Prospects for the emergence of Russian quantum processors

The Chairman of the Board of the Digital Economy Development Fund, German Klimenko, answering a question about Russia's successes in developing quantum processors, said that, in his opinion, statements about the prospects of such technologies are, in principle, extremely reminiscent of statements about thermonuclear reactors, which have been heard for more than twenty years, and still nothing has happened.

With a fair amount of irony, Klimenko noted that when presenting various new technologies, beautiful words like “innovation,” “nanotechnology,” “blockchain,” “artificial intelligence,” etc. play an important role. At the same time, advanced quantum processors are already being patented in Russia, which may indicate some success in the development of these technologies. However, patenting a technology does not always indicate that this technology already exists. The implementation of some ambitious projects is most likely possible only in the very distant future.

Perhaps, advanced Russian quantum processors will surpass foreign analogues in their characteristics, but it is unlikely to happen tomorrow. Despite the fact that our science has always been the most advanced in the world, the practical implementation of scientific achievements often stalls for some reason, and as a result, we have to use devices manufactured abroad based on Russian developments. For example, MRI technology was invented here, however, despite this, the domestic industry has not yet established the production of the corresponding equipment, and it has to be purchased abroad.

Klimenko also added that, having a powerful scientific base and the ability to develop the most advanced technologies, our main problem remains giving the developments a marketable appearance and bringing them to market. Meanwhile, it is quite likely that Russian quantum processors will appear in the near future.

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[Ross xnumx]

Klimenko also added that, despite having a powerful scientific base and the ability to develop the most advanced technologies, our main problem remains giving the developments a marketable appearance and bringing them to market. Meanwhile, it is quite likely that Russian quantum processors will appear in the near future...

...Immediately after the serial production of "Baikal" and the production of the first thousand domestic airliners...

[Montezuma]

Quote: ROSS 42

Immediately after the serial production of Baikal and the production of the first thousand domestic airliners.

And immediately comments appear like: "R.A.S.K.A. can't do anything, and there's nothing to expect from her."
These "true patriots" are rushing to speak out in the first rows. How can we do without their "valuable opinion"?

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: Montezuma

And immediately comments appear like: "R.A.S.K.A. can't do anything, and there's nothing to expect from her."
These "true patriots" are rushing to speak out in the first rows. How can we do without their "valuable opinion"?

And immediately comments appear from the kvass patriots, from those who are used to shouting: “Hurray-a-a-a!!!” for any reason, regardless of the results, without refuting the facts... Praising in passing, intuitively.
The question is, how is their sycophancy more valuable than the presentation of real facts?
Start refuting...It's just interesting to read...

[Luminman]

Quote: ROSS 42

...Immediately after the serial production of "Baikal" and the production of the first thousand domestic airliners...

...And tons of domestic nails...

[nikon7717]

Watched. Comments, video. Either the expert is not in the know, or he is deliberately distorting the real facts about the achievements in the field of quantum computers in Russia.
Today, the Russian Federation is among the top developers of quantum computers. Possessing all four types of quantum computers.
If someone here is going to shout about the number of qubits, then let them first find out why this is necessary and what the real productivity is with different numbers of qubits. Ours with a smaller number of qubits are close in performance to those that can have several times more.
Now the facts
State Corporation Rosatom is a global technological multidisciplinary holding company that unites assets in energy, mechanical engineering, and construction. It includes more than 450 enterprises and organizations employing about 420 thousand people. Since 2020, Rosatom has been responsible for the implementation of the roadmap (RD) for the development of the high-tech field of Quantum Computing. On an equal basis with the state, the state corporation invests its own extra-budgetary funds in the implementation of the roadmap: the total funding for 2020-2024 amounted to 24 billion rubles, of which 12 billion were invested by Rosatom. An important task of the RD was the creation of a Russian quantum computer - the project is being implemented by research teams of the Russian Quantum Center (RQC), the Lebedev Physical Institute of the Russian Academy of Sciences (LPI), the Lomonosov Moscow State University and other leading scientific centers. In 2024, within the framework of the Quantum Computer, a Russian 50-qubit quantum computer on ions was created (by scientists from the Lebedev Physical Institute and the RCC), as well as a prototype of a 50-qubit quantum computer on single neutral rubidium atoms (by scientists from Moscow State University and the RCC). An important result of the implementation of the quantum Quantum Computer is the creation of a unique team of scientists and engineers, which includes more than 1000 specialists, including about 600 scientists.

[nikon7717]

Want a real expert who has been working with quantum technologies in Russia for several years? Why didn't you ask Ekaterina Solntseva from Rosatom?
Here is part of her interview.
Work in this area began to intensify in 2019, when Rosatom became the coordinator of the quantum computing area within the framework of the agreement of intent on the development of certain high-tech areas between the Russian government and the largest state-owned companies.
In 2020, a roadmap for quantum computing was approved, which the State Corporation developed jointly with the academic community and experts. At that time, our country was lagging behind the leading countries engaged in quantum technologies: we estimated it at 7-10 years. Today, we are quickly reducing this gap: Russia, along with the United States and China, is among the three leading countries that have created quantum computers on all four platforms that are considered a priority in the world as the basis for quantum computers. These are superconductors, ions, neutral atoms and photons.

already at the second Future Technologies Forum in February 2024, quantum computers on all four technological platforms were presented to the president: atoms, two types of ion platforms - ytterbium and calcium, as well as photons and superconductors. Thus, we managed to join the number of countries demonstrating a specific result - a functioning quantum computer. Some countries have spent much more money, have more publications and registered results of intellectual activity, but they do not have functioning quantum computers. In our country, scientific research and engineering developments are interconnected and give impetus to each other's development.
– How close are we today to the practical application of quantum computers?
– In order for our country to confidently be among the leaders at the new technological level, along with research, we must ensure practical, material returns from quantum innovations. First of all, this concerns industry, which is currently looking for new sources of efficiency growth. How can this be achieved? We need to make a "quantum leap" from research to technology. The results of research provide an understanding of how something works. And technology is when you can solve a practical problem. This is the "switch" we are currently working on.

[Alexga]

What about the power of these processors? Or did I miss the point?

[Carib]

The power is still virtual, just like the processors themselves.
By the way, we had an MRI scanner made in the neighboring department of the OKB. The scientists asked for $1 to bring it to a prototype and serial production. But the doctors weren't interested. It's more interesting to buy it for $000 million, and at the same time put one in your pocket for each product. Now, probably, not all of them are alive, most of the rest have fled.

[Blackmokona]

Quote: Carib

By the way, we had an MRI scanner made in the neighboring department of the OKB. The scientists asked for $1 to bring it to a prototype and serial production. But the doctors weren't interested. It's more interesting to buy it for $000 million, and at the same time put one in your pocket for each product. Now, probably, not all of them are alive, most of the rest have fled.

So money for R&D is a non-targeted expense for the hospital and all the signatories in the hospital will be jailed for it. But the purchase of medical equipment is a targeted expense that is legal.

[Oldrover]

It sounds like a fairy tale, 1 million dollars is generally ridiculous for the launch of such a complex device as a tomograph, if only 1 million is missing, it means that they are already 99% ready and then they need to ask not doctors, but look for investors.

[Sensor]

"The Threat of Quantum Computers for Modern Cryptography and Encryption"
https://habr.com/ru/articles/788590/
Popular article on quantum computing.
If it seems complicated, the bottom line is this.
The number of tasks in which the QC has an advantage is extremely limited.
The result obtained is probabilistic in nature, but it can be refined by increasing the number of qubits accompanied by an exponential increase in the probability of failure.
The main direction in which the CC will be used is hacking codes, and this is not only encrypted communication, but also access to digital money.

[gridasov]

It is worth repeating that the QC still works on binary logic - ON-OFF. And the linear recording of the code algorithms remains. And it is unlikely that one can hope that anyone will understand that it is possible to reproduce the value of the Number of the natural series by an electromagnetic pulse. Such a multipolar transistor is only one of the elements of the system support for a breakthrough in working with super large data. In this case, the possibility of radial recording of the code and compliance with the Number arises.

[NIKN]

Quote: Sensor

The number of tasks in which the QC has an advantage is extremely limited.
The result obtained is probabilistic in nature, but it can be refined by increasing the number of qubits accompanied by an exponential increase in the probability of failure.

Well, it's interesting here and not entirely clear from the usual point of view. When solving a problem, a quantum computer gives all possible results at once (this is what ensures its incredible speed), but on the other hand, I can do it too, and how to single out the only correct, or several correct acceptable options from everything, I suppose this is already the task of the operating system..., well, and then everyone according to their imagination

[Sensor]

are reminiscent of the statements about thermonuclear reactors that have been made for more than twenty years

Lev Andreevich Artsimovich has been the permanent leader of research in high-temperature plasma physics and the problem of controlled thermonuclear fusion since 1951. Under Artsimovich's leadership, a thermonuclear reaction was first achieved in a laboratory setting. He was awarded the Stalin Prize, 1st degree (1953), the Lenin Prize (1958), and the USSR State Prize (1971). Wiki.

So not twenty years, but almost 75.
By the way, the academician had a sense of humor

Scientists starting work in the field of thermonuclear fusion and encountering plasma instability are in much the same position as a person trying to ride a unicycle for the first time, even though he has never seen a regular bicycle before.

Academician L.A. Artsimovich gave the following definition of science: (magazine “Novy Mir”, No. 1, 1967): “Science is the best modern way of satisfying the curiosity of individuals at the expense of the state.”

Jinxed it in his own direction.

[gridasov]

Plasma is a breakdown or closure of an electromagnetic circuit. Including spatial circuits. Therefore, stupidity is based on a misunderstanding of what is being done and what is meant by a thermonuclear reaction. The same thing happens with AI. Many do not understand that AI is, first of all, mathematics and a method for distributing super-big data. Which, by the way, is completely absent in modern AI.

[Paranoid62]

Quote: gridasov

AI is, first of all, mathematics and a method of distributing super-big data. Which, by the way, is completely absent in modern AI

Quote: gridasov

To create a perfectly efficient propulsion system and not only for hypervelocity speeds relative to its movement in any environment, it is necessary to harmonize the entire algorithm of magnetic force interactions. Therefore, mistakes come from not knowing the fundamental principles of understanding , what is space and the laws of transformation of structures formed by it and according to the algorithm for converting these changes

Chetarju

[gridasov]

And YOU wanted everything at once and in a worker-peasant manner. Alas.

[Sensor]

Plasma is a breakdown or short circuit of an electromagnetic circuit.

And here is what is written in the five-volume "Physical Encyclopedia"
PLASMA (from the Greek plasma, literally - molded, formed) - partially or completely ionized gas, in which the densities of positive and negative charges are practically equal.


Sorry, I'm not interested in alternative physics.

[gridasov]

Okay, everyone already knows that plasma behaves as a continuous medium in a turbulent flow. By the way, in space too. And there are quite a few methods for creating plasma breakdowns. But I'm talking about the method of initiating a plasma breakdown from a kinetic flow, which is relevant for space and aviation.

[TsShVS]

In Russia everything is possible, but not under the current government. It is not a creator.

[Pablo Blade]

Well, one would think that you have a creative government in Ukraine.

[VasAndr]

our science has always been the most advanced in the world

It is difficult to agree that it always has. A highly dubious assertion. It is closest to the period of Soviet power. And after that - the word "was" is correct. Which means - now it is not progressive at all. Like almost everything in the modern Russian Federation.

[t7310]

Does the picture accompanying the article make any sense?

[barbos]

We've had something like this before. Relatively recently by historical standards. It was called Nanotechnology, who forgot. The author of the article, when he molded it with the help of AI, forgot to clarify what quantum computers are needed for and that they are not even theoretically comparable to AI.