The phenomenon of public debt: what awaits the Russian economy?

28 503 136
The phenomenon of public debt: what awaits the Russian economy?

If you conduct a sociological survey among Russians, which will test their knowledge of economics, then with a high degree of probability it will turn out that even people who are very far from this topic are familiar with such a concept as "national debt". Unfortunately, often their knowledge of this term is limited to superficial ideas that they receive from not always reliable sources. In fact, this issue requires deep study. This is what this article will be devoted to.

Let's start with the most important thing, what is called public debt? In simple terms, it is the sum of the state's credit obligations. Everything works on exactly the same principle as with individuals. If a person takes a loan from a bank, he becomes indebted to it for the amount of this loan and interest on it. Similar operations are carried out by states, most often this is done to cover a deficit budget or implement various capital-intensive projects. If the country's authorities find themselves in a situation where they have no funds left to pay off the debt, then a default is declared (the state declares itself bankrupt), which entails rising prices, ruin of banks and a decrease in the quality of life of citizens.



Now let's talk a little about the US national debt. Why has this topic remained so relevant for many residents of our country for quite a long time? Here, too, everything is quite simple: most domestic media outlets are extremely sensitive to news items that could present the United States in a negative light. One of these topics is precisely the size of their national debt. Thus, quite recently, Russian news The publications happily informed their readers that the national debt of our long-time antagonist had reached $36,6 trillion (123% of the US GDP), emphasizing that the national debt of the Russian Federation, for example, is 115 times smaller. It is worth admitting that the situation with the national debt of the United States is indeed quite alarming, since many economists agree that the ratio of national debt to GDP should not exceed 60%.

Currently, the US government is forced to spend more than one trillion dollars a year (about 4% of GDP) on servicing the national debt (repaying the amount borrowed and paying interest on it). Experts note that if the US national debt limit is not increased in the near future, the country's authorities will not be able to fulfill their obligations to service it by summer. In simple terms, the United States will be forced to take out another loan to be able to pay off their debts that they have taken on previously, or declare default (bankruptcy). Many people have personally found themselves in such a situation, so it will not be difficult for them to assess the danger of falling into such a debt hole. However, the US government is confident in a favorable outcome. Most recently, the country's Finance Minister Scott Bessent boldly stated that the United States will never allow a default, although some experts do not share his optimism.

It is also worth remembering that the US dollar has the status of a global reserve currency. It is the main investment asset for many countries. Here it is necessary to understand that the de-dollarization proclaimed by the Russian authorities in recent years will not change the current state of affairs, because it is aimed at abandoning the dollar in international settlements with other countries, and this, frankly speaking, is a different function of money.

Thus, candidate of economic sciences Alexandra Morozkina in her interview with the magazine "Russia in Global Affairs" emphasizes that in the sphere of reserve currencies the only alternative to the dollar at the moment is gold, but it is difficult to call it a full-fledged replacement. That is why a possible default in the USA in any case will be a serious blow to the entire world economy, and Russia will not be an exception. Of course, this will most acutely affect the states that are holders of American government debt (owners of government bonds issued by the US Treasury Department). Such countries include: Japan, China, Great Britain, Luxembourg and the Cayman Islands.

Now let's talk a little about the national debt of the Russian Federation. At the moment, it is about 28 trillion rubles (only 14% of the Russian Federation's GDP). However, not everything is so rosy, it's all about the high interest rates at which the Russian Federation borrows money from domestic borrowers. The high level of the key rate set by the Central Bank leads to the fact that servicing the national debt is becoming more and more expensive. Thus, in 2024, the authorities of our country spent 2,3 trillion rubles (about 1,1% of GDP) on these purposes.

The situation is quite contradictory, high interest rates lead to higher costs of servicing the national debt. The simplest way out of the situation could be a reduction in the key rate by the Central Bank of the Russian Federation. However, you don’t have to be a certified economist to understand that a decrease in the key rate in the current economic reality will almost immediately lead to an acceleration of inflation, which the Russian authorities have been trying to combat for several years now.

In conclusion, we would like to add that in this article we wanted to tell our readers that there are many pitfalls hidden behind the term "public debt". The size of the public debt is one of the fundamental macroeconomic indicators that allows us to analyze the state of the economy of any state, but it is incorrect to compare absolute indicators of public debt, forgetting about its structure, cost of servicing and terms of providing borrowed funds. We are often misled by clickbait news headlines that loudly declare that the economy of a particular country will be destroyed in the coming months under the weight of this very public debt, but you should definitely not take such statements at their word. Economics is a complex science in which most processes are inextricably linked, which means that it is impossible to make unambiguous conclusions about the financial well-being of any country based on the absolute value of the public debt alone. This is what we recommend our readers not to forget.
136 comments
Information
Dear reader, to leave comments on the publication, you must sign in.
  1. +25
    10 June 2025 04: 15
    However, you don’t need to be a qualified economist to understand that a downward change in the key rate in the current economic realities will almost immediately lead to an acceleration of inflation, which the Russian authorities have been trying to combat for several years now.

    I don’t have a special economic education, but I assume that the entire complexity of inflationary processes in the country is connected with the state’s inability to organize the economy in such a way that the cost of a newly created product would be several times higher than the cost of consuming everything and everyone.
    Without examining the real efficiency of the Central Bank, without blocking its activity in issuing licenses to banks and financial and credit organizations, without taking into account the currency funds floating away in an unknown direction; without comparing the expediency of paying salaries to a group of allocated "elites" that differ by orders of magnitude from the incomes of the main part of citizens, the strange and harmful to the economy continuation of payments on shares (for what and for what reasons, given that the bulk of the population has lost its share of the privatized due to the "evaporation" of investment and voucher funds and the disappearance from the horizon of the main privatizer himself); a strange approach to the tax system, where theft and robbery of the population that creates material values ​​by people with worthless rights to property and resources, often not living in the country, is encouraged...
    What else is needed for inflation in the country to become a natural inevitability?
    This situation will remain as long as the country has:
    1. +21
      10 June 2025 05: 27
      I assume that the entire complexity of inflationary processes in the country is connected with the state’s inability to organize the economy in such a way that the cost of a newly created product would be several times higher than the cost of consuming everything and everyone.

      The problem is that we do not produce that much, especially goods that would be in demand in the ordinary economic and household activities of the population. At the same time, with the beginning of the SVO, the state is forced to pour huge amounts of money into sectors whose finished products do not affect the economic life of the country in any way, relatively quickly perishing during military operations. Nevertheless, in connection with these state investments, people employed in industries related to the military-industrial complex, for the first time in many years, felt a significant increase in wages (and what kind of growth the owners of these enterprises felt can only be guessed at), which allowed them to more actively buy categories of goods that were previously inaccessible to them. The same applies to SVO participants and their families, especially from peripheral, depressed regions. Thus, today's hyperinflation, in fact, has two sources: huge budget expenditures on the military sector, which do not bring the state any direct dividends, and the growth of the purchasing power of a fairly wide category of the population with a very limited production base of consumer goods. The next stage that we may face may be stagflation - the same inflation, but accompanied by a lack of economic growth, which will be associated with the exhaustion of the capabilities of the military-industrial complex, which, due to government appropriations, has been the driver of the entire economy for the last couple of years, which in turn will be associated with both purely technological processes (exhaustion of reserve capacity), and with the lack of available labor available on the labor market, as well as with the state reaching the limit of funds that it can/is capable of directing for the needs of the military-industrial complex.
      1. -16
        10 June 2025 10: 02
        It is an illusion that Russia does not produce that much. In fact, it does, it's just that there are only 150 million of us, which is 1,8% of the world's population. At the same time, Russia accounts for 3,5% of the world's GDP in PPP terms - about the same as Japan, but Germany is already lagging behind and will never catch up. The author is absolutely right that our small debt in absolute terms is expensive to service because of high rates. High rates are the result of the financial and economic war that the West has been waging against us since 2014, and since 2022 the war has become total (trade, payments, culture, sports, logistics, civil dialogue, etc.). We are cut off from the global capital market. Of course, we lose from this, but sovereignty is much more expensive. However, the West is losing as well. The nightmare that the German economy is experiencing in 2023-2024 is a direct result of their own sanctions. It will not get any better in 2025. They have been standing still or falling for 10 quarters in a row. Our borrowings will now become cheaper - the rate has gone down and at the end of the year they expect 17%, and at the end of 2026 -12%. If the war ends, it will be even faster.
        1. +13
          10 June 2025 10: 06
          Quote: Glagol1
          At the same time, Russia accounts for 3,5% of the world's GDP in PPP terms - about the same as Japan, but Germany is already lagging behind and will never catch up.

          PPS is a fairy-tale indicator that reflects only the desire to look a little better in one's own eyes. It has nothing to do with real life.
          1. -3
            10 June 2025 15: 15
            Let me disabuse you of your own misconceptions. The GDP indicator in PPP is used as a base by both the IMF and the World Bank. Why is that? It's simple. If you produced a kilogram of beef in your country and it costs $10, then I produced the same beef in my country, but this kilo costs $8. This does not mean that I produce 20% less, it's just cheaper for me. If in your country a dentist put a filling in for you for $100, and in mine - for $60, this does not mean that 40% more patients were served, but only that yours is more expensive. At the same time, a dentist in my country may even earn more - taxes, rent, salaries of auxiliary personnel, cost of materials, etc. This is the basics of economics.
            By the way. In terms of PPP, it is the rich Western countries that are losing out, because the prices for everything or almost everything are high. Do you know how much a taxi costs from the center of Oslo to the airport?! $100 or 8000 rubles. And from the center of Moscow to Sharik? 3000... Well, that's just for you to think about, as they say in one southern city. No offense.
            1. 0
              12 June 2025 15: 18
              belay And you don't take into account the real income of the population in those countries where a filling costs $100? It turns out to be a paradox. A person can afford five fillings for a hundred, but someone who is over sixty won't have enough for one filling.
              1. -3
                12 June 2025 15: 37
                Nonsense. Taxes are higher there, utilities are terrible, fuel is expensive, etc. When you subtract all this from a salary of 2500 euros, you are left with a grand. That is what is needed for meat, fillings, and everything else.
                1. 0
                  12 June 2025 17: 28
                  Oh yeah! Taxes. "They'll freeze everything"... But in the end there's still enough for four fillings... Yes
        2. +7
          10 June 2025 10: 24
          Quote: Glagol1
          We are cut off from the global capital market.

          Maybe it's time to stop confusing our minds with some kind of far-fetched isolation...
          But our economy is directly linked to the growth of income of a separate group of people, as a result of which the number of billionaires has reached 146, and their total wealth has exceeded 600 billion dollars. If we add to them the 300 billion dollars "beloved" by Siluanov and Nabiullina, then it becomes completely clear why we are always short of something...
          1. 0
            10 June 2025 12: 21
            Quote: ROSS 42
            But our economy is directly linked to the growth of income of a certain group of people, as a result of which the number of billionaires has reached 146,

            And in the "communist" lol China has 1080 billionaires (more than the "capitalists of Germany, England and Russia") and for some reason China has enough of everything.....
            1. +3
              10 June 2025 14: 41
              Quote: your1970
              And in "communist" China there are 1080 billionaires

              However, China has a population of over 1 people, and as of the end of 416, the total length of China's high-speed rail (HSR) network was 000 km.
              This figure is expected to increase to approximately 2035 km by 70.
              Currently, there is not a single railway in Russia that is specifically designed for high-speed travel (speeds over 250 km/h).
              And Chinese billionaires are not looking to permanently reside in London or anywhere else...
              As of 2024, China's total government revenue was 21,97 trillion yuan (about $3,07 trillion), and total expenditure was 28,461 trillion yuan (about $3,98 trillion).
              stop And the Chinese yuan is made the reserve currency...
              1. +3
                10 June 2025 14: 52
                This means that the USSR had lousy communists - since they did nothing of what the so-called "Communist China" did - and instead they gave away their power and state...
                Or in China it is not communism - but suddenly state capitalism. Under the communists it was impossible to have 70% of industry (including mining and processing plants) and 86% of the banking sector in private ownership. The notorious "exploitation of man by man" - in its purest form.
                2 million people work for Aliexpress

                Quote: ROSS 42
                And Chinese billionaires are not looking to permanently reside in London or anywhere else...
                boo-hoo...
                Bolt cutter ask him - he will confirm that in Londongrad the first place in purchasing luxury real estate is held by the Chinese, and ours are in second place.
                And read about the "Heavenly Network" - where do they bring back corrupt officials from?
                1. +3
                  10 June 2025 19: 12
                  Quote: your1970
                  Or in China it is not communism - but suddenly state capitalism. Under the communists it was impossible to have 70% of industry (including mining and processing plants) and 86% of the banking sector in private ownership.

                  Of course it is. In China, all heavy industry, the production of means of production, is strictly in the hands of the state. Moreover, when private individuals try to get involved, they get a slap on the wrist. And as for sewing T-shirts and producing galoshes, please, anyone who wants to can do that.
                  1. +2
                    11 June 2025 07: 32
                    Quote: Saxahorse
                    In China, all heavy industry, the production of means of production, is strictly in the hands of the state.

                    Bugaga
                    fool the first thing that came to mind was "about sewing T-shirts and making galoshes" - I hope you understand that mining and processing plants all over the world are heavy industry.

                    "Politics, 09 Feb 2015, 08:12 33
                    Founder of China's Largest Mining Company Executed
                    In China, the death sentence was carried out against Liu Han, the founder of the Hanlong group, a company that is one of the world's (!!!) leaders in iron ore mining
                    Founder of China's Largest Mining Company Executed
                    According to the South China Morning Post, Liu Han was sentenced back in May last year. He was found guilty under 13 articles of the criminal code. The investigation established that one of China's richest residents secretly headed a large criminal group involved in murders, illegal casinos and arms trafficking.
                    Hanlong group, which Liu Han founded in 1997 and made it one of the largest suppliers of iron ore in the world, was simultaneously fined 300 million yuan (RUB 3,1 billion) for providing false information to obtain bank loans.
                    According to Hong Kong journalists, Liu Han was closely associated with former head of China's national security Zhou Yongkang, which allowed him to avoid responsibility for a long time."

                    In China major There are 18 state-owned and 8 auto plants belay private (including Geely and Great Wall)

                    And this is in general - it turns out that I have been behind life for a long time, not 75%
                    "96,4 percent of Chinese economic entities are private sector - official data
                    2024-06-13 20:21:00丨Russian.News.Cn

                    BEIJING, June 13 (Xinhua) -- China's State Administration for Market Regulation (SAMR) said the country's By 2024, the number of private business entities in China reached 180,45 million, accounting for 96,4 percent of the total number of business entities in the country.
                    According to the department, this share has grown from 95,5 percent registered in 2019. Currently, there are nearly 55,18 million private enterprises and more than 125,27 million individual industrial and commercial business entities in China.
                    China's private sector plays a key role in developing the country's high-tech and emerging industries.

                    In particular, in production In this sector, private business currently accounts for 96,1 percent of the total number of manufacturing companies in China, and in 2019 this figure was 95,9 percent.

                    The share of private business in scientific research and technical services sector increased from 91,9 percent in 2019 to the current 94,4 percent.
                    1. 0
                      11 June 2025 20: 52
                      Quote: your1970
                      China's private sector plays a key role in developing the country's high-tech and emerging industries.

                      Does this somehow refute the state's dominance in heavy industry? wink
                      1. +1
                        12 June 2025 08: 20
                        Quote: Saxahorse
                        Quote: your1970
                        China's private sector plays a key role in developing the country's high-tech and emerging industries.

                        Does this somehow refute the state's dominance in heavy industry? wink

                        Well, if you have data from the State Administration for Market Regulation of the People's Republic of China, car factories and the history of the world's largest supplier of iron ore - private!!!! Without a single share of the state!! - not a decree belay ...
                        Well, consider further that in China the state dominates heavy industry...
                        hi
                      2. 0
                        12 June 2025 12: 26
                        Quote: your1970
                        China's market, car factories and the history of the world's largest supplier of iron ore - a private one!!!!

                        Since when did car factories become heavy industry? Do you even understand what you're arguing about? wassat
                      3. 0
                        12 June 2025 17: 33
                        Quote: Saxahorse
                        Quote: your1970
                        China's market, car factories and the history of the world's largest supplier of iron ore - a private one!!!!

                        Since when did car factories become heavy industry? Do you even understand what you're arguing about? wassat

                        All-all-all, I absolutely agree with you, all of China's heavy industry belongs to the state. And they are building communism...
              2. +1
                11 June 2025 16: 03
                It is expected that by 2035

                It has already been calculated that China's GDP even in 1840 was the largest in the world. Of course, you can use Chinese successes as much as you like, but at the same time, take into account that China's domestic market is the largest in the world. This is a huge help.
                And Chinese billionaires are not looking to permanently reside in London or anywhere else...

                It's very simple, the export of capital from the country is prohibited. And so many Chinese are looking for ways to "get away"...
                And the Chinese yuan is made the reserve currency...

                Again, because of its GDP. With such a market...
            2. +5
              10 June 2025 18: 07
              Quote: your1970
              for some reason China has enough of everything...

              And what makes you think that China has enough of everything? They have their own problems... But you need to talk about the economy with people who understand at least something about the economy. And on the basis of "...our economy is directly linked to the growth of income of a certain group of people..." you won't have a sensible conversation, and you won't be able to deepen the knowledge of amateurs in this field with a three-paragraph article. You can't teach a first-grader to calculate an integral, no matter how hard you try... So don't even try. All this fodder is useless. Better to talk about the "moon tractor"... wink
              1. -1
                10 June 2025 18: 28
                Quote: Hagen
                All this feed is useless

                Um... with all due respect - you got the pedals mixed up:

                Quote: ROSS 42
                our economy is directly linked to the growth of income of a particular group of people, as a result of which The number of billionaires has reached 146... it becomes completely clear why we are always missing something...

                This is what one of me said. Another, quite logically, in my opinion, objected:

                Quote: your1970
                There are 1080 billionaires in China... and for some reason China has enough of everything...

                And you ran into the second one for some reason, attributing to him on the way something that he didn’t say request laughing
                1. +1
                  10 June 2025 18: 37
                  Quote: Paranoid62
                  And you attacked the second one for some reason

                  I drive according to the rules and do not attack anyone. I only say that debaters in economic issues are not strong, they will not give birth to the truth. What is the point of talking about GDP and government debt and their impact on inflation when people do not have a grasp of the basics. There is an old principle of learning - from simple to complex... In this matter, you can't just jump right in. Unless you make fun of it, looking at .... from the side.
                  1. +2
                    10 June 2025 18: 40
                    Quote: Hagen
                    I am only saying that those who argue in economic matters are not strong and will not give birth to truth.

                    You combined two disputants (one of whom is really... not strong) into one, and scolded the second for the words of the first. laughing

                    Who merely tried to object to the first one, in a language he understood.

                    I don't care about all this, by the way. I just saw a funny moment, laughed... forgot, moved on. hi
                    1. -1
                      10 June 2025 18: 59
                      Quote: Paranoid62
                      I just saw a funny moment and laughed.

                      I'm not talking about them, but about the author... Why write in the trash?
                      1. 0
                        10 June 2025 19: 02
                        Quote: Hagen
                        I'm not talking about them, but about the author...

                        This is who you replied to. This is definitely not the author (picture). That's it, I'm leaving this thread, sorry.
          2. -7
            10 June 2025 15: 19
            A far-fetched cut-off... Under the barbell! Do you even understand what you're talking about? Our banks are even cut off from SWIFT, let alone the credit market. And what do oligarchs have to do with it?! They pay taxes, provide employment for the population, support sports and culture. How should they finance the budget deficit?! This is the government's task, and that's what it does.
          3. -1
            11 June 2025 15: 53
            Maybe it's time to stop confusing our minds with some kind of far-fetched isolation...

            It exists and to deny it is stupid.
            But our economy is directly linked to the growth of income of a certain group of people

            For you, trouble always lies in the too rich. And most often, it is unfounded.
            300 billion dollars "beloved" by Siluanov and Nabiullina,

            You should have first asked why the currency was kept in another country and why in Holland and not in England, for example. And only then expressed dissatisfaction.
        3. +1
          10 June 2025 12: 05
          May I ask: what sovereignty are you talking about? Decent people have not wanted to talk to our "kharant" and his company for a long time. They are simply not allowed anywhere. That is why he does not leave Russia, because any trip could end in The Hague. Only those who want to get something from us talk to us: money, resources, the opportunity to send "valuable specialists" to Russia.
          1. -2
            10 June 2025 15: 25
            Decent people = the West. That's all. And not all of it. The US, Hungary, Slovakia communicate normally. The rest of the world communicates, and quite seriously. Just look at BRICS, the 1st, 3rd, 4th, 8th and 19th economies in the world, and new members. And don't talk about The Hague, remember the courts in Hitler's Germany, okay?
            1. +2
              10 June 2025 15: 45
              Yeah, BRICS is just what we need. Now our "financiers" don't know what to do with the Everest of Indian rupees, which even the Indians themselves won't take back (how can we not recall Papandopola here). China sucks resources out of us like a pump sucks water and supplies UAVs to Ukraine (by the way, do you remember whose production the drones were that took off from trucks in Irkutsk and Murmansk, there was also the Amur Region, I think?). The Brazilian economy itself is constantly on the brink. Well, there is also South Africa, whose leader recently brazenly "lectured" our president in Moscow. Hungarian Prime Minister Orban recently expressed his attitude towards the Russians, read VO a few days ago. Vucic and our "brothers" the Serbs also supply shells to the Ukrainians. And how much equipment did the Slovaks supply to the hohols? And the Bulgarians and Greeks? Each of them stubbornly and diligently screws up Russia wherever possible.
          2. -5
            10 June 2025 15: 25
            Quote: fiberboard
            Decent people have not wanted to talk to our "kharant" and his company for a long time now.

            Please clarify who by name (with examples) in your understanding are "decent people", and whether, for example, the US President is one of these people.
            1. +2
              10 June 2025 15: 33
              The US President is concerned. Wherever you look, the Americans dictate everything. By the way, there is an article on the splash screen about Zelensky being invited to the G7 and NATO summit (even though he is a buffoon and a drug addict). We haven't been invited there for a long time.
              1. -6
                10 June 2025 15: 44
                Quote: fiberboard
                Refers to the US President

                So he called here recently, don't you remember? Putin. And how does this relate to yours?

                Quote: fiberboard
                Decent people have not wanted to talk to our "kharant" and his company for a long time now.

                They don't want to, but they talk... strange, right? wink
                1. +1
                  10 June 2025 15: 51
                  He called, he called! Meetings and agreements are needed. They also called Gorbachev. Result: no USSR and NATO at Russia's borders. And I remember Macron even invited journalists to a confidential conversation with our "kharant". This is the highest level of disrespect! And Trump (whom we all had such high hopes for) can talk a lot on the phone, but there is little sense in it.
                  1. -6
                    10 June 2025 15: 57
                    Quote: fiberboard
                    Trump (who we all had such high hopes for) can talk a lot on the phone, but there is little use in it.

                    I don't know about you, but I didn't count on Trump. Speak for yourself, please.

                    You wrote a lot, but still didn't answer the question. Once again: how does the fact that Trump (who, as you said, is one of the "decent people") calls Putin (on his own initiative, mind you) relate to yours

                    Quote: fiberboard
                    Decent people have not wanted to talk to our "kharant" and his company for a long time now.

                    This is a question, I would like a clear answer. Without water and without spreading thoughts on the tree.
                    1. +1
                      10 June 2025 15: 59
                      I understand, please forgive me for not being able to convey my thoughts to your high mind.
                      1. -5
                        10 June 2025 16: 11
                        Quote: fiberboard
                        I understand, please forgive me for not being able to convey my thoughts to your high mind.

                        Well, in fact, it's not all that sad. I understood your idea, as well as your manner of expressing your thoughts.

                        You try to throw in as much negativity as possible:

                        Quote: fiberboard
                        Gorbachev was also called. Result: no USSR and NATO on Russia's borders

                        What does this have to do with my question? That's right, it has nothing to do with it.

                        Quote: fiberboard
                        Macron even invited journalists to a confidential conversation with our "kharant". This is the highest level of disrespect!

                        Yes, and (partly for this reason) Macron is now not shaken hands. Even Trump, whom you respect, is... not very friendly towards him, and Putin simply ignores him. And he is right to do so.

                        Quote: fiberboard
                        Trump (who we all had such high hopes for) can talk a lot on the phone, but there is little use in it.

                        Trump practically approved of the mess that the Russian Federation made in Ukraine from about 3.06 until today inclusive. And he has been quietly silent on this topic for a week now. That is, in this case, Trump has a very specific benefit.

                        You prefer not to see it. Well, that's your right. request
                      2. +4
                        10 June 2025 16: 21
                        Trump has no time for "mess in Ukraine" today, he has his own "mess" in the southern states. By the way, one of our clergymen also warned against such "mess" in Moscow.
                      3. -4
                        10 June 2025 16: 25
                        Quote: fiberboard
                        Trump has no time for the "mess in Ukraine" today, he has his own "mess" in the southern states

                        This is today. I was talking about the period 03-09.06.2025.

                        You're blurring the subject again.

                        Quote: fiberboard
                        By the way One of our clergymen also warned against such a "mix-up" in Moscow

                        This is a known risk factor, they know about it and are preparing to stop it. Without any "warnings from the clergy".

                        By the way, "by the way" - is written together. That's it, good luck laughing hi
                      4. 0
                        10 June 2025 18: 33
                        This is what T9 writes. "Crocus" was already supervised "without warning". In Syria, a large bunch of "valuable specialists" from the Central Asian countries were freed from jihad. They write that they are going to Russia, they say that everyone is allowed here without discrimination.
        4. +4
          10 June 2025 12: 42
          The whole question is WHAT we produce. If we are talking about raw materials or products of 1-2 fractions of processing (fertilizers, petrochemicals, rolled products, etc.), then the average consumer, to put it mildly, doesn't give a damn and once it happened that the stores were empty but the warehouses were bursting with tractors, rolled products and weapons. It's over_Everything_Is_Not_A_Cake_How.

          The same Japan you mentioned produces not raw materials but highly processed products consumed by the masses - consumer goods, consumer goods of various types. As does the PRC. As does the USA, by the way.
          In our case, the situation is not so rosy, we even export our oil to other countries so that they can make gasoline out of it and sell it further. This is complete crap. wassat
          Of course, there have been some advances (in recent decades), but we still have significant competition from foreign goods, and also not the healthiest climate for manufacturers within the country - so domestic "analogues" are breaking through like mushrooms through the asphalt and are definitely not capable of covering the majority of the needs of a person living on a level higher than a bag with holes cut out for the arms and head.
          Even the services segment in our case is based on foreign equipment, standards and components.
          In all fairness, we should have dealt with this problem at a large organizational level long ago, but firstly, we have a certain level of indifference, and secondly, there are some post-Soviet mantras that still sound like "it's impossible and harmful to do everything in one country." Well, it was impossible and harmful two industrial revolutions ago, and now the PRC is stupidly laughing at this nonsense.
          It's time for us to change, damn it.
          1. -4
            10 June 2025 15: 35
            We have already changed, and a lot. Japan may produce something that we don't, but we also make a lot of things that Japan can't handle. Aviation, peaceful atomic energy, lasers - they buy all of that from abroad. No need to blab. If we don't make as many cars, and as well as they do, that doesn't mean we are second-rate.
            1. +5
              10 June 2025 17: 41
              You're right, damn it! It's been a while since I've flown my Russian plane or vacuumed the building of my little nuclear reactor. It's also been a while since I've gone laser hunting.
              They write to you in Russian - CONSUMER GOODS, including technological ones. Which the broad masses of consumers will buy. And you're talking about ballet and rockets, damn louse :-)
              1. -1
                12 June 2025 15: 49
                You're unlucky. I recently flew on a Superjet, and it was great, nuclear power plants supply 20% of all energy in the country and I have it available 365 days a year and it's inexpensive.
                Lasers are not used for hunting, they are more used in industry, medicine and science. As for consumer goods: I recently bought a hockey stick, it is ours, Zaripov makes it. I changed the oil - G-energy, it sounds foreign, but the brand is ours and they make it here. And for dessert, personally for you: my refrigerator is Russian and works great. What ballet is there!
                1. 0
                  14 June 2025 18: 16
                  Do you even know what a refrigerator is made of and what is "Russian" about it, about your refrigerator, except for electricity, and even then it is not a fact that it is from a "Russian nuclear power plant" with Siemens equipment, and not a thermal power plant? 🤣
        5. +3
          10 June 2025 14: 59
          Quote: Glagol1
          At the same time, Russia accounts for 3,5% of the world's GDP in PPP terms - about the same as Japan

          I am terribly far from such a science as economics, but these GDP calculations have always surprised me. Japan has exported 10 million cars in the last 45 years alone (and this is a huge industry), exported a quarter of a trillion dollars in electronics alone in 2024, is firmly among the top three world leaders in shipbuilding, machine tool building, pharmaceuticals, etc., etc., producing and shipping goods for export for more than 700 billion dollars of evergreen paper per year (by the way, our country's exports are 43% less in 2024), but Japan's GDP is 7% less request
          1. -1
            10 June 2025 15: 48
            In the late 80s of the last century, Japan's GDP reached 11% of the world's and continued to grow rapidly by 5-6% per year. The Americans were rapidly losing ground in the automotive industry, electronics, chemistry, shipbuilding, etc. And then Uncle Sam swung his club, forcing the Japanese government and their Central Bank to revalue the yen by 50%. The Japanese, in dollar terms, instantly became super rich, but exports deflated by 2 times, and industry began a long restructuring and the transfer of production to Southeast Asian countries. Since then, GDP has grown by 1% per year, and the share has slid from 11% to 3,5%. They are still rich, but prices!!! A can of beer in a cafe is $ 10 ... They really export a lot, but imports are also very painful. They have no raw materials of their own. Such is the economic model.
            1. +1
              10 June 2025 17: 45
              Quote: Glagol1
              In the late 80s of the last century...

              I once read about the history of the Japanese economy, but my question is different: can a country with a more developed economy, more mass production (which is also confirmed by exports), and larger investments have a smaller GDP?
              1. 0
                12 June 2025 15: 55
                Maybe. Here's an example for you: the USA. They don't produce much, well, airplanes, weapons, food, cars, oil and gas, all that, yes. But a lot is just import. The reason: in this particular case, the "paper economy" - insurance, services, stock exchange, consulting, financial market, etc., as well as retail trade. And it turns out 25 trillion dollars.
                1. +1
                  12 June 2025 17: 30
                  Quote: Glagol1
                  Here's an example for you: the US. They don't produce that much.

                  Compared to whom?
      2. 0
        10 June 2025 14: 13
        people employed in industries related to the military-industrial complex, for the first time in many years, experienced a significant increase in wages (and what kind of growth the owners of these enterprises experienced can only be guessed at),

        Well, first of all, the military-industrial complex is at least 90% state-owned. And the Ministry of Defense pays for products at such prices and with such delays that there is nothing to envy. At our enterprise, the state order is a small part of the manufactured products - and we have not seen any money for it at all. At the same time, it is impossible to refuse the state order.
        1. +1
          11 June 2025 06: 41
          Greetings, Andrey! hi
          Well, you yourself say that for your enterprise the state defense order is not the main source of income, i.e. You act rather as a subcontractor or third-party contractor, but I was talking rather about enterprises for which defense products are the main, and often the only source of income. Take Rubtsovsk Tractor Plant, which today belongs to Kurganmash. For once, its workers began to walk with their heads held high, although all they do today is reincarnate BMP-1s taken from storage to the level of Basurmanin (by installing a turret from a BTR-82), and repair MT-LBs. Approximately the same picture is with Barnaul Transmash, which supplies engines for domestic BMPs. They reactivated old capacities, hired new employees, raised wages. True, Transmash supplied something to the commercial sector, but the volumes there are incomparable. However, apparently, this "celebration of life" is slowly coming to an end. At the same Kurganmash, as friends report, they have already removed the third shift and restored the weekend regime, which means that the volume of the state defense order is being reduced right now.

          As for the forms of ownership, you must agree that the presence of a controlling stake in the hands of the state does not cancel the presence of other shareholders who can quite reasonably demand their share of the profit, and the presence of a large volume of credit obligations turns many enterprises into collateral with an unclear fate. You probably remember how after 14 it turned out that UVZ owed a fabulous sum to Alfa Bank, which was not yet naturalized at that time, which meant that its activities could be stopped at any moment at the request of Mr. Aven, and how then the state had to allocate additional investments to guarantee the solvency of our main tank enterprise. Who said that this is no longer possible just because creditors today are exclusively domestic financial organizations? And remember Rostec, which includes deprivatized enterprises. Most of them successfully find new owners in a year or two, leaving the hands of the state with a good discount, because they are listed as "illiquid", which, however, does not prevent them from bringing profit to their new owners. It's nothing but a miracle.
          1. 0
            11 June 2025 14: 33
            Hi, Kirill! It's been a while since we met. I sent you a private message. I definitely don't want to argue about the topic, that's all, facts are stubborn things. Our company is a subcontractor for Mil (helicopters). The job is small, but the helicopter pilots already owe us 80 million. And there is no light at the end of the tunnel yet.
            From personal experience of working at a state enterprise and with a private owner - the efficiency of work under private ownership is much higher. Although private owners are not without their quirks either.
  2. +6
    10 June 2025 04: 34
    To understand what is happening now, it is useful to look into Russia's past.
    Now the Russian economy is ruled by big capital... roughly speaking, boyars.
    13 major businessmen, as Sivkov said, gathered in the Kremlin to decide the fate of aid to the he-he theaters.
    The interests of the state and private individuals in whose hands the bulk of Russia's finances are concentrated do not coincide...the contradiction is systemic.
    Well, and then everything is according to the classics of Ulyanov-Lenin...for me there are no secrets here and no special economic education is needed...you just need to know political economy well. smile
    1. -8
      10 June 2025 10: 10
      The Russian economy has a public sector of over 50 percent. All our major billionaires live here (Potanin, Alekperov, Mikhelson, etc.), pay taxes regularly, and respect the opinion of the country's leadership, especially Putin. I would even say that the public sector could be smaller, although Rosatom, Rostec, and a number of others are not inferior to private companies in terms of efficiency. All major banks, except Alfa, are either state-owned or under state control. What kind of boyars are we talking about?
      1. 0
        10 June 2025 12: 08
        We believe you, we believe you. Calm down, please. Everyone you named are true patriots.
        1. -1
          10 June 2025 15: 52
          Don't worry so much about patriots. And this concept is elastic. If you honestly pay taxes and live at home - you are already a patriot. Even if you are rich and fly on your own plane on vacation to the Maldives.
          1. +1
            10 June 2025 15: 56
            And to what extent can this concept be stretched? General Vlasov also considered himself a patriot of Russia. For example, I don't consider people who fly on their own plane on vacation to the Maldives to be patriots, while we have money collected on TV for the treatment of children.
          2. +2
            10 June 2025 17: 52
            Quote: Glagol1
            If you pay your taxes honestly and live at home, you are already a patriot. Even if you are rich and fly to the Maldives on your own plane for vacation.

            It's great that you have labeled all those who "fit into the market" as patriots... good
          3. mz
            +2
            10 June 2025 18: 20
            Quote: Glagol1

            If you pay your taxes honestly and live at home, you are already a patriot.

            Only an oligarch honestly pays 15% of taxes, and the average citizen of the Russian Federation (excluding oligarchs) - about 50%. And their incomes are somewhat different... For some reason, it is much more profitable to be a patriot-oligarch.
      2. +5
        10 June 2025 12: 33
        All our big billionaires live here (Potanin, Alekperov, Mikhelson, etc.)...


        The only question is: how did these people become billionaires?

        "...Vagit Alekperov is Russia's top oil magnate and the main shareholder of Lukoil, Russia's largest private oil company. ..."

        "...Vladimir Potanin · Position: President of the Interros holding, President of the Norilsk Nickel mining and metallurgical company..."

        "...Leonid Mikhelson · Position: Chairman of the Management Board of PJSC Novatek ..."

        ...How brilliant our multi-oligarchs are! Western sanctions against Russia, sanctions against the Russian economy and business, and despite everything they continue to get rich. And at such a rate! And the fact that many large entrepreneurs are getting poorer indicates that their assets are being redistributed in favor of the aforementioned and similar "VIPs" from the oligarchy.

        The increase in the capital of the Alekperovs, Mikhelsons and Potanins for some reason has an inverse effect on the well-being of all citizens of the country. Apparently, the increase in their assets speaks to the degree of their integration into the single globalist Western system, which is now at war with Russia.

        More:
        https://ruskline.ru/news_rl/2023/02/02/alekperov_potanin_mihelson_i_abramovich_bogateyut


        PS
        Somehow it doesn't seem like "We are cut off from the global capital market." (c.)
        1. -3
          10 June 2025 15: 57
          There is no need to envy these people and even more so, there is no need to label them. Someone was lucky to be in the right place at the right time, someone foresaw something or guessed / but you can't build a big business on this alone/. Daily work, a willingness to take risks, sometimes you even have to fight, all these people are talented and smart in their own way.
      3. +2
        10 June 2025 12: 48
        Where there is a person making responsible decisions at the top and where the available means and influence of this person are limited by little, talking about whether this is “state control” or “state” is a kind of illusion.
        By analogy - Brezhnev was not a president but just some kind of "secretary", albeit a general one, but not even of the state but of the party (albeit the only one). However, he had power in his hands, very, very significant. Well, or Gorbachev - he was the president of the USSR, and so on?)
        We see how some Gref sits for decades and formally, of course, he is just some figure, like a “manager”, but in fact he has been sitting for a long time and this is his “fiefdom”, this is so FACTUALLY, although according to the rustling of papers he can be at least a “secretary” or a “security consultant”.
  3. 0
    10 June 2025 04: 59
    Good article, thanks to the author.
    But I would classify it more as an analysis than an "opinion"?
    1. +14
      10 June 2025 05: 45
      But I would classify it as analytics rather than "opinion"

      I disagree. The article presents only a few facts and about the same number of opinions, and even without assessing the latter. Students usually get a "satisfactory" grade for such work. And in general, the article is more in the realm of "aiming for a ruble, but hitting for a kopeck." The structure of the state debt is essentially not disclosed (except for the fact that the holders of securities are governments of a number of countries), as well as why the phrase "State debt" is essentially not such a problem (especially when it comes to the USA), although this is precisely the message that is clearly evident in the first three paragraphs.
    2. -7
      10 June 2025 10: 11
      A commissioned article, the meaning of which is partly that the dollar was, is and will be. And in general, there is no alternative to the dollar now. I want to ask: before the dollar became the world currency, people did not use money?
      Here it is necessary to understand that the de-dollarization proclaimed by the Russian authorities in recent years will not change the current state of affairs in any way, since it is aimed at abandoning the dollar in international settlements with other countries, and this, to put it bluntly, is a different function of money.

      If this is true, then why are the States drooling over the fact that some countries are stopping using greenbacks in mutual settlements?
      1. 0
        10 June 2025 12: 24
        Quote from solist2424
        I would like to ask: before the dollar became the world currency, people did not use money?

        In SMGS, settlements were conducted in Swiss francs for almost a century - and this is all the railways of the world.
      2. 0
        10 June 2025 13: 07
        A country that is a major producer of a wide range of goods, technologies, services and is constantly developing these areas, and is also stable (according to the totality of plans) - in general, it will be like a beacon attracting surrounding inferior states to its financial haven.
        The dollar earned its right to be a world currency not so much by some decisions, but by this simple formula. America did everything (then), sold it, it bought a lot, it needed a lot and it was stable.
        Now America has been adhering to a sanctions policy with an increasing number of countries for quite a long time (i.e. it ceases to exhibit many qualities that fall into the category of "stability", and purchases and sales from these countries to the US are losing their mutual benefit, and this, of course, takes them away from the dollar, which is logical). Also, after WW2, rather developed alternative scientific and technological clusters (in Asia, in Europe) have formed outside the US, demonstrating much greater greed and flexibility, and are not inferior to the US in stability.
        The advantage of the US as a buying market has decreased (due to the oversaturation that consumer society has reached), and as a selling market it has also decreased (due to the withdrawal of many industries from the US, the rise in labor costs, etc.).
        Thus, the scheme "we'll sell everything to the Americans, we'll buy what we need from them or from other countries, which will also sell everything to the Americans", in which, roughly speaking, the dollar was attractive because a lot was spinning around America, like gnats around a lamp - this scheme began to fail badly, about 15 years ago (and increasingly). Instead of the Americans realizing that things were going downhill, they went into principle, using the dollar as a weapon, instead of working more flexibly, combining the stick and the carrot. Recent political events show that the US has also begun to lose political stability.

        Thus, now the dollar is rather a passing tradition, due to the fact that established paths are energetically beneficial.
        Regarding what you wrote - people used to use money, of course. But the world of things around them was tied to a much greater extent to local production chains and to a much lesser extent to some transborder or global ones. Now, for example, we may need a lot of electronics, but some South Korea may not need anything from us at all. And without the mediation of a powerful economy with its currency, which needs both from us and from South Korea (and mutually), things will not work. In the future, this could be China or India for us, but for now we are immeasurably far from that...
      3. +2
        10 June 2025 13: 08
        I would like to ask: before the dollar became the world currency, people did not use money?

        I would like to answer...
        Throughout human history, at least in the regions where we live, there has always been a key "reserve currency": the bizant, the Byzantine gold for early medieval Europe, the gulden or thaler (hence the dollar), including for Russia/Russia in the 16th-17th centuries.
        Louis d'or, etc.
        There just wasn't that much globalization.
        Until 1991, the Soviet bloc was outside the dollar economy.
        But, with the fall of the Soviet bloc and the "attachment" of the PRC to Western countries as a "production workshop" since the 90s, the significance of the dollar both as a universal means of exchange and as the most important reserve currency has become all-encompassing.
        For several years, there has been an increase in the share of other reserve currencies: the euro, the yen, the pound and the Swiss franc, but this is a pittance. It is clear that no one is looking at either the yuan or the rupee, much less the ruble.
        The share of the dollar, as the world's reserve currency, is 59%, and the yuan is 2%, the same as the Australian dollar.
        1. 0
          10 June 2025 15: 06
          Throughout human history, at least in the regions where we live, there has always been a key "reserve currency"
          but it was always voluntary. The dollar became so almost forcibly request
        2. 0
          12 June 2025 17: 02
          If the dollar collapses, humanity will have no time for pretty, convenient schemes. We will have to return to natural exchange.
  4. +15
    10 June 2025 05: 08
    An unpleasant comparison slipped through the article:
    Thus, just recently Russian news outlets happily informed their readers that the national debt of our long-time antagonist had reached $36,6 trillion (123% of the US GDP), emphasizing that the national debt of the Russian Federation, for example, 115 times less.

    Everything seems to be fine, but:
    At the moment, the US government is forced to spend more than one trillion dollars a year on servicing the national debt (repaying the amount borrowed and paying interest on it) (about 4% of GDP) ...
    Thus, in 2024, the authorities of our country spent 2,3 trillion rubles for these purposes (about 1,1% of GDP).

    Roughly speaking, that's all 4 times smaller. Not eat gut recourse
    1. +1
      10 June 2025 06: 05
      Roughly, only 4 times less. Not to eat gut

      In our case, excluding the debt of state companies, whose indicators are taken out of the debt perimeter according to formal criteria. Russian Railways - turnover 2024 - 3,3 or 2,8 billion rubles (according to different sources), long-term debt burden at the beginning of 2025 - 2,1 trillion rubles, short-term - 2,7 trillion rubles.
      1. +1
        10 June 2025 12: 30
        Quote: Eduard Vaschenko
        In our case, excluding the debt of state companies, whose indicators are taken out of the debt perimeter according to formal criteria. Russian Railways - turnover 2024 - 3,3 or 2,8 billion rubles (according to different sources), long-term debt burden at the beginning of 2025 - 2,1 trillion rubles, short-term - 2,7 trillion rubles.

        It's like China. Formally, their public debt is tiny, but they've accumulated a ton of money. And if you add regional authorities and other zones for the withdrawal of public debt, then it's more than the US, both quantitatively and qualitatively.
        https://monocle.ru/monocle/2024/22/drakon-po-ushi-v-dolgakh/
  5. +16
    10 June 2025 06: 23
    Now, naturally, only the worst awaits the Russian economy. Enormous amounts of money have been squandered, the state "piggy banks" are practically empty, and the only way the government has found to "plug holes" in the budget is to take even more money from the people and businesses. The government is raising taxes on businesses, businesses are raising prices on everything, people are buying fewer goods, products, services, businesses are going bankrupt, making less profit, and paying less taxes to the budget, and the government is spending less and less money on the people and the maintenance of the country. BUT the government is not going to limit itself in anything, for example, more than 500 billion rubles are planned for the construction of a skyscraper in Grozny, and for a second high-speed road from Moscow to St. Petersburg.
    1. -2
      10 June 2025 07: 26
      Quote: tatra
      , here, more than 500 billion rubles are planned for the construction of a skyscraper in Grozny,

      Don't count this. This is reparations to the winner.
    2. +3
      10 June 2025 14: 43
      Irina, I will add to yours. In Russia, sugar production has decreased by 36%, butter by 15%, flour by 9%.
  6. +9
    10 June 2025 06: 31
    The high level of the key rate set by the Central Bank leads to the fact that servicing the government debt is becoming increasingly expensive.

    Well, everything is getting more and more expensive... Absolutely everything... And we are still waiting for the default of construction companies because mortgages are no longer affordable for the majority. Housing prices are sky-high, as are mortgage interest rates. Banks will start crying about falling profits and begging the state for money (and how can they not help, they don't abandon their own), and the state will continue to raise duties and fines, not to mention housing and communal services.
    1. -5
      10 June 2025 12: 19
      maybe apartment prices will fall))))))
  7. +9
    10 June 2025 06: 47
    Russian inflation has specific names, no one thinks that the price tags in Pyaterochka or at gas stations change automatically by themselves. It's just that comrades like Alikperov or Kurbatov want to eat more, with their greed launching inflation, for which there are no economic reasons...
    1. +6
      10 June 2025 08: 27
      Well, I think the SVO is the main economic reason.
      But as was rightly noted, no one from the elite wants to cut corners, which means they need to get money from the country’s “second oil”
  8. +11
    10 June 2025 06: 53
    And it is very significant that the paid bots have almost completely lost their main method, “remember what happened in the 90s,” because everyone, except for the zombie propaganda, has already understood that things will be even worse than in the 90s, and much is already returning from that period.
    1. +1
      10 June 2025 07: 56
      Quote: tatra
      and do you remember what happened in the 90s?

      Well, if we are advised to reminisce, then wouldn't it be better to remember the Stalinist period after the Great Patriotic War? The most developed part of the country before the war is in ruins, the former "allies" in the anti-Hitler coalition are starting to "raise their feathers". Therefore, we must take care of our defense capability. And, despite this, there is deflation in the country! In simple terms - a decrease in prices for food (!) and essential goods. How so! So maybe the issue is not in the most complex, as the author assures, laws of economics, but in the economic system? Why did the purchasing power of the ruble constantly grow under Stalin, but constantly decrease under Putin? Simply because the state economy is run not by Putin and Mishustin, but by the Alikperovs and Kurbatovs and their comrades.
      1. +5
        10 June 2025 08: 16
        Just don't go on about "bad boyars" again. He recently had a meeting with his rich people - they told him - give him money, reduce taxes and lending rates, because it's impossible to work in such conditions, and he told them - we need to "strangle" foreign business.
        This is his understanding of economics.
        1. -2
          10 June 2025 12: 12
          It’s not his fault, he didn’t graduate from a financial or economic academy.
          1. +2
            10 June 2025 14: 22
            In 1997, Putin defended his dissertation for the degree of candidate of economic sciences on the topic of "Strategic planning for the reproduction of the mineral resource base of the region in the context of the formation of market relations (St. Petersburg and the Leningrad Region)" at the St. Petersburg State Mining Institute. The scientific supervisor of the work was Doctor of Economics, Professor Vladimir Fedoseyev - a well-known specialist in the field of mineral resource economics.
            1. +2
              10 June 2025 15: 29
              They should have tried not to give him a "candidate of economic sciences"
    2. +2
      10 June 2025 14: 44
      They say the tradition of the 90s has returned: delaying salaries.
  9. +4
    10 June 2025 07: 07
    I especially liked the thesis that if the Central Bank lowers the rate, inflation will increase! The author is apparently a contender for the Nobel Prize! laughing
    1. +2
      10 June 2025 08: 04
      If the Central Bank lowers the rate, inflation will increase! The author is apparently a contender for the Nobel Prize!

      It is obvious.
      If the rate remained at the level of the beginning of 2022, the dollar would be at 200 rubles, if not higher, and products and services would grow by the same 100-150%. Since the Central Bank rate primarily affects the acquisition of currency necessary to provide for the entire consumer market of Russia, and secondly, for the development of industry, which has an indirect relationship to the consumer market.
      As is the construction industry in its current state for economic development, it is more likely a "pyramid" or a "financial bubble".
      So, no Nobel Prize.
      The situation with the market economy of the Russian Federation is exactly like this.
      1. +5
        10 June 2025 08: 21
        Increasing the interest rate on business lending is an automatic increase in prices for what the business produces or sells.
        Yes, and now there is a complete “zugzwang” - either completely ruin the civilian economy, or launch hyperinflation for the people.
      2. +1
        10 June 2025 18: 45
        Personally, I look at this so-called inflation from a different perspective. How much the currency costs is of secondary importance. For example, this or that ammunition cost 22 rubles in 1. As you know, there were no active military actions then. We don’t count Syria. Three years have passed. The need for it has grown. Accordingly, mass production of this ammunition has begun. This means that the purchase price should decrease. Considering the volumes bought out by the state. And now it costs 1,5. Not less, but even more! And the state is forced to pay more. These are the very percentages that it itself has inflated!
        This is how I see this mess, not the economy.
        1. 0
          10 June 2025 18: 46
          This is how I see this mess, not the economy.

          it's economics...but different
          hi
    2. 0
      10 June 2025 10: 35
      Quote: Panadol
      I especially liked the thesis that when the Central Bank lowers the rate, inflation will increase!

      Who (or what) will inflation raise there? Inflation can raise the decrease in the purchasing power of the ruble...
      Maybe it would be right - "inflation will rise"?
  10. +11
    10 June 2025 07: 30
    The main pitfall has not been voiced. Namely, who is the state's main creditor.
    Who lent to the state without becoming poor at all. Who must repay debts with unimaginable interest, further enriching these anonymous creditors.
    At the same time, there is an unconscionable amount of money in the country, but the people have less and less of it in their hands.
    This is anything but national prosperity.
    1. +1
      10 June 2025 08: 18
      Quote: U-58
      Who needs to repay debts with unimaginable interest rates

      Central Bank headed by Elvira.
      Where does she get the money for the loan? That's how she prints.
    2. +1
      10 June 2025 10: 39
      Quote: U-58
      This is anything but national prosperity.

      Moreover, no one cares about the 100% (for example) sale of the proceeds from the currency by various enterprises...
  11. +4
    10 June 2025 08: 02
    - Do you have any complaints about buttons?
    - No, the buttons are sewn on tightly!

    My knowledge of monetary and financial economics is limited to the limits of household budget distribution. But even I, with my meager knowledge, understand that if I take a loan from a bank, I must pay back not only the loan amount, but also the interest on it.

    In other words, if I took a loan for 100 rubles at 10%, I have to pay back 110 rubles. But I don’t just have to pay off the bank, I also have to earn money. Therefore, the cost of my product will be 110 rubles +, say, 20 rubles. The cost of the final product will be 130 rubles.

    If the bank issues a loan at 15%, then the price of the final product will also increase and will be 100+15+5=120 rubles. Why +15 rubles of income and not 20 rubles as it was at the rate of 10%? Because no one will buy the product at a price of 100+15+15=150 rubles - the people have no money. What to do? We will have to raise salaries, print money, and this is already inflation ...

    And if the Central Bank rate is 20%, then we will have to close production. With such a rate, we won't even break even...

    In other words the higher the Central Bank rate, the higher the inflation, the higher the unemployment, the closer the hunger riots... - this is the main goal of the Central Bank's activities...

    Nabiullina once said that: ~ "The Central Bank is responsible for the money supply corresponding to the output, but the government is responsible for the output." But how, under such interest rates, not only can new production be launched, but also the existing one can be maintained - she does not explain...
    1. +4
      10 June 2025 08: 23
      The only time I gave you a plus.
      1. -1
        10 June 2025 09: 49
        The essence of Russian civilization is Bolshevism.

        Quote: tatra
        The only time I gave you a plus.

        Thank you. "A kind word pleases even cattle." feel

        I'll add some quotes from the Bible, just on topic:

        Deuteronomy:
        23.20 You shall lend to a foreigner at interest, but you shall not lend to your brother at interest, so that the LORD your God may bless you in everything. what is done by your hands on the land where you are going, to master it;
        28.12 And you shall lend (at interest) to many nations, but you yourself shall not borrow (at interest); and you shall rule over many nations, but they shall not rule over you.

        Book of the Prophet Isaiah:
        60.10:XNUMX Then the sons of strangers will build your walls, and their kings will serve you;
        60.11 And ​​your gates will be opened, they will not be closed day or night, so that the wealth of the nations may be brought to you, and their kings will be brought.
    2. +2
      10 June 2025 11: 09
      But how, with such interest rates, it is possible to not only launch new production, but also maintain the existing one - this does not explain...

      What you described is opening a business on credit. You don't open a large and necessary production like that. Only a small business, but this is both a risk and complete crap. The investment amount for a small production is about 2 million. Even at a rate of 21%, the payments can be handled, the business will survive, it's just that your profit will be 0,5 - 0,7%, which is not encouraging. This is provided that you find a place in the market and are competitive.
      Large-scale production is not done on the fly, but immediately based on needs. Basically, there are already contracts for the supply of products, although the foundation of the plant has not been poured. The amounts from the launch are from 15 million, BUT! The state initially issues patents, subsidies and grants. As with the farming.
      But let the existing production facilities be optimized and become profitable, so that they can develop on earned money, and not on state money. Russian Railways and Gazprom, for example. Zenit and Lokomotiv will stop buying expensive players.
      So the opinion that high rates kill business is not entirely correct.
      1. -4
        10 June 2025 11: 26
        The essence of Russian civilization is Bolshevism.

        Quote: a.shlidt
        So the opinion that high rates kill business is not entirely correct.

        The high Central Bank rate is the original cause of inflation.

        If you took a loan at 20%, then you will never sell your goods for less than the amount you have to pay back. Higher price for goods, higher salaries of buyers = inflation. Inflation during perestroika at 300% killed the USSR.

        ps
        There is no production that does not take loans.
        1. +2
          10 June 2025 11: 44
          The high Central Bank rate is the original cause of inflation.

          The causes of inflation in the Russian Federation are mainly due to external influences. The ruble was dropped, imports were partially closed. A race for equipment on credit began in stores and prices began to creep up. Of course, I expressed myself too narrowly, this can be projected onto many things, but the scheme is clear. The Central Bank, having raised the price of credit, only cooled hot heads and inflation did not jump over the "no return" line. Like in the 90s. After all, the main race was for imported goods, the import of which was just closed.
          Inflation during perestroika at 300% killed the USSR.

          Inflation broke through the ceiling because the state let go of pricing, telling all enterprises that you set the prices now. In the USSR in the late 80s, no one gave loans at all and at any interest rate. We can discuss for a long time what killed the USSR, but it was not only about the economy.
          ps
          There is no production that does not take loans.

          I say again, small is nothing. The amount is not big, and who needs bakeries on every corner? And everything that concerns "buy-sell" or providing services is done at your own expense.
          Large productions are created immediately for the project and with a grant/patent/subsidy. Most often, with already concluded contracts for the sale of their products and the first tranches.
        2. -2
          10 June 2025 12: 23
          small business should be opened without any loans, credit is evil
    3. 0
      10 June 2025 14: 26
      It’s strange that you didn’t write anything about how the tsar is good and the boyars are bad.
    4. 0
      10 June 2025 18: 00
      It is strange that you call Nabiullina evil and lost. She is a saint and a role model in Iran.
  12. Owl
    +4
    10 June 2025 08: 30
    "Friends-oligarchs" do not want to make "long-term investments", for something that will pay off and bring profit in 25-30 years (construction of new automobile factories, aircraft factories, factories for the production of machine tools or ball bearings), it is more profitable for them to destroy production, to build elite housing or a hypermarket "Globus" on the territory. Any purchases from abroad - an increase in the price of goods and the deprivation of citizens of jobs (the only winners are scooter couriers). Only the State is capable of long-term investments (the experience of industrialization, the restoration of industry after the Great Patriotic War and the growth of industry in the 70-80s) and until this begins - there will be a rise in prices, inflation, growth of the state debt and the import of incompetent and uneducated cheap labor to work as janitors and the annual laying of new curbs.
    1. +2
      10 June 2025 09: 22
      Quote: Eagle Owl
      importation of incompetent and uneducated cheap labor to work as street cleaners and to lay new curbs every year.

      Nope, they don't become janitors - the pay is low. Our pensioners work as janitors to somehow improve their meager budget.
    2. +4
      10 June 2025 12: 34
      Quote: Eagle Owl
      The "oligarch friends" do not want to make "long-term investments", something that will pay off and bring profit in 25-30 years (construction of new automobile factories, aircraft factories, factories for the production of machine tools or for the production of ball bearings), it is more profitable for them to destroy production, to build elite housing or a "Globus" hypermarket on the territory.

      Because, unlike capitalist countries or even the Russian Empire, today's capitalists clearly see the population's mood to "Take everything!!"
      If someone invests money, where might they come with a verdict tomorrow?
      Nonsense, everyone will try to grab and run away, no one will "build a factory for grandchildren" (like Demidov once did)
      1. +1
        10 June 2025 14: 30
        Because, unlike capitalist countries or even the Russian Empire, today's capitalists clearly see the population's mood to "Take everything!!"

        So they will ask Putin to explain to the stupid people how good it is to live when everything is in private hands.
        1. -1
          10 June 2025 14: 39
          Quote: Ermak_415
          Because, unlike capitalist countries or even the Russian Empire, today's capitalists clearly see the population's mood to "Take everything!!"

          So they will ask Putin to explain to the stupid people how good it is to live when everything is in private hands.

          Hmm, the great socialist experiment was easily and casually betrayed and sold cheaply by the authorities, the party, the army, the Ministry of Internal Affairs and the KGB.
          And the supposedly smart people still blink their eyes and say, "There was no order..."
          1. +1
            10 June 2025 15: 06
            Hmm, the great socialist experiment was easily and casually betrayed and sold cheaply by the authorities, the party, the army, the Ministry of Internal Affairs and the KGB.

            No, the USSR was ruined by the government that ignored the civilian sector.
            1. +1
              10 June 2025 15: 07
              Quote: Ermak_415
              Hmm, the great socialist experiment was easily and casually betrayed and sold cheaply power, party, army, Ministry of Internal Affairs and KGB.

              No, the USSR was ruined by the government that ignored the civilian sector.

              I didn't mention power, did I? feel ?
          2. 0
            10 June 2025 16: 19
            The same events are happening now. Maybe someone in thirty years will ask why they didn't come out and defend.
            1. +1
              11 June 2025 07: 54
              Quote: Gardamir
              The same events are happening now. Maybe someone in thirty years will ask why they didn't come out and defend.

              Nooooo, now the situation is completely different - you yourself beat your chest "Defend the oligarchy?!! The corrupt government??!!! No way!!!" (c)
              At the same time, you talk about linden polls, approval ratings, rigged elections.
              therefore
              - or there will be no one to ask( all NOT protected)
              - either you (and the other marshals and generals of the VO who adhere to your position) are wrong
  13. +4
    10 June 2025 08: 52
    It's funny; ,,,,,government debt,,,,,, who you owe, what you owe for, why you owe, etc. Being born in any country, you are already burdened with a debt - a debt to your homeland, a debt to everyone. And who are those who make these debts? If I go to the bank to borrow money to buy an apartment, I know the reasons for the debt, its amount, and the method of repayment. And what about the state? Borrows money (where, from whom, at what interest, etc.) takes it, and borrows without knowing how it will return the money, and even with interest?
    Russia has just recently paid off its creditors, cleared its debts, and now what, again? Up to its neck in debt?
    Having such natural resources, it is somehow strange to have debts. I understand the sanctions and so on, but the US lives with a huge debt (state), nothing, and I think they will live with it for so long, until someone comes up with some idea to change the state system. And the rest is in the ears of the people, so that they are obedient, and take at their word, all the nonsense they will carry, about cutting social services, pensions, increasing the retirement age, etc.
    In the US there is a federal reserve system, it is bottomless, from there they draw debts for the people, and Russia has, say, Lake Baikal, declare that it does not contain water but the Russian reserve system, and draw everything, it is inexhaustible.
    The US makes up laws for everything else, and Russia follows them.
  14. -1
    10 June 2025 10: 29
    The development of science and technology has made it possible to significantly reduce the cost of production and money circulation, and private “coins” have appeared, digital banknotes issued by the main banks of state entities, which are backed by all the wealth of state entities.
    Today, there is one real alternative to the dollar – the euro, and several theoretical ones – the renminbi, the IMF’s special drawing rights, various coins – bitcoins, stablecoins, etc.
    Special drawing rights are the prototype of world money, one of the conditions for the emergence of which is worldwide globalization with the abolition of state borders, free movement of goods and capital, much as is the case in the EU.
    The process of globalization today is at an intermediate stage of the so-called “multipolar” or world divided into closed unions and blocs, such as the Eurasian Economic Union, BRICS, etc., in which, due to their isolation, there is a need for a system of internal interbank settlements and a single currency.
    Many expected the 16th summit in Kazan to agree on the Brics Bridge system, which would allow Brics to branch off and gain independence from Swift and Western sanctions, but this did not happen.
    The main obstacle to the Renminbi becoming a world currency is the subordination of the People's Bank of China to the government, and therefore to the CPC, as was the case in the USSR.
    This situation does not correspond to the so-called “market” economy, makes stock exchange speculations on currency markets impossible, and the US never tires of accusing China of currency manipulation. For this reason, the share of the Renminbi in international settlements is about 3%, given that China’s economy is the largest in the world – a clear discrepancy.
    Gold, due to its limited quantity and growing production demand, has no prospects of becoming an alternative to virtual banknotes, but can serve as insurance and possibly some transnational transactions. There will never be gold coins in circulation among the population, for sure!
    Trump is trying to reduce the national debt through tax breaks, lowering the key rate, weakening the dollar and increasing competitiveness, leveling the foreign trade imbalance (the loss of which in 24 alone amounted to $1293 billion), budget optimization, and digitalization of the dollar.
    To solve the problem, it would be necessary to deprive the Federal Reserve of its independence and subordinate it to the government, which is impossible in the so-called market economy.
    Budget optimization also didn’t work out, and Musk was simply kicked out.
    What remains is digitalization and the exchange rate for virtual banknotes.
    In reserve, there is an option of accumulating various coins, of which the US has the most in the world. The essence comes down to increasing the money supply at their expense and paying off creditors with these coins - a pure scam.
    1. 0
      10 June 2025 13: 32
      Prospects for the Russian economy

      As for the Russian economy, the prospects are unclear.
      The foreign trade surplus in 24 was $151 billion. This allows the government to offset the high rate, pay for national projects and social benefits, introduce tax breaks and preferences, and subsidize subsidized regions. Protectionism in foreign trade allows natural monopolies and systemically important enterprises to operate with a profit, which was 4,1% for the year.
      In the prospect of the end of the war and the lifting of some sanctions, the head of the main bank predicts a cooling of the economy, and possibly a reduction in the rate and relative stability of the wooden one.
      The problem with labor resources, which existed before the war, became critically acute during the war due to the withdrawal of 300 thousand from the economy due to mobilization, the increase in the size of the army in response to the expansion of NATO. These 600 thousand of working age have already been transferred from the category of creating material values ​​to the category of consumers of material values ​​that are created by a smaller number of workers. The program to increase the birth rate turned into a decrease, plus irreparable losses at the front and loss of ability to work due to injuries, and the Duma members limited the purchase of labor on the external market due to the threat to the dominance of the Russian population and the Orthodox faith that cement the multinational Russian Federation. This situation creates limits to economic development for decades to come.
  15. 0
    10 June 2025 10: 46
    At the beginning of the article I was happy - finally they would explain to me on my fingers what is what, using a simple analogy. But it didn't work out (. A number of questions torment me what
    If a person borrows money but cannot repay it, then his property is confiscated and taken to pay off the debt, right?
    Who will take something from a state if on its territory there are not only its assets, but also the assets of many other states? Hmm?
    Debt servicing is paying interest on a loan?
    If so, and the state spends money year after year only to pay back interest on the money it borrowed, and that is the maximum it can do, then who in their right mind would hope to get the entire amount back? We can only talk about observing the interests of those usurers who invested this money and are cutting interest. While this interest is dripping, there are no claims against the borrower. And he takes advantage of this. Claims may arise for other reasons, when creditors will simply need to remove the borrower from the scene, or stuff his property into their pockets, but this works with someone who does not have military force, or whose property is not on his territory. In the case of a country on whose territory the gold reserves of many countries are located, and which has nuclear weapons, the only option left is to cut interest on the invested money and carefully protect the "dear debtor" from bankruptcy - isn't that right?
    1. +1
      10 June 2025 13: 28
      [quote]Who will take something from a state if on its territory there are not only its assets, but also the assets of many other states?
      [/ Quote]
      The state also has assets in other countries, these are movable and immovable property, shares in enterprises, exclusive rights, patent rights, trademarks, etc.
      If anything happens, there will simply be courts in local jurisdictions and foreign hairy paws will rake in our foreign property or impose some fines on us through international arbitration, which will be collected (or not collected) one way or another through the seizure of accounts, a system of penalties, and so on. Yes, it's all arranged in a funny way, hehe.
      [quote]Debt servicing is paying interest on a loan?
      [/ Quote]
      For the most part, yes, to a lesser extent, these are expenses on bureaucratic fuss, assessments, examinations and other rolling around of stinking bourgeois papers.
      [quote]If this is so, and the state spends year after year only to pay back interest on the money it borrowed, and this is the most it can do, then who in their right mind would have any hope of getting the entire amount back?
      As I understand it, many (investments) happen for the sake of access in principle (to something), to resources, to technologies, to infrastructure and in such a mundane sense as "I invested money in you and once a year I go for %", as it works with an individual in banks - it does not work. Through this instrument, in case of its successful functioning, you can get some stable goodies (and the profit will not be so much from it, but from the chain in which it will be something key), and if everything is not very successful, then some partially ready-made solutions and technologies may fall (if I'm not mistaken, we had a similar story with the acquisition of a share in the Dutch company Mapper), with a patent base and some rights.
      Also, here you need to understand that money is subject to inflation - but you invested, for example, in a port, and it brings you profit in a compensatory dependence on real inflation, and if you have money lying around somewhere, then it gets cheaper and your income from it too. Investments are rather an attempt to find some stable source of income with compensation for erosion. You can invest in something, the product of which will become more expensive (while money will become cheaper, for example). Although, of course, there are bad investments am
      [quote]In the case of a country on whose territory the gold reserves of many countries are located, and which possesses nuclear weapons, the only option left is to cut interest on the invested money and carefully protect the “dear debtor” from bankruptcy - isn’t that right?
      [/ Quote]
      In our backwater there are still rather poorly developed niches (unlike abroad), and foreign capital can theoretically have super profits due to a successful investment project. This kind of approach implies high risk but also gives high profits, "if it works out". At the same time, the investor will not personally invest a lot (for example, he will do it through an investment company) and, accordingly, in case of anything, he will not lose much. These are not some large "monolithic" investors who can really be interested in "protecting" someone, they are rather organized small fry, incapable of some strong protective decisions.

      May economists forgive me for a bunch of heresy hi
      1. +1
        10 June 2025 15: 18
        Quote: Knell Wardenheart

        As I understand it, many (investments) happen for the sake of access in principle (to something), to resources, to technologies, to infrastructure, and in such a mundane sense as “I invested money in you and once a year I go for %”, as it works with an individual in banks - it does not work.

        Investments in specific economic activity, with the expectation of income from it, and the purchase of impersonal "treasuries" seem to me to be different things. The latter is "once a year I go for %", given that the invested money works for a foreign state, and the levers of influence on its economy and a share of its development are not provided in principle.
  16. +6
    10 June 2025 10: 50
    To talk about the US national debt, we should first consider how it arose and why it is growing. It is quite a cycle. It is worth understanding once and for all that there will never be a default in the US. They have the right to issue currency, their Federal Reserve holds a lot of promissory notes, the whole world invests in their bonds. This collapse is not beneficial to anyone, no one will go bankrupt, all the rest is nonsense only for the electorate.
    And therefore, comparing the US national debt with the debts of other countries is not correct at all. It's like comparing a Tesla with a Niva. Both cars seem to be vehicles, but somehow they are sickly different.
    1. -1
      10 June 2025 12: 34
      Quote: a.shlidt
      It is worth understanding once and for all that there will never be a default in the USA. They have the right to issue currency, their Federal Reserve System holds a lot of promissory notes, the whole world invests in their bonds. This collapse is not beneficial to anyone, no one will go bankrupt, all the rest is nonsense only for the electorate.

      Unfortunately, many do not understand this, as well as the fact that the USSR would have survived the collapse of the USA with great difficulty, due to its great autonomy, but as for the Russian Federation, I am not sure that the country will be much better off than the USA if they go bankrupt... The 90s will seem like good times... simply because the whole world will be covered by such a severe crisis for 10 years, that oh... there will definitely be a bunch of wars and other anarchy... and precisely for this reason, the collapse of the USA is simply unprofitable for any country in the world today... a primitive explanation. You are the President of "Laos", you have 30% inflation... you receive income, where to keep your money? in their Laotian with 30% inflation or in dollars with 2,5% inflation, and also with the yield - if in bonds... any adequate person understands that it is tens of times more profitable to keep money in the USA... and the overwhelming majority of countries in the world are such "Laotians".. not to mention the other features of the dollar - settlements, etc., etc.
      1. 0
        10 June 2025 13: 19
        Well, you can store it in gold. Its inflation is much lower than that of the dollar.
        1. 0
          10 June 2025 13: 24
          Quote: Leontrotsky
          Well, you can store it in gold. Its inflation is much lower than that of the dollar.

          it is possible, but 1. there is no gold in the whole world 2. you can also make money in US bonds
          1. -1
            10 June 2025 13: 27
            Well, Laos doesn't need that much of it. And you can earn the same on gold, due to inflation. It's enough to look at how much dollars they gave for a troy ounce in 46 and how much they give now.
        2. +2
          10 June 2025 13: 42
          Keeping money is a bad idea in general. In anything. It needs to be spent, but wisely.
          1. +1
            10 June 2025 13: 44
            I completely agree with this.
    2. +2
      10 June 2025 13: 24
      Regarding the Niva, be careful on turns. I think it's one of the best crossovers in terms of price and quality. Firstly, it will go where your Tesla will blow bubbles in the first puddle. And for me, this is important, because I'm a hunter, fisherman and summer resident. And secondly, if the Niva suddenly breaks down in the wilderness, I can almost always revive it, because I carry a coil, commutator, distributor, spark plugs, carburetor, etc. with me. But what will you do when your Tesla stalls 10 kilometers from the nearest house... I really don't know))
      1. +1
        10 June 2025 13: 46
        So then, in my comparison, Niva is the US government debt. wink Indestructible and unsinkable.
  17. +2
    10 June 2025 13: 15
    In general, I agree with what has been written, except for one aspect - where it is said that the process of de-dollarization of the Russian economy does not affect the US national debt. Since the dollar is the world's reserve currency, the GDP of those countries where it is in circulation ensures its stability. De-dollarization, including that of the Russian Federation, "shrinks" its sphere of circulation, and therefore generates negative processes for the dollar itself. Demand for it falls, which means inflationary processes for the dollar accelerate. Do not forget that the Russian Federation is one of the world's main oil exporters, and petrodollars have always been in the sphere of the US's primary interests, and the transition to national currencies in oil settlements is a sensitive prick for the States. Especially if the trend expands (as is happening in the BRICS countries in various areas of mutual trade). And the growth of inflation, the fall in demand for the dollar, devalues ​​the debt obligations on it, which, ultimately, can lead to their dumping by the countries-holders. And this will already be the beginning of the collapse of the dollar. In the end, no world currency is eternal - there was the guilder, there was the franc, there was the pound ... and what is their role now?
    1. +1
      10 June 2025 13: 38
      how it happens in BRICS countries

      As one of the economists on Rutube said (I don't remember his name or what program it was), it was precisely this tendency that gave rise to secondary, tough sanctions on the shadow fleet and on countries that buy our oil. It is the undermining of the petrodollar that poses a greater threat to the US than the imaginary default.
      After all, the petrodollar is precisely an instrument of influence, a link to the system. The Saudis were specifically tied, given security guarantees and the opportunity to buy anything. Then everyone, including us, joined this system.
  18. -2
    10 June 2025 16: 18
    The article shows that the Central Bank is making money not only on large, medium, small businesses and ordinary people, but also on the State. Not bad! The power of the finally victorious liberals and world-scale swindlers in all its glory! Smart people sit in the Federal Reserve System and the City of London. I wonder if they will eventually thank the Great One? Or is the best reward for him the regular recognition of Zadovna as a great banker?
    And the fables about our Central Bank fighting inflation growth by raising the rate are for the average person. It is the one who is driving it up.
    1. +2
      12 June 2025 12: 42
      It follows from the article that the Central Bank profits not only from large, medium, small businesses and ordinary people, but also from the State.

      Apparently, you have no idea about the relationship between the state and the Central Bank, and you write all sorts of nonsense for others. Let it be known to you that the Central Bank pays taxes from its profits, just like any other taxpayer. Moreover, it transfers the free remainder of its profits to the state budget.
  19. -2
    11 June 2025 12: 22
    It was possible to give loans to producers and the real sector of the economy at 3-5%, and to speculators at 21%, as it is now. But the management of the Central Bank and the Ministry of Finance really only have one brain, or is this deliberate sabotage, working according to Western and American manuals.
  20. 0
    12 June 2025 22: 23
    A strange economist, debt in the US is not debt, as long as they can offer both their citizens and the world a wide range of goods and components, they will stay afloat until then. On the other hand, the phrase about internal debt is confusing, what's wrong with a state being indebted to its citizens, paying an ever-increasing percentage to its citizens, you stimulate your market, but only again, if you have something to offer in return in the form of goods and services. If there is nothing, then the import of goods will increase, which is also good for taxes, but it will be necessary to increase raw material exports by the same indicator.