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The analytical program "However," with Mikhail Leontyev 09 April 2013

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The world is on the verge of nuclear war. Now how North Korea across America! And that is how she will answer! .. Caribbean crisis number two. It's time to shudder. And Choi, no one shudders?

Recently, Korea has set a record in the number and quality of threats to the Americans and their allies. Denounced a truce, that is, almost declared war. Diplomats and other foreigners are urged to leave the country immediately. A new nuclear test and a demonstration launch of the Musudan ballistic missile with a flight range over 3 thousands of kilometers is being prepared.

Again, note that the test of the warhead is separate, and the rocket separately. In fact, North Korea’s behavior is strictly predictable. As a model Korean answer to generally atypical American actions.

From 1 in March, South Korean and American troops launched the large-scale annual Young Eagle military exercise. In parallel with 11, the "Key Resolve" joint exercises took place in March. As part of the US exercise, the Raptor F-22 fighters were transferred to South Korea, and the B-52 and B-2 strategic bombers carried out bombing in South Korea for the first time, simulating nuclear strikes.

That 60 years after the end of the Korean War, the Americans did not have to work out a nuclear strike on North Korea - and suddenly itch? At the same time, the bright North Korean rhetoric allowed the Americans to deploy anti-missile systems on Guam, in Japan and South Korea. At the same time, we repeat, the new leaders of the State Department and the Pentagon are not inclined to fight. And, in fact, almost pacifists.

“Some cynically-minded experts say,” writes Alexander Del Vall, a well-known French geopolitician, “that the United States for many years turned a blind eye to North Korea and even allowed it to get nuclear weapon. According to them, Pyongyang serves as a “useful enemy” for Washington, a threat that serves as a pretext for the American military presence in the south of China. ”Del Vall even refers to the“ crazy theory walking in certain circles ”that the young North Korean leader brought up in Switzerland was "noted by the" North American intelligence agencies. "

Del Vall, by the way, is himself a conspiracy theorist and a rather cynically minded expert. Moreover, no special conspiracy is needed here. The little virtual propaganda Korean war seems to be needed by Obama as a powerful covering operation at a time when the Americans are trying to make a global turn in their policies in the Middle East. The same turn from insanity, which the American policy of total military intervention in the region has gone into, to normal, pragmatic cynicism. The reversal, which speaks of another well-known conspiracy theorist Thierry Meyssan.

Today, the United States abandons the old logic in the Middle East. Previously, the region was considered by them as a reservoir of petroleum products ...
Now the Americans are convinced that they have achieved energy independence, and consequently, there is no longer any need to contain so many military in the Middle East; on the contrary, it is time to make a smooth turn and redeploy troops from Europe and the Middle East to the Far East in order to prepare for a confrontation with China.

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  1. smart ass
    smart ass April 9 2013 21: 22
    21
    For many years, the United States has knowingly turned a blind eye to North Korea and even allowed it to acquire nuclear weapons. In their opinion, Pyongyang is a "useful enemy" for Washington, a threat that is a pretext for a US military presence south of China. "

    Interesting opinion, very similar to the truth
    1. Botanologist
      Botanologist April 9 2013 22: 08
      +7
      Quote: Clever man
      Interesting opinion, very similar to the truth



      It seems to be true, but in such a racket, someone else might pull the wrong one somewhere. Many do not need one mortar or artillery shot. And you can play out not weakly. There is always room for a stupid occasion.
      1. skeptic
        skeptic April 9 2013 23: 40
        +7
        Quote: Botanologist
        It seems to be true, but in such a racket, someone else might pull the wrong one somewhere. Many do not need one mortar or artillery shot. And you can play out not weakly. There is always room for a stupid occasion.


        No one is firing. Apart from the United States, no one currently needs a war. North Korea is the state of bin Laden in the far east. Who bites a nursing hand?
        1. S_mirnov
          S_mirnov April 10 2013 01: 22
          -5
          It's funny, another gem from a journalist with dual citizenship. If you defend the interests of Israel, you automatically defend the interests of the United States. Here we see such an example. Mikhail is actively trying to present North Korea as some kind of hysterical with a grenade, saying that noble America "even allowed it to get nuclear weapons," and the ungrateful Koreans dared to defend their interests, and did not calmly watch what the US was doing near the borders.
          And how do you like this gem: "At the same time, we repeat, the new leaders of the State Department and the Pentagon are not inclined to fight. And, in fact, they are almost pacifists." - We have seen such "pacifists" !!! fool
          1. Jurkovs
            Jurkovs April 10 2013 07: 12
            -1
            Do not understand. He himself read an article in which Leontiev opposed dual citizenship.
            1. S_mirnov
              S_mirnov April 10 2013 09: 39
              0
              Saying not what they really think, but only what is beneficial is a distinctive feature of our magazines. And still a low level of intelligence.
        2. lubin
          lubin April 10 2013 01: 53
          +2
          That's exactly what war, except the United States, no one needs. Well, they are very big lovers of doing their business with the wrong hands. The question is, how will it all end? Indeed, in the USA, as you know, the crisis is also.
        3. Gluxar_
          Gluxar_ April 10 2013 02: 29
          -1
          Quote: skeptic
          No one is firing. Apart from the United States, no one currently needs a war. North Korea is the state of bin Laden in the far east. Who bites a nursing hand?

          The example is ridiculous and absurd. It’s just that laden and bit, and so the public debt has grown significantly.
    2. Dinver
      Dinver April 10 2013 01: 43
      +1
      It is believed that the UK could blow up the Pacific volcanic ring of fire then little would seem to anyone.
      1. Gluxar_
        Gluxar_ April 10 2013 02: 30
        +3
        Quote: Dinver
        It is believed that the UK could blow up the Pacific volcanic ring of fire then little would seem to anyone.

        What movie is this from?
        1. GELEZNII_KAPUT
          GELEZNII_KAPUT April 10 2013 07: 05
          +1
          DPRKGeddon! laughing
        2. RDS-1
          RDS-1 April 10 2013 10: 16
          0
          Quote: Gluxar_
          What movie is this from?

          From the film entitled "Project T-15", filmed according to the script of the great philanthropist A.D. Sakharov (http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A2-15), but, thank God, has not yet seen the big screen. According to many film critics, in the North Korean remix, the intrigue of the film may be built around a standard shipping container filled with very interesting contents and "accidentally" washed off the deck somewhere in the San Andreas Fault.
    3. Gluxar_
      Gluxar_ April 10 2013 02: 28
      +4
      Quote: Clever man
      It was not in vain that the United States turned a blind eye to North Korea for many years and even allowed it to acquire nuclear weapons. In their opinion, Pyongyang serves as a "useful enemy" for Washington, a threat that is a pretext for a US military presence south of China "Interesting opinion, very similar to the truth

      I would not agree with this opinion. The fact is that many conspiracy theorists constantly go too far. And here, a concrete and real conflict is transformed into a game of intelligence in order to place some elements of missile defense. The United States already places what they want and where they want. They are not bargaining with anyone. And their lack of proper funding slows them down. At any moment they can customize their missile defense ships anywhere and they don’t need a reason. If they focus them on the borders of China today, then control and coverage areas are weakening somewhere. So do not interpret everything as directed against us. the same with bases. The USA already has bases wherever they can afford, including in Kazakhstan and Japan. It makes no sense to start a heavy war to move the base 300 km to the north.

      Today is already 10. Guessing is not long. Either today something will happen, or 14. If everything remains in line with the rhetoric, then this is just a game of nerves. Unfortunately, the DPRK is an outsider in it.
      1. djon3volta
        djon3volta April 10 2013 06: 15
        0
        Quote: Gluxar_
        Today is already 10. Guessing is not long. Or something will happen today, or 14.

        this is due to a document signed by Obama in early January, the deadline expires 3 months later .. that's right.
    4. Tartary
      Tartary April 10 2013 05: 11
      +1
      Quote: Clever man
      Pyongyang serves as a "useful enemy" for Washington, a threat that is a pretext for a US military presence south of China. "

      Interesting opinion, very similar to the truth

      Yes, Yesaul and I discussed this option a few days ago ...
      Yesaul is a clearing for a long time and we agreed with him.

      Campaign Leontiev, and most importantly this conspiracy therapist Del Vall, tracks the discussions on our site - it's nice ... lol

      Of course I'm joking, but that's how it turns out ... request
  2. neri73-r
    neri73-r April 9 2013 21: 22
    13
    The Anglo-Saxons wrote down when the new main Chinese did not go to them, but went to us, they feel they already ate a lot of other people's meat !!!!!!
    1. Chavy
      Chavy April 10 2013 00: 32
      +3
      A daughter at Harvard learns from the main Chinese, and that says a lot.
      1. valokordin
        valokordin April 10 2013 05: 22
        +1
        Quote: Chavy
        A daughter at Harvard learns from the main Chinese, and that says a lot.

        As with us, many children of vice prime ministers, ministers and other corporal persons study there, the withdrawal of cadres for the authorities is being prepared at Harvard.
      2. djon3volta
        djon3volta April 10 2013 06: 16
        0
        Quote: Chavy
        A daughter at Harvard learns from the main Chinese, and that says a lot.

        and if she returned urgently to China, we won’t know about it anyway .. the flight takes several hours.
  3. svp67
    svp67 April 9 2013 21: 24
    +3
    Sensibly. Tomorrow, that is, April 10, "denyuha", His Highness Eun-3. As I understand it, tests of missiles and nuclear warheads are scheduled for this day. Well, let's see how these tests will end and what will happen next. I can say one thing, while our country has only one problem from all this ...
    1. arkady149
      arkady149 April 9 2013 23: 31
      +2
      In fact, in Korea it’s already late in the morning and it’s time to hear something different from the North Korean blackmail that got tired of the news, for example, the info would sound good that the Chinese people in a single impulse, in response to threats from American debtor-owners-aggressors, returned the same native native Chinese lands: Taiwan, Honshu, Hokkaido, Kyushu, Okinawa and Washington DC what was solemn reported To the President of Russia.
  4. neri73-r
    neri73-r April 9 2013 21: 24
    0
    Anglo-Saxons feel that they have already eaten a lot of other people's meat, especially after the new main Chinese went to us, and not to them on their first trip !!!!
  5. Karabin
    Karabin April 9 2013 21: 27
    +1
    If creative comrade Eun takes it, he will shy away "with a warhead separately, and with a missile separately" for someone. To celebrate grandpa's birthday. And he will put to shame the analysts of Del Valle, Thierry Meyssan and Mikhail Leontyev, who joined them.
    1. Ascetic
      Ascetic April 9 2013 22: 27
      +6
      Quote: Karabin
      If creative comrade Eun takes it, he will shy away "with a warhead separately, and with a missile separately" for someone. To celebrate grandpa's birthday. And he will put to shame the analysts of Del Valle, Thierry Meyssan and Mikhail Leontyev, who joined them.


      The main thing is that for now, the Americans are transferring THAAD, Raptor, B-52 and B-2, the Chinese are pulling brigades to Liaoing, the UN is pacifying, international organizations are dislodging humanitarian aid and redistributing it with pleasure and profit; we are always showing Olympic calmness and activity in a completely different region where the Americans supposedly want to leave.

      But in fact, Russian Koreans phoned a South Korean native living near the northern border - and heard: “Yes, everything is quiet with us! These, in the North, go back and forth with flags, and our dad went for a beer ... ".

      For reference, the most powerful charge that a 5 megawatt reactor can produce in Yonben, according to experts, does not exceed 10 kt
      in the case of a hypothetical fall to Moscow, only the city center will spread it - from Teatralnaya to Bolotnaya Square, and the area of ​​radiation infection in this case will hardly go beyond the Boulevard Ring. However, this is not very pleasant, because in the Juche hysteria, North Korean pride can be launched anywhere ...

      1. Stiletto
        Stiletto April 10 2013 16: 40
        0
        Quote: Ascetic
        in Juche hysteria, North Korean pride can be launched anywhere ...

        Yes, but at the same time it is not at all a fact that it will fly anywhere. And the key here will be the very fact of the launch, which will allow the United States in "righteous anger" to start a new round of escalation of democracy in a completely different region. No less, and perhaps more dangerous from the point of view of geopolitics, than the Persian Gulf region.
        1. Gluxar_
          Gluxar_ April 10 2013 18: 58
          0
          Quote: Stiletto
          Yes, but at the same time it is not at all a fact that it will fly anywhere. And the key here will be the very fact of the launch, which will allow the United States in "righteous anger" to start a new round of escalation of democracy in a completely different region. No less, and perhaps more dangerous from the point of view of geopolitics, than the Persian Gulf region.

          They can always start, that's just the probability that everything will turn out higher. And why is the Korean Peninsula more important than the Persian Gulf? Did they find oil there?
  6. domokl
    domokl April 9 2013 21: 31
    +7
    I thought that the smartest .. I counted the Yusovtsi with the Patriots and the Raptor .. But it turns out there are a few ... the author emphasized very clearly .. Bravo!
    1. Committee
      Committee April 9 2013 23: 14
      +2
      I think the raptors with petriots will not be needed here, they will just litter like Fukushima and that's it. (like "dirty" "raw" nuclear technologies) will scare everyone interested in the region, and a couple of claps.
  7. erased
    erased April 9 2013 21: 36
    0
    Quite a possible development of events. But since we do not know and do not know all the details, we can only guess with varying degrees of probability. Pranksters can place bets - the DPRK will throw rockets at "hell knows where" or wait. Are we placing bets, gentlemen?! ..
    1. Committee
      Committee April 9 2013 22: 48
      0
      Already shied away (I think by mistake or by a freelance), she was shot down near Chelyabinsk.
  8. Xroft
    Xroft April 9 2013 21: 40
    0
    No wonder American basketball players come to Eun know that their .....
    1. pav-pon1972
      pav-pon1972 April 9 2013 23: 08
      0
      + Kim Jong-un graduated from the international school in Bern (Switzerland). He studied at school with his brother Kim Jong Chul and his sister Kim Yeo Jung. The banned "KAZACHOK" turns out ...
  9. krasin
    krasin April 9 2013 21: 42
    +2
    In fact, North Korea’s behavior is strictly predictable. As a typical Korean response to generally rather atypical American actions.

    His words, to God in ears.
  10. in reserve
    in reserve April 9 2013 21: 48
    +1
    If not now, then sooner or later this region will explode. I think the war will be here, not with Iran. Yeah wait doomsday. So he should come tomorrow?
    1. Geisenberg
      Geisenberg April 9 2013 22: 16
      +8
      Stop whining already about the judgment day. Hedgehog it is clear that all these Korean threats are idle talk. In your opinion, if the boy has a day, then he will give himself hara-kiri?
    2. Committee
      Committee April 9 2013 23: 02
      +2
      Of course here. Goals are chosen by the teeth. It’s clear what Iran is and what Korea is ...
  11. Alekseir162
    Alekseir162 April 9 2013 21: 53
    +2
    Quote: Clever man
    In their opinion, Pyongyang is a "useful enemy" for Washington

    So it seems to me, somehow all this is strange.
  12. gladysheff2010
    gladysheff2010 April 9 2013 22: 00
    +3
    Leontiev is a sound analyst and conclusions are indestructible.
  13. cth; fyn
    cth; fyn April 9 2013 22: 00
    +3
    But the United States postponed missile tests so as not to provoke Pyongyang) caved in.
  14. Ascetic
    Ascetic April 9 2013 22: 03
    +3
    The next nuclear test and a demonstration launch of the Musudan ballistic missile with a range of over 3 thousand kilometers are being prepared.


    Reminds R-27 KB Makeev (SKB-385), for submarines pr.667A created in the USSR back in the mid-60s as a response to the American Polaris A2. Its range really did not exceed 3000km. How many Koreans have them is not exactly known. They say that after the collapse of the USSR, it was the Makeyevsky engineers, at the invitation of the North Koreans, who helped them create this missile. We had it equipped with a 1Mt warhead

    1. djon3volta
      djon3volta April 10 2013 06: 31
      0
      sorry for Eun there is no SATAN which overcomes missile defense and flies over 10 thousand km .. recourse
  15. Tverichanka
    Tverichanka April 9 2013 22: 13
    11
    So far, Comrade Eun has created the largest hemorrhoids to China and us, allowing for quite legitimate reasons to strengthen the American presence in the region. Moreover, according to international rules, any country with the threat of an attack on its territory has the right to deliver a preventive strike against the aggressor. So the Americans everything turns out just fine here. Plus, there are claims to China about not being able to agree with North Korea, that is. demonstrating some weakness in influencing a neighbor. And there are questions, and who plays Eun in the hand?
    1. skeptic
      skeptic April 9 2013 23: 53
      +2
      Quote: Tverichanka
      So far, Comrade Eun has created the largest hemorrhoids to China and us, allowing for quite legitimate reasons to strengthen the American presence in the region. Moreover, according to international rules, any country with the threat of an attack on its territory has the right to deliver a preventive strike against the aggressor. So the Americans everything turns out just fine here. Plus, there are claims to China about not being able to agree with North Korea, that is. demonstrating some weakness in influencing a neighbor. And there are questions, and who plays Eun in the hand?


      Great question, to the above answer. Everything is like lawyers. Look in America who benefits.
    2. Gluxar_
      Gluxar_ April 10 2013 02: 41
      +1
      Quote: Tverichanka
      So far, Comrade Eun has created the largest hemorrhoids to China and us, allowing for quite legitimate reasons to strengthen the American presence in the region. Moreover, according to international rules, any country with the threat of an attack on its territory has the right to deliver a preventive strike against the aggressor. So the Americans everything turns out just fine here. Plus, there are claims to China about not being able to agree with North Korea, that is. demonstrating some weakness in influencing a neighbor. And there are questions, and who plays Eun in the hand?

      The Americans in this region feel comfortable and haven’t put anything new there yet. There can be no questions to China, the DPRK is about the DPRK. Moreover, why everyone is kept for fools. Put everything upside down. North Korea does not threaten the United States, it only warns that it has the right to retaliate in case of provocation. So international law is on the side of the DPRK, no matter how this country sounds. Many have already forgotten why it all began. It began with the provocation of the United States and Kazakhstan, which began massive exercises near the border with the DPRK. And before that there were information provocations from the official media of the Republic of Kazakhstan. When it was claimed that in the DPRK it was a revolution, then the terrorist attack and the killing of In. According to international standards, such actions are recognized as aggression against the state.
      So if there is a war, and then a trial and a court. That the United States can be stuck on such reporters that little seems. Of course, if the court is fair and under the patronage of the G-20.
      1. Ruslan67
        Ruslan67 April 10 2013 03: 46
        +2
        Quote: Gluxar_
        Of course, if the court is fair and under the patronage of the G-20.

        Then BRICS is more likely
        Quote: Gluxar_
        It began with the provocation of the United States and Kazakhstan, which began massive exercises near the border with the DPRK.

        No matter how we try to pinch the states, it’s difficult to call the annual exercises in which nothing flies across the border a provocation request
        1. Gluxar_
          Gluxar_ April 10 2013 14: 13
          0
          Quote: Ruslan67
          No matter how we try to pinch the states, it’s difficult to call the annual exercises in which nothing flies across the border a provocation

          Truth ? Something that every exercise of the Russian Federation and Belarus in Poland is called a provocation, in the south, in general, they are not called preparation for war.
          From the point of international law, exercises are not a direct act of aggression. However, given the statement by one of the parties that the exercises are openly hostile in nature and the country is preparing in response. In turn, even a small provocation in such an environment gives the DPRK the right to retaliate. and if without the exercises even terrorist attack or random shelling could still be hushed up somehow, then in the current situation the DPRK would have legal rights to defend itself. After all, it’s hard to say an incoming projectile is random or is it the beginning of something more.
          So they provoke the US situation.
  16. UFO
    UFO April 9 2013 22: 17
    +2
    Eun, of course, plays his role of "food racketeer" conscientiously, but "ears grow" from Beijing is undeniable. The States owe too much gold to China, but they do not want to give it away. Both superpowers are playing the "Korean card", they are afraid of a big war, and such a mini-TVD on the peninsula can happen, the crisis must somehow be overcome. And the Chinese want to see amerovskie guts on bayonets, and the States understand this, so they are pulling together the troops.
  17. SPACE
    SPACE April 9 2013 22: 17
    +1
    We capture the UK with 1 miles. army of a couple of trivia and what will be the answer of the Americans? They won’t survive another war, so they will wipe themselves out. You can choke with a bone. our enemy, the enemy is our friend.
    1. Committee
      Committee April 9 2013 23: 07
      0
      Been through. Easy. This is not even Afghanistan and certainly not Iraq. Crumpled on one or two. They entered Iraq, an excuse - they were looking for weapons of mass destruction, it turned out that he was not there, no one even choked with shame, but there is no need to look, everything is in plain sight.
      1. SPACE
        SPACE April 9 2013 23: 24
        +5
        Afghanistan and Iraq have been wrinkling for 10 years, they just look very rumpled themselves, the sequestration came to them ...
      2. ramzes1776
        ramzes1776 April 9 2013 23: 28
        +7
        Quote: Committee
        This is not even Afghanistan and certainly not Iraq. Crumpled on one or two.

        North Korea will abruptly steer Afghanistan with Iraq, taken together. The northerners have one big advantage, strong morale and patriotism. They will fight to the last. They have nothing to lose.
        1. Committee
          Committee April 10 2013 03: 14
          -3
          You forget that this is the so-called "eastern" type of "spirit", as for the Afghans, forgive me, fighters, with all due respect to the Koreans - heaven and earth. Mujahid to compare with Koreans ... It's like in that dispute: "my dad will beat your dad"
          1. ramzes1776
            ramzes1776 April 10 2013 13: 28
            +2
            Quote: Committee
            as for the Afghans, then the soldiers are sorry, with all due respect to the Koreans - heaven and earth

            Get your "brave" mujahideen from the mountains to the plain and there will be no wet place left of them.
            1. Gluxar_
              Gluxar_ April 10 2013 14: 16
              0
              Quote: ramzes1776
              Get your "brave" mujahideen from the mountains to the plain and there will be no wet place left of them.

              Yes, it's not even in the mountains. The fact is that the majahideen are terrorists, and it is always difficult to fight armies with terrorists. However, terrorists are not very functional.
              1. Farik
                Farik April 10 2013 14: 34
                +3
                Quote: Gluxar_
                The fact is that the majahideen are terrorists

                You want to say that the USSR fought terrorists in Afghanistan? Do not confuse the terrorists with well-organized and armed groups. And the Arabs were by no means the Arabs, but the Vietnamese.
                1. Gluxar_
                  Gluxar_ April 10 2013 14: 45
                  +1
                  Quote: Farik
                  You want to say that the USSR fought terrorists in Afghanistan? Do not confuse the terrorists with well-organized and armed groups. And the Arabs were by no means the Arabs, but the Vietnamese.

                  In fact, yes, with the terrorists. As a rule, there were no direct clashes, there was no front. And the USSR fought not only with the Mujahideen, but also against the United States and NATO, as well as the Sunni Middle East, plus all sorts of vagrants. Unlike, for example, today's one, where no one but a few Arabs helps the Taliban, and NATO is all the same.
                  It's about something else, that terrorists are very dangerous. But by themselves they do not pose a direct threat to the state of the interventionist. The DPRK, on ​​the other hand, has both a terrorist potential and a more than combat-ready army. Accordingly, in the event of an attack on the DPRK, the United States may simply lose outright, and not only suffer "irreparable losses."
                  That is what it is about.
          2. Gluxar_
            Gluxar_ April 10 2013 14: 15
            +1
            Quote: Committee
            You forget that this is the so-called "eastern" type of "spirit", as for the Afghans, forgive me, fighters, with all due respect to the Koreans - heaven and earth. Mujahid to compare with Koreans ... It's like in that dispute: "my dad will beat your dad"

            Well, someone with whom to compare. At least the Asians were hitting the Americans at least for the bread, if you suddenly forgot.
        2. kostyan77708
          kostyan77708 April 10 2013 07: 23
          +1
          and plus all this nuclear weapons, and this is something!
      3. Gluxar_
        Gluxar_ April 10 2013 02: 44
        0
        Quote: Committee
        Been through. Easy. This is not even Afghanistan and certainly not Iraq. Crumpled on one or two. They entered Iraq, an excuse - they were looking for weapons of mass destruction, it turned out that he was not there, no one even choked with shame, but there is no need to look, everything is in plain sight.

        They entered Iraq only because then the Russian Federation as such was not there, and China was only just beginning to raise its head. The USA with its intrigues in Afghanistan and Iraq missed its opportunity to gain a foothold as a super power. Today the situation is different. And the world remembers and increasingly recalls American lies, because the United States and lose their political influence in different parts of the world.
        1. Committee
          Committee April 10 2013 03: 18
          -4
          The Russian Federation has always been and has not gone anywhere, as for China - they "raised their heads" on October 16, 1964, a long time ago. The world at the time of the invasion of Iraq to this day has not really changed much, the same lies, the same tricks, the same noodles.
          1. Gluxar_
            Gluxar_ April 10 2013 14: 30
            0
            Quote: Committee
            The Russian Federation has always been and has not gone anywhere, as for China - they "raised their heads" on October 16, 1964, a long time ago. The world at the time of the invasion of Iraq to this day has not really changed much, the same lies, the same tricks, the same noodles.

            Russia was, is and will be. This is a well-known truth. But this is not about that, but about geopolitical influence. The country could not make sovereign decisions at that time. Yugoslavia is also part of the "tribute". There was no China then either.
            If you understand anything at all about geopolitics and its connection with the economy, then you will not write nonsense. In 64, China's GDP was $ 23 million. In 2001, only $ 1,6 trillion, and only today, in 2013, it handled $ 8,3 trillion. That is, the capabilities of China from 64 to 2003 have grown 70 times, and in relation to 2012 358 times. However, to gain any real weight in world politics, China's GDP level in 2003 was not enough. And given the fact that major modernization and renovation of the state and the army is a year-on-year process, China is only now beginning to acquire the power that its GDP allows it. Hence the elementary conclusion that at the time the US began their campaigns, no one could resist them. At the same time, the potential of the United States over the past ten years has not only grown, but even decreased. While his two geopolitical rivals have grown exponentially. that is why the United States today is not a hygemon, but only the first among equals. Moreover, the first one who is very angry and rallies many other "equals" against himself.
    2. old rocket man
      old rocket man April 9 2013 23: 24
      +2
      Quote: SPACE
      We capture the UK with 1mil. army of a couple of trivia and what will be the answer of the Americans?


      The "peace-loving" South Korea's army is only slightly inferior in number to the North, but technically it is significantly superior, and there are more than enough Americans in South Korea to support the South Koreans, so there will be no easy walk
  18. Boa kaa
    Boa kaa April 9 2013 22: 47
    17
    Quote: domokl
    very clearly accentuated the author .. Bravo!

    Maitre! do not worry! If you had the information that M. Leontiev uses, then these conclusions would probably belong to you. This is by the way.
    Essentially: American analysts have long figured out that the vector of world development is moving to the Asia-Pacific region. And China is going to dominate there! N E P O R I D O K! In the sense: the non-Amerian order is established in the most dynamically developing region of the world. World hegemon can not allow this. But getting into the brazen is, as it were, showing your true face (otherwise we don’t know it!) And intentions. NOT COMILFO! But.
    Therefore, apparently, the cover operation with a loud slamming of doors, statements and so on is included.
    Under a plausible pretext, states will crawl into the region for the most "do not play". Kim-3 will show itself to be a "worthy successor of the Great Pope's cause," and the poor North Koreans will be pleased with this, and the states will seriously and for a long time lay their paws on the pulse of the region.
    Yes, they "left" the Middle East, but! After the most serious counterparts of Israel have been destroyed - Egypt, Libya, Iraq, almost Syria, Iran is next. Now Israel itself can hooligan in the region: no one will give it a nickle (except Iran!). IMHO.
    PS Maybe I'm wrong, but intuition suggests? that it will be so.
    1. Committee
      Committee April 10 2013 03: 24
      -1
      "Dominate" in the Asian region is possible only through "similar", sorry, amers, but they did not come out with their Negro-Latin-Jewish-Irish origin, well, this is the mentality of Asians, they can only trust their peppy-eyed, and not this " long-snouted monsters "- as the Chinese call us, for example.
      1. Farik
        Farik April 10 2013 14: 37
        +2
        Quote: Committee
        "Dominate" in the Asian region is possible only through "similar", sorry, amers, but "they did not come out with a snout"

        And in Japan, whose bases are.
        1. Gluxar_
          Gluxar_ April 10 2013 14: 54
          0
          Quote: Farik
          And in Japan, whose bases are.

          You will not be able to dominate with bases alone. And of course it is foolish to refer to "mentality". You can dominate only through the creation of institutions for the management and movement of the economy. The cultural aspect is also important, but by no means the only one. In fact, the US has dominated the region for decades. And China's rise is not a new dominant force, but a threat to US dominance. Hence the conflict. Oddly enough, but Russia can also claim its rights to this region, but this requires the development of the Far East, so this is a prospect for the future. It doesn't matter how you look, what matters is what you do and what you own.
  19. AK-47
    AK-47 April 9 2013 22: 54
    +1
    ... the North Korean leader, who was brought up in Switzerland for a long time, was "taken notice" by the North American intelligence services ...

    I am amused. lol
    1. sincman
      sincman April 9 2013 23: 24
      +5
      There is nothing funny about this. Or have you never heard of the major children who love to live in a big way to the applause of the Western audience? Money and unlimited power always corrupt ...

      Think about the connection between current events and this event:
      WASHINGTON, Mar 1 - RIA Novosti, Denis Voroshilov.
      The visit of basketball player Dennis Rodman to the DPRK is private, he does not represent the United States in North Korea, said State Department spokesman Patrick Ventrell.

      Five-time NBA champion with Detroit and Chicago, Rodman, who arrived in North Korea on Tuesday, met with the country's leader as part of the recording of a news TV show, due to air in April on HBO. Photos published by a number of American media show sports star and North Korean leader Kim Jong-un laughing as he watches a basketball match between North Korea and the Harlem Globtrotters at Pyongyang Stadium.
      At the same time, the representative of the foreign ministry noted, the State Department does not plan any meetings and consultations with Rodman after his trip.

      “The practice is that US citizens who make private trips to the DPRK do so on their own initiative and we do not hold meetings with them following the trip. However, if these citizens themselves want to tell us something, we are always ready to meet with them. and listen, "said Ventrell.


      РИА Новости http://ria.ru/world/20130301/925412536.html#ixzz2Pzl2P2bV

      As the thief says and the hat is on ... In our technotronic time, when electronic delivery of information can be intercepted by special services of opponents, very important orders are delivered by word of mouth by couriers. This is the only way to ensure the confidentiality of information.
      1. Gluxar_
        Gluxar_ April 10 2013 02: 51
        +2
        Quote: sincman
        As the thief says and the hat is on ... In our technotronic time, when electronic delivery of information can be intercepted by special services of opponents, very important orders are delivered by word of mouth by couriers. This is the only way to ensure the confidentiality of information.

        What nonsense. First you look at Rodmn’s interview on arrival in the United States, and then draw any conclusions. Eun invited Rodman to show that he is an adequate person, and not the monster with which the state media and many forum users draw him. Rodman is a media star and has weight in American society, so many listen to his opinion. So this is an ordinary lobbying company against the lies of the United States. No wonder Eun studied in the West, he knows how to reflect all their dirty tricks.
        1. Committee
          Committee April 10 2013 03: 26
          0
          Yes, and besides Rodman, as you know, he is not quite an adequate person.
  20. UFO
    UFO April 9 2013 23: 10
    0
    Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
    . And there China is going to dominate!

    He is also surrounded by a "mosek brigade" who need a protective owner.
    Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
    Yes, they "left" the Middle East, but!

    It is not yet known how their redeployment from Afghanistan will end. Could it have worked - "left to stay", and will Iran survive during this "redeployment"? Why are the deadlines being postponed, something is not ready, they are waiting for Syria?
  21. Tektor
    Tektor April 9 2013 23: 51
    0
    Why don't we drive a submarine to the shores of Sevkorei and do with the states what Kim Jong-un promises? To play along, so to speak, to the singing "duet" ... You can just lay a nuclear mine at the bottom of the Mariana Trench: a wave will wash away Japan, and then figure out where the "earthquake center" was ...
  22. Smith
    Smith April 10 2013 00: 18
    +4
    The more Eun scares that he will start a war, the more obvious that it will not.
    So do not prepare for war. We need either suddenness or an ultimatum.
    They made fun of the threat of the "territory of the US" (Guam).
    It was no accident that a black monkey with nose rings arrived.
    Eun’s activities are useful to everyone, especially the United States. For us, one harm.
    Eun understands that the war unleashed by him will be his last,
    and they feed him so well.
    Therefore, his name is Pont, Eun Pont.
    The only danger is that the USA itself can provoke
    and cause a war, this danger is real.
    But whether they need it, I doubt it.
    A united Korea will be much stronger and US troops there will not be needed.
    1. Committee
      Committee April 10 2013 03: 28
      -1
      Absolutely!
  23. waisson
    waisson April 10 2013 01: 05
    +2
    The Americans really need Eun the Treacher as an occasion to strengthen their power in the region. Here, the goal is China, with its rapidly developing economy, which is pushing them to the background and they are used to being the first everywhere.
    1. Committee
      Committee April 10 2013 03: 29
      0
      Never in Asia will the Amers be the first. The mentality is not that of Asians.
  24. Canep
    Canep April 10 2013 06: 01
    +1
    The sun sets in the west and rises in the east. Liked: - "The United States perceived the Middle East as a reservoir for oil products", and then what energy independence of the United States does this Frenchman say. The shale "revolution" is a PR action to bring down gas prices, nothing more.
    1. Gluxar_
      Gluxar_ April 10 2013 14: 33
      0
      Quote: Canep
      The sun sets in the west and rises in the east. Liked: - "The United States perceived the Middle East as a reservoir for oil products", and then what energy independence of the United States does this Frenchman say. The shale "revolution" is a PR action to bring down gas prices, nothing more.

      The problem of the West is that they themselves begin to believe in their own propaganda. Let them have a "shale revolution" today. And let them "leave" the Middle East today. Tomorrow, in 5-10 years, they will not return, and only the contaminated area will remain at home.
  25. FC SKIF
    FC SKIF April 10 2013 06: 56
    +2
    So the young and the muggy plays into the hands of the states. The more militant shouts, the more Amer’s troops must be kept in the district, and now they (troops) are not due to the transfer of the center of gravity of all forces, but because of this unpredictable fool.
    1. Gluxar_
      Gluxar_ April 10 2013 14: 37
      0
      Quote: FC Skif
      So the young and the muggy plays into the hands of the states. The more militant shouts, the more Amer’s troops must be kept in the district, and now they (troops) are not due to the transfer of the center of gravity of all forces, but because of this unpredictable fool.

      Every American soldier outside of the United States costs tens of thousands of dollars a month. Each take-off of their aircraft costs from 16 to 40 thousand US dollars. What kind of concentration of troops can be discussed is not the situation today. The United States really does not want a mess, because they are spending so much to scare the DPRK and bargain for themselves from the Allies. New contracts or political decisions. But all these movements overload the already stalled US economy. To maintain tension, the region of China can give North Korea $ 5 million a day, and the United States spends more than 200 on all shares. Hence the conclusion, who else will be in the red.
  26. bap063
    bap063 April 10 2013 07: 43
    0
    Climbing to China. Americans themselves see themselves digging a grave and probably forever!
    After all, China is not Iraq and Libya and Serbia, but a very serious adversary, and even less relations with Russia cannot be discounted, much less with its mythically created army, at the first normal rebuff, their vaunted soldiers will flee like rats from a sinking ship ( saw know). China is not so educated, there will not fight for money.
    1. screw cutter
      screw cutter April 10 2013 11: 09
      0
      "China is not brought up so, they will not fight for money." As far as I heard in Chinese traditions, to sit on the shore and wait for the enemy's body to swim by. And we all know how they fought with the Japanese and in Domansky. confirmed.
  27. OlegYugan
    OlegYugan April 10 2013 12: 01
    0
    Gentlemen, don’t you be so naive, if there is a third world war, then it will not be like the first or second. Here you need to figure out all the options and do not refuse exotic too. For example, Dinver threw the idea somewhere already taken. - SK lays a torpedo or other means of delivery of nuclear weapons near the Ring of Fire, so that Shandarahnut in the mouth of the volcano. How exactly this will happen is not important, but it is important that the RESULT.
    - Tsunami meters 50 high. Earthquakes. Amerovsky fleet at the bottom of the sea. Japan washed away. etc. etc.
    - And the Northerners took refuge in the mountains!
    PS
    Well, a little unconventional thinking.
    PSS
    This scenario was developed by Academician Sakharov.
  28. ed65b
    ed65b April 10 2013 15: 57
    0
    Yes, look at Una - the boy was at the helm, ambitions again have to be cooler than dad. play enough cool. While it is clear noise and din and no one takes it seriously. Even the diplomats did not leave, and this is in the face of a nuclear strike. Imagine the Russian Federation will say this in relation to Qatar and the Saudis. (It may be necessary to say, in fact, to declare them countries sponsors of world terrorism) I think deeps would fly home in an hour. And here .... Dad went for a beer and that’s it.))))
  29. pa_nik
    pa_nik April 10 2013 16: 17
    0
    Quote: Botanologist
    It seems to be true, but in such a racket, someone else might pull the wrong one somewhere. Many do not need one mortar or artillery shot. And you can play out not weakly. There is always room for a stupid occasion.


    If the version of M. Leontyev is true (but it seems) nothing will happen ... At least a mine, at least a shell .. They will play with zhelvami, bomb the border village with North Korean peasants, and this will converge. recourse
  30. dmitreach
    dmitreach April 10 2013 16: 27
    +1
    I looked at the Opinion program on the Internet: the situation on the Korean Peninsula is heating up. (Presenter Evelina Zakamskaya) In the program, they gave the floor to Ariel Cohen (leading expert of the American Heritage Foundation, USA, originally from Odessa ... a very interesting person).
    Mr. Cohen sang sweetly, citing headlines in the American media. Say: America is peace-loving, poor and unhappy, going through a crisis and a sequestration of the military budget, and this, along with other adversities, and then the DPRK "threw a pig" ... Like: we did not want such unnecessary and unjustified expenses, and even moreover (!) here are the multibillion-dollar figures showing budget cuts!
    And stuff like that.

    Now I am completely puzzled by the question; if Suddenly America changes its mind to cut back on aircraft carriers or something similar in terms of costs (missile defense, for example), raising its eyes clear to the sky and sprinkling ashes on its head, will this not explain the root cause of the conflict in the DPRK circle?
    That is: The American military-industrial complex and the military are losing a large piece of bread, should they not look for ways to scare everyone and everything, so that the congressmen would change their decision? The topic of test tubes with "Ariel" is now bad manners, but if the DPRK is pressed, then ... there is no better Friend than Eun.
    They "found each other".


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wXmygAVDXs
    Dialogue with Cohen with TS 00: 27: 50: 00.