Like the Israelites, the radar was stolen from the Egyptians. From the memoirs of a military translator

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Like the Israelites, the radar was stolen from the Egyptians. From the memoirs of a military translator


This incredible event occurred at the end of 1969, in Egypt, at the height of the so-called “war of attrition”. On the night of 26 on December 27, on the Red Sea coast, a group of Israeli commandoes managed to capture an Egyptian Soviet-made radar station and fly it to the Sinai Peninsula with helicopters. Thirty years later, the editorial board managed to find one of the direct witnesses of this emergency ...

ON FRONT

For me, a student of the Military Institute of Foreign Languages, sent to Egypt as a military translator, this Arab-Israeli war began on November 30 of the year 1969. On that day, early in the morning, together with Major Taras Panchenko, an adviser from the 3 Mechanized Division, we left Cairo for the front. Our path lay in a distant, as it seemed, romantic Red Sea military district * [* - in the Armed Forces of Egypt, the territory was also divided by districts]. Like the Suez Canal, it was also considered a war zone, although less active.

Zaafarana. Suez Bay First day at the front. November 30 1969 of the year


By the evening, having overcome almost 300 km, we safely reached the location of the 19-th separate infantry brigade, stationed on the coast of the Gulf of Suez. With her defensive positions she blocked the wide Zaafaran Valley, which stretched deep into the Arabian desert almost to the Nile.

In September and early October, the brigade was brutally bombed. During one of the raids our adviser was killed. Now it was relatively calm here. The tragic events of those days were reminded only by the skeletons of burnt machinery and huge craters from thousand-pound Israeli bombs. This remote area, like the entire coast of the Red Sea, was not covered by the Egyptian air defense, and the Israeli pilots felt very confident here, as on the range.

Considering the half-meter length and the finger-thick saber fragments from bombs, I realized that I probably would not have to swim, sunbathe and break corals for souvenirs. Calm Cairo life with all the exotic big eastern city somehow immediately left in the past, and the immediate prospects of our new life no longer seemed so rosy.

504 TH BATTALLON

At the brigade headquarters, it turned out that the 504 Infantry Battalion, where we were to work, was redeployed 145 km south to the area of ​​Ras Garib, a small village of Egyptian oil workers.

Arriving at the site and listening to an energetic briefing by the senior adviser to the brigade, we stopped for the night in the “Habir” dugout * [* - the Egyptians called all the Soviet advisers and specialists]. In the morning they began to prepare for departure.

For work, we were given a GAZ-63 truck that looked like it. Two simple soldiers' beds with mattresses full of bedbugs were placed in its covered body, all whipped by shrapnel. Thus, for the first time, we had a vehicle and even a roof over our heads. After tasting a kvass track made from dry Egyptian flatbread, and saying goodbye to the brigadier advisers, we set off.

Honestly speaking, while watching the road landscapes in a completely wild, but in our own way beautiful nature of the Red Sea coast, we did not feel dark forebodings. However, they did not feel the particular joy of being at this “resort”, which is now being lured by Russian tourists. The battalion was to act in isolation from the main forces, in the event of a sharp deterioration in the operational-tactical situation, the brigade could not be counted on.



Along the way, black-brown corpses of burned-out equipment stood by the sides of the road. I especially remember the Egyptian BTR-152. He stood, buried in a roadside cliff. In the back board there was a large jagged hole from an Israeli NURS, released by Skyhawk or Mirage aircraft. It was clear that the professional pilot was working. I remembered the farewell to one of our colleagues from Zaafaran: “If something happens, throw the car and run in different directions into the desert. According to a single person, they will not allow rockets. ”

The battalion commander, Lieutenant Colonel Mustafa Zibib, and other Egyptian officers greeted us cordially. The battalion only recently came to Ras Garib and now was engaged in engineering equipment positions. The dugouts here, as in Zaafaranu. not yet - well, just did not have time to dig. Therefore, for some time we had to spend the night under an awning removed from our truck. On top of the tent, we covered camouflage net. It immediately became clear that we do not have many things that are essential for life in the field. In this regard, the Egyptians helped us a lot at first. Another surprise for us was the then started Ramadan * [* - in the days of Ramadan, Muslims are forbidden to take food from sunrise to sunset].
Breakfast was brought only late in the evening. Already in the dark, sitting on the beds under our awning, we ate unusual Arab food, which, moreover, was pretty sprinkled with sand. As for lunch and dinner, for the sake of sleep, we chose to give them up altogether. So we had to fast involuntarily, like all faithful Muslims.

On the second day, we began to get acquainted in detail with the situation, the forces and the means at our disposal, as well as the area in which the 504 battalion was to operate.

The battalion was responsible for covering the coast - 120 km along the front and 80 km in depth, which did not fit into any tactical standards. According to the combat mission, this Egyptian unit was intended to prevent the possible landing of an enemy amphibious assault on the coast and to ensure the security of “important facilities” in the sector. Particular attention was paid to ensuring the security of the radar station. To strengthen the battalion from the brigade, additional forces were given: tanks T-34, a battery of 120 mm mortars and a mixed anti-tank battery of 57 mm guns and recoilless B-11 guns. However, to repel raids aviation the enemy had only three DShK machine guns.



In addition to our infantry battalion, in the area of ​​Ras Garib there was a battalion of “People’s Defense”, staffed with soldiers of pre-retirement age. This kind of “vokhra” was engaged in guarding the facilities of a local oil company, and, frankly speaking, there was little real benefit from such fighters.

Oil and everything related to it didn’t cause much concern to us. According to our information, there was a tacit agreement between Egypt and Israel - not to touch such objects. Moreover, the same Egyptian company extracted oil together with the Americans in Shukeyr.

The real "headache" for us was a radio engineering company. More precisely, not the company itself, but its radar station, which the Arabs simply called “radar”.

Located on the hills in 8 km from the coast and in 5 – 6 km from our battalion, the radar reconnaissance aircraft in the central sector of the Gulf of Suez. The station’s security is a dozen soldiers for whom no trenches were even opened. The company commander himself was in the position of the so-called “false radar”, closer to the coast, approximately 2 km from the present station.

The false radar was a bulky knoll with a piece of iron stuck into it, apparently depicting a radar antenna. The object was covered with rows of barbed wire with signal mines and five batteries of paired anti-aircraft machine guns of Soviet and American production.

This position housed more than 400 personnel. It was believed that in this way the enemy would be misled about the true location of the radar.

Such a “wise” plan of the company commander was accordingly decorated on a large sheet of drawing paper and approved by the ornate list of the commander of the Egyptian radio-technical forces. Naturally, we immediately reported our categorical disagreement with this situation to the senior adviser of the brigade, who promised to investigate.

By that time, almost the entire territory of the Red Sea Military District was a zone of active operations not only of Israeli fighter-bombers, but also of helicopters. It was the helicopters that posed a real threat, as they flew at low altitude, out of sight of the radar.

Radar P-12


I must say that in Zaafaran, in the vicinity of the brigade, there was a second such radar station. The Israelis bombed it several times, but they could not destroy it - the Egyptian anti-aircraft artillery forced Israeli pilots to rise to two to three thousand meters, because of which the accuracy of the bombardment sharply decreased. We have not been bothered by the enemy aircraft yet. But for some time after dark, and especially on moonlit nights, helicopters began to appear in our sector.

Entering from the sea, between Zaafarana and Ras Garib, they entered the depths of the desert and returned back to Sinai only at three or four in the morning. The purpose of their appearance in our country and the nature of possible actions could only be guessed at. It was considered quite probable that the landing of the enemy helicopter assault in the area of ​​the location of the radar station in order to destroy it. In order to prevent such an operation, we made it possible for one of the battalion’s mouths to advance to the position of “radar”. Soon, in the presence of the chief of staff of the brigade, they even conducted a training session with the personnel of the company.

From morning until late evening, we were engaged in the so-called organization of the battle: we carried out reconnaissance, clarified the tasks for the units on the ground, determined the firing positions for the guns and mortars. At night, when the enemy helicopters reappeared, they sat in the battalion of the battalion commander and were anxiously awaiting reports of their actions. At dawn, making sure that the helicopters left our area, tired, went to sleep under their awning.

For several weeks, the situation in the sector remained virtually unchanged. At night, I had to think not only about the possible reflection of the landing, but also about my own security. For us already prepared dugout. True, the door in it was not locked, besides there was no security. Every night I had to take an automatic machine from our driver, Suleiman, just in case. It was funny to remember how, even in Cairo, before leaving for the Red Sea, some important rank of political workers frightened us with his parting words: “Just try to be captured by the Jews — put the party membership cards on the table ...”

After some time, a reconnaissance aircraft began to appear in the sky quite often. All said that the Israelis are carefully studying the area. However, the situation on the coast remained calm.

In the evening, December 26, after dinner, as always came to the battalion's dugout. It was necessary to discuss the work plan for the next day. About twenty-two hours a telephone message arrived that two enemy helicopters had penetrated 50 km north of the battalion’s location into our territory. This has happened before, so unfortunately we did not attach much importance to this message. During a conversation on current affairs, Major Panchenko unexpectedly suggested that the battalion commander raise the first company of an alert and conduct a night training session on advancing the enemy’s conditional landing to the intended landing site.

Honestly, even today, thirty years later, it is difficult for me to say with absolute certainty what then was the best for us: to conduct or not to conduct this training. If such a doctrine really took place, we probably would have thwarted the operation to the enemy. Another question: “What consequences would have expected us?” Probably the next day, the Israelis would have mixed the battalion with sand with their air strikes.

In this assumption there is no exaggeration. A familiar battalion adviser, a veteran of the Great Patriotic War, who actually learned in practice the full power of the Israeli bombardments on the Suez Canal, somehow compared the exchange of blows from the Egyptian and Israeli troops: Arab house window frame.

Later, I became convinced that the Israelis ’response was indeed always more powerful and larger in its consequences. Of course, we were ready to fulfill our military duty and solve the tasks set by the command, but nobody wanted to die in these wild Red Sea sands.
One way or another, but fate decreed in its own way. Lieutenant Colonel Zibib, having learned about our intentions to hold a training session, expressed his displeasure.
I think the battalion commander simply did not want to do this: the training would have ended only by morning.

The discussion ended with the fact that we were shown a formal instruction, which forbade the conduct of any classes in the event of the declaration of a certain degree of combat readiness. The battalion at that time really was in the second degree of such readiness. New reports of the appearance of enemy helicopters have not been received, and everyone calmed down.

Flying

Before midnight, the battalion commander suggested everyone go to bed, which we did. Zibib himself and the chief of staff remained on duty in the dugout.



Tired of the day, I immediately fell asleep. Taras, as it turned out, did not sleep. Later he said that then he had some kind of bad feeling. In the middle of the night, he unexpectedly woke me up: “Igor! Do you hear? Airplane rumble. Go outside. Look what is there? ”

Half asleep, I reluctantly got out of bed, put my foot in my shoes and in some shorts and t-shirt came out of the dugout. It was chilly. A cold wind blew from the sea. Bright full moon. In the distance, there was indeed an unusually strong roar of the jet engines of several aircraft.
- This is probably a scout! - I shouted, without even thinking: “What kind of such aerial reconnaissance can be at night?”.

The buzz was getting stronger. One of the aircraft was somewhere very close, although it was not visible. When I was about to descend the stairs, a strong explosion rang out two hundred meters from me, and a second later, a second one. Bright flashes marked the places of breaks.
Started an air raid. Hours showed twenty five minutes of the first.

- Anxiety, bombed! - I shouted and rolled head over heels into the dugout.

Quickly dressed and jumping out, they ran to the side of the battalion of the battalion commander, to which there were three hundred meters. The roar of jet engines tormented the air. Right and left bombs and missiles fired from aircraft were torn.

In the dugout, where, besides the battalion commander, were the chief of staff, an intelligence officer and a liaison officer, we first asked to report the situation.

“What could be the situation,” answered Lieutenant Colonel Zibib nervously. - Do not you see that we were bombed?
- What is reported from the "radar"? - asked Taras.
- They are also bombed.

We also knew that the radio engineering company was being bombed, because we saw red strings of anti-aircraft missile tracer - the batteries of the false radar fired. Our machine-gun platoon was silent. Combat explained this by the fact that the aircraft in the dark is still not visible and firing is inappropriate.

“If we open fire, the enemy will bomb even more,” said Zibib.

The Arabs, fearing that the light in the dugout could be seen from the air, turned off the lamps. By telephone they contacted the companies and the commander of the radio engineering company. On the radio, they tried to establish contact with our “ambush” platoon, which, even before the raid, at twenty-two hours, should have taken its position near the radar station.

It turned out that all this time the platoon, in violation of the order, was not in ambush, but in the position of a false radar. The platoon commander, as we learned later, drank tea with the company commander. By the same radar platoon began to move only with the beginning of the air raid. The last message of the platoon commander: "I can not move on." I'm bombed. ” In the future, our senior lieutenant did not respond to our calls.

After a couple of days, during a thorough survey of the area on the platoon advancement route, we did not find a single crater.

The intensity of the airstrike was increasing. At some moments it seemed that we would not reach the morning. One of the bombs exploded between the battalion’s dugout battalion and the battalion’s communications center. Somewhere in the middle of the second night the commander of a radio-technical company contacted us. He said that he sees a fire at the position of the radar. According to him, “the station itself was apparently destroyed by a bomb hit, since there is no connection with it”. After that, the connection was interrupted. Soon the wired connection ceased with all other companies. The battalion commander refused to send signalers: "Soldiers may die."

At half past four in the morning one of the rank and file, exposed by the battalion commander for observation, reported a strange sound. Running upstairs, we heard a very powerful and characteristic rumble of helicopter engines. The first assumption: “The enemy, under the cover of aviation, intends to land a landing party!” Running up to the top of the nearest hill, from where for some seconds they noticed dark silhouettes that were moving towards the desert. Then we did not know why the company did not open fire on these helicopters ...

Soon there was silence. Only the single hum of an approaching plane is heard. Standing on the top of the hill, we did not even have time to discuss what we saw. Everything happened unexpectedly. With some hiss and a whistle, the missiles fired from the aircraft flew over us when we rushed headlong away.

After releasing the ammunition and turning on the afterburner, the plane went in the direction of the Sinai Peninsula. Silence again.

With difficulty moving our legs for fatigue, we trudged into our dugout. Our driver was sitting there.

- Well, Suleiman, was it scary? - I asked as fun as possible. In response, the soldier just smiled crookedly:
- Fearfully.
Without undressing lay down on the bed. After about thirty to forty minutes, the telephone rang.
“Mr. Igor,” the battalion commander turned to me. - The Jews stole the radar.
From surprise, I did not even understand right away.
- How was it stolen? What exactly was stolen? The answer was unintelligible: whether they stole some important part, or a radar block, or something else ...

A few minutes later we were again in the dugout of Lieutenant Colonel Zibib. Things were very bad. This we understood immediately, we barely saw the upset face of the battalion commander. From Zibib's confused explanations, it followed that "the position of the radar station no longer exists." She just disappeared! This was announced by radio platoon commander, who only now finally got to the place of his "ambush".
We decided that we would go to the radar at dawn and see for ourselves. They learned that as a result of a raid in the battalion, two soldiers were killed, more than a dozen were injured.

Having agreed that the battalion commander will inform us about the time of departure, we returned to our dugout. A little nap. However, at nine in the morning we were awakened by a major, who had arrived from the brigade headquarters to investigate the incident.

Investigation of what happened before the new year. We have not received an absolutely accurate picture of the operation carried out by the Israelis, but some details were found out.

They recalled the frequent appearance of Israeli helicopters and reconnaissance aircraft - the enemy was carefully preparing for the operation. Interestingly, ten days before the incident, a ciphered message came to the battalion through military intelligence channels about training Israeli paratroopers at Sinai - they were practicing the seizure of some object. Kombat then told us nothing about this cipher telegram.



It turned out that before the start of the air strike, about twenty-three hours or a little later, two heavy French-made Super Frelon helicopters (the most heavy-lifting helicopter in the Israeli Air Force of that time) with a hijacking group flew to the radar position. It is about these helicopters and told us the post of air surveillance. We found the tracks of the wheels of one of them at the landing site, in a deep ravine at 300 m from the station. Following specific tracks in the sand, the type of helicopter was determined.

The radar station did not work at that moment, and the calculation itself was engaged in maintenance in the equipment room, so that the approach of the enemy’s helicopters went unnoticed. Later, I accidentally learned from the sergeant of our hozvvod that he personally saw the flight of two helicopters before the bombing began and even reported it to the battalion commander by phone. But he said to him: “You all had a dream. You're just a coward. ” I still don’t know why Zibib didn’t tell us about his conversation with the sergeant.

One way or another, but by midnight the position of the radar was already captured by the enemy. In the footsteps of Israel’s landing shoes in the sand, it was possible to establish routes to their station. Nearby found the position of machine gunners, covering the actions of paratroopers. Two soldiers of the guard radar were killed, the survivors fled into the wilderness.

The main part of the operation was carried out under the cover of air strikes. The enemy, apparently, allowed the detection of the landing of the landing force and, therefore, undertook an airstrike: to press the battalion to the ground, not to allow it to advance to the radar. In any case, the Israelis even bombed the exit from the Zaafaran Valley to the road to Ras Gharib. All in all, on this night, Israeli aircraft made 36 sorties.
After capturing the position of the radar, three more heavy helicopters arrived there. Their appearance was also noticed by aerial surveillance posts. Having cut the fastening brackets with an autogen, the Israelis dismantled both parts of the radar station very professionally: the hardware and antenna mast radar devices - and on the external suspension system of the two “Super Frelons” they transferred them to the Sinai Peninsula. Only the chassis of two ZIL-157 vehicles remained lonely in the position.

The diesel generator, powered radar, paratroopers blew up. It was this burning diesel generator that the company commander saw from a false radar.

Together with the station, her crew was captured and abducted. Before leaving for Sinai, the Israelis carefully mined their position: there were time bombs and ordinary anti-personnel mines. In the cabins of ZILs, the sappers discovered “surprises” mines.

This whole dark epic with the theft of the radar made a lot of noise. Among our advisers and specialists in Cairo, the only talk was about "how the Jews stole the radar on the Red Sea."

Later, with great surprise, we learned more and more new details of that Israeli operation. One of these “experts” of all the events taught us: “Since you knew that the enemy landing had landed, you had to get on the tank and personally head the nomination of the company to the radar. By destroying the landing, you could earn on the "Red Star" ... "

Later, as if responding to this monologue, Taras angrily remarked: “It’s better not to have these“ stars ”at all, than to get them on the scarlet pads”.

Too serious were the consequences of what happened. The enemy managed to steal a completely modern radar P-12PM, which was at that time armed with not only Egyptian, but also Soviet air defense. The station worked in the meter range and had a detection range of about 200 km. In the troops, it was used not only for detecting air targets and issuing target indications to various air defense weapons, but also for interfacing with the air defense systems of the country's Air Defense Forces.

With the seizure of the station, the enemy was able to get acquainted in detail with our system of identification of the nationality of the aircraft "Silicon-1" installed on the radar.

WHO NEEDS A STATION?

The Israelis themselves chose not to advertise the operation. In any case, the “Voice of Israel” from Jerusalem in Russian, who liked to comment news about the success of the Israeli army, on this issue stubbornly silent. Only a couple of months later, BBC Radio reported that "there is a group of American specialists in Israel who are studying the Soviet radar station abducted by Israeli paratroopers on the Red Sea coast." Thus, the confirmation that our specialists from the radio engineering troops expressed was confirmed: “The station was needed not so much by the Israelis as by the Americans.”



EPILOG

In the meantime, clouds continued to thicken over our heads. They said that the case was allegedly under the control of President Nasser himself. And the conclusions really soon followed. All the main participants in the events — the commander of our 504 battalion, the commander of the radio engineering company, the platoon commander of the ambush, the commander of the RTV, the commander of the radio engineering battalion that included the company, and eight runaway soldiers were put on trial. The commander of the military district was removed from his post and was dismissed from the army.

On the personal orders of Nasser, one of the best Egyptian generals of that time, Major General Saad al-Din Chazley, who participated in the six-day war 1967 of the year and fighting in Yemen, was appointed the new district commander. As part of the Egyptian Expeditionary Corps, he commanded special forces and was considered a great connoisseur of the tactics of Israeli paratroopers. Later, on the eve of the October 1973 war, he will be appointed chief of the General Staff.

The meeting of the military tribunal took place in January. It took place in one of the premises of the headquarters of the Red Sea Military District in Al-Gardak. Taras and I were also there. The battalion commander took us as witnesses. However, we were never invited to the court, only to talk with one of the staff officers.

At first we thought that everything would be fine and the sentences would not be too harsh. However, everything turned out to be much worse, especially for Zibib. Until now, I remember how this middle-aged lieutenant colonel, in his last meeting with us, even before the end of the trial and the announcement of the sentence, wept bitterly, repeating only one word: “iadam” (the death penalty). Apparently, he already knew his fate.

Indeed, the next day the tribunal sentenced Lieutenant Colonel Zibib and two other races of Garib officers to be shot. The commander of the radio engineering troops and the commander of the radio engineering battalion received twenty-five years in prison. Such a harsh decision of the court then caused a great resonance among Egyptian officers, who in general sympathized with the convicted. In connection with the incident in Ras Gariba, the Minister of War issued a special order, which was communicated to all officers of the Egyptian armed forces.

A month later, a new radar station was brought to Ras Garib. Now she was surrounded not only with barbed wire and anti-aircraft batteries, but also prepared for the explosion, although it was unlikely that the Israelis were going to “steal” the same station again.

Two years later, during the second trip to Egypt, I accidentally met in Cairo a former commander of a machine-gun company from our battalion. I learned from him that the new Egyptian President Anwar Sadat had pardoned the convicts and Lieutenant Colonel Zibib is in good health. By that time, in the Soviet Union, stations of this type were modernized, with a dozen years they stood in service with the internal air defense districts.
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  1. +10
    April 15 2013 07: 47
    This is how it is described on the other hand:
    “Israel's Best Defense” by Col. Eliezer 'Cheetah' Cohen. (New York: Orion Books,
    1993). The author, a veteran of the Israeli Air Force with the rank of colonel and with 24 years of service behind him, talks about the history of Israeli military aviation.
    http://www.waronline.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6487
    Soviet radar stations captured by the Israelis during the Six Day War were carefully studied, their secrets were revealed and new, more sophisticated electronic devices were created in Israel to deal with these radars that were still used by the Egyptians.

    Egyptian airspace was protected by a Soviet-made network of 47 radar stations. Most of these stations were damaged by bombing by Israeli aircraft. However, this success of the Israeli Air Force was only temporary. The mass of new equipment was delivered from the USSR by dozens of transport aircraft, landing at Egyptian airfields weekly.

    Soon, Israeli pilots began to report that their anti-radar devices did not have the desired effect on the new Egyptian radars. The planes were discovered by the Egyptians at an early stage of the mission and their actions were significantly opposed. It seemed that the Egyptians had an improved radar model capable of operating at a different frequency when the Israelis jammed the previous frequency with interference. The main protection of Israeli pilots from early detection were flights at extremely low altitudes.

    The new Egyptian radars became the subject of close attention for the intelligence of the General Staff and the Israeli Air Force. Electronic warfare was, above all, a war of minds. Revealing the secrets of new enemy technology would allow Israeli aviation to neutralize its effect and even use it in their interests. Israeli e-war specialists were eager to get their hands on samples of the most important parts of these radars.

    The Israelis landed troops from several tanks and armored vehicles on the opposite side of the Gulf of Suez, which captured several radar stations, but they all turned out to be of the old type. Intelligence determined that on the Egyptian side there was only one station of a new type operating and its location could not be established. It was somewhere in a remote area, it was well camouflaged and its signals were difficult to decipher. This station constantly found Israeli planes in western Sinai, only on the approaches to Egyptian territory.

    However, after one of the reconnaissance flights, aerial survey decoders discovered some strange object in the region of Ras Arab. The picture was enlarged several times and electronic experts were invited to watch and express their opinion. On this night, the light did not dim in the decryption room until morning and by dawn all experts agreed that the strange object was nothing more than a secret P-12 radar installation, which they had been hunting for so much. The first spontaneous reaction was to bomb the station and the attack aircraft were already ready to fly on command to destroy the target. However, the development of events took a different turn.

    At that time, I was the head of the Integrated Operations sector of the Operations Division of the Air Force headquarters. In the morning, Jehiel and Rami entered my office after a sleepless night spent on aerial photographs. They laid out photographs in front of me, revealing the astounding fact that there were no air defense equipment around the radar station. Rami immediately proposed to suspend all attacks on Egyptian targets in the area.
  2. +8
    April 15 2013 07: 48
    I felt great respect for these two young people whose work was not particularly important, but whose initiative led to the idea and the development of a major operation. They worked with great diligence and perseverance, controlling the actions of the Egyptian Air Defense Commander of the area, until they revealed his secret and came to certain conclusions. Their idea captivated me and I felt that this was a precious chance that should not be missed. We went to Operations Manager David Ivry. He liked our offer. Right on the go, he outlined the most important points of a possible operation. A group of paratroopers should be landed near the station with Super Frelon helicopters. They will capture the station and check the radar for its transportation by air. If it turns out that the radar can be transported in its entirety, the CH-53 helicopters will fly behind it. If not, experts will take with them the most important parts of interest to intelligence.

    Air Force Commander Moti Hod approved our plan and the Chief of General Staff Bar-Lev did not mind, but demanded that all the technical aspects of the operation be carefully worked out. I immediately contacted the paratroop commander Raful. Thanks to our personal acquaintance, we immediately got down to business without wasting precious time. Moti Hod also rushed us not to lose the chance of success.

    Hasty preparations began the very next day. Nehemiah Dagan, the commander of the squadron of helicopters CH-53, told us that such a helicopter could raise 3 tons and possibly more. This meant that the locator could not be transported in its entirety and would have to be disassembled into parts. We immediately began testing helicopters for weight lifting. It soon became clear that the helicopter could raise a maximum of 4 tons, that is, half the weight of the installation. It was decided to divide the installation into two main parts: the station and the antenna. Nehemiah and Zavik Matas themselves had to pilot the helicopters. The operation we called the Rooster and it was supposed to be the first baptism of fire of a new type of helicopter in our Air Force. Pilots trained in transporting the P-10 radar station we captured during the Six Day War. They also recommended that the physically most powerful paratroopers be selected for this operation, as they would have to sling a load while in the center of a hurricane lifted by helicopter propellers hanging above a radar installation. Aerial photography showed that the installation is fixed in the back of the truck with cables. All night long, the selected paratroopers trained in cutting and welding, unfastening and slinging steel cables and huge bolts. Ezra, a radar specialist who was chosen to accompany the paratroopers, was among them and instructed them how to proceed so as not to damage the precious instruments. He also showed the paratroopers how to disassemble the antenna. The paratroopers completed their preparations on December 26. The Chief of the General Staff gave a green light and everything was ready for the operation to begin just 48 hours after the preparation began. It was decided that the aircraft would divert the attention of the Egyptians by bombing their positions in the installation area. The order for the operation was given before noon, and the start time of the operation was set to 22: 00 on Friday. The detachment arrived at the airfield in Ophir, and from there moved to the front-line airfield at the Gulf of Suez, just opposite Ras Arab, from where they were supposed to leave for the mission.
  3. +5
    April 15 2013 07: 48
    In 21: 00 warplanes took off from their bases and went on a distracting bombing of Egyptian military units located in the vicinity of the radar station. The noise of three Super Frelons with paratroopers on board drowned in the thunder of bomb explosions and in the roar of Skyhawk's jet engines diving into the position of the Egyptians. Due to the fact that the helicopters were loaded to capacity with personnel and equipment, landing was difficult. They maneuvered for ten minutes almost under the very nose of the Egyptians. Boarded six kilometers from the station. Already after the operation, it turned out that the paratroopers took with them much more equipment than was previously agreed.

    15 fighters blocked the area of ​​operation from possible activity of enemy aircraft, and 12 fighters prepared to destroy the Egyptian military unit located in tents a few kilometers from the radar station. Three groups of paratroopers prepared to disassemble the radar and load it onto helicopters. Two CH-53 were waiting in the wings on the Israeli side of the Gulf.

    The Egyptians managed to take by surprise. Their squad was smaller than expected and consisted of only a dozen soldiers. Several of them died in a shootout. The rest were captured.

    The paratroopers set about dismantling the radar. Ezra climbed onto the roof of the station and disconnected the antenna, while the others removed the cable. The hard and hard work took over an hour, some wrenches did not fit, and some broke. The welding machine replaced everything that was missing. Finally, the parts were dangled. In 2: 00, later than planned, the CH-53 pilots got a call to fly to the other side. Nehemiah carried a station weighing 4 tons. Zavik lifted the communication unit and antenna, weighing 2,5 tons. They took off slowly, with a rattle and groan, and disappeared into the darkness above the water.

    Despite some problems with the hydraulics, Nehemiah managed to make a safe landing. Zavik lowered his load directly into the back of the truck, which immediately went to its destination. Electronic experts could not wait to look at the delivered equipment.

    The operation was first reported abroad. In Germany, a caricature was published on which an Israeli helicopter carried away the presidential palace from Cairo. And in the London Sunday Times, an Israeli helicopter carrying a pyramid was depicted. After that, there was no reason not to tell the story to Israeli readers. In the week that has passed since the operation was carried out until permission was given to report it, the installation was disassembled and its components underwent careful study. Particular attention was paid to the elements that provided early detection of low-flying aircraft. The knowledge acquired in this way made it possible to develop effective measures to counter the latest enemy radars. The threat to Israeli air supremacy has been eliminated. After some time, reports appeared in the American press that the captured radar system was handed over to the United States so that American experts could also familiarize themselves with it, just as it had previously done with the captured MiGs and SAM-2 anti-aircraft missile systems.
  4. Yarbay
    +13
    April 15 2013 07: 58
    Discipline is at zero, and this is during combat in war!
    It was necessary to quarter the battalion, and not to shoot!
    1. +7
      April 15 2013 09: 29
      The soldiers scatter, the battalion commander crying sobbing. In the army ... The battalion commander did not cry, he was supposed to shoot himself. And the Jews are masters of daring, non-standard operations.
      1. Gari
        +2
        April 15 2013 11: 20
        Oil and everything connected with it did not cause much concern to us. According to our information, there was a tacit agreement between Egypt and Israel - not to touch such objects. Moreover, nearby, in Shukeyra, the same Egyptian company was producing oil together with the Americans. An interesting war
  5. +7
    April 15 2013 08: 06
    This and the next shot were taken on the eve of the operation - during the landing exercises.


  6. P-15
    +8
    April 15 2013 09: 44
    This story about the abduction of the radar station was told to us by the Deputy on arming our brigade in 1984, but in a different way. The stamp of secrecy was removed from the station in the same year. For some time I even managed to serve on it.
  7. 0
    April 15 2013 09: 47
    I read in some book that from the Israeli side a radio was broadcast in Russian "for the valiant Soviet soldiers."
  8. Perchik
    0
    April 15 2013 10: 10
    I love the Israelis :)
    They’re just smart women, which they have repeatedly proved in practice :)
    1. Yarbay
      +17
      April 15 2013 10: 14
      Well done of course !!
      But I increasingly come to the conclusion that they fought with the mentally retarded)))))
      1. Perchik
        +2
        April 15 2013 10: 34
        There and now, most countries do not know anything about serious army operations ... east.
        1. Yarbay
          +6
          April 15 2013 10: 35
          Quote: Perchik
          There and now, most countries do not know anything about serious military operations ... east

          Yes, the East is not worth it !!
          specific b & l and z m!
          Turks are also east, but there you will not see this!
          1. +2
            April 15 2013 10: 45
            Turks are also east, but there you will not see this!

            And with whom from the 1917 year did the Turks fight? With Cyprus? wink (do not answer, this is a rhetorical question)
            1. +2
              April 15 2013 11: 03
              We fought and are still fighting! hi
            2. Yarbay
              +5
              April 15 2013 11: 05
              Quote: professor
              And with whom since 1917 did the Turks fight?

              The question is posed incorrectly !!
              and fought not at all with Cyprus, but with Greece!
              It is necessary to put so, and who dared to fight with Turkey?
              Can not answer, a rhetorical question)))) hi
              1. +4
                April 15 2013 11: 08
                Quote: Yarbay
                It is necessary to put so, and who dared to fight with Turkey?

                Alibek, Russia fought and hounded on Turkey’s Hare laughing
                1. Yarbay
                  +4
                  April 15 2013 11: 11
                  Quote: Alexander Romanov
                  Alibek, Russia fought and hounded on Turkey’s Hare

                  Hi Sanya))))
                  I did not expect such carelessness)))))
                  Look at the years in the question of a respected professor))
                  1. +3
                    April 15 2013 11: 18
                    Quote: Yarbay
                    I did not expect such carelessness)))))
                    Look at the years in the question of a respected professor)

                    Hi Alibek! Yes, I did not look, why? I’m here Smirnov’s comments in the topic Leontyev’s analytical program and the mood has gone up. At the next hour I can’t take the topics seriously wassat
              2. 0
                April 15 2013 11: 13
                It is necessary to put so, and who dared to fight with Turkey?

                No one with Turkey and no one with Nepal, no one even with Micronesia. But with the Ottoman Empire, many had, as a result, there is no more such on the map. request
                1. +2
                  April 15 2013 11: 21
                  Quote: professor
                  But with the Ottoman Empire, many had to,

                  Professor Shalom hi Yes, many fought and they were all raked! And then you fought with Russia and you were right the Ottoman Empire didn’t, but seeing how events are developing today, I feel that Turkey will soon be left with nothing. By the way, and on whose side will Israel be in a war against Turkey? wink
                  1. 0
                    April 15 2013 11: 28
                    [quote = Alexander Romanov] I feel that soon there will be nothing left of Turkey.

                    When will you start writing fiction novels?

                    [quote = Alexander Romanov] By the way, on whose side will Israel be in the war against Turkey? [/ quote]

                    On the side of Turkey, be sure!
                  2. +4
                    April 15 2013 14: 47
                    Quote: Alexander Romanov
                    By the way, and on which side will Israel be in a war against Turkey?

                    In general, I think on the side of Turkey, Erdogan passing, Turkey forever.
                2. Yarbay
                  +4
                  April 15 2013 11: 21
                  Quote: professor
                  No one with Turkey and no one with Nepal, no one even with Micronesia.

                  Professor again compare xy with a finger!)))))))))))
                  Quote: professor
                  But with the Ottoman Empire, many had, as a result, there is no more such on the map.

                  500 years, the Ottoman Empire fought !!

                  So Turkey is a democratic state and does not have imperial ambitions at the moment and, unlike your state, does not even allow the thoughts of its neighbors to fight with it!
                  and then what is Israel proud of?
                  so that they beat Syria, in which now every rabble captured half the country?)))))))
                  1. +1
                    April 15 2013 11: 27
                    500 years, the Ottoman Empire fought !!

                    And then the Russians came with the British and made it history.

                    Nevertheless, in order to claim the superiority of an army, it is necessary to take into account its combat experience, and the Turkish army simply does not have one. It is not known what would happen if the Israelis decided to abduct the Turkish radar, of course, with subsequent apologies and payment of compensation.

                    The group was led by Nehemiah Tamari - his name was one of the few that are now allowed to publish the names of participants in the operation, although almost forty years have passed.

                    Nehemia successfully achieved their goal of carriages and a generator. The Shamir Branch was responsible for the generator. Nehemiah ordered Shamir to hide near the generator and watch the rest of the squad storm the trailers. As soon as the assault begins, the generator must be turned off. The assault on the trailers began after the paratroopers came close to them and the Egyptian sentry, hearing the noise, asked "Who is there?" Receiving no answer, he fired. A firefight began, hearing which Shamir's squad turned off the generator, the "Israel group" destroyed the tent, and the "Moti group" destroyed the bunker.

                    Having suppressed the resistance of the Egyptians, part of Nehemiah's group began to detach the trailers from the ZIL. It took more time than planned - the main difficulty was the high antenna, without disassembling which it was impossible to receive the helicopters.

                    The dismantling of the radar according to the plan was supposed to end in 01: 45, but it ended in 02: 43 - only then a message was sent to the helicopters about the readiness of the locator for loading. Meanwhile, Shamir’s department mined the generator and successfully blew it up.

                    The "Mochi Group" at this time captured the above-mentioned three prisoners in the bunker. They turned out to be "shift supervisor", "display duty officer" and "security guard". This "guard", after a more detailed interrogation, turned out to be a technical specialist on duty. After a persistent and reasoned request, he agreed to transfer to the Israelis all the technical documentation at his disposal.


                    So Turkey is a democratic state and does not have imperial ambitions at the moment and, unlike your state, does not even allow the thoughts of its neighbors to fight with it!

                    On the calendar is 15, not 1 on April. wink
                    1. +3
                      April 15 2013 11: 37
                      Quote: professor
                      On the calendar 15, not 1 April


                      You are mistaken! No less than yours! Of course, gay marriage is not allowed! We don’t want such laws hi
                    2. Yarbay
                      +5
                      April 15 2013 11: 37
                      Quote: professor
                      And then the Russians came with the British and made it history.

                      Dear Professor!
                      If Russians even come to Israel without England, Israel will forever be a HISTORY)))))))))
                      and they came to the Ottoman Empire more than once!
                      the Turkish army has combat experience!
                      And from what I saw in the discipline and preparedness of the 100 points, the odds will be given to all neighboring countries!


                      Quote: professor
                      On the calendar 15, not 1 April

                      And then)))))))))))))
                      1. 0
                        April 15 2013 11: 43
                        the Turkish army has combat experience!

                        Please share information about the experience of the fighting of the Turkish army in the last 50 years, and on this we will finish clogging the topic that is not related to Turkey. hi
                      2. Yarbay
                        +4
                        April 15 2013 11: 52
                        Quote: professor
                        Please share information about the experience of the fighting of the Turkish army in the last 50 years, and on this we will finish clogging the topic that is not related to Turkey.


                        Yes, google in the internet))))))))))
                        Mlyn again your * Jewish * options))))
                        I ask fellow Jews not to be offended, your people love and respect !!
                        My koment concerns only a respected professor!
                        Israel seriously fought around the same years as Turkey and Greece!
                        The level of opponents is the same!

                        So stop ringing about combat experience!
                        and so the Kurdish rabble of fighters is much better prepared than the rabble of Hamas !!
                      3. +1
                        April 15 2013 11: 57
                        Yes, google in the internet))))))))))

                        Was there a boy? When there is nothing to answer usually send the opponent ... to Google.
                        Do not strain, we know history well and we know how and with whom Turkey "fought" for the last 96 years. laughing
                      4. Yarbay
                        +2
                        April 15 2013 12: 05
                        Quote: professor
                        Do not strain

                        read above)))
                        Do not brake)))
                        with whom Israel fought?))))
                        Approximately with the armies of the same level of training as Greece, with which Turkey fought in the same years)))
                      5. 0
                        April 15 2013 12: 18
                        with whom Israel fought?))))
                        Approximately with the armies of the same level of training as Greece, with which Turkey fought in the same years)))

                        Israel seriously fought around the same years as Turkey and Greece!
                        The level of opponents is the same!
                        So stop ringing about combat experience!

                        I precipitate. Why are you amusing us? Himself not funny? I will not disgrace you laying out the number and equipment of the warring parties in the Arab-Israeli conflicts and Turkish-Greek. hi

                        It is necessary to put so, and who dared to fight with Turkey?

                        Is it with that Turkey that is hiding behind NATO and its nuclear umbrella? wink
                      6. Yarbay
                        +2
                        April 15 2013 12: 36
                        Quote: professor
                        Is it with that Turkey that is hiding behind NATO and its nuclear umbrella?

                        with that Israel which is hiding behind the United States and its nuclear umbrella))))
                        Quote: professor
                        I will not disgrace you laying out the number and equipment of the warring parties in the Arab-Israeli conflicts and Turkish-Greek.

                        So consider the number of respected professor, if these articles show that they fought with the mentally retarded))))
                        Greece, although there were fewer troops, but they were a much more serious enemy!
                      7. berimor
                        +4
                        April 15 2013 17: 43
                        Rrrrr guys, don't get started !!! Although I fought in Egypt and Syria against Israel, I can confidently confirm that the Israeli army, the thinking army, does not like stereotypes, it is very prepared, experienced and not bad, and in some ways it is better equipped than our army. The enemy was worthy, and the actions of their aviation against ours are worthy of praise. Even our general-commander of our air group in Egypt, after a series of unsuccessful and tragic attempts by our pilots to fight their fighters, said: "Yes, we have learned to fly, but to fight - yet NO!"
                      8. Yarbay
                        +2
                        April 15 2013 17: 51
                        Quote: berimor
                        that the Israeli army, the army thinking, doesn’t like templates, very prepared, experienced and not bad, and equipped in some ways better than our army

                        and who argues?))))
                        It’s just that I read here and everywhere about the opponents of Israel, which leads me to the firm conviction that insular people led the Arab armies !!
                      9. +1
                        April 16 2013 00: 52
                        Quote: Yarbay
                        and who is arguing?

                        That's right, it’s not worth arguing, if the Jews had fought and the Turks piled on laughing
                      10. Yarbay
                        -1
                        April 16 2013 08: 56
                        Quote: voronov
                        That's right, do not argue

                        Fuck nah cheap supplement !!
                      11. 0
                        April 16 2013 00: 49
                        Quote: professor
                        we know how and with whom Turkey "fought" for the last 96 years.

                        Especially the Turks distinguished themselves "valiantly" in 1916. in the "war" with its citizens Armenians
                      12. -1
                        April 16 2013 09: 14
                        Especially the Turks distinguished themselves "valiantly" in 1916. in the "war" with its citizens Armenians

                        You are mistaken, Turks slaughtered one and a half million Armenians in the 1915 year.
                      13. +2
                        April 15 2013 12: 39
                        Quote: Yarbay
                        I ask fellow Jews not to be offended, your people love and respect !!

                        Alibek burns wassat wassat wassat
                      14. Yarbay
                        +4
                        April 15 2013 12: 58
                        Quote: Alexander Romanov
                        Alibek burns

                        You read the article Sanya!
                        in which self-respecting country a platoon of secret object guard during the hostilities will drink teas elsewhere))))
                        and then even under the bombing of aviation to advance to the object))))))))
                        this is incomprehensible to the mind)))))))))))
                        Yes, Israel must erect a monument to the Arab armies from blogging descendants)))))
                      15. +1
                        April 15 2013 13: 22
                        Quote: Yarbay
                        You read the article Sanya!

                        Yes, I'm not talking about an article, I'm talking about this
                        Quote: Yarbay
                        I ask fellow Jews not to be offended, your people love and respect !!

                        laughing
                        Quote: Yarbay
                        Yes, Israel must erect a monument to the Arab armies from the blogging descendants)))

                        Here I agree all the more wassat
                      16. Yarbay
                        +1
                        April 15 2013 13: 32
                        Quote: Alexander Romanov

                        Yes, I'm not talking about an article, I'm talking about this

                        But I really love and respect them !!
                        Yes, one Igor will give everyone a head start, I'm not talking about Karisha !!))
                        I know with Karish you respected do not drink))))
                      17. +4
                        April 15 2013 13: 45
                        Quote: Yarbay
                        Yes, one Igor will give everyone a head start, I'm not talking about Karisha !!))
                        I know with Karish you respected do not drink))))

                        Hi Alibek!
                        I rarely go out now. a lot of things, but then just ran into your comment.
                        Generally I do not understand some of the antagonism of Alexander. Igoryanich told me that they sometimes practice through Skype, I wouldn’t mind participating in the same. but somehow it doesn’t match. Maybe with Alexander they understood each other better. drinks
                        How are you ? As children ? Good luck and success to you good drinks hi
                        Regards, Sanya.
                      18. Yarbay
                        +2
                        April 15 2013 15: 35
                        Quote: atalef
                        Hi Alibek!

                        Hi Sanya !!
                        all is well, here we’ll shoot with the professor))))
                        I'm glad to see you!!
                      19. Yarbay
                        +2
                        April 15 2013 16: 40
                        Quote: atalef
                        a lot of things


                        Sanya explain what it means ??
                        What kind of tradition ??
                        As IzRus portal reported, the IDF leadership decided that the chief of the General Staff will continue to lay a flag on the grave of the last soldier who died, regardless of what part of the military cemetery it is located
                      20. +2
                        April 15 2013 16: 51
                        Quote: Yarbay
                        As IzRus portal reported, the IDF leadership decided that the chief of the General Staff will continue to lay a flag on the grave of the last soldier who died, regardless of what part of the military cemetery it is located

                        because The ceremony is held at the Central Military Cemetery (yesterday), soldiers of different faiths are buried in various parts of this cemetery. The beginning The General Staff lays a flag on the grave of the last soldier who died last year. But the problem was that the last soldier who died this year was not a Jew (Russian) and he was buried in another part of the cemetery and the head of the General Staff laid a flag on the grave of the penultimate (Jew) - it was convenient from the point of view of providence ceremonies.
                        A terrible scandal flared up, leading to the fact that
                        IDF Chief of Staff Lt. Gen. Beni Ganz visited Private Eugene Tolochko’s family the day before and apologized for not putting a flag on his grave, despite the fact that Eugene was the last IDF soldier to date.

                        According to the chief of staff, he did not know that Eugene was the last dead soldier. He expressed his regret over the trauma caused to the grieving family, and also handed them the flag, which was supposed to be put on the grave of Eugene
                        .
                      21. Yarbay
                        +1
                        April 15 2013 17: 00
                        Quote: atalef
                        . But the problem was that the last soldier who died this year was not a Jew (Russian) and he was buried in another part of the cemetery and the chief of the General Staff laid a flag on the grave of the penultimate (Jew) - it was convenient from the point of view of providence ceremonies.

                        according to this tradition, only the chief of the General Staff should go to the grave of a Jew ??
                        Were there any precedents?
                      22. +3
                        April 15 2013 17: 09
                        Quote: Yarbay
                        according to this tradition, only the chief of the General Staff should go to the grave of a Jew ??
                        Were there any precedents?

                        This was an unfortunate misunderstanding. The first time that the last victim was not a Jew.
                        The scandal that arose and His apologies to the family only confirm this. Of course, the decision about the venue of the ceremony was not made by him. he found himself in a ridiculous situation. This happened the first time and I am sure the last time.
                      23. Yarbay
                        +1
                        April 15 2013 17: 32
                        Quote: atalef
                        This was an unfortunate misunderstanding. The first time that the last victim was not a Jew.

                        Everything is clear Sanya!
                        Thank you!
                        and so the general command of the parts involved in mourning events?
                      24. +2
                        April 15 2013 17: 57
                        Quote: Yarbay
                        and so the general command of the parts involved in mourning events?

                        Today is the day of remembrance of the fallen soldiers in the wars of Israel
                        On the Day of Remembrance of the Fallen in the Wars of Israel, we are citizens of the country, we honor the memory of those who died in all the wars of Israel, thanks to which the state of Israel exists. Memorial Day is celebrated annually on the 4 of the Jewish month of Iyar, or on the eve of this date, but always the day before Independence Day. And this fact underlines the connection between the dedication of the fallen soldiers and the inviolability of the state of Israel.

                        In the 1963 year, the Knesset legally declared this day the Day of Remembrance of the Fallen Soldiers of the Israel Defense Forces and all those who fought and died for the creation of an independent Jewish state. In the 1980 year, the Knesset amended this law by renaming it and changing its content. After the amendment, this law received its current name - the Law on the Day of Remembrance of the Fallen in the Wars of Israel.

                        To date, 23085 troops. Last night and today in 11.00 siren lasts 1 min. and all of Israel freezes in a minute of silence, transport stops, people on the streets in apartments, on timid mnsts stand in a minute of silence.
                        At 11.00, mourning ceremonies begin at military cemeteries, and even the grave does not remain unvisited and groomed. The beginning the General Staff holds a ceremony at the central military cemetery on Mount Herzel in Jerusalem, early military districts in the cemeteries of the North. South and Center of the country.
                        Day of Mourning. there are no entertaining events on TV; a memory day is held in schools.
                        At the end of the day of remembrance (in the evening), Independence Day, holiday, fireworks, festivities immediately begin. Performances by artists in every city. People are walking. eats (like a national sport 0, splashes foam and water and pounds each other with inflatable hammers. Children are happy. Well, tomorrow all of Israel will tear to nature and barbecue. (visiting one of the military bases in the morning) which will be open tomorrow morning an exhibition of weapons, including tanks, airplanes, the Navy, the Police, Firefighters, etc. An air force parade will be held at 12.00.
                        Well, in general, something like this. After 3 hours we leave to friends. Barbecue, sauna, countless meat and wine. In general, we’ll have fun at night. And tomorrow morning we’ll go to the police base (the most colorful there. You can hold all the weapons. Shoot the pinball, children are delighted with dogs and horses, watch how special forces storm buses, buildings, remove fingerprints and make up Photobot ... in general, everything is very well organized.
                        That something like this. drinks
                      25. Yarbay
                        0
                        April 15 2013 18: 04
                        Quote: atalef
                        Well, in general, something like this. After 3 hours we go to friends. Barbecue, sauna, countless meat and wine.


                        I wish you a good rest, a peaceful sky and much luck))) drinks
                      26. +3
                        April 15 2013 20: 00
                        Damn, I'm working
                      27. +2
                        April 16 2013 12: 20
                        Quote: igor67
                        Damn, I'm working
                        The only thing I can console you with is one more (+) good .Besides, you don’t have a headache today, not like some sauna lovers. wassat
                      28. -1
                        April 15 2013 16: 17
                        Yes, Israel must erect a monument to the Arab armies from blogging descendants)))))

                        It is strange why then, having put tearfully in its rods, Turkey urged Brussels to urgently send military assistance from Syria (the Tuks even mistook the German soldiers for the American people tried to fill their faces, an international scandal happened)?
                        I am also interested in why there are foreign military bases on the territory of Turkey? Could it be from Armenia? Who is so afraid of Turkey? wink
                      29. Yarbay
                        +2
                        April 15 2013 16: 32
                        Quote: professor
                        I am also interested in why there are foreign military bases on the territory of Turkey?

                        Do not you know))))))))) ??
                        but why are the same base in Israel?))))))))
                        Just do not tell me that they are not))))
                        and the Amer’s weapons depot, and if not the United States, Israel won’t last an hour, the sheikhs will ruin the economy!
                        Quote: professor
                        It is strange why then Turkey, having put tearfully in its shatny, begged Brussels to urgently send military aid from Syria

                        What are you saying??)))))

                        At one time, Turkey gave Assad to Papa 24 hours to get rid of Ocalan and Pope Assad put in his pants)))
                      30. -1
                        April 15 2013 20: 34
                        but why are the same base in Israel?))))))))
                        Just do not tell me that they are not))))

                        Well, why lie so? On the territory of Israel there was not and there is not a single foreign soldier, but Turkey and the Americans and Germans protect. Are Assad afraid?

                        At one time, Turkey gave Assad to Papa 24 hours to get rid of Ocalan and Pope Assad put in his pants)))

                        And now the Germans were invited to protect from Assad. Fact however. Show link? wink
                      31. 0
                        April 15 2013 18: 24
                        Over the past ten years, 124 thousand foreigners received Turkish citizenship, including 67 thousand Israeli citizens, 44 thousand Bulgarian citizens, 3 700 Syrian citizens and others.
                      32. 0
                        April 16 2013 00: 54
                        Quote: Alexander Romanov
                        I ask fellow Jews not to be offended, your people love and respect !!

                        Because there is something !!! drinks
                      33. +4
                        April 15 2013 19: 01
                        Quote: professor
                        On the calendar is 15, not 1 on April.

                        Quote: Yarbay
                        And then)))))))))))))

                        Something the professor’s day dragged on wassat
                      34. -1
                        April 16 2013 00: 45
                        Quote: Yarbay
                        Quote: professor
                        And then the Russians came with the British and made it history.

                        Dear Professor!
                        If Russians even come to Israel without England, Israel will forever be a HISTORY)))))))))
                        and they came to the Ottoman Empire more than once!
                        the Turkish army has combat experience!
                        And from what I saw in the discipline and preparedness of the 100 points, the odds will be given to all neighboring countries!


                        Quote: professor
                        On the calendar 15, not 1 April

                        And then)))))))))))))

                        Do Russia also belong to neighboring countries with Turkey?
                  2. 0
                    April 15 2013 11: 54
                     again compare xy with a finger!))

                    Compare with Nepalese or Nepal wassat
          2. OTAKE
            +3
            April 15 2013 11: 04
            Quote: Yarbay
            Quote: Perchik
            There and now, most countries do not know anything about serious military operations ... east

            Yes, the East is not worth it !!
            specific b & l and z m!
            Turks are also east, but there you will not see this!

            The Jordanians are also not bad, anyway) and the rest are not in dispute;
            1. Yarbay
              +1
              April 15 2013 11: 14
              Quote: OTAKE
              Jordanians are also pretty good)


              they say so, but there the special forces are apparently well prepared!
              I don’t know what is going on in the army!
              Quote: OTAKE
              And the rest is no doubt, oprezoly, hellish.)

              You picked the best word)))))
        2. berimor
          +1
          April 15 2013 17: 29
          You guys are wasting it. In 1973, I was a military adviser in Syria. So the initial phase of the war, the so-called "Doomsday" was planned and carried out brilliantly (though not without our generous help). And if it were not for the betrayal of Anwar Sadat, the then President of Egypt, it is not known how all this would have ended for Israel.
          1. +1
            April 15 2013 18: 20
            Quote: berimor
            You guys are wasting it. In 1973, I was a military adviser in Syria. So the initial phase of the war, the so-called "Doomsday" was planned and carried out brilliantly (though not without our generous help). And if it were not for the betrayal of Anwar Sadat, the then President of Egypt, it is not known how all this would have ended for Israel.

            Just do not. Just the Syrians then, unlike the Egyptians, did not really show anything. Having 5 divisions against two brigades could not even enter the 1967 line of the year. While the Egyptian actions, especially when crossing Suez, and then when organizing anti-tank ambushes, were perfectly organized.
            1. berimor
              0
              April 16 2013 11: 57
              This is what I meant.
        3. 0
          April 15 2013 18: 14
          Quote: Perchik
          There and now, most countries do not know anything about serious army operations ... east.

          You are not right. I had to deal only with Hamas and Hiz-loy, but believe me, this is a very serious opponent. In general, the Egyptians in 1973, when crossing Suez, and the Syrians in 1982 near Sultan Yakub proved to be excellent.
      2. 0
        April 15 2013 16: 40
        I agree. My uncle then taught the Egyptians to fly as a military expert. He said that the MiGs were constantly being bullied.
        1. Yarbay
          +2
          April 15 2013 16: 42
          Quote: unclevad
          He said that they "goat" the MiG and constantly

          What does this mean ??))
      3. berimor
        +3
        April 15 2013 17: 19
        To our great regret, our army today is getting closer and closer (taftology) in terms of training to that of the Egyptian army. Trust me. In 1970 -1971 I fought in our 18th special-purpose anti-aircraft missile division (operation "CAUCASUS"). We were amazed at that time by the irresponsibility, by the nosiness and carelessness of the officers, not to mention the ordinary soldiers of the Egyptian army. On my mind is trade, women, Allah, money, bakshishsh (bribe). How does our today's army differ from them? Nothing. Those had at least some combat experience.
    2. 0
      April 16 2013 20: 06
      Quote: Perchik
      I love the Israelis :)
      They’re just smart women, which they have repeatedly proved in practice :)
      - well, so do they reciprocate wassat Go and adore each other, because you are suited to each other, such are all tolerance laughing You will post the photo laughing
      I don’t understand, why did you decide to share your intimate mania with us? We are not interested, nevertheless you are sharing ... Some form of emotional eskibitsitsonizma?
  9. 0
    April 15 2013 10: 55
    Well done Jews
    question to the professor
    and what the Russians stubbornly have Jews and Americans?
    1. +3
      April 15 2013 11: 05
      The Americans have a lot of things (I am silent about the atomic bomb), but Israel has tanks from the battle of Sultan Jacob. There, Tsahal was ambushed and retreated, leaving a couple of tanks that the Syrians picked up and Soviet advisers transported to Moscow (for which they received the title of Hero, no hero was received for the stolen Egyptian radar). Dynamic protection was installed on the tanks (it was interesting to Soviet designers), but most importantly, the ammunition was not used up on the tanks. This allowed to fire at the T-72 and make a number of changes that improve their protection.
  10. Piterkras
    +2
    April 15 2013 11: 09
    Let the Jews say thanks to the United States for their intelligence assistance. data and financial assistance. To prevent the influence of the USSR on BV, the United States helped Jews in every possible way. And now they help with free billions of dollars in loans.
    1. +2
      April 15 2013 12: 41
      Quote: piterkras
      Let the Jews say thanks to the United States for their intelligence assistance. data and financial assistance. To prevent the influence of the USSR on BV, the United States helped Jews in every possible way.

      NU then we will be adequate and remember the help of the USSR to Egypt, Syria, Yemen and Iraq against Israel. Oh, how much the USSR has invested in this, where is America. No Israel soldier fought for Israel. In the same Egypt and Syria, not only weapons were delivered, but also thousands of military specialists. Do you know about the result? Or remind laughing

      Quote: piterkras
      And now they help with free billions of dollars in loans.

      Well, here, both the USSR and Russia are simply out of competition, only over the past 3 years, Russia has forgiven 116 billion loan bills. Including Syria, Libya, Iraq, Vietnam. laughing
      The USSR lost outright in the Middle East, both by the results of wars and by the allies, whom it was stupidly lost. Syria was left alone, and even then it’s not clear how the map will fall. America has invested (and is investing money), so at least there is a return, USSR / Russia, as always, BUTTERS ON THE WIND laughing
      1. Piterkras
        0
        April 15 2013 22: 18
        Well, Russia cannot print the endless candy wrappers of the US Federal Reserve, as the United States does. Russia lives off of its earnings, while America lives on debt that it will never repay. Only World War III can make the US pay the bills.
      2. berimor
        -1
        April 16 2013 12: 08
        As for the fact that the USSR lost the military component in the 1970 war, then there was a clean distortion. Soviet air defense missile systems 18 OZRD pushed Israeli aviation pills. At that time, I fought in the squadron division. Mirages and Phantoms burned very well! It is a pity that a truce was quickly concluded, and then the betrayal of Sadat and the withdrawal of our division.
    2. Yarbay
      +3
      April 15 2013 13: 12
      Quote: piterkras
      Let the Jews say thanks to the United States for their intelligence assistance. data and financial assistance

      Thank you to the Arab armies and, of course, the leadership of the Israeli army, who apparently knew who they were fighting with !!
  11. a boat
    0
    April 15 2013 12: 50
    and utilization of advanced developments over the hill!
    1. +2
      April 15 2013 14: 49
      Quote: gych
      and utilization of advanced developments over the hill!

      In general, what about the radar, what about the rest - intelligence is in the first place
      The servers of the Israel Military Intelligence Service (AMAN) contain over one billion gigabytes of information. This is the largest hosting site in Israel, it stores about the same amount of data as such world-wide information giants as Google or Facebook. For comparison, this number is equal to the total hard drive capacity of approximately 2 billion home computers.

      This and other interesting information was published on the country's Independence Day, as well as on its own 60 anniversary, by the Military Intelligence Service. These data are cited by Inbal Orpaz in the festive issue of TheMarker economic newspaper.

      Among other interesting figures - the amount of daily information used by AMAN is 100 terabytes. Intelligence constantly uses over 30 of thousands of IP addresses, making AMAN the largest local network in Israel.

      The competition of draftees in the intelligence service is 5: 1, in the cyber subdivision AMAN - 81: 1. The average age of satellite reconnaissance system operators is 20 years, for comparison, in other western intelligence it is 35 years.

      Immigrants from the country's intelligence established more than 150 large and medium-sized companies in the field of high technology
  12. +1
    April 15 2013 18: 55
    Somehow, they remained unnoticed .... "heroic" actions of our military specialists in this story
    but no there is a mention ...
    Honestly, even today, thirty years later, it is difficult for me to say with absolute certainty what then was the best for us: to conduct or not to conduct this training. If such a doctrine really took place, we probably would have thwarted the operation to the enemy. Another question: “What consequences would have expected us?” Probably the next day, the Israelis would have mixed the battalion with sand with their air strikes.
    1. Yarbay
      +2
      April 16 2013 07: 08
      Quote: rumpeljschtizhen
      Surely the next day, the Israelis would have mixed the battalion with sand with their air strikes.


      Mdaaa)))
      Very much!
      1. 0
        April 16 2013 19: 33
        In Russian they sykanuli .... and yet their comrades were not afraid of controlling anti-aircraft systems and aircraft ....
  13. -1
    April 16 2013 01: 01
    The morale of the Arabs fell below the plinth in the 8 century, after the Arab caliphates

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