Ground forces after the Central Military District: from tank and motorized rifle units to heavy infantry and mechanized cavalry

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Ground forces after the Central Military District: from tank and motorized rifle units to heavy infantry and mechanized cavalry
Russian Ground Forces Will Have to Change. Photo: Izvestia


The current combat experience of the SVO is extremely specific due to the fact that the Russian armed forces have not found a way out of the positional deadlock. Despite the fact that there is a way out, and the theory of the positional deadlock is beginning to take shape.



Although the war will continue for a long time and the current top leadership is unable to undertake the necessary reforms, this situation is not permanent. Moreover, it will not last long.

In any case, in a few years Russia will have to start building new Ground Forces. They should be formed taking into account the combat experience of the SVO, but without making it absolute.

It is important to understand that the West is also studying the experience of the Central Military District and will be guided by it when forming a new image in its armies.

If the Russian army does not change in the right direction, then in the next war we will simply be swept away.

Building a new army will require the Russian Armed Forces to abandon the practices and doctrines that have defined their appearance for the last 70 years. If this does not happen, then we are finished, and it is better not to even consider this option.

But it is necessary to figure out now how the troops should be organized and equipped in the future, so that the entire theoretical basis will already be created by the end of the Second World War and will require minimal revisions.

Army and "drones"


The first boundary condition to set is role and place drones in the troops of the future.

There are two "trends" at the moment.

The first is among the “part of the forces of the Arbat Military District” — generals of the “old” school, who see in the “new-fangled” copters some kind of anomaly, which can then be discarded and everything returned to how it was. These people cannot be underestimated, their power is enormous, and after the SVO they will try to take revenge. It is in this environment that the reasons are hidden why the formation of organizational and staff structures of the unmanned aviation The President had to personally intervene in military construction, with his order to form the Unmanned Systems Troops (UST).

It is precisely in this environment that the reasons are hidden why, in the 4th year of the war, no measures are being taken to equip the troops. by light motor transport in sufficient quantity, with the introduction of drivers and technicians into the troop staff. It was these people who ensured that conscripts do not receive normal combat training even now.

After the SVO, this group will try to “roll back” all the changes that the war brought with its losses and victims.

Right up to a return to tarpaulin boots and foot wraps, which is something that is periodically talked about in this environment.

Their trend is to “restore it as it was.” On their side is the “old” military-industrial complex, which does not want to share money with anyone.

The second trend is generated in the fighting army, including among generals, among volunteer organizations, including those who train UAV operators for the army, among the “people’s defense industry” producing “drones» all kinds.

Here they understand perfectly well that “the way things were before” means death, and the view of the situation among people from this circle, in any military rank, is much more adequate.

But there is another problem here - the absolutization of current combat experience. Meanwhile, it will partially turn out to be outdated.

Even now, there are commanders who are able to neutralize enemy drones before they attack by searching for and destroying their operators, and other measures, from EW to smoke screens.

Rethinking combat experience in other countries will inevitably lead to the mass introduction of anti-UAV weapons, from laser guns to shotguns in the infantry. These processes have already begun, and, unlike the Russian Armed Forces, where they are driven by lone enthusiasts of their own free will, there these processes are centralized, planned and controlled.

Therefore, although UAVs, including FPV, are now with us forever, in the next wars their importance will change, and the tasks will also change, for example, it will be necessary to have a huge stock of FPV to destroy the means of "small Defense", which our opponents will inevitably have, and as long as this "small air defense" exists, ground units will operate relatively freely.

The author previously published an article "Unmanned-centric" strike combined arms brigade of a new look based on the experience of the Northern Military District", where the appearance of the troops of the near future looked like “infantry + UAVs + MLRS + a small number of motorized rifle and tank units." At the time, the article received a positive response from a number of senior officers at the front.

It must be said that this article is still relevant; to the states invented then, it is only necessary to add some units for combating enemy UAVs.

But after the SVO ends, after the losses end, this image will also need to be revised.

Simply because the described brigade is relevant now, and, for example, when attacking an enemy that does not have deep defensive positions occupied by mobilized troops, such a brigade is not entirely adequate, since it does not ensure rapid advancement where it is theoretically possible (it is simply not possible anywhere now).

In the event of the use of tactical nuclear weapons on the battlefield, weapons, which will be almost inevitable in Europe, it will turn out to be inadequate to the situation in principle.

So, “drones” will remain in large quantities in the army, and their appearance will continue to evolve, but something will have to be done with the foot troops.

And here we need the theory of the positional impasse in which we found ourselves in Ukraine.

War of the Future - Operational-Tactical Level


A theoretical description of what a positional impasse is, how it develops and why it occurs, as well as how to get out of it, was made by the author in the article "Positional Warfare. Theory". Reading it is critical to understanding what follows. Key to how and why to shape the forces of the future is the article's treatment of the concept of "tempo" and how tempo changes during an offensive.

Let us briefly list the key points and the key consequence from them:

1. The tempo of an offensive operation is the reserve of time that is available at a given moment to carry out the operational plan, in comparison with the time required by the enemy to disrupt the implementation of this operational plan, starting from a given moment in time.

2. During an offensive, maintaining a positive tempo value (we need less time to complete a maneuver than the enemy needs to counter-maneuver with reserves) is key to maintaining the war as a maneuverable one and preventing it from transitioning to a positional phase.

3. Nevertheless, sooner or later, with a sufficiently large depth of offensive operations and the presence of reserves on the enemy, the tempo will inevitably be lost. This is an innovative statement, made for the first time - a slide into positional warfare is the norm for opponents of comparable strength. It is inevitable, it is only a question of time.

4. Next, the positional crisis will need to be overcome, for which the troops will have to solve the following tasks:

4.1. Misleading the enemy regarding the direction of the attack, "outplaying" him at the preparation stage. Our troops succeeded near Avdiivka, unfortunately, without developing the success.

4.2. Measures for effective isolation of the combat zone during the transition to the offensive, which will not allow the enemy to maneuver reserves and "plug" our breakthrough (the possibility of which is the root cause of a positional stalemate). This will require the solutions described by the author in the articles “On the need to form artillery groups to isolate the combat area” и "Offensive Mining". In addition, it will be necessary to radically improve the combat effectiveness of strike aviation. One of the methods, highly praised by a number of pilots with combat experience, is described in the author's article "Promising strike aviation complex, based on the experience of the SVO"There are other options, including using aircraft that are already in production.

4.3. Measures to sharply accelerate the breakthrough of the enemy's first defensive line. This is solved by means of the measures described in the article. "Unmanned-centric" strike combined arms brigade of a new look based on the experience of the Northern Military District" measures to use reconnaissance and strike UAVs, as well as through the mass use of high-precision munitions artillery. Also, means of rapid passage through minefields will be needed, which, unfortunately, are not available now. This issue requires separate study.

4.4. Measures to dramatically increase the effectiveness of counter-battery combat against enemy artillery. This requires reducing the time for coordinating the opening of fire, massing the use of UAVs and aviation against enemy artillery. In general, the task at the modern level is very complex, many times more complex than, for example, 20 years ago, but generally solvable.

If the enemy's defenses are successfully breached, it will again be necessary to maintain a high tempo of advance, acting much like the Iraqi forces did in 1988 on the Faw Peninsula, during the final Iraqi offensive of the Iran-Iraq War.

From the above, it is easy to draw a conclusion about the organizational and staff structure of ground forces capable of fighting at the operational level as described.

The conclusion is this: different troops are needed for the maneuver phase and for the positional phase.

This follows from elementary logic.

To break through the defense and to quickly advance forward, different equipment is needed, different infantry staffing levels, different proportions between tanks and other armored vehicles, even logistics are different - "fast" troops will need more fuel, "breakthrough troops" - many times more shells.

Where the “fast” troops will make do with a sapper company, the “breakthrough troops” will need a battalion; where the “fast” troops will make do with self-entrenching armored vehicles, the “breakthrough troops” advancing from their initial position from positions requiring engineering support will need to have large units with earthmoving equipment, and so on.

An analysis of any other features of the standard structures of the troops required for the “rapid advance” stage and for the “breakthrough of the positional front” stage indicates the same thing: two types of ground force units are needed, limited in their ability to replace each other, but generally different, optimized in their standard structures for different phases of the war on the ground.

Roughly speaking, from the understanding of positional warfare that we have, from the theory that has already been created, it follows that in the future, ground forces will need two types of formations.

Let's call them conditionally "mechanized cavalry" and "heavy infantry", which will reflect their purpose in the best possible way.

Traditional motorized rifle and tank units will have to be abandoned. Forever.

Why not tank troops?


Traditionally, in our country, tank troops are perceived as mobile troops whose task is to penetrate the enemy’s defenses as deeply as possible in order to encircle him, destroy his rear, etc.

This perception “grows” from the 30s, when tank and mechanized units stood apart from linear army units, which did not have transport for the simultaneous transfer of all personnel and property, and massively used horse traction.

Later, despite the complete motorization and mechanization of the ground forces of all countries achieved by the end of the 50s, tanks retained their role due to the need to conduct combat operations in conditions of the potential use of nuclear weapons, to which tanks are most resistant.

The transfer of the doctrines of the USSR and Western countries to the "Third World" forced other countries to repeat this doctrinal approach, in addition, in the conditions of, for example, the Middle East, the tank was really maximally effective - a desert landscape, tank-accessible terrain almost everywhere, the ability to fire direct fire at maximum range - this led to the fact that wars in this region were waged by large tank formations.

However, in modern conditions this approach is outdated.

The emergence of attack UAVs capable of directly hitting a target tens of kilometers from the front line made the concentration of tanks in the direction of the main attack deadly for them.

The emergence of mass anti-tank weapons missile systems that hit armored vehicles in the roof, put the survival of the tank under enemy fire into question in principle. Tanks, of course, will not disappear, they will simply change technically. The author wrote about what the appearance of a tank could be after the SVO in the article "The Future of Tanks in Light of the Fighting in Ukraine", despite the somewhat undeveloped nature of the ideas presented in it, it clearly shows that the tank as a means of combat has a future, but now a massive attack by tanks will most likely be impossible.


Nothing like this will ever happen again, ever.

Tanks have already turned from the main striking weapon into just one of the fire weapons, and this will remain the case.

What will be the main means of defeating the enemy? These will be strike UAVs, as now, the crews of which will move on their specialized armored vehicles, but well-armed infantry with their own heavy weapons, which will allow them to immediately, upon detection of a dangerous target, guarantee to hit it with direct fire, and capable of occupying and controlling territory, will have to move along with them.

The heavy weapons of such infantry will be guns mounted on armored vehicles, mortars and anti-tank guided missiles, as well as tanks.

It can be assumed that tank companies and tank battalions will remain in the army, which, unlike modern Russian ones, and by analogy with Western ones, will already include infantry companies on armored vehicles and some additional firepower, up to self-propelled artillery, but above the battalion level there will no longer be anything called “tank”.

The new type of mobile unit will include mechanized infantry, strike units of unmanned aircraft on special armored vehicles, tank, artillery and other units and subdivisions, the ratio of the numbers of which to each other will be optimal from the point of view of supporting the actions of strike UAVs and infantry.

Mechanized cavalry, general approaches and boundary conditions


The key requirements for mechanized cavalry will be the ability to maintain a high tempo of attack for as long as possible and quickly retreat if necessary.

It follows from this that it is necessary to provide the equipment of such a combination with a high level of mobility and a long power reserve.

Here we can recall the roadsides of Ukrainian roads littered with our armored vehicles that had stopped without fuel in the first days of the Central Military District - the army simply did not have the capacity to replenish its fuel supplies.

It is important to understand that the logistical capabilities of the Russian army were and remain insufficient; we simply have too little transport. But there is another side to the issue – the capacity of the roads. The more transport we have to move along them, the harder it is to advance, and this is especially important in the first days of the offensive, when a huge mass of troops of the first wave of the offensive is pushed through the “bottlenecks” of border crossings and international highways.

Therefore, the cruising range of the armored vehicles of the mechanized cavalry should be significantly greater than what we have now. Simply so that it can inflict as much damage on the enemy as possible on the first refueling.

This will be of great importance.

One example is the South African Ratel APC, whose basic version has a range of 1000 kilometers on hard roads on one tank of gas. In South Africa, this is due to the distances at which their infantry had to operate during the thirty-year Border War, but the logic is clear.


South African Ratel on exercises. The "ideology" of South African mechanized units capable of thousand-kilometer raids will become one of the components of the new doctrine for the use of ground forces in the first stage of the war, in its maneuver phase

To make it even clearer, a company of such armored vehicles, entering Ukraine along the Belgorod-Kharkov road and bypassing Kharkov along the bypass road from the west, could reach almost the bypass road of Lvov on one fill-up.

Without taking into account the maneuvers necessary in war, of course, but this is in any case a striking example. A mass of troops with such a power reserve is not the same as a mass of troops that will stop without fuel after 500 kilometers.


The Swedish CV-90 is an automatic gun with a programmer, a range of up to 900 km, more or less satisfactory protection, high speed... something like this will be needed by the "mechanized cavalry"

The main combat vehicle for the infantry in such a formation should be an infantry fighting vehicle with a cannon and anti-tank missiles, no matter whether it is wheeled or tracked.

This is due to the fact that when rapidly advancing deep into enemy territory, the threat to the troops, firstly, can take any form, and secondly, will arise suddenly. Even one infantry squad in an armored vehicle may face the need to immediately engage in a counter-attack with the enemy, may find itself surrounded for some time, and so on.

In such conditions, the infantry will need “its own gun” – a heavy weapon that travels with it.

It will also have to be acknowledged that although such an armored vehicle will need to provide the highest possible level of protection, the need to have a full-fledged weapon and a large fuel supply will make it impossible to use truly heavily armored vehicles whose protection would be comparable to tanks.

For the purposes of unification, command and reconnaissance versions, combat vehicles for UAV crews, self-propelled mortars or light howitzers, and equipment delivering ammunition for infantry units, strike UAV supplies for “drone operators,” etc. will be produced on the basis of this same armored vehicle.

Trucks must be armed, and their crews must be ready to repel attacks on columns on the move, without stopping, naturally, the cabins must be armored. The speed and range must correspond to those of armored vehicles.


The US Army's 3rd Infantry Division's move to bypass the bulk of Iraqi troops toward Baghdad in 2003 was a "model" operation for future "mechanized cavalry", only against a strong enemy they will have to be faster

Tanks stand apart, as they a priori cannot have the same range as lighter armored vehicles, and they cannot have the same engine life.

Therefore, separate, rather large units should be allocated to supply tank battalions with fuel. In addition, it is necessary to have the ability to quickly transfer tanks towards the combat contact line on trailers, if the situation allows it.

The fact that a significant proportion of the mechanized cavalry will be made up of rear guards with transport equipment, and that the march of the rear column in such units will have to be considered as a form of combat, must be accepted as a given.

It must also be accepted as a given that an infantry squad in a mechanized cavalry will differ from one in a heavy infantry unit.

The main form of combat that mechanized cavalry will have to deal with will be a counter-attack on the move. Also common will be repelling attacks from ambush and breaking through poorly prepared defenses of small depth on the move, followed by continuing the offensive. Mechanized cavalry must be prepared to conduct such actions.

As a “model example” of such actions, it is worth taking the throw of the 3rd Infantry Division of the US Army to Baghdad in 2003, with the adjustment that against a strong enemy you will have to be faster and have more striking force at the “tip of the spear”.

Heavy infantry


Sooner or later, the rapid breakthroughs of the mechanized cavalry will either run into the rear zones of deeply echeloned defense, which the enemy will create by sacrificing troops that did not have time to retreat, or will close the pincers of encirclement around the enemy’s huge troop groups, which at the time of cutting off will still be able to break through.

In the first case, relatively light cavalry units with highly mobile and expensive, but not the most protected equipment, and an insufficient number of artillery and sappers to break through the deeply echeloned defense will lose the ability to effectively attack. The positional front will come into its own.

There will be a need for units capable of breaking through deeply echeloned defensive lines and storming fortified areas.

In the second, someone will need to effectively close the inner rings of encirclement, someone who will not allow them to be broken through due to the mass of heavy weapons available and the ability to quickly establish a deeply echeloned defense themselves.

At any of these moments, other units will have to be brought into battle - infantry, with a lot of specialized equipment and heavy weapons, with significantly greater striking power than the mechanized cavalry, but with significantly less mobility (forced).

The organizational structure and equipment of these units will differ significantly from the mechanized cavalry.

Let's look at this using the example of a platoon's armored vehicles.

For mechanized cavalry, the risk of a head-on battle, a "cutting off" flank counterattack communications, or being encircled is very high, and begins at the "armored vehicle/squad" level. Therefore, they definitely need IFVs capable of fighting independently.

Heavy infantry in an offensive must quickly overcome the neutral zone under fire, destroy the defending enemy troops, clear out their trenches and then in the same way break through the next line of defense, then the next, and so on.

And this requires that armored vehicles deliver infantry literally to enemy positions, dropping them right on the heads of the defenders. But it will have almost no open flanks, not protected at least by fire, there will be no need for a hundred-kilometer dash either. For this, an infantry armored vehicle must have the highest possible level of protection, but the range and speed are not fundamental, even simply not important.

Today, such equipment is only in service with the Israel Defense Forces (IDF).


The IDF's Namer IFV. Something like this, with a turret optimized to protect against attack drones and loitering munitions, should become the main "heavy infantry" fighting vehicle.

The author described the prospects for the emergence of such equipment in the Russian Armed Forces in the article "Heavy armor for the Russian infantry".

But here the question arises: can such an armored vehicle simultaneously fire to suppress the defenders and move in their direction to deliver an assault group?

The answer is no, it is tactically impossible, and the fire suppression vehicle will have to be used separately, at a distance, possibly on the flank of the advancing unit’s battle formation.

Then it turns out that the optimal vehicle for heavy infantry is not an IFV, but a heavy APC, whose weapons are optimized for shooting down UAVs and self-defense, and the entire mass reserve is used for armor. And for fire suppression, a vehicle structurally similar to a modern BMPT is needed.

That is, if in an infantry platoon of mechanized cavalry we have 3 or 4 IFVs, then in an infantry platoon of heavy infantry we have 3 heavy APCs and one or two fire support vehicles capable of suppressing a defending enemy or destroying a tank from a safe distance, but not carrying infantry.


In conditions of a positional stalemate, when it is necessary to constantly suppress the resistance of entrenched infantry, the BMPT with its specific composition of weapons unexpectedly showed itself well in battles

The infantry squad itself can be made of an optimal size; today it is not 5 people, as in fact in the Russian army, and not 7-8, as was the theory before the SVO, but 11-15 people.

A heavy and large armored vehicle can easily accommodate so much. In addition, it can roll a mine trawl in front of it.

The number of platoons and companies must be “adjusted” to the requirements of quickly breaking through enemy positions in the offensive, and in defense – to the possibility of echeloning units in depth without excessive compaction of battle formations.

Tank battalions in heavy infantry formations may well be a mobile reserve with high firepower at the disposal of senior commanders, but they will not have to be used in their entirety in the direction of the main attack - breaking through a defense saturated with a large number of anti-tank weapons is not the task of tanks.

At the same time, it seems very logical to have a tank company in an infantry battalion - as a powerful means of fire for direct fire. But these tanks will work to support the actions of the infantry.

Naturally, the main striking weapon of the infantry brigade will also be UAVs of various types.

Heavy infantry may have more artillery, but the requirement to provide all artillery with a greater firing range is not as critical as for mechanized cavalry, which operates at a fairly dangerous distance from its main forces.

There will be a need for many times more sappers, and there will be a need for means of quickly passing through minefields in large quantities - mechanized cavalry will not need this due to the fact that their main technique is a rapid flank attack, and it will be used where it has room to deploy.

Non-motorized rifle troops


It would be a mistake to think that these new-look Ground Forces are simply rearmed motorized infantry, reinforced with tanks.

Firstly, in modern motorized riflemen, the integration of the riflemen themselves and the armored vehicles occurs at the squad level - the deputy squad leader is the commander of the BMP or APC.

As a result, if an infantry fighting vehicle is lost in combat, the squad is left without the combat equipment with which it was trained to fight and which serves as its transport.

In the new SV, infantry is infantry everywhere, it's just that due to the specifics of the mechanized cavalry combat vehicles, the squads in it are smaller in number. The infantry fights on foot, the armored vehicles act as an armored group under a single command. This is an American scheme, in the US it is implemented at the company level; we may have the same, or maybe everything will be closed to the platoon commander, it is not particularly important. Its strong point is the significantly lesser dependence of the infantry on whether the BMPs are still in service or not.

There is no need to draw analogies with the armored vehicles of the mechanized cavalry and the “tin cans” BMP-1 and 2, or BTR-80/82.

Although the mobility of the armored vehicles of the mechanized cavalry will be at the forefront, but after ensuring the required capacity for the placement of the turret with weapons and fuel reserves, the rest of the vehicle's mass reserve will go to armor.

The main striking weapon, both in heavy infantry and in mechanized cavalry, is the UAV.


"Lancets" versus "Leopards". Let's not forget that this is exactly what the main method of destroying the enemy will look like, in one type of formation or another. The infantry will arrive or will come after, after the drones. And not necessarily strictly after the "Lancets". Drawing: ZALA

Doctrinally, this will be a different army, not a fragment of the Soviet one that entered Ukraine in 2022.

Heavy infantry is a phenomenon that is even more irreducible to today's motorized riflemen. It is assault infantry, saturated with heavy weapons and artillery, reinforced by large numbers of sapper units, advancing in dashes from one defensive line to another and breaking through these lines in mainly infantry combat formations.

Such units must also practice a head-on combat on the move, but due to the specifics of weapons and military equipment, and special staffing, it will be built differently than in mechanized cavalry.

According to the names of the new type of formations for the mechanized cavalry, the word "mechanized" can be left and the new mobile formations can be called by this word. For example, "mechanized brigade".

But it is also possible to officially make them “mechanized cavalry” brigades (the author is an opponent of the divisional form of troop organization), resorting to this name as the one that most accurately reflects the essence of the new type of formation.

"Heavy infantry" units can be simply called "infantry".

If there ever comes a need to create some other infantry, a “lighter” one (for example, need will force the formation of motorized infantry units on vehicles – industry cannot quickly produce the required amount of armored vehicles, and the bulk of its pre-war quantity has already been lost in battles), then a separate name can be used for them, for example, “light infantry”.

The proportions between the two types of formations will need to be determined through an analysis of the most probable theaters of military operations in the near future.

The biggest mistake would be to try to leave everything as is, trying to simply saturate the existing staff with new military equipment.

The standard organizational and staffing structures at the time of the start of the SVO do not work, and this is obvious.

Whether anyone agrees with this or not, giving SV a new look is inevitable.
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  1. +19
    30 June 2025 04: 51
    On their side is the “old” military-industrial complex, which does not want to share money with anyone.

    Well, finally someone hinted at the corrupt connections between the Ministry of Defense and the military-industrial complex that are hindering the implementation of reforms.
    1. +7
      30 June 2025 07: 35
      The role of the infantryman will be performed by robotic complexes of various specializations. The defeat of such a combat unit in defense will lead to the withdrawal of the human component of the army to new lines of defense. Mixed units will work directly on the LBS at first, then only robotic ones. This will bring the same tanks to another level, since there will be no need to transport a crew. This is not the distant future, this is the near future. But no one will hear ... as was the case with UAVs.
      I can imagine what a nightmare it will be on the battlefield when a more backward army will fight against autonomous robotic systems.
      1. +14
        30 June 2025 09: 35
        Why do you, like the author, rush into the nonsense of "everyone on UAVs" and the re-cutting of the "working scheme"... the scheme was developed God knows when, look at the division of the US Army... there are 3 types of brigades, they just need to be updated - "heavy" with tanks and "normal" IFVs (compared to domestic vehicles, the Bradley IFV is already "heavy"), "medium" on reinforced APCs and "light" on MRAPs. First, aviation and "heavy" units break the enemy's back, break through the front and make the defense "focal", then the "medium" finish off the centers of resistance and the "light" only then establish and support the "new government". To combat small flying UAVs, you actually need 2 things - a normal APS to shoot down those already flying and speed of advance to destroy the "gnats" command posts. Ground drones won't be a problem, since remote control can be suppressed by normal electronic warfare, and wired control does not allow such machines to be controlled from afar.
        There is simply no room in the army for highly specialized vehicles like the BMPT and Sprut - as the experience of the SVO has shown, such "crystal rapiers" break faster than they can cause significant damage to the opposing side. The main problem and task is to quickly push through the first 30-50 km without losing momentum, since the enemy is ALWAYS left with an open field.
        1. +1
          30 June 2025 12: 04
          I agree - the emphasis is on heavily armored and shielded heavy tanks.
          1. SAG
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            30 June 2025 15: 24
            Nothing like this will ever happen again, ever.


            The author doesn't seem to know the rule "never say never". I think in the future tanks will be equipped with powerful electronic warfare systems that create an impenetrable dome at, say, 500m, or it will be a specialized machine for tank breakthroughs. Perhaps it will be an automated laser installation that calculates drones and burns out their electronics...
            1. +2
              30 June 2025 16: 07
              To which the enemies will respond once again with another batch of innovations - with slightly more expensive drones without radio control (the "impenetrable dome" is out), reflective foil to protect electronics from lasers and aiming directly at the radiation source. This is how all attempts to ignore reality and screw on crutches instead of a comprehensive solution to the problem will end.
              1. SAG
                +2
                30 June 2025 16: 39
                Dear !Eye of Evil!, do you want to tell me about the eternal struggle between the sword and the shield (offensive and defensive means)? I'm afraid you're too late. Or have you come to believe in the invulnerability of the new wonder weapons?
                PS: This is how any attempts to throw shit on the fan, ignoring history as a science and dogmatism as a norm of consciousness will end.
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                  1. SAG
                    -2
                    30 June 2025 16: 58
                    Do you consider yourself a master of psychology, trying to surprise someone here by substituting concepts? fellow
                    Please explain that by means of attack I meant a tank as a finished product, and by means of defense I meant a drone (here you don’t even have any specifics, there are dozens of types of drones)...
                    1. 0
                      30 June 2025 17: 30
                      You initially wrote about tank wedges, no need to shift the blame.
                      1. SAG
                        -1
                        30 June 2025 19: 11
                        How do the tank wedges (although I did not use this wording) that I wrote about in the first comment relate to the question that you raised much later, namely
                        Where does this funny conviction come from that a tank is precisely a “means of attack” and a drone is a “means of defense”?

                        Did I understand correctly that Apophenia is not a foreign term for you?
                      2. -1
                        30 June 2025 19: 43
                        You first wrote that tank wedges would continue to be used (for example, thanks to the "impenetrable electronic warfare dome" that should somehow miraculously affect drones without radio control), and now you're starting to wriggle like a snake - "I didn't say that", "I didn't mean that", "you can't prove anything". You need to speak at Solovyov's.
                      3. SAG
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                        30 June 2025 22: 08
                        You're either trying to put a good face on a bad game now, or you need to get checked out, at least consulted...
                        Please provide a quote where and what "I didn't say that", "I didn't mean that".
                        All comments are available, just cut my quotes and show where I lied or wrote that I DIDN'T say something. It's not difficult. And I will admit and apologize and people will appreciate it.
                        I consider it beneath my dignity to have a conversation in a casual manner. Only FACTS, please.
            2. +1
              1 July 2025 02: 41
              Quote: SAG
              Nothing like this will ever happen again, ever.


              The author doesn't seem to know the rule "never say never". I think in the future tanks will be equipped with powerful electronic warfare systems that create an impenetrable dome at, say, 500m, or it will be a specialized machine for tank breakthroughs. Perhaps it will be an automated laser installation that calculates drones and burns out their electronics...

              And I agree with Einstein who said that in the 4th World War, humanity will fight with sticks!
            3. +1
              1 July 2025 15: 48
              Quote: SAG
              Perhaps it will be an automated laser installation that calculates drones and burns out their electronics...

              OLS, magnetron and horn antenna. On approach not only the electronics will burn out, but even the winding of the electric motors... and maybe the battery will explode.
            4. -1
              2 July 2025 14: 32
              Both ATGMs and attack drones are now flying, controlled by optical cable.
              No electronic warfare has any effect on them.
              Only a direct hit on them.
              1. SAG
                0
                2 July 2025 22: 07
                Quote: voyaka uh
                Both ATGMs and attack drones are now flying, controlled by optical cable.
                No electronic warfare has any effect on them.
                Only a direct hit on them.

                I didn't write about now... I wrote about later.
        2. -1
          8 July 2025 23: 11
          In fact, it will be like this - a Starship-type missile (didn't think it was for Mars? Just like Starlink is not for the Internet for children in Bangladesh) stamped out in the amount of 100 pieces delivers the following: 50 Starships carry containers with drones that enter the atmosphere each separately, which overloads the air defense (for example, 50 * 200 containers of one ton, a total of 10k high-speed hypersonic targets at the same time). Then, with the help of Starlink and AI, the drones fly out and cause unacceptable damage to the rear / airfields / fleet. At the same time, the remaining 50 missiles land on abandoned airfields and other poorly or completely unguarded sites in the deep rear in some Muhomyask, and return back to their native Americanism to reload with manpower and drones. In this way, multiple bridgeheads are created inside the attacked country, let's conditionally call it Laos. Meanwhile, stealth fighters and bombers destroy all the warehouses with tanks and other junk, as well as barracks with personnel, not allowing the air defense to reload.
          This is what the war will be like. If it happens, we can only counter it with nuclear weapons. Laos - nothing at all.
          All these guns and tanks and even drones of yours will be nothing against a high-tech power in 20 years. Only a threat of destruction. Therefore, it is necessary to improve the means of eliminating the enemy's space group, and to modernize and rivet new and numerous hypersonic weapons controlled in flight, the trajectory of which cannot be calculated by AI and cannot be conducted by triangulating the network between satellites.
          Well, we need our own Starlink satellites, 20000 of them will be normal, controlled with corrective engines, which could also become anti-satellites. And all these tanks of yours and even drones will become obsolete in future wars.... Like that Bayraktar in a war against a country with normal air defense.
      2. +2
        30 June 2025 10: 24
        We are still really far from Terminators! And radio-controlled cars can only be part of the infantry arsenal, so for another 50 years, infantry on the battlefield will be the main force for which all the others work: artillery, aviation and UAVs.
        1. +7
          30 June 2025 10: 50
          The author is certainly great at trying to analyze and systematize current experience. good
          But in his reasoning about deep operations and maneuver warfare, I did not notice what would actually make it possible to carry out these very operations?
          The very possibility of conducting a maneuver war appeared during the Great Patriotic War, due to motorization and tanks. At that time, the tank was the ultimate weapon, only tanks and anti-tank tanks could stop it, that's all!
          During the Arab-Israeli wars there was no war of maneuver, the Israelis simply defeated the Arab armies and the war ended because the Arabs had nothing to fight with.
          In Iraq, the US carried out its maneuver operations, thanks to its complete dominance in aviation, which completely isolated the enemy forces and the US army and its allies could easily destroy pockets of resistance along the way, there were no large-scale battles!
          In Ukraine, UAVs have made the battlefield transparent, there is no way to freely maneuver large masses of troops, they are easily destroyed by good old artillery without any UAVs! And the combat capability of small units is very dependent on even minor losses, and here UAVs are simply a super weapon!
          These drones are capable of hitting targets at 20-30 km from the LBS and how does the author propose to conduct a maneuver war in such conditions? I somehow did not understand this. The reorganization of the army is naturally necessary, but we can forget about a maneuver war for the next 20 years in principle! We need to work on the tactics of the battlefield and strategic air offensive operations!
          Today, war is won according to the principle of the Arab-Israeli wars: defeating and bleeding the army on the front line is the path to victory, you will be able to move freely only when there is no one to stop you!
          1. +1
            30 June 2025 12: 09
            The article is useless, but the author wants it. That's already good. Imagine a student who has done nothing for thirty years and then started, relying on his past knowledge and the realities of today. What will he get? He will get SVO. SVO is the way it shouldn't be. What experience comes out of this mess? Everything lies on the surface. We need to learn the lessons of 30 years and win quickly. I can write what needs to be done now. And my article will be studied to death by all our opponents, but our generals will not notice it! Reforms can be carried out even during SVO. Result: complete victory in SVO in 8 months, including preparation. Huge funds are not needed, painful reforms are not needed, new developments are minimal and the transformations are based on the achieved level ... Science fiction? No! Theoretical basis: "System of systems". New tactical technique for conducting modern BD by conventional means: "Tactics of the positional area"! Everything is developed and thought out... In addition to solving the problems of the SVO, creating a theoretical basis for reforming the army and reforming it. But who is interested in this in these Armed Forces and in this country? After all, the decision-making level is the Minister of Defense and higher. That's it!
          2. +2
            30 June 2025 12: 52
            Maneuverable warfare is more than possible today, as the experience of the Ukrainian Armed Forces and the “bangs” in Syria demonstrated perfectly.
            1. +4
              30 June 2025 13: 29
              What experience does the Ukrainian Armed Forces have? Are you talking about Kursk and the loss of Izyum? These were blows into the void! In both cases, our troops were not there! And these were local successes, where the enemy outplayed our command, which, in my opinion, was constrained by political restrictions at that time. As soon as our troops appeared in the path of the Ukrainian Armed Forces, all of their successes ended. We also had dashing attacks, in the same Kursk in the opposite direction, but this does not change the overall picture on the battlefield!

              There is no need to remember Syria anymore, it is a war between completely different armies, these are battles between de facto regular formations
              1. +1
                1 July 2025 12: 53
                You have an interesting way of doing it - inconvenient examples are not taken into account and are recognized as unique, but suitable ones are replicated.
                The fact is that both the Ukrainian Armed Forces and the "bangs" instead of forcing a battle blocked and bypassed pockets of resistance, allowing the rear forces to deal with them, according to the tactics of a maneuverable war, and the reasons for this are already details. What difference does it actually make why they were unable to prevent the advance and envelopment of pockets of resistance, because there were not enough people due to their absence as such, destruction by aviation/artillery or banal flight? The point is that the attackers were able to concentrate a sufficient number of manpower and armored vehicles in all the presented cases, no drones stopped them. The Ukrainians tried to do the same in the summer of 2023, but the delay and insufficient supplies from Western allies did not allow the Ukrainians to start on time and prepare properly, but ours managed to sow everything with mines like grain ...
                1. 0
                  1 July 2025 16: 07
                  FPV has changed the entire nature of combat and war. What deep breakthroughs can we talk about if any armored vehicles on the battlefield will be destroyed before they reach it, and in the event of a breakthrough of the first line, throwing mechanized forces into the breakthrough will be exactly the same suicide as the assault itself on armored vehicles. Until an effective antidote to this buzzing infection is found and the troops are not saturated with such means, the positional impasse will not be overcome by conventional means. Because there are not just a lot of drones, but too many.
                  It's time to think about means based on electromagnetic pulse, including armored vehicles. OLS, magnetron, horn antenna (maybe a small parabolic one for a narrower beam at a large distance. Correctly selected frequency and power of the pulse will burn out not only electronics, but also the winding of electric motors. And the battery will explode. Experiments in field conditions and the fastest possible implementation are needed.
                  And of course, ammunition generating EMP over the battlefield to sterilize it from flying infection before the assault. The effect is temporary, but it can be repeated.
                  1. 0
                    1 July 2025 20: 15
                    FPVs have not changed anything, they have only confirmed that in the modern realities of a positional stalemate, they have the best cost/effectiveness ratio. So the mace during WWI also showed that it is most convenient to use in trenches, did it change the world because of this? No.
                    Remind me when the positional stalemate began and when FPV appeared? Were there many confirmed cases of tank duels during the SVO? Drones are good when several dozen of them fly to one tank, when the operator can sit relatively calmly in the rear and engage in free hunting. What is the average drone consumption per month? Tens of thousands, the losses of both sides are much less, respectively, the majority of drones do not find targets. The stalemate is caused not by FPV, but by the inability of either side to achieve complete air superiority, when helicopters and aircraft in the enemy's skies carry out free hunting. In the absence of air defense, a helicopter will cause much more damage to the enemy, because it simply sees further - it has altitude, speed and radar (if we take normal modern attack helicopters).
                    1. -1
                      1 July 2025 22: 22
                      Quote: parma
                      Remind me when the positional impasse began and when FPV appeared?

                      The positional impasse (its beginning) developed when the RF Armed Forces were faced with a surprising fact - it turns out that an Army is needed to wage war, and not a hodgepodge of the Small Army, "volunteer battalions of the territorial formation and two corps of the Donbass republics. The Supreme Command began the SVO essentially without an Army. From all the bins on 24.02.2022/100/60 it was possible to scrape together no more than 160 thousand bayonets, taking into account the Marine Corps from all fleets, the Airborne Forces, the Special Operations Forces and the Russian Guard. Another 2000 thousand were given by the hastily mobilized corps of the LPR and DPR. THAT'S IT! XNUMX thousand of a hodgepodge began the SVO on a front length of about XNUMX km from five or even six directions. With spread fingers, without normal support for the rear of the advancing groups, without the possibility of timely rotation ... And that's when This group was exhausted, and there were no reserves, the first dead end occurred. And the transition to strategic defense. In order to prepare, arm and equip a group of sufficient numbers, by all calculations, at least two years were needed. Simple arithmetic, which was neglected at the beginning of the SVO.
                      Dead end ?
                      No. It is precisely the transition to strategic defense and accumulation of reserves.
                      The group reached the minimum number necessary to conduct offensive operations of local significance only in the past 2024. And numerically, the SVO group equaled the number of the Armed Forces of Ukraine only at the beginning of this year. Today, both we and the Armed Forces of Ukraine have approximately 700 thousand bayonets on fronts stretching 2000 km.
                      Dead end ?
                      With our air superiority, the amount of ammunition and firepower in general and without taking into account the factor of attack drones, our army could have slowly but surely advanced the front since the middle of last year. But it was FPV that completely leveled our superiority in firepower and made it impossible to conduct classic offensive operations. The race for primacy in battlefield drones (in their quantity and quality) began, as well as the search for new tactical solutions. At the moment, the search and development of new tactics continues. And the positional impasse ... it arose last year - when we already had the forces for an offensive, but the conditions of the battlefield itself changed. And now numerical superiority on the battlefield no longer plays a decisive role. And large-scale offensives and deep breakthroughs are simply impossible. Until the FPV problem is solved, everything will remain more or less as is. In such conditions, the factor of exhaustion of the enemy, disruption of logistics, creation of problems in the rear and massing of strikes with "Geraniums" on strategically important objects are of great importance. In general, in FPV we have achieved quantitative and qualitative superiority today. It is still small, but the gap will now increase. And over the battlefield it will be increasingly crowded with buzzing carriers of death.
                      Quote: parma
                      In the absence of air defense, a helicopter will cause much more damage to the enemy, because it can simply see further - it has altitude, speed and radar.

                      The enemy still has enough MANPADS and air defense systems (there are much fewer of these, but they exist), so the aviation, including helicopters, are working carefully but actively. For example, they were very active this morning, and the aviation too. Apparently, they were responsible for yesterday's attack on Donetsk. Or they were providing fire support for another breakthrough. Yesterday's anti-aircraft battle was before my eyes, and the cruise missile that hit the city center flew past my house. It looks like we will have to fight for a long time in such a situation, unless something changes qualitatively.
                2. 0
                  1 July 2025 19: 19
                  The expression: "shot into the void" means that the offensive was carried out in an area where troops were practically absent! What pockets of resistance did the Ukrainian Armed Forces bypass? Militia and Russian Guard checkpoints?
                  In the SVO zone, the Ukrainian Armed Forces have never broken through the defense of the Russian army! Not once! And we regularly push through the defense and even break through it locally, but due to the small number, we cannot develop the success. And it is precisely these very drones and artillery that do not allow us to concentrate sufficient numbers. Any equipment practically does not survive on the LBS, therefore, through a breakthrough, through battle formations, there is no way to develop an offensive and reach operational space. Therefore, there is no mobile war in Ukraine, supporting any unit that has broken through deep from the air is also a task with huge losses. Therefore, there are no prerequisites for a mobile war yet

                  Besides: the war of 22, 23 and 24, from a technical point of view, is a different war!
          3. 0
            30 June 2025 16: 12
            They will forget about “maneuverable warfare for the next 20 years in principle” as soon as they establish “lower air defense” in about two years.
      3. 0
        30 June 2025 16: 09
        I can imagine what a nightmare it would be if "autonomous robotic systems" did not receive an uninterrupted supply of fuel, for example.
    2. +2
      30 June 2025 13: 03
      Maybe someone will someday notice that one of the main owners of "Kalashnikov" is sitting in the Ministry of Defense...
  2. +22
    30 June 2025 04: 52
    Forgive me, moderators and the author, but it feels like someone is obsessed with UAVs. Listing the absurdities in the article would make the text longer than the article itself.
    For example, this one:
    To make it even clearer, a company of such armored vehicles, entering Ukraine along the Belgorod-Kharkov road and bypassing Kharkov along the bypass road from the west, could you can get almost there on one tank of gas to the bypass road Of Lviv.

    ... and what should it do there? Experience of such "light infantry" at different times and in different forms has happened before. And each time negative. Tanks did not appear in the cavalry immediately, but after machine guns and magazine rifles reduced to "zero" the effectiveness of horse "lavas". The same problem appeared in parachute units during the Great Patriotic War. Without heavy weapons and in isolation from the supply system, ANY breakthrough is doomed and such infantry are suicide bombers.

    The author's "UAV fetishism" looks no less strange. Is this the first miracle munition that can "bury tanks"? Of course not. There were years when long-barreled AT guns and sub-caliber shells seemed an invincible means. Then cumulative ammunition, then ATGMs, attack helicopters... And all of this has always had and will always have one immutable property: they do not care whether there is a tank or an IFV in front of them. They simply damage the tank and dismantle the IFV for nuts and bolts. Rearming the army from tanks to IFVs will not change anything on the battlefield. Of course, the tanks themselves and the tactics of their use must change. But this is an ongoing process anyway.

    What I support the author in is that there is no point in trying to make an "armored bus" that "delirious wankers" and other apologists of "heavy infantry fighting vehicles with tank armor" are raving about. An infantry assault vehicle is one thing, an armored APC is another.
    1. +5
      30 June 2025 05: 25
      long-barreled AT guns and sub-caliber shells. Then cumulative ammunition, then ATGMs, attack helicopters...

      It should be noted that, unlike all of the above, the kamikaze drone is guaranteed to hit the target with a deviation of a couple of cm. At the same time, it can stop in flight and choose the most vulnerable spot. Or even switch to another object. Previously, such a cheap and effective "projectile with eyes" that can be assembled in the field literally "on the knee" could only be dreamed of. And there is no reliable protection against a swarm of these penny FPVs and there will not be any in the near future.
      1. -3
        30 June 2025 06: 36
        yes there is protection from UAVs it is just not used all that is to blow up N bombs all living things will die at the same time electronics will burn and radiation will subside and attack further plus the psychological effect if you burn out enemy troops with neutrons mice brothers and we are not so much in Kyiv it does not work
      2. +4
        30 June 2025 06: 46
        If the kamikaze drone is so good, then what do you need?
        Anti-drone air defense systems so that it not only doesn't hit, but also can't fly at all. And from a soldier to a unit. This is new in the practice of armed struggle.
        That's all. Everything is as usual. The development of the projectile should stimulate the development of armor, and not such extensive discussions in the media, somewhere true, and somewhere wordy and amateurish.
        1. +2
          30 June 2025 10: 13
          Any innovation that significantly changes the conditions on the battlefield requires careful analysis. With UAVs, we are at the beginning of the path to robotization of the battlefield. What were the first tanks? And what are they like now? And given the speed of technology development, the path from Renault FT17 to T90 UAVs will take not 100 years, but 20, and therefore it is very important to try to predict at least the direction of development, because this, despite its simplicity, is a rather complex thing in terms of design options and development possibilities. Even now, the Lancet can attack a target itself, and the operator simply selects it, and in the first Lancets, the operator led the UAV until the very moment of impact, today the Lancet can already hit a target in vulnerable areas independently without an operator. And this is only the beginning of evolution, and only 3 years have passed.
      3. 0
        30 June 2025 08: 43
        There is no such thing as a perfect weapon. The confrontation between the sword and the shield has been going on for 5000 years. There is always an answer. They will find a way to deal with UAVs - it's just a matter of time.
        1. +8
          30 June 2025 10: 15
          Quote: TermNachTER
          They will find a way to control the UAVs too - it's just a matter of time.

          How did the author begin his article?The current combat experience of the SVO is extremely specific due to the fact that the Russian armed forces have not found a way out of the positional deadlock. Despite the fact that there is a way out, and the theory of the positional deadlock is beginning to take shape."
          It was precisely the "positional deadlock" with frontal assaults that became the reason for the rise of UAVs, including kamikaze drones. Established positions, zeroed-in areas... One tank rolled out to a position, dozens of operators "wait" for it. Is this an indicator for conclusions about a big war? So, according to Batko Makhno's tachankas, we should have prepared for the war with Hitler.
          What conclusions can be drawn if the actions of small assault groups are at the forefront, and in three years of the "SVO" there has not been a single military operation at the level of a combined arms army?
          Drawing conclusions on the SVO is like preparing tankers for war in Shoigu's tank biathlon. It's stupid to argue, drones are a reality, but it's one thing when dozens of drones are on one tank from established positions, and a completely different war when hundreds of tanks are breaking through, especially when using nuclear weapons. Where will the operators be, and the drones themselves? Also, instead of including UAV companies in the organizational structure of all regiments and brigades, they wanted to create "unmanned troops" with an incomprehensible structure and incomprehensible interaction with units located on the LBS. Maybe there is something wrong with this strange military operation with its "x"е"rurgami", maybe it's time to seriously let the army fight, and not knock on the doors of endless strongholds, in "endless" villages? Then there won't be any dubious conclusions about dubious tactics. It's too early to bury the tanks.
          1. +3
            30 June 2025 10: 45
            If it comes to nuclear weapons, I think there won't be hundreds of tanks. And where can we get hundreds of them? France has about 300, the British have about 200.
            1. +8
              30 June 2025 11: 50
              Quote: TermNachTER
              And where can I get hundreds of them?
              With such tactics, we will indeed soon wipe out all our warehouses and arsenals in this "SVO", and how many more men we will kill... It seems that this is the main goal of the "grinding".
              Regarding the tanks, I can note (I cannot vouch for the accuracy).
              The state of Russian tanks in the SVO zone: analysis and forecast (April 2025)

              Initial state (February 2022)
              - Active tanks: 2800 units
              - Warehouse reserves: 7505 units
              ◦ Subject to restoration: 3989
              ◦ In poor technical condition (for disassembly only): 3516

              Production and refurbishment (February 2022 – March 2025)
              - Production of new T-90M: 90 units per year (7,5 per month)
              - Restoration of old models:
              ◦ 2022: 1300 per year (108,33 per month)
              ◦ 2023: 1010 per year (84,17 per month)
              ◦ 2024: 510 per year (42,5 per month)
              ◦ From 2025: 310 per year (25,83 per month)
              - Total replenishment: 3074 tanks

              Battle loss
              - Total losses (February 2022 – March 2025): 3847 tanks

              Current status (April 2025)
              - Tanks in the SVO zone: 2027 units
              - Remaining stock in warehouses: 4716 units
              ◦ Subject to restoration: 1200
              ◦ In poor condition (for disassembly only): 3516

              Forecast
              - Current loss rate: 125 tanks per month
              - Current replenishment: 33,33 tanks per month
              (7,5 new + 25,83 refurbished)
              - Monthly balance: -91,67 tanks

              Projected resource depletion
              - Complete exhaustion of the front group: February 4, 2027
              - Complete depletion of renewable reserves: February 2029

              After this, Russia will only be able to count on producing 7,5 new tanks per month, which will not cover the current rate of losses (125 tanks per month).
              1. -3
                30 June 2025 12: 39
                Quote: Per se.
                After this, Russia will only be able to count on producing 7,5 new tanks per month, which will not cover the current rate of losses (125 tanks per month).

                This has been going on for a long time on specialized resources (and me, here on VO), that it is necessary to simplify the design of tanks according to the scheme of the self-propelled guns of the WWII era with a conventional armored cabin.
                1. -2
                  30 June 2025 17: 02
                  We should not simplify the design of tanks, but equip them with APS capable of shooting down drones attacking them. And SPGs do not withstand drone hits at all. They are not suitable for operations near the battle line now.
                  1. -3
                    30 June 2025 17: 27
                    Quote: Sergey Alexandrovich
                    We should not simplify the design of tanks, but equip them with active protection systems capable of shooting down drones attacking them.

                    Let's come down from heaven to earth from wishes to our reality. Do we have a mass-produced expensive APS capable of shooting down attack drones? The answer is NO and when it will appear is unknown.....Let's close this topic..... Yes
                    Quote: Sergey Alexandrovich
                    And self-propelled guns can't withstand drone hits at all. They're not suitable for operations near the battle line right now.

                    Do you mean a self-propelled gun with a howitzer - a cannon? And I mean assault guns like the Su-100, Su-122 for us and the Sturmgeschütz and Jagdpanther for the Germans, with a well-armored cabin. And even better than a tank. These self-propelled guns can be produced faster and cheaper, in order to increase the output of products needed at the front many times over. fellow
              2. BAI
                0
                30 June 2025 22: 01

                Complete exhaustion of renewable reserves: February 2029


                Сonclusion
                Russia produces and modernizes about one tank battalion every month. We are talking primarily about the T-72B3, T-80BVM and T-90M. However, if we are to believe Western sources, the domestic military-industrial complex will increase the production of heavy armored vehicles to 40-50 vehicles per month in the near future thanks to the return of T-80 tanks to the conveyor belt.

                Looks like we'll make it until after 2029
          2. -1
            30 June 2025 16: 14
            Hello, it's the other way around - there were no "hundreds of tanks" because as soon as the forces for a breakthrough were more or less accumulated, "khimars" would fly at them. And the Ukrainians had the same thing, but in reverse. And if some forces did try to break through, they would run into minefields, get stuck, and again come under artillery fire.

            Your argumentation is at the level of "we haven't started yet."
            1. +1
              1 July 2025 06: 27
              Quote from Evil Eye
              Your argumentation is at the level of "we haven't started yet."
              This is the argument of those who have fireworks and holidays in Russia, with the first economy in Europe. "And we haven't even started yet," and it's high time to start, especially if you remember the menacing speech in February 2022.
              And if some forces did break through?
              What breakthrough? They didn't have time to bring in troops, and immediately went for a deal in Istanbul? What breakthrough, with frontal assaults and self-restraint, plus, "we fight here, we trade there"? How our grandfathers fought, how they broke through the German defenses where they were not expected, how the Germans bypassed the same Maginot Line, how they advanced towards Moscow and the Volga with pincers and envelopments? It's time to start and long ago.
              1. -1
                1 July 2025 19: 20
                *There should be a bleeped out expletive here* Do you realize that the article is about how things should be done, not how the current regime did things?
                1. 0
                  2 July 2025 06: 20
                  Quote from Evil Eye
                  you understand that the article is written about how everything should be done
                  There is no other way to do it under the "current regime". What is being proposed is a kind of correction of what is being done in this "strange war". In order to win, it is not the "strange war" that needs to be corrected, but rather we need to fight seriously, and not (prohibited curse word) suffer.
                  1. -2
                    2 July 2025 23: 37
                    And how do you imagine "war in earnest"? Hundreds of tanks, infantrymen with "Kalashnikovs" without collimators riding on armor, tractors pulling towed artillery?
                    1. +1
                      3 July 2025 10: 02
                      How do I imagine it? Firstly, if they didn't send troops to Ukraine in 2014, they saw that Nazism was getting stronger for 8 years, then why didn't they build up their forces, especially if the Banderites presented themselves as allied with NATO? Why wasn't a sufficiently strong group created for the invasion? Why was the preemptive strike so diffuse and ineffective? Reread the menacing speech of our guarantor, where were all those threats from the category "let them just try"? There were no strikes on decision-making centers, the enemy's logistics were not disrupted, and many other things were not done, including sending troops bypassing fortified areas and entering operational space. With "Kalash" without collimators, what can we say, with pikes on horses, if we're being sarcastic. We are a nuclear power, and they wipe their feet on us, with endless "red lines" and snot-chewing. It is not surprising if the selfish interests of the henpecked Western fat cats prevail over the national interests of the Russian people.
                      1. -2
                        3 July 2025 15: 02
                        >> if they didn't send troops into Ukraine in 2014

                        This is politics, don't drag politics into it. If they had introduced it, the Armed Forces would have remained at the level of a "professional peacetime police army" and we would have been unable to derive from this case the image of the ground forces needed in the event that the enemy, such a b...tch, resists. Of course, it would have been better for the state, there would have been no losses or victims, but the question of where to reform what would not have been clarified - on the contrary, everything would have probably been mothballed for another 20 years.

                        >> Why wasn’t a group of the required strength created?

                        What should it look like and how should it operate? Well, okay, if we criticize the fact that "they didn't introduce it in 14, they didn't introduce it in 22", then it is clear that we should have used the troops that we have, only more effectively.
                        True, even in this case, "using everything that is available" would be problematic, for example, due to the lack of supply vehicles. And there is nowhere to get them from except in civilian life, and this - all the accompanying problems such as insufficient protection. So even in this case, certain steps towards at least a minimal revision of the staffing levels would be required.
                        And what are the conclusions for the next decade? Again, "what is"?

                        >>There were no attacks on decision-making centers, the enemy's logistics were not disrupted

                        Lana, here's a concrete example. Logistics. In the context of Ukraine, disruption of logistics is attacks on bridges across the Dnieper. We cut off everything along the Dnieper, they gain time and the situation is the same as now, only the front would be further west. What next?
                        As for the CPR - politics again, well, ok, let's assume that they would have struck, but after some time the enemy's command would have been restored on a network basis, without obvious headquarters, etc. And the talking heads and planners would have moved to the West. So what to do? It's better to proceed from the fact that one well-aimed blow will not decapitate the enemy for long.

                        >> introduction of troops bypassing fortified areas and entering operational space.

                        This has already been discussed. It's not just someone's incompetence, but also the fact that when trying to bypass, the troops were detected and hit by artillery and UAVs. And they ran into mines. Again, a systemic problem, when we fought the Germans, this did not happen. What are the conclusions? Is the author right when he writes about the need to create a "mechanized cavalry" that would provide for such situations, or is he wrong?
                        Or will it not be "like in Ukraine" anymore and the experience of this conflict should not be taken into account? And in which direction will it not be - will there no longer be such a predominance of drones or will there no longer be a conflict with a culturally close enemy under the leadership of incompetent corrupt officials? And next time the difference from Ukraine will not be that it will be "like before" with riding on armor and hundreds of tanks, but that it will be even worse?
                      2. +1
                        4 July 2025 06: 40
                        Quote from Evil Eye
                        This is politics, don't drag politics into it.
                        War without politics is impossible. As Carl von Clausewitz said, -War is nothing more than a continuation of politics, using other means".
                        I will also say that those who want to look for opportunities, and those who do not want reasons. Many reasons were found, that is why SVO has already entered its fourth year. There is no point in arguing, we will stick to our opinions. Yes, SVO's experience will certainly be taken into account, both in how to do things and in how not to do them. All the best to you.
        2. +1
          30 June 2025 10: 25
          Easy! I even know what it will be - force fields will move from the realm of fantasy closer to life
          1. 0
            30 June 2025 10: 47
            There is electronic warfare, they are starting to use lasers. There has always been an answer to any weapon, and there will be one for UAVs too. I have no doubts at all - it's just a matter of time.
            1. -1
              30 June 2025 16: 15
              There were answers to aviation, but aviation still rules the battlefield, despite air defense.
              1. -1
                30 June 2025 18: 52
                It rules, but only from a very long distance. And as the range of the SAM system increases, the further. Accordingly, the cost of the ASP will increase.
                1. -1
                  30 June 2025 19: 44
                  Did you know that the Americans managed to suppress aviation back in Vietnam?
                  1. -3
                    30 June 2025 20: 54
                    I know that American Marines threw Vietnamese generals out of helicopters in Saigon to load their prostitutes. Now that's a sign of American superiority.
                    1. 0
                      30 June 2025 21: 17
                      This is going off topic. Absolutely any topic of military construction can be chatted away like this.
                      1. -3
                        30 June 2025 23: 15
                        This is not a digression - this is the result. Maybe they knew how, but everyone knows how Vietnam ended.
    2. +4
      30 June 2025 05: 41
      Quote: abc_alex
      May the moderators and the author forgive me, but it feels like someone is stuck on a UAV.

      There is a grain of truth in the publication, and much in our armed forces needs to be changed. But, the endless passages like: "were described by the author in the article"," described in the author's article" and "due to the factors described in the article "Maybe the author is not doing his job and he should teach at the General Staff Academy?
      1. +2
        30 June 2025 07: 11
        Quote: Bongo
        Maybe the author is doing something that is not his business and he should teach at the General Staff Academy?

        Vasily Ivanovich! Can you command a world army?
        1. -2
          30 June 2025 09: 28
          And the swine, and the reaper, and the dude
          1. -2
            30 June 2025 10: 26
            And in general - it's all over........
      2. +3
        30 June 2025 07: 16
        I wonder if a motorized rifle battalion on an armored personnel carrier is given several Urals with TPKs to launch lancets, a reconnaissance platoon is given the same Ural to launch reconnaissance UAVs, an electronic warfare platoon is added to the communications platoon, with the transfer of all personnel not on armored personnel carriers from Urals/KamAZs to MRAPs and the addition of a forward air-artillery gunner equipped with space communications equipment to the structure, wouldn't it turn out exactly as the author proposed.
        On the path to implementation, I see the problem of a shortage of trained personnel in particular and a shortage of people and resources in general.
        I agree with the author about the idea of ​​a heavy mech battalion.
        But a third type of troops is also needed - line infantry, occupying and holding positions, conducting their engineering preparation, performing checkpoint service and ensuring supplies to the near rear. That is, doing approximately the same as today's volunteers in the trenches, but without storming strongholds.

        How fair do you think this organization of the Armed Forces is?
      3. 0
        30 June 2025 16: 16
        Make the author the Minister of War, and Klimov the Minister of the Navy. I'm not joking.
    3. +4
      30 June 2025 06: 00
      Quote: abc_alex
      Forgive me, moderators and the author, but it feels like someone is obsessed with UAVs. Listing the absurdities in the article would make the text longer than the article itself.
      For example, this one:
      To make it even clearer, a company of such armored vehicles, entering Ukraine along the Belgorod-Kharkov road and bypassing Kharkov along the bypass road from the west, could you can get almost there on one tank of gas to the bypass road Of Lviv.

      ... and what should it do there? Experience of such "light infantry" at different times and in different forms has happened before. And each time negative. Tanks did not appear in the cavalry immediately, but after machine guns and magazine rifles reduced to "zero" the effectiveness of horse "lavas". The same problem appeared in parachute units during the Great Patriotic War. Without heavy weapons and in isolation from the supply system, ANY breakthrough is doomed and such infantry are suicide bombers.

      The author's "UAV fetishism" looks no less strange. Is this the first miracle munition that can "bury tanks"? Of course not. There were years when long-barreled AT guns and sub-caliber shells seemed an invincible means. Then cumulative ammunition, then ATGMs, attack helicopters... And all of this has always had and will always have one immutable property: they do not care whether there is a tank or an IFV in front of them. They simply damage the tank and dismantle the IFV for nuts and bolts. Rearming the army from tanks to IFVs will not change anything on the battlefield. Of course, the tanks themselves and the tactics of their use must change. But this is an ongoing process anyway.

      What I support the author in is that there is no point in trying to make an "armored bus" that "delirious wankers" and other apologists of "heavy infantry fighting vehicles with tank armor" are raving about. An infantry assault vehicle is one thing, an armored APC is another.

      I'm just wondering where the author is going to attack? The Baltics, Poland, and further to the English Channel? In the event of a conflict with NATO, thousands of missiles will be launched at all of Russia's defense enterprises, therefore it is necessary to improve air defense structures, develop new systems, and create positional areas. Otherwise, the enemy can knock out these areas one by one, concentrating hundreds and thousands of missiles. And of course, it is necessary to immediately use tactical nuclear weapons and medium-range missiles to discourage further fighting. Because we will not be able to survive a war with all of NATO.
      1. -1
        30 June 2025 16: 17
        If we reason like this (NATO uses thousands of missiles, and we don’t, NATO attacks targets one by one, and we sit and wait for the next target to be destroyed, etc.), then it’s better to surrender right away.
        1. 0
          30 June 2025 17: 01
          Quote from Evil Eye
          then it's better to give up right away.

          The question is who has more missiles and who can produce them faster.
          Of course, you can not give in, but resist like Ukraine or Japan. The only question is how many men will remain after this in a country that is already poor in demographics.
          1. -2
            30 June 2025 17: 32
            Or maybe it's also about other outdated things, like strategy, like the doctrine of unacceptable damage? And not just about who has more rackets.
    4. +3
      30 June 2025 07: 20
      The author also forgets that very often “specialized troops” end up in the wrong place - in the event of an enemy attack.
      "The headquarters repelled the enemy attack" - this was encountered even in 1945.
      And the author proposes to further intensify this chaos - called war.
      1. +1
        30 June 2025 10: 19
        I would like to add that the paradox of the situation is that the attack aircraft suffer fewer losses than the reinforcement groups....
      2. 0
        30 June 2025 12: 32
        Quote: your1970
        The author also forgets that very often “specialized troops” end up in the wrong place - in the event of an enemy attack.
        "The headquarters repelled the enemy attack" - this was encountered even in 1945.

        In April 1945!
        The regiment's command platoon was used for the counterattack, supported by the regiment commander's armored personnel carrier.
        © Isaev, from the description of the battle of the 320th Guards IPTAP near Halbe
        Or an even more common case - in almost every operation, both defensive and offensive:
        Under pressure from the enemy, the infantry retreated and left the batteries without cover.

        Result:
        The regiment's batteries, covered by the wave of the German attack, were isolated from each other and maintained contact via radio and telephone. The entire personnel of the regiment retrained as infantry and fought back with personal weapons, grenades and Faustpatrones. Lend-Lease armored personnel carriers from the regiment's command also found use in the battle. They sowed death in the disorderly ranks of the Germans with fire from large-caliber machine guns.
        © Isaev, from the description of the battle of the 321th Guards IPTAP near Halbe
        1. -2
          30 June 2025 17: 09
          By the way, it is not such a rare practice when a communications platoon and a commandant's platoon are thrown to cover bottlenecks. It was and will be so. I have just never heard of an orchestra being thrown into battle. And combat support units are combat support units.
          1. -1
            1 July 2025 00: 04
            Quote: Sergey Alexandrovich
            I have never heard of an orchestra being thrown into battle.
            Russo-Japanese War 1904-05. Battle of Mukden February-March 1905. 214th Mokshansky the regiment was surrounded, ammunition was almost gone, the regiment commander, Colonel P. Pobyvanets, gave the order "Banner and orchestra - forward!" Bandmaster I. Shatrov told the orchestra "Musicians, our time has come!" And the orchestra, playing a combat march on the move, went on the attack. The regiment broke out of encirclement. The orchestra was 61 musicians - came out of the battle alive 7 orchestra members.
            hi
      3. 0
        30 June 2025 15: 40
        Pilots and sailors also need to be taught how to repel enemy attacks first. And military doctors. Otherwise, as soon as you're about to operate on a person, the enemy will attack, and you'll have to grab a machine gun and fight back.
        1. -3
          30 June 2025 17: 20
          Just so you know, the commandant's platoon includes anti-aircraft gunners, whose task is precisely to defend the headquarters.
          Some discoverers of America. You need to know the staff of the SME, not fantasize in your spare time.
          1. 0
            30 June 2025 17: 29
            But they need to be taught first and foremost combined arms combat - otherwise tanks might suddenly jump out from around the corner at the anti-aircraft gunners.
            1. -1
              30 June 2025 17: 38
              What are you saying? Signalmen and commandants are like archangels in the flesh, even pacifists. laughing They don’t know how to shoot at all and have never held a machine gun in their hands. bully All motorized riflemen come straight from kindergarten to the army.
              Himself is not funny? wassat
              1. 0
                30 June 2025 18: 35
                I don't. All servicemen must be able to fight, but if all signalmen, doctors, artillerymen and so on learn to run with a machine gun first and foremost, and perform their main task last, the results will be disastrous.
                1. 0
                  30 June 2025 18: 39
                  No need to talk nonsense. Everyone goes through or has gone through either a young soldier's course or a training course. It seems that you, sir, have not served in the army, if you are bringing such things to the masses, and even persisting.
                  1. -1
                    30 June 2025 18: 44
                    Now scroll up this thread and read what was written at the top:

                    "All too often, "specialized troops" end up in the wrong place - in the event of an enemy attack."
                    "the infantry retreated and left the batteries without cover... the regiment's personnel retrained as infantry and fought back with personal weapons, grenades and Faustpatrones."

                    According to your logic, this is the norm of life, and this is what we need to prepare for.
                    1. -1
                      30 June 2025 18: 48
                      This is war, baby, and they were and are preparing for it. And if you have no idea how military service went and goes, even approximately, then why are you lecturing?
                      1. -1
                        30 June 2025 19: 41
                        Well, yes, war is a mess, military service is a mess, but to bring order to a mess is, according to your like-minded people, "to increase chaos." Reducing chaos is increasing chaos, chaos is order, black is white. Straight out of the Ministry of Truth from 1984.
    5. 0
      30 June 2025 07: 59
      Quote: abc_alex
      to the Lviv bypass road.

      ... and what should she do there? The experience of such "light infantry" has happened before at different times and in different forms. And each time it was negative.

      What do you mean? Wait for heavy reinforcements. A deep breakthrough is a fantasy level now. But that doesn't mean it's not needed at all. It's very much needed! But it's unachievable (I hope for now) in our conditions.
      1. +1
        30 June 2025 11: 06
        What do you mean? Wait for heavy reinforcements. A deep breakthrough is a fantasy level now. But that doesn't mean it's not needed at all. It's very much needed! But it's unachievable (I hope for now) in our conditions.

        Achievable. There just aren't enough troops, the forces are equal.
        The principle of concentrating forces and resources in the direction of the main attack has also been completely forgotten.
        The leadership and the population are not yet ready for mass losses.
        The war is just so murky. Not even a war, but some kind of SVO)). belay

        But in principle, everything has been invented long ago before us. fool

        Everything that is pounding the stoker Mykola in Ternopil - on narrow sections of the front to the right and left of Kharkov to a depth of 200 km, along supply routes, to the Dnieper itself and further if necessary.

        Directly along the front line - aviation en masse at a width of 20-30 km in the breakthrough zones, then artillery, but after the UAV operators have been suppressed. Then the infantry enters the breakthrough areas, even with tanks.
        Directions: 1 - Krasnaya Yaruga - Bogodukhov - Valki, 2 - Valuyki - Shevchenkovo ​​- Zlatopol.
        We close the ring in the Berestin area.

        Next, two rings of encirclement, internal and external, 3 weeks to strangle Kharkov.
        Kharkov is the key to the entire Left Bank.

        The only thing left to do is to call up 2 million, arm them, prepare for a couple of months, and be prepared for losses of 150-200 thousand. If there is stubborn resistance, do not limit yourself to tactical nuclear weapons, they were invented for the stubborn. wink
        1. -1
          30 June 2025 16: 22
          "aviation en masse at a width of 20 - 30 km"

          Beautiful, but what if we consider that the enemy has air defense? And how to concentrate forces for the main attacks, if "khimars" fly at them? And how can you completely suppress UAV operators before the infantry advance without the infantry itself and without your own UAVs? With spells? And does it matter that long-range artillery does not shoot at 20-30 km? And what to do with minefields? And how to supply these 2 million people, even if they are mobilized?

          It's all very well to simply repeat that something needs to be done "according to the textbook," but when it turns out that it is impossible to do it exactly as the textbook says, then you need to look for new approaches.
          1. -1
            30 June 2025 17: 50
            Beautiful, but what if we consider that the enemy has air defense? And how to concentrate forces for the main attacks, if "khimars" fly at them? And how can you completely suppress UAV operators before the infantry advance without the infantry itself and without your own UAVs? With spells? And does it matter that long-range artillery does not shoot at 20-30 km? And what to do with minefields? And how to supply these 2 million people, even if they are mobilized?

            It's all very well to simply repeat that something needs to be done "according to the textbook," but when it turns out that it is impossible to do it exactly as the textbook says, then you need to look for new approaches.

            All this was in WWII. And things with Messers were racing, and artillery, and air defense, and even Haimars. They were called V-1.

            But no one was beating Germany with splayed fingers; they gnawed through the front, bit off pieces and moved on.
            1. -1
              30 June 2025 18: 37
              In WWII tank wedges worked, but now it simply doesn't work, the whole article is about that. And then it was possible to advance even under bombs, albeit with losses, but now it is not.
              1. -1
                30 June 2025 18: 58
                . In WWII tank wedges worked, but now it simply doesn't work, the whole article is about that. And then it was possible to advance even under bombs, albeit with losses, but now it is not.

                Of course not. If there is a battalion there and a battalion here, what kind of wedges can there be, only this kind of positional fuss. feel

                To break through, you need a numerical advantage, and a significant one at that. And you don't have it. That's the problem, not the UAVs.

                Do you think that if, instead of drones, equivalent conventional aviation had been used, as in WWII, we would have broken through the defense? laughing
                1. -1
                  30 June 2025 19: 46
                  They would have broken through if it had been modern aviation with modern tactics. The whole world was waiting for this - that it would all be over in a month.

                  To break through, you need a numerical advantage, and a significant one at that. And you don't have it. That's the problem, not the UAVs.


                  Is it okay that as soon as you start to build up your "numerical advantage", the enemy immediately uses some Khimars or other high-precision analogue against it?
    6. +7
      30 June 2025 10: 25
      Forgive me, moderators and the author, but it feels like someone is stuck on a UAV. The absurdities in the article


      Of course, the main task of our country after the Second World War will be to study such a phenomenon as “learning disability”.
      1. 0
        30 June 2025 16: 15
        All higher mammals have the ability to learn. By introducing new terminology like "heavy infantry", "mechanized cavalry" and "non-tank troops and non-motorized rifle troops", we forget about the already established concepts of "winged infantry" (read: Airborne Forces), marines (landing only from the sea), motorized riflemen (starting from units on MT-LB, BTR and up to battalions in tank divisions), national guard, special forces brigades... And all this is, by and large, INFANTRY! What are we going to reformat them into? And where are we going to attach the newest "VBS", to the Aerospace Forces, Ground Forces or Navy? A quick immediate response to a sudden challenge is rarely viable in the long term, but financially and materially - it is always ruinous.
        1. -2
          30 June 2025 17: 32
          But no, it is quite certain military leaders who are unable to learn and are not receptive to information. They should be the subject of genuine interest.
          .. Major Kuznetsov arrives in Kobrin on June 17, 1941 and obtains an appointment with the commander of the 4th Army of the Red Army, Major General Alexander Korobkov, and reports to him the real situation on the state border.
          The report includes a list of forces concentrated by the German command, the presence of landing craft and the identified artillery positions. The border guard major demands that all this information be reported to the very top at the General Staff of the Red Army. In addition, he makes a forecast that a major military operation will begin within 10 days at the most and suggests to the commander that the rifle divisions take up prepared positions along the state border behind the border guards. On the recommendation of the NKGB of the USSR, Kuznetsov suggests to Korobkov, without waiting for the decision of the district headquarters in Minsk, to form separate engineering and sabotage companies to strengthen the protection of the border bridges.
          There was an urgent need to cover the border
          Major General Korobkov will evaluate the reasonableness of all the proposals of the border guard major on the morning of June 22, but on June 17 he can think of nothing better to do than to arrest the head of the border detachment for panic and exaggeration of the enemy’s strength.

          On July 22, 1941, the Military Collegium of the Supreme Court of the USSR found him guilty under Articles 93-17b and 193-20b of the Criminal Code of the RSFSR - "negligence" and "failure to fulfill his official duties", stripped of his military rank, awards and sentenced to death. He was shot on the same day.
  3. +12
    30 June 2025 04: 53
    In addition, it will be necessary to radically improve the combat effectiveness of strike aircraft.

    The first and last mention of aviation in the so-called prospective Armed Forces. That is, in the author's opinion, aviation does not play any special role because? Why? But the red line through the entire article is "drones, drones, drones...".
    Drones are a substitute, a crutch due to the lack of modern aviation. Although literally the other day Israel showed what modern aviation is and what role it plays in war. Now regarding the proposed concept. It is a dead end and will not lead to an exit from positional warfare because the enemy is not deprived of the ability to maneuver reserves and deliver ammunition. Because railway junctions and bridges are working. A drone cannot destroy a bridge, and you can’t stock up on so much “ballistics”. And a ballistic missile is essentially ONE 500 kg aerial bomb. while one F-15E Strike Eagle can carry 8 kg. of guided aerial bombs. Also, the issue of destroying command posts and communication nodes located in the rear, inaccessible to artillery and MLRS, is not resolved, the issue of suppressing troop control with electronic warfare systems is not resolved. Therefore, without modern aviation capable of capturing the enemy’s skies, positional warfare is inevitable.
    1. -8
      30 June 2025 05: 07
      Quote: Puncher
      Therefore, without modern aviation capable of capturing enemy skies, positional warfare is inevitable.
      In today's conditions, with the presence of serious air defense, "capturing the sky" is simply impossible. As an argument against, the recently ended Iranian-Israeli conflict should not be offered
      1. +7
        30 June 2025 05: 21
        Quote: Dutchman Michel
        In today's conditions, with the presence of serious air defense, it is simply impossible to "capture the sky"

        What do you base your statements on?

        Quote: Dutchman Michel
        the recently ended Iran-Israel conflict is not to be offered

        "Is it different"?
        1. -6
          30 June 2025 08: 11
          Quote: Puncher
          What do you base your statements on?
          SVO. Why go far?
          1. -1
            1 July 2025 04: 58
            Quote: Dutchman Michel
            SVO. Why go far?

            So you think that if the VKS couldn't do it, it means it's impossible? Well, Ukraine's air defense was worse than Iran's air defense, which consisted of ancient junk that had outlived all possible storage periods.
            1. +1
              1 July 2025 05: 01
              Quote: Puncher
              In fact, Ukraine's air defense was worse than Iran's air defense
              If all this were so, then our strategists would have blown the whole of Ukraine to pieces. wink
              1. -1
                1 July 2025 05: 10
                Quote: Dutchman Michel
                If all this were so, then our strategists would have blown the whole of Ukraine to pieces.

                Our strategists tried this in hopeless Georgia and lost one aircraft. They didn't even try in Ukraine. It's not about Ukraine's air defense, but about the Russian Aerospace Forces, which are not capable of conducting such operations.
                1. +1
                  1 July 2025 05: 53
                  Quote: Puncher
                  The issue is not with Ukraine's air defense, but with the Russian Aerospace Forces, which are not capable of conducting such operations.
                  And how capable they are! I served a third of my life there and I know what I'm talking about. laughing
                  1. -1
                    1 July 2025 08: 09
                    Quote: Dutchman Michel
                    And how capable they are! I served a third of my life there and I know what I'm talking about.

                    And I see that the sky over Ukraine does not belong to the Russian Federation
                    1. +1
                      1 July 2025 10: 36
                      Quote: Puncher
                      And I see that the sky over Ukraine does not belong to the Russian Federation
                      I see it too
      2. +6
        30 June 2025 06: 05
        Quote: Dutchman Michel
        Quote: Puncher
        Therefore, without modern aviation capable of capturing enemy skies, positional warfare is inevitable.
        In today's conditions, with the presence of serious air defense, "capturing the sky" is simply impossible. As an argument against, the recently ended Iranian-Israeli conflict should not be offered

        What kind of serious air defense does Ukraine have? The positional area near Kiev has long been known. I think it would not be difficult to destroy it with a strike from two dozen Iskanders and daggers. The whole issue turns out to be in reconnaissance and target designation, and this is already a question for Roscosmos
      3. +1
        30 June 2025 08: 12
        Quote: Dutchman Michel
        In today's conditions, with the presence of serious air defense, it is simply impossible to "capture the sky".

        Serious air defense has been preserved only thanks to Western supplies. The conclusion from this is simple. And it was made at the very beginning of the military campaign in 2022. Without disrupting supply logistics, it is possible to fight (and grind) until the second coming.
        And we return again to our notorious bridges, tunnels and junction railway stations.
        1. -4
          30 June 2025 08: 14
          Quote: Stas157
          Serious air defense was preserved only thanks to Western supplies
          The origin of the air defense is completely unimportant, the main thing is that it exists. I agree with you on everything else.
      4. 0
        30 June 2025 17: 19
        Ukraine's air defense is alive first and foremost, thanks to the "untouchable" NATO airspace illumination systems! No one touches them and doesn't really interfere with their work, if they interfere at all, this is a feature of PROXY warfare, you can hit the proxy, but not the boss!
        The second reason is that the Aerospace Forces are not sufficiently equipped with modern air defense suppression systems; everyone is talking about this!
        Probably, without NATO participation, the Ukrainian air defense would have been truly suppressed and our aviation could have attacked targets deep in the defense.
        Perhaps in a real war with NATO, their surveillance systems would also be subject to fire and air defense would hardly be as effective as in the conditions of the NWO.

        In the Air Defense Forces, huge shortcomings in the Aerospace Forces were revealed, but it is definitely impossible to draw conclusions that aviation lost to air defense or vice versa, there are too many conventions here!
    2. -2
      30 June 2025 05: 51
      Israel showed what, and most importantly how? Air power alone does not solve anything. Consider that they wasted a half-year military budget in less than a week, and what was the result? The attack on the TV channel building as a vivid example of impotence.
      1. +4
        30 June 2025 06: 02
        Quote: Darkdimon
        Aviation alone doesn't solve anything.

        Well, that's clear. And what comes after? Destruction of the rear infrastructure. Blocking of transportation, etc. according to the "textbook", which allows ground forces to conduct a successful offensive. Drones are good when they exist, of course, but what's the point of them if they're in a train car in the rear, like shells.
        1. -3
          30 June 2025 06: 18
          I fully agree that drones are not a panacea. If the conflict continued, Iran's air defense could have worked better (they shot down Israeli drones), and with supplies from allies they could have completely offset the losses (paid Chinese experts immediately appeared that Iran did not need help).
          1. -1
            1 July 2025 05: 03
            Quote: Darkdimon
            Iran's air defense could have worked

            This is impossible. Air defense is a huge, well-coordinated complex of forces and means that is configured in peacetime, including both ground and air assets. If they are destroyed, then it will not be possible to assemble them.
            Quote: Darkdimon
            with supplies from the allies, the losses could be completely offset

            The Allies can only supply what they have. To use these means, you need to study for months. If your opponent is a blockhead, he will give you this time. But it is difficult to call the Jews blockheads.
    3. +3
      30 June 2025 06: 11
      Quote: Puncher
      while one F-15E Strike Eagle can carry 8 kg of guided bombs

      An aircraft, even in an unmanned version (i.e. a drone), can carry so much. After all, it is possible to remove the pilot from the cockpit and organize remote control, and in minor cases, simply automatic control. And the same can be done with tank crews and infantrymen, replacing the machine gun in their hands with a controller for self-propelled mines.
      1. 0
        30 June 2025 08: 17
        Quote: ycuce234-san
        And the same can be done with tankers and infantrymen, replacing the machine gun in their hands with a controller for self-propelled mines
        Something tells me that this is exactly what will be done in the very near future. wink
      2. -1
        1 July 2025 05: 04
        Quote: ycuce234-san
        It is possible to remove the pilot from the cockpit and organize remote control

        Theoretically, there is such a possibility now. Through the Starlink network, but it has not been implemented yet.
        1. 0
          1 July 2025 06: 28
          But it also became clear why the Russian Federation needs to have this network in its own autonomous version - for example, it can be provided to its temporary allies and fellow travelers in exchange for benefits. Weapons are no longer interesting if they do not have a network component.
          1. -2
            1 July 2025 08: 13
            Quote: ycuce234-san
            why does the Russian Federation need to have this network

            There is a huge gap between NADA and USING.
    4. -1
      30 June 2025 07: 15
      Quote: Puncher
      Although just the other day Israel showed what modern aviation is and what role it plays in war.

      Israel has shown that we are in OURS(!!!) realities having flown through FRIENDLY belay Poland belay and Norway belay - bombed Germany belay At the same time, the air defense of Poland and Norway shot down German missiles flying at us.
      Aviation either fulfilled the assigned task of destroying potential nuclear weapons or not
      So the Israeli air force didn't show us anything valuable.
      1. -5
        30 June 2025 08: 20
        Quote: your1970
        So the Israeli air force didn't show us anything valuable.
        In today's reality, aviation can only be effective if the enemy has no air defense. This is exactly what the Israeli aviation has shown everyone.
        1. +1
          30 June 2025 14: 38
          Quote: Dutchman Michel
          In today's reality, aviation can only be effective if the enemy has no air defense.

          Why didn't Iran have air defense? They even had S-300s
      2. +1
        30 June 2025 10: 32
        Quote: your1970
        Israel showed that in OUR (!!!) reality, having flown through FRIENDLY Poland and Norway, we bombed Germany. At the same time, the air defense of Poland and Norway shot down German missiles flying at us.

        Israel flies through Syria mostly, the Syrians do not shoot down Iranian missiles flying in response, they have nothing with which to do so. The problem is not that, Iran cannot do anything with aviation. The Jews have to fly about 2000 km to the border with Iran, to eastern Iran, almost 3000 km. Air defense in the west is completely suppressed, in the center it is focal, at least something remains on the border with Pakistan. Despite the fact that there is no ground offensive. Our situation was a little different, we have to fly much closer, a successful ground offensive is underway, with normal reconnaissance and aviation (normal ammunition, not Hephaestus with cast iron) with air defense in the east and center of Ukraine it should have been finished in a week at most, and then aviation would have hung over the theater of operations 24/7. It is unclear why the descendant of Subedei did not pay attention to aviation, although in all the recent major conflicts it made the main contribution to the victory.
        Quote: your1970
        So the Israeli air force didn't show us anything valuable.

        Yes, until a normal aviation structure and its material component (AEW and RER aircraft, reconnaissance aircraft, ammunition) are created and reconnaissance work is not established, this information is useless for us.
      3. 0
        30 June 2025 17: 29
        Quote: your1970
        So the Israeli air force didn't show us anything valuable.

        It showed that Iran really needs modern aviation, now the Iranian Air Force is a museum!
        And the Iranian air defense, on a modern Iranian technical base, only looks like a modern air defense system visually, but is not actually combat-ready!
        This is important information for political decisions.
        1. -2
          30 June 2025 18: 00
          Quote: Eroma
          This is important information for political decisions.

          And what effect does this have on us?
          We know the importance of air defense and air force.
          Give them modern aviation and air defense systems?
          We have them - but we have SVO, we ourselves don’t really...
          1. +1
            30 June 2025 18: 19
            At least to understand how much one can count on such an ally in the event of universal turmoil, or whether he still needs to be protected!
            And then many, many other questions arise that need to be resolved, discussed with partners and how much cash can be raised or, on the contrary, what urgently needs to be forked out for
            1. -3
              30 June 2025 18: 35
              Quote: Eroma
              At least to understand how much one can count on such an ally in the event of universal turmoil, or whether he still needs to be protected!

              In the case of universal (but exactly like this!!) belay We'll have to start dumping warheads all over our neighbors - so that God forbid they don't come to us later. A wasteland for a couple thousand kilometers around, without a lot of population...
              And we certainly won’t defend Iran...

              The only truly loyal ally we have in history is Mongolia in WWII. All the rest are "allies" (that's what the Afghans called those who sat out the Soviet Union by any means, including buying and drinking the urine of jaundiced people), nothing more...
              1. +2
                1 July 2025 16: 39
                Our only truly loyal ally in history was Mongolia in WWII.


                The DPRK, which sent troops to recapture villages in the Kursk region, also doesn’t count.
                If I become president, I will only be able to access the Internet with a certificate from a psychiatrist.
                And nothing else.
                1. -1
                  1 July 2025 17: 19
                  Quote: timokhin-aa
                  If I become president, I will only be able to access the Internet with a certificate from a psychiatrist.
                  And nothing else.

                  Psychiatrists say that there are no healthy people - there are those who have not been examined properly... And you will be the only one sitting on the Internet...
                  And your desire to bother at least 90 million people with obtaining certificates strongly smacks of psychiatry. Given that only an inpatient examination can provide any guarantees of the authenticity of these certificates.

                  And yes, I don't consider the DPRK an ally just because of sending some short number of troops in the Kursk region.
                  Mongolia was a real selfless ally in WWII, and we will learn everything about the Koreans in the Kursk region in about 30 years - including about their interest.
    5. -3
      30 June 2025 10: 28
      Article about the Ground Forces.
      Not about aviation.
      Not about the fleet.
      Not about cyber troops.
      Not about military medicine.
      Not about radio intelligence.
      Not about [insert here].
      That's why there is something about SV in the article, but not about [insert here].

      Just in case - the absence of abstract thinking in the presence of concrete thinking is a very bad sign.
      1. -1
        1 July 2025 04: 56
        Quote: timokhin-aa
        Article about the Ground Forces.

        Separated from aviation? You don't know its role in interaction or haven't thought of it?
        1. +1
          1 July 2025 16: 37
          What if I wrote about aviation, but didn’t write about communications?
          You would write that I am against the use of radio communications, right?
          And if I had written about the connection too, I would have been accused of neglecting medical service issues, apparently.
          1. -3
            2 July 2025 04: 33
            Quote: timokhin-aa
            What if I wrote about aviation, but didn’t write about communications?

            Alexander, with all my respect for your work, you have set yourself a task where there are no trifles and nothing fundamental can be missed. And aviation is the most important element.
    6. 0
      30 June 2025 16: 25
      >> aviation does not have any special role because?

      Because
      a) we will have to restore the aviation industry, if not from scratch, then from a very low level, and there will always be a shortage of aviation
      b) the enemy has air defense
      c) So you struck with aircraft, but the enemy did not lose combat capability, AND WHAT NEXT?
    7. 0
      1 July 2025 14: 29
      Just the other day Israel showed what modern aviation is


      In the absence of a modern air defense system from the enemy. And even then, the outdated Iranian one had to be worked on very seriously.
  4. +4
    30 June 2025 05: 02
    new Ground Forces. They should be formed taking into account the combat experience of the SVO
    The author suggests starting to prepare for the last war, as it always happened? However, who knows what the next war will be like
    1. +4
      30 June 2025 07: 30
      Quote: Dutchman Michel
      The author suggests starting to prepare for the last war, as it always happened? However, who knows what the next war will be like

      Very correctly noted! The key phrase: "What will the next war be like?" Example: SVO! (They were preparing for "one" war; but got "another"!) Could something similar happen in the future! Reliance on UAVs? And if "soon" an "antidote" is found? (EMP munitions, microwave "guns"! They are already being created!) And then what? They lost artillery and tanks, and the drone supplies burned up in electromagnetic radiation, like moths flying into a fire! How to beat the enemy and defend your own ass? P.S. The same can be said for other "points"! By the way, the author, in my opinion, said nothing about the role of drones (ground or... "hovercraft"!) in the arsenal of "heavy infantry and mechanized cavalry"!
  5. +1
    30 June 2025 06: 05
    The tank has not been invulnerable since World War II, but it was and will be an effective means. The author forgets that tank protection will be improved, and the tanks themselves can (or rather already) become autonomous.
    1. 0
      30 June 2025 18: 22
      The tank in the Second World War was more invulnerable than in the First. Then tanks generally fell apart and some immediately ran to bury them
  6. -3
    30 June 2025 06: 09
    It is obvious that things WILL NOT be like before, and to insist on returning everything to how it was... no, no, there are no such people anymore.
    The assumption... "wars of the future" are wars of economies, first of all... this is the conclusion that comes to mind if you read the article. The small and proud don't have to poke around, they won't be able to prepare as they need to, alone, anyway, and if they are under someone, on someone's payroll, then how small and proud they are...
  7. BAI
    +6
    30 June 2025 06: 27
    1.
    the war will continue for a long time and the current top leadership is unable to undertake the necessary reforms, this situation will not last forever. Moreover, it will not last long.

    Cognitive dissonance. Positional warfare for a long time, the general is a dumbass, but everything will change tomorrow. Why?
    2. I don't understand what's going on at all. There are few troops at the LBS. On both sides. There is no continuous front line. There is a strongpoint, which is defended by 5 people, and 5 people are storming it. Head-on. Why can't small groups go around it? Why can't they fire a couple of Tornado high-explosive missiles at it (why is the Tornado powerful and hits from afar and cheaper than the Iskander) and close the topic? An attack by a group of 10 people supported by ONE tank is an event of global significance.
    3. Why a 1000 km cruising range? Does the author understand that troops that are separated from their own by even 50 km are suicide bombers? Supply routes will be immediately cut off (like near Gostomel) and that's it - the group is finished. We left Kherson because the Ukrainian Armed Forces cut off the supply of our troops via the Antonovsky Bridge with Heimers
    1. -1
      30 June 2025 07: 23
      Quote: BAI
      An attack by a group of 10 people supported by ONE tank is an event of global scale

      I was also constantly surprised since 2014 - when there was no trace of drones.
      "We took the platoon strongpoint" - a celebration!!!
      Who didn't allow artillery to be brought in during those years and simply shoot at this line of defense of the Ukrainian Armed Forces near Donetsk for a week - with trains of shells? To zero?
      1. +6
        30 June 2025 12: 36
        Quote: your1970
        Who didn't allow artillery to be brought in during those years and simply shoot at this line of defense of the Ukrainian Armed Forces near Donetsk for a week - with trains of shells? To zero?

        We tried this at the beginning of the SVO. It didn't work out very well: around the strongpoint there was a "lunar landscape" a la WWI, a wild expenditure of shells, and during this time the enemy was equipping the next strongpoint.
        The late Murza had a description of this artillery offensive and its consequences - the guns began to run out, and then the shells.
        1. -1
          30 June 2025 12: 45
          Quote: Alexey RA
          Quote: your1970
          Who didn't allow artillery to be brought in during those years and simply shoot at this line of defense of the Ukrainian Armed Forces near Donetsk for a week - with trains of shells? To zero?

          We tried this at the beginning of the SVO. It didn't work out very well: around the strongpoint there was a "lunar landscape" a la WWI, a wild expenditure of shells, and during this time the enemy was equipping the next strongpoint.
          The late Murza had a description of this artillery offensive and its consequences - the guns began to run out, and then the shells.

          Well, everyone was beating their chests: “there are concrete supports, the lines took 5 years to build, etc.”
          Obviously in a week similar You can't build with quality - you have to retreat.
          It feels like there was no artillery reconnaissance at all - you can cover anything, but if there is no target designation, it will be a "lunar landscape".
          Even though I was only a conscript artilleryman, during firing exercises with the 2S3 and D30 all targets were hit fairly quickly - the Afghan officers counted and shot well.
          1. -2
            30 June 2025 14: 38
            The support, even with concrete fortifications, is guaranteed to be covered by a 240 mm "Tulip" mortar, if only there was normal target designation.
            All the strongholds of the Ukrainian Armed Forces along the LBS in the DPR and LPR would have been razed to the ground by two regiments of heavy mortars in the first month of the SVO, but instead of mortars, frontal assaults by mobilized miners were used...
      2. +1
        30 June 2025 18: 59
        The enemy didn't give in. They shot at our guns. It was called counter-battery warfare then.
    2. +1
      30 June 2025 10: 52
      Quote: BAI
      There is no continuous front line. There is a strongpoint, which is defended by 5 people, and 5 people are storming it. Head-on. Why can't it be bypassed by small groups?

      Because behind the stronghold, somewhere 3-5 km away, there is a company with drones, as soon as a group of attackers appears, 10-20 drones fly at it, so it is important to get closer as quickly as possible, if you start to go around, no one will reach it, we have already tried different ways. Therefore, first, artillery or drones hit the stronghold, then a group flies on motorcycles, Zhiguli, etc. until they raise their heads, and then it's a matter of luck.
      Quote: BAI
      Why can't a couple of Tornado high-explosive missiles be dropped on it?

      Wide dispersion and this is effective if you catch the enemy in the field, as practice has shown, even earthen shelters practically negate the benefit of a salvo from an MLRS.
    3. +1
      30 June 2025 11: 36
      "Why a 1000 km range? Does the author understand that troops separated from their own by even 50 km are suicide bombers?"
      Um... the question is that a deep breakthrough of groups should ensure the cutting of the enemy's communications, while we must maintain the security of our communications. During the Great Patriotic War, this is exactly what the Germans did in the Demyansk cauldron - they provided supplies through the Ramushevsky corridor and by air, ours had not been able to organize the same techniques during the "cauldrons" of 41.
    4. 0
      1 July 2025 16: 35
      2. I don’t understand what’s happening at all.


      True, but you don’t want to listen to those who understood and are trying to explain.
      But you express a valuable opinion, yes.
  8. +1
    30 June 2025 07: 52
    Quote: Puncher
    Drones are a substitute, a crutch due to the lack of modern aviation. Although literally the other day Israel showed what modern aviation is and what role it plays in war.


    ... in the event that the enemy does not have a modern echeloned air defense system and its own modern aviation, but only obsolete and worn-out junk.
    This example proves nothing, not at all. It was the Israeli Air Force that played the role of a "crutch" due to the lack of long-range missiles in Israel.
    The principle is simple: where you can send a missile, don't send a plane. The latter is both more expensive and more risky in practice (the pilot can die, and pilots are a rare commodity, their training costs a lot, including time).
    1. 0
      30 June 2025 15: 48
      An aircraft bomb contains more explosives than a missile; hardened targets can only be destroyed by bombs; missiles cannot be used effectively against mobile targets; missiles cannot effectively mine areas deep inside enemy territory.

      Any "layered modern air defense" can be oversaturated with targets, including false ones, and suppressed, and the money spent on air defense will go to waste.
  9. +1
    30 June 2025 08: 02
    Quote: Puncher
    "Is it different"?


    Yes, that's different. Iran's air defense systems are not the most modern. And there were frankly few of them, given the size of this country. In addition, an air defense system is only a separate element of the system. For the system to work effectively, all components must be available. First of all, this concerns reconnaissance and target designation.
    Israel was OK with the latter, but what about Iran? How were things with Iran's air control? Did it have enough powerful ground-based radars? And what about the DLRO aircraft? And what about real-time satellite reconnaissance? Sorry, without all of this, an "air defense system" is not a system at all.
    So it was a duel between the sighted and the blind. Iran was the blind one. The Israeli Armed Forces had full and timely information about the combat situation (and thanks to their "big daddy" - the USA), and Iran had to operate in the "fog of war".
    The better informed, the better armed.
    1. +1
      30 June 2025 08: 05
      Quote: Illanatol
      In addition, the SAM is only a separate element of the system. For the system to work effectively, all components must be available.
      Ready to subscribe to every word!
    2. 0
      30 June 2025 14: 49
      Quote: Illanatol
      Iran's air defense systems are not the most modern.

      and the Ukrainian Armed Forces - just the latest models and a solid field?
      Quote: Illanatol
      And there were frankly few of them, given the size of this country.

      There is no need to cover the entire country, but the objects that were bombed were covered...
      Quote: Illanatol
      Israel was OK with the latter, but what about Iran? How were things with Iran's air control? Did it have enough powerful ground-based radars? And what about the DLRO aircraft? And what about real-time satellite reconnaissance? Sorry, without all of this, an "air defense system" is not a system at all.

      the same can be said about the Ukrainian Armed Forces... with the exception of satellite data... and it's not very clear how satellite images will help in intercepting aircraft? given that there are no geostationary satellites there...
      Quote: Illanatol
      and Iran had to operate in the "fog of war."

      Iran had a big advantage - it was on its own territory, what fog of war?
      1. 0
        1 July 2025 08: 38

        What does the Ukrainian Armed Forces have to do with it? Especially since quite a few are flying at targets in Ukraine.
        There are also modern Western models (Iris-T, for example).
        And who has a "solid field" anyway? No one. As it turned out, even Israel's "domes" were so-so. Although the territory is small.

        I suspect that the Israelis often bombed where there was no cover. Civilian targets, in particular.

        They can help, indeed. And we are not talking about "pictures", but actually about video broadcasting in "online" mode. If you know exactly where the air defense missile systems or enemy aircraft are located, it is much easier to destroy them.
        What does this have to do with "geostationary satellites"? Do you know at what altitudes and orbits such satellites operate?
        Reconnaissance satellites work in low orbits, as if in shifts. Some replace others, constantly monitoring the ground and air situation in a given region. That's why you need a lot of them. The Yankees (and their closest allies) have it all right.

        But in reality, the combat operations were not conducted on the "territory", that is, not on the ground, but in the air. And the Iranian command did not have full control and monitoring of its airspace.
        But the Israelis did.
        As with the Ukrainians, alas. The Ukrainian Armed Forces Command is still able to track all the actions of our Aerospace Forces and promptly take measures to repel our air attacks, which reduces the effectiveness of the latter.
        1. 0
          1 July 2025 17: 20
          Quote: Illanatol
          actually about video broadcasting in "online" mode

          there are no such broadcasts, especially over Ukro... it's only in movies, about special agents... I remember very well what a satellite flight window is, over our position... they repeat - several times a day... well, a dozen and a half times...
          Quote: Illanatol
          The Yankees (and their closest allies) are completely okay with this.

          even they can't afford 24/7 online broadcasting. I talked about this.. otherwise, no reconnaissance means are needed at all.. however, as I said - this only exists in movies.. just as there is no integration of NATO satellites and Ukrainian air defense guidance systems into one system.. the same S-300.. it is simply technically impossible..
          Quote: Illanatol
          And the Iranian command did not have full control and monitoring of its airspace.

          only if the F35's stealth works, because ground radar still sees better than the plane...
          Quote: Illanatol
          The Ukrainian Armed Forces command is still able to track all actions of our Aerospace Forces and promptly take measures to repel our air attacks, which reduces the effectiveness of the latter.

          no, it can't, but it is at the level of Iran's air defense, with the addition that they are given satellite data, which is not a panacea, see above...
          1. 0
            2 July 2025 08: 23
            1. Such broadcasts already exist.
            2. If there is one satellite. And there are dozens of them. One leaves the "window", it is immediately replaced by the next one.
            Well, yes, technical means of reconnaissance (the same satellites, which work not only in the visual), are the main ones in our time. Other means of reconnaissance - have an auxiliary role. That is why the budget and staff of the NSA are several times larger than the CIA.
            3. Preliminary target designation can be transmitted to the crews of the Soviet-made air defense missile system, via the same "starlink". And final target guidance - to the native radars included in the complex.
            4. The Israelis tried to knock out Iran's ground radars at the very beginning. This is a classic example of BD, the Yankees did the same thing back in Operation Desert Storm. I suspect they used not only aviation, but also sabotage methods. So the Iranian command had no control over the skies. And without the proper level of awareness, the actions of the air defense forces are not very effective.
            Iran had virtually no DLRO aircraft of its own, as well as large reconnaissance drones and satellites (except for individual samples). It's bad to be blind, even if your fists are big...

            5. Maybe, maybe... another thing is that the Ukrainian Armed Forces really do not have enough technical means of destruction, it is not for nothing that Zelensky constantly asks to bring him air defense missile systems. But, alas, this can be technically fixed with the help of NATO.
            However, Iran is also drawing its own conclusions. Over time, this country will also improve its capabilities in the field of air defense and aviation. With the help of China, first of all.
            1. 0
              2 July 2025 10: 28
              In essence, Anatoly, we are talking about the same thing... I will only note where I do not agree 100% hi
              Quote: Illanatol
              Such broadcasts already exist.
              - yes, but! not online 24/7 and not everywhere in the world is it possible at all..

              Quote: Illanatol
              Preliminary target designation can be transmitted to the crews of the Soviet-made air defense missile system via the same "starlink". And final target guidance can be transmitted to the native radars that are part of the system.

              the main thing here is that this is time... it won't go online, and in 20 minutes the plane could be very far away, unless it's always on the same route... + the radar must guide the plane when aiming, so it's vulnerable all this time...
              and about the rest... there is only one question - why hasn't this been done with the Ukrainian Armed Forces, especially in the first 2-3 months? However, it probably has no answer.
              1. 0
                2 July 2025 13: 47
                Quote: Level 2 Advisor
                - yes, but! not online 24/7 and not everywhere in the world is it possible at all..


                This will happen soon too, they are already working on it.
                Ukraine is a very important region, look how much money the US and NATO have invested in the conflict. Which, by the way, was being prepared long before February 2022. In general, it is a zone of special attention, everything that can be used in this zone is used. And beyond its borders too, judging by the accuracy of the strikes of the Ukrainian side on our facilities.

                т
                Quote: Level 2 Advisor
                the main thing is that this is time... it won't go online, and in 20 minutes the plane could be very far away, unless it's always on the same route... + the radar has to guide the plane when targeting, so it's vulnerable all this time...


                Why won't it work? It will work, of course it will.
                Nowadays, air traffic control is a common thing. Even for ordinary Internet users, some functions are available, you can track any aircraft at any point on the globe.
                Here are some useful links, for example.
                https://www.flightradar24.com
                https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.flightradar24free

                Needless to say, the military has a much wider range of capabilities.

                The Ukrainian Armed Forces have had such capabilities for quite some time now. And the Ukrainians are actively using them.
                As for us... I hope that we have made progress in this direction. Especially since we have gained access to the Chinese satellite intelligence network.
  10. 0
    30 June 2025 08: 23
    It's high time to create helicopter-type drones with gasoline internal combustion engines (the first helicopters actually had these), the fact is that the energy capacity of even the best batteries is no more than 1 MJ per 1 kg, but gasoline is no less than 42 MJ. Even with an engine efficiency of about 30%, this gives a 10 times greater flight range. So the supply issue can be solved for such drones at a distance of up to 200 km.
    What is the current "positional deadlock" based on? - The fact that the supply vehicles of the groups are mercilessly attacked by small electric FPV drones, in turn - only very small-sized cargo can be transported on the FPVs themselves - and it is impossible to carry shells, weapons and equipment.
    Therefore, the war of the future should be based on airborne assault - troops are transferred to the enemy's rear areas on conventional helicopters such as the MI8, they dig in and consolidate their positions - and then supply issues are resolved by transport UAVs.
    1. -2
      30 June 2025 10: 47
      Quote: Dmitry Eon
      Further supply issues are resolved by transport UAVs.

      And who prevents the enemy from shooting down transport UAVs with the same FPV drones? In any case, the enemy will have an advantage in maneuvering troops in its rear against a group advanced 50 km forward. And in heavy weapons too
      1. 0
        30 June 2025 10: 50
        This is already orders of magnitude more difficult than causing nightmares for trucks on broken highways.
      2. 0
        30 June 2025 12: 37
        Quote from Kartograph
        And who is stopping the enemy from shooting down transport UAVs with the same FPV drones?

        Ours are already shooting them down - the same "baba yagas".
    2. +1
      30 June 2025 15: 51
      Yes, this is fantastic, while you are digging in, a normally thinking enemy will strike with aircraft (any, even absolutely obsolete), then bring up infantry with long-range artillery. No transport UAVs will be able to supply paratroopers the way you can supply infantry on the ground.

      Landing can be used when the enemy's rear has already been destroyed, air supremacy has been violated, and so on...
      1. 0
        1 July 2025 08: 55
        But the point of the landing force is not just to sit, but to attack the enemy's ground communications. Just like the Russian Armed Forces terrorized the road of death near Sudzha with drones
        1. 0
          3 July 2025 15: 10
          Oh well, the enemies won’t be able to assign anyone to protect communications.
  11. +1
    30 June 2025 08: 29
    We need not prepare for a "future war" but modernize the methods of waging the current one, for example: so that a projectile flies to the target 30 seconds after clicking on the tablet, so that enemy drones are burned by automatic laser installations (and our own are allowed through), so that communication is such that it is impossible to completely disrupt it. This is the only way to create "wars of the future", the rest is harmful fantasies.
    1. 0
      30 June 2025 15: 52
      The enemy will detect the lasers (which are not there now) and destroy them at the same time. This is just another form of combating air defense, and nothing will change.
  12. +1
    30 June 2025 08: 38
    Quote: Puncher
    In addition, it will be necessary to radically improve the combat effectiveness of strike aircraft.

    The first and last mention of aviation in the so-called prospective Armed Forces. That is, in the author's opinion, aviation does not play any special role because? Why? But the red line through the entire article is "drones, drones, drones...".
    Drones are a substitute, a crutch due to the lack of modern aviation. Although literally the other day Israel showed what modern aviation is and what role it plays in war. Now regarding the proposed concept. It is a dead end and will not lead to an exit from positional warfare because the enemy is not deprived of the ability to maneuver reserves and deliver ammunition. Because railway junctions and bridges are working. A drone cannot destroy a bridge, and you can’t stock up on so much “ballistics”. And a ballistic missile is essentially ONE 500 kg aerial bomb. while one F-15E Strike Eagle can carry 8 kg. of guided aerial bombs. Also, the issue of destroying command posts and communication nodes located in the rear, inaccessible to artillery and MLRS, is not resolved, the issue of suppressing troop control with electronic warfare systems is not resolved. Therefore, without modern aviation capable of capturing the enemy’s skies, positional warfare is inevitable.



    Where to get money, Zin? Or - "it's good to be rich and healthy."
    In the current conditions, a full-fledged aviation is a monstrously expensive thing; even if all the oligarchs were dispossessed, it would be enough for a 30 percent increase in 3+ years.
  13. +1
    30 June 2025 09: 02
    I agree with the author in many ways, but...
    - First, I absolutely disagree with the concept of armored cavalry, etc. I believe that the mention of "cavalry" smacks of Budyonny and should not be used.
    - secondly, the commander, starting from the company commander and above, must have assistants on staff for UAVs, R&D, communications, engineering equipment, reconnaissance. A kind of headquarters.
    - third, SPECIAL attention to the personal protective equipment of fighters, their INDIVIDUAL mobility means, possibly mechanical assistants, such as a transporter
    and, finally, individual means of communication for each soldier, but with access to the general network (to the company)
    BUT the most important thing is to ERADICATE the parquet principle in the troops - and this is SELECTION and TRAINING
    1. +2
      30 June 2025 15: 53
      >> the mention of "cavalry" smacks of Budyonny

      Armored bikers. Let it smell like madmax laughing
  14. 0
    30 June 2025 09: 07
    "among "part of the forces of the Arbat Military District" - generals of the "old" school, "
    Everything the author wrote is correct. But what kind of general does he classify Putin as? Learn everything by comparison, compare yourself with others! And what kind of general does the author classify the criminal Prigozhin, whom Putin entrusted to command the army, as? And Srelkov? The author forgot that in our country everything depends on one person. And everything the author suggests will not be implemented as long as Putin rules the country. Or does the author think that Putin has been destroying his industry, army, space for 25 years, and now he has come to his senses and will start restoring all this?? In our fourth year of the SVO, not a single military school has been restored! Although everyone knows that we have a catastrophic shortage of officers. Do you know why? Because any lieutenant is a potential general in the future, and current generals do not want to give up their positions. Like the president, they want to rule forever. Therefore, as long as Putin rules, we will rot, slowly but surely!
    1. 0
      30 June 2025 09: 46
      There is already a plan to open new schools, starting from this year. In total, more than 10 are planned to be opened.
    2. 0
      30 June 2025 10: 52
      Quote: steel maker
      "among "part of the forces of the Arbat Military District" - generals of the "old" school, "
      Everything the author wrote is correct. But what kind of general does he classify Putin as? Learn everything by comparison, compare yourself with others! And what kind of general does the author classify the criminal Prigozhin, whom Putin entrusted to command the army, as? And Srelkov? The author forgot that in our country everything depends on one person. And everything the author suggests will not be implemented as long as Putin rules the country. Or does the author think that Putin has been destroying his industry, army, space for 25 years, and now he has come to his senses and will start restoring all this?? In our fourth year of the SVO, not a single military school has been restored! Although everyone knows that we have a catastrophic shortage of officers. Do you know why? Because any lieutenant is a potential general in the future, and current generals do not want to give up their positions. Like the president, they want to rule forever. Therefore, as long as Putin rules, we will rot, slowly but surely!

      It wasn't just Putin who destroyed his army. All of Europe reduced its troops and military budget. Everyone lived peacefully until the hour z.
      1. 0
        1 July 2025 13: 01
        Quote from Kartograph
        It wasn't just Putin who destroyed his army.


        Enough of this. Under Putin, the army has actually revived. The army was systematically destroyed by Putin's predecessors: Gorbachev and Yeltsin.
        And the military budget under Putin actually grew. As did the entire federal budget as a whole.
  15. 0
    30 June 2025 09: 09
    The author did not touch upon the role of the Airborne Forces in future military operations. It seems to me that in their "classical" capacity the Airborne Forces have exhausted themselves and have no prospects. Just like tank armadas. And equipping, training and maintaining the Airborne Forces are very expensive.
    1. 0
      30 June 2025 15: 54
      The author has written three articles about the Airborne Forces, but you can’t even get into the author’s articles and rustle through a couple of pages.
      1. +1
        30 June 2025 16: 09
        My fault, I'll correct myself and read it. Although it's unrealistic for most visitors to read all of VO's materials. It seems to me that comments are provided for a quick exchange of opinions.
        1. -2
          30 June 2025 17: 33
          Read only Timokhin and Kolobov laughing
  16. 0
    30 June 2025 09: 16
    What's about the pace is not an innovation. It's a well-known phenomenon for a long time - it's called initiative. It can be military-tactical, and if it works out, it can be military-strategic.

    Type of this:
    "When the initiative is lost, the enemy is completely deprived of independence, is forced to react to the opponent's actions and is unable to plan successful operations, since he lacks superiority in maneuverability, as well as in forces and means."

    Summer 1941 in the fields of Russia, as an option... wink
    1. +1
      30 June 2025 10: 31
      Tempo and initiative are different things. Near Kiev we had the initiative, but at a certain point the enemy took over the advantage in tempo.

      Please don't confuse warm with soft.
      1. 0
        30 June 2025 10: 45
        Tempo and initiative are different things. Near Kiev we had the initiative, but at a certain point the enemy took over the advantage in tempo.

        Please don't confuse warm with soft.

        As I understand it: tempo is the degree of speed of individual elements. Shooting tempo, walking tempo, musical tempo...

        In a military sense, the attacker is always in tempo, he is one step ahead, and thus he has the initiative. Yes

        IMHO - one and the same.
  17. +3
    30 June 2025 09: 20
    What nonsense! But the author loves himself very much and praises all his previous opuses...
    It's especially funny to read about companies breaking through for a thousand kilometers.
  18. +2
    30 June 2025 09: 23
    The IDF's Namer IFV. Something like this, with a turret optimized to protect against attack drones and loitering munitions, should become the main "heavy infantry" fighting vehicle.

    How is it different from a tank? It will die the same way. The only thing is that there will be 4 people inside instead of 10. wink
  19. +2
    30 June 2025 09: 27
    All these constructions of the author should be considered as good wishes that do not have a solid economic foundation.
    In general, the author is in his element - he has a hard time with logic and common sense.
    War is an economic act, and no matter how the concepts of conducting military operations are developed in the Russian Federation, there is no economic basis for them. The Russian Federation is a raw materials appendage of developed countries - as is the basis, so is the superstructure.
    The Russian Federation is not capable of competing economically with developed countries - everything is based on the Soviet legacy. Consequently, the Russian Federation is doomed to lag behind.
    What's there to write about? It's all clear to everyone.
    And here's another thing - the main weapon is ideology. And it is absent as such. The Russian Federation is bankrupt in this regard.
    Why should society make extra efforts for defense?
    1. -2
      30 June 2025 15: 55
      "Vietnam is unable to compete with a developed country like the US and is doomed to lag behind"
      "Sir, the Vietnamese have won."
      "Oh, shield!"
      1. 0
        30 June 2025 16: 21
        Stop fantasizing - the Vietnamese could not win by definition. The Americans independently closed down another business project, since the costs turned out to be higher than the potential profit - and that's it. Yes, the economic base of Vietnam was in the USSR and the PRC.
        1. -2
          30 June 2025 16: 28
          >>the vietnamese couldn't win

          Couldn't win, but won?
          >>Americans independently shut down another business project

          So you lost? Then who won?
          1. +1
            30 June 2025 16: 30
            America, who else are the Vietnamese working for now?
            1. -2
              30 June 2025 16: 33
              So, it turns out that Japan and Germany won in World War II? They were given money for modernization, and were allowed into the markets. According to your logic, yes.
              1. +1
                30 June 2025 17: 04
                Yes, and they too. But they work mainly for the American market. Some supply resources, others process them, and America consumes...
                1. -2
                  30 June 2025 17: 34
                  Iceland also consumes more than it produces. Conclusion: Iceland wins all wars.
        2. -1
          1 July 2025 13: 08
          Quote: Dozorny - severa
          Stop fantasizing - the Vietnamese could not win by definition. The Americans themselves shut down another business project


          The Vietnamese won outright, and the Yankees ran away in piss-stained underpants, abandoning their allies, the South Vietnamese. Even the staff of their embassy in Saigon was evacuated at the last moment by helicopter. They were no longer thinking about profit, they were saving the carcasses of their hapless warriors.
  20. 0
    30 June 2025 09: 30
    In terms of future armored vehicles, it seems to me that the main mistake of the author (and its developers in the military-industrial complex) is that he is trying to place personnel INSIDE.
    The practice of current military actions shows that in this case everyone will die for sure, despite the thickness of the armor. And not the current ones either, they are riding on armor from Afghanistan.

    We need an OPEN platform with a good view, mobile, passable, for the department, just to deliver personnel. Yes
    1. +1
      30 June 2025 10: 58
      Quote: Arzt
      In terms of future armored vehicles, it seems to me that the main mistake of the author (and its developers in the military-industrial complex) is that he is trying to place personnel INSIDE.
      The practice of current military actions shows that in this case everyone will die for sure, despite the thickness of the armor. And not the current ones either, they are riding on armor from Afghanistan.

      We need an OPEN platform with a good view, mobile, passable, for the department, just to deliver personnel. Yes

      There were no khimars in Afghanistan. The main danger there was from mines and ambushes. An open platform is as vulnerable as an APC/BMP. But it is better to have at least bulletproof armor. And stop transporting troops in the near zone on tarpaulin-covered Urals
    2. +1
      30 June 2025 15: 56
      That's the logic - if infantry can die in armor, then they should immediately crawl under the shrapnel, they'll die anyway. And apparently, they should immediately go into battle naked - armor doesn't provide 100% protection either.
      1. 0
        30 June 2025 17: 59
        That's the logic - if infantry can die in armor, then they should immediately crawl under the shrapnel, they'll die anyway. And apparently, they should immediately go into battle naked - armor doesn't provide 100% protection either.

        Oddly enough, yes. If the drone hits the box, it's all over for everyone. But this way, you can at least scatter. fellow
        1. -1
          30 June 2025 18: 33
          *sigh* Have you heard about cluster munitions? And about aviation? Ukraine doesn't have normal aviation, but what if an attack aircraft flies out from around the corner? It's not far from creating attack drones, made in the image and likeness of a WWI fighter.
          1. 0
            30 June 2025 18: 52
            . sigh* have you heard about cluster munitions? And about aviation? Ukraine doesn't have normal aviation, but what if an attack aircraft flies out from around the corner? It's not far from creating attack drones, made in the image and likeness of a fighter from the First World War.

            And if such drones appear, do you think the fighters will climb inside? laughing
          2. 0
            1 July 2025 13: 18
            Quote from Evil Eye
            *sigh* Have you heard about cluster munitions? And about aviation? Ukraine doesn't have normal aviation, but what if an attack aircraft flies out from around the corner? It's not far from creating attack drones, made in the image and likeness of a WWI fighter.


            Everything can be solved. It is pointless to rely on improving individual elements of the Armed Forces and try to create some kind of "wonder weapons" that can solve problems.
            The emphasis should be on developing the army as a SYSTEM, on the harmonious and coordinated work of all its components. So that the "solar" could always count on timely assistance from other branches - artillery, MLRS, fighter aircraft and UAVs. So that even junior command personnel had operational information about the combat situation around in all environments (in real time) and the ability to respond to its changes.
            Then the chances of survival for personnel will increase several times or even by an order of magnitude. "Information is power." We need our own military Internet, at least no worse than that of a potential enemy.

            If this happens, the "attack plane from around the corner" will no longer be dangerous. It will be detected in time and destroyed before it uses its onboard weapons.

            And, of course, it is necessary to develop those systems that will interfere with the work of someone else’s “military Internet”.
            1. 0
              1 July 2025 19: 07
              Well, I, damn it, can also say a lot about "they will detect it in time" and about "interfering with someone else's internet", but if you're so smart, you should understand that no one can give a 100% guarantee against an ambush using remote weapons, especially if we're talking about that stage of the offensive at which not only the occupation activities have ended, but haven't even begun. That's the first thing.
              Secondly, what exactly do you want to prove with these correct phrases? That the good old tactics of 80 years ago with tank wedges and riding on armor should under no circumstances be revised?
              Thirdly, details. For example, I gave examples where there was no organized resistance on the enemy side. Because if the enemy is not just reactively resisting somehow without a plan, but is performing some meaningful actions (for example, luring our forces deeper into their territory, and then sealing off the breakthrough area with a massive attack and turning it into a cauldron). You shouldn't think that the enemy is dumber than us, it cost us dearly every time. Like, our command staff will have operational information in real time, and the Varzhesky one won't, but the enemy's Internet will be down, and ours won't. You shouldn't think that it will necessarily be like that.
        2. 0
          1 July 2025 02: 54
          Quote: Arzt
          If a drone hits a box, everyone is screwed.

          Why would it? The default drone carries a regular "carrot", its after-armor effect is far from impressive, plus if the box itself is not as thick as a tank's armor, then the output stream will not increase much, as a result you will get a "needle" strike, where someone can only be killed by an almost direct hit (or if the carrot detonates not from the outside, but from the inside, flying through an open door), if the drone is unlucky and its strike does not hit the tanks or ammo, and this is not to mention the fact that many drone strikes are far from normal to the equipment and often go into the milk. Actually, what is there to say without evidence - there are a lot of videos of how BMPs and MRAPs tank at least 2-3 drones, there are even videos where an MRAP withstood almost 10 and drove away. Well, I won't say anything about what even an AGS shelling does to infantry on armor, and I won't say anything about how infantry can try to hold on during sharp maneuvers at high speeds, which are vital if the crew doesn't want to catch all the drones in the area, and I won't say anything about transporting the wounded either.
    3. -1
      30 June 2025 18: 00
      It was invented a long time ago, but you can’t show it at a parade.
    4. 0
      2 July 2025 10: 22
      Quote: Arzt
      We need an OPEN platform with a good view, mobile, passable, for the department, just to deliver personnel.

      She is?
      1. 0
        2 July 2025 10: 37

        She is?

        Something like that. Another option is an MT-LB without a top, with the engine in front. Or even something like a flatbed UAZ, but in a monolithic lightly armored body.
  21. +4
    30 June 2025 09: 33
    Quote: deddem
    Where to get money, Zin? Or - "it's good to be rich and healthy."
    In the current conditions, a full-fledged aviation is a monstrously expensive thing; even if all the oligarchs were dispossessed, it would be enough for a 30 percent increase in 3+ years.

    It's not even about money - if the elite even wants it:
    -she just doesn't know how;
    -she doesn't understand why;
    -there is simply not enough money - you can’t grow engineers and scientists in a test tube;
    - the very nature of the Russian economy is colonial-parasitic - serious steps are needed to change the economic model - and this is the basis for the existence of the modern Russian elite - the distribution of material goods from the export of resources;
    - the population will definitely not accept a reduction in the level of consumption;
    1. +2
      30 June 2025 15: 59
      The article is about the army, but you want the article to be about everything.
      If we are to say so, then we need reindustrialization, and the military-industrial complex (if properly organized) has always been the locomotive of industrialization, not its weight. If poorly organized, of course, it is a weight.
      And the population - it depends on what. If the population is considered exclusively the middle class with Moscow and St. Petersburg citizenship, and not 90% of those outside the Moscow Ring Road, then yes. If the opposite, then no.
      1. +1
        30 June 2025 16: 18
        Quote: Evil Eye
        The article is about the army, but you want the article to be about everything.

        Well, the point is that the army is a superstructure over an economic base - there is no better soldier than a collective farmer and a worker. And the Soviet technical reserve is not eternal.
        So yes, a military theorist must first of all understand the limits of the economic capabilities of the system, and not, like Timokhin, fantasize out of thin air...
        1. 0
          30 June 2025 16: 32
          >>there is no better soldier than a collective farmer and a worker

          Who will produce equipment if workers are forced into the army?

          >>a military theorist must first of all understand the limits of the economic capabilities of the system, and not, like Timokhin, fantasize out of thin air...

          Timokhin does nothing but write about how to fight more effectively for less money (and lives), and you are still dissatisfied.
  22. 0
    30 June 2025 09: 34
    As for artillery, in principle. It looks like it's also finished. Only missile systems, including air ones.

    This is what our aviation research institutes really need to do - develop an aircraft larger than the MIG-31 and smaller than the Tu-22.
    A missile carrier capable of carrying a pair of Kinzhal missiles is the future of our aviation, IMHO.
    More - he becomes a strategist, he is vulnerable. Yes
    1. 0
      30 June 2025 16: 00
      All other things being equal, a projectile carries more explosives.
    2. 0
      1 July 2025 12: 36
      Quote: Arzt
      Only missile systems, including air ones:


      It seems that this thesis was already seen 80 years ago.

      Probably all of these, and more.

      But first of all, understanding what exactly, and where exactly, and when exactly to use the available, diverse tools (=== detection and target designation tools, and communications).

      Well, the desire (in every sense), and the ability, and the opportunity to apply it.
  23. 0
    30 June 2025 09: 39
    Quote: Dmitry Eon
    It's high time to create helicopter-type drones with gasoline internal combustion engines (which is what the first helicopters were like), the fact is that the energy capacity of even the best batteries is no more than 1 MJ per 1 kg, but gasoline is no less than 42 MJ.

    that is why the development and production of aviation internal combustion engines is blocked in the Russian Federation. And there were developments, for example, the Voronezh DV-40. By the way, the Mi-34 helicopter with a piston engine DV-400 (Voronezh) was developed in the USSR. An excellent option, but...
    And here's another thing - in order to mass-produce small internal combustion engines, it is necessary to provide a market for them - motorcycles, ATVs, snowmobiles, jet skis, gasoline-powered equipment - this, as you yourself understand, is impossible, because the PRC will not allow this to be done.
    1. 0
      30 June 2025 10: 35
      Well, regarding gasoline internal combustion engines for Geraniums, the issue has been resolved, the same production should be opened for helicopter UAVs
  24. +1
    30 June 2025 09: 50
    The current combat experience of the SVO is extremely specific due to the fact that the Russian armed forces have not yet found a way out of the positional impasse.

    The author also failed to find a way out of the positional deadlock. The current situation is reminiscent of the positional deadlock of the winter of 43-44 on the Western Front, when the Malenkov Commission recognized 11 offensive operations as failures. At that time, they suffered great losses when trying to concentrate forces for an offensive, any concentration of our troops was detected by aerial reconnaissance and artillery strikes were carried out, as a result of which entire battalions were destroyed before reaching the front line.
    The author completely forgot about the existence of aviation, just like many of our military leaders during the Great Patriotic War.
    Now, thanks to high information with the help of UAVs, the same thing is happening - to break through the defense, a concentration of troops is necessary, the same "tank armadas" and "masses of infantry", but any accumulation of troops causes artillery and missile defeat. In June 44, this issue was resolved by gaining air superiority to eliminate the artillery defense of Army Group Center, taking advantage of the distraction of German aviation to parry the landing in Normandy, Stalin created for the first time the most powerful group of aviation in the Great Patriotic War, about 6000 combat aircraft, collected from several fronts. They destroyed the enemy's defense base, artillery batteries, and completely cut off supply communications, even fighters went out on a free hunt and chased even single wagons, while the attack aircraft stopped uselessly attacking dug-in infantry in trenches, and switched to strikes at the locations of long-range artillery positions, leaving our artillery with trenches with infantry, our artillery was no longer constrained by counter-artillery combat. Successful aviation operations allowed our troops to move along the arrows drawn by the marshals in headquarters.
    If we had aviation now that took part in counter-artillery combat and destroyed all the batteries and launchers of the Ukrainian Armed Forces, then it would be entirely possible to concentrate forces for breakthroughs and encirclements of the enemy, and no drones would stop this breakthrough, since aviation can also destroy UAV control units.
    1. +1
      30 June 2025 10: 48
      That's right. Without air superiority there will be an eternal "positional stalemate". This also applies to the "small sky" - it would be reasonable to create groups of drone fighters of sufficient density to tie down the enemy's drones, and manned aircraft to destroy control points
    2. -1
      30 June 2025 16: 27
      Well, what next? We don't have such aviation now. And in the future - even if we do - what should the ground army look like?
  25. 0
    30 June 2025 11: 01
    I read it carefully. If you don't get distracted by the details, everything is correct and true. For the 80s of the last century. It was at that time that the US moved from theory to implementation of the light/heavy brigade concept. I won't go into the pros and cons here, they have long been studied. There are more cons.
    Regarding unmanned systems. They will certainly find their niche. Both in the army and in the police. But this is not a panacea or a wonder weapon. Until countermeasures are worked out, and the regular composition of field air defense/electronic warfare is not defined and tested, drones seem to be a universal instrument of war. This has already happened many times in history.
    The main advantages of drones are low cost (hence their widespread use), and a simple operator training program. The main disadvantage is control/guidance. As soon as we start fighting the disadvantages, we kill the advantages.
  26. +2
    30 June 2025 11: 18
    The article is harmful and... amateurish. sad
  27. +3
    30 June 2025 11: 18
    Aren't motorized riflemen heavy infantry? Aren't tank troops mechanized cavalry? Although the author's last name......
  28. +4
    30 June 2025 11: 28
    Firstly, in modern motorized riflemen, the integration of the riflemen themselves and the armored vehicles occurs at the squad level - the deputy squad leader is the commander of the BMP or APC.

    I repeat once again that the author is an amateur who does not know the subject and does not know such a concept as the organization and armament of subdivisions, units and formations of motorized rifle troops. There is no such position as deputy squad commander. There is a position - senior gunner, who can perform the duties of the squad commander in the event of the latter's withdrawal from service. It is the squad commander, according to the BUSV of the Ground Forces (platoon, squad, tank) who automatically becomes the vehicle commander when loading into an infantry fighting vehicle/armored personnel carrier. lol
  29. +2
    30 June 2025 11: 42
    Traditionally, the author "the hardware is good, the rest is not so good".
    It's especially funny about the "two trends". And the maneuvers towards Lviv from Kharkov: "To make it even clearer, a company of such armored vehicles, entering Ukraine along the Belgorod-Kharkov road and bypassing Kharkov along the bypass road from the west, could reach almost the bypass road of Lvov on one fill-up."

    For reference: we have only one trend, whatever they say, that’s the trend.
    For example, about "heavy infantry fighting vehicles": ""Some experts, including ours, praise the Bradley. In my opinion, this is unjustified enthusiasm. We looked at it from different angles: it has advantages in terms of protection and convenience of the troop compartment. However, this does not prevent our weapons from destroying the American IFV along with the crew and troops.
    "Bradley" has a serious weak point: problems with cross-country ability, because of which they cannot normally move off-road, through fields. They get stuck in the black soil and, due to their huge dimensions, become an easy target. Well, what is the point of improved protection if the result is the same? Almost all "Bradley" delivered to Ukraine have been destroyed today. Still, we must remember that an IFV is not a tank. This vehicle must be fast, mobile, cross-country, able to cross rivers by swimming, without bridges and roads. Our IFVs can do this, the American ones cannot."

    https://tass.ru/ekonomika/24182095
    There is a link in the text.
    Do you understand the trend? "..what's the point of improved security if the result is the same?" And the BMP should float. That's the trend we have.

    If the Russian army does not change in the right direction, then in the next war we will simply be swept away.
    For reference: NATO members begin any military operation with "seizing air superiority". And from the air they begin to destroy everything on the ground and underground. An example is the last couple of years in the Middle East (you can only look at Iran, with the most powerful air defense, S300, TORs... and with Su-35).
    But it is probably possible to confuse NATO by performing an original maneuver.from Kharkov to Lviv".
    1. 0
      30 June 2025 16: 03
      NATO members begin any military operation with "seizing air superiority." And from the air they begin to destroy everything on the ground and underground.


      So what is the conclusion? Surrender immediately, use nuclear weapons immediately, or learn to fight with great bloodshed on our own territory under constant bombardment?
  30. +4
    30 June 2025 13: 09
    The President had to intervene personally, with his order to form the Unmanned Systems Troops (UST).

    A normal commander-in-chief on the most important issues of army development does not give out orders, but issues ORDERS and sets specific deadlines for their execution.

    They give orders to the orderlies, to clean boots or bring some tea...
  31. +2
    30 June 2025 13: 20
    Well, it's hard to predict what will happen after the SVO, before the "operation" neither I nor my friends and colleagues expected that due to the total incompetence of Putin's "effective" managers, the army would have to drive around in homemade vehicles a la "Mad Max", and we also didn't expect that officials dumped many things that should be provided to the country's military-industrial complex on the shoulders of volunteers and concerned citizens, as well as the repair of equipment at the expense of military personnel, there are no censored words. Well, and for those who will argue or ask what we are talking about, there is plenty of information, including on the Internet, check it out for yourself. In general, the main problem is that for all the chaos and mess happening today, the culprits will not receive the punishment they deserve, so knowledgeable people have minimal hopes for positive changes and for solving pressing issues, because there is no motivation for those who should solve them, because impunity breeds corruption and incompetence.
    1. +1
      2 July 2025 09: 27
      Of course, the combatants and their relatives should do it themselves. They pay huge amounts of money, by the standards of the country. And there is no need to complain.
      (Sarcasm)
  32. +2
    30 June 2025 13: 24
    why, in the 4th year of the war, no measures are being taken to equip the troops with light motor transport in sufficient quantities,


    Or maybe it was necessary not to chatter for three years about the problem of troops with light motor transport, but to confiscate all light motor transport from the Arbat military district and transfer it to the SVO zone and not issue another one until the troops are 100% provided.
    1. +2
      1 July 2025 16: 25
      It's not for me, it's for the director.
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  34. -2
    30 June 2025 14: 34
    What nonsense can the brain of a biased person produce? All in order to protect their state security agencies and factories, to snatch budget funds for them, without changing anything in reality.
    The ultimate goal of such an opus is to prevent the outflow of funds to competitors.
    .
    It sounds nice, but it will be useless. He is calling us in the wrong direction, in the wrong direction.
    .
    However, maybe this is disinformation for the Americans?
  35. 0
    30 June 2025 14: 46
    And in the Ministry of Defense, have you read this article?
    Or maybe they don’t know about all the innovations that the author wrote about?
  36. +1
    30 June 2025 15: 12
    Tanks have already turned from the main striking weapon into just one of the fire weapons, and this will remain the case.


    Now we need assault tanks with a 152mm gun for effective
    destruction of enemy fortifications, 30 mm automatic cannon to combat tank-hazardous infantry,
    machine gun + AGS.
    DZ+KAZ+REB protecting the tank from ATGMs and UAVs, including in the upper hemisphere.
    Anti-mine trawl-wedge shovel for clearing enemy mines, concrete and other fortifications.
    1. -2
      30 June 2025 16: 04
      Well, what next? Tanks won’t be used en masse anyway and there won’t be any more tank wedges.
      1. +1
        30 June 2025 16: 08
        Quote from Evil Eye
        There will be no more tank wedges.

        I would not be so categorical.
        1. -1
          30 June 2025 16: 10
          Well, maybe they will against savages, but savages can be driven in technical vehicles.
      2. -2
        30 June 2025 16: 28
        Evil Eye, and in your opinion, how much is mass production, three, ten, a hundred, a thousand pieces???
        1. -1
          30 June 2025 16: 29
          The Germans had about 50 or more.
          1. -2
            30 June 2025 16: 31
            On what section of the front, 1 km, ten, thirty?
            1. -1
              30 June 2025 16: 33
              The Germans had it at 1 km, you can focus on these numbers. And naturally, it won't happen again.
              1. 0
                30 June 2025 16: 52
                The width of the offensive zone of a motorized rifle battalion consisting of a tank company (13 units) and three motorized rifle companies (40 infantry fighting vehicles) is 1-2 km.
                The width of the MSB defense zone is 3-5 km.

                In the SVO zone, most offensives are carried out by several assault groups of 2-4 infantry fighting vehicles supported by 1-2 tanks in a strip 100-300 m wide.

                There are few BMPs left, the proportion with tanks has decreased to 2:1, tanks are now advancing not in the vanguard, but in the second line, supporting the infantry with fire and destroying enemy firing points and armored vehicles....
                1. -1
                  30 June 2025 17: 35
                  So what's the conclusion? In terms of numbers, nothing has changed since WWII, but in practice, tanks are no longer used as originally intended.
    2. 0
      1 July 2025 16: 24
      This is for a positional front, as it is now, if it is destroyed, then something else will immediately be needed.
      By the way, the Americans had assault tanks, apparently with 155 mm.
      You can think about such a machine, but not instead of regular tanks, but as a special means.
      The BMPT has 30mm cannons, and it can mow down infantry without any questions.
      To protect against FPV, in addition to the APS, you need a machine gun with automatic guidance and a large number of rounds.
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  38. 0
    30 June 2025 16: 24
    Is the author a reserve or active officer?
    1. +1
      30 June 2025 19: 51
      I can hardly imagine an officer advertising foreign armored vehicles. This is something else.
      1. 0
        2 July 2025 00: 28
        The article touches upon the issue of the changing role of tanks in the context of the emergence of new types of weapons, in particular, unmanned aerial vehicles. A proposal was made to rethink the very concept of the battlefield, as well as traditional schemes for breaking through the lines of attack on the enemy, holding and expanding the "gaps" in his formations. All this is aimed at preventing a systemic stalemate on the line of contact.
    2. 0
      5 July 2025 09: 07
      Quote: Andrey VOV
      Is the author a reserve or active officer?

      The author is a journalist, and that says it all. The second oldest, chouzhtam.
  39. -2
    30 June 2025 17: 57
    In my opinion, the main problem is to pass the first 30-50 km without significant losses and to secure the mouth of the corridor until the enemy brings reinforcements. Using the example of an attempt to pass between Pokrovsk and Konstantinovka, where more than 1000 different types of strikes were dropped to suppress the VSU, it turned out to pass 10 km. That is, even an empty field is actually difficult to pass. Our advance to the positions is visible long before approaching the front line. I don’t know what to do with this, FPVs become ineffective at a speed of 200 km, but you can’t drive off-road at that. It is also impossible to remove enemy reconnaissance in modern realities. I think breakthroughs can be forgotten until some new technologies appear. Now it is more likely that we need to focus on isolating a battle area of ​​up to 100 km, that is, a distance greater than between large cities, which are now turned into fortresses and which must be isolated from supplies for a successful attack.
  40. +2
    30 June 2025 18: 35
    Old doctrines will work if we work according to these doctrines, and that means the massive use of weapons of mass destruction, which in the first hours breaks the command and control of troops, both at the level of liquidation of the military and political level of power, and the disabling of communications: radio, television, telephony, as well as the complete destruction of energy and production infrastructure...
    And it is in such situations that tanks would work, but neither drones nor Javelins Ukrainians wouldn't even show up...
    Moreover, if you kill the tank forces, then the WMD alone will also work poorly, because the troops will need to be defeated, but there is nothing to defeat them with...
    Drone drivers will simply be crushed by radiation and chemical weapons, including their own.
  41. 0
    30 June 2025 18: 39
    A very long article.
    I'll try to insert my thoughts:
    1. Defense forces:
    Remote mining, camouflage, false positions, reconnaissance and rapid transmission of data to weapons from closed/camouflaged positions.
    Fighting enemy drone operators, taking out all transport infrastructure.
    Complete clearing of enemy transport from a strip 30 km deep.
    2. Breakthrough forces:
    The main thing is a single information circuit for reconnaissance and data transmission.
    Strategic reconnaissance assets from space to high-altitude drones;
    Small reconnaissance drones.
    Suppression means - air launch platforms, missile forces, MLRS, heavy attack drones.
    Deep throwing tools.
    Mobile air defense and electronic warfare systems, mobile launch platforms for unmanned aerial vehicles, repeaters, constant communication with strategic reconnaissance and heavy attack drones.
    Mobile demining equipment, possibly through missile strikes.
    Heavy armor is not needed, what is needed is the ability to receive instant fire support. Up to and including aircraft and missiles.
  42. 0
    30 June 2025 20: 22
    A drone is a flying piece of plastic that is shot down with a hunting rifle. There is no need to make it an absolute weapon. Sooner or later, the process of detecting and shooting at drones will be automated and this thing will end.
    1. -1
      30 June 2025 21: 16
      What if there are a lot of pieces of plastic?
      Aircraft drones are also drones, by the way.
  43. -1
    30 June 2025 21: 31
    Now a massive attack by tanks will most likely be impossible

    everything that will change in the new tanks - it will no longer be possible to comfortably build up thick armor by a meter against kinetics, it will be necessary to smear the protection or equip the tanks with effective means of active defense. Therefore, it will be enough to simply revise the protection scheme, but the tanks will become much more vulnerable to sub-caliber shells and possibly receive weaker sides. Perhaps there will be an interesting game with spaced armor a la - Stug IIIg or PzIVh
  44. -2
    30 June 2025 21: 52
    Of course, it's nice to swing a saber on the couch, but it seems to me that the way out of the "maneuvering dead end" should not be sought in tanks. For some reason, science fiction immediately comes to mind, with its armored suits, because a very mobile, small in size, albeit lightly armored unit, will create considerable problems for the enemy! A fighter in light armor sufficient for small arms and shrapnel, with an electronic warfare module... The question of energy remains! I wonder, have you noticed how suddenly publications about exoskeletons have disappeared? Or is it just that there is nothing to write about there?
  45. 0
    1 July 2025 00: 23
    Well... a science fiction writer... even Lukyanenko somehow gets lost against his background.
    Oh well... What irritates me most is the situation when pseudo-theoreticians, far removed from the Army and real combat operations, re-arrange the branches of the armed forces and rearrange the types of the Armed Forces, like chips in a children's game of dice.
    Tanks will never be needed??? Well, that's a vegetable... from a high bell tower... Will all the accompanying electronics be turned off - will UAVs be controlled by magic passes? Or will they remember about tanks, which already don't exist due to the implementation of fairy-tale nonsense?
    Well, when it came to the cavalry... It wasn't enough for us to imitate the placement of shoulder straps on the belly and the multi-colored plaques on the sleeves in the American style, so now journalists are ready to develop the organizational and staff structure according to the same patterns... Seriously? Divisions for scrap?
  46. +3
    1 July 2025 03: 46
    Much has been said, but the main word is up to industry, engineers and workers.
    Prepare and train personnel for production, not designers, lawyers, bartenders, etc.
  47. 0
    1 July 2025 07: 50
    For some reason, when analyzing the SVO, the author focused his attention on the ground offensive, on the use of infantry fighting vehicles and other ground equipment, and completely failed to notice the most successful underground breach of the enemy's defense. Why are there no tunnel boring brigades proposed in the advice on restructuring military units, their tactics and strategy? Unlike all other forms of warfare on the ground, which destroy the entire transport infostructure, the built tunnels, on the contrary, create a new infrastructure that can be used in peacetime. For example, the dug tunnels can be used as a subway in Pokrovsk, Kramatorsk, Slavyansk and other conquered settlements. And in the dug tunnels between cities, it will be possible to create high-speed pipeline transport on magnetic suspension developing supersonic speed. As Musk suggested. . Every war ends in peace. Why not improve this post-war world during the war itself?
  48. 0
    1 July 2025 08: 19
    Quote from Evil Eye
    An aircraft bomb contains more explosives than a missile; hardened targets can only be destroyed by bombs; missiles cannot be used effectively against mobile targets; missiles cannot effectively mine areas deep inside enemy territory.

    Any "layered modern air defense" can be oversaturated with targets, including false ones, and suppressed, and the money spent on air defense will go to waste.


    The missile has a long range of destruction. The missile can destroy not only due to explosives, but also due to kinetics. High-speed (especially hypersonic) missiles can destroy well-protected targets. Missiles (specialized cruise missiles) can also destroy mobile targets if they make corrections to the trajectory.

    It is possible to oversaturate and suppress the air defense system, but it is difficult and expensive, by the way. The risk for manned aircraft will still remain. In any case, the use of missile weapons and drones (a cheap analogue of cruise missiles) is preferable. Even in terms of costs, which is also important.
  49. 0
    1 July 2025 12: 10
    Light infantry on the BTR-82A with the support of the 2s38, heavy infantry on the BMP-3 with the support of the BMPT-72.
    Return everything to the way it was, before the foot wraps?
    Anachronism, we must always look to the future.
  50. 0
    1 July 2025 12: 11
    We always happily forget the experience of wars and conflicts... But we love large-scale events (exercises). Well, and according to tradition - the tsar is good, but with the boyars and the people there was no luck... laughing
  51. +2
    1 July 2025 13: 22
    Quote from Evil Eye
    Who will produce equipment if workers are forced into the army?


    Automation and robotics - to the rescue. Industrial processes, in their majority, are template and routine.
    But combat operations still require ingenuity and non-trivial approaches. The current conflict has shown this quite well. Therefore, the role of AI in war will remain modest for a long time, rather auxiliary. Humans are still superior to AI in some things.
    War is a creative process, not a craft.
  52. -1
    1 July 2025 14: 34
    Right up to a return to tarpaulin boots and foot wraps, which is something that is periodically talked about in this environment.
    I didn't read any further. Since the author doesn't even understand boots, his further intellectualizations will be even stranger. There is a completely scientific explanation why tarpaulin boots are better than any boots that the army can afford. But the author doesn't know it, he thinks terribly broadly, he can't look back at people - global ideas carry him away... And let him fly, never return from his empyrean. It will be easier for everyone.
    1. 0
      1 July 2025 16: 21
      There is a completely scientific explanation why tarpaulin boots are better than any boots that the army can afford.


      People like you exist too, yes. It's a pity that natural selection of dates is so flawed.
    2. 0
      7 July 2025 10: 36
      Have you ever seen militants in tarpaulin boots? They are the best footwear, why not fight in them?
      1. -1
        7 July 2025 14: 23
        No. But I haven't seen any smart action movies either) Action movies aren't authoritative in terms of scientific thinking) Kirzach, with a free bell, is the most effective system for removing moisture from shoes. Moisture, you see, is constantly forming on the foot - a person sweats) And then capillary forces spread it across the foot wrap. The foot wrap becomes damp.
        The freebie hangs around the foot, and quite strong ventilation is formed, the air is constantly renewed, carrying away moisture. Even if the foot gets wet, water is poured into the tarpaulin, the freebie immediately begins to drive the air, drying the foot wrap. Do you understand?
        There are different kinds of fabrics and membranes that try to do the same. But there are no such effective ones in principle) That's all. The leg is always dry and does not sweat. Shoigu acted like a complete idiot, without studying the issue. Well, it's not surprising for our authorities...
      2. +1
        8 July 2025 11: 49
        Do not waste time on it.
        Not at all.
        The man himself wore tarpaulin boots at best during short walking marches on dry ground or snow.
        He didn't go into the mountains in them, he didn't run through destroyed buildings with concrete wall fragments and panels here and there, and most importantly, he didn't crawl through the sand in them, he didn't run 20-30 kilometers, he didn't sit for several days without changing his shoes, etc.
        And I haven’t tried wearing normal shoes or membrane socks.
        I've never even heard of Kevlar insoles.
        And he doesn't want to.

        Here on VO you can't call such people what they are called, just ignore it, that's all.
  53. 0
    1 July 2025 23: 59
    Hmmm... A heavy article, many threads, many thoughts. Powerful, like Fedor Emelianenko.
  54. +1
    2 July 2025 05: 04
    there will be no need for a hundred-kilometer dash either
    Considering the depth of the "gray zone" in the conditions of using UAVs as the main means of destruction, throws of 100 km will be the norm even for "heavy infantry".

    By the way, what is the place [at least in "heavy infantry"] of electric motorcycles, electric scooters, exoskeletons and other means of increasing the individual mobility of a fighter? In assault operations, they show some potential. Should armored personnel carriers be designed for them?

    In addition, the article describes the application of the proposed organizational structure. in an offensive operation. And how to act in defense? Is it possible to refuse "mechanized cavalry" and use something else, asymmetrical, to close enemy breakthroughs? Otherwise, "mechanized cavalry" against "mechanized cavalry" may not be the best solution. In past centuries, the best means against a cavalry attack was not your own cavalry, but an infantry square.

    How can "heavy infantry" resist assaults from enemy "heavy infantry"? Wouldn't it be better to be something other than "heavy infantry"?
  55. -1
    2 July 2025 08: 06
    Quote: Evil Eye
    Well, I, damn it, can also say a lot about "they will detect it in time" and about "interfering with someone else's internet", but if you're so smart, you should understand that no one can give a 100% guarantee against an ambush using remote weapons, especially if we're talking about that stage of the offensive at which not only the occupation activities have ended, but haven't even begun. That's the first thing.
    Secondly, what exactly do you want to prove with these correct phrases? That the good old tactics of 80 years ago with tank wedges and riding on armor should under no circumstances be revised?
    Thirdly, details. For example, I gave examples where there was no organized resistance on the enemy side. Because if the enemy is not just reactively resisting somehow without a plan, but is performing some meaningful actions (for example, luring our forces deeper into their territory, and then sealing off the breakthrough area with a massive attack and turning it into a cauldron). You shouldn't think that the enemy is dumber than us, it cost us dearly every time. Like, our command staff will have operational information in real time, and the Varzhesky one won't, but the enemy's Internet will be down, and ours won't. You shouldn't think that it will necessarily be like that.


    There may not be a 100% guarantee, but a 95% guarantee is quite possible. Any "remote weapons" can be promptly detected by operational reconnaissance using appropriate technical means: from satellites to ground drones.

    No, I did not claim that. But the good old tactics of using tanks en masse can work if the proper measures are taken to eliminate threats to the army group, primarily using long-range weapons. The Wehrmacht did something similar, which is why it could get by with a modest number of light and medium tanks, suffering not very large losses of the latter in the initial period of WWII and the Great Patriotic War.

    Planning of the BD should be based on the principles of the so-called dynamic programming. That is, the actions of the troops in any scenario of events, even the most negative, should be calculated in advance. And the units/parts, or rather their commanders, should know exactly how to act in any situation and have sufficient resources for such actions. Weapons and ammunition should be developed taking into account the maximum possible autonomy of their use.

    As for enemy actions, any large-scale actions (for example, attempts at encirclement) require appropriate preparation and movement of forces, which can and should be identified in a timely manner using our own technical reconnaissance means.
    In short, whoever is better and more promptly informed will have a greater chance of success. As in chess, whoever calculates the opponent's actions for a greater number of moves will checkmate the opponent.

    The main emphasis in development should be not on firepower and quantitative superiority, but on mobility, awareness and coordination of actions. The winner will not be the one who is stronger, but the one who is faster.
  56. 0
    2 July 2025 08: 54
    Bonaparte also dispersed the old generals and recruited new ones - talented and young!!! and destroyed Europe!!!
    1. 0
      7 July 2025 10: 31
      Poi this elderly General Kellerman was one of the first to receive the title of Marshal from Napoleon.
  57. +1
    2 July 2025 09: 07
    NATO and the Russian Federation will not fight conventionally, it is hopeless for both. They will strike first, hoping for a disarming blow, we will respond if we have time. The experience of a local, essentially civil war, can be studied, but it is pointless to build a doctrine on this. They will find an antidote with 90% efficiency against the same UAVs and that's it. And a tank will always remain a tank.
    1. +1
      7 July 2025 10: 33
      Most likely, this is true. UAVs need to be developed, but they should not be absolutized. What worked in one war may work differently in another.
  58. -3
    2 July 2025 10: 29
    Quote: Dmitry Eon
    Well, regarding gasoline internal combustion engines for Geraniums, the issue has been resolved, the same production should be opened for helicopter UAVs

    Trusting representatives of the military-industrial complex is the last thing you should do. All production of internal combustion engines consists of re-gluing nameplates - aircraft engine based on the AURUS engine, RED aircraft diesel, APD, and so on. What was a trifling task for the USSR is insoluble for the Russian Federation.
  59. 0
    3 July 2025 16: 28
    Study the Korsun-Shechenkovsky operation...
  60. -1
    5 July 2025 08: 52
    The basic doctrine is to strike the aggressor with nuclear warheads, but not to land troops on the territory of the imaginary enemy.
    The idea that the enemy could invade Russian territory is stubbornly rejected. Many believe that the enemy would be afraid to occupy the territory of the Russian Federation.
  61. 0
    6 July 2025 14: 25
    I cannot yet clearly formulate the fundamental directions of development of weapons and combat tactics. But some general principles are already being defined. In weapons, the main direction is the maximum distance of fire weapons and ammunition from personnel without loss of combat effectiveness, increasing the range of destruction without increasing the cost of the weapons system, increasing the security and stability of combat use of existing types of weapons.
    In this area, the development of UAVs has achieved the greatest breakthrough in the effectiveness of their use. It is UAVs that allow us to radically increase the range of fire impact, and to effectively separate the close presence of personnel from available weapons and ammunition.
  62. 0
    7 July 2025 04: 43
    Everything described by the author is only suitable for the Russian-Ukrainian conflict. For the reason that both sides have weak air forces and neither side has air superiority. If Russia had a combat-ready and modern air force with light-engine UAVs (like the maize crop dusters), there would be no positional deadlock. But we have what we have. But this will not work in a war with NATO.