Conspiracy Theory: "Is the opposition losing ground?"

We are talking about Konstantin Lebedev, who is accused of that, together with Razvozzhaev and Udaltsov, he was going to make unrest for the money of Georgian politician Givi Targamadze.

Oppositional Lebedev Recognized Genuine Entry from 2 Protest Anatomy

An activist of the “Left Front” confirmed to the investigators that the videotape of the conversation of the Georgian politician Givi Targamadze with the Russian oppositionists is real, said lawyer of Konstantin Lebedev Valery Lavrov.

Lebedev pleaded guilty and filed a motion to consider the case in a special order. The investigation believes that last May 6 on Bolotnaya Square in Moscow, Konstantin Lebedev together with Sergei Udaltsov, Leonid Razvozzhaev and Givi Targamadze organized mass riots using violence against a government official.

According to Lente.ru, lawyer Valery Lavrov, the court will consider his case in a special order. In accordance with the Code of Criminal Procedure of the Russian Federation, a special procedure for the consideration of a case is appointed when the defendant is found guilty. When considering the case in a special order, the court does not examine the evidence; while the accused can get no more than two-thirds of the maximum term provided for by the Criminal Code of Russia. Sergei Udaltsov believes that Konstantin Lebedev "showed inadmissible weakness and framed his comrades."

According to him, Lebedev "made a deal with the investigation and incriminated himself in the hope of a mitigation of punishment."

“I don’t know that it was possible to admit that there was a guilt, because there wasn’t such a mass riot,” Leonid Razvozzhaev’s lawyer Alexander Denisov told Lente.ru.

Whether or not the confession of guilt is reflected in the case of his client, the lawyer could not say, because he does not know what evidence Lebedev gave to the investigation. The case of the preparation of mass riots in the Russian Federation was filed in the fall of 2012, after the release of the program “Anatomy of Protest-2”, in which the recording of the meeting of Lebedev, Razvozzhaev and Udaltsov with Targamadze was shown. According to investigators, the talks were held in June 2012, in Minsk.

All prospective meeting participants deny their participation in it. Subsequently, the case on the preparation of riots combined into one production with the "swamp affair", which at that time had already been investigated for several months. At the last meeting on the extension of the arrest of Leonid Razvozzhaev - 29 March 2013 of the year - the investigator said that the Investigative Committee of the Russian Federation considers Razvozzhaev, Udaltsov, Lebedev and Targamadze to be the organizers of the unrest on Bolotnaya Square on May 6. Officially they are not charged with this.

It seems that the opposition was bored with the "romance of protest." "Revolution", as it turned out, is not at all such a merry affair. It's one thing to get money from Western curators and PR on TV, and quite another, to be responsible for your actions. As you can see, soon we will witness, handing over each other in a race, our "oppositionists". And this, in turn, completely ruin the already degraded movement of "disgruntled citizens." However, who would doubt ...

Comments

[smel]

Nobody needs mouse fuss in the square, swamp or elsewhere. Rock the boat ??? Yes, that's just the powers that be do not want a commoner to listen ... What to do ???

[Nicholas C.]

The opposition, or rather other opinions, should be interesting from compatriots. Those who work for the money of foreign countries are worse than traitors, they are vile enemies. Any of their opinions is a lie and poison.

[domokl]

Quote: Nikolai S.

The opposition, or rather other opinions, should be interesting from compatriots.

Something like this happened, sometimes you even think about the divine, that in our country those values ​​that people say in the West simply turn into a laughing stock and betrayal ... Liberalism, the opposition, trade unions and further down the list ..
And vice versa, what seems to be outlawed by everyone there (not only by the state, but also by citizens) (such as drunkenness at the wheel, corruption, bribery, etc.) is in bloom ... True, we are an Asian with our through development ... And that means you have to stop listening to all the extraordinarily

[S_mirnov]

The organizing committee of Bolotnaya Square should not be called the loud word opposition. This is a crowd of clowns! And their goal was one - to direct the just anger of the people in a safe direction. What they brilliantly managed.

[Grenz]

S_mirnov (2)
Is there only a crowd of clowns?
Who so well prepared instructions for them. Here is definitely the hand of a professional.
And the attempts to present them only as lost sheep are nothing but an attempt to evade their responsibility. As Nikitin and the others were protected at one time, and then exchanged for our agents, thereby admitting that they were SPIES! So that!
Read the excerpts and conclude - are they like lambs !!!
".... check if your cell phone is charged. Take a spare battery. Top up your balance. Pay at home for the Internet. Charge your camera, video camera, free up space on a flash drive, cassette, disk. Take a flashlight, matches, paper with you. For resistance gas attack, take a handkerchief, cotton-gauze bandage, bandana.
If necessary, you can moisten them with water and put on your face. Wear Arab shawls, bandanas, scarves only when necessary.
Take the tablets you need, prepare the bandages, cotton wool, green stuff.
Remember! It is always easier to rescue detained comrades using the "people's anger". The police car must be urgently surrounded and blocked until the arrested person is returned. You can simply beat off the cops on foot. At the same time, the people should participate in this as much as possible. If you didn’t see it, and your comrade was taken to the department, quickly organize a popular procession to the department and yell at the threshold until they give him back. Do not disperse until you get the arrested person safe and sound. "
This is how gentlemen and comrades prepare volunteers for Bolotnaya for the money of non-profit organizations !!!

[Gluxar_]

Quote: smel

Nobody needs mouse fuss in the square, swamp or elsewhere. Rock the boat ??? Yes, that's just the powers that be do not want a commoner to listen ... What to do ???

They want to listen, only the correct ears need to be found.
The fact that some of the people got off the rails and invented false ideas about freedom and democracy for themselves does not mean that they will not be held accountable for their crimes according to the law. I hope that this will sober up the part of the "vanilla population" that has played with creativity and Westernism, sitting their asses in salons and studios.

[aksakal]

Quote: Gluxar_

I hope that this will sober up the part of the "vanilla population" that has played with creativity and Westernism, sitting their asses in salons and studios.

- It’s sobering, if you demonstrate the inevitability of punishment on the example of the same hero of this Sabzh and his funny gop company - daredevils-messengers with an emissary from Georgia. If you show an example of avoiding punishment, some conditional sentences and other mitigating things, tomorrow the marsh will grow quantitatively and qualitatively at times! See, they are quiet and watching. Conclusions are drawn. Well, it’s necessary that this

Quote: Gluxar_

part of the "vanilla population" who played with creativity

I came to a terrible conclusion for myself - but you have to sit in an uncomfortable Russian prison for many years! Passion-taking is not sweet right now - every night after evening checking and hanging up, they cry for a long pillow, count down and regret what they had done, supposedly, they would take time back - the tenth dear would be the unfortunate Temple! Although the court was scamming around - like, we Kuul, nowhere is cooler!

[domokl]

Quote: aksakal

Sobering up if you demonstrate the inevitability of punishment

The fact of the matter is that they will punish again a small bipod, those who were together, but not the main one ... Where is Sobchak? Where is Kudrin? And others like them ... And it will turn out just like with Khodorkovsky-the society will be a wifi-wifi .. Some rejoice, others feel sorry, do martyrs ...

Quote: aksakal

Passiryotam is not sweet right now - every night after evening checking and hanging up, they cry into the pillow, long ones count

And here, according to Senka, and a hat ... The Russian people are merciful, forgives a lot .. Besides betrayal and abuse of temples ...

[aksakal]

Quote: domokl

Where is Kudrin? And others like them ... And everything will turn out the same as with Khodorkovsky-the society will be fifti-fifti ..

- Domocles, these creatures that you have listed - you can't get it! Kudrin, I am sure, in the State Department, like Kasparov, is strictly forbidden to "violate the law"! They can voice liberoid delirium to indicate who they are and who is behind them. This is not punishable by the law of the Russian Federation! But when and where did you see that Kudrin and Kasparov took weapons and went to the riot police? Well, or other obvious crimes, so that they could be closed with good reason. They don’t even steal! And they also need to climb the barricades - why? When there are a lot of such fools as the hero of the SABZH! One hope is that the people will look at this and will keep away from the curly-casparovs, as from lepers. Then there will be a result - they have been spinning the curls with Kasparov for a long time, and then new coordinators of the opposition movement will be needed, so that there would be new faces. You need to start all over again, but before that these already known, but useless ones will need to be put somewhere. They will get confused under their feet, and look - they may decide to blackmail. Martyrs of the regime? Yes Easy! There are already those, the zapadents can easily do such, they do not mind!

[domokl]

Quote: aksakal

But when and where did you see that Kudrin and Kasparov took weapons and marched on riot police?

Well, yes ... But the grandmother is a pensioner who threw empty plastic bottles live and OMON under investigation and signing about not leaving ... I generally speak about this constantly. You read, for example, the comment of nationalists and you understand that the boy doesn’t have brains ... One-on-one Baptist preachers who periodically knock on the door, memorized phrases, blinkers of quotes and a complete lack of their own thinking ... But these will go under the batons and Cheremuha, and then into the zone. ..

[S_mirnov]

"Passiriots are not sweet now - every night after the evening check-up and lights out, they cry in the pillow, the long ones count down and regret what they have done" - beauty, but is it possible that Vova and Dimona and the entire staff of the State Duma sit in the next cell? Another would be corrupt cops and judges there, and Gundyaev with Lazar! There will be a full quorum.
Here everyone is trying to write off popular performances on certain pro-Western creatives who have nothing to do, but forget that the bulk of the protesters were citizens who were tired of the thieves' regime destroying our country.
Politically active people do not like what they do with their country:
"The government adopted a new program for the development of the North Caucasian Federal District until 2025, which is based on plans for resettlement throughout Russia and employment of unemployed and poor Caucasians. As the White House admitted, the allocation of significant funds from the budget to the region does not have a positive effect."
http://www.newsru.com/russia/15sep2010/kavkaz.html
http://www.nr2.ru/moskow/432350.html
http://demotivation.me/c1egtwfm7ev4pic.html#.UV_A0TfvtSM

Presenting popular discontent as a riot of some unreasonable hamsters is the main goal of the Russian media, you should not believe this, you are fed another misinformation.

[Geisenberg]

How to be: say less nonsense, keep silent and listen more.

[DimychDV]

That's it! People are NOT for revolutionaries in mink coats. But not for such power as in from in this rhyme from the Far East:

ELITE IN THE WAY

Forums and meetings have been whizzed,
The summit has sunk into oblivion, like a dream.
Look, mournful speeches hate
And the last path has already been outlined
For Kremlin VIPs.

The ancient gates swung open
An unearthly fragrant garden
The choir sings divine notes
Serve nectar (who wants to hunt),
Virgin nude soar.

The situation is so-so. Abruptly
We saw VIPs on the ground.
But they all rushed screaming bunch
Racing to the treasured tents:
Wait for what, if the rating is at zero? ..

Stepping on each other's feet
Torn in anger wild and blind
With obscene selective loud barking
Like a vodka line in the general store.

“You guys don’t stir up the water,
Here are the other rules for now,
This is where you have freedom in everything, -
They say solemnly at the entrance
Two wings of peasant men with wings. -

Paradise is the abode of the orphans and the wretched,
With whom sorrow and misfortune were married
Who walked the righteous road
Who for a moment did not forget about God ...
You - to another place, gentlemen! ”

Gentlemen were covered with sticky sweat
Having received an assault from the Royal Gate.
Did not get into raider quotas
These unfortunate gates!
Who missed the entrance to the treasured garden ???

How so, it’s incomprehensible to the mind,
Do not even open the bribe door!
And the saints security guard
Chases away regime guardians
Straight up in tartarara.

For the first time, deservedly beaten,
A miserable look and a doomed look
The vaunted elite wandered
To the curve of a ragged gate,
Which leads to an ominous, terrible hell.

Murmur of the retinue: “What will happen to us?
Reluctance in the mud from the gentlemen.
Demons are incredulous people
They can’t be taken for like verbiage.
Third, educated people. "

... Here is the Hell. Creepy smell of burning
The stink and smoke of the eye mercilessly eats.
Dark mysterious creatures
Something is boiled in mashed pots -
So it looks like a night porch.

Fierce pork snouts around
Infernal hell, not to be seen.
A flock of hooves clogged
Well-groomed grabbed the pitchfork
Hooks and pokers.

To Shabashu, the hall is decorated with bones,
Waiting for the Doomsday to begin ...
Then, stunned on the go,
Our elite gave a voice
They asked the words of the Lord:

“Before letting us go to the city,
Business listen to advice:
It’s hard for you, standing hot in the workshop,
Without days off, days off, downtime
Work for so many thousand years!

Nanotechnology and Progress
You have not a drop in the kingdom of darkness.
Common we have interests:
Will you all be the Edinburghs
And we will be the One-Bosses!

We will increase your crafty rating,
Let’s take glamor and PR ... "
Evil devils drool
Dreamy belmami twirl
Forgetting tar, fire and steam.

They think: “As MILES and as PIECES
Sinners come to us again!
Lived like brainless junkies
In soot and terrible discomfort -
Give Horchortbes the horns! ”

... Demons stole ticks and grips,
Broke the forks and boilers.
The bosses at this time are stealing
Experienced - damn salary
Buried in distant corners.

Bosses drink a fly agaric cocktail,
Toad eat caviar tirelessly,
Contrary to all previous persuasions
They dig comfortable burrows
And just about to hell with everything.

Demons cry, ghouls groan
Ghouls went into a deep binge.
Led by stupidity to the enemies -
And order without much brawl
In a goat-footed society, another.

The devils caught on, they pray to God:
“Take them back, Lord!
It’s sick for us, hell, to look without pain,
How lost the original role
Our native and exemplary Hell! .. "

[alexng]

Well, traitors and punishment. Although it would be necessary for them to tear off something so that people like them would not be born anymore.

[Denis]

sorrow revolutionaries, they put a little pressure on them, they surrendered all of theirs with giblets, modern liberals in a word.

[baltika-18]

Quote: Denis

woe to the revolutionaries

These are not revolutionaries, this is foam.
They blew away and there are none of them. Our authorities choose something not serious enemies for themselves.
Something strange.....

[boots]

Quote: Denis

They blew away and there are none of them. Our authorities choose something not serious enemies for themselves.

Yes, having such friends and enemies is not necessary ...

[Ascetic]

Quote: baltika-18

They blew away and there are none of them. Our authorities choose something not serious enemies for themselves.
Something strange...

Yes, it’s not the government that elects them, but those who have been wiped out of power .. Remember the Medvedev’s presidency, you didn’t hear the freedom fighters and fair elections, because the fighters themselves were still in power or fed around ... Protests began only when Putin announced about in his decision to become president again and led the country to the wrong place, or rather to those who stand behind them ... They all almost ruled in the 90s, all were handshakes with dual citizenship and still consider themselves Russophobic to be lights and popular conscience ... Putin violated parity and cynically threw them (not those who walk with white ribbons, but those who still believed that it was possible to lay a bolt on Putin and his power based on the protection of foreign uncles) So they decided using proven methods how in Ukraine and Georgia, but for Russia the scenario that had already been worked out since the times of the USSR didn’t work out .. because Russia cannot be understood by the mind, all the more so terribly distant from it ... the people basically already choked on the Jewish temptations and didn’t take it bottom wiring ..

[domokl]

Quote: Denis

sorrow revolutionaries, they put a little pressure on them, they surrendered all of theirs with giblets, modern liberals in a word.

Everything is in a bunch ... A revolutionary cannot initially be a liberal ... And this, I agree, foam ... scale ... which any housewife throws into a bucket when cooking meat ...

[MVS]

Exhaled liberalists. State cuts US spending however ...

[svp67]

In Russia, thanks to historical experience, it is already known that if a person striving to remake the world for the better knows only how to destroy the old world and does not know how to create a new one, then he has little chance of success

[Gluxar_]

Quote: svp67

In Russia, thanks to historical experience, it is already known that if a person striving to remake the world for the better knows only how to destroy the old world and does not know how to create a new one, then he has little chance of success

Unfortunately, the opposite is true. And how many "oppositionists" were rolling out onto the streets is a vivid confirmation of this. How can people in general have such nonsense in their heads that they can protest "this is fashionable"? They were completely overwhelmed or something. People become so illiterate in political topics that they consider the irresponsibility of their behavior to be the norm and "trend". It is sad that they direct the excess of their time not to their own development, but to undermine the system that provided them with prosperity. typical expression pattern.

[djon3volta]

Quote: Gluxar_

People are so illiterate in political topics

these topics are being pushed to them by Internet fighters and whistleblowers of everyone and everything. You’ll think why these screamers from the marsh had no slogans, for example - freezing housing prices, down with corruption or visas for migrants .. because what is beneficial for Russia is not beneficial for the USA and the West and the opposition has the slogans that we all know are beneficial for the United States and the West, it’s down with Putin, re-election of the Duma, release prisoners, such as Khodorkovsky.

[Normal]

Quote: djon3volta

why did these screamers from the swamp not have slogans for example - freezing housing prices, down with corruption or visas for migrants ..

There were, but you weren’t there for that and you don’t know what and who was there. Watch less TV.

[Deniska999]

Anyway, what kind of opposition is this? Crowds gather and shout slogans that are not binding on anything. They do not have a program that could be put up as a counter to the modern course. And the ranting of Navalny and others like him is rubbish. But obviously from the West there was a trickle of money.

[Gluxar_]

Quote: Deniska999

Anyway, what kind of opposition is this? Crowds gather and shout slogans that are not binding on anything. They do not have a program that could be put up as a counter to the modern course. And the ranting of Navalny and others like him is rubbish. But obviously from the West there was a trickle of money.

This is the main trouble of our time. People are not so much unhappy as not busy. There is no sense of its usefulness and significance. They are caught by this .mole in order to influence the course of historical events it is enough to re-post some nonsense and go scream. The fact that in the end this can lead to their own death does not even occur to them.

[Deniska999]

Yes, you need to work, and produce. And now all the plants closed. Here in our city, instead of a number of factories, are business centers. And what do they produce necessary for the people, for the state? Nothing!

[djon3volta]

Quote: Deniska999

Here in our city, instead of a number of factories, are business centers. And what do they produce necessary for the people, for the state?

and before what did they produce?
here we have one plant closed in the 90s, which produced boards for military aircraft, and at the same time toys for cover. All the more, we did not close any strategically important plants. the rest all work, or retrained in another production.

[Deniska999]

Radio engineering (including working for the defense industry), a tire factory, if I’m not mistaken, a shoe factory, televisions, and a car factory (there, my two generations of my ancestors worked there).

[Kaa]

Powerful mountain stream from the Caucasus

[zambo]

For the three months of 2013 to finance NPOs In Russia received 1 billion. dale! This is how they hate us and want to destroy us!

[djon3volta]

Quote: zamboy

This is how they hate us and want to destroy us!

and some do it for free, on the Internet ..

[NAPOLEON]

this money only exists in Putin’s head

[antidote]

Why is it in Putin’s head? Yesterday, he listened to an interview with one of the leaders of the German foundation in the Russian Federation at Euronews. He honestly admitted that the money was coming in and when the correspondent asked him where it was spent he answered. what about office rental, conference room rental, etc. And what else would you answer?

[Yura]

Quote: NAPOLEON

this money only exists in Putin’s head

Do you understand VV Putin is the president of the country, and he cannot dare to rush just for words.

[NAPOLEON]

he says what they whisper in his ear or what he wants to hear.

[Urrry]

yes, in general, the foreign funds themselves and the officials of the US State Department do not particularly hide either the fact of financial assistance to "civil society" or the amount of cash injections ... so Putin, I think, will be able to substantiate the amounts he calls by direct references to official reports and speeches of organizations and officials making these payments and posted by them, officially, on the Internet

[NAPOLEON]

of course, they allocate money, but it is doubtful that this is a billion, even if all summed up. By the way, education reform, its planning was carried out partly to Western grandees.

[Gipmol]

NAPOLEON do you think Judas was an oppositionist? He also received a grant of 30 silver

[NAPOLEON]

suppose that you are right that getting money from abroad is a betrayal. then how to call it that all the accumulation of the stabilization fund and the reserve of the central bank is kept abroad and in foreign government bonds as it does not fit. well they are Judas then we must admit that our country was ruled by Judas for 70 years everyone knows how much money they made a revolution.

[UFO]

No damn it, walk on YOURSELF!

[treskoed]

I can’t call them oppositionists! Living on the money of the enemy and the country destroying ... Judas tribe ...

[antidote]

All the revolutionaries in Russia, beginning with Herzen, ate from the hands of England. Starikov tells about this well.

[alexanderrus.]

It is high time to remove this "pus" from the body of RUSSIA. These eternal parasite revolutionaries, internal enemies of OUR MOTHERLAND, lackeys of Western liberal organizers of world and regional wars!

[Atlon]

If it goes on like this, some of whom our small British "friends", with no hesitation, can condemn to a heart attack ... by hanging ... But what? So then at least some other benefit in the end! They will say: Putin is "bloody", strangled him with a scarf! And if they start to hand over each other, then it will reach the curators! Why be ashamed of that? Moreover, bog, waste material ...

[shinobi]

Shaking people into a riot in a small Arab state is one thing, but in huge Russia it is quite another. In the "Orphan's Law" there were a couple of tricky points about nko. One prohibiting their activities, the second about criminal responsibility. There is no money from over the hill and no one to sit for free wants. '' Here the oppas were blown away.

[shurup]

Do you still think you live in "Huge" Russia? How are you better than the Mayflyers who think they live in "Great" America?
Between us, sitting in prison, only your old mother will help you.
Do not follow oppami - sometimes call mom.

[krasin]

Their job is to allocate money, organize rallies, demonstrate dissent, and there you look and the yellow revolution will crawl through. But no, it didn’t.
Now this money goes mainly to the Internet. Dear you see everything for yourself.
If Putin shuts off the bungalow with money, there will be less shit and desin at times on sites. They will have to go somewhere to earn bread and toss, he also sucks money on the Internet.
It is our Russians who receive a salary, without taxes in dollars. It would be necessary if these organizations are known, - to announce, according to the list. The country must know its "heroes".
Or am I wrong ????

[elmi]

For me, the opposition is so different, one against the development of Russia - Westerners, the other for the development of Russia, but seeing the development differently, respectively, disagreeing with the policies of the ruling party. In any case, criticism of the government is sometimes useful. But when the NGOs, NGOs, etc., cut off the money supply from abroad and ultimately close them, then it will be clear who is who and the opposition will probably be reduced.

[Yura]

Quote: elmi

For me, the opposition is so different,

Perhaps this is still not quite true, your voiced

Quote: elmi

another for the development of Russia, but seeing the development differently, respectively, disagreeing with the policies of the ruling party. In any case, criticism of power is sometimes useful.

This is the opposition.

Quote: elmi

one against the development of Russia - Westerners

and this is akin to traitors.

[Natalia]

We are talking about Konstantin Lebedev, who is accused of that, together with Razvozzhaev and Udaltsov, he was going to make unrest for the money of Georgian politician Givi Targamadze.

Hang these bitch children in one place, right on Red Square .........

[a jacket]

Quote: Natalia

Hang these bitch children in one place, right on Red Square .........

It’s not bad to put on a stake

[Natalia]

Quote: jacket

It’s not bad to put on a stake

......... well, or at stake, the option is also very productive

[djon3volta]

Lebedevs, Razzzhaevs, and Udaltsovs acknowledge anything if they talk to them seriously, because they are fighting not for an idea, but for loot.

[NAPOLEON]

and Putin protects the members of the cooperative lake. not without reason they were so worried because of the Magnitsky list even found a boy who died in the United States and before that his death had not interested them for several years.

[Heccrbq]

Napoleon, would you give up gas oil, etc. (I'm talking about the Lake cooperative) to unfamiliar uncles or friends?

[NAPOLEON]

and why someone should give something to someone.

[Isk1984]

I don’t understand some, it’s understandable that swamp and the like, well, who are they? Judging by Navodvorskaya and her kind, people are obviously with a sick mind .... But why so many scouts, special units to throw at their capture and stuffing in jail, I do not understand this in my opinion ostentatious zeal, it would be better to give the command in Moscow thieves in law also covered their businesses, lawlessnesses from Chechnya with the crusts of the FSB, that’s where the real threat is internal corruption. What an example is needed: Serdyuk with ... l billion and stroked his head, and why transfer a bunch of gulps to them to transfer resources to them , less needs to be said about them, people, for the most part, are laughing at them .... I’m why I’m writing all the wrong ways to dig and not so much doing things in the country and so many problems in order to deal with white tape ....

[CCA]

Which, in principle, was to be expected ... The correct course of action: first, highlighting corruption, then discrediting in the eyes of society, and only then arrest and bringing charges ... If, as usual, everything would have been the other way around, they would have produced continuous "prisoners of conscience" ... And so it is necessary to act with them ... so that life does not seem like honey ...

[NAPOLEON]

the most interesting thing is that the daredevil is a left-wing oppositionist and he does not find support from visitors to the patriotic website and it is immediately recalled that Lenin also took bourgeois money and the state with which the war was fought and at the same time he is not condemned by anyone where the logic is it not patriotic .and who can prove that Targamadze did not work for the FSB. and by and large these are morgenals.

[Urrry]

Hmm, what matters does Udaltsov look like Lenin in some way and whether Torgamadze worked for the FSB. What matters here is that the activities of both Udaltsov and Torgamadze were aimed at weakening manageability in the country, creating chaos and escalating the civil conflict with unpredictable and uncontrolled consequences - and therefore harmful to Russia. And not to understand this fact - and also to reduce this main topic of their activity to some conclusions on which one of them is similar or how many services were an agent - is not serious ...
If you are hinting that Torgamadze was "an FSB agent sent to provoke Udaltsov," then again, do not feel sorry for Udaltsov, because this "provocation" nevertheless revealed his internal readiness to work against Russia and take money for it from outside. Anyway, in short, Udaltsov is wrong in this situation, from which side you don't look at it.
And reference to Lenin’s biography has nothing to do with it, the historical situation is different. Under Lenin, the emperor was not an elected one, Lenin did not see any other ways of coming to power except the destruction of the country :) Yes, and he was only a man — that is, could have made mistakes in some tactical moments ...

[NAPOLEON]

did you forget that Lenin seized power when the tsar no longer ruled and by the way Lenin lost the election to the constituent assembly and then dispersed him

[Black]

Russia needs the opposition like air! Existing, strong, legitimate, supported by the people. And this will be the key to the fight against the foolishness of power, corruption, unfair laws, etc.
But she is not there - neither in parliament, nor outside, nor on the street. Clowns, sixes, puppet dolls, and traitors.
I think this is at hand for the authorities (I won’t be surprised that the bulk-daredevils and other riffraff is a GB project).
The real opposition can rally around crystal clear people on the basis of a patriotic attitude. I think such people can be SA officers.

[NAPOLEON]

the officers could not defend the Soviet Union and we are not Turkey where the army plays an independent role.

[Semyon Albertovich]

The Moscow political party, calling itself the opposition, does not enjoy authority in the country; so their fuss is interesting only to the pro-American media.

[crambol]

Hedgehog understands that the opposition in a normal state is needed. Change of priorities, change of stealing bureaucrats, etc. It is a healthy strong opposition that is able to become the head of Russia, and not a bunch of clowns, for whom

... it’s one thing to get money from Western curators and PR on TV, and it’s quite another to be responsible for your actions

[Krapovy32]

But I don’t understand how, after the video recording of the conversation with Torgomadze, Udaltsov did not hide from shame? Does a person have honor and conscience, or does he care what people think about him? I don’t understand how this has become the norm, they sell everything and themselves, including for the sake of this minute benefit.