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7 April - Memorial Day for the dead submariners

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The profession of a submariner is one of the most dangerous, difficult and responsible military professions. Submariners are at risk of every minute, dying both in wartime and in peacetime. For more than a century history Russian underwater fleet several dozen submarine accidents occurredthat caused casualties among the personnel.


7 April - Memorial Day for the dead submariners


The dead submariners are remembered in Russia every year on April 7. April 7 Day was chosen as a memorable date in memory of the tragic death of the K-278 Northern Fleet Komsomolets 7 April 1989 submarine of the year. On this day 24 a year ago, the Komsomolets submarine, equipped with the latest technology and many years ahead of its time, sank in the waters of the Norwegian Sea. On the way to the base in a submerged position aboard the "Komsomolets" there was a fire with the subsequent depressurization of compressed air systems. After the ascent of the submarine, the crew began a selfless struggle for the survival of the vessel, which lasted for 6 hours, as a result the reactor was stopped, a nuclear disaster in the Atlantic Ocean was prevented. However, the submarine itself could not be rescued - its solid hull was completely depressurized, the stern compartments were completely flooded, too much fresh water entered the boat, and the Komsomolets went down.

The disaster of Komsomolets claimed the lives of 42 submariners, including the ship's commander Yevgeny Vanin, all were posthumously awarded the Order of the Red Banner, and a memorial plaque with the names of the dead sailors was installed at the St. Nicholas Naval Cathedral in St. Petersburg.

No less dramatic was the death of the nuclear submarine "Kursk". This catastrophe was perhaps the most tragic event in the modern history of the Russian Navy. 12 August 2000 of the year during the exercises of the Northern Fleet in the Barents Sea sank the nuclear submarine cruiser Kursk, becoming a mass grave for all 118 members of its crew.

Today, in memory of the deceased submariners, selflessly fulfilling their duty to the Motherland, after raising the flags on ships and vessels of the entire Russian Navy, a minute of silence passes. According to tradition, in every part of scuba diving and higher educational institutions that train naval officers, events are held dedicated to the memory of submarine heroes who have been martyred aboard their ships.
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  1. Deniska999
    Deniska999 April 7 2013 09: 14 New
    25
    Eternal memory to them!
    1. Papakiko
      Papakiko April 7 2013 11: 31 New
      13

      On forever in memory and hearts.
  2. zeksus
    zeksus April 7 2013 09: 16 New
    16
    Kingdom of heaven to the lost !!
  3. svp67
    svp67 April 7 2013 09: 17 New
    +9
    Thank you guys! And forgive us for everything ...
    And is it not time for the ROC to think about reckoning them as "great martyrs"? I think they deserve it.
    1. shpuntik
      shpuntik April 8 2013 02: 07 New
      +2
      Excuse me, to the great martyrs? You, in my opinion, do not quite understand the system for making such decisions. Firstly: when a person consciously accepts death for Christ, when he is forced to renounce his faith, and when a person accepts death for his relatives, relatives, compatriots, for his homeland, this is the difference. Of course the gospel says:
      Mk.8: 35 For whoever wants to save his soul, he will lose it, and whoever lose his soul for Me and the Gospel, he will save it.
      Mk.8: 36 For what good is a man if he gains the whole world, and damages his soul?
      Mk.8: 37 Or what redemption will a man give for his soul?
      Mk.8: 38 For whoever is ashamed of Me and My words in this generation, adulterous and sinful, the Son of Man will also be ashamed when he comes in the glory of His Father with holy Angels. The priests therefore pray purely for the military, that according to their destiny, a man should serve his whole life: either God, or family, or the Fatherland, it is good when it is combined :-) Accordingly, they serve prayers without knowing what is in the mass grave may not be baptized , other beliefs. Moreover, in the church you will receive a note only with the baptized, the church does not pray for the unbaptized. Well, the second point: Of the 140 thousand clergymen in 1917, by the time of the "Khrushchev" 2 thousand reached, of which high dignity was counted on the fingers. And who plagued them, if not Komsomol members? Who blew up churches, demolished crosses, if not them?! Usually, as you call a ship, he goes. And, on April 7, the Annunciation of the Blessed Virgin Mary is celebrated, one of the twelve great feasts. Therefore, I would not blame the Russian Orthodox Church for this. As for those who died in the performance of military duty, I am sure that their souls will rest in the kingdom of God, the Lord has many monasteries. Eternal memory to them.
  4. Garrin
    Garrin April 7 2013 09: 22 New
    +1

    ETERNAL MEMORY OF ALL GUYS.
  5. Garrin
    Garrin April 7 2013 09: 27 New
    17

    KILLING, LORD OF THE SOUL OF OUR SLAVES. ETERNAL MEMORY OF ALL THE GUYS.
  6. BARKAS
    BARKAS April 7 2013 09: 29 New
    14

    ETERNAL MEMORY OF HEROES OF SUBWELLERS.
  7. George
    George April 7 2013 09: 33 New
    +9
    Eternal memory to all those who died. [Media = http: // http: //klin-demianovo.ru/http: /klin-demianovo.ru/novosti/
    32457 / 7-aprelya-den-pamyati-pogibshih-podvodnikov /]
  8. Petrovich-2
    Petrovich-2 April 7 2013 09: 38 New
    13
    Glory to the submariner heroes!
    Eternal memory to them!
    But their heroism is an example for the younger generation how to fulfill their duty.
    1. Misantrop
      Misantrop April 7 2013 12: 09 New
      +8
      We say goodbye in Kronstadt
      Unstable, and then
      The gray boat will rush to the raid
      Cracking ripples with a screw.

      Here are the clouds with an oblique shadow
      The moon twisted slightly
      And got lost in the distance
      Your outstretched hand.

      Again making noise over the sea flag,
      And again, and stern and stingy,
      Baltic wind dries moisture
      Your cold lips.

      Curves go apart
      We say goodbye to the country;
      The steering gears are watching,
      And you grieve for me.

      ... and if the foam hugs
      We will be overwhelmed in class
      And you're in an envelope for printing
      Get the news about us, -

      Do not cry, we lived a bold life,
      They knew how to die bravely, -
      You on white paper
      You can read about it.

      Survive the sudden cold
      Half a year do not rush to marry,
      And I will stay forever young
      There, in the recesses of your soul.

      And if a son is born soon,
      He has one path and purpose,
      He has one road - the sea,
      My grave and font.

      A. Lebedev (Alexei Lebedev died in a submarine in the Gulf of Finland in 1941.)
      1. lelikas
        lelikas April 7 2013 21: 59 New
        +2
        In memory of "Komsomolets"

        Night fell over the bay.
        The polar city slept peacefully.
        April wind, a little joking
        Sailors poured snow at the gate.
        All the people were sleeping as always
        On warm, gentle beds
        No one thought of trouble
        No one thought about snowstorms.

        And in the morning TASS message
        Suddenly flew by a bloody storm
        It came down like a typhoon
        And even the sky became gloomy
        But what happened, why
        The sea cries with a tear of blood
        And how Bear brought us
        Another big grief? ..

        The hike was coming to an end
        And the boat returned to base
        See you at home and with family
        Some seven hundred miles left.
        Suddenly, the connection with the seventh
        Only the watchman remained there.
        Then they will tell us about him:
        "He fought heroically with fire ..."

        He suddenly saw in a dream
        How the cable sparkled terribly
        The blow fell right in the chest
        And as a knocked-down man fell.
        He did not crawl quite a bit
        Just a little to the screen
        And at home thunder will suddenly strike
        And for some reason mom will cry out ...

        Burning seventh, sixth on fire
        Burning fifth and fourth
        And sailors, as in war,
        Friends upstairs - dead
        And aviators rafts
        Thrown by all somewhere
        And died in ice water
        Innocent guys ...

        They told us the designer
        What is durable titanium case
        But why then fire
        Destroyed everything, very strange.
        That constructor was calm
        After all, the case can be made the same
        But calm someone's mother
        He will never be able to ...

        And the mother goes to Severomorsk
        Then, to say goodbye to my son
        And hundreds of old mothers
        Tears will pour
        So why are you country
        Can't make the sea
        Did not take away sons
        Didn’t bring so much grief? ..

        Night fell over the bay.
        The polar city is sleeping peacefully.
        April wind, a little joking
        All the same, snow is falling behind the gate.
        You people sleep as always
        On warm, gentle beds
        No need to think about trouble
        No need to remember snowstorms ...
        K. Druzhin
  9. Yuri11076
    Yuri11076 April 7 2013 09: 49 New
    10
    Eternal memory to the guys !!! They are real heroes !!!
  10. Yuri11076
    Yuri11076 April 7 2013 09: 53 New
    +6
    Quote: svp67
    Thank you guys! And forgive us for everything ...
    And is it not time for the ROC to think about reckoning them as "great martyrs"? I think they deserve it.

    The Russian Orthodox Church is now unfortunately preoccupied with the construction of mini palaces and the purchase of expensive cars, they are not up to it now ...
  11. botur
    botur April 7 2013 09: 59 New
    11
    Your feat will not be forgotten, ETERNAL MEMORY AND A LOW BOW TO HEROES.
  12. sergo0000
    sergo0000 April 7 2013 10: 07 New
    15


    writing

    Well, that’s it: the course is laid, and the set is on board,
    Again, the ocean called us on a hike.
    Again we bear one fate, again one for all,
    Again in the CPU our koperanga stood up.

    But, my friend, how are you right that all my life I envied me.
    A wave breaks into the wheelhouse and the wind rips up the guis.
    And if it weren’t for the heat, I would invent a boat again,
    If luck smiles at us, I'll be back.

    As well, there is a rumor, in the submarine sailors -
    They give wine and give chocolate.
    And I’ll give a breath of air for the whole world now,
    But near the bottom, and the clouds are not here.

    But, my friend, how are you right: I didn’t live right all the time,
    And if water breaks into our compartment,
    In order to save friends, we will kill ourselves tightly,
    This is known to all who have taken the oath to the depths.

    We remember those who did not come, who did not hug the children,
    Their wives eyelids do not cry out eyes.
    The snow that was falling when the Varangian flew was grayed
    Above the icy water, you cannot forget.

    But, my friend, how are you right that you have envied me all my life,
    Even in death, we brother feel shoulder.
    And if it weren’t for the heat, I would invent a boat again ...
    Be well, old man! I embrace it hotly.

    And if it weren’t for the heat, I would invent a boat again ...
    Be well, old man! I embrace it hotly.
    I'm leaving, old man! I embrace it hotly.

    A. Rosenbaum

    Eternal memory to heroes !!!
  13. avt
    avt April 7 2013 10: 20 New
    +1
    Everlasting memory ! Heavy duty hi It’s the same as living in a clockwork.
  14. avt
    avt April 7 2013 10: 22 New
    +9
    Everlasting memory! Heavy duty hi It’s like living in a clockwork.
  15. Seaman
    Seaman April 7 2013 10: 29 New
    10
    Eternal memory to the guys !!! Thanks you!!! Kingdom of heaven to you !!! "
  16. Narkom
    Narkom April 7 2013 10: 30 New
    +8
    Everlasting memory...
  17. WWW.budanov
    WWW.budanov April 7 2013 10: 42 New
    +8
    Let there be storm and bad weather
    Let the waves furiously throw the ships
    We are not afraid of the fierce weather -
    At the bottom of the sea the hosts are only us!
    ............................
    Bury me
    In the heart of the fire
    Let go of the ashes
    Find the way
    From the sad places
    But Kursk is a heavy cross!

    (old teacher. Mor. engineer.)
  18. Ar4ii
    Ar4ii April 7 2013 11: 02 New
    +3
    GLORY TO THE HEROES!
  19. Prapor Afonya
    Prapor Afonya April 7 2013 11: 02 New
    +4
    Eternal memory to Heroes submariners!
  20. Boa kaa
    Boa kaa April 7 2013 11: 04 New
    11
    Knights submariners! Take the lead!
    Let us lift, without clinking glasses, for men ... who have left us, but not from our hearts. For us, they will forever remain young and beautiful, as they were in this life! They are worthy, like their grandfathers, people's memory! The sea has become the last cradle for the children, and the crying of the seagulls over the waves is our requiem for the dead. EVERLASTING MEMORY !
  21. Alekseir162
    Alekseir162 April 7 2013 11: 11 New
    +4
    Quote: svp67
    And is it not time for the ROC to think about reckoning them as "great martyrs"?

    In the kingdom of heaven, they are already glorified, because they gave their life for the MOTHERLAND. As for worship in the earthly church, this is not the main thing. And then in the church, for each service, the soldiers of their souls commemorate those who laid down for the Fatherland.
  22. Prosto vovochka
    Prosto vovochka April 7 2013 11: 18 New
    +5
    Being a fighter in a past life, he always considered two professions heroic. Miners and submariners. Let them remember the dead today. I wish you good luck alive.
  23. Smirnov Vadim
    Smirnov Vadim April 7 2013 11: 27 New
    0
    [media = http: //video.yandex.ru/users/cpls/view/59/]


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  24. Asgard
    Asgard April 7 2013 11: 29 New
    +8
    Eternal memory to sailors and foremen, submarine officers. It has its own specifics. The life of the entire crew often depends on the actions of one ...
    K-141 “Kursk” - Nuclear Submarine Rocket-Bearing, project 949A “Antei”, was put into operation on December 30, 1994. From 1995 to 2000 - as part of the Northern Fleet of Russia, the base station Vidyaevo.
    He was attacked and sank in the Barents Sea, 175 km from Severomorsk (69 ° 40′00 ″ N 37 ° 35′00 ″ E) at a depth of 108 meters as a result of the disaster that occurred on August 12, 2000. All 118 crew members on board were killed. In terms of the number of deaths, the accident became the second in the post-war history of the Russian submarine fleet, after the explosion of ammunition on the B-37. (641 projects))
    Moreover, the sailors died within a week. The fleet commander POPOV ordered the withdrawal of the security ships so as not to hear the morse code in the hydrophones, which actually drowned the crew - but then the SENATOR was in the SECURITY commission .....
    I live 400 km from the scene of the tragedy, I often visit Murmansk, I have many friends among sailors, I have my own scuba gear, I dive, my record is 60 meters in the White Sea ......
    ! 108 meters - this is a scuba diving depth for divers. You can get people by giving them oxygen devices, surfacing according to the emergency schedule, put them in the caisson chamber and stay alive. The ship was divided into 10 compartments. A week was needed to ensure that everyone was drowned, so that the remaining air was unsuitable for breathing. How the Wives of the submariners fought, how they shouted - they are drowned !!! (Wives and Children felt their dying husbands and fathers) The submariners were pounding Morse code on the hull .... But now the command stole ships ???

    Peace be upon their souls restless. They say passing ships in that place. Excitement begins in the souls of the crew .... This is beyond words .....
    Forgive Us Sailors .......
    1. baltika-18
      baltika-18 April 7 2013 13: 02 New
      +7
      Quote: Asgard
      How Wives of submariners fought, how they shouted - they are drowned

      I also believe, Asgard, that they were drowned.
      Though not all, but probably it was possible to save.
    2. starpom
      starpom April 7 2013 14: 02 New
      +3
      Dear Askard, do not PR on such a day
      Quote: Asgard
      my record is 60 meters in the White Sea

      Kindly, tell me, what is your scuba gear and what mixture do you work on?
      Quote: Asgard
      put into the caisson chamber

      If I plunged, I would simply call it a pressure chamber
      1. Asgard
        Asgard April 7 2013 14: 20 New
        +2
        What kind of childhood - what kind of PR ??? just showing what's in the subject .... (to you (-) for ugliness) and an apology to you in PM ...
        By the way, I also wrote about breathing mixtures, with a high oxygen content (for uncompressed ascent ... (read carefully, there are answers to all your questions))
        about the pressure chamber it’s generally funny .... I won’t even comment ...
        and I have a friend (was not) Captain- Lieutenant Andrei Vasilyev (electronic engineer)) his s.uk.i. just drowned in the "Kursk" .....
        I wanted to write in a personal, but changed my mind-let the people find out the name of another REAL Hero ....
        bright memory of the dead ..... Andryukha We will remember you today.
    3. Chamber No. 6
      Chamber No. 6 April 7 2013 22: 20 New
      +1
      Quote: Asgard
      I live 400 km from the scene of the tragedy

      This is the north of Karelia ...
      "Besovets" from me 12 km
      The Besovets airdrome is near Petrozavodsk.
      So where, after all, is it located, this beautiful and mysterious city of the elite - Asgard?
      1. Asgard
        Asgard April 7 2013 22: 27 New
        +1
        I live in Loukhi Loukhsky district of the Republic of Kazakhstan, Petkevich, everyone knows me there ...
        I am on a business trip in Petrozavodsk, 12 km from Besovets airport. By the way, yesterday it flew there from Moscow ... The airfield is used by both the military and civilian airports .....

        For the information of the members of the forum))) and today we’ve drunk cognac and kind))) I put you + for curiosity))) silly you are our patient of the House No. 6)))
        P \ S AND WHAT GOOD FELLOWS LEAD STATISTICS .... Well done, but I haven’t tasted it once, although I worked as an analyst ... Hennessy makes the brain brainstorming ...
        1. Chamber No. 6
          Chamber No. 6 April 8 2013 06: 23 New
          +1
          Quote: Asgard
          drink brandy

          Quote: Asgard
          Hennessy makes complacency Brain ...

          Well, that’s another matter! Now everything is clear. Thank you for the clarification!
    4. Alexey K.
      Alexey K. April 7 2013 22: 25 New
      0
      [/ Moreover, the sailors died within a week]

      Dear Asgard, where does this information come from?

      [Fleet commander POPOV ordered the withdrawal of the guard ships so as not to hear the morse code in the hydrophones, which the crew actually drowned - but then the SENATOR was in the SECURITY commission ...]

      FULL nonsense - this is probably from the case of OBS - one grandmother said - nonsense without evidence and facts - a lie

      [A week was needed to ensure that everyone was drowned — so that the remaining air was unsuitable for breathing. ]

      HEATING SPECIALIST YOU BELIEVE WHAT YOU WRITE IN YOURSELF
      1. Alexey K.
        Alexey K. April 7 2013 22: 54 New
        0
        WHO WANTS TO KNOW THE TRUTH ABOUT THE DESTRUCTION OF THE KURSK Nuclear Power Submarine READ THE BOOK Shigina Vladimir - APRK Kursk. 10 years later. Facts and versions.

        Here is the link: http://profismart.ru/web/bookreader-125918-42.php

        1. Alexey K.
          Alexey K. April 7 2013 23: 25 New
          0
          Here are some excerpts from the book:

          ... by 13 o’clock on August 12, 9 people had gathered in the 23th compartment - all who were still alive by this time. Probably the captain-lieutenant Kolesnikov took over the general command. Why is it likely? Because none of his two notes speaks about this clearly, however, the papers found in Dmitry Kolesnikov’s pocket suggest that it was he who might have commanded. In addition to the notes, in his pocket was a list of all 23 submariners who remained alive at that time. Each of the surnames was ticked. Most likely, Kolesnikov from time to time carried out the roll call of personnel. At least he did it twice - at 13 and 15 hours ..... What did the submariners do? First of all, they “blew” the compartment, that is, they created increased pressure in it to avoid the flow of water. In the second note by Kolesnikov, found a little later than the first, it says that the pressure in the compartment was increased to 0,6 kilograms per square centimeter. Divers saw the same indicator on the manometer of the 9th compartment. There was water in the compartment, but its level did not exceed 15–20 centimeters ..... Apparently, the submariners were preparing to leave the compartment with free ascent. For this, all necessary measures were taken, breathing apparatuses were prepared. According to physiologists of the Navy, when they ascend from a 108-meter depth, 100 percent of those going upstairs get decompression sickness, and many get severe lung barotrauma. But in such an extreme situation, the question is extremely tough: it’s either alive or dead, and therefore they treat the associated troubles as inevitability. Diseases will heal later, initially the most important thing is to save a life. The efforts of rescuers are also concentrated on this .... But in order to emerge, submariners must still be able to leave the submarine. But this was in the 9th compartment and could not. All of their numerous attempts to open the ASL from below were unsuccessful. The submariners faced the same problem as the pilots of rescue underwater shells who tried to stick to the ASL mirror. Something happened to the rescue hatch, but what?
          Until now, the exact reason for the failure of the ASL has not yet been clarified. There is an opinion that it was impossible to suck in rescue shells because of a cracked mirror. However, many experts do not believe in this. A cracked mirror could interfere with suction of an underwater shell, but it could in no way serve as an obstacle to people leaving the submarine. “The steel from which the mirror is made,” experts say, “could not crack, and therefore, most likely, the ASL glass, which rigidly connects the light and durable hull of the boat, simply“ led ”(distorted) as a result of the explosion.” That is why the shells could not stick, and people could not get out. Only divers managed to open the top cover with the help of specially made keys .....
          1. Misantrop
            Misantrop April 7 2013 23: 42 New
            +1
            There is an opinion that it was impossible to suck in rescue shells because of a cracked mirror. However, many experts do not believe in this.
            What does faith or disbelief have to do with it? The crack was, and of such a size, that a hand passed into it. Not only that, after the gap, the docking ring bent (like the Grover washer, i.e. there was simply no docking plane). Data from those who saw it themselves in the floating dock. Divers could not open the top cover even with keys. She was torn with a cable from the surface. The glass itself between the upper and lower hatch turned out to be filled with water, i.e. at least there were cracks in its walls. Most likely, when you try to open the lower hatch, water gushed out. They could try to join the satellite and exit by flooding the compartment, BUT ... something did not work out initially. In addition, they would not have been able to open the top cover - in this hatch in the ISP-60, there is no way to turn around alone; With my small stature and weight of 62 kg, I could hardly fit in equipment there. In other words, they had NO chance of salvation, no matter how bitterly admit it. And the rescue-diving detachment, previously stationed in Polyarny, was no longer there by this year either, it was disbanded "as unnecessary." And from 108 meters you can go out even without an additional balloon
          2. shpuntik
            shpuntik April 8 2013 13: 37 New
            +1
            Sorry, but the notes of Lieutenant Kolesnikov were published, are there photocopies?
        2. Alexey K.
          Alexey K. April 7 2013 23: 30 New
          +1
          Here are excerpts from the book:

          ... The inability to independently come to the surface, of course, complicated the already rather difficult situation of 23 people in the 9th compartment. But not all was lost! Most likely, it was at this time that the words written by Dmitry Kolesnikov came in: “Do not despair!” ... Both captain-lieutenant Kolesnikov and the rest of the submariners were well aware that, after the boat had not contacted, the fleet had already been alerted and they are looking for. And so now it was necessary to struggle with all our might for the survivability of the compartment, for the preservation of our own lives and wait, wait, wait. The fact that after 15 hours Dmitry Kolesnikov writes already in the dark also speaks in favor of this version. No one could say how long it would take to be in the compartment, and therefore it was necessary to save emergency battery batteries.
          Remember now the numerous statements of the fleet leaders about the estimated time that could be in the 9th submarine compartment. Most often, a period of 10 days appeared. Today’s analysis of the situation in the 9th compartment confirms this: they could and were ready to hold out these very 10 days. However, this did not happen. Why? Because something terrible happened that at once erased the hopes of millions of people. Now we come close to the secret of the 9th compartment .....
          So what all the same happened around 19 p.m. on August 12 in the 9th compartment? Most likely, the following happened.
          Towards evening, oxygen deprivation was felt in the compartment, and it was decided to charge the RDU with fresh regeneration plates. This operation was entrusted to carry out three submariners. They approached the RDU, carrying a jar with regeneration plates, and began to recharge it. At that moment, the irreparable happened. One of the three dropped the regeneration plates, and possibly the entire jar into water mixed with oil. Why this happened, one can only speculate. Perhaps the fatigue of the previous hours, the crampedness and lack of lighting affected. It is possible that the plates did not drop, but simply dripped water or oil from the ceiling. Be that as it may, there was an explosion ... According to doctors, the death of these submariners could have occurred in the region of 19-20 hours on August 12.

          WHAT WEEK? DEPARTURES KILLED ON AUGUST 12 EVEN UNTIL 23 HOURS, WHEN AFTER THE SUBCRAFT WASN'T EXITED FOR THE SECOND TIME, IT WAS ANNOUNCED BY THE NORTHERN FLEET ALARM.
      2. Chamber No. 6
        Chamber No. 6 April 8 2013 06: 30 New
        0
        Quote: Alexey K.
        FULL nonsense - this is probably from the case of OBS - one grandmother said - nonsense without evidence and facts - a lie

        This is not nonsense! This is the result of the work of the "well-brained" brain analyst on a district scale, influenced by Hennessy ... Alas!
      3. Chamber No. 6
        Chamber No. 6 April 8 2013 06: 40 New
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        Quote: Alexey K.
        FULL nonsense - this is probably from the case of OBS - one grandmother said - nonsense without evidence and facts - a lie

        This is not nonsense! This is the result of the work of the "well-brained" brain analyst on a district scale, influenced by Hennessy ... Alas!
      4. shpuntik
        shpuntik April 8 2013 13: 50 New
        +2
        Respected! Pay attention to the length of the boat!
        Main characteristics
        Displacement 14 t
        Full displacement 24 tons
        Xnumx length m
        18,2 width m
        Draft 9,2 m
        It was really possible to lift the crane by the screw. I think so. And not one floating crane should be, but at least three, another one on a safety net. Further at a shallower depth, the connection for air purging the light body, this could be done in a light-diving outfit. I tend to trust sailors and their wives, who know the capabilities and conditions of submarines, sometimes better than theoretical scribblers. Whose money did he publish the book for?
        1. Alexey K.
          Alexey K. April 9 2013 01: 31 New
          0
          Dear Shpuntik.
          How simple it is - three floating screens and no problems)) Where have you been with your ideas before? And surely they were saved by professionals who knew their job and considered all the options for salvation, and knew the length of the boat and the depth in this place. And if you bother to read the book of Shigin Vladimir - APRK “Kursk”. 10 years later. Facts and versions. you would know when and by whom what decisions were made based on the situation in the place of death and available means of salvation. And whose money and how he published the book there is also written - please read the work.
          All the best.
    5. Alexey K.
      Alexey K. April 7 2013 22: 48 New
      0
      [quote = Asgard] Eternal memory to sailors and foremen, submarine officers. It has its own specifics. The life of the entire crew often depends on the actions of one ...
      K-141 “Kursk” - Nuclear Submarine Rocket-Bearing, project 949A “Antei”, was put into operation on December 30, 1994. From 1995 to 2000 - as part of the Northern Fleet of Russia, the base station Vidyaevo.
      He was attacked and sank in the Barents Sea, 175 km from Severomorsk (69 ° 40′00 ″ N 37 ° 35′00 ″ E) at a depth of 108 meters as a result of the disaster that occurred on August 12, 2000. All 118 crew members on board were killed. In terms of the number of deaths, the accident became the second in the post-war history of the Russian submarine fleet, after the explosion of ammunition on the B-37. (641 projects))
      Moreover, the sailors died within a week. The fleet commander POPOV ordered the withdrawal of the security ships so as not to hear the morse code in the hydrophones, which actually drowned the crew - but then the SENATOR was in the SECURITY commission .....
      I live 400 km from the scene of the tragedy, I often visit Murmansk, I have many friends among sailors, I have my own scuba gear, I dive, my record is 60 meters in the White Sea ......
      ! 108 meters - this is a scuba diving depth for divers. You can get people by giving them oxygen devices, surfacing according to the emergency schedule, put them in the caisson chamber and stay alive. The ship was divided into 10 compartments. A week was needed to ensure that everyone was drowned, so that the remaining air was unsuitable for breathing. How the Wives of the submariners fought, how they shouted — they are drowned !!! (Wives and Children felt their dying husbands and fathers) The submariners were pounding Morse code on the hull .... But now the command stole the ships ??

      complete nonsense
  25. kirills
    kirills April 7 2013 11: 56 New
    +4
    Everlasting memory! This day 24 years ago is impossible to forget, like the day of the death of K-141.
    1. Old_kapitan
      Old_kapitan April 7 2013 15: 31 New
      +3
      Take a look here http://www.kommersant.ru/Doc/599326, and you will understand how short your memory is ...
  26. irka_65. irina
    irka_65. irina April 7 2013 12: 18 New
    +4
    Heroes will not be forgotten! We remember them, love, grieve ...
    They left, they will never return ...
    They do not hug their wives, do not kiss.
    From the threshold of the house they can’t look back
    And do not open the door with a key.

    They went into immortality, in the lines of letters,
    In the sobbing of wives, wrinkles of mothers.
    Last time the marina let them go
    Into the cold silence of the seas.

    They left ... The mourning shore ...
    Their native port roars with sirens ...
    And wives, children, mothers do not believe
    That the crew will not come back.
  27. omsbon
    omsbon April 7 2013 12: 28 New
    +3
    ETERNAL GLORY and ETERNAL HONOR TO ALL DIED SEAFARERS!
    In the Naval Cathedral in Kronstadt in Tsarist times, there were commemorative plaques with the names of the dead sailors, probably the time has come to restore them.
  28. Yuri11076
    Yuri11076 April 7 2013 12: 37 New
    +4
    Quote: BARKAS

    ETERNAL MEMORY OF HEROES OF SUBWELLERS.

    Thanks a great song. For the soul takes !!!
  29. Alexander Kopot
    Alexander Kopot April 7 2013 12: 39 New
    +4
    Everlasting memory.
  30. pooop
    pooop April 7 2013 12: 40 New
    +1
    about the crew of the Kurs nuclear submarine, it’s necessary to write not the dead but the dead!
    and it was not a catastrophe or a doctrine ... the author should look at "official sources" less ...
  31. Misantrop
    Misantrop April 7 2013 12: 57 New
    10
    Quote: pooop
    about the crew of the Kurs nuclear submarine, it’s necessary to write not the dead but the dead!
    and it was not a catastrophe or a doctrine ... the author should look at "official sources" less ...

    Maybe, at least HERE, in this thread, we will not? The guys did not die so that the speculations of their enemies would be raised on the shield over their grave ...
    1. воронов
      воронов April 8 2013 01: 09 New
      +1
      And what do you see fabrications? The fact that they were torpedoed by amers, and then paid off, and we swallowed it?
  32. razved
    razved April 7 2013 13: 16 New
    +4
    Bright memory to all the heroes of the submariners!
  33. Krapovy32
    Krapovy32 April 7 2013 14: 19 New
    +6
    A terrible death, none of us can even imagine what it means to die from a lack of air locked in the hull of a boat. This is not a quick bullet death. The tormenting death of the sworn people. They will remain in memory as a black spot on the conscience of those who did not prevent their death.
  34. Old_kapitan
    Old_kapitan April 7 2013 15: 24 New
    0
    Quote: svp67
    And is it not time for the ROC to think about reckoning them as "great martyrs"?

    Muslims and Jews too?
  35. suharev-52
    suharev-52 April 7 2013 15: 49 New
    +2
    Eternal memory to the guys! Sincerely.
  36. suharev-52
    suharev-52 April 7 2013 15: 50 New
    +2
    Eternal memory, guys! Sincerely.
  37. Mother russia
    Mother russia April 7 2013 16: 50 New
    +3
    Eternal memory, men. Rest in Peace, Peace be with you.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIw3MqOwKQQ
  38. zinander
    zinander April 7 2013 18: 14 New
    +2
    Eternal memory to real men!
  39. skrgar
    skrgar April 7 2013 18: 32 New
    +2
    Eternal memory .. We grieve. Remember.
  40. waisson
    waisson April 7 2013 19: 21 New
    +2
    EVERLASTING MEMORY!!!
  41. domokl
    domokl April 7 2013 19: 41 New
    +7
    During his rather long and eventful life, he only once rode a submarine .. He rode like a ballast ... But this was enough for me to find out what a submarine fleet is and who these submariners are ..
    This is probably why three days are celebrated here in Russia - Border Guard Day, Navy Day and Airborne Forces Day ...
    Everyone serves, everyone fights ... But it is the border guards, sailors and paratroopers who die or win together ... All the heroes or all the dead ...
    Glory and great honor to the submariners of Russia ... You are the pride not only of the Russian fleet, but of the entire Russian army
    1. baltika-18
      baltika-18 April 7 2013 20: 08 New
      +1
      Quote: domokl
      But it is the border guards, sailors and paratroopers who die or win together

      good drinks hi
  42. Ulysses
    Ulysses April 7 2013 20: 42 New
    +1
    Boat squeezed by wild pressure
    Given the trim trim aft
    That means guys are coming soon.
    At the periscopes they see a wave At the periscopes they see a wave
    Quiet on the pier at night
    You only know one
    When a tired submarine from the depths goes home.
    ("Tired Submarine")
  43. povkonavt
    povkonavt April 7 2013 21: 27 New
    +2
    Eternal memory to heroes submariners !!!
  44. Spartakv
    Spartakv April 7 2013 22: 13 New
    +1
    I had a classmate. He lived with his mother, younger brother and grandfather. Grandfather was an old sea wolf. In the apartment there was a marine theme (market, maps, shark jaws, compass and many other exotic sea rarities). It was the beginning of the seventies. Quite by accident, I found out that the father of a classmate had a submariner who died in the sea (as I understood it, no one told the family). The submariner was also the brother of his father, who also did not return from swimming. Here is such an unknown tragedy of one family. Everlasting memory!
  45. Frunze
    Frunze April 7 2013 22: 20 New
    +2
    Eternal memory! To the heroes of the ocean, the giants of Will and Spirit !!!
  46. Sgt.
    Sgt. April 7 2013 23: 22 New
    +1
    ETERNAL MEMORY OF HEROES ...
  47. navy33
    navy33 April 7 2013 23: 25 New
    +2
    Eternal memory to the little brothers!
  48. воронов
    воронов April 8 2013 01: 04 New
    0
    Article minus because Kursk was torpedoed by amers
  49. Geser
    Geser April 8 2013 01: 35 New
    +1
    Eternal memory to the fallen, respect for the living. God grant us fewer such tragedies. All submariners wish that the number of dives should equal the number of floats.
  50. shpuntik
    shpuntik April 8 2013 02: 20 New
    +2
    I am for the rise of Komsomolets. You can start collecting signatures. Through the Internet, for example, VKontakte. Probably will create such a group. Firstly: it is necessary to find out the causes of the fire; it is not known. Secondly: to bury divers with honors. And thirdly: the case is titanium, it may come in handy. By the way, how could depressurization in a titanium case be complete? Something is darkening again ... Just like with the Nerpa ShchB of the Komsomol plant. Poison gas was pumped into the fire extinguishing system, and silence. No one is to blame, there are no pests, saboteurs, some "stones" are spyware. Mess in general!