"Suitcase, station - Russia!"

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"Suitcase, station - Russia!"
Mikhail Gorbachev during his speech at the 1990th Congress of the CPSU in the Kremlin Palace of Congresses, XNUMX


The disintegration of the political system


In 1988, the first mass political organizations with anti-Soviet and anti-Union programs were formed in the USSR – the “People’s Fronts” in the Baltic republics (Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania). They were created with the support of the leadership of the CPSU Central Committee and initially declared the defense of “glasnost”. But they quickly moved on to radical slogans, first economic (republican business accounting), and then political separatism.



Thus, the dismantling of the USSR was carried out from the very top. It was the so-called "revolution from above", in the interests of the central and local nomenklatura, the elite, who wanted to preserve their position, power and obtain property. This counter-revolution was supported by the intelligentsia, who wanted freedom, "European integration", and the "shadow people" - the criminal layers (How the Soviet Union was broken).

The anti-Soviet opposition at the First Congress of People's Deputies (May - June 1989) created its own organization - the Interregional Deputy Group (IDG). Co-chairs of the group: A. D. Sakharov, B. N. Yeltsin, Yu. N. Afanasyev, G. Kh. Popov, V. Palm. The opposition immediately entered into an alliance with local separatists.

Everything happened openly, that is, if the Kremlin wanted, it could easily cover it all up, put the leaders and activists in jail. The problem was that liberalization (glasnost) came from the very top.

The MDG put forward two main demands: 1) the abolition of Article 6 of the USSR Constitution (on the leading role of the Communist Party); 2) the legalization of strikes. The slogan "All power to the Soviets!" was also put forward as a means of undermining the power of the Communist Party. Later, the Soviets were also dispersed.

The opposition, which after Sakharov’s death was headed by Yeltsin for the duration of the Congress, was unable to push through the issue of repealing Article 6 at the Second Congress of People’s Deputies (December 1989).

At the Third Congress (March 1990), the Communist Party itself, following the decision of the plenum of the Central Committee of the CPSU held the day before, introduced into the draft the "Law of the USSR on Amendments and Supplements to the Constitution of the USSR on Issues of the Political System (Articles 6 and 7 of the Constitution of the USSR)." The abolition of Article 6 was packaged in one package with the decision to introduce the post of President of the USSR. The obedient majority of the Congress adopted the law, according to which the mention of the leading role of the CPSU was excluded from Article 6. This took the core out of the entire political system of the state.

On March 14, a plenum of the Central Committee of the CPSU was held, which nominated Gorbachev as a candidate for president. Prime Minister Nikolai Ryzhkov and Minister of Internal Affairs Vadim Bakatin were also nominated, but they refused to run, and the elections were uncontested. On March 15, 1990, Gorbachev was elected the first President of the USSR by an uncontested vote at the Congress.

The President of the USSR (who was also the General Secretary of the CPSU) got out of the party's control. The Politburo and the Central Committee were almost immediately removed from the country's political life. This freed the republican and local elites from party control. The state apparatus became a complex conglomerate of cooperating or competing, struggling groups and clans.

The legalization of strikes provided a powerful tool for influencing, blackmailing the central government and supporting the political demands of the opposition and separatists. In particular, the leaders of the MDG directly called on the Kuzbass miners to strike. Such strikes played a major role in undermining the Soviet state.

In early 1990, the radical movement "Democratic Russia" (Democrats) was formed. It based its ideology on anti-communism, anti-Sovietism, and liberal democracy.

Interestingly, In the area of ​​state building, the "democrats" put forward the idea of ​​a strong authoritarian government, often with direct praise for authoritarianism and the dictatorship of the executive branch (they loved the Pinochet regime, that is, the Latin American dictators). In their opinion, a strong authoritarian-oligarchic government should suppress the communists, the leftists, and the "unconscious" people.

The second type of anti-Soviet and anti-Union movements were various nationalist organizations. They prepared the ground for conflict with the union center and national minorities within the republics.

For the Russians, who actually created the scientific, cultural, educational and industrial potential of the national republics (and the statehood itself), this meant the slogans "Suitcase, station - Russia", "Russian - go to your Russia!" Plus all the "joys" of the surge of "national consciousness" - the confiscation of property, apartments, open robbery, beatings, abuse, rape and murder. The remaining Russians quickly became second-class citizens in most of the national republics.

The conservative, communist opposition, lacking support and a go-ahead from above, neither in the authorities, nor in the CPSU (19 million people), nor in the security forces, was unable to organize. People brought up in the Soviet system were unable to overcome the psychological barrier and openly speak out for the preservation of the Union.

It turned out to be much easier to destroy than to preserve and create.


Andrei Sakharov and US President Ronald Reagan, 1988

Pogrom of security forces


The "cleansing" of the Armed Forces and law enforcement agencies of the USSR began under Andropov, who actually created the project of "perestroika" of the Red Empire. Andropov planned not to destroy the Union, but to modernize it, to rebuild it for the purpose of convergence-rapprochement with the capitalist, Western system (Andropov's plan and its failure).

Under Gorbachev, this was no longer a hidden, soft “purge,” but a pogrom of the power institutions of the Soviet state. It all began with a harsh ideological and informational campaign against the KGB, the Ministry of Internal Affairs and the Soviet Army. Denigration and discreditation. The shortcomings and mistakes inherent in any government bodies and institutions, both in the West and in the USSR, were highlighted and exaggerated.

The "siloviki" were the most conservative part of Soviet society, so the ideologists of perestroika tried to psychologically disarm and suppress them. The positive image of the Soviet soldier and officer, policeman, intelligence officer was destroyed. The officer corps was denigrated so that it would not speak out against the collapse of the state. All the generals were portrayed as thieves, the officers as drunkards and slackers, the soldiers as victims, etc.

There was a "cleansing" of the security forces from those people who could prevent the destruction of the USSR. Various pretexts and provocations were used for this. For example, on May 28, 1987 (on the Day of the Border Troops of the USSR), the German amateur pilot Matthias Rust flew a light aircraft from Hamburg via Reykjavik and Helsinki to Moscow and landed on the Bolshoy Moskvoretsky Bridge, having flown more than a thousand kilometers without any obstacles.

Defense was flying the plane and could have shot it down, but there was no order. In Soviet newspapers, Rust's flight was presented as a failure of the air defense system and the entire army. Gorbachev used this pretext to destroy the Ministry of Defense and the air defense.

"Democratization" had a great destructive effect on the army - assertion of the priority of democratic ideals over military discipline. The idea that the military should not carry out orders that go against "universal human values" was actively introduced into the army. Even the highest commanders of the Ministry of Defense were forced to make such statements.

In essence, it was repeated story with the democratization of the army of 1917, after the abdication of Nicholas II and the victory of the Februaryist revolutionaries. As a result, the army was disintegrated, the front collapsed. The officers scattered to the armies of the new "independent" republics, then joined the White armies, the Red Army, and began to hack each other.


Another example of a repetition of the events of 1917 - preparation for the dismemberment of the Soviet Army along national lines. Requirements for conscripts to serve only in their own republics, promotion of national personnel and creation of national units.

The army was also negatively affected by Moscow's political capitulation in the Third World War (the Cold War). Various projects for large-scale disarmament and reduction of armed forces. The withdrawal of troops from Afghanistan. The liquidation of the Warsaw Pact and the withdrawal of Soviet troops from Eastern Europe and Mongolia. The conversion of the military-industrial complex, which resulted in its destruction. The growing economic crisis, which made it difficult to supply and reorganize the army, worsened the situation of the officer corps, including dismissed officers.

Plus political and interethnic conflicts, in which the army was drawn in, in which a split also began along political or national lines.

At the same time, the military leadership and generals were excluded from participation in the adoption of the most important military-political issues. Thus, Gorbachev's decisions in January 1986 on the program of nuclear disarmament of the USSR within 15 years were a complete surprise for the military.

In 1986, an interdepartmental commission on disarmament was formed – the “big five” of the heads of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, the Ministry of Defense, the KGB, the military-industrial commission of the Council of Ministers and the CPSU. The conflict in it was growing, since the agreements with the Americans on disarmament were not only not coordinated, but were not even brought to the commission.

In fact, Foreign Minister Shevardnadze simply surrendered the interests of the Soviet Union. It was a unilateral capitulation. Therefore, the commission was simply liquidated to stop the noise.

Law enforcement agencies are seeing first punitive units, typical for capitalist countries. In 1987, the Department of Internal Affairs formed special police units (OMON), designed to maintain public order during mass events. In 1989, the police adopted a rubber truncheon, which had an important symbolic meaning. People's power, even with restrictions, came to an end.

In 1989-1991, there was a change in all law enforcement agencies that was little noticeable to society, but important. The exodus of most of the skilled personnel from the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the KGB, the court and the prosecutor's office. There were two main reasons. The first was the loss of status, strong pressure from the media, discrediting and denigrating law enforcement agencies. The second was a rapid relative decrease in wages, which, within the framework of a socialist state, could not be compensated for by side, "shadow" earnings.

This exodus of qualified personnel continued after the collapse of the USSR. But then the security forces were already leaving for business, organized crime groups and new private security structures.


The Baltic Way (Baltic Chain) was a peaceful action in the Baltic republics of the USSR, held on August 23, 1989. Residents of Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia formed a human chain about 670 km long (up to two million people, or about 25% of the population of the three Baltic republics at the time), thus connecting Tallinn, Riga and Vilnius. The action was timed to coincide with the 50th anniversary of the signing of the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact, the goal of the action was to draw the attention of the world community to the historical events that changed the status of the Baltic countries. The action demonstrated the growing confidence of the forces fighting for the restoration of independence of the Baltic countries. The organizers were the Popular Front of Estonia, the Popular Front of Latvia and the Sąjūdis (Lithuanian Movement) in Lithuania
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  1. + 20
    19 June 2025 03: 01
    various nationalist organizations. They prepared the ground for conflict with the union center and national minorities within the republics.

    We see the same thing now, the whole difference is that it is already inside Russia, and these organizations (diasporas) are planted from the outside and against the indigenous majority, namely Russians and other peoples of Russia. And it is also covered from the center.
    1. + 21
      19 June 2025 03: 56
      Quote: Vladimir_2U
      And it is also covered from the center.

      And this is such a time bomb that when it explodes, it will be a real pain.
      1. + 15
        19 June 2025 04: 43
        Quote: Uncle Lee
        And this is such a time bomb
        I will only add that this mine is ethnic and religious and the effect of which will be much more serious than that of a simple landmine.
        1. +8
          19 June 2025 07: 40
          With migrants, especially when covering up illegal ones, there can always be a risk of external influence. Values ​​and culture are different, lack of patriotism (where in a foreign country?), ambitions, unity (the crowd effect, fear of foreign lands) and, finally, religion. Here is the sequence, but for some reason, everything is emphasized the other way around. Thus, an internal conflict of peoples on religious grounds is unleashed, and then it will come to racial ones. In the article about this, "Russian-suitcase-train station". Now it is being wound back, perhaps intentionally, to "migrant-suitcase-train station". It cannot be said that it is not unfounded. But it is one thing to flaunt, to let people in, "let's talk". Which increases the intensity of hostility, anger and can lead to pogroms. And on both sides, i.e. some violations by migrants have signs of revenge, retaliatory actions. And the owners of the house should worry about fires and take control of their own safety. Something to do secretly, but quickly. By law enforcement and the migration service. But why can't we cope - that's the main question. Demography?
          1. man
            +6
            19 June 2025 09: 26
            The article is about this "Russian-suitcase-station".
            This slogan, at least before the collapse of the USSR, was only in the Baltics.
            The rest were busy squabbling among themselves and vice versa, trying to pull the Russians over to their side, I remember. So the author is not telling the truth.
            1. +2
              19 June 2025 10: 24
              Quote: mann
              The rest were busy squabbling among themselves and vice versa, trying to pull the Russians over to their side, I remember. So the author is not telling the truth.

              No, what showdowns between Tajiks and Tajiks, for example? So "Suitcase, Russia station" is nothing, because in the mono-ethnic republics there was also "Russians, stay, we need slaves"...
              1. man
                +5
                19 June 2025 18: 45
                Quote: Vladimir_2U
                Quote: mann
                The rest were busy squabbling among themselves and vice versa, trying to pull the Russians over to their side, I remember. So the author is not telling the truth.

                No, what showdowns between Tajiks and Tajiks, for example? So "Suitcase, Russia station" is nothing, because in the mono-ethnic republics there was also "Russians, stay, we need slaves"...

                You won't believe it, but Tajikistan and Georgia (!) were the only republics of the former USSR where there were civil wars between their own. In Georgia, this is in addition to the wars with South Ossetia and Abkhazia. And I already talked about the civil war in Tajikistan a little lower in response to Olgovich, for some reason I did not receive information about your message request Well, I noticed your request myself...
                1. +1
                  20 June 2025 02: 51
                  Quote: mann
                  You won’t believe it, but Tajikistan and Georgia (!) were the only republics of the former USSR where there were civil wars between their own.

                  This did not stop the Tajiks from killing Russians, firstly, and secondly, their citizenship began after the collapse of the Union.
                  1. man
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                    20 June 2025 09: 07
                    Quote: Vladimir_2U
                    Quote: mann
                    You won’t believe it, but Tajikistan and Georgia (!) were the only republics of the former USSR where there were civil wars between their own.

                    This did not stop the Tajiks from killing Russians, firstly, and secondly, their citizenship began after the collapse of the Union.

                    In my response to Olgovich below I said exactly this, exactly the same:
                    There was a real civil war in Tajikistan, but it also broke out after the collapse of the USSR. Supporters of secular power clashed with Islamists. Our base stood up for the secularists, which caused, to put it mildly, discontent among the Islamists. Indeed, Russians and Russian-speaking people in general, including Tajiks, got it. War... Of course, Yeltsin should have ordered our people to take Russians under protection before standing up for the secularists, but when we thought about ordinary people...
                    1. +1
                      20 June 2025 09: 13
                      Quote: mann
                      There was a real civil war in Tajikistan, but it also broke out after the collapse of the USSR.

                      You won’t believe it, but they started killing Russians before the clashes began, even before the Islamists started speaking out.
                      Quote: mann
                      This slogan, at least until the collapse of the USSR, was only in the Baltics.
                      The rest were busy squabbling among themselves and, vice versa, trying to win the Russians over to their side.

                      And it doesn’t matter, Tajiks, Uzbeks, well, I forgot about the “Vovchiks” - until 92, Tajiks didn’t really divide among themselves.
                      1. man
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                        20 June 2025 09: 21
                        You won’t believe it, but they started killing Russians before the clashes began, even before the Islamists started speaking out.
                        I didn't know... can you give me any link... I couldn't find it on the internet request But I'm sure they weren't "secular" Tajiks... they themselves were Russian speakers. More likely Islamists or ordinary criminals...
                      2. +4
                        20 June 2025 09: 26
                        Quote: mann
                        I didn't know... can you give me any link... on the internet? Have not found

                        Is this a joke? Just type in Murders of Russians in Tajikistan...
                        https://pikabu.ru/story/tadzhikistan_1990e_proshli_pogromyi_russkikh_kvartalov_8632643?ysclid=mc4fde2j5s721330879
                        The local authorities did NOTHING to protect the Russians.
                      3. man
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                        20 June 2025 09: 40
                        Quote: Vladimir_2U
                        Quote: mann
                        I didn't know... can you give me any link... on the internet? Have not found

                        Is this a joke? Just type in Murders of Russians in Tajikistan...
                        https://pikabu.ru/story/tadzhikistan_1990e_proshli_pogromyi_russkikh_kvartalov_8632643?ysclid=mc4fde2j5s721330879
                        The local authorities did NOTHING to protect the Russians.

                        Wow.... sad My apologies... how did I manage to miss... what did I type into the search engine... excuse me, for God's sake...
                      4. +6
                        20 June 2025 16: 32
                        At our work there are two Russian families who fled from Kyrgyzstan and Uzbekistan in the early 90s. They left with only bags and documents, leaving EVERYTHING behind. Apartments with furniture and belongings, cars in garages, equipment, they left everything behind. Otherwise death. What other evidence do you need on the Internet? Russians were slaughtered like dogs, girls and women were raped in a circle, there are tons of eyewitness videos on the Internet. And now the children and grandchildren of those scumbags have come to Russia to suck the juices out of it, wear niqabs and slaughter sheep in the courtyards on holidays.
                      5. man
                        +1
                        20 June 2025 17: 38
                        Uzbeks and Kyrgyz? They constantly clash with each other... it almost came to a full-fledged war....
                      6. 0
                        20 June 2025 17: 49
                        Russian families. One fled from Kyrgyzstan, the other from Uzbekistan.
                2. +1
                  1 November 2025 23: 31
                  Yes, yes, the "Vovchiks" and "Yurchiks" (Pamirians and Kulyabians) were happily exterminating each other, taking breaks for a screening of "Simply Maria." Of course, they wrote about the secular authorities and Islamists, but it seems to me the conflict is about simple control of drug trafficking from Afghanistan—that is, big money.
            2. +6
              19 June 2025 10: 40
              Quote: mann
              The article is about this "Russian-suitcase-station".
              This slogan, at least before the collapse of the USSR, was only in the Baltics.

              This didn't affect you, that's why you don't know: Western Ukraine, Moldova, in Tajikistan they generally slaughtered and raped Russians, etc., until the collapse of the USSR.
              1. man
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                19 June 2025 18: 24
                Quote: Olgovich
                Quote: mann
                The article is about this "Russian-suitcase-station".
                This slogan, at least before the collapse of the USSR, was only in the Baltics.

                This didn't affect you, that's why you don't know: Western Ukraine, Moldova, in Tajikistan they generally slaughtered and raped Russians, etc., until the collapse of the USSR.

                I knew a Russian graduate student from Lvov, I asked her, nothing like that even came close to happening before the collapse.
                In Moldova there was a clash with the police near Snegur in Transnistria, three were killed and wounded. The main events took place after the collapse of the USSR.... Lebed, to his credit, quickly put it out.
                There was a real civil war in Tajikistan, but it also broke out after the collapse of the USSR. Supporters of secular power clashed with Islamists. Our base stood up for the secularists, which caused, to put it mildly, discontent among the Islamists. Indeed, Russians and Russian-speaking people in general, including Tajiks, got it. War... Of course, Yeltsin should have ordered our people to take Russians under protection before standing up for the secularists, but when we thought about ordinary people...
                1. -2
                  20 June 2025 09: 52
                  You weren't there then and don't know anything, unfortunately.

                  You need a book to study "In an ethnic war"-there is also about Dushanbe, Moldova, Kazakhstan, Baku, etc.

                  BEFORE the collapse of the union in 1991, almost two years:
                  «12 February 1990 year, Monday. A few minutes ago the working day ended. I am running with my wife along Ayni Street. It is rush hour, but the street is absolutely deserted - not a single car on the pavement, not a single passerby on the sidewalks. Behind us, a kilometer away, is Lenin Avenue, along which a huge, mindless crowd is rushing towards the railway station, smashing and sweeping away everything in its path. Any minute now it will spill out onto the intersection and it is unknown which way it will turn next.

                  We have to hurry - at home (or is it home?) we have a teenage daughter and a son - a student at a Kyiv university, who arrived for the holidays a few days ago with no luck. Fear for them drives us on, and we run as fast as we can. After running a few kilometers, we sigh with relief. The children are home. And the next day, the stretch of road near the textile factory turned into hell. Gangs of Islamic fundamentalists blocked the highway. They pulled Russian women out of buses and trolleybuses arriving from both sides and raped them right there at the bus stops and on the football field by the road, and brutally beat the men.

                  Anti-Russian pogroms swept across the city. "Tajikistan for Tajiks!" and "Russians, get out to your Russia!" were the main slogans of the pogromists.Russians were robbed, raped and killed even in their own apartments. Children were not spared either.
                  They created "states" in 1917-1940 and now
                  1. man
                    +1
                    20 June 2025 10: 20
                    I already know about 1990... I have no idea how I managed to miss it... I apologize...
                    You weren't there then and don't know anything, unfortunately.
                    I've almost never been there... maybe in the early 60s with my parents, when my father was still serving, during his vacation... we were somewhere... I saw an old woman in black and started screaming in horror: "Mom, look, Baba Yaga!!!" I remember my mother got scared... she started spanking me, but I didn't calm down... the old woman looked at me... and suddenly smiled... I realized that Baba Yaga was kind and calmed down. But it could have been Tatarstan or Bashkiria... This explains why I don't feel threatened by women in black... until now...
                  2. 0
                    20 June 2025 20: 00
                    They created "states" in 1917-1940 and now

                    Yeah. And why were Russians slaughtered, robbed and raped in Central Asia in 1916? Are the Bolsheviks also to blame?
                    1. -3
                      22 June 2025 06: 56
                      Quote: Redoubt
                      Yeah. And in 1916, why were Russians slaughtered, robbed and raped in Central Asia?

                      Yeah, the bandits were punished 2 orders of magnitude more , the lands were confiscated, there was a massive settlement of Russians in Asia and the Caucasus, which became more and more Russian, turning them into RUSSIA. And yes, there was a WORLD WAR.

                      What happened to the world war in ..1990? How were the bandits punished? No way - these nationalist bandits were in power - in the mono-ethnic national states created by the Russophobe Bolsheviks and raised by them, where Russian hostages were fed to the nationalists
                      1. -1
                        25 June 2025 15: 32
                        Yeah, the bandits were punished 2 orders of magnitude more, their lands were confiscated, there was a mass settlement of Russians in Asia, the Caucasus, which became more and more Russian, turning them into RUSSIA. And yes, there was a WORLD WAR.

                        This is exactly what the Reds did after 1917.
                        What happened to the world war in ..1990? How were the bandits punished? No way - these nationalist bandits were in power - in the mono-ethnic national states created by the Russophobe Bolsheviks and raised by them, where Russian hostages were fed to the nationalists

                        You have a semantic error in every word of this thesis. And too many emotions.
                        By the way, during the Second World War, these republics accepted evacuees from Russia and helped them as much as they could. And fought for them. This was under the Bolsheviks.
              2. 0
                19 June 2025 18: 33
                west ukraine, moldova, tajikistan

                In fact, Russians were squeezed out of all the union republics. A married couple, classmates from Agudzera (Abkhazia), were evacuated standing up in a plane, with only what they could carry in their hands. Another family I know was drinking from Kazakhstan, and they didn’t want to remember how and what. The family moved from the capital of Moldova to a provincial Russian city.
                1. -1
                  20 June 2025 10: 03
                  Quote: Sensor
                  In fact, Russians were squeezed out of all the union republics.

                  Of course, but at least they didn't kill everywhere...
      2. +5
        19 June 2025 07: 01
        In the first 100 days, Trump expelled 95% of illegals from the US. These were the reports. And the current riots and arson --- that's 5%. It's very instructive for our people at the top to watch and think. Vladimir Vladimirovich hi
        1. man
          +1
          19 June 2025 08: 10
          Quote: Reptiloid
          In the first 100 days, Trump expelled 95% of illegals from the US. These were the reports. And the current riots and arson --- that's 5%. It's very instructive for our people at the top to watch and think. Vladimir Vladimirovich hi

          When Trump came to power, there were 15 million illegals in the US. So Trump expelled more than 14? laughing
          1. +1
            19 June 2025 08: 18
            The messages on our video resources are different. As well as on foreign ones. For example, there was a citation of the accusatory speech of the President of Mexico. laughing lol tougher than the Tajiks and Uzbeks make claims against ours. She said that there are 40 million Mexicans in the US. That's all. Some illegals. No matter how much I tried to find out the numbers online, I couldn't. But there are migrants from other countries there too.
            1. man
              +2
              19 June 2025 08: 20
              Quote: Reptiloid
              The messages on our video resources are different. As well as on foreign ones. For example, there was a citation of the accusatory speech of the President of Mexico. laughing lol tougher than the Tajiks and Uzbeks make claims against ours. She said that there are 40 million Mexicans in the US. That's all. Some illegals. No matter how much I tried to find out the numbers online, I couldn't. But there are migrants from other countries there too.

              The most common figure is 6 million Mexican illegals alone.
              1. +2
                19 June 2025 08: 28
                In any case, 95% was mentioned in our news. Moreover, groups of militants with skills in arson, fighting the police, and other methods appeared.
                It is interesting that the same Mexicans categorically do not allow migrants from other countries to enter their country. In the States, illegals allegedly worked in underground factories, they were exploited. And here they hang around the streets, migrants receive apartments and benefits from the Russian Federation.
                1. man
                  +1
                  19 June 2025 08: 37
                  In any case, 95% was mentioned in our news.
                  But you understand that it is impossible to expel millions in such a short period of time. smile
                  1. +1
                    19 June 2025 09: 00
                    Quote: mann
                    ......But you understand that it is impossible to expel millions in such a short period of time. smile

                    laughing wink as was said
                    Trump will come ---- he will restore order

                    Who knows them recourse in any case, many whites now hate him and protect migrants. But despite the fights, the police have not killed anyone yet. Unlike the French and the yellow vests
                    1. man
                      +1
                      19 June 2025 09: 10
                      Who knows, recourse, in any case, many white people now hate him and protect migrants.
                      Seriously? It seems like the majority are for Trump... probably the Democrats..
                      1. +1
                        19 June 2025 09: 11
                        It's the Democrats who are against Trump, especially in California.
                      2. man
                        +1
                        19 June 2025 09: 13
                        Quote: Reptiloid
                        Democrats are against it. Especially in California.

                        Of course, that's what I meant, but I expressed it incorrectly. smile Thank you hi
                2. man
                  0
                  19 June 2025 09: 04
                  In the States, illegals allegedly worked in underground factories, they were exploited. And here they hang around the streets, migrants receive apartments and benefits from the Russian Federation
                  You see, in recent years I've only left home once or twice a month, so I can only judge the scale of the problems from the Internet and my memories. It's clear that the Internet is full of negativity, it would be interesting to hear the other side. The truth is usually in the middle... but migrants don't write on the Internet...
                  1. 0
                    19 June 2025 09: 22
                    You know what? At one time, I was constantly seeing migrants' indignation about checks on the Internet, just like them. I'll take a look, maybe I'll see it, I'll write to you then. Or about the queues for patents... there was something somewhere just now that they were indignant that Russians were obliged, but they didn't open it. We don't even have to go out. It's visible. From the balcony. Sometimes the wrapped-up ones are huddled together on the playground. Sometimes the bearded ones, about 6 people, gathered in a circle and discussed it for an hour during the day. Why aren't they working?
                    1. man
                      -1
                      19 June 2025 10: 01
                      Quote: Reptiloid
                      You know what? At one time, I was constantly seeing migrants' indignation about checks on the Internet, just like them. I'll take a look, maybe I'll see it, I'll write to you then. Or about the queues for patents... there was something somewhere just now that they were indignant that Russians were obliged, but they didn't open it. We don't even have to go out. It's visible. From the balcony. Sometimes the wrapped-up ones are huddled together on the playground. Sometimes the bearded ones, about 6 people, gathered in a circle and discussed it for an hour during the day. Why aren't they working?

                      I have already explained that I am a complete layman in modern reality. request smile What can I say... I think that migration, if it exists, should be dosed, and in no case should a “ghetto” be created, migrants should not live next to migrants, I hope there is no need to explain why.
                      And also... after the start of the SVO, the travel agency where my wife works wisely began to develop domestic tourism and in the CIS countries. Surprisingly, in Uzbekistan we almost never met women in "uniform" smile True, they were only in the big cities of Tashkent, Samarkand, Bukhara...maybe there are some like that in the villages
                      1. +2
                        19 June 2025 10: 51
                        Quote: mann
                        .......you know what? In Uzbekistan, we almost never met women in "uniform" smile True, they were only in the big cities of Tashkent, Samarkand, Bukhara...maybe there are some like that in the villages

                        There was this about this ---- bearded to the eyes and wrapped up, these are Wahhabis, radical Islam. This is prohibited in the republics of the Central Asian region and, it seems, in some of ours
                        Muslims. And we don't have this ban in our country. So they come to us as destabilization. Although, they tried to ban it, but it didn't work
                      2. man
                        +2
                        19 June 2025 18: 28
                        Quote: Reptiloid
                        Quote: mann
                        .......you know what? In Uzbekistan, we almost never met women in "uniform" smile True, they were only in the big cities of Tashkent, Samarkand, Bukhara...maybe there are some like that in the villages

                        There was this about this ---- bearded to the eyes and wrapped up, these are Wahhabis, radical Islam. This is prohibited in the republics of the Central Asian region and, it seems, in some of ours
                        Muslims. And we don't have this ban in our country. So they come to us as destabilization. Although, they tried to ban it, but it didn't work

                        That's why the Asians succeeded, but ours didn't... it's a mystery... request
                      3. 0
                        19 June 2025 18: 50
                        This is not a riddle, but machinations and deliberate sabotage. We have been trying to ban since the beginning of the century. And there are high-ranking officials who have reasons for infringement, inadmissibility.
                    2. man
                      0
                      19 June 2025 10: 14
                      Thank you, I expressed myself incorrectly again request smile It would be interesting to listen to representatives of the Central Asian peoples here at VO, the people here are more objective and literate
                      Sorry, I have to work... hi
                  2. +3
                    19 June 2025 12: 38
                    Quote: mann
                    It is clear that the Internet is full of negativity, it would be interesting to hear the other side. The truth is usually in the middle... but migrants do not write on the Internet...

                    Stateless persons and foreigners commit approximately 45 belay crimes per year (1/3 of which are forgery of residence documents) out of a total of 980 crimes belay
                    About 5% of crimes.
                    The rest are locals, of all nationalities and stripes.
                    It's just migrants гарантированный hype and likes, locals never like strangers anywhere.

                    Z. Y.
                    Search the internet for "Women of Kabul 1960-1970" - you will be shocked by how much short Miniskirts were worn there before the troops were sent to Afghanistan. It was not even shorter than in Paris, it was a completely secular city
                    And then - with the arrival of strangers - the women's faces were covered. Just in case...
                    1. +4
                      19 June 2025 13: 13
                      Quote: your1970
                      Stateless persons and foreigners commit approximately 45 crimes per year (000/1 of which is forgery of residence documents) out of a total of 3 crimes
                      About 5% of crimes.

                      and how would you evaluate the migrants who have already received citizenship, are they legal? maybe 5% are illegal... but there aren't many of them, illegal... most of them are legalized, but they aren't taken into account... just like you... and what percentage are there among the criminals with acquired citizenship- silence everywhere... I wonder why?
                      1. +1
                        19 June 2025 13: 34
                        Quote: 2 level advisor
                        Quote: your1970
                        Stateless persons and foreigners commit approximately 45 crimes per year (000/1 of which is forgery of residence documents) out of a total of 3 crimes
                        About 5% of crimes.

                        and how would you evaluate the migrants who have already received citizenship, are they legal? maybe 5% are illegal... but there aren't many of them, illegal... most of them are legalized, but they aren't taken into account... just like you... and what percentage are there among the criminals with acquired citizenship- silence everywhere... I wonder why?

                        Well, let there be 10 million of them legalized (and already ALL of them, including Ukrainians, Moldovans, Balts and Depardieu) - the crime ratio will grow and will be 150 000 crimes from the same almost million. And this is provided that they all 10 million will commit crimes, get caught and be convicted.
                        What nonsense...
                        About 90% of migrants are law-abiding (they have a business, they have children to feed and so on) - but they all enrage.
                        It is and nothing can be done about it. There will be no Tajiks - there will be enrage Kazakhs, Caucasus, Buryats, Tatars and so on.
                        Moscow 2006, a woman throws a tantrum "Tajiks have come in droves!!" And points her finger at Kazakhs (and our faces!). I ask them in Kazakh "Where from?", they don't understand. I ask in Russian "Saratov or Samara?"
                        They turned out to be ours for sure - from Saratov. Their ancestors have lived with us for so long that they don't even know the language and in Kazakhstan they are not recognized as Kazakhs at all - but for this woman they are "Tajiks"
                  3. Aag
                    0
                    20 June 2025 07: 48
                    Quote: mann
                    In the States, illegals allegedly worked in underground factories, they were exploited. And here they hang around the streets, migrants receive apartments and benefits from the Russian Federation
                    You see, in recent years I've only left home once or twice a month, so I can only judge the scale of the problems from the Internet and my memories. It's clear that the Internet is full of negativity, it would be interesting to hear the other side. The truth is usually in the middle... but migrants don't write on the Internet...

                    They certainly write!
                    And with sermons, and with discontent, and with threats...
                    In the comments on Zen, TikTok, YouTube...
                    1. man
                      0
                      20 June 2025 09: 13
                      I have already corrected it:
                      Thank you, I expressed myself incorrectly again request smile It would be interesting to listen to representatives of the Central Asian peoples here on VO, the people here are more objective and literate
              2. +2
                19 June 2025 18: 46
                Quote: mann
                The most common figure is 6 million Mexican illegals alone.

                How to count illegal migrants, I wonder? Any illegal immigrant, in principle, is a threat to the state, be it the USA, Russia, or any state. Must be expelled. Any migrant is obliged to enter legally.
                1. man
                  +1
                  19 June 2025 18: 58
                  Quote: Was Mammoth
                  Quote: mann
                  The most common figure is 6 million Mexican illegals alone.

                  How to count illegal migrants, I wonder? Any illegal immigrant, in principle, is a threat to the state, be it the USA, Russia, or any state. Must be expelled. Any migrant is obliged to enter legally.

                  Honestly... I don't know myself. request I just found more or less trustworthy sources on the Internet and voiced the smallest figure... not even the arithmetic mean smile
                  And I completely agree with you about illegals. And in general, I have repeatedly insisted that any state should have a fully-fledged guarded border... which was the border of the USSR.
                  If only because the absence of it provokes unpunished crimes...
            2. +9
              19 June 2025 08: 53
              Quote: Reptiloid
              40 million Mexicans.

              The difference between Mexican migrants and ours is that they are Christians, Catholics. And we have the most terrible type of migrants... radical Muslims. And that's... awful.
              1. +3
                19 June 2025 09: 09
                I agree, one can add that Mexican migration is much more than 100 years old. And somehow they coexisted.
                I like Latin American countries myself. Their ancient culture, religion, combined with Catholicism. There are world-famous writers, artists, politicians, revolutionaries,
                Communist parties, athletes. I don't even know what the SA republics can boast about recourse Migrants from whom said that Allah created everything and Russia too and they can live here as they want. request
                1. -8
                  19 June 2025 12: 29
                  Quote: Reptiloid
                  . Their ancient culture, religion, combined with Catholicism. There are world-famous writers, artists, politicians, revolutionaries,
                  Communist parties, athletes. I don't even know what the SA republics can boast about

                  Well, the culture of Central Asia, especially in Uzbekistan, is no less ancient.
                  Quote: Reptiloid
                  artists

                  Artists like Siqueiros are so-so, not really for those who like Chagall and Picasso.
                  Quote: Reptiloid
                  writers
                  - are unreadable due to the peculiarity of their thinking. Sometimes it seems that the author is high on cocaine
                  Quote: Reptiloid
                  revolutionaries

                  Pancha Villa and Che Guevara, everyone....
                  Quote: Reptiloid
                  Communist parties,
                  boo-hoo, of a strictly defined type - having nothing to do with communism at all

                  Quote: Reptiloid
                  I don't even know what the SA republics can boast about

                  You were not simply interested - and scientists were astronomers and writers and revolutionaries
                  1. +6
                    19 June 2025 13: 43
                    Quote: your1970
                    You were not simply interested - and scientists were astronomers and writers and revolutionaries

                    There were... Long ago... even before the radical Islamic culture. Ulugbek, Avicenna, and then darkness, jihad, zamotashki, Wahhabis...
                    1. 0
                      19 June 2025 19: 12
                      Quote: 30 vis
                      Quote: your1970
                      You were not simply interested - and scientists were astronomers and writers and revolutionaries

                      There were... Long ago... even before the radical Islamic culture. Ulugbek, Avicenna, and then darkness, jihad, zamotashki, Wahhabis...

                      Wahhabism emerged in Arabia at the end of the 18th century and reached Central Asia by the end of the 20th century.
                      Avicenna lived in the 1000s.
                      Don't you notice the difference of 900 years? There was apparently no culture or development there, right?
                  2. +2
                    19 June 2025 16: 25
                    revolutionaries.

                    Of course there were, but since it was the Revolution of 1917, then this is already History of the USSR
                2. 0
                  19 June 2025 15: 23
                  Quote: Reptiloid
                  I don't even know what the SA republics can boast about
                  Their pilaf is very good. I don't see any other advantages. wink
                3. +2
                  19 June 2025 16: 31
                  Quote: Reptiloid
                  , ....... Migrants ...... said that Allah created everything and Russia too and they can live here as they want. request

                  There is a continuation. They also say that Kaliningrad was created by Allah and that it is Germany. And they are making plans for separatism. I wonder if you praise them for this, Sergey? ---- your1970
              2. +7
                19 June 2025 10: 40
                Yes, that's right. A Mexican is Einstein compared to a Tajik.
        2. 0
          19 June 2025 10: 42
          Quote: Reptiloid
          In his first 100 days, Trump expelled 95% of illegal immigrants from the US.

          Yeah... and also annexed Canada and Greenland, moved industry, refused Chinese goods and completed the NWO. laughing
          1. +1
            19 June 2025 11: 06
            Trump has already destroyed a lot of things and is planning more. Let's see what happens.
        3. +2
          19 June 2025 12: 19
          Quote: Reptiloid
          Trump expelled 100% of illegal immigrants from the US in his first 95 days. That was the report.

          They lied.
          From January to March, 37 to 40 were deported per month; under Biden, the monthly average was 000-60 deportations.
          You just don't understand the procedure for placing him - it's not about taking him to the border and kicking him lol Everything is much more complicated...
          1) it is necessary to obtain information about the person’s citizenship
          2) send a request to the country of his citizenship and receive a confirming response
          3) check the possibility of deportation to this country
          4) agree on deportation
          5) deport.
          6) if the migrant has deceived you, send a request to another country
          And all over again...
          Considering that they are deported through the court, the story is quite long and expensive. Even for the US budget.
          I came across figures that the deportation of all illegals would require approximately 1,2 annual US budgets. recourse
          In Russia, deportation of 1 person (before Covid) cost 62
          1. +2
            19 June 2025 15: 30
            your1970, I completely agree with you, but there is one BUT! All the deportation points that you described are suitable for those who entered the country more or less legally, after which they began to request American citizenship. But people who crossed the border illegally do not fall under these laws. These are ordinary violators who are subject to criminal or administrative liability
            1. +1
              19 June 2025 18: 50
              Quote: Dutchman Michel
              your1970, I completely agree with you, but there is one BUT! All the deportation points that you described are suitable for those who entered the country more or less legally, after which they began to request American citizenship. But people who crossed the border illegally do not fall under these laws. These are ordinary violators who are subject to criminal or administrative liability

              And a dead end arises -
              1) there is nowhere to deport them - the country is unknown, 2) they committed a criminal offense - that is, they should sit. But US prisons are not made of rubber

              Quote: Dutchman Michel
              are suitable
              - this is the wrong word. These procedures are the only ones possible for deporting illegals.
        4. 0
          20 June 2025 16: 38
          What to watch, think about it, recently about a month ago they had some kind of Bayram. And a video from Moscow was circulating on the Internet of them walking like a solid black sea along a wide street. My God, there are so many of them there, tens of thousands of them. And only men, angry, bearded, bleating something in their own language. This is an organized army, armed and waiting for the command of their mullah at the FAS. Putin thinks that his FSO will protect him and the strong Kremlin walls. I'm afraid that he may see the light too late, in the conditional basement of the Ipatiev House, like his predecessor. To be honest, it's scary. Not for myself, I'm already old, but for my children and grandchildren. They have to live.
          1. +1
            20 June 2025 17: 45
            hi so back in 2011 on New Year's Eve there was a film called OUR RUSSIA! And there were shots of migrant workers with shovels advancing in a crowd towards the viewer. With sullen, angry faces.
      3. + 15
        19 June 2025 08: 05
        when there are even more of these “valuable foreign specialists” so adored by the authorities, then “those of you who remain alive will envy the dead!” ©
    2. +3
      19 June 2025 10: 11
      Workers of the whole country, unite!
      Quote: Vladimir_2U
      planted from outside and against the indigenous majority, namely Russians and other peoples of Russia. And it is also covered from the center.

      We read the declaration of state sovereignty of Russia dated June 12, 1990.
      "p.4. The state sovereignty of the RSFSR is proclaimed... and to each people - for self determination in the national-state and national-cultural forms chosen by him."

      The collapse of Russia was already laid back then. The Sverdlovsk people (Yeltsin) handed over power to their enemies - the St. Petersburg people (Putin), having decided that nothing could save Russia, that its fate was already predetermined. They failed, the second Chechen war stopped the centrifugal forces of the country's collapse...

      About power:
      The president - Bolshevik.
      The restructuring was prepared and carried out Trotskyists (Zyuganov).
      Their fruits were taken advantage of Vlasovites (Medvedev) - their flag flies over the country.
      These are the three main opposing forces, each pursuing its own goals. I am for the Bolsheviks.
    3. +7
      19 June 2025 11: 21
      We see the same thing now...And it is also covered from the center.
      Recently, the Communist Party deputy Mikhail Matveyev drew attention to the close cooperation of our country with the International Organization for Migration (IOM), acting on behalf of the UN, which adopted programs for the resettlement of citizens of Tajikistan and Kyrgyzstan to Russia in order to reduce poverty in Central Asian countries. Joining the IOM was done as part of the implementation of the order of the President of the Russian Federation dated August 16, 2020 No. Pr-1311. In February 2021, the president submitted the organization's charter to the State Duma for consideration. In April 2021, Russia became a full member of the IOM. At the end of 2021, the government wrote a negative review of the bill of the First Deputy Chairman of the State Duma Committee on CIS Affairs Konstantin Zatulin on the repatriation of compatriots to their homeland. But a "new generation" of Asians is successfully migrating to us, who in fact do not know the Russian language, but pass the exam. As F.D. Roosevelt believed: "In politics, nothing happens by accident. If something happened, it was meant to be that way."
      1. +1
        19 June 2025 19: 02
        Probably, poverty there has not decreased. Corruption, theft. And now there is also the fuss with Western countries, training there, joint army programs. Why do we need this? The SVO is being settled and humanitarian aid is being collected for the Ukrainians. Because of them, pensions and benefits are being torn away from the Russians. After all, when did they, the newcomers, work here?
    4. +5
      19 June 2025 11: 39
      .....people were unable to overcome the psychological barrier and openly speak out for the preservation of.....

      That's right, the same thing.
  2. +4
    19 June 2025 04: 40
    Quote: Samsonov Alexander
    Group co-chairs: A. D. Sakharov, B. N. Yeltsin, Yu. N. Afanasyev, G. Kh. Popov, V. Palm
    Disgusting maggots that the Soviet government either didn’t crush or overlooked at the time!
  3. +6
    19 June 2025 05: 59
    Perestroika and the following years proved that, firstly, anti-Sovietism is always equal to Russophobia, and secondly, that all enemies of the USSR are pathological liars and hypocrites, they all lied under the rule of the communists - and those who, for the sake of profit and career, pretended to be communists and their supporters, and those who portrayed the opposition, falsely and hypocritically crucified that they were for democracy, freedom of speech, human rights, they all together lied and were hypocrites during their anti-communist Perestroika, and they still lie and are hypocrites 33 years after their seizure of the republics of the USSR - and in propaganda against the Soviet people, and in propaganda against each other, and about what they themselves have done.
    1. -1
      19 June 2025 11: 02
      Quote: tatra
      anti-Sovietism is always equal to Russophobia

      pro-Sovietisms, first of all return to Russia the RUSSIAN Odessa, Nikolaev, Petropavlovsk, Guryev, etc., etc., against the will of the Russian people, treacherously distributed by you outskirts
      Who gave you permission to do this? Is that how you love Russia?
      1. +1
        19 June 2025 11: 05
        And who allowed you, enemies of the USSR and the Soviet people, to divide among yourselves not just the USSR, but centuries-old Russia, contrary to the will of the majority of voters in the referendum on preserving the USSR?
        Or will you again cowardly whine that you, the enemies of the USSR and the Soviet people, have “nothing to do” with all this, and talk nonsense about how “the USSR collapsed on its own”?
        1. 0
          19 June 2025 12: 24
          Quote: tatra
          And who are you, the enemies of the USSR and the Soviet people?

          I repeat the question: pro-Sovietisms, first return to Russia the RUSSIAN Odessa, Nikolaev, Petropavlovsk, Guryev, etc., etc., against the will of the Russian people, treacherously given away by you to the outskirts
          Who gave you permission to do this? Is that how you love Russia?
          Quote: tatra
          to divide among themselves not just the USSR, but centuries-old Russia

          Let me remind the ignorant: centuries-old Russia was divided by YOU from 1917 to 1940, creating in its place sovereign states
          Quote: tatra
          centuries-old Russia, contrary to the will of the majority of voters in the referendum

          Let me remind the ignorant that Russia was not mentioned in that referendum not a word
  4. BAI
    +5
    19 June 2025 06: 15
    Mikhail Gorbachev during his speech at the 28th Congress of the CPSU in the Kremlin Palace of Congresses

    This face is hateful. I can't stand it.
  5. 0
    19 June 2025 06: 19
    In the late 1980s and early 1990s, organizations like "Sajudis" stirred up trouble in the Baltics. And in Central Asia, organizations like "Birlik" stirred up trouble. In one of the republics of Central Asia, one of the reasons for discontent was called this: "the Russians have eaten all our bread." In the same republic (after gaining independence), after interethnic conflicts between representatives of different Muslim diasporas, the blame was shifted to the Russians from the KGB. This is despite the fact that representatives of their own indigenous nationalities worked in the KGB of the union republics. In Central Asia, in the late 1980s, an enemy station like "the voice of America" ​​was picked up on the receiver. I remember one of the topics of the programs - about concentration camps in the USSR. At present, the British are breaking away from us Uzbekistan, holding joint military exercises there.
  6. +8
    19 June 2025 06: 29
    Gorbachev is a devoted traitor. He betrayed and slandered the communists who entrusted him with the country and the people, and those to whom he handed over the country and the people for robbery and destruction, betrayed him, de facto overthrew him, and threw him to those whom he betrayed.
    1. +8
      19 June 2025 06: 49
      Quote: tatra
      Gorbachev is a devoted traitor. He betrayed and slandered the communists.

      And which of the communists fought to prevent Gorbachev from taking the post of General Secretary? Or opposed him when he was destroying the USSR?
      1. +4
        19 June 2025 06: 55
        You, enemies of the USSR, live in some kind of your own Looking Glass, and are incapable of adequately assessing either yourselves or reality. Your "liberators" Gorbachev and Yeltsin pretended to be "faithful communists" for 30 years, and would have pretended until their death, had Gorbachev not come to power in the USSR.
        And you all have been pretending to be “humanitarians” for the last 35 years since your Perestroika, slandering the USSR in order to justify your seizure of the USSR.
        1. +3
          19 June 2025 06: 56
          I just asked. What, I can't even ask?
          1. +3
            20 June 2025 18: 07
            You can't ask, you just have to agree.
            Otherwise the enemy)
            1. 0
              20 June 2025 18: 32
              Quote: Russian_Ninja
              You can't ask, you just have to agree.
              Otherwise the enemy)

              No way! Are you hinting at censorship and lack of freedom of speech? belay laughing
  7. +7
    19 June 2025 06: 37
    Gorby is the same Khrushch, but in version 2.0. In the fall of 1964, there were people in the CPSU who were able to slap Khrushch on the knuckles, and in a completely legal way, but there was no such opposition for Gorby - too many of the party functionaries wanted to immediately step into the bourgeois elite.
    1. +6
      19 June 2025 06: 58
      Gorbachev did the same thing that the other two "leaders" of the enemies of the communists and the USSR did - having become leaders of the State, all three of them immediately began to replace people in the highest echelons of power with their own. And those who put the last "leader" on the "throne" have long regretted that they did this, but can no longer do anything.
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    1. +6
      19 June 2025 10: 55
      There is no conspiracy, there is one eternal problem called “ruler for life.” The USSR suffered from this and we are now rushing into the same abyss, irremovability leads to degradation, the emergence of dubious characters in the elite, even Stalin stepped on the same rake.
  9. +7
    19 June 2025 07: 32
    I am absolutely sure that Gorbachev was recruited by Western intelligence services BEFORE becoming General Secretary. Otherwise, the Americans would never have allowed a real progressive patriot of the Russian people to come to power. So to speak. The same fight against alcoholism was specifically undertaken to undermine the economy and create tension in society. I think that the West (or those who rule the world) brought Yeltsin to power and then suddenly (out of nowhere) his young and active successor appeared. They controlled everything and are still doing it now. What they are trying to present as a series of random mistakes and failures are in fact targeted measures that only worsen the situation. Well, look around yourself.
    1. +4
      19 June 2025 15: 07
      Quote: Alex_Kraus
      I am absolutely sure that Gorbachev was recruited by Western intelligence services BEFORE becoming General Secretary. Otherwise, the Americans would never have allowed a real progressive patriot of the Russian people to come to power.

      Considering that Gorby was dragged to the top by the chief security officer and the chief ideologist, it’s time to start a conspiracy theory that the entire top of the USSR was recruited by the West.
      1. 0
        19 June 2025 15: 24
        Maybe so, I don't know. I really don't like conspiracy theories. But somehow everything works out in a certain way. Even the simultaneous closure (stoppage) of tobacco factories - well, it's clear why.
  10. +4
    19 June 2025 08: 03
    The situation on the outskirts can only be improved by force – the disease is too advanced. Negotiations with the Ukrainian elite of spiritual freaks are pointless. A meeting with them is only needed to isolate them. The only advantage of a deal is an immediate end to the bloodshed. But only if this is followed by coercion to improve by actions. This is possible. With the transfer of the country to a mobilization mode in all areas. Unfortunately, there are no prerequisites for hoping for this, there are no efforts at the top to be creative.
  11. 0
    19 June 2025 09: 07
    Democratization of the army, Gorbachev style, is when the duty officer on duty at the regiment began to sit in slippers at night, the flight crew began to wander around the garrison in flight uniforms, and in the flight characteristics they began to write down the following: loves to fly, especially to dive (especially to bomb - for the navigator), but during landing (at the training ground - for the navigator) requires increased attention.
    Has the bitter experience of democratization of the army in 1917 really taught us nothing, since both in 1917 and later their followers acted very competently?
  12. fiv
    +1
    19 June 2025 09: 07
    We have no idea at all of the tasks that people in power face. Everything we cannot understand sometimes has a trivial but phenomenal explanation. Sometimes it is corruption. Or "political". And how often this "sometimes" is - I do not even want to think about it. But I would like solutions in the form of a business-accounting team, when decisions are clear to everyone and bring benefit and advantage. But this is unattainable under any method of governing the state. Only a monarchy can somehow approach the ideal.
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  14. +2
    19 June 2025 09: 24
    Joseph Stalin shot people like Gorbachev and that's why some people hate him so much. In the area around Katyn, the NKVD shot 3000 Polish officers, after they were convicted by the court. The rest were shot by the Germans who occupied these areas, and it was genocide, they killed everyone who was not German. This is the most likely version.
    1. +5
      19 June 2025 15: 04
      Quote: 1944-1989
      Joseph Stalin shot people like Gorbachev and that's why some people hate him so much.

      But it didn't help. Let me remind you that the same decision to separate Crimea from the RSFSR and transfer it to the Ukrainian SSR was made by the personnel who had passed all the checks at the IVS. And they also condemned the IVS at the XX and XXII congresses.
  15. +4
    19 June 2025 09: 56
    Yes, this time it's a good summary.
    The government is surrendering the interests of the country and the population to the benefit of personal power. The "lack of immunity" played a role - the submissive obedience of the common people, communists, servicemen. As now - everyone is obedient, who takes a step to the left or to the right... N, Prigozhin, Strelkov.....

    Alas. And it is like that now. Nothing can be changed.
    Friedman and Abramovich, who gave money to Ukraine after the SVO - their own. because the Elite can
  16. 0
    19 June 2025 10: 39
    The first punitive units, typical for capitalist countries, appear in law enforcement agencies. In 1987, special police units (OMON) are formed in the Internal Affairs Directorate, designed to maintain public order during mass events.

    These units existed in the Ministry of Internal Affairs before. They were simply called operational regiment, operational company, etc.
    In 1989, the police adopted the rubber truncheon, which had an important symbolic meaning. People's power, even with restrictions, came to an end.

    He-he-he... and it's nothing that just people's power and adopted it rubber stick?
    In 1966, an order of the RSFSR MOOP introduced a new procedure for wearing and using a rubber stick: "Allow the wearing of a rubber stick naked in the hand, as well as on a belt on the left side ...".
    © Karpechenko S.V., custodian of the funds of the Cultural Center of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Republic of Karelia.

    The "democratizer" of the perestroika era is the PR-73, a rubber baton from 1973.
  17. +2
    19 June 2025 12: 15
    which excluded the mention of the leading role of the CPSU from Article 6. This took the core out of the whole political system state
    .the author does not know the constitution of the USSR, but it clearly states that the PEOPLE are the most important:
    Chapter 1. Politic system

    Article 2. All power in the USSR belongs to the people. The people
    exercises state power through the Councils of People's
    deputies who formed the political basis of the USSR
    .
    All other government bodies are controlled and accountable.
    To the Councils of People's Deputies.


    In Russia the outskirts became Russia, and in the USSR Russia was turned into...the outskirts.
    1. 0
      20 June 2025 20: 16
      It was a single country, not divided into Russia and the rest as in your head. You yourself indicate above how many Russians were on the "outskirts".
      And no one is to blame that the access to the Baltic for Russia is the Baltic republics, and the access to Asia is also on the outskirts. It's geography.
      And even under Peter the Great, the Balts lived better than the Russians, and the Russian treasury invested in the Baltic ports. Well, go ahead, present a historical bill to Peter the Great within the framework of your logic for the fact that he destroyed the Russian port of Arkhangelsk and invested in Revel, Riga and Finland, which, by the way, the Romanovs did not bother to annex to a united Russia for 200 years. And in Asia, Peter the Great tried to populate northern Iran and the Caucasus with Russians and built fortresses in Turkmenistan.
  18. +2
    19 June 2025 12: 22
    The Popular Front (official name – the Popular Front in Support of Perestroika, later – the Popular Front of Estonia, Rahvarinne) was created in 1988. The idea of ​​the movement was proposed by its future leader Edgar Savisaar.
    In the 1990 elections to the Supreme Council of the ESSR, the Popular Front received 24% of the votes, resulting in the formation of a government, most of which were members of the Popular Front. The movement ceased its activities in 1993.
    Following the example of the Estonian Popular Front, similar popular movements were created throughout the USSR in the late 1980s, including in Latvia and Lithuania.
    (Encyclopedia of Estonia)
  19. +2
    19 June 2025 20: 16
    I'm wondering... Why does the author write this? Longing for the USSR? For the situation where the poorest and most deprived was the RSFSR? So this was the policy of the native communist party. What claims do you have against the nationalists? They simply copied the center.
    1. 0
      19 June 2025 20: 56
      If the RSFSR was "poor", then how much poorer did you, enemies of the USSR, make the Russian Federation and the Russian people? You, unlike the RSFSR, do not have enough money either for the development of the country, or for maintaining the country in at least a more or less normal condition, or for large social benefits for Russian citizens, or for normal salaries and pensions for citizens.
      If you hadn’t had a huge FREEBIES from the USSR, the State you created would have long ago collapsed into the poorest and most backward countries in the world.
      1. 0
        20 June 2025 10: 58
        Quote: tatra
        You, unlike the RSFSR, do not have enough money either for the development of the country, or for maintaining the country in at least a more or less normal condition, or for large social benefits for Russian citizens, or for normal salaries and pensions for citizens.

        Apparently, due to the great concern of the native party, the residents of the RSFSR demanded the introduction of cards for meat and dairy products - "as it is introduced in the cities: Sverdlovsk, N. Tagil, Kizel, Gubakha, Gorky, Izhevsk and others"©.
        Because otherwise the working man in the shops and order desks would get nothing.
        1. 0
          20 June 2025 13: 18
          What primitive enemies of the USSR, incapable of understanding anything. In such a cannibalistic way, like you and the communists, they could easily poison the people with counterfeit and low-quality "products" at high prices. And you are even proud of it.
          1. +2
            20 June 2025 16: 18
            Quote: tatra
            In such a cannibalistic way, you and the communists could easily poison the people with counterfeit and low-quality “products” at high prices.

            Are you talking about Soviet margarine, shortening and confectionery, cooking and baking fats based on palm oil? Or about Soviet sausages of GOST recipe with offal, protein additives and "E-numbers", including sodium glutamate? wink
            Quote: tatra
            And you are proud of this too.

            Do you want to be proud of a country that can't even feed those who forge? Shield of the Motherland, and is forced, half a century after its formation, to introduce coupons for meat and dairy products?
            1. -1
              20 June 2025 20: 07
              Vein interests and love for the country are in no way connected with each other.
  20. 0
    20 June 2025 03: 55
    Marked scum! Earth to you glass wool! It was interesting to know the opinion of representatives of the three Baltics, how they live now in comparison with life in the USSR? In Soviet times, the three Baltics were the showcase of the USSR, and now they are a doormat at the entrance to Europe!
  21. -1
    20 June 2025 14: 54
    The GMS began to be hated after the start of the anti-alcohol campaign.
    And after Pharos it became clear to everyone that this weirdo is written with an “m”...
  22. +1
    20 June 2025 18: 30
    Quote: mann
    The truth is usually somewhere in the middle.
    A very controversial statement. The truth is in the middle - it's like the average temperature of patients in a hospital. Some have already cooled down, others have a fever, but on average in the hospital everyone is 36,6 degrees.
  23. +2
    20 June 2025 18: 33
    Quote: Alex_Kraus
    Even the simultaneous closure (stoppage) of tobacco factories - well, it’s clear why.
    Well, why? Your version? By the way, how many factories were closed (stopped) at the same time, according to your information?
  24. 0
    20 June 2025 20: 04
    The abolition of Article 6 and the leading role of the Communist Party is comparable to the February Revolution of 1917 for the tsarist empire.
    Gorbachev sold the CPSU in exchange for the presidential post.
    Of course, nationalists have climbed into the suddenly empty place in power, because first of all, people begin to remember their roots for a new unification.
  25. 0
    21 June 2025 21: 19
    Quote: severok1979
    Gorby is the same Khrushchev, but in version 2.0.

    Yeltsin - Khrushchev, version 3.0.
    Putin - Khrushchev, version 4.0.
    wassat
  26. 0
    21 June 2025 23: 02
    Quote: Aleksandral
    It was interesting to know the opinion of representatives of the Baltic States on how they live now compared to life in the USSR?

    Life is not bad.
    In the first quarter of 2025, the average old-age pension in Estonia was 774,50 euros per month.
    The average insurance pension for a non-working pensioner is 24 rubles. Citizens who are entitled to an old-age insurance pension receive 846,09 rubles.
    According to the Palgad.ee salary survey, 80% of people in the position of Primary school teacher in Estonia earn between 1 EUR and 287 EUR monthly net. 2% of employees earn less than 726 EUR, and 10% of people earn more than 1 EUR.
    The average monthly salary for a teacher position is 55 ₽ net. The lowest salary starts from 000 ₽ net. The highest salary can reach 25 ₽ net per month. The most likely minimum salary is 000 ₽, the maximum is 170 ₽.
    80% of people in the position of Doctor in Estonia earn between 1 EUR and 952 EUR monthly net. 4% of employees earn less than 868 EUR, and 10% of people earn more than 1 EUR.
    In 2025, employers began offering medical workers in Russia an average of 78 thousand rubles per month, which is 16% more than last year, Gazeta.Ru reports.

    The oligarchs in Russia are naturally cooler.
    1. 0
      23 June 2025 18: 09
      Prices in Estonia now
      Petrol 95 € 1.569
      Petrol 98 € 1.619
      Diesel € 1.409
      Gas (LPG) € 0.887
      Single ticket (local transport) € 2.00 (180 rubles)
      Basic services (electricity, heating, cooling, water, garbage) for an apartment of 85 sq. m. - € 288.47 (26 rubles)
      Internet (60 Mbps or more, unlimited traffic, cable/ADSL) € 30.94 (2 rubles)
      From 2025, Estonia will have to pay income tax on the average pension
      The exemption rate for old-age pensioners is set at 776 euros.
      According to forecasts from the Estonian Ministry of Finance, the average pension will increase to 2025 euros in 826
      This means that the average pension will cost around €11 in income tax per month, or €132 per year.
      As of January 1, 2025, several changes to tax legislation came into force in Estonia: Income tax for individuals increased - the rate increased from 20% to 22%.
      The reduced tax rate on dividends (14/86) has been abolished - now all dividends are taxed at a single rate of 22/78.
      1. 0
        24 June 2025 18: 52
        They forgot the results of the revolution at the beginning of the century in the Russian Empire. "What we fought for, we got." They taught History poorly, and she is such a lady that she can hit you on the forehead with a pointer.
  27. +1
    24 June 2025 15: 49
    No need for blabbermouth. During the investigation of Rust's case, no connections to NATO or anyone else were proven. The boy simply boarded a plane and arrived.
    Ground air defense sent a MiG-25 interceptor from Khotilovo air base to the area where Rust had flown an hour ago.
  28. +1
    24 June 2025 16: 00
    Quote: Reptiloid
    In the first 100 days, Trump expelled 95% of illegals from the US. These were the reports. And the current riots and arson --- that's 5%. It's very instructive for our people at the top to watch and think. Vladimir Vladimirovich hi

    These are pure tales for Trump's allies. How can they be expelled if they have disappeared into the south of the US and never show their noses? He deported back those who were sitting at that time in the border detention centers and waiting for documents. Well, plus some were snatched by the cops in Arizona, New Mexico, Texas or California. Well, another 10 thousand
  29. 0
    24 June 2025 18: 48
    Actually, in Rus' traitors were executed by "razmuchka" (unfastening) by tying their legs to two bent trees. It's a pity that descendants forgot about this method.
  30. 0
    28 June 2025 17: 34
    Quote: Seal
    From 2025, Estonia will have to pay income tax on the average pension
    The exemption rate for old-age pensioners is set at 776 euros.

    Don't have to
    Quote: Tima62
    In the first quarter of 2025, the average old-age pension in Estonia was 774,50 euros per month.

    One and a half euros in reserve wink
  31. 0
    12 July 2025 18: 39
    I am surprised by the article dated 1988.
  32. 0
    12 July 2025 18: 55
    I am surprised in the article by the year 1988. Since I personally listened to Gorbachev in 1986. Also at the congress. Where he said the phrase that destroyed the USSR: "I allow everything that is not prohibited." And it was from that moment that the destruction of the USSR began. It is clear that in 1888, organizations had already been formed. Everything was done in forced steps. Only five years were enough for Gorbachev, and there is no USSR. Although if there had not been decades of preparation .... It would have been difficult for him. The people of the USSR, by and large, destroyed themselves along with the country. Everyone wanted capitalism, freedom?! And they sang songs about wanting change, American boy, I will leave with you and the like. Films promoted the Western way of life. At least take the same "Window to Paris". Hidden advertising. The same pedophilia and pederasty at the same time !!! All culture, theaters, cinema, and the media were aimed at fooling the country's population. And so we got a dimensional result.
  33. 0
    8 August 2025 07: 53
    The guy in the picture is not fit for the land of Russia. His bones are a sketch from the hatch of the Su-34 to throw into the territorial waters of any NATO country, as well as another "leader". The earth is glass wool for them. History will dot the "i's". But these two "heroes" are definitely the Judases of the USSR and the Russian people.
  34. 0
    28 September 2025 04: 56
    SCUM in the first photo, go away! I hope you're in Dante's 9th circle of HELL!
  35. -1
    18 November 2025 11: 38
    The current ruling elite in Russia's favorite pastime is stepping on the same rake. And if you look in the "mirror of history," the fall of 2025 is eerily reminiscent of the fall of 1916.