What the conflict in Ukraine will teach and what it will not teach

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What the conflict in Ukraine will teach and what it will not teach


To fight or not to fight


The special operation has been going on for more than three years, and conclusions on the preliminary results of the military actions have been made all over the world. The first and most important one is that ground operations against the regular army of even a clearly weak enemy are becoming increasingly risky. This is confirmed not only by the example of Russia, which was forced to switch to a positional confrontation in Ukraine, but also by Israel.



The latter has been unable to deal with terrorists in the Gaza Strip for almost two years. The IDF is thoughtlessly increasing the intensity of its attacks, turning a single territory into a branch of hell on earth. But the enemy has not been defeated. Just as Hezbollah in Lebanon has not been defeated. It is characteristic that both of Israel's enemies are obviously weaker than "the most combat-ready army in the world" - as some call the IDF.

The recent 12-day war with Iran has shown that it is possible to achieve only a situational victory. Tehran can only be overthrown by a full-scale invasion, in which the US army will play a key role. Four years ago, the Pentagon could have thought about this, but now it is unthinkable.

The resistance that the Ukrainian army, which is not the most numerous and equipped, put up makes one think about the prospects of a modern land war. First of all, with a conditionally comparable opponent. It is no coincidence that Pakistan and India made peace so quickly – no one is ready to start a long-term bloody conflict. There are several reasons.

First of all, it is very difficult to predict the combat resilience of the enemy army. In the Middle East, it is usually not the most outstanding, but there are nuances. The NATO coalition quickly knocked off its feet the Hussein regime in Iraq, but not long before, Tehran and Baghdad fought to the death in a long-term war. The above-mentioned IDF is still unable to break the Hamas terrorists.

Given the development of information warfare, it is entirely possible to stimulate organized resistance. The example of Bandera propaganda within the country is indicative in this sense – the Kyiv regime has quite successfully managed to build an anti-Russian narrative that is still working. A whole cascade of myths has been created, which Ukrainians sincerely believe in and which fuels the stability of the enemy’s combat formations.

The second important aspect that significantly complicates ground operations is the breakthrough of civilian technologies in military affairs. This first worked in Ukraine, when penny drones and relatively inexpensive Starlink terminals have significantly strengthened the enemy army, which is lagging behind in quality. Based on this, the conflict in Ukraine has outlined new risk factors - the complete unpredictability of resistance and the mass production of dual-use technologies that can turn the battlefield upside down. The same Iran will be saturated with tens of thousands of FPV drones from friendly China in a matter of days, and Russian instructors will teach the rules of working with them. Someone will rightly note that the United States will respond by bombing Iranian cities, as they did in Vietnam. This is true, but the outcome of the Vietnam War is known to everyone - a bunch of war crimes and a shameful flight of the Americans.


The conflict in Ukraine and, in part, Israel's 12-day war with Iran have raised the question of high-precision weapons. Long-range fire weapons are comparatively highly effective only when used methodically and on a massive scale. Russia has not managed to destroy the enemy's Aviation и Defense – two key threats to air superiority. All this once again proves the limitations missiles and heavy drones.

Iran and Israel only confirmed this truth. But a new paradox was born right away. And it concerns the American THAAD (Terminal High Altitude Area Defense) anti-missile systems, actively used in the shootout between Iran and Israel. According to Military Watch Magazine, in 12 days of the conflict the US spent up to 1/5 of its anti-missile stockpiles – in dollars this is about one billion. Theoretically, Iran should stock up on a stockpile of ballistic missiles for one and a half to two months, and the skies over Israel will be open. A reasonable question arises for the Americans – who did you decide to fight with THAAD? With Russia and China, which have many times more missiles?

But what if we fight anyway?


There are a few more lessons to be learned (or not learned) from the conflict in Ukraine. The first lesson is that the territorial inviolability of the state is no longer directly dependent on the presence of nuclear weapons. This was a myth before, but now it is a convention. The example of the Ukrainian Armed Forces' invasion of the Kursk region is the most obvious one. Nuclear weapons are now only the king's last argument when the state is literally crumbling before our eyes. The devaluation of the nuclear shield, caused by a series of unanswered escalations of violence from the West, cannot but give rise to sad thoughts. Now we can only assume that nuclear weapons are saving Russia from a repeat of the 1941 catastrophe. And nothing more. But thanks for that, although, of course, we hoped for more.

Over the last couple of years, as in 1941-1945, we have once again remembered the strategic depth of our country. Previously, it allowed us to lead enemy troops further to the east, actively maneuvering in retreat, and then finish off the exhausted enemy. At present, the gigantic size of Russia makes the lion's share of military-industrial complex facilities simply inaccessible. The Armed Forces of Ukraine simply do not have the physical capacity to disarm Russia sequentially or in parallel. As does the NATO bloc, by the way.

A domestic military-industrial complex is a guarantor of sovereignty. This seemingly self-evident truth has long been clear to Russians, but not to everyone in the West. NATO countries trust too much in weapons from the US and paramilitary services, such as external satellite monitoring. Washington, without the slightest embarrassment, takes away air defense missiles from the Kyiv regime and limits access to intelligence information. Where are the guarantees that this will not happen again to members of the alliance?


Let's move from military-political planning to the purely military sector. Here the situation is a little different - there is no hope for serious changes. First of all, because it is very expensive. A small historical excursion. Only two wars in the 20th-21st centuries caused serious changes in military construction. During the First World War, the world saw Tanks, mass combat aviation and a whole bunch of other innovations. The Second World War, although more deadly, brought somewhat fewer innovations, but became a logical continuation of the technical history of WWI. The tank, for example, became the ideal weapon of murder and destruction during WWII.

What is the point of this digression? The point is that the SVO has not grown to the scale of a global conflict, requiring the industry of most of the participating countries to be transferred to war footing. And if the rear services operate according to peacetime laws, then what kind of large-scale and, most importantly, qualitatively new rearmament can we talk about?

For example, let's look at the history of the T-34 development. During the war, its design was influenced by several factors at once. The tank had to be produced at factories evacuated to the Urals and beyond the Urals; it had to be very technologically advanced in order to quickly saturate the front; it had to take into account the constant shortage of alloying elements and the low qualifications of assemblers. And the Nazis also increased the thickness of the armor and the caliber of anti-tank guns. All this caused the rapid evolution of the T-34 during the war, on the basis of which the T-44, T-55 and T-62 were born.

And what is a stress factor for a tank now? Only FPV drones. Combat vehicles cope with all other threats no better and no worse than they did before. In the words of an evolutionist, we can say that the selection pressure on armored vehicles is not at all what it was 80 years ago. Therefore, there is no point in hoping for the emergence of some assault units on a fundamentally new technical base, aimed at breaking through the defense. If they do appear, it is possible that in the next war they will share the fate of the domestic series of BMPs, adapted to a completely different conflict than the one currently unfolding in Ukraine.

As for the fate of tanks in the war, extreme decisions are also very controversial. For example, the idea of ​​exhausting oneself on the battlefield. As soon as the SVO ends (of course, with Russia's victory), no one will remember that tanks have been operating mainly from closed firing positions in recent years. Everything will go along the path of optimization and, where possible, simplification. Let's remember the legacy of World War II again. From the triune concept of "light, medium and heavy tank" in the end, only one remained - the main combat one. In some places they continued to play with light tanks, but this was not essential.

A certain replacement was the Soviet idea with the birth of the BMP, the combat potential of which is still disputed. Based on the fact that history teaches no one anything, forgive the pun, we can forget about oblivion of tanks. They will remain in service largely because their disbandment and the creation of something new will cost astronomical money with a poorly predictable outcome. Surely the military-political leadership will not initiate a new conflict to test the effectiveness of the decisions taken?

The forecast for the future of the Russian Army has long been made by the military-political leadership of Russia. There will be no revolution - an extensive path of development has been chosen, aimed at increasing the number of the Armed Forces. Even with the existing technological chains of weapons production, this will require hundreds of billions. And if we accept qualitatively new models of weapons, sharpened for the SVO, Bolivar, as they say, will not be able to handle so many.
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  1. +7
    5 July 2025 04: 06
    Probably, we should think not only about pinpoint strikes on targets in the enemy’s strategic rear with the aim of forcing him to capitulate or change his political regime, or force him to negotiate, as the Russian Federation is doing now, but about concentrating the majority of all weapons on the most important (several most important) area to suppress the enemy’s defense in order to ensure the further advance of ground forces.

    Without such strikes, overall victory in modern warfare seems unlikely.
    1. +3
      5 July 2025 04: 56
      How to focus without attracting attention and how to explain later that losing several million people made sense?! This is a civil war of a higher level. Approximately what happened from 1918 to 2025 approximately. The beginning is clear, I don’t remember the end exactly. Transnistria, Chechnya, Georgia, Kazakhstan - it’s all the same. The level of use of weapons is simply increased in Ukraine. It’s difficult to explain everything and put it on the shelves, and you won’t understand it anyway. I haven’t seen a normal analysis in any article - everywhere they mention some arguments and facts, forgetting about others. It’s too difficult to explain everything in the short articles that are written here. Even the largest in volume of those read here does not give a complete view of the problem described.
      1. +29
        5 July 2025 08: 07
        Quote: Victor Alien
        How to focus without attracting attention and how to explain later that losing several million people made sense?!

        That's the catch, one-time losses are perceived much more acutely than those spread out over time. That's why the tactics of slow "grinding" were chosen. But in fact, we will lose as much as during a breakthrough, but over a longer period of time.
        Is time working for us or against us? In my opinion, we should hurry up before the Western military-industrial complex gets going. Delaying the SVO will not lead to anything good.
        1. +10
          5 July 2025 09: 30
          I agree. But our agreement means little.
        2. +8
          5 July 2025 10: 11
          In fact, we will lose the same amount as during a breakthrough, but over a longer period of time.

          However, the "grinding" tactic will lead to the fact that it will be impossible to inflict a strategic defeat on the enemy, and the bet on the independent collapse of the Ukrainian state is most likely a mistake.
          As for "What will teach ...", then most likely it should teach the Ministry of Defense to promptly perceive innovations and trends in military affairs. In this regard, there is no point in keeping old generals as a reserve in the relevant departments of the Ministry of Defense, since this ruins the future of the army.
          1. +7
            5 July 2025 11: 53
            Quote: Alexey Lantukh
            As for "What will teach ...", it should most likely teach the Ministry of Defense to promptly perceive innovations and trends in military affairs. In this regard, there is no point in keeping old generals as a reserve in the relevant departments of the Ministry of Defense, since this ruins the future of the army.
            As Chancellor Gorchakov said: “The destruction is not in the closets, the destruction is in the heads.”
            Those in charge in the Ministry of Defense do not want to notice what is happening in the world and concentrate their attention, aka resources, on hang out nicely.
            The breakthrough of civilian technologies in military affairs has significantly complicated ground operations
            - all this didn’t happen in 22, the term off the shelf technology appeared more than three decades ago.
            There is a theory that there are no right or wrong decisions; there are decisions that work, and there are those that do not produce results. It seems that the MO ne srabatyvaet
            1. +2
              7 July 2025 05: 15
              Quote: Pete Mitchell
              As Chancellor Gorchakov said: “The destruction is not in the closets, the destruction is in the heads.”
              Those in charge in the Ministry of Defense do not want to notice what is happening in the world and concentrate their attention, aka resources, on having a nice party.

              It is also noticeable from the author in the article.
              The devaluation of the nuclear shield, caused by a series of unanswered escalations of violence on the part of the West, cannot but give rise to sad thoughts.

              That is, the West is irresponsible and fears nothing, and it is not the Russian leadership that has been throwing around empty admonitions and "red lines"...
              1. +1
                7 July 2025 10: 39
                In fact, there is no devaluation of the nuclear shield. On the contrary, over the past few years (by the way, in light of the enraged West and its Europe), Russia has developed hypersonic maneuvering carriers of medium-range nuclear weapons. The so-called "Eurostrategic". "Tsirkon", "Iskander-1000" (1200 - 1300 km with a nuclear warhead) and of course "Oreshnik" (6 nuclear warheads with a capacity of 600 kt at a range of 5500 km+, or 36 nuclear warheads with a capacity of up to 150 kt at a shorter range). But in addition to their appearance, there should be enough of them, they should be deployed, and their combat crews trained and equipped with everything necessary. So the "Nuclear Shield" is being strengthened and improved. But the Ground Forces were neglected and completely inappropriately numbered until 2022...they were almost non-existent. War is a good teacher...even if the students are stubborn blockheads or lazy sybarites...As a result, the Russian Ground Army is being created almost from scratch already during the Second World War. This is not an excuse for sybarites and blockheads, it is a statement of fact.
                How is it now?
                Sybarites in the field, blockheads have been combed and thinned out, rotations have been carried out. They have now been trained by the war, but they learn the material... differently. Because sybarites are in the field and their life is still from holiday to holiday.
                Well, it should be understood that the VSO is only a special case and a component of the sluggishly ongoing (for now) TMV. In 2014, it was already underway. There is an opinion that its beginning was proclaimed by their Pope in 2012.
                And since the SVO is a special case of TMV, it must be perceived in this context.
                When Stalin was delaying the start of the war with Germany, WWII was already in full swing. And the winner was the one who, as in WWI, entered the war last.
                Quote: Vladimir_2U
                That is, the West is irresponsible and is not afraid of anything.

                Zombies, as a rule, are not afraid of anything because they no longer have their own will or their own consciousness, but are controlled from the outside from a single server.
        3. +7
          5 July 2025 11: 44
          Quote: MBRBS
          Is time working for us or against us? In my opinion, we should hurry up before the Western military-industrial complex gets going. Delaying the SVO will not lead to anything good.


          True... there is another aspect that is not given much attention in our country, and that is new technologies and AI in the US.

          It is obvious that the combination of technology with AI will give a powerful boost to the US Armed Forces, huge data centers for storing and processing information are already being built, AI will be perfected and all this will be combined into a single network, where the speed of decision-making and processing will be performed by the program, network-centric warfare will manifest itself in full). The same swarms of drones will be controlled by AI, find targets and perform the assigned task. Robotics in the military sphere can give a huge leap forward, etc.

          And how, against this backdrop, will our 60-70 year old generals be able to resist a machine that will be faster/smarter than them? I can't imagine. For now, we have a window of opportunity... but the longer the conflict goes on, the more risks will arise.
        4. +1
          5 July 2025 13: 47
          I completely agree with the last phrase. But the promotion of the Western military-industrial complex will not add anything special to the Ukrainian Armed Forces. In addition to weapons, soldiers are needed to continue the war. Their number in Ukraine is almost finite. Sending a limited contingent of Western "volunteers" to Ukraine will also not bring about a significant change in the course of the war. And sending regular units carries a huge risk for Western countries of a war that will be completely different from what is happening now in Ukraine. Western countries are foreign lands for us, which no one will spare. The Americans will also have no time for Europe. Moreover, the Europeans will get involved in the conflict on their own initiative. The Americans' main problem is China and, to a lesser extent, the Middle East. By introducing regular troops into Ukraine (a non-NATO country), European countries themselves will show aggression and a retaliatory strike against them will be entirely justified from both a moral and legal point of view. And the application of Article 5 of the NATO Charter will be highly controversial. Well, they will consider our retaliatory strike against a particularly brazen European NATO country as "an attack on everyone". And what next according to the NATO Charter? And then - consultations. Not a single unconditional military response, but consultations.
        5. +2
          6 July 2025 07: 16
          Are you trying to outplay the Western military-industrial complex? Nooooo. :)
      2. 0
        5 July 2025 17: 47
        Quote: Victor Alien
        How to focus without attracting attention and how to explain later that losing several million people made sense?! This is a civil war of a higher level. Approximately what happened from 1918 to 2025 approximately. The beginning is clear, I don’t remember the end exactly. Transnistria, Chechnya, Georgia, Kazakhstan - it’s all the same. The level of use of weapons is simply increased in Ukraine. It’s difficult to explain everything and put it on the shelves, and you won’t understand it anyway. I haven’t seen a normal analysis in any article - everywhere they mention some arguments and facts, forgetting about others. It’s too difficult to explain everything in the short articles that are written here. Even the largest in volume of those read here does not give a complete view of the problem described.

        I agree with you in some ways.
        The SVO is not yet complete, and I have never seen any clear conclusions regarding its implementation.
        Nowadays wars are not called ao wars, so as not to be called aggressors. Israel's "wars" against the Gaza Strip, Lebanon, Syria, Iran cannot be compared with the SVO, which is more like a civil war. The Russian Armed Forces can easily raze Kyiv, Chernigov and other large cities to the ground, destroy the entire infrastructure, kill millions of Ukrainian civilians, which will force Ukraine to capitulate and the population to flee the war to Europe. But our army does not do this, because the Ukrainians are a fraternal people (many Russians have fooled, pan-headed, hoarse-faced relatives living there), many Russian oligarchs have assets in Ukraine (shares in factories, mines, power plants, oil refineries, etc.).
        1. +3
          5 July 2025 21: 54
          Borodach, you are right of course when talking about relatives, friends, etc. But it's time to understand a simple thing - while we feel sorry for them, they will destroy us. They even launched a "hazelnut" with blanks.. And what?.. What was the result?.. Did the forelocks run away from the Dnepropetrovsk region?... And in my opinion - they don't care..
      3. +1
        6 July 2025 01: 53
        How to focus without attracting attention
        Apparently, we need to concentrate wisely, without involving Defense Ministry officials with their relatives in the US in the operations? Let me guess - you don't even have the idea that drone operators and air strikes can be concentrated? That only tanks can be transported on open platforms. Transporting mock-ups elsewhere is cheating and dishonorable! Before a strike, only hitting logistics in the rear is not our method, it is better to send missiles to some hangar with five armored vehicles inside. Preparing an attack at night, distributing thermal imagers to everyone - this is generally beyond rudeness, attacking a sleeping enemy! Therefore, with such laws of honor on the part of tank biathlon masters, operations are simply not developed, otherwise some kind of cauldron will suddenly occur and the enemy's front will collapse!
    2. -3
      6 July 2025 00: 28
      Perhaps we should think about more than just pinpoint strikes on targets in the enemy's strategic rear

      Just grind up the entire industry and leave the energy sector alone. Forget about the energy sector altogether and don't even look at it. Because energy without powerful industrial consumers is just a waste of time. The civil sector consumes incomparably less and not as evenly as the industrial sector, and it doesn't bring in as much money. It's dangerous for a nuclear power plant to operate at an uneven load, and it's generally disastrous when idle. If a fission reaction has started, there's no way to stop it, only to slow it down, which is expensive and dangerous. Stopping a nuclear power plant's reactor is also a long and not so simple procedure. An idle nuclear power plant is incredibly expensive. They pay for themselves when they work, otherwise it's very, very expensive.
      Industry provides employment, income to citizens and the products themselves, which are often military. If you destroy industry, without touching energy at all (let people have fun with the light), not only will they lose their means of production, but they will also get a lot of unemployed people. We know from our own example how quickly our people can degrade from idleness, especially in comfortable conditions (with light and the Internet).
      Accordingly, there is a danger that this specialist will be quickly busified, but as the recent attack on the TCC buildings showed, many in Ukraine are only FOR! Some are even ready to donate for drones, just so that these man-eating places are bombed. There are all the prerequisites that the fight against the TCC will be carried out with the active help of the local population, just throw out a call. In addition, by destroying the TCC buildings, the possibility of replenishing manpower is complicated.
      Therefore, as far as possible, all industry and TCC.
  2. +9
    5 July 2025 04: 46
    Quote: Yevgeny Fedorov
    The Second World War, although more deadly, brought somewhat fewer innovations.
    How is it less? And the advent of missiles? And nuclear weapons, which completely changed the view of future war? Well, and some smaller things, turbojet engines, radar and much more.
    1. +24
      5 July 2025 05: 48
      So the author is a biologist. He just gets into any topic, that's why he often points his finger at the sky. Although his style is not bad, I say as a professional editor. But the factuality in each article sags. Fact-checking (to use a new-fangled phrase) is clearly not his thing. But he doesn't need it: a propagandist is obvious to the naked eye. Although he is not as crazy as Staver, and even more so, say, Solovyov, but there is no limit to perfection.
  3. +25
    5 July 2025 04: 50
    It is too early to sum up the results of the SVO. But so far we can only make one indisputable conclusion: this is a "fixed agreement". And not somewhere in Istanbul or Minsk, but somewhere "under the carpet" and between Russian, Ukrainian oligarchs and their Western masters. Otherwise, there is no way to explain the choice of targets for attacks and their results. Well, everyone can make the rest of the conclusions themselves.
    1. +24
      5 July 2025 06: 21
      And now we have a lot under the carpet. SVO under the carpet, Azerbaijan also went under the carpet. Notice how quiet it has become, but nothing has ended yet. Everyone is messing around under this carpet.... And so on.
      1. 0
        5 July 2025 08: 38
        under the carpet.....
        There was ONE story online that Aliyev was apologizing. ??? It's not clear. After all the enraged screams of his entourage
  4. +18
    5 July 2025 05: 13
    I can’t understand why there is some kind of continuation of justification for the sluggish unpaid labor force?
    The forecast regarding the future of the Russian Army has long been made by the military-political leadership of Russia. There will be no revolution - an extensive path of development has been chosen, aimed at increasing the number of Armed Forces.

    It would indeed be wonderful if the increase in the number of the Armed Forces was faster than its reduction due to combat and medical losses, as well as the general reduction in the population. I constantly have questions about the number of Russian prisoners of war, the number of which is not decreasing. How does this happen if the Ukrainian Armed Forces are in a state of "half-defeat"?
    This is even with the existing technological chains of weapons production will require hundreds of billions. And if we adopt qualitatively new models of weapons, tailored for the SVO, Bolivar, as they say, will not be able to handle so many.

    Our government is headed by Mr. Mishustin - a politician, economist, former deputy minister of taxes and duties... Shouldn't he know how to effectively collect taxes or is he continuing to wait for orders from the non-economist Putin?
    This is the question of questions. In a country whose GDP is higher than any European country, where dollar billionaires and millionaires are like dogs, there is a shortage of billions of rubles... Oxymoron...
    I love to listen to fairy tales, it’s a pity that there are “too many” of them today...
    1. +2
      5 July 2025 07: 21
      Quote: ROSS 42
      The GDP of which is higher than any European country, where dollar billionaires and millionaires, like uncut dogs, are lacking billions of rubles... Oxymoron...

      And all because they dance like in Versailles. Minuet, polonaise. All with bows and squats. And it should be like in the film "Parkhomenko", when the then "elite" was gathered in the opera house, and Batka Bogun pulled a machine gun onto the stage and said with a "warning" ... and immediately the money was found. We can also recall the old slogan "Everything for the front, everything for victory" and make public who contributed and how much, so that it becomes fashionable to contribute a couple of tens of millions for our army.
      1. +5
        5 July 2025 08: 45
        so that it would become fashionable to introduce ....

        Once I read an article in the newspaper ZAVTRA about 2 entrepreneurs who help SVO (invent, implement, send) But do not advertise themselves. I thought ---- "and why‽‽" hi
        1. -2
          6 July 2025 02: 04
          Yes, I read praise for Sobchak that she organized a collection for the relocation of several hundred families from Belgorod. She collected eight million. Like if I collected a ruble from my friends and started to play the hero, about the same amount of money she spent on a day. Because - wow, someone from the top remembered the people! But she could have sent money to bitches and slandered the country from Israel, like people from her circle! Amazing heroism! But when some granny knits socks or camouflage nets for soldiers - well, that's the norm for grannies these days, the people have the opposite ideas
    2. +2
      5 July 2025 15: 40
      In a country whose GDP is higher than any European country, where dollar billionaires and millionaires are as numerous as dogs, there is a shortage of billions of rubles... An oxymoron...

      A ruble is not a kilogram of meat, not a rabbit skin, and not a howitzer shell. If the number of rubles is increased by 2 times at once, the quantity of goods will definitely not increase, not even by 2 times, let alone XNUMX times. Every ruble must be backed by justified labor costs in the necessary products, whether for people or for the war. Otherwise, prices will rise.
      1. +1
        6 July 2025 02: 08
        The appearance of rubles in one industry and their disappearance in another leads to the flow of people between industries. We have a huge number of people who are wasting their time on meaningless work, and even quite smart people flow there, since they pay more there. In the US, during the mobilization, they simply closed down all civilian automobile manufacturing, it became purely military. All kinds of restaurants were closed, and waitresses went to shipyards to rivet ships, and they rivet an unprecedented number of them.
  5. +19
    5 July 2025 05: 14
    The author clearly does not listen to the statement of the guarantor, in particular the reduction of defense spending. Maybe he is right... About "of course, Russia's victory? Author, what is Victory for us? And is it achievable at all, with such an approach to the SVO? I think it is unachievable. Because the preservation of statehood in the VNA is guaranteed by the guarantor-chess player himself
    1. man
      +4
      5 July 2025 11: 53
      Quote from: dmi.pris1
      The author clearly does not listen to the statement of the guarantor, in particular the reduction of defense spending. Maybe he is right... About "of course, Russia's victory? Author, what is Victory for us? And is it achievable at all, with such an approach to the SVO? I think it is unachievable. Because the preservation of statehood in the VNA is guaranteed by the guarantor-chess player himself

      And you clearly don't watch enough TV and don't listen to our propagandists, otherwise you would know that we have almost won, several times and every day.... with a break for the weekend, apparently, during which we negotiate with Trump about opening a 2nd front to finally finish off the damned Ukrainians, who stubbornly pretend that they don't know about their defeat
  6. -6
    5 July 2025 05: 45
    Not using nuclear weapons in Ukraine does not mean not using them in the Czech Republic or Poland, for one reason only - there are no Russians there. True, not with the current liberal lawyer.
    1. +6
      5 July 2025 05: 58
      I agree, but not with a liberal "grandmaster".. Korchnoi 2.0.. Only the situation and military technologies have changed. The nuclear potential in the country itself is under threat. And the enemies see that this entire economy can be taken out of the game with one massive, carefully worked out blow. With conventional weapons.
      1. -5
        5 July 2025 07: 48
        "We don't need a world in which there is no Russia."
        V.V.Putin

        Quote: igorra
        True, not with the current liberal lawyer.
        Quote from: dmi.pris1
        I agree, but not with a liberal "grandmaster"

        What actions did Putin take that convinced you that he would not give the order to use nuclear weapons?

        ps
        Quote from: dmi.pris1
        To which (the loss in the Cold War) your Kremlin idol also had a hand (forgetting about the oath).

        1. I put the word "cold war" in quotation marks - we didn't lose, we were betrayed.

        2. Putin was a slob during the times of Khrushchev and Brezhnev, and served in the GDR during the times of the hunchback. The Trotskyist leadership of the country did everything to destroy the USSR.

        In the presidential elections of 1996, Trotskyist Zyuganov won, but he refused the victory and gave it to Vlasovite Yeltsin, thus, just as in 1917 the Trotskyists hid behind the backs of the Bolsheviks, in 1996 they hid behind the backs of the Vlasovites. Just as the Trotskyists then committed lawlessness and now they blame the Bolsheviks for everything, so in the future the Trotskyists, committing lawlessness today, will blame everything on the Vlasovites...

        3. Since you never bothered to read the oath, but refer to it every time to accuse someone of something, I will quote from it:
        "... I'm always ready by order of the Soviet Government to come to the defense of my homeland...".
        Maybe right now you will feel like getting to know it.
        1. +2
          5 July 2025 07: 50
          Ah...Well of course, there was no order...As well as soyaesti.
          1. -6
            5 July 2025 07: 51
            The essence of Russian civilization is Bolshevism.

            Quote from: dmi.pris1
            Ah...Well of course, there was no order...As well as soyaesti.

            You are confusing the army with a collective farm. And by the way, I didn't see any crowds of civilians near military registration and enlistment offices, who would cleanse that government with weapons in their hands.

            Did you serve or dodge it, or are you not old enough yet?
            1. +4
              5 July 2025 08: 09
              Judging by your comments, you haven't grown up yet. And I gave mine to the Soviet Motherland in the early 80s... Yes
              1. -5
                5 July 2025 08: 32
                The essence of Russian civilization is Bolshevism.

                Quote from: dmi.pris1
                And I gave mine to the Soviet Motherland in the early 80s...

                He gave it in such a way that he forgot his oath... Getting personal is unnecessary.
                You still haven't answered the question, I repeat:

                What actions did Putin take that convinced you that he would not give the order to use nuclear weapons?
                1. +4
                  5 July 2025 09: 22
                  Actions to repel aggression in the Kursk region. All..
                  1. -5
                    5 July 2025 10: 06
                    Glory to the Russian soldier! Glory to Russian weapons!! Glory to our president!!!

                    Quote from: dmi.pris1
                    Actions to repel aggression in the Kursk region. All..

                    Did you repel the aggression? You did! That's a fact.

                    If Putin was afraid of something, he would not have annexed Crimea or Donbass to Russia, and certainly would not have started a NWO with the West in the vast expanses of Ukraine.

                    It is we in Ukraine who fight "gently".
                    If the West sticks its nose in, it will get it up to its tonsils.
                    1. +2
                      5 July 2025 21: 53
                      Will the West show up? Stubborn Boris, the West practically has one foot on the territory of the former Ukrainian SSR. And stop talking nonsense, you're sick of it.
        2. +8
          5 July 2025 11: 28
          Quote: Boris55
          What actions did Putin take that convinced you that he would not give the order to use nuclear weapons?

          The absence of a command to strike at decision-making centers with conventional (for now) weapons, so that the lousy Nazi gang would not even gather and would not even dare to hatch plans to destroy Russia...
          At least he could have given the order to destroy the Kyiv elite - it's still illegitimate...
          1. 0
            6 July 2025 07: 39
            The essence of Russian civilization is Bolshevism.

            Quote: ROSS 42
            At least he gave the order to destroy the Kyiv elite - anyway, it is not legitimate...

            1). If Stalin had given the command to destroy the Hitlerite elite, and such proposals were made and people were ready, then there would not have been Nuremberg.
            2) All those who do not manage to escape should be tried in Donetsk and hanged in the square there.
            3). There is no need to make posthumous martyrs and heroes out of scoundrels. Only their trial will reveal their entire vile essence.
            1. -3
              6 July 2025 09: 00
              So that's why they released the Azov leaders from captivity? So that they could be judged after the war? What a clever move.
    2. +1
      5 July 2025 15: 43
      Non-use of nuclear weapons in Ukraine does not mean non-use in the Czech Republic or Poland

      Well, we are not fighting with NATO countries yet. And I don't think we will be the first to start. But we are fighting with Ukraine and we may well use tactical nuclear weapons.
  7. +5
    5 July 2025 06: 12
    What the conflict in Ukraine will teach and what it will not teach

    Yes, everything will remain the same.
    Again, there were so many conflicts (Syria, N.Karabakh), but our generals did not study them.
    The invasion of Ukraine showed that our General Staff and intelligence sat like a stone after the Maidan - the thought was about war, but they did not work and did not prepare, which subsequently the whole world saw the first week of the Central Military District and what the consequences were.
    We need generals with brains, not jelly.
    Plus, the SVO showed what kind of generals there are in the Ministry of Defense.
    1. +5
      5 July 2025 07: 00
      The company of reconnaissance UAVs in motorized rifle brigades appeared in 2013 according to Gerasimov's plan. So the experience of local wars was not in vain. The SVO as a military-police operation is the idea of ​​our guarantor. He still considers Ukraine and us to be one people.
    2. +1
      5 July 2025 09: 45
      And they are not only like that there, they are the same in the Ministry of Internal Affairs and the Ministry of Emergency Situations and in the civil ministries. With cancer, it cannot be that the body is sick only in parts.
  8. +10
    5 July 2025 06: 29
    The author completely forgot about the "bad dancer" who is always hampered by something. Using the same Iran as an example - there is a traitor on top of a traitor, a corrupt person on top of a corrupt person in the upper circles. That is why the Israeli special services feel so at ease. And such a vertical of power, such close associates in power are formed by the decision-makers there. The system-s...
    1. 0
      7 July 2025 09: 58
      yeah, the whole world is traitors! in Iran, in Russia and everywhere!
      You were left alone, all of D'Artagnan in white, among the sodomites! ))
  9. -1
    5 July 2025 07: 01
    Nuclear weapons are now only the king's last resort when the state is literally crumbling before our eyes. The devaluation of the nuclear shield, caused by a series of unanswered escalations of violence from the West, cannot but give rise to sad thoughts.


    I cannot agree with this conclusion. Ukrainian history has its own specifics - firstly, the influence of politics on this conflict is very strong. If the military had solved it from the very beginning, many things could have been prevented. But, as we know, war is too serious a matter to be entrusted to the military. Secondly, we are fighting against the combined potential of NATO, doing this on our own land, and Ukraine is our land and our people, albeit fooled, and in some places not ours at all. Understanding this factor or, on the contrary, not understanding it greatly influences the conflict. What prevented the main industrial centers of Ukraine, logistics points (including by nuclear strike) from being wiped off the face of the earth and the leadership of Ukraine eliminated? Political decisions and the factors that I described above.
    The military's hands were tied in many areas, so the result is not quite what we would like. Plus a large number of attempts to reach an agreement, including some that were not unsuccessful. But in the end, the British forced the Ukrainians to commit suicide, which means that their efforts were wasted in this direction. But we can only say this objectively now. We do not have such limiting factors in relation to other countries. If the Finns, Swedes or Poles with the Balts decide to commit suicide and declare war on Russia, then we must act simply: give the Russian population no more than 48 hours to evacuate from the Baltics and Finland, and the main industrial centers must be wiped off the face of the earth. As if they never existed. The forces and means are available: tactical nuclear weapons are now more powerful than the atomic weapons used by the Americans in Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
  10. +9
    5 July 2025 07: 48
    What the conflict in Ukraine will teach and what it will not teach

    The author digs deep, the first, second world wars, the Arab-Israeli conflict, which has been going on for about 70 years, etc., but there is no need to dig there.. What did the Chechen wars teach? Which ended, just recently? Someone will say this is different, no, not different, the same thing, that the SVO lasted not a year or two or three, but a long time, almost an entire generation grew up on them, and ended in a deal. Yes, yes, a deal. The coals of separatism are smoldering there. Not everything under the moon lasts forever, and the link with the Kadyrov clan is not eternal, will this link disappear? The deal will end. What did the CTO teach us? Nothing. Only during the CTO period, the authorities tried to come to an agreement several times, as was the case during the CTO. They tell us: The enemy will be defeated, victory will be ours. Yeah. But in reality, the authorities live with the thought of how to come to an agreement. So that they can climb a Christmas tree and pick apples on it. After Gostomel, it was clear that the CTO was serious and for a long time and it is unknown how it will end. Let me remind optimists that only five countries voted against the UN resolution recognizing Russia as an aggressor, and among them there were no members of BRICS, SCO, or ASEC, but only one member of the CIS and CSTO and a member of the Union State rolled into one. The question is, where did the money go that was allocated for a long time to work with the pro-Russian part of the population of Ukraine? Or was it not allocated at all? And the US only needed 5 billion for this and cookies baked in the embassy. The Russian embassy probably baked some too, but apparently they ate them themselves. So what lessons should be learned?
    1. man
      +2
      5 July 2025 12: 14
      The question is, where did the money go that was allocated for a long time to work with the pro-Russian part of the population of Ukraine? And the US had enough 5 billion for this and cookies baked in the embassy. In the Russian embassy, ​​they probably baked them too, but apparently they ate them themselves. So what lessons should be learned?
      Well, you are so curious... smile Do you know how much it costs to build a bakery? And the delivery of flour and other ingredients? What is our inflation rate, which the Central Bank is fighting? And you ask some awkward questions... which you answer yourself laughing
    2. +3
      6 July 2025 02: 17
      The question is, where did the money go that was allocated for a long time to work with the pro-Russian part of the population of Ukraine?
      and where did the money go that went to Rosmolodezh from the very beginning of the 2000s? The main one there was Yakemenko. He now lives in the West and gives characteristic interviews. He gave money to young bloggers through the "thank you, Eva" system, for some reason many of these bloggers are now abroad and are strongly against SVO. And we can continue - where is Dvorkovich? Illarionov? Kasyanov? Nevzorov, the trusted person in the presidential elections?
  11. +1
    5 July 2025 08: 00
    Quote: Author
    There will be no revolution - an extensive path of development has been chosen, aimed at increase in the number of armed forces. This is even with the existing technological chains of weapons production will require hundreds of billions.

    That is why there will be no increase in the number of armed forces (over a million)! Putin has clearly spoken about reducing military spending! And this reduction will begin right now, without waiting for the end of the Second World War. It is understandable - money is needed to restore new territories, and the National Welfare Fund piggy bank is emptying not by the day, but by the hour.
  12. +5
    5 July 2025 08: 24
    There can be no talk of any military rails in most countries. The largest part of the GDP is the sphere of "helpful hares", and not production! For a long time, the main occupation of the Ministry of Defense was "utilization of surplus military equipment", about which there are a lot of publications. Moreover, the scale of this man-made Tsushima is simply amazing, and all at our own expense ... That is why, for example, such a large number of T62s have been preserved - because under Brezhnev they were driven into the Trans-Baikal steppes, and tenders for their disposal in the 2s and XNUMXs turned out to be of no use to businessmen, but other types of equipment turned out to be closer and therefore their fate is unenviable. Regarding the place of the tank on the battlefield - any other types of armored vehicles can be dismantled by fire from the MXNUMX Browning or Utes, therefore the tank was and is the most protected object on the battlefield, and until mass-produced flying backpacks and machines are invented, the tank will be the King in the Field
    1. -1
      5 July 2025 11: 05
      So, in itself, it has long been just a target, as it was not protected with the advent of precision missiles and drones.
  13. -3
    5 July 2025 08: 32
    To the fact that the SVO has not grown to the scale of a global conflict, requiring the transfer of industry of most of the participating countries to military rails.// Well, yes, that is why Europe, the USA and NATO are stuffing the Ukrainian Armed Forces with weapons. For Russia, it has not yet grown up because the Kremlin avoids concentrating forces to achieve the defeat of the Ukrainian Armed Forces. The liberals do not have such a task. They want to preserve Ukraine and give it to Europe, as the West wants.
    1. -3
      5 July 2025 08: 37
      Quote: Alexander Odintsov
      They want to save Ukraine and give it to Europe as the West wants.

      Justify. IMHO it's nonsense.
  14. -5
    5 July 2025 08: 41
    There is a Russian spirit here, there is a smell of Russia here...

    Quote: E. Fedorov
    ...There will be no revolution - an extensive path of development has been chosen, aimed at increasing the number of Armed Forces.
    Quote: MBRBS
    That is why there will be no increase in the number of armed forces ( over a million) it won't happen!

    Already.
    With the arrival of Putin, the army of 200 thousand people at the beginning of the century, increased to two millionAlmost 90% of the troops receive the latest weapons, including those with improved characteristics based on the experience of the SVO.
    1. +11
      5 July 2025 09: 56
      I can't stop laughing. Have you even seen who's joining the army these days in pursuit of millions in signing bonuses?
      You can't look at the latest weapons without tears either. And the fact that everything, from communications to drones and electronic warfare, has to be bought at your own expense or waited for from volunteers, is that such a trifle? Take off your thick rose-colored glasses already.
      1. -9
        5 July 2025 10: 02
        Glory to the Russian soldier! Glory to Russian weapons!! Glory to our president!!!

        Quote: Dmitry_Nemets
        Have you even seen who is joining the army these days?

        Yes, I saw them - patriots of their homeland, for whom this word is not an empty sound.

        Quote: Dmitry_Nemets
        You can't look at the latest weapons without tears either.

        Our soldier and our weapons are smashing the Western army in Ukraine, with all its Western weapons, on all fronts. This is a fact, not your conjectures and fictions.
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        5 July 2025 22: 06
        And who do you think is going into the army now, as they put it in pursuit of a cash bonus, and what is so funny to you that you can’t stop laughing?
        1. -1
          6 July 2025 08: 57
          Let me ask you. Do you have any friends on your own? If so, ask them what kind of replenishment is coming.
  15. +1
    5 July 2025 08: 48
    land operations against a regular army, even against a clearly weak enemy, are becoming increasingly risky

    Well, let's figure out how the SVO and the Israeli operation against Gaza are similar?

    1. In both cases the offensive is being carried out in extremely urbanized areas.
    2. In both places the enemy’s defenses were prepared for years, full of fortified areas.
    3. In both places they try not to harass the civilian population too much.
    4. In both cases the stated goals are more political than military.
    5. In both places, military operations are conducted with great regard for the supposed world public opinion.
    6. Both are much more sensitive to one-time losses rather than general ones.
    7. In both places, constant attempts are being made to solve problems through some kind of negotiations, and not through defeat.
    8. In both cases, military considerations are sacrificed to negotiations.

    Well - and so on. Why both we and the Jews act in this way is a separate question, but - I don't think that these two operations are worth drawing conclusions about the possible nature of the coming world war. Because if it does strike - the participants will clearly not limit themselves to the above factors, and everything will proceed completely differently...
  16. +12
    5 July 2025 09: 57
    Well, I'll once again endure anti-Semitic attacks and another decrease in my "social rating" here. laughing but, leaving Hamas and Gaza aside, in Iran Israel washed away all of the Russian Federation's military and intelligence agencies with their red-brown lines, showing what kind of intelligence and saboteurs there should be and how to fight. Yes
    1. -2
      5 July 2025 11: 10
      Quote from AdAstra
      in Iran Israel washed away all the RF VPR with their red-brown lines

      Well, the US is behind Israel. And without their help, it would be bad for Israel this time. Let me remind you that the US is definitely not behind the Russian Federation, they are rather against it. Yes laughing

      Quote from AdAstra
      showing what intelligence and saboteurs should be like and how to fight

      Hmm... there wasn't even a war there, just some distant jabs... that ended, as they like to say here, in a deal. And it seems like everyone won, and everyone understands that nothing ended there.

      Ninada so fight No. laughing
    2. +1
      5 July 2025 11: 44
      Quote from AdAstra
      Well, I'll once again endure anti-Semitic attacks and another decrease in my "social rating" here.

      The fact that you are not a field marshal is one of these disgusting Judeophobic attacks. If I had my way, I would give you a thousand pluses. Sorry, laziness is stronger than me, I gave one.
      . , in Iran, Israel washed away all the Russian Federation's military and intelligence agencies with their red-brown lines, showing what kind of intelligence and saboteurs should be and how to fight.

      Because God's chosen ones are natural-born warriors. Real fighters. People like a lion. If there was a common border, we would have torn Iran into pieces. That's probably why they banned leaving Israel. They were afraid for Iran.

      Special thanks for "washing" us grey-paws. Showed how it should be done. They shot over the fence, got a response, classified the result. Now that's what I call modern warfare. Oh yeah, I heard the States can't keep up with their missiles. Israel's rate of fire is higher.
  17. +5
    5 July 2025 10: 13
    I also remember the moment, before all the events, that I heard more than once that there are high-precision missiles, the enemy will be destroyed from afar, equipment on the ground no longer plays such a key role.
  18. -1
    5 July 2025 10: 21
    The forecast regarding the future of the Russian Army has long been made by the military-political leadership of Russia. There will be no revolution - an extensive path of development has been chosen, aimed at increasing the number of Armed Forces.

    What does this mean? Drones started being shot down with lasers, drones themselves are constantly evolving, hazel appeared...
  19. +5
    5 July 2025 10: 58
    Nuclear weapons are just a tool. The main weapons are will and reason. If they are there, then everything else is secondary. If not, then no nuclear weapons will save, because there is not enough will and determination to use them even under the threat of a complete occupation of the country, especially when there is something to lose abroad (accounts, villas, yachts, golf clubs, families in London and Miami, and the like). The corrupting effect of capital is like this. Capital has no homeland, no honor, no conscience. And it chatters about patriotism exclusively for its own benefit. Therefore, as long as capital rules, nothing good will happen to people.
    1. man
      +1
      5 July 2025 12: 32
      Quote: Evgeny_Sviridenko
      The main weapons are will and reason. If they exist, then everything else is secondary. If not, then no nuclear weapons will save you, because there is not enough will and determination to use them even under the threat of a complete occupation of the country. The corrupting effect of capital is like this. Capital has no homeland, no honor, no conscience. And it chatters about patriotism exclusively for its own benefit. Therefore, as long as capital rules, nothing good will shine for people.

      Golden words! hi
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    1. man
      +6
      5 July 2025 12: 36
      Quote: Dozorny - severa
      Quote: Boris55
      Our soldier and our weapons are smashing the Western army in Ukraine, with all its Western weapons, on all fronts. This is a fact, not your conjectures and fictions.

      Saturday started well for the citizen - if he didn't have a drink in the morning, the day was wasted.

      And I envy him, under capitalism he at least has one working ideal left... there's no point in trying to convince the poor guy...
  22. +7
    5 July 2025 11: 22
    Quote: parusnik
    And the US only needed 5 billion for this and cookies baked in the embassy. The Russian embassy probably baked some too, but apparently they ate them themselves. So what lessons should be learned?

    I don't understand why you are surprised when discussing the position of the residents of Ukraine?
    They see perfectly well everything that is happening in the Russian Federation - the destruction of industry, science, education, Putin's foot soldiers, the import of millions of potential terrorists, the dominance of citizens of one Middle Eastern country - why do they need all this?
  23. +1
    5 July 2025 11: 25
    Quote: Victor Alien
    This is a civil war of a higher level. Approximately what happened from 1918 to 2025.

    Stop fantasizing - in 1918, the working people fought for their freedom with international capital and its Russian puppets, with dark religious fanatics, feudalism on the outskirts, with bloodsuckers inside. In other words, the war was class-based - and what now?
  24. +4
    5 July 2025 11: 29
    Quote: Mele
    He still considers Ukraine and us to be one people.

    No, not a single people, a single flock of sheep for shearing and slaughter, not aware of its class interests!
  25. +5
    5 July 2025 12: 12
    Very bad article.

    A set of slogans from old newspapers and stamps from Ren-TV.

    For example, this part.
    Question: where is the more complete modernization/new versions of equipment that meet all the conditions of the current battlefield.
    The author replies: "...let's go down to the purely military sector. Here the situation is a little different - there is no hope for serious changes. First of all, because it is very expensive. ... The SVO has not grown to the scale of a world conflict, requiring the transfer of industry of most of the participating countries to war footing. And if the rear services operate according to peacetime laws, then what kind of large-scale and, most importantly, qualitatively new rearmament can we talk about? "
    The argument is "below the baseboard", but the conclusion is clear. Well, that is, infantry - ride ON the armor, not under the armor, there will be no Dragoon instead of BMP3; and tankers - do not rely on the APS.

    P.S. The author succeeds only in those articles in which he creatively reinterprets technical information from old sources.
  26. -4
    5 July 2025 14: 38
    First of all, thank you Evgeny for raising this sensitive issue.
    A couple of comments, in my amateur opinion:
    1. The time of land operations has passed. It is a rudiment of military history, the same as the dense formation of spearmen. With snail's pace, stretched communications and the density of fire of the defending side, land operations inevitably slide into positional warfare and the notorious "grinding". The Verdun Meat Grinder is the best illustration. The operations of the future are airmobile with the preliminary seizure of air supremacy with the broadest use of air attack weapons, both manned and unmanned. And in the ground part of the operation, the share of robotic combat vehicles will grow.
    2. The transfer of industry to military rails in modern conditions means the comprehensive development of robotic production and automatic factories for the production of combat equipment under the control of specialists. No super efforts of the people are required, but a high level of technological development and an excess of energy resources are required. So that in the upcoming melee many will have time to wonder where the enemy got this and that, and in such quantities.
  27. 0
    5 July 2025 15: 00
    For the Russian Armed Forces, the immediate steps to achieve a positive result are obvious. It is necessary to get out of the zone of backwardness in the field of modern technologies. Tanks, infantry fighting vehicles, UAVs, etc., relics of the previous technological era, are needed, they will not go anywhere, but they do not determine the situation on the battlefield in the current conflict.
    Reconnaissance systems, target designation in real time, including using space carriers - this is what the RF Armed Forces lack. These systems must be united by modern means of control and communication.
  28. +6
    5 July 2025 16: 24
    these are all, IMHO, just words and words... Something similar has been written more than once.
    Explanatory note. Of which there were thousands...
    Nothing can be changed, so they explain, call, predict...
    then they pretend that they didn't write anything.

    About the main thing - no-no.
    Incompetence. Backlog. Negative selection. Nepotism. Incorrect planning. Global lies. Well, and theft. When just one colonel has 9 billion rubles in cash. Because there was no more room to put it....
    It's easier to blame everything on the West, on Zelensky, on the Ukrainians, Macron, Aliyev, etc.
    than to admit "the beam in your own eye"
  29. +1
    5 July 2025 17: 39
    saw tanks, mass combat aviation and a whole bunch of other innovations. The Second World War, although more deadly, brought somewhat fewer innovations

    cruise and ballistic missiles, jet and stealth aircraft, nuclear weapons themselves and "and a whole bunch of other new things" :)
  30. +2
    5 July 2025 18: 28
    Controversial article.

    1. The resistance put up by the Ukrainian army, which is not the most numerous and equipped, makes one think about the prospects of a modern land war.

    The Ukrainian army is one of the most combat-ready in Europe. There is no need to belittle the enemy. And after an unsuccessful attack in 2022, we had to go on the defensive.

    2. About the evolution of the T-34.
    The T-34 was supposed to be a temporary solution, already in 41 there were plans to switch to the T-34M and T-44 (the first with that name), which were significantly different from the T-34. But it didn't work out. To say that the T-34 became the forefather of the T-44 to the T-62, ... then we must say that the forefather of the entire line of medium tanks was the BT tank, or Christie tank.

    3. It is a mistake to project the experience of the war with Ukraine onto a future war with NATO. A war with NATO will be brutal from the start, no one will feel sorry for the Europeans, and they won't feel sorry for us.
  31. +3
    5 July 2025 19: 44
    Quote from AdAstra
    And they are not only like that there, they are the same in the Ministry of Internal Affairs and the Ministry of Emergency Situations and in the civil ministries. With cancer, it cannot be that the body is sick only in parts.

    There are very few wonderful people.
    I recently contacted the police, this is something.
    Roar, why did you come, what do you want?
    Not very pleasant feelings.
    Although, it should be the other way around.
  32. +4
    5 July 2025 20: 28
    There will be no revolution - an extensive path of development has been chosen, aimed at increasing the number of Armed Forces. Even with the existing technological chains of weapons production, this will require hundreds of billions. And if we adopt qualitatively new models of weapons, sharpened for the SVO, Bolivar, as they say, will not be able to carry so many

    So in the next war we will continue to fight with the tactics of meat assaults supported by the old stuff developed in the 60s. It is the Western clowns who are constantly developing, presenting and adopting, and we will do it the old-fashioned way...
  33. +2
    5 July 2025 21: 37
    SVO cannot be an example of waging war in a new way, because Russia either cannot, or does not want to achieve victory in this conflict, or does not want and cannot. It is quite possible to suppress the will to resist using modern weapons. To strike at decision-making centers, paralyzing the work of government structures, logistics centers, railway hubs, tunnels, bridges. And how long will organized resistance exist under such conditions?
  34. 0
    5 July 2025 22: 10
    Drones will be modernized and become better and cooler, more accurate and more powerful!
  35. 0
    5 July 2025 22: 27
    I didn't quite understand the general thrust of the article, but... here's what unites almost all wars since World War II. Firstly, that they are all not declared and not called wars, because the UN Charter prohibits them from being declared.
    Therefore, we have anything: UN peacekeeping operations (the Korean War), preventive weakening of a potential aggressor (the latest raid on Iran), the establishment of constitutional order, the provision of international aid, peace enforcement, the NWO, the release of hostages, the Indo-Pakistani incident, in short, names for every taste - but there have been no wars since then, peaceful coexistence, so to speak...
    Secondly, the goals of modern politicians in such "non-wars" are so vague and unattainable that with any superiority of forces and the defeat of the regular forces of the "enemy" an endless mess begins, exhausting and boring even the USA with its printing press, after which they leave and sum up: the situation as a result of a kind of "victory" and unrealistic profits has become worse than it was, and if it brought profits, then not only to everyone, but often even to countries not participating in the conflict.
    But poisoning the brains of the elite and youth can produce incredible results....
    And so we all think: tanks or infantry fighting vehicles, aircraft carriers or submarines?
    Brains must be protected from mold, and the elite must earn their title with blood, not with genetics.
  36. +1
    5 July 2025 23: 31
    If there is no political goal, then any conflict will teach nothing. For example, what is the Kremlin's political goal? A goal enshrined in law, decree, or resolution. There is not a single legal document on the SVO in Ukraine that states what the SVO is and what its goal is. How can one check the effectiveness of decisions made if the principle of "do something, I don't know what" works.
  37. +4
    6 July 2025 11: 17
    "And if we accept qualitatively new models of weapons, tailored for the SVO, Bolivar, as they say, will not be able to carry so many" - If instead of money games at various auctions we force everyone to work, then it will carry out with good dynamics.
    1. +2
      6 July 2025 12: 05
      Yes, it will, but this is in a state governed by the rule of law, where the law is above all else. In the Russian State, people come to office with one single goal - to steal, pilfer, and provide themselves, their children and grandchildren with a well-fed life. Not a single official has yet come to build the Russia of the future, starting with the head of a rural settlement and ending with mayors, governors, federal officials and all their deputies. This is the Vertical of Power in a feudal state.
      1. +1
        6 July 2025 14: 32
        Yes, you are right. In my small settlement, two former mayors are already in jail, the new third one is already under investigation with a bracelet on his leg, while he is sitting at home. The question of who will be nominated to power next is being decided.
  38. +1
    6 July 2025 17: 41
    The resistance put up by the Ukrainian army, which was not the most numerous and equipped,
    How powerfully he gave it! Tears from the eyes, snot from the nose... Pathetic losers - all NATO countries, led by the main scum, some unfortunate USA, have been pumping the Ukrainian army with their backward and rusty weapons since 2014. While the Ukrainians were trained by instructors of this very NATO, certainly all of them swindlers and clowns, who stole daddy's M 16 while he was sleeping.
    The author of the article is simply an absolute authority! Ugh...
  39. +3
    6 July 2025 18: 50
    Calm down, our General Staff is not asleep. Everything is going according to plan, although it is not clear to what plan. I will dwell on one question that the author of the article did not mention. And who will command this deadly weapon and where to get, roughly speaking, a Vanya - a platoon leader and a simple fighter. Iron without people capable of operating it is just iron. Yes, our government has cunningly dodged with the involvement of new fighters, money has flowed into the army hitherto unheard of and people from the Russian backwaters and crumbling villages and the same depressed cities have flocked en masse to the army. to close the loans and mortgages taken. for a happy and joyful life. Here it has worked out so far. But the picture with the personnel is completely different and sad. It is simply being exhausted in this war and military schools at the moment cannot fully replenish the declining personnel. Yes, someone may connect their life from the fighters of their own in the future with the army, but this will be a very small percentage. And then. And then the state has only one way out - to expand the network of military schools, which were reduced en masse under Messrs. Medvedev and Putin. Can you imagine what a performance is beginning in the country. I am talking about the competence of effective managers such as Serdyukov, Shoigu and so on. Remember, friends, that the main thing in this conflict turned out to be a big surprise for our enemies that in Russia there are still citizens who are ready to give their lives for the Fatherland and the country. The main thing is to start with the personnel and the mobilization system of the country there will be order and then there will always be those who will sit at the controls of tanks and airplane steering wheels. And without this, everything will go to waste.
  40. +1
    6 July 2025 19: 03
    The first and most important thing is that land operations against a regular army, even against an obviously weak enemy, are becoming increasingly risky.

    And then the author mentions Saddam's long conflict with Khomeini and, in contrast to it, the effective "Desert Storm".
    The difference between these conflicts is in the level and thoughtfulness of the one-time pressure. In the case of Iran-Iraq, it was a whim of Saddam and the cockroach of the young Iranian government, in the case of the USA, it was a thoughtful large-scale plan with high-quality intelligence and multi-level architecture.
    There is a good expression on this subject - "Do it right - it will be right". Where they get involved in a major conflict without careful elaboration of details and adequate, multi-level planning as well as modern intelligence capabilities - there will be a long bloody massacre with an unclear and delayed ending. Where these factors are present there will be pressure, followed by "Kek!", and the enemy system simply will not have time to mobilize for the "long game" before its collapse.

    The second important aspect that significantly complicates land operations is the breakthrough of civilian technologies in military affairs.

    Mobilization of society is a very inert process and if propaganda has managed to spin up society, and especially if time has passed for large-scale "garage workshops" with craftsmen to appear - then this is definitely not so much a success of such a society as an outright epic fail of a strategy of productive pressure with decisive goals of the opposing side.
    There won't be any thousands of drones if at the very beginning of the conflict, in its first hours or days, the state energy system and/or large transport networks/refineries are disabled. Simply because the parts, batteries, and generators won't arrive, digital money will go down the drain - and the enthusiastic population will simply empty the stores, causing panic and hyperinflation in the process.
    But, of course, if this is not done, then OF COURSE sooner or later the tumbler toy will assume a vertical position.
    The first lesson is that the territorial inviolability of the state is no longer directly dependent on the presence of nuclear weapons.

    You know, given what I wrote in the previous point, the question inevitably arises in principle about HOW much we are really initially (and in some sense now) set on radical actions, the apogee of which is nuclear weapons. If we are far from the apogee, then there is no point in talking about it - if we do not want to arrange a humanitarian catastrophe in a neighboring state (inevitable on one scale or another in the case of effective pressure in principle), then talking about nuclear weapons is absolutely pointless. A person who does not want to fight, especially will not want to take out a gun and shoot, so to speak. But to make some long-term conclusions in this area from the CURRENT conflict is somewhat optimistic, IMHO. In our case, to put it mildly, we have long been conducting the conflict in a different way than it was initially seen. These are definitely not the pages that Clausewitz or Sun Tzu would pay attention to, let's say.

    In conclusion, I would like to dwell on the topic of the thread - "What will it teach" and how valuable it is.
    At the moment, from my couch, IMHO, a lot teaches us not so much how to win - but how not to die. A lot in our experience is precisely the development of the theme of survival on a fairly stable front in a fairly stable conflict. Electronic warfare, firmware, the development of front-line UAVs, the evolution, if you can call it that, of tank protection, etc.
    If you try to single out the key - now it is "not to lose in a staring contest". How relevant is this experience for future conflicts? Strong doubts. However, is this experience useful in general? Definitely yes - because it boosts survival, at least for this reason.
    We have NOT seen any radical evolution (towards efficiency) of approaches, weapons and reconnaissance capabilities in 3.5 years - to strategic depth. Some modifications of "Geraniums" and a single launch of "Oreshnik" - this, excuse me, is not evolution. If we were to now carry out an operation a la the Israeli attack on Iran from the point of view of the massive elimination of key functionaries by various means - I would agree that evolution is happening. But this is not the case - and the conclusion suggests itself that for military science our experience of strategic influences at the moment, as far as I understand, is of little value.
    From the point of view of economic sustainability and the work of propaganda, combining a low level of involvement and mobilization of the population with the preservation of peaceful life in general - there are achievements here, this experience will undoubtedly be studied by a number of states.

    In principle, I would warn against extrapolating the experience of the SVO to some future conflicts. The SVO does not demonstrate what is included in the annals of military history. Of course, a number of successes of the beginning time and a number of successes of sustainability after a certain period from the beginning - have scientific and analytical value. But in general, the way we conduct the conflict does not correspond to the modern view of things (due to one reason or another) and can only interest the side whose strategy will have to be built on a long "war of attrition" in some conflict, where for one reason or another it is impossible to use an array of modern means and methods. For example, third world countries will certainly appreciate many of our developments, since in principle, long-term wars with comparatively small resources are a normal phenomenon there.
    Major opponents preparing an attack on us, of course, will also study the experience of the SVO - however, they will study not our experience, but some experience of the Ukrainian side. They do not need to study our experience widely due to developed intelligence structures that analyze information or information in the context of Ukrainian influences (on the same airfield "Engels" or "Moscow" or against our flying radars or the same "Web". In their analysis, we will be more of a model object than a party whose experience is interesting.

    Simply because the West will not fight the way we are fighting now.
  41. 0
    7 July 2025 10: 18
    It is clear that the use on LBS is a separate topic. Destroy a city, let's say..and what will happen? No, if the enemy's military-industrial complex is promoted and the state is already crumbling, then perhaps there will be a response. And if not? What will happen? A universal howl? Well, destroy another one then. In general, the topic of nuclear weapons is not disclosed.
  42. 0
    7 July 2025 11: 01
    The most important conclusion is that the notorious "compact contract high-tech" army is only good for wars against tramps in slippers with AKMs and RPGs. Any other army, a mass one, even with insufficiently powerful air defense, becomes an insurmountable obstacle for the "compact" one with its meager Air Force, for which the loss of 5-6 aircraft becomes an unacceptable loss and forces the Air Force to retreat to the rear from the line of combat contact. And without absolute air supremacy, the "compact" army is powerless against a mobilization army, which, through permanent mobilization, constantly replenishes losses in personnel, forms more and more new formations and units, and receives combat equipment and weapons in varying quantities. Since only air supremacy and the constant destruction of communications can ensure the isolation of the combat zone and deprive the enemy of supplies.
    For example, the success of the notorious "Desert Storm" was ensured by the actions of almost 2500 combat aircraft and 3000 helicopters of the anti-Iraq coalition. When the actions of the surviving Iraqi air defense could not cause critical damage to the enemy's aviation, and the aircraft and helicopters of the anti-Iraq coalition were chasing even a single pickup truck. At the same time, the number of aircraft and helicopters was such that MANPADS lost their effectiveness due to the presence of dozens of enemy combat vehicles in the air at once, and even shooting down one of them did not clear the airspace.
    The SVO also showed that the literally religious worship of the battalion tactical group was groundless. In clashes with a numerically superior, albeit technically inferior, enemy, the "miraculous" BTG lost on all counts.
  43. 0
    8 July 2025 16: 25
    In the context of the gradual loss of military-political power of the United States, the onset of true multipolarity, some individual states will gain economic weight and, as a consequence, military-political power.
    The weight of new regional powers will transmit military and political pressure on their neighbors and the region.
    Conclusion:
    - old and new regional conflicts are inevitable.
    - strengthening regional states will test their ability to exert military and political pressure on their neighbors.
    - new regional military-political unions, blocs, and organizations will emerge in addition to Western ones.