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For what Chernomyrdin loves the West, of course. But why should we praise him?

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Nevertheless, the media make his anniversary almost a national holiday.


9 April, turned 75 years since the birth of Viktor Chernomyrdin, who did not live up to his jubilee just under two and a half years. And, it is not clear by whom the established tradition, most of the media today commemorate the former second person in the state with an extremely kind word. Big, you see, there was a man who left a deep impression in stories modern Russia. And so many of the popular expressions gave us all - a real “Chrysostom”!

Recall at least his "We wanted the best, but it turned out as always." Or: “We will live with you like this, that our children and grandchildren will envy us!” Or: “No one bothers us to over-fulfill our laws.” And finally: "And do not:" Chernomyrdin, Chernomyrdin se. " Chernomyrdin never and nowhere, but always and everywhere ... And all. And when it was necessary, five years without change, by the way, and not like those. ”

No doubt, the trace Viktor Chernomyrdin left in our history is really deep. So deep that many of our fellow citizens, walking along the trail of their footprints, have completely disappeared.

Yes, and to call Viktor Stepanovich's “jokes” “kind” the language somehow does not turn, if we recall for what reason they were released. After all, the same famous phrase “We wanted the best, but it turned out as always” was uttered by our then-prime minister on the heels of the “1993” monetary “reform” of the year, which could not be called anything other than robbery of the population.

Recall that the 24 of July of that year, the Central Bank announced the suspension of circulation of the 26-1961 sample notes from 1992 in July. Yes, in just one day, before July 27, this old money could still be exchanged for new rubles, which rose in price just 1000 times.

But what was the exchange limit? Total 35 000 is non-denominated rubles, while approximately 35 dollars!

The ensuing panic even then forced the authorities to increase this limit to 100 000 rubles, but even this “gift” did not change the predatory nature of the “reform”. And our “Zlatoust” releases its famous phrase “We wanted the best, but it turned out as always.” Those who then took away all the savings accumulated during the years of Soviet power, the prime minister (that is, the second person in the state) offers to laugh ...

Further activities of Viktor Stepanovich as prime minister proceeded, in principle, in the same way: the country rapidly degraded, the people were impoverished, and the prime minister was “joking”. And in the 1998 year, when sharply reduced revenues to the budget due to falling oil prices brought Russia to bankruptcy, Yeltsin withdrew Chernomyrdin. But even after the resignation, the higher authorities still more than once called upon our “hero” to help themselves - mainly, by the way, on the foreign policy “front”.

Chernomyrdin- "diplomat"

Victor Stepanovich, it is worth recalling, even during his premiership, he played a very prominent role in the foreign policy of then Russia. Recall that for many years it was the “Gore-Chernomyrdin Commission”, so named after the second persons in the United States and the Russian Federation - Vice President Al Gore and our Prime Minister, who determined the level and direction of relations between Russia and America. The US Vice President and the Russian Prime Minister met regularly - twice a year. And the outcome of the meetings were agreements that, as a rule, were not publicly made public.

That was how the secret agreement between the US and the Russian Federation was born in 1995 about suspending the supply of new Russian weapons Iran Since the end of 1980, Iran had intended to re-equip its army, armed mainly with old American weapons, which had been inherited from the Shah regime, through the procurement of products of the Russian military-industrial complex. The Americans, who put Iran on the rogue list, clearly did not like this prospect, and Gore convinced Chernomyrdin to fulfill only the old contracts for the supply of Russian weapons to Iran, and not to sign new contracts with Tehran. In exchange, the US Vice President promised Chernomyrdin, that America would open the door to the world of high technology for Russia.

And what was the outcome of this secret agreement? The Russian Federation, under the sensitive guidance of Viktor Stepanovich, fulfilled its obligations: Iran was left without modern Russian weapons. Although the Iranian orders would be very useful for the Russian military industrial complex who was dying (also under the strict guidance of our prime minister) in those years. But the Americans were leading, leading Russia by the nose - and they never let in the high-tech world.

Approximately the same can be said about the other major transactions achieved within the framework of the “Gore-Chernomyrdin Commission”: they were almost entirely one-sided concessions of Russia to the Americans. But Viktor Stepanovich acquired “diplomatic” experience in the “Gore-Chernomyrdin Commission”, which was useful to him after his resignation from the post of prime minister. At the turn of 1999-2000, this experience was useful to him in Yugoslavia, where Yeltsin sent him as his special representative.

Here is how the head of the Center for the Study of the Modern Balkan Crisis of the Institute of Slavonic Studies of the Russian Academy of Sciences Elena Guskova describes the results of this “diplomatic” work of Chernomyrdin on the pages of “Century.ru”, which analyzes the book of Viktor Chernomyrdin’s memoirs in 2004:

“How did V.S. Chernomyrdin became a "special representative" on the Yugoslav settlement? I remember everyone was extremely surprised by this appointment, although it was clear to everyone who knew the history of the crisis that B.N. Yeltsin could not come to this idea on his own. Vs Chernomyrdin confirms that with the request to appoint him B.N. Yeltsin specifically called B. Clinton. The Americans, he writes, needed Russia's mediation, and "Bill Clinton personally went to Boris Nikolayevich Yeltsin with such a request." Only the “mediation” turned out to be peculiar: the Serbs were forced by the hands of the Russian representative to capitulate on humiliating American conditions. So it will remain in history.

Vs Chernomyrdin lists the principles that, as the president punished him, he had to adhere to in the negotiation process: condemn aggression, comply with the UN Charter and international law, seek the territorial integrity of Yugoslavia, broad autonomy for Kosovo. All right But there was another very important order, about which the author of the book for some reason kept silent: B.N. Yeltsin insisted that, in negotiations with the Americans, he should first bring about the suspension of the bombing and then present the conditions of peace to the Serbs.

In describing the position of the United States V.S. Chernomyrdin often uses the expression “such a question was unacceptable for Russia”. This applies to the continuation of the bombing, and to the role of the UN, and to the NATO command of peacekeepers in Kosovo. However, in less than a month and a half of the activity of the “special representative”, everything that was unacceptable for Russia was accepted by her, and the initial positions of the Russian side were completely surrendered.

When meeting with S. Milosevic at the very beginning of the negotiations, V.S. Chernomyrdin agreed on a completely acceptable approach, containing a significant concession on the part of Yugoslavia, but taking into account its interests. A reduction (not a complete withdrawal) of the Armed Forces of the FRY in the province and an international presence in Kosovo under the auspices of the UN (and not NATO) with the participation of Russia were supposed. And from each of these principles, VS Chernomyrdin then gradually retreated. So, back in April, the first Russian demand was the cessation of the bombing and only then - the negotiations. But 1 Jun V.S. Chernomyrdin spoke in Bonn about "that the cessation of hostilities and the withdrawal of the JNA troops take place simultaneously." Now, however, the Americans did not agree with this anymore. The result we know: 3 June 1999, the Milosevic, the government and the parliament of Yugoslavia signed an ultimatum, and the NATO bombings were stopped only on June 20.

It happened with other key issues - the composition of the international forces in Kosovo and the location of the Russian troops. The principles of the settlement, agreed at the G-8 meeting in Bonn on May 6, indicate that by this time the Americans had managed to incline everyone to their position. The final document of the G8 did not mention the cessation of air strikes against Yugoslavia, but there appeared a demand for “controlled cessation of violence and repression in Kosovo”, addressed explicitly to S. Milosevic, and not to NATO. Included in the document is the thesis of the “indivisibility of the FRY”, about which V.S. Chernomyrdin narrates with pride, from the very beginning was vicious: it was necessary to speak about the indivisibility of Serbia, which includes the province of Kosovo and Metohia as an autonomous entity. Otherwise, the collapse of Yugoslavia (which later happened) made Kosovo’s status uncertain. From here to the political independence of Kosovo is one step.

After that, Russia's position was reduced mainly to the fact that the Bonn agreements had to be implemented, although the latter did not leave room for maneuver for the Troika Chernomyrdin-Ahtisaari-Talbott. By June, the position of V.S. Chernomyrdin approached the US, although the special envoy of the Russian president understood that “the Yugoslavs were actually forced to capitulate” (p. 158).

30 May V.S. Chernomyrdin reported B.N. Yeltsin on the results of the negotiations in Belgrade. The main task at that time, he writes, was to “get the special status of the Russian contingent of peacekeepers from the United States and NATO, which would be a success and recognition of our role” (p. 200). B.N. Yeltsin intended to personally control this issue - and it took only a few days for VS Chernomyrdin, not to follow the instructions of the president.

To understand how the process of “surrender” of the Russian positions took place, it is important to consider, in addition to the G-8 document, the June 1-3 negotiations. These were very dramatic days. Unfortunately, V.S. Chernomyrdin almost does not reproduce the negotiation process. From the text of the book, we learn that it was not possible to agree on the termination of the bombing. They agreed that the “verifiable withdrawal of Serbian troops from Kosovo” would begin first, and only then the bombings would stop. NATO members have their way. In Bonn, writes V.S. Chernomyrdin, the message that "NATO strategists had already planned the deployment of their military contingents, and in such a way that there was no Russian place, except to stay among the battle formations," acted on him "like a head on the head" (p. 209). It would be extremely important to find out in detail about the dramatic situation prevailing in the negotiations in Germany, but there is very little information about this in the book. Even about disagreements with the military - almost nothing.

Meanwhile, General Leonid Ivashov recalls that "Chernomyrdin did not resist on most of the positions." But the Russian military managed to agree with the Americans on major issues, including the provision of a separate sector to the Russian contingent in Kosovo. It was Chernomyrdin who canceled these agreements and solemnly declared that the Russian delegation agreed with the document submitted by the Americans. In the memoirs of Strobe Talbott there is an episode of the quarrel between Chernomyrdin and our military, followed by his sudden concession to the Americans: "Without any warning or explanation, Chernomyrdin agreed to the complete withdrawal of the (Yugoslav) troops." Not a trace is left of the main role of Russia in the negotiations. The adoption of the American document crossed out everything that was done by the Russian side earlier. It remained to convince Belgrade.

The servicemen who participated in the negotiations hoped afterwards to return to Moscow and report to the president that all the positions of Russia had been surrendered, but V.S. Chernomyrdin decided to immediately fly to Belgrade. His last meeting with S. Milosevic was described sparingly, although there is evidence that she was dramatic. Milosevic understood very well that an ultimatum was dictated to him. S. Talbott in his book gives an assessment, which on his return from Belgrade gave V.S. Chernomyrdin M. Ahtisaari: “Our friend Victor was absolutely amazing. He did everything he promised, without subterfuels and complaints. The Serbs clearly expected that he would offer them a loophole, but he did not give it to them. ”

Our Viktor Chernomyrdin turned out to be such a “diplomat”. Nevertheless, for his "merit" he was later sent to head the Russian embassy in Kiev. What came out of this is vividly demonstrated by all the subsequent “gas wars” between Ukraine and Russia, and the outspoken theft of Russian gas by Kiev, and the victory of the Orange Revolution in Ukraine in 2004, and much, much more. Thank God, after the resignation from the post of the Russian ambassador to Ukraine, our authorities almost did not use the services of Chernomyrdin.
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  1. Fox
    Fox April 12 2013 06: 26
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    I read it, and how I plunged into the slop ... it's disgusting to remember the "merits" of the traitors to the country, to whom the current government puts monuments. I remember my feelings of complete hopelessness of that period ... disgusting.
    1. Garrin
      Garrin April 12 2013 06: 46
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      Quote: Fox
      I read it, and how I plunged into the slop ... it's disgusting to remember the "merits" of the traitors to the country, to whom the current government puts monuments. I remember my feelings of complete hopelessness of that period ... disgusting.

      I completely agree. For such "merits" it was necessary to send to the felling. And this is the mildest punishment.
    2. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov April 12 2013 06: 52
      24
      I remember Chernomyrdin when he and Basayev popped on the phone, when he took hostages in the hospital. There’s nothing more to say about him!
      1. donchepano
        donchepano April 12 2013 07: 14
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        Quote: Alexander Romanov

        I remember Chernomyrdin when he and Basayev popped on the phone, when he took hostages in the hospital. There’s nothing more to say about him!

        We greet you.
        FAC (Chernomordin) - Agent of influence. Traitor
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov April 12 2013 07: 22
          12
          Quote: donchepano

          We greet you.

          Mutually hi
          Quote: donchepano
          Agent of influence. Traitor

          Two of a Kind negative
          1. Yarbay
            Yarbay April 12 2013 07: 49
            15
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Two of a Kind

            When he spoke with Basayev on the phone, from that day on, I do not respect!
            He didn’t even feel how the master laughed at him all over the country !!
          2. igor67
            igor67 April 12 2013 09: 28
            +8
            Hello everybody! I still have two thousand Soviet rubles on the book, as in a museum laughing thank him red
            1. Yarbay
              Yarbay April 12 2013 11: 10
              +3
              Quote: igor67
              Hello everybody! I still have two thousand Soviet rubles on the book, as in a museum

              Hi Igor!
              we already issue money on these deposits, if you have citizenship))))
              1. igor67
                igor67 April 12 2013 12: 25
                +2
                Quote: Yarbay
                Quote: igor67
                Hello everybody! I still have two thousand Soviet rubles on the book, as in a museum

                Hi Igor!
                we already issue money on these deposits, if you have citizenship))))

                Hi laughing then it is necessary to accept the citizenship of Azerbaijan, and in what proportion do they give? recourse
                1. Yarbay
                  Yarbay April 12 2013 13: 15
                  +2
                  Quote: igor67
                  Hi, it means you have to accept the citizenship of Azerbaijan, but in what proportion do you give?

                  according to my calculations, you would get somewhere between 400-500 euros !!
                  there is too much turbidity for my weak brain)))
                  I give the link I think you’ll be quicker than me))

                  http://onlinebaku.com/news/economics_news/59055-full.html
                  http://interfax.az/view/539814
                  1. igor67
                    igor67 April 12 2013 15: 11
                    +2
                    Quote: Yarbay
                    Quote: igor67
                    Hi, it means you have to accept the citizenship of Azerbaijan, but in what proportion do you give?

                    according to my calculations, you would get somewhere between 400-500 euros !!
                    there is too much turbidity for my weak brain)))
                    I give the link I think you’ll be quicker than me))

                    http://onlinebaku.com/news/economics_news/59055-full.html
                    http://interfax.az/view/539814

                    Unprofitable pancake recourse
                    1. Yarbay
                      Yarbay April 12 2013 17: 21
                      +3
                      Quote: igor67
                      Unprofitable pancake

                      But better than nothing))))))
                      life does not stand still))
                    2. Alexander Romanov
                      Alexander Romanov April 12 2013 17: 28
                      +2
                      Quote: igor67
                      igor67

                      Figaseee, he sits at work, with Alibek here on the site he sharpenes the lasses. You know how boring he is laughing
                      1. Yarbay
                        Yarbay April 12 2013 17: 39
                        +3
                        Quote: Alexander Romanov
                        Figaseee, he sits at work, with Alibek here on the site he sharpenes the lasses. You know how boring he is

                        an hour later home))) you have to make your face meaner so that everyone at home tiptoes)))))
                        Dad came home from work))
                      2. Alexander Romanov
                        Alexander Romanov April 12 2013 17: 47
                        +2
                        Quote: Yarbay
                        )) you have to make your face meaner so that everyone at home tiptoes)))))
                        Dad came home from work))

                        Alibek. He will not succeed, he took a canister (5 liters) of pure medical alcohol from work and took him home. IIIiiiiii such a person is kind. Kind laughing
                      3. Yarbay
                        Yarbay April 12 2013 17: 51
                        +3
                        Quote: Alexander Romanov

                        Alibek. He will not succeed, he took a canister (5 liters) of pure medical alcohol from work and took him home. IIIiiiiii such a person is kind. Kind

                        for this, too, talent is needed))))
                        I wrote more to myself)))
                    3. Ruslan67
                      Ruslan67 April 12 2013 18: 39
                      +3
                      Quote: Yarbay
                      so that everyone tiptoed at home)))))
                      Dad came home from work))

                      Alibek hi And how does your wife meet you when she poboku where is your skullcap? wassat
                    4. Yarbay
                      Yarbay April 12 2013 20: 51
                      +3
                      Quote: Ruslan67
                      And how does your wife meet you when she poboku where is your skullcap?

                      I would better keep silent))))
                      but it’s not solid, it’s not Caucasian way)))))))))
                    5. Ruslan67
                      Ruslan67 April 12 2013 20: 55
                      +3
                      Quote: Yarbay
                      but it’s not solid, it’s not Caucasian way)))

                      Well, clear. You're the owner of the house. am Wherever you want there and lie wassat
                    6. Yarbay
                      Yarbay April 12 2013 20: 58
                      +3
                      Quote: Ruslan67
                      Well, clearly. -You are the owner of the house. Wherever you want there and lie.

                      But you want in your bed)))))))
                      Deserved))))
                    7. Ruslan67
                      Ruslan67 April 12 2013 21: 03
                      +3
                      Quote: Yarbay
                      Deserved))))

                      Tell your wife repeat
                    8. Yarbay
                      Yarbay April 12 2013 21: 05
                      +2
                      Quote: Ruslan67
                      Tell your wife

                      You can’t say anything, NEVER))))))))
                      Only a strict and tired look)))) and say less, then each word can then be used against)))
                    9. Ruslan67
                      Ruslan67 April 12 2013 21: 08
                      +3
                      Quote: Yarbay
                      each word can then be used against)))

                      No, well, you can’t do that. request Even before the Caucasus, liberalism has sunk into his soul negative And now where the real man go what laughing
                    10. Yarbay
                      Yarbay April 12 2013 21: 33
                      +3
                      Quote: Ruslan67
                      No, well, it’s impossible. Already even to the Caucasus, liberalism has sunk into his soul. And now where can a real man go

                      That's why I am convinced that a man officially, as befits a Muslim, should have 4 wives))))
                      Then all issues are resolved !!))
                      There is a tacit competition who will please Dad more)))))) and there is always a lot to proudly go, even bite your elbows)))
                    11. Ruslan67
                      Ruslan67 April 12 2013 21: 43
                      +4
                      Quote: Yarbay
                      there is always much to proudly go, let bite your elbows)))

                      Well not only elbows repeat and not only bite laughing But if 4 unite against one what Then you’ll start to bite the skullcap if it’s what wassat
  • klimpopov
    klimpopov April 12 2013 12: 20
    +3
    I have 1000 Soviet rubles. But they will never be given to us ...
    1. Yarbay
      Yarbay April 12 2013 12: 28
      +3
      Quote: klimpopov
      I have 1000 Soviet rubles. But they will never be given to us ...

      We pay on deposits made before 91 years old !!
      But in a tricky way!
      I remember counting how much they will give for my 600 rubles, I thought that I should not bother)))
  • Reasonable, 2,3
    Reasonable, 2,3 April 12 2013 23: 55
    0
    Well do not, huh ?.
  • slav4ikus
    slav4ikus April 12 2013 11: 05
    +1
    two specific eccentrics in the letter Mu both had to be shot
  • Vadivak
    Vadivak April 12 2013 09: 05
    +5
    Quote: donchepano
    FAC (Chernomordin) - Agent of influence. Traitor


    Moreover, he is also tongue-tied, read his statements and consider this not a joke

    Yes, and I’m out in my prime minister’s saddle - only the wind in my ears.
    Yes, my specialty and life passed in an atmosphere of oil and gas.
    The deputies all spoke out so that I would go. He was elected more precisely.
    When my country is in this state - I will do everything, I will say everything! When I know that this will help, I will not keep behind!
    Has the ruble collapsed with me? What are you guys? When did you do it all? They did it, then someone is something here, now I have fallen off the ruble too!
    I also carry a heavy load. And my voice also sat down. But I didn’t even drink yesterday. And he did nothing else. I would love to do it
    The government is not the body where, as they say, it is possible only in language ...
    1. Yarbay
      Yarbay April 12 2013 09: 18
      +5
      Quote: Vadivak
      Moreover, he is also tongue-tied

      it seems to me incongruous, and problems with blood circulation in the brain !!
      He did not keep up with his thoughts, slowed down, forgot the beginning of the phrase, could not fit the right word !!
      1. Leisure
        Leisure April 12 2013 12: 47
        +3
        I was looking for a replacement obscene expressions, with a weak vocabulary.
      2. Ruslan67
        Ruslan67 April 12 2013 18: 43
        +3
        Quote: Yarbay
        it seems to me incongruous, and problems with blood circulation in the brain !!
        He did not keep up with his thoughts, slowed down, forgot the beginning of the phrase, could not fit the right word !!

        Alibek! your division bully Here, some comrades had to explain that they didn’t have to dance on Thatcher’s bones, now they don’t do such things. So, Viktor Stepanovich from the same cohort, is in many ways wrong, but who is better from the current ones? request
        1. Yarbay
          Yarbay April 12 2013 20: 54
          +4
          Quote: Ruslan67
          Here, some comrades had to explain that they didn’t have to dance on Thatcher’s bones, now they don’t do such things. So, Viktor Stepanovich from the same cohort, is in many ways wrong, but who is better from the current ones?

          I agree, I just remembered!
          You see, it always amazes me both in my country and throughout the CIS when illiterate two words to connect inept people fly up to the skies in a quarry, and clever, literate people are forced to write essays to students for money!
          I understand that all the will of God, but ....
          1. Ruslan67
            Ruslan67 April 12 2013 20: 59
            +4
            Quote: Yarbay
            when illiterate two words to connect unskilled people take off in a quarry to heaven, and clever, literate people are forced to write essays to students for money!

            Alibek is now serious - people with dyslexia dyslexia are sometimes much smarter and more talented than those who have innate literacy backed up by well-read request
            1. Yarbay
              Yarbay April 12 2013 21: 08
              +3
              Quote: Ruslan67
              this is serious now - people with dysgraphic dyslexia are sometimes much smarter and more talented than those who have innate literacy backed up by well-read

              Know koment !!
          2. ImPerts
            ImPerts April 12 2013 21: 04
            +2
            Anything can happen:
            Two brothers lived in Western Ukraine - Taras and Gritsko. Soviet power came. Taras went to the collective farm, got on a tractor, and Gritsko was still at his farm. The Germans came - Taras to the partisans, and Gritsko to the police. Soviet power returned. Taras left the forest, and again to the collective farm, to the tractor. Well, Gritsko - to Siberia, to logging. However, time is running fast, Gritsko returned home. He didn’t start living in the village, they didn’t forgive him for his police removal there. He settled in a district center, a mechanic at MTS.
            You look - and he is already the foreman, then the shift supervisor, and so he grew up to the chairman of the regional agricultural machinery. And his brother, Taras, is all on a collective farm, on a tractor. Once he arrived in the area, went to his brother, sat down, drank vodka.
            - I do not understand, Gritsko. I honestly plow my whole life, and all is a simple tractor driver.
            And here you are, a traitor, served in the camp, and became a big boss?
            - And everything is correct. I have a partisan hero brother in my profile. And who do you - a policeman!
  • SASCHAmIXEEW
    SASCHAmIXEEW April 12 2013 09: 12
    +4
    Exactly! And the same six State Department traitors are in the government, there are dosionists like Mendel Dvarkovich Chubais and others. As long as this kagal is not imprisoned, good luck and happiness cannot be seen !!!
  • smel
    smel April 12 2013 08: 15
    +6
    I remember Chernomyrdin when he and Basayev popped on the phone
    That's it. I just wanted to remember his betrayal in the first Chechen one. Framed the army in full. For this it’s not a good word to remember, and judge regardless of ranks and titles (he didn’t say merit, because he doesn’t have them)
  • Reasonable, 2,3
    Reasonable, 2,3 April 12 2013 08: 00
    +1
    Yes, I personally would .........., and as a lawyer, I would have substantiated. Not all the history of Beringov is known. 1989. Together with Shevardnadze. Even hump was not in the course, cheated.
    1. Reasonable, 2,3
      Reasonable, 2,3 April 12 2013 23: 53
      0
      ADMINISTS, TAKE MEASURES SOME ME, UVAS CONTROLS.
      1. Reasonable, 2,3
        Reasonable, 2,3 April 13 2013 08: 26
        0
        Thanks. OK.
  • DERWISH
    DERWISH April 12 2013 08: 35
    +3
    one conversation with Basayev was worth it! and he didn’t care for the simple killed people and the grief of those killed by this bastard! Chernomyrdin did nothing good and useful for the people only for himself and his relatives
  • Belogor
    Belogor April 12 2013 06: 37
    +3
    A lot of people were hanging out in Yeltsin’s team, but practically they were no different from each other,
    there were few real experts in their field, mainly conjuncturers and other dark personalities.
    And Chernomyrdin from among them, he clearly did not pull on the prime minister, his ceiling was no more than a ministerial post. And he lasted a long time because the compromiser. Yes, and he was an ambassador so-so.
  • Sirocco
    Sirocco April 12 2013 06: 41
    +8
    Perhaps for past merits, he was exiled as ambassador to Ukraine. It’s hard to regard this as an increase. And his winged expression is now for centuries, this does not take away from him laughing Well, about the Balkans, this is a shame for Russia, as well as recent events in Libya. Although who knows what was happening there, and why our sovereigns did this. what Here in the Yugoslav conflict, it would be worth mentioning the MIRA pigeons, which rushed to bow to the United States, these are Nemtsov, Khakamada, I don’t remember who was the third.
  • pinecone
    pinecone April 12 2013 06: 58
    +3
    Typo. In fact, Chernomordik was removed from the post of prime minister in April 1998, replacing him with Kirienka, who, together with finance minister Livshits, brought the country to default in August of that year.
  • ekebastus
    ekebastus April 12 2013 06: 58
    +1
    Something the author of the date is confusing ..., "And in 2008, when sharply reduced budget revenues due to the fall in oil prices brought Russia to bankruptcy, Yeltsin removed Chernomyrdin ...." !!!!
  • Horn
    Horn April 12 2013 07: 08
    +5
    And we honor all the traitors ... We are trying to smear collectors and organizers with shit, we are creating entire commissions for this, we are feeding all kinds of Svinidze with kagal ... And this one, he honestly stole, one worth of plutonium (Gor-Chernomyrdin)!
  • Denis
    Denis April 12 2013 07: 22
    +4
    But the Russian military managed to agree with the Americans on basic issues, including the provision of a separate sector to the Russian contingent in Kosovo. It was Chernomyrdin who canceled these agreements and solemnly declared that the Russian delegation agreed with the document submitted by the Americans.
    This is far from the only betrayal. Budenovsk, that they couldn’t crash buses from the sky when deputies and journalists left? And before they left, the world would have lost a little
    This ... (peep) ... the outcome of the operation was not important, he wanted to light up his peacemaking face
  • pinecone
    pinecone April 12 2013 07: 23
    +7
    The current prime minister also loves the West.
  • marsel1524
    marsel1524 April 12 2013 07: 35
    +8
    I taught in the distant nineties, in a village about 30 kilometers from the village of Black Otrog, the native land of this leader. Well, according to the news, they told me that he would pass through our village to his so-called historic homeland. And the road from the village is about 5 kilometers and the places are flat, far away means to see. With the guys went to look, they didn’t let him go to the road, the cordon wrapped up, a hill stood on the side, climbed on it, only the soldiers settled down again, they say it wasn’t supposed to, but then the children took pity all the same. So the picture is this 2 hours before the motorcade travels a convoy of 15 irrigation machines so that our figure does not suffocate in dust, and where did they get it? the Kuvandyk-Saraktash highway was watered like a gravel road, then a motorcade, 100 cars are probably a sight to see. Here is such a meeting with Chernomyrdin ... The village is called Sunarchi, Saraktash district of the Orenburg region. In the homeland of the hero of the article was, I saw a bust :)
  • NIK 163
    NIK 163 April 12 2013 08: 35
    +4
    All the Khrushchevs, Gorbachevs, Yeltsins and other henchmen should be called by their proper names, traitors to the Motherland. And they have nothing to sing diphys. Rams. Simple people suffered from their activities. They are, they’re happy, that our people are patient.
  • SCS
    SCS April 12 2013 08: 44
    +3
    and he burn in hell together ebn ...!
    , and how languages ​​turn to speak of him "with an exceptionally kind word"! loyal (mongrel) dogs of the west, that's who they are ...
    harsh, but not enough)))
    1. SASCHAmIXEEW
      SASCHAmIXEEW April 12 2013 09: 20
      +5
      Do not offend dogs! They during WWII saved our lives to many of our soldiers !!! So they need to erect monuments, and not these ghouls!
      1. SCS
        SCS April 12 2013 09: 57
        0
        Quote: SASCHAmIXEEW
        Do not offend dogs! They during WWII saved our lives to many of our soldiers !!! So they need to erect monuments, and not these ghouls!

        I agree with you!
  • valokordin
    valokordin April 12 2013 08: 56
    +1
    About the deceased, either good or nothing, but one wants to say nothing good, this is one of the living robbers of socialist property. Hollow permafrost.
  • Uhalus
    Uhalus April 12 2013 08: 57
    +1
    In a word, a scoundrel and a prostitute, as one of our rulers put it.
    Bad memories ...
  • Vorchun
    Vorchun April 12 2013 09: 14
    0
    Hamlo and the grabber was still under the leadership of the gas plant, and only then turned around. Tell me who you glorify and I will tell you who you are.
  • Averias
    Averias April 12 2013 09: 17
    +1
    For the fact that he sold uranium for "three" kopecks - one can safely call a traitor. But no, "HERO", because of such heroes, our country is just now starting to come out of the pose "cancer".
    In Tyumen, the local TV company "GTRK" was showing a program where the host interviews Chernomyrdin (who is very old) somewhere in a country house. On their website, in the announcement of the program, it is written - "The last interview of a man of legend." Was surprised to the limit. Lived, the traitors are shown on TV.
  • zambo
    zambo April 12 2013 09: 22
    +2
    "The grave heals the hunchbacks ..." - this is just said about the traitors to the Motherland, both those who have gone and those who are now living, like Gorbachev.
  • Nevsky
    Nevsky April 12 2013 09: 31
    +1
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    I remember Chernomyrdin when he and Basayev popped on the phone, when he took hostages in the hospital. There’s nothing more to say about him!


    Yes .... then they wiped their feet on Russia all and sundry crying angry

  • Bigriver
    Bigriver April 12 2013 09: 45
    +1
    Shameful people of shameful period.
    I would hang out two portrait galleries in schools: on the left - who disgraced and lowered us, on the right - who should be proud of.
    1. sibircat
      sibircat April 12 2013 10: 44
      +1
      Quote: BigRiver
      Shameful people of shameful period.
      I would hang out two portrait galleries in schools: on the left - who disgraced and lowered us, on the right - who should be proud of.

      History is written, unfortunately, by those in power. History teachers in schools are "hanged" because they do not know how to interpret contemporary events taking place in Russia, how many authors of the events of the last 20 years, so many interpretations of what is happening. Putin recently commissioned a unified history textbook to write, it would be very interesting to see this opus.
      In the meantime, the "rulers of the Russian time" (revivalists of the police) erect monuments to their benefactors and the libraries call them after
  • Uncle lee
    Uncle lee April 12 2013 09: 49
    +8
    "We will live in such a way that our grandchildren will envy us" - Chernomyrdin ,.
    "And the living will envy the dead" - and this is how his phrase ends
  • Uncle lee
    Uncle lee April 12 2013 09: 53
    +7
    Six billion $ tranche in one night was stolen at his premiership. The most honest and impoverished official stop
  • erased
    erased April 12 2013 09: 58
    +2
    Chernomyrdin is a prominent politician, an even more prominent businessman, who has enriched himself and his family by many billions of dollars. This is literally a symbol of the era of democratic transformations, liberalism and freedom of the new Russia. His memory will remain in the country for a long time.
    In the days of Stalin, such a policy would have been guaranteed to be carried out under the article "Treason to the Motherland" and slapped under a court sentence! him and dozens of other smaller "chernomyrdins" for betrayal, theft and robbery of their own people!
    And if the current government remembers him so reverently, maybe it wants to repeat his "exploits"?
    1. Karabin
      Karabin April 12 2013 10: 19
      0
      Quote: erased
      And if the current government remembers him so reverently, maybe it wants to repeat his "exploits"?

      Didn’t she repeat it already?
  • vezunchik
    vezunchik April 12 2013 10: 24
    +2
    More than three million rubles lost the budget of the city of Kurgan in the first quarter due to the cessation of activities of small and medium-sized businesses.

    As the director of the city department of economic development, entrepreneurship and trade Olga Pecherina said at the deputy commission, since the beginning of 2013, 820 individual entrepreneurs and 31 limited liability companies have stopped operating in Kurgan due to a double increase in insurance premiums to the Pension Fund. More than half of them were engaged in the fields of wholesale and retail trade, repair of motor vehicles, motorcycles, household goods and personal items. Another 118 individual entrepreneurs, who ceased their activities, were engaged in the provision of public, social and personal services to the population, and 97 - carried out real estate operations. For comparison: for the whole of 2012, 1957 small and medium-sized enterprises, including 1489 entrepreneurs, turned their own businesses.

    Meanwhile, according to the observations of the deputies, some individual entrepreneurs closed only "on paper", but in fact continue to work. Ivan Kamshilov, chairman of the council of the regional branch of Opora Rossii, deputy of the City Duma, suggested that the story of two years ago is being repeated, when individual entrepreneurs massively handed over certificates of entrepreneurial activity and went "under the roof" of public organizations of people with disabilities, which, as you know, have tax benefits. According to Olga Pecherina, the finance department is currently conducting raids on individual entrepreneurs, during which this version will also be checked. Full analytics on the situation with the closure of the IP, as expected, will not be earlier than June.

    The government itself is driving the economy into the shadows (many officials have their own business and are unlikely to pay all taxes, because you simply cannot survive) and then they are surprised at something. In the beginning you have to think, but there is a doubt - is there anything ...
  • Kubanets
    Kubanets April 12 2013 10: 36
    +2
    I do not think that the PMA and EBN were agents of influence. The gas industry official and the provincial secretary of the regional committee did not pull on the first persons of the state. Faced with Jesuit pressure from the West, they obediently laid down under him trying to predict the desire of the owners. Initiative and most importantly free (unlike agents of influence) fools are a godsend for the West.
  • Zeus
    Zeus April 12 2013 10: 53
    +1
    Satanic geek !!!!
  • riding
    riding April 12 2013 10: 54
    +2
    Everything is correct. In the 90s he grew rich against the background of the impoverishment of his people. He is honored only by our venal "elite", but it is hard for them: they have to shoot pseudo-mentalism, hold show rings, explaining the great role of Yeltsin, Gorbachev, Yakovlev, Gaidar, Chernomyrdin. He was prime minister when the predatory privatization and loans-for-shares auctions took place, when the monetarist policy was dictated from across the hill. Protecting him from the anger of the people, Yeltsin dismissed him from office a few months before the default, substituting Kiriyenko with another corrupt skin. And on the GKO scam, Chernomyrdin got what he wanted.
    He sold the country and his backgammon. There is only one name.
  • magadanets
    magadanets April 12 2013 11: 00
    +5
    I’m a former miner. When they didn’t pay their salaries, our leaders went to Moscow to look for the truth. Then they told us at the meeting how Viktor Stepanovich accepted them. He listened attentively and sent them clearly and clearly in three letters. In the literal sense. some are touched by his winged expressions, but when you have a hungry family sitting, having heard such an answer, it wasn’t fun. I hate him. And remember how this benefactor sold amer’s strategic stock of rare earths for a penny. These are just two examples, and there are many more. Yes, there is something to remember this figure.
  • Semyon Albertovich
    Semyon Albertovich April 12 2013 11: 18
    +1
    Apparently today there is a demand for chernomyrdins.
  • AntonR7
    AntonR7 April 12 2013 11: 47
    0
    It's a shame to see how people like Chernomyrdin are glorified, how other thieves are in power, and most importantly, there is no end in sight. In general, the monarchy is necessary, and these temporary presidents only need to steal while in power, and therefore they depend on such as Chernomyrdin - influential "nobles".
  • optimist
    optimist April 12 2013 11: 47
    -1
    I hope Putininoids read the article? So let them answer the question: why does their beloved GDP allow (at least) to glorify these feasts, celebrate their anniversaries, award them with various state awards (remember the hunchback), etc.? The answer here can be only one: he is a purulent PI .... P !!!!
    1. Bigriver
      Bigriver April 12 2013 12: 02
      +1
      Quote: optimist
      I hope Putininoids read the article? ... There can only be one answer: he is a purulent PI .... P !!!!

      You are not expressing yourself well.
      Hatred, like love, fogs the brain and prevents adequate.
      It would be calmer somehow, huh? Colder.
      1. optimist
        optimist April 12 2013 12: 09
        0
        I would like, but it doesn’t work ... Hitler in his time did even less harm than all this hunch-fucking-Putin pack ...
  • ImPerts
    ImPerts April 12 2013 13: 54
    0
    One plus is given to him, he did not allow Gazprom to be torn apart, but it seems to me that this was done in order to manage a transnational corporation, and not for the benefit of the state. It seems that even the chairman of the board does not know who and how is listed among the shareholders. And nobody knows, they just guess.
    What happened then ...? Here is an excerpt about another "architect" of post-Soviet Russia:
    "My war. Chechen diary of a trench general"
    ... But "peace" came, and in the spring of 1999, bored with military affairs, Shamil sent messengers to Albania to offer his help to the command of the Kosovo militants. They delicately refused the services of the "Chechen wolf". But in Turkey, influential Wahhabi leaders made such an offer to Basayev, which, as they say, cannot be refused. The agreement was sealed by a very large sum. According to A. Kadyrov, another million dollars in order to "strengthen friendship between peoples" right on the eve of the Dagestan campaign was "sponsored" by B. Berezovsky.
    ... Heading to Chechnya, Boris Berezovsky (at that moment the official representative of the federal center) first went to Maskhadov, and only then flew to Khankala, to the headquarters of the OGV.
    After listening to Berezovsky, who was exposed by the high authorities, Pulikovsky turned pale, but immediately gathered himself and began to mint the words:
    - I, as the commander of the group, do not agree with this position and I think that you should first of all meet with the leadership of the United Group of Forces. We have gathered here for a long time and are waiting for you. We have something to say. Were you not interested in our opinion, our assessment of the situation, before meeting with Maskhadov?
    “You, general, can consider anything,” the metropolitan visitor flashed his eyes. - Your task: to be silent, to listen and to fulfill what you and Swan are telling you. Got it?
    “You speak without thinking about those people who are now in Grozny, completely surrounded by blood, spitting up blood,” Pulikovsky boiled over. “They are waiting for my help. I promised...
    “I, general, together with your people, along with your entire dead group, will now buy and resell you!” I understand what your promises and ultimatums are worth? ..
    The officers, unwitting witnesses to the conversation, bowed their heads. Pulikovsky could hardly restrain himself. He clenched his fists, turned abruptly and walked away, feeling Boris Abramovich's "firing" look on his back ...
    On the same day, the Supreme Commander was reported to Moscow that the commander's tough position was explained not by military necessity, but by personal motives: they say, in Chechnya, the general's son-officer died, and now he is driven by a thirst for revenge, that in order to satisfy his ambitions he is ready to wipe the city off the face of the earth. Rumors about the general who had become infected with the Chechen "bacillus of blood feud" spread along the corridors of power in Moscow. Pulikovsky, to put it mildly, was pushed aside from the leadership of the group of troops. All this happened a few days before the signing in Khasavyurt of the "end of the war" agreement. "
  • Ruslan67
    Ruslan67 April 12 2013 20: 22
    +2
    Oh! Look everyone in the soul wassat Zadolbali kitchen strategists until I can not negative First, half of the generals - someone on vacation who cries that his Chechen wife refuses to carry out the order and Grachev takes responsibility on the basis of reports of people directly responsible for the preparation and readiness of the troops - and now everyone curses him Then all the power ministers together with their departments continued the action terrorists and except for the premiere in front of cameras and the whole world there is no one to enter into negotiations and now he is a traitor! request Your mother, when you finally understand that the first thing to do was put on the edge of the ditch and score with the butts of the head of the traffic police department or what it was then called along with his subordinates who missed Basayev! fool am
  • ImPerts
    ImPerts April 12 2013 20: 55
    0
    Quote: Ruslan67
    Grachev takes responsibility on the basis of reports of people directly responsible for the training and readiness of the troops
    Shwak her sweep! How to get kitchen analysts bully
    Quote: Ruslan67
    Adolbali kitchen strategists until I can not
    wassat Where did the plan for the capture of Grozny by one RAP go? Or is Basayev ahead of everyone? And under NG came to Budennovsk? And by what date was Grozny promised to take? To 13.12? Or earlier, maybe later? Maybe in October 2002, it was necessary to enter into negotiations? And in Beslan too? The head of the traffic police and his subordinates should not be scored with rifle butts, but judged. With broadcasting on federal channels. But Khasbulatov and Rutsky witnesses that they would talk about the currents, which led to a tear. What was the reaction of the Armed Forces of the RSFSR to the rout of the Chechen-Ingush parliament? And where was the Ministry of Internal Affairs?
    Quote: Ruslan67
    Your mother, when you finally realize that the first thing to do was put on the edge of the ditch
    I would put Brokeback.
    1. Ruslan67
      Ruslan67 April 12 2013 21: 26
      +2
      Quote: ImPerts
      Where did the plan for the capture of Grozny by one RAP go?

      Ask that m .... and who called the war the restoration of constitutional order and assigned the main task to the internal troops from which the AKS-74 was removed and replaced by AKSU-74
      Quote: ImPerts
      But Khasbulatov and Rutsky witnesses that they would talk about the currents, which led to a tear. What was the reaction of the Armed Forces of the RSFSR to the rout of the Chechen-Ingush parliament? And where was the Ministry of Internal Affairs?

      Are we talking about Russian politics of those times as a whole, or about two people who are not the last in our country to whom they are all felled — are both of them alive?
      1. ImPerts
        ImPerts April 12 2013 22: 05
        -1
        Quote: Ruslan67
        Quote: ImPertzWhere did the plan for the capture of Grozny with one RAP go?

        Didn’t Grachev unveil it?
        Quote: Ruslan67
        Are we talking about Russian politics of those times as a whole, or about two people who are not the last in our country to whom they are all felled — are both of them alive?

        I am about Rutsky and Khasbulatov, they are alive. And they can tell a lot of interesting things.
        But throwing words about the kitchen and stuff is not worth it. Even if you like PMF and EBN. You can describe
        Quote: Ruslan67
        about two people who are not the last in our country to whom everything is felled - is it good that both are not alive?
        them so that I would be ashamed of a bad opinion about the role of two triple-letters in the history of the state.
        1. Ruslan67
          Ruslan67 April 12 2013 22: 41
          +1
          Quote: ImPerts
          I am about Rutsky and Khasbulatov, they are alive.

          I'm not talking about them request
          Quote: ImPerts
          EBN

          About him, only obscene but sometimes with a touch of respect, he was sober and sharp
          Quote: ImPerts
          Didn’t Grachev unveil it?

          And he was given to carry it out? For liberal democrats and the rest of the public, One hour to turn Grozny with a carpet bombardment into a large quarry and One hour to put two regiments of convoy forces of explosives with dogs to finish off the wounded and surviving EVERYTHING!
          1. ImPerts
            ImPerts April 12 2013 23: 10
            0
            Quote: Ruslan67
            And he was given to carry it out?

            Did he insist? And about the other generals. Many of them refused, because it took time to plan, develop, prepare. They were not given. Only Pal Sergeevich waved his saber and rushed into battle.
            Quote: Ruslan67
            One hour to turn Grozny carpet bombing into a large quarry

            Russian-speaking, or rather Russian there too?
            Kadyrov R:
            "This adventure was undertaken two weeks before the start of a large-scale war in order to exert a moral and psychological impact on the population of the country, to convince the Russians of the need for military actions and their justification. (The then Minister of Defense) Pavel Grachev, as an experienced military leader, could not help but know that In the center of the city, a tank column will be shot without infantry escort. This is what happened. Tanks burned, servicemen died, some of them were captured, television footage was shown day and night. Was the December assault more carefully planned?
            You can love, not love Grachev, but he is a soldier. A PMC politician, with a heavyweight. And the truth written in the article. And I ate this from the TV screens.
            And the first Chechen one is one of the episodes of the biography. Again, not the best.
            1. Anti
              Anti April 12 2013 23: 16
              0
              Quote: ImPerts
              A PMC politician, with a heavyweight


              Gore-Chernomyrdin nuclear deal. The sale by Russia of the USA of its stock of weapons-grade uranium is a betrayal of national interests. A criminal case must be instituted upon the conclusion of this transaction. Persons guilty of betraying the national interests of Russia must be punished in accordance with the gravity of the crime.

              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QXqBBOqlZU
            2. Anti
              Anti April 12 2013 23: 19
              0
              Quote: ImPerts
              A PMC politician, with a heavyweight.


              Gore-Chernomyrdin uranium deal.
            3. Ruslan67
              Ruslan67 April 12 2013 23: 39
              +1
              Quote: ImPerts
              Did he insist?

              Would you insist?
              Quote: ImPerts
              Pavel Grachev, as an experienced military leader, could not help but know that in the center of the city, without the accompaniment of infantry, a tank column would be shot. And so it happened. Tanks burned, servicemen were killed, some of them were captured, television footage was shown day and night. (this is about the November assault, by the forces of the temporary council and the tankers of Kantemirovka). ”Was the December assault already more carefully planned?

              I don’t want to discuss it all for the hundredth time negative Had the supreme commander of the sky say the word WAR! this would not be anything And Grachev would never send people to slaughter, everything would be as I wrote above attack aircraft and stripping It didn’t happen and he was guilty The same thing with Chernomyrdin would be removed and not made up
              1. ImPerts
                ImPerts April 13 2013 10: 01
                0
                Are we already on you? Okay. I will answer in Hebrew. If you are so smart, why didn’t you intervene and win immediately and irrevocably. Where were you when Grachev agreed with the polit.areopag? Why didn’t you save the Maykop brigade? No, where were you when deputies of parliament were thrown out of windows? With your 2 BB regiments? Probably forgot that the wrong kitchen and jumping above his head will not work.
                Quote: Ruslan67
                Would you insist?

                Answering specifically your question. I would insist, up to the report on dismissal.
                1. Ruslan67
                  Ruslan67 April 13 2013 15: 19
                  +1
                  Quote: ImPerts
                  I would insist, up to the report on dismissal.

                  You would appoint another. You would remain clean but not the fact that the one who would do better instead of you This is called taking responsibility I already raked on this topic so don't get used to the commander whose unit is not ready to carry out what it is intended for and do not roll any references to politicians because the bullet doesn’t give a damn about it
                  Quote: ImPerts
                  de you were when deputies of parliament were thrown out of windows?

                  On duty In bronik and with a cartridge in the barrel
                  1. ImPerts
                    ImPerts April 14 2013 08: 29
                    0
                    Quote: Ruslan67
                    On duty In bronik and with a cartridge in the barrel

                    And then it was necessary to carry out stripping forces BB. When was the Chechen-Ingush Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic. When Dudaev was just starting and spinning the flywheel. And then what happened happened. And soak in the toilet was ordered on time.
  • Anti
    Anti April 12 2013 21: 00
    +1
    Quote: Ruslan67
    butts of the head of the traffic police department or as it was then called along with his subordinates who missed Basayev!


    That's right, unless of course they have received instructions from the top. Generally I read that Chernomyrdin sold a lot of plutonium of the USSR to the west.
    1. Ruslan67
      Ruslan67 April 12 2013 21: 29
      +2
      Quote: Anti
      read that Chernomyrdin sold a lot of plutonium of the USSR to the west.

      And what about the head of the traffic police do not need a butt in the ditch? An integrated approach is needed for Batenka and the squarely nested method — for each female dog by grave in a designated area am
      1. Anti
        Anti April 12 2013 22: 24
        +1
        Yes, at least everyone, along with subordinates, just to find out who would not hurt? And in general, I’ll inform you where it is necessary so that you are not given permission to purchase firearms with a butt and are forbidden to engage in agriculture. am
        1. Ruslan67
          Ruslan67 April 12 2013 22: 46
          +2
          Quote: Anti
          Yes, at least everyone, along with subordinates, just to find out who would not hurt?

          The indicative shooting of two or three people from a battalion before being sent to the front line has a beneficial effect on combat readiness wassat And on the fact of a crime already committed, you can no longer understand - as a rule, everyone is smeared
          Quote: Anti
          I will inform you where it is necessary so that you are not given permission to purchase firearms with a butt and are forbidden to engage in agriculture. am

          Late request
  • Black
    Black April 12 2013 21: 41
    0
    Yesterday, we debated here - are we a superpower?
    Gore persuaded Chernomyrdin to fulfill only the old contracts for the supply of Russian weapons to Iran, and did not sign new contracts with Tehran. In return, the US vice president vowed to Chernomyrdin that America would open Russia the door to the world of high technology.

    And he deceived of course like a gypsy in a flea market! What kind of superpower can we talk about !! We will wash away that shame of the 90s for decades.
  • Varies
    Varies April 13 2013 09: 51
    0
    I saw a libel about this Judas in Russia24, well, and an abomination! May it burn in hell forever!