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Not good for Israel

Yes, it's like in the great Krylov's fable about the cuckoo and the rooster: the US won't criticize the Israeli Iron Dome system, considering the amount of money the US poured into it: 2,6 billion dollars. It's no secret that the Pentagon helped with money in the development and bought at least two batteries, which now cover US bases on the Arabian Peninsula.

That's why it's quite logical to praise it.



But if you look closely, the Iron Dome is a whole defense system aimed at intercepting everything that flies to Israel. And it should be noted that there is a wide range of things flying. Iran has been working in this direction for a long time, and that is why it missiles They may not arrive where they need to, but they get through the defense.


It should be noted that this tactical missile defense system is designed to protect against unguided tactical missiles with a range of 4 to 70 kilometers. This should be emphasized because in 2011 the situation was different in 2025. And if in those days only cruise missiles could maneuver, for better or worse, today ballistic and aeroballistic missiles can optionally do this.

It turns out that after less than 15 years, the Iron Dome is obsolete?


Well, it's not all that bad. It all depends on what target the system will be working on. The Israeli military claims that even an aircraft at altitudes of up to 10 km will not be pleased if the LC fires at it.


As for the missiles, everything is simple here: the JC received excellent marks working on what Hamas and Hezbollah launched, and these were either homemade products based on MLRS shells or homemade products from old Soviet SCUD-type missiles. It's like a football match between Maccabi Tel Aviv and Fakel Voronezh - a show with a completely predictable result in favor of one of the sides.

In the first hours of the Hamas invasion of Israel on October 7, 2023, Hamas fired an estimated 2500 to 5000 rockets from the Gaza Strip into Israeli territory. Most were intercepted by the Iron Dome or fell in open areas, and five people were killed when rockets hit populated areas not protected by the Iron Dome.

Well, here you can see for yourself what the difference in numbers is, the quality was about the same. And, perhaps, it is worth agreeing that the efficiency of the LCD can reach 90%. If you shoot at Israel with God knows what.

But if high-tech products are used... No, I'm sure that the LCD will cope with the "Caliber", but something like the "Onyx" and "Dagger" will definitely put the system into a stupor.


What is the main problem of any SAM? In calculating the optimal point of meeting of the missile and the anti-missile based on radar data. Ballistic missiles, which fly at very high speeds, are not easy targets. But hypersonic ones, and maneuvering ones at that…

Yes, there is the David's Sling/Stanner for them. A newer system that can handle short-range ballistic missiles and large-caliber unguided rockets, as well as subsonic cruise missiles. The Sling's launch range is from 70 to 300 km.


Each missile is equipped with two guidance systems at once: radar and optical-electronic. This greatly increases the cost of each missile, and what's more, "Stanner" costs one million dollars each. In Israel, they believe that the game is worth the candle, since what will be shot down by "David's Sling" can cause much greater damage.

Overall, the PD complements the LCD well, covering the medium range.

And on the farthest borders of Israel, in theory, there should be “Arrows”.


That is, the Hetz exoatmospheric interception system. It is the brainchild of a joint effort between Israel Aerospace Industries (IAI) and Boeing. We generally know it as THAAD in the US, yes, that is it. The Americans just did it a little differently, the Israelis went a little their own way, but, in essence, it is still a kinetic interceptor (a high-speed crowbar, controlled by a good computer), capable of destroying a ballistic missile in space.

The prices here are already astronomical: “Hetz-2” costs 2 million dollars, and “Hetz-3” – 3 million.


However, Israel has high hopes for the ability to intercept ballistic missiles with a range of 1000 to 5000 km, such as Iran's Shahab-3 and Sajjil missiles, outside the atmosphere.

It must be said that, judging by the footage filmed in Lebanon, Israel really does shoot down almost everything that flies there. Yes, some of them are hit almost point-blank, but they do hit. But some of them really do get through. Moreover, the work Defense on the last line often leads to the destruction of civilian objects. A missile shot down on the last approaches - it only does good for the military report, but for civilians it does extremely badly, because it falls on buildings.

However, you and I already understand perfectly well what we are talking about. Now they understand it in Israel too. They will soon understand that anti-missiles at 1-3 million dollars are very expensive, especially when there are ten anti-missiles on the other side for every one.

In the current conditions, something more widely applicable and less expensive is really needed.

So, are we talking about lasers again?



It turns out that yes. More precisely, not us, but the Americans, but there is an opinion in certain circles that it is the laser that can become a reliable assistant for the rocket.

Today, many journalists in the US have stirred up the topic of the "Iron Ray". In principle, their move is clear: Israel is clearly losing the fight with Iran, and not qualitatively, but exclusively quantitatively. But this is exactly the case when quantity decides, because when Israel can respond to ten missiles launched by Iran with three or four - then in the promised land many will change their understanding of the country's policy in the region.

So, it's time to give smart advice. Giving money so that Israel could urgently churn out hundreds of missiles costing from a million dollars to three per unit is questionable. And, actually, it's a bit late. So it's better to think about what Israel will have to do to protect itself from Iranian missiles. In the event that there is something to protect.

Israel's Iron Dome Is Virtually Impervious to Rockets, But New Laser weapon could render it completely obsolete. The Iron Dome is about 90 percent effective at stopping incoming missiles. The Iron Beam will try to close the remaining gap."

On Friday, June 13, 2025, Israel used aircraft and Drones against Iran in an unprecedented series of coordinated strikes targeting key nuclear facilities, critical energy infrastructure, and senior military leaders and scientists.

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu called the military operation "a decisive moment in stories "Israel." Iran called it a "declaration of war" and quickly retaliated. As of Tuesday, Iran had fired some 370 ballistic missiles at Israel in five days of conflict, according to the Israel Defense Forces (IDF). At least 224 people were killed and 1400 wounded in Iran, while 24 people were killed and dozens more wounded in Israel, according to governments in both countries.

The numbers are really in Israel's favor, especially since it wasn't just civilians who were killed in Iran who were accidentally hit. But every day more and more Iranian missiles are penetrating the Iron Dome and causing more and more damage.


What makes things even more complicated is that the Iron Dome is an extremely expensive solution to the problem of indiscriminate missile attacks, with each Tamir interceptor costing between $40 and $50. No, there's no comparison with the David's Sling and the Arrows, but: hundreds of such interceptors are needed, and that's where the millions and even tens of millions of dollars come in.

So, in keeping with the idea that “Something must be done,” Israel’s government-owned defense contractor Rafael Advanced Defense Systems, which developed Iron Dome with Israel Aerospace Industries and the American defense contractor Raytheon, is already developing Iron Dome’s successor: a laser-based missile defense system known as Iron Beam.


Iron Ray is a 100-kilowatt high-energy laser weapon system that detonates a rocket propellant or explosive warhead by heating it to a critical temperature very quickly. Theoretically, the laser system could fire an unlimited number of shots, rather than the 20 shots per battery of Iron Dome. It would also be much more cost-effective, as the only limiting factor is its reliability and access to electricity, which costs about 14 cents per kilowatt-hour in Israel.

True, if the high efficiency of the Iron Ray counteraction is discovered, the enemy will have an irresistible desire to hit the energy source. Considering that 96% of electricity in Israel is generated by burning gas and coal, it is very easy to find a thermal power plant by its heat trace.

"Iron Beam will not replace Iron Dome, but rather complement it. Directed energy allows kinetic interceptors to be prioritized based on the threats they are most needed to counter. Once operational, Iron Beam will be integrated as an additional layer of Israel's short-range missile defense, capable of engaging threats at ranges of up to 7 km."

Iron Beam successfully completed its testing in 2022, and was originally expected to be deployed in two to three years. It’s unclear when Israel will ultimately receive the laser weapon, but the country received $1,2 billion in U.S. funding last year to purchase it. One thing is clear, however: If Iran is determined to continue firing missiles at Israel and Iron Beam enters the war, lasers could enhance the effectiveness of Iron Dome.

The system is quite interesting, it uses a 100 kW fiber laser beam as a destructive factor and is designed to destroy artillery shells, artillery mines and short-range missiles that are too small to be effectively intercepted by the Iron Dome. In addition, the system will be able to destroy small UAVs, which is very useful in this day and age.


The so-called fiber laser, the advantages of fiber lasers traditionally include high-quality cooling (that is, the ability to actually make many “shots”), heat resistance of silicon and small dimensions of devices with a simply excellent power/efficiency ratio.

Lasers of other designs require special optical collimation systems to form a beam of light, which makes the devices sensitive to vibrations. In fiber lasers, radiation is generated directly in the fiber, and it has high optical quality. The disadvantages of this type of lasers are the relatively low output energy in the pulse, due to the small volume of the active substance, but tests of the LL showed that this pulse is sufficient to detonate a projectile or mine. Rocket fuel requires even less energy to detonate it.

Fiber lasers are inferior to solid-state lasers in many areas of application and in some spectral ranges (0,7-1,0 µm), but fiber systems have the advantage of compactness, which is very useful in the case of a combat system that must quickly move if necessary.

According to tests, the Iron Ray destroys targets by irradiating them for 4-5 seconds, which is more than enough to detonate fuel or explosives. The main advantages of the laser over interceptor missiles are a lower cost per shot (about a thousand dollars), theoretically unlimited ammunition, lower maintenance costs and a smaller number of weapons crews, and rapid target destruction. Disadvantages are lower mobility and dependence on an energy source.

The complex includes a radar installation, a control center and two laser installations. It is mounted on truck chassis. The laser installations are mounted inside standard cargo containers, which serves as additional camouflage, and therefore somewhat increases the survivability of the system.

Israeli defense company Rafael first demonstrated the system at an exhibition in Singapore on February 11, 2014, where it said that over XNUMX tests had been conducted in which the system was aimed at artillery mines and shells, and also shot down small UAVs.

On November 20, 2023, the system performed the first-ever combat interception using a laser, shooting down a mortar shell fired from Lebanon into Israeli territory.

There has been no further news about the effective operation of the Iron Beam, but this is quite understandable for the reasons given above. However, the situation is very difficult.

The Washington Post wrote on June 18 that the confrontation between Israel and Iran can only continue as long as the parties retain their missile stockpiles. And here the odds are not in Israel's favor: the fact that Iran has more than half of its missile arsenal hidden under the protection of mountain ranges, according to the Israeli military, greatly complicates the situation, since the IDF's air and missile defense capabilities are gradually declining.


Of course, the US will not leave its ally without help, and I am sure that they will throw missiles at Israel. The only question is how many and what kind. And the quantity will be the dominant factor here.

The fact that the US has started talking about a laser system that would complement the missile defense system is not good. It is not good for Israel first of all, because they have already sent the missiles that were promised to Ukraine, which simply stunned the local Fuhrer. Apparently, the US does not have enough missiles that could help Israel out in the current situation.

It's like the saying goes: rely on the laser, but you need something to shoot down the missiles.
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  1. + 14
    23 June 2025 04: 07
    The best air defense is tanks on the enemy airfield. The best missile defense is bombed launchers.
    1. Ana
      -2
      23 June 2025 14: 15
      I completely agree. But looking at the history of conflicts between these two countries, it seems to me that until they shoot each other, nothing will change. Israel is used to acting from a position of strength, very wisely, if the losses do not exceed the unacceptable, Iran potentially has the means. But, if there is a will
    2. -4
      5 July 2025 21: 14
      The best air defense is peaceful behavior and a strong army, not tanks at the airfield.
  2. +1
    23 June 2025 04: 17
    I'll make it clear right away - I don't understand military affairs. Especially not politics. We follow the news, two pensioners, swearing in the kitchen, well, like probably 99% of VO readers.
    But what will happen there, on BV, I am both very interested and very worried about. For us, for commoners, what is better, who wins there? ("Commoners" I call as they are, that's us, what is there to be ashamed of.)

    What will happen next, well, what if the Americans give the command to use a nuclear strike on Iran? To suppress and also to show the world who is the master of the planet, the strongest, and therefore he can do anything.
    They'll figure out now that the "iron dome" is a little leaky, and then they'll go boom.

    Well, the fact that in Istanbul there are Muslim comrades who are passing resolutions, but you can't defend yourself with paper. The Persians don't have nuclear weapons, that's why the Americans are rushing to hammer them.
    And after the Persians, won’t this whole gang of bandits think to explain to us where our place is?
    We are treating our outskirts humanely and carefully, because these are essentially our lands, and there is no need to defile them with nuclear weapons.
    What is the prognosis for us, depending on the outcome of the situation at BY?
    1. -4
      23 June 2025 04: 47
      Quote: Uma Palata
      What is the prognosis for us, depending on the outcome of the situation at BY?

      There will be no consequences for the Russian Federation. Israel may not be our friend, but Bibi is neutral. The US, represented by Donnie, is also trying to make the relationship neutral.
      1. + 17
        23 June 2025 11: 42
        Israel is an enemy and it behaves exactly like that. This pro-Israeli sect in "our elite" is especially dangerous.
        1. + 16
          23 June 2025 13: 03
          Quote: Pioneer1984
          so. This pro-Israeli sect in "our elite" is especially dangerous.

          And what about pro-Chinese or pro-Turkish? Aren't they dangerous? And where is the pro-Russian sect?
    2. +1
      23 June 2025 04: 48
      Typo: depending on the situation on BY.
    3. +5
      23 June 2025 09: 29
      It is difficult to calculate all the consequences. It is quite possible that many countries that do not even think about nuclear weapons would start to develop them hastily. Because it is clear that Iran's nuclear weapons are just a pretext, not a reason, and you can come up with all sorts of pretexts and reasons (test tubes, infringement of penguins' rights, combat mosquitoes and a whole host of them). And as a result, we will get a world where nuclear strikes will already be the norm. Whether the world elites need this or not, time will tell.
    4. +5
      23 June 2025 19: 36
      Popular and simple: would you like to get 30-50 million refugees through Azerbaijan and Armenia to our southern and central regions?
      And the Barmaley lands, uncontrolled by anyone, like the former Syria, are our neighbors, and even attempts to create something like that on our lands?
      The US and London would be more than happy with this, Israel too, but what about us?
      It might be better to help Iran survive and survive than to have ISIS here on such a scale.
      By the way, today's Transcaucasia is what was Iranian land before 1805, which has already caused us a lot of trouble, and which also caused trouble to Tsarist Russia.
      So, let all these Asherbaijanis, Hazaras, Parsis and Balochs live there, in their own place.
      1. +3
        24 June 2025 15: 04
        I'll tell you a secret: with the current level of technological development, it's easy as pie to not let in 50 million people, or even just one person. The main thing is for the government to have the will to do so, and they have a problem with this will: they have the opposite will - they want to populate Russian lands with anyone, but preferably with Islamic brothers, of course.
        So if such a situation develops, revolution and civil war in Russia are inevitable.
  3. + 16
    23 June 2025 04: 21
    I don't understand about football! So who will win, Torch or Maccabi??
    1. + 17
      23 June 2025 04: 25
      As a resident of the Voronezh region, I bet on Fakel, no matter how fantastic this victory may look! drinks
      1. + 10
        23 June 2025 06: 41
        Quote: Leshak
        As a resident of the Voronezh region, I bet on Fakel, no matter how fantastic this victory may look! drinks

        We forget that Israel does not play by the rules. So what prevents Fakel from using hockey goals instead of football goals in a "friendly match"?
        I think the Jews were "delighted" by this. wink
        1. 0
          23 June 2025 16: 00
          Quote: Kote Pan Kokhanka
          Quote: Leshak
          As a resident of the Voronezh region, I bet on Fakel, no matter how fantastic this victory may look! drinks

          We forget that Israel does not play by the rules. So what prevents Fakel from using hockey goals instead of football goals in a "friendly match"?
          I think the Jews were "delighted" by this. wink


          The Jews are great because they have the ability to change the rules technically.
          And to make a game plan phenomenally. And to execute this plan second by second.
          Unlike the rest, the under-players.
          1. +1
            24 June 2025 16: 39
            This Macabe is no longer allowed into Europe because of his completely inadequate and wild fans. And he is not needed in Russia for the same reason.
        2. 0
          24 June 2025 17: 57
          and a goalie the size of a hulk)
  4. 0
    23 June 2025 04: 36
    I wonder, if we went a little bit along an alternative reality, in which, for example, Israel would have supplied us with its residential complex to protect us from drones, would today's article have changed?.....
    1. +9
      23 June 2025 04: 48
      Quote from turembo
      would today's article have changed?

      Everything would change. Curses against Iran would begin and Russians and Jews would be brothers forever. And something like "we improved the housing code and now its efficiency has doubled"
      1. +3
        23 June 2025 07: 23
        1. For example, Israel would have supplied us with its LCD to protect us from drones, would today's article have changed?.....2. Everything would have changed. Curses would have begun against Iran and Russians and Jews would be brothers forever. Israel is a fascist state that has committed and is committing the gravest war crimes against humanity...so don't "dream" so inappropriately!
        1. + 12
          23 June 2025 07: 57
          Quote: Nikolaevich I
          so there is no point in "dreaming" so inadequately

          Come on... Until recently, Iran was a fascist Islamist state led by religious fanatics who sponsored the mujahideen in Afghanistan and then the Chechen fighters.
          And before that there was the hated Maoist regime of Chinese renegades committing provocations on the border of the USSR, training Afghan mujahideen. I remember very well the reports in which they demonstrated Chinese weapons confiscated from the dushmans with curses directed at the PRC.
          So I wouldn't be surprised by a paradigm shift regarding Israel.
          1. -3
            23 June 2025 12: 42
            and then Chechen fighters.

            It seems that Iran was one of the few to condemn the actions of the militants.
            1. +3
              23 June 2025 17: 48
              Quote: a.shlidt
              It seems that Iran was one of the few to condemn the actions of the militants.

              In combat camps in Iran, Chechen fighters are secretly undergoing military training courses, learning sophisticated terrorist techniques that will allow them to more effectively attack the Russian army.
              1. +1
                24 June 2025 09: 07
                This "news" was written by one American newspaper on the eve of the negotiations on Iran in 2005. When Russia took the pro-Iranian side. And it received a wide resonance, but artificially fueled. I would not believe it.
                But Tehran officially, to the whole world, condemned the terrorist attacks in Moscow and Grozny in 2002.
          2. +2
            23 June 2025 22: 13
            Quote: Puncher
            So I wouldn't be surprised by a paradigm shift regarding Israel.

            But I will be surprised. To shake hands with Israel strongly would spoil relations with the Arabs. Considering our aspirations in Africa, especially in the north, this would be a very short-sighted decision...
          3. 0
            24 June 2025 16: 41
            Now even Jews all over the world are expressing support for Iran.
            1. 0
              24 June 2025 21: 07
              Quote: 933454818
              Now even Jews all over the world are expressing support for Iran.

              I have no doubt that something like this is in your mind.
        2. +2
          24 June 2025 18: 28
          Israel is a fascist state

          Are there any non-fascist countries left in the world? You have already devalued the meaning of this term so much that it no longer evokes any emotions.
          1. 0
            24 June 2025 19: 12
            Fascists do not evoke emotions in non-humans...................................................................
            1. +2
              24 June 2025 19: 40
              It seems to me that the fascists also divided people into people and non-people, isn't your statement fascist? I'm not trolling, it's just very stupid to throw labels at everyone who the ruling elite has labeled as enemies. The authorities will back down from their words after a while, and you will be left looking like fools.
    2. -2
      23 June 2025 05: 17
      Quote from turembo
      LCD for protection against drones
      It's like shooting sparrows with cannons. The HC would help against something like HIMARS, but the LBS is too long, you can't cover it all, even if Israel gave up all of its own. Although a couple of systems to protect the Zaporizhzhya NPP wouldn't hurt.
    3. 0
      24 June 2025 21: 13
      Quote from turembo
      would today's article have changed?.....

      I have long written that the tone of articles and, especially, comments absolutely definitely depends on the "party line". And to the point of idiocy, immoderately. fellow
  5. + 10
    23 June 2025 05: 15
    Not an expert in combat lasers.
    But I'll ask an awkward question:
    How will the iron beam interact with smoke screen or confetti?
    1. + 14
      23 June 2025 05: 21
      Quote: Victor Leningradets
      How will the iron beam interact with smoke screen or confetti?
      No way. And with fog too. wink
      1. +8
        23 June 2025 05: 56
        Quote: Dutchman Michel
        No way. And with fog too.

        This is the reason why the work is being carried out in Israel, where there is practically no fog. The climate is dry and hot. There is another problem here. The range of destruction. If you believe in 7 km, then the destruction of a mine may be possible - a low-speed target with a predictable trajectory. And the ballistic warhead will fly this distance in less than a second. And besides, it has protection from long-term aerodynamic heating in megawatts. How is it here? What can a laser add here?
        1. +6
          23 June 2025 06: 17
          Plus - a high-speed ballistic head is moving in some kind of plasma cloud. How will a laser behave here?
      2. +3
        23 June 2025 06: 10
        I don't know about fog. Infrared radiation interacts weakly. But with horses - I'll allow myself to doubt. Even though it's foil, it's a cloud. And that's a mini-target.
        1. +2
          23 June 2025 10: 53
          Airborne Laser. Work is already underway
          It doesn't matter to him where he is based. Just supply energy. laughing
      3. -2
        23 June 2025 10: 46
        Airborne Laser. Work is already underway
        1. -1
          23 June 2025 11: 21
          Long, long ago, work on air-based and combat lasers in general was closed. Unpromising. But the author does not know that.
    2. 0
      23 June 2025 11: 59
      The author writes that this is a fiber laser, which is not strong in the IR (0,7-1,0 µm)...
    3. +1
      23 June 2025 17: 04
      Quote: Victor Leningradets
      Not an expert in combat lasers.
      But I'll ask an awkward question:
      How will the iron beam interact with smoke screen or confetti?

      How will the laser interact with clouds, especially low ones?
    4. +1
      24 June 2025 21: 21
      Quote: Victor Leningradets
      But I'll ask an awkward question:
      How will the iron beam interact with smoke screen or confetti?

      And he still can't peel potatoes! laughing
      Each device has its own purpose and its own area of ​​application!
  6. +7
    23 June 2025 06: 04
    If you believe the Israelis (c), then the Iron Dome has a useful option to detect missiles flying past the protected object, and accordingly, not to open fire on them, thereby saving on the consumption of missiles.
    1. +6
      23 June 2025 06: 46
      The thing is that the calculations are based on the assumption that the ballistic target is not maneuvering. But if it is known that the target is maneuvering, then everything must be shot down
  7. -1
    23 June 2025 06: 06
    The article is very interesting in my opinion and deserves attention. Thanks to the author.
  8. +1
    23 June 2025 06: 08
    Maybe it would be better to compare how many people have died in our country from attacks by drones, khimars and missiles?
  9. +5
    23 June 2025 06: 09
    The obvious... war is extremely expensive and in many cases, it is practically impossible to fully protect yourself.
    No one can completely repel a massive attack.
    Hence the conclusion... but few people are ready to draw reasonable conclusions!
  10. BAI
    +3
    23 June 2025 06: 11
    It's like a football match between Maccabi Tel Aviv and Fakel Voronezh - a show with a completely predictable result in favor of one of the sides.

    Even I got interested here. I haven't heard anything about any of the teams. So who will win?
  11. +2
    23 June 2025 06: 25
    If Iran can smash Israel, I will applaud. Terrorism must be punished. Israel is a terrorist state.
    1. +5
      23 June 2025 12: 45
      Israeli fanatics did not seize anyone at the Olympics. And embassies too. That's right...
      1. +2
        23 June 2025 14: 54
        And who are your fanatics? Orthodox?!
        1. +2
          23 June 2025 15: 48
          Well, if the Jewish Orthodox are not drones, then they are clearly fanatics.
      2. +2
        23 June 2025 23: 24
        Israeli fanatics did not seize anyone at the Olympics. And embassies too. That's right...

        but the pagers were filled with explosives
  12. -2
    23 June 2025 06: 27
    "Well, you can see for yourself what the difference in numbers is."
    Do you have literacy lessons in your editorial office? Numbers are symbols that are used to write numbers.
    The difference is in the numbers, not the figures. Just in case, there are only ten figures.
  13. +3
    23 June 2025 06: 38
    1. The author does not understand the difference between exoatmospheric interceptors and LCs. And he does not want to know.

    2.
    The confrontation between Israel and Iran can only continue as long as both sides retain their missile stockpiles. And here the odds are not in Israel's favor: the fact that Iran has more than half of its missile arsenal hidden under the protection of mountain ranges, according to the Israeli military, greatly complicates the situation, since the IDF's air and missile defense capabilities are gradually declining.
    Gradually decreasing - this is about Iranian ballistic missile salvos. From hundreds on the first day, to tens/less than a dozen in a salvo "on readiness" now.

    3. According to the SUBJECT: there is not one, but two laser systems and one is already in operation: "The Magen Or system is being developed in Israel. Literally translated, it is "Shield of Light", but in English the commercial name Iron Beam is used ("Keren Barzel" - "Iron Beam"). The latter name in Hebrew ("Keren Barzel") was also used in Israel in the initial period of the system's development, for example, here is an article from 2019. The capacity of Magen Or is 100 kW, the promised time frame for its introduction into service is the end of 2025.
    What was used during the war was not the Magen Or, but a simpler system, the Lahav Barzel (Iron Blade), with a capacity of 30 kW. It is based on the same technologies, its main developer is the same (Rafael), but a different laser was used, not from ElOp (part of Elbit Maarahot), but from a foreign supplier. For some reason, the Lahav Barzel was created in several versions, two are visible in the photo and video. The system is specially designed to combat UAVs, made in the form of a towed container, and a self-propelled version is promised in the future. Perhaps the commercial name of the latter will be Lite Beam. There will also be a naval version, the Naval Iron Beam, and it will be a variation of the full-fledged 100 kW Magen Or. Let me remind you of the relevant articles from October and December 2024.
    06.05.25 The IDF announced the revival of the 946th Air Defense Division - the tactical air defense division. This division will operate various systems, including one of its batteries armed with the Lahav Barzel. The division's personnel are mixed, i.e. both men and women. Both regulars and reservists. Lasers will not replace existing systems, but will complement them as a lower level of interception. Before the division was created, a team of air defense reservists was created to operate the system. They were trained and took their first steps in close cooperation with representatives of the Rafael company.
    Work on the Lahav Barzel accelerated dramatically with the start of the War of the Iron Swords, with the first deployments of the systems possibly taking place in the field as early as late 2023. The first interception took place at the end of October 2024. At first, it was reported that 30-40 UAVs had been intercepted, then it was said "more than 35, only Hezbollah". It was also reported that UAVs had been intercepted in other theaters of operations, i.e. at least 1 UAV not related to Hezbollah was shot down. In total, the Air Force (i.e. air defense, fighters, and helicopters) shot down about 1,000 UAVs in all theaters of operations. In addition to UAVs, there were several cases of interception of ATGMs, and possibly artillery missiles."
    https://oleggranovsky.livejournal.com/1530177.html
  14. +3
    23 June 2025 06: 40
    Good day! I don't know how much Israeli anti-missiles cost, but it seems to me Roman sold them too cheaply. The Americans have SM - 3-18 million dollars, SM - 6-6 million, GBI - exactly 100 million.
    1. +4
      23 June 2025 09: 55
      Good day. The Israeli domestic media give the same rates as Roman.
      There are some inaccuracies in the article....
      20 Kipat Barzel anti-missiles are just one installation and not a battery.
  15. +2
    23 June 2025 06: 52
    It may be too early to open the champagne.
    During the so-called Star Wars, the Americans were also going to burn our missiles with lasers from the repulsed ones.
    But one of our academics asked them a question - what will the Americans do if we give the rockets a spin in flight? There was no answer.
    And, by the way, the shells also spin and turn.
    1. -1
      23 June 2025 09: 56
      So it will be cut "in a circle"...:-)
  16. +5
    23 June 2025 08: 02
    According to tests, the Iron Ray destroys targets by irradiating them for 4-5 seconds, which is more than enough to detonate fuel or explosives.


    Keeping a high-speed target for 4-5 seconds is not that easy. Even if the target does not maneuver along the trajectory. What is "enough for detonation" is also questionable. The warhead of missiles is made of a hard and heat-resistant alloy, it will be difficult to burn through the warhead. In addition, it is possible to make the munition rotate around the longitudinal axis in flight, which will make focusing the laser beam almost impossible.
    As for the fuel in the tanks, a multi-stage missile at the final stage of its trajectory may simply no longer have these tanks. Considering the short range of the laser installation, this method of destruction is also problematic.

    Against drones, such laser gadgets can work quite effectively, against high-speed ballistic or hypersonic targets... the grapes are still sour.
    1. +1
      23 June 2025 19: 03
      We are not talking about missiles, but about UAVs and, possibly, about mines, that is, about objects with low speed.
  17. +5
    23 June 2025 08: 55
    Ugh. IMHO, another article that seeks to falsify and confuse. Lots of slogans, confusing meaning.
    1) "The prices here are already astronomical: "Hetz-2" costs 2 million dollars, and "Hetz-3" - 3 million."
    Not expensive at all.
    And? Prices for other missiles flashed here. Caliber - allegedly from 1 million dollars.
    2) Laser air defense - clearly development with inertia and caution for now. New technologies, fine-tuning, testing, comments...
    while standard air defense has both power and proven technologies.
    There's nothing surprising about that.
  18. -3
    23 June 2025 10: 09
    Out of desperation, they try to return to a dead-end direction.
  19. -1
    23 June 2025 11: 02
    They will launch fireproof drones/rockets into a swarm of missiles/drones, which will hold the beam on themselves while their less fireproof counterparts fly towards their targets. And aiming at the laser is a pleasure.
  20. +6
    23 June 2025 11: 13
    The effectiveness of Israel's air defense is 90%. Right now. And Iran is firing everything it can. One in ten gets through. This is very high reliability. Moreover, even launching 100 missiles does not overload - 30 out of 27 are shot down, 100 out of 90. Probably 200-250 will be overloaded, but Iran does not have that many. This is the trick, the Israeli Air Force and Air Defense won the war in a week. And the Iranian Air Force and Air Defense lost.
    P.S. The author of the football assessment slapped on a powerful one. For his information, the RPL is rated the 10th league in the world, and the Jewish one is not in the top 30. So who will win the Maccabi - Fakel match is still a mystery.
    1. +4
      23 June 2025 19: 07
      By the way, Israel shoots down ALL the hyped Iranian UAVs (Shaheds), 100% guarantee.
    2. 0
      24 June 2025 11: 34
      something about the number of "incoming" videos (so far +- SOK) 90% of the efficiency is not visible
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  22. +4
    23 June 2025 12: 04
    A million or two dollars is not expensive if you consider compensation for some burnt, destroyed or damaged real estate or business as an alternative. Look at the prices, an apartment or a small house can cost a couple of million. Probably, a shabby five-story building costs more than a million.
    1. +4
      23 June 2025 19: 08
      And this is not counting the priceless lives of people.
  23. 0
    23 June 2025 13: 23
    Lasers are still fairy tales. The power is too weak to destroy thick pieces of iron. It is necessary to act on the same point for a long time. It won't work when the target is maneuvering. Against cheap drones, without protection, it will do. Well, it is worth remembering about anti-missiles guided by a laser beam. So far, more show-off than action.
    1. +2
      24 June 2025 23: 06
      "Lasers are still just fairy tales"///
      ---
      These "fairy tales" do not know that skeptics do not believe in them. laughing
      They stand on the mountains on the northern border of Israel and calmly shoot down Hezbollah drones.
      The laser beam is invisible and silent - a drone flies, suddenly - oops! - it falls.
      For a long time, Hezbollah could not understand why drones were breaking down in flight.
      1. +1
        26 June 2025 08: 16
        Quote: voyaka uh
        They stand on the mountains on the northern border of Israel and calmly shoot down Hezbollah drones.


        When there are few of them. But what if there are hundreds of drones?
        How many seconds does the laser beam need to be held on the target to be guaranteed to hit it? What are the intervals between "shots"? How many seconds does it take to "pump up" the laser?
        The rate of fire of lasers, alas, is still lower than that of small anti-aircraft missiles. So even against drones it is not a wonder weapon. And against more difficult to hit targets - even more so.
        And this is not the only disadvantage of laser installations.
        Otherwise, lasers would have been widely used in many armies around the world long ago. But for some reason we don't see this yet. Even though the first lasers appeared 70 years ago and the military has long dreamed of adapting them for their needs.
        1. +2
          26 June 2025 09: 07
          "that the first lasers appeared 70 years ago"///
          ---
          Then scientists tried to increase the laser power by increasing the beam power. The beam began to melt the air, plasma appeared - and the efficiency dropped sharply.
          And the physicists "closed the topic."
          A modern laser sends hundreds of low-power beams to a target, which a computer brings together into a 1 cm diameter "patch" on the target.
          This flexible system allows operation in dusty or foggy conditions. The frequency is adjusted to the environmental conditions.
          "What if there are hundreds of drones?" - Israelis are practical, time is of the essence: "Let's deal with dozens. When there are hundreds, we'll think further." Yes
          1. +1
            26 June 2025 13: 53
            Quote: voyaka uh

            A modern laser sends hundreds of low-power beams to a target, which a computer brings together into a 1 cm diameter "patch" on the target.
            This flexible system allows you to work in dusty or foggy conditions.


            Such a "flexible system" will be highly vulnerable to electronic warfare and counter-measures, to hacker attacks. Since it is so dependent on computer equipment, hacking of software or a sufficiently powerful EMP will turn such an installation into useless junk.
            1. +1
              26 June 2025 14: 03
              You have a poor understanding of the level of protection of military electronics.
              That's why it costs millions of dollars, unlike the penny-worth civilian one, because it's extremely difficult to damage.
              1. +1
                27 June 2025 07: 59
                Quote: voyaka uh
                You have a poor understanding of the level of protection of military electronics.
                That's why it costs millions of dollars, unlike the penny-worth civilian one, because it's extremely difficult to damage.


                There is no such thing as perfect protection. Everything can be hacked and bypassed. If it were otherwise, electronic warfare would not be developing so actively, and hackers in uniform are now in any real army.

                Military electronics are expensive due to their small production runs and adaptation to work in extreme conditions (temperature and humidity changes, vibration, etc.).
                Well, the monopoly of suppliers also plays a role. After all, there is no free competition in the market for such goods and it is unlikely that there ever was.
  24. +2
    23 June 2025 13: 35
    The laser hasn't appeared yet, but it seems to me that the idea is already too late. Of course, it can be used against UAVs, against a raid of 100 UAVs?
  25. +1
    23 June 2025 14: 19
    like a football match between Maccabi Tel Aviv and Fakel Voronezh - a show with a completely predictable result in favor of one of the sides.
    Macabi TA seems to be the Premier League champion and not for the first time.
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  27. -1
    23 June 2025 17: 39
    Fattah-1,2 hypersonic missiles are no longer able to be consistently intercepted by the IDF. And then, the amount of destruction in the promised land only grows. A strike on Demon (a place where TNW are produced and stored) will only create another Chernobyl, which no one needs, but if Iran is backed into a corner, it can be obtained.
  28. Lad
    +2
    23 June 2025 21: 43
    Not good for Israel

    It's good that at least for Iran everything is for the best. There is no destruction, no extermination of dignitaries, and they didn't throw away a lot of money on various missiles...
  29. -3
    24 June 2025 00: 40
    It started to rain... The iron beam didn't hit anything.
  30. 0
    24 June 2025 07: 59
    Quote: vadim dok
    We are not talking about missiles, but about UAVs and, possibly, about mines, that is, about objects with low speed.


    But is there no way to read the article more carefully?

    Quote from the subject:
    "The system is quite interesting, it uses a 100 kW fiber laser beam as a destructive factor and is designed to destroy artillery shells, artillery mines and short-range missiles."

    Missiles (even short-range ones) and artillery shells are high-speed targets.
  31. 0
    24 June 2025 13: 04
    What about mirror coated shells/rockets?
  32. -1
    24 June 2025 19: 56
    As for breaking through the air defense, what is more important is not the perfection of the missiles, but their mass production. And the accuracy of their hits. Even slow missiles in sufficient quantities will overload any air defense. As for the iron dome, knowing how it works, I knew ten years ago how to bypass it.
  33. +1
    24 June 2025 21: 49
    The Iron Dome was developed to intercept precisely those handicrafts that were flying from Hamas and Hezbollah. There is no need to analyze its effectiveness against high-tech products, it was not created for that. No missile defense system will provide 100% effectiveness, whoever says such a thing is a storyteller. Colleague Nagant quite correctly quoted the famous phrase about the best air defense and missile defense. This is exactly what Israel did in the past conflict, practicing against enemy aircraft and launchers
  34. -1
    26 June 2025 11: 39
    I remember how in 2015 everyone was justifying how we needed Syria. Now, for some reason, Iran and Syria are not needed.
  35. 0
    26 June 2025 23: 21
    But if you look closely, the Iron Dome is a whole defense complex.
    - What, is there a non-integral complex? laughing laughing
  36. -1
    28 June 2025 07: 38
    The current Kumpol works... if the vile aggressor fires about ten missiles. And brings a pair of aircraft into battle. More - and Kumpol will irreversibly crumble. The billions poured into it were pulled out of the pockets of the world Jewish diaspora in vain.
    That's why the Western community got excited about lasers. Which don't need missiles for a couple of million dollars apiece. And even cheaper ones are still 200-300 thousand dollars, you can't get enough for every sneeze...
    Let them build it. We're not the ones who're going to pour billions into it, are we? Let them show their class...
  37. 0
    28 June 2025 17: 48
    Comparison with "Fakel" is not correct. Fakel does not promote itself, it plays as best it can. And what about Maccabi? A poor, miserable club. But they exist. Good luck. And a dome on your neck
  38. -1
    5 July 2025 21: 23
    I will say this about the Iron Dome - it was created as a response to a bunch of garage-made missiles whose speed is far below even Mach 1. And the first problem turned out to be very tough. Interception is more expensive than launching a threat. But they were able to solve this somehow by selecting targets. But for DIFFERENT targets, different missiles and different interception tactics are needed. Supersonic, and any supersonic, has already turned out to be beyond the capabilities of the Iron Dome. And hypersonic even more so. I do not understand the Israeli administration, because they knew that they would not be flying homemade rockets and knew that the Iron Dome, like the Patriot and THAAD, are not capable of intercepting this effectively enough. I want to remind you that the Patriot did not cope well even with the interception of old, few Scuds from Iraq.
    And the main problem with the iron dome is its high cost and the permanent lack of guarantees.
    The fact that the air defense was able to do relatively much is primarily due to the fact that Israel created a situation where it was prepared for well-predictable actions by Iran. And huge forces were concentrated, which simply cannot be constantly mobilized. The dome does not deserve credit here. Therefore, although the system significantly improves protection, it will remain insufficiently reliable and insufficiently cost-effective.
    1. 0
      30 July 2025 12: 42
      The post is Jewishly clever and I could hardly suppress my sympathy for the Jews. They are sending weapons to Ukraine to kill our children and grandchildren. The worse it is for Israel, the better it is for us!
  39. 0
    30 July 2025 10: 39
    I don't believe in the prospects of laser missile defense. As for me, they will be effective only as a means of target illumination to reduce the complexity and cost of the seeker.
  40. 0
    7 August 2025 06: 26
    What is the main problem of any SAM? In calculating the optimal point of meeting of the missile and the anti-missile based on radar data

    At present, the main problem with the SAM system is that a hundred geraniums are flying at you, and you have only a little in your ammunition... And each of your missiles costs as much as all these geraniums put together.
  41. 0
    29 August 2025 18: 35
    what are you all for israel, roots? if necessary, all your slingshots of david will penetrate our missiles...that's how it is...and that's a fact
  42. 0
    8 September 2025 13: 54
    Voronezh "Fakel" won...