He saved his conscience from reproach with a bottle of Cahors

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He saved his conscience from reproach with a bottle of Cahors

You can now enter the Baltiysk naval base with just a passport. This westernmost coast of the country has long been a secret facility since Prussian times, when it was called Pillau.

Our battalions dug into the remains of the famous Prussian citadel right up until May 1945, killing many Red Army soldiers. While the Nazi SS bigwigs were loading onto ships to sail away to the protection of American shores.



And even earlier Peter the Great visited here. He studied bombardier's craft in old Prussia and ordered the construction of the Peter and Paul Fortress on the Neva in the image and likeness of Pillau, one of the best defensive structures of that time. It was supposed to defend the city named after him.

And quite unexpectedly, at the naval base, which had previously been tightly closed to outsiders, I saw a memorial plaque to Joseph Brodsky. It announced that in 1963, the future Nobel laureate visited the Golden Anchor Hotel. The marble plaque also depicts the cheerful image of such a merry fellow.


Although Brodsky was not like that. Quite the opposite. A completely unconventional board. Without any reverence for the fifth Russian Nobel laureate in literature. However, how else should a 23-year-old poet look, who is envied, admired, who was noted and noticed by Anna Andreyevna Akhmatova herself, but whose poems, alas, have not yet been fed.

The "redhead", as Akhmatova called him, has no permanent income. So his friends organized a part-time job - from the children's magazine "Koster" to the closed Baltiysk to write about the conflict history young swimmers. Which was done in good faith.

They even made it up with the author's photos. There were also business trips from the magazine. But "The Bonfire" did not warm the budding Brodsky. A year later, the poet appeared in court on charges of so-called parasitism. That is, evasion of socially useful work.

In those years, this was punishable by correctional labor. Those who were unemployed for more than four months in a row fell under the article. Brodsky did not qualify as an obvious anti-Soviet. He was only BORZ. That is, a person "without a specific occupation."

His extra work was rare and unconvincing to the court. Newspaper feuilletons became more and more aggressive and accusatory: "A near-literary drone" and that was it, so the poet was sent to five years of correctional labor in the Arkhangelsk region, in the village of Norinskaya.

The poetic report, if one can call it that, about the trip to Baltiysk was written only a year later. In exile. The poem "Excerpt" was literally filled with melancholy and self-irony.

In the Hanseatic hotel "Anchor",
where flies land on sugar,
where sideways in a deep channel
destroyers sail past the windows,

I was sitting in the company of a circle,
staring at the masts and guns
and my conscience from reproach
saving with a bottle of Cahors.



The Königsberg cycle of poems appeared in exile, noted by both admirers and critics. Immanuel Kant himself would certainly have liked them.

It is clear that the plaque on the hotel in Baltiysk did not appear by itself, but on the poet's 65th birthday - May 24, 2005. One of the initiators was the then editor of the newspaper "Guardian of the Baltic" Alexander Koretsky. A newspaperman and a fan of the poet - this is a binary charge, I tell you.

A sponsor was found, as well as many active admirers of the poet, who helped to dig up and unravel the story of 40 years ago, find living witnesses of those events, and involve those who had to make decisions and implement the project in this cycle.

The music was blaring at the dances,
the soldiers boarded the transport,
bending the cloth hips.
The lighthouse winked cheerfully at them.

And often to the point of pain in the back of the head
about the similarity between him and the bottle
I thought I was deprived of the regime
familiarization with its contents.


And the author of the memorial plaque was a native of Lugansk, a Baltic sailor, Kaliningrad sculptor Fyodor Moroz. He also turned out to be a long-time admirer of the poet. He is known as the author of the pompous bronze Duke - the founder of the University of Königsberg, Albrecht.

All tourists in Kaliningrad are always taken to him. He also sculpted the sprat monument, which has already become famous. And not only because it is also a landmark – a masterpiece, no one will argue. Moroz's sense of humor did not change with Brodsky either…


In the poet's homeland, Leningrad, now St. Petersburg, there are about 10 memorial signs erected to him. They can also be found in other countries where Joseph Brodsky visited. But such a person, without the bronze of merits, him - young, enjoying life, can only be seen here, in Baltiysk.

Having entered East Prussia,
your image, with lowered eyelids,
from our Baltic swamps
I smuggled it in like opium...


It was only in 1972 that the author gave these lines a title – “Excerpt”, put an ellipsis at the end and dated it from memory: “Pillau, 1963”.

And in the evening, with a sad expression,
I went down to the berth wall
in the company of nimble thoughts,
and you performed on the waves...


Text prepared by Vladimir Sluzhakov
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  1. +2
    31 May 2025 03: 53
    No matter what his relationship with the authorities and the history of Russia was, he created poems easily... they flew out like bees from a disturbed hive. His style and unexpected meanings are always recognizable and unique. That is what makes him brilliant.
    1. +22
      31 May 2025 05: 36
      Quote: Mikhail Drabkin
      That's why he's a genius.

      Brodsky's genius is highly questionable in comparison with the genius of Russian poets. The founder of rap. His poems are hard to digest. The rhymes are complex and, unlike Mayakovsky's, do not give anyone the right to recognize his poems as easy to create. So you can recognize drunken delirium as an entertaining narrative. Here's what they write about him:
      On June 4, 1972, Joseph Brodsky left Russia forever. In his suitcase he packed a typewriter, two bottles of vodka for W. H. Auden, and a collection of John Donne's poems. Deprived of his Soviet citizenship, he flew from Leningrad to Vienna on an "Israeli visa," as required by the rules of Jewish emigration. Three years later, he would write about it:
      Blowing into a hollow pipe, like your fakir,
      I walked through the line of janissaries in green,
      feeling the cold of their evil axes with my eggs,
      as when entering the water. And so, with salty
      the taste of this water in my mouth,
      I crossed the line...

      Sorry, but I am one of those people who agree with the opinion:
      "True art should be understandable to everyone, including the most simple and illiterate people"

      Let him remain widely known in a narrow circle of his connoisseurs and admirers.
      1. +6
        31 May 2025 06: 20
        If there were no non-genius poets, then where would the genius ones come from? smile It is your right to judge them, but their right to write as they want (or succeed). Read Velimir Khlebnikov and Brodsky will seem quite digestible to you. laughing
        1. +1
          31 May 2025 15: 56
          I am an artist, I see it this way - a good point of view. I see the underground, I live in it. If someone tells the truth, it is worth waiting for thirty years.
      2. +6
        31 May 2025 08: 09
        Quote: ROSS 42
        Sorry, but I am one of those people who agree with the opinion:
        "True art should be understandable to everyone, including the most simple and illiterate people"


        yeah:
        I was at the ballet: men were groping girls,
        The girls are all, as if hand-picked, wearing white slippers.
        Here I am writing, and tears are choking and dripping -
        Don't let yourself be grabbed, my darling.
        !
        (C)


        and available to everyone::



        Oh, Vanya, I'll die from the acrobatics!
        Look how he spins, the impudent fellow!
        Our shop manager is comrade Zadikov
        He was jumping around like that at the club recently!
        (C)
        Yes
        1. +3
          31 May 2025 09: 55
          I remembered that Klim Chugunkin is eternal

          Song of the envious V.S. Vysotsky 1965

          My neighbor has traveled all over the Union -
          He is looking for something, but what it is he cannot see.
          I don’t bother with other people's affairs
          But it really hurts and offends me.

          He has plush and silk on his windows,
          Baba roaming around in his bathrobe.
          I would have found uranium in Moscow with a pickaxe
          With such an increased salary!

          And it seems to me that people are lying -
          He is not looking for anything on purpose.
          And for what? After all, the money is coming in —
          Oh, what big bucks!

          And yesterday their son was in the kitchen
          He fell head first at our door -
          And he broke my decanter on purpose,
          I owe my mother triple the bill.

          So, he gets a ruble, and I get a five-kopeck coin?!
          Let him pay me a penalty now!
          I don’t mean it out of envy, I just mean it,
          For the sake of justice - and nothing more.

          …Well, never mind, I’ll make them feel comfortable –
          He will swiftly exchange the apartment.
          They have money - they don’t peck chickens,
          And we have - not enough for vodka!
      3. +4
        31 May 2025 08: 13
        Brodsky's genius is highly questionable in comparison with the genius of Russian poets.
        ... genius is never compared or comparable to anything else, because there is no such thing. I repeat, Brodsky's style and unexpected meanings are always recognizable and unique. That is what makes him a genius - uniqueness with recognizability... there is no other like him... "there is no wind behind me...".
        1. +8
          31 May 2025 14: 39
          I repeat, Brodsky’s style and unexpected meanings are always recognizable and unique.

          His poems are of course unique in their structure, but Russia is a country of poets and not everyone can squeeze into the front row, especially under the communists. However, the pushing of Joseph by the Jewish community also took place, in my opinion. I am not against the talented people - the Jews. However, when there are too many of them in some sphere of activity, then it is already more difficult for other potential geniuses who are not Jews to break through. Such is the way things are.
      4. +4
        31 May 2025 09: 21
        Quote: ROSS 42
        Sorry, but I am one of those people who agree with the opinion:
        "True art should be understandable to everyone, including the most simple and illiterate people"

        And how can a simple and illiterate person understand the full "depth of our depths" if he does not understand the possible references and allusions in a work of art?
        - Why, actually, don't you like the theatre? Sharikov looked into the empty glass as if through binoculars, thought and stuck out his lips: - Yes, fooling around... They talk, they talk... There's only one counterrevolution.
      5. +2
        31 May 2025 10: 47
        Quote: ROSS 42
        I am one of those people who agree with the opinion:
        "True art should be understandable to everyone, including the most simple and illiterate people"

        Everything is correct. They came up with all sorts of things, it makes your head spin.
        "Come here, bourgeois, I'll gouge out your eye.
        I’ll stick out the eye, the other will remain,
        So that you know, shit, who to bow to"
        Remember where this is from and who sang it? This is mass culture, understandable to everyone. "Kiss me everywhere, I'm already eighteen." "And my husband went for beer" - these are also "masterpieces" understandable to everyone. And all sorts of Brodskys, Bachs, Schnittkes, Matisses - into the firebox. And at the same time Einsteins, Landaus, Maxwells, who are completely incomprehensible to the people. They act smart, not like, say, Lysenko. So that they don't think too much of themselves.
        I attended a master class where the great Rostropovich said: "A true artist should not stoop to the level of the crowd. But he is obliged to raise it." Rostropovich was an idealist. He thought that Sharikov could be raised to his level. But what if Sharikov does not want to rise, if "The Rustling Reeds" and "Yablochko" are unsurpassable heights for him? And he, in his ignorant pride, is sure that he has the right to judge something he does not understand a word about?
        1. +3
          31 May 2025 15: 09
          But he is obliged to raise her." Rostropovich was an idealist. He thought that Sharikov could be raised to his level.

          I applaud while standing!
          good drinks hi )))
        2. +1
          31 May 2025 16: 41
          where the great Rostropovich said

          Rostropovich was an idealist.

          2 times...
          I'd like to think this is a typo.
      6. +3
        1 June 2025 19: 13
        Let's leave Brodsky's literary quirks to him, and Joseph, who served time for parasitism, would now be quite capable of being self-employed, another thing is that he did not pay taxes to the state - the state, on principle, did not take taxes from such citizens, and if this is Brodsky's only fault, then it would be incorrect to constantly call him a Russian Nobel Prize laureate emigrant.
        1. +1
          1 June 2025 22: 13
          Maybe I could have pulled it off, but I wouldn’t have published it anyway, they didn’t give it to me in those days, and nowadays I wouldn’t have found the money for the print run, I’m a penniless person.
      7. 0
        22 November 2025 04: 14
        Quote: ROSS 42
        His poems are difficult to digest. The rhymes are complex and, unlike Mayakovsky's, don't allow anyone to consider his poems easy to compose.

        I don't like them. But Brodsky has many admirers and admirers among the intelligentsia. If the Ukrainian woman commented on the events of 2014 with her topical poem, then Russia's response was precisely Brodsky's. Brodsky brought something new to Russian poetry, both in form and content, and with him, poetry began to play with new themes, colors, and nuances. This is understood by both Brodsky's fans and his critics. He makes everyone who reads him think and experience something new.
    2. +8
      31 May 2025 08: 35
      Probably, you, standing in front of a metal toilet at a contemporary art exhibition, will talk about the depth and meaning of this installation. Any poem, any mediocrity is unique, unless of course he is a plagiarist. Well, style and meaning are all nonsense, for beautiful words. There are thousands of such versifiers, not all are promoted. It's like with paintings, some are promoted, and some are not, but they draw (write) in practically the same way.
      1. +3
        31 May 2025 11: 53
        Well, style and meaning are all nonsense, for beautiful words.
        Viktor Sergeev, Do you think that meaning is nonsense? And style too? Charming, charming. You should first learn to place punctuation marks properly, and then talk about Russian literature. Everyone has mountains of self-conceit, some of them know nothing except "The Turnip" (and even that she hasn't read, but heard from her grandmother), but they have so much arrogance, as if they were at least Belinsky.
  2. +16
    31 May 2025 05: 23
    Mina is sad, Cahors wine, mug, contraband...Whoever has pain hurts about that.
    This applies to Brodsky...his poems don't touch my soul at all.
    Well, Yesenin or Nekrasov, yeah...they have soulful poems.
    1. -1
      1 June 2025 19: 17
      I agree with you - Yesenin's poems are beautiful, and apparently the NKVD killed Yesenin for them.
      1. 0
        22 November 2025 04: 17
        Quote: SEVERIN
        Apparently, the NKVD killed Yesenin.

        During Brodsky's reign, Khrushchev severely curtailed the NKVD's rights. After Sudoplatov's imprisonment, writers were exiled instead of murdered.
  3. +9
    31 May 2025 06: 15
    Brodsky differed from the others who left in that he never defiled his homeland, which he abandoned, unlike Solzhenitsyn. He always considered himself a Russian poet and did not dwell on his Jewish origins. Brodsky never visited Israel and ordered himself to be buried in Venice, as it reminded him of his native Leningrad.
    1. +15
      31 May 2025 06: 28
      Yes, what is this?
      "The mournful singing of the Slav
      evening in Asia. Freezing, damp
      human pork
      lies on the floor of the caravanserai.
      The dung is smoldering, the legs are numb;
      it smells like rags and a forgotten bathhouse.
      Dreams are as alike as coats.
      More bullets than memories,
      and there is a bitter taste in the mouth from many "hurrays".
      Glory to those who, without raising their eyes,
      went to an abortion clinic in the sixties,
      saving the fatherland from shame!"
      No better than the other "Solzhenitsyns". And he received the Nobel Prize more for political reasons.
      1. -6
        31 May 2025 07: 41
        No better than the rest of the "Solzhenitsyns"

        Only you, Alexey, forgot to mention that this is an excerpt from a poem written in 1980 -- "Poems about the winter campaign of 1980." Dedicated to the winter campaign as part of the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan... The war, which the USSR did not need from any side, took 15 thousand young and healthy Soviet men and became one of the stages on the path leading to the death of the Soviet Union. The image is the perception of our locals. Non-protesting. Uncomplaining.
        1. +11
          31 May 2025 08: 38
          So invasion and condemnation...
          And our guys are human pork
          1. 0
            31 May 2025 15: 15
            .our guys are human pork

            Yes, in the view of our government! That's what the poet writes about. Read what they write from the front, from the hospitals, and how the wounded are driven back to the front, to certain death... Yes, for the government we are all pork!
            1. +5
              31 May 2025 16: 17
              Yes, in the view of our government! That's what the poet writes about. Read what they write from the front, from the hospitals, and how the wounded are driven back to the front, to certain death... Yes, for the government we are all pork!
              Excuse me, what period are you writing about - the Soviet one or the current one?
              1. -5
                1 June 2025 00: 40
                So, has something changed? And for the better?
          2. -2
            17 October 2025 11: 44
            Quote: Alex 1970
            So invasion and condemnation...
            And our guys are human pork

            Hmm, if the army is shoved into places where it's not needed, where the head of state is their own protégé, when both the military and politicians are against the invasion - only for intelligence, when they pay 22 rubles in war - can this be called anything else?
        2. +6
          31 May 2025 11: 12
          Lyudmila Yakovlevna, do you seriously think that sending troops across the river was a mistake? If war is inevitable (and it was inevitable then), then it is better to wage it on foreign territory, not on your own. In the end, the best option was found - Najibullah, who kept all the Basmachi in caves, using our help. And he held out for three years after our troops left, until EBN cut off his supplies. After that, the war began inside the USSR (and in your Abkhazia too). It is surprising that you do not know these elementary things, being a captive of philistine opinions.
          1. +2
            31 May 2025 13: 32
            Do you seriously think that sending troops across the river was a mistake?

            What else can we call it? The Soviet leadership allowed itself to be drawn into a ten-year slaughter, and who ended up being the beneficiary of this conflict, please tell me? In 1980, a childhood friend of mine arrived from there in zinc, and what happened? An international debt, you say? Only Aunt Lyuda instantly turned from a blooming woman into an old woman, it would be good to explain to her why her Zhenya died. And as for today's topic, I dare say: I will neither condemn nor extol the poet's work, he simply was and simply wrote, which is already a fact.
            It is surprising that you do not know these elementary things, being captivated by the opinions of ordinary people.

            The country was already going to pieces, regardless of whether we left or stayed in this country.
            1. +4
              31 May 2025 14: 09
              Phil, an army is not needed for parades and biathlons, but for war. The war was indeed inevitable, it's a pity that it took a long time to find a leader loyal to us (Najibullah). As for the losses - of course, I grieve along with your friends, but this is a lesser evil than the events that unfolded later. My relatives fled from Namangan in time, if these Basmachi had still been terrorized by Najibullah, they would not have climbed into the USSR. It's a pity that on the basis of one zinc from across the river you do not notice their number after the surrender of Najibullah by Yeltsin. Do not fall into the philistine mentality. A little bloodshed prevents a lot. And I don't give a damn about Brodsky who took a shit.
              1. 0
                31 May 2025 14: 23
                the army is not needed for parades and biathlons, but for war

                For war, but not at all for the adventurous actions of the leadership! Was the Great War not enough for us? Yes, a socialist bloc was created, but what did it lead to? Is today's Syria not an example? Well, haven't we had enough of war yet? We need to take care of our own, our own country. And not just take care of it, but make it such that our neighbors would be furiously jealous and tear their hair out that they left our area of ​​responsibility. This is the real super task for the leadership!!!
                And I don't give a damn about the shit-faced Brodsky.

                Well, actually, I’m not his fan, I just think that he had, has and will have his own reader. That’s all.
                1. +6
                  31 May 2025 14: 49
                  Wasn't the Great War enough for us?
                  Do you seriously think that it was possible to live forever on that Victory? You are mistaken. Over 20 years, the composition of the army changes, a completely different generation comes to the lower command positions. And that's not even talking about technical renewal. I'll say it more cynically - if the army does not fight, it degrades. Somehow I did not expect such a blatant philistine pacifism from you. What is forgivable for Lyudmila Yakovlevna is not forgivable for you.
                  and make it so that the neighbors would be furiously jealous and tear their hair out
                  And this is what Stalin made our country like. Before WWII, the same limitrophes (Baltic dying out) staged demonstrations to be accepted into the USSR.
                  1. +1
                    31 May 2025 14: 57
                    Do you seriously think that it was possible to live forever on that Victory? You are wrong.

                    I am saying that the USSR and Russia need a period of time without WAR! Is it really not clear? Peaceful time for their economy.
                    Somehow I didn't expect such blatant philistine pacifism from you. What is forgivable for Lyudmila Yakovlevna is not forgivable for you.

                    What's wrong with pacifism? What's wrong with the world? What's wrong with no one dying for someone else's or someone else's interests? Pacifist? Yes, I'm a pacifist and I think that we can only fight when our homeland is attacked. That's all.
                    1. +3
                      31 May 2025 16: 15
                      What's wrong with pacifism?
                      Pacifism is always at someone else's expense. You need an army to either kill or threaten to kill. And sending troops across the river is a war on someone else's territory. You think that you should have waited until the war came to you (not succumbed to provocations), then you will fight. Too bad, I didn't expect it. That's all.
                2. 0
                  31 May 2025 15: 20
                  Have you had enough of fighting? We need to take care of our own country. And not just take care of it, but make it such that our neighbors would be furiously jealous and tear their hair out because they left our area of ​​responsibility. This is the real super task for the leadership!!!


                  Sergey Vladimirovich, bravo!!!
                  love love love !!!
            2. +4
              1 June 2025 02: 48
              Quote: ArchiPhil
              The country was already going to pieces, regardless of whether we left or stayed in this country.

              In 1998, the country was not going to pieces, but was heading for disaster. However, it was enough to give Maslyukov and Primakov six months' power instead of pro-Western liberals, and the country began to move away from the inevitable disaster. Najibullah simply had to transfer some fuel for aviation, motor transport and armored vehicles, and the USSR could have been preserved, and there would have been no need to transfer the Sakhalin oil fields under foreign control for decades.
              1. -1
                1 June 2025 06: 58
                In 1998

                I meant the withdrawal of our troops from Afghanistan, 1989. As for 98, you must agree that we no longer had time for Najibullah. I repeat, but the introduction of troops into this country was the beginning of the catastrophe of the Union. hi
                1. +6
                  1 June 2025 18: 34
                  Quote: ArchiPhil
                  As for 98, you must agree that we no longer had time for Najibullah.

                  Yeltsin imposed sanctions on Afghanistan, banning the sale of aviation fuel there. Incidentally, the first effective sanctions against Serbia were imposed not by NATO countries, but by Russia. There was such a figure at the time, Pavel Borodin. A Serbian company won a tender for the construction of treatment facilities from a Western European company, which Borodin, then an administrator in Yakutsk, condoned. In order to replay the tender, Borodin annulled the results of the tender, stating that sanctions had been imposed against Yugoslavia. Perhaps that is why he was later expelled from Europe on the tip of people interested in honest business conduct.
                  1. 0
                    1 June 2025 19: 08
                    such a figure is Pavel Borodin.

                    The Brooklyn prisoner? I remember him from the restoration of the Kremlin complex and numerous scandals, and also? He was quite an active fan of *Torpedo*, once he was not allowed into the VIP box (well, there were some misunderstandings there), so he sat with ordinary fans. bully
                2. +1
                  2 June 2025 05: 03
                  Quote: ArchiPhil
                  I repeat, but the introduction of troops into this country was the beginning of the catastrophe of the Union.

                  The introduction of troops into Afghanistan was a disaster not only for the USSR but also for the British Empire in the 19th century and for the USA in the 21st century. Amin was able to hold on to power in Afghanistan even without the introduction of the Soviet army. Najibullah held on to power quite successfully after the withdrawal of Soviet troops until Yeltsin left him without fuel. The Mujahideen, Taliban and pro-American presidents of Afghanistan Hamid Karzai, Abdullah Abdullah and Ashraf Ghani treated Russia and Putin much better than the former communists who came to power in the post-Soviet republics. Even Lukashenko did not recognize Crimea as Russian, and Hamid Karzai, having good relations with the USA, recognized it as Russian. Putin needs to restrain his FSB agents when they try to enter Afghanistan like an elephant in a china shop and play at finding agents of influence among the Afghans and then at eliminating Afghan political figures.
                  1. 0
                    2 June 2025 08: 13
                    and for the USA in the 21st century.

                    Hurry, dear colleague, hurry. The USA has been buried for a very long time, but....for now it exists. bully
                    when they try to enter Afghanistan like a bull in a china shop and play at finding agents of influence among the Afghans and at eliminating Afghan political figures...

                    I completely agree with you here, and this concerns not only Afghanistan. The East is of course a delicate matter, but the Americans manage to create regimes loyal to them, and we only need the fingers of one hand to count the number of allies. A riddle? I don't think so. hi
                    1. 0
                      3 June 2025 15: 38
                      Quote: ArchiPhil
                      We only need the fingers of one hand to count the number of allies

                      It's just that any country is interested in scientific and technical cooperation with the US or Russia, not political cooperation. While the US was widely training students from China, they had unlimited influence on the Chinese leadership. And no one wants to interact with Russia or the US through the FSB or the CIA. In extreme cases, they can ask to place a relative from Hekmatyar's security in the Presidential Regiment at the Kremlin.
          2. +4
            31 May 2025 13: 38
            Hello, dear Sergey Ivanovich! hi For me, the topic of the war in Afghanistan is one of the most difficult in the history of the USSR. Thank you for the explanation. I have read similar words as you wrote in other sources.
            Quote: Aviator_
            ....... If war is inevitable (and it was inevitable then)... Najibullah, who held all the bass players EBN........ cut off his supplies. After that, the war began inside the USSR (and in your Abkhazia too). It is surprising that you do not know these elementary things, being captive to the opinions of the common people.

            As I understand it, the problem remains, on another level. How will it be?
            1. +2
              31 May 2025 14: 06
              If war is inevitable (and it was then)...

              No, it was not inevitable! If at the Politburo level there were obvious opponents of sending our troops there. The Yankees literally took ours on a dare, like if not you, then we will take control of Afghanistan. And the Chief of the General Staff Ogarkov was categorically against it.
          3. +3
            31 May 2025 19: 41
            Lyudmila Yakovlevna, do you seriously think that sending troops across the river was a mistake?


            There are many unclear points, Amin himself seemed to have asked for the introduction of Soviet troops, why he was ultimately eliminated is unclear, it looks like some kind of internal struggle between the KGB and the military. Not long ago there was an article on topvar

            Was Amin a CIA agent?
            https://topwar.ru/261987-byl-li-amin-agentom-cru.html
            1. +4
              31 May 2025 20: 19
              There are a lot of unclear points there, Amin himself seemed to have asked for the introduction of Soviet troops.
              There was not only Amin, there was also Taraki after the Saur revolution (April 1978) who asked to bring in troops. They really wanted to live like the last Assad - so that we would chase after their Basmachi, and they would do nothing. The only normal ruler was Najibullah, and EBN betrayed him.
          4. -1
            17 October 2025 11: 51
            Quote: Aviator_
            If war is inevitable (and it was inevitable then), then it is better to wage it on foreign territory, and not on one’s own.

            1) with BY WHOM war? With your own protege Amin- asking for advisers and troops?
            2) If the war was inevitable, as you claim, then the Soviet military leadership were fools - because the army was categorically against sending in troops, Brezhnev was hesitant, and only intelligence was in favor. But I have a nagging doubt that intelligence, as usual, screwed up.
    2. +3
      1 June 2025 22: 14
      No country, no graveyard
      I don't want to choose.
      To Vasilievsky Island
      I will come to die.
      Your facade is dark blue
      I can't find it in the dark,
      between the faded lines
      I'll fall on the asphalt.

      And the soul, relentlessly
      rushing into the darkness
      fly over the bridges
      in the Petrograd smoke,
      and April drizzle
      there's snow under the back of my head,
      and I will hear a voice:
      - Goodbye, my friend!

      And I will see two lives
      far beyond the river,
      to an indifferent fatherland
      pressing my cheek,
      - like sister girls
      from unlived years,
      running out onto the island,
      waving at the boy.
      1962.
      He loved Leningrad very much.
  4. +5
    31 May 2025 06: 29
    There is a cartoon where a crocodile reads poetry to a cow, boo boo boo, boo boo boo, mournfully, Brodsky, one on one.
    1. +6
      31 May 2025 08: 26
      Quote: Alexey 1970
      read poems to the cow boo boo boo, boo boo boo,

      Let someone say it better:
      :
      ...With God, eagles, Cossacks, hetmans, warriors!
      Only when you come and die, bulls,
      you will wheeze, scratching the edge of the mattress,
      lines from Alexander, not nonsense Taras
      .
    2. +4
      31 May 2025 12: 27
      Quote: Alex 1970
      There is a cartoon where a crocodile reads poetry to a cow, boo boo boo, boo boo boo, mournfully, Brodsky, one on one.

      By the way, this is typical of many poets - I have not met a single one who read their Poetry is acceptable. Everyone is mumbling and monotonous. Maybe they are thus indicating rhythm, which is very important in poetry. In general, strange as it may seem, poems are better perceived visually than by ear. They should sound in the head from the inside, not from the outside. Here in the comments, a confrontation has emerged between people who perceive poetry as a whole, and people who perceive only its semantic part, without taking into account the image created by the rhythm and sound of the verse. They in vain accuse each other of underdevelopment and cunning. This is simply a different type of perception, given from birth. Approximately the same thing happens when perceiving music - for some, it does not exist without text, and for some, decoding the musical message with text seems primitive. This confrontation only prevents us from finding out the true reasons for not accepting this or that author.
      My opinion: Brodsky is an undeniable talent, but he used his talent to describe his personal thoughts and impressions, which, due to their photographic truthfulness, are powerful, but not everyone can accept them. This is normal.
      1. +4
        1 June 2025 09: 46
        Yevtushenko, Rozhdestvensky, Voznesensky, Bella Akhmadulina - they read their poems magnificently.
        1. 0
          1 June 2025 13: 50
          Quote: balabol
          Yevtushenko, Rozhdestvensky, Voznesensky, Bella Akhmadulina - they read their poems magnificently.

          Yes, this is a separate galaxy that shone in the polytechnic Yes
          They are characterized by publicity, artistic behavior, and "more than poetic" wink Rather, the manner was taken as a model, due to the commitment to what the author declared.
          Although Rozhdestvensky’s manner of reading was even a reason for parodies.
          By the way, weren't bards from them?
          1. +1
            1 June 2025 20: 12
            Bards - Poets and songwriters perform a piece of music with a guitar. The performer is simultaneously the author of both the lyrics and the music. At the same time, he is not a professional poet or composer. Somehow, he does not fit in with the listed poets of the sixties, only in time.
            I have a three-fold "no" for them - I didn't listen, they weren't attracted, I don't appreciate them.
            Unlike Voznesensky or Akhmadulina, for example. I listened, the performance leaves a much deeper feeling than the reading. It's captivating like good blues.
            1. 0
              1 June 2025 20: 34
              It seems to me that it was the arrival of the poetry of the sixties among the "student masses" that caused the flourishing of bard songs. Of course, I could be wrong. Many people gathered at Messerer's, Vysotsky also visited, and at the evenings at the Polytechnic, Okudzhava performed alongside the "pure" poets.
              It is difficult for me to discuss the professionalism of poets - where is the determining criterion? Education, membership in a literary union? Everything is decided by the level of creativity, but at a certain level its assessment often suffers from subjectivity. request
  5. +6
    31 May 2025 06: 59
    Brodsky wrote a poem in the early 90s called "On the Independence of Ukraine", where he very accurately defined what Ukraine is and who the pig-faces are. The text is in Brodsky's style, hard to read, but the poem is spot on! wink
  6. +6
    31 May 2025 07: 13
    I. Brodsky received the Nobel Prize first of all as a citizen of the world, at that time it was a very fashionable word, which was later on the tip of the tongue even of the former Stavropol combine operator, by the way, he received the same prize, following Brodsky. What to say about the poet's poetic activity - I will not undertake to judge, I am not an amateur, I have not read anything and do not know anything, and I am unlikely to find out. What I do know - in his speech in Stockholm, when receiving the prize, Brodsky called himself an anthropological phenomenon, and maybe that is so, but he was a simple Soviet parasite.
  7. +5
    31 May 2025 08: 22
    He was awarded the Nobel Prize for insertions like these:
    I thought I was deprived of the regime
    familiarization with its contents.
    He called the Soviet government a regime, that's why they exiled him. Certainly not Pushkin.
    1. +7
      31 May 2025 11: 55
      Quote: aybolyt678
      He called the Soviet government a regime, that's why they exiled him. Certainly not Pushkin.

      In the quoted lines, the word "regime" most likely refers to the conditions of stay in Baltiysk, which applied to everyone.
      1. +2
        31 May 2025 12: 38
        maybe, but the overall tone of the poems is discontent, dissatisfaction and other negative feelings. the style is like a schoolchild's, there are no flying phrases, at least I don't know.
        1. +4
          31 May 2025 12: 50
          Quote: aybolyt678
          maybe, but the overall tone of the poems is discontent, dissatisfaction and other negative feelings. the style is like a schoolchild's, there are no flying phrases, at least I don't know.

          I sang about how I felt)
          As for the fleeting phrases - yes, although it probably depends on the people who perceive his poems. Surely those who like him can quote something about situations that arise in the current moment. I am not an expert on Brodsky, but I got a strange impression - you admire a line, the precision of the conveyed feeling, and then forget it. Probably because this feeling does not resonate with your own emotions. Although one thing stuck in my memory: "lifting up a beauty's skirt, you see what you were looking for, and not new marvelous divas..." laughing
  8. +6
    31 May 2025 08: 32
    You should also write on the toilet: here he took a shit...... I don't know who hasn't read this and I don't plan to. All these laureates, as a rule, received awards for hatred of the USSR.
    1. +3
      31 May 2025 20: 06
      I haven't read it, but I angrily condemn it
      Familiar to the point of nausea. Here comes another Polygraph Polygraphovich. I knew there were many of them, but I didn't think how abundant.
  9. VLR
    +16
    31 May 2025 08: 47
    Brodsky about Moscow in the poem “Presentation”:
    "The best view of this city is from a bomber."

    And, unlike other Russian poets, Brodsky and his poems are not loved and are practically unknown in Russia. They "don't grab" people. People are absolutely indifferent to Brodsky and his poems.
    1. 0
      31 May 2025 11: 00
      Quote: VlR
      Б
      And, unlike other Russian poets, Brodsky and his poems are not loved and are practically unknown in Russia. They "don't grab" people. People are absolutely indifferent to Brodsky and his poems.
      Are you the people? And who gave you the right to speak on behalf of the entire people?
      There are so many Klim Chugunkins that there is nowhere to step without getting into trouble.
  10. +4
    31 May 2025 09: 02
    Since this is a MILITARY REVIEW after all
    so I will dare to post here Brodsky's poem "On the Death of Zhukov", written already in exile

    I see columns of frozen grandchildren,
    coffin on a gun carriage, horses' croup.
    The wind doesn't bring me any sounds here.
    Russian military crying trumpets.
    I see a corpse in regalia, removed:
    The fiery Zhukov leaves for death.
    A warrior before whom many fell
    walls, although the sword was duller than the enemy's,
    the brilliance of the Hannibal maneuver
    reminiscent of the Volga steppes.
    He ended his days in disgrace,
    like Belisarius or Pompey.
    How much soldier's blood did he shed?
    to a foreign land! Well, were you grieving?
    Did the dying man in civilian clothes remember them?
    white bed? A complete failure.
    What will he answer when they meet in hell?
    areas with them? "I fought."
    To the right cause Zhukov's right hand
    will no longer be useful in battle.
    Sleep! The history of the Russian page
    enough for those in the infantry
    boldly entered foreign capitals,
    but they returned to their own in fear.
    Marshal! Greedy Lethe will swallow you up
    these words and your prahorya.
    Still, accept them - a pitiful mite
    to the one who saved the homeland, speaking out loud.
    Beat, drum, and military flute,
    1. -1
      31 May 2025 09: 51
      Well, yes, the classic words of the enemies of the USSR: “Victory, but at what cost?”, “they covered the enemy in corpses.”
    2. +1
      31 May 2025 17: 35
      I didn't understand anything, it's some kind of nonsense
  11. +6
    31 May 2025 09: 05
    Let's play decadence, as they say...
    He was born a bit late. His place would have been among the Silver Age crowd.
    Among which, however, there were also some like this:
    - between the clouds and the sea the petrel proudly flutters, like black lightning.
    Or even like these:
    -I am happy: this is my work.
    Joins the work of my Republic!
    And not about the bottle and its contents, to which the thought always returns.
    The question of what to write about is no less important than how to write. If it is brilliant to drive out gloom and depressiveness, if Stalin is suddenly guilty of Akhmatova's unrequited love for Gumilev, then there are fans of such things... but in general, the people need something else: heroes, fun, humor, morality (you, priest, should not chase cheapness), memory of exploits, bright sadness and melancholy, we all love the brilliant children's songs of Gladkov, Onufriev, Krylatov, Entin...
    And misunderstood geniuses are misunderstood because their genius does not reach the highest level - brilliant simplicity.
    And this matter cannot be corrected by decrees, party policy or cultural leadership. The people will know and remember Pushkin, Nekrasov, Vysotsky for centuries, but the Brodskys and Akhmatovas are the lot of knowledge of "special people" who are "not like everyone else". They have the right, but there is no need to despise and teach everyone.
    Sometimes, such things are combined in one person, for me, David Tukhmanov is an example, there are many such immortal works, they sang, sing and will sing, but then he went into very complex and ambiguous music, which may be an order of magnitude more virtuosic for a professional ear, but for the people "didn't go". As they say, where is "Victory Day" or "From the Vagants", "My Address is the Soviet Union" and where is "UFO".
    The first rule that any sergeant major instills in a new recruit is: "Don't be smart here! This is not the place for you."
    So, I advise "a young man pondering his life" to be guided. And when and if the time comes to be smart (and bear responsibility), you yourself will remember with longing when it was "not necessary".
    1. +2
      31 May 2025 14: 51
      Quote: faterdom
      We all love the brilliant children's songs of Gladkov, Onufriev, Krylatov, Entin.

      we love them, of course. But some people stopped at them, considering them the pinnacle of human development
      Quote: faterdom
      - of brilliant simplicity

      Some simplicity is worse than theft.
      Quote: faterdom
      , and the Brodskys and Akhmatovas are the lot of knowledge of "special people"

      21, night, Monday, etc. for special people?! No way..

      Tsvetaeva, Blok, Severyanin, etc. too?
      Quote: faterdom
      So, "to the young man pondering his life" I will advise be guided by.

      You answered yourself:
      Quote: faterdom
      There is no need to teach everyone.


      Let everyone learn everything and get pleasure and joy not from "a tractor in a field of holes-holes-holes" but from, for example:

      I learned to live simply and wisely,
      Look at the sky and pray to God,
      And wander for a long time before evening,
      To relieve unnecessary anxiety.
      When burdocks rustle in the ravine
      And the yellow-red rowan berry cluster droops,
      I compose funny poems
      About life, perishable, perishable and beautiful.
      I'm coming back. Licks my palm
      Fluffy cat, purrs more sweetly,
      And a bright fire burns
      On the tower of the lake sawmill.
      Only occasionally does the silence break through
      The cry of a stork that has flown onto the roof.
      And if you knock on my door,
      I don't think I'll even hear it.
      1. +2
        31 May 2025 18: 23
        Even if you are a "special person", here is a test for you, with examples of 200-year aging:
        off the top of my head, two poems by Derzhavin and two poems by Pushkin?
        And answer yourself honestly: did you succeed? And what exactly?
        But Derzhavin was mistaken when he arrogantly “blessed”: “Here is a new Derzhavin for you!”
        And it turns out that this was Pushkin. Whose language is still understandable and modern to us, without the need for numerous brackets (outdated).
        Why? The people use it, that's why the language is alive, but the people don't use the language of Derzhavin's odes, they probably haven't matured enough in 200 years.
        Or two views of the same fruit:
        -Pineapples in champagne, fresh and light... I'm all in something Spanish...
        -Eat pineapples, chew hazel grouse, your last day is coming, bourgeois!
        1. +1
          1 June 2025 07: 13
          Quote: faterdom
          People don't use it, they haven't grown up enough, probably, in 200 years

          The language of "The Tale of the Regiment... the people don't use it - haven't grown up enough? No, they have grown up enough - the language is alive and constantly developing, including thanks to poets and writers.

          Quote: faterdom
          Or two views


          Two upbringings, educations, developments: someone will see in "I like that you are sick not with me2" the beauty of human feelings, and someone will see the joy that he did not infect his sexual partner with syphilis.
  12. +5
    31 May 2025 09: 09
    I had a guy at my reception. He said, read Brodsky, there's something about a cemetery. I advised him to listen to Grebnya - it's all crap, if you ask me.
  13. +2
    31 May 2025 11: 41
    For me, Pillau will always be Venetta-3 for Fligender Hollarder Von Zwischen
  14. +2
    31 May 2025 17: 06
    In my opinion, his poems are pretty shitty.
    1. +2
      31 May 2025 17: 33
      The taste and color markers are different.
  15. +4
    31 May 2025 17: 57
    Where there are ugly rhymes,
    You won't be able to send letters anymore,
    Where the Brodsky idlers roam,
    Making poetry out of shit.
    What's the point of breaking fingers?
    On PEK keyboards?
    In "VO" elderly boys
    Everything is puffed up after centuries...
  16. 0
    1 June 2025 00: 46
    Quote: aybolyt678
    He was awarded the Nobel Prize for insertions like these:
    I thought I was deprived of the regime
    familiarization with its contents.
    He called the Soviet government a regime, that's why they exiled him. Certainly not Pushkin.

    Judging by the kind of person the "sun of Russian poetry" was, I think he would have never taken root in the USSR. He would have been hounded for "antisocial behavior" etc.
  17. -1
    1 June 2025 00: 53
    Quote: faterdom
    The first rule that any sergeant major instills in a new recruit is: "Don't be smart here! This is not the place for you."
    So, I would advise "a young man pondering his life" to be guided by this.
  18. +1
    1 June 2025 08: 56
    Quote: ROSS 42
    Quote: Mikhail Drabkin
    That's why he's a genius.

    Brodsky's genius is highly questionable in comparison with the genius of Russian poets. The founder of rap. His poems are hard to digest. The rhymes are complex and, unlike Mayakovsky's, do not give anyone the right to recognize his poems as easy to create. So you can recognize drunken delirium as an entertaining narrative. Here's what they write about him:
    On June 4, 1972, Joseph Brodsky left Russia forever. In his suitcase he packed a typewriter, two bottles of vodka for W. H. Auden, and a collection of John Donne's poems. Deprived of his Soviet citizenship, he flew from Leningrad to Vienna on an "Israeli visa," as required by the rules of Jewish emigration. Three years later, he would write about it:
    Blowing into a hollow pipe, like your fakir,
    I walked through the line of janissaries in green,
    feeling the cold of their evil axes with my eggs,
    as when entering the water. And so, with salty
    the taste of this water in my mouth,
    I crossed the line...

    Sorry, but I am one of those people who agree with the opinion:
    "True art should be understandable to everyone, including the most simple and illiterate people"

    Let him remain widely known in a narrow circle of his connoisseurs and admirers.


    Personal opinion.
    Mayakovsky's rhymes are light and poetic?!
    Correspond to events - yes.
    Slogans - yes.
    Reflect personal emotionality - probably yes.
    But light and poetic?
  19. 0
    1 June 2025 19: 59
    The Peter and Paul Fortress on the Neva. It was supposed to defend the city named after him.
    The author does not need to vulgarize an idea full of meaning. Peter the Great was a sovereign and did not suffer from a flawed conceit - the desire to leave his name everywhere. He was a deeply religious man.
    The city was originally called Sankt Pieter Burch (from Dutch - "city of Saint Peter"). Only in 1720 it officially became Saint Petersburg.
    Emperor Peter I, the founder of the city, dreamed of naming it after his patron saint long before the fortress was built. The name "Saint Petersburg" - "the city of Saint Peter" - was appropriate for a fortress being built at the exit to the Baltic Sea. It is a gateway to the big world, almost paradise.
    The first cathedral in the mentioned fortress is called Peter and Paul Cathedral, like the fortress. In honor of Saints Peter and Paul. The cathedral is the burial place of the emperors of Russia.
    The duality of Saints Peter and Paul in the Christian tradition has a deep theological and symbolic meaning.
    Symbol of the Unity of the Church: Saints Peter and Paul represent two key figures in early Christianity. Peter, as one of the twelve apostles and the first pope, symbolizes the foundation of the Church, while Paul, as the apostle to the Gentiles, represents its expansion and universality. Their unity underlines that the Church unites believers from different cultures and nations.
    Different but complementary roles: Peter and Paul had different missions and approaches to preaching. Peter focused on Jewish audiences, while Paul actively converted Gentiles. This diversity of approaches shows that there is room in the Church for different gifts and ministries that complement each other.
    A Lesson on Humility and Cooperation: Despite their differences, Peter and Paul worked together to spread Christianity. Their cooperation exemplifies humility and a willingness to engage in dialogue that is relevant to Christianity today.
    Symbol of Martyrdom: Both saints were martyrs for their faith. Their sacrifice and devotion to God highlight the importance of perseverance and faithfulness in the Christian journey.
  20. 0
    1 June 2025 22: 07
    She was supposed to defend the city named after him.
    Well, to be fair, it wasn't him, but the Apostle Peter
  21. -1
    3 June 2025 14: 24
    Why do we need him? He is essentially a dissident. That's why he got an Ig Nobel!!
    I don't know much about poetry, but his rhymes are INDIGESTIBLE!
  22. 0
    3 June 2025 15: 29
    You look at history and you see that if someone speaks out against Russia, no matter what government circles, then tsarism, then communism, then the current situation, then immediately in Europe and the USA they become fighters for democracy, sufferers from the authorities, etc., the main thing is that they receive world prizes and grants.
  23. 0
    30 September 2025 13: 21
    Quote: ROSS 42
    Sorry, but I am one of those people

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