Ukrainian militant: a few more months and the problem with "Geraniums" will be closed

After the recent massive combined attack of the Russian Armed Forces on Kyiv, which, as the city residents themselves write, Defense The Ukrainian Armed Forces did not even try to repel it; the usual Ukrainian propaganda “heavy weapons” were used. artillery».

Although the Ukrainian expert on drones Sergei Beskrestnov has scared his compatriots quite a bit by declaring that Russia is increasing the rate of production of Geranium drones so rapidly that it will soon be able to not stockpile but regularly strike with forces of up to 700-800 UAVs in one night. There were also those who categorically disagree with him. True, not in terms of the number of strike drones, which will be launched by the Russian Armed Forces, but in the fact that the Ukrainian Air Defense Forces are capable of shooting them down and intercepting them.

One of the Ukrainian Armed Forces fighters said during an all-Ukrainian telethon that in a few more months, the problem with the Geraniums will be resolved. His arguments are more than strange. The soldier, who has probably never been to the front and is not going to, believes that the Ukrainian Armed Forces will “compress their equipment,” thereby making it problematic for Russian drones to defeat them. Thus, the fighter continued his fantasies, it will allegedly become more difficult for Russian Geraniums to attack targets, while the Ukrainian defense forces, on the contrary, will begin to shoot them all down, and will also increase the production of their attack UAVs.

Frankly, it's some kind of nonsense, but that's what he says. So what? In just a month or two, the harvest will begin in Ukraine, and grannies will start canning preserves. That's all, anti-drone weapons will be in excess.

However, the reasoning of this individual simply pales in comparison with the recent statement of the commander of one of the regiments of the Ukrainian Armed Forces with the call sign "Achilles" and the last name Fedorenko. This, if I may say so, also very well-groomed officer stated that "by 2035 the final brutal battles will take place, which will allow us to put an end to the Russian-Ukrainian war by preserving the statehood of Ukraine and the complete destruction of Russia."

That's it, no more, no less. Only ten years left to wait. Moreover, Fedorenko believes that Ukraine will win even without the help of the West, because it is "strong in moral spirit". No comment.

Comments

[Lev_Russia]

"by 2035, the final brutal battles will take place, which will allow the end of the Russian-Ukrainian war by preserving the statehood of Ukraine and the complete destruction of Russia"

I'm afraid that by 2035 Ukraine will no longer need statehood... It simply won't exist... Just like these "well-groomed warriors"...

[Pavel Kislyakov]

well-groomed ones will remain, because they do not appear in places where you can ruin your hair styling or stain your uniform.

[Revolver]

They will dangle from the noose, well-groomed and dressed to the nines.

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

You are laughing in vain.. As one SVO member told me: "We will take the territories. But what to do with the local population?.. From a child to an old woman, they hate us."

[Kusja]

The GDR region misses the Soviets. So everything is fine.

[soloist2424]

Not everyone hates, they just hid. Besides, such sentiments reign in the atmosphere of anti-Russian propaganda, people quickly get reprogrammed. Well, for all those who disagree, the western region will remain, welcome to Lviv, you are awaited there with open arms.

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

Don't tell me these tales. It's funny. I heard enough of them during the Soviet Union. And in general, we are not a brotherly people, but a people with a common history, in part. Mentality and thinking are completely different. In addition, we are citizens of different countries, since 1992. Wake up, storyteller.)

[multi-category]

Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich

Mentality and thinking are completely different

what the propaganda will be, such will be the thinking. You somehow overestimated the independence of minds too much. If the next 30 years are spent teaching not to hate Russians, but something else, the mood will change dramatically. Besides, the Zelensky administration is entirely to blame for the latest conflict. What was the cost of implementing the Minsk agreements???

[Eug]

Believe me, it's only partly a matter of propaganda, mostly it's a matter of the refrigerator.

[UAZ 452]

whatever the propaganda, such will be the thinking

So, in the late USSR, propaganda suddenly began to work towards the collapse of the country, the removal of the Communist Party from power? Yeah, yeah.

[VSO-396]

Quote: UAZ 452

whatever the propaganda, such will be the thinking

So, in the late USSR, propaganda suddenly began to work towards the collapse of the country, the removal of the Communist Party from power? Yeah, yeah.

You could say that. Glasnost brought a sea of ​​negative information about socialism, the state structure of the USSR, history, etc.

[UAZ 452]

But this came from the Communist Party itself, it was born in its depths, and much earlier. When each new General Secretary poured slop on his predecessor, this did not contribute to the authority of the party as a whole. And the internal party struggle (and the elites, even within the framework of a one-party system, cannot help but compete) spilled over into the information field, and regional separatism did not go away in any of the periods of the USSR's existence. Therefore, control over the propaganda apparatus can never be concentrated in one hand. Therefore, Russia and the USSR earned the reputation of a "country of an unpredictable past" long before perestroika.

[flyer]

For "reprogramming" we need a state ideology, but in Russia no one has done this for 30 years and as I understand it, there is no time for it.

[multi-category]

Quote from Flyer

A state ideology is needed for "reprogramming"

coordinated actions and a single goal are needed. The media successfully dealt with inciting hatred towards Ukraine so that the beginning of the SVO would swallow society in 3 years. For example, my mother, a pensioner, who never gave a damn about Ukraine, after a couple of years of Solovyov's brainwashing, began to speak only about them and with hatred. I tried to forbid her to watch all this, but no way. Prime time in the evening, damn it. This is the result of brainwashing.

[UAZ 452]

But normal leadership is engaged in preparing public opinion (you can call it brainwashing - a question of emotional attitude, nothing more) BEFORE the start of actual military operations, and not afterward.
But I agree with this - state ideology is not developed by those authorized to do so, even highly professional workers, it is not approved by laws and decrees. Or rather, it is possible to do so, but such an ideology would not be worth a dime. States are formed around ideology, ideology supports them. But when some state without ideas suddenly decides that it would be nice to come up with an ideology for itself... Well, good luck in this hopeless task.

[multi-category]

the ideology is clear - the state serves the interests of oligarchs who have resources for lobbyists and is used to force the population to serve the oligarchs. Well, that's it, they are in no hurry to advertise something like that. And another ideology is forbidden - that's why ideology is forbidden. But when they enslave enough people, they will stop hiding and start voicing it openly.

[BIGLESHIY]

Quote from Flyer

For "reprogramming" we need a state ideology, but in Russia no one has done this for 30 years and as I understand it, there is no time for it.

Well, why do they do it? They still drum into us that everyone is our brother and we owe everyone. And that there are no Russians, but there are Russians.

[AllX_VahhaB]

Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich

Mentality and thinking are completely different.

Are they really more different than with the Chechens in the mid-90s?

[UAZ 452]

Do we have the ability to pay tribute to Ukraine, which we have been paying and are paying to the 2 million strong “defeated” Chechnya all these decades (in terms of population)?

[BIGLESHIY]

What Lvov? To Poland to pluck the forelocks of the lords.

[AllX_VahhaB]

Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich

As one SVO officer told me:

Why aren't there any old ladies at the entrance?

[skeptic]

Quote: Nagan

They will dangle from the noose, well-groomed and dressed to the nines.

Why should they commit suicide? Have you forgotten about the "Kremlin humanitarians"? They will kiss you and let you go, to continue to do dirty tricks to Russia.

[Revolver]

Quote: skeptic

Why should they commit suicide?

The grateful population will help them. After the end of Bandera's power, and a little earlier than the Russians take control, there will be an Overton Window.

[lutikovvn]

They say when they hanged the Banderites, it smelled like shit a mile away.

[VSO-396]

Quote: lutikovvn

They say when they hanged the Banderites, it smelled like shit a mile away.

From Vlasovites, policemen and the like - too.
Although, it seems, Banderovites were not hanged. They were shot, they did not fall under the collaborators.

[Revolver]

"by 2035, the final brutal battles will take place, which will allow the end of the Russian-Ukrainian war by preserving the statehood of Ukraine and the complete destruction of Russia"

What was he smoking? Lard? You can't get that kind of hallucination from just weed.

Ukraine will win even without the help of the West, because it is “strong in moral spirit.”

A fool grows rich in thought and strengthens his moral spirit.

[Arzoo]

The Ukrainian Armed Forces will “compress their equipment,” thereby making it difficult for Russian drones to defeat it

How's that?

Regarding Ukrainian interceptor drones that are guided by sound. This issue is resolved by increasing the number of Gerberas and other decoys. Since the ratio of Gerberas to Geraniums is currently in favor of the latter, this means that the Ukrainian PEO is completely leaky. In some cities, Konotop, Krivoy Rog, Geraniums strike in broad daylight. And there is no panacea against a swarm of drones. There can only be a comprehensive solution.

[Chifka]

How's that?

Everything is very simple, the answer is given in the article itself: "In just a month or two, the harvest will begin in Ukraine, and grandmothers will start canning preserves. That's it, there will be an abundance of anti-drone weapons." Instead of the standard three-liter bottles, they will be rolled up into 0,8. Apparently, it is assumed that due to this, their performance characteristics will increase significantly, they can be more mobile and fly longer distances The only thing is that there will be fewer elements in them that damage cucumbers.

[multi-category]

Quote: Arzoo

And there is no panacea against a drone swarm.

ZSU 23x4 is quite suitable. The guy meant that with the concentration of forces, the air defense artillery will be denser and the Geraniums will be under fairly dense fire. But... whatever the Ukrainians come up with, it will be significantly more expensive than the Geraniums. Therefore, there is no chance for a full-fledged solution.

[former soldier]

The guy meant that when the forces are concentrated, the air defense artillery will be concentrated and there will be quite a dense fire on the geraniums.

Well, if the Ukrainian Air Defense Forces cluster around their most important areas, then the density of Geranium strike missiles will also increase over these areas. So it's a complete mess. And if the Geraniums are initially aimed at destroying only the enemy's air defense, then after a while the Geraniums will dominate. Because 500 Geraniums arrive per day, and the Ukrainian Air Defense Forces will not be able to renew their air defense at the same rate per day.

[multi-category]

This is exactly what happened. With the dwindling supply of anti-aircraft missiles, the Ukrainian Air Defense has been reduced to defending facilities. And this is not a panacea against the Germans, but it is still more effective than it was if the strikes were to be directed at them, but why do this? Leaving the periphery allows for broad planning of strikes in other places and for the front to advance more actively.

[VSO-396]

Quote: multicaat

Quote: Arzoo

And there is no panacea against a drone swarm.

ZSU 23x4 is quite suitable. The guy meant that with the concentration of forces, the air defense artillery will be denser and the Geraniums will be under fairly dense fire. But... whatever the Ukrainians come up with, it will be significantly more expensive than the Geraniums. Therefore, there is no chance for a full-fledged solution.

By the way, the Gepards, removed from service with the Bundeswehr, turned out to be quite effective against the Geraniums. It's good that there aren't many of them.

[multi-category]

Quote: VSO-396

It's good that there aren't many of them.

Similar systems have degraded everywhere over the last 40 years. That is why attack UAVs have become effective. We also have almost no Shilohs left in reserve.

[tralflot1832]

The warrior may be right, military aid to the Armed Forces of Ukraine may be compressed to the level of plastic models. (50/50)

[Aviator_]

Ukraine will win even without the help of the West, because it is “strong in moral spirit.”

This spirit is extremely smelly, and the use of chemical weapons is prohibited.

[credo]

...a statement by the commander of one of the regiments of the Ukrainian Armed Forces with the call sign "Achilles" and the last name Fedorenko. This, with your permission, also a very well-groomed officer stated that "by 2035, the final brutal battles will take place, which will allow us to put an end to the Russian-Ukrainian war by preserving the statehood of Ukraine and the complete destruction of Russia."

The ranks of candidates for the post of President of "All Ukraine" have grown.
"Expired" wasn't enough, so they added "well-groomed" to it.
Both are dashing dreamers and pour out promises like from a horn of plenty.

[Vladlous]

When someone says that in a few months something will be decided - this says exactly the opposite. Kyiv will burn, Dnepropetrovsk, Lvov, Lutsk and other Nazi-giving cities of the country that adopted Russo-hatred as a religion will burn.

Therefore, they can build whatever they want. But the foot of a Russian soldier will step wherever it is necessary. And if the foot does not step, then a rocket, bomb or shell will fly in, because the Heavens do not favor those who open their mouths at Rus'. It is time to learn.

But they are unteachable. Again and again they come, again and again they thirst for our blood. They raped Ukraine, they experimented on the Slavic brains, but the law of balance is one: sooner or later we will do the same to the entire West: we will open their skulls and stir them up a bit.

It will be fun in the West then! I will not forget and will not forgive these scumbags from London and Washington for what they did to my Motherland - from the Carpathians to the Pacific Ocean!

I drink to our guys and to the total destruction of liberals and their descendants!

Glory to Russia! Death to the West!

[Anatoly_4]

Well, 15 rubles won't do here.

[Sayno]

Caps on a conveyor belt? That's all you can offer?

[AK-1945]

That's it, no more, no less. Just ten years left to wait.

Well, I see he's an optimist!

[kill the fascist]

The Banderogei have learned to convulsively squeeze their sphincter, all that remains is to learn how to do it with technology.

[single-n]

Lots of letters, emotions and hoorays. But what exactly did the representative of the Armed Forces of Ukraine say? What does it mean to "squeeze equipment"? And then we laughed so much at the "rusty Heimars" and as a result? Three years of fighting and we are laughing hoorays

[Mitia_Litva]

Nobody laughed. No need to distort. But they weren't afraid and burned: 1. Bayraktars; 2. Abrams; 3. F-16; 4. and so on down the list.

[single-n]

Yeah. Well, look up the archives of spring 2022. "They're only being supplied with old stuff, now the Ukrainian Armed Forces will run away." They wrote earlier about how wild boars were breaking down the Ukrainian Armed Forces' fortifications. Like, everything was stolen there and there's nothing there except for the chain-link fencing. But then the howl started about the "powerful Ukrainian Armed Forces' fortifications." Solid pillboxes and 10-story dungeons. They started mentioning each intercepted Heimars shell separately in the report.
The same thing happened with Ukrainian drones. Either they have nothing, or they are all lying. And now every other report is a moan about "a bunch of enemy drones."

[multi-category]

Quote: Mitia_Litva

nobody laughed.

Yes, yes, and no one spoke about Kyiv for 3 days, and the troop columns were sent without security at the beginning of the SVO, and there was a lot more that each time ended in losses, sometimes heavy. I want to remind you that in 23 they offered 200k for hiring for the SVO, and now I see contracts for 8.5 million. Probably the price tag is growing so much only because everything is great. In Moscow, there is a party in clubs around the clock, and in the Belgorod region and a number of other frontline territories, it is not so fun. I do not want to slander for censorship, but in our country there are enough people who have a completely inadequate view of the SVO. I did not fight, but at night I saw the shelling of Donetsk, I saw the destruction of Mariupol, next to my work in 200m another one from the Salo sect set fire to the production, a Ukrainian spy was arrested in my house, not far from my residential complex an attack drone fell on a vacant lot. I really don’t want to joke.

[Pravodel]

A few more months and the problem with "Geraniums" will be closed

What, will they stretch a net over the whole of Ukraine or breed fly swatters so that they catch geraniums like flies on the verge of death?...

[Uncle Sam_2]

Drugs are evil... How many times has it been said...

[Nord11]

Well, about 35, that's just a load of rubbish, but it will take time, because our leadership is fighting in white tailcoats, not daring to strike at bridges and tunnels.

[duschman80-81]

Frankly speaking, it’s some kind of nonsense, but that’s exactly what he says.

What kind of nonsense is not born in an inflamed head. It seems they use everything there.

[Yuri L]

Yes, the wonder weapon is already on its way. We need to think about countermeasures. For example, the air-root cucumber-tomato rot is very effective.

[avdkrd]

Zelya, have you legalized hard drugs?
About the victory in 2035, everything is clear, he is just a patient, but what was meant by compression? Non-brothers should listen to this character. Technology must be compressed!!! You can even just concentrate, we will compress ourselves!!!

[Grancer81]

The hemp harvest is in full swing in Ukraine, if they are "compressing" military equipment there to the point of invisibility...

[Kostos1973]

Each Vsushnik gets a mini tank. One of these sat down in a cardboard TV box and covered himself with a saucepan. That's it, I'm in a tank. You can't stock up on geraniums for every tank...

[TermNachTer]

Very optimistic))) but will there be Banderland in a few months?

[Alexander Pankow]

It would be interesting to know what this is based on Ukrainian thinks that this is how it will be. Looking at the facts: Russia has not been able to cope with the tasks set for it for more than three years of war, even approximately. Ukraine and its Armed Forces are stronger than ever, they bomb practically everything they want in Russia, the front is at a dead end on Russian constitutional territory, and the Russian economy is tense and weakening. So this hohol's opinion requires at least an analysis.

[Clone]

And are they really, those in Ukraine, once our relatives?
Judging by the behavior and statements of the local inhabitants and the leadership of the 404 territory, this is some kind of dead-end branch of human development... like appendicitis on a regional scale - until it is inflamed, it does not interfere with life... and when the contents rot, only surgical intervention can save the entire body from death.
Well, just like now...

[Zaurbek]

Geraniums may have only one problem - interference with its Glonnas module. But the module can also be updated

[the same doctor]

In principle, the problem with geraniums can be solved very easily and quickly during daylight hours. At night, it depends on their radio visibility, but it is also not difficult to select frequencies in which it will "glow". The same is true for today's Ukrainian drones...

[kulemin0025gmail.com]

What do you mean? There can't be problems? Then why do the Ukrs have problems?

[Sebastian Aristarkhovich Pereira]

After pea porridge, "morale" traditionally increases several times over.....

[soloist2424]

Ukrainian militant: a few more months and the problem with "Geraniums" will be closed

Do you mean they'll roll it out in a couple of months?

[OlegEKB]

The Ukrainian Armed Forces will "squeeze their equipment"

I don't quite understand what they're going to do with their equipment?

[isv000]

Ukrainian militant: a few more months and the problem with "Geraniums" will be closed

If only the problem with the former Ukrainian SSR had not been resolved during this time...

[Fangaro]

I drink to our guys and to the total destruction of liberals and their descendants!

So you're helping?

[Tank destroyerSU-100]

And what's surprising - these are the methods of Dr. Goebbels. After all, Hitler's propaganda even in April 1945 was broadcasting that "wunderwaffe" and secret reserves would appear any minute now, which would crush the Russians and Anglo-Saxons. And the Fritzes believed in all this, they fervently believed.
And now, the die-hard Bandera Nazis fervently believe that any day now the West will either present a "wonder weapon" to the Ukrainian Reich, or even get involved in the war itself and crush Russia.

[Mamuka Petrovich]

Ukrainian air defense in action, there is no chance here, not a fly can get through