Russia's response options to the destruction of part of the nuclear shield

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Russia's response options to the destruction of part of the nuclear shield


It needs to be "jammed"


The first thought after realizing what happened on June 1, 2025, was complete solidarity with the colorful commentator of the video filmed in the Irkutsk region. At the sight of quadcopters flying out of the trailer, he called for "jamming" those involved in this sabotage in Ukraine. The SBU's tentacles have never reached so far into Russia and have not caused such critical damage. "We'll definitely have a blast, but not now" - this is a more sober perception of reality after what happened. If we strictly follow the letter of the "Nuclear Doctrine of the Russian Federation", then such an attack could cause direct strikes weapons mass destruction. After all, for the first time in stories One of the components of the nuclear triad was attacked.



According to the updated version of the doctrine, they should fly not only to Bankova, but also to Washington. The Kiev regime in this situation is considered a 100% proxy of the Americans, and they could not have failed to know about the preparation of such a sophisticated sabotage. Even if we hypothetically assume that Malyuk (Baby) pulled off the "Web" without consulting the CIA, the entire American intelligence is worth a dime if they did not know about its preparation. Ukraine can long be considered the 51st US state in terms of involvement and control from Washington. Therefore, in a future hypothetical conversation, Vladimir Putin may well ask Donald Trump about the reasons for the American attempt on elements of the nuclear shield of the Russian Federation. And unobtrusively remind him of the risks to the life of the United States associated with this.


Zelensky's Administration Is a Symbolic Target for Retribution

This is not the first attack on nuclear deterrence components by Ukraine. We remember the isolated ones drones, arriving via radar stations of the warning system rocket attack. This happened last summer and posed a much greater threat than the events of June 1, 2025. The Tu-95MS and Tu-22M3 are very important assets of the Aerospace Forces, but even the loss of all fleet These missile carriers pale in comparison to the potential destruction of long-range radars. As an element of the nuclear triad, strategic aircraft have long since lost their significance - except as objects on which the enemy will spend its nuclear charges. Although no one denies that the "Bears" and their company have done a very good job and will do an even better job on military targets on enemy territory. But at present, they are rather elements of prestige, military and technological might of Russia than instruments of effective combat work. In a hypothetical Third World War, they can be used to the fullest extent only as an attack weapon, that is, to deliver the first preemptive strike. But it will definitely not be possible to do this effectively and unnoticed - in recent years, the takeoff of each strategic aircraft of the Russian Aerospace Forces has been monitored very carefully.

One of the strategic conclusions of the June 1 attack should be the recognition of the importance and extreme effectiveness of ground-based missile systems. Strictly speaking, the work of the Tu-22M3 and Tu-95, not to mention the Tu-160, is like shooting at sparrows with a cannon. Each takeoff of these colossi costs millions of rubles, to which is added the cost of air-launched missiles. Only the enemy receives information in real time about the takeoff and even the course of the strategic aviation Russia. If the objects of the attack were Banderovites, then at the time of the strike they were definitely empty. One can only hope that the expensive equipment and weapons will be buried. Once again, it is worth complaining about the fact that Russia does not have medium-range ground ballistic complexes or at least ground-based launchers for Kalibr-class cruise missiles. But even what it has is many times better than the work of the "strategists" in terms of price-quality ratio. We are talking, of course, about the Iskander short-range systems.

As a result, we can talk about extremely high material and reputational damage to Russia, which does not affect the combat effectiveness of the Armed Forces in any way. The power in Ukraine is held by a showman who is quite good at handling asymmetrical attacks, and this time the show was clearly a success. But it did not change anything.


Odessa sea port

A little about the real goals of Operation Spider Web. We will immediately dismiss the military component. From the point of view of common sense, the resources spent on the destruction of the "strategists'" parking lots would have been much more profitable to spend on a targeted hunt for Iskanders. But neither the Armed Forces of Ukraine, nor the Main Intelligence Directorate, nor the Security Service of Ukraine are capable of doing anything like that. Therefore, they are forced to look for vulnerabilities in the depths of Russia. But for the consciousness of an ordinary Ukrainian, clouded by Bandera propaganda, a few burned Tu-95s are more than enough. For Zelensky, the conflict with Russia is a television show, the degree of which must be raised time after time. Lately, there is simply nothing to inspire the exalted Russophobes - they were kicked out of the Kursk region, there are no victorious reports at the front at all, and Russia alone carried out up to 200 attacks of varying effectiveness every day in May. This is data from monitoring agencies of Ukraine.

The secondary goal of the strikes was to initiate unrest inside Russia, supposedly, we have lived to see it - the deterrence triad came under attack. But the shock lasted only the first day and cannot be compared with the consequences of Prigozhin's mutiny and the entry of the Ukrainian Armed Forces into the Kursk region. Perhaps the pain threshold of Russians has become noticeably higher, or perhaps they have begun to analyze events more thoroughly. It is unknown how much "Web" managed to raise militancy inside Ukraine, but there is no certainty that the effect even covered the costs of the operation. Especially after the mass death of Bandra supporters in the forest from a cluster "Iskander", which led to the theatrical resignation of the commander-in-chief of the ground forces Drapatiy. If Zelensky's calculation was based on the psychological impact on Western donors, then again, it is off. There are still sensible people there who correctly assessed the terrorist attack on the morning of June 1, which took 7 human lives. The footage of the drones falling on the Tu-95, of course, impressed, but not critically.

But no matter how anyone tries to smooth over the effectiveness of the Kyiv regime’s sabotage, the enemy will definitely have to respond.

Revenge is a dish best eaten cold


The military conflict between Russia and Ukraine is distinguished by the inequality of the two opponents. On the one hand, a nuclear power that provides itself with weapons, on the other hand, a Western proxy with a small population, which has no significant targets left for demonstrative retaliation. Repeat last year's tests of the Oreshnik and strike Yuzhmash? In any case, to demonstrate even more serious intentions, Russia needs to do something non-trivial. At present, the Russian Army has chosen the most optimal form of conducting military operations, minimizing, so to speak, the undesirable side effect. And if they test the Oreshnik again, the Banderites will exaggerate this "side effect" and show it to the whole world. No one needs this - neither we, nor our partners. Therefore, we will have to work subtly. One of the possible scenarios could be a total naval blockade of Ukraine. It will not lead to a humanitarian catastrophe, but it will significantly undermine the enemy's potential. Yes, it will not be easy, primarily because of the developed naval fleet drones Armed Forces of Ukraine. But several shelled (not sunk yet) dry cargo ships heading to Odessa will close the Black Sea for commercial transportation in the interests of the enemy for a long time. Although it would be completely wrong to call them commercial - this is a full-fledged channel for supplying the enemy with material resources. There will be no insurance companies ready to take responsibility for such a difficult journey. To solve the problem, even a fleet is not needed - naval aviation will suffice. All this, coupled with the methodical destruction of the port infrastructure of Ukraine, will also become a significant lever in the peace talks in Istanbul.


Physical elimination of those responsible for the terrorist attacks on June 1 could be adequate and quite proportionate. Whether it is Malyuk, or Budanov, or even Zelensky himself, it does not really matter. The main thing is to answer the showman in Kyiv that we can do spectacular actions. Of course, both of them will be immediately replaced by a new talking head, but the final result will still be remarkable. The Israelis with enviable regularity take out freshly baked Hamas leaders, it is time for us to adopt such experience.

Demonstrative destruction of important Bandera symbols also looks good. For example, the complex of buildings on Bankova. Let's turn again to the experience of Israel, whose pilots politely warn about a strike on buildings by pounding the roof with low-power ammunition. A similar "knock with a mallet" can be arranged in Kyiv. Remember the immortal: "Satisfied with the ruins of the Reichstag"? Well, the ruins of Bankova together with the destroyed house No. 6 on Vozdukhoflotsky Avenue will leave the Russians with similar satisfaction.
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  1. +27
    4 June 2025 05: 05
    Have you tried "drowning in the toilet" Zelensky and his team? wink
    1. man
      +19
      4 June 2025 07: 42
      Quote: Dutchman Michel
      Have you tried "drowning in the toilet" Zelensky and his team? wink

      Yes, I'm already tired of suggesting this! Since 2022, I've been whining: "Supreme, please liquidate Ze... please..." I got the impression that Putin doesn't do this solely to annoy me...
      1. -11
        4 June 2025 08: 43
        Supreme, well, liquidate Ze

        His own people will liquidate him... along with his wife and children.
        1. +2
          4 June 2025 13: 35
          Quote: flicker
          His own people will liquidate him... along with his wife and children.

          The woman is, of course, a fool, but it would still be desirable to limit ourselves to one citizen Ze. Let the rest cry on the ruins of their well-being.
          But we need to start with the obvious psychos - Podolyak, Budanov, Umerov...
          1. 0
            4 June 2025 15: 30
            Let the rest cry

            The rest will make a memorial of Russian dictatorship and imperialism out of it. And in any case, they will personally appoint Putin as the culprit. And every citizen of the Russian Federation. As it was with Navalny or Nemtsov. To hell with such PR.
      2. -8
        4 June 2025 08: 45
        Well, in the West they are just waiting for this. But for us it is of no use.
      3. +6
        4 June 2025 09: 06
        In-in!
        We can do spectacular promotions.

        Can we?
      4. man
        +1
        4 June 2025 16: 21
        Again, the bell doesn't notify about a reply to a comment, and this is in the morning!
        My apologies to those who responded to my comments and did not receive a response from me.
        It's not due to a lack of politeness.
    2. +4
      4 June 2025 09: 19
      "A crow won't peck out another crow's eye."

      Quote: Dutchman Michel
      Have you tried "drowning in the toilet" Zelensky and his team?

      And who will kill them (except Putin and the people)?

      In WWII, non-humans fought on the side of the fascists:
      - under the red and black banners - the Binderites;
      - under the white-blue-red - Vlasovites).
      And who is on the battlefield today? Under whose banners are we fighting?

      "Our" elite sleeps and dreams of how Russia will lose this war to the West and fall apart...

      Our FSB catches saboteurs who kill our people, our bloggers, politicians and generals, and then exchanges them for captured civilians in the Kursk region... This sends a signal to future saboteurs - don't be afraid, kill Russians, nothing will happen to you for it. Even if you get caught - we will exchange you...

      The almost simultaneous destruction of the bridge and the TU-95 is a test of NATO's ability to launch a preemptive strike against us. We failed it and thus brought the war closer...
      1. +8
        4 June 2025 14: 07
        Quote: Boris55
        And who will kill them (except Putin and the people)?

        What Putin? He's probably been sitting in a bunker for 4 days already. And not a peep from him.
      2. +15
        4 June 2025 14: 46
        And our secret and security services also spat on the Russian people.
        Citizens of the sunny republics already live at home, with passports, benefits, pensions. They rob, beat, rape, are rude. They create ghettos, organized crime groups, diasporas, enclaves, closed workplaces. They squeeze Russians out of clinics and hospitals. They categorically deny the SVO and military service. They demonstratively flaunt their religiosity. And they already declare their rights to territories. And they even threaten physically.
      3. +13
        4 June 2025 14: 57
        And who will kill them (except Putin and the people)?

        Again the tsar is good, the boyars are bad?
    3. +7
      4 June 2025 14: 05
      Quote: Dutchman Michel
      Have you tried "drowning in the toilet" Zelensky and his team?

      The chess player's arms are short. And he's afraid, what if the English guys retaliate. For some reason I'm sure they've got a deal on this matter.
    4. +2
      4 June 2025 17: 36
      "Have you tried 'dunking in the toilet'?"
      And who did he kill anyway, even if not in the toilet?
      1. 0
        4 June 2025 18: 26
        Well, they managed to kill Navalny.
        1. 0
          8 June 2025 21: 39
          Navalny was prepared to be exchanged, but he did not live to see it.
  2. +23
    4 June 2025 05: 06
    It seems to me that in response to this time a dotted line will be drawn hi
    1. +2
      4 June 2025 08: 52
      We should not be busy with answers, but with combat work. Wars are not won with answers. Emotions are harmful. Maybe only for forum critics to show off their smarts.
  3. +17
    4 June 2025 05: 17
    What does it mean to "respond"? You have to respond to terrorist acts and such a response is called "reprisals", and you don't have to specifically respond to sabotage that fits within the framework of a normal war, you have to prevent them and carry out your own and stop feeling sorry for the enemy. Although it is impossible to call the SVO a normal war. It does not seem that the leadership of our country perceives this as a war...
    By the way, the work of strategists on the outskirts actually takes bombers outside the nuclear triad.
  4. +36
    4 June 2025 05: 26
    There will be no response as is due for these terrorist attacks. Not this time, nor in all subsequent ones. Not under Putin, for sure... This became clear after the sinking of Moscow and the attack on the Kremlin flagpole. To respond, completely different people are needed in the Kremlin in responsible positions, and in the Russian Ministry of Defense too.
    1. +39
      4 June 2025 05: 37
      I wonder why an article about the explosion near the Crimean bridge support appeared on VO yesterday and then immediately disappeared? There is a video and a bunch of comments about this incident on YouTube, even an article appeared on "Reporter", and here on VO - silence? So as not to upset, finally, the delicate mental organization of some, especially impressionable visitors of VO?
      1. +26
        4 June 2025 07: 12
        By the way, articles that cast a shadow on the existing regime have often appeared and then immediately disappeared.
        1. man
          +8
          4 June 2025 07: 50
          Quote: Dimy4
          By the way, articles that cast a shadow on the existing regime have often appeared and then immediately disappeared.

          Well, that's not surprising. smile
        2. +3
          4 June 2025 15: 52
          By the way, articles that cast a shadow on the existing regime have often appeared and then immediately disappeared.

          By the way, the dominance of all kinds of trash: minus-tsipsoshniks on VO, who interfere with everyone, both right and left, both communists and truth-tellers, somehow does not fit with this passage. And what kind of editorial policy is this is unclear.
          I don’t watch TV channels for information about military operations, I do something else, like during commercials.
          Our media is something: They won’t lie, but they won’t tell the truth either.
        3. 0
          4 June 2025 19: 38
          Quote: Dimy4
          cast a shadow on the existing regime

          In what sense is the word "regime" used? Strict, general, the operating mode of a mechanism, the daily routine, taking medications?
          1. +2
            4 June 2025 19: 53
            In what sense is the word "regime" used? Strict, general, the operating mode of a mechanism, the daily routine, taking medications?

            There are also bed, temperature, political, blender mode, etc. Political is probably more appropriate here.
            1. 0
              4 June 2025 20: 03
              Quote: Dimy4
              blender operating mode

              A blender is also a mechanism. Citizens will not call the system in their country a "regime". Perhaps "dissidents" who do not go to the polls and then say that the elections were stolen from them. In any case, the answer is accepted and understood. hi
              1. +1
                4 June 2025 23: 20
                Quote: Motorist
                Citizens will not call the system in their country a "regime".

                Come on, don't sign for all citizens! I call myself, although I consider myself a patriot more than many of the local hurray-patriots. For example, I raised the issue of returning Crimea back in 2004, when I first had Internet at home :))
                1. +1
                  5 June 2025 00: 22
                  Quote: MBRBS
                  Come on, don't sign for all citizens! I call

                  I left dissidents out of the equation, calm down.
      2. +38
        4 June 2025 07: 14
        I think if the other side hadn't posted videos of burning planes, there would have been silence here too and we would have found out about it many years after all this mess had ended. Everything is fine with us
        1. +12
          4 June 2025 14: 02
          I think if they didn’t post videos from that side, and we had our own internet, then we wouldn’t even know about Kherson and Kupyansk, we would think that they were ours
          1. +1
            5 June 2025 12: 36
            And Staver's articles were read with delight wink
      3. -7
        4 June 2025 12: 06
        nothing happened, the bridge is working
        1. +6
          4 June 2025 14: 55
          All is well, Beautiful Marquise
        2. -5
          4 June 2025 21: 29
          Quote: Nastia Makarova
          nothing happened, the bridge is working

          You and I know this... chick chick jujalyarim...they know this too, but their job is to make noise and lament... Which is what they do... Oy! Wei! Everything is lost! Take care, good people, the tiger in the zoo is not getting enough meat!
    2. +14
      4 June 2025 07: 42
      Quote from: FoBoss_VM
      We need completely different people in the Kremlin in responsible positions

      Certainly
      About responsibility
      The idea of ​​the government's responsibility to the people has been recognized as extremism by the Russian government
      All over the world, only children, the insane, and members of parliament with presidents are not responsible for their actions.
      1. 0
        4 June 2025 23: 26
        Quote: Oleg133/
        All over the world, only children, the insane, and members of parliament with presidents are not responsible for their actions.

        Not in everything! For example, a case was opened against Trump. In South Korea, presidents (prime ministers) are sometimes jailed, and so on.
    3. +12
      4 June 2025 09: 02
      Repeat last year's tests of the Oreshnik and strike Yuzhmash? In any case, to demonstrate even more serious intentions, Russia needs to do something non-trivial. At present, the Russian Army has chosen the most optimal form of combat operations, minimizing, so to speak, the undesirable side effect. And if they test the Oreshnik again, the Banderites will exaggerate this "side effect" and show it to the whole world.
      A very strange conclusion. We need to respond in such a way as to deal a serious blow to the Ukrainian military machine. So that it will be a lesson. But "Houston, we have a problem." Our president once said "that we wanted to be our own, bourgeois, to join the family of civilized nations." The problem is that the Kremlin still wants this. And the oligarchs too. Trump understands this very well, so he threw us a bone like we're friends again. Moscow can't play its game to the end yet, it's just maneuvering with the wind and seeing what happens.
      1. +1
        4 June 2025 16: 10
        Very strange conclusion.

        There are plenty of possible answers. On the one hand, it's even good that they hit the strategists. What's the benefit:
        - we can declare that we have the right to use nuclear weapons first against Ukraine, and then we’ll see how things go;
        - to declare to the Americans that they were accomplices and that reconnaissance aircraft flights in the Black Sea will be stopped by air defense;
        - finally - the least: on the eve of Independence Day, announce to the citizens of Kyiv that near the date of August 24, the destruction of bridges will be carried out using tactical nuclear weapons and people must leave the city, since temporary radioactive contamination of the city is possible.
    4. +5
      4 June 2025 09: 47
      Quote from: FoBoss_VM
      To answer this question, we need completely different people in the Kremlin in responsible positions, and in the Russian Ministry of Defense as well.

      A different society is needed. The most unpleasant thing happened to it - with an extremely low percentage of men who served in the army, no one really followed the new Western weapons or analyzed the tactics of their use. At the same time, everyone was sure that if anything happened, they would beat NATO even with conventional weapons
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      1. +12
        4 June 2025 15: 00
        At the same time, everyone was sure that if anything happened, they would beat NATO even with conventional weapons.

        Half of our military unit still thinks this way.
        1. +4
          4 June 2025 18: 54
          Quote: Ermak_415

          Half of our military unit still thinks this way.

          Больше laughing
          1. +1
            5 June 2025 15: 56
            But looking at the comments over the last six months, it begins to seem to me that it is already less than half.
            More and more people are writing dissatisfaction and asking questions like, “How did you allow this to happen?”
            And the memorized patriotic messages from the category "well now we'll really get down to business" or "you and I don't know all the information, but it's definitely not that simple..." are not only not taken seriously by many, but are also actively downvoted.
            So people are gradually beginning to understand
            1. +1
              6 June 2025 07: 50
              Quote: Mustachioed Kok
              "And how did you allow this to happen?"

              , since the times of the Union they have allowed this, introducing a military department instead of compulsory military service for everyone Yes
              But, in the USSR, Western innovations were followed, but now, at most, they compare the performance characteristics of a warm one with a soft one under collision conditions in a spherical vacuum))
    5. +11
      4 June 2025 12: 33
      For me, everything is already clear with the political leadership of Russia. For them, the interests of the West are more important than the honor of Russia and the lives of its citizens. But they are not the ones conducting military operations, planning and striking at Ukraine. Men with shoulder straps, do all your missiles hit the target exactly? There are no hitches? Well, like, the enemy's electronic warfare interfered, the flight mission failed, the wind blew it away. Well, and this missile ended up God knows where, on Bankova, for example, or the SBU surrendered. I understand that there will be showdowns. But at least you won't feel sick from this unintelligible mumbling on TV. And how many lives will this save?
      1. +4
        4 June 2025 14: 12
        Quote from lako
        Guys with shoulder straps, do all your missiles hit the target exactly? There are no hitches? Well, like, the enemy's electronic warfare interfered, the flight mission failed, the wind blew it away. Well, and this missile ended up God knows where, on Bankova, for example, or the SBU surrendered

        There are not many such men there, if there are any. And some of them are already trampling the zone. General "Spartak" is the same.
    6. +3
      4 June 2025 13: 15
      Quote from: FoBoss_VM
      There will be no response as is due for these terrorist attacks.

      And what is the answer, as you write, laid for these terrorist attacks. Please clarify.
      P.S. Gentlemen-comrades, is it just me whose bell doesn't work?
      1. 0
        4 June 2025 17: 59
        P.S. Gentlemen-comrades, is it just me whose bell doesn't work?

        The same garbage.
        1. +1
          4 June 2025 18: 14
          Quote: Dimy4
          P.S. Gentlemen-comrades, is it just me whose bell doesn't work?

          The same garbage.

          Thank you hi
  5. +4
    4 June 2025 05: 45
    If we pay attention to global problems every time, ignoring the "little things", then these little things can cause us significant harm. Who are these people who launch drones at airplanes? If they are citizens of our country, then they will be found. And what if they are aliens? And why not? There are enough illegal migrants, and this is a direct path to sabotage. It is necessary to pay attention to the protection of our border. What good is it when an illegal from our country flies to Turkey? Such little things can bring us trouble.
  6. +35
    4 June 2025 06: 02
    They have already responded, for example with an article about how the Tu-95 is serenely outdated, and we don't really need it, and its combat mission is to amuse pensioners. You never know, they'll send you a letter of thanks for recycling obsolete equipment.....
    1. +12
      4 June 2025 07: 16
      True, the main thing is to present everything in such a way that it is as intended! And everyone is happy and there is no need to answer, everything is fine
      1. +10
        4 June 2025 07: 51
        That's right, the main thing is to imagine everything as if it were meant to be!

        And to everyone who screwed up the security of the facility, a medal and an extra star on their shoulder straps!
    2. man
      +6
      4 June 2025 07: 56
      Quote from turembo
      They have already responded, for example with an article about how the Tu-95 is serenely outdated, and we don't really need it, and its combat mission is to amuse pensioners. You never know, they'll send you a letter of thanks for recycling obsolete equipment.....

      and Ze will be awarded a bonus...
  7. +19
    4 June 2025 06: 10
    At present, the Russian Army has chosen the most optimal form of conducting military operations, minimizing... undesirable side effects.
    Optimal form you say!!!???? ...the positional confrontation, which has been going on for four years now, ultimately takes more lives than rapid offensive operations in the style of the Wehrmacht or the Red Army. And the economy is oppressed by the positional war. Also, the positional war oppresses the consciousness of the army and the population (demoralization)... Alexander Samsonov - I completely agree. The goal of military action is the fastest possible defeat of the enemy. By the way, this was the goal of February 22, 2022.
  8. +27
    4 June 2025 06: 13
    Revenge is a dish best eaten cold

    A cold dish cannot be stored for long - it will spoil.
    You can poison yourself.
    1. man
      +7
      4 June 2025 08: 01
      Quote from tsvetahaki
      Revenge is a dish best eaten cold

      A cold dish cannot be stored for long - it will spoil.
      You can poison yourself.

      And the monkey waiting by the river began to be remembered often...
      1. +4
        4 June 2025 12: 49
        So who rules us - the monkeys by the river?!
    2. -1
      4 June 2025 12: 48
      This is a mammoth... dug up from the permafrost.
  9. +24
    4 June 2025 06: 13
    ...The physical elimination of those responsible for the terrorist attacks of June 1 could be adequate and entirely proportionate...


    I suppose the implementation of such a plan is extremely unlikely.
    When personalizing the guilt of the leaders of the Ukrainian leadership with their subsequent liquidation is impossible, the Russian elites are afraid of retaliatory actions. Because they are very vulnerable: close relatives, movable and immovable property located in Europe will be easily accessible for revenge by the SBU.
    Russian elites are afraid of this. This is the only way to explain the indecisiveness of the Russian Special Services.

    And once again we recall the prophetic words of Z. Brzezinski about the belonging of the Russian elite.
    1. man
      +5
      4 June 2025 08: 04
      And once again we recall the prophetic words of Z. Brzezinski about the belonging of the Russian elite.
      But we ourselves, without Brzezinski, did not observe this...
  10. +19
    4 June 2025 06: 27
    And there will be no response, from the very beginning of the operation it was clear that its goal was a deal with partners, therefore the first blow did not knock out the entire leadership of Ukraine, which would have saved hundreds of thousands of lives on both sides, but they entered in columns like on a parade, not expecting a blow, it was not for nothing that there was a rumor that Medvedchuk was supposed to organize a meeting with bread and salt for us, and then we had to ransom him from captivity. If our goal is a deal, then our leadership will act carefully so as not to disrupt it.
    1. +6
      4 June 2025 12: 52
      our management will act with caution

      The logical question is: Is it OUR leadership then? 87% forever?
    2. +5
      4 June 2025 15: 58
      Maybe the SVO is now strictly within the framework of the agreement? Maybe they agreed on shame and war and not to stop anything, and then they will disappear, like the Assad family? They will tell awesome stories from Dubai to the stunned people
  11. +1
    4 June 2025 06: 53
    Physical elimination of those responsible for the terrorist attacks on June 1 could be adequate and quite proportionate. Whether it is Malyuk, or Budanov, or even Zelensky himself, it does not really matter. The main thing is to answer the showman in Kyiv that we can do spectacular actions. Of course, both of them will be immediately replaced by a new talking head, but the final result will still be remarkable. The Israelis with enviable regularity take out freshly baked Hamas leaders, it is time for us to adopt such experience.

    It is good for the author to give such advice without risking anything.
    But what he proposes to our leadership is fraught with the fact that they will be made not just outcasts of the so-called "Civilized World" (practically the current state), but leaders of a Terrorist State and will be purposefully engaged in their liquidation. Considering that the intelligence and technical capabilities of the collective West (including Israel!) are overwhelmingly superior to ours, then Milosevic's end will seem like a simple pardon, especially if we recall Gaddafi's end. As a pressure factor, do not forget about relatives abroad.
    We need to be more humane!
    1. +4
      4 June 2025 07: 20
      So maybe it's for the best? Finally, more worthy and ready to act gentlemen will take their place. These are assumptions, I want to shake up the stagnant swamp more strongly
      1. +1
        4 June 2025 08: 19
        In their place will be a Gauleiter appointed by the West.
        The swamp will be replaced by ghettos and reservations, and the "worthy gentlemen" will be busy optimizing the number of Russian people in accordance with the needs of booth jesters and manufacturers of nesting dolls for tourists.
        They used to say: Germans are a cultured nation, they will bring us order and teach us to work. These dreams were partially realized during the Great Patriotic War, although the memory of it is gradually fading.
        1. -4
          4 June 2025 08: 27
          Quote: Victor Leningradets
          In their place will be a Gauleiter appointed by the West.

          Then we need to change our Supreme Commander.
          If the enemy's Supreme Command is so successfully defended by our "hurray-patriots".
      2. 0
        4 June 2025 17: 20
        So maybe it's for the best?

        That's what they'll say when they tear ours apart. Let him be one-eyed, let him be cross-eyed, let him be Shoigu. And then they'll say "we don't abandon our own, and they weren't ours." And we'll have peace like in Libya now.
    2. +5
      4 June 2025 09: 12
      Victor, I can't understand you... you are for strategic offensive operations using tactical nuclear weapons... but now it turns out that eliminating the top brass of the Ukrainian Armed Forces is not humane, you decide)))
      1. -2
        4 June 2025 10: 02
        To all those in the tank:
        When I write what SHOULD be done, I write because I consider it necessary to express my proposal. And it doesn't matter how it will be assessed.
        If I write about some circumstances that prevent "dreams from coming true", then this is simply a statement of reality (from my point of view, of course), and not admiration for the current government. We must understand that they are also people, they are prone to mistakes and fears.
        1. 0
          4 June 2025 12: 58
          Responding to terrorism with terrorism is certainly not our method.
          They didn’t even allow themselves to do this in relation to Hitler’s Germany, and there were even more “debts” accumulated there.
          It is typical for Russians to forgive a DEFEATENED enemy. Sometimes to their own detriment, but then we will cease to be Russian.
          But first it is necessary to OVERTHROW, and the Kremlin’s desire to do so has not been evident from the very beginning.
  12. +24
    4 June 2025 06: 54
    It started, on all the branches, "nothing terrible happened." What else should happen to bring the country's leadership to its senses, a nuclear strike? It seems that after that, there will be people explaining that nothing terrible happened. Shame and disgrace.
    1. +1
      4 June 2025 12: 10
      in a month everyone will have forgotten and will not remember this attack
      1. +4
        4 June 2025 15: 07
        in a month everyone will have forgotten and will not remember this attack

        Why, something even worse will happen?
      2. +5
        4 June 2025 16: 13
        Because there will be new attacks, leaks and shame...
    2. +2
      4 June 2025 13: 00
      China Had a Sale on Felt-Tip Pens: Expect More "Red Lines" sad
  13. +7
    4 June 2025 06: 54
    But for the consciousness of an ordinary Ukrainian, clouded by Bandera propaganda, a few burnt Tu-95s would be more than enough.

    Fedorov is not a Banderite. He is a simple propagandist. For his pure propagandist consciousness, the loss of the Tu-95 means nothing:

    The footage of drones falling on the Tu-95 was, of course, impressive, but not critical.
    1. +10
      4 June 2025 07: 24
      He was given a clear order "not to rock the boat"! The crowd, the electorate, the lumpen, whatever, must be calmed down so that they don't panic, don't incite, otherwise they'll start to doubt the adequacy of the government and start some kind of internal liberation campaign like last year! That's why now a lot of experts have crawled out with the idea that this was the plan and everything is fine with us. And to make things better, we'll raise fines and gas prices too, so that there's something to think about.
    2. +6
      4 June 2025 07: 25
      Quote: Stas157
      The loss of the Tu-95 means nothing
      There is an article in the neighboring thread that says in the most serious terms that the Tu-95 is pure junk, along with its cruise missiles. I can assume that by destroying these planes, the khikhlys did us a good service, saving us from having to dispose of them. wink
      1. 0
        4 June 2025 10: 37
        Quote: Dutchman Michel
        the khikhlys have served us well
        So, the West has done a "good turn", without their sanctions, we would not have thought of developing our own industries at least somehow. Zelya, "a handsome man", if not him, ours would have long ago got involved in some "Minsk-3", but as it is, they just can't make peace with their "partners" and their Nazis... It's strange, enemies, as it turns out, sometimes bring more benefit than their own managers. Maybe the West, with its meanness and stubbornness against Russia, will topple its henpecked husbands, to whom it should pray. Like our renegades, even enemies have not done so much harm to our people. How can one not recall Goethe, "Faust", the words of Mephistopheles about himself - "Part of that power, which is without number, does good, wishing evil to everything." Maybe life will force us to return the people's power and revive socialism? Is it possible to defeat the world evil in any other way...
    3. man
      +1
      4 June 2025 08: 21
      Quote: Stas157
      But for the consciousness of an ordinary Ukrainian, clouded by Bandera propaganda, a few burnt Tu-95s would be more than enough.

      Fedorov is not a Banderite. He is a simple propagandist. For his pure propagandist consciousness, the loss of the Tu-95 means nothing:

      The footage of drones falling on the Tu-95 was, of course, impressive, but not critical.

      It's interesting that this nonsense was also placed in the "Analytics" section!
      1. +2
        4 June 2025 13: 02
        It would be interesting to read the thoughts of the Americans if suddenly some vegetables burn five "Stratofortresses" for them...
  14. +16
    4 June 2025 07: 21
    I see two options. 2. Whine at the UN and nothing more. 1. Desperately attack transformer boxes in Kyiv for a couple of nights, destroying a carload of geraniums.
    1. man
      +4
      4 June 2025 08: 11
      Desperately attack transformer boxes in Kyiv for a couple of nights, destroying a carload of geraniums.
      Why "desperately"? Better yet, proudly!
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    3. +8
      4 June 2025 09: 14
      Quote: anclevalico
      I see two options. 2. Whine at the UN and nothing more. 1. Desperately attack transformer boxes in Kyiv for a couple of nights, destroying a carload of geraniums.

      The funniest and most bitter thing is that this is exactly how it will be. Both options. And they will pass it off as terrible revenge.
      1. +4
        4 June 2025 13: 04
        But here you are absolutely wrong. There is also diplomatic "concern". Not even like that: if we express "serious concern", everyone will get scared!
  15. +5
    4 June 2025 07: 46
    Apparently, there are still months and months of war ahead, if not years, and we will still see many unexpected and inadequate things. Sometimes it seems that what happened is already the maximum of bad that we can see, but then a new maximum appears and the bottom continues. Old people are simply not able to adequately respond to threats. That's why they invented pensions. Grandchildren or children need to be looked after, make way for the young and energetic, Stalin was only 61 years old when the war began. And now. Health to all!
    1. +6
      4 June 2025 09: 16
      Quote: cmax
      Grandchildren or children need to be looked after, make way for the young and energetic

      War is a matter for the young. Unfortunately, our gerontocracy will not give up its own.
  16. +9
    4 June 2025 07: 54
    There will be another useless blow to the electric boxes. From which a couple of thousand people's dumplings will go bad in the refrigerator, and that will be the end of all the damage. In a week the substations will fly up and that's it.
    Yesterday there was a good article about how much the Ukrainians have already done in Russia and how to respond.
    But I don’t have any hope anymore, cuckolds are incorrigible.
  17. +14
    4 June 2025 08: 02
    Gentlemen, "deflate your fighting bubbles" a little and understand one thing, that the current leadership of the country has a very simple style of government and includes the formula: "Let's pretend we haven't noticed anything, and it will resolve itself." So, we will have to wipe ourselves off and wait for the next "slap in the face."
  18. +4
    4 June 2025 08: 11
    "Options for Russia's response to the destruction of part of the nuclear shield"

    This is not the first time that the Ukrainian Armed Forces have struck strategic aviation bases, and the response is always the same - a retaliatory strike against secondary Ukrainian targets - energy and transport infrastructure, industrial facilities, Ukrainian Armed Forces positions, etc.
    A normal command would first of all be concerned with striking at the civil and military control system at all levels, airspace and cross-border crossings, transport communications (the bridges across the Dnieper are still intact, which allows the economy to operate and the military to maneuver its forces and resources), military and other objects that support the performance of the economy and the combat readiness of the army.
  19. +11
    4 June 2025 08: 17
    To solve the problem, there needs to be will in the Kremlin... But from there, after the threatening words, there will again be talk about Moscow wanting peace talks in Istanbul and it will all end with the words: "Guys, let's live in peace. Your cat is Leopold."
  20. KCA
    +2
    4 June 2025 08: 22
    Why does the Russian Armed Forces suddenly lack medium-range ground systems? The RS-26 is firing every day, who said that only the Oreshnik can launch it, and not IRBMs with a TN warhead? Are the grenades of the wrong caliber?
    1. RMT
      +2
      4 June 2025 14: 40
      It was expected that Rubezh would enter service in 2015. But!
      March 22, 2018 TASS, citing a source in the Russian Ministry of Defense, reported that the RS-26 Rubezh mobile missile system and the Barguzin BZHRK were excluded from the state armament program until 2027 (GPV-27). Instead, GPV-27 included the Avangard mine-based complex, which is more important for the country's defense. The reason for the exclusion is the impossibility of simultaneously financing the above programs.
  21. -5
    4 June 2025 08: 47
    The fact is that some, so-called, patriots got very excited. Yaroslavna's lamentations are still playing on some channels.
    Now to the point. If they were to strike, then only at London. The Americans probably knew. But they hardly helped. For them, the SVO is now more like a natural experience. Like, what will happen if?
    But the symbols of Bandera's power should have been torn down long ago. And the monument to Bandera in Munich, it seems, should have been destroyed long ago. Something like that.
    1. +2
      4 June 2025 15: 14
      If we're going to hit, then only London.

      I understand you have nothing to lose. No relatives, no friends, and you're kind of tired of living.
      I don’t see any other option to support “The whole world will crumble to dust.”
  22. -1
    4 June 2025 08: 52
    Part of Russia's nuclear triad was not destroyed by the Ukrainians, it was destroyed by the West (NATO) led by the USA! Whose hands are they doing it with - it doesn't matter.
    And we will answer/take revenge for this on the Ukrainians! This is the main dissonance of all our "responses"...
  23. +7
    4 June 2025 08: 55
    And if NATO and the USA hit us? Question for the ultra-patriots. All this shows the state of our triad, these are not cartoons and beautiful videos on TV.
  24. BAI
    +2
    4 June 2025 08: 58
    The house on Bankova is an architectural monument. It would be a shame to destroy it because of the goats that sit there.
    But the Odessa port needs to be demolished. We won't get it anyway
    1. +1
      4 June 2025 15: 16
      So, will we get Kyiv?
  25. +5
    4 June 2025 09: 01
    Again, here about partners. This word is associated with non-traditional sex. The only question is, who is the passive party in this?!
    1. +4
      4 June 2025 13: 08
      If you look at what is happening not through jingoistic patriotic glasses or through a glass, then this has long been out of the question.
  26. -6
    4 June 2025 09: 05
    At present, the Russian Army has chosen the most optimal form of conducting military operations, minimizing, so to speak, the undesirable side effect

    And this, by the way, is the most important thing.
    Ukraine without Western weapons, without Western aid, is nothing.
    The West will stop providing it with assistance (especially financial) if it is finally convinced that it is finished anyway, and all this is a waste of money and it will not receive any rare earth metals.
    And our successful, methodical and inevitable successes on the battlefield can convince him of this.
    And on the battlefield we are winning and the West already sees it.
    --------
    As for the attacks on our strategists, we must warn the P-NDOS through closed channels that they have already crossed all possible red lines and we ALREADY have the full moral and legal right to kill them at any moment.
    When they go to bed in the evening, let them remember that they may not wake up in the morning. Yes
    1. +3
      4 June 2025 15: 23
      The West will stop providing it with assistance (especially financial) if it is finally convinced that it is finished anyway, and all this is a waste of money and it will not receive any rare earth metals.

      They've been talking about this since 22.
      And our successful, methodical and inevitable successes on the battlefield can convince him of this.

      What kind of successes exactly? Taking another village? A year of storming a small town? Sinking 20% ​​of the Black Sea Fleet along with the flagship?
      1. -2
        5 June 2025 15: 35
        What kind of successes exactly?

        You yourself write:
        Taking another village?
        Pay attention not to the word "village", but to the word "another".
        The next one means a successful chain (sequence) of events.
        But the main thing is that this indicates that the enemy has exhausted its RESOURCES (in the broad sense) to defend its “next villages”, which it is desperately fighting for, but cannot hold.
        Which means it will inevitably lose. And since it will inevitably lose, there is no point in investing in a flawed project.
        This is what we are seeing now.
        1. 0
          5 June 2025 16: 04
          Pay attention not to the word "village", but to the word "another".

          2-3 villages per day in completely different directions, given that there are tens of thousands of them on the territory of Ukraine...
          Which means he will inevitably lose.

          Why is that?
          China also lost territory during World War II, but for some reason ended up on the list of winners.
          Another example: Iran in the Iran-Iraq War.
          They also fought for every village, and then retreated. Did Iraq win? No. Although it was stronger and supported by most of the world, the war ended in nothing.
          But the main thing is that this indicates that the enemy has exhausted its RESOURCES

          Have you forgotten about Kursk? The Ukrainian Armed Forces suddenly had reserves there, and ours had to transfer reserves from the DPR and sign a contract with Wagner again.
          And the offensive, as it had been extremely slow since 23, remained so.
          And it doesn't speed up. There are still days when nothing changes on the map at all.
          1. +1
            5 June 2025 16: 55
            There are tens of thousands of them on the territory of Ukraine
            Yeah, and every village will have such resistance?
            There won't be enough reserves (primarily human ones).
            China also lost territory during World War II, but for some reason ended up on the list of winners.
            I will add similar examples: Poland, France, etc.
            But where would these victors be if the Soviet army had not taken village after village, city after city?
            There is another example of WWI, not a single foreign soldier crossed the German border, but Germany lost... because of a resource breakdown.
            And it is the Ukrainians who have a resource breakdown. And this factor is against them.
            Have you forgotten about Kursk? The Ukrainian Armed Forces suddenly had reserves there, and ours had to transfer reserves from the DPR
            But it's the other way around. The Ukrainian Armed Forces have urgently begun to transfer their reserves from Donbass (by the way, it's easier for them, the logistical reach is much shorter than ours), and we have transferred much less (the Koreans won't let me lie).
            What's the bottom line regarding Kursk?
            The Kursk sector has been cleared, the Ukrainians have suffered losses of more than 65 thousand.
            During this time, they have made significant progress in Donbass and reached the border of the Dnepropetrovsk region, where it will be extremely difficult for the Ukrainians to defend themselves.
            The map is not an indicator. The indicator is a resource breakdown, and it is becoming increasingly obvious.
            1. 0
              5 June 2025 18: 56
              Yeah, and every village will have such resistance?
              There won't be enough reserves (primarily human ones).

              Naturally, it will be. Maybe not as fierce, but the Russian Armed Forces do not have endless resources (especially if we take into account the government's fear of mobilization).
              There is another example of WWI, not a single foreign soldier crossed the German border, but Germany lost... because of a resource breakdown.
              And it is the Ukrainians who have a resource breakdown. And this factor is against them.

              Germany lost because by the end of the war the industry had died due to a shortage of resources and simply food for the population. And they had no allies left.
              While France, for example, could simply bring in soldiers from Africa, workers from America, food from Vietnam, and at the same time not burden the economy and the population, while simultaneously receiving additional aid from its allies.
              And who is blockading Ukraine, because of which it cannot receive aid?
              With such support, its own industry is not so important to it. What are all sorts of BEK, Drones, UAVs, Loitering Munitions made of? From what can be found in civilian life. After which it is assembled somewhere in a garage or workshop and sent to the front.
              And everything else can be bought from someone.
              But it's the other way around. The Ukrainian Armed Forces have urgently begun to transfer their reserves from Donbass

              In a hurry? They understood perfectly well where they were going and what forces were needed for this.
              and we actually transferred much less (Koreans won't let me lie)

              The Koreans joined the assault after the main events of the Su breakthrough into the Kursk region. And such units as Pyatnashka, Veterany, Shtorm-Z, etc. were transferred from the DPR.
              The Kursk sector has been cleared, the Ukrainians have suffered losses of more than 65 thousand.

              Our losses are unknown, but judging by how fiercely the fighting was... no less. And that's without taking into account civilians.
              reached the border of the Dnepropetrovsk region, where it will be extremely difficult for the Ukrainians to defend themselves.

              It is so difficult for them to defend themselves that they have not been driven out of several villages for more than six months.
              And besides, what will access to the Dnepropetrovsk region give us?
              Positional battles in fields and forest belts for small villages and settlements will continue as they were. And if there is any significant advancement, it will only be in the 26th.
              We don't have the strength to storm large cities. No one will mobilize, it's too unpredictable for the economy. And the population will decrease significantly, and no one has cancelled the terrible demographics.
              So for now it's a dead end. Neither we nor they can achieve serious success on the battlefield. In politics, everything is also complicated, no one is going to back down from their demands.
              So the circus continues.
              The indicator is a resource breakdown, and it is becoming increasingly obvious

              As obvious as the freezing of Europe or the refusal to supply weapons to Ukraine?
              If it does happen, it won't be this year, and it's unlikely to be next year.
              1. +1
                6 June 2025 21: 50
                but the Russian Armed Forces don't have endless resources either
                Yes, but more than Ukraine.
                especially considering the government's fear of mobilization

                I don’t know what fears the government has, but the people have already become accustomed to the state of war.
                Over these three years, the idleness of existence has slowly gone away somewhere. The overwhelming majority already understands the complexity of the situation - the war is turning into something ordinary, and for some, just routine.
                So the population is already psychologically prepared for war and is not afraid of any mobilization. Another thing is that those who go voluntarily are more motivated.

                Positional battles in fields and forest belts for small villages and towns have been going on and will continue to do so.

                Well, not exactly. An open field and a populated area (for both defense and attack) are a very big difference.
                In a populated area, every house (not to mention a factory or a plant) is like a defensive fortification. An open field is simply mined, they don’t even try to defend themselves there, especially if it’s far from a large populated area.
                In Donbass there are many medium-sized, industrial settlements that flow into one another, there are practically no flanks, it is extremely difficult to attack.
                It’s a different matter in the Dnepropetrovsk region, there’s more steppe there, there’s nothing to cling to for defense.
                So for now it's a dead end

                Dead end for Ukraine, before capitulation.
  27. +1
    4 June 2025 09: 13
    This is how you can write about all nuclear weapons, like everything is tracked and therefore it is not a pity when it is put out of action. And strategic aircraft just played an important role in cooling especially violent heads, just by the fact of being in the air. So it is not for the author to downplay the damage...
  28. +3
    4 June 2025 09: 14
    Once again, it is worth lamenting the fact that Russia does not have ground-based medium-range ballistic missile systems or at least ground-based launchers for Kalibr-class cruise missiles.

    First, the author complains that we don’t have enough APU with RSD, there’s nothing to work with...
    And if we work again with "Oreshnik", the Banderites will exaggerate this "side effect" and show it to the whole world. Nobody needs this - neither us, nor our partners.
    The BRK SN SD "ORESHNIK" appeared, which can cover anything, from the PP SAM "Patriot", field fortifications of the area, buried command posts, hydroelectric power plants, pumped storage power plants, thermal power plants, sewage treatment facilities, to several city blocks..., etc., etc. and he doesn't like it. And he probably considers the FSA in the person of "Donnie" as "partners". Decide what you need...?
    Physical elimination of those responsible for the terrorist attacks on June 1 may be adequate and quite proportionate. Whether it will be Malyuk, or Budanov, or even Zelensky himself, it doesn't really matter
    We've heard about the hydra heads; instead of one Ukrainian fascist ghoul, another will come.
    Until the "kindred people" start moving towards Lvov from cities without electricity, water and sewage, i.e. drown in shit, the SVO will be long, and these are the lives of our guys, the best representatives of the Russian people. Therefore, I believe that it is necessary to warn the "kindred people" 2 days in advance about the attack on the city, and go ahead. I assure you, author, in 2 months there will be a revolution in the Ukrainian Reich. Right now, in Sumy and Kharkov, the RZSO can work... IMHO
  29. +7
    4 June 2025 09: 47
    Physical elimination of those responsible for the terrorist attacks on June 1 could be adequate and quite proportionate. Whether it will be Malyuk, or Budanov, or even Zelensky himself, it doesn’t really matter.

    Zelensky cannot be touched. Putin promised the Jews not to kill him.
    He can't help but keep his word.
    Although, it doesn’t work against Russians.
  30. +3
    4 June 2025 09: 59
    The author suggests sinking civilian ships in the Black Sea. Under the flags of different countries. Isn't he from Ukraine by any chance? A typical armchair expert with access to posting on the site. In addition, these ships often go to Odessa through the territorial waters of Bulgaria and Romania. In coastal navigation. And the moderators on the site can't not allow outright nonsense to be published? After all, we want quality articles from serious authors...
  31. +1
    4 June 2025 10: 06
    We have a military doctrine and the Constitution of the Russian Federation, we need to implement it and not arrange liberal dances with tambourines. All this smells very bad.
  32. +5
    4 June 2025 10: 19
    "For the first time in history"? Well, well. And the strategic long-range warning station in Krasnodar Krai is not that long ago - that's different? Apparently, the answer is expected, accordingly, "the first in history": for the n-th time we'll bomb Kyiv-Odessa-Dnepropetrovsk-Krivoy Rog-etc. - underline as appropriate; coo in the media for internal consumption; write a complaint to some pseudo-authoritative pro-American world organization for the protection of the rights and freedoms of sharovarniks. Maybe DAM will throw in something else uplifting; Masha Petrosyan will say something especially derogatory in a briefing. Well, at least they rolled out an ultimatum to the elven pigdogs in Istanbul - that's already some progress. With which they, as expected, go to a certain place.
  33. 0
    4 June 2025 11: 07
    At the military review there was a proposal to create an analogue of the B-52 based on the Il-76
  34. +8
    4 June 2025 11: 11
    I don't even want to read the article. There will be no clear answer. There is no political will. No, maybe not even any hazel. Otherwise, there would be ruins in place of the bank. But there are none! Some kind of whining
  35. +7
    4 June 2025 11: 16
    This anti-crisis, reposted by the author, has been circulating on the Internet since the 1st.
    There, some channel authors are taking things to the point of absurdity, saying that the Ukrops spent money on dummies and that in reality this attack was a brilliant special operation by domestic intelligence services.
    But let's be realistic. After this powerful sabotage, Medynsky went to Istanbul without blinking an eye, where he reported that he was in a great mood and was fully prepared for negotiations.
    And as a result of these negotiations, Zelinsky even trolled ours, stating, I quote:
    "I was told that the Russian delegation behaved much more calmly this time. But their arrogance needs to be broken. Maybe a few more steps need to be taken before they start behaving like decent people!"
    Well, that is, he quite transparently hinted that those 4 days of victory, which are being uncontrollably celebrated in Khokhlostana, will continue. And indeed, yesterday an underwater BEK crashed into the fence of the Crimean Bridge. This time it got away with it, and it was stopped by the fence. But what will we do when 10 of these BEKs arrive?
    In this whole kitchen there are only 2 possible ways out of the situation, namely:
    a) The complete defeat of the Ukrainian people as a state and their capitulation.
    b) Our "capitulation-light" through the peace treaty with grandfather Trump with an attempt to preserve the remains of a face.
    The 4th year of shameful realization of his own has shown that the leader of the Russian nation desperately needs a deal with Grandpa Trump, because he cannot and does not want to fight normally. But he needs such a deal that the masses will not ask him - Grandpa, have you gone crazy or something?
    And therefore, I am sure that there is now a wild bargaining going on - what Trump will allow and what he will not.
    And Grandpa Vova is being tested for the strength of his testicles, including these attacks on nuclear carriers. So far, as everyone can see, Grandpa's testicles are not doing so well.
    1. -3
      4 June 2025 15: 41
      Some channel authors are taking things to the point of absurdity, saying that it was the Ukrops who spent money on dummies and that in reality this attack was a brilliant special operation by domestic intelligence services

      And this cannot be ruled out either. It is very possible.
      At least this explains your question:
      After this powerful sabotage, Medynsky went to Istanbul without blinking an eye,

      (By the way, what is that power? MedYnsky seems to be a mykola, "without batting an eyelid" - well, it seems that only broad villagers can do that bully )
      And the main argument is that the clown "trolled" about this. In general, in this "play" this is really the most important thing! Yes
  36. +7
    4 June 2025 11: 22
    After all, for the first time in history, one of the components of the nuclear triad was attacked.

    For the first time? Engels, Dyagilevo, Severa... And also a radar station near Voronezh and not only...
    Or does the author not know arithmetic?
    Fuck such idiots
    1. +1
      4 June 2025 14: 09
      It was a long time ago and it's not true. What an inconvenient feature of this internet that you can't remember everything, don't you think?
  37. +6
    4 June 2025 11: 22
    Can we shoot those who haven't come up with a way to protect strategists from such attacks? We've been fighting for three years, your masha! Even the most imbecile could have guessed that such an attack was possible. Is it hard to come up with a rigid frame and at least stretch three layers of chain-link fencing on top? Is it hard to put up towers around the entire perimeter with electronic warfare? In three years, we could have even made mock-ups of airplanes, so you wouldn't be able to tell the difference. Damn it, at least put up a battalion of army men with shotguns. Is it all that hard??? Fire everyone and demote them.
    1. -2
      4 June 2025 12: 18
      the easiest thing to do was to make sure that mobile internet didn't work there
    2. -1
      4 June 2025 15: 45
      In three years, it would have been possible to even make models of airplanes
      Can you continue this thought? What would happen?
      1. 0
        5 June 2025 12: 14
        if mobile internet and communication were constantly turned off within a radius of 50 km, we wouldn't get anywhere at all
  38. 0
    4 June 2025 12: 07
    When I wrote the same thing in Telegram about the value and usefulness of this branch of our nuclear triad, they started to downvote me very harshly am
    1. +2
      4 June 2025 12: 35
      This is local reality, it's time to get used to it, you've been here for 6 years already. This site presents 2 parallel worlds.
      In the news thread and in the telegram there are uryakalki who have already defeated the ukrops and natu, the leader of the nation is a brilliant strategist, etc.
      But in the analytics and opinion threads there are mostly realists and the all-shit-outs who have joined them)

      IMHO, this is due to the presentation of the material. Firstly, apparently due to fears of the authorities' reaction, the administration posts news based on officialdom. And it is purely positive for the Russian Federation, of course. Or, at a minimum, "the damage is insignificant", "the debris fell", etc. Well, and the type of thinking of the recipients themselves is different. News-reaction-next news-reaction, there is no need to think much and argue the position.
      But analytics and opinions are more serious, personal opinions are allowed there, opinions that are detailed and reasoned. As a rule, uryakalki can't cope with this.
  39. +4
    4 June 2025 12: 12
    destruction of part of the nuclear shield

    For the destruction of part of the nuclear shield, our government traditionally rewards those not involved and punishes the innocent. And the guilty, as always, will be promoted and given another sinecure. Instead of execution.
  40. +2
    4 June 2025 12: 25
    Article... I have no censored words. But it is quite clear what needs to be done. At the moment, we are undergoing an operation aimed at destroying the Banderites. Well, for now we need to put this semi-partisan warfare aside and organize a large-scale military operation to seize the Odessa region, and Nikolaev region to boot.
    With all the attributes of such an operation - massive artillery preparation, bombing of the entire front line, massive processing of missiles and bombs (to attract the remaining strategists) of the locations of the enemy reserves, etc. The task of preserving enemy civilians can be neglected for now (as sad as it is, but nothing else will work). A tank attack, a simultaneous strike by many tens of thousands of people... is not the kind of story where you can storm a stronghold per day.
    THIS is what can give results. If our army is capable of it. Everything listed in the article will only cause mocking contempt in the world.
    1. 0
      4 June 2025 12: 39
      One problem is that this requires the mobilization of at least 1 million.
    2. 0
      5 June 2025 12: 48
      Eh... I can just see you ahead on a dashing horse and with a saber at the ready... laughing
      1. 0
        5 June 2025 12: 51
        Yeah. The usual answer. It's even strange that you're the first one) The question is - what to do so that. And I've voiced the only effective option. Forgive me. And I'll certainly die at my post, don't worry. Without a horse and a saber, true, but definitely.
  41. +3
    4 June 2025 12: 37
    After 4 years of war, it's time to get used to the fact that nothing will happen. Only Medvedev will write something on his iPhone, which will only show the extent of his inadequacy and detachment from reality. From rotten reality.

    It's like with migrants - Lavrov went to Uzbekistan, they put up monuments in English for him there. He came and got an order. And then the Uzbek deputy came and everyone licked her, right down to Matvienko.
    What's the result? They screwed us again.

    This is the tradition - a country without teeth, like a prisoner in a zone without teeth. If you know what I mean.
  42. 0
    4 June 2025 13: 07
    The FSB should work better. But for now, as in the famous song "Argentina-Jamaica - 5:0". And not in our favor.
  43. +2
    4 June 2025 13: 46
    The pain threshold of Russians has not become higher, everyone has simply understood everything. About red lines and about relationships with dear partners and about the testicle material of respected bosses. And they understood that no one can change anything and simply gave up on everything.
  44. 0
    4 June 2025 13: 57
    Even if we hypothetically assume that Malyuk (Baby) pulled off the "Web" without consulting the CIA, the entire American intelligence service is worth a dime if they didn't know about its preparation.


    And what is the price of Russian intelligence, which slept through the preparation of the Ukrainian UAV attack on the bases of the Russian strategic aviation, half a penny or a quarter?
  45. -2
    4 June 2025 14: 19
    We need to go to the Ministry of Defense with villas and demand that they conduct a surface test of our nuclear weapons as soon as possible, otherwise the people will think that Russia no longer has any nuclear weapons. Would the Anglo-Saxons really act so brazenly knowing that something ultimatum could fly at them??? It seems that in the 90s the CIA took all the keys and launch codes away from sin while they were here as if they were at home. Nonsense? Let them prove otherwise!!!
    1. +3
      4 June 2025 16: 03
      Quote: RSS_ZOV
      with villas go to MO

      One was already walking, marching.
      They sent me to fly on a plane with a grenade.
      However, it won't work.
    2. 0
      4 June 2025 17: 51
      Quote: RSS_ZOV
      We need to go to MO with villas

      Introduced those going to the Ministry of Defense with villas. Chetarzhu laughing

      Quote: RSS_ZOV
      It seems that in the 90s the CIA took all the keys and launch codes away to be on the safe side while they were here as if they were at home

      This is schizophrenia.

      Quote: RSS_ZOV
      Nonsense? Let them prove otherwise!!!

      To whom? To a local petty provocateur? wink
    3. +1
      4 June 2025 18: 06
      "We need to go to the Ministry of Defense with villas and demand"
      why? They have plenty of their own villas there, they stole them
  46. -2
    4 June 2025 16: 01
    Hangars are needed.
    And ideally 3 times more than the aircraft fleet (let's say they use up the warheads when it starts).
    1. -1
      5 June 2025 12: 11
      if mobile internet and communication were constantly turned off within a radius of 50 km, we wouldn't get anywhere at all
      1. 0
        9 June 2025 09: 26
        And how much can you move airfields, military units of the Strategic Missile Forces, training grounds and other observatories?

        And if the latter simply does not work due to illumination and the population does not need it, then without airfields, military units of the Strategic Missile Forces and other things, the population can sharply and suddenly become less dense.
        So stop being selfish.
        Firstly, they knew what they were getting into when they settled nearby, secondly, there is wired Internet, thirdly, it is necessary for those who "neeeeeeease nitro connection!! 111".
  47. 0
    4 June 2025 16: 22
    The power in Ukraine is held by a showman who is quite good at asymmetrical attacks, and this time his show was clearly a success. But it didn't change anything.

    Why didn't it change? The degree of the conflict has increased. Russia now has the right to use nuclear weapons against Ukrainian facilities:
    for example against Kyiv bridges.
  48. 0
    4 June 2025 17: 12
    Empty talk about "responses".

    You'd think that without the "Web" Ukraine wouldn't be bombed almost every day.
    It is much more important to remember that after 3 years of "demilitarization" Ukraine is conducting massive UAV raids, which it simply did not have before "demilitarization". And it is developing its own missiles, which it also did not have.
    And who will not answer for this.
    1. 0
      5 June 2025 12: 11
      before their time drones did not exist and therefore there were no strikes
      1. -1
        5 June 2025 18: 04
        Oh well. But the Syrians, Jews, and Americans used it quite well.
        There were no mass ones. Because it was unnecessary, and they got by with a few before the SVO
        And news about mass use came after the escalation...
        1. 0
          5 June 2025 18: 09
          Many classes of drones did not exist at all.
          1. 0
            9 June 2025 10: 13
            and?
            Classic arms race + bitterness.
  49. +1
    4 June 2025 17: 21
    "Options for Russia's response to the destruction of part of the nuclear shield":
    - express concern;
    - Well, and the red lines, as a tribute to tradition;
  50. +1
    4 June 2025 17: 34
    "The physical elimination of those responsible for the terrorist act could be adequate and quite proportionate. The demonstrative destruction of important Bandera symbols also looks good. For example, the complex of buildings on Bankov"
    Dream on, author, dream on. Nothing will happen, no adequate response, they're sending Iskanders "in that direction", well, maybe they're crawling along some pipe laughing . and that's all
  51. 0
    4 June 2025 18: 02
    It feels like a heavyweight was put in the ring with a dwarf. But for some reason the heavyweight's legs and hands were tied. And the dwarf had brass knuckles put in his gloves. So the dwarf can't win, and the heavyweight can't hit...
  52. +2
    4 June 2025 18: 20
    I'm sick of reading all these articles! I'm fed up! I'm tired! There's nothing but lies all around.
    I....
  53. -1
    4 June 2025 18: 35
    Apparently we should wait for the strikes on the silo! Maybe then the Dark One will at least decide on something worthwhile?! Or else he will run to the nearest stationery store again, for red pencils! 😮
  54. +1
    4 June 2025 18: 36
    I am shocked that there are no weapons anywhere, but there is also no equipment to protect the airfields. Everyone to the SVO?
  55. 0
    4 June 2025 19: 06
    Why is there no protection for aircraft with pump-action weapons, ZSU 23-2 is ridiculous against drones and at a distance of 200-300 meters. Footage from Olenegorsk is an example of this☝️
    1. 0
      5 June 2025 12: 09
      weapons won't help but if mobile internet and communication were constantly turned off within a radius of 50 km then we wouldn't have gotten anywhere at all
    2. 0
      5 June 2025 12: 41
      There should be shells there...
  56. +1
    4 June 2025 22: 08
    What nonsense, the author suggests in response to simply hint at a possible answer, but without the answer itself )))
    1. 0
      5 June 2025 12: 44
      Because it doesn't exist...
  57. +1
    4 June 2025 23: 26
    Russia itself is to blame for all its troubles and misfortunes. Until it comes to its senses, everyone and their dog will beat it up. They bred thieves, blockheads, degenerates, and this is the result. Shame and disgrace 🤦. They call it a state... Four years of their own, but seriously, the only one in the piggy bank is Mariupol. A deep bow to the guys on the front lines. They are definitely not to blame for the fact that the generals are thieves, that the officials are thieves, and the Kremlin is a sniveling wretch. It's kind of dreary at heart. Today I found out that my friend's ex-husband died in the North-Eastern Military District. He was torn to shreds 😞🤦. The remains were identified by DNA. How much longer will this all go on?
  58. 0
    4 June 2025 23: 46
    There are more questions than answers, why are airfields not protected at all?
    The bridges are not guarded, under the Soviet regime the bridges were guarded by guards
    what's happening now?? and what tomorrow?? are they organizing the capture of tiao??
    1. 0
      5 June 2025 12: 40
      They are guarded, but most likely in the old-fashioned way - by Karatsupa and Mukhtar.... Rockets haven't flown to us yet. In general, we are still well prepared for Hitler's attack.....
  59. -1
    5 June 2025 04: 17
    And how about soaking in the toilet???
  60. +2
    5 June 2025 12: 37
    AFTER A FIGHT THERE'S NO WAVING WITH FISTS! A large-scale sabotage was "blundered". We need to draw conclusions and fix the situation with the protection of military facilities and enterprises. Perhaps the defense department does not have the necessary specialists or security services, because the type of sabotage has changed since World War II. There is no need to manually plant a bomb under a car - you can attach it to a radio-controlled toy car and blow you up together with your transport from the other end of the world...
    There must be some kind of new standard for security...
  61. 0
    5 June 2025 13: 21
    What total blockade of the Black Sea? What are you talking about? Our fleet hid in Novorossiysk Bay behind booms, the Black Sea is controlled by the Ukrainians through their unmanned boats.
    1. +1
      5 June 2025 13: 56
      They don't have "their own". NATO countries provide them with boats. England tries especially hard.
  62. +2
    5 June 2025 13: 54
    The author either does not understand what one of the elements of the nuclear triad means or, most likely, is trying to pull the wool over people's eyes.
  63. DO
    +2
    5 June 2025 14: 05
    The author forgot to mention the bridges over the Dnieper, which have been functioning properly for the fourth year, the Beskid tunnel, the depot where trains from the West are changed, and other elements of the transport infrastructure of the Ukrainian Reich. Along which military cargo is continuously transported from the West to kill our soldiers and civilians.
  64. +1
    5 June 2025 19: 56
    Revenge is a cold dish The military conflict between Russia and Ukraine is distinguished by the unequal status of the two rivals. On the one hand, a nuclear power that can provide itself with weapons, on the other, a Western proxy with a small population that has no significant targets left for demonstrative retaliation. Repeat last year's Oreshnik tests and strike Yuzhmash?
    Author, what are you saying, really. There are many critical facilities on the territory of the Ukrainian Reich, the whole world, and especially our General Staff knows about them. There is no command, that's what this, pardon me, Strange Military Operation lacks. There is no Supreme Commander-in-Chief. That is, there seems to be a position, a person on it, but there is no Commander-in-Chief! Well, no! Apparently, the one who will sort out the Outskirts to the end has not been born yet! And the fact that war correspondents show movies is for... . However, let everyone decide for themselves. How they see and evaluate this "movie". sad
  65. 0
    5 June 2025 20: 01
    Quote: Anyuta Slavnaya
    Russia itself is to blame for all its troubles and misfortunes. Until it comes to its senses, everyone and their dog will beat it up. They bred thieves, blockheads, degenerates, and this is the result. Shame and disgrace 🤦. They call it a state... Four years of their own, but seriously, the only one in the piggy bank is Mariupol. A deep bow to the guys on the front lines. They are definitely not to blame for the fact that the generals are thieves, that the officials are thieves, and the Kremlin is a sniveling wretch. It's kind of dreary at heart. Today I found out that my friend's ex-husband died in the North-Eastern Military District. He was torn to shreds 😞🤦. The remains were identified by DNA. How much longer will this all go on?

    Darling, the Supreme Commander is responsible for everything, although he will never admit it. It was the Great Stalin who made a toast to the Soviet people, in which he said that there were mistakes, but the Soviet people, the good people, did not expel the country's leadership. Something like that, let me be corrected. This one will never admit it, because he is a "Mol". sad
  66. +1
    5 June 2025 21: 47
    Evgeny Fedorov, you spent so long trying to convince VO readers that the loss of a tenth (!) of the "strategists" is so-so and not worth such public attention - there are not many people here who will believe the "Peskov blizzard". Even in military terms, this is too much, and in image terms, it is simply super expensive!
    The enemy is fighting Russia "like adults", and "we haven't started yet"! For three years, citizens of the country and sympathizers abroad have seen blatant incompetence, going hand in hand with corruption and betrayal. And only the heroism of the lower echelons of the Army saves from disaster.
    And what kind of revenge and retribution can we even talk about when the basic rules of war were followed and bridges and tunnels were destroyed and the country was cut off from power. And SMERSH would be working on this side!
    But here's the problem - business interests turn out to be above the Motherland.
    The people are outraged not only and not so much by the treacherous loss of expensive and important weapons, but more by the lies and hypocrisy of those in power!
    Everything that the explainers of what happened "bleat" is very similar to the end of the old saying: "...we would have given it to them if they had caught up with us!"
  67. 0
    5 June 2025 21: 55
    Several such attacks, which "did not cause much damage" and there will be 0 left from the air force. The response, as always, is a box with thick red markers.
  68. 0
    5 June 2025 23: 12
    Ryabkov, the deputy foreign minister, said today that nothing was destroyed, there are a couple of scratches and everything will be fixed. No damage was caused. That's the half-truth, half-lie.
  69. +1
    6 June 2025 00: 17
    The article is rubbish, in the worst propaganda traditions: a brain enema with anesthetic to calm the seething righteous and just anger of the “respectable public”.
    An attempt to cover up another mega-blunder has been counted.
    Welcome to the glorious cohort of stavers and non-dillers, Mr. Fedorov.))
  70. 0
    6 June 2025 09: 18
    I understood the author's position as follows: if we answer, they will misunderstand and we may lose our chosen face
    1. 0
      7 June 2025 18: 47
      The most correct answer is to think about the question, is it really necessary to launch cruise missiles from an airplane (cruise missiles themselves can fly) for example, unload the installation from a van onto the asphalt, launch the missile, then load the installation back into the van and there will be no headaches with building airplanes, operating airfields, training crews and many, many others, and then a large airplane can be tracked from space both in the parking lot and in flight, by the way, an airplane cannot be used for permanent storage of missiles, and it must be guarded constantly, even when it is empty.
  71. 0
    7 June 2025 20: 22
    "... Let's turn to Israel's experience again,....." There is no need to turn to anyone's experience.... RUSSIA has more than enough of its own experience.... It is simply necessary to fight "like adults", without looking back at "international public opinion" and all the "snot" of traditional European values, taking off the "white gloves" and putting them in your pocket until the next Victory Parade, over the next European fascism.... And regarding the "critically important objects" on the territory of the Ukroreikh: there is a vague premonition that they have long been the property of the domestic oligarchy... The conclusions "suggest themselves...
    1. WIS
      0
      7 June 2025 20: 30
      Quote from nordscout
      RUSSIA has more than enough experience of its own

      Excuse me, but what does this have to do with you?
      1. 0
        7 June 2025 20: 40
        WIS, I accept your apology. Regarding the "relationship" - direct....
        1. WIS
          0
          7 June 2025 20: 54
          Thank you. To be honest, at first I noticed only half of the handle (bayonet) of the swing, I thought, drg.
          Probably age.
          We just have to fight.

          и
          important objects" on the territory of the Ukrainian Reich: there is a vague premonition that they, already,

          - so it's... "one stick with two ends."
          And how to be?
          1. 0
            7 June 2025 20: 57
            And for Russia, every stick always has two ends... Haven't you noticed???
  72. WIS
    0
    7 June 2025 21: 18
    So far away are the tentacles SBU They haven't invaded Russia yet and caused such critical damage.

    It is worth soberly assessing the situation. It is the development of a new type of WEAPON (UAV) that contributes to the manifestation of such a scale of terror.
    The SBU (or whoever else) is just an executor. And it's time to end the game with this weapon.
    Trump, it seems to me, having advanced modern technologies at his disposal, did not expect, in fact, from her, a possible stab in the back, doubting for “his safety.”
    Revenge is a dish best eaten cold
    - ahem
    I'm glad that at least fiber optics was not the last thing we mastered.
  73. +1
    8 June 2025 01: 13
    It is a great pity that many authors and commentators are still so far from progress and understanding of the structure of technology. All they want is to bomb and wipe out in the toilet. But there were Israeli demonstration operations with pagers, there was a joint operation of the US and Israel against the Iranian nuclear program (Stuxnet). But we can only suggest bombing. Why not:
    1 modify the firmware (as they did with stuxnet at the time) of drones so that they fly incorrectly or do not fly at all, but detonate immediately in the operator's hands
    2 drone batteries are all imported and take into account the experience of pagers.
    3 many Ukrainian KRI facilities are also controlled by various electronics and by slightly breaking the code in it, production can be stopped seriously and for a long time.
    4 drop a container with the UMPC with similar drones that will connect to local Ukrainian mobile networks and operate locally.
    5 similarly bring a container with drones from the West. In many places in the West you can stuff a container in a similar way and send it to the right place by roundabout routes
    6 destroy supplies of batteries for drones. They are expensive, imported, and without them the drone will not fly.
    7 think up something similar with Starlink terminals, so that they either fail or issue their cardinals or drop them to the required network address.
  74. kig
    +1
    8 June 2025 07: 06
    I can't understand what this is all about, what kind of answer the author is dreaming of, and what got the author and the commentators so excited. Well, yes, drones flew in from an unexpected place, so what? Our own Ministry of Defense officially reports:
    At military airfields in the Ivanovo, Ryazan and Amur regions, all terrorist attacks were repelled.
    In the Murmansk and Irkutsk regions, as a result of the launch of FPV drones from the territory located in the immediate vicinity of airfields, several units of aircraft caught fire.
    The fires have been extinguished. There are no casualties among military personnel or civilians.

    Well, it's unpleasant, but nothing terrible happened. The drones buzzed, set something on fire, so what, it's the first time or something. Time to get used to it.