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Kiev Armored Repair Plant will manufacture Dozor-B armored personnel carriers

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The Kiev Armored Repair Plant will soon begin production of the Dozor-B light armored vehicle. This armored personnel carrier was developed in Kharkov by specialists from the A. Morozov Kharkiv Design Bureau of Mechanical Engineering.

The new armored special purpose vehicle was created as a vehicle for both military and civilian use. For civilian needs, an SUV called “Dozor-A” was created, and for the military - “Dozor-B”.

The Dozor-B military armored vehicle is an armored vehicle having the wheel formula 4х4, and is designed to transport not only personnel, but also various types of cargo.



“Dozor-B” can be presented in several versions: as an armored car, armored personnel carrier, chemical and radiation reconnaissance vehicle, command vehicle, airborne assault vehicle, reconnaissance and patrol vehicle, self-propelled anti-tank missile system, general purpose vehicle and fire support, medical and police car.

With regard to technical characteristics, the combat weight of the machine is about 6,3 tons, can reach a maximum speed of 90 to 105 kilometers per hour (depending on the power plant used), can accommodate 3 man crew and 8 man landing. The armored personnel carrier can be successfully used to equip various special forces and army formations in the event that they perform patrol, reconnaissance and peacekeeping functions, and can also be used as the main vehicle in the event of hostilities, in particular, in the conditions of use weapons mass destruction.

The armored car has an automobile layout, which makes it possible to ensure a high level of cross-country ability, while at the same time ensuring a high level of security during the disembarkation-landing of personnel. Thanks to the bonnet layout, convenient and fairly easy access to the steering, powerplant, air and brake systems is provided during their maintenance and repair work.

In terms of design features, the car consists of several compartments: habitable and engine-transmission. The engine compartment is located in the forward and central parts of the body. From the habitable compartment it is separated by a vibration-insulating hermetic partition. In this section are the engine and service systems, the main components of the steering. Transmission, brake and air systems, and in addition - the components of the heating systems of the habitable compartment and the air conditioning system.

The habitable compartment is located in the central and aft parts of the hull. It houses people, installs equipment that is necessary for their work, fits equipment and ammunition. The conditionally habitable compartment can be divided into a control compartment, a landing compartment and a combat compartment.

The control compartment is located in the front of the compartment. It is the place of the driver and controls. In addition, the commander’s place is located here and navigation and communication facilities are installed.

The combat compartment is located in the center of the squad. It is located workplace shooter and the remote control and aiming anti-aircraft machine gun.

The landing compartment is located in the aft part of the habitable compartment. It contains a mass for the landing party, loopholes for firing by personnel, as well as periscope instruments. In addition, the habitable compartment also contains the main components of the heating, ventilation and air conditioning systems, a filtering unit, which is designed to clean incoming air from outside from radioactive dust, toxic substances and biological aerosols. The installation delivers the purified air to the habitable compartment and creates in it an overpressure, and in addition cleans the habitable compartment from the powder gases during firing. With the help of a ventilation system, fresh air is forced to circulate and the powder gases are removed in case of shooting from small arms, and the filtration unit is turned off.

Comfortable conditions for the landing and crew provide a liquid-type heating system and air conditioning system.

Thanks to the armored car body of the armored car, the crew, equipment and troops are protected from anti-personnel mines, small arms and weapons of mass destruction. And due to the deformation staining, the visibility is reduced and the detection range is reduced. The hull is covered with armor steel, armored glass is used to glaze the armored vehicle, which ensures a sufficiently high level of protection. The bottom of the car is also made of armor steel, and mine protection is provided by its cylindrical shape.

As the main armament on an armored car, an anti-aircraft machine gun of caliber 12,7 millimeters (NSVT-12,7), equipped with a remote control, is used. Ammunition consists of 450 shots. In addition, the anti-aircraft gun is equipped with a ROM-7 optical periscopic monocular sight.

You can monitor the terrain through the windows or daytime surveillance devices. In the conditions of night or poor visibility, the driver can use a night vision device to control the vehicle.

The power plant, which is used on the "Dozor-B", is a four-stroke, four-cylinder in-line diesel engines with intermediate cooling of the charging air and with the DEUZ BF 4M 1013 FC or IVECO 8142.38.11 tubdulling. With the help of a mechanical power transmission, a constant transmission of torque from the engine to the wheels is ensured.

External communication is provided by radio stations P-173-M and radio P-173PM. Internal communication is provided with the help of the intercom equipment AVSK-1.

Radio navigation equipment is used to continuously determine the coordinates of time, place and ground speed of objects using signals from the NAVSTAR and GLONASS GPS systems anywhere in the world, regardless of time, climatic or weather conditions.

As a special equipment provided in the armored car, a system of centralized tire inflation and a winch is used. Due to the centralized tire inflation system, constant tire pressure is ensured. In addition, the driver from his seat can monitor and measure tire pressure.

The winch is used for self-pulling the vehicle, as well as pulling other machines of the same mass.

BTR can be transported using road, rail, air and sea transport.

As for the very future of the manufacturer of armored vehicles Dozor-B, it should be noted that the Kiev Armored Repair Plant is a serious enough enterprise. It has been on the market since 1935. The plant works for the Ukrainian military-industrial complex, carrying out major repairs and modernization of engineering, armored and military equipment, as well as engaged in the manufacture of spare parts for armored vehicles and consumer goods.

Among the military products manufactured by the enterprise, it should be noted spare parts and components for armored weapons and equipment, park equipment and training facilities. The plant carries out modernization and repair tanks T-54, T62, T-55, T-62M, T-55M, T-64, T-55MV, T-72, T-55AMV, T-72A, T-72B1, T-72B, Howitzer chassis "Caliber 152 mm, guns" Hyacinth ", mortars" Tulip ", anti-aircraft missile systems" Circle ".

The company is also known as a manufacturer of civil products: fire engines, tractors, diesel generators, winches, trailers, power plants, off-road vehicles based on the LUAZ chassis, anti-theft devices.







Materials used:
http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C4%EE%E7%EE%F0-%C1
http://www.morozov.com.ua/rus/body/dozorb.php
http://military-informer.narod.ru/Armored-dozor.html
http://topwar.ru/489-btr-dozor-b-ukraina.html
http://andrei-bt.livejournal.com/215411.html

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  1. Professor
    Professor April 15 2013 07: 44 New
    +8
    Article "+". good
    The case is covered with armored steel, bulletproof glass is used for glazing the armored personnel carrier, due to which a sufficiently high level of protection is provided. The bottom of the car is also made of armored steel, and mine protection is provided by its cylindrical shape.

    It would not hurt to indicate a specific level of ballistic and mine protection in accordance with GOST or the bourgeois standard (did the papelats pass the tests?).

    It would not hurt the designers to suspend the crew seats, and not to rigidly fix them to the hull.
    1. Akim
      Akim April 15 2013 08: 09 New
      +1
      Quote: Professor
      It would not hurt to indicate a specific level of ballistic and mine protection in accordance with GOST or the bourgeois standard (did the papelats pass the tests?).

      I don’t know by standards, but the armor is bulletproof, anti-shatter. Holds a bullet of 7,62 mm B-32 (BP). At the request of the customer can be equipped with ceramic armor to protect against 12,7 mm bullets.
    2. Geisenberg
      Geisenberg April 15 2013 16: 30 New
      +3
      Quote: Professor

      It would not hurt to indicate a specific level of ballistic and mine protection in accordance with GOST or the bourgeois standard (did the papelats pass the tests?).


      Bulletproof. Guest yourself think. In general, the machine is so-so. Its main advantage is that it is.
  2. Akim
    Akim April 15 2013 07: 52 New
    +2
    Dozor-B is to replace all armored vehicles in the airborne brigades of the Airborne Forces, while Dozor-A is to replace Hamera and Shishariki (Shishy).
    1. Alexander Kirov
      Alexander Kirov April 15 2013 18: 59 New
      +1
      Not DOZOR, but SHAME-D (for deputies of BP)
    2. APASUS
      APASUS April 15 2013 20: 12 New
      +1
      Quote: Akim
      Dozor-B is to replace all armored vehicles in airborne brigades of the Airborne Forces,

      Poor Airborne! Don’t be offended, but the papelac seems to have gone through the stage of crazy hands.
      I just have a couple of comments to look at;
      These are seats welded with a square pipe to the floor! And what can keep this seat in the explosion under the bottom ...... it is not clear!
      And the second one is this scrambler with buttons on the dashboard. Does its location and fastening bother me, will it not get an ordinary on the front row on the head with these buttons in an explosion ??
      1. Akim
        Akim April 15 2013 20: 30 New
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        Quote: APASUS
        APASUS

        Do you see here a production model, or something sho bulo on the Internet?
  3. UFO
    UFO April 15 2013 08: 01 New
    +5
    Internal layout is squalor. What will happen to the landing party if this "wagon" turns over? Mash? belay
    1. Professor
      Professor April 15 2013 08: 20 New
      +5
      I already noted about the seats, they are not anti-mine, they are not suspended, there are no safety belts, nothing protects the neck. IMHO this is not a problem since you can buy ready-made ones, if they really fit in there.
      1. Akim
        Akim April 15 2013 08: 39 New
        +1
        Quote: Professor
        this is not a problem since you can buy ready-made ones if they really fit in there.

        Suspended seats from the BTR-4 can easily fit there. Moreover, they can be hung "back to back" and "back to sides".
      2. leon-iv
        leon-iv April 15 2013 09: 41 New
        +2
        Profff and how is that? In the pose of a mountain eagle?
        1. UFO
          UFO April 15 2013 09: 48 New
          +2
          And what to hold on to each other? request
        2. Professor
          Professor April 15 2013 10: 05 New
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          In the pose of a mountain eagle?

          good
          There is a footrest. Feet by the way, too, put on the floor is not recommended, breaks.
          (see video http://www.teamwendy.com/research-collaboration/vehicle-occupant-protection/)
          1. leon-iv
            leon-iv April 15 2013 10: 12 New
            0
            Yes, it’s clear that the stands, but there really is a very VERY little place.
            1. Professor
              Professor April 15 2013 10: 24 New
              -1
              Yes, it’s clear that the stands, but there really is a very VERY little place.

              if you want to live - not so fuss
              1. Ilya Kovalenko
                Ilya Kovalenko April 16 2013 00: 05 New
                0
                Yes, there is zero reservation. And you say live.
        3. Akuzenka
          Akuzenka April 15 2013 22: 00 New
          -1
          Yeah and shoot over the head of the soldier who sits opposite. The upper machine gunner has no arcs. It seems that the project has been squeezed through the "Young Banderiata" circle of the Western Muhosk. I ask you not to be offended by the residents of Muhosk, I personally apologize in advance.
    2. Vanek
      Vanek April 15 2013 08: 23 New
      +1
      Quote: UFO
      Internal layout


      This is not a Mercedes for you, but a war machine.
    3. Vital 33
      Vital 33 April 15 2013 08: 47 New
      +1
      What about hanging seats on the Tiger?
      1. Professor
        Professor April 15 2013 08: 51 New
        +2

        There are such and simple.
        1. Vital 33
          Vital 33 April 15 2013 08: 58 New
          +3
          Well, here I think it will be explosion-proof, just pictures of a prototype ... Not fools in the design bureau in Kharkov ...
          1. Conepatus
            Conepatus April 15 2013 15: 43 New
            0
            In the design bureau, they may not be fools, but fools are sitting in power. They don’t drive these cars. So I think the easiest option will go to the native army at the price of the most sophisticated one (after all, you have to have something to do with this power) Well, if someone you’ll be interested in other countries, then yes, they’ll put everything to the maximum. But then the plant will receive a minimum. For the same reason.
        2. Vital 33
          Vital 33 April 15 2013 08: 58 New
          0
          Well, here I think it will be explosion-proof, just pictures of a prototype ... Not fools in the design bureau in Kharkov ...
    4. Vital 33
      Vital 33 April 15 2013 08: 47 New
      0
      What about hanging seats on the Tiger?
  4. Avenger711
    Avenger711 April 15 2013 08: 17 New
    0
    Willingly we believe in it.
  5. Vital 33
    Vital 33 April 15 2013 08: 22 New
    0
    The fact that the ZPU is remotely controlled is good. But not enough data ... armor protection, resistance to undermining, etc. ... What kind of tests did he pass?
  6. Xtra1l
    Xtra1l April 15 2013 08: 26 New
    +1
    Quote: UFO
    Internal layout is squalor. What will happen to the landing party if this "wagon" turns over? Mash? belay

    Well, at least something is being collected, you yourself know what is happening with the economy
    1. Ilya Kovalenko
      Ilya Kovalenko April 16 2013 00: 14 New
      0
      It is better to collect a little but better than a lot, but how did you develop "something".
  7. Professor
    Professor April 15 2013 08: 38 New
    0
    To my Ukrainian colleagues, here is a manufacturer of mine arms. Payment upon delivery.
    Mine Blast Resistant Side Facing Crew Seat
  8. Burmestr
    Burmestr April 15 2013 09: 21 New
    +1
    This Watch looks awkward and wretched
    It would be better if they developed a new model
  9. UFO
    UFO April 15 2013 09: 29 New
    0
    Quote: Xtra1l
    Well, at least something is being collected, you yourself know what is happening with the economy

    2003 video? hi
    Quote: Burmestr
    This Watch looks awkward and wretched. Better if they developed a new model

    I mean the same. yes
  10. zvereok
    zvereok April 15 2013 09: 32 New
    +1
    The machine gun on the roof, the fighters in the parts will independently weigh armor with sheets?
    1. Akim
      Akim April 15 2013 09: 36 New
      0
      Quote: zvereok
      The machine gun on the roof, the fighters in the parts will independently weigh armor with sheets?

      What for? Have you seen the T-64B or T-80 armor plates?
    2. Vital 33
      Vital 33 April 15 2013 10: 27 New
      0
      zvereok Have you read the article? It is written REMOTE CONTROLLED !!!
    3. Vital 33
      Vital 33 April 15 2013 10: 27 New
      0
      Have you read the article? It is written REMOTE CONTROLLED !!!
    4. Ilya Kovalenko
      Ilya Kovalenko April 16 2013 00: 17 New
      0
      What do you think? "Hand made".
  11. xetai9977
    xetai9977 April 15 2013 09: 32 New
    +3
    Outwardly similar to the Turkish "Cobra"
  12. mark1
    mark1 April 15 2013 10: 31 New
    +1
    Maybe a little off topic. Well, Ukraine has made "Dozor", they seem to like it - well done. But our topic "Vodnik", I somehow lost sight of why it was removed from production. Was it really impossible to attach a V-shaped bottom instead of a flat bottom or there were some other reasons about which I do not know? Can someone enlighten?
    1. cth; fyn
      cth; fyn April 15 2013 11: 49 New
      +1
      The V-shaped bottom does not provide full protection in case of undermining under the wheel, this was written about the other day in the article "Is the" old "well forgotten to become" new "?"
      1. mark1
        mark1 April 16 2013 00: 27 New
        0
        Well, then it is. but here I rummaged in the photographs - the driver is not sitting on the wheel, so that his protection against undermining is no worse, at least than with the armored personnel carrier, the bonnet layout, of course, is more preferable, in the sense of protection against mines and land mines, but it seems to me , this is not so critical, although ... experts know better. But I would have bought one myself.
  13. kotdavin4i
    kotdavin4i April 15 2013 10: 39 New
    +4
    Good morning, I will express my comments. with such an installation of seats - it will be possible to shoot from loopholes only when standing or from the stop with one knee into the chair. firing on the move seems unlikely to me - holding a weapon and trying to resist yourself is problematic. further there is no interior lining of the cabin, also not buzzing. The review through the embrasures is small, the armored car is more likely for the city, then it is preferable to insert the embrasures into double-glazed windows (as on a tiger).
    1. cth; fyn
      cth; fyn April 15 2013 12: 10 New
      0
      I agree that the loopholes are too high, it’ll practically not be convenient, it was necessary to place them at shoulder level, and the seats had to be done as on the BTR-4 so that there was the possibility of their rotation facing the side and vice versa, the back door also causes complaints how will the paratroopers dismount through it? I think it should have been made two-fold and wide. the machine gun protection is also criticized, the machine gun itself can be damaged and the machine will remain unarmed, and what's the point of being remotely controlled when it is shot? In principle, there is nothing new, the machine gun protection can’t stand it, protection against antipersonnel only, but what prevents one more mine from being laid? never mind. and the average power of explosive devices is 7-8 kg of TNT, and less than half a kilogram of antipersonnel weight.
      Yes, garbage, a little more tinkering and there will be sense.
  14. Drejk
    Drejk April 15 2013 10: 59 New
    -1
    What this BTR is similar to our old BTR-152)))) invented a lot of new things))))
  15. Drejk
    Drejk April 15 2013 10: 59 New
    0
    What this BTR is similar to our old BTR-152)))) invented a lot of new things))))
    1. Alekseev
      Alekseev April 15 2013 12: 44 New
      -1
      It looks like an BTR-40.
      If they remained in the warehouses, then put the MMZ diesel engine, strengthen the hull in some places, and even better the Watch will come out.
      And cheaper at times. wink
      1. cth; fyn
        cth; fyn April 15 2013 23: 55 New
        +1
        That's why if an armored car with a front-mounted MTO, then immediately the BTR-40? that the Kamaz shot that is a miracle, as people narrowly see.
        1. Alekseev
          Alekseev April 16 2013 19: 07 New
          0
          And the KAMAZ armored car is similar. Why is the BTR-40 bad?
          Many wars have passed.
          Of course, if modernization is done, only an armored corps will remain from it (and nothing else laughing )
          But cheap and cheerful.
          Ukrainians had to ask the Jews, they already did that.
  16. gych
    gych April 15 2013 11: 02 New
    -2
    as for me it’s better than brdm. it’s the best for the meratoric contingent or the military and military affairs ministry too. the truth is rightly noticed there are enough shortcomings (armchair, lining, etc.) well there will be an order there will be complaints and this is all thought out. and I want to add the ags to it wouldn’t hurt a machine gun
  17. desiscia
    desiscia April 15 2013 11: 37 New
    0
    it will not bother us
  18. desiscia
    desiscia April 15 2013 11: 37 New
    0
    it will not bother us
    1. Andrey77
      Andrey77 April 15 2013 13: 52 New
      0
      it will not bother us
      --
      That's your business. Ask your Ukrainian Rada how much the machine costs for the Ukrainian Armed Forces.
  19. Navuxonastupil
    Navuxonastupil April 15 2013 12: 59 New
    -7
    It's all about one letter! Change the name of this pepelatsa "D" to "T" and everything falls into place. But the main secret is not visible in the pictures - the container for LAT! laughing
  20. Andrey77
    Andrey77 April 15 2013 13: 48 New
    0
    I don’t understand the target niche of this machine. What is she for?
    1. Akim
      Akim April 15 2013 14: 01 New
      0
      Quote: Andrey77
      I don’t understand the target niche of this machine. What is she for?

      In the regular forces, the replacement of the BTR-70/80 in highly mobile units. Their landing method can be transported by helicopters and An-26/32.
      1. LINX
        LINX April 15 2013 19: 42 New
        0
        Dear Akim, but there are specific plans for the release / orders in the sun of these cars in pcs. or price?
        1. Akim
          Akim April 15 2013 20: 25 New
          0
          Nothing of this yet. In general, similar news appeared on the first of April, but this is not a joke. Government orders are classified. How much will be is unknown. But for 2013-14, 7,12 billion hryvnias are planned for rearmament.
    2. Alexander Kirov
      Alexander Kirov April 15 2013 19: 54 New
      +2
      See below my comment at 18.45
  21. gych
    gych April 15 2013 14: 24 New
    0
    Navuxonastupil you sir and you have stupid jokes
  22. Stalinets
    Stalinets April 15 2013 15: 17 New
    0
    Never heard of such a plant ..... request
  23. svp67
    svp67 April 15 2013 15: 28 New
    +1
    Quote: Stalinist
    Never heard of such a plant ..... request

    But experts know him well ...
  24. xomaNN
    xomaNN April 15 2013 16: 14 New
    0
    The undertaking is interesting, as soon as it comes to financing and implementation. Good intentions of the Ukrainian military will not be enough for this :))
  25. Krasnoyarsk
    Krasnoyarsk April 15 2013 16: 32 New
    0
    Well done, ukry brothers, I wonder what class of protection this unit has.
  26. gorkoxnumx
    gorkoxnumx April 15 2013 16: 50 New
    0
    It’s completely nothing to close the niche of cheap armored personnel carriers !!!
  27. lilit.193
    lilit.193 April 15 2013 17: 09 New
    +2
    And tell me, who knows, is this also "Dozor-B" or is it another armor?
    1. Akim
      Akim April 15 2013 17: 31 New
      +3
      It is he. Only in a different face.
      1. lilit.193
        lilit.193 April 15 2013 20: 09 New
        +1
        Thank you. smile So he looks cooler than in the photo in the article.
  28. tuts
    tuts April 15 2013 18: 25 New
    +1
    for military doctors with a big red cross is suitable
  29. Chicot 1
    Chicot 1 April 15 2013 18: 48 New
    +1
    The armored vehicle is interesting and cute. Of course it has a lot of "childhood diseases". But as far as I know, this is the first car of this class designed and built in Ukraine. With the right and reasonable approach to revision, there is a real chance to turn the "ugly duckling" into a "beautiful swan" ...
    And I also saw a mention of a concept called "Dozor-M". A family of armored vehicles based on Dozor-B. Depending on the purpose, they have a 4x4 or 6x6 wheel arrangement. It was also supposed to use a different type of body - fully armored or cargo.
    I have no information about the practical implementation of this concept. Most likely he remained on paper ...
    "Dozor-M" (performed by an armored personnel carrier with a 6x6 wheel arrangement)
  30. Alexander Kirov
    Alexander Kirov April 15 2013 18: 53 New
    +2
    The BA-64 class car is designed for golden eagle and fight with its own people. This machine is not suitable for the better. Well, 450 of them will be released, one for each MP, to protect them again from their own voters. If you think the opposite or think that the machine was created for the battle is a deep delusion. What is interesting is that money, unlike the BMPT-64 and other necessary army, can really be found at the expense of the budget. Their life is more expensive. As for the Ukrainian army, leave the disputes-the army is already gone. The Minister of Defense of Ukraine graduated from the Yaroslavl School the rear and match the stool in business.
    1. Akim
      Akim April 15 2013 19: 10 New
      +3
      Who said that "Patrols" are not needed. Or do you know the opinion of our landings after last year's ShirLan, where there were joint exercises and the Russians were on the Tigers. Don't you know don't say. But for God's sake, don't get politics involved. She got it already.
      1. Alexander Kirov
        Alexander Kirov April 15 2013 19: 43 New
        +2
        I misunderstood about the landings? Are these the guys who forgot when they jumped with a parachute? Is that the team in Zhitomir named after Hussein that they went to to earn apartments in Iraq and got a penny without armor? Then you had to remember the landing and love him. How many jumps did the paratrooper from Ukraine take in a year and how many in the Soviet army? Still have questions. Do not touch a sore subject, it’s explosive.
        1. Akim
          Akim April 15 2013 20: 06 New
          +3
          I understand you are in the mood for all the modern faults. As for the last year, then that year, the landings performed 32 thousand jumps. And on Shirlan there were Nikolaev paratroopers. And there were none in Iraq. There were 5 and 6 fur. brigades. Therefore, do not climb with past grievances from scratch.
  31. Alexander Kirov
    Alexander Kirov April 15 2013 19: 51 New
    +4
    We don’t touch politics, you can get caught up in manure, but without state defense policy there is nothing to talk about the army of Ukraine as a whole. Believe me, I know more about the combat readiness of units, there is NO policy, there is no combat readiness. Cronyism flourishes. so that landing should be paid to Yugoslavia 3 salaries, Yugoslav and I did not come up with it. Take ser for the axiom-army in Ukraine NO. There are military units guarding what did not have time to sell. Point.
  32. family tree
    family tree April 15 2013 20: 39 New
    +2
    In the regular forces, the replacement of the BTR-70/80 in highly mobile units
    It will not replace either 70 or 80, the cross-country ability is not the same, and the purpose too. In general, a normal car for police operations, that is, for the inside. Well, like, "hot spots" on their territory, or in the rear of the army, against the partisans.
  33. Alexander Kirov
    Alexander Kirov April 15 2013 21: 49 New
    +1
    Unarmed partisans will go. And RPG-7v? No one canceled. TTX remember? Sighting range, direct shot? From an RPG, I hit a tank in a trench at a height of 700 m for 1 meters. From the first shot in a crosswind with a mechanical sight. This is a target, but there weren’t any targets either. And what partisans will tolerate the presence of small-arms on the road. This is a police operation machine, the rest a screen for true goals and the opportunity to spend the budget on the Ministry of Internal Affairs from the money of the Ministry of Defense.
  34. Alexander Kirov
    Alexander Kirov April 15 2013 21: 59 New
    0
    Give me this couple
  35. Akuzenka
    Akuzenka April 15 2013 22: 05 New
    +2
    This is not an armored personnel carrier, this is a purely TECHNICAL vehicle. It is completely unsuitable for combat. As an RChBZ vehicle - there will be no price, but as a means of delivering soldiers to the battlefield during a battle - bullshit (sorry for my "French").
    1. Akim
      Akim April 15 2013 22: 09 New
      +2
      This is a car for the Airborne Forces. Or are the "Tigers" in full formation also going into battle?
  36. Oleg Alexandrovich
    Oleg Alexandrovich April 15 2013 22: 17 New
    0
    Well done Slavs !!! Work for evil everyone !!!
  37. Zynaps
    Zynaps April 16 2013 05: 22 New
    +3
    as always - instead of a constructive discussion by the loony bin and horse drawn circus. Sturgeon's principle is observed impeccably: 10% of sane comments account for 90% of the contents of a night pot.
    1. Vital 33
      Vital 33 April 16 2013 07: 37 New
      +3
      And why be surprised?))) Here is the club "foul all Ukrainian ...", even if it is good, it is still "foul" ...))) What an irrational hatred, contrary to common sense. I am glad that at least a few people did not join this club ...
      1. Alexander Kirov
        Alexander Kirov April 16 2013 13: 22 New
        +1
        Alas, Ukrainian defense realities are even worse. I personally look broader at all this production of BT and AT equipment. Tell me, what has been done in Ukraine in such a way that one can be proud of its industrial defense complex?
        1. Akim
          Akim April 16 2013 14: 31 New
          +2
          And what do you want to hear in response? Ukraine independently produces the entire range of weapons, except for combat aircraft and naval weapons (they conjure it now). That’s what was put in the troops — this is another question.
          1. bask
            bask April 16 2013 19: 43 New
            +2
            Quote: Akim
            That's what was put in the troops - this is another question

            ,, Dozor-B ,, is not the best option.
            In 2011, HCMB them. Morozov, together with the Kharkov design bureau for engine building, as well as the Institute of Metallophysics of NAS of Ukraine named after Kurdyumova. They finished a prototype, ready for production in a series. Under the name ,, Cockroach ,, when creating an armored car, we used all the available advanced and promising Ukrainian and some foreign design developments in this area. And the same tag used earlier in the armored car, Dozor B ,,. 300 hp engine And a specially designed research institute, composite armor.
            ,,, Cockroach ,, I like it more than, Dozor-B ,, The only question is whether he went into the series.
            1. Akim
              Akim April 16 2013 20: 12 New
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              I don't know such a miracle. But the armored car "Kozak" recently again appeared on trials with the ATGM "Skif / Shershen" Obviously not for police operations.
    2. Vital 33
      Vital 33 April 16 2013 07: 37 New
      0
      And why be surprised?))) Here is the club "foul all Ukrainian ...", even if it is good, it is still "foul" ...))) What an irrational hatred, contrary to common sense. I am glad that at least a few people did not join this club ...
  38. Maximus
    Maximus April 16 2013 16: 02 New
    +2
    They have at least their own, and Iveka and I don’t know what to do ......
  39. smershspy
    smershspy 16 May 2013 16: 58 New
    +3
    Gentlemen! I agree that the car is simple, but they do their best. This car reminds me of a parody of the old "Frenchman"! I have the honor!