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Mass media: Tu-95MS bomber “secretly” burned down in Ryazan

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The Russian Air Force lost one of its strategic bombers, the Tu-95MS, and the Ministry of Defense commission summed up the preliminary results of an investigation into the recent fire of the aircraft, which was officially submitted as “smoke”.


As it became known to Kommersant, the results of the investigation are disappointing: it burned out so that it does not make sense to restore it. At the same time, just about 300 million rubles was spent on its repair. Those responsible for what happened are not even indicated. No new bombers to replace the Air Force are not waiting.



The incident happened on February 26 at the Diaghilevo airdrome (Center for combat training and retraining of long-range flight personnel aviation, Ryazan). On the same day, the press service and information department of the Ministry of Defense (MO) of Russia quickly and briefly announced: “During the scheduled flights at the taxiing stage in the technical compartment of the Tu-95MS aircraft, smoke occurred. The fire extinguishing service promptly arrived at the scene, the smoke was eliminated. "" The fire was quickly extinguished, but in the end the Tu-95MS received significant damage "
It was also said that the crew was not injured.

As Kommersant found out, the circumstances of the incident with the Tu-95MS (airborne No. 21) were much more serious. According to the source of the publication in the military, at the executive start in preparation for the take-off and transfer of power to the onboard alternating current generators a self-shutdown of the turbogenerator installation occurred.

The crew commander reported on this to the head of flights at the command post (KP) of the airfield and notified him of his decision: do not take off. Permission for this was obtained, and the bomber began to taxi from the runway.

“At that moment, the assistant to the head of flights from KP had already seen the smoke of the plane in the fourth compartment,” a source said. - At the same time, information about critical malfunctions on board reached the crew using a speech informant, and in the cockpit of the flight engineer the light boards worked. The crew immediately reported this to the KP, de-energized the car and left it. ”

When the fire crews of the airfield and the Ryazan unit of the Ministry of Emergency Situations arrived at the scene, the flames of the bomber fuselage near the fourth compartment and the rear of the pressurized cabin arrived from under the skin of the fuselage of the bomber. The fire was quickly extinguished, but in the end, the TU-95MS suffered significant damage: the fire destroyed the jobs of the navigator, the flight radio operator and the flight engineer with their equipment.

On the same day, a commission of inquiry was established. According to her findings, malfunctions in the distribution panel of the aircraft’s power supply system led to the fire. According to the Kommersant source, two versions are considered as the main reasons for this.

The first is the occurrence of a circuit due to insulation damage due to overheating of the wires (this is confirmed by the nature of the damage detected, this has already happened on another Tu-95MS in the 1994 year). The second is the abnormal inclusion in the parallel operation of the onboard alternators, which, in turn, could be caused by operational damage to electrical equipment with significant operating time without repair.
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  1. Edward72
    Edward72 April 8 2013 07: 55
    13
    Figs with him with iron, the most important thing is that the crew is alive. But calls are increasingly appearing, no matter how much better they don't become better. Conclusion - we need to build new ones.
    1. Denis
      Denis April 8 2013 08: 00
      +4
      Quote: Edward72
      need to build new
      Alas, no new ones have been invented yet
      Tu-160 is much newer, but different
      1. Russian
        Russian April 8 2013 08: 14
        +1
        Therefore, work is already underway to create a PAK FA. Of course, they do not promise it soon, but the work is already underway, and it pleases, because a new strategic bomber is very necessary.
        And I did not understand one moment, these 300 million were paid and repaired, but how then could this happen, or did not have time to repair? But then it smells bad ...
        1. Trofimov174
          Trofimov174 April 8 2013 09: 10
          +2
          Quote: р_у_с_с_к_и_й
          Therefore, work is already underway to create a PAK FA

          Not PAK FA, but PAK YES and until the moment it takes off it will take 10 years, in 2014 they promise only to finish the design.
        2. mamba
          mamba April 8 2013 09: 37
          +3
          Quote: р_у_с_с_к_и_й
          Therefore, work is already underway to create a PAK FA. Of course, they do not promise it soon, but the work is already underway, and it pleases, because a new strategic bomber is very necessary.

          PAK FA is a promising front-line aviation complex. He is the T-50, I-21 - the fifth-generation Russian multi-role fighter, developed by a division of the United Aircraft Corporation - Sukhoi Design Bureau.
          PAK DA - a promising long-range aviation complex. To date, the plans of Moscow Region and the Tupolev company include the first flight in 2017-18 and the beginning of mass production around 2025. Of course, new bombers will be quite expensive, but they will not have to supplement the existing equipment, but eventually completely replace it. It is unlikely that even forty or fifty such aircraft will be enough to replace all Tu-95MS or Tu-22M3, which are currently the basis of Russian long-range aviation. The same need to replace old equipment poses another difficult task for designers. Tu-22M3 and Tu-95MS, although they appear to be long-range bombers, have different tactical niches. Therefore, in PAK YES it will be necessary to combine two very different aircraft.
    2. Romn
      Romn April 8 2013 08: 21
      0
      Conclusion - we need to build new ones.

      I completely agree, the aircraft may not be bad, but all the same, the development of the beginning of 1950. Pomoymu is morally outdated and in actual combat conditions is no longer suitable. But for now, there is a need to protect!))
    3. Vashestambid
      Vashestambid April 8 2013 12: 33
      -5
      In Ryazan, the Tu-95MS bomber “secretly” burned down


      Maybe they secretly decided to cook barbecue !! smile
    4. VAF
      VAF April 8 2013 12: 57
      +4
      Quote: Edward72
      Figs with him with iron, the most important thing is that the crew is alive.


      I completely agree with you +! Because if this happened already in the air (on take-off), then with the Tu-95MS from a low altitude, they simply would not have time to jump out! request

      An almost similar case was on the Tu-22M3 in Shaikovka in Degtyarev's crew ... the same smoke in those compartments (the stern found smoke from the technical compartment, which was just under the floor of the navigator's cockpit, the height was already 500 meters,) then an open flame appeared. complete refusal of ABSU and the commander "forcibly" "drove" everyone to ... "street"!

      The plane crashed in the city of Kirov on the square, in front of the factory entrance, on the border with the lake.
      Onboard there were 4 Fab-500TS bombs, the ammunition shell for the cannon was full, and 40 tons of fuel.

      The BC did not detonate when it fell ... otherwise it would be ... "absolutely ... not fun"! recourse
    5. svp67
      svp67 April 9 2013 07: 01
      0
      [quote] But calls are increasingly appearing, no matter how modernizing they become, better [[/ quote] quote] [/ quote]


      Yes, it seems that the fact of the matter is that this board did not undergo any modernization for a long time, which follows from the text [quote] could be caused by operational damage to electrical equipment with significant operating time without repair. [/ Quote]
  2. Denis
    Denis April 8 2013 07: 56
    +3
    It's a pity!
    But any technique fails from time to time
    The hammer also breaks, but the plane will be more complicated
    As Kommersant found out, the circumstances of the incident with the Tu-95MS (aircraft number 21) were much more serious
    But how did they succeed and are the jackals of the pen busy with their business?
    1. Suhov
      Suhov April 8 2013 11: 49
      +3
      Quote: Denis
      The hammer also breaks

      In Russia, thank God, fools a hundred years in stock ...

      Identify subjects with a "talent" to accidentally break a hammer, scrap iron or ball ...
      and send them to permanent residence to a potential enemy.

      Serving the Motherland, depending on the talents of the subject, can take various forms ...
      wassat
    2. VAF
      VAF April 8 2013 12: 42
      +3
      Quote: Denis
      But how did they succeed and are the jackals of the pen busy with their business?


      The fact that .. ostensibly found out these, how you stand out .. "jackals of the feather" is the delirium of the blue mare and has nothing to do with the real cause of the fire! +! soldier

      I tried to attach a photo of side 21 to the fire .. (shot in February in Diaghilevo) nothing comes of it!

      Dear admins, do not clarify the situation .. now that all comments will be only in text form and without photo facts ???
      1. leon-iv
        leon-iv April 8 2013 13: 02
        +2
        Dear admins, do not clarify the situation .. now that all comments will be only in text form and without photo facts ???

        The site engine will be finished.
        with the real cause of the fire has nothing to do!

        What do you think, will the TEZh restore or will it be transferred to the Taganrog?
        1. VAF
          VAF April 8 2013 13: 08
          +2
          Quote: leon-iv
          The site engine will be finished.


          Hello Ivanovtsy drinks Well then .. wait, sir, and then .. so many interesting movie photos that ....: wassat

          Quote: leon-iv
          Will TEC restore or will it be transferred to Taganrog?


          A decision has already been made to write off, because You can restore it only in the conditions of the plant (it costs incredibly expensive) and you still need to get to it (to the plant) .. somehow you can get there, but in Taganrog it’s already ... there’s no nichrome!
          1. leon-iv
            leon-iv April 8 2013 13: 11
            +2
            A decision has been made to write off

            damn abusive adnaka
            Taganrog already on it ... no nichrome!

            By the way, on Taganrog 2 more sides of the A-50 are going there with a known purpose. Perhaps one remotoriziruyut on PS-90
            1. VAF
              VAF April 8 2013 13: 20
              +1
              Quote: leon-iv
              By the way, on Taganrog 2 more sides of the A-50 are going there with a known purpose. Perhaps one remotoriziruyut on PS-90


              Quite recently I was there on ... "business" ... all this is just ... words, and our desires. "
              In the plans, in fact, there are no PSs in the "U" version, only the D-30KP-2, unfortunately!
        2. VAF
          VAF April 8 2013 18: 12
          0
          Quote: leon-iv
          The site engine will be finished.


          Well .. so far .. they are "finishing" the method itself, though they hang with distortion on the tape, but when you "click" on it (in the photo), it opens quite normally, without any flaws!
          That's how it was ... in mid-February 2013 ... crying

          but here in the article ... a photo of Kama with "YAD"! soldier

      2. queen
        queen April 8 2013 13: 20
        +2
        Quote: vaf
        nothing comes out!

        Greetings to Sergey. I also wanted to offer 40 liter oxygen cylinders for the F-22. what
        1. VAF
          VAF April 8 2013 13: 23
          +2
          Quote: regin
          I also wanted to offer 40L oxygen tanks for the F-22. But no how


          Hello Volodya! So then Khryapa in general .. will not fly, because. weight will immediately increase, and our oxygen .. is detrimental to their delicate health!
          1. queen
            queen April 8 2013 13: 29
            +2
            So all the best for "friends" with the smell of forest cones))) and with the Tu-95 we will learn the news faster from you))) thank you very much for this. I am tormented by vague doubts that something dark with him ... somehow everything is beautiful came out.
            1. VAF
              VAF April 8 2013 14: 39
              +4
              Quote: regin
              I am tormented by vague doubts that something dark with him ... somehow everything turned out beautifully.


              Yes, no, Volodya. It's all just ... prosaic! Short circuit in the network is almost a common thing. but the actions of the crew .. yes and the Support Group .. this is something ... no words .. one MAT!
              After all, they had to immediately switch to emergency power and cut off all consumers at once, well, then the firefighters' affairs!
              And then ... they reported, drove and .. "popped" to the parking lot, while launching the APU, switched to power from it ... in general .... I go nuts dear edition!
          2. queen
            queen April 8 2013 13: 32
            +2
            Quote: vaf
            Yes, and our oxygen .. harmful

            Question Sergey, do the Amers drive their fuel at MAX? They have eternal distrust.
            1. VAF
              VAF April 8 2013 14: 54
              +2
              Quote: regin
              Amers drive their fuel at MAX? They have eternal distrust.


              No, the fuel there is all ours, or rather "theirs" ATFW, but ours is from Gazpromneft-Aero.
              They now have everything you need: both IATA certificates and TK certified according to "ihnim2 standards" with double purification and a filtration system, a double pressure control system, the layout allows refueling aircraft with top-mounted onboard fueling fittings, etc., etc.
              There is a conclusion from Shell Aviation.
  3. Boot under the carpet
    Boot under the carpet April 8 2013 08: 03
    +1
    Restore to the museum :) Old man already)
    1. viruskvartirus
      viruskvartirus April 8 2013 09: 42
      0
      It’s interesting to me by what criterion do you determine the age of an airplane? A plane carrying cruise missiles and capable of burning 6 cities burned down. Still funny?
  4. awg75
    awg75 April 8 2013 08: 05
    +3
    byad however ....
  5. zambo
    zambo April 8 2013 08: 05
    +1
    "... the results of the investigation are disappointing: it burned down so that it makes no sense to restore it. At the same time, about 300 million rubles have just been spent on its repair. Those responsible for the incident have not yet been identified. No new bombers are expected to replace the Air Force.

    These three sentences indicate the whole mess that is still going on in the Moscow region after the "stool" ...

    ... maybe this is an attempt to "bury" those same 300 million rubles spent on aircraft repairs? Let's hope that the culprit will be found.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov April 8 2013 08: 15
      +8
      Quote: zamboy

      ... maybe this is an attempt to "bury" those same 300 million rubles spent on aircraft repairs?

      This is a more reliable version, evidence destroyed, you can invite auditors from the military prosecutor's office hi
      1. queen
        queen April 8 2013 13: 24
        0
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        This is a more reliable version.

        The same thoughts. Here it is interesting who participated in this sabotage.
  6. Vitali-46
    Vitali-46 April 8 2013 08: 07
    0
    Quote: Denis
    It's a pity!
    But any technique fails from time to time
    The hammer also breaks, but the plane will be more complicated
    As Kommersant found out, the circumstances of the incident with the Tu-95MS (aircraft number 21) were much more serious
    But how did they succeed and are the jackals of the pen busy with their business?

    And this komersant constantly knows everything! It’s just not known where the infa comes from ??
    1. Mcsim
      Mcsim April 8 2013 12: 28
      0
      Yesterday, forum users posted pictures here http://topwar.ru/26464-rossiyskie-bombardirovschiki-imitirovali-nanesenie-udara-
      po-obektam-pro-ssha-.html # comment-id-1053621
  7. d1m1drol
    d1m1drol April 8 2013 08: 13
    0
    Poor bear ... what can I say. Well, this is a technique, this happens to her, and not only to the Russian one. The main thing is people are alive. There yesterday Ford burned out under the window. Just burned out ... from under the hood blazed. So no one canceled the short circuit. The following is interesting: is there really no fire extinguishing system in Tushki ?!
    1. VAF
      VAF April 8 2013 12: 34
      +1
      Quote: d1m1drol
      The following is interesting: is there really no fire extinguishing system in Tushki ?!


      Of course there are as many as two lines, but not in all systems, and even more so ... in the technical compartment!
  8. igor36
    igor36 April 8 2013 08: 13
    0
    Quote: Denis
    But how did they succeed and are the jackals of the pen busy with their business?

    The media is one of the branches of government and a way of exercising public control. But that's not the point. Good money was spent on this car. It is necessary to understand whether this modernization is carried out correctly, because it will also be carried out with other aircraft.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov April 8 2013 08: 17
      +2
      Quote: igor36
      You need to understand whether this modernization is done correctly,

      Everything has already burned down, it will be difficult to understand where 300 million have gone.
  9. Romn
    Romn April 8 2013 08: 25
    0
    The plane, of course, is also a pity. But it is correctly said that we will build new cars, the main crew is intact, and of course I would like to see non-modernized development aircraft of the beginning of 1950, although not with poor overall performance. And something radically new, sort of 5 generation, so that no one had smile
  10. Dwarfik
    Dwarfik April 8 2013 08: 27
    +5
    Was there any modernization at all?
    1. MrFYGY
      MrFYGY April 8 2013 09: 03
      0
      Allocate 300 million rubles for repairs
      "Accidentally" the plane burns down, "after" investing money
      Etc.
      1. mamba
        mamba April 8 2013 09: 50
        +2
        Quote: MrFYGY
        The plane "accidentally" burns out

        Every year artillery depots explode "by accident" in our country, and entire echelons of ammunition are traditionally written off. There were times when ships burned, exploded and sank. Now it’s the turn of the planes, and of course they have just been repaired. Armored vehicles have not yet "accidentally" exploded. Apparently the "grandmother" is not the same. recourse
  11. Fost325
    Fost325 April 8 2013 08: 58
    0
    Modernization is a good thing, but only if carried out by new, high-quality certified parts and equipment. And how can we use spare parts from the old decommissioned equipment, or Chinese counterfeit, in order to "savings" There are a lot of money, examples, especially in the aircraft industry. Let's look at the verdict of the commission, most likely - another case of theft of denyuzhek.
    1. mamba
      mamba April 8 2013 10: 35
      +1
      Respected institutes carrying out modernization must strictly exercise copyright control. Otherwise, the craftsmen at the enterprise carrying out the modernization will “save money” that the planes will burn out the first time the onboard power is turned on. It is enough to leave the old wiring with dry and cracked insulation and connect new, more energy-intensive equipment to it. And if you also install safety switches made in China, then everything is possible! am
      1. VAF
        VAF April 8 2013 13: 04
        +2
        Quote: mamba
        modernizing


        There was no modernization, but there was a planned CWR!
        Quote: mamba
        It is enough to leave the old wiring with dried and cracked insulation and connect new, more energy-intensive equipment to it.


        Quote: mamba
        It is enough to leave the old wiring with dried and cracked insulation and connect new, more energy-intensive equipment to it.


        Well, to the "Chinese" gas stations, AZP and AZR, thank God, they have not yet reached, but ... with a short circuit, their shutdown no longer saves!

        What is most interesting .. you "got exactly to the point", because this is how everything is done. Well, or in extreme cases (occasionally) they stretch out new harnesses!

        Therefore, the weight of the aircraft increases after each CWR, and therefore the compulsory weighing procedure takes place .with the obligatory entry in the airplane form!


        Quote: mamba
        And if you still put the safety switches made in China
  12. Lakkuchu
    Lakkuchu April 8 2013 09: 29
    +1
    I'm certainly not special, but what 300 lyamas were spent on, can anyone explain? Was it covered with gilding? He himself does not look at such an amount.
    1. mamba
      mamba April 8 2013 10: 23
      +2
      Quote: Lakkuchu
      what 300 lyam were spent on, can anyone explain? Was it covered with gilding? He himself does not look at such an amount.

      The Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation in 2013 begins the modernization of the Tu-95MS6 and Tu-95MS16 to the version of Tu-95MSM. Updated aircraft will last until 2020-2025. The new version will be equipped with an improved avionics and high-precision strategic cruise missiles of the new generation, capable of carrying both nuclear and conventional warheads and hit small and area targets at ranges up to 5000 km, as well as tactical missiles.
      During the modernization program, only electronic equipment will be replaced with the Tu-95MS, while the glider and engines will not be modified. As expected, a new sighting and navigation system will be installed on the bombers, which will allow the use of new strategic cruise missiles X-101. In addition, a Tu-95MS navigation system based on GLONASS will be installed.
      Out of almost a hundred Tu-95MS, dozens will be modernized, and the rest will be decommissioned. The Moscow Institute of Electromechanics and Automation and the Berg Central Research Radio Engineering Institute will participate in the bombers upgrade program.
      The Tu-95MSM is likely to last longer than the planned ten years, since the PAK DA is only at the initial stages of development and it will take 20-25 years to create and test the aircraft. At the same time, having entered service, PAK DA will not be able to immediately replace all Tu-95MSM; this process will only be completed in five to seven years.
      1. Nayhas
        Nayhas April 8 2013 11: 07
        +1
        Judging by the photo of the burnt cab, no significant changes in the avionics are noticeable, all the same analog junk ...
        1. Wedmak
          Wedmak April 8 2013 11: 15
          +2
          And you, as a specialist in avionics, thought to see a glass cabin and joysticks?
    2. VAF
      VAF April 8 2013 15: 25
      0
      Quote: Lakkuchu
      I'm certainly not special, but what 300 lyamas were spent on, can anyone explain?


      Absolutely normal price for a CWR of such a machine! For example, the CWR with "modernization" in the "SM" version (for the Su-25) costs 137 Lyamas.
      Well, compare the su-25 and tu-95MS .. as they say .. feel the difference .. when the size .. it turns out it matters .. +! wink
  13. Averias
    Averias April 8 2013 09: 37
    +1
    Smoke "and" fire "are different things. And judging by the photos that I saw here yesterday, this is a fire. And - there is no smoke without fire. A number of questions arise: Why lie (underestimate, hide) the damage from what happened. Say, citizens, do not worry, everything is fine, not much has raised, it's okay, the main thing is no victims. And I follow the logic, the second question is that it’s strange everything, we spent 300 million, and then lost in the "smoke". It looks like someone made money again by purchasing cheap spare parts. Although of course it could have done it, the plane is far from new. Just as practice shows, nothing happens in our country just like that, especially where large sums are involved.
    1. VAF
      VAF April 8 2013 13: 16
      +2
      Quote: Averias
      Smoke and fire are different things.


      The term "smoke" emerged from the radio exchange - the usual report of any crew member who discovered this moment to the commander of the ship, well, the one on the tower - either - smoke in the cockpit or ... smoke ".
      In practice, a fire always occurs after smoke, unless, of course, there is a hit in the plane (bullet, projectile or rocket).
      There is a fire alarm in Tech. compartment, but the sensors are triggered only at a certain Temperature or on an open flame, and with a short circuit, an open flame is not always, because. the wiring is fully insulated or booked, that's it .. "shakes" quietly!
      1. queen
        queen April 8 2013 13: 41
        +2
        Quote: vaf
        and with short-circuit open flame is not always

        And the fuses do not work at the same time?
        1. VAF
          VAF April 8 2013 15: 01
          +1
          Quote: regin
          And the fuses do not work at the same time?


          I mean do not burn out in the distribution box? Yes. As a rule. But this does not save from the fire.
          after all, no matter how airtight it was, all the materials are there anyway. which flare up like ... paper, all the more so everywhere is an SLE, KO, etc.
          Those. there is something to burn!
  14. as3wresdf
    as3wresdf April 8 2013 09: 59
    -3
    The base of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of all citizens of the Russian Federation on this site twitlink.ws/baza and the main thing was done as if to search for lost relatives, but here is all the information about each of us: correspondence with friends, addresses, phones, place of work, and the worst thing is even mine nudity photo (though I do not know from where ...). In general, I was very scared - but there is such a function as "hide data" of course I used it and I advise everyone not to hesitate, you never know
  15. 400
    400 April 8 2013 10: 22
    +3
    Probably someone was brewed and set fire to hide traces
  16. Ruslan_F38
    Ruslan_F38 April 8 2013 11: 04
    0
    Most of all, who will answer for this, because as I understand it, 300 million was spent? And do we really have no reserve for such cases? When Shoigu already happened or even with Serdyuk?
    1. vilenich
      vilenich April 8 2013 12: 02
      0
      Quote: Ruslan_F38
      Most of all, who will answer for this, because as I understand it, 300 million was spent?

      So, after all, everything was presented as "smoke", not fire! It is a well-known practice in the army to conceal such emergency situations. And there, over time, it may be overwritten, hesitated!
      I was still a platoon commander, when a company commander was blown off a cannon on a tank during a regimental tactical exercise, and after graduating from a vocational school, the commander of the district was building a regiment on equipment. Naturally, if I saw a tank with a torn off gun, then the conversation about a positive assessment would not come. And so com. the company hid the tank in the woods, in the general formation everything is in openwork, the rating is "good". Well, and then they sorted everything out together ...
  17. Nayhas
    Nayhas April 8 2013 11: 21
    +5
    "In the course of the modernization program, only the radio-electronic equipment will be replaced on the Tu-95MS, while the airframe and engines will not undergo modifications. As expected, a new sighting and navigation system will be installed on the bombers, which will allow the use of the new strategic cruise missiles Kh-101 In addition, a navigation system based on GLONASS will be installed on the Tu-95MS. "
    We look at the photo, on it is the place of the navigator and operators, i.e. exactly where the "modern equipment" should have been installed, where are the multifunctional LCD displays? If a modern PNK is installed, then anyway, all information about the air situation, route, navigation information should be displayed on the LCD indicator, where is the pancake what you spent 300 million rubles on !?
    1. dmitreach
      dmitreach April 8 2013 12: 46
      +1
      Nayhas, judging by the photo, you can’t hide the ends in water.
      I thought there were only landing gears, but the blades remained ...
      1. VAF
        VAF April 8 2013 18: 30
        +1
        Quote: dmitreach
        I thought there were only landing gears, but the blades remained ..


        No ... outwardly it is almost intact, so not a lot of skin was burnt, well, and a few ... extra "holes" on top of the fuselage, but inside ... the sadness is complete ... crying

    2. VAF
      VAF April 8 2013 18: 26
      0
      Quote: Nayhas
      During the modernization program on the Tu-95MS


      Dear, so this is about future modernization under the version of "MSM" they write, ie. for X-101 missiles, and this is the standard Tu-95MS6 and after the CWR .. there was no modernization .. provided for! request

      1. Nayhas
        Nayhas April 9 2013 16: 41
        0
        In the sense of major refurbishment? Is it 300 million rubles for it? Not too much? Or did they take a completely killed Tu-95MS with dead engines and looted equipment and restore it to a "working" state?
  18. Strashila
    Strashila April 8 2013 11: 40
    +1
    That's why it burned down ... that only from the repair ... they got the loot ... the fire destroyed all the shoals of the "repair".
  19. Sochi
    Sochi April 8 2013 13: 04
    +1
    Sorry for the car ... Beautiful terribly powerful, I remember how my parents flew such.
    1. VAF
      VAF April 8 2013 18: 41
      +1
      Quote: Sochi
      Beautiful terribly powerful, I remember how my parents flew such.


      +! drinks

  20. Denis
    Denis April 8 2013 15: 27
    0
    Quote: igor36
    The media is one of the branches of government
    That's just the question of whose authority?
    I really want you to be sincerely mistaken, and not to be a media torle. Are these corrupt or unfortunate experts spoiled and poured mud?
    One word is the oldest profession
  21. razved
    razved April 9 2013 23: 21
    0
    I wonder where such a source come from ...
    1. Denis
      Denis April 10 2013 01: 11
      +1
      Quote: razved
      where did the comedian have such sources ...
      Sources of commercial, you never know
      And they could have lied, there have been cases. And with a lie successfully guess