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North Korea: US double play? ("Atlantico", France)

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North Korea: US double play? ("Atlantico", France)

Some conspiracy-obsessed intelligence officials believe that North Korea’s behavior is only intended to justify the American presence in Asia. Which is essentially against China.


At the end of March, the “eternal” Pyongyang dictator Kim Jong-un threatened South Korea and the United States with nuclear strikes. Thus, the scenario of the Third World War or a regional cataclysm can no longer be completely cast aside, even if the aggressive (and often quite predictable) behavior of the North Korean regime is aimed primarily at gaining certain advantages (cancellation of sanctions, food and financial assistance, etc.) d.) Be that as it may, conspiracy theories have now come into vogue in networks and some intelligence services that behind the showy irrationality of Pyongyang, there is actually an “objective alliance” between totalitarian North Korea, on the one hand, and the United States and South Korea, on the other. .

From this hypothesis it follows that the threat from Pyongyang (since 1948 has been consistently supported by China) justifies the US military presence in the region and is not so contrary to the interests of South Korea: the presence of American bases allows Seoul to reduce the consistently high military spending. Yes, in the South, no doubt, they would sincerely like to overthrow the communist regime in the North, but it can also mark a serious economic loss. The fact is that the fall of the existing government in Pyongyang with the subsequent unification of the country would cost Seoul in the amount of 500 billions to 3 trillions of dollars, and also seriously slow down the economic growth of the South Korean dragon and affect the competitiveness of its enterprises.

South Korea's rivalry with Japan

Japan, too, is afraid of the North Korean enemy, who often threatened her with war, but at the same time fears the unification of the two Koreas: a similar scenario would double the geostrategic power of its main economic rival, whose products (and it is now bypassing the Japanese in many markets) would become even more competitive due to the low labor costs of the poor inhabitants of the North. With this development, Goldman Sachs puts South Korea in eighth place (ahead of Germany and Japan) in the ranking of the world's largest economies by 2050 year. In addition, as a result of the merger of the two Koreas, the new state would become the owner of an atomic weaponsthat would force Japan to start producing a costly nuclear arsenal (Tokyo is absolutely not eager to do this because of the economic crisis and the gradual abandonment of the peaceful atom after the Fukushima accident).

Double play USA?

Thus, some cynically-minded experts argue that the United States for a number of years turned a blind eye to North Korea, helped it create the atomic industry, and even allowed (unlike Iraq) to get hold of nuclear weapons. In their opinion, Pyongyang serves as a “useful enemy” for Washington, a threat that is a pretext for the American military presence in the south of China ... The task of such an “Asian belt” is not only to counter the North Korean threat (real danger, but at the same time time and pretext for the preservation of American bases), but also surrounded by the present geo-strategic enemy of the United States - China, which enters, together with Russia, into the Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO is an alliance against the American hegemony of the former Soviet Republics and China).

Hence the crazy theory of certain young circles about the fact that the young North Korean dictator, who was brought up in Switzerland for a long time and was noted by the North American intelligence services, is actually dancing to the whistle of his own regime's enemies ... of course, this hypothesis contradicts the current one the key task of Washington and its local allies, who are trying to convince Beijing to put pressure on Pyongyang so that the totalitarian regime abandons its nuclear strategy to create tension. Officially, in Washington, they would like to replace the existing North Korean regime with a more reasonable government, which would still remain pro-Chinese and dictatorial, but at least was ready to abandon plans for nuclear weapons in exchange for economic assistance and the lifting of international sanctions.

Nevertheless, American strategists are well aware that such an option would bring double benefit to Beijing: would avoid a world war involving China, Korea and the United States (where the axis of China - North Korea would have awaited an inevitable defeat), and also undermined the moral and strategic the rationale for the US military presence in the region ... Chinese strategists and government officials are considering a similar scenario, but Pyongyang is not too happy (Beijing is getting harder to keep it under control), and moreover Washington who He would have lost the confirmation of the legitimacy of his military presence on the Korean Peninsula.

Sophisticated game of China

On the one hand, China is interested in further protecting the North Korean ally, whom he can put serious pressure on, since Pyongyang is unable to live without barter and the help of Beijing. Even though this may seem quite incredible, the last threats to Pyongyang appeared a few weeks ago in the press. Beijing understands that the more the North Korean regime shakes its fists in front of the allies of Washington, the more it justifies the US presence and the military expansion of Japan and South Korea. And this is contrary to the strategic interests of China, which seeks to oust American forces from Asia. Beijing regards Pyongyang as a pawn in a strategic game and, despite external discontent with an uncomfortable partner, has consistently opposed really tough international sanctions that could lead to the fall of the regime in Pyongyang. China has never sought and was not interested in breaking relations with North Korea, which gives it its ports and thus provides a trade advantage over its Japanese and South Korean competitors.

In strategic terms, North Korea has become for Beijing something of a pro-Chinese outpost on the southeastern border, where there are military allies of the United States, like South Korea (there are American soldiers and marines stationed there 30 000) and neighboring Japan. In addition, an ally in Pyongyang provides Beijing with an opportunity to “shift” responsibility for the military situation in East Asia and focus on Taiwan, which is another important stumbling block in relations between the US and China. Be that as it may, today the Peking regime is primarily interested in undermining the legitimacy of America’s military presence, which, paradoxically, is provided by its uncontrolled North Korean ally ...

All this suggests the supporters of the most cynical theories that the preservation of the status quo existing for many years in this troubled part of East Asia is not so undesirable for all parties and may even be beneficial for US interests in the region (of course, that the North Korean threats will remain just words) - just as Iran’s threats against Israel and its nuclear program justify the existence of American bases in the Persian Gulf ... Anyway, you shouldn’t believe this blindly.

Alexander del Walle is a recognized geopolitician, a lecturer in international relations at the University of Metz and an employee of the newspaper France Soir.
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  1. smart ass
    smart ass April 10 2013 17: 10
    +9
    Well, the war does not start like that !!The war is always sudden! ... nothing will come of it, my opinion ... they will bring northern rice ... maybe they can throw some canned food ... and Nagodika 2 will shut up until the supplies eat up. When I eat I am DEAF AND HIM)
    1. Romch
      Romch April 10 2013 17: 19
      17
      Vasily, what kind of avatar are you frying your eggs for yourself? laughing
      1. smart ass
        smart ass April 10 2013 17: 24
        0
        AXAHA On the avatar, a girl with a bare booty)))) Judging by the priest is pretty)))
        1. Romch
          Romch April 10 2013 17: 44
          +4
          Quote: Clever man
          AXAHA On the avatar, a girl with a bare booty)))) Judging by the priest is pretty)))

          Ah, well, that changes the matter. wink
        2. evgenii67
          evgenii67 April 10 2013 17: 49
          +1
          Quote: Clever man
          Judging by the priest pretty)))

          Booty YES!
          1. tarks
            tarks April 10 2013 18: 48
            +5
            I’ll turn around ...
            1. Romch
              Romch April 10 2013 19: 12
              19
              Quote: tarks
              I’ll turn around ...

              Yeah, and there .... Vasily laughing laughing laughing
        3. gispanec
          gispanec April 10 2013 20: 32
          +3
          Quote: Clever man
          AXAHA On the avatar, a girl with a bare booty)))) Judging by the priest, pretty

          here to me, let the starper talk, as judging by the priest, we can talk about the good looks of her appearance, in particular her face))
      2. Plowing
        Plowing April 10 2013 17: 48
        -2
        Like something bad.
    2. ShturmKGB
      ShturmKGB April 10 2013 17: 44
      +3
      Everywhere the ears of the USA stick out ... oh, they will play out, play out ...
    3. patsantre
      patsantre April 10 2013 19: 46
      +2
      Quote: Clever man
      bring north rice


      Doggy soon ...
      1. APASUS
        APASUS April 10 2013 21: 45
        +1
        The fact that it is played by the United States without a water eye.
        This is an initially deferred map that the Americans raised, nurtured with their own hands for a rainy day !!
        And the day has come!
        The Pentagon is greatly reduced in funds, and the Americans strongly dislike when their wings are cut and the threat from Korea will help to knock out any money from Congress !!!
        The circuit is closed! That's why the Americans did not pay attention to the recent signals from Korea.
    4. Reasonable, 2,3
      Reasonable, 2,3 April 11 2013 00: 15
      0
      "The fall of Olympus" - look. In the end you will be poured, but you have to watch, at least from the principle.
  2. Romch
    Romch April 10 2013 17: 14
    +8
    Well, they’ll look like this, like others eat.
  3. tarks
    tarks April 10 2013 17: 15
    +3
    some cynical experts argue that the United States has not just turned a blind eye to North Korea for many years,


    I’m probably also a cynical expert. In addition, it somehow coincided that on the eve of the Internet opened, and the basketball player visited there ... Coincidence?
    And it started! The unification of the two Koreas through Mikhail Sergeevich Un.
    Plus all sorts of other goodies for jackals.
  4. Romch
    Romch April 10 2013 17: 16
    27
    You can still calm wink
    1. smart ass
      smart ass April 10 2013 17: 18
      +1
      Ahahaha !!! here's the first plus sign
    2. opkozak
      opkozak April 10 2013 17: 24
      +2
      Well, I don't believe that Eun looks like a parrot, always repeating "We will do it for you, We will do it for you!" Like so.

      The team around him is serious, uncles are held in high esteem, and remind me of old Soviet or European generals.
      1. tarks
        tarks April 10 2013 18: 46
        +3
        Perhaps Eun was promised a place as a pizza advertiser. Or the place of Gaddafi. To choose from. In addition, somehow, Eun had a vigorous bonba plus a delivery vehicle to get to. DANGER! Conspirological? But everything is the same.
        With the largest badabum, the safest place on the planet will be ... Mentally draw a diameter through the center of the Earth!
        So head ...
  5. Manager
    Manager April 10 2013 17: 17
    +6
    I wrote about the double game the other day. I have such an opinion about the "Advantageous enemy" and the further deployment of patriots and missile defense systems for a long time.
  6. svp67
    svp67 April 10 2013 17: 20
    +1
    After all these tricks, the Russian leadership should probably clarify its attitude - which Korean should it support?
    1. gispanec
      gispanec April 10 2013 20: 34
      +3
      Quote: svp67
      which of the Koreas should she support

      not to interfere and engage in YOUR defenses
  7. Volkhov
    Volkhov April 10 2013 17: 20
    -8
    North Korea can have only 1 real goal - Primorye.
    When the Syrian rebels launched another assault on Damascus, a certain commander-in-chief, flying from Africa to Muscovy, announced an alarm that could lead to the dispatch of "peacekeepers" to Syria to help the rebels ... Then Kim announced a mobilization that could lead to the cutting of a certain country across ... Then they stopped playing in the Black Sea, and the offensive on Damascus without support was blown away ... Then Eun slowed down and while he was sitting at home.
    Now the Foreign Ministers of the Eight will gather, mash, the globalists will take up the oar again and once again disperse the wave in the barrel ...
    1. tarks
      tarks April 10 2013 18: 50
      +1
      Minus you for being categorical.
      1. Volkhov
        Volkhov April 10 2013 19: 22
        +1
        This is a comment, lengthy descriptions in articles, step-by-step logic is visible in the archive of comments on this topic.
    2. MVS
      MVS April 10 2013 19: 25
      +1
      Quote: Volkhov
      North Korea can have only 1 real goal - Primorye.

      This is not a real goal, but a dream (most likely a pipe dream). There are many such dreamers, but for some reason the Far East with such "terrible" opponents is still a part of the Russian Federation, not the DPRK.
      1. krokodil25
        krokodil25 April 10 2013 19: 40
        +1
        Quote: MVS
        This is not a real goal, but a dream


        True to the coast Primorye is the real goal for the PRC.
        1. MVS
          MVS April 10 2013 19: 42
          +5
          Quote: krokodil25
          True to the coast Primorye is the real goal for the PRC.

          For the PRC, it may very well be, but not for the DPRK in any way.
          1. Volkhov
            Volkhov April 10 2013 20: 28
            +1
            It is convenient for the PRC to free Primorye after the occupation of the DPRK, and the United States would help from the air.
            Therefore, in the initial period of assistance, allies (China and NATO) may not be involved, they will join, as in the Second World War with a 2 front a little later, accordingly, Russian losses will be maximum, practically clearing the region, like Chechnya from the Slavs. Then, even if borders are maintained, Chinese dominance will be natural.
            And in order not to let Koreans in Primorye, very much will have to be changed - domestic politics, attitude to weapons, that is, to hand over 60 years ago.
            1. MVS
              MVS April 11 2013 12: 10
              0
              Quote: Volkhov
              It is convenient for the PRC to free Primorye after the occupation of the DPRK, and the United States would help from the air.
              Therefore, in the initial period of assistance, allies (China and NATO) may not be involved, they will join, as in the Second World War with a 2 front a little later, accordingly, Russian losses will be maximum, practically clearing the region, like Chechnya from the Slavs. Then, even if borders are maintained, Chinese dominance will be natural.
              And in order not to let Koreans in Primorye, very much will have to be changed - domestic politics, attitude to weapons, that is, to hand over 60 years ago.

              AND BY WHAT FORCES IS THE DPRK GOING TO CAPTURE PRIMORYE WITHOUT THE HELP OF ITS "ALLIES"? Have you thought about it?
              Quote: Volkhov
              This is a comment, lengthy descriptions in articles, step-by-step logic is visible in the archive of comments on this topic.

              Speaking of step-by-step logic: http://topwar.ru/25890-smi-uznali-o-pokupke-kitaem-24-istrebiteley-su-35.html#co
              mment-id-1021775
              There you wrote that China is our ally, the enemy of the DPRK. And now - "the main villain". So where is the logic?
              1. Volkhov
                Volkhov April 11 2013 14: 26
                0
                Quote: MVS
                There you wrote that China is our ally, the enemy of the DPRK. And now - "the main villain". So where is the logic?

                The point of view has not changed - China is an ally, but it can provide assistance with a delay, as was the case with the 2nd front in the Second World War. Then Primorye will first be occupied with the battle by the Koreans, then they will be bombed there all together, and then the Chinese, Americans and our reservists will liberate allied ... what remains there will pass for the Moon.
                The authorities have roughly the same point of view - Pu said that Chernobyl may seem like a game.
                1. MVS
                  MVS April 11 2013 18: 06
                  0
                  Quote: Volkhov
                  The point of view has not changed - China is an ally, but it can provide assistance with a delay, as was the case with the 2nd front in the Second World War. Then Primorye will first be occupied with the battle by the Koreans, then they will be bombed there all together, and then the Chinese, Americans and our reservists will liberate allied ... what remains there will pass for the Moon.
                  The authorities have roughly the same point of view - Pu said that Chernobyl may seem like a game.

                  If I understand you correctly, will the United States assist the Russian Federation? If so, then I nowhere see logic. WHY then the USA surrounds the Russian missile defense? To protect against DPRK, Venezuela, Iran, Cuba and Congo?
                  PS Do not interfere with your opinion of the government. What they think, in fact, they will never say openly, and the words of PU refer more to Koreans than to Far East. Eun promises nuclear strikes on South Korea and Guam. Most likely, GDP was talking about them.
                  1. Volkhov
                    Volkhov April 12 2013 00: 31
                    0
                    Quote: MVS
                    WHY then the USA surrounds the Russian missile defense? To protect against DPRK, Venezuela, Iran, Cuba and Congo?

                    The Reich successfully intercepts state drones and they are not sure that they completely control the strategic nuclear forces of the Russian Federation. Missiles can fall under German control, then missile defense will be needed. Americans honestly say that missile defense is not against the Russian Federation. In addition, they need at least some protection from German devices - they are suddenly lucky and be knocked down ...
                    The authorities do not tell the truth, but Pu left a double in Moscow at a meeting, and he flew away to the Far East - they say on TV that he considers logs in the taiga ... They don’t worry about that because of the ecology alone.
                    1. MVS
                      MVS April 12 2013 12: 55
                      0
                      Quote: Volkhov
                      Quote: MVS
                      WHY then the USA surrounds the Russian missile defense? To protect against DPRK, Venezuela, Iran, Cuba and Congo?

                      The Reich successfully intercepts state drones and they are not sure that they completely control the strategic nuclear forces of the Russian Federation. Missiles can fall under German control, then missile defense will be needed. Americans honestly say that missile defense is not against the Russian Federation. In addition, they need at least some protection from German devices - they are suddenly lucky and be knocked down ...
                      The authorities do not tell the truth, but Pu left a double in Moscow at a meeting, and he flew away to the Far East - they say on TV that he considers logs in the taiga ... They don’t worry about that because of the ecology alone.

                      I have already written about the "Reich" and its "invincible army". Now not 1941, look on the Internet for information about the modern German army. Well, about the strategic nuclear forces of the Russian Federation under the control of the United States and what is more, this is the first time I hear about it. And the "honesty" of the United States - no comment. The "Arab Spring" is a clear example of their "honesty" (by the way, the "honest" USA once called the USSR the "Evil Empire". Did they also tell the truth?).
  8. Drappier
    Drappier April 10 2013 17: 21
    +1
    I also thought about this, because this Eun, he is an educated person, he studied in Europe, monitors the Internet, he must really assess the chances of an army of his zombies who scatter at the first call "they give meat for free" against the army of the West, the USA and others like that. them. If he does not understand this, then he is a pompous turkey hi
    1. smart ass
      smart ass April 10 2013 17: 28
      +6
      AMBER would have been bombed with B52 burgers in the north)) and voila the question is settled))
  9. JonnyT
    JonnyT April 10 2013 17: 23
    +7
    They will finish badly ..... for example, the nerves of the South Korean border guard will not stand it, they will soak some northerner and then the mochilovo will start regardless of the "players".
    1. svp67
      svp67 April 10 2013 18: 13
      0
      There is a section of the "demilitarized" zone where such an event between special forces groups takes place every single day.
  10. waisson
    waisson April 10 2013 17: 32
    +1
    Yes, not with ... there will be nothing another grunting of iron and increased influence in the region
  11. Belo_biletnik
    Belo_biletnik April 10 2013 17: 41
    +3
    I did not understand the author contradicts himself
    "The fact is that the fall of the existing power in Pyongyang with the subsequent unification of the country would cost Seoul from $ 500 billion to $ 3 trillion, and would also seriously slow down the economic growth of the South Korean" dragon "and affect the competitiveness of its enterprises."
    and right there
    "Japan is also afraid of the North Korean enemy, which often threatened her with war, but at the same time she fears the unification of the two Koreas: such a scenario would double the geostrategic power of its main economic rival, whose products (and it is already bypassing Japanese in many markets) would become more competitive thanks to the low labor cost of the poor people in the North. "

    I think Japan, like Russia, is interested in ending the conflict. Nobody needs northerners with nuclear weapons and amers with satellites (who also hold impressive arsenals) at the border of fanatics. Nobody needs all this to start shooting and exploding. In the meantime, the conflict is so smoldering there is always a threat of war, due to the fact that the sentry on the dividing strip farted loudly.
  12. sibircat
    sibircat April 10 2013 17: 43
    0
    It looks like a storm in a glass of water, otherwise the ambassadors would have shed a long time.
  13. dmitreach
    dmitreach April 10 2013 17: 45
    +5
    I looked at the Opinion program on the Internet: the situation on the Korean Peninsula is heating up. (Presenter Evelina Zakamskaya) In the program, they gave the floor to Ariel Cohen (leading expert of the American Heritage Foundation, USA, originally from Odessa ... a very interesting person).
    Mr. Cohen sang sweetly, citing headlines in the American media. Say: America is peace-loving, poor and unhappy, going through a crisis and a sequestration of the military budget, and this, along with other adversities, and then the DPRK "threw a pig" ... Like: we did not want such unnecessary and unjustified expenses, and even moreover (!) here are the multibillion-dollar figures showing budget cuts!
    And stuff like that.

    Now I am completely puzzled by the question; if Suddenly America changes its mind to cut back on aircraft carriers or something similar in terms of costs (missile defense, for example), raising its eyes clear to the sky and sprinkling ashes on its head, will this not explain the root cause of the conflict in the DPRK circle?
    That is: The American military-industrial complex and the military are losing a large piece of bread, should they not look for ways to scare everyone and everything so that the congressmen would change their decision? The theme of test tubes with "Ariel" is now bad manners, but if the DPRK is pressed, then ... there is no better Friend for Omeriga than Eun.
    They "found each other".


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wXmygAVDXs
    Dialogue with Cohen with TS 00: 27: 50: 00.

    And then, in the Postscript, Pushkov added fuel on Saturday, focusing on not such aspects as the appearance of the Walt Disney characters in the DPRK (at children's parties), an entertainment water park and the like, as well as Un's desire to appear in public with his wife. Say: he wants to live, not die.

    http://www.tvc.ru/bcastArticle.aspx?vid=1d81da23-3d06-4796-8f62-bf1694c062b3
    Watch the report from the 15th minute.
  14. rexby63
    rexby63 April 10 2013 17: 48
    +3
    The author works out his hard bread market fortuneteller.
  15. d_trader
    d_trader April 10 2013 17: 48
    +6
    I read an article about a month ago (unfortunately I could not find a link) about the fact that the Japanese, and the article was the Japanese media, were very puzzled by the facts of night flights from American bases in Guam (like) to Pyongyang and back. And so a few nights in a row. They were outraged that they were negotiating behind us, but since the Merikos are stronger, that is, we Japs continue to be silent and everything like that. Moreover, flights were tracked through the Internet by fans who monitor the movement of aircraft. Well, then the jokes and nagging of Seoul and Pyongyang and intimidation of each other began. So where do the legs grow from there and what does all this mean? Two answers suggest itself: either there will be no war and everything is done for a third party (which one?) Or the great Eun merged his estate with giblets.
    1. ziqzaq
      ziqzaq April 10 2013 23: 41
      +1
      Quote: d_trader
      Two answers suggest itself: or there will be no war and everything is done for a third party (which?)

      Amers have a reason to deploy their missile defense in the Far East, and the whole story ...
  16. Belogor
    Belogor April 10 2013 17: 51
    0
    in short, the situation is favorable to everyone and at the same time disadvantageous. So it will be quite long.
  17. marsel1524
    marsel1524 April 10 2013 18: 24
    +1
    So-so performance, the director’s ears from the prompter's stick out, and they’ll give a ride, they will cancel the sequestration of the military budget, or they will correct it there.
  18. marsel1524
    marsel1524 April 10 2013 18: 18
    +2
    So-so performance, star-striped ears of the main screenwriter from prompter stick out! :)
  19. maestro123
    maestro123 April 10 2013 18: 49
    0
    Quote: Clever man
    AXAHA On the avatar, a girl with a bare booty)))) Judging by the priest is pretty)))

    Ha Ha, and you have her legs on the author? laughing
  20. Army1
    Army1 April 10 2013 18: 49
    0
    That joke will be if at least not in the United States but at their bases in the Asia-Pacific region. smile
  21. Army1
    Army1 April 10 2013 18: 51
    0
    That joke will be if at least not in the United States but at their bases in the Asia-Pacific region. smile
  22. maestro123
    maestro123 April 10 2013 18: 55
    +1
    Quote: RomCH
    Vasily, what kind of avatar are you frying your eggs for yourself?

    Do you have a continuation of her legs? lol
    1. Romch
      Romch April 10 2013 19: 08
      +3
      Quote: maestro123
      Do you have a continuation of her legs?

      Yes these are slippers, Siberian Reebok laughing
  23. PACIFIST
    PACIFIST April 10 2013 19: 01
    +3
    I wonder how North Korea is preparing for war, almost all the embassies warned
    the start of the war wasn’t an exact date; she put it on a missile display for refueling. They would also tell the coordinates of the targets and the time precisely
  24. Daduda
    Daduda April 10 2013 19: 07
    +1
    Here is a conspiracy theory: China and the United States agreed with the DPRK on the aggressive rhetoric of the latter, to legitimately strengthen the US military presence, followed by a joint attack on Russia.
    ))))
    1. SAR. 64.
      SAR. 64. April 10 2013 22: 02
      0
      And here I agree with this scenario. Benefits to everyone, both to the Amerikos and China. The DPRK and the territories and the Japs of the Kuril Islands will get along with Sakhalin. In short, everyone will have enough, Primorye and Siberia with all their riches. Well, it's just a bad dream))) hi
    2. UFO
      UFO April 10 2013 23: 51
      0
      It’s scary if such a crazy idea has a place to be, with correction - nobody takes into account the interests of the DPRK, well, if they take it into account, then, as a hunter, the interests of its dog. recourse
  25. maestro123
    maestro123 April 10 2013 19: 43
    +1
    Quote: Clever man
    AMBER would have been bombed with B52 burgers in the north)) and voila the question is settled))

    They don’t eat hamburgers, they eat spicy foods (there was a stink), they had a chance to ride with them on a train along the Far East, smoked, talked, they honored their leaders.
    PS And I do not advise you to lean on hamburgers wink
  26. andrejwz
    andrejwz April 10 2013 19: 48
    +4
    Well, that ended on April 10, the night in North Korea.
    I just want to remake Pierrot's song from "Buratino", putting words into Eun.
    In the lads from the south you need to be ....
    but what should I do, because you need to sleep at night.
    1. antiaircrafter
      antiaircrafter April 10 2013 21: 19
      +1
      Quote: andrejwz
      Well, that ended on April 10, the night in North Korea.

      It's got a birthday like 15. So wait for the fireworks.
  27. maestro123
    maestro123 April 10 2013 20: 10
    0
    North Korea: US double play? ABM closes the circle?
  28. svp67
    svp67 April 10 2013 20: 44
    +1
    And the leadership of the DPRK announced "the end of military training and the demobilization of reservists." So that's it, the stage of the "war of nerves" is over. Interesting. who won?
  29. Vesnik
    Vesnik April 10 2013 20: 59
    0
    I wonder what they will be fighting? What rockets run two missiles? Suicides.
    1. hrych
      hrych April 10 2013 21: 23
      +2
      The DPRK's army is comparable in size to the Russian one, a bunch of tanks, MLRS, artillery systems, etc. In addition to Tepkhodonov-2, there are a bunch of missiles with a shorter range and there is something to smudge the American "unsinkable aircraft carriers" with.
      1. Plowing
        Plowing April 10 2013 22: 58
        +2
        I don’t want to upset you, but the divine and all-destroying F-15s of the South Caucasus forces will transfer to the shit all the amusing North Korean hordes that consist of materiel from the early 70s in a matter of hours.
        1. hrych
          hrych April 11 2013 01: 19
          +4
          Yes, like the DPRK has fifteen hundred aircraft in the Air Force, of course most of them are not of the fifth generation, but there are 40 MiG-29s, and the DPRK's air defense system is one of the most saturated and deeply echeloned in the world (not my words). There is also a decent Navy. Well, the fanatics are ready for self-sacrifice as opposed to the representatives of the "consumer society". Not everything is so simple.
          1. OTAKE
            OTAKE April 11 2013 05: 59
            -3
            The MiG-29 is a plywood and not an airplane, even without modernization of modern .. Navy - just cry. Small arms UG. The same Iran is much more powerful than Korea, and has more opportunities, because the Koreans are just scumbags, and the "consumer society" took part in almost 60 conflicts after World War II and has 2 bases around the world, and has superiority in military equipment, as in quality , and in a quantitative sense. So, a vigorous Bonboy in the 850st century will not frighten anyone, they will sweep it out and will not blink an eye
            1. hrych
              hrych April 11 2013 15: 32
              +2
              Arabs in the 20th, beginning of the 21st century demonstrated that, like soldiers, they are complete crap (an example is how the Arab-Israeli wars, where they had superiority in weapons and personnel, and in modern wars where they are generally worthless). Iranians are ethnically half Europeans, and without modern weapons, they kicked Hussein's ass, armed to the teeth, both the USSR and the USA. A soldier is a discipline and patience that is not accessible to baboons. An oriental man is a different matter, he is ready to endure, to obey discipline and sacrifice himself. An example is the same Korean war, Vietnam, and the Japs really spoiled the staff mood. Not only that, the economic USA only rests on its Asian sotelites and if they are fried to plug holes in the budget there will be nothing. If the states are planning to defeat China, the Kim family will have to be left alone.
              1. OTAKE
                OTAKE April 12 2013 06: 45
                0
                In any case, the tactics of World War 2, and the technology of the same era, will not achieve great success, only people will lose immeasurably, the DPRK now poses a threat only to Japan and South Korea, but they, I doubt that they will sit back, and Yu. Koreans are well aware that they will have to be slaughtered if something happens not for life but to death, because if the Communists come there too, then the Koreans will come full star
  30. albert
    albert April 10 2013 21: 34
    +1
    Here is one North Korean poster on the subject.
  31. 1goose3
    1goose3 April 10 2013 21: 37
    +2
    Quote: svp67
    And the leadership of the DPRK announced "the end of military training and the demobilization of reservists." So that's it, the stage of the "war of nerves" is over. Interesting. who won?


    And who won in the last Polestino-Israeli bodyguard? They came out like zeros, and Israel responded to the 1000 missiles fired by the Polestinian side, worth up to $ 1000, with the same number of missiles worth 100000 each. I can't vouch for the numbers, but the principle is the same. The costs can be estimated.
    With North Korea, everything is on the same principle. In other words, this is the Iranian method of tugging a tiger with a mustache, with which constantly.
    1. sergius60
      sergius60 April 11 2013 13: 19
      +1
      The only clarification. The missiles are not one hundred thousand, but forty thousand "bucks". And so, the idea is understood correctly. hi
  32. Black
    Black April 10 2013 22: 18
    0
    The world is cruel. Especially to ordinary people. With any development of events, sooner or later, but the peninsula will be washed with blood.
  33. VadimSt
    VadimSt April 10 2013 22: 56
    +1
    Everything is like in a bazaar! Bargained, did not agree on the price and parted - this is with two "players". With a decoy, someone "third" fell for this bait, or should have fallen. It's just that all this time, the main players, including the UN Security Council, somehow relaxed their reaction to the development of the situation.
  34. lewerlin53rus
    lewerlin53rus April 10 2013 23: 38
    +1
    As an option. in the light of the last graters of China with Japan over certain islands, Beijing encouraged Pyongyang to, so to speak, reconnaissance in battle. See what and how Japs will do in the event of an attack in the region.
  35. Gorchakov
    Gorchakov April 11 2013 08: 19
    0
    Article, this is another disinformation of the Western intelligence services ...
  36. bubla5
    bubla5 April 11 2013 08: 53
    0
    They fueled one rocket and put them in a combat situation, and the whole region already spawns cavalry in the media, just another rattling of weapons to increase the military budget of some countries, possibly with the permission of the United States and China
  37. sergius60
    sergius60 April 11 2013 13: 06
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    Quote: Drapper
    who scatter at the first click "they give meat there for free"

    They made fun. Don't wishful thinking. Over the past 30 years (enough time?), There have been more than one clashes with the "special forces" of the KPA. Fuck who surrendered alive. Education, sir. It is better for the striped people to recall the "drape" in the 50s, when the TURKISH brigade held the front. Asia-s. And if we bear in mind the POSSIBILITY of the delivery of special ammunition to Seattle and Los Angeles through the "reconnaissance" channels, the detonation of heavy devices (it is difficult to make a compact ammunition ...) in the coastal zone. The wave does not bother a kilometer height? Global hysteria in the PRESENT "America" ​​is guaranteed. Well, North. Korea. The terrain is mountainous, in every gorge "bonbu" can be thrown and will not. And remember about the "specific" ideology. Whoever underestimated this factor fertilized the Russian "non-black earth" very densely.