The death camps of the Western Allies

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The death camps of the Western Allies

In the fall of 1989, the book Other Losses: An Investigation into the Mass Death of German Prisoners of War at the Hands of the French and American After World War II by Canadian publicist James Bacque was published, in which the author directly accuses the Supreme Commander of the Allied forces in Europe, General Dwight Eisenhower, as well as the armed forces of the United States and France, of the death of at least 800 thousand German prisoners of war. According to a number of German researchers, up to 1,7 million prisoners did not return home, for which the authorities of Western countries blamed the USSR.

In March 1945, Eisenhower initiated the creation of a new class of prisoners of war, to whom the terms of the 1929 Geneva Convention on the rights of prisoners of war would not formally apply - "Disarmed Enemy Forces" (DEF), although official reporting of this was prohibited. In US Army reports, their deaths from starvation and disease now appeared under the heading "Other Losses".



In writing the book, the author used materials from the US National Archives and eyewitness accounts. At the same time, the author notes the rather tolerable conditions of detention of prisoners of war in British and Canadian camps. The former chief historian of the Center for Military stories Colonel Ernest F. Fisher, of the United States Army Center of Military History, who also participated in the 1945 investigation into allegations of crimes committed by American servicemen in Germany, believes that the accusations made in the book are true.

As early as May 1943, Eisenhower wrote to Army Chief of Staff George Marshall about the quarter million Germans captured in Tunisia: "We had better kill most of them." In 1969, the US Department of Defense ordered references to this to be removed from all of Eisenhower's publications.

For most of the war, the United States more or less adhered to the generally accepted norms of treatment of prisoners of war, fearing otherwise a mirror response from Germany, but as the end of hostilities approached, adherence to international conventions began to be forgotten.

The number of prisoners of war was constantly increasing. On April 18, 1945, 317 German soldiers were captured in the Ruhr pocket alone. By early May, there were already about 000 million of them in American captivity. According to the Geneva Convention, their food rations should be equal to those of the soldiers of the army that captured them. But in the first days of captivity, the prisoners of war were not fed at all, and in the following weeks - only occasionally.

The most notorious was the so-called Rheinwieserlager (Rhine Meadow Camp), a system of 19 American camps for German prisoners of war located along the banks of the Rhine River and existing from April to September 1945, although one of the camps operated until 1948. They were officially called Prisoner of War Temporary Enclosures (PWTE) and were areas of open field fenced with barbed wire and a chain of watchtowers with searchlights, where sometimes up to several tens of thousands of German soldiers were housed, and in total between one and two million people passed through them.


Map of concentration camps Rheinwieserlager

Thus, the camp in Andernach held up to 60 people, and in Remagen - 000. In one of these camps, designed for 184 people, there were 000 prisoners. There was no shelter from the weather or basic sanitary facilities. Food was meager and episodic, not exceeding 8 calories per day. The prisoners often ate grass soup, suffered severely from thirst, although the Rhine flowed a couple of hundred meters from them, dysentery and other diseases. According to the memoirs of prisoners of these camps, the prisoners "died like flies", and American trucks took away mountains of corpses every day. Similar conditions reigned in the French camps.


Remagen prisoner of war camp



Sinzig prisoner of war camp

Here is how one of the American camps was described by US Army Colonels James B. Masen and Charles H. Beasley, who visited it:

"In April 1945, hundreds of thousands of German soldiers, including hospital patients, amputees, women from auxiliary units and even civilians, were placed there (in the Rheinberg camp - author's note). ... One was 80, the other 9 years old. ... Constant hunger, excruciating thirst and death from dysentery were their inseparable companions. A merciless sky poured down torrents of rain on them for weeks. ... The amputees, like amphibians, with amputated limbs, slid through the mud, soaking wet and shivering. Day after day, night after night, people lay sadly on the sand under the open sky or sank into eternal sleep in their collapsing burrows."


Women's camp for German prisoners of war

At this time (April 1945), the American army in Europe had food reserves for 50 days for 5 million people at the rate of 4000 calories per day, while only 2 people were on food. A similar situation continued in the summer months. In addition, a huge amount of trophies fell into the hands of the Americans, including food and tents.

After Germany's capitulation, General Eisenhower issued the following order:

"...under no circumstances are attempts by the local population to collect food to feed the prisoners to be allowed. Those who attempt to violate this order or to pass food to the prisoners themselves expose themselves to the danger of being shot."

Former prisoner of war Hans Scharf describes a horrific incident in the Bad Kreuznach camp. A German woman with two children asked an American guard to pass a bottle of wine to her husband, who was on the other side of the barbed wire. The American soldier took the bottle, greedily drained it straight from the bottle and... shot the prisoner to death with five shots.

At a camp in Andernach, an American officer opened fire on a crowd of German women, declaring: “Target practice.” A plaque has been erected in the local church to commemorate the victims of this “training.”

One of the former prisoners of war recalled:

"Women from a nearby town brought food supplies they had collected to the camp. American soldiers piled them up, doused them with gasoline and set them on fire."

Until April 1945, most of the German prisoners of war (390) were sent to the United States, where they were used for agricultural work. With the end of military operations in the European theater, the transfer of American troops, weapons, and various types of supplies to the Pacific Ocean, where the war with Japan continued, began. Since this required a huge number of transport ships, the prisoners now remained in camps in Europe, whose resources were supposed to support them. In addition, tens of thousands of prisoners were kept on starvation rations in American concentration camps for people "subject to denazification" (in Bavaria alone, 000 people were in such camps at the end of 1945).

According to the Allied command, the existence of such concentration camps also reduced the likelihood of the emergence of a large-scale partisan movement (the so-called Werwolf) in the occupied territory.

In the first months after the end of the war, representatives of the International Red Cross were not allowed to inspect the camps, and humanitarian aid from the IRC to prisoners of war was only allowed in February 1946.

At this time, severe food shortages were felt throughout Germany, both as a result of military action and because the territories east of the Oder-Neisse, which produced 35% of Germany's food, had been ceded to Poland. Due to the lack of chemical fertilizers (the raw materials for their production were used to make ammunition), agricultural yields fell by 30%. There was a severe shortage of labor in agriculture, a significant part of which had previously been prisoners of war and foreign workers.

While in January 1945 the German civilian population received an average of 1625 calories per day, in the summer in the American zone of occupation of Germany this figure fell to 840 calories, and in Austria to 906. At the end of 1944 the diet of Dutch workers consisted of an average of 500 calories. This led to an unprecedented decision by the German authorities - they gave their consent to the release of Allied aviation food and medicine for the Dutch. And in neighboring Belgium at the same time they "ate" an average of 1450 calories. The diet of American servicemen in the European theater was 3612 calories, and that of German prisoners of war in the American occupation zone in the summer of 1945 was no more than 1200-1500.

To save the population of the western occupation zones from starvation before the harvest, at least 600 thousand tons of wheat were needed. At the same time, in 1944, the wheat harvest in France exceeded its consumption by 400 tons. The USA and Canada had huge food reserves.

On May 1, 1945, the Wehrmacht had 7 servicemen. On June 590, 000, 22 people were in American and British captivity. In the summer of 1945, 7 American concentration camps were transferred under the control of Great Britain and France. In total, in the summer of 614, prisoners of war were housed in 794 American camps. 1945 German soldiers passed through 11 French camps. At the end of 1945, 200 prisoners of war were in the hands of the British, 1600 in the hands of the French, and about 1 million in the USSR, while the Americans tried to get rid of this burden as quickly as possible, handing them over as slave labor to other Western allies or releasing them from captivity.

In 1992, the Eisenhower Center published a book by outraged opponents of James Bacque, Eisenhower and the German POWs. Facts Against Falsehood, in which they tried to refute the arguments of the Canadian publicist.

The book provides interesting, although very dubious and contradictory data on the mortality of prisoners of war of different armies. In the camps of the "humane" Americans on the territory of Germany, only from 3 to 56 thousand (according to various estimates, the official American figure is 15 people) German prisoners of war died, the mortality rate of American prisoners of war in German and Italian camps was 285%, the allies in Japanese captivity were worse - 4%, and the "hardest" fate befell the Wehrmacht soldiers in Soviet captivity, where allegedly more than two million died, the mortality rate was about 27%. And according to other data, given in this book, completely fantastic figures are given: 80 million prisoners, of whom 5,7 million died. At the same time, rumors are circulated about some "secret" prisoner of war camps. According to the data of the Main Directorate of the Military-Industrial Complex of the NKVD of the USSR, out of 2,4 German prisoners of war, 2 (733%) died.

Naturally, the actual number of deceased prisoners of war was somewhat higher, since some of them died before reaching the GUPVI camps (in front-line prisoner of war collection points, then in temporary army camps and during transport).

In the West German sources cited in the book, when calculating the number of German soldiers taken prisoner by the Red Army, they often refer to publications in the newspaper Pravda, although it is quite clear that it is always customary for the official media to overstate enemy losses. An example is the number of enemy troops encircled at Stalingrad (330 thousand people), which is still used in Russian sources, although in fact this figure did not exceed 220 thousand.

Isn't this discrepancy between the number of German prisoners of war who died in Soviet captivity and their total number one of those "Other Losses" in the Western occupation zones? In addition, most of those released from Soviet captivity returned to the Soviet occupation zone, later the GDR, which hardly exchanged information with the West. The USSR's refusal to sign the Geneva Convention and cooperate with the International Red Cross also played a negative role - it was accused of concealing information about the condition of prisoners of war and their cruel treatment.

Bibliography

1. James Bacque. Other Losses: An Investigation into the Mass Death of German Prisoners of War at the Hands of the French and American After World War II. Toronto, 1989
2. Eisenhower and the German POWs. Facts Against Falsehood. Louisiana State University Press, 1992
3. Boris Khavkin. German prisoners of war in the USSR and Soviet prisoners of war in Germany. Statement of the problem. Sources and literature. Forum of the newest Eastern European history and culture - Russian edition. No. 1, 2006
4. Internet
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  1. + 13
    12 June 2025 03: 21
    Well, I don’t know, I don’t know...for some reason I don’t feel any pity for the German soldiers captured by the Americans...the Germans got the opposite of what they deserved
    what they did with Red Army prisoners of war and the civilian population of the USSR...and on a much smaller scale.
    Now the Germans are again beating the drums of war...they have apparently forgotten the fate of their ancestors in these camps.
    I really don't like Khrushchev's decision to hand over German war criminals to the FRG who were prisoners of war... the bastards got off easy.
    1. -3
      12 June 2025 22: 55
      Well, the Fritzes did different things.
      For example, my paternal grandfather was captured wounded (near Uman, a soldier) and was placed in a camp (in a club in a village).
      A week later he was “bought out” by his grandmother for a couple of gusakovs and a couple of bottles of moonshine.
      And so almost everyone was bought out.
      So he “fought” in the village until 1942, then they were interned in Augsburg, at a carriage repair plant, where they worked until 1945 (my father’s sister was also born there in 1943).
      1. 0
        9 November 2025 08: 43
        My grandfather was captured in August 1942 near Stalingrad.
        He died in the Alexdorf camp in December.
        No one survived more than six months in this camp.
    2. -7
      14 June 2025 14: 14
      Most of the German servicemen were quite normal and decent people, many were former communists, social democrats, Christian democrats, etc. They became members of the Free Germany Committee, the builders of the GDR. Former Wehrmacht servicemen, including generals and officers, became the backbone of the young National People's Army and other security forces of East Germany. And there were many war criminals in the armies of the Anti-Hitler coalition, including the Red Army.
      1. +3
        14 June 2025 17: 36
        Most German soldiers were quite normal and decent people.
        - Well, yes, well! Of course! None of the policemen or Banderites complained about them!
        In 1942, my wife's uncle Vanechka was two years old. Germans were quartered in his house - normal and decent people. So my mother and Vanechka were forced to live in the cowshed. No place for a child. Once she sat him down next to the entrance to the cowshed in the fresh air. A normal and decent German came out of the house to pee and killed him with a kick. Just like that. Probably, this was a normal and decent ancestor of Beckenbauer.
        Another similar case happened to my friend's grandmother. She was eight years old. A normal and decent German, apparently, wanted to hear a Russian child screaming. So the normal and decent German twisted her and pulled out her nails with pliers. He was probably an electrician at Siemens, and pliers were his favorite working tool. This grandmother, even in her old age, was good for not screaming to spite the German.
        Now prove to me that these and similar cases were exceptions. The uniquely rare exception was precisely the decency of the Germans.
      2. +2
        19 June 2025 21: 10
        these completely normal and decent people, but can they really be called people for what they did on the territory of the USSR - let me remind you, Alexander, 29 million people out of these millions were killed, and 8 were soldiers, and the rest were civilians, children, old people, women - brutally destroyed by these normal and decent people. Yes, our Red Army, compared to the Wehrmacht, is an army of humanists.
      3. +1
        24 July 2025 01: 05
        The question is very slippery. I was told by real people how their fathers and mothers were fed by German soldiers in childhood. And others told how the Germans took away the last and shot them without much hesitation. And not SS men or punitive forces, but ordinary soldiers.
        Leave these tales about "former communists" alone. By the way, how many communists were there in Germany before 1933? No fewer than Nazis! Where did they go? Were so many really sent to prisons and concentration camps? Just don't tell fairy tales! In 1933, most of the "commies" very quickly changed their shoes to "Nazis". As for the NNA of the GDR. As far as I understand, its backbone was not made up of former Wehrmacht servicemen. Just don't tell me that the uniform was the same. It was the same, but not the same. Why should good things go to waste in warehouses? Budyonnovkas and leather jackets were not invented by the Red Army either. The backbone of the army was made up of newly trained youth. And if anyone got from the Wehrmacht, it was only in the officer corps, repeatedly checked and retrained.
        About "quite a few war criminals in the Red Army" - this is already "Mitrofanovism". Yes, they were there, this is a consequence of any war, but they fought against it in every possible way, in a variety of ways. As for "quite a few" - leave it to your own to grandfather... you probably don't just say that...
    3. +1
      16 September 2025 14: 56
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      Well, I don't know, I don't know...pity for German soldiers captured by Americans

      The article is not about pity, but about humanity. In this regard, the Germans are morally superior to the Yankees. The Germans were ground down for many years by the Nazi state machine, much like the non-brothers are now. They essentially had their "factory settings" broken and were taught not to see Soviet prisoners of war as people. At the same time, the British and Americans were treated humanely and, in principle, in accordance with the Prisoner of War Convention. The Americans, as well as the Brits, dehumanize all opponents. The Brits are essentially the inventors of concentration camps, where they killed the Boers with the same sadism, who, by the way, were not considered an inferior race, just enemies. What moral guidelines did a soldier have who organized a target practice session on women, or a man who killed a husband in front of his wife?
      One must always keep in mind that "Woe to the vanquished." To expect nobility and humanism from Western civilization is the highest form of idiocy.
      1. +1
        16 September 2025 15: 01
        The question is certainly interesting.
        The Germans, British and Americans perceive our humanity as weakness and use it against us.
        Our best qualities in this regard should only be extended to adequate people... and not to enemies of our citizens who have gone wild from the blood of their murdered citizens.
        To understand the situation, read the history of Himmler's Einsatzgruppen in Hitler's Germany.
  2. + 10
    12 June 2025 05: 44
    The fate of the German prisoners of war deported to is also interesting. concentration camps on US territory, who helped alleviate the severe labor shortage in many rural areas of the United States during World War II. They were sent to work on farms, where they were used as laborers to harvest crops and work in forestry. Although the Geneva Convention prohibited the use of prisoner-of-war labor, the American government turned a blind eye to it...
    1. 0
      13 June 2025 15: 03
      This convention prohibits the use of prisoners of war labor only in cases where it causes direct harm to their country, as well as officers, although they can be involved with their consent.
      1. 0
        14 June 2025 09: 50
        The material is interesting!
        But against the backdrop of the mass deaths of captured soldiers, the feat of the Americans, which determined the post-war breakthrough of the FRG - the complete destruction of the Reich tax service, and the actual cessation of tax collection from ordinary workers, for almost a decade, remains unnoticed.
        This slowed inflation and accelerated the country's recovery.
        Quote: Alexander Mitrofanov
        The convention prohibits the use of prisoners of war labor only in cases where it causes direct harm to their country

        That is, for the production of military items of any kind. Some lawyers believe that even road repairs by prisoners is treason to their homeland, since troops will be moving along the roads.
        In the spirit of the convention, prisoners should be entrusted with the production of items that are completely unsuitable for military purposes, such as furniture, or the sewing of children's and women's clothing.
  3. +7
    12 June 2025 07: 06
    According to the data of the Main Directorate of the Military-Industrial Complex of the NKVD of the USSR, out of 2 German prisoners of war, 733 (739%) died.

    This is the data according to the registration in the GUPVI NKVD USSR, and before that, the captured Germans and others had to get there alive, and this depended on many factors. In Stalingrad, about 90 thousand Germans were officially captured, only 5 thousand survived. But this is the official data. There is evidence of a high mortality rate among prisoners before they got to the GUPVI NKVD USSR and were registered - many prisoners were sent to the rear in winter on foot, in the train cars, too, no one really monitored the comfort of the prisoners, there was no time, they were stuffed like sardines in a barrel. Therefore, the figures for the number of prisoners and mortality differ significantly - the same Germans and Italians count their prisoners from the moment they were captured, and not from the moment they got to the GUPVI NKVD USSR, as was customary to believe in the USSR, and their mortality rates in captivity are much higher. According to the Soviet count, those who were captured but did not get to the prisoner of war camp were considered killed in action. And they could lead you to the camp hundreds of kilometers on foot, in winter conditions, and no one fed you any pickles, as everyone understands. And it wasn't all honey in the camp. In our own GULAG camps, the mortality rate at that time was 20 percent of prisoners per year, to say nothing of the Germans.
    1. -1
      12 June 2025 08: 15
      Quote from solar
      In our own Gulag camps the mortality rate at that time was 20 percent of prisoners per year, to say nothing of the Germans.

      the point is that the attitude towards Germans is better:
      Omsk OLP 2:
      During the war, many products were in short supply and were replaced or simply not issued. For example, instead of cereals, at one time, gruel was made from nettles. Meat very, very rarely made it into the cauldron, and almost never into the prisoner's bowl. Sugar was often missing, and sometimes bread was issued only once every two days.

      Under these conditions, degradation is not surprising, it is not surprising that people rummaged through garbage bins, garbage pits, looking for edible scraps with which to fill the emptiness in their stomachs. Working as a secretary in the medical unit, I knew more precisely, perhaps, than anyone else, the number of deaths in the camp. They are mind-boggling. With an average daily staff of OLP-2 of about 2000 people, in 1943 956 people died, or almost 50%, that is, in 2 years the camp died out. 1944 I did not work in the medical unit completely. In six months in 1944, 531 people died.
      Belenkiy E.
      1. +4
        12 June 2025 08: 22
        As for the German prisoners in the US camps, the Germans rushed there in vain::. According to the German Red Cross report, the case of the tracing of the prisoners and the final fate of 1300000 German prisoners of war is still unknown, and they are officially listed as missing.

        The issue cannot be finally resolved, since all the questionnaires on German prisoners were destroyed by the US military archives in October 1945.

        When the KGB of the USSR opened the archives in 1991, all the figures on the number and mortality of Wehrmacht soldiers in Soviet captivity were confirmed
      2. +3
        12 June 2025 11: 26
        the point is that the attitude towards Germans is better:
        The Germans in our captivity had it very differently, depending on the place and time, from the fact that they died out in the camps by 80% in a few months, to the fact that they lived in luxury, living significantly better than the civilian population, having good rations, extra income, living without dependents.
      3. 0
        12 June 2025 13: 51
        Quote: Olgovich
        With an average daily population of about 2 people in OLP-2000, 1943 people died in 956, or almost 50%, meaning that the camp died out in 2 years.
        How then did this Belenky of yours survive?
        1. +1
          13 June 2025 07: 41
          Quote: bk0010
          How then did this Belenky of yours survive?

          almost 50%, that is, within 2 years the camp died out.
          1. -1
            13 June 2025 09: 57
            Quote: Olgovich
            almost 50%, that is, in 2 years the camp died out.
            But in my opinion, this enemy of the people is simply blatantly lying. The fact is that the camp contingent is a workforce, and for its loss the camp administration would be held accountable to the fullest extent.
            1. +2
              13 June 2025 10: 37
              Quote: bk0010
              But in my opinion, this enemy of the people is simply brazenly lying.

              well yes, all , who have been there, "lie" the same thing
              Quote: bk0010
              The fact is that the camp contingent is a workforce, and for its loss the camp authorities would be held accountable to the fullest extent.

              They took care of property, equipment, horses, pigs, and not the scarce camp dust: for example, instead of horses, they harnessed people to sleighs, poured the White Sea from one hole to another, etc.

              Read G. Zhzhenov at least - I think you respect him?
    2. +2
      12 June 2025 10: 26
      Only 5 thousand remained alive. But these are official figures.
      There is no and cannot be any official data on the surviving Germans captured in Stalingrad; no one has counted them by the place of capture; these are the calculations of the Germans themselves who returned to Germany, 5-7 thousand.
      1. +2
        12 June 2025 10: 39
        It is quite possible. Official data in such matters is a complicated thing. If I am not mistaken, according to German official data, about 70 thousand people died in Auschwitz - from diseases and natural causes.
    3. +1
      13 June 2025 13: 22
      So what? After all the Germans did, they could have been shot on the spot, without any discussion. The USSR did not ratify the Geneva and Hague Conventions properly and was not obliged to observe their provisions. "There is no crime outside the law" (from Roman law).
      Yes, many Germans died on the march, during the delivery process. So, did they need to be provided with luxury carriages? And the Germans died also because, contrary to the clichés, the supply in the Wehrmacht was not up to par. The German soldiers were not clean and tidy, fully supplied with clothing, including winter uniforms. Sometimes they resembled a crowd of homeless people, and not "the best army in Europe." So they died like flies from diseases, frostbite, and other things. Well, let them thank their Fuhrer for this.

      They should have been fed pickles. Their rations were 50% of the siege rations in Leningrad. They were also coddled with them, so there's no point in shedding crocodile tears here...
      1. -4
        13 June 2025 15: 09
        According to the above-mentioned Convention, if one of the belligerents is not a party to it, the other party (in this case Germany) is not obliged to comply with it.
        1. 0
          14 June 2025 10: 35
          Somehow you interpret it freely. There it is specifically - the signatory takes upon itself the obligation to comply with it, and regarding non-compliance you are kind of wrong.
          The Conventions apply to signatory States even if the other Party is not a party to the Conventions, but only if it “accepts and applies the provisions” of the Conventions.
        2. 0
          15 June 2025 21: 47
          Is this a remark in defense of German prisoners of war or in justification of the Germans' attitude towards our prisoners of war?
        3. 0
          24 July 2025 01: 14
          Listen... Are you the captain there, or what? Go to sea... closer to Antarctica - there, according to the movies, there are still Nazis. They will be very glad to see you
        4. 0
          24 July 2025 01: 16
          Yeah... Mitrofanov himself decides who the convention is written for and who it is not.
    4. 0
      13 June 2025 16: 47
      The winter of 1942-43 was very difficult for the USSR in terms of food. Kuban and Ukraine, the most important sources of food, were under the Germans. Famine began in the rear of the USSR, there were cases of starvation. What can we say about prisoners and captives? The Americans came to the rescue. If not for them, there would have been a catastrophe.
    5. 0
      24 July 2025 01: 08
      Another Mitrofanovite... certainly, neither in the "gulag" nor in the Soviet prisoner of war camps, was there such a gigantic mortality rate as in the Nazi camps
      1. 0
        24 July 2025 17: 07
        certainly

        Were you interested or are you just writing?
        The death rate in the Gulag during the war reached 25 percent per year.
        1. 0
          25 July 2025 00: 19
          Once again: compare with the data from the Nazi camps! According to Israeli scientists, it reached 60% in 1942, and 80% in subsequent years
          1. -2
            25 July 2025 15: 31
            It was different in different camps. It is clear that the death rate was high in the camps for the extermination of Jews and some other categories.
            For example, in Buchenwald the mortality rate reached 33 percent per year, comparable to the Gulag, and close to the mortality rate of German prisoners of war in our captivity according to German data by surname. Captivity and camp during the war are not honey :((...
            1. 0
              26 July 2025 17: 37
              You still won’t convince anyone here that Soviet camps were worse than German ones.

              in the extermination camps of the Jews
              There were none.
              In the death camps, everyone was mixed up. I didn't look at the exact numbers (it would take a long time to dig around), but I assume that there were no fewer USSR citizens (of any nationality, both prisoners of war and civilians) in the Nazi camps than there were Jews.

              Captivity and camp during war are not honey
              In the USSR there was no such brutal attitude towards prisoners of war and prisoners. And there were no death camps at all.
              There were difficulties of war, yes, but there was no machine built to humiliate and destroy people, like the Nazis had.
              Yes, our prisoners worked, sometimes hard. And they didn't always eat well. But the whole country had a hard time then.
              1. -1
                26 July 2025 22: 59
                In the death camps, everyone was mixed up.

                For example, Auschwitz, one of the most famous death camps. According to modern data, the ethnic composition of the dead was as follows
                1 million Jews
                70-75 thousand Poles
                21 thousand gypsies
                15 thousand Soviet prisoners of war
                15 thousand others (Czechs, Russians, Belarusians, Ukrainians, Yugoslavs, French, Germans, Austrians, and so on).

                And there were no death camps at all.

                There were no death camps as such (although the Poles would probably disagree with this).
                But at the same time, the mortality rate of German prisoners captured at Stalingrad is over 90 percent. The situation with the Italians is similar. Many, having been captured, simply did not make it to the camp or did not reach it - who would have stood on ceremony with them then?
                The war was going on, there was no time for this...
                1. 0
                  30 July 2025 18: 35
                  1 million Jews
                  Why is this figure for Jews all of a sudden? The Holocaust figures have been called into question many times.

                  15 thousand Soviet prisoners of war
                  15 thousand others (Czechs, Russians, Belarusians, Ukrainians, Yugoslavs, French, Germans, Austrians, etc.)
                  Someone is clearly lying here. Were there any Russians among the Soviet prisoners of war? And what about Buchenwald and other Dachau? How many Soviet citizens were there? And how many were killed and starved to death in field camps?

                  By the way, even according to Zionist data (I repeat, they have been repeatedly questioned), how many Jews died during World War II? And how many Soviet citizens?

                  there were no death camps (although the Poles would probably disagree with this)
                  The Poles will disagree with many things. For example, that in 1918, it was Russia that granted them independence.

                  The mortality rate of German prisoners captured at Stalingrad is over 90 percent. The situation with the Italians is similar.
                  Where do you get the data from? That's the whole point, we're not talking about camps! And how many Soviet citizens "reached" German camps after captivity?

                  would you have stood on ceremony with them then?
                  There was no such swinish and cruel treatment of our people as the Germans showed us.

                  And you, disrespectful sir, clearly want to "hang" more on our country than "hangs" on the Nazis, Romanians, Hungarians and "allies"

                  The war was going on, there was no time for this
                  "They" had the murder of Russians in their ideology, and it was considered the norm and even a necessity. We did not propagate anything like that.

                  I don't remember anyone writing anywhere about our guards abusing captured Germans and the like. But only the lazy haven't written about the Germans
  4. +3
    12 June 2025 19: 05
    No wonder. That's their tradition.
    According to the first post-war plan of attack on the USSR (I think it was called "Unthinkable") it was also supposed to use German prisoners of war as "cannon fodder". Weapons depots were located near the camps.
    1. 0
      13 June 2025 17: 14
      I think it was called "The Unthinkable"

      "The Unthinkable" was a plan for the event that the USSR would join Japan in the Far East after the end of the war in Europe. The name of the plan clearly reflected the attitude of the plan's developers to its feasibility.
  5. +2
    12 June 2025 19: 11
    When reading the thought: "Oh, damn, poor Germans!"
  6. +2
    12 June 2025 20: 25
    The Anglo-Saxons are always alone For them, all people are like Indians The facts are simply horrifying Write another article about how in the 90s they actually organized the economic extermination of the Russian nation in Russia They wrote laws for us and put their people in charge GDP by 1998 had fallen by almost 50 percent Industry was destroyed There is little normal work. Thus, in 1992, meat consumption decreased by 80%, milk - by 56%, vegetables - by 84%, fish - by 56% from the level of the already meager 1991. And here are the figures from Rosstat. Over 17 years from 1992 to 2008, the direct population decline was 12 million 757 thousand people. It is known that in 1991, 148 million citizens lived in Russia, which means that at the beginning of 2009, there were just over 135 million in the country. This is an organized genocide
    1. -1
      13 June 2025 16: 50
      This is an organized genocide.

      There is no need to mix good with bad, and effect with cause, and to base false fabrications on this.
  7. -1
    14 June 2025 08: 11
    Quote from solar
    "The Unthinkable" was a plan for the event that the USSR would join Japan in the Far East after the end of the war in Europe. The name of the plan clearly reflected the attitude of the plan's developers to its feasibility.


    This is not the most compelling reason for developing this plan.

    A bit of copypasta.

    "The key document in the personal file of the British Prime Minister, declassified in 1998, is the plan for an emergency operation, Operation Unthinkable, dated 22 May 1945, prepared by the Joint Planning Staff of the War Cabinet. The plan sets out an assessment of the situation, the objectives of the operation, the forces involved, the directions of the attacks of the Western Allies and their probable results. The appendices to the plan contain information on the deployment of the Red Army and Western Allies, as well as cartographic material. The time of the Prime Minister's instruction to develop the plan of the operation is not specified, but given the complexity of its preparation, the nature and volume of the documents themselves, there is reason to assume that the Prime Minister's assignment was received by the planners no later than April 1945.

    The assignment was preceded by dark reflections and conclusions that Churchill reproduced in his memoirs:
    “First, Soviet Russia became a mortal threat to the free world;
    secondly, to immediately create a new front against its rapid advance;
    thirdly, this front in Europe should go as far east as possible;
    fourthly, the main and real goal of the Anglo-American armies is Berlin;
    fifthly, the liberation of Czechoslovakia and the entry of American troops into Prague are of the utmost importance;
    sixthly, Vienna, in fact the whole of Austria, must be governed by the Western powers, at least on an equal basis with the Russian Soviets;
    Seventhly, it is necessary to curb Marshal Tito’s aggressive claims against Italy…”

    In April 1945, when Vienna, Berlin, and then Prague were beyond the reach of the Western Allied forces, Winston Churchill saw the creation of a “new front” against the Red Army as even more urgent.

    The developers of the operation were guided by the following initial instructions, which were given upon receiving the assignment:

    — the operation will be carried out under conditions of its full support by public opinion in the British Empire and the United States, and, consequently, the high morale of the Anglo-American armed forces;

    — Great Britain and the USA will receive the full support of the armed forces of Poland (the government in exile in London) and can count on the use of Germany’s human reserves and the remnants of its industrial potential;

    — one should not count on the support of the forces of other allied European countries, but take into account the possibility of using their territory and those resources that may be needed;

    - keep in mind the possibility of Russia entering into an alliance with Japan;

    — the beginning of military operations on July 1, 1945.

    The aim of the operation was to force Moscow to submit to the will of the United States and the British Empire. Specifically, it was meant to "drive the Red Army out of Poland." The motives for this decision are not disclosed in the document.

    The idea was further expressed that total war is the only reliable means of achieving the goal and for this it is necessary:

    — to occupy those areas of internal Russia, having lost which, this country will lose the material capabilities to wage war and further resistance;

    - to inflict such a decisive defeat on the Russian armed forces that it would deprive the USSR of the opportunity to continue the war.

    https://historyrussia.org/sobytiya/operatsiya-nemyslimoe-kak-britaniya-planirovala-napadenie-na-sssr.html

    The name reflects the suddenness and unexpectedness of such an operation for the enemy (the USSR), and not at all a doubt in its feasibility.
    1. 0
      26 July 2025 23: 09
      A bit of copypasta.

      Not a little, but a lot, most of which does not concern the plan itself.
      But even in this copypasta they indicated
      were guided by the following initial principles: - to keep in mind the possibility of Russia entering into an alliance with Japan;

      The British had drawn up a plan for this purpose - in case, after the end of the war with Germany, the USSR suddenly did not stop at the lines agreed upon at the Yalta Conference and wanted to revise the Yalta agreements (and Churchill had suspicions about this, which were later confirmed - the USSR refused to implement the Yalta agreements with respect to Japan, for example, and had objections to the Potsdam agreements, laying claim to African lands and a base in the strait), but continued the offensive in Western Europe, uniting with Japan. The plan itself was initially unrealistic, everyone understood this, which is why the plan got its name.
  8. +1
    19 June 2025 07: 41
    The key thing in this article is that a Western journalist wrote about this, but what about our journalists?
    1. 0
      24 July 2025 01: 09
      And Mitrofanov is also a Western journalist.
  9. 0
    19 June 2025 21: 02
    30 percent of the USSR economy was destroyed, 1710 cities, more than 70 villages, 000 factories and plants. And how many people were lost? Who did it? Now they tell us that there were good Germans. Maybe there were! Well, so be it. "Woe to the vanquished!" So it serves them right.
  10. AB
    -1
    20 June 2025 13: 59
    Wow. I learned a lot of new things for myself. Thanks to the author!
  11. +1
    21 June 2025 22: 02
    Another Canadian publicist is pursuing a policy of whitewashing fascism, which is flourishing like crazy in Canada. Data is provided only from "correct" sources.
    I'll dig up so many articles for you that you'll get tired of reading them. You need to filter such content, it's created competently, but here (without specifying what it is) it's probably not necessary
  12. 0
    18 July 2025 22: 10
    Throughout the text, it's not calories, but kilocalories)).
  13. +1
    23 July 2025 17: 40
    It turns out that in Nuremberg, some war criminals were tried by other war criminals - the Brits with their carpet bombing of civilians and the Americans with their attitude towards prisoners. And only (c) "the evil Bolsheviks led by the bloody dictator Stalin" showed themselves to be Human. Not all-forgiving Leopolds, but also did not stoop in revenge to the level of those they were taking revenge on.
    1. -1
      24 July 2025 01: 11
      And the Czechs and Poles simply killed Germans. Everyone. Both prisoners of war and civilians. And Jewish terrorists poisoned them - look at the case of Avva Kovner... who got almost nothing for his crimes. Moreover, one of these terrorists rose to the very top of power in Israel...
  14. 0
    13 September 2025 03: 08
    What is this??? We should feel sorry for German fascism and fascists. The article is provocative, in my opinion.
  15. 0
    18 November 2025 12: 47
    Why do not I feel sorry for them.