many years, I can’t understand. Inexplicably. I can’t believe the fairy tale that these are “effective managers”, I can only laugh, and even that is “bitter”.
          4. Normal
            Normal April 14 2013 12: 26 New
            +5
            Quote: esaul
            Of course, it would be better if he did what he drank, cut through the country, as they say - “sold face”, hung out on foreign tours and paid less attention to the activities of the Chubais-Serdyukov-bulk-Caspars

            "Ostap carried"
            That is what Putin is doing; trades a person (there is no news broadcast without the main TV star of Russia), dissects the country; Sochi, the Urals - on skiing, the Far East - on viburnum, As well as everywhere on fighters, flying tanks to extinguish fires, hang gliders, submarines and ships, combines and horses, and even on foot for ringing snow leopards.
            Well, when is it here:
            Quote: esaul
            to strengthen the country and strengthen the economy
            ??
            Of course, the president should not pay attention to Chubais-Serdyukov-bulk-Kasparov’s activities, since one cannot pay attention to a square ball and a seven-legged five-member. This is a field of activity for psychiatrists from small (and very guarded) psychiatric institutions.

            Quote: esaul
            And you talk about 90 very colorfully. Girls like to hear from their boyfriends very much - about the life of their admirer full of danger

            Then tell us about the vibrant, full of dangers and adventures activities of GDP in St. Petersburg in the 90's. How he worked there to strengthen the country and strengthen the economy by attracting German banks. The lights from Ivanov will be very pleased, but:
            Quote: esaul
            here, after all, people look at everything a little differently
            1. dmb
              dmb April 14 2013 17: 40 New
              +4
              Listen, well, you correspond to your nickname. It makes no sense to debate with the "officer". The other day, in one of the comments, a gradation of od singers was given, according to which the true Orthodox lord and the nickname of the American Catholic was classified as impassable Putiners, and the officer was meaningful. And it seems to me that they are standing together, because I did not see a meaningful assessment of what was happening both, and all arguments in the debate come down to labeling opponents and shouting slogans. I remember that Esaul spoke of the supreme wisdom of the leader shown by him when Serdyukov was appointed. After well-known events, he delicately circumvents this topic, but until there is a court decision on the case.
          5. Heccrbq
            Heccrbq April 14 2013 12: 27 New
            -9
            General Field Marshal, you’re a zombie id-from, and this is because you’re probably 25 years old, you still have a question for you, are you in Our movement?
            1. djon3volta
              djon3volta April 14 2013 13: 08 New
              -3
              Quote: Heccrbq
              are you in the Our movement?

              everyone who voted for Putin or praises him, automatically means Nashi? and pensioners are also Nashi? etozh how many millions of Nashi people in our country? 40 million Nashi people, out of 107 million who have the right to vote in the elections. Well, I’m 100 poods Nashi, the main nashist on this site)))
              1. Nick
                Nick April 14 2013 21: 48 New
                -3
                Quote: djon3volta
                everyone who voted for Putin or praises him automatically means nashi? and pensioners are also nashi? etozh how many millions nashi in our country? 40 million nashi

                Such, Eugene, are not friends with logic ...
          6. Heccrbq
            Heccrbq April 14 2013 12: 42 New
            -1
            By the way, Field Marshal, says something like that, first name and surname --- Marina Salier, now deceased? Here's to you about the art of your idol!
            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oilv2u5b5og&feature=related
            1. djon3volta
              djon3volta April 14 2013 13: 12 New
              -3
              Quote: Heccrbq
              Marina Salier, now deceased?

              during Salie there was a real hunger in St. Petersburg. when they gave her a kick, the people at least stopped starving, so she got angry at Putin.
              1. rolik
                rolik April 14 2013 13: 42 New
                11
                Quote: djon3volta
                , so she got angry at Putin.

                Greetings!
                Dissatisfied with GDP. Covers corruption, liber, weak leader.
                Good .... now questions.
                When was it better now or in the 90s ???
                Who do you see as president ????
                Everyone has the right to answer these two simple questions in their own way. My answer to these questions is this.
                1- I'm better now than in the 90s. When we waited for 6-7 months. When there were no orders, and everyone was as smart as he could in order to earn a penny. When the blue drunk coming to my city confused him with Astrakhan. What the fuck ... that president was. A drunken reptile, who has corrupted everything, has left all our secrets to the boys from the CIA and made them their advisers. I don’t think Ivy as a condom. He is simply the keeper of the chair, planted in it during the absence of the owner. Papa Zyu, he sold everyone in 1996, surrendered his victory to a drunk of the year. Preferring to sit out in the rear, in a warm place. And do not answer for anything, but only criticize. Now we have enough work, even overtime has appeared. We work as usual and it pleases. I don’t want in the 90s, I don’t want the first people in the state who do not need anything except a bubble and an iPhone, who speak the right words about equality and brotherhood, and at the same time sell their people for seats in the government.
                And the last question, who (at the moment) would like to see the president? Call me this person. I really want to know.
                1. elmi
                  elmi April 14 2013 15: 00 New
                  0
                  Quote: rolik
                  Who do you see as president ????

                  I would like Primakov E. M.
                2. elmi
                  elmi April 14 2013 15: 04 New
                  +5
                  Quote: rolik
                  And the last question, who (at the moment) would like to see the president? Call me this person. I really want to know.

                  I would like Primakov E. M.
                  1. itkul
                    itkul April 14 2013 16: 30 New
                    +1
                    Quote: elmi
                    I would like Primakov E. M.


                    But not too old, yet 83 of the year, it’s time for him to think forever, and not about Russia
                    1. rolik
                      rolik April 14 2013 17: 24 New
                      +6
                      Quote: itkul
                      And not too old, yet 83 years old,

                      Unfortunately Primakov, a stray man. To lead the country, these are huge, mainly on the nervous system, loads. And besides, Primakov is exactly the man who just happened to be in his place. Foreign policy is his hobby. Presidency is a slightly different topic.
                      1. elmi
                        elmi April 14 2013 18: 30 New
                        +7
                        Quote: rolik
                        Foreign policy is his hobby. The presidency is a slightly different topic.

                        Of course he’s elderly, but in terms of the presidency, I think that he is better than Medvedev
                      2. anarh
                        anarh April 14 2013 23: 14 New
                        +1
                        Why Medvedev?
                        You can compare with Yeltsin.
                      3. elmi
                        elmi April 15 2013 10: 52 New
                        +5
                        Quote: anarh
                        Why Medvedev?
                        You can compare with Yeltsin.

                        There is no Yeltsin, but Medvedev was in power, it would be better if Primakov was in place of Medvedev
                3. elmi
                  elmi April 14 2013 18: 22 New
                  +7
                  Quote: itkul
                  But not too old, yet 83 of the year, it’s time for him to think forever, and not about Russia

                  Unfortunately, too old, 20 years to slow down and just right
              2. Nick
                Nick April 14 2013 21: 52 New
                0
                Quote: elmi
                I would like Primakov E. M.

                Great candidate! Only he did not put her to the polls, unfortunately ... Maybe age?
            2. sergey32
              sergey32 April 14 2013 18: 52 New
              10
              I would like to see A. Lukashenko President of the Union State.
              1. Nick
                Nick April 14 2013 21: 54 New
                +1
                Quote: sergey32
                I would like to see A. Lukashenko President of the Union State.

                Yes, but he cannot be de jure president of Russia.
            3. d.gksueyjd
              d.gksueyjd April 18 2013 22: 05 New
              0
              Quote: rolik
              When the blue drunk coming to my city confused him with Astrakhan. What the fuck ... that president was. A drunken reptile who has corrupted everything, has given up

              It’s insulting that this drunken GDP was awarded the highest order of the Russian Federation, it didn’t send the main redhead privatizer to hell, it doesn’t interfere and actually covers thieves and traitors. And all that, he will solve these problems in good faith and for the citizens of the Russian Federation, he will be the BEST PRESIDENT. Look and read, there are questions to him, why doesn’t he?
        2. esaul
          esaul April 14 2013 21: 35 New
          +2
          Quote: Heccrbq
          Field Marshal

          Quote: Heccrbq
          last name


          Yes, the Russian language is strong ...! Evolves relentlessly.
          I heard something ... And - what? Recognized international authority? For me, this pro-liberal Madame is the same as you (the same is for YOU because you won’t understand otherwise.), Who used to debate over a bottle of beer in the company of the same intellectuals who masterfully blurted out “chasing” each other .
      2. Deniska999
        Deniska999 April 14 2013 17: 02 New
        +4
        And how much money has already been stolen in Sochi. It’s too early for us to deal with such projects.
        1. Nick
          Nick April 14 2013 21: 56 New
          +2
          Quote: Deniska999
          And how much money has already been stolen in Sochi. It’s too early for us to deal with such projects.

          Yes, in our 91st country was stolen! And you are Sochi ...
          1. sergeschern
            sergeschern April 19 2013 21: 12 New
            0
            So now everything is being stolen in a new way, and how! To the question from the title - because he himself is! A raven-raven, as you know, the eye will not hatch.
      3. yak69
        yak69 April 14 2013 18: 05 New
        +7
        Quote: esaul
        it would be better if he drank, drank around the country, as they say - "traded a face", hung out on a foreign tour and would pay less attention to the activities of the Chubais-Serdyukov-bulk-Caspars

        Interesting note, however!
        The whole country is already tired of his (pu) "occupation" by the chu-se-na-kasparov (as you call them). The result of his studies is visible everywhere and everywhere - in the government (the appointment of a bear, Lebanon, Manturov, Medina, the same stool), the movement of odious figures from armchair to armchair, an amazing scope of gambling that has never been seen before! And with impunity. Or, bear’s proposals, “a fine for stolen state money in a hundredfold amount, but not higher than 500 million rubles.” those. stole 5 billion rubles, paid 500 million rubles and live on! Stepashka from the joint venture offers not to plant goat-stealers - "let them work, they work out the damage!" So I want to exclaim "" you all about * ate or something !! "". You pour it in your eyes, you are all the dew of God!
        Koznokrad steals on the goats and steals, and PU is always good !!
        I propose supporters of PU to be considered accomplices of a state crime!
        No more no less.
        It is with your approval and your support (supporters of PU) that our country continues to slide into the abyss.
        1. Ivan Kalinovich
          Ivan Kalinovich April 14 2013 22: 20 New
          0
          Very sensible and timely comments, all the way .. considered an accomplice in a state crime!
        2. anarh
          anarh April 14 2013 23: 24 New
          +1
          By the end of the 90s, there were some debts in the treasury.
          And now there is something to steal, and it falls a little on the military-industrial complex.
          Progress, however.
          "Only at the expense of oil"
          Maybe.
          But there was oil in the 90s.
    2. Col.
      Col. April 14 2013 12: 32 New
      +8
      Quote: My address
      He is again engaged in what was in the first presidency - corruption,

      All the warriors know a joking wish to the commander: "If you can’t prevent the booze, head it." The same is true in the case of corruption! Here He leads it. Where are the pros and specialists in government ?! There are almost none! In almost all "bread places" in industry, the banking sector, etc. - proteges of GDP and DAM. Professionals, especially honest ones, are squeezed out from everywhere! Corruption is now the system of governing Russia!
    3. starshina78
      starshina78 April 14 2013 13: 51 New
      +9
      I don’t know what you are managing, and how, but, let's start one after another: Putin’s business is managed manually by the forest industry, then the fishing industry, and what else? Why does he have an Administration, a Government, a lot of officials? If they don’t carry out his decisions, “put the wheels in the wheel”, take bribes, put lay people on the “bread places” instead of the masters of their craft, steal money (almost openly), and still manage to seem “white and fluffy” in the declaration then what is it? The weakness of the President? Inability to lead him? Fearlessness of officials of all levels and faith in their infallibility and constancy? Rather, the last! The president is trying to do something, the investigating authorities almost every day catch embezzlers and bribe takers, laws are being adopted to tighten financial discipline and public procurement, but the class of officials is so strong that it is impossible to overcome it immediately and at once. It will take years. And for this, the President needs to step "through himself" and sacrifice his nominee publicly, hold a couple of trials of demonstration trials, and give terms up to a lifetime, so that others think: "And I can be next!", And started working honestly and for the good of Russia. This applies to officials, so to speak. The second is the new owners of enterprises that appeared after the voucher privatization. How many plants and factories they brought to bankruptcy, not knowing how to manage and not knowing production, just to grab money, and there "grass will not grow", at best we will demolish and build a shopping center, and we will cut the rent. An example of such thoughtless leadership is my factory. My factory was always led by people from the team who had gone through school from master to general director. The production is complex, it combines steel, metalworking, assembly production, high-tech products, working around the world, including the USA, Japan, Germany, and many other countries around the world. As a result of the actions of these "effective managers", 15 thousand remained from the plant with a staff of over 1,8 thousand. We can no longer produce some types of products, although before they arrived they were monopolists in certain types of heavy engineering. Like this . For one, one would also have to deal with such "effective managers" who ditch Russian engineering.
  2. Kolya
    Kolya April 14 2013 08: 52 New
    28
    Chubais’s visit is a bad omen. Usually ends with scrap metal.
    1. S_mirnov
      S_mirnov April 14 2013 10: 21 New
      12
      "Why doesn't Putin notice the villains?" - The raven will not peck out the crow's eye!
    2. Strezhevchanin
      Strezhevchanin April 14 2013 12: 31 New
      12
      Quote: Kohl
      Chubais’s visit is a bad omen. Usually ends with scrap metal.

      Why Kvachkov didn’t receive crying !!!
  3. S_mirnov
    S_mirnov April 14 2013 10: 25 New
    11
    "Excuse me, who did you mean? If - Putin, then I have no choice but to put an emoticon in your address in response to your" wise "conclusion - but in vain, if the GDP really controlled the country, then it’s time to put storks on the wing and he wouldn’t have TV shows every day! Governing the country is an enormous load, and daily pyaractions eat a lot of time.
    And it doesn’t matter what kind of leader he is. his goal is not to protect the interests of Russia (citizens of the Russian Federation).
    1. baltika-18
      baltika-18 April 14 2013 11: 15 New
      15
      Quote: S_mirnov
      GDP really controlled the country, then he wouldn’t have time to put storks on the wing and arrange TV shows every day!

      I agree with this. I watched here recently on TV about a meeting on the forest in Buryatia, how he dragged two businessmen there and connected them by telephone with Kiriyenko to solve some problems. They showed them on Channel 5. Seeing this, I have no respect left. I think that those who are engaged in the image of the president and conduct such television PR companies are very close-minded people.
      1. Shtyn dwarf
        Shtyn dwarf April 14 2013 14: 45 New
        0
        Are you an expert in this field? It seems to me that this PR company is hinting at the separation of the pro-American government and Putin, as the leader of the national liberation movement. In my opinion, everything is logical. Or do you consider a member of the Government of Lebanon and Putin like-minded?
        1. Karabin
          Karabin April 14 2013 19: 23 New
          +4
          Quote: Shtynsky Dwarf
          This PR company is an allusion to the separation of the pro-American government and Putin, as the leader of the national liberation movement. In my opinion, everything is logical.

          While Putin led the national liberation movement in the Kremlin’s catacombs, US President Obama submitted the candidacy of Prime Minister Medvedev to the Russian Duma for approval.
        2. yak69
          yak69 April 15 2013 01: 06 New
          0
          Quote: Shtynsky Dwarf
          Or do you consider a member of the Government of Lebanon and Putin like-minded?

          They are not only like-minded people, moreover, they are colleagues! And his direct proteges. Or do you think that the iPhone takes decisions on its own, without coordination with the PU ?!
          Lebanon, Fursenko, Zurabov, Mudko, hermit, Golikova, Taburetkin, Chubais, these are ALL ITS APPOINTERS! What further can we talk and argue ?!
  4. WS
    WS April 14 2013 12: 06 New
    +6
    I apologize, but didn’t Tupolev and Sukhoi "Butt"?
  5. slvevg
    slvevg April 14 2013 12: 56 New
    +5
    I recall the analogy with the butting of Sukhoi with Antonov when the USSR was. There the same thing - the legendary “weaving” of Sukhoi was stolen because of the banal nepotism of Antonov with the first persons of the state, and the “dry” was “dropped”, despite the mass of advanced technical solutions used in the “hundred”.
    As far as my memory serves, butts of Sukhoi and Tupolev were butt, it was Tupolev who had the Kremlin roof. request
  6. pechv
    pechv April 14 2013 13: 45 New
    -1
    I recall the analogy with the butting of Sukhoi with Antonov when the USSR was.

    If memory serves, Sukhoi butted on a hundred, not with Antonov, but with Tupolev. This is for clarification.

    And further down the text of the discussion, they were again to blame for everything ... Putin and Chubais. Anatoly Borisovich, in the light of recent events, is probably looking for a new industry for murder. Nothing personal just business. And GDP, perhaps, still does not suspect that it is again to blame.

    The team must fight for the real leader. If they cannot defend what is needed, then this is the leader whom they deserve. Intrigues have always existed, time now in this sense is not original. And the fight against the objectionable is also the same. We are offered to judge the situation by only one article, without getting to know a different point of view.
  7. varov14
    varov14 April 14 2013 14: 47 New
    +1
    Until it reaches the First Person, there will be nothing to collect, the Russian Post works too poorly.
  8. Rus2012
    Rus2012 April 14 2013 19: 08 New
    +3
    Quote: esaul
    And yet ... It is difficult for us (many here - on the site) to judge everything that happens at the described enterprise, what subtle combinations are played there. But, nevertheless, I believe that we should collectively support the call of the Aviadvigatel collective and ask the Administration on our "behalf" to send the appropriate letters (call it what you like), both to the collective and to those structures on which fate depends and successful activity vital for the country enterprise. Good morning everyone!

    ... support 100% !!!
    I have been following the fate of NK for a long time. I declare that NK will not - on long-range and strategic aviation in Russia it will be possible to put a bold cross forever!
    Therefore, it is time for "effective young reformers" to be sent to a decent crap. Competent specialists, including Y. Eliseev, are in key posts!
    It's time, time is running out!
  9. NOBODY EXCEPT US
    NOBODY EXCEPT US April 14 2013 23: 41 New
    -1
    Yes, he is a very weak and vengeful dwarf ..... with complexes of Napoleon ...
  • olegff68
    olegff68 April 14 2013 12: 47 New
    0
    Quote: My address
    He is weak head.

    He is the most powerful leader, but do not think that he holds all the power in his hands! There are Chubais, Abramovich, dozens of others like them and those who stand behind them, doing real politics and "business" in this country! The GDP is forced with some of them to temporarily maintain "neutrality" while avoiding new "swamp" confrontations that are not needed by the country and people.
  • audentes
    audentes April 14 2013 14: 19 New
    +4
    Now they’re putting them all over, the main thing is that the leader should be helpful, fulfill the plan,
  • Yoshkin Kot
    Yoshkin Kot April 14 2013 19: 01 New
    +1
    politics art possible, IVS spent 15 years
  • d.gksueyjd
    d.gksueyjd April 14 2013 22: 13 New
    +1
    Of course, Medvedev is a weak leader, you have correctly noticed this.
    Quote: My address
    Weak leader
  • vlad.1924
    vlad.1924 April 15 2013 02: 46 New
    +1
    Maybe I personally do not know him, but maybe a good specialist, and if the whole plant team is worth something for him?
  • bereg
    bereg April 15 2013 03: 24 New
    0
    the author, where do you know which grannies they don’t know that the forelock came from, changed the leadership and all the tragedy should be fired for everyone in Samara, what to say the main treasurer is the thief the whole government is in the thieves, diduli sit in armchairs and they don’t let young people teach. I hope something will move with the new governor but not a fact, the mayor of Samara was quickly besieged now even in the city does not appear and yes the roads we have are the worst
  • tronin.maxim
    tronin.maxim April 14 2013 07: 52 New
    12
    If Chubais came, then that's it ..... request
    1. Tersky
      Tersky April 14 2013 08: 46 New
      +8
      Quote: tronin.maxim
      If Chubais came then that's it ..

      And he draws on the words from the famous song of A. Makarevich "Do you remember how it all began ..?"
      MOSCOW, April 12 - RIA News. The Moscow Exchange Market for Innovations and Investments (RII) sector has proved its worth over several years of operation, one of the evidence of this was the start of trading on the Rusnano OJSC bonds RII site, said Anatoly Chubais, chairman of the board of the nanotechnology company.
      In the RII sector on Friday, trading opened with all currently issued bonds of RUSNANO series 01-05 with a total nominal value of 53 billion rubles.
      “In this sense, there is a heartbreaking conflict inside me - on the one hand, I am the chairman of the (coordinating) council (RII), and on the other hand, the issuer. That is why we were ready to move here with our bonds only if we were convinced that this platform already serious, "Chubais told reporters.


      RIA Novosti http://ria.ru/nano_news/20130412/932381948.html#13659147971643&message=resize&re
      lto = register & action = addClass & value = registration # ixzz2QPTj2j5F
      1. Bronis
        Bronis April 14 2013 11: 04 New
        19
        Mr. Chubais is a very interesting person. Moreover, in fact, the only one remaining in the executive branch since the beginning of the 90's. And he is more an official than a politician (unlike the late Gaidar and the still not quite deceased Nemtsov, they were carried away by the pursuit of political power and lost).
        And the conclusion here is one - Chubais always coped with the tasks assigned to him. With privatization there were tasks to build assets for nothing - he managed. Yes, and became extreme at the psychological level. Who is guilty? - Chubais is already at the level of reflexes. The same thing with RAO UES. It was necessary to steal the company slowly - it was delivered. Everything has been done ... dragged into dozens of LLC, CJSC and OJSC. And they say, well, why are you surprised - Chubais is the same ... Something similar happens under the screen of nanotechnology. Companies of interest are changing the owner and management in someone's interests. Moreover, the term "nanotechnology" is rubber. No one will say for sure what it is, because a very broad concept. And this gives tremendous opportunities for manipulation ...
        So Chubais is the first "effective manager." An ideal (for such realities) performer, deprived of conscience and dignity, thinking only from the point of view of the balance of the task and his own survival in the system. That's the key to his "longevity". Loyalty and unscrupulousness.
        1. vadson
          vadson April 14 2013 12: 30 New
          +9
          yeah, and he also has a solid tire in the west, it’s not for nothing that in the Bilderberg Club he draws his face, fulfills orders from there.
          Putin doesn’t eliminate him for the same reason, hell knows, maybe he wants to go there but don’t take it, not redhead :-)
          but seriously, the pension fund is empty, the stabilization fund abroad is prohibited by law, more than 95% of large businesses are offshore and do not pay taxes, of course there are no food stamps in the early 90s, but now we don’t have agriculture as such.
          when will all this mess end?
          1. Bronis
            Bronis April 14 2013 18: 45 New
            +3
            This mess can end in collapse ...
  • Fox
    Fox April 14 2013 07: 56 New
    24
    Yes. Samara region was gouged especially hard when the governor was artyakov. still that bastard .VAZ milked, “having earned” 1,3 billion rubles for the year, and everything that was in the region was carefully and consistently destroyed by means of “fictitious managers” from Moscow. The charter went “to work”. .
    1. Thunderbolt
      Thunderbolt April 14 2013 13: 23 New
      11
      They correctly remembered Artyakov! He’s now working in Russian Technologies. The initiator of the resignation of Yuri Eliseev was the Russian Technologies State Corporation. So Samara does not forget this vile mug with greasy eyes. I could tell a lot about this gentleman, but the format of the forum does not allow, but you can’t do without a mat repeatAnd the opinion of the factory workers, I think, was simply “wiped out”.
  • taseka
    taseka April 14 2013 08: 00 New
    19
    "And what Moscow scoundrels need such a truth-teller?" - it is increasingly noticed that as soon as the Muscovites “capture” or buy the plant, then there is an amba with bankruptcy! They grabbed the capital and disappeared leaving the ruins !!! Rot flows into the clean, morally and morally, rivers of the provinces of Russia!
    1. Tersky
      Tersky April 14 2013 08: 41 New
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      Quote: taseka
      Rot flows into the pure, morally and morally, rivers of the provinces of Russia!

      Well, here is the answer to the question Why Putin does not notice the villains?, but what GDP sees:
      1. mr.Net
        mr.Net April 14 2013 09: 18 New
        +4
        half a country is looking for a brightness knob ... wassat
      2. Curculum
        Curculum April 14 2013 10: 03 New
        +6
        Quote: Tersky
        but what GDP sees:

        So that's what Malevich wrote ... laughing
        1. Thunderbolt
          Thunderbolt April 14 2013 13: 25 New
          +2
          Quote: Kurkul
          So that's what Malevich wrote ...
          And Makarevich laughing
    2. Kyrgyz
      Kyrgyz April 14 2013 08: 57 New
      +4
      Quote: taseka
      it is increasingly noticed that as soon as the Muscovites “capture” or buy the plant, then there is an amba with bankruptcy!

      This is logical, bankruptcy allows you to forgive everyone the debts accumulated by previous owners, and to kick out your own leadership with minimal costs. you will not pay other people's debts and endure a manager whom you do not trust on your money
    3. Captain Vrungel
      Captain Vrungel April 14 2013 10: 12 New
      13
      Who Putin is and his actions, goals, environment and politics without a screen are clearly visible on Yanukovych copying him. If the first is smart, cunning and treacherous, then the second is stupid, a fool and a scoundrel, and all his actions and politics are out. And so one to one. Culturally and legally, S.Peterburgskaya is seizing Moscow. Our Donetsk brazenly rushing to Kiev and stupidly copies. You have cultured, educated followers of a cloak and dagger. We have lessons from the Zekov academies, fans of the knife and ax. But your goals. And ours are the same. Rightful domination. Your empire means emperor. Our state means hetman. Lukashenko has already built and started a socialist kingdom with all his might against corruption, trying to get into his inner circle. For you and for us, this issue has been greatly neglected and practically out of control of the guarantors. And the rest is one to one. The opposition, a former coalition, but pushed away from the trough and in the eternal struggle for a place. The people of you and of us have long since left and do not pay attention to the floundering in the bank of rival individuals and are busy with their eternal problem of how to survive in these richest states, where millionaires become billionaires faster than mushrooms grow.
      1. rolik
        rolik April 14 2013 17: 37 New
        0
        Quote: Captain Vrungel
        And so one to one

        Of course, I apologize, but we don’t have the same ass as you. We had such an ass in the 90s.
    4. opkozak
      opkozak April 14 2013 10: 13 New
      +2
      Though a “Varangian”, it’s very effective.


      More to such "Varangians." Maybe they would help.
  • Murat 09
    Murat 09 April 14 2013 08: 10 New
    12
    The article is a plus, and the people are rotten now, they rallied and dispersed, but under Stalin he was still a people, like a chairman in a film. Sadly this is (((. I respect Eliseev, like other production workers, but alas, there are few of them. Himself I would like to work at the factory, but we don’t have them (((.
    1. opkozak
      opkozak April 14 2013 10: 16 New
      26
      The people are asking for a miracle. Well, like that, (to raise the mood of Sunday) bully
      1. Tersky
        Tersky April 14 2013 11: 37 New
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        Quote: opkozak
        The people are asking for a miracle.

        The people of order are asking .... that thieves in jail, murderers in a noose, not to him a miracle ..
        1. opkozak
          opkozak April 14 2013 12: 10 New
          +5
          Quote: Tersky
          The people of order asks .... that would be thieves in prison

          With your lips and honey to drink.
          Indeed my dream is such.
        2. Normal
          Normal April 14 2013 12: 34 New
          +8
          Quote: opkozak
          The people are asking for a miracle.

          Quote: Tersky
          The people of order are asking.

          So, if thieves (under the Vorva authorities) are in prison, then this is a MIRACLE!
          1. opkozak
            opkozak April 14 2013 19: 16 New
            +9

            Start simple - stop throwing trash under your feet.
            1. opkozak
              opkozak April 14 2013 22: 35 New
              +4
              I understand that if they are being minus, they are so willing to spit in the elevator, entrance and on the street, to spoil nature, swear at people and throw garbage out of the window.
              It is not without reason that the money spent on topvar. Someone was hooked and his angel wrote a note in his book. All is not lost guys, we will live! And everyone in heaven will have a chance.
        3. stroporez
          stroporez April 18 2013 17: 12 New
          -2
          fairy tales have read))))))))))))
  • pinecone
    pinecone April 14 2013 08: 15 New
    +9
    "And we were in trouble
    Whether it will still be "/ From a song by A. Pugacheva /

    Well, it doesn’t work out for them. To not take it, everything is as always. However, when money comes first, there can be no other way.
  • alexdol
    alexdol April 14 2013 08: 20 New
    14
    Well, what can I say - there are simply no words, alone .... However, this is nothing new for me personally. Again sounded "Medvedev ...", and all that is connected with it - is a betrayal! Again it remains to repeat the question - how much longer this ... will do its dirty deed? Just recently there was a message that the director of the museum was arrested, but what about "Serdyukov and K"? Silence ... Again, I’ll repeat someone’s saying: I would have trusted Putin more if he had planted a Chubais, .... Serdyukov, “I would add here, I would finally figure out the ENEMY of the country“ Medvedev ”and his gang, and also stopped prosecuting the heroes of RUSSIA Kvachkova, Khabarov and others!
  • Ivan Tarasov
    Ivan Tarasov April 14 2013 08: 22 New
    -7
    In 2008, they thwarted the flight tests of the innovative (!) NK-93 aircraft engine. Scored billions of rubles of debt. In an unknown direction, the aircraft engines taken from the military for repair and modernization disappeared.
    It’s clear what they were doing there ...
    Instead of creating new engines, they continued to procrastinate the theme of the 80s, and to "master" the money.
    They drove them out - and they did it right!
    1. Murat 09
      Murat 09 April 14 2013 08: 26 New
      14
      Although you should read the article carefully, it was not Eliseev who disrupted the tests, but Nikitin, the "effective maneuver," and Eliseev was appointed in November 2011.
      1. Ivan Tarasov
        Ivan Tarasov April 14 2013 08: 43 New
        -10
        They kicked me out, so I did not do the job.
        Weak leader.
        The article itself looks like a provocation.
        1. Murat 09
          Murat 09 April 14 2013 08: 53 New
          13
          The trouble is that on the contrary, successful leaders are expelled from us, and Muscovites put loot in their place, and those who are unsuccessful do not drown like shit in an ice hole — an example of Chubais.
        2. ATATA
          ATATA April 14 2013 09: 28 New
          -1
          Quote: Ivan Tarasov
          The article itself looks like a provocation.

          No, you didn’t exactly put it. Not to provocation, but to order.
          They kicked out a white and fluffy, put an evil troll from Moscow.
          1. Ivan Tarasov
            Ivan Tarasov April 14 2013 13: 07 New
            -4
            Ordering clean water.
            From over the hill 1 billion dollars was allocated for anti-state activities in the Russian Federation, the money was naturally stolen, and such opuses would post something to report on the "work done".
            They abundantly fertilize with the comments of trolls, and please, the work has been done, the people are led.
            1. baltika-18
              baltika-18 April 14 2013 14: 03 New
              +4
              Quote: Ivan Tarasov
              Ordering clean water.

              If so approach this, then any publication can be called an order.
              Skrynnik, Serdyukov, Vasilyeva, Smetanova, Fursenko, Levanov, Golikova, Nabiulin-all publications that mention these individuals from the negative side of the order of the State Department, this is obtained if you follow your point of view. hi
              1. Ivan Tarasov
                Ivan Tarasov April 14 2013 16: 47 New
                +1
                Constructive criticism and indiscriminate groaning with the substitution of concepts are two different things.
              2. ATATA
                ATATA April 15 2013 13: 31 New
                0
                Quote: baltika-18
                If so approach this, then any publication can be called an order.

                There are no facts in the article, only the subjective opinion of the journalist and rumors that the plant’s staff supports the dismissed director.
                Why can I believe her?
  • mark1
    mark1 April 14 2013 08: 24 New
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    Why does Putin not notice the villains? this can be answered with an excerpt from the sermon of priest Sivoldai -
    "... - People! There is a lot of the unknown. There is such that it is known only to me, you are unknown. There is such that it is known only to you, it is unknown to me.
    - There is a taco that neither you nor I know! ... "
    1. esaul
      esaul April 14 2013 08: 55 New
      +1
      mark1
      Greetings, colleague. hi Good answer! Plus big.
    2. Kyrgyz
      Kyrgyz April 14 2013 12: 49 New
      +3
      Quote: mark1
      Why does Putin not notice the villains? this can be answered with an excerpt from the sermon of priest Sivoldai - "... - People! There is a lot of the unknown. There is something that is known only to me, you are unknown. There is such that it is known only to you, it is unknown to me. - There is such, that neither you nor I know! ... "

      In other words, HZ - laughing
  • Vitali-46
    Vitali-46 April 14 2013 08: 25 New
    -2
    Peace be to all of you !! It’s really all sad! And where is the FSB looking? Are there really no decent, honest, people among the officials?! PATRIOTS OF YOUR HOMELAND ??? And really, really Vladimir Vladimirovich, doesn’t notice anything ?! it doesn’t seem to work in a very serious office.
    1. Heccrbq
      Heccrbq April 14 2013 12: 34 New
      +5
      Vitaly Feysy is sitting in Sam oblast, without exception, on a pipe (we have an oil pipeline passing through the region, well, gas and diesel fuel), whoever is lucky, the rest are covering the business, I don’t know about the direct duties, but there are bearded faces with a round headdress on the head of various ages appeared on the street, an incredible amount in general institutions, my Syzran turns into a village.
    2. vadson
      vadson April 14 2013 12: 37 New
      +3
      thanks neighing
  • andrei332809
    andrei332809 April 14 2013 08: 25 New
    +6
    "yes, he is a bastard and nowhere. but this is MY bastard and nowhere." how under Stalin did pests?
    Ah, men. today is air defense day. happy holiday!
    1. SASCHAmIXEEW
      SASCHAmIXEEW April 14 2013 10: 22 New
      +8
      And you have a holiday! The article is correct +. But why do we always forget the Russian proverb: “Fish rots from the head!” Why does a BOR walk for a billion on a subscription, but they stole thousands who stole it !? If the authorities don’t understand the good, then need for the bad! But how, one must think!
  • optimist
    optimist April 14 2013 08: 30 New
    11
    The answer is elementary, he DOESN’T !!! The chairman of a gay club will never choose a normal guy. And the vast majority of our population is so stupid that for more than 1000 years they have not been able to understand this elementary truth ...
    1. SASCHAmIXEEW
      SASCHAmIXEEW April 14 2013 10: 31 New
      +8
      Our people are not stupid, just very patient and gullible, but it seems like the bowl will soon overflow! But Putin has something with his head, he really doesn’t understand that he needs to live well in his own country, and not somewhere! But you won’t be able to hide, EVIL will be punished, ice axes are already cooked
    2. Normal
      Normal April 14 2013 10: 33 New
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      Quote: optimist
      . And the vast majority of our population is so stupid that for more than 1000 years they have not been able to understand this elementary truth ...

      I welcome, Alex.
      I would not blame “the majority of our population” for stupidity.
      A significant portion of Putin’s supporters sincerely believe that they are in share.
      They began to pay salaries - cheers to Putin! As if paying a salary for this achievement or feat.
      Credit cars became available - thank Putin! This is how we live richly!
      They ceased to look into the mouth of Western politicians - long live the greatest, no alternative - irreplaceable !!! But this is natural and goes without saying that one must be guided by one’s own interests.
      Most supporters of Putin just want to have a satisfying and calm life. And of course, show off in the West is more expensive than money. They don’t care that the country continues to be plundered, only now not under the slogans of reforms and entry into European civilization, but under the slogans of a single, powerful state and Eurasianism. They do not care what the ruin of education, health and manufacturing; the main thing is that they are now personally paid a salary and "grub in the store like dirt" They are on the drum that the authorities are guarding the interests of big olgar-thieves' capital, because they have become "better dressed" They think that they have enough oil for their age, gas, sausages, credit wheelbarrows, cut paper and ponte.
      Alas. There was no generation in our country whose share had enough calm, stable times. And now it’s not enough. They just understand this (they want to understand it) by no means all.
      1. optimist
        optimist April 14 2013 11: 04 New
        13
        I completely agree with you, dear. I will say more: I, too, now live much better (financially) than under the USSR. But it seems to me that even the most complete idiot will sooner or later have a question, like a famous presage from a famous film: "At whose expense is this banquet?" Over the past 25 years, we have “safely” gone about..the future of the country for many generations to come. Everything turns out, as in the famous saying: "We lived happily, but not for long." Looking at what is happening around you begin to strongly doubt the “God's chosenness and majesty” of the Russian people, which now resembles pigs in a pen: if only the “master” poured more and more slop into the trough on time, and ... the rest ...
      2. Heccrbq
        Heccrbq April 14 2013 12: 38 New
        +3
        Fasting to the point, huge plus!
        1. djon3volta
          djon3volta April 14 2013 13: 34 New
          -5
          when Putin will destroy Russia and the Russians? you know, I'm glad that Putin destroys me with genocide, and I'm glad that he is ruining the country in the form in which it happens. I can’t wait for the collapse of the country from Putin’s policy. Listen, it's so boring to live like we live, in stability. can we arrange a life for ourselves according to the Syrian scenario? this is where stability is already, 2 years of stability, factories have been working, people are happy, houses and roads are being built, the army is idle .. but let's go to storm the Kremlin and take Putin off! life was under Tolley under Yeltsin, but right now it’s not interesting.
          1. optimist
            optimist April 14 2013 13: 57 New
            +9
            Hello, naive ... If you think that kissing at ..ope gdp, we will avoid the "Syrian" and other scenarios, you are deeply mistaken. For 25 years of a mess and the ravaging of the country, someone has to pay. The fact of the matter is that you have to choose between "very bad" and "just p ... ts ..." Do you think that under the guidance of the VVP-shy we will manage to get out of the water? I’m sure that in a couple of years you’ll be the loudest to yell: "Runway, count !!!". So let's wait ... (However, nothing else remains for us)
            1. djon3volta
              djon3volta April 14 2013 14: 18 New
              -5
              Quote: optimist
              I am sure that in a couple of years you will be the loudest to yell: "Runway, count!"

              are you Nastradamus or something?
              if you believe that I kiss the GDP in .pu, then the same thing can be said about you - you kiss those who are against Putin. who are Putin's ardent opponents, do you kiss .. logically? in my opinion, yes.
              do you hope that Putin will be thrown off and you will receive compensation for posts and comments against Putin? Do you think this will be taken into account in the future? You are also naive if you think so.
          2. Normal
            Normal April 14 2013 16: 36 New
            +6
            Quote: djon3volta
            I am glad that Putin destroys me with genocide, and I am glad that he is ruining the country in the form in which this is happening. I am waiting for the collapse of the country from Putin’s policy.



            Dear John, I read your posts only because no one else can find such a natural, pure and bright idiocy in them. I beg you, do not leave us without your creativity. You are a unique instance that managed to preserve in itself childish naivety, stupidity and spontaneity and was not embarrassed to use them publicly. Take care of yourself, without you, the discussion will become banal and boring for adults.
            B. "Normal"
  • fenix57
    fenix57 April 14 2013 08: 37 New
    0
    Hello to all of you. What is it, the division of state property of Russia has begun, or has only just appeared. After all, persistent rumors are circulating about the imminent resignation of the government and, accordingly, the Chairman of the Council of Ministers (let this weakness be called in our opinion). While there is the possibility of "their" put, that would finish off and leave nothing for Russia. This corresponds to a certain plan called the Harvard Project, which includes three stages: "restructuring", "reform", "
  • mogus
    mogus April 14 2013 08: 46 New
    11
    in my hometown there was a factory for the production of woodworking machines. There were only three of these in the UNION ... The administration from Moscow was introduced into perestroika ... some walls and a night club are now there.
    1. Murat 09
      Murat 09 April 14 2013 08: 56 New
      10
      correctly noticed, where Muscovites rule, some walls and brothels instead of factories !!!
      1. Normal
        Normal April 14 2013 10: 40 New
        +5
        Quote: mogus
        Perestroika introduced management from Moscow

        Quote: Murat 09
        where Muscovites rule

        In the suburbs came Petersburg Putin's appointees-no more that suburbs.
        When you want (well, really want) to kick Moscow, take an interest where are you from your new appointee. You may not be pleasantly surprised ....
        1. mogus
          mogus April 14 2013 12: 01 New
          +3
          no offense. Then I advise people to explain the difference between St. Petersburg and Moscow. It’s far from here and everything merges into one, it makes no difference to us who bankrupt and closed:
          Steel mill (city, district center)
          Mine (a couple of years already working, but far from the same scale)
          And already voiced machine factory.
          Households smaller, better not say anything ...
          From the European part of the country crushed competitors here.
          1. Normal
            Normal April 14 2013 13: 50 New
            +3
            Quote: mogus
            Then I advise people to explain the difference between St. Petersburg and Moscow

            I’ll try, of course, very simplistically and from my bell tower.

            Moscow.
            Big village. In the center of the European and historical part of Russia. Gatherer of the lands. The city is old, more than once burning and rising from the ashes. More than once captured by the enemy and freed by the forces of all of Russia. Populated by people from all over Russia but mainly from the surrounding areas. The royal city, which absorbed the Horde system of power and, in accordance with it, always sought, and found allies and associates.
            A Muscovite always (or almost always) tries to take into account the interests and needs of the population of those places where he has to lead. Since he himself, as a rule, is historically not from Moscow, but from the province and is only in the service of the Moscow sovereign.

            St. Petersburg.
            Not a village, but the Capital of the Empire. Built on a bare spot with a disgusting climate. The city was originally opposed to the rest of Russia. Rejected everything Russian and striving for everything Western. Window to Europe. City of officials, imperial service, arrogance and arrogance.
            St. Petersburg does not tolerate objections and always considers himself right. For Peter, all who do not creep under him are enemies. St. Petersburg - the type closest to the Englishman; also the desire to teach everyone how to live, to impose on everyone their way of life, their tastes and orders.

            Quote: mogus
            It’s far from here and everything merges into one, it makes no difference to us who went bankrupt and closed:


            And I’m close to the authorities (I live not far away) And around me everything was bankrupt and it was Petersburg that closed it. I wrote about this more than once.
            I do not feel any illusions about the current rulers since they began to bankrupt and close with my farm right after the appointment of GDP as the receiver. What later began to happen throughout Russia was worked out and tested by Petersburgers in the Moscow region at the beginning of the century.
            1. mogus
              mogus April 14 2013 15: 06 New
              +2
              we have slightly different concepts of "Muscovite". You are a resident of the capital, we call a person "Muscovite", which means (meaning is attached) unfriendly, arrogant, selfish. And somehow it’s all the same until the designation of the person at the place of residence. If you have closed one enterprise, then it is replaced by another, well, or you can find yourself in another area.
              I’ll try to explain the situation as it is: have you heard about the “black list” / “take on record” / - in short, in debt? I have my own store, there are people who used to take care of the forest (stole), after "tightening the screws" with the forest (heavy fines, real terms), most sat down. Some debts have not been returned to me (more than a year already), they simply cannot, it is impossible to steal a forest, there is no other job.
              I regularly communicate with wholesalers who travel around the area, so in my village even less compared to Bada (Putin was there on April 11), in Bad, according to wholesalers, sales fell three times ... but the people didn’t . There is an Orimi Wood department from St. Petersburg, but these are “cat tears” (you won’t believe me, but the department director also borrowed from me last year). Try to explain the difference Muscovite / St. Petersburg here, on the spot? This is a reality that will never be shown on TV ...
        2. Murat 09
          Murat 09 April 14 2013 13: 25 New
          +1
          Well, how do I know who, what, and whose in Moscow, and against Muscovites as residents of the city, I have nothing against, by the way, my relatives live there, I’m talking about how a person organizes a business in our province, develops it, something produces here, and not in China, and then people come from Moscow and take away his business, suck out all the financial juices, ruin them and leave. And who are they, St. Petersburg, Donetsk, etc. we are not interested. Since the inhabitants of Moscow are offended by our words, let us call them “Maskvichs”.
          1. Normal
            Normal April 14 2013 17: 01 New
            +4
            Quote: mogus
            we have slightly different concepts of "Muscovite". You are a resident of the capital, we call a person "Muscovite", which means (meaning is attached) unfriendly, arrogant, selfish

            Quote: Murat 09
            Well, how do I know who, what and whose in Moscow

            Here! No one cares where the bastard is from, but to ascribe a bastard to Moscow is always welcome! And why then not ascribe everyone with whom we are not happy, everyone who prevents us from living with Peter, Rostov, or for example Magadan? I dont want? It is so nice to be better aware than Muscovites. it is from Moscow all the filth in Russia. And every day I see on the streets of Moscow how drivers with nonresident license plates squint. How Caucasians are impudent, how real boys from Rostov are squirming, how they spit on those around St. Petersburg.
            But where and when did you somewhere see the accusations against non-Muscovites?

            Quote: mogus
            If you have closed one enterprise, then it is replaced by another, well, or you can find yourself in another area.

            You are mistaken. Everything is much tougher with us. Competition is higher, relationships are worse, the rhythm of life is faster. Therefore, a Muscovite is less sentimental than a resident of the province. Even if he was born and raised in this province, but has been living in Moscow lately.

            Quote: Murat 09
            And who are they, St. Petersburg, Donetsk, etc. we are not interested. Since the inhabitants of Moscow are offended by our words, let us call these “Maskvichs”.

            Let’s once again Gorbachev from the Kuban, and EBN from Sverdlovsk, blame what they did to the country of the inhabitants of these glorious regions. Just so that they are not offended, we will change the name of the cities one letter at a time.
            1. Garrin
              Garrin April 14 2013 17: 23 New
              +2
              Normal
              Everything is correct. I will subscribe to each of your words. For this metropolitan tinsel, it is not known to people that most Muscovites work in factories, in hospitals and clinics, in construction sites and thermal power plants. And for the same money as throughout the country, and not at all by bankers, managers and commerce, although there is a lot of this shit here.
            2. mogus
              mogus April 14 2013 18: 12 New
              +3
              your truth. The country is determined by people. My fellow countrymen had a hand in the Buran when he landed in automatic mode. It's good. But for some reason, all the troubles with the address: Moscow ...
          2. Ascetic
            Ascetic April 14 2013 19: 00 New
            +5
            Quote: Murat 09
            I’m talking about how a person organizes a business in our province, develops it, produces something here, not in China, and then people come from Moscow and take his business, suck out all the financial juices, ruin and leave.


            Mrskvichi is the head of the local administration. the chief of the Internal Affairs Directorate and the prosecutor. Eyes develop under your nose ... One such mayor all cried the province is dying. Moscow strangles, does not give money, etc. Well, the guys didn’t just come and ask him a couple of questions to a poor one, for example, where did his brother-disabled child get a luxurious apartment in the glorious city of Odintsovo (where a square meter of housing is more expensive than in Moscow) that this brother does not even suspect about, well and in such a spirit ... I immediately gave permission to build an agricultural farm without any kickbacks or delays ... that’s how Muscovites bought up local business in the bud.
      2. SASCHAmIXEEW
        SASCHAmIXEEW April 14 2013 10: 42 New
        13
        So Muscovites are no longer left! Moscow is like a sponge, it has collected the liquidationist trash and from there rules the country! Get up the country to a mortal battle ...... with the liquidationist horde!
  • fenix57
    fenix57 April 14 2013 08: 48 New
    +8
    , "Why Putin does not notice the villains?" - and the question arises, WHY THE BADDERS DO NOT NOTICE Mr. BABICH M., - Plenipotentiary Representative of the President on the Volga Federal District. I did not hear about the problem or sold out to the red-haired von-baron. Why the heck (Babich appointed to the post). hi
    1. esaul
      esaul April 14 2013 09: 19 New
      +1
      Quote: fenix57
      AND WHY THE BADDERS ARE NOT MISSED by Mr BABICH M., - Plenipotentiary Representative of the President on the Volga Federal District

      Greetings, namesake! hi I think that unsightly things in the PrFD will not be ignored. There is such a pattern - until these things exceed a certain critical mass, these figures enjoy life without suspecting that - everything is being recorded wink in "BUK"
      1. Normal
        Normal April 14 2013 10: 50 New
        10
        Quote: esaul
        until these things exceed a certain critical mass,

        It is known what happens when a "critical mass" is reached. But let me remind you; a chain reaction occurs with the release of colossal, as a rule, uncontrolled energy.
        By asserting that everything has its time, that everything goes on, that “everything is recorded”, you only mask the accumulation of that very critical mass, the explosion of which will bury both the state and supporters of the government and, unfortunately, everyone else.
  • fenix57
    fenix57 April 14 2013 09: 20 New
    +5
    Quote: taseka
    - it is increasingly noticed that as soon as the Muscovites “capture” or buy the plant, then there is an amba with bankruptcy! They grabbed the capital and disappeared leaving the ruins !!! Rot flows into the clean, morally and morally, rivers of the provinces of Russia!

    About this part of the article: In the early 1980s, Soviet intelligence obtained materials from the so-called “Harvard Project,” which included three main stages, outlined in three books - “Perestroika,” “Reform,” and “Completion.” The program was initiated by US intelligence agencies and is designed for three five-year periods:
    -reconstruction;
    -reform.
    - completion:
    -liquidation of the army;
    -the elimination of Russian statehood;
    -the elimination of the attributes of socialism - free training, free medicine;
    - introduction of the attributes of the principle of capitalism - "everyone pays for everything";
    -the elimination of well-fed and peaceful life, first in the province, and then in the capitals (Moscow and Leningrad);
    - the widespread elimination of public and state property and its complete replacement with private;
    - gradual seizure of Russian territory by the Anglo-Saxon population (earlier than the races of the East). see Military Materials - Harvard Project. hi
    1. SASCHAmIXEEW
      SASCHAmIXEEW April 14 2013 10: 45 New
      +9
      Do you think Putin doesn’t know about the project? HE is his performer !!!
  • Svyatoslav72
    Svyatoslav72 April 14 2013 09: 24 New
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    Citizens and Comrades! Putin may have started with the KGB, but was noted in Leningrad not in the best of affairs. According to the logic of things, after EBN they could put only the “necessary granddaughter”, of which he is. You don’t have to be especially gifted to see how things are done and how they are controlled, these are sober-mindedness and priorities that were not with “Gorbi” and EBN with PutoMedy. If someone likes Putin so much, then this is his personal misconceptions, I like his propaganda department, which promotes him well (but sometimes makes incorrect statements in unnecessary places, bad students were not creators but slurred / imitators). What is the difference between EBN and GDP? EBN in a "royal" disgraced and GDP on a star-promoted PR. The real Leader and Leader, immediately noticeable, but he is not in the Power, Power went to the Jesters and Hucksters as always.
    1. Romch
      Romch April 14 2013 10: 14 New
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      Putin himself is a scoundrel, so thieves are not being planted in our country, and corruption is flourishing, the Kremlin does not need patriots, and all the more competent. Why praise Putin, for such an enormous term of government and with such huge sales of raw materials, the country is in the ass, all industries are located in the West, and their cherimas are made like this, billionaires are added, and the other half are slipping into poverty, education is buried, housing and communal services are more expensive already than in Europe, expensive fuel, but everywhere you don’t throw it, everywhere a wedge.
  • AleksUkr
    AleksUkr April 14 2013 09: 41 New
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    CORRUPTION IN RUSSIA! Who is the main thief?

    V. Matvienko, Chairman of the Federation Council: "HAVE DOWNLOADED TO KLA (United Aircraft Corporation) HUGE STATE INVESTMENTS ... WHERE IS AIRCRAFT? AND WHERE MONEY?

    There is only one answer - they DEFEATED! .. Something has already reached the third person in the country. Can it reach the second and first?

    While successful managers such as Khristenko, Manturov, Pogosyan, Serdyukov, Golikova, Skrynnik and others like them will lead the country, under the guidance and patronage of our LEADER and FATHER OF THE NATION - GOOD DO NOT WAIT.

    The legendary astronaut Alexei LEONOV said in an interview with Arguments and Facts: "Our ancestors left us such a huge country, with the riches that we are now eating, plundering." WHAT'S NEXT? DO NOT RENT YOURSELF! ....
    1. Orik
      Orik April 14 2013 11: 31 New
      +5
      Matryoshka is the same, it didn’t come, but it’s called a clan fight. In the KLA, the wrong clan stole. wink
      In general, I was glad in the morning, there are so many adequate people in the morning on the site, or have the supporters after Putinka not yet overslept ?!
  • gorkoxnumx
    gorkoxnumx April 14 2013 09: 44 New
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    Either he is a bad leader, or he himself is in this system, although I would have already shot him for Kadyrov who killed in the 90s Russians, for which I was awarded with Ichkeria awards, and I don’t say anything about dad in Russia, and you remember Luzhkov and his little wife who and still live, and the heart who worked God knows what? How many are stolen from the reforms !!! Oh yes, and why do all government purchases turn into a robbery for which no one is responsible ?! Why, if Putin wants to defeat corruption, doesn’t do trivial things? I think that the President who wants to defeat the evil “corruption”, the first thing he should do is to increase the term of imprisonment up to life for crimes against the treasury, and Putin seems to be happy with everything and I'm sure that nothing will change in this area. As one president said, it’s not our 37th year.
    1. esaul
      esaul April 14 2013 10: 05 New
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      As one president said, this is not the 37 year.
      Why so embarrassing, colleague? Or forgot who said? And what is 37 today? Damn, I thought 2013!
      Quote: gorko83
      I think that the President who wants to defeat the evil “corruption” is the first thing he has to do is increase the sentence to life for crimes against the treasury

      Bravo! The only correct and comprehensive offer! Only here is bad luck, as it turned out, even the death penalty is not a panacea in the treatment of such an ailment as greed. And this greed (and its inalienable friends - arrogance, cowardice, meanness ...) existed in the most repressive (and even - military!) Times. And there were corrupt officials under Stalin. Only there was no such “beautiful” word - “corruption”, but there were comrades who “forgot and corrected the morality of the Soviet man”, and “various sorts of renegades of the Soviet society and robbers of socialist property ...”. This is from the official rhetoric of the Soviet era, so streamlined and sonorous calling corruption. To the objection that under Stalin there was no corruption, then - where did all these sonorous formulations come from?
      Well, what do you mention Serdyukov, what - for the truth suffers? Or is it his George W. Bush blamed under investigation?
      But in general, should I convince you? You are from the breed for which everything is bad and no improvement is expected. Suffer further.
      1. djon3volta
        djon3volta April 14 2013 13: 46 New
        -5
        it’s useless to argue that the article is not the same today. In the article “The Germans comment on the article about Putin’s interview with ARD Broadcasting Company”, completely different comments, even the Germans see Putin as a worthy person, because they are more visible from the side.

        "today is a holiday for hamsters, this will be dancing")))
  • Belogor
    Belogor April 14 2013 09: 48 New
    +4
    Quote: Svyatoslav72
    If someone likes Putin so much, then these are his personal misconceptions,

    If someone does not like Putin, then this is his own business. In the kitchens we are all presidents and experts in everything.
    1. Svyatoslav72
      Svyatoslav72 April 14 2013 10: 03 New
      +2
      Turn on your brains and open your eyes. If there is no desire, do not shake the icon of your idol. If you put on the State and the People, then at least do not smear the snot in public.
      1. Belogor
        Belogor April 14 2013 10: 16 New
        +2
        Why are you hysterical? Love or not love it is of little interest. And do not cover your snot with high words.
    2. Svyatoslav72
      Svyatoslav72 April 14 2013 10: 03 New
      0
      Turn on your brains and open your eyes. If there is no desire, do not shake the icon of your idol. If you put on the State and the People, then at least do not smear the snot in public.
  • Urrry
    Urrry April 14 2013 09: 54 New
    +7
    Hmm, under Stalin they said "cadres decide everything" - in our time, the saying of statesmen sounds "finance decides everything."
    A professional in his field will often lose in competition for the post of head of the "financial manager." And in the situation described in the article, apparently the same reasons are evident: the goal is not to restore and establish production as such - but "financial optimization". And there the logic is different: in order to reduce losses and increase revenues, something must be urgently sold, for example, the territory of workshops. And it’s less to work on development - for costs are today, and profits will go tomorrow, but when this "financial manager" is no longer there. And he needs to make a profit right now, today, it doesn’t matter at the same time and with an irrevocable “cutting off living things”. After all, it is precisely for this year that he wants to report on his "effectiveness" - by showing income from the sale of property and lowering the cost of developing new production! And then - even though the grass does not grow! He then by that time will pass to manage another similar enterprise - with the same tactics of "financial recovery" :(
  • VadimSt
    VadimSt April 14 2013 10: 04 New
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    The article deals with the replacement of Y. Eliseev in a letter, about the desire to see A. Inozemtsev as the Executive Director, what is really happening?
    In this conflict of interest, we can not figure it out, at least without the comments of journalists or factory workers.
    I well know the case when the company's management forced them to sign letters of support, so it’s better to wait for authoritative explanations.
    1. WS
      WS April 14 2013 12: 39 New
      0
      Think about whether the South Koreans want to unite with S. Korea under the leadership of Kim Jong-un, the same thing is happening now in Perm.
      1. VadimSt
        VadimSt April 14 2013 21: 53 New
        0
        I read with open eyes - this is a conflict in Samara. I was not going to think up and invent anything!
  • fenix57
    fenix57 April 14 2013 10: 07 New
    +3
    Quote: esaul
    I think that unsightly things in the PrFD will not be ignored. There is such a pattern - as long as these things do not exceed a certain critical mass, these figures enjoy life without suspecting that - everything is written in the "BUK"

    And hello to you, VALERY, but you yourself understand that this happens in any of the districts. And here in Primorye ... And whoever determines it is MASSA critical, the Vedas are a little late and .... an irreversible reaction. And this is RUSSIA. hi
  • igor12
    igor12 April 14 2013 10: 11 New
    +5
    It’s clear where the wind is blowing. Since the red-haired privatizer appeared on the horizon, it is necessary to shout the guard. And to be honest, the top circle surrounding the president has been fighting for more liquid enterprises for several years and arranging a redistribution of property too. I work at one of the enterprises led by Moskvich, as a result, a company with a full production the cycle was almost transferred to the category of aggregate assembly with transfer to another enterprise for final assembly, and by the way this is not the end of history, our enterprise will be restrained, and we also wrote a letter to Putin. The second city-forming enterprise has died. Such are the things.
  • Kostia1970
    Kostia1970 April 14 2013 10: 16 New
    +5
    I believe that all "actions" in the defense industry and other strategic sectors should be regarded as treason!
    1. Dim Dim
      Dim Dim April 14 2013 14: 50 New
      +1
      I support the proposal with a small addition, to return capital punishment and complete confiscation, including from relatives who knew but did not report, that is, they are accomplices.
  • fenix57
    fenix57 April 14 2013 10: 16 New
    +5
    Quote: AleksUkr
    Who is the main thief?

    "[b] [b] Deputy Prime Minister of the Russian Federation Igor Shuvalov became the wealthiest member of the Cabinet according to published data on the income of members of the Russian government. In 2012, I. Shuvalov's income amounted to 226 million 386 thousand 926 rubles." [/ b] - ANSWER.
    [b] I would like to receive an answer to a simple question: WHY ARE THE MEDIA WRITTEN-EARNED?.They are that, on piece-rate payment, if so, then in the red the whole government should be, SIGNIFICANTLY!
    [/B]
    1. AleksUkr
      AleksUkr April 14 2013 10: 29 New
      +7
      They are delighted with their importance, considering themselves successful managers. Therefore, their salary rises at times, and for us, mere mortals ON ...! The other day, Putin said that they should somewhat limit the GOLDEN parachutes and bonuses. It is to limit, not eliminate.
  • bilgesez
    bilgesez April 14 2013 10: 32 New
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    The raven will not peck out the crow.
  • fenix57
    fenix57 April 14 2013 10: 50 New
    +3
    Quote: Svyatoslav72
    . What is the difference between EBN and GDP? EBN in a "royal" disgraced and GDP on a star-promoted PR. The real Leader and Leader, immediately noticeable, but he is not in the Power, Power went to the Jesters and Hucksters as always.

    How do you say? -Pare, good. Here is an excerpt from an article about Navalny (after all, it’s closer to you in spirit, as they say, anything but GDP): On April 17, the trial of Alexei Navalny in the Kirovles case will begin. But, as Nezavisimaya Gazeta writes, the authorities will no longer have to judge a simple blogger, but a politician. Navalny publicly announced his intention to participate in the 2018 presidential election. He also has the support of the People’s Alliance party, which has filed documents for registration with the Justice Ministry. According to Fedor Krasheninnikov, a member of the presidium of the Central Council of NA, Alexei Navalny is the party’s spiritual leader.
    How do you like this move: from the criminal to the political. PRESTIGIOUS, And ... From the primitive "cormorant" and "prisoners of conscience"
    see http://www.bbc.co.uk/russian/russia/2013/04/130412_rus_press.shtml
    1. Svyatoslav72
      Svyatoslav72 April 14 2013 12: 06 New
      +1
      In spirit, closer to me (in Power) A.G. Xi Jinping. Ivan the Terrible (grip and harshness), but Russia has its own way. About Navalny: - Everything is simple, obviously an impassable option, a lot of noise out of thin air (although if you want and spend a certain resource, you can make the president out of anyone). Most likely the project of the Kremlin Administration: 1. A lot of noise from nothing, all the energy of hope and discontent in one "sink". 2. To Power from the Bottom, yours to the board. 3. People party-goer, school of life. 4. Do not wait until the Consequences destroy the Illusions, do the News Yourself.
      Too simple to think a lot.
    2. djon3volta
      djon3volta April 14 2013 13: 52 New
      +2
      Quote: fenix57
      How do you like this move: from criminal to political.

      Khodorkovsky also wanted to indulge in 2004))) they made a political prisoner out of a thief. And who did it? The West, the United States, and human rights activists. But Khodorkovsky is a thief and a murderer, and this is not a secret.
  • Garysit
    Garysit April 14 2013 11: 02 New
    +3
    It is high time to drive all these "stewards" - luntiks and a hedgehog with them. They only think that they can manage, but in fact agents of influence and destroyers of the state !!!!!
  • stas
    stas April 14 2013 11: 06 New
    +2
    And such Putin’s crap in almost all areas of Russian life.
    Putin has such a personnel policy, and the rest is only a consequence. The root cause must be eliminated.
    If those who are against Putin are mistaken, and Putin is better, then in the end everyone wins, and who is for and who is against. And first of all, the people of Russia.
    But if those who are for Putin are mistaken, we will all wash ourselves with tears and blood.
    All economically developed countries of the world have long worked out a way to prevent great corruption - this is a change of power and political competition.
    What Putin completely ignores. It is unlikely that Russia will survive the 11 years of his reign, as he measured himself?
    1. WS
      WS April 14 2013 12: 45 New
      0
      Putin at least made himself, entered Yur.Fak, etc. Soon, the generation of Raspyzdyev will approach the management, "whom the Papas of Mother stuffed (aren't they Vasiliev?). Then we’ll dance!
  • Homeless
    Homeless April 14 2013 11: 23 New
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    You don’t know, people, how badly it is to live in a foreign land, which used to be part of the Great Country, when they came to power, but this is all nonsense, compared to when you see that Russia is in your beloved country, some are trying to ruin the main strength of the country, its defenses. I understand that we living today in a foreign land can not do anything for this, but you can do it. You live in Russia, and you are people, its main support. Do not let freaks with empty eyes ruin your strength, make noise, defend people really valuable for the country, defend values ​​with all available means, first of all defense enterprises, do not let freaks run their paws into the great value of Russia, do not try to chat and write everything GDP and Shoigu, seek the truth. There will be no Rossi - there will not be all of us and our children, grandchildren, there will be nothing.
    1. Karabin
      Karabin April 14 2013 19: 52 New
      +3
      Quote: Homeless
      don’t trynd in the chats, but write all the GDP and Shoigu, seek the truth.

      They have petitions and so all the corridors are littered. Lack of gentlemen. It is necessary to drive them, not to translate paper.
  • ars_pro
    ars_pro April 14 2013 11: 26 New
    0
    It’s sad to read, in vain Eleseyev filed a letter of resignation, even in relation to his own workers, left them alone, although they did not let him in, but as you know, a “new broom sweeps in a new way.” At least it’s nice that people are fighting God to help them in this not easy “corridor” endeavor.
  • vjatsergey
    vjatsergey April 14 2013 11: 37 New
    +5
    I am not enthusiastic about Putin, but if you look at others, then there is no one worthy. The communists are not the same, remember the film "Communist", and so there are none. LDPR? It’s not that at all. Well, I don’t want to talk about the rest.
  • honest jew
    honest jew April 14 2013 11: 42 New
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    What do you want from Putin? To immediately take and transplant all thieves and bribe takers? Then the prisons will not be enough this time, and secondly it will be necessary to plant the entire political elite and not only it! Because bribes are taken and stolen, and it all started back in the era of Kukuruznik! If Putin started to infringe on everyone and put him in prison, then he will be removed immediately! Therefore, Putin immediately built his own special way to fight the corrupt elite immediately after coming to power! This path is an authority on the international scene. With such authority, Putin is no longer the scapegoat that Kirienko did in his time to blame him for DEFAULT. Putin waits for all thieves to bite together! Stalin also waited a long time, did not immediately show who he was , but then the results went and yes what !!!! Just Putin has no one to rely on and trust. There are no cadres !!!! Those who were ruining the USSR! Therefore, the All-Russian Popular Front was created as a replacement for the corrupt Edra, so to help Putin we must start with ourselves! Participate in political and public activities to fight embezzlement and bribery on the ground !!! If everyone will do at least something in this direction, the results will be visible !!! And Putin, he is not GOD, he cannot do everything at once, although the results are already terrific! Keep it up Vladimir Vladimirovich !!! Go Russia !!!
    1. 77bor1973
      77bor1973 April 14 2013 11: 48 New
      +4
      And you can not plant, these just need to be ordered.
    2. Black
      Black April 14 2013 12: 16 New
      +8
      Quote: honest Jew
      To immediately take and transplant all thieves and bribe takers? Then the prisons will not be enough this time, and secondly it will be necessary to plant the entire political elite and not only it!

      If this is the only problem, I’m ready to provide the state with a cellar in the country for these purposes.
      "Throw the people to thieves in Zindane !!!"

      Putin is waiting say? no one to go next with? And what prevents him from turning directly to the people? Or will it go another 40 years? I'm afraid, just the people will die and the embezzler will just get stronger!
    3. stas
      stas April 14 2013 12: 19 New
      -2
      Jews and even honest, rarely praise Russia and its leader. Usually vilified and ridiculed.
      At one time, Gorbachev and Yeltsin were praised.
      Only Russia from these leaders was bad.
      1. Black
        Black April 14 2013 22: 11 New
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        Quote: stas
        Jews and even honest, rarely praise Russia and its leader. Usually vilified and ridiculed.

        Necha blame the mirror, since the face is crooked!
        Anti-Semitism, Stas, is not good. Gorbachev - Russian, Khrushchev - not a Jew, Yeltsin - in the same place. praise? admire?
        Do not judge people by their nationality.
    4. Svyatoslav72
      Svyatoslav72 April 14 2013 12: 23 New
      +5
      Hello! Citizen. AND! Do you think Russia will forever wait until it decomposes with accomplices, waiting for someone to eat someone? Do not make me laugh. Where is the basic foundation of his “Right Board”, what norms and motives rule him? Yes! NO, ordinary market bastard. It is not necessary to assume that Time is eternal for you, and everything will be fine without the right actions and accumulated potential. It's simple, it's like a SANDWATCH, if something is gone it will not be returned. There is no need to deceive yourself and build illusions on standard errors.
    5. optimist
      optimist April 14 2013 12: 26 New
      10
      Respected! Around the GDP there are so many “honest Jews” (Abramovichs, promissory notes, Chubais, Rottenbergs, etc.). So don’t be too zealous: you don’t have enough space there. Let’s wait another 100 years while the “King Herod” will have “someone to lean on”. Just all Russians will have a rest, and there will be only "honest Jews", "honest Caucasians", "honest Central Asians", etc.
    6. Romch
      Romch April 14 2013 13: 15 New
      +5
      Quote: honest Jew
      What do you want from Putin? To immediately take and transplant all thieves and bribe takers? Then the prisons will not be enough this time, and secondly it will be necessary to plant the entire political elite and not only it! Because bribes are taken and stolen, and it all started back in the era of Kukuruznik! If Putin starts to infringe on everyone and plant them, then he will be removed immediately

      The speech for the lawyer is excellent, but we must not forget that Putin is the president, and if they begin to give real time to the embezzlers then they will steal less. I'm not talking about the fact that it is possible to eradicate theft 100%, but what the scope is now, this is already beyond, and these ghouls use it. Stole, so what, nothing will happen anyway. Impunity is the key to calm embezzlers.
      1. Romch
        Romch April 14 2013 13: 18 New
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        that's for sure. [media = http: //25427-slepakov-pesnya-rossiyskogo-chinovnika.html]
    7. Karabin
      Karabin April 14 2013 19: 55 New
      +4
      Quote: honest Jew
      Therefore, the All-Russian Popular Front was created as a substitute for the corrupt Unit

      Rather like a whistle on a pipe to release steam.
  • My address
    My address April 14 2013 12: 31 New
    +4
    In continuation.
    Until about 2006, Putin liked it. By the way, and now I consider him a patriot. But with 6 of the year, there are more and more bewilders in his actions. It is clear that he still inherited the inheritance, that the personnel shortage was not only for specialists, but, most importantly, for those who were not indifferent. Nevertheless, a lot of questions about Chubais, Kudrin, about taking as advisors to Golikova, Fursenko, about meetings ending with slogans (forest industry, fishing, merchant fleet). You can not do it this way. Said "A", it is necessary to say and "B." You can not close your eyes for ten years unsolvable problems. Every problem has a surname, even if it is a good person. One of the principles of management in the equality of rights, duties and responsibilities. We have weak with the duty of taking action to subordinates. If ministers like Serdyukov are at liberty, then the clerks will take out even light bulbs from the office with a gun.
  • Goldmitro
    Goldmitro April 14 2013 12: 36 New
    +8
    <<< Assign "dunno" - people who can only carry out orders to manipulate financial flows. >>>
    However, HOW these managers have already reached and only know how to “manipulate” financial flows! Taburetkin and his team, who were not knowledgeable in military matters, were also DOMANIPULATED from this company of cash flow manipulators until now that the IC could not decide where and how many of these flows of state finances flowed past our army and defense industry! It is clearer than clear that these "manipulators" of cash flows are NOT THE PLACE at the head of the leading sectors on which the country's defense and economic security depend! The only thing where they can be allowed to operate without fear of serious harm is to allow them to manipulate the flow of feces, directing the work of plumbing infrastructure objects!
  • slvevg
    slvevg April 14 2013 12: 53 New
    0
    Quote: esaul
    Quote: My address
    He is weak head.


    good afternoon hi Excuse me, who did you mean? If - Putin, then I have no choice but to respond to your "umo" conclusion to place an emoticon in your address - fool
    As for the situation with the Samara enterprise, I understand the pain of the author of the article, I support his efforts and calls for support to save his native plant, but (in response to the mournful posts in the spirit of "everyone has gone!") I consider it premature to sprinkle ash on your head. Most likely the situation has not yet reached the level of intervention of the First Person. The fact that Eliseev was forced to put a statement on the table does not mean that "the resignation is accepted." In general, nothing changes in the sublunary world ... I recall the analogy with the butting of Sukhoi with Antonov when the USSR was. There, the legendary “weaving” of Sukhoi was stolen because of the banal nepotism of Antonov with the first persons of the state, and the “dry” was “dropped”, despite the mass of advanced technical solutions used in the “hundred”.
    And yet ... It is difficult for us (many here - on the site) to judge everything that happens at the described enterprise, what subtle combinations are played there. But, nevertheless, I believe that we should collectively support the call of the Aviadvigatel collective and ask the Administration on our "behalf" to send the appropriate letters (call it what you like), both to the collective and to those structures on which fate depends and successful activity vital for the country enterprise.
    Good morning everyone! hi
  • Ghost of darkness
    Ghost of darkness April 14 2013 12: 57 New
    +1
    Watch out for the scoundrel! the turn will reach you! Putin sees everyone and everything!
  • Harleone
    Harleone April 14 2013 13: 05 New
    +9
    Because Putin is a scoundrel
  • fenix57
    fenix57 April 14 2013 13: 11 New
    +1
    Quote: Svyatoslav72
    In spirit, closer to me (in Power) A.G. Xi Jinping. Ivan the Terrible (grip and sharpness)

    I apologize. hi
  • Kalita
    Kalita April 14 2013 13: 23 New
    +3
    What about on the day of the liberal-NOT?
  • stalkerwalker
    stalkerwalker April 14 2013 14: 23 New
    +4
    My dear FORUM!
    Let someone write here who has NEVER STORED ANYTHING IN ANY LIFE at the factory (a nut from a factory, a pen from an office, an apple from someone else's garden), or in a reasonable childhood ???
    Or none of us, peeing here, has never in my life popped chocolate in gratitude, or haggled with traffic cops on the spot and cash item?
    So why are you shedding tears for crocodiles?
    Already wrote, but I repeat - GOOD AND FUN TO POST COMMENTS, SITTING WITH A CIGARETTE, COFFEE, BEER (required to underline) sitting at the monitor with clave ...
    "Moscow was not built right away ..", although he himself is not a Muscovite, a provincial.
    All this "raiding" - financial, robbery, is not done by Martians, not AmyRkans, not Chinese with penguins from the Antarctic .... All this has been done, is being done and will be done by our NEIGHBORS, FRIENDS, RELATIVES and simply FAMOUS.
    1. Horde
      Horde April 14 2013 16: 19 New
      +5
      Let someone write here who has NEVER STORED ANYTHING IN ANY LIFE at the factory (a nut from a factory, a pen from an office, an apple from someone else's garden), or in a reasonable childhood ???
      Or none of us, peeing here, has never in my life popped chocolate in gratitude, or haggled with traffic cops on the spot and cash item?


      Well, what do you compare BILLION stolen stools and all these BUSINESSES covered by Putin, as well as INDUSTRY INDUSTRIES obliterated by Chubais with nuts and chocolates? Do you think people are completely crazy about you? however, these most likely are YOUR SPIRITUAL PARTNERS since childhood.
      1. stalkerwalker
        stalkerwalker April 14 2013 16: 56 New
        +4
        Quote: Horde
        however, these most likely are YOUR SPIRITUAL PARTNERS since childhood.


        You save emotions and ORGANIZATIONS to your wife ... drinks

        The question is simple: where do all these grumblers come from?
        The answer is: not from space.
        I will add: if a person does not work for 2 thousand rubles per month - he (she) will not work for 20 and 200 thousand rubles. And so for all other "mortal sins" - greed, pride, etc.

        "Search for the extreme" here on the forum - an ungrateful and stupid lesson ...
        hi
        1. Horde
          Horde April 14 2013 17: 39 New
          +1
          The question is simple: where do all these grumblers come from?


          shit question, maybe I heard that not everyone likes CAPITALISM especially Putin's

          if a person does not work for 2 thousand rubles a month - he (she) will not work for 20 and 200 thousand rubles.


          if a person does not work for 2tysch. rub. , that means it works for 50-70 thousand. , such as in Moscow. What's the catch?

          Search for extreme "here on the forum - an ungrateful and stupid lesson ...


          such as you can see with the UNLOADED gaze.
          1. stalkerwalker
            stalkerwalker April 14 2013 17: 45 New
            +4
            Quote: Horde
            such as you can see with the UNLOADED gaze.


            1. And you, by chance, are not clairvoyants from the TNT channel? Somehow you quickly "examine" everyone and make a diagnosis?
            2. Shit - your reasoning. Think like a primate. Sorry for the insult - quite in the spirit of your "pearl."
            Good luck!
            hi
            1. Horde
              Horde April 14 2013 18: 21 New
              +4
              And you, by chance, are not clairvoyants from the TNT channel? Somehow you quickly "examine" everyone and make a diagnosis?


              I don’t look at the box, AMORAL and INSURANCE of Putin’s TV space have already gotten, as for you, in the article that says DESTRUCTION of one of the BEST ENTERPRISES of Russia, your wild maxims that thieves in Russia are annoying.
              Think like a primate. Sorry for the insult - quite in the spirit of your "pearl."


              yes dude, instead of wiggling convolutions and saying something clever, since you’ve gotten into the fuel and you accuse everyone of thievery, then the thief is probably the one who shouts the loudest, grab the thief. laughing
              1. stalkerwalker
                stalkerwalker April 14 2013 18: 33 New
                +3
                Quote: Horde
                EVERYONE IS IN THE THEFT, then there must be a THIEF whoever shouts the loudest, grab a THIEF


                Yes, wrong, guys, everything is wrong .... lol
        2. Ivan Kalinovich
          Ivan Kalinovich April 14 2013 23: 31 New
          +1
          And being a lawyer to embezzlers means "noble and sensible" ((((
          1. stalkerwalker
            stalkerwalker April 15 2013 00: 17 New
            +3
            Quote: Ivan Kalinovich
            And being a lawyer to embezzlers means "noble and sensible" ((((

            Guys, please - read carefully !!!
            Not between lines and diagonally ....
            Theft is based on greed, one of mortal sins.
            We are all subject to these sins - he wrote about that.
            And what those who we know steal is what we are talking about.
            And to draw hasty conclusions, and build your own accusations on them, is the destiny of the SARROW and SELF-CONFIDENT NEXTLINE people.
            The head is given not only to wear a hat.

            Plus - for a sensible question.
            I hope that I answered sensibly.
            hi
    2. stalkerwalker
      stalkerwalker April 14 2013 20: 09 New
      +3
      Quote: stalkerwalker
      the one who will NEVER STRAIN ANYTHING IN HIS LIFE -when in production (a nut from a factory, a pen from an office, an apple from someone else’s garden), or in a reasonable childhood ???

      Those who minus - you do not observe a halo over your heads? Or are they not reflected in the mirror?
      request
  • Dim Dim
    Dim Dim April 14 2013 14: 28 New
    +2
    Quote: Nikolay S.
    Quote: esaul
    How dare he do to strengthen the country and strengthen the economy! This is not presidential!

    I respect Putin too. But what considerations have made him keep Chubais and Dimon-iPhone for so many years, I can’t understand. Inexplicably. I can’t believe the fairy tale that these are “effective managers”, I can only laugh, and even that is “bitter”.

    The answer is very simple, the Boss said.
  • Zomanus
    Zomanus April 14 2013 14: 55 New
    +6
    It is a pity of course, if the company is closed. It seems to me that the party allowed Putin to rearm the army and navy. Because I clearly understood that without this, her glade would simply be taken away without asking the boys from the West. Now, if you look at it from such an angle? And we here rejoice, praise Putin ... I will not say anything about the bloody regime. But special about development too.
  • varov14
    varov14 April 14 2013 15: 11 New
    +5
    Nothing will change in our swamp, it’s just that for the time being Putin exchanged places with Medvedev. I remember that even Medvedev began to fight corruption at the end of his term, Putin simply continued, and they are obviously not at the top link, they will not surrender their own. Serdyukov, they don’t know how to smear it off, he got into a fool, but they let him down on the brakes. The whole struggle is solid windmills.
  • varov14
    varov14 April 14 2013 15: 21 New
    +2
    Nothing will change in our swamp, just Putin has temporarily swapped places with Medvedev. By the way, even Medvedev began to fight corruption at the end of his term, Putin just continues, and obviously not the highest link. Take Serdyukov, accidentally came under distribution, now they don’t know how to smear, smaller bipods are already sitting, sometimes they show a “fight” on TV.
  • Rrv
    Rrv April 14 2013 16: 00 New
    +1
    "WHY PUTIN DOESN'T MISS THE BAD?" “Why doesn't he notice?” At the expense of dishonest people, morons and provocateurs, he spoke quite clearly.

    "WHY PUTIN DOESN'T DISTURB THE CHUBAIS ACTIVITY?" - First of all, you need to understand that the views of these "state" figures coincide in some respects (Chubais’s statement about Dostoevsky and the Russians).

    Also, do not forget who Sobchak was and what kind of activity (for which Putin worked successfully), thanks to whom it was Putin who moved to Moscow, whose family he continues to maintain loyalty to and why.

    The answers on the surface, and the conclusions (which can be drawn from them) are quite unambiguous.
  • George
    George April 14 2013 16: 26 New
    +1
    I appeal to the moderators.
    Why the moderators do not notice that he is throwing the game out of the site? request
    1. sanyabasik
      sanyabasik April 14 2013 22: 23 New
      0
      The moderators sent me instructions on how to clear the cache (I am poorly versed in this). Everything is fine, it helped.
  • Phoenix bird
    Phoenix bird April 14 2013 17: 04 New
    -1
    He (Puten) is really a political coward.
    There is plenty of evidence for this. Starting with the trial of girls, and hasty repeated increases in salaries to the military (when numerous rallies began), the prosecutor's office, the FSB ... Numerous repetitions: "We need to think more about the man!" in almost every speech, etc.

    Well, in general, Puten has exhausted himself and has become a burden for the country. I believe that he himself feels this, but fear for his future forces him to tighten the screws, because the people have more and more complaints about him
    1. djon3volta
      djon3volta April 14 2013 18: 34 New
      -2
      Quote: Phoenix Bird
      because the people have more and more complaints about it

      which nation I can’t understand request well, we all saw this people, 120 thousand out of a maximum of 143 million, it is 0.1% of the population of the whole country. why 0.1% of the population decides how we all live and who needs to be changed for 99.9%, I don’t agree, and 10 million Muscovites also disagree with the 120 thousandth belolentochnaya lads. if they agreed they would have gone too, well, at least 400-600 thousand were collected, but not collected! in 1989 in China hamsters were crushed by tanks, and GDP growth immediately started at 10 % per annum and the economic recovery, maybe they wound navalists with daredevils on caterpillars, maybe in Russia the economy will start growing at 7-9% per year?
      1. Dim Dim
        Dim Dim April 14 2013 22: 39 New
        +1
        You don’t need “navalists with daredevils”, they attract foreign investment, but you probably heard how many of them were piled in the first quarter of the year, and this is only legal. And the company with the white-collar workers seems inspired by the president’s business affairs to distract people from the real problems in the country.
  • de klermon
    de klermon April 14 2013 17: 20 New
    +2
    RRV! The answers to your questions are really on the surface: "family"? - EBN is dead, who needs revenge? Nain? The rest, led by Dyachenko? When was the last time you heard about them? Chubais? Have you heard about the test in Rusnano? The Accounts Chamber is still only halfway, and its auditors are already struggling to find the right words so as not to fall into the norm! Let's see how it ends! Views? Have you often read and listened to Putin? No comment! .. You need to love your homeland and, as Putin said, like St. Francis to spud his garden! And about the bastards ... You need to remember about them so that you can’t put new ones on your neck !!!
    1. Rrv
      Rrv April 14 2013 18: 01 New
      +4
      de klermon

      There is no one to take revenge, and it is not necessary - neither then nor now. But is restoration of law or justice revenge? Decree number 1 remember? This pointer, and this with law and justice, oh how it diverges.

      The last time I heard about the family during the scandal with Pozner is that the guys do not live in poverty.

      Verification in Rusnano - and then verification, that would be classified data. And then - such checks should not be carried out during a rush (as it is now), but constantly, systematically (however, the next year or two will show).

      I listened more to Putin, read less - which I advise you too. Maybe after listening to his statements since the year 2000, you and I will ask yourself a question - does the guarantor suffer from sclerosis? Almost identical declarations of intent, delivered once or twice a year, definitely suggest this idea. )))

      But at the expense of the bastards, I completely agree with you.