An-70 in new color

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9 April 2013 of the year at the Kiev Svyatoshino airfield of the Antonov Serial Plant took place the first flight of the second (and only available) prototype of the An-70 military transport aircraft (01-02 serial number, Ukrainian registration UR-NTK) after repainting it at the Serial factory Antonov "in dark gray monochromatic color corresponding to the current standard of the Russian Air Force.

The second prototype of the An-70 (serial number 770102) was built at the Aviant Aviation Plant in Kiev (now the Antonov Serial Plant) and made the first flight of 8 in December 1996 of the year. From July 2010 to August 2012, repairs and upgrades were carried out at Svyatoshino at the Antonov Series Plant, including in accordance with the new requirements of the Russian Ministry of Defense. Flight tests of this aircraft were resumed in Kiev on September 27 2012, and in December the car was transferred to the first stage of joint tests in the interests of the defense ministries of Russia and Ukraine, and this is the reason for its repainting.









The second prototype prototype An-70 (serial number 01-02, Ukrainian registration UR-NTK) in the first flight after repainting in a dark gray monochromatic color.
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  1. +20
    April 10 2013 12: 50
    Good protective color, and repainting is not when it's too late
    1. +3
      April 10 2013 13: 09
      "An-70 aircraft is quite an expensive and unnecessary thing for us"-
      Vladimir Mikhailov, Commander in Chief of the Russian Air Force.
      And why is this message about a new painting of the aircraft? request
      1. Plowing
        +19
        April 10 2013 13: 21
        So beautiful. Well, Ukrainians are hinting that he would have looked good in the Russian Air Force
        1. +24
          April 10 2013 14: 06
          Quote: Groin
          So beautiful. Well, Ukrainians are hinting that he would have looked good in the Russian Air Force
          Really beautiful airplane .. Only Ukrainians were fascinated by speculating with it. Now Il 476 is also beautifully painted laughing
          1. +3
            April 10 2013 21: 30
            It is unclear why should Russia open its arms market to another state?
        2. Avenger711
          0
          April 10 2013 18: 17
          Yeah, we’re ready to give everything. I think if you demand the sale of all the docks, then Ukraine will already agree, it is necessary to eat, but the fat without it has long ended.
          1. akulinich
            +6
            April 10 2013 23: 36
            With your grease, YOU are welcome, ladies and gentlemen! fellow
        3. +2
          April 11 2013 01: 34
          rather hinting at NATO air forces
      2. +2
        April 10 2013 16: 14
        they want Russia to buy, but to give money for new developments, and to redeem their own rights for their own money
        1. Oleg
          0
          April 10 2013 18: 18
          Rights to the studio! winked
      3. +2
        April 10 2013 18: 34
        I repeat, for those who did not understand me and minus. No TODAY political I didn’t ask me the decision to buy An-70 for the Russian Air Force, whether it was bad or not.

        They will buy, then, I think, in our country there and paint and peopleto paint it.

        Therefore, I do not care what color the prototype of the aircraft at the Ukrainian factory was painted. I do not think that color affects the flight characteristics of the aircraft.
      4. phantom359
        +1
        April 10 2013 23: 13
        Well, your Commander in Chief, stealing budget money is much more interesting and cheaper.
    2. Vashestambid
      -35
      April 10 2013 13: 17
      Finally painted in color like the US Air Force good . It looks damn cool !! drinks
      1. Plowing
        -12
        April 10 2013 13: 33
        Not the USA, but China. They like dark gray more.
      2. White
        +17
        April 10 2013 13: 48
        Well this is what you need to be a fascist, so that even the colors are divided into ours and not ours, you are the last Mi-28, Mi-26, Su-34, An-140 ..... they saw they are also painted in gray. And with the An-70 it seems to me rather under the MAKS-2013 did.

        Mi-28 in gray

        Su-34
        1. +3
          April 10 2013 15: 00
          "... a dark gray monochromatic color matching the current Russian Air Force standard."
          1. White
            +5
            April 10 2013 15: 07
            I don’t know the subtleties, but it seems to me that all the samples of different shades of the same IL-476 were painted bright

            IL-476
        2. Horde
          0
          April 10 2013 17: 11
          grays are the colors of the USA technique. OUR equipment, NEVER has ever been painted, so painting airplanes, helicopters in pin_dos colors is WESTERN. Who invented it and WHY was this done ??? There is only one answer, those who came up with this are FAVORING in front of the American way of life. For example, the T-50 is painted just fine and camouflaged, and the decoration at the level, if repainted in the color of a raptor, it will look disgusting, and the lackey plebeian before the DAMAGE Pind_osovsky taste.
          1. +1
            April 10 2013 18: 49
            You have T-50 art in the photo, and not he. They have a different color. In addition, these gray colors look pretty good. The same Su-34 is painted in blue from below and gray from above. the meaning is disguise for.
            1. Horde
              +1
              April 10 2013 20: 29
              t-50t-50


              is it "art" too? by ART you mean the plane separately, paint separately?

              In addition, these gray colors look quite good.


              camouflage looks better
              1. +2
                April 10 2013 21: 42
                Quote: Horde
                is it "art" too? by ART you mean the plane separately, paint separately?


                This is not. By art I understand that it’s just an amateur PAK FA picture even before it was shown. Perhaps based on some knowledge and schemes. But in the first picture - not PAK FA, not a photo at all. And camouflage is not his.

                Quote: Horde
                camouflage looks better

                no.
            2. shpuntik
              +1
              April 11 2013 04: 30
              patsantre (2) Yesterday, 18:49 ↑
              You have T-50 art in the photo, not him.

              I peered, looked: the pilot seems to be there, the hills as in Komsomolsk in winter, I did not find crime. It became interesting to me: how was it determined that this was Art?
          2. 0
            April 10 2013 19: 37
            grays are the colors of the USA technique. OUR equipment, NEVER has ever been painted, so painting airplanes, helicopters in pin_dos colors is WESTERN.

            Bullshit, dear ... dear ... we adopted a lot during the Great Patriotic War of Germany from our enemy ... and it was not a bit of a bitch, but because the best and most economically advantageous should be adopted
            1. Horde
              0
              April 10 2013 20: 38
              we adopted a lot during the Great Patriotic War of our enemy Germany.


              when did we adopt the German colors? give an example.
          3. +2
            April 11 2013 01: 24
            Quote: Horde
            grays are the colors of the USA technique. OUR technique, NEVER has ever been painted,

            make a mistake and make a big mistake:

            IL-38
            1. Horde
              -1
              April 11 2013 07: 10
              make a mistake and make a big mistake:


              I'm talking about Amer dark gray fool
              1. 0
                April 11 2013 09: 53
                Quote: Horde
                I'm talking about Amer dark gray

                I read that when flying, an airplane or helicopter, painted in this way, erodes against the background of the earth's surface. And you must admit, it will be very good if we can bring camouflage in our Air Force to a single model
        3. shpuntik
          -4
          April 10 2013 17: 30
          Black and yellow screws! Fascism will not work :-)
          1. shpuntik
            0
            April 10 2013 18: 11
            Who put me a minus? love What screws are not yellow-black? Or will fascism pass ??? What kind of zapadenets has appeared, and here it is crap, what a small person it is ...
            1. stranik72
              +9
              April 10 2013 20: 31
              I put a minus for the mention of the word fascism, because it is not given essentially a subject, and Ukraine didn’t stand with this word either. As for the screws, it is also unclear what you wanted to emphasize with this, if the color is stupid, the screws are precisely the development of the Russian Federation and are produced by us. In general, fool around elsewhere.
              1. shpuntik
                +2
                April 10 2013 21: 58
                Thanks for the clarification. Sometimes I allow myself an allegory. As one hero of the film said: "People put in gold teeth, but what to do ??" This was a response to a comment. The subject is here.

                White Today, 13: 48 ↑
                Well this is what you need to be a fascist, so that even the colors are divided into ours and not ours, you are the last Mi-28, Mi-26, Su-34, An-140 .....

                stranik72 Today, 20:31 ↑ I put a minus for the mention of the word fascism, because it is not given essentially a subject,
            2. VAF
              VAF
              -1
              April 11 2013 00: 15
              Quote: shpuntik
              Who put me a minus?


              And I set, it’s a pity that no more!
              Why? Stranik72everything is very intelligibly explained to you. I will not repeat! fool
              1. shpuntik
                +1
                April 11 2013 00: 52
                It's good that they confessed! Oh, I haven't seen such a "shit" for a long time, because of a can of paint ... bully And then do not twist at the temple: it is either there or not. :-) Above, I answered and explained.
                For the marshal, I can again. There was a "comment": White Yesterday, 13:48 ↑
                Well this is what you need to be a fascist, so that even the colors are divided into ours and not ours, you are the last Mi-28, Mi-26, Su-34, An-140 ..... they saw they are also painted in gray.

                If you agree that this is fascism, I answer you: no, it (fascism) will not work !!! Because the screws are blue and yellow, to say yellow and black, the colors of the national flag of Ukraine. When the screws turn, this is not visible :-) If you do not understand humor, then how can I help? I didn’t mean anything against the author, the word fascism is no use there. This is what I wanted to say. I don’t share colors on my own and others ’, it’s just a shame to be one color with the Americans. Like that.
                Horde Yesterday, 17:11 ↑
                grays are the colors of the USA technique. OUR equipment, NEVER has ever been painted, so painting airplanes, helicopters in pin_dos colors is WESTERN.
  2. +10
    April 10 2013 12: 54
    EXCELLENT LOOKS !! BEAUTIFUL!
  3. +2
    April 10 2013 12: 57
    four-engine turboprop military transport aircraft manufactured by Airbus Military.
    The first copy of the A400M was demonstrated on June 26, 2008, we are only testing it, and the Europeans have already scammed and made an analogue (copy)
    1. Plowing
      +5
      April 10 2013 13: 19
      In what sense? What does the A-400 have to do with the 70th?
      1. avt
        +6
        April 10 2013 13: 44
        Quote: Groin
        In what sense? What does the A-400 have to do with the 70th?

        Directly, with the Germans they pushed it into NATO as the An-7x to replace their twin-engine Transal, it seems, if I don’t confuse it, but they decided to keep their money and did this "miracle", much worse than the An-70. the Chinese in exchange for their copies of the An-12, but they shot the same.It's a pity of course the airplane, but it looks like its fate is predetermined negative . Alas.
        1. +2
          April 10 2013 14: 50
          Quote: avt
          It's a pity, of course, an airplane, but it seems that its fate is predetermined. Alas.

          A purely political decision, the plane is the best suited for the Russian Air Force transporters relatively small take-off run, mileage. The possibility of take-off from unpaved strips and good transport characteristics, I think the RF will return to this plane, there is no alternative, except that buying the A 400M is more expensive and worse in terms of characteristics. Well, actually, Europeans, on the other hand, can make an offer, if they haven't already.
          1. avt
            0
            April 10 2013 15: 00
            Quote: saturn.mmm
            I think the RF will return to this plane, there is no alternative, except to buy A 400M is more expensive and worse in terms of characteristics.

            There is an alternative, there is no factory, Kazan already waved a pen on television when Shoigu came there, they have a nose for these matters. Most likely Ily will do 476 and MTA with the Indians request Yes, I’ll also agree about a political decision, but the A-400 laughing This is from the realm of fiction, a liquid airplane, they could not even their TK negative perform, not to mention childhood illnesses.
            1. 0
              April 10 2013 16: 22
              how can Kazan wave a handle to a federal plant?

              It’s one thing that there all the capacities are already occupied ..
        2. Plowing
          0
          April 10 2013 14: 56
          Why is it worse than the An-70?
          1. +4
            April 10 2013 15: 02
            Quote: Groin
            Why is it worse than the An-70?

            Flight performance.
            1. Plowing
              0
              April 10 2013 15: 40
              Proof? What characteristics, if he was just about to pass the test?
              1. 0
                April 10 2013 17: 04
                Quote: Groin
                What characteristics, if he was just about to pass the test?

                The first flight of the An-70 in 1994.
                Regarding the similarity of the A-400 with the An-70, here is a link there that they write something about it. http://www.airwar.ru/enc/craft/fla.html
      2. +1
        April 10 2013 14: 55
        Quote: Groin
        What does the A-400 have to do with the 70th?

        The most direct, there is completely Antonovsky development of the glider.
        1. Plowing
          +1
          April 10 2013 15: 41
          One story is more amazing than another simply.
      3. 0
        April 10 2013 16: 19
        technical documentation was handed over to NATO, and designed with Russian money
      4. shpuntik
        +1
        April 10 2013 17: 35
        As far as I know, the screws were stolen. When the collapse was lack of money, the Germans promised to do joint production: they got access to the drawings, the result is visible with the naked eye.
    2. caprall
      +3
      April 10 2013 13: 33
      The AN-70 was "ready" back in the nineties, but someone there did not want to cooperate with a free (from whom?) Ukraine. By the way, after much scrubbing, common sense won out, but alas, the niche is occupied by the A-400. Now, for the sake of what a price ... It would be a pity, it would be a good replacement for the AN-12
      1. Plowing
        0
        April 10 2013 15: 51
        And who else wants to cooperate with Ukrainians in this world? wink
        1. +5
          April 10 2013 17: 15
          Quote: Groin
          And who else wants to cooperate with Ukrainians in this world?

          You are so vain.
    3. politruk419
      0
      April 11 2013 02: 37
      Guys, aviators! Explain to me, a diver, why does the Airbus A400M have sickle-shaped screws? On our boats, they are designed to reduce noise and cavitation .... but why would an airplane have "sickles"?
  4. +6
    April 10 2013 12: 57
    Someone said that this color is the color of the aliens' skin (the Illuminati that rule us). Therefore, this color is actively used by NATO countries.
    PS Do not think bad, I'm healthy and in my right mind =) Just someone wrote on the site and I stupidly plagiarized.
    1. Volkhov
      0
      April 10 2013 13: 45
      Now the world war between the systems of Zionism and Nazism is intensifying, and color is being unified in order to recognize its own. The USA, the Russian Federation, China, and NATO are all the same.
      The Nazis are not visible, but their provinces in national colors.
    2. mamba
      +2
      April 10 2013 13: 53
      Quote: Manager
      this color is the color of the aliens' skin (the Illuminati that rule us).

      Do not confuse sour with soft. Gray aliens are the most common race in ufology. http://x-files.org.ua/articles.php?article_id=1947 They noted frequent abductions of people, cruel experiments on them, the installation of implants that control the psyche of people. They obey another race of aliens: reptoids, which are extremely hostile to people, consider people to be cattle and, according to some, use them for food.
      For other races of aliens: http://nlo.narod.ru/rasa.htm
      The Illuminati are members of the German secret society of Professor Adam Weishaupt (1776). Today, "Illuminati" refers to many of today's closed Masonic-type groups, such as the Rosicrucians or the Bavarian Illuminati. Their goal is to establish a "New World Order" (NWO). The essence of the term is that a certain intellectual elite of the world community is becoming much more preferable than the national self-determination of individual states. Under the IMP, everything is determined by an influential group of international statesmen, international bankers, businessmen, media moguls and other individuals influencing the politics of individual countries. Ideologically, the NWO is manifested in the globalization processes in the world, accompanied by the concentration of world capital and the formation of special public opinion with the help of the media, in which the NWO should be considered the most correct path for the development of all mankind.
      1. +1
        April 10 2013 14: 45
        Or maybe gray paint is simply cheaper, that's all, and no aliens, Zionists, Nazis, etc.
        1. Wlad59
          +6
          April 10 2013 14: 55
          Do not write any crap .... after the first test flights, the plane is painted in the colors of the CUSTOMER. (this is a worldwide practice)
        2. -3
          April 10 2013 15: 03
          ))) the light gray primer was mixed with black paint and it turned dark gray, and at the same time primed and painted))
      2. +3
        April 10 2013 15: 09
        Quote: mamba
        Gray aliens are the most common race.

        What are the mushrooms called do not tell?
        1. +2
          April 10 2013 15: 48
          Quote: saturn.mmm
          What are the mushrooms called do not tell?


          I don’t understand any more Dubolomovs, who refuse to admit for a time that it’s not so simple in this world and that we are certainly not alone.
          For example, I’m not at all sure that some sort of alien race is controlling us, but at the same time I’m 101% sure of their existence and their interest in our planet. And I think it's generally stupid to deny it. If people would give up all benefits for at least a year (Auto, Internet, electricity in general), then I think it would give not bad chances for re-understanding the world as a whole. But who, then, will allow and want ...
          1. +2
            April 10 2013 16: 35
            Quote: Manager
            I don’t understand duboloms anymore

            A lot of people believe in the Jewish gods, some in Buddha and some in Hari-Krishna, and I see nothing wrong with that. If a new doctrine of aliens appears, then it also probably has the right to be, the main thing is that this doctrine is not to the detriment of others and does not carry evil. With the development of youth technologies, it is becoming increasingly difficult to instill faith in God, the stories of how Abram gave birth to Cain and Abel are not convincing right now, and the topic of aliens is more suitable for the time (I didn’t put you down)
        2. +2
          April 10 2013 15: 53
          What are the mushrooms called do not tell?

          Psilocybin.
          1. mamba
            +3
            April 10 2013 17: 06
            Quote: rpek32
            Psilocybin

            This substance contained in them is called that, and the mushrooms growing in Russia are Psilocybe semilanceolate. It has a psychoactive effect. I have not tried the taste and effect. And about the aliens, to meet with them - God had mercy, and I gave links to information about them.
            1. +2
              April 10 2013 17: 09
              Pruška is ordinary.
              I tried 1 time in my youth. Beer / wine is much better
            2. 0
              April 10 2013 17: 29
              Quote: mamba
              This substance, contained in them, is called that, and the mushrooms growing in Russia are Psilocybe semi-lanceolate: It has a psychoactive effect.

              Thanks for the information.
              We had a teacher, so he explained the presence of aliens by the fact that the area of ​​the feet is less than the hull and that someone is trampling the feet on the bus.
            3. wax
              0
              April 10 2013 17: 43
              The effect on the brain is irreversible.
            4. +1
              April 10 2013 20: 16
              Quote: mamba
              The psilocyte is semi-lanceolate. It has a psychoactive effect. I have not tried the taste and effect.



              One hat = minutes 40 very bright hallucinations (cartoons). It is popular among sailors of the Chukchi coast, where it gathers.
  5. +2
    April 10 2013 12: 58
    beautiful plane! It's a shame if the troops are left without
    him!
  6. Algor73
    +10
    April 10 2013 12: 58
    I hope that mutual friction in this project is already behind us and the first flight in a new coloring will be the first flight of mutually beneficial ideas of the two states, not only in the field of aircraft manufacturing, but also in all relations between Ukraine and Russia.
    1. Nesvet Nezar
      +9
      April 10 2013 13: 20
      Quote: Algor73
      I hope that mutual friction in this project is already behind us and the first flight in a new coloring will be the first flight of mutually beneficial ideas of the two states, not only in the field of aircraft manufacturing, but also in all relations between Ukraine and Russia.


      While I’m alive, I won’t consider Tambov, Kuban, Smolensk, Altai and Ukraine separate states. At the household level, for every normal Russian in Russia and a Ukrainian (Russian living in Ukraine) from Ukraine, the government and the Parliament of Ukraine are a misunderstanding. And the power (government and deputies) of these citizens of Ukraine is usurpation and separatist. If it were my will, I wouldn’t invest a dime in Ukraine and score on fraternities, then everything would return to normal sooner. we invest in Kharkov and Bendery and SS men receive pensions from the Ukrainian budget ... Tyagnibok spat on all the neighbors. Fatherland wants to join the EU .... Well, let them go to the EU. Will they give them money there for Nikolaev shipyards and Kharkov aircraft?
      1. caprall
        +1
        April 10 2013 13: 39
        What are you, uncle, just like your wife left you .... We must work in the future, and not cry about the past .. Do not planes with China ... They will immediately muddle their tail. Ukraine has good potential, since the Sov.time. So this should be used. The generals are similar to you in their thoughts have already stolen this project in the muddy 90s ..
        1. Nesvet Nezar
          +4
          April 10 2013 14: 50
          Quote: kaprall
          What are you, uncle, just like your wife left you .... We must work in the future, and not cry about the past .. Do not planes with China ... They will immediately muddle their tail. Ukraine has good potential, since the Sov.time. So this should be used. The generals are similar to you in their thoughts have already stolen this project in the muddy 90s ..


          China steals for itself - it somehow looks better against the background of Ukrainian technological gifts to Europe and the United States ... Where are the guarantees that the "fraternal" Bandera members will not show their cookies and will not surrender their established positions to competitors? There are no guarantees. Because the entire Ukrainian government appeared by chance. In geopolitics, Ukraine plays the role of a bargaining pawn. There will never be stability there. To give dill politicians leverage, I would be careful. Brotherhood is when one vegetable garden. And when the gardens are different, this is a neighborhood. Why are we again trying to restore the neighboring industry? In Samara, Voronezh and Perm there are not enough people, land and unrecovered production areas?
        2. +2
          April 10 2013 15: 15
          Quote: kaprall
          У Ukraine good potential, even with Sov.time.

          In principle, I agree with everything, though the name of the country still needs to be written with a capital letter.
      2. gladiatorakz
        +1
        April 10 2013 20: 08
        Quote: Nesvet Nezarya
        If it were my will, I would not invest a dime in Ukraine and score on fraternities

        It's good that you have no will. Live as you used to, strategist. Are you the only one in the family? Brotherly feelings are alien to you. With people like you and enemies do not.
      3. shpuntik
        +1
        April 11 2013 01: 46
        I agree in many ways and support it. The Ukrainians themselves are to blame for the defamation of Russia. Instead of throwing rotten eggs at the Orangemen, they went to the Maidan. Were led by anti-Russian propaganda. So it is not far from the civil war. That history has been forgotten: "white" - "red", a typical divorce! Even here on the forum minus figures, as in the war. Because of which? Because of the paint can! Okostya!
        Read Gogol, who is Russian:It seemed extremely strange to Ostap and Andria that with them the death of the people came to Sich, and if only someone would ask: where are these people from, who are they and what is their name. They came here, as if returning to their own house, from which they had left only an hour before. The one who came appeared only to the koshev; who used to say:
        - Hello! What do you believe in Christ?
        - I believe! - answered come.
        - And you believe in the holy trinity?
        - I believe!
        - And go to church?
        - I go!
        - Well, cross!
        The one who came was baptized.
        “Well, well,” replied Koseva, “go to that one, and you know the hen.”
        This ended the whole ceremony.

        I have a brother in Volyn, he lives in Lutsk, Russian, Afghan and what's good? He stayed there after graduation, got married, got an apartment, and so on. But a "stranger" he will remain a "stranger". Ukraine will be either with Poland or with Russia, there is no other option. The watershed, 80-90%, is here: Catholic-Orthodox. And Napoleon pinned himself with "twelve languages", and the Teutonic orders with the Lithuanians, and the Swedes are all latins. IMHO.
  7. 3dmaxsev
    +5
    April 10 2013 12: 59
    Yes, I probably would have already gone to the series! How much can you pull !?
    1. Wlad59
      +3
      April 10 2013 14: 57
      The plane has already gone into production. (state tests completed) Would send orders to him ...
  8. mamba
    +2
    April 10 2013 13: 01
    Beautiful plane. It is a pity that his fate did not work out. And could serve for the benefit of Russia and Ukraine. I hope that it will be like that.
    As a person far from aviation, I am somewhat confused by the large width of the propeller blades. Given their number and alignment, frontal resistance, apparently, will be too big?
    1. +2
      April 10 2013 13: 31
      This is the so-called propeller-fan unit. This is how it should look. It has a number of advantages over the "classic" scheme.
    2. Wlad59
      +5
      April 10 2013 14: 15
      Thanks to these screws (developed in my opinion in Stupino), the AN-70 also possesses properties that other transporters could not even dream of. ((Thanks to them, there is such an airflow of the wing that the aircraft can take off and lands on takeoff 300-600 meters.
    3. +3
      April 10 2013 15: 21
      Quote: mamba
      As a person far from aviation, I am somewhat confused by the large width of the propeller blades. Given their number and alignment, frontal resistance, apparently, will be too big?

      It turned out more economical than the European A-400 and the carrying capacity is 10 tons higher. The plane is wonderful.
  9. +5
    April 10 2013 13: 06
    Yes, the car turned out beautiful, and the LTX is not bad.
  10. pa_nik
    +2
    April 10 2013 13: 10
    Beauty! Sorry, history has no subjunctive mood .. recourse And they could ... Iehh ... crying
  11. +3
    April 10 2013 13: 14
    Just think, it was only necessary to paint it in the "desired" color and the car became - generally a class. Maybe it's time for politicians in Kiev to also think about "repainting" in the desired color ...
  12. fastblast
    +8
    April 10 2013 13: 18
    Great and beautiful car!
    I really hope for the cooperation of our countries on this bird!
  13. +5
    April 10 2013 13: 24
    I believe that the hopes for its adoption by our Air Force are meaningless. The probability of a repeat of the orange period in the history of Ukraine is too high.
    1. +1
      April 10 2013 13: 42
      At one time, it seemed, they were going to redeem the rights to it and to produce in Russia. But then it calmed down. Either with the localization of the problem, or did not agree, or simply changed their minds ... or a duck
  14. Vtel
    0
    April 10 2013 13: 41
    Handsomely! Straight "Black Raven"
  15. +5
    April 10 2013 13: 47
    Tupolev is infinitely right: "Only beautiful airplanes can fly well." This cannot be taken away from the An-70 ...
  16. +3
    April 10 2013 13: 48
    handsome !!!
  17. +4
    April 10 2013 13: 59
    Damn, a beautiful bird - in no way inferior to NATO. In its niche, a very promising aircraft. It is a pity that he became hostage to political tensions between the two countries. I hope that Ukraine and Russia can still overcome the differences and give birth to this beautiful car.
    1. +1
      April 10 2013 14: 51
      Quote: Gladius
      Damn, a beautiful bird - in no way inferior to NATO

      Their counterpart is the ugly S-130 Hercules, but you say it’s not inferior, superior!
  18. +2
    April 10 2013 14: 07
    Quote: abc_alex
    I believe that the hopes for its adoption by our Air Force are meaningless. The probability of a repeat of the orange period in the history of Ukraine is too high.



    The fact is that there is no particular problem here. Design Bureau "Antonov" yes this is Ukraine, but the main production base of the aircraft, which it is intended to replace, namely An12 is located in Voronezh, and this is Russia. Well, it happened in the USSR ...
    1. Wlad59
      +2
      April 10 2013 14: 22
      Not quite right .... the main problem, but it has remained since the collapse of the Union, in that the wing for heavy aircraft (AN-124, AN-70, IL-76) was made in Tashkent at TAPO named after Chkalova. And all the rigging and equipment remained there. But the Uzbeks do not want to sell or give. ((so that there is an airplane, but where to make a wing ...?
      1. Oleg
        +4
        April 10 2013 14: 37
        It would be a desire, but making a wing is not a problem ... A handsome airplane!
        1. Wlad59
          +1
          April 10 2013 15: 13
          Of course not .... ((problem to find $ 1 billion for the purchase of equipment!
    2. NAPOLEON
      0
      April 10 2013 14: 39
      I wonder where it is in Voronezh. everything bent there too
      1. Wlad59
        0
        April 10 2013 14: 53
        If they will assemble the AN-70 (which I would very much like, because it is a really cool aircraft), then this is possible only in Ulyanovsk or in Kiev. But Ulyanovsk has already loaded IL-476, it remains ...
      2. maxvet
        0
        April 10 2013 17: 21
        yes it seems they make 2-3 planes per year
  19. -2
    April 10 2013 14: 33
    You can masturbate for beauty ad infinitum.
    While in power in Ukraine, collaborators, either to buy there, is to make themselves dependent on the enemies of Russia. hi
    1. Oleg
      +5
      April 10 2013 14: 39
      Quote: ATATA
      You can masturbate for beauty ad infinitum.
      While in power in Ukraine, collaborators, either to buy there, is to make themselves dependent on the enemies of Russia. hi

      Buy from China ... wink
      1. 0
        April 10 2013 15: 31
        Quote: olega
        Buy from China.

        Themselves with a mustache.
        1. opkozak
          -1
          April 10 2013 18: 11
          Well, the Brazilians, then. On the barter of 10 armor (like. As the contract has already been signed) - 1 wing. There, people build many planes a year (more than 200). So. that the wing in the quarter zabatsyut.
          And ANom 225 to deliver to Russia. Or is it also a pity that Ukraine pays for transportation ?.
  20. Oleg
    +6
    April 10 2013 14: 50
    It’s just that if you really look at things, neither Ukraine nor Russia will ever fight with each other, but the fact that such a policy is being pursued both with you and us is like who is the first guy at the disco ... And Somal is cool by all, etc.!
  21. 0
    April 10 2013 14: 53
    The production of all Russian weapons systems is difficult to master alone, we need Ukraine and Belarus and they understand this, and they need us. It is a pity, but the Ukrainian leadership is trying to play on the contradictions between Russia and Europe in order to maximize the benefits. Ukrainians need to understand that they are needed to fight against Russia, i.e. they are needed as long as Russia exists. But this applies to all the republics of the former USSR and they need to remember this.
  22. -1
    April 10 2013 14: 54
    There is no Ukraine in the CU ... there are no joint projects .. what kind of conversation can there be .. a similar picture of gas transit ... in 2013, the share of Ukrainian transit for the first time was set below 50% and this will continue .. similar cases and for helicopter engines, Nikolaev shipyards (They stand without orders), you can continue for a long time ... but why .. Decide on Ukraine, with whom you ...
    1. White
      +8
      April 10 2013 15: 03
      Belarus in the CU and only today was an article to refuse to buy wheeled chassis from them, and in the comments everyone was happy about it. For me it is so if it is mutually beneficial why not do it? And about enemies, for example, you put American engines on an Ansant helicopter and nothing, but how everyone enjoyed the Mi-38 records
    2. Oleg
      +6
      April 10 2013 15: 03
      Quote: plotnikov561956
      There is no Ukraine in the CU ... there are no joint projects .. what kind of conversation can there be .. a similar picture of gas transit ... in 2013, the share of Ukrainian transit for the first time was set below 50% and this will continue .. similar cases and for helicopter engines, Nikolaev shipyards (They stand without orders), you can continue for a long time ... but why .. Decide on Ukraine, with whom you ...

      But you simply cannot be Ukraine, you just need to decide? Interestingly, France is also in the vehicle? winked
      1. 0
        April 10 2013 16: 01
        Yes, you have forgotten about the Ukrainian "Buki" in Georgia ... anti-Russian rhetoric for 20 years ... the SS and Bandera's invasions in Lvov ... the monuments to Shukhevych and Bandera ...
        Continue...? What for...?
      2. -4
        April 10 2013 16: 12
        the answer is simple - NO, DO NOT like it, - to the garden ...
        will you sing there? - you will listen there!
  23. +8
    April 10 2013 14: 59
    The plane is excellent and necessary. It is a pity that he became a victim of political fuss between the tops of Russia and Ukraine. But you need to think about replacing the An-12 veteran today. And not only to think, but to do something real for this ...
    And the color is also nothing like that. It looks ... It's a pity, but most likely it will in no way change the unlucky fate of the An-70 for the better. So, replacing the old An-12 will not come soon ...
    1. Wlad59
      0
      April 10 2013 15: 06
      I repeat: after the start of flight tests, the plane is painted in the colors of the CUSTOMER !!! Those. customer of the Ministry of Defense of Russia. (in any case, this particular aircraft) What will happen next ???
      1. +5
        April 10 2013 15: 33
        I will clarify. Usually, not after the beginning, but after the end of the tests, the aircraft is finally painted according to T.U. Customer. Accurate before acceptance of the product by the Customer. Moreover, this is being done in precisely this order throughout the world.
        1. +5
          April 10 2013 16: 01
          Will explain. Ukrainian designers (God give them health!) Really want this pretty and very good. the right car has entered the series. And this can only be provided by Russia. I also want this.
        2. Wlad59
          +3
          April 10 2013 16: 53
          That's right .... I just wanted to emphasize that the customer is the Russian Ministry of Defense. ((which means the AN-70 has a future!
      2. shpuntik
        +5
        April 10 2013 17: 45
        Nothing will happen. The plane was transferred from one weight category to another, this is the main mistake. Instead of replacing the An-12, he became a competitor to the IL-76. Tightened the trade. During this time, the production of IL-76 was transferred to Russia. It was not necessary to believe the Germans. This case with the An-70, like a litmus test: with whom to be Ukraine.
  24. +1
    April 10 2013 15: 45
    VERY BEAUTIFUL SWALLOW!
  25. serov
    0
    April 10 2013 15: 55
    Beautiful support
  26. SPIRITofFREEDOM
    +3
    April 10 2013 16: 46
    And the tattered kites in the white house are sitting and rubbing their hands that the fraternal peoples quarreled!
  27. +1
    April 10 2013 16: 51
    Good It’s even a pity that I did not fly on it. :)
    Humpback, something like "Ruslan" looks like the 7th photo. If you ignore the motors.
  28. waisson
    0
    April 10 2013 16: 56
    rejoice that at least the NATO coloring took good and then imagine if Yudashkin was invited to color, I think it was eh and glamorous hi
  29. +1
    April 10 2013 17: 18
    I think on the basis of AN 70 you can create a wonderful passenger plane for those places where the concept of a concrete airfield is completely absent. For example, inaccessible areas of the Far East ..
    1. Good man
      +3
      April 10 2013 21: 14
      for this there is an-140 which is already flying there
  30. +1
    April 10 2013 17: 19
    An-70 aircraft is very necessary for our Air Force.
    As soon as his refinement would have ended ...
    1. WS
      0
      April 10 2013 17: 41
      So all the same, ours refused or not from 70 ki?
  31. shpuntik
    +1
    April 10 2013 17: 55
    Another example of how one wrong decision for a decade changes the lives of thousands of people. At one time it was called sabotage. I am talking about transferring an airplane from one weight category to another. Previously, I somehow did not pay attention to this fact, the Germans thought the Antonovites were overwhelmed: they took a picture and that's it, but now everything is seen differently. It turns out that they wanted to do a competitor IL-76? Or I'm wrong? Here is a quote from an interesting article:
    “But the main thing is that it had to take on board up to 35 tons of cargo. It was what was needed.
    But then politics intervened for the first time. An-70 was lucky enough to be born when the country was already collapsing. Its military-industrial complex also collapsed. Perhaps that is why the work of the Kiev designers did not work out right away. During the design process, Air Force requirements were thrown into the trash. The weight of the aircraft has grown significantly. True, the carrying capacity also increased - up to 47 tons. However, the trouble is that such an aircraft can no longer be considered a medium military transport, this is a "niche" of heavy vehicles. The well-known Il-70 of various modifications was waiting for a long time in this "niche". "Link: http://svpressa.ru/society/article/64930/
    1. Oleg
      +3
      April 10 2013 18: 46
      There’s not a competitor IL-476, but a completely different plane! Why did the Chinese practically tear off their Y-20 and made their cargo compartment bigger and wider? bosses and dosvidos! A city, armor, the same t-90-figs, if you cut the tracks with a grinder ....
  32. 0
    April 10 2013 17: 57
    Good machine! It is a pity that he became an apple of discord.
  33. +1
    April 10 2013 17: 58
    Good machine! It is a pity that he became an apple of discord.
  34. sokoloff4791
    +1
    April 10 2013 19: 15
    DO NOT BELIEVE ANYONE AND DO IT !!!!!!!! CINEMA PROGRAMMY ONLY am
  35. stranik72
    +1
    April 10 2013 20: 17
    Quote: zanoza
    Vladimir Mikhailov, Commander-in-Chief of the Russian Air Force. And why is this message about a new painting of the aircraft?

    Before giving such comments, they would have looked at who is the commander in chief of the Russian Air Force today. And stupid for opportunistic reasons to say all the best. And it’s a pity for 6 years after Mikhailov’s departure, in principle, nothing has changed in the Air Force.
  36. gladiatorakz
    +1
    April 10 2013 20: 20
    Great plane !!! Handsome !!! It is from him that the development of joint projects will begin! And over the years, more and more Russia and Ukraine will begin to implement large-scale mutually beneficial projects!
  37. Wlad59
    +3
    April 10 2013 20: 32
    Today there was another confirmation that the AN-70s will be assembled and sold. "... April 10, AEX.RU - Today in Moscow, the chairman of the state commission of the Russian Ministry of Defense Vladislav Bruskov announced the completion of state tests of the SV-27 propfan for the D-27 engine, intended for installation on An-70 aircraft ..." - if on the AN-70 project for the Russian Ministry of Defense, an end was put, then there would be no state. there were no tests. ((the propfan for the AN-70 is what makes it a unique transport aircraft: thanks to the blowing of the wing, the plane can take off and land on a heel.
  38. 0
    April 10 2013 21: 21
    Beautiful car! It will be very disappointing if the project turns out to be a victim of political disagreement.
  39. 0
    April 10 2013 21: 29
    Handsome !!! fellow
  40. +1
    April 10 2013 21: 41
    handsome, you can make a ganship out of it, such as Amerovsky si130, hang greenbacks for our special forces in the mountains, ooh, well done Ukrainians know how to do well
  41. Geser
    0
    April 10 2013 22: 02
    The plane is beautiful, and the color ... dumb under amers and those who mow with them. If this paint gives stealth, then another calico ...
  42. +2
    April 10 2013 22: 33
    Believe "zhovto-blakitnym" as it is not very successful. How many times have they promised, signed, swore ... and each time they deceived. No wonder the traitor Hetman Mazepa became a national hero. And with the plane they will throw, how to drink, give, throw, one has only to hint that this is harmful to European integration.
    1. phantom359
      +1
      April 10 2013 23: 20
      Quote: Naval
      Believe "zhovto-blakitnym" as it is not very successful. How many times have they promised, signed, swore ... and each time they deceived. No wonder the traitor Hetman Mazepa became a national hero. And with the plane they will throw, how to drink, give, throw, one has only to hint that this is harmful to European integration.

      What kind of hero are you grinding? And I threw no less in Russia, especially in Moscow Region, your only one Serdyukov with his own b’s, what’s worth it. It is not necessary to judge all Ukrainians by frostbitten.
      1. +1
        April 11 2013 00: 13
        And whose portrait you painted on the banknote would not have been a hero, would not have been painted hi I'm not talking about all Ukrainians, I myself come from there, and all my relatives are there, but the "Galician" influence is very strong, therefore there is no faith .. No.
        And we can somehow cope with our own people without the help of the European democratizers.
        1. 0
          April 11 2013 00: 39
          her samik himself just asks in the hands of our flyers, apparently made for "our" all ANT is the NAME of the whole USSR, for me this is the same for the airborne forces and special forces, well, then everything is as usual in the kitchen of the Russians)) necessary in any case))
          especially the 3rd photo, against the background of the domes, was impressed, like our 50th not long ago, well, you need to pick it up to love, at least for the sake of school
    2. Good man
      0
      April 11 2013 00: 20
      Quote: Naval
      Believe "zhovto-blakitnym" as it is not very successful. How many times have they promised, signed, swore ... and each time they deceived.

      For the second time, the Russian Federation leaves this project and threatened to withdraw from it one hundred and five hundred times ...
  43. phantom359
    +2
    April 10 2013 23: 17
    The plane is great. It’s high time to put in the troops, given that in Russia the emphasis is on the Airborne Forces, as the main striking force.
  44. +2
    April 10 2013 23: 21
    In fact, they’ll throw it away. It’s easy. The goofy son of a Soviet officer will come to Vladya, they will call him from Washington, and he will immediately turn off production and supply spare parts. As well as the current one, who has not sat down twice. care about the country. Margarine.
    1. SIT
      0
      April 11 2013 11: 57
      Quote: eugene
      In fact, they’ll throw it away. It’s easy. The goofy son of a Soviet officer will come to Vladya, they will call him from Washington, and he will immediately turn off production, and supply spare parts

      Therefore, it is necessary to quietly restore ALL production ties between Russia and Ukraine, and not only in the aviation industry. If they are de facto restored, then the fulfillment of such an order from Washington will immediately throw millions of unemployed Ukrainians onto the street. will also pull problems with partner trust in other industries. Let's say on Monday another "independent" and "independent" leader, having received a kick from the State Department, issues a decree to curtail production, on Wednesday a lot of people are fired all over Ukraine, and on Friday Sevastopol, Odessa, Kharkov, Nikolaev, Krivoy Rog, Donetsk become regional centers of the Russian Federation in view of 100% of the will of residents in a spontaneous referendum. On Saturday and until Sunday evening, residents of these cities and environs wash down Ukrainian vodka with Russian vodka, spinning figs towards the west.
  45. Urkodav
    0
    April 11 2013 00: 15
    As I understand it, the color tone of military equipment is the main trouble of the modern Russian army. Bravo Shoigu! Keep it up!
  46. UFO
    +1
    April 11 2013 02: 00
    Quote: gladiatorakz
    Great plane !!! Handsome !!! It is from him that the development of joint projects will begin! And over the years, more and more Russia and Ukraine will begin to implement large-scale mutually beneficial projects!

    I doubt it. Commercial relations between Russia and Ukraine are like in a joke: "Yesterday I glued wallpaper with my wife, bl ... b, I almost got divorced."
  47. +1
    April 11 2013 02: 06
    The plane is good, what is the merit, first of all, of the design bureau collective, but the managers from the authorities are bad!
    You need to decide and choose a partner - "not for one night"!
  48. 0
    April 11 2013 03: 31
    Quote: Botanologist
    One hat = minutes 40 very bright hallucinations (cartoons). It is popular among sailors of the Chukchi coast, where it gathers.

    some kind of vigorous. in Komi to "flood" you need to eat 30 pieces
  49. +1
    April 11 2013 04: 11
    the color should really correspond to the region. where this type of equipment is used ...
  50. 0
    April 11 2013 10: 08
    A damn thing is not clear: will the Russian Air Force purchase An-70 or not?
    According to the latest info from March 29 of this year, which I saw, they will not buy.
  51. +1
    April 11 2013 11: 14
    And in general, this is not a Ukrainian, but a Soviet plane. So that :)
  52. yarvol
    -2
    April 11 2013 13: 39
    An-70 Ukrainian. And its main difference from the IL is that it can transport 98% of the range of weapons of the Russian army, and the IL-476 only 70%, not to mention much greater (almost twice) efficiency and better performance characteristics. So, I think comments on this matter are unnecessary, and the question of whether to buy or not is now being decided by politicians. http://zn.ua/UKRAINE/otkazavshis-ot-an-70-rossiya-proigraet-vt

    ehnicheskom-plane-ekspert-120111_.html
    1. +2
      April 11 2013 14: 01
      The An-70 successfully migrated from the USSR to Ukraine. Otherwise there are some kind of double standards: like the Holodomor, it’s Russia, and like an airplane, it’s Ukraine. No, gentlemen, that’s not good :)))

      All Ukraine did was repaint it gray :))))
      1. yarvol
        +2
        April 11 2013 15: 15
        In any case, the plane is good, if not the best in its class.
        1. lilit.193
          +1
          April 19 2013 11: 18
          Quote: yarvol
          In any case, the plane is good, if not the best in its class.

          Yes, it's a shame that they abandoned it.

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