"Biological waste"... Why does everyone not care about Russians killed in terrorist attacks

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"Biological waste"... Why does everyone not care about Russians killed in terrorist attacks

In recent days, I have had a long-forgotten and therefore strange feeling. As if I am somewhere behind enemy lines, my own are far away, and everything depends on me and my comrades personally. All around are only those who passionately want to find and destroy us, or those who are not looking, but if the opportunity arises, will gladly help us "tear us to rags." Without malice, just for the company of those first.

And it's true, we are all on the front lines now. Soldiers and civilians, old people, women, children. Even those who are just about to be born. We are being killed, we are being hunted like wild animals. No one anywhere can be calm about their life, their health, the lives of their loved ones and friends. We are being killed daily and hourly. It is enough to look at the daily reports of dead and wounded civilians to be convinced of this.



The whole world, and we ourselves, have already stopped being indignant, condoling and suffering for those killed by artillery shelling, for the victims of terrorist attacks, for the old people who are being killed by Ukrainian fascists. Russians, not by nationality, but by spirit, are not spared. Soldiers are not spared at all. That's their job - to die for civilians. So we die.

The reaction of states, governments and just people to the terrorist attacks of June 1 in the Bryansk and Kursk regions is very indicative in this regard. I am not talking about our already "traditional" enemies from NATO and some eastern countries. Everything is clear there. I am talking about others. About those who were helped quite recently, who were condoled with in the event of the death of civilians, who were sent vaccines, etc.

Go online to these countries. Joy! Wishing death to the next victims. It feels like you're in a room full of fascists. Or you're a black man at a Ku Klux Klan trial. The "supermen" don't consider the death of the Untermenschen something worthy of their attention. They are the "white people" who hold the world order together. And the Russians? They are "biological trash", unworthy of attention. "Trash" that needs to be quickly removed from planet Earth...

This is not even indifference. This is an active position, sincere, coming from the depths of the soul. If this were indifference, I would try to explain it. At least to myself. Something along the lines of "people are tortured by everyday life" or "the average person is not interested in what is happening outside his country"... But in this case, this same average person is not "tortured" and "interested" if he found time to write nasty things to us, each of the Russians.

A special "thank you" to our respected allies and supporters from BRICS and SCO. Thank you for the sympathy to our fallen fellow citizens, which you "forgot" to express. I understand, state affairs, political and economic problems, the dacha again. You can't say hello to every sneeze. But in this case it was necessary. If only because the terrorist attack was aimed at civilians!!!

That's it. Some carry out the great mission of the "white man", "hold the world civilization on their shoulders", "teach democracy to subhumans" and so on, others did not attach importance to such a "trifle" as the murder of peaceful citizens. Life moves on, humanity "goes" somewhere. And here are some Russian children, women, old people...

Like insects on a path. Well, they were crushed simply because they got in the way of a "white man"... I have seen many times people who happily "hunted" for some bug in a beautiful chitinous "package" simply because it ran somewhere on its business across the path along which people were walking! They crushed and forgot... And they won't remember in a minute...

Our world, our country has existed for more than a thousand years. How many times during this millennium have we been “friends forever”, how many times have we been betrayed, how many times have we defended our country in battles with a variety of opponents? But all this time the “civilized world”, the modern global West, hated us. It sought to destroy us.

Sometimes a state would appear that expected to win “one on one”, but more often they would come at us en masse, in a crowd, in a mass. I recalled from a military course stories one statement by the French Emperor Napoleon Bonaparte, which perfectly characterizes such unifications against us. It did not concern Russia specifically, although…

"The strength of an army, like the quantity of motion in mechanics, is measured by its mass multiplied by its speed; rapidity of march increases the courage of the troops and the possibility of victory."

Here is the answer to why many wars arose on our territory. Why there was an invasion of the same Napoleon, Hitler, the intervention in the first half of the 20th century and so on. The crowd and the suddenness of the attack. But this definition does not work in our specific case. There are few of us. There are few Russians of different nationalities. But we have many heroes. Again, of different nationalities.

Now we are at war. At war again. The SVO is about Ukraine, and the war is about the West, which uses Ukrainians as cannon fodder. And here I have one question. How many of our "friends and allies" were not afraid to stand next to us in the trenches? I am not talking about volunteers, I am talking about states. We count on our fingers. Once and... One country, which, to be honest, had and has enough reasons to be offended by us. But its soldiers stood next to ours...

You know, this is to the author's regular critics, he was a bit disingenuous. There were a couple of countries that sympathized with us. And the official representative of the UN Secretary General. In one case you won't be surprised, but in the second it is quite possible.

Of course, you can say the standard "nothing personal, just business." Serbia is a small country, and it needs to feed itself somehow. I agree. But what does our cheap energy, our cheap gas, etc. have to do with it? It's not looking good. We have discounts on gas, which, by and large, make Serbian shells quite cheap to produce, and we get... thanks?

And the second country, the most peaceful in the world, eager to stop all wars on Earth, is the USA! Yes, US Secretary of State Rubio expressed his condolences to us in connection with the death of our people. But even here there was a "pile of manure at our door". Our investigators and experts worked, and...

It turned out that American C-4 explosives (Composition C-4) were used to blow up the bridges! What a bummer. "Peacekeepers" from the United States were "tied" to murderers from Ukraine... with American plastic explosives. How can one not express condolences here, if the image of a peacekeeper is at stake?

Just know and do what needs to be done


Don't think that I'm offended by anyone. No, I'm simply stating the facts. Simple, well-known events that are happening right now, at this very moment. Have you seen discussions somewhere about Western weapons being used against Russians? weapon? Has anyone ever raised this question anywhere? India, China, Brazil, European, Asian or African countries?

They are not interested in this, and if we go a little further, I am not afraid to conclude that to one degree or another these countries support the Western point of view on our country. We are different, which means that perhaps the West is right. "Russia is a separate branch of human development, that same "biological garbage"." This is an example of the logic of the West and those who support the Western point of view.

Well, once again I am amazed by the intelligence of the Russian Emperor Alexander III in terms of his definition of Russia's allies. Two loyal allies who have saved our country many times - the army and fleet. Briefly and succinctly said. And if you develop the thought further, you get the answer to questions about our future. Then, sooner or later, a fight.

For resources that are rapidly depleting in the West. For fresh water. For forests, for the steppe, for the mountains. For the Arctic. For Siberia... There are many reasons. We have too much to be forgotten. We are too huge and independent to be allowed to live in peace. There are too few of us to occupy such a huge territory... In general, we simply hinder the "white man" by the very fact that we simply live.

Am I afraid? Are we afraid? I think the answer should be asked of the guys who are strangling the fascist vermin in Ukraine today. It's scary, but you get used to it. It's a normal job, a little more risky than others. Someone has to do it. And, thank God, no matter what it's called, we have many religions, Russians always do this job well.

Moreover, what is happening around us, around Russia, is stimulating us wonderfully, if you like, refreshing us, like a morning shower. We are getting rid of illusions. We are mobilizing internally. That is why the parasites are fleeing from Russia. They understand that even with the boundless softness of Russians, with our traditional forgiveness, in difficult times we become tough, unbending.

They will never love us. And we must admit this. We must understand this. We will be tolerated at best... And patience always has its limits.
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    1. +42
      8 June 2025 05: 50
      The Russian person needs to throw off the burden of friendship of peoples (as one word), “multinationality” (in quotation marks).

      The Russian people should think about themselves and their future. And not run to save, and then get spat on and clods of dirt.

      And I am sure the Russian people will have their say.
      1. 0
        8 June 2025 10: 02
        In my region they almost did it (1990 - 40% Russians, 2025 - less than 14%)
      2. +13
        8 June 2025 12: 49
        The Russian person needs to throw off the burden of friendship of peoples (as one word), “multinationality” (in quotation marks).

        The Russian people must think about themselves and their future.

        Well, that's what he thought and decided to merge in ecstasy with the West. And for this he destroyed the USSR, read: "friendship of peoples (consolidated)" and "multinationality" (in quotes)"
        And what did you get in the end?
        The West ignores and wages war with... Ukraine(!).
        And ambiguous "multinationals".
        And all because he decided to “throw off the burden of friendship of peoples (in one word)”.
        -----
        There are 1.5 billion Chinese, and 10 times fewer Russians. We cannot afford to live in isolation.
        In order to stand and withstand all challenges, we must seek allies. Even the US (which no one attacks) is seeking allies.
        The Russian people assembled an Empire, which, taking the form of the USSR, won WWII.
        And not least of all, thanks to its “multinationality”.
        1. +4
          8 June 2025 18: 48
          How I feel from texts like these from the planet of pink ponies fool bang your head against the wall with your search for allies and the importation of millions of savages into the country.
          1. -6
            8 June 2025 19: 50
            And it seems like it's time for you to stop banging your head against the wall - it hasn't done you any good. Yes
            1. -1
              12 June 2025 10: 52
              Well, if a person in all seriousness in 2025 says that the Tajiks and Uzbeks won the Second World War, but without them it is absolutely impossible - banging your head against the wall is the best option. This eternal Noah about multinationality has already eaten a bald spot in the heads of the overwhelming majority of the Russian people, except for 3 categories: officials who raise money on this, red fools who still believe in the International, security who will foam at the mouth to defend any crap happening in the country shouting along the way "this is how it should be, don't rock the boat, we are a multinational country." And all the rest (and there are 90 percent of them) - I want to bang your head against the wall.
              Well, of course, the national minorities like all this, but you can’t even blame them for it.
              1. 0
                12 June 2025 16: 28
                Well, if a person in all seriousness in 2025 says that the Tajiks and Uzbeks won the Second World War
                Where in my comment does it say that "Tajiks and Uzbeks won WWII"?
                You're just distorting it. Question: why?
                ----
                Who are we fighting with now? With the Ukrainians. And who do you consider them: Russians or "multinationals"?
                Why are we fighting with them?
                Is it because in the 90s they decided to isolate themselves?
                So how did you isolate it?
                We now have more representatives from Central Asia working in Russia than during the Soviet era.
                They isolated themselves well, didn't they?
                ---
                So stop propagating enemy narratives.
      3. +4
        8 June 2025 12: 59
        And I am sure the Russian people will have their say.
        - in whose person and when?
    2. +6
      8 June 2025 06: 04
      Quote: Hunter 2
      The factories are plowed not by Dodik but by Vucic.

      That's what I'm saying - Romanian!
      Good morning bro hi
      1. +18
        8 June 2025 07: 06
        are we too huge? no, after 17-91 we are becoming smaller and smaller and the peoples who left us feel sorry for us, we have a lot of wealth? so we sell them in raw materials, it's cheaper and we don't worry about who (multinationalism is just nonsense, why should the only multinational country in the world be the Russian Federation, in the same Armenia, say that it is multinational, even the police will kick you out, or for example in Tashkent, say that Uzbekistan is the homeland for Russians, Koreans, Kazakhs and other nationalities and that's why the country is multinational, you will live a long time))? The agenda is clear, it pours out on TV every day, but here are the brothers, seasoned, cynical in places, and many have been and lived abroad, multinationalism doesn't work well for people like that, by the way, when a Pakistani woman becomes mayor in England, is that halal or kosher?
        1. -3
          8 June 2025 10: 11
          Well, if this guy respects matzah, then I think it’s completely kosher. Yes
          1. 0
            8 June 2025 10: 14
            maybe she's circumcised))she wasn't a Pakistani before but a Pakistani))) hi laughing
            1. -3
              8 June 2025 10: 19
              Hello hi "" ""
        2. +1
          8 June 2025 10: 42
          This agenda was laid down at least under Lenin (in reality under Peter I) - there is an article by him - On the great power chauvinism of the Great Russians.
          It is clearly stated there how to eat the Slavs.
          Therefore, all talk about some kind of empire (RI, USSR, RF) is empty chatter - in the absence of an empire-forming people - these entities are more reminiscent of the Khazar Khaganate or some kind of eastern despotism
        3. +4
          8 June 2025 12: 22
          Why the only multinational country in the world should be the Russian Federation


          Yes, because there are practically no Russians at the helm of Russia, mainly the Jews and guest workers, that's the entire ruling "elite"...
          1. +6
            8 June 2025 13: 59
            Well, who puts them there? Aliens? I'll just throw in a small analogy, take any group of national minorities in it, our people always support each other, our people put spokes in each other's wheels)) or cars collide on the road, there's a fuss, for example, an Uzbek is driving and this is Moscow, support will immediately come to the Uzbek, and it's good if a Russian community member approaches ours, the rest of the crowd will pass by and treat us with understanding (it's not about Jews or migrant workers)
        4. 0
          8 June 2025 14: 10
          Quote from Mazunga
          we have a lot of wealth? so we sell it as raw materials, it's cheaper and we don't care who

          If only they really sold them, but we actually give them away.
          1. +2
            9 June 2025 19: 58
            Definitely not me or you. Even though the text of my comment is too short. You believe in elections. Those who could be chosen are extremists for a long time, I don't know how to choose from the varieties of shit
            1. 0
              10 June 2025 12: 41
              Quote: Alexey Krasnogorsky
              You believe in elections.

              I am not a religious person at all, so the question is not quite to the point. laughing hi
        5. +2
          8 June 2025 16: 51
          For example, the PRC, despite the fact that Han Chinese make up 93 percent of the population, officially calls itself a multinational country. And India, Indonesia, and a number of other countries officially call themselves multinational states.
          1. +2
            8 June 2025 17: 02
            they are communists, the doctrine of internationalism)) on the other hand, the Uyghurs are not cool there
          2. 0
            8 June 2025 18: 52
            Yeah, they call it that))) and in the East they forbid people to believe in Islam in re-education camps))) it’s possible to be such a multinational country.
        6. -2
          9 June 2025 00: 56
          Quote from Mazunga
          By the way, when a Pakistani woman becomes mayor in England, is it halal or kosher?

          This is insanity and a precursor to the arrival of the White Brotherhood, which Vanga spoke about and promised "when Syria falls". Syria fell. Muslim women were brought in in unlimited quantities. Fertile to the point of disgrace. They say that their rudeness and impudence will not last long in Russia. We must wait for the "White Brotherhood". And this is not about Islam, but about Christianity.
          And I'm afraid of change. Any change. Even good ones.
      2. +2
        8 June 2025 11: 12
        Quote: Krasnodar
        That's what I'm saying - Romanian!

        "Who cares?" laughing
    3. +21
      8 June 2025 08: 06
      And regarding C4 it's far-fetched: the main producer in Europe is the Czech Republic. And these bastards won't spare anything for us.
      1. +22
        8 June 2025 08: 43
        Quote: Xenofont
        And regarding C4 it's far-fetched: the main producer in Europe is the Czech Republic. And these bastards won't spare anything for us.

        Well, yes, it's from the series - if there was an AK there, then it was definitely Russians.
        1. -1
          8 June 2025 10: 12
          "Russian? Soviet." (c) Yes
          1. +1
            8 June 2025 10: 13
            Quote from AdAstra
            "Russian? Soviet." (c)

            so yes, of course yes hi but still, for them the entire former Union is Russian, for the majority of ordinary people, you can’t say - “in fact, they are definitely Soviet...”?
        2. +5
          8 June 2025 10: 45
          It's just that with such a large number of trophies it won't be possible to prove anything with explosives - the culprits haven't been caught, and the sabotage and reconnaissance group is quite questionable - the border zone is heavily saturated with security forces and military personnel
    4. +9
      8 June 2025 08: 49
      Guy Mettan: "Russia - the West. The thousand-year war. Russophobia from Charlemagne to the crisis in Ukraine. Why we love to hate Russia so much."
      It takes a lot of courage to write such a deep, objective work.
    5. 0
      9 June 2025 01: 55
      Quote: Hunter 2
      Author - Buy a Globe! Dodik is the president of the Republic of Srpska, an entity within Bosnia and Herzegovina

      The state of Bosnia and Herzegovina is for the Serbs what the SS was for the prisoners of Auschwitz and Majdanek. The Islamists cannot fully resolve the Serbian and Jewish question until Russia is defeated.
  2. +26
    8 June 2025 04: 27
    VO and other RuNet forums also seethe with joy and happiness when something similar happens in the EU or the US. But the average Western user simply doesn't care - fifty trolls write on Western forums and Ukrainians who have moved there fight for their native motherland online. If you know the language well, it's easy to notice that a good third of those writing sentences in English are not good writers at all.
    1. +7
      8 June 2025 07: 14
      Google Translation does not automatically work)? tongue da no ok zavzem cook mandinga da then no complicated
  3. +63
    8 June 2025 04: 36
    Before someone from the outside should treat you with respect, you must first respect yourself. If you allow your rulers, their officials and their servants to wipe their feet on you, then don't expect respect from the inhabitants of other countries. And about "biological waste": if your own state disposes of you, replacing you with migrants, then who are you? Something like that.
    1. +35
      8 June 2025 04: 46
      Support!
      We need to start with ourselves. It seems like the authorities are deliberately bringing citizens to the boil.
      1. +28
        8 June 2025 07: 27
        So for them we are “new oil” and “elohtorat”, nothing more...
    2. +23
      8 June 2025 05: 53
      Quote: Monster_Fat
      And about "biological waste": if your own state disposes of you, replacing you with migrants, then who are you? Something like that.

      Yes Therefore, it is absolutely useless to express:
      A special "thank you" to our esteemed allies and supporters from BRICS and SCO. Thank you for the sympathy to our fallen fellow citizens that you "forgot" to express.

      But basically, to say anything about the article is to waste time. All active users have dozens of times expressed their attitude to the events happening in the country, and to the restoration of SMERSH, and to the restoration and use of IMSZ, and to the use of conventional weapons on factories that stamp out weapons for the Armed Forces of Ukraine, and to the destruction of the Nazi elite, and to the tunnels and bridges...
      Look, there are three sponsors - ardent Russophobes: Britain, France and Germany. They constantly get all of Europe worked up, always looking for adventures on their bottoms. And what's surprising is that with each time the Russian leadership puffs up their cheeks, the actions of these "partners" become more aggressive, their calls - more brazen, their supplies - more serious. After June 1, even Donald Fredovich became concerned about the future of Ukraine and its leadership - what, terrorist attacks were committed against elements of the nuclear triad. For a lesser evil, countries were rolled into nothingness and turned into places of residence for the survivors. And what about us?
      A German with a surprising resemblance to a cartoon villain manipulates his "Tauruses" in front of Russia... What's there to list - the entire unity of NATO is based only on Russia's unresponsive position and their impunity.
      And we continue to excite each other with spontaneous thoughts with or without reason.
      And today we remembered the apathy that has arisen towards the daily murders of Russian citizens.
      Just know and do what needs to be done

      And here, in general, the only thing left to do is to put at the head of the state a leadership that will not wag its tongue, shaking the air, and call on its assistants and deputies, "insane" from greed, to be careful and attentive. Maybe the country needs a tsar who will have good boyars?
      1. +2
        8 June 2025 06: 08
        Quote: ROSS 42
        Maybe the country needs a tsar who will also have good boyars?

        The country needs compulsory military service for all boys, for a year and a half, and without a parade ground, reports for every sneeze, wall newspapers and parades, as well as annual retraining of reservists until they are about forty. The rest: the tsar, the boyars, the servants, the jesters, the minstrels, the heralds - are of secondary importance.
        1. +6
          8 June 2025 07: 32
          Quote: Krasnodar
          The country needs compulsory military service for all boys, for a year and a half, without a parade ground, reports for every sneeze, wall newspapers and parades, as well as annual retraining of reservists up to the age of forty.

          There are always people on the site with business proposals.
          I would add to the squad conscripts - boys and girls with a service term of six months... Like the Israeli army. Everyone should be able to defend the Motherland.
          Most likely, students of medical universities and graduates of such universities working in their specialty, as well as especially gifted young people who have demonstrated specific results after graduating from technical universities, should be exempted from this principle of military service.
          Quote: Krasnodar
          The rest: the tsar, the boyars, the servants, the jesters, the minstrels, the heralds - are of secondary importance.

          Moreover, we heard from first-term presidential candidates about the need to reduce the number of various kinds of “slackers” who have attached themselves to the court.
          1. -2
            8 June 2025 09: 03
            Quote: ROSS 42
            Most likely, students of medical universities and graduates of such universities working in their specialty, as well as especially gifted young people who have demonstrated specific results after graduating from technical universities, should be exempted from this principle of military service.

            No, why? First the emergency, and then the rest
            Quote: ROSS 42
            also especially gifted young people who have demonstrated specific results after graduating from technical universities.

            If they sign a contract before studying to serve in the army in their specialty for several years. Well, or to work in a weapons/related design bureau
            Quote: ROSS 42
            who have attached themselves to the yard

            These are always and everywhere. It's their breed. laughing
        2. man
          +9
          8 June 2025 07: 53
          The country needs compulsory military service for all boys, for a year and a half
          There will be a grand escape from the country.
          1. +2
            8 June 2025 09: 04
            Quote: mann
            There will be a grand escape from the country.

            So those who want to live here, and are not forced to, will stay.
          2. +3
            8 June 2025 10: 12
            And what does the homeland give in return?
            1. man
              +3
              8 June 2025 11: 39
              Quote: Eugene_4
              And what does the homeland give in return?

              I just made a guess. I think that in this case I have no right to judge anyone, since they don't take people my age into the army. Not even generals.
              Although under the USSR the attitude would have been completely different...
            2. -2
              8 June 2025 14: 17
              Quote: Eugene_4
              And what does the homeland give in return?

              Don't ask what your country can do for you, as Mrs. Onassis's first husband used to say.
              1. +1
                8 June 2025 17: 23
                Quote: Krasnodar
                Mrs. Onassis' first husband said

                They reminded me of Megadeth (Take no prisoners) - I listened to it a quarter of a century ago. Only there it's the other way around.
        3. +19
          8 June 2025 08: 50
          Krasnodar
          0
          Today, 06: 08
          Quote: ROSS 42
          Maybe the country needs a tsar who will also have good boyars?
          The country needs compulsory military service for all boys, for a year and a half, and without a parade ground, reports for every sneeze, wall newspapers and parades, as well as annual retraining of reservists until they are about forty. The rest: the tsar, the boyars, the servants, the jesters, the minstrels, the heralds - are of secondary importance.
          Are you kidding me? Or do you really believe this? Well, they've trained the fighters, and yet another clown in uniform, like Puzik, will throw them to the slaughter or drive them to storm fortifications without the support of artillery and drones? Have you forgotten the proverb about an army of lions led by a ram? Or do you want to put all our guys in the ground, as our government wants? Because what they do, or rather don't do, does not contribute to the speedy end of the war in the form of the capitulation of the Ukrainian Reich. The Nazi top brass is not touched, the bridges are intact, the energy system is intact. They are fighting at full strength and still manage to commit sabotage on our railways and strategic airfields. What's next? Nuclear power plants? SSBN bases? This is all a consequence of the criminal inaction of the authorities! And you say - it's a minor matter... No way, if the fish rots from the head, then you have to start from the head, otherwise the whole fish will perish!
          1. -4
            8 June 2025 09: 23
            Quote: Goscha
            Well, we've prepared the fighters, and now another clown in uniform, like Puzik, will throw them to the slaughter or drive them to storm the fortifications without the support of artillery and drones?

            So the parents of the fighters will eat him up, because everyone will serve in the army. He will be afraid.
            Quote: Goscha
            Have you forgotten the proverb about an army of lions led by a ram?

            I don't think someone like that will stay at the helm for long. Yes
            Quote: Goscha
            Or do you want to put all our guys in the ground, as our government wants?

            Our government sends contract soldiers there, not conscripts, and a contract is voluntary.
            Quote: Goscha
            Because what they do, or rather what they don’t do, does not in any way contribute to a speedy end to the war in the form of the capitulation of the Ukrainian Reich.

            And who to do it with? Here one OFFICER before the SVO complained to me that his airborne unit does not have ITS OWN PLANES, when I asked why they are needed, since the last parachute landing as part of a battalion landed in 1956 on the Sinai Peninsula after the suppression of three neighboring 37 mm anti-aircraft guns, he waved his hand - like a war with shepherds and a war with NATO are different things ... what I did not understand, by the way - the West has air defense, including fighter, everything is in perfect order. With a people's army, which I am writing about, there would be a different analysis and a different level of qualification.

            Quote: Goscha
            The Nazi top brass is not touched, the bridges are intact, the energy is intact

            They don't touch the energy sector, because in response the Ukrainian opponents will be able to wheedle more modern toys and bridges from the West - I agree, it's not clear why, and the top... they should have knocked down the entire top brass a long time ago, as well as the entire general staff and the heads of the SBU, GUR, and other figures.

            Quote: Goscha
            This is all a consequence of the criminal inaction of the authorities!

            This is all a consequence of a non-militarized society.
            In a country where military affairs are of interest to everyone, there may be some failures, but, in general, everything looks different

            Quote: Goscha
            If a fish rots from the head, you have to start from the head, otherwise the whole fish will perish!

            The head is a product of modern Russia, not the other way around
            1. +8
              8 June 2025 10: 15
              How many fighters' parents have eaten these days that they are afraid?
              1. -5
                8 June 2025 10: 16
                Quote from AdAstra
                How many fighters' parents have eaten these days that they are afraid?

                Now the structure of the army is completely different and the people, accordingly, perceive everything differently
                1. +8
                  8 June 2025 10: 55
                  Quote: Krasnodar
                  Quote from AdAstra
                  How many fighters' parents have eaten these days that they are afraid?

                  Now the structure of the army is completely different and the people, accordingly, perceive everything differently

                  In Soviet times, they ate a lot - when everyone was serving?
                  1. -5
                    8 June 2025 10: 58
                    Quote: your1970

                    In Soviet times, they ate a lot - when everyone was serving?

                    In Soviet times there was a military department, before that there was a harsh dictatorship
                    1. +7
                      8 June 2025 11: 12
                      Quote: Krasnodar
                      Quote: your1970

                      In Soviet times, they ate a lot - when everyone was serving?

                      In Soviet times there was a military department, before that there was a harsh dictatorship

                      And what does the military department have to do with your statement?
                      Quote: Krasnodar
                      So the parents of the fighters will eat him up, because everyone will serve in the army. He will be afraid.

                      How many military commissars were eaten by the parents of those killed during training exercises, at Zholanashkola and Damansky, in Afghanistan?
                      1. -4
                        8 June 2025 11: 19
                        Quote: your1970
                        what does the military department have to do with your statement

                        To the fact that it raised generations of people who did not do military service legally, and even with higher education. Who in the army understood, as I do, the intricacies of acting Kabuki

                        Quote: your1970
                        How many military commissars were eaten?

                        What do military commissars have to do with this?
                      2. +7
                        8 June 2025 11: 23
                        Quote: Krasnodar
                        What do military commissars have to do with this?

                        And who could the parents of a conscript eat?
                        Quote: Krasnodar
                        So the parents of the fighters will eat him up, because everyone will serve in the army. He will be afraid.
                        - Soviet marshals persuaded to invade Afghanistan?
                        The maximum they had available was a military commissar
                      3. -4
                        8 June 2025 11: 26
                        Quote: your1970
                        who could have been eaten by the parents of a conscript

                        Under the Soviet Union, they could quietly punish the immediate commander, but without social networks, etc., finding him quietly and without being noticed was quite a task.
                        Quote: your1970
                        Soviet marshals persuaded to invade Afghanistan?

                        This is already a different song and category.
                      4. +7
                        8 June 2025 11: 31
                        Quote: Krasnodar
                        Quote: your1970
                        who could have been eaten by the parents of a conscript

                        Under the Soviet Union, they could quietly punish the immediate commander, but without social networks, etc., finding him quietly and without being noticed was quite a task.
                        Quote: your1970
                        Soviet marshals persuaded to invade Afghanistan?

                        This is already a different song and category.

                        Of the 11 people who came to Kushka in 1988 in my team, 6 were demobilized.
                        Without war and Afghanistan
                      5. -4
                        8 June 2025 11: 37
                        Quote: your1970
                        Of the 11 people who came to Kushka in 1988 in my team, 6 were demobilized.

                        Bad, very bad
                      6. +4
                        8 June 2025 13: 56
                        Quote: Krasnodar
                        Quote: your1970
                        Of the 11 people who came to Kushka in 1988 in my team, 6 were demobilized.

                        Bad, very bad

                        And what?
                      7. -2
                        8 June 2025 14: 00
                        Quote: your1970
                        And what?

                        Nothing
                        Good
                      8. +4
                        8 June 2025 15: 59
                        Quote: Krasnodar
                        Quote: your1970
                        And what?

                        Nothing
                        Good

                        В your logic The fathers had to find 2 regiment commanders and kill them (they died because of them), the others had to find 2 platoon commanders and kill them (they died because of their stupidity). And one had to talk to our regiment commander and happily wave his hand, "Thank God no one is to blame - he blundered when the self-propelled gun crushed him. Well, he died and died."
                        Apparently so, right? Everyone served in the army...
                        Quote: Krasnodar
                        So the parents of the fighters will eat him up, because everyone will serve in the army. He will be afraid.

                      9. -1
                        8 June 2025 17: 54
                        Quote: your1970
                        The fathers had to find 2 regiment commanders and kill them (they died because of them), the others had to find 2 platoon commanders and kill them (they died because of their stupidity). And one had to talk to our regiment commander and happily wave his hand, "Thank God no one is to blame - he blundered when the self-propelled gun crushed him. Well, he died and died."

                        I'm scared to imagine myself in their fathers' place, but I know what I would do
                  2. man
                    -1
                    8 June 2025 14: 21
                    Quote: your1970
                    Quote: Krasnodar
                    Quote from AdAstra
                    How many fighters' parents have eaten these days that they are afraid?

                    Now the structure of the army is completely different and the people, accordingly, perceive everything differently

                    In Soviet times, they ate a lot - when everyone was serving?

                    In Soviet times, parents were different smile
                    I missed the physics labs at the institute (I just skipped them... that's how it happened), but I knew physics really well and the physics teacher
                    strongly advised to bring my father to the department meeting... the issue of not allowing me to take the exam and, accordingly, expelling me from the institute (!) was being decided, the head of the department was a very stern man. But the dacha of the late professor grandfather stood next to the dacha of the head of the department and, of course, he knew my father. So my father categorically refused, saying that not everyone can get a higher education, you'll go to a factory. What factory, I begged, they'll take me to the army. No big deal, my father answered, I served in the army for 25 (I don't remember exactly) years, well, you can serve a couple of years too! laughing
                    1. +4
                      8 June 2025 16: 13
                      Quote: mann
                      In Soviet times, parents were different

                      In this case, we were taken in by the slogans Kranodar - as it turned out, an Israeli lol lol
                      So the parents were different...
                      1. man
                        0
                        8 June 2025 17: 11
                        Quote: your1970
                        Quote: mann
                        In Soviet times, parents were different

                        In this case, we were taken in by the slogans Kranodar - as it turned out, an Israeli lol lol
                        So the parents were different...

                        People are generally different at all times... but, alas, I have never met people like those in Soviet times under capitalism...
                      2. +4
                        8 June 2025 17: 24
                        Quote: mann
                        People are generally different at all times... but, alas, I have never met people like those in Soviet times under capitalism...

                        And the grass was greener... (C) feel

                        Only later literally in 1 day From somewhere came Banderovites, forest brothers, bandits, prostitutes, corrupt officials, fans of Chumak and Kashpirovsky with their asses in front of the TV, traders, bureaucrats, racketeers, oligarchs and so on, so on, so on...
                      3. man
                        -1
                        8 June 2025 17: 34
                        Only then, in one day, Banderites, forest brothers, literally appeared from nowhere
                        Well, these people died out by the 70s and 80s or were very old and kept quiet.
                        bandits, oligarchs and so on, so on, so on....

                        I still can't understand where these came from!
                        It seems like we were brought up on the same books, films... how could you kill people for money... request
                      4. +2
                        9 June 2025 06: 31
                        Quote: mann
                        Well, these ones extinct by the 70-80s or were deep old men and kept quiet

                        Are you serious???!!! A war veterans - also died out or were very old - they peers there were a lot of them!!!!
                        In 1988, my battalion commander, a Ukrainian, a DShB soldier with a fist like a weight, was beaten up by the youth in Ukraine for a ruble - not a karbovanets - so much that he spent six months in the hospital. Young - but already Banderites and nationalists - such were their grandfathers who raised them...
                2. +6
                  8 June 2025 10: 58
                  Quote: Krasnodar
                  Quote from AdAstra
                  How many fighters' parents have eaten these days that they are afraid?

                  Now the structure of the army is completely different and the people, accordingly, perceive everything differently

                  And in your case, it turns out that parents should and will control the actions of army commanders? And accordingly, evaluate the "rightness-wrongness" of these actions? And also have "levers of influence" on the command staff? It's not even funny...
                  1. -6
                    8 June 2025 11: 04
                    Quote: Adrey
                    In your case, it turns out that parents should and will control the actions of army commanders?

                    In no case
                    Quote: Adrey
                    And accordingly, give an assessment of the “rightness or wrongness” of these actions?

                    If dad served in the army and took part in military operations, then, according to the stories of his fellow soldiers, he will know and understand how everything was
                    Quote: Adrey
                    And also have "levers of influence" on the command staff?

                    He will have no leverage. laughing
                    He will simply be able to find his immediate commander and further down the chain. Yes
                    1. +5
                      8 June 2025 11: 11
                      Quote: Krasnodar
                      Quote: Goscha
                      Well, we've prepared the fighters, and now another clown in uniform, like Puzik, will throw them to the slaughter or drive them to storm the fortifications without the support of artillery and drones?

                      So the parents of the fighters will eat him up, because everyone will serve in the army. He will be afraid.

                      Then how should we perceive this expression of yours? In order to "devour" it is necessary to have access to objective information, to have methods of evaluation and mechanisms of influence.
                      Having these funds, the person (group of persons) will essentially be the leaders of the structure.
                      1. -5
                        8 June 2025 11: 14
                        Quote: Adrey
                        Then how should we perceive this expression of yours? In order to "devour" it, one must have access to objective information,

                        After talking with colleagues - it will be
                        Quote: Adrey
                        have evaluation methods

                        My father, who served and fought, has them.
                        Quote: Adrey
                        mechanisms of influence.

                        There are a ton of them
                        And if everyone serves in the army, there will be even more mechanisms))
                        From
                        Quote: Adrey
                        Having these funds, the person (group of persons) will essentially be the leaders of the structure.

                        How so?
                      2. +2
                        8 June 2025 11: 25
                        Quote: Krasnodar
                        After talking with colleagues - it will be

                        To begin with, you need to have the opportunity to "communicate", and your colleagues need to have a desire for such "communication" (and don't forget about all the vultures). In addition, a sergeant and a colonel see slightly different "pictures" of the same event.
                        Quote: Krasnodar
                        My father, who served and fought, has them.

                        Sergeant or Colonel?
                        Quote: Krasnodar
                        There are a ton of them
                        And if everyone serves in the army, there will be even more mechanisms

                        For example, write a letter to the President or the Minister of Defense laughing
                        Quote: Krasnodar
                        Having these funds, the person (group of persons) will essentially be the leaders of the structure.

                        How so?

                        Either the head of the structure or the “gray cardinal” can have the entire spectrum of opportunities I described above.
                      3. -5
                        8 June 2025 11: 33
                        In my military service, my parents knew my fellow servicemen and communicated with their parents on a regular basis.
                        Of course, a colonel can give the most idiotic order, in the sergeant’s opinion, but he can also explain it to his parents, and those who served will understand.
                        And I don’t need to write letters to anyone - the children of high-ranking police officers, the son of a politician and even a crime boss served with me laughing
                        But
                        It was Israel hi
                      4. +3
                        8 June 2025 11: 37
                        Quote: Krasnodar
                        But
                        It was Israel

                        laughing good hi
                    2. +3
                      8 June 2025 11: 17
                      Quote: Krasnodar
                      He will simply be able to find his immediate commander and further down the chain.

                      Quote: Krasnodar
                      If dad served in the army and took part in military operations, then, according to the stories of his fellow soldiers, he will know and understand how everything was

                      Yeah, and then it's like in the joke
                      "Call the pig ensign, I'll come to demobilize you and slaughter you!" (c)
                      Kindergarten naivety...
                      1. -4
                        8 June 2025 11: 20
                        Quote: your1970
                        Call the pig ensign, I'll come to demobilize you and slaughter you!" (c)

                        What for? laughing
                      2. +2
                        8 June 2025 11: 29
                        Quote: Krasnodar
                        Quote: your1970
                        Call the pig ensign, I'll come to demobilize you and slaughter you!" (c)

                        What for? laughing

                        well, like this
                        Quote: Krasnodar
                        He will simply be able to find his immediate commander and further down the chain.
                        - you don't specify why: to say thank you for someone who died due to stupidity, for show, or to split the jug with an axe?
                        Well, did you find it?
                      3. -3
                        8 June 2025 14: 19
                        Quote: your1970
                        Well, did you find it?

                        "And let's communicate with the serfs" (c)
                3. +3
                  8 June 2025 16: 55
                  Half the country doesn't want to know anything about the war. People chip in from their pensions and officials spend crazy amounts of money on celebrations, not to mention replacing curbs and the like. Are we still one people? Those who fight and chip in, and those who celebrate and have fun pretending that everything is fine with us? An article about how they don't sincerely love us abroad? And what about ourselves? Has the house not divided within itself yet or already? Into new feudal lords and their servants and into speechless servants? Into parasites and their donors? Why look abroad, the injected poison has long been destroying the spirit of our people. We must begin with internal healing. Look after the recovered and the rest of the crippled nations will want to stand up against the global spider, who dissolved all the governing structures of their countries with his information poison, and subjugated them.
            2. 0
              8 June 2025 16: 02
              Quote: Krasnodar
              Energy is not touched

              It's a lie, by the way...
              1. +3
                8 June 2025 17: 55
                Quote: Paranoid62
                It's a lie, by the way...

                This means that critical infrastructure is not being knocked out.
          2. -1
            10 June 2025 16: 05
            If a fish rots from the head, you have to start from the head, otherwise the whole fish will perish!
            So they [the people] will again choose the same hard head, the people are stupid and gullible, the majority still believe television and the media...
        4. +4
          8 June 2025 09: 29
          Quote: Krasnodar
          The rest: the tsar, the boyars, the heralds - are of secondary importance.

          No, without the right tsar and boyars there will not be what you wrote about at the beginning. And the right servants, minstrels, jesters, etc. will not exist either.
          1. -2
            8 June 2025 09: 35
            Quote: Krasnoyarsk
            Without the right tsar and boyars, what you wrote about at the beginning will not happen.

            It's a question of the people's will.
            1. +3
              8 June 2025 09: 46
              Quote: Krasnodar

              It's a question of the people's will.

              laughing laughing Have I answered you eloquently?
              1. -3
                8 June 2025 10: 00
                Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                Quote: Krasnodar

                It's a question of the people's will.

                laughing laughing Have I answered you eloquently?

                laughing we have a dispute between a blind man and a deaf man))
                Let's put it this way - if the people are paternalistic and are waiting for a strong hand so that, well, to put it mildly, this hand will limit them in their own sloppiness, then you are certainly right.
                If people want to be, and not seem to be, then I am right))
                To be even more specific, when people tell you that you're cool because your grandfathers defeated Nazism, you need to think about how much you have in common with your grandfathers.
                But, instead, you can think something else - our grandfathers had Stalin
                The fact that he laid them down by the millions and not only in the war is somehow not remembered in this case ))
                What I mean is that everything always depends on the will of the people, and not on narratives from above. Yes
                1. +1
                  8 June 2025 15: 46
                  Quote: Krasnodar
                  Let's put it this way - if the people are paternalistic...

                  The people? A paternalist? They, the people, care about the government and make decisions for the government? My imagination is not enough to comprehend this.

                  Quote: Krasnodar

                  Let's put it this way - if the people are paternalistic and are waiting for a strong hand,

                  "The people are paternalistic" and "the people are waiting for a strong hand" are incompatible concepts. Either or.
                  Rather, you meant a paternalistic government, and the people expect a "strong hand" from such a government. Then everything fits together.
                  Quote: Krasnodar
                  If people want to be, and not seem to be, then I am right.

                  No, you are wrong. Your mistake is that you consider power and people separately. And this is a symbiosis. There cannot be a people without power and power without a people.
                  And the government is not what the people are, but the people are what the government is.
                  And this is a maxim.
                  And only naive dreamers think that the people can “elect” the government they dream of, no matter what the people think of themselves.
                  A group of people, with the help of the people, regardless of what kind of people they are, ochlos or demos, by manipulating them, comes to power.
                  Quote: Krasnodar
                  But, instead, you can think something else - our grandfathers had Stalin

                  Absolutely right. Stalin was able to organize the people to achieve victory. It was not the people who organized themselves, the people would not be able to do this under any circumstances on such a scale, but the government organized it.
                  Quote: Krasnodar
                  The fact that he laid them down by the millions and not only in the war is somehow not remembered in this case ))

                  Blah-blah-blah from someone else's voice. And, everything is known in comparison. Head on shoulders (?) compare.
                  Quote: Krasnodar
                  What I mean is that everything always depends on the will of the people, and not on narratives from above.

                  Everything depends on a small group of people who came to power by manipulating the people. Krasnodar, I like your naivety in this matter, but alas for you.
                  1. +1
                    8 June 2025 17: 51
                    Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                    Paternalist?

                    Well, what do you call a people who want to delegate most of their powers to the authorities for the sake of a life without headaches and stress?
                    Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                    Rather, you meant a paternalistic government, and the people expect a "strong hand" from such a government. Then everything fits together.

                    Yes
                    Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                    There cannot be a people without power and power without a people.

                    I agree, but I always write that power is a part of the people.
                    Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                    , the government is not what the people are, but the people are what the government is.

                    I think the opposite
                    Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                    Only naive dreamers think that the people can "elect" the government they dream of, no matter what the people think of themselves.

                    What difference does it make whether to elect or not. The government comes from the people, not the other way around ))
                    Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                    Stalin was able to organize the people to achieve victory

                    After a severe failure and unjustified sacrifices
                    Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                    , everything is known in comparison. Head on shoulders (?) compare.

                    What are you comparing? Haven't you heard about the millions of prisoners at the beginning of the war, most of whom died? About Stalin's collectivization and its consequences?
                    Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                    manipulating the people.

                    Whot
                    Now back to our sheep
                    Is it possible to manipulate people in a topic that they understand very well? ))
                    1. +1
                      8 June 2025 20: 51
                      Quote: Krasnodar

                      Well, what do you call a people who want to delegate most of their powers to the authorities for the sake of a life without headaches and stress?

                      People cannot want something that, for the most part, they do not understand or do not know.
                      The people want a better life for everyone, not just for their own, not very large part.
                      Quote: Krasnodar
                      I agree, but I always write that power is a part of the people.

                      You can write whatever comes into your head, but is it really so?
                      If you ask a representative of power whether he feels part of the people (?), then most will answer with a contemptuous grimace. And I know this firsthand. I had to communicate with them in the 90s. And the people in the chair of power changed, but the attitude remained the same. One might think that this chair treats the people this way, and not the people, replacing each other, sitting in this chair.
                      Quote: Krasnodar

                      , the government is not what the people are, but the people are what the government is.
                      I think the opposite

                      And you compare the Soviet people and the modern ones. The government has changed and the people have changed. I am talking about the majority.
                      The people can be divided into 3 groups. 1. Passionaries. 2. Demos. 3. Ochlos.
                      During Stalin's time, the passionaries were in power. The hour of the demos flowed into the passionaries and part of the ochlos flowed into the demos. Under Yeltsin, the reverse flow occurred. The passionaries all flowed into the demos, and the majority of the people flowed into the ochlos. This is the picture today.
                      Quote: Krasnodar

                      "Stalin was able to organize the people to achieve victory"
                      After a severe failure and unjustified sacrifices

                      Have you ever met a person in your life who never made mistakes?
                      Stalin probably made tactical mistakes in appointing this or that executor. But he did not make a single strategic mistake. And were the unjustified victims due to Stalin's mistakes personally? Or were there others involved in this?
                      Quote: Krasnodar

                      What's there to compare? Haven't you heard about the millions of prisoners at the beginning of the war, most of whom died?

                      Of course I heard. Only you heard it from people who are not immersed in the topic, who don't even know, laymen, and I heard it from a person who devoted his life to researching "repressions", collectivization, Soviet prisoners and the number of people killed during the Great Patriotic War. Zemskov V.N., Doctor of Historical Sciences. Take an interest.
                      Quote: Krasnodar

                      Is it possible to manipulate people in a topic that they understand very well? ))

                      You have moved from specifics to general philosophical questions.
                      This is not the place to discuss everything and nothing.
                      1. +1
                        9 June 2025 05: 18
                        Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                        The people want a better life for everyone, not just for their own, not very large part.

                        Of course. But he expects this from his uncle in power.
                        Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                        does he feel himself part of the people(?), then the majority will answer with a contemptuous grimace. And I know this firsthand. I had to communicate with them in the 90s.

                        laughing so the Martians brought them to Russia, aren't they local? ))
                        Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                        does he feel like part of the people

                        He can feel like the reincarnation of Julius Caesar, nothing cancels the fact that he studied with the people in the same school, was an Octoberist, then a pioneer, then a Komsomol member, etc.
                        He is one of the people. Period.

                        Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                        You compare the Soviet people and the modern ones.

                        The Soviet people were more intimidated, but less cultured. Now I don't see elevators with buttons burnt by matches, for example.
                        Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                        The government has changed and the people have changed. I am talking about the majority.

                        Oh...and the good Soviet people, at the first hint of a change of power, began to do indecent things to workers and irons, etc.
                        Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                        The hour of the demos flowed into the passionaries and part of the ochlos flowed into the demos.

                        Determine who was demos and who was ochlos under Stalin))
                        Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                        The passionaries all flowed into the demos, and the majority of the people flowed into the ochlos.

                        Can you give me some clear definitions? As far as I understand, you want to say that under Yeltsin, some party members went into business, and the majority became impoverished?
                        Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                        Have you ever met a person in your life who never made mistakes?
                        Stalin probably made tactical mistakes in appointing this or that executor

                        And strategic collectivization of a non-Trotskyist type, as well as a reshuffling of ranks in the army with the introduction of heads - then it was necessary to urgently release all sorts of Rokossovskys from prison
                        Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                        But he didn't make a single strategic mistake.

                        lol
                        Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                        And were the unjustified victims due to Stalin's mistakes personally? Or were there others involved?

                        He bent the system to suit himself, starting his career as the spokesman for the will of the majority.
                        Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                        Only you heard from people who are not immersed in the topic, who don’t even know, laymen

                        And what does he write? There weren't millions of prisoners in 1941?
                        Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                        You have moved from specifics to general philosophical questions.

                        Why? You can't fool people who serve in a combat-ready army about military affairs.
                        This is where we started, and the rest we moved on from there ))
                      2. -1
                        9 June 2025 12: 49
                        The Soviet people were more intimidated, but less cultured.
                        Any modest person, compared to an impudent one, is, of course, intimidated. The Soviet grew up on the magazines "Quantum", "Modelist-Constructor", etc., in a huge number of accessible circles, sections. But this is not the basis of culture, its sufficient sign is a pure elevator. Your categoricalness is unconditional.
                      3. 0
                        9 June 2025 13: 01
                        Quote: Alexander Ra
                        The Soviet Union grew up on the magazines "Quantum" and "Modelist-Constructor"

                        That's why, immediately after the collapse of the Union, irons and soldering irons found such an original use))
                      4. -1
                        9 June 2025 13: 00
                        Quote: Krasnodar
                        Of course. But he expects this from his uncle in power.

                        Of course. Otherwise, what, in your opinion, is the function of power?
                        In organizing the people to achieve the goal of improving the life of the entire people, and not a separate group from this people.
                        Quote: Krasnodar
                        so the Martians brought them to Russia, aren't they local? ))

                        How neglected everything is. Hence the primitiveness of thought. Read the classics, don't be shy, you can learn a lot from them.
                        Quote: Krasnodar
                        The Soviet people were more intimidated, but less cultured. Now I don't come across elevators with

                        Yeah. I remember the distant year of 72, my sister and I were walking down the street in Divnogorsk, two guys were walking towards us, not noticing us, arguing heatedly about something with the use of obscenities. Seeing us, they stopped and... - "Girl, forgive me, we didn't see you"
                        Today, to hear swearing, you don't have to go outside, just turn on the TV. Culture has blossomed in full bloom. I don't know who intimidated you, but personally I have never experienced anything like that.
                        Quote: Krasnodar
                        Oh...and the good Soviet people, at the first hint of a change of power, began to do indecent things to workers and irons, etc.

                        Well, yes, it happened. Representatives of the ochlos category, in order to enter power, "earned" start-up capital. Those of them who did not perish in the competitive struggle, nevertheless entered power. And if they did not enter power, they began to exert a very great influence on the government and even subjugated it to themselves. Will you argue?
                        Quote: Krasnodar

                        Determine who was demos and who was ochlos under Stalin))

                        Are you suggesting that I give you a lecture? Do I need it? There is a search engine, we have learned to read, so let's go and sing along
                        Quote: Krasnodar

                        And strategic types of collectivization are not

                        You see, you have gathered information about what you are going to judge (collectivization, industrialization, repressions, purges in the party and army) from various political scientists, writers, satirists and other scribblers, and you like this information because it helps you stand in the pose of an accuser. It is very convenient to accuse without being held responsible for anything. And this flatters your vanity. By accusing the "powers that be", but who have already left this world, you seem to elevate yourself in your own eyes and in the eyes of those who, like you, do not know the essence of the issue. But once you delve into the essence of the issue thanks to the help of historical researchers, you will have to reconsider your attitude to those events. Believe me.
                        Quote: Krasnodar

                        He bent the system to suit himself, starting his career as the spokesman for the will of the majority.

                        Due to your illiteracy in these matters, you are completely unfamiliar with the structure of power in the USSR during the Stalin period.
                        June 30, 1941 - date of formation of the State Committee
                        On August 8, 1941, Stalin was appointed Supreme Commander-in-Chief. From that time on, the Headquarters was called the Supreme High Command Headquarters (SHGK). It was from that day that Stalin received full power in the USSR. But this does not mean that Stalin personally issued decrees and orders. All decisions of the SHGK were made collectively. It is just that all decisions were signed by Stalin.
                        Quote: Krasnodar

                        And what does he write? There weren't millions of prisoners in 1941?

                        Here you are again, wanting to get information from a person far from this topic. Advice - read those who have professionally researched this topic. You will learn a lot of interesting things. And, at the same time, you will evaluate those who conveyed to you biased, prejudiced, and often simply false information.
                        Quote: Krasnodar
                        Why? You can't fool people who serve in a combat-ready army about military affairs.

                        Well, yes, well, yes. Any soldier sees from his trench how many, how many comrades of a company? Regiment? Division? Army? Yes, what about an army, he sees, knows and understands everything at the Supreme level.
                      5. 0
                        9 June 2025 13: 25
                        Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                        Otherwise, what, in your opinion, is the function of power?

                        In the performance of management functions that the people delegated to her

                        Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                        Read the classics

                        I read all the time - where does our power come from, are the Vikings foreigners or the Jews who came here? lol
                        Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                        Seeing us, they stopped and... - "Girl, I'm sorry, we didn't see you."
                        Today, to hear swearing, you don't have to go outside, just turn on the TV. Culture has blossomed in full bloom. I don't know who intimidated you, but personally I have never experienced anything like that.

                        I was 14 years old when the Union collapsed, but adults were afraid to tell jokes about Brezhnev outside the kitchen laughing
                        And even there - not in front of everyone))
                        Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                        Representatives of the rabble category, in order to enter into power, “accumulated” start-up capital.

                        You call graduates and students of physical education and sports institutes, most of whom were also Komsomol members, rabble? ))
                        Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                        Those of them who did not perish in the competitive struggle, nevertheless entered into power. And if they did not enter into power, then they began to exert a very great influence on the government and even subjugated it to themselves. Will you argue?

                        I know little about this topic - only a few people entered into power, their influence was limited in time, etc.
                        Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                        There is a search engine, we have learned to read, go ahead and sing

                        A parallel to the demos is, say, the kulaks destroyed by Stalin, that is, the hard-working peasants who owned land.
                        Okhlos - the proletariat and landless peasants? Reader You are ours laughing
                        Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                        Quote: Krasnodar
                        Of course. But he expects this from his uncle in power.

                        Of course. Otherwise, what, in your opinion, is the function of power?
                        In organizing the people to achieve the goal of improving the life of the entire people, and not a separate group from this people.
                        Quote: Krasnodar
                        so the Martians brought them to Russia, aren't they local? ))

                        How neglected everything is. Hence the primitiveness of thought. Read the classics, don't be shy, you can learn a lot from them.
                        Quote: Krasnodar
                        The Soviet people were more intimidated, but less cultured. Now I don't come across elevators with

                        Yeah. I remember the distant year of 72, my sister and I were walking down the street in Divnogorsk, two guys were walking towards us, not noticing us, arguing heatedly about something with the use of obscenities. Seeing us, they stopped and... - "Girl, forgive me, we didn't see you"
                        Today, to hear swearing, you don't have to go outside, just turn on the TV. Culture has blossomed in full bloom. I don't know who intimidated you, but personally I have never experienced anything like that.
                        Quote: Krasnodar
                        Oh...and the good Soviet people, at the first hint of a change of power, began to do indecent things to workers and irons, etc.

                        Well, yes, it happened. Representatives of the ochlos category, in order to enter power, "earned" start-up capital. Those of them who did not perish in the competitive struggle, nevertheless entered power. And if they did not enter power, they began to exert a very great influence on the government and even subjugated it to themselves. Will you argue?
                        Quote: Krasnodar

                        Determine who was demos and who was ochlos under Stalin))

                        Are you suggesting that I give you a lecture? Do I need it? There is a search engine, we have learned to read, so let's go and sing along
                        Quote: Krasnodar

                        And strategic types of collectivization are not

                        You see, you have gathered information about what you are going to judge (collectivization, industrialization, repressions, purges in the party and army) from various political scientists, writers, satirists and other scribblers, and you like this information because it helps you stand in the pose of an accuser. It is very convenient to accuse without being held responsible for anything. And this flatters your vanity. By accusing the "powers that be", but who have already left this world, you seem to elevate yourself in your own eyes and in the eyes of those who, like you, do not know the essence of the issue. But once you delve into the essence of the issue thanks to the help of historical researchers, you will have to reconsider your attitude to those events. Believe me.
                        Quote: Krasnodar

                        He bent the system to suit himself, starting his career as the spokesman for the will of the majority.

                        Due to your illiteracy in these matters, you are completely unfamiliar with the structure of power in the USSR during the Stalin period.
                        June 30, 1941 - date of formation of the State Committee
                        On August 8, 1941, Stalin was appointed Supreme Commander-in-Chief. From that time on, the Headquarters was called the Supreme High Command Headquarters (SHGK). It was from that day that Stalin received full power in the USSR. But this does not mean that Stalin personally issued decrees and orders. All decisions of the SHGK were made collectively. It is just that all decisions were signed by Stalin.
                        Quote: Krasnodar

                        And what does he write? There weren't millions of prisoners in 1941?

                        Here you are again, wanting to get information from a person far from this topic. Advice - read those who have professionally researched this topic. You will learn a lot of interesting things. And, at the same time, you will evaluate those who conveyed to you biased, prejudiced, and often simply false information.
                        Quote: Krasnodar
                        Why? You can't fool people who serve in a combat-ready army about military affairs.

                        Well, yes, well, yes. Any soldier sees from his trench how many, how many comrades of a company? Regiment? Division? Army? Yes, what about an army, he sees, knows and understands everything at the Supreme level.

                        lol exposer of historical figures? ))))
                        Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                        It’s as if you yourself are elevated in your own eyes and in the eyes of those who, like you, do not know the essence of the issue.

                        If I praise, say, Lunacharsky, does that belittle me? For example? ))
                        Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                        then you will have to reconsider your attitude towards those events. Believe me.

                        I read many of them, and that's where I came to my conclusions about Stalin. Yes
                        Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                        It was from this day that Stalin received full power in the USSR.

                        laughing that is, his refusal to prepare for the German attack at the end of June was advisory. Got it. They were not obliged to listen to him. ))
                        Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                        All decisions of the SVGK were made collegially.

                        When he came down to earth, then yes
                        Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                        Advice: read those who have professionally researched this topic.

                        So were there any prisoners or not?
                        Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                        Any soldier can see from his trench how many, how many company comrades?

                        Any soldier understands that in war the most important thing is logistics, i.e. organization, monitoring of the battlefield and interaction of the branches of the armed forces, and not parades and individual examples of miracle weapons.
                      6. 0
                        9 June 2025 14: 39
                        Quote: Krasnodar

                        In the performance of management functions that the people delegated to her

                        Well, my God, what are management functions? And for what purpose did the people delegate these functions to the authorities? Krasnodar, don't be stupid
                        Quote: Krasnodar

                        I was 14 years old when the Union collapsed, but adults were afraid to tell jokes about Brezhnev outside the kitchen

                        And I'm 40. And at work we would tell jokes before the planning meeting on any topic, Brezhnev and Khrushchev got it, and we discussed articles in Ogonyok, AiF and other trashy publications.
                        You were 14, how did you know about the fear of telling jokes about leaders? Did your mom and dad advise you? And when Brezhnev died, how old were you? And did your mom and dad warn you even then? You sing false songs from someone else's voice.
                        Quote: Krasnodar
                        You call me a mob

                        People without honor, conscience, ethical, moral, legal restrictions in their life activities
                        .
                        Quote: Krasnodar

                        A parallel to the demos is, say, the kulaks destroyed by Stalin, that is, the hard-working peasants who owned land.

                        1 Wikipedia is a real source of knowledge, created for the illiterate to correct their consciousness.
                        2. Why did the peasants call the kulak a bloodsucker?
                        Think about it. People are always precise in assigning nicknames.
                        Quote: Krasnodar

                        If I praise, say, Lunacharsky, does that belittle me? For example? ))

                        Do you know everything about him? He was a controversial figure. From the standpoint of Russian culture, art, language, literature, he was quite the figure.
                        Quote: Krasnodar
                        I read many,

                        So list at least a couple of authors.
                        Quote: Krasnodar
                        When he came down to earth, then yes

                        And did you travel with him in the "heavens", or were you only there when he descended? laughing
                        Quote: Krasnodar
                        So were there any prisoners or not?

                        Of course there were. Crucify Putin, because many of our prisoners were captured by the Outskirts and there are still some left.
                        Quote: Krasnodar

                        Any soldier understands that in war the most important thing is logistics, i.e. organization, monitoring of the battlefield and

                        And did any soldier think about this before the war? You are a smart guy. Did you even serve? If you did, what did you think about? About logistics, monitoring, etc. Unfamiliar to you? wassat
                        I'm sorry, but you're boring me. You and I have different amounts of knowledge and life experience.
                      7. 0
                        9 June 2025 15: 42
                        Quote: Krasnoyarsk

                        Well, my God, what are management functions? And for what purpose did the people delegate these functions to the authorities? Krasnodar, don't be stupid

                        I'm not interested in going to an amusement park with my child. I delegate my powers to a nanny, whom I pay money for this.
                        I am not interested in managing ministries and departments; I choose a president who lives off my taxes and who guarantees me the legality of the work of these institutions. ))
                        Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                        At work we would tell jokes before the planning meeting on any topic, Brezhnev and Khrushchev also got it, and we would discuss articles in Ogonyok, AiF and other trashy publications.

                        AIF is already perestroika
                        Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                        You were 14, how did you know about the fear of telling jokes about leaders? Did your mom and dad advise you to do it?

                        No, our Soviet children snitched on me in the 4th grade for retelling anti-Soviet jokes))
                        The parents were called, the head teacher came to sort things out, etc.
                        Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                        People without honor, conscience, ethical, moral, legal restrictions in their life activities

                        That is, the party apparatus of the CPSU laughing
                        Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                        Wikipedia is a real source of knowledge, created for the illiterate to correct their consciousness.

                        More like basic education lol
                        Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                        Why did peasants call the kulak a bloodsucker?
                        Think about it. People are always precise in assigning nicknames.

                        He didn't forgive debts and forced people to work. What a bad guy. laughing
                        Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                        Do you know everything about him? He was a controversial figure.

                        Yes, I just gave it as an example))
                        As with Stalin before, by the way, the conversation was not about this ghoul, but about the current government. Well, let's say I admire not Lunacharsky, but George Washington - does that somehow belittle me, if disgust from Stalin somehow elevates, well, in my own eyes ;)?
                        Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                        So list at least a couple of authors.

                        Hastings, Beaver, Overy, Radzinsky, Volkogonov, Medinsky, Shearer...continue? ))
                        Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                        traveled with him in the "heavens"

                        When he realized he had screwed up Yes Yes

                        Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                        Did any soldier think about this before the war?

                        This is something they think about after the first big exercises laughing

                        Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                        Have you ever served yourself?

                        Three years of conscription, 11 years of reserve, a month annually, and combat operations out of turn - South Lebanon, Gaza
                        Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                        If you served, what were you thinking about?

                        About demobilization Yes

                        Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                        About logistics, monitoring, etc.

                        The unit has drivers, storekeepers and cooks. Of course, I thought about logistics and knew something about it. laughing
                        Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                        monitoring

                        Naturally )))
                        You should know from where you are being attacked or could be attacked/are they preparing to attack.
                        We missed it once and got 1200 corpses in one day
                        As an example Yes
                        Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                        Unfamiliar to you?

                        I know this
                        Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                        but you bore me.

                        Just not that crying
                        Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                        You and I have different amounts of knowledge and life experience.

                        Exactly good
          2. 0
            8 June 2025 17: 35
            This Tsar will not appear until he is of little use to anyone. Such a Tsar will have to be suffered for, alas.
        5. +13
          8 June 2025 10: 25
          Without adequate leadership, all these people will quickly be used in car and motorcycle attacks on fortified strongholds. Perhaps if the boyars' sons were assault infantry, the situation would be different. But they live in London and Brussels, they simply do not have time for this.
          1. 0
            8 June 2025 10: 56
            Quote: overland
            Perhaps if the sons of the boyars were assault infantry,

            This is how it should be
            All of this is all of this
            At all
          2. +1
            8 June 2025 15: 03
            Quote: overland
            Perhaps if the boyars' sons were assault infantry

            I wonder if the boyars' sons really rode in tanks, how quickly would these tanks have an active protection system, and in terms of armor they would have leapfrogged the latest modifications of the Merkava? I think in six months feel
        6. +2
          8 June 2025 11: 20
          Quote: Krasnodar
          The country needs compulsory military service for all boys, for a year and a half

          The country needs to do something about its attitude towards the people. Something about the economy. Otherwise, no service will help against those fleeing through Verkhniy Lars and other deserters.
          1. -2
            8 June 2025 11: 22
            Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
            The country needs to do something about its attitude towards the people. Something about the economy. Otherwise, no service will help against those fleeing through Verkhniy Lars and other deserters.

            Military service as a melting pot of society
            Well, yes - if you want citizens to fulfill their duties, give them lots of perks and goodies
        7. +1
          8 June 2025 11: 52
          Are you suggesting to reanimate the fish from the tail? Or is this some kind of subtle irony?
          1. -2
            8 June 2025 12: 13
            Quote: Jager
            Are you suggesting to reanimate the fish from the tail? Or is this some kind of subtle irony?

            If you resuscitate, then from the heart laughing
        8. +1
          9 June 2025 15: 53
          An army of rams led by a lion is stronger than an army of lions led by rams.
          Even if everyone there serves in the army, but as long as there is “concern”, “the last red line”, “we haven’t started yet” from above, it’s all useless.
          1. 0
            9 June 2025 16: 19
            Quote: Sergey Zhikharev
            concern", "the last red line", "we haven't started yet" - all to no avail.

            Everything is a derivative of three factors:
            1. Ability
            2. Expediency
            3. Actually, the final goal, as you see it
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      3. -1
        8 June 2025 15: 00
        Quote: ROSS 42
        A German with a striking resemblance to a cartoon villain is manipulating Russia with his Tauruses...

        but these Tauruses are probably lying around somewhere, and if some guy from Mariupol rents a workshop in Bavaria and churns out drones in a truck there, then no one will stop him on the way and no one will catch him in the EU. But we are not like that, we want the children of our rulers to live peacefully abroad, because after everything their parents did in Russia, they can't sleep well here
      4. +1
        8 June 2025 18: 56
        It's just that we have the greatest head-k****ld at the head of our country, ready to gobble up and gobble up and gobble up foul-smelling substances, but not with his own mouth, but with the mouth of the Russian people. Only the Russian people, all other peoples of Russia are in a privileged position. The situation is unique in history, and unfortunately threatens us with complete screw-up.
      5. +1
        9 June 2025 01: 59
        Quote: ROSS 42
        Look, there are three sponsors who are ardent Russophobes: Britain, France and Germany.

        It's just that Russians need to post their own attitudes toward British and American propaganda resources. The British are stubborn, while the American, German, and French structures simply freak out and go into hysterics when they find a smart but hostile comment on their pages.
    3. -4
      8 June 2025 06: 46
      BEWARE! tsipso is joining the comments and shitting, shitting, shitting...
      1. +6
        8 June 2025 07: 34
        Quote: Brondulyak
        tsipso joins the comments and shits, shits, shits...

        Tea, we do not work for the CIPSO and not for the check marks from the management. It is time not to be ashamed of our own thoughts. If necessary - correct them accordingly.
      2. +13
        8 June 2025 09: 33
        Quote: Brondulyak
        BEWARE! tsipso is joining the comments and shitting, shitting, shitting...

        We are not so stupid that without CIPSO we cannot figure out where our advantages and disadvantages are. Our disadvantages are in our management.
      3. 0
        9 June 2025 02: 03
        Quote: Brondulyak
        cipso is settling in

        Tsipso are ordinary people, often women who just want to work in warmth and comfort. It is quite possible that in their second job they simply write instructions in Russian for Chinese products for Russian companies.
    4. +20
      8 June 2025 06: 55
      ...If you allow your rulers, their officials and their servants to wipe their feet on you, then do not expect respect from the inhabitants of other states...


      Important note.
      The ruling Russian elite does not have much respect for their fellow citizens.

      Inside the country, all the media outlets are saying that the Russian Federation is at war with the West, but at the same time, supplies of fertilizers, oil, gas, etc. to countries that support terrorism are not stopped for a moment.
      It is not the elite that perishes, it is the people.
      1. +5
        8 June 2025 07: 17
        If only it were the "ruling" elite... It happens that an ordinary traffic policeman, dressed in a police uniform, begins to consider himself a kind of celestial being...
      2. +6
        8 June 2025 10: 15
        Well, the elite is not entirely Russian, if you pay attention to the last names.
        Moreover, this elite does not perceive the country as a homeland.
        That's where all the problems come from.
      3. +8
        8 June 2025 10: 41
        Quote: AA17
        The Russian Federation is at war with the West, but at the same time, supplies of fertilizers, oil, gas, etc. to countries that support terrorism do not stop for a moment.

        What do you suggest they do?
        Their industry, whole sectors were destroyed on orders from the West. Chubais openly said that privatization was a political decision to hammer a nail into the coffin of communism. Now where are they going to put their resources? And they want to eat, and the electorate is already looking askance - inflation has gone into space.
        Build factories? There is no one left to work there, the continuity of workers' specialties was buried alive along with communism. wink
        1. +3
          8 June 2025 11: 30
          Quote: Sovetskiy
          Build factories?

          And what factories? And who should we sell our products to in the conditions of sanctions and fierce competition on foreign markets? And our own market, although not small, is not so rich and large. We have enough of our own saucepans everywhere, and with science and implementation of developments, everything is really bad here.
          1. +1
            8 June 2025 11: 44
            Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
            And who should sell the products to under sanctions?

            Under a planned economy, there was even a shortage of consumer goods despite the presence of a powerful industry and the friendly CMEA bloc, and citizens' incomes play a major role in the long-term absence of inflation, but...
            You can’t fill the budget with a long speculative chain of collecting VAT from each transaction of reselling the same product, and that’s sad.
            The second oil must generate income. wink
            1. -2
              9 June 2025 02: 04
              Quote: Sovetskiy
              somehow there was even a shortage of consumer goods despite the presence of a powerful industry and the friendly CMEA bloc

              If meat had cost 5 rubles in the USSR, there would have been no shortage and the villages would not have become depopulated.
              1. 0
                9 June 2025 06: 31
                Quote: gsev
                If meat had cost 5 rubles in the USSR, there would have been no shortage and the villages would not have become depopulated.

                Khrushchev tried to follow your advice, and a riot occurred in Novocherkassk. wink
                If meat were five rubles, then inflation would be those five rubles, and in the USSR, as is well known, prices fell due to increased production volumes, the fight against speculation, and the presence of private farms even in cities.
    5. -5
      8 June 2025 07: 58
      The essence of Russian civilization is Bolshevism.

      Quote: Monster_Fat
      1) Before someone else should treat you with respect, you must first respect yourself.
      2) If you allow your rulers, their officials and their servants to wipe their feet on you, then do not expect respect from the inhabitants of other countries.

      It's amazing how two mutually exclusive thoughts can fit into one head.

      In the first sentence - respect your country and then others will respect it.
      In the second - do not respect this power, which represents this country.
      This is political schizophrenia!
      1. +12
        8 June 2025 08: 48
        Quote: Boris55
        This is political schizophrenia!

        I agree.. You monarchists just can't understand this.. How is it that "All power comes from God", "The Tsar is good, but everyone around him is an enemy, even those he appoints"?
        Quote: Boris55
        In the first sentence - respect your country and then others will respect it.
        In the second - do not respect this power, which represents this country.

        So in 1917, schizophrenics also took power, in your opinion? They didn't respect the Tsar at all...
        1. -4
          8 June 2025 08: 58
          The essence of Russian civilization is Bolshevism.

          Quote: Level 2 Advisor
          "All power comes from God"

          Any power comes from the people.

          Quote: Level 2 Advisor
          "The king is good, but everyone around him is an enemy, even those he appoints"?

          Are the boyars good?

          Quote: Level 2 Advisor
          in 1917, schizophrenics also took power

          In February or in October?

          Quote: Level 2 Advisor
          They didn't respect the Tsar at all...

          What was it for?
        2. 0
          8 June 2025 10: 59
          Quote: Level 2 Advisor
          "The king is good, but everyone around him is an enemy, even those he appoints"?

          The king is good - if he had to shoot without exception the People's Commissars appointed by him? Or if he shoots himself, then he is no longer a shield?
        3. 0
          9 June 2025 14: 50
          But the current government respects Nicholas the Bloody very much.
      2. +9
        8 June 2025 09: 43
        Quote: Boris55


        In the first sentence - respect your country and then others will respect it.
        In the second - do not respect this power, which personifies this country.

        And what is a country? Is it the government or the people living on a certain territory?
        How can one respect a government that destroys, willingly or unwillingly, its own people?
        You will say: “the people elected this government,” and in response you will hear Homeric laughter.
        1. Through manipulation, they “legalized” the extension of the terms of this government.
        2. Real alternative candidates for power were purged in advance.
        That's all there is to it: elections without choice.
        1. -3
          8 June 2025 10: 05
          The essence of Russian civilization is Bolshevism.

          Quote: Krasnoyarsk
          And what is a country? It is power. or people living in a certain territory?

          Homeland is the place where we were born.
          The state is the power that we have chosen.
          The country is the Motherland and the state taken together and inseparable from each other. To oppose one to the other is the path to destruction: the Country, the State, the Motherland. None or!

          Quote: Krasnoyarsk
          "the people elected this government," and in response you will hear Homeric laughter.

          The overwhelming majority of citizens go to the polls. It is stupid to deny it. What do they do at the polls? They elect the government. You can continue to laugh, but it is true.

          We and only we will legitimize this power!
          If your candidate is not on the list, there is no need to vote for just anyone!

          How the administratively illiterate consciousness of the people is manipulated is another question, not included in the topic of discussion.
          1. +5
            8 June 2025 10: 22
            Quote: Boris55
            Country is the Motherland and the State taken together and inseparable from each other. To oppose one to the other is the path to destruction: the Country, the State, the Motherland.

            and yet - who were the revolutionaries then, Boris? wreckers and destroyers? They dared to go against the authorities...
            Quote: Boris55
            The overwhelming majority of citizens go to the polls. It is stupid to deny this.

            the average turnout is about 50%, this is not an overwhelming majority.. only in 2024 was it 70% (of which officially 70% are for VVP, i.e. from the population, taking into account those who did not come and those who are not for him, as a result, about half the country voted for VVP, no more (and at the same time we assume the fairness of the elections), and so in the country - no more than half, or even a third in the regions go to different elections...
            Quote: Boris55
            If your candidate is not on the list, there is no need to vote for just anyone!

            only first a threshold for turnout then needs to be introduced for the sake of honesty, at least... and return against everyone... and so - that's why many don't go...
            1. -5
              8 June 2025 10: 33
              The essence of Russian civilization is Bolshevism.

              Quote: Level 2 Advisor
              who were the revolutionaries then

              I understand. It's easier to ask questions than to answer them.

              Let me repeat. We had two revolutions in 1917 - February and October. Which one are you asking about?

              Regarding voter turnout - whatever it was, it was there. The government has been legitimized. There was a case in the Far East - people did not come to the elections and the candidate was replaced.

              Quote: Level 2 Advisor
              only first a threshold for turnout then needs to be introduced for the sake of honesty, at least... and return against everyone..

              This question is addressed to Medvedev and his Duma. Changing laws and adopting new ones is within their competence.
              1. +3
                8 June 2025 10: 42
                Quote: Boris55
                We had two revolutions in 1917 - February and October. Which one are you asking about?
                and without the February War - there would have been an October War - for sure? Besides, did the Bolsheviks participate in the February War? They participated... so who are they? Okay, let's talk about the October War... The Provisional Government - whether you like it or not - was the state power at that time... good or bad, but it was the state power... or if Boris doesn't like the government - is that okay?
                Quote: Boris55
                This question is addressed to Medvedev and his Duma. Changing laws and adopting new ones is within their competence.

                and the Presidential Administration can introduce laws to the State Duma... they need to be introduced, they will vote against and their essence will become visible to everyone - what could be simpler?
                Quote: Boris55
                There was a case in the Far East - people did not come to the elections and the candidate was changed.

                I haven't heard of this.. can you share more details?
                1. -4
                  8 June 2025 11: 04
                  The essence of Russian civilization is Bolshevism.

                  Quote: Level 2 Advisor
                  Whether you like it or not, it was state power at that moment... good or bad, but state power...

                  Chairman of that Duma Tsiritelii: ~ "Everything is lost. Russia no longer exists and there is no one to save it!" Before they were led... And only the Bolshevik Lenin said: "There is such a party!" and only they (the Bolsheviks) then saved Russia from destruction. At the end of the summer of 1917, in fact, there was no longer any power.

                  Quote: Level 2 Advisor
                  and the Presidential Administration can introduce laws to the State Duma.

                  Not the administration. The right of legislative initiative is vested in the president, just like the 450 deputies of the Duma. Why introduce a bill knowing in advance that it will not pass and will be shelved?

                  Quote: Level 2 Advisor
                  I haven't heard of this.. can you share more details?

                  It was a long time ago. I don't even remember the details. And the information passed quickly and was erased.

                  ps
                  In 1993, the confrontation between the president and the parliament ended with a tank shooting at the White House. The next confrontation will lead to the destruction of Russia. The president is not only the guarantor of the Constitution, but is also responsible for the preservation of Russia.
          2. 0
            8 June 2025 11: 19
            Quote: Boris55
            The state is the power that we have chosen.
            Not "we chose", but "they gave it to us".
            Quote: Boris55
            If your candidate is not on the list, there is no need to vote for just anyone!
            Don't worry: the necessary results will be drawn without you. Now that electronic voting has appeared, you don't even have to bother with ballots.
            1. -3
              8 June 2025 11: 31
              The essence of Russian civilization is Bolshevism.

              Quote: bk0010
              Not "we chose", but "they gave it to us".

              They put it to us and we voted unanimously, i.e. legitimized it. And after that you will still claim that it was not us who elected this government? laughing

              The elections are not the topic of today's discussion.

              Bye everyone. Thanks for chatting. hi
              1. +1
                8 June 2025 13: 30
                Quote: Boris55
                And after this you will still claim that it was not we who chose this government? laughing
                That is how
                Quote: Boris55
                Bye everyone. Thanks for chatting. hi
                Chao
          3. -1
            8 June 2025 16: 19
            Quote: Boris55
            The state is the power that we have chosen

            No, the state is territory, people and power.
            I could tell you what a Motherland, a state, a country, a fatherland is, but this is not a topic for discussion.
            You didn't pay attention to why I asked the question this way -
            Quote: Krasnoyarsk
            And what is a country? Is it the government or the people living on a certain territory?

            That is why you have such an unjustified reaction.
            Quote: Boris55

            The overwhelming majority of citizens go to the polls. It is stupid to deny this. What do they do at the polls? They elect the government.

            No, they legitimize someone else's choice. Learn to look the truth in the eye. A group of people who decided that Ivanov should become president nominate him as a candidate, and in order for him to be elected, they nominate obviously unwinnable figures as candidates, and the more of these figures, the more likely it is that we, the people, will elect Ivanov. After all, if there were only two candidates, would this "group of people" be confident that Ivanov would pass? No! That is why the government took care of this in advance, and many parties, so that there would be many candidates (who are obviously unwinnable).
            What is power needed for? To organize the people to achieve a specific goal. And if there are many parties in the state and each has its own goal, then the state as a whole (the government) has no goal. That's why everything goes haywire
            .
            Quote: Boris55
            We and only we will legitimize this power!

            That's what I wrote to you about. But it would be more correct to write - Мы и only we let's legitimize this power.
        2. -4
          8 June 2025 11: 05
          Quote: Krasnoyarsk
          You will say: “the people elected this government,” and in response you will hear Homeric laughter.
          1. Through manipulation, they “legalized” the extension of the terms of this government.
          2. Real alternative candidates for power were purged in advance.
          That's all there is to it: elections without choice.

          1) A little earlier in our country there were no terms of office in principle - until they carried you on a gun carriage
          2) the people learned about the new head of state after the fact
          3)
          Quote: Krasnoyarsk
          Real alternative candidates for power were purged in advance.
          - Who is this? Who could gather at least 20% of voters? Who should be cleaned?
      3. +3
        8 June 2025 11: 32
        Quote: Boris55
        In the second - do not respect this power, which represents this country.

        Our government represents our government. It does not represent the country at all.
      4. +1
        8 June 2025 11: 55
        "The Russian really doesn't like his country. But he'll beat the crap out of any foreigner who agrees with him." (c)
        1. +1
          8 June 2025 16: 25
          Quote: Jager
          "The Russian really doesn't like his country.

          Not true. Russians love their country very much, they don't like the government.
          Quote: Jager
          "But he will beat the face of any foreigner who agrees with him." (c)

          Because a foreigner is not talking about power, but about the country.
          There is no need to juggle words and concepts.
    6. -1
      8 June 2025 10: 22
      Bravo! Encore! I applaud standing and take my hat off hi
    7. 0
      8 June 2025 17: 35
      Those who "respected themselves" in 1917 were beaten! Only a few remained. And a friend's daughter, the notorious "Ksyusha", called us "biotrash", although she herself wanted to become the president of those masses!!!
  4. +7
    8 June 2025 04: 43
    Serbia's military factories are working in three shifts. They produce equipment and ammunition
    Just recently, a Serbian-made self-propelled gun was sent to Bandera along with its crew. So, our "friends" supply the pig-faces with more than just ammunition
    1. +1
      8 June 2025 17: 12
      In fact, Dodik is the President not of the Republic of Serbia, but of the Republic of Srpska within BiH. And it is stupid to reproach him for the work of Serbia's military industry.
  5. +3
    8 June 2025 05: 03
    Despite the boundless softness of Russians, despite our traditional forgiveness, in difficult times we become tough and unbending.

    smile And I suddenly have various ideas for the disposal of the fifth column and Budanov's agents from the SBU... candies with plastic explosives, ice picks, novices and other delights of the toolkit of secret workers of the knife and dagger.
    I can't help myself... emotions sometimes go off the scale after another terrorist attack by Budanov's bastards... request
  6. +16
    8 June 2025 05: 06
    "Our allies are the Army and Navy." But Admiral Ushakov thought completely differently. "The people built us ships. The people clothe and feed us. The people, with their feat, gave us military ranks." Much depends on our consciousness. And the West? As they say, you can't wash a black dog white. Everything depends only on us. We wanted to be like them. And they wanted us to be slaves of the West. And we even believed in a prosperous tomorrow with the West. And we were placed at the end of the train. Our consciousness must be returned to the origins of Russian existence. Where commercialism was condemned, where helping one's neighbor was in the very being.
    1. +10
      8 June 2025 06: 00
      Quote: Nikolay Malyugin
      We wanted to be like them.

      No. Economic pirates and sexual perverts?
      We wanted to adopt the best from them, to take what we lacked in our grey life of eternal shortages and queues.
      And our leadership (that which managed to carry out a coup d'etat) wanted to feel like masters of the situation during their lifetime.
      This is what came out of it...
    2. +4
      8 June 2025 07: 14
      ...We wanted to be like them...


      Dear Nikolay.
      You were hasty in using the pronoun We.

      I didn't want to "be like them." And many of my friends didn't either.
      The majority of the Russian elite wanted, and still wants, to be like them.

      "....Statistics
      The last large-scale study on this topic was conducted by the Levada Center in 2016. It turned out that only 28% of Russians, or 40 million people, have foreign passports. Most of the document holders are executives, managers, and people aged 25 to 40 with higher education.
      Muscovites have more foreign passports than the national average - 60%. ..."
      https://tonkosti.ru

      "...At the same time, according to the survey, at the moment 29% of Russians have a foreign passport, only 2% have a Schengen visa. Those who have a foreign passport are citizens aged 35-44 (39%), with higher or incomplete higher education (45%), financially secure (37%), as well as residents of both capitals (52%). Every tenth resident of Moscow or St. Petersburg has a Schengen visa..."
      https://www.rbc.ru/rbcfreenews/63291d6b9a7947822915b052
    3. -2
      8 June 2025 08: 30
      The essence of Russian civilization is Bolshevism.

      Quote: Nikolay Malyugin
      We wanted to be like them.

      Not us - this was what the Trotskyist-Vlasov party nomenklatura wanted, having seized power after Stalin's death. The people voted to preserve the USSR.
    4. 0
      8 June 2025 16: 29
      Quote: Nikolay Malyugin
      We wanted to be like them

      I agree with you on everything except one thing. In the given quote you should write not WE, but I. Then it will be correct.
  7. +6
    8 June 2025 05: 19
    Quote: Nikolay Malyugin
    Our consciousness must be returned to the origins of Russian existence, where commercialism was condemned, where helping one's neighbor was in the very being.

    Some deputies suggest returning to the times of the Golden Horde...what to do about this?
  8. +12
    8 June 2025 05: 44
    C4 can be bought on the black market of weapons. If portable guided missiles are sold new in the package, then the USA is definitely not needed for this.

    As for the BRICS countries, their representatives meet regularly to pose for a group photo. No one expects anything more from them.
  9. GMV
    +11
    8 June 2025 05: 51
    I think Western politicians in principle don't give a damn about any civilian casualties. Even among their own people. Except for those cases when it damages the image of their government and political and economic interests. And their liberal and democratic agenda is just a screen to mask their interests. Interests are what exceed everything! So to confess to enslaving gullible natives and plundering other people's resources under the guise of beautiful ideas. "Assad must go!" .. and "Zelensky can stay as long as it takes... for us!"
  10. +15
    8 June 2025 05: 58
    The author wrote everything correctly. The article is good. Only it is 30 years late. The whole world indifferently and enthusiastically accepted the entry of the thugs into Dagestan, the explosions of houses. The recent explosions of trains are no more tragic than the shootings of unfortunate Gorlovka and glorious Belgorod...

    I agree with Monster Fat that we must respect ourselves first. This is about both the epic mess and the lack of an adequate "response". The "Bastion of Traditional Values" was unable to protect even the classical interests of the people and the state.

    Unfortunately, a people without its elite is doomed.
    1. -7
      8 June 2025 08: 49
      The essence of Russian civilization is Bolshevism.

      Quote: samarin1969
      Unfortunately, a people without its elite is doomed.

      Any other nation, but not Russian.

      After Stalin's death, the Trotskyist-Vlasov party nomenklatura slowly replaced the people's elite (Stalin's cadres) with those alien to the people, dreaming of putting Russia under the knife of the West.... In the 90s, the dreams of the enemies of the people came true...

      But the civilization of Rus did not disappear into the toilet of history. The people, having state understanding in their subconscious, self-organized, survived and brought Putin to power.
      1. +5
        8 June 2025 16: 16
        Quote: Boris55
        The people, who had state understanding in their subconscious, self-organized, survived and brought Putin to power.

        something about bringing VVP to power - the association is not with the people at all, but with EBN.
      2. Des
        0
        8 June 2025 17: 03
        Quote: Boris55
        But the Russian civilization did not disappear into the toilet of history.
        Temperament like "Tatra")). Good luck).
  11. +5
    8 June 2025 06: 04
    Again "plastids"... how many years ago when I was in school, I thought it was something from botany.
  12. +8
    8 June 2025 06: 04
    Quote: samarin1969
    The recent train bombings are no more tragic than the shootings in unfortunate Gorlovka and glorious Belgorod...

    Crocus showed everything...what kind of elite we have.
    I could say a lot of unprintable things about this elite. am ...but alas, this is an article.
  13. +15
    8 June 2025 06: 05
    We have discounts on gas, which by and large make Serbian shells quite cheap to produce, and we... thank you?


    If only Serbia... The Czech Republic gets metal from the Lipetsk plant, practically all of Europe uses our gas in its military industry, although it buys it "illegally". The Ukrainian Armed Forces equipment runs on fuel and lubricants, a significant part of which is obtained from our oil. Business, nothing personal?

    So our super-large business should decide - who is it with? With the guys on the front lines or with its profits?

    And here we are talking about Serbia. We don't see the beam in our own eye.
  14. +10
    8 June 2025 06: 11
    Quote: avia12005
    We don't see the beam in our own eye.

    A log also has its price.
    The profit is such that the bourgeoisie would put a monstrous price tag on their own mother.
  15. fiv
    +7
    8 June 2025 06: 14
    We are doing very well with global thoughts, when we need to cover half the Universe with the power of thought. But how to make a program, how to live better, it all ends at the first point - who are our enemies and who are our friends.
    1. +4
      8 June 2025 06: 29
      Quote: fiv
      It all ends with the first point - who are our enemies and who are our friends.

      So we have the whole world as friends when we receive free perks from Russia... but when they end, the friendship immediately goes down the drain. request
      And only North Korea has proven its friendship through action.
  16. +3
    8 June 2025 06: 55
    The whole pack of hungry hyenas surrounded a still strong elephant and waits for him to be finished off by illness, thirst, and insect bites, so they can get to his body and grab a piece of flesh, pushing and biting each other and proving to each other that I have the right, I've been here for a long time, that the elephant offended me once. And all this in order to start a big war between the hyenas. Or they could live quietly and calmly, looking respectfully at the big and kind animal, which, by and large, does not care about you.
  17. +6
    8 June 2025 07: 07
    Two loyal allies who have saved our country many times are the army and the navy.

    Only the fleet has turned out to be not a very loyal ally these days.
    1. +6
      8 June 2025 07: 45
      Only the fleet has turned out to be not a very loyal ally these days.
      Where Kisel ruled, the army was in bad shape. When loyalty to the Master of the Kremlin pill is the greatest virtue, who cares about incompetence and thievery?
  18. +4
    8 June 2025 07: 13
    Okay, if this happens where these "ubermensch" are... Everything is clear with them... But when does this happen here, in Russia itself?
  19. +7
    8 June 2025 07: 25
    We still haven't learned the lesson: nations are other separate organisms, and that we must be an independent, united organism. Time beats us with lessons, what a painful last one - Belovezhsky, so he believes that we will learn it someday.
  20. +9
    8 June 2025 07: 27
    In recent days, I have had a long-forgotten and therefore strange feeling. As if I am somewhere behind enemy lines, my own are far away, and everything depends on me and my comrades personally. All around are only those who passionately want to find and destroy us, or those who are not looking, but if the opportunity arises, will gladly help us "tear us to rags." Without malice, just for the company of those first.
    But it’s true, we are all on the front lines now.

    "When a person feels like they are in another place, it may be due to depersonalization disorder, derealization disorder, or other mental disorders. This effect may manifest as a short-term condition or as a more long-term disorder that requires professional help.
    The reasons:
    May be associated with stress, trauma, panic attacks, depression or other mental illnesses.
    Treatment:
    Psychotherapy (cognitive behavioral therapy, psychoanalysis), in some cases drug therapy.
    What to do if you or someone you know has similar feelings:
    Contact a specialist:
    If such sensations occur frequently and cause discomfort, you should consult a psychiatrist or psychologist for consultation and diagnosis.
    Use self-help methods:
    Regular exercise, abstinence from alcohol and other psychoactive substances, adequate sleep, and moderate stressful situations can help in overcoming experiences.
    Do not delay treatment:
    Long-term absence of treatment can lead to worsening of the condition and development of more serious problems.
    "

    We are all on the front lines now. Soldiers and civilians, old people, women, children. Even those who are just about to be born. We are being killed, we are being hunted like wild animals. No one anywhere can be calm about their life, their health, the lives of their loved ones and friends. We are being killed daily and hourly.

    "Paranoid personality disorder is a paranoid personality disorder characterized by excessive sensitivity to frustration, suspiciousness, vindictiveness, persistent dissatisfaction with others, and a tendency to take everything personally and interpret any other person's actions as hostile or threatening.
    People with this disorder build an outwardly logical and consistent picture of the world, which has almost nothing in common with reality. Among the emotions of such a person, anger, irritation, indignation, discontent, disappointment prevail. The person treats manifestations of weakness with contempt, admires power and strength, and is prone to developing overvalued ideas.
    A person with paranoid personality disorder suspects that others are planning to exploit, deceive, or harm them. They fear that they may be attacked without cause at any time, even in the absence of evidence and are convinced that they are right. They tend to distort facts and interpret neutral and friendly actions as hostile.
    Treatment of paranoid personality disorder in psychiatry is often carried out using methods of psychoanalytic and cognitive behavioral therapy. The psychotherapist helps a person accept their feelings and develop more effective behavior patterns. For a specialist, the main task is to help the patient understand how to cope with the conflict caused by him, through reassessment and awareness.
    Patients' reliance on denial directly impacts the speed of treatment. This defense mechanism works by categorically refusing to acknowledge anything specific."


    "You probably thought that the author had gone crazy, denying the obvious. Alas, my doctor wife says that I am still in my right mind." (c) Author.
    https://topwar.ru/263155-gromade-planov-genshtaba-vsu-ili-otkaz-ot-mira-cenoj-gosudarstva.html
    1. +11
      8 June 2025 08: 27
      Well, yes, yes.
      However, if all this is wrapped in a patriotic or religious wrapper, then the patient is no longer a patient, but a completely different information warrior.
    2. +4
      8 June 2025 10: 13
      You probably thought the author had gone crazy, denying the obvious. Alas, my doctor wife says I'm still in my right mind.

      And here comes nepotism :((
  21. +3
    8 June 2025 08: 23
    Hatred towards Russians has always existed in Europe, it was just hidden when they received our oil, gas, metals, timber, fertilizers, grain, etc. for pennies. Therefore, I think it is time to end relations with them, recall embassies, take children and relatives out of there, stop any cooperation and trade, withdraw from all agreements with them... and start to soak them in toilets, as the great one bequeathed)) In any case, it will happen, only time is now playing against us. The sooner we start, the sooner we will win!!
    1. +5
      8 June 2025 09: 12
      You couldn't wipe out pathetic Ukraine in 3+ years, but you want all of Europe?
      1. +2
        8 June 2025 11: 53
        Classic war against the West will not work. Go to Africa, seize their resources and make fair deals with them, cut off the flow of African resources to Europe, and then in a short time they will come to you begging. We also fought Iraq for 8 years and did not take a single meter of land. But we went to Israel with irregular warfare, and now the Palestinian flag is in Washington
        1. 0
          8 June 2025 11: 58
          And the Israeli flag is in Jerusalem.
      2. GMV
        0
        9 June 2025 04: 42
        Quote: Anglorussian
        You couldn't wipe out pathetic Ukraine in 3+ years, but you want all of Europe?

        The only "pathetic" thing in Ukraine is the people. Everything else comes from Western subsidies - weapons, equipment, ammunition, intelligence, military specialists, money, even more money - give and take!
  22. +2
    8 June 2025 08: 49
    Stop panicking!
    Proceed to perform your official duties!
    All around...running
  23. +8
    8 June 2025 08: 54
    For over thirty years, "their" home-grown "elites" in the Russian Federation have been engaged in the objectification of the tax-paying population. Even the sale of children is not considered something out of the ordinary.
  24. +10
    8 June 2025 09: 15
    About explosives that were only developed in the USA, but could be produced anywhere - according to this logic, Russia is the most terrorist country. AK of all modifications is the most popular weapon in the world among automatic weapons among all kinds of fighters
  25. +3
    8 June 2025 09: 18
    What an article from another whiner. Russia has been fighting all its life, no one will let us live in peace! And never has.
  26. +4
    8 June 2025 10: 26
    And our ruling class, more than anyone, doesn’t care about the citizens who died in the terrorist attack...
  27. 0
    8 June 2025 10: 49
    And patience always has its limits.

    One citizen rowing somewhere has limitless patience, making everyone else suffer.
  28. -2
    8 June 2025 11: 21
    It feels like you're in a room full of fascists.

    That's right. Racism in its various manifestations is the basis of European philosophy. What do you want from such education over the past 500 years? All media are controlled from a single supranational center, from the "Deep state". The same DS almost immediately after 1991 escalated the situation and fed neo-Banderism, and purposefully, according to the precepts of Brzezinski, and then unleashed a civil war in Ukraine. Moreover, except for the rabid hatred of Banderovites towards Russians, Ukraine had no grounds for it. The SVO was a logical response to the civil war in Ukraine. Judging by the statements of Biden and Harris even before it began, it was also provoked deliberately. Therefore, Europe will be pumped up with Russophobia to the limit, and not from somewhere, but self-reproducing from the European politically active masses themselves. And this limit will be a general war between Russia and Europe. After all, it is noticeable how the Swedes and Finns, who five or seven years ago cherished their own "non-alignment", in a short time, within half a generation, were convinced otherwise by the same Euro-American media, and their entire population rushed to NATO without any visible tangible reasons (especially the Finns). The US may try to stay on the sidelines, beyond the puddle. In short, Europe today is pursuing the saddest prospect for the world. Unfortunately, any positive forces capable of actively opposing the hawks are not visible in EU policy.
  29. 0
    8 June 2025 11: 26
    And the Russians? They are "biological trash", unworthy of attention. "Trash" that needs to be quickly removed from planet Earth...

    I think we ourselves need to somehow decide what we want.
    If we want to be self-sufficient and independent, then what do we care about other people’s opinions?
    But if we want so much to please everyone at once, then the recipe is very simple - stop the SVO, disband the army, and generally stop our statehood.
    I'm sure all today's critics will like it.
    Only we ourselves will no longer be there
  30. +2
    8 June 2025 11: 47
    Don't be hard on yourself, buddy. You've done a great job already. And with fewer sanctions than you, while we weren't at war, the value of our currency dropped 100-fold. The dollar used to be worth 900 tomans, and now it's approaching 90 tomans. Of course, Putin seems very moderate.
    1. -1
      9 June 2025 02: 19
      Quote: Salimi from iran
      Previously, the dollar was worth 900 tomans, but now it is approaching 90 tomans.

      Iran needs to pay more attention to the development of science and technology and give more freedom to scientific and engineering personnel. The USSR was at the peak of its power under Khrushchev when the power of the NKVD-KGB was curtailed and began to degrade when Shelepin and Andropov froze the USSR. Although under the Shah, moral depravity in Iran was probably greater than in the darkest times of Yeltsin. From the outside, it is very difficult to assess the optimal level of power of the IRGC and similar structures in Iran.
      1. 0
        9 June 2025 13: 55
        Here, wherever the IRGC and the right intervene, everything is fixed, of course, at great expense. During the time of the right ((president)) everything was fine, but there were also many differences. And, of course, the right and the IRGC have great hidden influence, and this is what prevents the overthrow of the country. The big problem in our country is that many young people spend a lot of time in universities just to avoid going to the army, which is the reason for the shortage of personnel in many places.
  31. +2
    8 June 2025 12: 00
    Because the boss has a mouth full of worries. Look, he congratulated the Muz-TV award on its anniversary, this is not that...
  32. +1
    8 June 2025 12: 22
    I do not agree with the author that there are many of us, that we are unbending. We are being rapidly replaced by imports from the villages and auls. And I am already openly demanding that the sharit be above the laws of Russia. And the priest who expressed indignation at this situation is being deprived of his post by a roar from the Caucasus.
    Personally, I am afraid for our children, afraid that because of the greed of the public, who are bringing in millions of village and aul inhabitants, our children may well have to flee the country, escaping the massacre of Islamists.
    Well, the fact that the Russians have always been subhuman for the "big white gentlemen in pith helmets" is an open secret. And it is surprising that for some this has become akin to the discovery of America.
  33. +1
    8 June 2025 12: 25
    Quote from sdivt
    And the Russians? They are "biological trash", unworthy of attention. "Trash" that needs to be quickly removed from planet Earth...

    I think we ourselves need to somehow decide what we want.
    If we want to be self-sufficient and independent, then what do we care about other people’s opinions?
    But if we want so much to please everyone at once, then the recipe is very simple - stop the SVO, disband the army, and generally stop our statehood.
    I'm sure all today's critics will like it.
    Only we ourselves will no longer be there

    Absolutely to the point.
    This passionate desire for the notorious "civilized humanity" to kiss us and condescendingly lower us onto the doormat - this is simply some kind of extreme servility. And, by the way, this has been going on for more than a century.
  34. 0
    8 June 2025 12: 25
    First of all, our management doesn't give a damn.
  35. +1
    8 June 2025 12: 42
    I am generally shocked at how Russian life is devalued, they are really turning it into humus, and they are ripping off taxes to the fullest, and non-Russian life is starting to replace Russian life, and taxes are not paid, and what is produced from the taxes of Russian life will be used by non-Russian lives. European lives create objects to take Russian lives, but try to take European life on European territory with an object made by Russian life. If you analyze all this, you will understand that some lives do not benefit from the self-identity of Russian life. There is a systematic washing out and erosion of Russian life on Russian territory. And the bets have already been made. Watch the commercials on TV carefully, and you will understand when the moment has come.
  36. +2
    8 June 2025 12: 50
    All this is true. Russia and the Russian people themselves have never been so humiliated as by the Putinoids. This "great ruler" has created during his time in power the most useless and parasitic system of governance in the state, where the government is never responsible for anything and allows billions to be spent with impunity on useless projects, crowds of migrants to be brought in, indigenous people to be imprisoned for suspicion of inciting ethnic hatred, and Russian men to be driven into frontal attacks on enemy drones and artillery. And all this is masked by colorful pictures of something that has no analogues against the backdrop of endless price increases on everything and meager wages.
  37. +2
    8 June 2025 12: 59
    "Why does no one care about the Russians killed in terrorist attacks" - what a provocative title for an article? Everyone - meaning both the Russian authorities and the Russians? The author is wrong.
    1. +1
      8 June 2025 13: 32
      The Russian authorities have a purely personal feeling that they don't give a damn about the Russians killed in terrorist attacks. Otherwise, Bankova Street in Kyiv would have already been turned into dust along with its inhabitants. And a gold reward would have been appointed for Zelensky's severed head.
  38. +5
    8 June 2025 14: 25
    Two remarks to the article:
    1. If the people and their fate are indifferent to their own government, why should anyone else in the world be interested in them?
    2. The eradication of the Russian population, Russian civilization has long been going on through creeping Islamization and replacement migration. Already now in Russia there is a freely located (at our expense) occupation army of more than 12 (probably more) million migrants who sincerely despise the Russian World and consider Russia their land. They are just waiting for an order. And no third world war, no nuclear strikes will be required. Having come to power (which is already happening), they will voluntarily sell the remains of the great Russian civilization to anyone for the right to graze sheep in the parks of Peterhof and in the Alexander Garden near the walls of the Kremlin.
    1. 0
      8 June 2025 18: 42
      And all this was created with his own hands by the great and unrivaled strategist Putin. And then we wonder why he doesn't bomb the bridges across the Dnieper?
    2. 0
      9 June 2025 02: 21
      Quote: vadimN
      Already now in Russia an occupation army of more than 12 (probably more) million migrants has settled down comfortably (at our own expense)

      In percentage terms, there are more natives of the North Caucasus in the SVO than Muscovites.
    3. 0
      9 June 2025 13: 32
      Already now in Russia there is a comfortable (at our expense) occupation army of more than 12 (probably more) million migrants who sincerely despise the Russian World and consider Russia their land.

      And how did we all live in the USSR? Russians in Moldova, Uzbeks in Russia. And no one bothered anyone, no one oppressed anyone. And now an Uzbek who came to work on a construction site in Siberia is an evil migrant. Why, because some people, not Russians at all, suddenly became concerned about the fate of Russians. Those who write and express the most indignation are two fugitive Ukrainians. The fugitive deputy from the thieving "Party of Regions" Tsarev and the "planted Cossack", Nazi and provocateur Podolyaka.
      And to what nationality should we attribute the bribe-takers from the FMS and the police, who take bribes and protect "national diasporas", who rob first of all their fellow citizens and provoke hatred towards the Russian authorities. The "national question" is another attempt to split Russia from within.
  39. _6
    +1
    8 June 2025 15: 55
    Until ordinary people start to organize themselves, no one will help us. Neither the government, nor allies, nor natural resources, nor external threats. We must start with ourselves, with our family, with our organization, our district, our city, etc. It is more difficult to restore order, but little by little it is possible.
  40. aba
    +4
    8 June 2025 16: 32
    We should be offended at ourselves, or rather, at our government, which rushes like a prostitute between clients from one country to another in search of support. Even Taliban Afghanistan has been added as a friend. And when the response is a ban on tomatoes.
    Everyone sees that everyone has abandoned the lion, he is sick, so why not kick him, especially since the lion himself does not intend to be treated and will probably die soon...
    1. 0
      9 June 2025 02: 25
      Quote: aba
      Even Taliban Afghanistan was added as a friend.

      The Taliban have built a very successful and resilient state. Unlike Russia and the US, alcoholism and opiate and synthetic drug addiction have been eradicated there. Afghanistan will soon solve the problem of marijuana addiction. In about 100 years, the US elite will not be Anglo-Saxons, but Chinese, Koreans, Indians and Muslims, including Pashtuns and Tajiks.
  41. +3
    8 June 2025 17: 15
    It is shameful for a political journalist not to know that Serbia and the Republic of Srpska are not the same thing.
    1. -1
      9 June 2025 02: 27
      Quote: Sergej1972
      It is shameful for a political journalist not to know that Serbia and the Republic of Srpska are not the same thing.

      The FRG and the GDR were not the same either, but they became a single state. Let's wish the Serbs to gather the Serbian lands and people into a single state, as Russia did by returning Crimea, the Azov region and the Donbass, which was taken from it by the swindlers in Belovezhskaya Pushcha.
  42. +2
    8 June 2025 18: 39
    ...I am amazed by the intelligence of the Russian Emperor Alexander III in his definition of Russia's allies. Two loyal allies who have saved our country many times - the army and the navy...

    ____ Wow!
    What if you use your brain?
    Was it not representatives of these two allies who supported the Bolshevik revolution in 1917?
    But the author of these words could have been in the place of Nicholas II -> Alexander III ...
    Then, wasn’t it the Army that supported Yeltsin in October 1993?
    Or is this not, - not that?
  43. 0
    8 June 2025 18: 41
    “Russians, not by nationality, but by spirit, are not pitied” - and why not by nationality? How many other nations died in these terrorist attacks? I suspect zero. Then why the eternal howl of the security forces about the fact that Russian is not a nationality but a state of mind? You (the security forces and other mini-Russophobes who sympathize with them, yes, yes - denying the existence of the Russian nation over and over again under any pretext is Russophobia), will lead our country and people to destruction much earlier than external enemies. You are the true enemy.
    You are the ones who, under the pretext of a program to resettle compatriots, bring in a million or so Tajiks, and you are the ones who cover for them, and you are the ones who shamefully look down when others talk about this.
    1. 0
      9 June 2025 02: 31
      Quote from: newtc7
      You are the ones who, under the pretext of the program for the resettlement of compatriots, bring in a million or so Tajiks

      Many laws under Yeltsin were adopted on the orders of the CIA. It is very difficult to get rid of this legacy. How much snot the marginal Yabloko party produced when Putin ran and was elected president for the third time, having received a mandate of confidence from the majority.
      1. 0
        9 June 2025 10: 44
        Are you serious? What kind of legacy did Yeltsin leave behind that after 25 years they still haven't been able to get rid of?
        Seriously speaking, today any law is passed almost in one day, with the snap of a finger.
        1. 0
          9 June 2025 11: 49
          Quote: Voyager-1
          Are you serious? What kind of legacy did Yeltsin leave behind that after 25 years they still haven't been able to get rid of?

          Both Russia and Kazakhstan have introduced draconian laws for ignoring idiotic safety requirements. An electrician must wear a helmet when he climbs into a cabinet, which interferes with his work and increases the risk of being under voltage and damaging equipment worth millions. For removing it, the fine is from 50 rubles in Kazakhstan to 000 rubles in Russia. At one time, it was the unreasonably high fines that caused the first strike in Tsarist Russia at the Morozov factory. Ultimately, this led to the revolution, civil war, the death of the royal family, the expulsion or repression of all prominent landowners, capitalists and priests in Russia. It seems that history is repeating itself for the second time. There is also an aggravation of Yeltsin's dark past in the practice of state-owned companies.
  44. 0
    8 June 2025 23: 48
    Why look abroad, even to the nearest ones, if here in our country no one gives a damn about anyone. Moreover, the higher up the social and property ladder, the higher the degree of this indifference.
  45. +3
    9 June 2025 02: 20
    As political scientist Mikheev said - a mess!!! Until we destroy the fifth column, this will continue indefinitely. The "white people" solve this issue very harshly and only we do it democratically.
  46. +1
    9 June 2025 13: 20
    It's their job to die for civilians. Here we are dying.

    I really want to clarify with Mr. Staver where he wrote this article from. From the front line? Or not.
  47. 0
    9 June 2025 14: 52
    I agree with the author, in recent decades we have become too carried away with condolences to others' grief and helping the weak. Whenever a terrorist attack occurs somewhere, lines of condolences form near embassies. In the modern world, there are no friends.
  48. 0
    9 June 2025 19: 53
    Steal the chalk and cure your megalomania. And by and large, no one cares about any people who died in a similar situation. They just use it as an excuse.
  49. 0
    9 June 2025 19: 56
    ...Once every hundred years, rushing to the east,
    And got hit in the face,
    The European again, before the deadline, -
    Quiet, obedient and lazy.
    And there's anger lurking inside
    From ancient times to this day.
    Insatiable womb
    Filibuster cradle...
    But as soon as the Fuhrer stands up,
    Bark: “- Attention! Step march!..
    I allow everything de jure!!!”
    The minced meat will rush to the east again.
    Again death, death, death...
    Robberies, shootings, stench...
    Funeral in an envelope -
    Queue at the gates of heaven...
    Only Russians and Buryats,
    Vepsam, Ingush, Tyva,
    And two hundred other guys -
    What a feather on the leg...
    Under the wing of dear Russia,
    In the vastness of light-earth
    They all absorbed the power
    Those who saved the Motherland.
    And, when by Russian will
    The Ubermaidens will crawl away,
    The West will howl: “Achtung, Fraulein,
    These Russians are coming!
    They creak as they wear away their teeth,
    And - back to my hole,
    To elderly Europe -
    A lonely hole.
    And cheerful soldiers,
    With and without epicanthus,
    Europe will be read again
    Political educational program.
    Because, of course,
    And our Russian people
    All Europe is offended
    Everywhere he calls us Russians...