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Don't cry for him while he's alive.

Yes, on Sunday we were dealt a pretty good slap in the face, and many world media outlets that write about the military devoted space to this on their pages.

"Key points - recent blow drones Ukraine's Operation Spider Web, which reportedly destroyed or damaged several Russian Tu-95 Bear strategic bombers deep inside Russian territory, represents a significant and potentially irreparable loss to the country's long-range aviation Moscow"

And so on and so forth: Soviet-era aircraft that first took to the air in 1952, widely used to launch winged missiles against Ukraine, cannot be easily replaced because their production ceased several decades ago.



That's right. Indeed, production of the Tu-95 at Plant No. 18 in Kuibyshev (the city changed its name to Samara, and the plant was renamed a dozen times) has ceased, and there is no doubt that it can be resumed. And the loss of even four such aircraft would seem to greatly weaken Russia's nuclear triad.


Nuclear triad. A very loud term that implies that a country has three components of nuclear deterrence forces: land, sea and air. Intercontinental ballistic missiles of land and sea (submarine) basing and cruise missiles with nuclear warheads of air basing.

However, submarines today can also easily and effortlessly carry cruise missiles on board and launch them as needed.

Only the USA, Russia and China have full-fledged (in fact, not) nuclear triads. But even with a huge dose of optimism, these triads cannot be called full-fledged.

Simple question: who is the main carrier of nuclear weapons? weapons by air for these countries? The US has the B-52, Russia has the Tu-95, China has the Tu-16/H-6. What do all these planes have in common? Their age. These are not outdated machines, they are ancient. The B-52 was made in 1952, the Tu-16 was made in 1952, the Tu-95 is younger - 1956. Yes, they have all gone through a series of upgrades, they are very different inside from the planes that were 70 years ago, but... In essence, these are ancient planes with more or less modern weapons.

And one more thing: all three countries are in no hurry to replace these veterans. The Americans' B-21 will destroy a bunch of billions more, and even if it does fly, it won't be anytime soon and it's not a fact that it will be a decent amount. The Chinese H-20 has been tinkered with for 20-25 years now and so far there are no particular results, and our PAK DA has been practically turned into PAK NET by Putin's decision, because it hasn't left the drawing stage, even though 16 years have passed.

Why is that? Has everyone suddenly forgotten how to build airplanes?


I think they haven't forgotten how, but they do understand the specifics of their use. And we won't take China with its terrifying number of Tu-16s, their use is a separate topic, with the B-52 everything is also simple: the extensive network of US bases and airfields on NATO territory makes it possible to reach any corner of the globe. Well, or almost any.

But we are interested in the usefulness of the Tu-95...


Let's start with the armament. It will be simpler. The main weapon of the Tu-95 is cruise missiles.


The Kh-55/555 is a missile capable of traveling up to 3 km at a speed of 500 km/h. The warhead weight is 800 kg. It can carry a nuclear warhead. It can fly at extremely low altitudes while following the terrain. It is intended for use against stationary ground targets with pre-determined coordinates.


X-101/102. This product is capable of flying from 2 to 800 km at a speed of about 5 km/h (its maximum is higher, up to 500 km/h, but also not supersonic) and carrying a warhead weighing the same 700 kg. Or (in the X-1 version) a nuclear warhead.

That is, if you calculate, these missiles will cover their distance of 3 km in 000 hours. 4,5 km in the case of the Kh-5 is almost 500 hours. But the missiles still need to be delivered to this distance. For example, to the Pacific Ocean or at least to the Aleutian Islands.

Why there? It's simple. No one will let the "Bears" fly through the Arctic or Europe. No, if we are talking about planting a cruise missile on a target in Europe - no problem at all, it can be launched from Klintsy and it will fly to London. If it reaches, of course, and the missile will not reach, because Europe is full of modern and effective air defense systems. So the West is closed.

Let's forget about Europe, there's nothing to catch there.

North. It's about the same in the North: they'll let you take off, but nothing more. To fly over the Arctic Ocean to the US launch area, you'll have to cover many hundreds of kilometers. But the 95s won't be allowed to cover them, they'll just shoot them down. There's a great airfield in Kirkenes, there's a US airbase in Rovaniemi, and all of this is half an hour away for both the F-15 and the F-16. And don't forget that the Scandinavians are NATO now. With all that that entails. And they'll be "guarding" the airfield in Olenya very diligently.

South. Well, there's nothing for us to do in the south, you understand, there are no allies there who could bring a tanker with fuel, so...

The East remains. The following scheme is obtained: the Tu-95s must take off from an airfield in the Amur Region and either fly over their own territory to Kamchatka, from where they will try to reach the enemy's territory, or fly over the Pacific Ocean in the direction of North America.


We immediately reject the second option, because they will intercept. That is why the US has 5 aircraft carriers in the Pacific Ocean in theory. In practice, there may be fewer, but one is enough. A floating airfield, extended several thousand kilometers into the ocean, is a very good shield for the US. There will be no talk of any fighter cover at such distances, so all the "Bears" will fly into the ocean.

Launching from the Kamchatka region is safer, but from the only airfield in the Far East, Tu-95s will be thundering there for 5-6 hours and only the lazy will not track them. And they will wait, as they say, fully armed.


Map-scheme with airfields of strategic aviation of Russia

The main problem with the Tu-95 is that it is huge and slow. It can be seen from space, and its takeoff is detected even by those who don't need it. And its unhurried flight allowed its neighbors to determine the direction of missile strikes and try to counter them.


The second problem is slow missiles. Everything is clear here, either the missile is very fast or flies far. The Kh-555 and Kh-101 fly very far, but their speed is low, which means they can be intercepted by an aircraft or an air defense system. Which was demonstrated in Ukraine.

It is unpleasant to admit, but the Kh-101 and Kh-555 are outdated today. Yes, both missiles were first developed at the Raduga Design Bureau back in the 80s, so there is no need to demand any unearthly characteristics.

It is good, of course, that we have more effective and modern products, but they are somewhat from other families. As for our strategic missiles, in fact, they have only one advantage. They are capable of flying at a very low altitude, following the terrain. But today this is not a panacea at all, there are systems that can easily detect a missile, and there is no doubt that modern OLS will see a heat trace and direct their missile like the Sidewinder to it.

What do we get? We get a very slow plane with slow missiles. And what useful can it do? At all, it can. For example, launch these missiles at an enemy that does not have modern means of detection and Defense. Just like it was in Syria.

Or throw back at a more advanced enemy in the hope that at least something will slip through the air defense. As it was in Ukraine, but judging by how many missiles were shot down, the Ukrainian Air Defense Forces coped with the air defense systems provided by Western countries.

Bad signal: it means they can handle it there too, if necessary.

So, the Tu-95 is useless?


No, I wouldn't say so. It has a very useful property: it is huge and only the radar that is turned off cannot see it. Strange, you might say, where is the logic? Just now these characteristics were among the negative ones...

That's right. In the event of a global conflict, the launch and spreading of all Tu-95s across the map will cause a response: tracking will begin of where each aircraft is flying, determining the probable launch area, after the launch they will track the missiles...

In my opinion, it's a great diversionary maneuver. And under its cover, a pair of submarine missile cruisers will fire a salvo from an area that wasn't under close surveillance.

Otherwise, the Tu-95 is an absolutely outdated aircraft that does not meet modern requirements. So is it worth feeling sorry for it and wringing its hands, demanding immediate punishment for those who allowed the terrorist attacks?

No, of course we must demand punishment. And demote, and imprison, and deprive of everything. And to pity... As one of the representatives of THAT country told me: "I look at them, and my heart skips a beat - what power!"

And what kind of power? None at all. Of course, the videos on Zvezda with these huge irons over the waters of the Atlantic really boost the spirits of pensioners. And the footage of the Tu-95 flying over Nimitz in 2008 delights TV viewers…


It's just that those who consume TV in such quantities don't understand that this is only possible in peacetime. In the event of a military conflict with a country that has a real Air Force and Air Defense, these slow-moving planes in the sky will be shot down about as quickly as Bf-109s shot down TB-1941s in 3.

Let's not talk about aircraft carriers. No, it's very tempting to shoot a drum at the Bush from a distance of 1000 km. Especially since this is practically safe - F/A-18s are not scary at such a distance. But here's the problem - the missiles are designed to hit stationary objects...

Then a fair question arises: is it needed at all?

Yes, but why does it have to be cut up? Let it serve. The Americans used the B-52 in Syria in 2016-18. Against Iraq. We also used it in Syria. What if we clash with the new Syrian or old Afghan authorities? It will come in handy.

Here, of course, it turned out very ugly with the bases, everyone got a wet rag in the face. But let's be mature: there will be no war with the USA. Under no circumstances, for a whole series of reasons. And there will be no global slaughter with NATO, especially in Europe (although Europe should be cleansed of inhumans once again), no matter what the Macrons do.

So this flying propeller anachronism will not work. The Tu-95 has already served as the country's shield without combat use for six decades, so what now... And the fact that our neighbors worked on them - I honestly admit that if they had gone through the bomber regiments with the Su-34, it would have been very noticeable.

And the four 95s... Let them rejoice there, in the West, counting how much they weakened us. In fact, they did not weaken us at all. This plane is not for a modern military conflict. Yes, there must be order in the protection and defense of airfields, surveillance services must observe, pilots must fly, and counterintelligence must not allow such incidents.

The Tu-95 is a beautiful and powerful aircraft in its own way. A symbol of a bygone era, serving with all its might, because the era that came after it is unable to build something newer and more powerful.


But here the question arises: is it necessary? The world is changing. The means of detection and destruction are changing, so much so that it is impossible to keep track. Well, tell someone 10 years ago about drones — they would have laughed. It was a rarity, quite expensive. And now?

Who knows what will happen in another 10 years. Will the B-21 and H-20 become obsolete without ever taking off?

This incident was called the "Russian Pearl Harbor". In the American Pearl Harbor, the Japanese sank five battleships, two irretrievably, three were raised and restored (one after 2 years). These were ships built between 1916 and 1921, not the newest. Of course, the blow was the fleet and the country's image is great, so the US got really worked up and we know how it all ended.

It seems so. First of all, because the damage is more moral, which means that ours will still win. And the Tu-95 will forever remain in the memory of aviation historians as a luxurious machine that served its time (and even more) honestly.
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      1. +2
        4 June 2025 07: 00
        Quote from tsvetahaki
        Fox and grape ...

        The Tu-95 was created for early scenarios of a nuclear missile war in an era when global reconnaissance and precision weapons were not yet developed (in fact, they were absent).
        In any modern military scenario, they are a vulnerable, expensive, and impractical asset – an obvious target for destruction. Even Ukraine, a country with limited reconnaissance and long-range strike capabilities, regularly deals painful blows to Russian strategic aviation.
        At the same time, for example, Ukrainian sabotage units have not yet been able to disable modern (and therefore mobile, more technologically advanced, effective) OTRKs on such a scale - and yet they are much more dangerous and have caused much more damage to the Ukrainian Armed Forces than aircraft carriers of cruise missiles.
        The Tu-95 is like the cruiser Moskva: big, beautiful, but defenseless against modern warfare.
        1. +22
          4 June 2025 07: 04
          Quote: Aristarkh Verkhozin
          The Tu-95 is like the cruiser Moskva: big, beautiful, but defenseless against modern warfare.

          If everything that exists, even the super-modern Armata, is for show - then all that remains is to say that the grapes are sour.
          By and large, it was not the Ukrainians who sank the cruiser Moskva, but their own admirals.
          But not only was no one shot, they weren’t even imprisoned.
          Maybe it's time to bring back the death penalty?
          1. -2
            4 June 2025 07: 13
            Quote: Vladimir-TTT
            By and large, it was not the Ukrainians who sank the cruiser Moskva, but their own admirals.
            But not only was no one shot, they weren’t even imprisoned.

            "Moscow" had no means of detecting low-flying (lower than in 1983) targets. "Moscow" actually had no means of destroying low-flying targets. "Moscow" also demonstrated "phenomenal" (i.e. no) survivability. Of course, they all died long ago... there is no one to ask... But "Moscow" had on board 16 antediluvian "Vulcan" missiles, which are absolutely useless in the current situation. There were no missiles with SBCh on board... But there could have been from 2 to 4. If, say, in 1922 even an ordinary person could not pass off "Aurora" as a "modern" combat ship, with all the desire, then "Moscow" was passed off! Oh, what a beauty, oh, what phallic containers, oh, what a tit in the stern, oh, what antennas, just like "Kruzenshtern's sails"! And how it fires! Well, "aircraft carrier suicide"!
            1. +17
              4 June 2025 07: 59
              Quote: Aristarkh Verkhozin
              "Moskva" had no means of detecting low-flying (lower than in 1983) targets. "Moskva" actually had no means of destroying low-flying targets. "Moskva" also demonstrated "phenomenal" (i.e. no) survivability. Of course, everyone has long since died... there is no one to ask...

              Another "justifier"... It would have been enough to handcuff one of the "Kremlin admirals" to the railing of Moscow - and everything would have appeared right away.
              1. man
                +8
                4 June 2025 08: 31
                Another "justifier"...
                Considering the old Russian custom, we are waiting for the third
                1. +11
                  4 June 2025 12: 22
                  Well, if you told someone about drones 10 years ago, they would have laughed.

                  They've been talking since the mid-00s. They knocked everywhere, explained... but other than "why do we need this children's aircraft modeling club" they didn't get any laughter.
                  1. +6
                    4 June 2025 14: 45
                    "They've been talking since the mid-00s. They've been knocking everywhere, explaining... but other than "why do we need this children's aircraft modeling club?" Such a shame, on a global, planetary level, a slap in the face for all the multi-star generals, but are they really afraid and going into retirement, what an example for the new generation of young officers... or just a conviction - responsibility is equal to "0" - lyu. This blow to the reputation of the "second army in the world" will become a textbook example of miscalculations and negligence, worthy of study in textbooks. They could have simply installed a metal mesh... how could they sleep peacefully at all... in the 4th year of the war???
                  2. +5
                    4 June 2025 17: 43
                    Quote: Civil
                    Well, if you told someone about drones 10 years ago, they would have laughed.

                    They've been talking since the mid-00s. They knocked everywhere, explained... but other than "why do we need this children's aircraft modeling club" they didn't get any laughter.

                    In Donbass, the militia used drones in 2014.
                    Well, what business do our generalissimos have with the combat experience of some ordinary Russian militiamen?
                    Parades are a different matter. Beauty. soldier
                    1. +4
                      4 June 2025 22: 27
                      Ukrainians At the same time and in the same place, 82-mm mortar shells were dropped from drones
              2. +1
                4 June 2025 18: 00
                It would have been enough to handcuff one of the "Kremlin admirals" to the railing of Moscow.
                - the most sensible thoughts...
            2. man
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              4 June 2025 08: 28
              Oh, what a beauty, oh, what phallic containers, oh, what a tit in the stern, oh, what antennas, just like “Kruzenshtern’s sails”!
              It seems like you're speaking from a brothel.
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                4 June 2025 17: 45
                Quote: mann
                Oh, what a beauty, oh, what phallic containers, oh, what a tit in the stern, oh, what antennas, just like “Kruzenshtern’s sails”!
                It seems like you're speaking from a brothel.

                Brothel - admiral's cabin in Moscow. laughing lol
            3. +1
              4 June 2025 19: 36
              Aurora wasn't exactly in great shape when it was built.
            4. +1
              6 June 2025 01: 55
              What, excuse me, "16 antediluvian missiles" did "Moscow" have? Definitely "Vulcans"? laughing Have you got something mixed up? They were never anywhere near cruisers.
              I'll give you a hint, there is such a stone, all missile systems of that time had "stone" names. In my time, the coolest one was on aircraft carriers like "Kyiv", "Minsk", it was called "Bazalt".
              As for survivability, yes, the fire extinguishing system on the cruisers of this project is just awful, of which only one, at that time, had undergone modernization, with a complete replacement of the fire extinguishing system. "Moskva", alas. They wanted to change it, but did not. They decided it was not relevant for now, although it stood at the plant for a long time.
              And yes, in 83 the ships were equipped with systems that allowed them to destroy targets flying below 15 meters, at a close range of 5 meters, even the Vympel was doing this. If everyone has already missed it. And on the Moskva, if my sclerosis does not fail me. They had "Kortik" missiles. Look at their performance characteristics. They should destroy such targets with ease. Although... again, what targets? No one has said whether this "Neptune" existed (a missile, by the way, from the glorious Soviet past, which the Moskva could and should have destroyed from the very beginning).
              1. +3
                6 June 2025 21: 00
                Sclerosis is betraying you - on the "Moscow", according to officialdom, there were "Vulcans" (possibly starters from "Basalts") and there were no "daggers" there, just regular Akashkas.
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                  6 June 2025 22: 59
                  Well, yes... "P-1000 "Vulkan" (URAV Navy index (missiles): 3M70) is a Soviet/Russian anti-ship missile system (ASM). It is a development of the P-500 "Bazalt" system." Exactly, I didn't live to see them. There were "Bazalts", the newest ones, then "Granites".
                  "The P-1000 Vulcan missile was developed as a development of the successful P-500 Bazalt anti-ship missile, which in turn was a development of the P-35 missile. The designers' goal was to create a longer-range missile, while maintaining the same dimensions and weight and the ability to use existing launch complexes and infrastructure for the P-500 without major modernization."
                  Then there was supposed to be a "Wasp" in a set with the AK-630.
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                    8 June 2025 14: 33
                    P-1000 "Vulcan" are installed on all 1164 cruisers.
                    But only 1 of them have standard accelerators...
          2. +25
            4 June 2025 17: 50
            And four 95s... Let them rejoice there, in the West, counting how much they weakened us. In fact, they did not weaken us at all. This plane is not for a modern military conflict.

            Skomorokhov's article is superficial, unprofessional and not far-sighted. And most likely written to order, to "let off steam" and calm the indignant and outraged public from yet another blatant failure of all special services and army command. And this author should not reason and draw conclusions about whether our country and army need TU-95, this is not his competence, but ask questions about how it could happen that for 1.5 years our enemies were preparing this operation on our territory under the noses of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the FSB, which remained in complete ignorance for all this time. Surprisingly, for the SVR and the GRU this also turned out to be a great secret. Do these last two organizations really not have their own agents, our people in the SBU, the leadership of the Banderites? After all, such large-scale operations are prepared not by one or two people, but by several dozen. And information about this should have leaked anyway. Maybe it was from our intelligence officers, but no one bothered to check it and take measures? Questions also remain for the people responsible for organizing the security and protection of such important strategic facilities as strategic aviation airfields. After all, this is not the first enemy attack on such airfields using UAVs. It is enough to recall the airfield in Engels or the airfield near Minsk, where a saboteur freely approached the fence and launched a Mavik UAV with a grenade at our AWACS A50U aircraft, which was also parked there in the open. The video filmed by this UAV shows how defenseless such a huge aircraft looked in front of the insignificant Mavik. It is good that this UAV had a weak explosive charge and the damage was insignificant. But it seems that no lessons were learned then and the appropriate conclusions were not made, if on June 1 trucks with enemy UAVs freely approached and stopped next to our airfields with strategic aircraft near Irkutsk, Olenegorsk, etc. Why have security zones not yet been organized and equipped near such airfields, excluding the use of UAVs due to their range. After all, in Syria we had a positive experience in creating such zones around bases and airfields. In addition to security zones, we would like the air defense at these airfields to be appropriate, and not like it turned out to be in Irkutsk and Olenegorsk, where civilians shot at flying UAVs with guns and threw stones at them. The same measures should be taken at purely civilian airfields and airports. If the Nazis attack our cities and villages with UAVs, killing their civilians, then we should not expect any taboos from them. They are capable of anything. And in the end, we must put an end to complacency, laxity, irresponsibility and just sloppiness in the country. The war is with us, it is already near, and not somewhere far away. This is what we need to write and talk about now and really do something.
            1. +1
              5 June 2025 19: 37
              These are two different thoughts: "The Tu-95 is old" and "where was the FSB looking?" The plane is really old, that's a fact. There are no facts to be found on the other issue. But the fact that the topic has begun to be worked on in a popular style is clearly noticeable.
            2. +7
              5 June 2025 20: 53
              Dear wladimirjankov, in continuation of your comment, briefly and to the point: Russia is being "led" to the domestic situation of 1916.... I think there is no need to go into how it all ended for Russia... The conditions for creating this situation are IDEAL NOW: 1. Russia is a weak oligarchic capitalist state, with elements of state capitalism and attempts to "stick" a "Gagarin smile" to it (capitalism)... 2. A completely DEIDEOLOGIZED society, with representatives of the "fifth column" in all branches of government... 3. The absence of a clearly understandable "national idea". 4. Corruption as a "national sport".... 5. The rapid impoverishment of the country's population... 6. A sharp decline in the general culture of the population and the educational qualification, the flourishing of "nepotism" and bribery. 7. Low executive discipline in all branches of government and administration. 8. 0,7% of the country's population dies in the trenches on the fronts of the North-Eastern Military District, 99,3% of the population lives in an environment of state "whiteness and fluffiness" in peacetime... And the article by Mr. Skomorokhov is an obvious "custom job" to "wipe away the tears and snot of the average person"... Those who "prophesy" about the old "Tu-95" probably are not aware of its use, with new weapons, for it, with the addition of the word "actually".... That's how it is...
            3. 0
              8 June 2025 13: 35
              The idea of ​​creating protected zones is correct. But in many places it comes down to the issue of allocating land for them. Alas.
            4. +1
              8 June 2025 16: 32
              hmm. Skomorokhov has not previously been noted for his love for the Kremlin. Who do you think could have ordered such an article?
              Well, it's in Roman's style to point out the weaknesses of using weapons, but in this case it's true - where is he wrong? Do they have other possible uses?
              And why should there be agents in the SBU right away? Maybe the CIA developed the whole operation? They are the ones who are interested first and foremost. The Ukrainian Armed Forces really don't get any use out of this operation. And the SBU could only select the executors and issue instructions. One or two people could have access and keep secrets.
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                9 June 2025 20: 55
                Foxmara, try to guess three times... It is possible that "this" is not a "custom job", but an attempt to earn a "penny" on the so-called military-political "analysis"... The topic is very "fashionable" and well paid....... The truth is that there are "few" sensible analysts in Russia (there are no educated, competent ones, and with "IQ" - difficulties....) And "to chat" - the desire is "through the roof"... So we "consume" Mr. Skomorokhov...
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        2. +3
          5 June 2025 13: 24
          Operations or systematic combat actions have repeatedly proven that maximum damage to the enemy is inflicted by the coordinated use of disparate forces. Removing some component reduces (diminishes) the damage to the enemy, even if this component is old, slanted, crooked, slow, and ... does not correspond to the imperative of tomorrow at all. Historical disgrace!
    3. +39
      4 June 2025 07: 32
      There is a grain of truth in the author's words, but it is tiny. Yes, today the use of all our strategists for their intended purpose (striking the enemy with nuclear missiles) is complicated and is possible only under certain conditions. But these are primarily huge platforms for launching conventional missiles, you can even arrange carpet bombing like the Americans did (if the enemy allows it). The diversionary maneuver to cover submarines is also funny - the enemy, as they say, "has someone to work with", different people and forces will be used to intercept both, so there will be no diversion.
      The main problem (and the goal, in my opinion) lies in the plane of when and why it was done. If you even look through domestic TG - 10 destroyed or damaged sides on satellites have already been counted, some estimates reach 20 (and we have a little more than a hundred). Accordingly, our authorized men went to negotiations with the mantra "you lost, capitulate or it will be even worse, we can continue such special operations forever", to which it was demonstratively shown - "no, you can't. You can't even protect your strategists, part of the nuclear shield, in your deep rear, you lost 20% in 10 minutes." We, in our most expensive suits and with our chests on a negotiating wheel, were publicly dipped in filth, hit on the nose, reminded that mere wishes, without providing them with real possibilities, do not make us omnipotent... showed that Ukraine, having tens of times fewer resources and possibilities, can cause us great pain, and we will counter them with only tires...
      1. man
        0
        4 June 2025 08: 49
        You can’t even protect your strategists, part of the nuclear shield, in your deep rear, you lost 20% in 10 minutes.” We, in the most expensive suits and with “a wheel for negotiations on our chests, were publicly dipped in sewage, hit on the nose
        In the second article today you were already clearly explained that these strategists are completely useless and even harmful, that they were going to be disposed of, but never got around to it, and then stupid... Ukrainians just did this job for us! They should be rewarded for this, and some... naive commentators are calling for revenge request
        1. AAK
          +9
          4 June 2025 10: 01
          Why scrap them? It is quite possible (though in most cases - not with our industry) to convert all Tu-95MS and MSM into upgraded versions of Tu-142, we are in a complete mess with basic anti-submarine aviation, but here we can still gather enough for 40-50 anti-submarine aircraft...
          1. +2
            5 June 2025 10: 50
            We are in a complete mess with our basic anti-submarine aviation, but here we can still gather enough for 40-50 anti-submarine aircraft...

            And not only that. We also have an enemy called Western Europe. And the 95s are quite capable of launching their missiles when approaching the border of confrontation. And any air defense cannot shoot down 100% of the missiles, even the old type, especially if they fly in a large flock of several 95s, especially if they are hypersonic. While they are not rusty, let them fly, launch missiles at Ukraine, scare NATO. After all, we also need to keep dozens of enemy air defense systems against them. In general, this hardware is losing its effectiveness, but it already exists and it must be used.
        2. +20
          4 June 2025 10: 25
          And they can tell and explain anything to me and to you and to the whole world, but for now these planes on paper are considered the most protected element of the Russian army (SNF), no matter what they are and in what condition, the fact remains a fact. We have no backup plan and no visible reserves. This was shown by Kharkov and Kherson in 2022, and the "orchestra rally", and Kursk and now this attack. In fact, against the backdrop of such a regular media picture, the other side looks like the winning side.
          1. -12
            4 June 2025 16: 30
            Quote: parma
            Now this blow. In fact, against the backdrop of such a regular media picture, it is the other side that appears to be the winning side.

            It doesn't look like it, no matter how much you want it. The other side is in a panic. It dreamed of a month-long truce. For this - It strained so much. It spent so much. It took so many risks and... in vain. What they dreamed of, a month-long truce, they did not get. Evil Putin did not appreciate their "mighty" efforts. At all. He did not even give an answer. He continues his evil deed. He is advancing. The Ukrainian Armed Forces soldiers are running, the generals are running away, and the Russian bear quietly and consistently pushes ahead, as if nothing had happened, no blown up bridges, no shelled airfields. A slap in the face? He scratched his face with his paw and went on, without stopping.
            1. +13
              4 June 2025 16: 48
              In a panic? The Ukrainian Armed Forces abandoned the fight and fled? But alas, no, the Ukrainian Armed Forces infantry is holding the defense to zero in terms of ammo counts for the most part. Understand that the Russian soldiers there are the same as ours, the most stubborn infantry. So the stories about panic and fleeing are somewhat untrue (I hope for now). And you are right, our infantry is moving forward slowly. And there are no blown up Dnieper bridges, the dams are intact and the enemy can drag everything to the front. Well, the article is frankly a harmful excuse for those who have lost their vigilance. A harmful article, alas.
            2. +9
              4 June 2025 17: 01
              Why should I want this? As a citizen of Russia, I don’t need Ukraine’s victory at all. Another question is that we cannot achieve a military victory in today’s reality. Where did you see panic on the Ukrainian side, I absolutely do not understand. Since the summer of 2022, there has not been a single major defeat of the Ukrainian Armed Forces (really major, not called so), there have been no cauldrons or encirclements, the enemy is slowly rolling back from one forest belt to the next. If you take a ruler with a clock and figure out how long it will take us to liberate constitutional territories at the current speed, it turns out that it will not be the PVV that will sign the capitulation, but the receiver, because all the terms permitted by the new constitution will expire…
              1. -3
                4 June 2025 19: 01
                Selidovo, Novogrodovka - not major defeats? Kursk adventure - not major? Now cauldrons and encirclements with modern weapons are impossible. Even Ukrainians In Kherson and Kharkov they couldn't do it. The only cauldron during the whole war was Mariupol. But this is the stupidity of the Ukrainian command.
          2. man
            -5
            4 June 2025 22: 21
            Quote: parma
            And they can tell and explain anything to me and to you and to the whole world, but for now these planes on paper are considered the most protected element of the Russian army (SNF), no matter what they are and in what condition, the fact remains a fact. We have no backup plan and no visible reserves. This was shown by Kharkov and Kherson in 2022, and the "orchestra rally", and Kursk and now this attack. In fact, against the backdrop of such a regular media picture, the other side looks like the winning side.

            I can't believe my eyes... did you really take this at face value... this is obvious sarcasm request The late Emperor Nicholas I told me: "When you joke, don't forget to put emoticons, you old fool!" smile
        3. +12
          4 June 2025 10: 57
          Not so long ago, high-ranking officials in the State Duma, with the support of the Air Force Commander-in-Chief, ardently urged deputies to "cut" the MiG-31. "It is morally obsolete, does not fit into the concept of modern warfare" and so on and so forth. The MiG-31 today is... understandable! The situation with the TU-95 may well repeat itself.
        4. 0
          5 June 2025 19: 38
          Some people didn't get the joke. Alas.
          1. man
            0
            5 June 2025 22: 38
            Quote from: Alex_mech
            Some people didn't get the joke. Alas.

            I already understood smile It's strange, it seems like obvious sarcasm request
            1. 0
              6 June 2025 08: 53
              Not for everyone, about 20-30%, as it turns out, rarely understand sarcasm.
              1. man
                0
                7 June 2025 21: 54
                Quote from: Alex_mech
                Not for everyone, about 20-30%, as it turns out, rarely understand sarcasm.

                I don't want to upset you, but in some topics there are already a majority of them, especially in the news smile
        5. 0
          6 June 2025 22: 29
          It doesn't matter at all whether they were going to dispose of them or not. It's part of the nuclear deterrence system that is being bitten off little by little.
          Why our people want to pretend that this is nonsense, I don't know. In my opinion, this was a good chance to drop all the good-neighborly rhetoric and for the president to make an appeal "brothers and sisters." That British special operations forces and intelligence carried out an attack on Russian territory.
          1. +1
            6 June 2025 22: 41
            Give 12 hours to hand over the organizers and executors. Raise the strategists. Everyone leave Kyiv, Odessa, Rzeszow. Warn that there is no longer a consensus in Syria, the American bases there have been delayed.
          2. man
            0
            6 June 2025 23: 15
            Quote: Zefr
            It doesn't matter at all whether they were going to dispose of them or not. It's part of the nuclear deterrence system that is being bitten off little by little.
            Why our people want to pretend that this is nonsense, I don't know. In my opinion, this was a good chance to drop all the good-neighborly rhetoric and for the president to make an appeal "brothers and sisters." That British special operations forces and intelligence carried out an attack on Russian territory.

            You are not the first one who did not understand that this is sarcasm. You should have filled me with emoticons...
      2. +16
        4 June 2025 09: 11
        Quote: parma
        showed that Ukraine, having tens of times fewer resources and opportunities, can hurt us very much,

        Regarding "tens of times less resources", allow me to disagree. 1. Intelligence. NATO satellite and aerial reconnaissance, working 100% for Ukraine, is tens of times more powerful than ours. 2. Drones. The supply of components to Ukraine comes from both our enemies (the EU, South Korea, Japan, etc.) and neutral "partners" (like China). That is, more than we get. 3. Weapons and ammunition. The Ukies supply everything to NATO and not only. Anyone who wants to make money. We can only count on our own strength. Well, plus the DPRK. 4. Finance. Likewise, only here we are without the DPRK. 5. Human resources. With total mobilization in Ukraine and voluntary-contract service, our human resources are comparable.
        So, count where we are ten times superior to Ukraine. This victory will not be easy. But it will definitely HAPPEN!
        1. +2
          4 June 2025 12: 03
          I disagree with you on reconnaissance, NATO aviation operates exclusively from its own/neutral airspace, so it can transmit information no further than 500 km from the border. And as for satellites - there is no information about how many satellites we have and whether we receive data from private ones.
          Regarding drones, China is ready (and is providing this) to fill both sides with components, it’s just that Kyiv has well-established production, while we have either volunteers or unwieldy giants.
          In terms of weapons and ammunition supplies, equipment supplies are actually meager even against the background of the Ukrainian Armed Forces' reserves for 2022, not to mention NATO's real capabilities. In terms of ammunition, the picture has not changed much throughout the conflict either - there was not a single day when the Ukrainian Armed Forces even came close in terms of shell consumption. By the way, we also had not only our own and Korean shells, but at least Indian and Iranian ones that were spotted.
          Regarding finances, the picture is the same as with equipment - the money allocated is not so astronomical compared to the volume of the economy, even in absolute figures, and if you exclude the supply of equipment from storage, then there is nothing to talk about. Their mobilization is not total, even among people over 25. Look at a bunch of videos with "busification" - a guy is spinning the TCC, and other guys are walking past. In the current mode, it seems like the reserve mobilization will last until the end of the decade.
          Kyiv basically has no aviation or navy (we can say we don’t have a navy either, the aviation is probably still trying to do something).
          So it turns out that Kyiv has fewer resources than we do, and significantly fewer. A completely different question is about the possible increase in aid and comparison with NATO resources.
          As a result (my personal opinion) - we have more resources, but the competent use of their own by the enemy leads to parity. You can refer as much as you like to the fact that supposedly NATO specialists are in charge of everything, so - NATO specialists are "white people" and getting "knocked out" by them is not shameful, there is no need to bow before the opportunity? And why then do we snap at them at all, they have more resources, the specialists are more talented and competent, maybe then sit in your corner and not show off?
          1. +2
            4 June 2025 14: 09
            NATO satellite reconnaissance has the ability to take photos with a pixel size of 30x30 cm throughout the territory of the Russian Federation.
          2. +3
            6 June 2025 08: 43
            NATO supplies are not meager - they are at the limit of NATO's production capabilities. Shells were scraped from all over the world until the reserves were exhausted. Deliveries of NATO aircraft are limited by the lack of trained Ukrainian pilots, and Soviet aircraft have already given up almost everything they could. The Russian Federation is fighting against a huge satellite group. There are about 8000 Starlink satellites alone, 100-300 of which are in the SVO zone. This is dozens of times more than the Russian Federation has. NATO Ukraine receives the latest information on the position of Russian troops every day.
        2. -3
          4 June 2025 12: 06
          Yes, this is a war with NATO. Even these planes were destroyed by NATO, not Ukraine. The situation is like with the Nord Streams, where Ukraine is a pure false trail.
          1. +8
            4 June 2025 19: 40
            If this is a war with NATO, then why has our leadership, with enviable persistence, been selling strategic resources on a record scale (LNG, fertilizers, titanium, uranium, etc.) to these enemy countries of NATO all these years of war?
            1. -2
              4 June 2025 20: 49
              Why did Hitler's tanks run on American gasoline?
              1. 0
                6 June 2025 14: 33
                Well, you are just an ordinary true "patriot", at any indication that something is wrong in the Russian Federation, you immediately automatically say "But the USA...!!!". Are you a patriot of Russia or the USA? If Russia, then you should be primarily concerned with what is happening in Russia, and not in the USA, the EU, Ukraine or on Mars. As for the supplies of fuel by American companies through neutral countries to Nazi Germany... You condemn them for this, you consider it wrong and disgusting, don't you? But then why are you trying to justify similar actions of the Russian leadership in hostile NATO countries with this example? You should decide, if the Americans supplying resources to Hitler is bad, then the supply of strategic resources to hostile NATO countries is also bad. And if you think that the Russian leadership is doing everything right by supplying its enemies with resources, then what moral right do you have to condemn the Americans for supplying Hitler? Or am I not understanding and this is different?
                1. +2
                  6 June 2025 17: 17
                  You asked why, I told you why. And don't attribute to me what I didn't say.
                  The Americans were shot at by German tanks that ran on American fuel. Why did this happen? It seems obvious to me why.
                  Maybe because in the USSR, despite the statements about bloody imperialists, they wanted to trade with them and bought a lot of things - like steel from Japan, bearings, ship engines, trucks for BAM, etc. At the same time, they were preparing for a nuclear war and throws to the English Channel on T80.
                  Of course, you can build a curtain, but what to do with the factories that will lose their markets?
                  And business will still look for ways like a shadow fleet. That's why, for example, microchips from Ireland end up in our drones and missiles, and our LNG ends up in Europe.
                  That is why there is officially no war, but there is the SVO.
                  1. 0
                    14 June 2025 10: 36
                    Well, there is just a small difference, the USSR did not trade with countries with which it was in a state of hot war, and what it traded with the opposing camp of capitalists, so this money went to the development of its own economy, to build factories and plants producing goods and products, so as not to depend on "partners", and the fact that now and in the post-Soviet era, resources are sold to "existential enemies", then where does the money go? To the development of its own industry? "We will sell resources and buy what is needed" who from the leadership said? Holes in the budget are plugged with these funds, and mainly into private pockets. So it turns out that in Soviet times the country developed at a rapid pace, and now only the Forbes list is developing, the other day there were already 146 Russian billionaires on this list, and the people are asked to "tighten their belts"
                    1. 0
                      14 June 2025 21: 02
                      The answer is buried in the question: “The USSR did not trade with countries with which it was in a state of hot war.”
                      Is there a War now? There is no war now, now the SVO is a special operation against terrorists in a limited territory with limited resources. This is the official position and yes - Ukraine has not declared War on us either.
                      I have not heard of people being asked to tighten their belts, despite the SVO no significant differences have been observed - pensions and social programs are not being cut, as before there are pilaf festivals, etc.
                      Regarding the USSR - the topic is too long, but I would not say that the USSR had an abundance of goods. And I do not mean the 1980s. The USSR economic system was closed and the ruble was inconvertible, so the USSR was always in search of currency - and the best goods always went abroad, and the population could only get what was given. For example, when there was a shortage of cars, almost half went for export, or, for example, dried timber. Constant problems with tires, oils, spare parts, TV and other equipment, sneakers, etc., and the further from the capitals - the worse it was. As an example - in my city they played a lottery for the right to buy furniture from a local factory, and dried timber went to Finland. And there can be many such examples. But I am not saying that the USSR is G. I am saying that a closed system functions by its own rules and has many disadvantages. China opened its economy, but the USSR did not and curtailed the program in the 1970s because it contradicted the ideology. The result is known.
            2. -3
              6 June 2025 08: 57
              Before the Great Patriotic War, the Soviet leadership sold resources (timber, grain, furs, oil) to buy machine tools, turbines and equipment for the oil, chemical and steel industries, power plants... The Russian Federation does the same. But the Russian Federation resells foreign uranium, after enrichment at its own factories. The titanium was also not Russian, but Ukrainian.
              1. 0
                14 June 2025 10: 39
                Well, this changes everything, since uranium and titanium are not Russian, during the Great Patriotic War, Stalin would have also gladly sold Hitler a couple of barges and trains with the metals he needed at a good price.
        3. +2
          4 June 2025 20: 23
          Take a piece of paper, divide it in half and on one side write what NATO has, on the other side what we have.
          This means population, weapons, aviation, navy, finance, economy, mobile resources, missile weapons, intelligence, satellite constellation, etc.
          Then tell me, which NATO are we fighting with?
          The "war" with NATO is needed in order to explain to the people the length of the SVO (4th year) and, in essence, the lack of global successes.
          1. Ray
            +2
            5 June 2025 00: 49
            A very good visual technique with a sheet divided into 2 parts.
            I absolutely agree. Fortunately, we are not fighting with any NATO yet. We are only fighting with a country that is only receiving some military assistance from NATO.
            1. -2
              6 June 2025 17: 19
              In Germany there is a command headquarters of the Ukrainian troops, which develops operations, if you are not aware.
          2. +3
            6 June 2025 09: 14
            The entire NATO satellite group, which is tens of times larger than the Russian one, is fighting on the side of the NATO part of Ukraine. Elon Musk said that without it, Ukraine would immediately lose.
            NATO economy and finance - 28000 - 30000 sanctions against Russia.
            NATO's tenfold advantage in mobilization resources is leveled by parity in nuclear weapons, so it is not used to the full extent. As soon as NATO uses its mobilization resources, a conventional war for the Russian Federation will lose its meaning. The presence of nuclear parity allows for proportional losses for NATO countries with a population of 1 billion.
          3. 0
            14 June 2025 10: 41
            In 2015, Ukrainian TV explained the lack of success in the LPR and DPR by the war with Russia. At the same time, Solovyov and Kiselyov laughed at this, saying that Russia had not yet arrived for this war.
      3. +1
        4 June 2025 09: 36
        Excuse me, but "until the thunder strikes" is apparently the national driving force for development. The whole story is about catching up and overtaking. The big plus in this is that it often works out.
        In a household it is often like this: “it serves for now, it will serve a little longer, I will restore it a little” and this delays the acquisition or construction of something new and modern.
        Of course, it happens that after a fire and the loss of something relatively new, “as if it wasn’t so necessary” calms down.
        Now something in between has happened. And considering that in any case it is no longer possible to build new ones, there is a reason to move to another level. At the same time, take care of "fire safety". And based on the results, draw a conclusion, depending on whether it worked or not.
        1. +1
          4 June 2025 19: 46
          Or maybe not to a new level, but through the media, just like before they said that this is “oh, what a club we have to scare our enemies”, they will say “oh, this ancient junk that pumps out money is of no use to anyone, and in general war has changed and we will make drones”
      4. -3
        4 June 2025 09: 52
        I agree except for "Ukraine, having tens of times fewer resources and opportunities, can hurt us very much." This operation would be impossible with the help of Ukraine. We are fighting with the West, for whom Ukraine is a proxy, so the enemy has more resources than we do.
        1. +7
          4 June 2025 11: 53
          This operation would have been impossible with Ukrainian forces.

          Why? They don't know how to use FPV drones? Or maybe they don't know how to do basic mechanics to make a plywood box with a hinged lid?
          On Google maps you can easily see the airfield, and on Wikipedia you can see what kind of military unit is there and what kind of planes are stationed there.
          If they wanted, militias from some banana republic could have carried out this operation.
          We are at war with the West, for whom Ukraine is a proxy

          So, by this logic, Vietnam can also be called a proxy of the USSR against the USA.
          Was there Soviet intelligence? - There was.
          Where are the instructors from? - From the USSR.
          Weapons from whom? - USSR.
          Or is it another?
          1. +2
            4 June 2025 19: 09
            Quote: Ermak_415
            So, by this logic, Vietnam can be called a proxy of the USSR against the USA.

            What exactly bothers you? Some interpret it exactly that way. But it wasn't just the USSR, whales and many, many others also made their mark there.

          2. +1
            6 June 2025 09: 48
            There are the Hague Conventions on the Rights and Duties of Neutral Powers, according to which NATO countries are definitely not neutral in this conflict. The USSR was not neutral in the Vietnam War either. The USSR decided to act against the USA on the side of Vietnam. There were many deliveries of Soviet weapons (worth billions). The main task of the Soviet military was to destroy American aviation with their weapons, which they did successfully.
          3. ada
            0
            10 June 2025 02: 28
            Quote: Ermak_415
            Or is it another?

            fellow
            You will not believe - Yes
            We've come to this... now Vietnam is a proxy...
            Where is the country heading? what
        2. -1
          4 June 2025 12: 08
          It's like with missiles - NATO satellites guide NATO missiles fired from NATO planes. How Great is the Greatness of Ukraine.
      5. 0
        6 June 2025 16: 19
        > Ukraine has tens of times fewer resources and opportunities

        Bullshit: 1 billion of the collective West works for Ukraine, yes, they are tired there (in the US and Germany the government has changed, negotiations have begun) but the process of their supply does not stop, that is the first thing. Secondly, Ukraine has mobilized more than a million people, and is approaching the limit for purely demographic reasons, while the Russian Federation is still recruiting volunteers under contract. Thirdly, Ukraine recently defaulted, despite the fact that Western countries fully finance the civilian part of the budget (the entire economy of Ukraine is 100% working for the war, this allows it to have a military budget comparable to the Russian Federation) and at the same time the situation with the economy in the Russian Federation is not exactly alarming.

        In general, the Russian Federation is waging a hybrid war against a much superior enemy, and is doing so without much effort (general mobilization, “everything for the front, everything for victory” and the use of loaves of bread).
  2. +36
    4 June 2025 04: 58
    Sorry, but the article is from the anti-crisis area, although of course of a higher level than from DIMK MO...
    In fact, there is nothing to intercept the Tu-95 over the pole, which means that they can operate from the north, both in Europe and in the States - one. Two - the Tu-95s largely provide for the massed strikes on Bandershtad... So the loss is significant.
    Well, the article doesn't mention that the "Bears" are far from being the same years of production as the B-52s...
    1. +6
      4 June 2025 12: 18
      Quote: Vladimir_2U
      In fact, there is nothing to intercept the Tu-95 over the pole.

      Let me clarify - during wartime.
      In peacetime, the American continent's air defense can intercept the Tu-95 in all directions - having long-range detection almost from the moment of takeoff of the strategists and communications.
      But in wartime, long-range detection and communications will fail after the first arrivals of the SBC. Or maybe even earlier - if someone arranges exoatmospheric explosions of the SBC. And the northern direction will remain practically blind - the only means of detection will be the NWS radar line (the successor to the DEW line), in which it is enough to disable several radar posts.
      1. -1
        4 June 2025 20: 28
        Let me remind you a little - missiles flying along the altitude map (without satellite guidance, which will fall off in a large-scale conflict, and you won’t use American satellites against them) fly very poorly over the sea and flat areas of the northern hemisphere.
      2. -1
        5 June 2025 03: 08
        Quote: Alexey RA
        In peacetime, the American continent's air defense can intercept the Tu-95 in all directions - having long-range detection almost from the moment of takeoff of the strategists and communications.

        Detect it, maybe, but intercept it over the pole? By what means? The interceptors in Alaska simply won't have enough fuel.
        1. 0
          5 June 2025 10: 15
          Quote: Vladimir_2U
          Detect it, maybe, but intercept it over the pole? By what means?

          They might not intercept it over the pole, but they might over the northern coast in peacetime. True, they'll have to be perverted - PTB + refuellers.
          However, in peacetime, the approach is known several hours in advance. So they will have time to organize an interception. They were planning to intercept a Tu-95MS with an X-55 during the Cold War.
  3. +49
    4 June 2025 05: 05
    Of course, it's not me who's surprised, as soon as we start losing something, it turns out we didn't need it, the helicopters have been shooting in Crimea, the helicopters are outdated, the tanks are having a hard time because of the drones, the tanks are outdated. Now it's time for the Tu-95. Well, and another conclusion surprised me, that there will be no war with either the US or NATO, so it turns out, why do we need an army at all? Although it's fashionable now to disguise wars with beautiful abbreviations, then yes, there won't be any specific wars...
    1. +21
      4 June 2025 06: 09
      Quote from turembo
      Of course, I'm not surprised, as soon as we start losing something, it immediately turns out that we didn't need it.

      Here is an article that we don't need Ukraine at all, only problems - blah a couple of days ago...
      What is it for? belay
    2. +9
      4 June 2025 11: 59
      Of course, I'm not surprised, as soon as we start losing something, it immediately turns out that we didn't need it.

      These same people were proud that the Ukrainians did not reach Moscow when they were advancing in the Kursk region.
      And even if they had taken it, it would have been "Pfft, what an achievement, Vladivostok is ours, which means it's not a big deal, and in general Moscow is a parasite."
    3. +5
      4 June 2025 12: 38
      Quote from turembo
      helicopters are outdated, tanks are having a hard time because of drones, tanks are outdated. Now it's time for the Tu-95.

      Warships are outdated... too. But for some reason everything is outdated here! Warships, helicopters, and armored vehicles... And the enemy is building ships, tanks, helicopters... And they are in a hurry to build them.
      1. 0
        6 June 2025 10: 01
        Russia builds more tanks in this regard than NATO. But new anti-tank weapons in the form of several simple drones with a grenade easily destroy a tank like the Leopard or Abrams for 2-10 million dollars.
    4. +12
      4 June 2025 14: 56
      Are generals being killed right in Moscow? Maybe they are outdated and it's time to retire them? what
    5. +4
      5 June 2025 05: 42
      It’s true that when they took the T-54 and M-46 out of stock, there were articles saying that they were awesome and would still fight. laughing
  4. +51
    4 June 2025 05: 11
    I read the article and realized that instead of a destructive response, we should thank the Ukrainian special services for speeding up the disposal of an old and useless plane.
    Tomorrow, if the absence of sobering blows continues, will they explain to us that NATO bases in Odessa, Zaporozhye and Sumy and their troops on the border with the Kursk and Belgorod regions are a guarantee of peace and stability not only in Europe, but throughout the world?
    1. +27
      4 June 2025 06: 06
      Here "there is a lot of talk about 'calm down'", today citizen Fedorov also speaks out on the sidelines of the Military Review: "The Tu-95MS and Tu-22M3 are very important assets of the Aerospace Forces, but even the loss of the entire fleet of these missile carriers pales in comparison to the potential destruction of the long-range radar. As an element of the nuclear triad, strategic aircraft have long since lost their significance - except as objects on which the enemy will spend its nuclear charges."
      https://topwar.ru/265689-varianty-otveta-rossii-na-unichtozhenie-chasti-jadernogo-schita.html

      Generally, "calm down citizens".
      1. "for the consciousness of an ordinary Ukrainian, clouded by Bandera propaganda, a few burnt Tu-95s would be more than enough"
      2. "The secondary goal of the strikes was to initiate unrest within Russia"
      3. "The footage of drones falling on the Tu-95 was, of course, impressive, but not critical."

      But how can Fedorov surpass Skomorokhov: "The Tu-95 will forever remain in the memory of aviation historians as a luxurious machine that served its time (and even more) honestly."
      1. +21
        4 June 2025 10: 10
        An anti-crisis order was issued from above, first an article about how there will definitely be a new Midway)))
        Then an article that it turns out it’s impossible with SNV-3, but for some reason the Americans built it with Whiteman
        Here the buffoon writes that the Americans won't replace the B-52 either, yeah yeah. The B-2 and B-21 are just jokes, apparently. And in his usual manner, well, it will fly someday, it's already flying and undergoing the necessary checks, I haven't seen his mantra about American money yet.

        The bottom line is that all Soviet galoshes that were prepared to protect the great country are being systematically destroyed.
  5. +29
    4 June 2025 05: 13
    B-52 - 1952, Tu-16 - 1952, Tu-95 is younger - 1956.

    Of those listed, only the B-52 is an oldie, the Tu-95MS is from the 80s, and the H-6K is completely new, and it has D-30 engines, not AM-3.
    Then a fair question arises: is it needed at all?

    As a combat platform, the Russian Aerospace Forces simply have no analogues.
    1. +23
      4 June 2025 07: 24
      and the H-6K is completely new, and the engines there are D-30, not AM-3.

      The thing is that the Chinese are still producing them, but we don't produce Tu-95. And we don't even produce Tu-22M3...
      As for the Americans, they have a lot of B-52 aircraft mothballed in the desert, if they want to re-engine them and put them into service, it’s not a problem, they just launched a B-52 modernization program.
      The Chinese have long ago redesigned their Xians - they have different avionics and no glass nose (they stuck a radar in there). It only looks like the former Tu-16, but the insides are completely different and they are still producing them.
  6. +43
    4 June 2025 05: 20
    Did I understand correctly that in a modern war, weapons are not needed at all? They will shoot down, burn and sink anyway? wink
    1. +16
      4 June 2025 07: 29
      Well, in general, you can probably just go straight to the coffin, what else can you do... wassat
      1. +2
        4 June 2025 08: 18
        Quote: Nexcom
        Well, in general, you can probably just go straight to the coffin, what else can you do... wassat

        The Strugatskys described it this way
        Paral objected that he knew nothing about tanks and full pants and didn't want to know, but we all knew the same about nuclear war. "Lie down with your feet towards the explosion and crawl to the nearest cemetery," he said.
    2. 0
      6 June 2025 10: 12
      Even inflatable tanks, howitzers and air defense systems are needed.
  7. +43
    4 June 2025 05: 29
    Roman was really taken by the "fifth point" (or maybe given a huge carrot) - if he started spouting such "nonsense"... But at the beginning of the SVO he wrote quite articles that had some useful effect against the destruction, that is, optimization, of military production...
    1. 0
      5 June 2025 05: 46
      War comes and goes. But you always want to eat. laughing
  8. -20
    4 June 2025 05: 39
    We have an aircraft that can, in principle, replace the TU-95. With the same combat load and the same range and speed. This is the IL-76. The TU-95 combat load is from 9 to 20 tons, depending on the range. That is, with such a load, the IL-76 can fly no less and maybe even more. There would be a desire and concentration of efforts to turn the IL-76 into a strategic bomber.
    1. +15
      4 June 2025 07: 34
      It is possible, but there are not enough of them as transport aircraft, they cannot increase production yet, they do not produce more than 3-4 aircraft per year, and there is a queue and waiting for them. They want to additionally produce the Il-96-400 in a transport version for civilians so that they lag behind the Il-76 at least a little. No, it is clear that the 96th is not the hard worker 76 which will carry much more, but at least something .... At one time they wanted to make a fuel tanker-refueler from the 96th, again, to relieve the Il-78 production line, but somehow it did not work out ... So far they cannot produce many 76x and its modification Il-78, alas .... There they need to expand production and recruit people somewhere .... And as for the A-50 and A-100, there is generally sad silence ....
      1. +4
        4 June 2025 07: 50
        There, production needs to be expanded and people need to be recruited somewhere... And as for the A-50 and A-100, there is a sad silence...


        "In general, sources in the OSCE that have not been verified by anyone or anything report that the A-100 project has been closed.
        The aircraft had to be able to detect and track up to 300 air, sea and ground targets, as well as control drones.
        Remember.
        324.5Kviewsedited
        15:37 "

        https://t.me/fighter_bomber
      2. +4
        4 June 2025 12: 35
        Not quite so. The 76th with the same engines (as on the 96-300) drags a ramp and has a less advantageous aerodynamic layout. Therefore, a tanker, a patrol car, an RTR vehicle (and so on) based on the 96th will either carry more load, or patrol longer, or deliver, for example, the same volume of fuel to the line not 3500, but 5000...
        But!
        For normal operation they will need a concrete runway of considerable length.
        And here we believe that in the event of a serious breach, such runways will not remain in a little while.
        So they choose a platform that theoretically allows them to do the same thing, but from the ground...
        All others consider this requirement (basing) to be excessive.

        By the way. Our biggest bottleneck is (for now, at least) the possible production volume of that same PS-90 (or similar engine) per year.
    2. -2
      4 June 2025 12: 24
      How friendly the people were in putting minuses, but thanks for your attention. Do we need to protect our homeland or transport consumer goods around the country or abroad? I agree about the A-50 and A-100, they may even be more necessary than bombers. What is interesting about the IL-76, this brilliant plane? You can make anything out of it, be it a transport plane, an AWACS, or a passenger plane. And why not make a combat missile carrier out of it in difficult times for the country. They made it out of the PO-2.
      The war has spread beyond the Urals, the whole country is under fire, take care of yourself. soldier
  9. +17
    4 June 2025 05: 46
    some kind of blizzard and not an article, in Europe they gave most of their air defense to Ukraine for disposal, the same Swifts and S-300 Ukrainian fell in Poland, Hungary, Romania, Croatia and note that no one shot them down, because there is nothing to shoot them down with, so Europe, if not naked, then in swimming trunks and a Panama hat, nothing more.
    no questions asked, screw the Tu-95 if we had 10 Tu-160-M2s being put into service every year, but that's not the case
    1. +19
      4 June 2025 06: 10
      Quote: Graz
      screw the Tu-95 if we had 10 Tu-160-M2s being put into service every year

      I disagree. The Tu-160 is a terribly expensive plane. The cost of an hour of flight can differ four times from the Tu-95. The Tu-95 is the most economical. It is even more economical than the Tu-22m3 (which is not a strategist).
      Roughly speaking, the Tu-95 is used for regular patrols, and the Tu-160 for a show of force.
      1. +3
        4 June 2025 12: 03
        It is even more economical than the Tu-22M3 (which is not a strategist).

        compared Zaporozhets and Ferrari...
        When the Tu-22M3 takes off with afterburner, the glass from the windows on the ground flies out...
    2. -1
      4 June 2025 12: 08
      In Europe, they gave most of their air defense systems to Ukraine for disposal.

      Why is that? They gave a lot, yes. But that's a maximum of half of all European air defense.
  10. +18
    4 June 2025 05: 46
    I hope few people will click the star under the article...
    1. +18
      4 June 2025 06: 14
      I would have clicked minus on this article if there was such an option.
  11. +24
    4 June 2025 05: 56
    The main problem with the Tu-95 is that it is huge and slow.

    The Tu-95 is the smallest strategist in size. And its speed is fine. It is outstanding for turboprop aircraft. The cruising speeds of strategists are subsonic. If we compare the Tu-95 with its direct competitor B-52, the Tu-95 is smaller in size and flies at approximately the same speed. The Tu-95 is our workhorse. And irreplaceable. All the work is done on it.
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    1. +36
      4 June 2025 06: 06
      I can just imagine how, after reading the article, the Americans, bursting into tears, ran to cut up their B-52s...
      1. -16
        4 June 2025 06: 44
        Americans like to chase Bidouins in the desert, whose only air defense is the DShK. But the Europeans have long ago cut up all their Dorniers or sent them to museums. And they don't really care.
      2. +17
        4 June 2025 08: 44
        Soon it will be the turn of the Strategic Missile Forces - "they are not needed because they have never fired a single shot"
        And regarding the Tu95: the very possibility of an X101 landing keeps about a thousand F16s on American territory on edge, is beyond the authors' comprehension...
        1. -1
          4 June 2025 15: 26
          It keeps them not in tension, but in combat readiness, which means they can take off at any moment for any other task...
          This is a double edged sword.
      3. 0
        6 June 2025 10: 33
        Yes, that's how it was. In the 90s, the US destroyed several hundred B-52s (300-400 units), sold them for scrap metal and no longer produces them. Although... it would seem... unlike Russia... the US has many military bases that are not far from Russian territory. According to START-3, the parties took on new obligations to additionally destroy strategic bombers.
  13. +25
    4 June 2025 06: 03
    It would take days, if not weeks, for a submarine to reach the missile launch zone - so what, should they be written off?
    The strategist must also hang somewhere in the air during the threatening period, awaiting the command to launch.
    For this, there should be not "all three", but many. And they should be produced regularly, so that those that have exhausted their resource can be replaced.
    The turboprop Tu-95 is ideal for such a "hover", which lasts for quite a long time.
    1. -3
      4 June 2025 07: 45
      Our submarines constantly patrol covertly, and do not stand at the pier and wait for the command to go and launch, so while in a given square on patrol they have nothing to do to fire. That is why the Americans are hysterical when they cannot detect our submarines on patrol.
      1. +2
        4 June 2025 12: 13
        That's why the authorities are hysterical when they can't detect our submarines on patrol.

        I'm sure they know approximately where our submarines are.
        They were experts at detecting Soviet submarines back during the Cold War.
        1. +1
          4 June 2025 19: 07
          Knowing and roughly knowing are two different things. In war, if you roughly know, you will be killed.
      2. +7
        4 June 2025 15: 12
        Our EPLs
        Not long ago, official photographs showed four of them side by side a hundred kilometers from the border with Norway. A couple of F16s there could be enough to leave us without a significant part of our nuclear potential. While the degenerates haven't even installed electronic warfare systems to jam mobile phones at a strategic airfield, they're putting the dying SSBNs in one place fool
        1. +2
          4 June 2025 19: 07
          A pair of F-16s will be annihilated in mid-air.
          1. +2
            4 June 2025 19: 13
            They will also work over Norway. And why did you think that two planes will fly head-on? The enemy has an army - there will be reconnaissance, and jammers, and saboteurs with drones, and submarines will be on guard nearby
  14. +26
    4 June 2025 06: 15
    and there is no doubt that its construction can be resumed

    Made me smile laughing
  15. +26
    4 June 2025 06: 18
    It feels like Staver took Roman hostage and is writing on his behalf...
  16. +13
    4 June 2025 06: 27
    What is this anyway? What about the article about the "Sunday slap"? Was it an educational talk or "the discourse has changed", as some radio stations like to say now? That's what it's all about, really.
    1. +13
      4 June 2025 06: 35
      It makes me feel sick
  17. +23
    4 June 2025 06: 30
    A group of buffoons gave birth to a mouse again....
  18. +3
    4 June 2025 06: 35
    Why not use the TU-95 as an AWACS aircraft...since we're talking about its usefulness.
    Add a radar antenna with a transmitter...install modern digital data processing equipment...this is entirely within the capabilities of our industry.
    1. +1
      4 June 2025 06: 46
      They couldn't change the filling of Yuri Gagarin. Although there was space for three stadiums! And you want to make an AWACS out of a bear? Don't make me laugh.
      1. +6
        4 June 2025 07: 13
        The Chinese have succeeded...
        KJ-500 AEW&C - Airborne Early Warning System of the People's Liberation Army of China. Journal Military Watch Magazine.
        And we don't have... what what's the matter???
        1. +10
          4 June 2025 07: 51
          Quote: The same LYOKHA
          And we don't have... what's the matter???

          the fact that China has a much better situation with microelectronics, as well as with aircraft manufacturing in principle... trying to catch up with China in this area is a lousy idea hi
          1. +7
            4 June 2025 08: 16
            Who would have thought...30 years ago...that China would make such a leap and we would end up on the bench. request
        2. +18
          4 June 2025 08: 11
          Well, there are communists in power. And we have effective managers, blessed by priests.
        3. +3
          4 June 2025 11: 41
          Quote: The same LYOKHA
          The Chinese have succeeded...
          KJ-500 AEW&C - Airborne Early Warning System of the People's Liberation Army of China. Journal Military Watch Magazine.

          The Chinese used the An-12 transport aircraft with its cargo cabin as a base, not the Tu-95 spindle.
          It was not possible to make a Tu-126 from a Tu-95.
        4. +1
          4 June 2025 12: 08
          The Chinese have succeeded...
          And we don't have... what's the matter???

          so if you go into an electronics store, everything on the shelves is made in China...
          here is the answer ...
        5. +2
          4 June 2025 15: 20
          But who is in charge in China? The party kids! And we have the intelligence elite, the KGB school! That's why they have intelligence and so on, and we don't have any intelligence, and it seems like there is none. request
    2. +3
      4 June 2025 11: 39
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      Why not use the TU-95 as an AWACS aircraft...since we're talking about its usefulness.

      Because this rake was already stepped on during the USSR. The notorious Tu-126 was initially intended to be based on the Tu-95. But it turned out that the fuselage volume was too small to accommodate the equipment and the increased crew (which also needed an additional pressurized cabin), as well as to ensure the crew's work during multi-hour patrols.
      And we had to take as a basis the first Soviet AWACS aircraft, the Pax Tu-114.
      1. 0
        4 June 2025 12: 10
        initially we wanted to do it on this base Tu-95.

        And we had to take the first Soviet AWACS aircraft, Pax, as a basis Tu-114.

        Do these machines have different fuselages?
        1. +1
          4 June 2025 16: 48
          Quote: Dedok
          Do these machines have different fuselages?

          Tu-95: fuselage diameter - 2,9 m
          Tu-114: fuselage diameter - 4,2 m
          Compare:

          1. -1
            6 June 2025 11: 43
            The Tu-114 is also a converted Tu-95. Moreover, it was converted from already built Tu-95s. How it is possible to increase the fuselage of an already finished aircraft, I do not know, but it was done, and in 1957!
            1. +1
              6 June 2025 15: 52
              Quote: The Meaning of Life
              The Tu-114 is also a converted Tu-95. Moreover, it was converted from already built Tu-95s.

              Are you serious? Is it true that the Tu-95 is a mid-wing aircraft and the Tu-114 is a low-wing aircraft? wink
              The Tu-95 was converted into the Tu-116 - "diplomatic aircraft".

              2 copies were issued.
              And yes, they were also considered as a base for the Tu-126. And they were rejected for the same reasons as the base Tu-95.
    3. 0
      4 June 2025 12: 06
      Add a radar antenna with a transmitter...install modern digital data processing equipment...our industry is quite capable of this.

      I doubt it... then the A-100 would be in the troops in the required quantities...
    4. 0
      4 June 2025 14: 17
      Where should we transmit the data and how? Why do we need a reconnaissance plane if we have to wait until it lands and only then transmit the data to headquarters?
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    1. +11
      4 June 2025 06: 49
      Quote: Victor Leningradets
      But he wrote it in such a way that anyone who doesn't confuse a butt with a fore-end understands that Nonsense has been thoroughly and publicly flogged. The commentators are barking, pouring out their souls and branding him with shame!

      A small lie gives birth to a great deception.
      And playing with one’s conscience and decency imperceptibly leads to betrayal.
      And here he was, a normal person - and after a few articles he became an ordinary Kremlin bot...
      1. 0
        4 June 2025 07: 03
        A lie for the sake of salvation is not a sin.
        This is what the Holy Scripture teaches.
        You've simply forgotten the times when the only way to write the truth was in Aesopian language. And it was impossible not to write, if it was a profession. No need to suffer from amnesia, "Word and Deed" have not left us!
        1. +8
          4 June 2025 07: 10
          Quote: Victor Leningradets
          A lie for the sake of salvation is not a sin.
          This is what the Holy Scripture teaches.

          That's what I'm talking about...
          This is how easily and casually any betrayal is justified.
          So what?
          The strategists were destroyed - that is, they were hit on one cheek - Skomorokhov and Leningradets say - we need to turn the other, that is, either blow up the remaining ones ourselves, or help those interested.
          After all, it says so in the Bible.
          1. +4
            4 June 2025 07: 33
            You have a bad relationship with the Old Testament (Bible)
            "An eye for an eye" - that's what it says there. Israel actually lives by these precepts, although it doesn't adhere to proportions. (Here it's appropriate to recall the Ashanti with their motto "Kill a thousand!").
            "To him who strikes you on the left cheek, turn the right" - this is the New Testament.
            1. +10
              4 June 2025 08: 03
              Quote: Victor Leningradets
              You have a bad relationship with the Old Testament (Bible)

              But you have it good - you can easily justify any "f...r".
              1. -1
                4 June 2025 08: 21
                That's why they didn't beat you, but me. So I'm right.
                1. -2
                  4 June 2025 12: 17
                  Which of you has more minuses?
              2. +1
                4 June 2025 08: 21
                That's why they banned me, not you. So I'm right.
            2. 0
              5 June 2025 02: 35
              Quote: Victor Leningradets
              "To him who strikes you on the left cheek, turn the right" - this is the New Testament.
              Quote

              Yeah...and then kill the second thousand.
        2. 0
          4 June 2025 12: 15
          A lie for the sake of salvation is not a sin

          In this way, all military propaganda of all countries can be justified.
          And Goebbels too, by the way.
  20. +30
    4 June 2025 06: 45
    I read it. Hmm... I didn't expect that. And then maybe we should close VASO? And in general, eliminate aviation as a branch of the Russian Armed Forces? However, there is a grain of truth in the fact that Russian military aviators have become, if not cowards, then very cautious. Although, probably, the regiments that remained after the pogrom of the USSR Air Force bear the title of Guards, and so on... . Helicopters are now firing from behind the hill, like "Grad" - that is, at areas, that is, into... nowhere. But everyone is alive, they can retire, and with a veteran's ID card, although there are few benefits there, but still... . But here the question arises - if during the Great Patriotic War our pilots were guided by such considerations that God forbid that they be shot down, where would we be? I would not like to give an example, to put it mildly, they are not a fan, but the Israelis work brazenly, they are not afraid of Iranian air defense... . Degradation, and... cowardice. If you are not ready to work on the target as it should be - go to the air ambulance, or... retire. Unfortunately, it seems that there are no veteran helicopter pilots left who evacuated the wounded from the high-mountain outposts in Afghanistan. They could, if not all, then still could. And now, apparently, it is easier to raise the nose of a helicopter, or a Su-25 and shoot off NURS blocks into nowhere - this is heroism, medals and all that. Now it will start after my words, but I will say this - Soviet pilots - attack aircraft, when "shaved" the ground positions of the fascists, did not raise the noses of their Il-2s to hit somewhere, because they fought not for money, but for the Soviet Motherland. And do not say that the enemy had a different air defense back then - the density of anti-aircraft fire was not comparable to today's. But some characters really like to position themselves as heirs of the victors, who have no right to talk about it at all! sad
    1. +7
      4 June 2025 10: 17
      Israel is simply on a different level with our Air Force, there were constant operations to suppress air defense, many lessons were learned and the last raid on Iran was with F35, which Iran's S300 and other systems did not see at all, all of Israel's battles calmly returned home.

      And we have parade exercises, where unguided aerial bombs and much more are dropped in an orderly formation, look at the exercises in 2022 with the Republic of Belarus...
    2. +4
      4 June 2025 22: 11
      What the hell kind of cowardice do pilots have? What are these strange fantasies for? Pilots are some of the most valuable and, most importantly, hard-to-replace specialists. Let me remind you of the effectiveness of those "Stalin's Falcons" with their couple-month courses, with the exception of the unique ones who were lucky enough to survive and had time to gain experience. What are the survival statistics of the same IL? Or, even better, the effectiveness of their strikes, the number of friendly fires, etc. And this is taking into account how much of the Luftwaffe's strength was diverted to the Mediterranean and then the second front with strategic bombing, and the degenerate strategy of the Luftwaffe in general. Heroism begins where the ability to plan command ends, and to boast that more people died there is just some kind of butcher's delirium. And why don't our pilots fly behind the tape now, heroically collecting missiles from all Western systems - well, first show me our SIGINT and EW aircraft, our new anti-aircraft missiles, our integrated control and target designation systems for the Air Force, our satellite constellation with all the support for constant reconnaissance and reconnaissance of enemy systems, our new low-observable aircraft, preferably with a level of visibility like the Americans, and so on and so forth, which the Israelis actively use in their operations. That's why they fly, because all this is there and the risk of such operations is minimal. And without all this, blaming the pilots for not flying to the slaughter for the sake of taking a strategically important cowshed and fulfilling your butcher's fantasies is nonsense. However, this is your old tradition - to blame the performers for everything, and not the system, it is always the stationmaster who is to blame for a train wreck, he was not "heroic" enough, you understand.
  21. 0
    4 June 2025 06: 51
    It was long overdue to upgrade the Su-34MD, with a large wing and Al-41 engines, it has a toilet, two crew members too, and the Tu-22, 95 will not be needed, the age of carpet bombing is over soldier
  22. -3
    4 June 2025 07: 10
    The Tu-95 needs to be upgraded into an anti-submarine aircraft.
    As a combat device it became obsolete the day before yesterday. As for the AWACS, I don't know, it would rather make sense to develop it from scratch as a giant unmanned pseudo-satellite with data transmission over the network.
    In general, strategic aviation should be transferred to the Navy. Their destiny is ocean operations: the destruction of AUGs and submarines.
    1. +10
      4 June 2025 07: 13
      Quote: Victor Leningradets
      In general, strategic aviation should be transferred to the Navy.

      Maybe we should first "kick" the Black Sea Fleet out to carry out its mission?
      1. 0
        4 June 2025 07: 42
        For this you need a GOAL.
        This can only be a large landing operation in Reni with the aim of reaching Odessa through Moldova and Transnistria. But such an operation will require the preparation of a serious group of DPRK fighters, the transfer of a naval contingent from the Baltic and the North, as well as the demonstrative destruction of enemy reconnaissance aircraft in neutral waters with missiles from the SBC along the convoy to ensure that NATO is excluded from the confrontation.
        Imagine how much this corresponds to the capabilities of our military and political leadership. Unless DAM is put in charge of the operation - according to his status.
        1. +6
          4 June 2025 08: 05
          Quote: Victor Leningradets
          For this you need a GOAL.

          And the goal of the SVO is not to win, but to “grind down” as much of the Slavic population as possible?
          Then yes, let them sit it out, and the women will give birth to more children (maybe).
          1. 0
            4 June 2025 08: 48
            If I were not very smart, I would write:
            "Here TTT proposes to grind up as much of the Slavic population as possible. And it also spreads the slogan that women will give birth to more." And he would have given a minus, and would have also knocked.
        2. +1
          4 June 2025 12: 51
          Both Vladimir TTT and you are right. Your two comments do not contradict each other.
          1. +2
            4 June 2025 13: 35
            Thank you!
            Honestly, I read your comments with pleasure. You live up to your nickname.
    2. +1
      4 June 2025 07: 48
      The Tu-214MD is the best option for an anti-submarine aircraft, no Il-XNUMXs can handle its load, range, and technological capabilities. hi
    3. +9
      4 June 2025 08: 33
      The Tu-95 needs to be upgraded into an anti-submarine aircraft. As a combat aircraft, it became obsolete the day before yesterday.
      An anti-submarine aircraft based on it was made half a century ago - it's called the Tu-142. It's still in service. And as a combat aircraft, the Tu-95 won't become obsolete for another hundred years: You can cover all our missile silos and even submarines with a surprise strike, but just one Tu-95 flying somewhere in the Arctic will send a retaliatory weapon (16 missiles) to the right address. So those who like to start wars like Israel in 1967 will get such a response that they will think ten times before starting.
      Take care of your Soviet "galoshes"!
      1. +1
        4 June 2025 12: 22
        but just one Tu-95 flying somewhere in the Arctic will send the retaliatory weapon (16 missiles) to the desired address.

        Are you seriously?
        I remember a joke about the reduction of nuclear weapons in the late 80s, where the summary was: Comrade Commander-in-Chief, we have one missile!
        How, from where?
        Yes, in "such and such" regiment of the Strategic Missile Forces the men started drinking and did not know that there was an order to destroy the missiles and did not carry it out!
        Well done officers!
      2. 0
        4 June 2025 13: 44
        I know about the Tu-142. Since they have the same airframe, the Tu-95 is the same way. It is needed there with its flight characteristics. They both need new equipment and weapons to sink submarines. But with air defense and interceptors, these machines are not tenants.
        During the threat period, it will not be possible to hang over the Arctic - they will shoot it down. And the age of cruise missiles is coming to an end. So the age of strategic aviation is coming to an end, and strategists are heading to naval aviation.
        1. +1
          6 June 2025 11: 34
          They won't shoot it down. It still needs to be found first. The Arctic is big. And even if they do find it... enemy fighters won't be constantly flying behind it as an escort, in case a war suddenly starts. A nuclear aircraft carrier or cruiser can follow a submarine for a whole year. And fighters don't have enough range. You can forget about air defense: the missiles have a range of 5500 km. Even flying over Taimyr, it will be able to launch missiles at the US territory.
          1. +1
            6 June 2025 11: 42
            What matters more here is who starts:
            - if they are, they will definitely be shot down as priority targets;
            - if it’s us, then we can have time to shoot back by going out into the area.
            And it is possible to shoot down not only from fighters. With proper target designation, it is possible to use up a couple of ICBMs with MIRVs with a short flight time. The target is a priority!
            1. 0
              6 June 2025 11: 52
              That is, they will not be able to start until they find and destroy all Tu-95s in the air. And there can be about 10 of them flying at any given time (this was the case during the Cold War). Moreover, they will all have to be destroyed in an instant, otherwise as soon as the first one is shot down, the rest will launch missiles. ICBMs are completely useless against those in the air. Even if you know exactly where the plane is flying, by the time the ICBM gets to it, it will already be in a completely different place.
              1. +1
                6 June 2025 11: 57
                Not quite.
                If the target area and its vector of movement are precisely known, then with a high probability two ICBMs with a flight time of 10-12 minutes will cover the area with six 200 kt warheads. The probability of destroying the target is about 90%.
                They are especially well caught during mid-air refueling. They have detection and tracking equipment.
                1. 0
                  6 June 2025 12: 25
                  First of all, where did you get the idea about 10-12 minutes? I think it's no less than 15.
                  Secondly, how can you track planes in the Arctic? From space? It's very difficult - you need satellites with a polar orbit, and visibility over the Arctic is rarely good. And all sorts of magnetic phenomena, polar lights, etc.
                  Thirdly, these warheads still need to be reprogrammed so that they explode at an altitude of 10-12 km, and not 1-2, as for hitting ground targets.
                  Fourthly, the plane is not a dummy, it does not fly in a straight line, but as the pilots direct it. And they do not tell everyone about their route.
                  So, let's do the math: A Tu-95 is flying at 800 km/h. An ICBM is launched at it. By the time it gets there, in 15 minutes it will already be 200 km from its starting point.
                  This is not a land-based launch silo, or even a submarine with its 40 km/h speed.
                  Fifth, satellites track the launch of ballistic missiles, so the launch of an ICBM immediately triggers a retaliatory strike mechanism.
                  1. +1
                    6 June 2025 13: 07
                    The distance from the Northern region to plus is 4200 km. Flight 12 minutes;
                    The radars will detect the presence of the target, and the satellites will guide it.
                    If the Tu-95 does not turn around, they will converge in the meeting area (they shoot ahead).
                    The warheads are SBCH, set for high-altitude detonation; the echelon is taken as the target (for the B-52, from memory, 400 hectofoo = 12200 m).
                    Satellites detect the launch if they are not destroyed, and during the threatening period the first strike is on them and the communications equipment.
                    No, bombers - all of them, both B-21 and PAK DA - are blank shots. Such long-range fighters can participate in ocean battles. Or when air defense and detection means are removed.
                    1. 0
                      6 June 2025 18: 49
                      bombers - all, both B-21 and PAK DA - blank shot.
                      Well, explain this to the Americans, who not only support the B-52, but also build new B-21s.
    4. +3
      4 June 2025 09: 08
      Tu-142 looks at you with surprise. Yes
  23. +21
    4 June 2025 07: 21
    It's a shame about such screw-ups. I read that they have already appointed the guilty, like the conscript who filmed the burning planes, and of course the airbase commanders. But then I remembered the "parade" on Gelendvagens of graduates of the academy of a very serious organization, who managed to "lie down" in higher positions just in the past 9 years.
    1. +13
      4 June 2025 08: 11
      So if you take the genealogy of these "graduates", it turns out that every father is a businessman, every mother is a director of something or other... In the USSR, the special services recruited people of working peasant origin and working intelligentsia, who were studied for more than one year before "men in gray" approached them and offered training with subsequent "employment"...
      And now the main thing is that... The pocket has a good shovel...
    2. 2al
      -7
      4 June 2025 10: 03
      Quite a few of them are hiding in the lairs of our enemies, so we will always play a dirty trick on our enemies.
  24. 0
    4 June 2025 07: 23
    Quote: Vladimir-TTT
    Maybe we should first "kick" the Black Sea Fleet out to carry out its mission?

    No need...until they restore the fighting spirit and combat readiness of the Black Sea Fleet command, it is better to sit in your bases. smile
    Landing operations require careful consideration of all the details...and you can't take Odessa and Nikolaev by storm. request
    1. +4
      4 June 2025 08: 06
      Quote: The same LYOKHA

      No need...until they restore the fighting spirit and combat readiness of the Black Sea Fleet command, it is better to sit in your bases.

      Will they serve 10 years? Or 20?
      They all receive a salary, and a considerable one at that.
      1. 0
        4 June 2025 12: 24
        Will they serve 10 years? Or 20?

        Apparently, until retirement...
  25. +8
    4 June 2025 07: 38
    The worst thing about all this is not that we have outdated aircraft, etc., but that the United States has not stood still for these 30 years.
    We can't even imagine what DARPA has developed there, and what kind of crap has been hanging in space for years). wink
  26. +8
    4 June 2025 07: 47
    The Russian Federation can't do anything really.
    In the Russian Federation there is no mass machine tool manufacturing, engine manufacturing, aircraft manufacturing, shipbuilding, electronics, or almost anything else.
    The Russian people are dying out under this government.
  27. +14
    4 June 2025 08: 03
    It looks like, yes, the order was given to calm the people down. The same songs were about "Moscow". Tomorrow, God forbid, they hit the missile submarine bases, what will they say? That the missile carriers are obsolete? Or that there are no such fools who are ready to unleash World War III? Gentlemen propagandists, all this stinks and your articles are aimed at indirectly justifying the inaction and indifference of military officials. This can't be done, guys, you can screw up the country like that... By the way, T-62s are fighting in the SVO, they are not obsolete yet, are they?
    1. +2
      4 June 2025 11: 45
      Gentlemen propagandists, all this smells bad and your articles are aimed at indirectly justifying the inaction and indifference of military officials.
      The political worker carries out his direct functions.
    2. 0
      6 June 2025 10: 55
      The US and Russia have long been destroying strategic bombers by the hundreds under the START treaty. According to the new START, strategic nuclear forces must be further reduced. For Russia, it is most advantageous to reduce strategic aviation.
  28. +18
    4 June 2025 08: 07
    This began to remind me of something... Ah... It's like this... Bakhmut has no meaning... Lisichansk has no meaning... Well, and so on...
  29. +6
    4 June 2025 08: 07
    production of Tu-95... ceased and there is no doubt that it can be resumed.

    The author needs to pay close attention to semantics.
    1. +2
      4 June 2025 10: 47
      Chromis
      +3
      Today, 08: 07
      New
      production of the Tu-95... has been discontinued and there is no doubt that it can be resumed.
      The author needs to pay close attention to semantics.
      And less fantasy laughing
    2. +4
      4 June 2025 12: 20
      It can be resumed belay The AN-2 laughed quietly in the corner of the airfield.
  30. +10
    4 June 2025 08: 10
    It all reminds me of childhood - but it doesn't hurt me, the chicken is happy. Everything suddenly became outdated
  31. +8
    4 June 2025 08: 10
    It is possible to restore production, the planes and drawings for them are available. It's just that we have "effective managers" in power who can do nothing and don't want to do anything except embezzle money. And we have no analogue of this plane in terms of range and efficiency. And it is needed not only as a missile carrier, but also as a naval reconnaissance aircraft. And it could be adapted for something else. They just don't need it🤬
    1. +1
      4 June 2025 08: 20
      It doesn't need to be restored. But this damn PAK DA needs to be finally finished.
      Or, in general, to increase the satellite group and to them unmanned long-range missile carriers. Since we ourselves cannot think, we should do it like China.
  32. +17
    4 June 2025 08: 16
    From the title I understood that the author is Roman Skomorokhov.
    First: "Cry for him while he is alive" (c) Quoting does not tolerate liberties.
    Secondly, what is the point of this latest opus? Something like: "Smile and wave!"? Excellent canvas, a bird's truth, but nothing.
    Well, in conclusion. Our strategic nuclear forces were attacked. We have a nuclear doctrine, and our guarantor recently adjusted this doctrine, making it tougher. It turns out that he was just puffing out his cheeks once again. According to this doctrine, we must inevitably give a response, including using nuclear weapons. But so far there has been no response at all. Negotiations are renegotiating.
    I would like to repeat for the thousandth time - You don't negotiate with weak wimps. The weak are beaten and deceived. Deceived and beaten.
    Of course, I understand that the boyars are fighting... And the main thing for our elite is to keep what they have acquired beyond their means. But who will answer for all this obscenity? Who will answer for the blood of our citizens, civilians and soldiers?
  33. +17
    4 June 2025 08: 18
    Simple question: who is the main carrier of nuclear weapons by air for these countries? For the US it is the B-52
    B-52s make up only half of the US fleet. The other half are B-1Bs and B-2s (which are stealth). B-21s are coming.
    I wanted to write what I think about the author, but he has already been mixed up with... his article.
    1. +4
      4 June 2025 11: 48
      I wanted to write what I think about the author, but he has already been mixed up with... his article.
      + + + + + + + + + + + + + good Like table, like chair (medical proverb).
    2. 0
      6 June 2025 11: 00
      B-1B - is not a carrier of nuclear weapons, unlike B-52 and B-2. The main carrier is B-52
      1. +1
        6 June 2025 11: 37
        They simply removed the nuclear weapons suspension devices, according to the agreement with the USSR. But initially it was built as a nuclear weapons carrier, and if necessary, the necessary equipment can be installed again.
        1. +1
          6 June 2025 14: 12
          In theory and as a desperate measure, it is possible to install it. But it is not as simple and cheap as it may seem. B1-b are already very worn out. The logic now is as follows. They dismantle one plane to fix the second. They have been dreaming about upgrading to B1-r for 20 years. To integrate nuclear weapons, it is necessary to thoroughly physically and programmatically redesign the plane so that it "understands" through its communication protocols what and where it is dropping, whether a new bomb or missile will fly to the plane due to the lifting force...
          1. 0
            6 June 2025 18: 53
            Why is it that B-52s built in the 1950s fly like a glove, while B-1Bs built in the 1980s are suddenly so worn out?

            To integrate nuclear weapons, it is necessary to thoroughly redesign the aircraft physically and programmatically so that it “understands” through its communication protocols what and where it is dropping, whether a new bomb or missile will fly towards the aircraft due to the lifting force...
            Do you think that a missile launched from a B-52 or B-2, and flying where it should, when launched from a B-1B will suddenly fly back to the aircraft? :)))
  34. +12
    4 June 2025 08: 21
    Well, in the author's opinion, should we thank the Bandera fascists for recycling useless aviation junk? Is the author pretending to be a fool or is he fulfilling the task of "sweetening the pill"?
    1. 0
      6 June 2025 11: 10
      Who should we thank for the disposal of 90-300 American B-400 strategic bombers (roughly equivalent to the T-52) in the 95s? Under START-3, the destruction would have continued. The Russian Federation would have had to get rid of strategic bombers as the least useful carriers of nuclear weapons. That is why the planes were parked there, in order to carry out their reduction in full view of the United States. For the sake of PR, the Banderites got ahead of domestic disposal services.
      1. 0
        6 June 2025 12: 03
        Who should we thank for the disposal of 90-300 American B-400 strategic bombers in the 52s?
        What 300-400?! Only a hundred were removed from service. In 1988 there were 193 B-52, in 2012 - 94.
        1. +1
          6 June 2025 12: 46
          "Decommissioned" and "destroyed" are different concepts. Since 1952, more than 52 B-700s have been produced. Where did they disappear to? They disappeared as part of a simple procedure. First they were decommissioned, and then they were massively disposed of in the 90s. Active decommissioning took place during the START-1 negotiations. Mostly, other figures are given. At the beginning of 1992, the US had 159 B-52G and 95 B-52H = 254 aircraft in service.
          1. +1
            6 June 2025 18: 45
            At least 1992 were in service with the Strategic Air Command active inventory as of December 95. Of these, 74 were combat-ready. The rest were mothballed, under repair, or in training units.

            Quote: jnik
            More than 1952 B-52s have been produced since 700. Where have they gone?
            Some were shot down by the Vietnamese, some were written off.
            They also produced half a thousand Tu-95x, and by 1989 only 160 remained in service with long-range aviation.
  35. +10
    4 June 2025 08: 33
    Yeah, right! "The grapes are sour"! Grandpa Krylov wrote about that.
  36. -6
    4 June 2025 08: 37
    What does "destroyed" mean? A big question. In principle, if the powertrain is not damaged, then restoration is possible, of course with nuances. Let's say that military repairs are not possible, but there is a manufacturer and it does not matter how long it has not produced this aircraft. Perhaps the term "destroyed" is just hype.
    1. -1
      4 June 2025 11: 51
      Let's say that military repairs are not possible, but there is a manufacturing plant and it doesn't matter how long it hasn't produced this aircraft equipment.
      It is not a fact that even if the manufacturing plant has survived, the Tu-95 stocks and personnel have been preserved there.
    2. +2
      4 June 2025 12: 30
      Let's say that military repairs are not possible, but there is a manufacturing plant and it doesn't matter how long it hasn't produced this aircraft equipment.

      I'll ask a simple question: can the wiring in a modern car be restored after a "small fire"?
      and how much time and money will it cost?
      and what will the person who takes on such work say when it is finished???
      and you talk so easily about the Airplane!
      and this is not an AN-2, not at all...
    3. 0
      6 June 2025 12: 20
      95% of Tu-99s will not be restored. They were, in principle, going to be disposed of under an agreement with the US.
  37. +6
    4 June 2025 08: 38
    Because of the very existence of the TU-95, the enemy is forced to keep hundreds of multi-role fighters and dozens of Patriot batteries on its territory (you never know...), and here it turns out "sour grapes and nothing to worry about"
    1. -3
      4 June 2025 12: 32
      dozens of Patriot batteries on its territory

      Are you sure about this? Were you standing with a candle near the table with deployed maps of the deployment and instructions for action?
  38. BAI
    +4
    4 June 2025 08: 49
    So, at another airfield, a Tu 22m2 was lost
    1. +2
      4 June 2025 12: 28
      For the sake of replenishment, they will make a new one. For example, they will remove the fuselage from the pedestal in front of the main entrance of KAZ. The new fuselage has never flown there, they haven't even mounted the engines, it stood in the parking lot for 20 years until it got on the pedestal.
  39. +1
    4 June 2025 08: 50
    The only chance for the "Bears" is constant rotational patrolling near the borders of a potential enemy. Then, in case of a conflict, they will have time to shoot back before they are shot down. But this is a quick wear and tear, there are no new ones.
  40. +3
    4 June 2025 08: 52
    The article shows that Skomorokhov got "good" marks in literature at school! In any case, he learned the fable "The Fox and the Grapes" with "excellent" marks and is ready to explain all Russian problems with references to it! But why does he need this? For this [voicing the fable "The Fox and the Grapes" to the "all-Russian" people (as well as some other fables by Krylov) to explain problems of "all-Russian" scale] there is the Russian Ministry of Defense and the "supreme commander"!
  41. +7
    4 June 2025 08: 57
    They were unable to prevent the attack and destruction of the planes and an order was received to write "we don't really need these Tu-95s", or what? request
  42. +4
    4 June 2025 09: 15
    China has Tu-16/N-6... Tu-16 - 1952

    China has Xi'an H-6K - this is 2007.
  43. 0
    4 June 2025 09: 19
    Only the USA, Russia and China have full-fledged (in fact, not) nuclear triads.

    The author forgot about India, which has had a nuclear triad since 2016.
  44. +6
    4 June 2025 09: 19
    Again 25... Strategists are important and the damage from their destruction is tangible. It is necessary to understand that this is more than a deterrent force, but the authors of such articles clearly count on the readers' misunderstanding of this fact, to put it mildly. When strategists are in the air, on patrol, it cools hot heads quite well, doesn't it?
  45. +6
    4 June 2025 09: 44
    Ah, buffoons... another explanation of noodles, IMHO.

    There in the photo is its main advantage.
    almost simultaneous launch of 14 cruise missiles. 5 aircraft - 70 missiles. Already like a full-fledged American destroyer or half of the World Cup fleet.

    Considering that right now it is the missiles that are being modernized faster... what will happen there in 5 years... then a flying battery will not hurt in any case...
  46. +6
    4 June 2025 09: 44
    In Soviet times, Tu-95s patrolled the Atlantic, Pacific and Arctic Oceans with nuclear weapons, close to their targets. And the first missiles with nuclear warheads would have flown to the States from these missile carriers. That is why the US included in the treaty the visibility of these missile carriers at airfields, they consider these strategists dangerous for them, but Skomorokhov does not.
    1. 0
      4 June 2025 12: 01
      Quote: Konnick
      During the Soviet era, Tu-95s patrolled the Atlantic, Pacific and Arctic Oceans with nuclear weapons, close to their targets.

      If I remember correctly, the Yankees patrolled with nuclear weapons on board. And they regularly lost them.
      Ours flew empty, only with their appearance dictating its unyielding will to the rest of the world community ©. And during the period of threat, they "sat down on pits" to hang nuclear weapons.
  47. +7
    4 June 2025 09: 45
    The Tu-95MS has enough speed, it flies at 800 km/h, while the B-52 flies at 950. The importance of this aircraft is that it can reach the cruise missile launch range even without refueling in the air. This aircraft is not shot down in the Arctic, it easily goes into combat in the SP area and fires at probable targets from there. It is more difficult over the Pacific Ocean, but it is also realistic, in the event of war, probable ships will be attacked by anti-ship missiles. No matter what Skomorokhov sings, the loss of a Tu-95 is a loss. The Tu-160M2 is too expensive.
  48. 2al
    +7
    4 June 2025 09: 48
    The author is completely out of the loop that this is not Pearl Harbor, but the beginning of an unlimited terrorist war against the Russian Federation. That even without finishing off the Tu-95, they will start attacking Boeing and Airbus at airfields and attacking trains in the subway!? The entrances to the subway tunnels are not equipped with any anti-drone protection, not even nets, not to mention the entrances to the subway stations. There is no doubt that, as after the Civil War in the USSR, the Entente countries will organize an all-out terrorist war.
    1. -1
      4 June 2025 10: 41
      Quote: 2al
      The Entente countries organize a total terrorist war

      Entente is a beautiful word, but you shouldn't use it if you have a vague idea of ​​its meaning.
      Just for reference:
      The Entente (from the French entente - agreement, consent) is a military-political bloc Russian Empire, Great Britain and France
      Will Russia attack Russia?
      1. 2al
        +1
        4 June 2025 13: 37
        For reference, the Entente fought with the RSFSR (since July 19, 1918) and other republics on the territory of the Russian Empire, and not with the Russian Empire.
    2. 0
      4 June 2025 12: 35
      The author is completely out of the loop that this is not, in fact, Pearl Harbor, but the beginning of an unlimited terrorist war against the Russian Federation.

      and this one - Exactly! or as they say "right in the hole"!
  49. +5
    4 June 2025 09: 57
    terminated and there is no doubt that it can be resumed

    Author, do you understand what to write?
    It turns out that "it's a crap issue, they will 100% restore production."
  50. +5
    4 June 2025 10: 00
    Definitely needed and this is an irreparable loss. In case of a nuclear conflict, the enemy will have one less headache when tracking launches. It would be a good step for Russia to quickly resurrect the PAK DA program and make new aircraft in the shortest possible time. Russia would then show that it is ready to quickly restore its potential. Well, and another point. Today they knocked out our strategic aviation, and tomorrow they will start zeroing out submarines? Will we start drawing red lines again??? The problem is extremely serious.
  51. +11
    4 June 2025 10: 03
    How Skomorokhov "elegantly" solved the issue of destroying the "strategists"! ("They weren't really needed!" - sounds in the context of the article!) But they are needed! They are needed as air platforms - carriers of "large-sized" ammunition and other ammunition in large quantities and at a "decent" distance! They are needed to destroy the base of the "Papuans" who attacked the Russian embassy or tourists in a distant country to the ground! To discourage other "natives" from timid, but already vile thoughts! The SVO in the 21st century is demonstrating some signs of not only WW2, but even WW1! Stronghold areas, "fortresses"! There was a need for heavy artillery! Or "at least" in ballistic missiles with "multi-ton" warheads! But there are "nuances" here too! Another way to solve "anti-fortification" issues is heavy aviation, as a carrier of "heavy" ammunition! Of which the Tu-95, with the necessary equipment, can take... "quite a bit"!
  52. -6
    4 June 2025 10: 23
    there is a tu 160, which is just as huge but fast) this gift will be delivered in time and they haven't forgotten how to do it
  53. +9
    4 June 2025 10: 35
    And here is the first swallow...)
    I didn't have to wait long for publications to appear, explaining in a popular way that nothing terrible had happened, that these strategists weren't needed, that..., that...
    There is always someone who will clearly explain that black is white, and we are all idiots because we don’t see it.
    After all, sanctions are exclusively beneficial for us, and it turns out that the strategists are completely outdated, and we need to express gratitude to the Ukrainian Armed Forces for their help in disposing of...
    What will we hear tomorrow?
  54. 0
    4 June 2025 10: 42
    The message is clear and even generally worthy of agreement, but the logic is sometimes far-fetched:
    Quote: article
    That's right. In the event of a global conflict, the launch and spreading of all Tu-95s across the map will cause a response: tracking will begin of where each aircraft is flying, determining the probable launch area, after the launch they will track the missiles...

    In my opinion, it's a great diversionary maneuver. And under its cover, a pair of missile submarines will fire a salvo from an area that wasn't under close surveillance.

    It's like writing that flies are useful because you put mosquito nets on your windows, while ants run through a hole in the floor and eat all the sugar. What's the connection between these things? request There are people there to watch the flies and the ants. They've all been registered for a long time. But that's okay, and a little further
    Quote: article
    But let's be mature: there will be no war with the US. Under no circumstances, for a number of reasons. And there will be no global slaughter with NATO, especially in Europe (although Europe should be cleansed of these inhumans once again), no matter what the Macrons do.

    Come on. There will be no WW3. "We won't bang." The world is not in smithereens. Then why conduct such diversionary maneuvers? request
    Indeed, as many say, it is high time to demote the Tu-95 from the "strategist": there is no possibility to use it in this way, the "stone age" is over, but the "stones" remain. Now it is just an airplane with a long range and bomb load. A long-range bomber/missile carrier (1st stage returning to the airfield). Like the B-52, Tu-160, B-1... It is no longer suitable for the main purpose of its creation. But they have found (or can still find) other useful tasks for themselves. And the parallels with the "Moscow" are not accidental... "For another war". Which has not been and will not be. The main property of these airplanes (and other nuclear weapons) - to scare - worked for the benefit of the country for a long time, but everything passes someday...
    Quote: article
    And the fact that the neighbors worked on them - I honestly admit that if they had gone through the bomber regiments with Su-34s like that, it would have been very noticeable.

    Or at the plant that produces them, or at the pilot training center...
  55. 0
    4 June 2025 10: 59
    The equipment may be outdated morally and technically, but in the absence of other models, any loss is a very expensive action for the economy and defense capability. Of course, ideally, a new model and a full production cycle are required, and let the old ones live out their post. request
  56. +3
    4 June 2025 11: 15
    The plane is good - ideal for leisurely patrols along the border with equipment and for launching missiles in local conflicts in Europe and Asia. And in case of World War III, everything should fly from everywhere.
  57. +5
    4 June 2025 11: 22
    "B-52 - 1952, Tu-16 - 1952, Tu-95 is younger - 1956." - The author is either deliberately misleading, or does not understand the difference between the Tu-95 and Tu-95MS, and accordingly the years of their production. If the first, then the author is a provocateur, if the second, then why write about something you do not understand? "Ancient aircraft with more or less modern weapons" is B-52, they are all already 60+, but this does not bother the mattresses. This article smells of ...
  58. +3
    4 June 2025 11: 26
    I remember something similar after the "bang, smoke and flooding" of the cruiser "Moscow" - "it sank and thank God". Now the bombers are no longer needed.
    If they were useless, the Americans would not have started developing the B-21.
    1. 0
      4 June 2025 12: 45
      The US is crawling into every hole... and with the Papuans in the middle of nowhere and with the Chinese! And we only fight with a high-tech enemy right next door.)
  59. +3
    4 June 2025 11: 26
    The author's surname fully corresponds to the presented material... no, there are already a lot of posts from the guards, but not to such an extent...
  60. -1
    4 June 2025 11: 38
    I agree with the author regarding the rather skeptical attitude towards the Tu-95. One of the advantages of the machine (for now) is that after its takeoff it (in theory) can stay in the air for quite a long time - which (theoretically) is useful in a threatening period because it creates uncertainty.
    The "we can bomb a banana state" style of benefit also makes me skeptical. Nobody has cancelled arms sales - there are now enough parties in the world that, in the absence of practical international agreements on arms sales, supply almost anything to almost anywhere. Systems like FrankenSAM show that, given the desire and resources, it is quite possible to whip up a system "from what's available" in a fairly short time. In the future, this trend will worsen because reprogramming an air defense system based on changing the program is much easier than creating a new air defense - and it is generally critical for the enemy to have more or less modern missiles, and it can create or adapt a launch system for them.

    That is, it may or may not bomb. Not to mention the potentially unpleasant developments of UAV interceptors for cruise missiles.

    So, the theoretical usefulness of such products is represented by only two points - as I see it. 1 - some increase in the uncertainty factor in the threatening period. However, this should not be overestimated - the machines are slow. 2 - theoretically they can be a platform for large future hypersonic air-based systems. Against the background of turbojet strategists, in general, they are a completely budget option for throwing mass from the surface to a certain height.
    But all this will be objectively useful only in one case - if we play "white" or if our intelligence really determines the enemy side's plans in advance.
  61. +1
    4 June 2025 11: 48
    All bombers, especially strategic ones, have very powerful electronic warfare and electronic countermeasures as defensive means, this is true all over the world, and if they were useless, they would not have been modernized. According to the author, they are not needed at all, but this is your personal opinion, the General Staff thinks differently.
  62. +1
    4 June 2025 11: 58
    North. It's about the same in the North: they'll let you take off, but nothing more. To fly over the Arctic Ocean to the US launch area, you have to cover many hundreds of kilometers. But the 95s won't be allowed to cover them, they'll just shoot them down. There's a great airfield in Kirkenes, there's a US airbase in Rovaniemi, and all of this is within half an hour of flight for either the F-15 or the F-16.

    The East remains. The following scheme is obtained: the Tu-95s must take off from an airfield in the Amur Region and either fly over their own territory to Kamchatka, from where they will try to reach the enemy's territory, or fly over the Pacific Ocean in the direction of North America.

    Is there nothing else between the Kola Peninsula and the Amur Region? Where did this idea come from that the Tu-95 in which case will take off from peacetime airfields?
    Tu-95MS definitely visited Anadyr. And Vorkuta too.
    The main problem with the Tu-95 is that it is huge and slow. It can be seen from space, and its takeoff is detected even by those who don't need it. And its unhurried flight allowed its neighbors to determine the direction of missile strikes and try to counter them.

    When working on the main profile, this will no longer matter. Because the enemy's air defense will be out of action by the time the ALCM carriers approach. crawling on the floor, picking up broken teeth with broken fingers in an extremely upset state after the arrival of the ICBM and SLBM warheads. In addition, long-range detection and radio communications in the Arctic are extremely difficult even in peacetime, and after numerous Starfish Prime, the radar and communications may completely fail. So for the Tu-95MS, when approaching from the north, there is a chance to shoot back.
  63. +1
    4 June 2025 12: 01
    It is outrageous that civilians and police armed with small arms are trying to protect a military facility with strategic combat aircraft as best they can, while our military sleeps peacefully!!! - I hope that the shoulder straps and stripes will fly off soon - this indifference must end!
  64. +4
    4 June 2025 12: 02
    Now they'll drag it out that the Tu-95 is useless and that's all. Tomorrow they'll blow up the Crimean bridge and say that we don't need it at all.
  65. +2
    4 June 2025 12: 12
    I read from here to here If it reaches, of course, but the missile won't reach, because Europe is full of modern and effective air defense systems. So the West is closed. and I realized that it was not worth reading further, just in case I went to see who the author of this opus was? And yes, I was right, there is no point in reading this..
  66. +2
    4 June 2025 12: 16
    We need to adapt the missiles for the Su34, which will have a range of 500-1000 km and a warhead of 500-1,000 kg.

    NATO aircraft can carry 3 Storm Shadows, we need an analogue superior to Taurus. Let it be even heavier - Su-34 can carry it, because it carries FAB-3000.

    Flying these huge Tu-22s for targets like Ukraine and missile range of 1,000 km is unnecessary. And there are a lot of Su-34s and they are still being produced and they are not tracked.
  67. -5
    4 June 2025 12: 38
    I completely agree with the author! And the Airborne Forces, as a branch of the military, will no longer exist - infantry. Therefore, take an example from the USA...thousands of containers in concrete with 9M723 along the border perimeter with an already filled flight mission.
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  69. +2
    4 June 2025 12: 48
    The author is certainly very strange... I don't know the level of his military education BUT it can be noted that he is not familiar with the plans for the deployment and use of nuclear weapons at all, because each type of carrier is assigned quite adequate (quickly adjusted with changes in the situation) tasks both at the deterrence stage and at the use stage
    A nod to the magnificent air defense of Europe (applause from the NATO joint headquarters on the continent) is highly debatable, and given the priority suppression of the Vanguard command posts (this is minutes, not hours), it is not a topic at all.
    In addition to Olenegorsk, there are other airfields in the northern part of the country at varying levels of readiness.
    An ambivalent feeling remains from this kind of naive logic of belittling the role of strategic aviation
  70. +8
    4 June 2025 12: 56
    After reading the article, the inevitable conclusion is that other means of the Russian nuclear triad are not really needed. It is easier to secretly and covertly throw a couple of nuclear charges into the territory of a potential enemy in advance and wait for the right moment.

    This is already self-justifying insanity.
    1. +2
      4 June 2025 14: 16
      It is easier to secretly and covertly throw a couple of nuclear charges into the territory of a potential enemy in advance and wait for the right moment.

      First they threw their villas and children there. And somewhere there in these villas the children of the elite under deep cover are definitely creating nuclear charges behind enemy lines. Otherwise the unconscious public is slandering our elite, not knowing all the details of the cunning plans.
  71. 0
    4 June 2025 12: 57
    Quote: Grencer81
    So if you take the genealogy of these "graduates", it turns out that every father is a businessman, every mother is a director of something or other... In the USSR, the special services recruited people of working peasant origin and working intelligentsia, who were studied for more than one year before "men in gray" approached them and offered training with subsequent "employment"...
    And now the main thing is that... The pocket has a good shovel...

    Unfortunately, you are right. I remember how in the late 80s the son of the ever-memorable Gavriil Popov came to study at the F.E. Dzerzhinsky Higher Komsomol School of the KGB of the USSR. To be fair, he did not study for long... bully
  72. -1
    4 June 2025 13: 13
    The author is a good fellow, if only because he is forced to, and reads the strangest critical notes.
    Regarding the TU-95, it can be said that after the destruction of the USSR industry, nothing similar threatens us in terms of aircraft construction. Commentators are delirious about the strategy and tactics of their use.
    In my opinion, the conclusion is obvious. A deep modernization of the carriers in terms of weapons is needed (it's time to fire the old cruise missiles at "SVO" targets), especially since there are visible reserves for new weapons (unify with the PK DA). The unique platform allows it to be used for new tasks (anti-submarine warfare, etc.).
    1. 0
      4 June 2025 18: 01
      What are you going to hit with strategists? The Tu-22M3 launches cruise missiles just fine and even the Su-34 can be hung up if necessary.
      1. +1
        4 June 2025 18: 59
        Quote: Victor Sergeev
        What are you going to hit with strategists? The cruise missiles launch the Tu-22M3 just fine

        Will the Tu-22M3 be able to lift, carry to the launch zone and launch 14 ALCMs?
  73. +2
    4 June 2025 14: 03
    when they forget to add ms to 95, it distorts the picture, because ms is the "son" of not even 95, but 142, so the project is clearly not 56 years old, and the oldest ms is younger than the youngest b52, and why take off to the pole near the Norwegians, and not from the Amur, slap along the meridian and not to Kamchatka? so as a carrier of cruise missiles, and if the b52 lasts longer than the b1b for the Americans, then perhaps the 95ms will last longer than the 160, because due to the variable-sweep wing they should have similar problems
  74. +4
    4 June 2025 14: 13
    Indeed, production of the Tu-95 at Plant No. 18 in Kuibyshev (the city changed its name to Samara, and the plant was renamed a dozen times) has ceased and there is no doubt that it can be resumed.

    Yes, the whole country made a new maize-grower here, but they couldn't do it, having poured tens of billions into the development. And we'll immediately resume the Tu-95, there are no questions about that. In general, the idea is correct and reassuringly true. The bears are old and unnecessary, the stupid enemy worked on recycling for us. And if necessary, the bears will give birth to more. So of course we will win.
  75. +4
    4 June 2025 14: 19
    "The production of Tu-95 at Plant No. 18 in Kuibyshev (the city changed its name to Samara, and the plant was renamed a dozen times) has been stopped and there is no doubt that it can be resumed."

    There is no doubt to the contrary. This is an irreparable loss in the full sense of the word. And the cries - what's the point of four planes - we can do it again! only cause yawning. The An-2 cannot be repeated yet, despite the billions already spent on "Baikal" and allocated for further improvement of the promising project. Surprisingly, "Buran" happened when "effective managers" had not yet been born...
  76. +3
    4 June 2025 14: 39
    Where was this article written? In the Pentagon? Only the enemy can convince us that the TU-95 is old junk that is not a pity!!!
  77. 0
    4 June 2025 15: 14
    The idea is that strategic bombers are no longer needed?
    What will any OLS detect and accompany the CR?
    What is the Tu-95? Essentially a flying platform from which cruise missiles can be launched, increasing their range.
    Both the Tu-22 and the Tu-95 are no longer produced after the collapse of the USSR, they are only being modernized. PAK DA is still only a project. Do we need strategists or not?
    It is difficult to shoot down a cruise missile because it has turning points, avoiding entering the air defense zone.
  78. +7
    4 June 2025 15: 18
    Otherwise, the Tu-95 is an absolutely outdated aircraft that does not meet modern requirements.

    It started, and now we don't need a missile carrier anymore... I generally think we don't need anything other than turbo-"patriots" on the ZP...
  79. +1
    4 June 2025 15: 55
    The Tu-95 is an absolutely outdated aircraft and does not meet modern requirements.

    Well, at least it can be used for pinpoint finishing blows, like the misericord for knights.
    After a global exchange of strikes, many air defense systems will be heavily damaged, and the radiation background will also make it very difficult to track and target countermeasures.
    In such conditions, a precision missile strike, even with slow missiles, would have a very strong result.
    If they, the Tu-95, and other strategists, survive until this moment. what
  80. +2
    4 June 2025 16: 57
    But let's be mature: there will be no war with the US. Under no circumstances, for a number of reasons. And there will be no global slaughter with NATO, especially in Europe.
    Yes, author, most likely the Russian Federation will be surrendered without war. You know that.
  81. +1
    4 June 2025 17: 56
    As soon as we left the treaties with the US, strategists are not needed at all. Now the cruise missiles can be made land-based. It is the US that should tremble, since strategists are rather in their favor, allowing them to be recalled, but not the missile, and what if there is a mistake?
    1. +1
      4 June 2025 19: 02
      Quote: Victor Sergeev
      As soon as we left the treaties with the US, strategists are not needed at all. Now the cruise missiles can be made land-based.

      Yes, it is possible. But their range is only 2500 km. After that there are perversions like Lavochkin's "Burya".
      Plus, one Tu-95MS is equivalent to a missile brigade in terms of salvo, and in terms of transfer speed, ground-based systems have no analogues at all.
  82. G17
    +6
    4 June 2025 18: 01
    I am not impressed by the logic of the author of the article. I wonder what if Ukrainians smashed our submarine strategic missile carrier or land-based "Topol" or "Yars"? Probably an article would have appeared that all this is long outdated and unnecessary, but the Tu-95 and Tu-160 are our everything. But since they hit the Tu-95, it turned out to be bad and unnecessary. Let's be honest - our nuclear shield cracked on June 1. The whole country is waiting for a real "retaliatory strike" against the enemy, and not tales that the Tu-95 is last century.
    1. +2
      4 June 2025 21: 09
      Let's be honest - our nuclear shield cracked on June 1st.

      It wasn't the shield that cracked, but the matrix of illusions that had been professionally and effectively built for decades for the people, and people are happy to still be in it so as not to ruin their digestion and sleep. And the crack ruins the quality of the picture in the simulator of how wonderful everything is, Marquise.
    2. 0
      5 June 2025 14: 39
      As Kargapolov said, there are no resources for an effective response.
  83. +2
    4 June 2025 18: 28
    I look forward to Skomorokhov's identical article about the Tu-22M3.
  84. 0
    4 June 2025 18: 59
    Comparison with TB-3 is justified.
  85. +2
    4 June 2025 19: 53
    .. a very slow plane with slow missiles..

    Let's assume. And the four lost TU-22M3s are also "absolutely obsolete"?!
  86. -1
    4 June 2025 19: 55
    Why does the author write about the loss of four, if most domestic media write about six? (I won't even mention Western media)
    1. +1
      5 June 2025 12: 34
      because 4 are tu95 and the other 2 are tu22
  87. +3
    4 June 2025 19: 58
    Well, first of all, the author has outdated information. The B21 has been flying and being tested for a long time.
    Next. Is this a coincidence, or did the order "not to praise" the Tu95, X55 and 101 come from the top immediately after 01.06.25?
    Well, and in the 3rd. I don't know about the USSR, but in America during the Cold War, strategists were given the role of the "second wave" to finish off the remaining 20% ​​of targets. It was assumed that by the time the B52 took off, most of the enemy's radars and military airfields were completely or almost completely disabled. That's when subsonic strategists were needed, each carrying 16 cruise missiles (versus 8 for the Tu-95)
  88. +2
    4 June 2025 20: 01
    Once again, the author covers up for the Russian government and its brainless management. The article is smeared, proving the uselessness of the Tu-95 in a modern war. The Tu-95 is a weapon carrier, not a weapon. This is where you should analyze the need for the Tu-95. Equip the Tu-95 with missiles that have a speed of "fast hypersonic" and a range of 10-15 thousand km. The Tu-95 has one task - to rise to altitude and fly to the launch point of the missiles. If the plane has missiles that have a speed of 20 Machs and a range of 15 thousand km, then the Tu-95 will reach any enemy state on Earth. So, Mr. Author, you need to discuss the issue of the lack of missiles needed for the Tu-95. The losses of aircraft are huge and irreparable. No need to talk crap.
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    2. -1
      5 June 2025 14: 36
      How many Machs does the newest missile have, and how many does an airplane have, how long does it have to fly to the "point"? This is not an exercise, it is meant to be a war.
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  90. 0
    4 June 2025 21: 39
    Well, tell someone 10 years ago about drones - they would have laughed. They were rare, quite expensive. And now?


    The mentally retarded, criminal Russian generals laughed like crazy. They laughed their heads off. The result is obvious. And what's offensive is that the imbeciles have an honorary pension. But they should be stripped of all privileges and pay, and demoted to the level of privates. These imbecile saboteurs were incapable of more. But the whole army marched on the parade ground and painted the grass...
  91. +1
    4 June 2025 22: 37
    The author is immediately and unconditionally recognized. Today he is Kot-Bayun, which is not the first time.
    R.V.S., a graphomaniac and ignoramus who has repeatedly amazed his audience with paradoxical theories and conclusions, distinguished himself again.
    Take away R.V.'s keyboard. There are many weak minds in Rus' who accept Roman's false theories and conclusions on blind faith. And this plays into the hands of our country's enemies.
  92. +1
    4 June 2025 23: 25
    "Otherwise, the Tu-95 is an absolutely outdated aircraft and does not meet modern requirements."

    Should we take the author seriously after these words? The author, for example, does not consider the option in which the Tushkas can launch cruise missiles at northern Europe from the northern seas and for this it needs to maintain echeloned air defense there. That is, several dozen 95x force partners to smear defense and constantly be on edge.
    The loss of even a few Tu-95s is a significant loss, and now the wear and tear on the remaining aircraft will increase by an order of magnitude.
  93. +1
    5 June 2025 02: 36
    I started reading and suddenly I realized... Skomorokhov! I didn't read any further!
  94. +1
    5 June 2025 05: 25
    Quote: shocktrooper
    What the hell kind of cowardice do pilots have? What are these strange fantasies for? Pilots are some of the most valuable and, most importantly, hard-to-replace specialists. Let me remind you of the effectiveness of those "Stalin's Falcons" with their couple-month courses, with the exception of the unique ones who were lucky enough to survive and had time to gain experience. What are the survival statistics of the same IL? Or, even better, the effectiveness of their strikes, the number of friendly fires, etc. And this is taking into account how much of the Luftwaffe's strength was diverted to the Mediterranean and then the second front with strategic bombing, and the degenerate strategy of the Luftwaffe in general. Heroism begins where the ability to plan command ends, and to boast that more people died there is just some kind of butcher's delirium. And why don't our pilots fly behind the tape now, heroically collecting missiles from all Western systems - well, first show me our SIGINT and EW aircraft, our new anti-aircraft missiles, our integrated control and target designation systems for the Air Force, our satellite constellation with all the support for constant reconnaissance and reconnaissance of enemy systems, our new low-observable aircraft, preferably with a level of visibility like the Americans, and so on and so forth, which the Israelis actively use in their operations. That's why they fly, because all this is there and the risk of such operations is minimal. And without all this, blaming the pilots for not flying to the slaughter for the sake of taking a strategically important cowshed and fulfilling your butcher's fantasies is nonsense. However, this is your old tradition - to blame the performers for everything, and not the system, it is always the stationmaster who is to blame for a train wreck, he was not "heroic" enough, you understand.

    Well, yes, I still have to give you the title of Hero of the Russian Federation and the honorary lawyer of the Russian Air Force. sad
  95. +1
    5 June 2025 05: 30
    It doesn't matter how outdated the planes were at the bases. What matters is how the service at these bases is organized. The video of the attack shows that we simply don't have any military personnel at our military bases. It's time to put pensioners with shotguns and fire extinguishers on guard duty, and one rickety fire truck per base. The effect will be 100 times greater. I sincerely wish all the officers who screwed up the equipment with their arrogant command in Moscow, along with the crews of these burnt-out planes, at the very least, to resign from the military and not disgrace Russia anymore!
    1. 0
      5 June 2025 12: 33
      if mobile internet and communication were constantly turned off within a radius of 50 km, we wouldn't get anywhere at all
  96. 0
    5 June 2025 11: 21
    Author! And the AN-2 sort of went into production in 1948. But it turns out it's needed because we can't create anything better. And the TU-160, sort of from the same "series", but it's needed.
    1. 0
      5 June 2025 14: 31
      What does it have to do with it? Baikal flies, and they are improving it.
  97. -1
    5 June 2025 14: 30
    Even to me, a "couch potato", it is clear how unsuitable these machines are for modern warfare. But this Ukrainian action was very necessary. So, there is some benefit from it. If, of course, Russian strategists are capable of drawing conclusions.
  98. +1
    5 June 2025 18: 23
    Who knows who knows...
    There is always a use for such a barn, once it exists.
    How did you find a use for portable temporary houses?
    For example, what if, instead of X101 missiles, such a bear pours a handful of hundreds or so UAVs with splashdown systems and releases half a thousand UAVs for a coordinated simultaneous attack in a swarm on an object of interest, say, at a distance of 600 kilometers from an aircraft carrier or base?
    Here, of course, our Starlink is needed for such a thing, plus AI elements, but they will be there, no need to go to grandma. But to deliver all this to the place faster than such an aircraft can do by ships or barges. And to overload anyone with such an attack at the moment.
    Even if this never happens in combat mode, even successful exercises of this kind will force us to reconsider many things: how many bases do some people have around the world?
  99. 0
    5 June 2025 19: 30
    Well, there will be no war with the US. Under no circumstances.

    What a strangely sober thought. It's even unusual to read something like this here.
  100. 0
    5 June 2025 20: 22
    Reading this article and the comments, I feel like I'm walking down a long corridor with many doors for arguments, either with the author or with our Internet fighters. Along the way, I learned that this is a nice big slow-flying object, capable of carrying Kh missiles, which have great power but, unfortunately, also low flight speed. And what's more, it is absolutely not obsolete, because its missiles are best used disguised as Iskander, Kinzai or Geran. So there is no need to stay in the confessional to wipe someone's face with a wet rag, and also to avoid a political comrade who screams about the greatest failure of typical anti-scientific empiricism. In the end, I still can't understand a few problems: if it plays a secondary role in tactical combined air combat, why should the kho-hol have attacked it most of all, and not the Su-34 regiments, not to mention that the Tu-160s were not damaged? As for the START treaty, if it is easy to track from the moment of takeoff and can be seen from space, then why does the other side of the treaty insist on keeping it open at the airfield? I would be glad if someone could help explain.
    1. +2
      6 June 2025 20: 19
      It is important to remember that the TU-95 was originally designed to deliver free-fall bombs, but when they became irrelevant, it was adapted to carry cruise missiles. Cruise missiles, unlike bombs, can be launched from the ground and then launch a missile from a ground installation is an order of magnitude easier than from an airplane, and an airfield is not needed, but in general, for an airplane launch, a missile goes a long way, a manufacturer, a railroad, or other type of transport, an airfield warehouse and finally suspension on the aircraft (plus refueling the aircraft itself), and the aircraft is large and is constantly tracked by satellites and again it is large it cannot be hidden or protected properly. By the way, when an aircraft is just parked, you cannot launch a missile from it, and the weather is not flying, in general this is a troublesome business strategic aviation, it would probably be much easier to put packages with cruise missiles on a railway platform, for example, 4 pieces each and one train will replace an unknown number of aircraft.
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      1. 0
        7 June 2025 08: 23
        Thank you very much for your clarification. Now I am even more convinced that the loss of 8 Tu-95 and some other heavy bombers is far from an irreparable catastrophe.