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As I collapse of the USSR

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Interview with the incomparable Irina Mishina "irena_mishina", whose rating is leading News on the first channel was out of reach for many years.


Andrei Tarakanov did an interview with me in the LJ project "Faces of the Internet".
These are portraits of thousands of bloggers.
Tomorrow will lay out on the main page LJ.

Andrey works very enthusiastically. Himself and the operator, and director, and producer, and editor.
And besides, a very charming man.

To be honest, I do not like to talk about the past, it is difficult to separate me, as a rule. I live only for the present and the future, without nostalgia. But Andrew somehow managed to talk.

The project is very necessary. A few years ago, I started doing something similar on NTV +, but something didn’t work: we’ve followed the top ten bloggers, and they miscalculated. Andrew follows the path of personalities and authors of interesting posts.

P.S. If after laying out on the LJ main page, the trolls will be needed - support, friends!

Irina Mishina


As I collapse of the USSR



Just bring two phrases, one of which will be accurately remembered by those born and raised in the USSR:

- I have to inform you that the country in which we were born and have grown is no more.
- People who have tried the air of freedom in journalism find it very difficult for them to break down and submit ...

Irina Mishina
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  1. vladsolo56
    vladsolo56 April 7 2013 07: 57 New
    93
    So what? I can not understand what this plot is about? Misha is trying to convince us that it is not worth remembering about the USSR, that the “freedom” gained after the collapse of the USSR is more expensive than truth, honor and justice. Only those who have big money got freedom, but now everything is possible for them. The people received even greater dictatorship, even greater humiliation. Bureaucracy has grown to unprecedented proportions.
    As they try to suggest to us that the collapse of the USSR was inevitable, that the Soviet Union was not viable.
    What kind of freedom is she weaving, and today they (journalists) are all for sale, all for one, and for money, and even more for big money, they will air anything.
    In general, it is disgusting, and I want to swear.
    1. Sibiryak
      Sibiryak April 7 2013 08: 27 New
      46
      Quote: vladsolo56
      What kind of freedom is she weaving

      About one in which there is no responsibility whatsoever for the abomination of the deed!
      1. Aleks28
        Aleks28 April 7 2013 08: 50 New
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        Quote: vladsolo56
        About one in which there is no responsibility whatsoever for the abomination of the deed!

        It’s just that this rat wants to go down in history, but in my opinion she got into a story.
        1. Mitek
          Mitek April 7 2013 08: 57 New
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          I was born in the USSR. In 1977. At the time of the collapse of the country, there was no awareness of the tragedy that happened. But then he repeatedly wondered: HOW could this happen? As all this was allowed by the KGB, the Army ..... In the place of Gorbachev I would have choked on ... Enter History forever with the stigma of a traitor. And you are not entirely fair to a journalist. She did not decide anything, she was just a voice. Leaders and army ranks from a middle rank and above "plunged" into history. The whole generation "plunged" into history, which allowed a bunch of scum to tear apart their country, their homeland.
          1. krisostomus
            krisostomus April 7 2013 14: 53 New
            -3
            The Russians have a good proverb - "what is pop - such is the parish." Well, if we talk about the USSR, which proclaimed complete democracy, - we can say the other way around - "what is the parish - such is the pop." Somehow it doesn’t turn out very solidly when the people relieve themselves of responsibility for the actions of the elected leadership. So then all the fate of the country was up to the lantern. What did the GKChP people not support? Or forgot?
            1. Egoza
              Egoza April 7 2013 17: 28 New
              +6
              Quote: krisostomus
              What did the GKChP people not support? Or forgot?

              They did not support it because they no longer believed the CPSU! We saw that this was not the party for which it was worth fighting. And they didn’t see who could really change something! They thought that the old people just hold on to their place. Therefore, they did not come out. Would the former CPSU be another matter. And no one foresaw the collapse of the country. We hoped on EBN that he was young and would pursue the same course, but without a “retirement age group”. At that time, no one would have believed that he would be so ....
              1. krisostomus
                krisostomus April 7 2013 18: 05 New
                -1
                But the USSR only stayed at the Communist Party. They did not support the CPSU — that is, they did not support the USSR.
            2. yak69
              yak69 April 7 2013 18: 32 New
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              Quote: krisostomus
              So then all the fate of the country was up to the lantern. What did the GKChP people not support? Or forgot?

              To my deepest regret, I can confirm these words. So many citizens did not care what happened - everyone was busy with their own affairs, which were closer to him. It really is. Very often I return to that time in my memoirs and look around with my mind's eye those who were nearby and myself.
              The fact is that the vast majority simply did not understand what was happening and what the consequences would be. The “tadpoles” from the Harvard project very competently and technically “summed up” the situation. The local liberals and their loyal associates in the KGB (who organized all kinds of "shortages" and "interruptions") worked perfectly.
              All these Kashpirovskys and Chumaks with their all-Union sessions on TV. You think it's just that they all appeared and the country fell into a trance, into a hitch. General stupefaction, this is the state of that time!
              You can blame everything on the skills of Western special services and traitors, it’s very convenient to relieve yourself of responsibility. No, dear ones, our enemies couldn’t just defeat us like that if we ourselves did NOT indulge them in MUCH.
              Few remained faithful to honor and duty - Varenikov, Makashov and a number of other famous people. The same swan and Pasha Rooks have thrown themselves into the camp of ebn. Why didn’t they strangle this scum Yeltsin? Why did the alpha group then refuse to "shed blood" Yeltsin and his entourage ??! (as their former commander now writes about this). They believe that they did a noble deed without destroying Yeltsman!
              There is no excuse for them after that. For me they are accomplices of a state crime.

              Somehow I flew to a foreign country during a garbage collector strike. The middle of all the streets was littered with garbage, garbage was everywhere. Scavengers defended their rights and achieved a salary increase.
              And we were not able to protect our own country, our families, the future of our children. Out of stupidity, out of cowardice, out of indifference and irresponsibility.
              We must be able to admit our mistakes and be able to cope with them.
              1. 11Goor11
                11Goor11 April 7 2013 20: 32 New
                +1
                Once again about the power of information: I remember well the moment when the mood in the press in relation to the ideology of the country changed dramatically, before the history of the country was bright, and then the mud poured on it. And suddenly “everything has become bad with us” and the ministries are not coping with their tasks (and after all they have coped with what tasks) and the departments are full of bureaucracy and ineffective, and there was a level of social services. protection, to what masses of people now only dreams.
                And here are all our achievements suddenly became disgustingly small compared to the WELLS of WESTERN CIVILIZATION.
                Here with whose filing this lie was launched?
                Now we know that Grobachev, Yakovlev, Shevarnadze and other traitors tried very hard. They themselves authoritatively and convincingly explained that they diligently destroyed "this evil empire," "for the sake of world peace."
                But we were deceived, or whatever else, we all participated one way or another.
            3. arnulla
              arnulla April 7 2013 19: 43 New
              +1
              You don’t have to turn on the plug again next time ... At that time there was a society with a different vision of what was happening. The society of that time did not participate in making fateful decisions. And which of the citizens could assume that the country's leaders, in their right mind and solid memory, OWN HANDS, capable of eliminating what they led ... Well, nobody could have imagined such a thing. Yeltsin, in order to come to power, began to destroy the country, and the hunchback turned out to be political impotent. Although, by law, he, the hunchbacked, was responsible for integrity and the sovereignty of the USSR. By the way, the current marginals act by Yeltsin’s methods - let the country hide from falling oil prices, let Russia look like a scarecrow in the eyes of the West, they omit the institution of the presidency, deputies, power structures in every way. It’s not always the case, by the way ... Dream about a boycott of the Sochi Games. In general, they act according to the principle-burn it all with blue fire, since the stupid people don’t choose us ... All these methods we saw before the collapse of the USSR. But we didn’t take into account hamsters of one — our people already not the one we begin to figure out who is xy from xy. And we have a good memory ...
              1. Rustiger
                Rustiger April 7 2013 23: 24 New
                +1
                And I "plus". Because I agree. And because it seemed imperceptibly familiar. . .
                Then he looked in profile - it turned out to be a countrywoman (if true, of course).
                And I hate Tyrtyr-stan, especially the Asian habalka KaZanga, mowing down under the Euro-ass. Especially for her abandonment of the historical agricultural-kvass-tybeteechny way of life in the direction of the Qatari-Kapak-white-chaplashensky-"ornate".
                I love Kama !!!
                Perhaps, along one street, with licked facades, and with littered "button accordions" and squalid back yards, we drive. Hello, countrywoman! And. . . . .be healthy. . .
              2. krisostomus
                krisostomus April 7 2013 23: 47 New
                +2
                Well, why could not be assumed? These people in their right mind and solid memory just did not liquidate anything, but took over not only power, but also all "popular wealth." That is, everything that they previously ruled today belongs to them or their children with grandchildren or through dummies. There was a "nomenclature revolution" - and this became evident from the first days of the development of the so-called cooperation, when the "party farm" began to create cooperatives at enterprises, which could not have happened without the consent and support of the communist directors. What it turned into - we all remember. There was a lot of money and future "privatizers". The division, of course, was not generalized without a definite brawl, but everything gradually "settled down." The nomenclature with the security forces crushed everyone, appointed oligarchs and determined the rules of the game for them with "sovereign servants". The main thing is "do not steal for no reason" and do not go into politics - otherwise they can be imprisoned. Well, for the "electorate" came up with horror stories about democrats and liberals, who supposedly undermine "patriotism", in general, "enemies of the people" and prevent Russia from "getting up off its knees." Well, if you face the truth, then the liberals with the Democrats, as they were poor, remained so. They didn’t receive anything from this “nomenclature revolution” - neither from the division, nor from the collapse of the state.
            4. d.gksueyjd
              d.gksueyjd April 8 2013 00: 14 New
              0
              GKChP supported the people, did not support Moscow. Abbreviation - a man in the Moscow region.
              Quote: krisostomus
              What did the GKChP people not support? Or forgot?
          2. Aleks28
            Aleks28 April 7 2013 19: 26 New
            +1
            Quote: Mitek
            . The whole generation "plunged" into history, which allowed a bunch of scum to tear apart their country, their homeland.

            Although it is bitter to admit, you are completely right +
        2. Quiet
          Quiet April 7 2013 09: 01 New
          +9
          Just this rat wants to go down in history

          After blathering hunchback right now, all the other ghouls will try to crawl back into politics or rehabilitate themselves .. wassat fool stop
          1. Sibiryak
            Sibiryak April 7 2013 09: 17 New
            +1
            Quote: Quiet
            After blathering hunchback right now, all the other ghouls will try to crawl back into politics or rehabilitate themselves ..

            Maybe the author and threw as they say "bream" about this person-
            An interview with the incomparable Irina Mishina, whose rating as a news anchor on Channel One for many years was unattainable.
            1. Quiet
              Quiet April 8 2013 21: 11 New
              0
              bream - catch on Akhtuba !!! , although general, but you must be able to read literally ... Please read the answer to the nearby Lieutenant Colonel a little lower .... hi I have the honor ...
          2. in reserve
            April 7 2013 16: 10 New
            -2
            vladsolo56
            So what? I can not understand what this plot is about? Misha is trying to convince us that it is not worth remembering about the USSR, that the “freedom” gained after the collapse of the USSR is more expensive than truth, honor and justice.


            This plot is generally for you to remember how it was, The collapse of the USSR and who ruined it.
            The situation at that time was such that everyone was afraid to take responsibility and declare the collapse of the Soviet Union. It’s just made it extreme then, as you generally watched the video.


            Quiet
            Just this rat wants to go down in history

            After blathering hunchback right now, all the other ghouls will try to crawl back into politics or rehabilitate themselves ..


            Why are you insulting such a beautiful woman, a wonderful TV presenter, and just a good person. She has long been in history and does not need this.
            Minus you.
            1. slugger666
              slugger666 April 7 2013 19: 37 New
              -2
              Well, you have a taste if you think this woman is beautiful and what even more resents the story! An ordinary bastard, ready today to support what was ordered, and tomorrow completely different, I’m sure she doesn’t have her opinion!
              1. in reserve
                April 8 2013 11: 25 New
                -1
                Every man to his own taste. It’s not for you to judge my taste. You are not a distant person once you see only the superficial, clinging to words and not delving into the essence of what was said.
                And you don’t have an opinion, since you follow the opinions of the comments above and probably did not watch the video.
                The most “knowledgeable” commentators doused the person with dirt from “their own stupidity,” and you copy them because you don’t have your own opinion.
            2. Quiet
              Quiet April 7 2013 21: 05 New
              0
              Why are you insulting such a beautiful woman


              Minus to you sir !!! Where did you read her name in my toast ??? . Since you have such a rich imagination, do fiction !!!! hi
              1. in reserve
                April 8 2013 11: 31 New
                -1
                Quiet
                Minus to you sir !!! Where did you read her name in my toast ??? . Since you have such a rich imagination, do fiction !!!!


                Yes to me .... to your minus, this does not change the opinion of your comment, they wrote some nonsense without having caught the essence.
                1. Quiet
                  Quiet April 8 2013 21: 14 New
                  -1
                  Yes, I ...

                  Even if up to the neck ... laughing there is a chance to swim !!!! fellow
    2. avt
      avt April 7 2013 10: 16 New
      +6
      Quote: vladsolo56
      So what? I can not understand what this plot is about?

      Do not even bother trying to understand what. This is a plot about a plot. A very revealing level of intelligence of a journalist, in general, "A cuckoo praises a rooster for praising a cuckoo .." laughing
    3. arnulla
      arnulla April 7 2013 19: 22 New
      0
      I agree with you. And yet ... no one could clearly and reasonably explain why the collapse of the USSR was EXACTLY inevitable?
    4. luka095
      luka095 April 7 2013 22: 11 New
      0
      Dear vladsolo56. Misha overestimates himself. People like her have high self-esteem.
      They are like a donkey who goes for a carrot on a stick in front of his nose. Ishak thinks that he chooses the road.
      Such donkeys cannot even realize what they were doing!
    5. gold
      gold April 7 2013 22: 53 New
      0
      the woman's flask whistled fool Do not take to heart!
    6. Dilshat
      Dilshat April 7 2013 23: 56 New
      0
      Yes, just a duped fool "glasnost, perestroika, democracy."
  2. Varog
    Varog April 7 2013 08: 02 New
    +4
    So capitulated the USSR to give life to the European Union. But the male was not a tenant. Is I. Mishina still working on TV? There will be news.
    1. Quiet
      Quiet April 7 2013 08: 55 New
      +4
      to give life to the European Union

      ..not long, scandalous and bloody ...... fool
    2. Varog
      Varog April 7 2013 09: 29 New
      11
      I do not understand why my comments are being neglected. Probably people do not really know the new story. I recommend reading the following link:
      http://www.hrono.info/dokum/194_dok/19490521akt.php
      Excerpt:
      The Germans have only one unconditional right enshrined - mindlessly and obediently follow the instructions from Washington, London and Tel Aviv and work so selflessly and intensively as no one in Europe works. And in order to guarantee a similar state of affairs, the Allies obliged the leadership of the Federal Republic of Germany created in 1949, represented by successors, after their election, to come to Washington for a “label for reign” and sign the so-called “Chancellor Act” there.
    3. edge
      edge April 7 2013 12: 24 New
      +3
      Quote: Varog
      capitulated to the USSR to give life to the European Union. But the male was not a tenant.
      another example of the vitality of capitalism, the USSR has left, and everyone has slipped into an abomination ............ the world has a desire for European values, everyone diligently fails in the Middle Ages
  3. svp67
    svp67 April 7 2013 08: 02 New
    0
    I agree. It would be interesting to know, with whose filing this lady "cuts the truth of the womb"? And most importantly, what did the USSR “annoy” with?
  4. Deniska999
    Deniska999 April 7 2013 08: 03 New
    +7
    She flogs frank nonsense.
    1. Egoza
      Egoza April 7 2013 10: 40 New
      +7
      Quote: Deniska999
      She flogs frank nonsense.

      Yes, not really nonsense! A lady holds her nose in the wind! And this phrase of hers, “People who have tried the air of freedom in journalism, is very difficult for them to break down and obey ...” and shows that the lady is already trying to rehabilitate herself. Well, "Innocent, me!" The air of freedom hit me in the head, I just can’t leave the hangover! "Just in case, you know, suddenly something really will change in the state! And here the West confirms -" The Second USSR, the bastards decided to create under the guise of TS "A because they’ve got used to believe in the West! So the rat spun!
      1. 11Goor11
        11Goor11 April 7 2013 20: 42 New
        0
        Dear Elena, please explain how to at least virtually regain our Flag? smile
        Now I figured it out laughing
        Thanks to fellow developers! soldier
  5. omsbon
    omsbon April 7 2013 08: 07 New
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    Freedom for Chubais or for a stool - this is not at all that freedom for which I am ready to fight!
    1. Aleks28
      Aleks28 April 7 2013 08: 53 New
      +4
      Quote: omsbon
      this is not at all the freedom for which I am ready to fight!

      For some kind of freedom, a simple person did not fight, you need to remember one thing, he will not receive it (freedom) in any situation.
      1. botur
        botur April 7 2013 10: 26 New
        +5
        Quote: Allex28
        For some kind of freedom, a simple person did not fight, you need to remember one thing, he will not receive it (freedom) in any situation.

        And from what freedom? But for confidence in the future, you can fight. hi
  6. svp67
    svp67 April 7 2013 08: 11 New
    13
    Quote: Varog
    There will be news.



    It would be logical that she also read out the message about the collapse of the European Union and the USA
    1. sergo0000
      sergo0000 April 7 2013 08: 30 New
      11
      I agree! hi It would be symbolic! drinks
      Well, minus that, friends! Do we not recognize ourselves in the wake of perestroika and "democratic" changes!? How much did we know then what this is fraught with? She, although subconsciously, does not absolve herself of part of the blame for what happened. that in Moscow, living in the midst of all this liberal rabble it’s hard to remain human, but at least try. As she said in an interview, “It was very strange to me then too that they would turn to the American president first and not to our people, although I think we could say something "
      Therefore, we will not be so categorical and remember ourselves. hi Although in my personal opinion, now it looks more beautiful and smarter! If we all knew then what it would lead to, they might not have allowed this disaster! Yes, I’m sure! The Union would defend!
    2. Egoza
      Egoza April 7 2013 10: 41 New
      +1
      Quote: svp67
      It would be logical that she also read out the message about the collapse of the European Union and the USA

      Why so cruel! The lady will fall off the stool! laughing And this is live! lol
  7. svp67
    svp67 April 7 2013 08: 14 New
    +8
    In general, this is a very significant event - the first message "Belovezhsky sitters" was made to the US president, and not to his people. Clearly, we must report to the customer ..
    1. Varog
      Varog April 7 2013 08: 29 New
      +1
      I say: surrender.
      1. servant
        servant April 7 2013 08: 37 New
        +7
        Not surrender-treason !!!!!
      2. djon3volta
        djon3volta April 7 2013 10: 47 New
        +3
        Quote: Varog
        I say: surrender.

        I advise you to read N. Starikov “Sherche la oil” here is a quote: Our Stabilization Fund is located in the United States because we lost the Cold War to them.
        And the losing Russia began to pay tribute to its winners. There is nothing to be surprised at; this has already happened in our history. In the years 1237-1240, the Mongols, led by Batu, conquered most of what was then Ancient Russia. Our country paid tribute to the Horde for more than 200 years. Was this a bad characterization of our leaders in those years? No, Prince Alexander Nevsky drove money to the Horde and crawled on his knees to the Mongol ruler, showing humility. And the prince met knight dogs with a sword and a horn. Why is the approach so different? Because the Livonian order could defeat the Novgorod army, but the Mongols did not. The heroic death of the entire Russian people could be organized very easily - refuse to pay tribute. The Mongols would come and cut everyone. When there are no forces for resistance, you need to collect them, and in order not to be touched, peace must be paid for with money. A good statesman is primarily trying to save his people. There will be people - there will be money. If Russia had a Stabilization Fund in the time of the Golden Horde, you can rest assured: it would have been invested in Golden Horde securities!

        http://lib.rus.ec/b/173986/read
        1. Varog
          Varog April 7 2013 10: 51 New
          +8
          I advise you to read N. Starikov "Sherche la oil"

          Thank! I read it a long time and I know. In the same spirit, Kissinger said (I do not quote): look where your elite holds their money and think again, whose elite is it.
          1. djon3volta
            djon3volta April 7 2013 11: 50 New
            +4
            Now that we’ve figured out the real controllability of black gold prices, it's time to plunge into history a little. More than a 6-fold decline in oil prices in 1986 became a “catalyst for the collapse of the Soviet economy” and the subsequent collapse of the Soviet Union, Egor Timurovich Gaidar convincingly says in his books and speeches. [26] Have you read the articles of this respected author? These are graphs, tables. Numbers, numbers, numbers. It is not clear to a simple person absolutely nothing. This is not an accident, it is a tradition. When, as prime minister, Yegor Timurovich spoke publicly, almost no one ever understood him. Gaidar is too complicated and scientifically explained. Therefore, he went to a political dump, to slag. Now we have to interpret the confused research of the former prime minister. Although I must say thanks to him. Not for the collapse of the economy, of course, but for his books. After all, without knowing it, he brings to us one very important message: the USSR fell apart under the pressure of an economic catastrophe of unprecedented power! There were no objective reasons for the collapse of the Union; it was this six-fold drop in the price of the main subject of our exports that caused the most serious problems of the Soviet economy.
            It is important that these words sound from the lips of a liberal and an ardent marketer. This recognition is all the more expensive. The Soviet economy was not over-efficient; it was in poor condition. But any economy of any country will find itself in exactly the same condition in the event of a fall in the price of its export items by 6 times in one year! Japan will begin to breathe if Japanese cars and consumer electronics become cheaper several times. You can say as much as you like that the USSR was on the "oil needle", it is very difficult to survive such a collapse, and most likely, it is impossible for any economic entity. After all, the terms of a colossal fall in prices are very tight, for a year you can’t rebuild the most beautiful dynamically efficient economy. It is simply not possible.
            1. Varog
              Varog April 7 2013 14: 47 New
              +1
              There were no objective reasons for the collapse of the Union; it was this six-fold drop in the price of the main subject of our exports that caused the most serious problems of the Soviet economy.

              You very incidentally recalled this episode from a nearby story. Do you know why? Because just today, the West is trying to play it again. Only not on oil but on natural gas. Qatar has very large gas fields and the largest terminal and fleet for transporting liquefied gas (google to help).
              http://telegrafist.org/2013/04/05/49647/
              If the plans for the democratization of the Middle East are in time, Qatar will be able to lay gas pipelines through S. Arabia, Jordan, Syria, Turkey directly to Europe.
              You can also later organize the influx of Caspian deposits through Iran and Turkey to Europe.
              But after this, you can drop the price of natural gas for ten years every ten years, as S. Arabia did in 1985-86. with oil.
            2. Genur
              Genur April 7 2013 18: 06 New
              0
              I advise colleagues to study the history of Russia. And to begin with at least
              http://paranormal-news.ru/news/istorija_rusov_po_indijski/2013-01-27-6139
            3. sleepy
              sleepy April 7 2013 18: 24 New
              0
              Quote: djon3volta
              "... It’s just right to plunge a little into history. A decrease in oil prices by more than 6 times in 1986 was
              “A catalyst for the collapse of the Soviet economy” and the subsequent collapse of the Soviet Union,
              Egor Timurovich Gaidar speaks convincingly in his books and speeches. [26]
              Have you read the articles of this respected author? These are graphs, tables. Numbers, numbers, numbers.
              It’s incomprehensible to an ordinary person nothing ... "

              If it is not clear to a simple person, I suggest reading Stepan Sulakshin.
              It is written in a simple and accessible language.
              And further.
              In the USSR there were many high-tech products, and not just oil.
              The USSR had its own computers, its own video recorders, its own Buranas, and its own MIR station.
              In addition, the USSR produced quite a lot of weapons for sale in China, India, Pakistan ...

              Why did the USSR collapse?
              More and more answer in one word - betrayal.

              Stepan Sulakshin. "Treason."
              http://lib.guru.ua/POLITOLOG/sulakshin.txt
              In the book, a study of a famous Russian politician and scientist, the state of the real mechanism of state governance of Russia in the 90s is studied.
              A professionally planned, global and focused on the implementation of national security, national interests of the United States and its satellite countries, mechanism for managing Russia from abroad is described in detail. "

              "..." To make a decision on full exemption for a period of five years from customs duties, levies and taxes on Boeing-750 aircraft, Douglas-DS10 aircraft imported into the Russian Federation
              in 1994 - 1995 and operated by domestic and international airlines. "
              (Order of the Chairman of the Government of the Russian Federation V. Chernomyrdin N 1489Р of October 7, 1996)
              http://kan-kendarat.livejournal.com/17641.html

              This is where the collapse began, and not with the decline in oil prices.
    2. str73
      str73 April 7 2013 08: 58 New
      +5
      Moreover, as eyewitnesses recall, all these Yeltsins ran to call Bush.
  8. treskoed
    treskoed April 7 2013 08: 39 New
    0
    Just another business day. One could find a brighter event for the interview.
  9. Belogor
    Belogor April 7 2013 08: 43 New
    0
    Judging by the title, so this lady is just megalomania.
    1. Varog
      Varog April 7 2013 08: 50 New
      +2
      Judging by the title, so this lady is just megalomania.

      Or she has such a sense of humor. She says in an interview that no one dared to report the collapse of the Union and she was made extreme. Like, once they said on TV, then there is no turning back ...
  10. Tatarus
    Tatarus April 7 2013 08: 46 New
    +3
    My grandfather told me in childhood, but I was small and stupid did not understand. Now it’s 33 and the ram (I) understood.

    "BABA A Fool IS NOT BECAUSE A Fool, BECAUSE A BABA"
  11. Grishka100watt
    Grishka100watt April 7 2013 08: 56 New
    +2
    I did not understand, but what to look at? Some memoirs of an odious aunt.
    Fu
    1. Azaat
      Azaat April 7 2013 16: 14 New
      0
      No, this is not a memoir, but only an announcement on an unwritten memoir entitled "How I collapsed the USSR."
  12. omsbon
    omsbon April 7 2013 09: 03 New
    0
    Quote: Allex28
    you need to remember one thing, he will not receive it (freedom) in any situation.

    I do not agree! Examples of this are the struggle for the freedom of the motherland, the struggle against slavery, etc.
  13. stranik72
    stranik72 April 7 2013 09: 04 New
    13
    Grandmother suddenly realizes that she lied about freedom and about the USSR, and she really wants to prove even now that she was right, she doesn’t sleep well at night and continues to talk about the same thing. The USSR was not a free country, and the Gulag Stalin was all bad there, but now everyone is free and happy, and this is its merit. Only the old woman will not understand the main thing, that in a country where there is unemployment, where you need to pay money for treatment, and the rightness in court determines the amount of the wallet in a country where the law "like drawbar ..." in principle, there can be freedom. For freedom from want and fear gives a person the right to be free, in the USSR we all had this freedom. Sooner or later, they will die all shifters. And we will restore the country, work in the sweat of our faces in order to wipe away all the vomit that they leave with their verbiage. And I really want you to realize that true freedom is not built on lies, theft and betrayal. Freedom is obtained later, no matter how terrible it is, with blood and truth. And so that the USSR-2 option only now with Russia does not happen again, to prevent such people as EBN, humpback, BAB from feeding the feeders, to destroy them at an early stage, like a cancerous malignant tumor? True, for this we ourselves need to become a people such as “But it’s not scary to die for Russia”, if we don’t become, then we will be slaves, and they certainly are not free
    1. Grishka100watt
      Grishka100watt April 8 2013 08: 45 New
      0
      Well said buddy!
  14. lewerlin53rus
    lewerlin53rus April 7 2013 09: 06 New
    +3
    It seems that she boasts and is incredibly proud of herself, sticking out her significance.
    1. Sibiryak
      Sibiryak April 7 2013 09: 12 New
      +2
      Pride is a deadly sin!
    2. zanoza
      zanoza April 7 2013 11: 01 New
      0
      Moreover, who is not with her and thinks otherwise - TROLLS. fool
      Freedom of speech, in their concepts, only for such "freedom-loving" zhurnalyug! negative
      1. Sibiryak
        Sibiryak April 7 2013 11: 27 New
        +1
        Quote: zanoza
        Freedom of speech, in their concepts, only for such "freedom-loving" zhurnalyug!

        The freedom of speech for a modern journalist is the opportunity to say FALSE and lie again when this lie is revealed!
  15. WWW.budanov
    WWW.budanov April 7 2013 09: 16 New
    +2
    Do not be offended, men, on this REPENTANCE. Here, even Berezovsky sent a letter to Putin ... The main thing in Russia has begun the REVIVAL !!!
    (old teacher)
  16. ysychyov
    ysychyov April 7 2013 09: 26 New
    +3
    To the author: it’s not easier to write “Ira I love you” and not to take time from serious people, and as for “not comparable,” someone likes lemons, someone likes boxes of lemons. am
  17. Ulysses
    Ulysses April 7 2013 09: 50 New
    +4
    Quote: WWW.budanov
    Do not be offended, men, on this REPENTANCE. Here, even Berezovsky sent a letter to Putin ... The main thing in Russia has begun the REVIVAL !!!
    (old teacher)



    To be reborn, one must decisively get rid of NGOs and the rest of the legacy of the 90s, including on television.
  18. vlrosch
    vlrosch April 7 2013 09: 51 New
    +1
    The poor girl sang from someone else's voice, picked up scraps from the master's table, and now nobody needs her profession. It is not necessary now to assert that you ruined the USSR, you ruined your homeland and now crying that you were thrown overboard. Say thank you for treating you like this, treating others worse.
  19. medwed1976
    medwed1976 April 7 2013 10: 31 New
    +5
    let them say what they want, but mine HOMELAND - USSR
  20. AndreyAB
    AndreyAB April 7 2013 10: 42 New
    +3
    That scoundrel, found something to brag about, helped trample the homeland, and now the stupid is talking about some kind of freedom. from whom was this lady freed? from honor, conscience, elementary decency. so it just lowers the whole corrupt announcer and correspondent fraternity even lower and more related to prostitutes.
    1. Varog
      Varog April 7 2013 16: 53 New
      +1
      She says everything as a professional to a professional. Previously, although I worked on the trump channel (and maybe because of this), I felt forced, because I had no other choice who to serve. Now, with free the market, who pays the most, is what you are going to work out. Nothing personal just business. Well, if there is no shortage of money, then you can flirt and play with principle and handshake.
  21. Gorchakov
    Gorchakov April 7 2013 10: 43 New
    +4
    If you water everyone and everything with dirt, these zhurnalyugi consider freedom ... then I am against such freedom !!! No wonder most hate them ...
  22. enot555
    enot555 April 7 2013 10: 58 New
    +3
    such and her kind, as well as those who flash in the frame - all to the wall !!!
    Just think about these words: ... turned to the American prident ...
    What the hell is that ???? on the count of them all and Gorbach first!
  23. fenix57
    fenix57 April 7 2013 11: 09 New
    +1
    Quote: lewerlin53rus
    she boasts and is incredibly proud of herself, sticking out her significance

    Yes, you actually have nothing to stick out. In vain is she with such a "value" about herself. Does anyone here on the site remember anyone about her. I doubt it.
  24. Captain45
    Captain45 April 7 2013 11: 13 New
    +3
    "An interview with the incomparable Irina Mishina irena_mishina, whose rating as a news anchor on Channel One has been unattainable for many years." As long as I live and watch TV, I don’t remember such a news anchor, especially on the 1 channel, neither in the eighties, nor in the 90's, nor in the 2000's. I remember Anna Shatilova, I remember Tatyana Vedeneeva, Bodrova is from 80- x I remember, they kept the news, Mitkov, Sorokin is 90 I remember, I don’t remember Mishin. Maybe she led on some state or English channel? People !!! Who remembers this venal miracle, ay, answer me.
    1. zanoza
      zanoza April 7 2013 11: 34 New
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      Quote: Captain45
      People !!! Who remembers this ...


      Read here:http://www.peoples.ru/tv/mishina/
      From there: "Husband, Alexander, businessman, specialist in the field of finance."
  25. bubla5
    bubla5 April 7 2013 11: 35 New
    0
    Once again this b-hustle and impose an opinion, the country is plundered and plundered, and it’s all about freedom of speech, etc., that's when there will be a ban on the export of capital of unproven and unearned, then these s-ki will remember freedom
  26. Selevc
    Selevc April 7 2013 11: 51 New
    +1
    People who have tried the air of freedom in journalism find it very difficult for them to break down and submit ...


    You see this information freedom now - the freedom to pour dirt from TV screens into your own brains
    citizens, freedom from punishment for lying on the air, the complete venality of the media, freedom to mock
    the history of their country and freedom from the moral principles and traditions of their people !!!

    How embarrassed are these media prostitutes !!!
  27. Mikhail3
    Mikhail3 April 7 2013 11: 55 New
    +3
    "We Plowed" - the revelation of the dung flies in seven episodes. It is time for our journalism to acquire individual symbols, at least a coat of arms and a flag. Because it has long ceased to represent either our state or our people, that is, it is a separate entity that is consistently at war with Russia. The motto of our journalism should be freely drawn on the rainbow flag - “Neither shame nor conscience”
  28. Boa kaa
    Boa kaa April 7 2013 12: 32 New
    +4
    "As I r and z in and l and l and USSR" ??????? You didn’t stand around with it, just read the post factum as a fait accompli. Apparently I wanted to be promoted in my old age. Therefore, I agree with the opinion that "My grandmother has delusions of grandeur and senile insanity, lack of modesty and understanding of the essence of the problem."
  29. rpek32
    rpek32 April 7 2013 12: 54 New
    +1
    Aunt wants to grab her place in history.
  30. irka_65. irina
    irka_65. irina April 7 2013 12: 55 New
    +1
    It is not clear what she wanted to say at all? Remind about that. what did she announce the "death" of the USSR? Once again slashed across the heart. And it is so unbearably painful to see all this rampant crime, to hear daily lies about the prosperity of our Motherland. Wanted the former popularity?
  31. knn54
    knn54 April 7 2013 12: 55 New
    +2
    Under the Soviet dictatorship, they knew what was possible and what was not. Under democracy, they were imprisoned for something else.
    Democracy is the power of the oligarchs over the people. And no one will convince me otherwise.
    On March 25, the ex-deputy Viktor Lozinsky, the Higher Specialized Court in Criminal and Civil Cases, not only reduced his sentence by four years, but also dropped the charge of murder (in 2009, Valery Oliynyk died from Lozinsky’s actions), qualified his act as “hooliganism” ". Now, the ex-deputy, it turns out, can get parole in 2017. Get out at the same time as those Svobodovites who threw snowballs at the “regionals” deputies on April 2 near the Verkhovna Rada - because, as the adviser to the metropolitan police Igor Mikhalko said, the youths (SAME ARTICLE “hooliganism”) are threatened with four years in prison. DEMOCRACY.
    PS JOURNALISM - the profession is almost as ancient as ... in a word, this is the second oldest profession. Some SUCCESSFULLY combine both the first and second ...
  32. knn54
    knn54 April 7 2013 12: 56 New
    0
    Under the Soviet dictatorship, they knew what was possible and what was not. Under democracy, they were imprisoned for something else.
    Democracy is the power of the oligarchs over the people. And no one will convince me otherwise.
    On March 25, the ex-deputy Viktor Lozinsky, the Higher Specialized Court in Criminal and Civil Cases, not only reduced his sentence by four years, but also dropped the charge of murder (in 2009, Valery Oliynyk died from Lozinsky’s actions), qualified his act as “hooliganism” ". Now, the ex-deputy, it turns out, can get parole in 2017. To leave at the same time as those Freedom women who threw snowballs at the “regional” deputy on April 2 near the Verkhovna Rada - because, as the adviser to the metropolitan police Igor Mikhalko said, young men (for the same article “hooliganism”) are threatened with four years in prison. DEMOCRACY.
    PS JOURNALISM - the profession is almost as ancient as ... in a word, this is the second oldest profession. Some SUCCESSFULLY combine both the first and second ...
  33. varov14
    varov14 April 7 2013 13: 39 New
    +1
    "People who have tried the air of freedom in journalism are very difficult for them to break down and submit ...

    Irina Mishina "--- One must also be so presumptuous. Freedom is exactly as much as the loot paid and how much this freedom is allowed by the one who pays.
  34. Opera
    Opera April 7 2013 13: 41 New
    0
    What is this story about? Yes, nothing! And I'm so kind ... Free, chatting what I want! In general, full Learn!
  35. varov14
    varov14 April 7 2013 13: 45 New
    0
    "People who have tried the air of freedom in journalism are very difficult for them to break down and submit ...

    Irina Mishina "n6 it is necessary to be so presumptuous, now freedom is only as much as the loot paid and as much as those who pay.
  36. amp
    amp April 7 2013 14: 40 New
    -2
    I feel sorry for the bullet ....
  37. Chukcha
    Chukcha April 7 2013 15: 42 New
    -1
    From the proposed interview, it is completely incomprehensible to me how this lady "collapsed the USSR."
    I believe journalistic ambitions outweigh here.
  38. hrych
    hrych April 7 2013 16: 31 New
    +2
    Earlier, in the USSR, central announcers had flawless diction (which, in fact, means the term) and an appearance that excluded signs of degeneration (the curved snout of Svanidze is the antipode). This same Misha is a typical example, when rat-winged creatures appeared on the screen, with the same flawed diction, or rather its absence. And the fact that this mouse had just climbed out of the cesspool, with the subconscious, realized, that eternal oblivion and contempt will soon come, for their time has gone irrevocably.
    1. Egoza
      Egoza April 7 2013 17: 38 New
      +2
      Quote: hrych
      Previously, in the USSR, central announcers possessed impeccable diction.

      Add absolute literacy as well. Both in terms of grammar and pronunciation. God forbid to put stress there! Do not pronounce the name of the country, change the name of any comrade ... Now it is all over the place! Well, in Ukrainian TV they exclusively “skillfully” invent new words, the main thing is that it doesn’t look like Russian. They generally hardly understand them , look more at the running line and do not listen to the announcer!
  39. smart ass
    smart ass April 7 2013 16: 46 New
    0
    Here you explain to me the fans of the USSR ... why are you at home, then you sat with your tails pressed when the power changed? Why didn’t they go to bed under the tanks ??? Didn’t get the grandfather’s sawn-off shotgun from the closet ???? Someone stole your country ... Berezovsky, Chubais, Khodorkovsky amers henchmen are to blame ????? Well, what did you do ?? What did the almighty KGB do ????
    1. hrych
      hrych April 7 2013 17: 34 New
      +3
      When the KGB was led by the Trotskyist Andropov, the union, as a project, was doomed. Another KGB officer is launching the third new submarine missile carrier, while Khodor is at the bucket and Birch is in the loop. If the Russian people did not show restraint and patience, succumbing to emotions, took up the berdanks, then from historical practice the next stage is the intervention, that with nuclear weapons the final end of the Russian people, as such. Well, most people had no desire to fight for Marxism and Obkom rations.
    2. d.gksueyjd
      d.gksueyjd April 9 2013 20: 34 New
      0
      It was not the people who decided it, the Muscovites, but they su * and even those when they began to live like EVERYTHING in the USSR they raised a riot! Even now they produce almost nothing, but only consume - parasites of the Russian Federation!
  40. Varog
    Varog April 7 2013 17: 07 New
    +1
    Quote: Clever man
    Here you explain to me fans of the USSR ... why are you at home, then you sat with your tails pressed when the power changed? Why didn’t they go to bed under the tanks ??? Didn’t get the grandfather’s sawn-off shotgun from the closet ???? Someone stole your country ... Berezovsky, Chubais, Khodorkovsky amers henchmen are to blame ????? Well, what did you do ?? What did the almighty KGB do ????

    So after all lied and those in power, and their SMDI, and the Committee state security protected the sovereigns, not the people; those who paid him and shared power.
    So it was in all the former Soviet republics and social services. countries (with the exception of Belarus). But even in Belarus, not one nation saved the country, but a sound skeleton of state power. The lucky ones.
  41. Black
    Black April 7 2013 17: 39 New
    +4
    Quote: Clever man
    Here you explain to me fans of the USSR ... why are you at home, then you sat with your tails pressed when the power changed? Why didn’t they go to bed under the tanks ??? Didn’t get the grandfather’s sawn-off shotgun from the closet ???? Someone stole your country ... Berezovsky, Chubais, Khodorkovsky amers henchmen are to blame ????? Well, what did you do ?? What did the almighty KGB do ????


    Umnik minus slapped, and in the process they slap. But he is right in part. Many who are younger accepted perestroika with heart and soul, and "URYA !!!" shouted. I shouted myself. And when the GKChP soaked in claps, too, clapped. I began to sober up, in my opinion after the execution of the database, after default .... it was too late to drink Borjomi ...
    But there were those who initially did not believe in perestroika. publicity, not looking at the AMF, Twinkle, the pressure in the tele-zombie. I remember my arguments to the hoarseness with the communist father. (Now I would say to him, “Dad, you were right ...”, it’s too late. But they didn’t get in the way ... The Soviet government etched “rebellion” pretty much.
    1. arkady149
      arkady149 April 7 2013 18: 15 New
      +2
      Quote: Chen
      But he is right in part. Many who are younger accepted perestroika with heart and soul, and "URYA !!!" shouted. I shouted myself. And when the GKChP soaked in claps, too, clapped. I began to sober up, in my opinion after the execution of the database, after default .... it was too late to drink Borjomi ...
      But there were those who initially did not believe in perestroika. publicity, not looking at the AMF, Twinkle, the pressure in the tele-zombie. I remember my arguments to the hoarseness with the communist father. (Now I would say to him, “Dad, you were right ...”, it’s too late. But they didn’t get in the way ... The Soviet government etched “rebellion” pretty much.

      Although the spirit of rebellion has corroded the government, I don’t think that if the people knew that the most “most savvy state assets would go to the whitish friends of Naina Iosifovna Yeltsin’s daughter, they would hardly have reacted to such a“ free and bright future ”of their homeland.
      1. Black
        Black April 7 2013 18: 24 New
        +2
        Well, who could imagine the theft elevated to the rank of state system, the collapse of morality, a civil war throughout almost the entire territory of the USSR .... I would know where to fall.

        Journalists (including the birthday of the article) are hardly worth blaming. it does not occur to us to reproach a prostitute for her profession.
        1. s1н7т
          s1н7т April 7 2013 23: 14 New
          0
          Quote: Chen
          it doesn’t occur to us to mock a prostitute for her profession

          And who to chide - a school? parents? CPSU?
          Shopipets, "middle class"!))) Wretched only the grave will fix
  42. Varog
    Varog April 7 2013 18: 05 New
    +1
    Quote: Chen
    A wise guy minus slammed, and in the course of another slap. But he is right in part. Many who are younger accepted perestroika with heart and soul, and "URYA !!!" shouted. I shouted myself. And when the GKChP soaked in claps, too, clapped. I began to sober up, in my opinion after the execution of the database, after default .... it was too late to drink Borjomi ...

    So it was in all countries and republics, up to Egypt and Libya. This is a bozik of youth, which the sea knee-deep, but does not know that everything has already been calculated and divided between the "wise elders." You have to grow up.
  43. Varog
    Varog April 7 2013 18: 30 New
    +1
    Quote: sleepy
    "..." Decide on a full five-year exemption from customs duties, duties and taxes for Boeing 750 aircraft, Douglas-DS10 aircraft imported into the Russian Federation in 1994-1995 and operated on domestic and international airlines " .
    (Order of the Chairman of the Government of the Russian Federation V. Chernomyrdin N 1489Р of October 7, 1996)
    http://kan-kendarat.livejournal.com/17641.html

    This is where the collapse began, and not with the decline in oil prices.

    Well, no - what happened 10 years later cannot precede previous events.
  44. Black
    Black April 7 2013 18: 42 New
    +1
    Quote: Varog
    You have to grow up.

    It is not simple. it would seem over the years (20 years, not enough !!!) we (overwhelmingly) should learn to separate the grain from the chaff, but ..
    - gigantic thefts in the army are revealed ... we are stupidly and obsequiously waiting and HOPE instead of going out - and REQUIRING !!!
    - Khabarov close, we- what and how did they express their attitude ??? Army - out of politics ??? And to put officers who told the truth is also not politics?
    - oil money continues to lie somewhere in the external financial system, and in Russia, in its outback, stagnation and collapse of production .....
    - ruining education ...
    - in the outback, medicine is actually dying ...
    - television brazenly and shamelessly corrupts the fragile minds of youth ...
    - the Duma and the Federation Council - consisting of millionaires, obscene women and boxers - but we still vote for the FAT, for the joint venture, for FIG knows who !!!

    And where are we - where is our voice. where we said- DOAL !! where we said-GIVE !!! ????
    And they tried, and only the “WATER” came out, where quite adequate people became hostages of the enemies of the Motherland.

    So apparently we still grow up for a long time ... if we do not die in infancy ...
    1. smart ass
      smart ass April 7 2013 19: 02 New
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      I agree to all 100%
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  45. Krapovy32
    Krapovy32 April 7 2013 19: 02 New
    +1
    But they collapsed quickly, this collapse became a tragedy. Especially for those Russians who were on the other side of the border alone against the nationalists.
  46. VOLCHOXURAL
    VOLCHOXURAL April 7 2013 22: 20 New
    0
    What do I hear - "Shakhnazarov - Gorbachev's assistant"? Is that the boss of the movie? sad What kind of patriotic cinema in the country can we talk about? And I was thinking why this is so much darkness and pessimism in our cinema. And that after watching all sorts of “scum”, “9th mouth” and “Kandahar” it fills with some kind of heavy anguish and apathy crying .A because our cinema is not patriotic, but exactly the opposite is anti-patriotic! recourse
  47. Selevc
    Selevc April 7 2013 23: 01 New
    +2
    The film is somewhat reminiscent of the confession and feelings of a prostitute who first appeared on the panel - just as cynical and everything is also turned upside down ... All this political and journalistic scum from the beginning of the 90s gives off as vile deeds as a feat !!!

    Did they risk their lives? Maybe one of them died fighting for the preservation of the USSR? No, they were all the first to run to the "capitalist paradise" - and none of that generation was hurt for all their infamies - they all live well and live very well - because many ordinary mortals cannot live !!!
  48. s1н7т
    s1н7т April 7 2013 23: 10 New
    +2
    "People who have tried the air of freedom in journalism are very difficult for them to break down and submit ..."
    Gee! They have already either choked on this "air", or earn good money on it, powdering the brains of those who still consider themselves human.
  49. Gregory
    Gregory April 8 2013 22: 48 New
    0
    Naturally, the height of the absurdity would be to assume that I. Mishina had collapsed the USSR, or was somehow involved in this. Not to be confused with Mitkova, Svanidze, Sorokina. I have no doubt that Mishina THEN sincerely worried about the collapse, it cost her health. On the other hand, it should be remembered that at that time the former TV presenters were sharply “pushed back”, and young and “non-ideological” were released in their place. We must pay tribute, I. Mishina was fairly balanced and unbiased. And THEN I really appreciated it for it, worried about her imminent departure from Channel One. But that was THEN. And now ... the very fact of a provocative statement of the question of its "merit" in the collapse of the USSR, the absence of special feelings about this, on the contrary, the admiration for the fact that she "breathed in the air of freedom then," says a lot. Okay, you can’t judge a person that she, unlike me, is not a “Scoop”. But with this very “air of freedom” it is interesting. The theme of the collapse of the USSR, especially today, when everyone could feel it, is extremely painful. Irina began to write a lot of people condemning her in involvement, or in indifference to this collapse (the latter can be concluded by watching the current video). And ... a man proud of the possibilities of working without censorship, like a wild cat rushed to remove these comments, be rude, use foul language, ruthlessly ban in response to the slightest criticism! I was banned three times myself !!! But I came to talk with my beloved TV presenter ... No, let her be a professional TODAY 1000 times TODAY, but as a person, for me she fell below the baseboard. These are the consequences of the "air of freedom." Naturally, it was integrated into the system and now it makes money on this “air”.
  50. Woodoo
    Woodoo April 9 2013 03: 09 New
    0
    Would write that thread: "how I stepped on a rake", would look less silly. Another "fighter with a cut"
    A troll from a box, fears the influx of "trolls", i.e. those who disagree with her.