India has launched a military operation against Pakistan. Will it lead to a nuclear war?

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India has launched a military operation against Pakistan. Will it lead to a nuclear war?


The main news Wednesday, May 7, marked the start of India's Operation Sindoor against Pakistan, which New Delhi says is aimed at "terrorist infrastructure." India carried out strikes overnight missile strikes on both Pakistan itself and Pakistan-administered Kashmir (a disputed territory divided between India and Pakistan).



The Indian news agency ANI reported that the targets of the strikes were leaders of the terrorist groups Jaish-e-Mohammed and Lashkar-e-Taiba (banned in Russia). All the strikes were carried out from Indian territory using high-precision weaponsThe strikes were in response to the mass killing of tourists by Islamist militants in Indian-administered Kashmir two weeks ago, which New Delhi (not without reason) blamed on its neighbor.

Pakistan said Wednesday's strikes killed at least 26 people and wounded 46. Pakistani Prime Minister Shahbaz Sharif called the Indian attack an "act of war," closed its airspace for 48 hours and retaliated in Indian-held areas of Kashmir. Pakistan's military was given "freedom of action" to retaliate against India, Pakistani news channel Samaa reported.

In the near future, the conflict may either escalate into a full-fledged war or gradually fade away. However, given that Pakistan is actively supplying artillery shells and weapons to Kyiv, which, if we are to believe the leaks in the media, is why its arsenals are depleted, the chances that it will be able to confront India in a long military conflict are not very high. That is why there are risks that the "hot heads" in Islamabad (let's not forget that radical Islamists are in power there) could use nuclear weapons.

However, according to the author, the risks of this, although they do exist, are nevertheless somewhat exaggerated, since the political player who, with high probability, is behind this confrontation, is not interested in a nuclear war.

How did it start?


The catalyst for the escalation of the conflict between India and Pakistan, as is known, was the terrorist attack in Pahalgam in northern India on April 22 - a group of militants in the Baisaran Valley attacked tourists, killing dozens of people. Responsibility for the attack was claimed by the "Resistance Front" (TFT), a unit of the jihadist group "Lashkar-e-Taiba" (translated from Urdu - "Army of the Righteous"), based in the Pakistani part of Kashmir.

The attackers used AK-47 and M4 assault rifles and were dressed in military uniforms. Investigative agencies later found that one of the identified Pakistani terrorists behind the Pahalgam massacre was a former Pakistan Army Special Forces soldier. For this reason, Pakistan's involvement was obvious.

Indian pundits on local media suggested that the perpetrators wanted to draw international attention to Kashmir by planning the attack to coincide with the visit of US Vice President J.D. Vance to India and Narendra Modi to Saudi Arabia.

Russian experts and politicians, as always, were inclined to see Britain's hand in what was happening ("the English are messing things up" has become a typical explanation for the bad events happening in the world). For example, Vladimir Dzhabarov, deputy head of the Federation Council Committee on International Affairs, said that "the British need a new hot conflict between nuclear powers, in this case Pakistan and India, to shift the attention of the world community."

This statement is, to put it mildly, highly questionable not only because it is not supported by any evidence, but also because its logic is lame on both legs. The attempt to appeal to the fact that the conflict between India and Pakistan was started by the British, and that London is “trying to specifically destabilize the situation wherever possible” does not clarify the reasons for the existing conflict.

So far, we can state with complete certainty that the terrorist attack was carried out in such a way as to cause maximum indignation of the Indian nation. If its aim was to provoke India into retaliatory actions, then we can say that its organizers have succeeded to the fullest extent.

But why would Pakistan do this?

After all, the economic situation in Pakistan is far from the best, and military reserves, as has already been said, are also partially depleted due to secret supplies of shells and weapons to Ukraine. Why provoke a war you are not ready for?

The answer is simple: Pakistan's main ally, China, is interested in this.

India-China relations


Before substantiating the last statement, the author will write a few words about the relations between India and China.

Some laymen may feel that relations between India and China have become more stable and even friendly in recent times. With the resumption of the Kailash Mansarovar Yatra and border trade, officially described as “normalization of bilateral relations,” it may seem that tensions between the countries have been resolved.

But behind this outward politeness lies a much deeper dilemma for Beijing: what to do with India's rapidly growing economy?

It is no secret that India is actively developing its national economy, striving to become a major trading and economic power to counterbalance China. According to Bloomberg, by the end of the 2020s, India's economic growth rate will accelerate to 9%, while China's will slow down to 3,5%.

Indeed, the Chinese economy is showing a significant slowdown due to the effects of the COVID-19 pandemic and the outflow of foreign investment amid pressure from the United States. While the Indian economy, on the contrary, is growing at 6-7% per year. This is higher than that of China and the United States.

Last year, Izvestia, in its article “India is becoming an economic alternative to China,” rightly stated celebrated that

"Potential economic rivalry could exacerbate the difficult relations between India and China, in particular due to territorial disputes. The parties have been unable to divide the territory in the Himalayas the size of the Leningrad Region for half a century, which is periodically accompanied by violent armed clashes on the border. However, as experts note, economic friction is still too far away in the foreseeable future."


India is no longer seen as a regional player: it is now often mentioned as an alternative to China in headlines, boardrooms, and policy discussions. This process has accelerated dramatically in 2025, especially after the US launched a trade war with China.

As some American experts point out, one of the decisive factors allowing the United States to wage this tariff war is the belief that India exists as a viable alternative. India provides the strategic depth Washington needs to maintain pressure on Beijing. This is the challenge for China.

What should Beijing do in this situation? Create problems for India, but preferably with someone else's hands, since direct confrontation will cost China too much.

India is a rival that threatens China's position in the region, but it can also be a partner if the economic standoff with the US and the West becomes unbearable. Therefore, it is not in China's interests to attack India directly in one way or another. But creating problems for Delhi through Pakistan is a completely different matter.

What's next?


So, China is interested in the Indo-Pakistani conflict and even its escalation to a full-fledged war, but without the use of nuclear weapons. Beijing is not interested in India replacing China's "world factory", is not interested in the emergence of an alternative production site, and therefore Delhi needs to be weakened somehow, and the best way to do this is to drag it into an expensive war, to make it a "danger zone" for investment.

Diplomatically, China has cautiously backed Pakistan, calling on India to exercise restraint and conduct an "impartial investigation" immediately after the Pahalgam attack.

"As a loyal friend and reliable strategic partner, China fully understands Pakistan's security concerns and supports its efforts to safeguard its sovereignty and security interests,"
- said Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi during a telephone conversation with the head of the Pakistani Foreign Ministry.

And after the launch of Operation Sindoor, Beijing "expressed regret" over the Indian Air Force's strikes on targets in Pakistan.

In case of war between India and Pakistan, China, of course, will not participate in it directly, but will secretly support Islamabad. Because without proper support, Pakistan will not be able to resist New Delhi for a long time.

The ideal scenario for China would be an insufficiently prepared ground operation by India, which would lead to a protracted military conflict. For this reason, Pakistan will continue to try to provoke India into large-scale military actions. In turn, Delhi will try to limit the conflict as much as possible by using siege tactics – both with the help of political and economic levers (suspension of water flow through the Baglihar Dam on the Chenab River, an attempt to exert international pressure, etc.) and with the help of the military (limited strikes on military facilities). The Indian Armed Forces may either not begin a ground operation at all, or do so when Pakistan is already sufficiently exhausted.

However, it should be taken into account that such conflicts are often poorly managed, and any careless step can lead to disaster.
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  1. +1
    8 May 2025 04: 00
    There's a good fight brewing
    1. +1
      8 May 2025 04: 15
      It is clear here that if Pakistan loses the war, it may well use its last trump card. We need to get them to the negotiating table before it is too late.
      1. -1
        8 May 2025 08: 18
        Quote: USSR.
        It is clear here that if Pakistan loses the war, it may well use its last trump card. We need to get them to the negotiating table before it is too late.

        rather, this is another conflict for Kashmir, I think no one is going to wage a war there to seize the entire territory, and if so, let them fight, maybe attention will be diverted from the SVO.
    2. -2
      8 May 2025 08: 37
      Quote: Clever man
      There's a good fight brewing

      The Second World War also did not start in Europe, but in the East - Japan, China, the USA, Britain. And only then did Europe join in. (There is such a virus).
      1. +2
        8 May 2025 10: 41
        We can also recall the First World War.
        There is the famous one:
        "It's a strange feeling when you're an Australian from the British Empire sitting in the trenches of Belgium to defend France against the Germans who are helping the Austrians fighting Russia because of their support for Serbia."
      2. +3
        8 May 2025 10: 54
        But seriously, if the conflict starts to flare up on a large scale, then other countries can really join in. In order to put pressure on rivals through support. China can support Pakistan to weaken India's growing economy. The US will help India to weaken China's economy by drawing it into the conflict. Arab countries can start supporting Pakistan, seeing that for them this is an opportunity to raise the price of oil and increase their influence in the region - they can also start supporting Pakistan. Seeing this, Israel can start supporting India. And eventually, the whole world can be drawn into the conflict in a chain reaction. And everyone will forget that in the beginning, someone started it all because of some Kashmir.
      3. 0
        11 May 2025 16: 03
        Oh, and I thought it was September 1, 39 in Europe
        1. 0
          11 May 2025 17: 21
          Quote: Clever man
          Oh, and I thought it was September 1, 39 in Europe

          Well, if you are talking about Europe, then remember the Anschluss of Austria and the seizure of Czechoslovakia.
          But on July 7, 1937, Japan began a war with China, which lost 18 million people in this war.
          In your opinion, this is not the beginning of World War III.
          1. 0
            11 May 2025 18: 13
            All types of Anschluss are purely peaceful phenomena
            1. 0
              11 May 2025 18: 46
              Quote: Clever man
              All types of Anschluss are purely peaceful phenomena

              That's how "peacefully" Hitler captured the left wing, just as peacefully, the West captured Ukraine, and soon Greenland will peacefully become the USA. Everything is "peaceful".
  2. +8
    8 May 2025 04: 26
    The answer is simple: Pakistan's main ally, China, is interested in this.

    And this, excuse me, is a lie...and a brazen one at that...in light of Washington's hostile policy towards China, it is from there that such assertions are being pedaled.
    Terrorists are good precisely because they are used in the dark, without revealing to them those who ordered them... those who pay for the terrorist attack... a striking example is the terrorist attack in Crocus.
    So, all the sins will be blamed on China from Washington and London.
    1. +3
      8 May 2025 08: 40
      Quote: Lech from Android.
      So, all the sins will be blamed on China from Washington and London.

      He who orders the music, engages the bride. Without the Anglo-Saxons, not a single nasty thing happens in the world, for 500 years already.
      1. +1
        9 May 2025 23: 44
        carpenter (Dimon). Yesterday, 08:40. New. your - "...He who calls the tune, engages the bride. Without the Anglo-Saxons, not a single nasty thing has happened in the world, for 500 years..."

        You are right. The age-old question is "Who benefits!?" feel
        It is possible to immediately launch a solution to several issues. bully
        1. Switch the Islamic world to India.
        2. Make India more governable.
        3. Create a zone of wars with the possibility of nuclear wars near Russia and China.
        4. And at the same time try to arrange a collapse, for example -
        - India and Pakistan have been members of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO) since June 9, 2017.
        - India and China are part of the BRICS association. They are full members of the organization. 1
        In 2023, Pakistan also applied to join BRICS.

        R.S. So, let's repeat your thesis - "...Without the Anglo-Saxons, not a single nasty thing has happened in the world for 500 years..." bully . Pro. I wish RF would become a politician... feel
    2. +4
      8 May 2025 11: 03
      Quote: Lech from Android.
      The answer is simple: Pakistan's main ally, China, is interested in this.

      And this, excuse me, is a lie...and a brazen one at that...in light of Washington's hostile policy towards China, it is from there that such assertions are being pedaled.
      Terrorists are good precisely because they are used in the dark, without revealing to them those who ordered them... those who pay for the terrorist attack... a striking example is the terrorist attack in Crocus.
      So, all the sins will be blamed on China from Washington and London.

      I support your point of view. In my opinion, the author was too hasty in appointing China as the main stakeholder in this conflict. If Ukraine was twitching at Russia, then the basis for this was that it had been told that the entire Western world was with it and would support it in any manifestation of stupidity. Pakistan, on the other hand, is acting alone and it is clear to anyone that starting this adventure without guaranteed support is a suicidal undertaking.
      If we look at the situation from the point of view of damage to the BRICS economic association, it turns out that Russia is tied up through Ukraine, India through Pakistan, China is being hammered with a tariff war with the prospect of being drawn into the Taiwan showdown. Of the heavyweights of the organization, Brazil remains, where with some effort and the existing experience of organizing color revolutions on the part of the Anglo-Saxons, riots directed against Lula da Silva or border squabbles with a neighboring country can be organized. When all the main members of BRICS are busy with internal squabbles and squabbles with neighbors, there can be no talk of any unity of this organization, as there will be no major economic growth. In such a scenario, the Anglo-Saxons are the beneficiaries.
      So, to claim that China is behind the Indo-Pakistani crisis is not entirely correct, since there are other options anyway. winked
  3. +7
    8 May 2025 04: 29
    Will it lead to a nuclear war? No, it won't. However, what is important for us is that when we look at India-Pakistan, we see Russia-Ukraine. The creation of senseless and endless conflicts that cannot be won, but from which there is no way out is a classic example of colonial control of natives in the third capitalist world.
    Now we ourselves are playing the role of such wild and stupid natives.
    1. +1
      8 May 2025 04: 45
      Well, no, the separation of India and Pakistan was an incredible massacre, Armenians and Azerbaijanis live next to them in perfect harmony. To unite the native Ukrainians is a matter of six months of brainwashing on TV, if there is a desire, they will be told and shown the facts, how they were used by the Americans and Israelis, and we saved them. To prevent this from happening, the respected partners have drawn red lines around the inviolable structures of the Ukrainian state, while India will not be able to solve the problem of Pakistan even if the rest of the world disappears somewhere.
      1. +4
        8 May 2025 12: 21
        Quote from alexoff
        Well, no, the separation of India and Pakistan was an incredible massacre, Armenians and Azerbaijanis live next to them in perfect harmony. Uniting the native Ukrainians is a matter of six months of brainwashing on TV

        The comparison with Armenians/Azerbaijanis is not entirely correct. Both India and Pakistan are a conglomerate of different nations, tribes and even races. These are very unstable state formations that came into being during the planned withdrawal of the British. There were many local conflicts between different social and ethnic groups, but the Indo-Pakistani conflict itself was initially designed, but then it acquired a self-sustaining character regardless of external forces.
        To our great regret, we are going down the same path with Ukraine. But what I agree with is that we are still at the beginning of this path, and we are so close to the Ukrainians that everything can still be changed and corrected fairly quickly.
        1. 0
          8 May 2025 15: 54
          India and Pakistan were divided quite clearly along religious lines, and also very clearly according to a stupid map drawn by the British.
          Quote: Belisarius
          Unfortunately, we are going down the same path with Ukraine.

          Well, that's only if our leaders behave like that - no propaganda for Ukrainians, no plans for them. Although I'm sure that if the Rada with all its deputies had collapsed, then in Lvov they would have raised toasts for Putin. Because in Ukraine 90% of the population hates their leadership, and we are simply being made out to be scapegoats, since our leaders are real losers in international politics.
  4. -1
    8 May 2025 04: 39
    Quote: Belisarius
    Now we ourselves are playing the role of such wild and stupid natives.

    Divide and rule...
    The sacred principle of the descendants of the Roman Empire has reached us.
    Show us their names and faces...
    Name...name...reveal their names to us.
    "Lift my eyelids..."
  5. +2
    8 May 2025 04: 41
    India has been molded into a second China since the nineties, and India's trade balance is somehow very negative, and its exports are less than those of the UAE, where many Indians lay tiles. For many years, population growth has been eating up all economic growth. After all, Indians are radically different from the Japanese-Chinese-Koreans. As for the war - in both local conflicts of the last ten years, Indians had a noticeably worse score and got it from the less financed Pakistanis. It is logical to assume that the Indians will get it now, after which they will pretend that nothing happened until the next escalation in about five years. Indians today are not the same as they were in the seventies...
    1. 0
      8 May 2025 12: 24
      Quote from alexoff
      As for the war - in both local conflicts of the last ten years, the Indians had a noticeably worse score and got it from the less-funded Pakistanis

      From a purely military point of view, the most interesting thing is the grand air battle that both sides fought two days ago. It's a joke - over a hundred fighters participated. This battle will be analyzed for a long time. Of course, nothing can be said for sure yet - both sides are lying. But according to the first reports, the Pakistanis won.
      It will be very interesting to know the details.
      1. -1
        8 May 2025 15: 48
        What a lie, a battle with such a number of planes should have been accompanied by large losses, and the surrounding area would have been showered with missiles.
  6. +1
    8 May 2025 04: 44
    India has launched a military operation against Pakistan. Will it lead to a nuclear war?

    No. I don't have the guts...
    And all these public performances are a parody of ritual dances during the changing of the guard...
  7. +1
    8 May 2025 05: 09
    There are both external and internal factors in this conflict. And it is still unknown which of them is pushing towards a clash more. There are internal forces in each of these parties that are escalating the situation. And all this together can play a cruel joke.
  8. 0
    8 May 2025 05: 29
    In case of war between India and Pakistan
    It looks like everything has settled down there. There won't be any war. Thank God.
  9. +2
    8 May 2025 06: 46
    India has launched a military operation against Pakistan. Will it lead to a nuclear war?

    Of course they will shoot at each other. India will try to wear Pakistan down and most likely it will succeed. But it is unlikely to come to a nuclear war, it is disadvantageous for both sides and will come out badly for both.
    1. -2
      8 May 2025 07: 02
      India will try to wear Pakistan down and most likely it will succeed

      How is that? In shootouts between fighters? And on the ground, both those and the other people have a lot.
      1. +1
        8 May 2025 07: 06
        Dear Denis812, any war costs money and resources. The Indians simply have more of both.
        1. 0
          8 May 2025 07: 09
          Yeah. And the Pak and China have even more.
  10. +2
    8 May 2025 07: 14
    India replacing China as the assembly shop of the planet is a hollow argument and has absolutely no basis. What kind of Indian is a competitor to a Chinese ant? It's laughable. Singing, dancing and reproducing with taste, yes, they are ahead of the rest of the planet. But working 15 or more hours a day, that's not them.
    1. 0
      8 May 2025 08: 22
      Quote: Essex62
      But working 15 or more hours a day is not for them.

      their GDP is more than 2 times bigger than the Russian Federation, so... and they don't sell resources... there are plenty of people there who dance and work hard no worse than the Chinese... but salaries are an order of magnitude lower than the Chinese, which makes production much cheaper... and in China, too, 100 years ago, they would have said "there are only drug addicts in the country", so you shouldn't say that about countries with a billion-strong population...
      1. +1
        8 May 2025 10: 43
        Why are you comparing it to the Russian Federation? And China is absolutely not a suitable example. 350 million "in chocolate" with a billion slaves, so-so achievement. In India, most likely, the situation is the same. There, casteism is still thriving today.
        1. -3
          8 May 2025 10: 48
          Quote: Essex62
          Casteism still flourishes there today.

          the most important thing is that India has countless, cheap human resources... problem-free construction of factories and most importantly! The tax for investors investing in Indian startups has been cancelled in the summer of 2024. The measure simplifies direct foreign investment in the country, increases their attractiveness.
  11. +5
    8 May 2025 07: 22
    China, India - countries that are becoming world powers. Russia, a country through the efforts of oligarchs and the permanent president - is leaving the list of world powers. Just as Spain was once a world power, where the sun never set. So now Russia is a supplier of resources to China, India and Western Europe. And on the TV screen there are only Solovyovs, Skabeyevs, Babayans, Pushkovs, Anna Prokhorovs and Dobrovs.
    1. 0
      8 May 2025 10: 37
      India will never become a world power. The mentality cannot be changed.
      1. 0
        8 May 2025 14: 58
        The article says that it is already coming out. What does mentality have to do with it?
        1. -1
          8 May 2025 21: 02
          Do you believe everything written unconditionally? How do you live?
      2. +2
        8 May 2025 21: 31
        India is already a developed country; stories about a mentality in favor of the poor were once also said about Asia.
        1. 0
          8 May 2025 21: 34
          If the population there were reduced threefold, it would be developed. But for now, most of it is poor.
          1. +2
            9 May 2025 03: 51
            What does the poor have to do with it? And what does the population decline have to do with it? They have enough scientific personnel and highly skilled workers. And there are plenty of people to sew pants and shirts.
            1. -1
              9 May 2025 08: 54
              Well, yes. The staff there is very qualified. laughing
              1. 0
                10 May 2025 16: 08
                Yes, qualified Indian programmers, for example, are valued no worse than Chinese ones.
                1. 0
                  10 May 2025 17: 38
                  Are these the ones who study in GB and settle there permanently? Why is all the info about India so negative? There is a failure there and they screwed up here, and you keep repeating the propaganda mantras. People go there and see everything with their own eyes. We are the only slackers equal to them. A completely unorganized and undisciplined people. We will give them a hundred points in this when the pressure is on.
  12. IVZ
    +2
    8 May 2025 07: 24
    that one of the identified Pakistani terrorists behind the Pahalgam massacre was a former Pakistan Army Special Forces soldier. For this reason, Pakistan's involvement was obvious.
    Former fighter
    It's not obvious at all.
  13. -2
    8 May 2025 07: 28
    Most likely, the Englishwoman is screwing up again. Washington does not benefit from the transfer of production from China to India, it is dragging it to itself. The Chinese paradigm of the "wise monkey" can turn into a disaster in foreign relations. There is a good Russian proverb - water does not flow under a lying stone and a banana does not fall. The time of thousand-year empires has passed. The USSR is 70 years old, the USA is in a fever after 30.
  14. +2
    8 May 2025 07: 30
    Has Trump already offered aid in exchange for taking away natural resources from India and Pakistan? laughing
  15. +4
    8 May 2025 07: 59
    How twisted it all is. They forget that there are nationalists in power, "revolutionary conservatives" type. And these just need to let some blood, friend, friend. It will be possible without a nuclear war.
  16. 0
    8 May 2025 08: 16
    Nothing will happen. They'll shoot and then go their separate ways until next time.
  17. +2
    8 May 2025 10: 26
    India is not yet a competitor to China and will not be able to become one anytime soon. If it can at all. China has a planned economy, when the government chooses the direction of movement and transfers resources there. And in India there is a capitalist mess multiplied by local corruption. It will take decades for the Indians to rise to China's level - the West, despite all its demonstrations of friendliness, is in no hurry to share technologies.
    1. +1
      8 May 2025 21: 16
      Well, well, well. Chinese oligarchs, swollen with money, salute without question and turn precisely where the "K"PK points. Do you yourself believe in such nonsense? In China, capitalism is blatant, of the highest standard, and there is an agreement between the authorities - the overseer and the bourgeoisie. Together they successfully bend the proletariat, under communist slogans. And a planned economy can exist under capitalism.
      1. +3
        8 May 2025 21: 52
        A delegation from China came to our plant, from the city where our joint venture with the Chinese is located. In the delegation, a billionaire - $1,2 billion, according to Forbes, and a deputy mayor. The town is small by Chinese standards - 4 million mugs))) so, the billionaire didn't wag his tail in front of the deputy mayor, because he didn't have a tail))) he watched for three days)))
        1. -1
          9 May 2025 09: 11
          That's true. The Emperor's people have enough leverage to make even the richest man bo-bo. That's how it's always been. But the worker is under double pressure.
      2. 0
        9 May 2025 11: 03
        As practice shows, any "oligarch swollen with money" can be annulled by the authorities in a matter of minutes. With complete non-resistance from the rest) "Black iron rules over everything"
        1. 0
          9 May 2025 11: 08
          This is a fact and it has always been like this, the state and its repressive apparatus rule. And the oligarch can only steal and send the stolen goods "abroad". But, as recent events show, this is also not a guarantee of security. "Abroad" can also be dispossessed)))
          1. +2
            9 May 2025 16: 42
            And what if the oligarchs are the state? In our case, some oligarchs dispossessed others, less fortunate ones.
            1. 0
              9 May 2025 17: 40
              Are there any countries where oligarchs don't rule? They just don't get in people's faces.
              1. 0
                10 May 2025 08: 43
                There are not many of them left on the planet. Cuba, North Korea... Nothing else comes to mind. Even poor countries have their "oligarchs".
                The fact that they don't stick out doesn't mean that they don't stick to their guns. Power can be either moneybags, or socialist-communist, a society of equal people. There is no third option.
                1. +1
                  10 May 2025 10: 52
                  I want to disappoint you, socialist society was not a society of equals either. The opportunities of the director of a large plant or the secretary of the regional party committee were a little wider than those of a simple worker or collective farmer.
                  1. +1
                    10 May 2025 13: 40
                    Not at all upset. Become a director, take responsibility and you will get a little more perks than a worker. The problem of the late USSR is the deficit of quality consumer goods and that's it. In many ways it was artificially created by traders, whom the decrepit Proletarian government in the person of the Politburo stopped putting pressure on. Having invented the Great Community of the Soviet people and having forgotten about the class struggle. And about the need for jeans, tights and a sausage factory near every regional center. In all other respects it was a society with an equal start. And then according to abilities. Up to a certain point, of course. Then the profiteers and bureaucrats gradually began to rake in the dough, and then they completely restored capitalism.
                    1. +1
                      10 May 2025 14: 17
                      Well, the start was not quite equal. The son (daughter) of the plant director (the secretary of the regional committee) did not go to a vocational school, to become a turner. They went to Moscow, to MGIMO, MSU, well, to MISiS at worst. So, there was not much equality, it was simply forbidden to put it on public display. Well, and in Central Asia, they did not really hide.
                      1. 0
                        10 May 2025 17: 52
                        Nonsense. The son of the district committee secretary studied in the same class with me, kicked a ball and a puck and got beat up in boy fights. I didn't see any golden toilets at his house, and dad was driven around in a modest Volga, not a Bentley or Falcon.
                        And who, the son of an officer and a kindergarten teacher, prevented me from going to EVVAUL? And I didn't get in only because I didn't pass the school medical commission. Everything is fair. If you have the ability, you go to MGIMO, if not, you go to be a turner and earn, by the way, three times more than someone with a higher education and in a blue coat or with a microscope in a research institute. Of course, there was connections, but there were also plenty of children of peasants in universities.
                      2. 0
                        10 May 2025 18: 09
                        Anyone with brains and health could enter a military school (institute). But not everyone could enter MGIMO, or other privileged universities. And the careers of those who had a paw were much more fun than those who were from the peasantry.
                      3. 0
                        11 May 2025 10: 43
                        So what? This is present in any society. It is a norm of life. Only flaunting one's "origin" and dad's belonging to the "elite" in the country of the victorious proletariat was fraught with danger. I personally know a man from a remote Siberian village who graduated from MGIMO. True, he did not become a diplomat, he chose a career as a rocket scientist. He also graduated from Baumanka.
                      4. 0
                        11 May 2025 11: 49
                        These are isolated cases, but we are talking about a mass phenomenon. There were many plant directors (first secretaries of all levels) and, accordingly, children and grandchildren too. Even military schools had their own quotation, which anyone could enter, and which not everyone could enter.
                      5. 0
                        11 May 2025 13: 32
                        Anyone, if there were abilities. Why are you stuck on these secretaries and directors? There weren't many of them, and they earned certain privileges due to their responsibility for the result. But these privileges were minimal, in relation to the worker. Today, the overfed bourgeois is simply a "celestial being", not subject to prosecution (unless his own people screw him over) and can commit any lawlessness, spitting on all laws and codes. Because his power is the power of a moneybag. And the worker is in complete trouble, disenfranchised and voiceless.
                        Anyone could enter the district committee, there was only one cop sitting at the entrance, maybe even without a guard, or maybe just a granny guard. Try to just walk into any government building today...
                        I repeat, that society was not without its flaws, but it was many times fairer and more correct than wild capitalism with a feudal bias.
                        For example, there was no way whatsoever to “lay off” an employee.
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            11 May 2025 09: 15
            Quote: TermNachTER
            "Over the hills" they can also dispossess)))

            I'll tell you more. In Europe there are entire communities of professionals who specialize in gutting runaway hamsters) Who are first robbed until they have black hair, and then killed. By torture. Because until he dies, there is still a chance that the hamster hasn't given up everything)
            True, there is another way. The oligarch becomes a traitor, makes a deal with someone's intelligence. He is also gutted, but gently and slowly. Intelligence has the skills and capabilities to rob a person to poverty without killing him.
            True, when an oligarch is systematically degreased, he usually begins to resist. Then they suddenly hang themselves in the bathroom with a scarf) Having, of course, handed over everything beforehand. An oligarch can only do harm to the state, that's how capitalism works. But his ONLY hope is the state, which protects him. In order for an oligarch to be useful, he must have a lot of money and direct it partly for the good of the country. This is the maximum possible. And this is only possible in his native country. In another country, an oligarch will not be able to improve anything, even if he takes trillions out. Capitalism is terribly ineffective in principle... However, that's another story.
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              11 May 2025 09: 18
              I don’t know such details - I can’t say anything, but in general - the idea is correct.
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                11 May 2025 09: 25
                They can be traced, these details, if you pay attention to them, in ordinary, open information. "In the French outback, a gang of unknown people killed a family, seizing a modest mansion in a guarded village." You try to dig, and it turns out that the mansion is not so modest, and the surname is not French, and the bodies are terribly mutilated... You go further on the topic, and piece by piece... In general, everything is so, and extremely logically)
                The local crowd doesn't need competitors, especially rich ones. And they are traitors! Having betrayed their country, will they be loyal to this one?! Right now! And the locals understand more than that these scumbags will try to sell their country for the most profitable price by moving somewhere else. If they have money, it will allow them to betray even more, since money gives more opportunities. And who needs such neighbors?)
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                  11 May 2025 11: 42
                  Well, robberies that escalate into murder + torture are a fairly common occurrence, they happen everywhere. My 17 years of experience testifies to this unequivocally.
                  This is the fate of all the rich who skimp on their safety.
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              11 May 2025 10: 49
              That's why Abramovich and company have become completely fat, living with the impudent. And why shouldn't they work for the Anglo-Saxons, the organizers and leaders of global capitalism? They work for their own interests. And Bereza wasn't strangled by the impudent, there were other dissatisfied people and in a completely different country.
              Regarding the inefficiency of capitalism, I completely agree. hi
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                11 May 2025 11: 42
                Well, why BAB died is still being debated, but he had plenty of enemies.
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    8 May 2025 19: 44
    In short and to the point: the leaders of India and Pakistan are quite sane and predictable politicians, but with their own "cockroaches in their heads" of a nationalistic nature... However, the feeling of healthy genetic "farting", characteristic of the leaders of the opposing sides, will not allow them to transfer this conflict to the "nuclear phase".... As one respected politician said: India and Pakistan will measure their genitals without taking off their pants..... The spectacle is not so great...
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      9 May 2025 11: 01
      Religious. As is known, Muslims are capable of driving even Buddhist monks to mass murder.
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    9 May 2025 11: 00
    There is definitely logic in the author's assumption. We are not able to become a competitor to China in the economy. We have long since missed our chance. But India, of course, can. And India is also definitely capable of rolling Pakistan into a thin pancake. True, the Indians' weapons are definitely shitty, due to the exorbitant level of corruption, but the situation in Pakistan is no better. And India has many times more resources.
    What does this mean in the context of a conflict between nuclear powers? As soon as Pakistan begins to collapse, its restraint will disappear (why do we need a world without Pakistan?!) and nuclear weapons will be used immediately. Especially since power in Pakistan is extremely unstable, and military leaders are constantly devouring each other, declaring themselves presidents. Many - for an hour. In these conditions, a nuclear conflict allows the next president to strengthen his position... if he succeeds. And if he fails, there will be no one to regret...
    So yes - a nuclear conflict is more than possible. And besides everything else, it will lift the taboo on the use of nuclear weapons, which has been maintained so far. The situation is frankly terrible...