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It is finished! The United States protected our rights ...

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It is finished ... What the American defenders of world humanism and their Russian apprentices for a long time frightened Russia, has happened. The general public has finally gained access to such a document as the “Magnitsky list”, announced as a list of persons before whom the doors of the most democratic and humane state in the world are closed. In the final version of the list (in the part that concerns common use), 18 people are designated who, for what reason, violated human rights in Russia, drank blood from innocent people and generally allowed themselves to do this, from which unshakable adherents of the American version of democracy have literally everything inside so gurgling.


Who was in this "public" version of the list? Why "public"? - Yes, because there is information that besides it, our American "friends" have a secret part at their disposal, the announcement of which may allegedly inflict an irreversible blow to the security of the country ...

So, the "Magnitsky list" is in front of you:

Former Head of the Butyrka SIZO Dmitry Komnov,

investigator Pavel Karpov,

Andrei Pechegin, Head of the Department for Supervision of Investigation of Criminal Cases at the Investigation Committee of the Russian Federation;

Head of "Matrosskaya Tishina" Ivan Prokopenko,

ex-head IFSN 25 Elena Kimina,

the former head of the tax inspectorate №28 Olga Stepanova,

Deputy Head of 6 Division of 2 ORC UNP at Moscow Department of Internal Affairs Artem Kuznetsov,

Kuznetsov's subordinate Alexey Droganov (one of the organizers of the searches in the Hermitage Capital),

Kuznetsov's subordinate Dmitry Tolchinsky (one of the organizers of the searches in the Hermitage Capital),

deputy head of the UK under the Ministry of Interior Natalya Vinogradova

Judge Elena Stashina,

Judge Sergey Podoprigorov,

Judge Alexei Krivoruchko,

Judge Svetlana Ukhnaleva

Deputy head of the UK under the Ministry of Internal Affairs Oleg Logunov,

investigator Oleg Silchenko,

person involved in the murder of journalist Paul Khlebnikov - Kazbek Dukuzov,

the defendant in the case of the murder of the security guard Ramzan Kadyrov, who (the guard) made accusations against Kadyrov - Lecha Bogatirov (Bogatyrev).

These people (according to the letter of the law adopted in the USA) will not be able to enter the territory of the United States, and their accounts in American banks (if any) will be frozen.

Senator Benjamin Cardin, one of the main ideological inspirers of the struggle for the rights of individual people, managed to speak out about the list adopted recently in the US (in the US, Magnitsky’s list is often referred to as Cardin’s list, as the authorities cannot explain to ordinary Americans who why in the United States precisely this surname provoked an urgent need to recall human rights in Russia, forgetting about the rights of ordinary Americans themselves).

Mr. Cardin called the adoption of the Magnitsky list historical and (important) only the first step. Well, with the historical - understandable. Indeed, the creation of a list of banned persons and the freezing of certain hypothetical accounts in American banks based on the excessive suspiciousness of individual citizens will go down in the history of world jurisprudence. But the words about the “first” step are interesting. Apparently, Senator Cardin is again loading his worn-out powder flasks with gunpowder in order to inflict another democratic blow on “dense” and “anti-legal” Russia. Well, it’s necessary for the senator to somehow work out the money of American taxpayers ... Although why are we so sure that Cardin will deliver his next “sizzling” blow to Russia? Perhaps, in his office, the walls are pasted over with other versions of the lists à la Magnitsky - for Belarus, Ukraine, Kazakhstan, for example. And there’s Iran, Syria, China, Cuba — and Senator Cardin’s work — there’s no end ... Just have time to read foreign opposition publications, meet with representatives of US-funded foreign NGOs and cook up your “hot” lists.

Such a person as William Browder was very enthusiastic about accepting the Magnitsky list in the USA. Still the Browder was not inspired by this circumstance! After all, it was Browder who once implemented the criminal tax evasion scheme in Russia, using his “wonderful” fund of Kalmyk invalids to cover up the work. After identifying this scheme, Browder’s business in Russia was declared illegal, and he himself was banned from entering the country. Browder was unable to forgive the Russian authorities that they had deprived him of the opportunity to conduct his dirty business, after which the story of Magnitsky’s death, which (death), by the way, was more beneficial for Browder himself, and began to be exaggerated with violent energy. Now Browder is happy that he has revenged on Russia he has plundered. At the same time, Browder expresses some dissatisfaction with the fact that the list turned out to be shorter than the one he was counting on. Here is a quote from Mr. Browder:

But there are still many names that need to be added to this list - both those who were involved in the unlawful arrest, torture and death of Magnitsky, and those who were involved in other egregious human rights violations in Russia.


The question is, since when did “friend Bill” (Browder) become so concerned about the observance of human rights in the Russian Federation? Not long since, when he began to arrange one-day companies for helpless people with disabilities in Elista, paying those “luxurious” fees for entire 500 rubles ...

In an interview with the Russia Today TV channel, Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov bluntly stated that it was Mr. Browder who had lobbied Magnitsky’s act in the United States. Lavrov called the list adopted in the United States a tool that replaced the “anti-Soviet baton,” which for a long time was the Jackson-Vanik amendment.
Quote Sergei Lavrov:

After it became obvious, members of Congress decided to somehow compensate for the anti-Soviet (and now anti-Russian) “bludgeon” and came up with the “law of the name of Sergei Magnitsky”. This law was most actively lobbied on Capitol Hill by William Browder, and then it rushed through all the countries of Europe and offered to adopt “anti-magnetic laws” in European parliaments.


At the same time, Lavrov noted that if the USA is so concerned about the death of Magnitsky in the Russian SIZO, then why is the investigation into the death of Alexander Litvinenko in the UK so difficult, and why does the Netherlands not provide information about the suicide investigation in one of the local prisons of Alexander Dolmatov .

Well, now from the reaction to the published list of Magnitsky, let's say, high-ranking people, it is worth moving to the reaction of ordinary Russians to the list adopted in the USA. And for ordinary Russians, this list, by and large, both stood and rode ... Why? Yes, because 99% of Russians do not have accounts in American banks, and ordinary Russians do not stand in line for a visa to the United States. Therefore, protection of their rights by the main world democrats seems to be a very ephemeral substance, from which neither hot nor cold. And if ordinary Russians from the Magnitsky list are neither hot nor cold, then whose rights does he protect? ..
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  1. VadimSt
    VadimSt April 15 2013 07: 26 New
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    By analogy with the Jackson-Vanik amendment, repeal at the beginning of the XXII century. Russian men are harsh, and women are hardy - they will wait!
    1. esaul
      esaul April 15 2013 07: 29 New
      76
      In this situation, I am surprised by the naivety of the minke whales, generated by years of unquestioning dominance of their opinions over everyone else.
      Приняв свой закон, они "возмутились" ответным российским законом и по старой привычке принялись объяснять нам, неразумным, что мы должны были сделать ! Мы должны были ( по их понятиям), вместо принятия ответного документа, принять строгие меры к фигурантам американского законаи сделать соответствующие выводы...! Это всё равно, что гопник начинает учить бОтана разговаривать с людЯми вежливо. Занятная картина маслом получается! laughing
      1. Vladimirets
        Vladimirets April 15 2013 07: 39 New
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        Quote: esaul
        Приняв свой закон, они "возмутились" ответным российским законом и по старой привычке принялись объяснять нам, неразумным, что мы должны были сделать ! Мы должны были ( по их понятиям), вместо принятия ответного документа, принять строгие меры к фигурантам американского законаи сделать соответствующие выводы...!

        It seems to me that we should take off our pants and show them the fifth point in its original, so to speak, form, and then put on our pants and continue to do our own business further, let them croak.
        1. esaul
          esaul April 15 2013 07: 46 New
          +7
          Quote: Vladimirets
          I think we should take off our pants and show them the fifth point in its original, so to speak, form

          From today's Internet - the USA passed a law prohibiting walking down the street with his pants down.

          http://rt-russian.livejournal.com/1565973.html


          But, since they are not a decree for us, then PRALNA will be after such an action
          Quote: Vladimirets
          continue to go about their business further, let them croak
          1. Vladimirets
            Vladimirets April 15 2013 07: 58 New
            +6
            Quote: esaul
            From today's Internet - the USA passed a law prohibiting walking down the street with his pants down.

            I don’t understand, but what about freedom of expression !? what
            1. family tree
              family tree April 15 2013 18: 46 New
              +6
              Hospadi! He took off his pants completely, and express yourself! With deflated impossible, then it’s possible with the shot wassat
          2. Quiet
            Quiet April 15 2013 21: 50 New
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            From today's Internet - the USA passed a law prohibiting walking down the street with his pants down.

            Hire a macaque and show her bare ass !!!! lol I think that here they have a gap in the legislation !!!! fool laughing
          3. Quiet
            Quiet April 15 2013 21: 50 New
            +3
            From today's Internet - the USA passed a law prohibiting walking down the street with his pants down.

            Hire a macaque and show her bare ass !!!! lol I think that here they have a gap in the legislation !!!! fool laughing
          4. Ilya Kovalenko
            Ilya Kovalenko April 15 2013 23: 20 New
            +1
            So no one is going to walk smile .We will just show you all the things wink
            1. avdkrd
              avdkrd April 16 2013 01: 26 New
              +2
              That's right, you can show and standing, there is no need to walk. The main thing is not to bend down, otherwise they are actually waiting for this))))
              1. Ilya Kovalenko
                Ilya Kovalenko April 16 2013 18: 22 New
                0
                We will show and offer them bend down :)
              2. Ilya Kovalenko
                Ilya Kovalenko April 16 2013 18: 28 New
                0
                It’s clear that we’ll not bend down while showing. In turn, we’ll suggest bending over to them :)
        2. Sirocco
          Sirocco April 15 2013 07: 58 New
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          Quote: Vladimirets
          I think we should take off our pants and show them the fifth point in its original, so to speak, form

          Bravo!!!! For many of us, this amendment is like a fifth wheel cart. Let them bring in all of Russia laughing I will say the words of V.S. Vysotsky. They don’t let me in from here, but they don’t take it there. laughing So to speak, the populace of Russia is scaring naked pop. ))))))))
          1. NOBODY EXCEPT US
            NOBODY EXCEPT US April 15 2013 21: 24 New
            +5
            You don’t need to, I, too, though it’s just that we will never be on these lists .... but the thousands of our officials and deputies and their families startled not childishly, and if Europe still joins, how will they drop Pehta villas in Miami or Cote d'Azur ??? .. and before you and I, I think the State Department is up to the bulb .....
            1. Ilya Kovalenko
              Ilya Kovalenko April 15 2013 23: 27 New
              0
              Personally, I care about the shudders and problems of officials, but they do not care about the problems of the people. Is it not so?
        3. Ascetic
          Ascetic April 15 2013 08: 57 New
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          Quote: Vladimirets
          It seems to me that we should take off our pants and show them the fifth point in its original, so to speak, form, and then put on our pants and continue to do our own business further, let them croak.


          It is necessary simply.
          1. The religious sect of Chabad and Hasidism recognized extremist organizations.
          2. Prohibit Russian citizens from having citizenship of another state.

          And then Browder will be forced to eat this list instead of a forshmak for a snack.

          And the fact that this act does not concern the majority of citizens is true, but let's not forget that outright scammers and Russophobes wiped their feet on our STATE, and that no one can be forgiven ... Stalin would send an ice ax to Browder ..
          1. Z.A.M.
            Z.A.M. April 15 2013 09: 34 New
            +8
            Ascetic
            Welcome.
            Quote: Ascetic
            2. Prohibit Russian citizens from having citizenship of another state.
            Полностью согласен, давно пора...но что-то, первое,- не "КАКается", а, второе,- может и не "тужится".

            Quote: Ascetic
            And the fact that this act does not concern the majority of citizens is true,
            Ahhh! Absolute!


            Quote: Ascetic
            but let's not forget that outright scammers and Russophobes wiped their feet about our STATE,
            А здесь не соглашусь. В части. Это как принимать будем. Если придавать СЛИШКОМ большое значение, как самим США, так и их "пукам" lol in respect of officials России, а это именно - ПУК, то нынешняя ситуация с реакцией понятна. К тому-же "ПУК" в отношении "мелочи".
            А можно ведь относится и как к "моське". Не раздувая, тихонечко принять и отправить, и усмехаться уже над ними.
            In short, what you call a yacht, so it ...
            For ours, in Yarkhovnyh, this situation, an example should be - HOW IT IS NECESSARY TO DEFEND YOUR INTERESTS. AND PROTECT your citizenswhen they are abroad in bida.

            PS And ... it would be interesting, in Russia, to offer to our CITIZENS enter last names ours officials on this list laughing И "гаранту" показать. repeat Surely, the nape would have been scratched.
            hi
            1. baltika-18
              baltika-18 April 15 2013 09: 44 New
              +8
              Quote: Z.A.M.
              But here I do not agree. In part. This is how we will accept.

              I personally don’t give a damn about it. And who was brought in and why?
              You don’t go to America to drive and engage in financial operations abroad, and also do not give a damn. Well, they wrote, but they wrote, why should the tragedy be done?
              На месте нашего руководства отправил бы им письмо:"вытрите вашим списком себе заднее место,нам по барабану" и разговор окончен.
              1. stroporez
                stroporez April 15 2013 16: 32 New
                +2
                в том то и дело,что "руководству" не пох..........
              2. Mikhail3
                Mikhail3 April 16 2013 18: 19 New
                +2
                And I would have acted differently. It would be worth introducing a mandatory procedure for senior officials - when taking up a high post, they would have to send a polite petition to the SGA to be included in this list. Allow three attempts - if it does not work politely - you must send impolite. Third - in the style of a letter from the Cossacks to the Turkish Sultan. And if amerikosy continue to rest, are not included in the candidate list - check it again and as it should! When occupying a serious position, those who are fortunate enough to be included in this list should use the preemptive right!
                What our officials are sorely lacking is the proven loyalty to our state. And here such help is offered ... Apparently, their parliament limited itself to the employees of the penitentiary system in the explicit part of the list precisely because it was afraid of such a reaction. Well this is like an order - the whole SGA is afraid of letting me even on the threshold. So I’m a friend of everyone to whom the SGA is an enemy. What political and economic opportunities! Must use.
                With regards to those who, like me, are not interested in villas in Miami (I have a pitchfork anyway) - can we join collectively? I would sign up simply out of extreme contempt for their state ...
            2. Prorox
              Prorox April 15 2013 18: 44 New
              +4
              Quote: Z.A.M.
              in relation to Russian officials


              Вы закон внимательно прочтите, там нет категории чиновник или должностное лицо, зато присутствует понятие любой нарушивший право на "развитие демократии, свобод и общепринятых ценностей" и кто все эти "ценности" предлагать будет надеюсь не надо объяснять.
            3. Che
              Che April 15 2013 19: 43 New
              +3
              I would bring Taburetkina with his ladies, that would be good. And most of our people have this list on the drum.
          2. Egoza
            Egoza April 15 2013 10: 16 New
            +9
            Quote: Ascetic
            Stalin would send an ice ax to Browder ..

            A lot of honor for such a jerk!
            Просто в США по сей день думают, что во всем мире и в России только и мечтают как в США попасть! Пусть думают....впрочем, принятые в ответ законы в России четко покажут США, что на их "мнения" России наплевать. И это их бесит больше всего!
            1. razdva
              razdva April 15 2013 15: 48 New
              0
              Do not defeat the United States in the Cold War, I doubt that you would express your opinion here and more than sure that you wanted to get into the United States)))))))))))))))
              about dignity, I hope I heard? so decent people usually use it. but you just heard
          3. APASUS
            APASUS April 15 2013 19: 51 New
            +6
            Quote: Ascetic
            2. Prohibit Russian citizens from having citizenship of another state.

            What are the citizens of Russia guilty of before you ??? That they cannot have a second citizenship.
            Deny having a second citizenship to the OFFICIAL OF ALL RANS in the Public Service and after it for 20 years !!!
            That will be fair, and not like yours!
            1. Mikhail3
              Mikhail3 April 16 2013 18: 26 New
              0
              In a military conflict with the nesting of democracy, what can you do with double-citizens, do not tell? Are you guilty? But is it that when accepting American citizenship, the neophyte swears to forget all old and new obligations and faithfully serve exclusively the SGA? Actually, they, dear New Americans, are scared after such an oath to let people cross the border (and I don’t advise making friends. A traitor is always a traitor. He will betray you too).
        4. Tatarus
          Tatarus April 15 2013 10: 17 New
          +9
          Quote: Vladimirets
          I think we should take off our pants and show them the fifth point in its original, so to speak, form


          Sorry brother, of course, but it’s dangerous to show the fifth geeras. Danger to honor and conscience. I'd rather show the bolt. Suddenly the buzz will drop.
          1. Gari
            Gari April 15 2013 10: 53 New
            +4
            Quote: Tatarus
            Quote: Vladimirets
            I think we should take off our pants and show them the fifth point in its original, so to speak, form


            Sorry brother, of course, but it’s dangerous to show the fifth geeras. Danger to honor and conscience. I'd rather show the bolt. Suddenly the buzz will drop.


            It’s also dangerous, maybe even more buzz will appear in them
        5. anarh
          anarh April 15 2013 11: 28 New
          +3
          You can not.
          There is also a mass ... smile
        6. Cynic
          Cynic April 15 2013 17: 21 New
          +4
          Quote: Vladimirets
          we have to take off our pants and show them the fifth point

          DANGEROUSLY ! Highly !
        7. Batman
          Batman April 20 2013 00: 14 New
          0
          I think we should take off our pants and show them the fifth point in its original, so to speak, form, and then put on our pants and continue to do our business further

          we do not owe anything. :)
      2. Xtra1l
        Xtra1l April 15 2013 08: 19 New
        +4
        John Yu, a former adviser to the US Department of Justice, was planning to spend his vacation in Moscow, now he will have to change his plans, ironically The Daily Beast. The official, who once approved the use of “tough interrogations” against captured Al Qaeda militants, was on the list of 18 US citizens who are banned from entering the Russian Federation.
        http://inotv.rt.com/2013-04-14/Eks-chinovnik-SSHA-Ne-vidat-mne
      3. ziqzaq
        ziqzaq April 15 2013 09: 09 New
        +6
        Quote: esaul
        It’s all the same that the gopnik begins to teach the botan to speak politely with people.

        Like it or not, but this scribble (Magnitsky’s law) is all the same to Russia's advantage. And it shows the essence of the Amerov’s shit democracy, thereby disarming the Russian healers of America, and gives rise to counter measures, and makes everyone else think .......
      4. ultra
        ultra April 15 2013 10: 32 New
        +1
        Quote: esaul
        они "возмутились" ответным российским законом и по старой привычке принялись объяснять нам, неразумным, что мы должны были сделать
        The dog barks and the caravan goes! hi
      5. Backbone
        Backbone April 15 2013 11: 31 New
        +2
        В воскресенье, в передаче "Воскресный вечер" В.Соловьева наш адвокат Резник с такой ярой силой доказывал, что полосатики сделали для России доброе дело, глаза нам открыли... Ну почему у нас наверху крутятся "настоящие пэтриоты", считающие, что Россия должна слушать всех и поступать не как мы видим свой путь, а по указиловке из-за бугра?
    2. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov April 15 2013 07: 53 New
      15
      I agree, the published list is not complete. I do not see in the list of the king of the Review of the day Dude laughing
      Who really is cold in our country from these lists? There is nothing for the cat to do; he licks the eggs; Obama apparently does the same.
      1. Vanek
        Vanek April 15 2013 07: 56 New
        +8
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Cat has nothing to do


        The cat licks them not because he has nothing to do. Hygiene. Yes Yes. But for Ob-ba, that's right.
        1. Vladimirets
          Vladimirets April 15 2013 08: 10 New
          +9
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          There is nothing for the cat to do; he licks the eggs; Obama apparently does the same.

          As Ivan correctly said
          Quote: Vanek
          The cat licks them not because he has nothing to do. Hygiene.

          But the United States is trying to lick strangers when its in shit, and this is a pathology.
          1. Vanek
            Vanek April 15 2013 08: 11 New
            +3
            Quote: Vladimirets
            and this is a pathology.


            And this is not in dispute.
          2. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov April 15 2013 08: 40 New
            +6
            Quote: Vladimirets
            And the US is still trying to lick strangers,

            This is because it doesn’t reach its own. Not for nothing that he stands behind a gay wall laughing
          3. Ghenxnumx
            Ghenxnumx April 15 2013 09: 38 New
            +2
            Quote: Vladimirets
            But the United States is trying to lick strangers when its in shit, and this is a pathology.

            This is not a pathology - this is a change of orientation laughing
      2. Rustiger
        Rustiger April 15 2013 08: 22 New
        +2
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        There is nothing for the cat to do; he licks the eggs; Obama apparently does the same.

        The cat licks them not because he has nothing to do. And not always, but only when well-fed or dirty. Obama mom or rush of contentment. or he somewhere (eggs) somewhere and somehow stained laughing

        А по поводу этой "писюльки" вчера всё сказали в передаче Соловьёвы. Вывод - новая холодная война началась.
        Can I sign up yourself? Which office should I go to?
        Or make your own list? Where to publish? How to name?
        Everything, work has been covered, I will think. . . recourse
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov April 15 2013 08: 43 New
          +2
          Quote: Rustiger
          Conclusion - a new cold war has begun.

          Yes, it didn’t end, there the media calmed down on command and now they lowered the leash and started off in a new way. One problem, they are now in the position of the USSR.
          Boomerang theory works once again hi
          1. Apollo
            Apollo April 15 2013 09: 03 New
            +3
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Boomerang theory works once again


            Russian response to the Magnitsky list

            1. Tatarus
              Tatarus April 15 2013 10: 24 New
              +2
              Sarai Obama will apologize and repent in a personal message. And promise that never again ...
          2. Rustiger
            Rustiger April 15 2013 09: 25 New
            +4
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Yes, it didn’t end, there the media calmed down on command and now they lowered the leash and started off in a new way.


            Она почти уже закончилась на смене тысячелетия. Оставался "контрольный". И всё, от СССР оставалось бы не 15 кусков, а 20,30, . . .Рррааазбира-а-й . . .
            Методология уничтожения народов, путем натравливания какой-либо сионоамериканской марионетки на "друзей свободы" в других странах, превосходно отработана.
            Сейчас мы на первом этапе. Формирование и подкуп "друзей свободы" в России и перманентная тотальная брехня в мировых СМИ о нарушении в России этих прав.
            Начинается второй этап - американские марионетки через обезбашенных "браудеров" переходит к прямым угрозам. Формируется силовая пятая колона - региональных исламистских группировок, усиливается подкуп и разложение государственной верхушки.
            The third stage - threats come from official American structures, a system of terrorist acts is unfolding in Russia, militant groups are being formed, and semi-legal intervention begins. further we have already seen and are seeing.

            Для России у сионофашизма могут быть и, скорее всего будет, сценарий управляемого и организованного "народного бунта" на почве обнищания и голода (с\х России уже уничтожено, и мощное ВПК ему ни как не в помощь, импорт продовольствия легко блокируется многими способами, санкциями подконтрольного ВТО и подобной херотенью, даже причиной "ущемления прав" боевиков).

            Кстати, вчера из дуроскопа просквозила фраза. Бывшие "наши" соотечественники проникли во все властные структуры во многих странах мира (национальность как правило у всех одна). Получили там влияние, не без помощи бабла, которое они умыкнули отсюда, на принятие законов, и уж оттуда плещут "благодарности" на прежнее м\ж.
            It is urgent either to remove them from there (why ???), or a glass of wondrous polonium. . .
            No other way . . .
            1. Ascetic
              Ascetic April 16 2013 00: 45 New
              +7
              Quote: Rustiger
              Кстати, вчера из дуроскопа просквозила фраза. Бывшие "наши" соотечественники проникли во все властные структуры во многих странах мира (национальность как правило у всех одна). Получили там влияние, не без помощи бабла, которое они умыкнули отсюда, на принятие законов, и уж оттуда плещут "благодарности" на прежнее м\ж.


              Something like that they affect

              1. Mikhail3
                Mikhail3 April 16 2013 18: 37 New
                0
                Please think about this. What is the difference between TV and the Internet? To reduce the time, I’ll tell you - television companies in the country are controlled by the government of the country. What about the internet? Think the same !! A man who senselessly swallows a fashionable cliche is defenseless ...
        2. Ascetic
          Ascetic April 15 2013 09: 26 New
          15
          Quote: Rustiger
          Or make your own list? Where to publish? How to name?


          You can make the following lists
          Список разжигателей гражданских войн и "цветных революций" в других странах
          - List of manipulative media and lying journalists
          - List of US puppet politicians
          - List of bankers, interest-bearing customers of world wars
          - A list of human rights defenders supporting terrorism and separatism in other countries and in their own.
          - A list of falsifiers of history and figures of pseudoscience.
          - The list of people of mass culture and show business introducing bydoculture and traditions of LGBT.

          As they say on any tricky list you can find a decent answer.
          1. Rustiger
            Rustiger April 15 2013 10: 19 New
            +2
            Quote: Ascetic
            You can make the following lists


            Так в математике есть термин "пересечение функций", в биологии "ареал обитания", в медицине "зона поражения", а в химии "скорость реакции". Слишком сложно завернул чота . . .
            Проще. Если это исполнить, то скорее всего будет называться "New-Holocaust" со всеми вытекающими последствиями . . . Сионистский визг перейдёт в гиперзвук и разрушит биосферу планеты. Ниизззя-а-а-аа . . .
          2. Tatarus
            Tatarus April 15 2013 10: 26 New
            +1
            Just one list. LIST OF CONTRACEPTIVES
      3. nickname 1 and 2
        nickname 1 and 2 April 15 2013 08: 24 New
        0
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Who really is cold in our country from these lists?


        But it’s unpleasant for me from any lists, etc.
        bulldogs!

        would like to live like this: Do you respect me? - and I tezh you!
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov April 15 2013 08: 45 New
          +6
          Quote: nick 1 and 2
          would like to live like this: Do you respect me? - and I tezh you!

          Yeah, I remember that when Bush called Putin a friend, and then it began on 08.08.08. There can be no respect and friendship with the United States and the West as a whole, it simply never was and never will be.
      4. Kaa
        Kaa April 15 2013 08: 34 New
        +3
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Who really is cold in our country from these lists?

        Alexander, good afternoon, better ask a question to whom it is warm from them:"«Список Магнитского» существенно расширился, и теперь включает ряд высокопоставленных чиновников - генпрокурора РФ Юрия Чайку, главу управления экономической безопасности ФСБ Виктора Воронина, председателя Следственного комитета России Александра Бастрыкина, главу Мосгорсуда Ольгу Егорову. Новый «черный список» передал в администрацию президента США один из авторов «закона Магнитского», американскийконгрессмен Джеймс Макговерн. In total there are 280 Russian officials (initially, in the fall of 2010, there were 60 persons involved) involved in the death of Hermitage Capital fund lawyer Sergei Magnitsky (see joint venture dossier). All of them are invited to ban entry and financial transactions in the United States. 280 people from the “list” are divided into four categories. These are citizens who: \
        - responsible for the detention, prosecution and death of Sergei Magnitsky;
        - At the level of the law, they assisted in his arrest, prosecution and death;
        - Received financial benefits from his arrest, persecution and death;
        - were involved in a criminal conspiracy disclosed by Sergei Magnitsky.
        It is possible that the final “list” will be even wider - several international non-profit organizations, in particular, Human Rights Watch and Amnesty International, have also submitted their options to the State Department. According to The Cable of the Foreign Policy publication, human rights activists are seeking sanctions against ex-Russian press minister Mikhail Lesin and the head of Chechnya Ramzan Kadyrov. ” OUR PARTICIPANTS FROM NCOs ARE PARTICULARLY RADY“- Extension of the“ list ”- the reaction of American lawmakers to inadequate inspections of NGOs that the Kremlin initiated in Russia, said Nikolai Petrov, a leading expert at the Carnegie Moscow Center. - At the same time, one must understand: the “list” was not originally a reaction to one, albeit terrible, event. It includes officials who, from the point of view of the American legislator, seriously violate human rights, and need not be directly related to the death of Sergei Magnitsky. This is humiliating for our elite. This click is not so much on Seagull and other high-ranking defendants in the “list”, but on Putin. It turns out that the executors of Vladimir Putin’s orders are subject to sanctions. This shows that Russia - in the eyes of the West - is not such a great country to stand on ceremony with it, that we are starting to look like Belarus. This is a very serious blow to Putin’s position - it was he who, in the opinion of the political elite, should ensure its immunity. But the topic is not closed, and the Kremlin only provokes American lawmakers. - The US executive understands that expanding the Magnitsky list will entail a chain reaction, - confirms and vice-president of the Center for Political Technologists Alexei Makarkin. - Perhaps the Russian authorities are already looking for answers - and this will further complicate bilateral relations. Meanwhile On a number of issues, Russia's opinion is significant for America. First of all, it is Afghanistan, from where the Americans want to calmly leave - so that immediately after the completion of the operation, the Taliban do not end up in Kabul. Therefore, the White House has a desire to reduce the value of the “list” - perhaps everything will be limited to the original version, which included officials of a low rank. Http://svpressa.ru/politic/article/66461/? Regnum = 1
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov April 15 2013 08: 48 New
          +6
          Quote: Kaa
          better ask who is warm from them

          Hi Kaa! So what??? let another 1000 names be entered, which will change request The USA goes its own way, and we go our own way. and thank god that we are going in different directions hi
          1. vadson
            vadson April 15 2013 09: 00 New
            +3
            Good afternoon, and I’ll whole-heartedly support this list and its expansion, ALL ALL OFFICIALS AND MAJOR ENTREPRENEURS WILL BE SUBMITTED TO IT ALL WEST, they themselves will build a new iron curtain and will go to us only to let them go to the market
          2. sibircat
            sibircat April 15 2013 14: 30 New
            0
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            let another 1000 names be entered, which will change

            Magnitsky’s list (Cardin’s list), as well as the events in Cyprus, a direct threat to the Russian business establishment, a message, if you like:
            - Either you continue to work effectively and faithfully in the interests of the US Federal Reserve, or ask for your property in the states and savings in banks (and in any banks controlled by the Fed).
            - And it will depend on your loyalty to US policy whether we include you on this list or not.
            An adequate Russian response cannot be called, since USA citizens in Russia simply do not have savings and real estate.
            Hitting the NGOs can be considered a kind of response to the West about the Kremlin’s reluctance to submit to tactless attacks, but from the outside, these actions do not look very convincing.
            Судя по всему многие наши "рукамиводящие", всерьез задумались над дилемой:
            - And where am I, and how to continue to live?
            Hence, all the racket and clutter in the media.
          3. NOBODY EXCEPT US
            NOBODY EXCEPT US April 15 2013 21: 31 New
            0
            And what about the villa of unicorn Pekhtin in Miami ??? After leaving the State Duma, he is now on the board of directors of RusHydro ......
      5. Ribwort
        Ribwort April 15 2013 09: 36 New
        +3
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Who really is cold in our country from these lists?

        Yes ... Americans have disappointed. I read the title of the topic and, carnivorously licked, began to get acquainted with the list, hoping to see in it the names of Russian oligarchs, officials and deputies of the State Duma in full ... fool So what??? There are none of them !!! Here, what a vile nation!
    3. wax
      wax April 15 2013 21: 18 New
      0
      I wonder where the Americans will run when half of America is flooded by rising sea levels. Europe and Japan will be flooded too. Probably to Africa.
      1. Ilya Kovalenko
        Ilya Kovalenko April 16 2013 00: 35 New
        0
        They’ll crawl on our lap, and we’ll think about letting them with green toilet paper (in dollars) or not. laughing.
    4. Nevsky
      Nevsky April 15 2013 21: 22 New
      +1
      The whole alignment of our elite is 3a 20 minutes, the whole point:

      From 1:35:28 ..... Enjoy your viewing good

    5. YuDDP
      YuDDP April 15 2013 22: 53 New
      +2
      Three page reviews. Is it interesting that at least one of the respondents read about the essence of the matter? And why was Magnitsky planted at all?
      Indeed, in fact, Magnitsky even then lit up the tax authorities with Serdyukov, who is rightly disliked here.

      Quote from everyone's favorite Wikipedia:
      "Журналисты «Новой газеты» предположили, что бенефициаром хищения из бюджета 5,4 млрд рублей являлся Анатолий Сердюков, бывший министр обороны, руководивший ФНС с 2004-го по 2007 год. Позднее «Новая газета» опубликовала материал, согласно которому по тем же самым схемам, которые разоблачил Сергей Магнитский, те же самые люди с 2009 по 2010 год вывели из бюджета ещё более 11 млрд рублей."

      What to discuss stupid American law. This is not about him, but about us, about our country, unfortunately ...
    6. radio operator
      radio operator April 16 2013 08: 53 New
      0
      People!
      How do I get on the Magnitsky list ?!
      Who should I apply for? Browder or Cardin?
      By the way, Cardin, Judas, with Russian roots senator.
    7. KuigoroZHIK
      KuigoroZHIK April 18 2013 03: 28 New
      0
      По поводу "Билла имени Магнитского" очень грамотно рассказывает Евгений Федоров. Для чего этот документ принимался и какие конкретно цели преследовали овские законодатели.
  2. Vanek
    Vanek April 15 2013 07: 35 New
    +6
    (in the United States, Magnitsky’s list is often referred to as Cardin’s since the authorities cannot explain to ordinary Americans who this Magnitsky is, and why in the USA it was this surname that provoked an urgent need to recall human rights in Russia, forgetting about the rights of ordinary Americans themselves).

    Comments? I do not have them.

    laughing laughing laughing
  3. ars_pro
    ars_pro April 15 2013 07: 36 New
    +2
    The SGA has a mania of eternity for mine, who needs them and who else will go to them
  4. Apollo
    Apollo April 15 2013 07: 41 New
    +4
    quote-So, the “Magnitsky list” in front of you:

    this is not a complete list


    Закрытый "список Магнитского" в два раза короче основного

    США подтвердили наличие секретной части "списка Магнитского". Об этом изданию "Коммерсантъ" сообщил источник, близкий к администрации Соединенных Штатов.
    "Администрация имеет право засекретить имена некоторых фигурантов "по соображениям национальной безопасности" — против них не будут вводиться финансовые санкции, а только запрет на въезд в США", - объяснил изданию источник в Вашингтоне.
    При этом собеседник "Коммерсанта" отказался назвать, кто из российских чиновников упомянут в этом документе, сообщив лишь, что "закрытый список в два раза короче основного".
    При этом в Белом доме признают , что публикация "списка Магнитского" может осложнить отношения с РФ, причем уже в ближайшей перспективе.

    Read more: http://top.rbc.ru/politics/15/04/2013/853859.shtml

    it means 9 people. In the internet there was infa that one of them was Ramzan Kadyrov. So the United States did not publish the entire list suggests that they are still afraid ..... laughing Naturally Russia.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov April 15 2013 07: 58 New
      +2
      Quote: Apollon
      means 9 people. On the Internet there was infa that one of them Ramzan Kadyrov

      Hi Apollo! Kadyrov doesn't give a damn about the list or the amers. The longer the list is, the better it will be for us, we’ll add half of the USA there and that’s it.
      this list shows that the United States has no instruments against Russia, not at all. NPOs consume money, there is no sense in them. In the international arena, gentlemen from Washington are also losing. Here is the only tool invented in the form of lists, but in fact it is a dummy- 0 hi
      1. Apollo
        Apollo April 15 2013 08: 16 New
        +1
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        this list shows that the US has no instruments against Russia



        Greetings Alexander hi list of magnetic = political impotence laughing
        1. sergeschern
          sergeschern April 21 2013 01: 26 New
          0
          Here it is the main argument of the states. For reference: DeGol once scratched French money from Amers, but the Germans still can not! [Media = http: //stalinpravda.narod.ru/fan840.html]
      2. Atlon
        Atlon April 15 2013 08: 59 New
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        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Here is the only tool invented in the form of lists, but in fact it is a dummy-

        Предлагаю провести опрос среди населения России (ну или хотя бы на нашем сайте), по поводу желающих быть включёнными в "список Магницкого". По итогам опроса создать список желающих, и отправить список в США с просьбой включить всех желающих в открытую часть списка. Мы с женой будем пенрвыми!

        Addition to the list of Magnitsky

        1. Khmelnitsky Pavel Borisovich
        2. Khmelnitsky Natalia Nikolaevna
        3. .......
        4. .......

        Join now!
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov April 15 2013 09: 04 New
          +5
          Quote: Atlon
          Join now!

          Is it possible to condense the whole quarter at once?laughing
          1. Atlon
            Atlon April 15 2013 09: 38 New
            0
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Is it possible to condense the whole quarter at once?

            Go ahead! Only surname. ;)
            1. Rustiger
              Rustiger April 15 2013 10: 41 New
              +3
              Quote: Atlon
              Surname only

              Semenov Vadim Gennadevich,
              Semenova Lyudmila Aleksandrovna
              Semenov Arkady and Arseniy Vadimovichi
              . . . . . .
              One cousin in the Chicago region (was with her in 06g.),
              another somewhere in the Californian - these back to their homeland. . .
    2. Danafxnumx
      Danafxnumx April 15 2013 13: 50 New
      0
      have not yet come up wink
  5. Explore
    Explore April 15 2013 07: 42 New
    +6
    Hysteria for what reason? The Americans got some kind of stupidity, and we cry for nothing. They want a new Cold War - please, we do not mind.
    But in the presidency, I would have long banned bills and bureaucratic real estate abroad. And they don’t need to ride a hill over our money. Like you banned - thanks, but we will do it ourselves. A good answer would be.
    1. Atlon
      Atlon April 15 2013 09: 39 New
      +5
      Quote: Explorar
      Hysteria for what reason? The Americans got some kind of stupidity, and we cry for nothing.

      But where did you see the hysteria? And who is crying here? So, we stand for what in vain, yes! What else to do? It only remains to make fun of the wretched ... laughing
    2. Danafxnumx
      Danafxnumx April 15 2013 13: 53 New
      +1
      so it is ...
      banned already ...
  6. domokl
    domokl April 15 2013 07: 46 New
    +9
    The fact that the Americans screwed up once again is already visible to everyone ... Yes, and Putin’s reaction was not calculated ... It seemed that Western politicians were still living under the EBN. When they shouted at every corner about independence and nuclear weapons, but they did just what they said from Washington ...
    Now it will be interesting how they will get out ... It is clear that Russia will give a tougher answer .. And what? Let's stop going to each other? So right Alex wrote -99% of Russians in the coming years will not go to the USA again, as they did not go before ...
  7. domokl
    domokl April 15 2013 07: 46 New
    0
    The fact that the Americans screwed up once again is already visible to everyone ... Yes, and Putin’s reaction was not calculated ... It seemed that Western politicians were still living under the EBN. When they shouted at every corner about independence and nuclear weapons, but they did just what they said from Washington ...
    Now it will be interesting how they will get out ... It is clear that Russia will give a tougher answer .. And what? Let's stop going to each other? So right Alex wrote -99% of Russians in the coming years will not go to the USA again, as they did not go before ...
  8. Ragnarek
    Ragnarek April 15 2013 07: 58 New
    0
    for some reason I think that most of the list was unlikely to have accounts in the usa.
  9. Ragnarek
    Ragnarek April 15 2013 07: 58 New
    0
    for some reason I think that most of the list was unlikely to have accounts in the usa.
  10. djon3volta
    djon3volta April 15 2013 08: 01 New
    +9
    it won’t bother me if the United States doesn’t let any of us come to me, this America has surrendered to me. It hurts me that it’s climbing to us with instructions. Did they solve all their problems better than everyone else? they can’t yell at the world, and it’s not just a log that they themselves can’t make out a whole logging site?
  11. Mikhail Topor
    Mikhail Topor April 15 2013 08: 15 New
    +4
    With such lists, you’ll really be comfortable with the iron curtain. Iron Curtain 2.0. American option fellow
    1. Atlon
      Atlon April 15 2013 09: 08 New
      +9
      Quote: Mikhail Topor
      With such lists, you’ll really be comfortable with the iron curtain. Iron Curtain 2.0. American option

      Я за! Я бы только на их список, ответил списком ЗАПРЕЩЁННЫХ товаров. В особенности "культурных". Ну там фильмов пропагандирующих жестокость, порнографию. Теле-шоу, мультфильмов пропагандирующих де-би-лизм. Признал бы "незаконнным" и несправедливым владение одной компанией прав на международную операционную систему Виндоус, и признал её мировым достоянием, с отверганием попыток получать за неё деньги. Впрочем, это и так уже де-факто существует. laughing Well, make out de jure! am
      What did I want to say with all this? But only one thing:
      Мы нужны Америке несоизмеримо больше, чем она нам! А что касается каких то частных интересов отдельных граждан, мне они до лампочки! "Храните деньги, в Сберегательной кассе!". А отдыхайте в России!
  12. StrateG
    StrateG April 15 2013 08: 15 New
    +2
    I did not see at least some significant personalities in the list. What does it mean? That, as mentioned above, the United States does not have leverage over Russia. I understand that if they forbade entry, say to a large official like Rogozin or Shoigu. But the names listed are something like ordinary citizens. As for Ramzan, how he did not go to America will not go any further.
  13. JonnyT
    JonnyT April 15 2013 08: 24 New
    +1
    This is a failure of American intelligence and propaganda!))))
  14. vladsolo56
    vladsolo56 April 15 2013 08: 25 New
    +4
    I am a simple citizen of Russia and I really don’t give a damn about Magnitsky’s list, but there is one good for him for Russia, you can immediately see who he’s hurt and who has an interest in America. It is a pity only, those who are not on the list (those who diligently train the State Department) calmly use real estate and accounts in the United States. It is worth introducing, as opposed to a list of all corrupt officials who have accounts and real estate in the USA, and making them travel abroad, such an answer would be very significant and tangible.
    1. Danafxnumx
      Danafxnumx April 15 2013 14: 03 New
      0
      the majority of corrupt officials have accounts not in the usa, but in offshore companies in cyprus, seychelles, and southeast asia ...
      1. vladsolo56
        vladsolo56 April 15 2013 14: 07 New
        0
        and so I propose to make them non-visiting, not only in the USA, the trick is that there seems to be money and real estate, but you cannot leave and use it.
  15. GOLUBENKO
    GOLUBENKO April 15 2013 08: 28 New
    +4
    People in Russia are on this list.
  16. shinobi
    shinobi April 15 2013 08: 30 New
    +1
    The trick of this law is that America and those who further adhere to this law can freeze (read, take away) money without bothering with the legitimacy of anyone’s actions. It’s enough to accuse him of violating human rights and put it on the list. In essence, this law will be a very effective means economic blackmail of anyone who has money in foreign banks in general and America in particular. You can simply be robbed at any time convenient for them. And not just a Russian.
    ZTs: I would like to be mistaken, but it seems that the fourth world has begun.
    1. Atlon
      Atlon April 15 2013 09: 16 New
      +2
      Quote: shinobi
      You can simply be robbed at any moment convenient for them. And not only the Russian.

      So keep money at home! This is in our favor.

      Quote: shinobi
      ZTs: I would like to be mistaken, but it seems that the fourth world has begun.

      Indeed?! belay And when was the third? Have I really missed ??? request
    2. Kaa
      Kaa April 15 2013 09: 40 New
      +1
      Quote: shinobi
      they can freeze (read, take away) money without bothering with the legality of actions of any

      Абсолютно в точку!!!! Учитывая количество предприятий (и немаленьких)негосударственной формы собственности, достаточно внести в список хозяина,и...плакали российские миллиарды,вот в чем подлость списка...Рабочие бастуют без зарплаты, градообразующие предприятия закрываются - миллионы "протестного контингента" выходят на улицы с "булыжником - оружием пролетариата",вот в чем иезуитство этого "закона"!
      1. Danafxnumx
        Danafxnumx April 15 2013 14: 05 New
        0
        and where did you get the idea that this money is in us banks?
        it is extremely short-sighted ...
  17. fenix57
    fenix57 April 15 2013 08: 38 New
    0
    Quote: esaul
    From today's Internet - the USA passed a law prohibiting walking down the street with his pants down.

    Valery, good health. hi Днями ранее отключив антирекламу наблюдаю призыв(не дословно):"сбылась мечта граждан России- уехать в США". Но список магнитского не прилагался.
    А что перечисленные в онном списке собирались к амерам,?. Нечем амерам "крыть нашу карту"... hi
  18. vadson
    vadson April 15 2013 08: 45 New
    +6
    maduro won, cheers, another cookie amer!
    1. Ulysses
      Ulysses April 15 2013 09: 40 New
      +4
      И венесуэльская "демократическая оппозиция" по старой отработанной схеме начала скулёж про подтасовки и махинации. sad
  19. navy33
    navy33 April 15 2013 08: 51 New
    +3
    I greet everyone. The cameras on this list remind me of a small mongrel that darts from the corner, but can’t do anything.
  20. Apollo
    Apollo April 15 2013 09: 00 New
    +2
    Pushkov: Obama has become hostage to the Magnitsky list
  21. max-02215
    max-02215 April 15 2013 09: 02 New
    0
    In general, b, it would be necessary to add all our oligarchs to this list, then bish billionaires, governors with all the bureaucratic brotherhood, most, and most likely the entire deputy corps, well, here the list will be large, you can not ban the entry, but block accounts. You’ll look and steal less, maybe they’ll do it for their homeland, because for the main part of the population, the homeland is where he grew up and was born, and not where the money is. Yes, for the sake of such a thing, you can cancel your list
  22. max-02215
    max-02215 April 15 2013 09: 02 New
    0
    In general, b, it would be necessary to add all our oligarchs to this list, then bish billionaires, governors with all the bureaucratic brotherhood, most, and most likely the entire deputy corps, well, here the list will be large, you can not ban the entry, but block accounts. You’ll look and steal less, maybe they’ll do it for their homeland, because for the main part of the population, the homeland is where he grew up and was born, and not where the money is. Yes, for the sake of such a thing, you can cancel your list
  23. Corsair5912
    Corsair5912 April 15 2013 09: 07 New
    0
    Russian citizens can strike back, transfer their money from American banks to banks of other countries and exchange dollars for other currencies, which is about 500 billion dollars. After such an act, the dollar will cost less than toilet paper.
    Saddam was killed because he exchanged 10 billion dollars for euros, trying to get out of Yusovtsy’s rule.
  24. Corsair5912
    Corsair5912 April 15 2013 09: 07 New
    +2
    Russian citizens can strike back, transfer their money from American banks to banks of other countries and exchange dollars for other currencies, which is about 500 billion dollars. After such an act, the dollar will cost less than toilet paper.
    Saddam was killed because he exchanged 10 billion dollars for euros, trying to get out of Yusovtsy’s rule.
    1. Egoza
      Egoza April 15 2013 10: 32 New
      0
      Quote: Corsair5912
      Russian citizens can strike back, transfer their money from American banks to banks of other countries and exchange dollars for other currencies, which is about 500 billion dollars.

      Давно пора это сделать. Но ведь США могут сказать Европе "фас" и там тоже будут блокировать счета. Хотя тут амеры могут и просчитаться. Европа будет думать о своем бизнесе и "не послушается". А вот интересно - есть ли у иностранцев (американцев)счета в России? Кто, в случае "решительных мер США" помешает их здесь "оприходовать" на манер США? laughing
      1. Corsair5912
        Corsair5912 April 15 2013 11: 18 New
        -1
        In Europe, most banks are private, they do not even submit to their government, not like the Yusovites. If they consider that it is profitable, they will gladly accept deposits and exchange dollars. Besides Europe, there are also Asia and Africa, where there are banks too.
        In Russian banks there are deposits of foreigners, including Americans, I don’t know how much, but I think that there are fewer than Russian deposits in foreign banks.
    2. gas
      gas April 15 2013 11: 23 New
      +1
      Вот вот-к разговору о патриотизме! Я не пойму к чему столько шуму и внимания к тому то американцы запретили въезжать десятку россиян, это их страна, хотят разрешают, хотят запрещают, важно как раз то кто из "наших" "сограждан" вложил по Вашим словам, пол триллиона долларов! Почему на этом форуме не коробит ЭТОТ факт! Амеры гадят нам, а мы финансируем их экономику! Откуда взялись эти деньги? С распродажи ресурсов? Почему в нашей стране всех беспокоит очередной идиотский закон США и не беспокоит что кто-то в ОГРОМНЫХ МАСШТАБАХ СЛИВАЕТ ТАКИЕ ДЕНЬГИ!!!
  25. Standard Oil
    Standard Oil April 15 2013 09: 11 New
    0
    Какие же американцы заботливые, я бы даже сказал самая "озабоченная" нация, спать не могут а все думают о правах человека в России, причем не все даже на карте не то что Россию и свою страну на карте не найдут, и зачем вообщее на это внимание обращать? все равно дальше пустых разговоров и писка некоторых неадекватных лиц дело не пойдет.
  26. LaGlobal
    LaGlobal April 15 2013 09: 20 New
    +1
    Это новая(!) "Холодная война", которая развивается как фарс! Зачем нужно российским чиновникам ехать в штаты - думаю, можно догадаться? А вот, захотят ли сша-асты прятать свои сбережения в сбере?

    I think nothing good in the litter of time is all over. A dumb reboot gave nothing to anyone.
    1. Ulysses
      Ulysses April 15 2013 09: 50 New
      +3
      Злые языки утверждают, что на известной кнопке было написано не "перезагрузка". wassat
  27. LaGlobal
    LaGlobal April 15 2013 09: 20 New
    +1
    Это новая(!) "Холодная война", которая развивается как фарс! Зачем нужно российским чиновникам ехать в штаты - думаю, можно догадаться? А вот, захотят ли сша-асты прятать свои сбережения в сбере?

    I think nothing good in the litter of time is all over. A dumb reboot gave nothing to anyone.
  28. Andrey from Tver
    Andrey from Tver April 15 2013 09: 25 New
    +5
    I did not see Gorbachev with Chubais, the family of Yeltsin, Serdyukov, etc. on the list. Hm? Why are the opinions of the vast majority of the Russian population not taken into account when compiling the lists?
    1. sibircat
      sibircat April 15 2013 14: 39 New
      0
      What do you fools, in your opinion, to list their lackeys in the lists, they usually give out Nobel prizes like that.
  29. stroporez
    stroporez April 15 2013 09: 31 New
    +2
    вождям этот список --"по барабану".и трындят они больше так, типо отреагировали........никто никаких мер против США не предпринимает.я говорю о действительно реальных мерах....... такое ощущение что мы здесь обсуждаем ---"что-то ни о чем"
  30. Standard Oil
    Standard Oil April 15 2013 09: 31 New
    0
    Quote: Navy33
    I greet everyone. The cameras on this list remind me of a small mongrel that darts from the corner, but can’t do anything.


    That's right, the Americans are not the same. yes
  31. Ulysses
    Ulysses April 15 2013 09: 32 New
    +2
    Quote: shinobi
    The trick of this law is that America and those who further adhere to this law can freeze (read, take away) money without bothering with the legitimacy of anyone’s actions. It’s enough to accuse him of violating human rights and put it on the list. In essence, this law will be a very effective means economic blackmail of anyone who has money in foreign banks in general and America in particular. You can simply be robbed at any time convenient for them. And not just a Russian.


    Citizens, keep money in a savings bank ........ Russia.

    In general, Cyprus has shown that your denyushki in foreign banks are not immune from their problems. belay
    1. Corsair5912
      Corsair5912 April 15 2013 11: 31 New
      0
      The most reliable way to keep savings is a glass jar with gold in a cache. Do not steal and do not depreciate
      And to store savings in foreign currency, in foreign banks, the same as at the station to ask a stranger to look after a bag of money.
      A stranger, or a bag, or money, or all together, may disappear.
  32. Averias
    Averias April 15 2013 09: 47 New
    +4
    Это блин как в анекдоте - "Группа "Яранга - чум" распалась, Все рыдают". Други, скажите честно положа руку на сердце - кто из Вас расстроился?
    А еже ли сурьезно, США конечно "попутали", своими указивками кому как жить, и что такое "хорошо" и сто такое "плохо" - берегов не видят. "Исключительность" и "кристальная честность" США - набила оскомину и стали притчей во языцех. Паранойя одним словом, маразм крепчает.
  33. Canep
    Canep April 15 2013 10: 02 New
    +1
    In my opinion, American senators seriously think that the entire population of Russia dreams of leaving for permanent residence in the United States, but the Russians have very little money (for moving) and therefore people are forced to live in Russia. They believe that American culture is the only culture on the planet, and the rest is government propaganda. They sacredly believe that they impose themselves on their own propaganda. They have no thoughts of their own. It doesn’t even occur to them that people in Russia want to live in Russia, and since they live in Russia (by the way, I won’t be surprised if these senators do not know where Russia is located at all). Only this state of affairs can explain the appearance of this document (Magnitsky list).
  34. Canep
    Canep April 15 2013 10: 02 New
    0
    In my opinion, American senators seriously think that the entire population of Russia dreams of leaving for permanent residence in the United States, but the Russians have very little money (for moving) and therefore people are forced to live in Russia. They believe that American culture is the only culture on the planet, and the rest is government propaganda. They sacredly believe that they impose themselves on their own propaganda. They have no thoughts of their own. It doesn’t even occur to them that people in Russia want to live in Russia, and since they live in Russia (by the way, I won’t be surprised if these senators do not know where Russia is located at all). Only this state of affairs can explain the appearance of this document (Magnitsky list).
  35. Vrungel78
    Vrungel78 April 15 2013 10: 11 New
    +5
    Как говорил мой командир роты (царствие ему небесное): "Я доволен, когда на заборе вижу "Бодров -... ", это значит, что я работаю". По аналогии заявляю, что Россия тоже работает на мировом поле деятельности, поэтому америкашки и пытаются сыпать гадости на наши головы, придумывая поводы, нелепее предыдущих. А страны, которые, мягко говоря, не имеют веса в мировом сообществе, даже и не заслуживают упоминания о них в устах америкосов. К примеру, Монголия, Вьетнам и т.д. А начальнику ИФНС № 25 ехало-болело, что ее в США не пустят. На что там смотреть? И что может быть краше Владивостока и пляжей Приморья?
  36. vkusniikorj
    vkusniikorj April 15 2013 10: 13 New
    -1
    now kill me, I don’t understand what the local people got excited about?
    Я понимаю Штаты,показали нам ков из за которых в тюрьме погиб ЧЕЛОВЕК!и других ков, которые ничего не предприняли,что бы в дальнейшем избежать этого.некоторые тут же готовы добавить в этот список кучу кандидатов и огребают плюсы на ровном месте.Вы определитесь господа-товарищи,чего хотите? или давайте все вместе начнём добавлять в список "магницкого",или в список тех, кто защищая "магницких"готов лечь на амбразуру!
    1. Rustiger
      Rustiger April 15 2013 10: 59 New
      +1
      Quote: vkusniikorj
      now kill me, I don’t understand what the local people got excited about?


      Well what are you! On the contrary, everyone is extremely calm, collected. No panic and no erection.
      Даже настроение несколько праздничное (Мадуро победил!). Все солидно одеваются, отпрашиваются на работе, с документами подходят к Амеровскому посольству (как "магнитским" тянет), записываются.

      Повторяем за тов. Дыниным - "Мы бодры, веселы. . ."(с)
  37. vkusniikorj
    vkusniikorj April 15 2013 10: 13 New
    0
    now kill me, I don’t understand what the local people got excited about?
    Я понимаю Штаты,показали нам ков из за которых в тюрьме погиб ЧЕЛОВЕК!и других ков, которые ничего не предприняли,что бы в дальнейшем избежать этого.некоторые тут же готовы добавить в этот список кучу кандидатов и огребают плюсы на ровном месте.Вы определитесь господа-товарищи,чего хотите? или давайте все вместе начнём добавлять в список "магницкого",или в список тех, кто защищая "магницких"готов лечь на амбразуру!
    1. lewerlin53rus
      lewerlin53rus April 15 2013 10: 43 New
      0
      Quote: vkusniikorj
      man died in prison

      And who is to blame for the fact that in the prison glued fins pampered servant overseas swindler? Maybe the owners themselves tidied it up, because they knew the excess and howl raised so that they would not have thought. Or just a heart could not resist the fear of prison.
      1. vkusniikorj
        vkusniikorj April 15 2013 12: 06 New
        -1
        I absolutely ... who was magnetic!
        одновременно с ним, до, и после него, в российских тюрьмах, гибли ,гибнут и по видимому здесь ажиотажу, будут гибнуть ЛЮДИ! и НИКТО не понесёт никакой ответственности!!!видите ли "их ампиратор нашему показал фигу"Умрём за царя"!!!
  38. artist-mamluk
    artist-mamluk April 15 2013 10: 28 New
    +1
    1. I have a picture that it’s from our handout this stupid list, so that high-ranking bribe takers would not be shed to amers and money would not be transferred there.
    2. I agree, it will only wipe me off with this list, I put it on him and on the care of the amers about my life.
    3. Well, if we talk about the reciprocal list. The list must include those who do not respect their own people and everyone infringes on their rights, the FBI, the Pentagon, the State Department, the entire Amer government and those who clap their hands in their hands.
    4. As the classic said, - WELL DULL.
    1. vkusniikorj
      vkusniikorj April 15 2013 12: 11 New
      -2
      that is, our rights are respected in our country, people respect the authorities, and who, as the classic says, is dumb?
      1. artist-mamluk
        artist-mamluk April 15 2013 14: 03 New
        +2
        That's right, vkusniikorj, but we don’t shout to the whole Ivanovskaya that the USA is a bad side and sanctions must be imposed against it, this is their business how to live, the business of the Americans themselves. I just want to say that you don’t have to poke your nose where you should not.
  39. Black
    Black April 15 2013 10: 28 New
    +2
    "...обижаете лордов нам!?-
    Мы вам тоже написаем в щи!!"
    Не надо на хамство отвечать по детски, типа "списком Д.Яковлева"
    1. Withdraw assets and deposits from a country of ever-green democracy
    2. Kissing is not childish with the Chinese
    3. Prohibit travel abroad for anyone in power
    4. Pursue a truly independent policy (for example, take yes and help Syria, or spit on resolutions, and establish trade and economic cooperation with the DPRK, deliver S-300 to Iran, etc.
    1. stroporez
      stroporez April 15 2013 16: 19 New
      +1
      полностью поддерживаю Ваш план.но никак не могу его представить.это кто же и как заставит нашу очную "элиту" вывести бабосы из
      Quote: Chen
      countries of everlasting democracy
      и
      Quote: Chen
      Prohibit travel abroad to anyone in power

      ???????? или я пессимист конченый, или тупой, но не вижу инструментов, и ,ГЛАВНОЕ,ВОЛИ "вождей" для реализации этих пунктов....................
  40. NKVD
    NKVD April 15 2013 10: 32 New
    +3
    Yes, we don’t give a damn about their list. Why don’t they have them, or have no place to go on vacation? I would voluntarily enroll in this list. Do not hell with them. And their democracy is filthy and women are fat and not beautiful and singular and singular what do they do if these freaks are in trillion debt
    1. Egoza
      Egoza April 15 2013 10: 41 New
      +2
      Quote: NKVD
      And their democracy is rotten and women are fat and not beautiful and vodara is singed

      Уточняю. Как сказал один выдающийся (без шуток) педагог современности, побывав в США: "Колбасы много, но не вкусная, искусственная, бабы все некрасивые, а дети все неумные люди. Наши дети, признанные дебильными, гораздо лучше, умнее"! laughing
      1. stalkerwalker
        stalkerwalker April 15 2013 18: 34 New
        +4
        Quote: Egoza
        women are all ugly

        That's for sure!
        To the waist from above - almost the norm.
        Below - oversize in 2 times! And drag shorts!
        Я когда увидал, сразу вспомнил наших славянок: и стройны, и зацеловать могут, и "в репу" про случаю "съездят"...
        laughing
  41. Selevc
    Selevc April 15 2013 10: 39 New
    +2
    These people (according to the letter of the law adopted in the USA) will not be able to enter the territory of the United States, and their accounts in American banks (if any) will be frozen.


    You can ask a simple question !!! A nafik they go there? And what judges do foreign business accounts have? Do they have salaries in the millions or are they doing business in addition to their work? It seems that they talked a lot about the separation of the judiciary from business ...

    In general, all this noise was made by those hereditary marginals who live and always live by theft only formally covered by laws ...
    1. RUSmen
      RUSmen April 15 2013 10: 53 New
      +2
      In kind, but ours do, is it the United States?
  42. Bezarius
    Bezarius April 15 2013 10: 56 New
    +2
    Боюсь это лишь первый шаг для создания "законного" способа отъема активов граждан других стран, под видом защиты прав человека и демократии.

    PS: do not think, I'm not going to defend the defendants in this case
    1. stalkerwalker
      stalkerwalker April 15 2013 18: 37 New
      +3
      Quote: Bezarius
      Боюсь это лишь первый шаг для создания "законного" способа отъема активов граждан других стра

      II, naturlyh!
      Give Cyprus in the American world!
      wassat
  43. nod739
    nod739 April 15 2013 11: 01 New
    +1
    a lot of noise
    if someone doesn’t want to let someone in - they just don’t get a VISA !!!
    and if someone wants to blame something, then they let him in, and already on their territory they take him for a tender udder
  44. kNow
    kNow April 15 2013 11: 13 New
    +3
    I liked Ramzan Kadyrov’s answer to this list - the horse suffers from him, didn’t sleep at night, her rights are violated :) I thought it was a sinful thing about Ksenia Sobchak, it turned out, the horse with the violated rights is real :)
    1. redwar6
      redwar6 April 15 2013 12: 06 New
      0
      http://youtu.be/06E-4inQUSA?t=5m
      Correctly said Ramzan, I even respected part of him.
    2. djon3volta
      djon3volta April 15 2013 13: 55 New
      +1
      that's what he wrote about this on Twitter, he just did a screen. Is it interesting that there is a train from our station to the USA? Or do I need to change trains? )))
      1. Thunderbolt
        Thunderbolt April 15 2013 14: 07 New
        +6
        Quote: djon3volta
        Interestingly, from our station there is a train to the United States?
        Previously, the BZHRK walked with current through the air.
  45. Landwarrior
    Landwarrior April 15 2013 11: 35 New
    0
    And what do the Yankees expect from the defendants in the list? Public repentance and dusting the head with ashes? Frankly, I expected more, something more global, or something ... and here are a couple of small bosses with a retinue and another five heels of not very significant people ... In short, I am disappointed negative There is no sense in this scribble
  46. Alikovo
    Alikovo April 15 2013 13: 22 New
    +1
    Yes, these people have no accounts in America on the list.
  47. xmel2003
    xmel2003 April 15 2013 13: 33 New
    0
    Я, честно говоря, не понимаю почему к этому американскому законодательному акту у посетителей сайта такое отрицательное отношение. Наоборот нужно не просто приветствовать такие своевременные инициативы американцев, но и, как говорится "расширить и углубить" - принять его государственной думой включив в него всех госслужащих и сотрудников НКО.
  48. Severin
    Severin April 15 2013 13: 35 New
    0
    People, I may not help HELP, I can open articles only by clicking on the comments, if I’ve been throwing them to the site of the tanks for three days already, I don’t know what kind of bug!
    1. xmel2003
      xmel2003 April 15 2013 13: 44 New
      0
      clean cookies
    2. krez-74
      krez-74 April 15 2013 16: 48 New
      0
      Go to the search engine through which you enter the VO and clear the search history, the upper right corner of the search engine-settings-ctrl + H-clear history.
  49. Severin
    Severin April 15 2013 13: 50 New
    0
    Oh, thanks, it helped!
  50. myfutureamerica. org
    myfutureamerica. org April 15 2013 14: 59 New
    0
    Everything is correctly written in the article. Get rid of the Syrdikovs, develop the country on your own, hold the defense, do not rely on anyone, love your country, steal one another, and keep in mind: Peace is not yet secured! June 22nd 41st not far off!
    Do not demand the best products from the backward Russian economy tomorrow. Give time to develop, otherwise you will become dependent on the West. Better on your Lada than on an imported Ford. Demand for resources not only money, but also technology !!!
    Without technology, no energy. In general, Putin is good, but most of the people do not understand how close the danger is if you do not overdo technological backwardness.
    Take an example and ask from Israel, this is the only Western country that appreciates and understands Russian culture, root anti-simitism and racism! Hi from the USA, keep in mind that Americans are influenced by their very one-sided media and are poorly informed: The most oppressed slave is the one who thinks he is free.