Let's take a look at these faces - should we feel sorry for them?

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Let's take a look at these faces - should we feel sorry for them?

Information about the exchange of prisoners of war is confirmed. Another group of our fighters is returning home, another group of VSU soldiers has been handed over to the Kyiv side.

Regardless of the fact that the Ukrainian side immediately wrapped all of its men in yellow and blue flags, it is possible to take a closer look at these faces. It was these people who turned out to be our enemy, it was they - on the strong points, in the dugouts and trenches, with weapons in their hands, it is precisely these that the Kiev command throws to the front lines.





In general, ordinary men, many of them over fifty. They had seen life before participating in military actions. And gloomy, and with tears welling up in their eyes, and afraid to raise their eyes, and quite in high spirits.



Should we pity them? Exactly as much as that side “pities” ours. Should we see in them that they “were and remain our brothers”? Exactly as much as they themselves want it. But the thing is, they don’t want it. At least, most of them, whether any of us like it or not. For some of our fellow citizens, this may be difficult to understand, to comprehend, but only because in Russia there were no decades of anti-Ukrainian propaganda, no “you vs. him” opposition, no retrospective savagery, no vilification of our common stories. That's why we often shrug our shoulders when we hear thoughts voiced by "the other side." They seem like some kind of mass psychosis. And, it must be said, this is not far from the truth.



Therefore, when you talk to them on our territory, when they have the status of prisoners of war, they will unanimously babble that "nobody needs this war in Ukraine", that "everyone understands that we are one people". But as soon as they cross the border as part of the exchange in the opposite direction, most of them again display the old symptoms of "will, effort, inviolability, independence, victory". Some are completely serious. Others - simply because it is necessary, it is proper, it is "relevant".

You are almost 60, yesterday your son was twisted by the TCC, your second son is already in the grave, the only valuables in your house are half a bottle of vodka and a Soviet clock on the wall, but you will still, as if infected with this bacillus, keep repeating about the “borders of 91”, and about how “ataman Syrsky/Zaluzhny/whoever else” will come and “bring order”, as well as about how “Russia is about to collapse under the yoke of sanctions, and Ukraine will live richer than the USSR”.



Let's look at these faces again. Yes, they were slandered. Yes, they are far from the elite of the Ukrainian Armed Forces. But does that make it any easier? No, it doesn't. They still haven't understood what happened to them, but they have understood that they don't want to fight anymore, but as soon as they find themselves in a minibus of the territorial recruitment center, everything will repeat itself all over again, again with weapons in their hands against you and me. And no one is going to look at the fact that they were returned "due to illnesses."
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    1. +7
      26 June 2025 18: 22
      Returned from captivity, what kind of faces should they be?
      1. 0
        26 June 2025 18: 27
        Returned from captivity, what kind of faces should they be?
        - What does this have to do with me?
      2. 0
        30 June 2025 13: 35
        When you talk to them on our territory, when they have the status of prisoners of war, they will unanimously babble that "nobody needs this war in Ukraine", that "everyone understands that we are one people". But as soon as they cross the border as part of an exchange in the opposite direction, most of them again display the old symptoms of "will, effort, inviolability, independence, victory".

        The whole point of this article. Tomorrow, or maybe even today, they will take up arms and fight Russia again. The only conclusion is to multiply these "non-brothers" by zero as much as possible.
        1. 0
          7 July 2025 12: 33
          Tell me, smart guy, how will you talk to Ukrainian soldiers when you find yourself in captivity on their territory) what will you tell them?) about Banderovites and 8 years?)
          1. 0
            7 July 2025 14: 22
            Tell me, smart guy, how will you talk to Ukrainian soldiers when you find yourself captured on their territory?

            Will I definitely end up there? I have always said and say that in captivity, people say whatever they want to hear from them, whether they are our prisoners or the VSUs. I am only touched by how our media presents it, saying that all the VSUs who were captured were forcibly mobilized and do not want to fight.
            1. 0
              7 July 2025 18: 12
              Quote: private person
              I am just touched by the way our media presents this, saying that all those who were captured were forcibly mobilized and do not want to fight.

              Our media is broadcasting for grannies. Ukrainians are motivated to fight, they don't want such a "Russian world" with padishahs and lezginkas in the city center. And they don't want to go to the Soviet Union, but if you read the comments, every second person wants to return to socialism with a transition to developed communism in order to "survive". In Ukraine, completely different people already live mentally, and here they miss their master Stalin.
  2. +18
    26 June 2025 17: 52
    Should we feel sorry for them?

    No, they shouldn't!
    A specific answer to a specific question.
    1. +29
      26 June 2025 17: 58
      Maybe that's enough about the brotherly people!!! We just need to achieve neutral neighbors, and that's the most we need from them.... In my opinion, brothers are something else, and not this redneck trash, and it doesn't matter why he became like that! negative
      1. +22
        26 June 2025 18: 23
        Our task is to establish "Soviet power" in Ukraine and divide it into General-Governorates!
        Just form a military police from North Koreans, we are "not like that", and we need to cleanse the Ukrainian masses of Banderites not like under Khrushchev!!! At the same time, all underground and illegals in the Russian Federation should be identified and eradicated...
        1. +3
          26 June 2025 19: 05
          Quote: Evlokh
          Our task is to establish "Soviet power" in Ukraine and divide it into General-Governorates!

          And in Russia? Leave the capitalist-oligarchic-Putin one?
          1. -9
            26 June 2025 19: 17
            No, it would be better if it was Stalinskaya, then you would cut down trees. At least there would be some benefit.
            1. 0
              26 June 2025 19: 27
              Quote: tralmaster
              No, it would be better if it was Stalinskaya, then you would cut down trees. At least there would be some benefit.

              No problem. If it is for the good of the state, the people, and not the oligarchic elite headed by the irreplaceable one.
              1. +4
                27 June 2025 12: 33
                So suggest someone to replace the one who is not being replaced? Otherwise blah-blah-blah, but what about the money?
                1. +2
                  30 June 2025 13: 39
                  So suggest who to replace the one who is not being replaced?

                  So Grudinin was in the last elections and it seems he even won, but the Central Election Commission decided, and where is he now? He's not there.
              2. -2
                29 June 2025 14: 29
                Quote: Vladimir-TTT
                No problem. If it is for the good of the state, the people, and not the oligarchic elite headed by the irreplaceable one.

                Cheap words. Let someone else bring order, and I will only speak with my tongue. Makarevichi..
            2. -2
              27 June 2025 14: 38
              There's no reason to give you so many minuses.
              And to Gundik, who during the war was trumpeting pluses about the change of power... for such a squeak under Stalin, at least 10 years without the right to correspondence wink
              Well, what can I say? People are like people, as the classic wrote.
              Under Stalin, people ate on coupons and cards, lived in barns, were shocked when during the war they found themselves in a village in East Prussia, but they were not indignant, because it was dangerous, i.e. guilty, not because of that. Because almost a lot of people lived like that.
              And now, in a material sense, it is impossible to compare life with the 30s and 50s, but there is a lot of inequality, you understand. request
              Although where in the world is this equality? And has it ever existed other than slogans?
              But it is human nature to blame others for all failures.
        2. -1
          28 June 2025 12: 42
          Quote: Evlokh
          Our task is to establish "Soviet power" in Ukraine and divide it into General-Governorates!

          I remembered the joke:
          There were two issues on the collective farm board's agenda: building a barn and building communism. Due to the lack of boards, they immediately moved on to the second issue.
        3. 0
          7 July 2025 18: 14
          Quote: Evlokh
          Our task is to establish "Soviet power" in Ukraine

          The Soviet government must be put in the electric chair, at the very least.)
      2. +27
        26 June 2025 19: 11
        It's hard to find a more idiotic formulation than "brotherly people". As if brothers are some kind of guarantee of peace and friendship. Cain and Abel won't let you lie. Just like Ostap and Andriy from "Taras Bulba".
      3. +14
        27 June 2025 06: 33
        Brotherly people.. Intoxication with propaganda.. Only this often applies to the majority in Russia. Where does all this come from? Well, since the end of the 80s. When the country was divided, and the RSFSR was often ahead of everyone, well, with the exception of the Balts from Sajudis. And then there was no time for brotherhood, they divided the money and drank. And when they saw what happened, they threw up their hands for a decade, nodding at the alleged brotherhood.. We ourselves should look in the mirror. But for those to whom I advise this, apparently special mirrors...
        1. +8
          27 June 2025 12: 39
          They divided the money and drank. And when they saw what happened, they threw up their hands for a decade, pointing to the supposed brotherhood. We should look in the mirror ourselves.

          It wasn't you and I who divided the money, it was the alcoholic in a drunken stupor who destroyed and divided the country, and the Russian people could only drink out of desperation.
          1. +3
            27 June 2025 13: 07
            This is figurative. We had no choice but to drink, as always, just chew snot. And in the photo there are people like us. Often with one Soviet alarm clock and with a dead relative. There are no rich people there, on either side. Deceived by propaganda and hatred.
            1. +5
              27 June 2025 13: 10
              Deceived by propaganda and hatred

              But for some reason I and the Russians were not deceived by propaganda, and there was no hatred until a certain moment when they, in their hatred, began to kill women and children in Donbass...
              That's why they are not like us, we don't kill women and children, even the attitude towards prisoners is different...
              1. +4
                27 June 2025 13: 18
                There are enough freaks on both sides. The only thing is that such emergencies are not let slide here. The murder of a family in Donbass by two monsters, or the recent murder by marauders in Kursk Oblast. Just off the top of my head.
                1. +3
                  27 June 2025 13: 23
                  Just off the top of my head

                  These are just isolated cases, but in Ukraine this is the norm, a norm raised to the level of the state, where burning people in an Odessa house is considered the norm, murders of women and children are considered the norm...
                2. +1
                  27 June 2025 19: 40
                  Comrade Sudoplatov will speak about this. And by the way, if someone thinks that there are none of these, then not everyone in the Third Reich was in the NSDAP, moreover, many were in the Communist Party and the Socialist Party...
    2. +10
      26 June 2025 18: 23
      Pity is such an ungrateful thing that it's not even worth thinking about.
    3. +24
      26 June 2025 19: 17
      Let's be honest and open: Ukrainians have never been a thinking part of society. They were opportunists. They were thinking and broad-minded - never. I think this is connected historically - with being predominantly engaged in agriculture. Politically - with the geographical position of Ukrainians (buffer territory) between Europe and Russia. That is why Ukrainians survived through betrayal, resourcefulness and cunning, between two large civilizations.
      1. +1
        26 June 2025 19: 24
        Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
        Let's speak honestly and openly: Ukrainians have never been a thinking part of society.

        You are very wrong. During the USSR, the number of universities, research institutes, high-tech production, and the number of educated and thinking people associated with it was almost record-breaking. In the USSR.
        1. +25
          26 June 2025 20: 18
          During the Soviet era, the number of universities, research institutes, and high-tech production
          was in the east of the Ukrainian SSR, where 90% did not know the Ukrainian language. No one in this region even thought about any "Ukrainianness".
          1. -1
            26 June 2025 20: 23
            Quote: BoyCat
            was in the east of the Ukrainian SSR, where 90% did not know the Ukrainian language. No one in this region even thought about any "Ukrainianness".

            And no one was doing it until 2014. In the east. And even then, not really.
            And almost everyone knew the language - some better, some worse. Except for the newcomers.

            In Universities - not only in the east. There were many in Kyiv, and even further west. But not as many as in the east. More like the average for the RSFSR
            1. +16
              26 June 2025 20: 33
              Many acquaintances from Siberia moved to the Ukrainian SSR, including Kyiv, after college, retired officers. Several classmates there... They became Banderites, unfortunately, I don't know if it's real or they're just afraid of repressions.
              1. +9
                26 June 2025 20: 38
                It depends a lot on the people. Among my acquaintances, the family that has become the most Banderized is the one - he is from Stavropol Krai, she is from Belarus. And there are not even any relatives. They have become so Russophobes - there is no place to put a sample. And among the "natives" there are many normal and reasonable people.
                1. 0
                  28 June 2025 05: 50
                  Quote: Vladimir-TTT
                  It depends a lot on people.

                  I have a lot of similar things... I also couldn't understand it, unless I recall our life in the USSR. We were also ideologically savvy in the light that we live with dignity, but there, over there, there are exploiters and a poor working class, forced to suffer when choosing a car! So I'm not surprised anymore!
                2. +1
                  28 June 2025 18: 36
                  He is from Stavropol Krai, she is from Belarus.

                  I don't even have to go far. In the Moscow region, my niece fell in love with a guy from Novopolotsk. A rare monster, always trying to provoke me, attacking Russia. I sent him to a certain address. I tell him, what the hell are you living here in Russia for? Get out of here, why are you hanging around here? He shut up... but I still know he's not a good person. Well, as they say, the niece has a choice... I'm putting up with it for now. So, there's enough of this trash here too.
              2. +2
                27 June 2025 09: 09
                Many acquaintances from Siberia moved to the Ukrainian SSR, including Kyiv, after colleges, retired officers

                so these are the results of the work of the diaspora - this was not only with you, in Siberia...
          2. +1
            27 June 2025 12: 57
            They knew the Ukrainian language in the east 💯 - during the early USSR, the Ukrainianization of the Ukrainian SSR was carried out and the ethnic composition was different.
            1. +1
              27 June 2025 20: 53
              Ukromova was taught from the 2nd grade - Russian from the 1st. In my school - Secondary School No. 1 in Makeyevka - they were proud of the fact that out of 1700 students - 160 nationalities. What was the "ethnic composition"???
              1. 0
                28 June 2025 08: 13
                Table 3. Ethnic composition of the districts included in the Donetsk region as of 1926

                N people 3 Donetsk specific weight (%) by 5 districts specific weight (%)
                1 украинцы 1131769 61,61 1878002 64,05
                2 русские 453202 24,67 764724 26,08
                3 греки 98277 5,35 98573 3,36
                4 немцы 56094 3,05 65010 2,22
                5 евреи 44014 2,40 54439 1,86
                6 белорусы 12054 0,66 15177 0,52
                7 татары 9369 0,51 14664 0,50
                8 поляки 8166 0,44 10147 0,35
                9 молдаване 7515 0,41 8883 0,30
                10 армяне 2094 0,11 2935 0,10
                11 болгары 1943 0,11 2091 0,07
                12 цыгане 1199 0,07 1822 0,06
                13 латыши 915 0,05 1158 0,04
                14 литовцы 781 0,04 1038 0,04
                15 чуваши 265 0,01 579 0,02
                16 мордва 215 0,01 546 0,02
                17 румыны 444 0,02 498 0,02
                18 чехи и словаки 382 0,02 492 0,02
                1. +2
                  28 June 2025 19: 56
                  Sirozha - I understand that this is just an opopedia - but here's the rubbish - my grandfather, born in 1913, was a Pole (Polish) until 1925, and in 1926 he suddenly became a "Ukrainian" well, that's it - in the village of Dmitrovka (Dnepropetrovsk region) all the Poles, Greeks, and others - all became "Ukrainians"
                2. +2
                  28 June 2025 20: 02
                  Yes, by the way, about "everyone knew" Ukromova - my grandmother is from Vyatka - she came to the Ukrainian SSR from Sakhalin in 1944 (where she was a Komsomol volunteer knot cutter) and until her death in 1993 she did not know the language and spoke Russian with a funny Vyatka dialect.
        2. +4
          26 June 2025 21: 46
          Quote: Vladimir-TTT
          The number of educated and thinking people associated with this was almost record-breaking. In the USSR.

          but what does all this have to do with Ukrainianism?
          p.s. if anything, - kiev polytechnic, kharkiv aviation, was born in western ukraine... but i completely agree with your interlocutor
          1. +7
            26 June 2025 22: 38
            Ukrainian is not a nationality, but a political view such as liberal, communist, fascist, etc.
            Therefore, anyone can become a Ukrainian - even a Jew like Zelinsky or a Russian like Syrsky.
            1. +5
              27 June 2025 06: 42
              exactly!.. that's why I didn't agree that Ukrainianism is being treated "by this number of educated and thinking people", who are mostly politically passive, while those who are Ukrainianizing are active and aggressive... we shouldn't forget that the "educated and thinking" were successfully subdued and ruled by those who often had no education beyond school and no ideas in Germany from 1933-1945.
            2. +3
              27 June 2025 09: 42
              This phenomenon of "Ukrainianness" was very well explained by Pavel Shchelin on A. Shelest's channel -
              as soon as "Ukrainianism" is ANTI-RUSSIA at all times.
              1. +3
                27 June 2025 22: 27
                Well, that's why the concept of Ukraine was invented, and the literary Ukrainian language itself. The only reason for Ukraine's existence is war with Russia.
                Therefore, war and death are their destiny, and destiny must be accepted and fulfilled without regret.
        3. +3
          27 June 2025 09: 06
          During the Soviet era, the number of universities, research institutes, high-tech production, and the associated number of educated and thinking people was almost a record. IN USSR.

          Have you looked at the nationality of those who set these "records"?
          but it would be worth ...
          Yes, and after the collapse of the USSR, everything began to change quickly: the majority left for Israel...
        4. +2
          27 June 2025 12: 44
          During the Soviet era, the number of universities, research institutes, and high-tech production

          Because they poured money into this Ukraine since the time of Khrushchev, since the USSR after Stalin had exits from Ukraine in power. That is why they developed "the number of universities, research institutes, high-tech production"...
      2. +2
        27 June 2025 13: 14
        And what do you call those people from the Ukrainian SSR? Ukrainians too? Or Soviet people. The same collective farmers, Heroes of Socialist Labor... How did they survive? How did workers survive in thousands of factories. Kzhedub, Paton, Yangel and hundreds of thousands of smaller workers... Due to betrayal and dodginess? Ah! Such are the times.. It left its mark.. So look in the mirror, you are the same. And I will look, yes, you are similar. Just as poisoned by propaganda and hatred for each other
    4. +9
      26 June 2025 19: 21
      Quote: Leshak
      Should we feel sorry for them?
      No, they shouldn't! A specific answer to a specific question.
      Briefly and to the point good Talk to those who took them: '- oh, they left us without supplies'... No regret that they fought against the Russian Armed Forces.
      Many units with history, brought out from the mountains: - captivity, this is when we drink tea, and came to us with weapon... and if they clamped down and raised their paws - there will be no tea. After Kursk: no regrets at all; foreigners will definitely be expended, the French will be shown no mercy at all.
    5. +8
      26 June 2025 19: 33
      Quote: Leshak

      No, they shouldn't!
      A specific answer to a specific question.

      But they will return, back to the trenches and fight Russia. They are destined for this, until death.
      1. +9
        26 June 2025 22: 47
        The enemy must not be pitied or loved, the enemy must be destroyed. This is the basis of war. As it was during the Great Patriotic War - "Kill the German" was the slogan, it is not difficult to draw an analogy.
        Well, while Putin, the General Staff, the Duma and the Ministry of Foreign Affairs are drooling and whining, this SVO will remain without goals and without Victory.
        Your brothers, who will stab you in the back as soon as you turn away and who live only with hatred towards you because the Russians are to blame for all of Ukraine's failures, who occupied Ukraine for centuries and prevented it from developing, starved it to death, etc. I'm not going to dissuade them from this, but the price they pay for this is death. They chose THEIR fate themselves. And until Putin gets it, we won't win.
        1. +4
          27 June 2025 12: 54
          [quote][/quote]The enemy must be destroyed. This is the basis of war. As it was during the Great Patriotic War - "Kill the German" It sounded differently "kill the enemy, as many times as you see him, kill him as many times"
          1. +2
            27 June 2025 22: 36
            Dad, kill the German! : [Poster] / Artist M. Nesterova; Ed. E. Povolotskaya. - Moscow; Leningrad: Art, 1942 (Moscow: 3rd type. "Red Proletarian"). -1 p. ill. -200000 copies.
            I. Povolotskaya, E.. II. Nesterova, M..1. People (collection).
            Source of electronic copy: PB
            Original storage location: Samara Regional Scientific Library
        2. -3
          27 June 2025 17: 17
          Point this out to yourself and to the military registration and enlistment office, and don’t lecture them.
  3. +9
    26 June 2025 17: 55
    And, it must be said, this is not far from the truth.

    He can want whatever he wants, no one will release him from military service. Another point - there were reports that they are specially taught to speak correctly in captivity, including such things.
    1. +5
      26 June 2025 19: 16
      So they teach you not to believe what prisoners say. Basically, there are a lot of factors that lie here: fear, stress, and the desire not to anger. Captivity is a roulette, whether you were captured or not, they may or may not capture you, just a short burst and that's it. Being empty without ammo or grenades will not add to your survivability either.
  4. +21
    26 June 2025 17: 56
    "Should we pity them? Exactly as much as that side "pities" ours. Should we see in them that they "were and remain our brothers"? Exactly as much as they themselves want it."

    We will feel sorry for them after Russia's Victory, but while they hold weapons in their hands and kill our soldiers and civilians, we will continue to neutralize them without any regret! After the Victory, we will deal with everyone.
  5. +24
    26 June 2025 18: 01
    This is a question for Putin and the question is why military factories are still not bombed during the day. And why TCKs full of conscripts are not bombed either.
    It's ridiculous to even repeat the rest, like bridges and train stations, the immortal Zeliboba and so on. But recently, VO has been mercilessly downvoting people for such questions.
  6. +21
    26 June 2025 18: 04
    It's all very sad. To look at people who are over fifty and hate their past, their youth.
    Who had a good, decent life and education, and their dream today is to wash dishes somewhere in the EU. And for this they are ready to risk their lives and kill. What did they lack then and what are they defending today? No, they do not deserve such regret.
  7. +19
    26 June 2025 18: 09
    During war, one should feel sorry for one's own people, and naturally so.
    There is no need to pity enemies, no matter what their motives are.
    Of course, there is no need to mock the prisoners, but to pity everyone en masse - that is from Above. And for the participating side - it is either-or. If you pity the enemy, then you do not pity ours. And vice versa.
    The exchange of prisoners is a purely practical measure: we need to free our own people, and hang the Ukrainian disabled on Ukraine.
  8. +14
    26 June 2025 18: 14
    1. I expect a bunch of minuses, but I will feel sorry for them. We should feel sorry for them, and we will. And we do feel sorry for them now.
    Why? Because they really were fooled. And even if, most likely, it will be so, they will be thrown to the front again, and they will continue to shoot at ours, we should still feel sorry for them. Now. When they are not in the trenches, but here, returning to their own.
    2. What will happen in the future - no one knows. And they don't know either. They will find out, like all of us, later. When the future comes. Now, in the present, they are simply returning home. To their families. Although I would prefer if they cleared the snow beyond the Arctic Circle. All of it. To hell with it, even their families could be allowed to visit them. But until the snow is cleared - they are there. Working. Once it is cleared - let them roll to the four winds.
    Another thing is that the exchange allowed our people to return home.
    The principle of "We don't abandon our own" is more important than people with brains clouded by propaganda, sent to their homeland. If they get caught again, they'll die in the trenches. Well, and if they're lucky, they'll be captured again.
    The article did not impress me. What does the author suggest, hang them or what? Shoot them? Then let him go to the LBC and do as his conscience tells him. There, no one will forbid him to personally decide this question, to pity or not to pity.
    As for me, they exchanged, and they exchanged. We need to think about our own, and not about Ukrainian expendables.
    1. +3
      27 June 2025 12: 58
      Yes, because they were really fooled.

      To your "fooled" I will say in the words of A.S. Pushkin:
      Ah, it's not difficult to deceive me! ..
      I'm happy to deceive myself!

      And the Raguli were ready to be deceived, since even during the Soviet era they considered themselves superior to the Russians, and they separated with "enough feeding the Russians" and will rule without the Russians, they will build a second "storage"...
  9. +10
    26 June 2025 18: 15
    It's funny when Raguli, who never left his village before he was shaved into a Ukro-Wafen, squeals about the borders of 1991! Like: turn back our Crimea! The dog had a house...
    1. +2
      26 June 2025 19: 47
      Wolfskin, my dog ​​has more intelligence than the Ukrainian Ragulya. I hate Ragulya - since childhood.
  10. +10
    26 June 2025 18: 19
    There is no need to pity them! They have proven by their actions that they were not mistaken in their choice, that it was conscious. We must get rid of this bad habit of pitying enemies. Great tragedies grow out of this. At one time they already pitied the first generation Banderovites, and the Baltic SS men, and the Germans, and who else they did not pity, and all at the expense of their own people!

    It's time to skin these defeated Basuramns alive, without any discounts. Moreover, to introduce a ban on any compassion for the enemy in society, up to and including criminal liability. Because this is also one of the reasons for the spread of betrayal.

    And these jumpers from Maidan can only be cured by a terrible flogging and sending them back to the Stone Age, in the literal sense.
    1. +2
      27 June 2025 09: 11
      It's time to get rid of these defeated Basuramnas to fleece three times, without any discounts.

      unfortunately, they won't understand it any other way...
  11. +4
    26 June 2025 18: 19
    In your house, the only valuables are half a bottle of vodka and a Soviet clock on the wall

    I wanted some lace panties...
  12. +11
    26 June 2025 18: 22
    Alexander, think about it, WHAT choice does a person have in a modern state? He is forced to play by the rules, because the state has absolute power over him through laws, the actual possibility of taking away property and the actual possibility of really ruining any person's life under one pretext or another. Few of those 50+ will take off into the sunset if they don't like something - it's not the age to change the country of residence + relatives, old parents if they have them, children, friends.
    So the real choice actually revolves around self-deception - a person can convince himself that this is at least partly "his" fight, and through this not suffer so much from the awareness of violence and absolute power dominating him. Or he can not convince - and then his life will become suffering of one degree or another, where his choice will consist of risk of one degree or another. He can dash to us through the fields and villages - even, let's say, they will not shoot him in the back or beat him up by the FPVshnik. Even, let's say, he reaches us and our people will not beat him up on the way (that's life, alas) or he will not run into a mine.
    What will await him? His property is there, his family is there, his friends are there, his whole life is THERE. On the Other Side.
    When all this is over (and every such muzhYg has no idea WHEN all this will end and HOW) - he will have a choice - either to languish here as a homeless person (even if he gets asylum, etc.), because he will not have a penny here, no one will really help him, considering his background, he is also unlikely to be hired for a quick job, and his age. Oh yeah, and there are also questions about his pension - if he lives that long. After all, his pension was saved up there and not here.
    Or he will go back to There, where all his relatives and friends (as well as the vigilant organs of his dearly loving country) will know that he escaped and surrendered. Do you think they will take it normally if the Ukrainian state is preserved? No, they will simply devour him and turn his life into one solid piece of feces. Even if the cockroach court, which will have a blast on such cases if Ukraine remains a state, does not get to him.

    So, what choice is there?) There is no choice - die or perish. I don't remember whether I wrote it here or not, but... if these men over 50 had been given specifics from our side that they would not remain here with their naked asses in the event of surrender - many more of them would have surrendered.
    And so, in essence, a person choosing between shame and lifelong hemorrhoids and poverty - chooses to hang around in a trench until it melts. Because he really has NO choice.
    1. +8
      26 June 2025 19: 34
      That's all true. It's just not clear why we should feel sorry for them more than for our own. I live here. And my son and grandson will live here. And I want them to have a safe future.
      1. +4
        26 June 2025 20: 39
        This is an incorrect formulation of the question. The question "Either-or" does not exist in this plane - we are dealing with a rather small (relative to enemy losses) number of those surrendering and being captured, and we (apparently) do not have any dogmatic directives to prefer to take prisoner everyone we can at the risk of the lives of the fighters.
        However, I will note that there is a "conversion" factor, when a hypothetical man driven into the trenches by that side and having no alternatives, but possessing property and skills (of any kind), while being, in general, politically amorphous (i.e. he really doesn't care what government he lives under, he is, in principle, an apolitical hedonist) can, under certain circumstances, become our asset. In this case, if we ruthlessly dispose of him, we will lose a potential asset, which in general, in some sense, can be equated, of course, not to a military but to a civilian loss. Because this person can build something, work somewhere, pay taxes and, perhaps, he is still fertile.
        The issue of competent psychological influence on several levels on such characters - as well as the development of the very concept of an "alternative" for such people, giving them this very real "alternative" in the event of surrender - is no less important than the release of drone shells.
        Considering that this "conditional husband" being in the trench on the other side is potentially dangerous for our fighters - taking him out of the game by re-recruiting solves two problems at the same time. The enemy loses a taxpayer, working hands, a soldier - we acquire a potential taxpayer and working hands.
        Of course, this scheme will not work 100% smoothly, considering that potential "sleepers" will also end up in our hands. However, these are already issues of technical development of counterintelligence.

        I will summarize - if we were fighting, for example, with Martians - the question of the importance of humanism or re-recruitment would not be so important. But we are fighting with Slavs, the majority of whom know Russian. Many of them are not even Ukrainians, by the way. So the question of a creative approach and at the same time the long-term benefits of a certain humanism (not as a dogma but as part of a concept) is not some kind of academic pampering. The population of the Russian Federation is only about 150 million souls. Do we have the right to throw away even the most lost of them or those who could become part of it?
    2. +5
      27 June 2025 06: 03
      Quote: Knell Wardenheart
      If these men over 50 had been given specifics from our side that they would not remain here with a naked ass in the event of surrender, many more of them would have surrendered.

      I wrote at the beginning - the formula "Surrendered - received 50 euros, brought a commander with you - another 000, brought a tank - another +10" - would have worked then.
      Now - I'm not sure anymore
      1. +4
        27 June 2025 11: 41
        50k euros is too rich, IMHO somewhere around 2.5 million rubles for "then". Regarding bonuses regarding the drive of equipment, etc. - I agree with you! Here it seems to me important not only to entice with money (based on the possibility of using this money to subsequently purchase real estate in our country), but also to give these people guarantees of subsequent employment and a future in principle for them personally, if they wish to stay and accept citizenship.
        I believe that in many ways this scheme has not lost its relevance even now. Of course, these guarantees should extend to those who surrendered immediately before the clash, i.e. who defected to us. Coverage of expenses for these people would be made from the requisition of property of elements hostile to the Russian Federation in the newly occupied territories.
        If the scheme were thought out, it would make its contribution, IMHO.
        1. +2
          27 June 2025 11: 51
          Quote: Knell Wardenheart
          50k euros is too rich, IMHO it was about 2.5 million rubles for “then”.

          It would be too little for them - they promise funerals and, although rarely, they pay - 28 million rubles.

          Quote: Knell Wardenheart
          If the scheme were thought out, it would make its contribution, IMHO.
          I remembered an old joke about Afghanistan: "Warrant officer - fine of 10 dollars" (c).
          Brought the head of a dead officer with documents or brought him alive - a separate bonus belay recourse request lol
          Joke.
          But the fact that at the beginning (2014-15) they sold equipment and ammunition to the LDNR is 1000%
      2. +1
        27 June 2025 13: 09
        I think it would work - surrender yourself without participating in military actions, receive some kind of document, kick you in the ass and go to your beloved West.
        1. -1
          27 June 2025 13: 19
          Quote: Billi Bons1972
          to the beloved West.

          You forget about the procedure "to the beloved West" - there is no process of "kicking the ass". And they can simply not be allowed into the West - especially from Russia
          1. 0
            27 June 2025 13: 22
            They let us in at 22:XNUMX - many people left Ukraine through Crimea to Georgia
            1. +2
              27 June 2025 13: 24
              Quote: Billi Bons1972
              They let us in at 22:XNUMX - many people left Ukraine through Crimea to Georgia

              С Ukrainian passports and lack of visas between Georgia and Ukraine.
    3. +2
      27 June 2025 13: 03
      No. There is always a choice. There is the "Bohdan Khmelnitsky" battalion. Those who did not want to choose between shame and poverty, those who really do not have "a house on the edge", fight there. Therefore, there is always a choice. Even if you are eaten, you have at least two options.
  13. +9
    26 June 2025 18: 26
    It's already uncomfortable to hear about "brotherly people" what
    1. +8
      26 June 2025 19: 07
      Quote: Rage66
      It's already uncomfortable to hear about "brotherly people"

      And what about migrants from Asia? Brotherly? There are already half of Moscow...
      1. -7
        26 June 2025 19: 35
        They do something with their hands... They sweep the streets, build houses...
        Nobody talks about "brotherhood" here...
        And you, I see, are from Moscow?
        And half of Moscow was already given away Yes
        Well, decide for yourself, on the spot. hi
        1. +4
          26 June 2025 19: 40
          Quote: Rage66
          And you, I see, are from Moscow?

          From Tver. I work in production. "iron". There are no Asian republics (although there used to be a few), but at the construction site under the window - almost 100%.
          I come from the Kursk region - almost all my relatives are there, and I often go there myself.
          Where are you from?
          1. 0
            26 June 2025 19: 43
            I live in the Urals... And you in Tver know that half of Moscow is made up of migrants...
            surprisingly what
            1. +3
              26 June 2025 19: 48
              Quote: Rage66
              And you in Tver know that half of Moscow is made up of migrants...
              surprisingly

              The electric train (high-speed) takes a little over an hour - why wouldn't you know?
              Quote: Rage66
              I live in the Urals...

              The Urals are big. I go on business trips sometimes. To many places.
              Maybe you can specify the place more specifically? Maybe I have already been to your city or town?
              1. +3
                26 June 2025 19: 50
                Are you inviting yourself to visit?
                Ok, I live in Yekaterinburg
                1. 0
                  26 June 2025 19: 59
                  Quote: Rage66
                  Are you inviting yourself to visit?

                  Why? In a good city there are many places where you can meet a good conversationalist.
                  Quote: Rage66
                  Ok, I live in Yekaterinburg

                  I've been to this city many times. Quite pleasant memories) although it's been a long time - more than 5 years. I happened to live in Vysotsky for a couple of days - it was imprinted. Although usually more modest.
                  If suddenly a business trip with free time is organized - I have an online comrade there (Alexey Korolev - Rodina slonov on Zen) - I invite you to join the meeting. When will it take place after the war. Alexey is now in active units - but not the Armed Forces, but with Rogozin. You can easily find it with a search, and ask about me - how real I am, and how much from Tver)
                  1. +2
                    26 June 2025 20: 02
                    how real am I, and how much am I from Tver)

                    I take your word for it, and why not meet with a good conversationalist? hi
                    1. +1
                      26 June 2025 20: 08
                      Quote: Rage66
                      I take your word for it, and why not meet with a good conversationalist?

                      If it's not too much trouble, type KE Technika in the search, the official website is in the contacts, email, write a few words to Vladimir - I'll read it and answer.
                      and then we'll see how it goes, but let's hope for the best)
                      1. +1
                        26 June 2025 20: 09
                        I always hope for the best Yes
                      2. 0
                        26 June 2025 20: 11
                        Vladimir Nikolaevich?...
                      3. -1
                        26 June 2025 20: 12
                        Quote: Rage66
                        Vladimir Nikolaevich?..

                        Yes
                      4. 0
                        26 June 2025 20: 13
                        You are very frivolous... Giving your data to strangers
                      5. 0
                        26 June 2025 20: 15
                        We are all under surveillance. What is there to hide?
                      6. 0
                        26 June 2025 20: 16
                        Okay, type in Pilotfm.ru and look for Andrey Zommer there
              2. -4
                26 June 2025 19: 51
                The electric train (high-speed) takes a little over an hour - why wouldn't you know?

                So you are also a kind of migrant?
                Do you go to the capital for rubles? wassat
                1. 0
                  26 June 2025 20: 04
                  Quote: Rage66
                  So you are also a kind of migrant?
                  Do you go to the capital for rubles?

                  No. There are many business trips via Moscow, many exhibitions in Moscow - for a visitor and participant (for work), and there are always tickets to Kursk from Tver. And in Moscow itself almost all the money is collected - sometimes you have to go to meetings.
          2. 0
            26 June 2025 22: 10
            So you hire migrant workers?
      2. -2
        27 June 2025 05: 05
        Quote: Vladimir-TTT
        Quote: Rage66
        It's already uncomfortable to hear about "brotherly people"

        And what about migrants from Asia? Brotherly? There are already half of Moscow...

        Excuse me, but when did Moscow become part of Russia? Or vice versa?
  14. +7
    26 June 2025 18: 28
    Unfortunately, the galley helmsman doesn't read such articles...
  15. +9
    26 June 2025 18: 36
    I apologize, of course, but just recently there was an article here about people from God's chosen nation who, after WWII, privatized the concept of "Holocaust" only for their nation. Many here in the comments wrote that almost five times more Soviet people died then than the Nazis then destroyed the nation chosen by God, but neither the concept of genocide of the Soviet people nor the "holocaust" of the Russian nation, about whose fate during the Great Patriotic War God himself cried, together with it, is still applied to Soviet people... So where did this morning article go and why instead of it these very mugs, which, if they had not been captured and our SVO had lost, would have cut these mugs of Russians so that God would not only have cried together with the Russians, God would have gone crazy from the hitherto unseen genocide of Russians... Well, where did this morning article about the people chosen by God go, having privatized the concept of "holocaust" in relation only to them?
  16. bar
    +3
    26 June 2025 18: 45
    Should we feel sorry for them? Exactly as much as that side "feels sorry" for ours.

    If we take our cues from "the other side", how will we differ from them?
  17. +7
    26 June 2025 18: 46
    Years/decades of yellow-blue propaganda have turned once relatively normal people into just db!!!!! How to eradicate the devilry from these individuals? This will last for decades...
  18. +3
    26 June 2025 18: 51
    Personally, I see only enemies. Everything else, like compassion, pity, humanity - is just pink snot. Those who wanted - surrendered, those who managed - escaped, those who could - paid off. All the rest, with weapons in their hands, must be destroyed.
    1. -4
      26 June 2025 19: 48
      Personally, I only see enemies. Everything else, like compassion, pity, humanity - is just pink snot.
      This is Trotskyism in its purest form. Plus involvement in Nazism.
      Let me explain. A hypothetical Dzhumshut, who came to work and earn money in Russia, is not an enemy. A hypothetical Mykola, who was grabbed by Ukrainian military commissars and sent to a trench, is forced to shoot. Yes, at our people. Yes, to kill. But I have a personal question for you: Are you ready to die, just so you don’t have to shoot at those who are shooting at you? You are given a weapon, and a platoon is coming at you. And shooting. Will you run straight to them, skipping, or maybe, after all, will you first start shooting back?!
      Doesn't anything bother you? You're being shot at, and you're ready to just stick your head out of the trench to meet the bullets? Surrender, like? Well, well...
      Trotsky's idea was world revolution. Without all the merchilyundies, who is not with us is against us. Kill the enemy, shoot the opponent, there is only my opinion, and it is wrong.
      Personally, I see in your opinion the opinion of an enemy. An enemy of humanity. An enemy of all other points of view.
      And this is exactly what the fans of Nazism and globalism are trying to achieve. To reduce humanity and subordinate all those who survived to their idea.
  19. +5
    26 June 2025 18: 58
    Unfortunately, it turned out to be very easy to sow hatred among the Slavs. All the historical experience of our country turned out to be useless. Allow me one historical line: the 13th century, Russian principalities are being cut up in internecine wars. And at this time, hordes of Mongol Horde appear. And voila! They calmly cut out all the victors in the internecine wars.
    P.S. Who organized the migrant invasion into Russia? Or has Kosovo's fate taught no one anything?
    1. -13
      26 June 2025 19: 40
      Who organized the invasion of migrants into Russia?

      The invasion of migrants into Russia was organized by the unwillingness of Russians to do menial work for little money...
      And the authorities' unwillingness to deal with this issue hi
      If you didn't know
      1. +3
        27 June 2025 09: 37
        Enough already with the story "about the unwillingness of Russians to do dirty work for little money", a huge part of Russians work for much less money.

        I have a friend, our Russian guy, about whom they say "a man with a biography" he registered himself as an individual entrepreneur and went to work as a janitor back in the early 2000s, then there were no migrants in this business, now he is alone. His income significantly exceeds the salary of many of my friends working in offices of companies like "Rostelecom". So he has to butt heads with our new fellow citizens (or rather, the management companies, housing associations, and administrations that actively support them) oh how.

        And this is just one example, also inquire about the wages at construction sites, but initially they hire people from the republics and here we will get to the second part of your message about the "unwillingness of the authorities to deal with this issue". Or rather about the conscious desire of the authorities to fill many niches with such people, because taxes, deductions and other sick leave do not need to be paid for them, they will not create a trade union, they will not demand even the slightest observance of rights and will turn a blind eye to many violations of the employer. And this same employer, if we talk about shooting, large capitals with Alast have long merged, various management companies are also in close connection and so it turns out that everyone seems to understand everything, but for capital it is more profitable. And therefore for the state.

        On the topic of the article, we probably need to feel sorry for Ukrainians globally. We are one people with one history, after all, but those who are armed in their hands on the LBS are only to be destroyed, because this is war. Those who were captured should be checked and if they are an outright Nazi, involved in crimes against our people, send them to fell trees or be shot, and exchange the rest for our men.
        1. +3
          27 June 2025 12: 19
          In our Krasnodar region, it is forbidden to take them to construction sites except for concrete work
        2. +1
          27 June 2025 13: 26
          We are one people after all

          You are a very naive person.
          Not so long ago, I also believed that people should be the way I would like to imagine them.
          Time has proven my beliefs wrong.
    2. -2
      26 June 2025 23: 02
      And in your opinion, did the principalities just go and unite? Or were they all united by fire and sword?
    3. +1
      27 June 2025 11: 30
      You are trying to explain historical analogies that are too complex for the local elite.
      Here, above the level of "how to kill prisoners or wait a little" "not only everyone" can think.

      Look how the local news characters will rejoice: “More than 2024 million foreign citizens entered Russia during 6, said the head of the Main Directorate for Migration Issues of the Ministry of Internal Affairs Valentina Kazakova at the session “Labor Migration. Economic Dimension” within the framework of the St. Petersburg International Economic Forum (SPIEF-2025).
      According to her, 50% of this number arrived in the country to find employment. Almost a quarter of migrants entered Russia from Uzbekistan (23,3%). Less popular countries were Tajikistan (16,7%), Kyrgyzstan (10,4%) and Belarus (9,5%). About 700 foreign citizens were illegally in Russia, while 000 people were expelled from the country. This information was provided by Kazakova on the slides."
      https://www.vedomosti.ru/society/news/2025/06/19/1118529-v-rossiyu-pribili?from=copy_text
  20. +3
    26 June 2025 19: 11
    The formulation of the question is initially incorrect. Everyone should not be lumped together.
    Some surrendered themselves, while others were not worth taking prisoner and were destroyed on the spot.
    One volunteered to fight, and the other took a machine gun and went to the front lines.
    By and large, the workers don’t need war from any side.
    Each prisoner must be dealt with individually.
  21. +1
    26 June 2025 19: 14
    Our prisoners are also "wrapped in flags"
    But ...
    First they send to Belarus.
    Why and why?
    What if they didn’t tell us how and thanks to whom they ended up in this captivity?
    1. +3
      27 June 2025 06: 15
      Quote: Vladimir-TTT
      Our prisoners are also "wrapped in flags"
      But ...
      First they send to Belarus.
      Why and why?
      What if they didn’t tell us how and thanks to whom they ended up in this captivity?

      And it doesn’t matter that Belarus is a neutral country for Ukraine - organizing calm exchange of prisoners.
      Or don't you remember the downed IL with prisoners? They don't believe us - we don't believe them.
      If there were no Belarus, they would exchange through Turkey or China.
    2. +1
      27 June 2025 08: 38
      The special officers will figure out who and how was captured, there could be a lot of conditions and reasons... it is clear that if it turns out that he himself or while in captivity did something unseemly, he will answer. By the way, recently during another exchange the bosses gave away such a traitor from among the former prisoners who voluntarily defected to their side...
    3. +2
      27 June 2025 12: 21
      They are exchanged through Belarus and not sent there!!!!!!!!
  22. +2
    26 June 2025 19: 17
    Should we feel sorry for them?

    "Even the most ferocious beast has a drop of pity. But I don't, which means I'm not a beast."
    I have slightly adapted a phrase from William Shakespeare's "Richard III". Don't judge me too harshly, dear ones.




    🎬 Shadow boxing 🔗 https://citaty.info/quote/250968
  23. +5
    26 June 2025 19: 18
    We are not people at all for them, just swamp moksha. So there can be no talk of pity for them either on the battlefield or outside of it! Surrender, good. No, that means two hundred and that's the end of it.
  24. +3
    26 June 2025 21: 27
    "Look around, who do you see? Businessmen, teachers, lawyers, workers, ordinary people whose minds we are saving. However, as long as these people are part of the system, they are all our enemies! You must remember that the majority are not ready to accept reality. And many are so poisoned and so hopelessly dependent on the system that they will fight for it!" "The Matrix" conversation between Morpheus and Neo.
  25. +2
    26 June 2025 22: 06
    No mercy for these imbeciles
  26. +6
    26 June 2025 22: 34
    This is not the first time I have seen how easily and simply the terms "ethnos", "people", "population", "nationality", "citizenship" ("nationality" for monarchies) and "nation" are confused. So who are the "Ukrainians", and "Belarusians" and "Russians"? These are no longer ethnic groups, because in the modern world only in remote, hard-to-reach places on the planet can you find some ethnic groups united biologically and culturally. Modern ethnic groups inhabiting a common territory have even crossed the line of the term "population", because for a long time they were fused into territories through social ties and economic interaction. As a result, "peoples" were born, who were at first "subjects" of various feudal monarchs, and as a result of the transition from feudalism to capitalism, for the sake of the needs of the new bourgeoisie class, they turned into "nations" and became "citizens" of national states.
    Their economic relations have changed, their social connections have been adjusted, but the culture that was born in the era of "ethnoses" is changing very slowly. Now the more or less united ethnos of the Eastern Slavs has acquired new social connections with other ethnoses. Economic relations have been subordinated to the system of separate sovereign national states. All this developed practically in the natural way of human coexistence, but culture has fallen victim to "national" propaganda. The ruling circles of the bourgeoisie have made and are making maximum efforts to destroy the heritage of cultural unity and the education of "national cultures". Each bourgeois "nation" must isolate itself and break any ties with "outsiders".
    The Soviet government tried to level "national cultures" and cultivate supranational and supraethnic unity of its population, but it could not and did not have time to complete the task. The opponents of the Soviet government were able to catch the historical moment of instability and returned to us "nations", "national states" and "national cultures". All this for the sake of successfully suppressing the desire for supranational unity and the revival of bourgeois economic relations of capitalism. In the USSR, the concepts of "Russian", "Ukrainian", "Belarusian" were simply ethno-cultural markers, but now they are markers of belonging to "nations". Moses led the Jews through the desert for forty years so that by the time they arrived in the "promised land" everyone who remembered life in Egypt, the joint life of different ethnic groups, would die. He needed to turn the Jews into "Jews" ("sons of Israel"), who had no connections with the surrounding peoples and ethnic groups. We, in fact, also "marched through the desert" for a long time, so that we could be made into separate nations, with separate national states and alien national cultures. Now it is really difficult to talk about the brotherhood of peoples, but this brotherhood is natural, and the division into "nations" is artificial. This division will continue to exist as long as there is a division into antagonistic classes - the ruling bourgeoisie and the subordinate working class. As long as the bourgeoisie holds power, the gap between people will deepen, and the heritage of cultural unity will disappear.
  27. +3
    27 June 2025 01: 54
    Quote: Vladimir-TTT
    Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
    Let's speak honestly and openly: Ukrainians have never been a thinking part of society.

    You are very wrong. During the USSR, the number of universities, research institutes, high-tech production, and the number of educated and thinking people associated with it was almost record-breaking. In the USSR.

    There were many educated people, but few smart ones.
  28. icy
    -1
    27 June 2025 06: 30
    Let them keep these flags - they will have something to cover the coffins with. It's a saving, though.
  29. -1
    27 June 2025 06: 38
    That's probably why, to put it mildly, they don't like us. To reflect and fall into "Tolstoyism" at the slightest provocation. The Americans are a different matter - they burned Dresden and Hamburg to hell, and now they are first-class friends with the Germans. Hiroshima-Nagasaki, and the Japanese dote on them, they have such a personal affection for them that they can't eat with spoons, only with sticks. You need to be simpler, have more healthy cynicism and people will be drawn to you.
  30. 0
    27 June 2025 08: 15
    Oh, my, reasonable thoughts in the 4th year of your own! Suppressing any squeak against Russians and Russia is out of options.
  31. +2
    27 June 2025 08: 24
    Judging by the movie footage and memories of the Great Patriotic War, at the beginning of the war many considered the fascists to be fraternal proletarians intoxicated by propaganda and were eager to explain and appeal to solidarity. Proletarians of all countries, damn it. Doesn't that remind you of anything? Fraternal people don't behave like that.
  32. 0
    27 June 2025 09: 00
    Strange, blatant hypocrisy, IMHO.
    And what did you want?
    4th year of death and bombing. Death of relatives.
    11 years of poverty, corruption and shelling in the LPR and DPR.
    The Drain of the Russian Spring. The Strange Death of a Three-Time Hero and Others. The Death and Imprisonment of Russian Spring Figures.
    Growth of oligarchs' fortunes despite sanctions....

    All this has become statistics. The day before yesterday, supposedly, explosions were heard in our backwoods too. (Air defense)
  33. 0
    27 June 2025 09: 04
    Not "brotherly people" but part of our people! Every Russian has in his circle of acquaintances people working for Western masters. What can I say, we all gave up our country for Mercedes, right-hand drive Japanese cars, blue American pants and green candy wrappers.
  34. +1
    27 June 2025 09: 14
    The day after tomorrow they will be back on LBS, experienced and cunning.
  35. +3
    27 June 2025 09: 29
    It is not clear why our returnees are now being wrapped in the Russian flag!
  36. +1
    27 June 2025 10: 36
    In my country, fortunately, there is no war, so I will not talk about it. But I can say that in the trenches there are always different people, and among the Ukrainian elite there are Nazis, there are no random people. They mostly have a good time there, even the less famous ones do business, and their children are not touched by the military police.
  37. +2
    27 June 2025 11: 44
    He who pities them will feel very sorry. All I can say is that I have seen enough of these faces since childhood, they were the same in the 70s and 80s, they just looked more cautiously, now they have received "their" statehood and look without hiding their eyes, that is the only difference.
  38. 0
    27 June 2025 12: 00
    For me personally, everything finally became clear after 2014. Then all my former classmates from the former Ukrainian SSR, with rare exceptions, "came out" and showed their true face (their ass). I will add that we graduated from military school at the height of the so-called stagnation. So, there is nothing surprising.
  39. +1
    27 June 2025 12: 29
    they "were and remain our brothers"?

    There are no brothers there, the bacillus of Ukrainianism has infected everyone there, this bacillus even infects Russians, therefore this bacillus and its carriers must be destroyed...
  40. +1
    27 June 2025 13: 21
    Ours were also forced to wrap themselves in flags, copied from pigs, it makes me sick, I want to puke.
  41. 0
    27 June 2025 13: 47
    Quote: Vladimir-TTT
    Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
    Let's speak honestly and openly: Ukrainians have never been a thinking part of society.

    You are very wrong. During the USSR, the number of universities, research institutes, high-tech production, and the number of educated and thinking people associated with it was almost record-breaking. In the USSR.

    Not in the horse's food.
  42. +4
    27 June 2025 14: 42
    There are no emptinesses in nature, if Russia left Ukraine, its place was taken by the West. So they got what they deserved. In order for these people to want to be friends with Russia, we need to show that we are a strong, prosperous country. And this is not the case.
  43. 0
    27 June 2025 18: 00
    They fed them up on Russian food, treated them. And they treated many of them. A ready base for new companies of the Ukrainian Armed Forces. They prepared problems for themselves. If you compare the state in which the Russian guys return.
  44. 0
    27 June 2025 18: 08
    Nothing will change in their heads. They are zombies, no longer people. And increasingly, non-humans. Enough about "one people". I do not consider myself one of them. Even in the times of the USSR, I was surprised to discover the presence of German-Nazi ideology in the heads of the Okraintsy.
  45. +3
    27 June 2025 20: 32
    A strange article, a prisoner is a prisoner, and you might as well look at the faces of our servicemen in captivity. Captivity is a tragedy. I would like to remind hotheads here that our leadership pulled out about five thousand of our captured servicemen from the Ukrainian side. Also, according to our human rights commission, about 3.5 thousand of our servicemen are listed as missing. And most importantly, the Ukrainian people have not been our brothers for a long time, we must stop carrying this nonsense from our channels and filling the heads of our citizens.
  46. 0
    27 June 2025 21: 15
    I just don't get it - what's with this habit of looking for "Brotherly Narrott" in any garbage dump!? ... We don't have brothers. We are orphans.
  47. +1
    28 June 2025 09: 15
    Why wrap the returned in flags at all? Ours were also wrapped and called "heroes". A flag is a symbol and "it is not proper to use the name of the Lord in vain". And as for heroes - this is just too much. Maybe some really did defend themselves to the last and were captured wounded and unconscious. And some may not. First, the competent authorities need to sort them out, and only then divide them "into flies and cutlets".
  48. +1
    28 June 2025 10: 31
    Took up arms, enemy, must be destroyed if not surrendered. There can be no pity in principle.
  49. +1
    28 June 2025 16: 23
    What do faces have to do with it? I remember the nobles judged Russian peasants by their faces as barbarians.
    Ukraine in normal translation is Frontier or Borderland. Accordingly, the mentality of the people living there is exactly like that. To appropriate any trifle means to survive. And whoever takes it from you is a fierce enemy. And so for centuries.
    Besides, Ukrainianism is "my hut is on the edge, but it is in the center of the world." An eternal dispute between the imperial idea and the interests of the village.
  50. +1
    29 June 2025 17: 43
    As long as high-ranking speakers continue to talk about brothers from the Ex-SSR, the exchanges will continue.
    And for every private soldier who was returned to his country, who did his military duty, a very important politician will throw a flag. He will give a speech about truth, justice and the hopes of the... the population... the taxpayers... the managers of these populations and taxpayers.
    A flag with two colors is a bad flag.
    It is not for nothing that bouquets are made from an odd number of flowers. If you think about tomorrow, and not about the day before yesterday.
  51. +1
    30 June 2025 13: 46
    That's exactly it. There is a war going on and we didn't provoke it. And all this cooing and liberal nonsense should be discarded and forgotten. There is an enemy and he must be defeated!