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Russia must "withdraw part of nuclear weapons from the state of readiness"

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3 On April, a group of experts from several countries presented its report “Building Mutual Security in the Euro-Atlantic Region” (Building Mutual Security in the Euro-Atlantic Region). Three dozen politicians and military men analyzed the current state of the strategic nuclear forces (SNF) of the leading countries of the world and drew conclusions about their prospects. The expert group was headed by former British Defense Minister D. Brown, Russian ex-foreign minister I. Ivanov, German diplomat V. Ischinger, and American politician S. Nann.


Russia must "withdraw part of nuclear weapons from the state of readiness"


First of all, the report notes the fact that there are many different problems in the world, primarily economic ones, but at the same time, issues that arose several decades ago remain on the agenda. Nuclear weapon in the current state and with the current trends of its development it costs the countries too much. So, in the coming years, the United States is going to spend more than 400 billions of dollars on the creation of new and improvement of old nuclear weapons; in the Russian budget, the same targets provide for up to 1,9 trillion rubles, and the UK will spend 25 billion pounds to replace only missiles for submarines. It is quite obvious that it is worth looking for ways to reduce these costs without compromising the defense capacity of countries.

The authors of the report state that, despite all the geopolitical processes of recent years, the overall vector of development of the strategic nuclear forces of the leading countries has remained the same and has not undergone major changes. In such circumstances, the strategy of guaranteed mutual destruction may contradict the necessary political partnership and a number of other processes. Experts believe the cause of current problems is a lack of trust between countries. Speaking of mutually beneficial cooperation, they continue to develop weapons, including nuclear ones, which, accordingly, affect international relations. Now it is possible to solve some of the existing problems with the help of the method proposed by experts. Its main idea is to create and maintain a dialogue process at the highest level, whose task will be to solve all the problems that arise.

Disclosing the proposed idea, the experts announced a list of six points, the observance of which will help facilitate negotiations and further reduction of nuclear arsenals. First of all, it is necessary to adjust the negotiation process so that it gives real results and helps to come to a common opinion without prejudice to the interests of one of the parties. The second item in the list is government support. For successful negotiation, the delegation must have the confidence of the government of the country. Otherwise, all consultations and discussions may be in vain. The third sentence implies the development of certain general principles, understanding of which will help to quickly agree on specific steps. For example, such a principle could be a revision of current concepts of ensuring state security in the light of recent innovations in the defense field or abandoning the idea of ​​nuclear weapons as the main instrument for deterring a likely adversary.

The fourth sentence is interesting in that it implies that it is not necessary to conclude solid international agreements. During the dialogue, general principles of further cooperation can be developed. Already on their basis, if necessary, it is possible to create new contracts. The fifth point of the proposed program concerns actions for several years ahead. Negotiations, agreements, etc. can gradually increase trust between countries and produce certain consequences, with the help of which it will be easier to carry out the next steps. In this way, in the coming 15 years, significant success will be achieved. Finally, a group of experts does not exclude the possibility of creating a special discussion body on a Euro-Atlantic scale. Such a forum can facilitate the negotiation process and optimize some diplomatic issues.

Experts see a certain risk in the current situation with strategic nuclear forces. The architecture of the SNF is such that the probability of an erroneous start of a nuclear war with the corresponding consequences remains. The only way to protect the world from such a development is the withdrawal of nuclear weapons from a state of constant readiness for use. However, with the existing views on his tasks, this does not look realistic. Nevertheless, the group of experts believes that it is precisely the refusal of the continued operational readiness of the SNF to help avoid catastrophic consequences, since the countries will have additional time to analyze the situation before the missile launch response.

As for tactical nuclear weapons (TNW), it also represents a danger, but of a different nature. Comparative simplicity and ease of use make such ammunition interesting for terrorist organizations. At the same time, the number of TNW in recent years has decreased slightly. The geopolitical processes in Europe do not allow countries to dispose of a large amount of such ammunition, which takes the form of a sustainable trend, vaguely reminiscent of the classic arms race. It also requires agreement between several countries, which will help to initiate a full-scale reduction of tactical nuclear weapons and, as a result, reduce the corresponding risks.

The report notes that the successful course of nuclear disarmament of the United States and Russia in the very near future can have a beneficial effect on a number of international issues. First of all, these countries will secure themselves. Secondly, in this case, we should expect an improvement in the situation in the Euro-Atlantic region. Finally, third countries that have recently acquired nuclear weapons or are preparing for this may abandon their research and design programs due to the lack of a corresponding threat from leading countries. To this end, the countries of the Euro-Atlantic region are invited to do their utmost to promote the processes of nuclear disarmament and to actively participate in it.



Continuing to offer their solutions to the problem, an international group of experts displays a regular list of measures designed to solve the problem of nuclear weapons in the Euro-Atlantic region. The proposed steps are as follows:
1. Russia and the United States undertake to withdraw part of the strategic nuclear forces from a state of readiness for the immediate use of weapons. The withdrawal conditions are proposed to be coordinated with the requirements of the START III contract;
2. Countries need to agree on some measures to build confidence in each other. For example, the United States could unilaterally agree to set aside patrol routes of submarines with strategic missiles at a certain distance from Russian territory;
3. Nuclear powers should create an agreed strategy for the development of their strategic nuclear forces. In other words, it is necessary to draw up a “road map”, according to which the missiles will be withdrawn from the state of readiness for an early launch. It is also necessary to discuss a number of other important issues relating to the course of disarmament;
4. Participation in negotiations of other countries of the Euro-Atlantic region possessing nuclear weapons. The United Kingdom and France may also join the negotiations and, possibly, enter into one of the treaties;
5. Ensure the transparency of their strategic nuclear forces for treaty partners. So, the United States or Russia could clarify the data provided earlier, as well as make this information more detailed. For example, it is possible to disclose information on the number of tactical weapons, their types and the distribution of units of the armed forces;
6. Together, to achieve a reduction in the number of tactical nuclear charges. Currently, a large number of such weapons is located in Europe, which accordingly affects the situation in the region. The removal and / or destruction of tactical ammunition will help reduce the threat of their use, as well as reduce the role of nuclear weapons in the policies of European states;
7. Create a plan for the next five years, according to which there will be a reduction in stocks of tactical nuclear weapons. First of all, it should concern the American stocks in Europe. However, the mutual reduction of the number of tactical nuclear weapons is implied.

Summing up, the group of experts has compiled an approximate chronology of the required actions, which, in its opinion, will lead to a noticeable reduction of nuclear weapons of all classes, as well as significantly reduce the possible risks. According to her, over the next five years, the nuclear powers should commit themselves to withdraw all strategic nuclear forces from a state of constant combat readiness. This is given a period of 10-15 years. At the same time, it is necessary to increase the degree of trust in each other. Also over the next five years, the United States must withdraw from European countries half of the tactical nuclear weapons stationed there. Russia should prepare for retaliatory measures against tactical nuclear weapons.

Over the next ten years, leading countries should continue to reduce the means of delivery on permanent duty, as well as monitor the status of foreign strategic nuclear forces. By the end of this period, France and the United Kingdom should be invited to the existing agreements and agree with them on the adoption of conditions regarding the withdrawal of all nuclear weapons from the state of permanent combat readiness.

It must be admitted that the views of the international group of experts in a number of issues, at least, do not agree with current geopolitical trends. In this regard, one should not expect such a development of events in which the leading countries of the Euro-Atlantic region will immediately begin to follow the instructions of the experts. On the contrary, some ways of solving current problems may cause misunderstanding or rejection by the military-political leadership of some countries. For example, the idea of ​​gradual removal of missiles from permanent duty and constant combat readiness openly contradicts the concept of their use adopted in all nuclear powers. It is now believed that the retaliation should follow within a few minutes after the attack was detected. The implementation of the experts' proposal, in turn, will not allow for timely response measures. Moreover, under certain circumstances, a successful first strike by an adversary may deprive a country that has fired missiles from permanent duty to respond.

It is worth noting that the reduction of the arsenals of the strategic nuclear forces in accordance with the START-III agreement is already underway. At the same time, the United States is ahead of Russia in the number of available carriers and combat units. According to recently published data, 792 ballistic missiles and also strategic bombers armed with nuclear warheads are currently on duty in the United States. The total number of warheads on these missiles is 1654. In Russia, in turn, only 492 of a carrier with 1480 combat units is deployed. Under the terms of the START III treaty, in the near future, countries should bring the number of deployed carriers to 700, and combat units to 1550 units.

As for tactical nuclear weapons, control over them now seems extremely difficult, if not impossible. In addition, most countries may not agree with such a proposal. The fact is that for the full tracking of tactical ammunition you will need to create some kind of special international organization that will check the depots and units. Since nuclear weapons are supposed to be used by the same units of military equipment as conventional shells, missiles, etc., this will result in the need to monitor all bases of the ground forces, air force and naval forces fleet. No country would do such a thing, since such actions - with little diplomatic effect - most directly hit the army's defense capabilities.

Nevertheless, it must be admitted that a number of proposals of the expert group are of interest and have good prospects. European countries possessing nuclear weapons really need to enter into international treaties, and not watch from the outside as the US and Russia negotiate and sign agreements. In this case, all nuclear powers will be in approximately equal conditions, and disarmament with a subsequent reduction of risks will go much more efficiently.



Igor KOROTCHENKO, editor-in-chief of the magazine “National Defense” comments on:

- The efforts of the US State Department related to Russia's involvement in the negotiation process to reduce nuclear weapons are “reinforced” by various kinds of expert reports. I don’t want to make any analogies, but in this case this thing deserves attention: in terms of making major foreign policy decisions in Russia.

We will continue to take a comprehensive approach to the reduction of nuclear weapons; no expert reports will have a significant impact on the policies of Russian ministries and departments involved in the development of the country's foreign policy.

In practical terms, negotiations on the reduction of tactical nuclear weapons can begin only if all tactical nuclear weapons are completely withdrawn from Europe to the United States. The second condition is the signing of legally binding documents that ensure that the United States refuses to deploy bases of interceptor missiles near Russian territory, so as not to create any threats to the functioning of our strategic nuclear forces in the future.

Any attempts to erode the negotiating positions of Russia for further reductions in nuclear weapons are absolutely unpromising. Since the methods of "soft power" that were used in previous periods by the US administration to induce the Russian military-political leadership to make certain decisions that do not meet Russian national interests, will not work at this stage.

Vladimir Putin, as a strong politician, as a world-class leader, is absolutely independent in making decisions on upholding our national priorities in the field of strategic offensive arms reduction. Therefore, the above tips and recommendations - no more than a concussion of air, with all, perhaps, respect for those people who have subscribed to this document.


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  1. fenix57
    fenix57 April 5 2013 06: 50 New
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    Oh do not rush RUSSIA, OH DO NOT HURRY .. ". Ensure transparency of their strategic nuclear forces for contract partners“- DPRK doesn’t really listen to all this. OR NOT SO. Maybe I’m mistaken ....?. hi
    1. Ruslan67
      Ruslan67 April 5 2013 06: 53 New
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      Quote: fenix57
      Maybe I'm wrong ....?.

      You are not mistaken hi Yes, and Russia does not seem to be in a hurry what
      1. esaul
        esaul April 5 2013 07: 33 New
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        Quote: Ruslan67
        Oh do not rush RUSSIA, OH DO NOT HURRY

        Salute guys hi
        Why spin, namesake? This is another tale about a white bull from our "friends". As soon as it becomes tight, they begin to talk about mutual reduction and, again, mischievously mean that Russia will really reduce. Since such appeals are repeated so often, then things in prosperous democracies are suture. If it were otherwise, then we would still be taught what is possible and what is down-wow ...!
        1. edge
          edge April 5 2013 07: 53 New
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          Quote: esaul
          This is another tale about a white bull from our "friends". As soon as it becomes tight, they begin to talk about mutual reduction and, again, mischievously mean that Russia will really reduce

          and they will safely pile up with the whole herd ........
          1. esaul
            esaul April 5 2013 08: 06 New
            +4
            Quote: hert
            and they will safely pile up with the whole herd ........

            That's right, colleague! hi
          2. Mikhail3
            Mikhail3 April 5 2013 17: 41 New
            +3
            Right now, the SGA and China, on completely anecdotal grounds for the "danger" of the DPRK for the SGA and the idiotic "dispute" between China and Japan, have concentrated enormous forces near our eastern borders. They could have jumped right now. Along the way, they hope for the admission of some kind of "experts" at least on some of our nuclear facilities. And they’re even breaking contracts, let's say something like that, on a blue eye ... It is necessary to transfer troops to Siberia and the Far East, that's what ...
            1. zvereok
              zvereok April 5 2013 22: 01 New
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              And what, China could well sacrifice Korea in nuclear smoke in exchange for Siberia under the Koreans (their age there too is about five years old, then the Chinese will go in and meet the starving population with their flowers) or we will bomb our cities with nuclear weapons in the hope of smoking occupants ?
        2. vilenich
          vilenich April 5 2013 08: 06 New
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          Valery, maybe I misunderstood something, but what kind of reduction is Russia talking about? Indeed, today in the Russian Federation there are 492 carriers with 1480 combat units, and according to the terms of the START III treaty, in the near future the number of deployed carriers should be increased to 700, and warheads to 1550 units. So on the contrary, you need to work hard to fulfill the terms of the Agreement. Let the States cut it. Or am I wrong?
          And the tales of the "experts" can be read and quietly flushed down the toilet!
          1. esaul
            esaul April 5 2013 08: 24 New
            +5
            Vitaly, welcome hi
            Quote: vilenich
            but what kind of reduction is Russia talking about?

            Vital, if the question is for me, then it is not an address. It needs to be addressed to states with intonation in the form of an emoticon fool
            Quote: vilenich
            So on the contrary, you need to work hard to fulfill the terms of the Agreement. Let the States cut it.

            So I - for being a colleague fellow
            Quote: vilenich
            And the tales of the "experts" can be read and quietly flushed down the toilet

            It is only necessary to clarify - the tales of the Pentagon "experts" in the toilet.
            With your position "I completely agree and support this comrade ...!" good
          2. vkz
            vkz April 5 2013 10: 54 New
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            As I understand it, this is about reducing tactical nuclear weapons.
          3. sasha127
            sasha127 April 5 2013 14: 15 New
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            Right, and still right.
        3. Vladimirets
          Vladimirets April 5 2013 08: 08 New
          +3
          Quote: esaul
          This is another tale about a white bull from our "friends". As soon as it becomes tight, they begin to talk about mutual reduction and, again, mischievously mean that Russia will really reduce

          Greetings, Valery. hi It is alarming that our sculpted overseas friends are very persistent in achieving their goals, which is called: not at the door, but at the window. Today they turn from the gate, and tomorrow? But tomorrow is just alarming.
          1. esaul
            esaul April 5 2013 08: 39 New
            +4
            Salute, Zhenya hi
            Quote: Vladimirets
            It is alarming that our sculpted overseas friends are very persistent in achieving their goals.

            You really can’t refuse this. This is partly a habit formed by an ingrained permissiveness complex. But, a significant decrease in the quality of state diplomacy and strategic thought has become noticeable ... Apparently, the consequences of the sexual revolution and the liberation of the morals of the 70 of the last century are evident. Drugs, alcohol, and other benefits that the states trumped at that time, how the achievements of their democracy did their work and, in big-time politics, idiots like Clinton, Nuland and others do their job ...
            Quote: Vladimirets
            Today they turn from the gate, and tomorrow?

            This cannot be allowed! And us with the tenacity of the minke whales are pushing all sorts of SASKI and others, calling for "rEvolution". These dolton are pushing us to a course that is destructive for Russia. To a greater extent, these are provocateurs or those who do not know what changes in political regimes are. Let them carefully look at Egypt, Tunisia, Libya, and other countries that have desired and many goodies at once. By the way - for Egypt, the loan requested from the EU in 4 billion is a bug, a matter of life and death! But the data on the gold reserves of Russia today

            The volume of international reserves of the Russian Federation as of March 29 2013 on a weekly basis, at the end of the specified date, it amounted to 527,6 billion dollars against 522,4 billion dollars on 22 on March this year, the Bank of Russia’s Department of External and Public Relations said today.

            Thus, the Bank of Russia gold and foreign exchange reserves increased over the reporting week by 5,2 billion dollars, or by 1,0%.

            The international reserves of the Russian Federation are highly liquid financial assets held by the Bank of Russia and the government of the Russian Federation. International reserves consist of assets in foreign currency, monetary gold, special drawing rights (SDR), a reserve position in the IMF and other reserve assets.
            1. Andrey57
              Andrey57 April 5 2013 09: 07 New
              +4
              Well, yes, yes, only a huge chunk of these gold reserves is in the form of "candy wrappers" - the treasurer of mattress covers, and not in the form of gold! For example, the Chinese are buying exactly how much gold can. hi
              1. esaul
                esaul April 5 2013 09: 24 New
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                Quote: Andrey57
                not in the form of gold!

                You learn to read ... Thinking.
                Quote: Andrey57
                The international reserves of the Russian Federation are highly liquid financial assets held by the Bank of Russia and the government of the Russian Federation.

                So-called candy wrappers, these may be shares of enterprises in the real sector of the economy. And almost all countries carry out similar practices.
                Quote: Andrey57
                not in the form of gold!

                In my opinion, Russian gold reserves are the fifth among the countries of the world. I could be wrong, but there is data - reluctant to rush into the search.
                Quote: Andrey57
                the Chinese are buying exactly how much gold can.

                With no less desire, they bought and buy "candy wrappers" because, I suspect that their blue dream is to present an impossible bill to the states in one day and, if not to bring them to their knees, then at least bend it properly laughing
                What about
                Quote: Andrey57
                buy as much as they can

                This is yes ... They have more reserves than ours. Maybe we would have the most presumptious today, if not for uniform robbery from the 70 of the last century to the 2000 of the year ...
            2. zvereok
              zvereok April 5 2013 22: 10 New
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              Here it must be said about the debts, which are more stocks, and everything is increasing. I'm not talking about public debt, of course, but there is a joke in every joke - Gazprom, the largest debtor in the country. Rosneft, is rapidly approaching it, after the purchase of TNCs.
            3. Shurik34RF
              Shurik34RF April 5 2013 23: 02 New
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              In the case of kipish, only gold remains, which is in the bins
        4. Ascetic
          Ascetic April 5 2013 10: 05 New
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          Quote: esaul
          Why spin, namesake? This is another tale about a white bull from our "friends".


          Good morning everyone! In the 90s and early 2000s, yes, experts actively "compared" Poplar with the Minutemans fool and made conclusions about the wretchedness and defenselessness of Russia. Now shout let's cut. Since we have become so miserable so why take a steam bath and conduct an information attack on this? It is very simple that the US strategic nuclear forces are becoming dilapidated and miserable, and we are actively developing new ICBMs and are putting them into armament. Fortunately, up to the 3 START deployed deployed we have room to grow. Next year there should be another new product from Solomonov, under which KAMAZ is already making a new "Platform". In principle, I won’t say much. There is a well-known article by Dmitry Terekhov (deputy chief editor of the journal “Opponent”, co-chair of the organization “Journalists of Russia”) which provides a brief analysis of the current state of Russian strategic nuclear forces and our opponents. There is no doubt in the reliability of the author’s information. Great text. And only one conclusion suggests itself by 2020. The United States will lose the position of a leading nuclear power, as was already planned in the mid-80s of the last century and if there had not been Perestroika KI and the collapse of the Union by 2000. they would be far behind us, primarily in terms of QUALITY of nuclear weapons. After all, starting from this time, they practically did not create anything new and significant, and Russia since 2008. gradually began to strengthen the QUALITY level of its strategic nuclear forces and PRN system. By 2020 if again there are no perestroika and liberal-democratic change of course, we can talk not only about complete parity with the United States in the strategic component, but, most importantly, even about the theoretical impossibility of delivering a disarming strike against us with any striking attack.
          article link
          1. DEMENTIY
            DEMENTIY April 5 2013 15: 45 New
            +1
            Thank you very much Stanislav for the link to the article. Very instructive reading. Recomend for everybody.
          2. Natalia
            Natalia April 5 2013 16: 27 New
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            Quote: Ascetic
            Good morning everyone! In the 90s and early 2000s, yes, experts actively "compared" Poplar with the Minutemans and drew conclusions about the wretchedness and defenselessness of Russia.

            I completely agree, and the article is cool good
            I put 10 pluses (+)
          3. Denis
            Denis April 5 2013 17: 45 New
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            Quote: Ascetic
            In the 90s and early 2000s, yes, experts actively “compared” Poplar with the Minutemans and drew conclusions about the wretchedness and defenselessness of Russia
            In those sad times, everyone who wanted (though not with anything!) To stand out somehow, walked along the simplest, but filthy path. We considered it our duty to at least spoil Russia. What horror stories and tales you just could not hear
            And today not all this evil spirits
            Link to the case! good
          4. mda
            mda April 5 2013 18: 35 New
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            Quote: Ascetic
            In the 90s and early 2000s, yes, experts actively "compared" Poplar with the Minutemans

            In the 90s, the "minutemans" were not yet completely out of date, but now they are really in a miserable state.
          5. esaul
            esaul April 5 2013 19: 22 New
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            Stanislav, good evening, my friend hi
            Quote: Ascetic
            Great text.

            I can say the same about your comments. Thanks for such comments, mate. drinks
        5. Geisenberg
          Geisenberg April 5 2013 11: 14 New
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          In theory, here I would show the middle finger to all this geyrop, as if in a tyhara laughing they say a damn interesting proposal, but is it going to seriously take something to do according to the program?
        6. 755962
          755962 April 5 2013 20: 45 New
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          Quote: esaul
          This is another tale about a white bull from our "friends".

          In general, the results of the analysis of possible American initiatives to launch the negotiation process regarding the reduction of tactical nuclear weapons show that they are one-sided in nature and are aimed at achieving US military-technical superiority. The proposals of the White Cottage do not provide for participation in the negotiation process of US nuclear allies (Britain and France). Possible reductions in tactical nuclear weapons are not considered in conjunction with the deployment of a global missile defense of the United States and Euro missile defense, the creation of non-nuclear ballistic missiles and SLBMs, the development of hypersonic aircraft and the problem of space militarization.

          http://pentagonus.ru
        7. GREAT RUSSIA
          GREAT RUSSIA 14 September 2013 15: 55 New
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          Let this west go to hell. It’s completely cut off for them to eat. What kind of reduction, now we just need to increase nuclear weapons. Let the West reduce and let the US and Israel be the first to do it. Fuck them and not nuclear weapons. China increases nuclear weapons, they we’re right under our noses. We’ll reduce the supply and they will take it for weakness. It’s not a pity that this West and all liberals and pedarasts in our country are quartering. They made me angry. I apologize for being rude in advance. By the way, no one knows what countries now except Myanmar ( Burma) develop nuclear weapons? Give a reference please.
    2. Kolya
      Kolya April 5 2013 07: 48 New
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      Reducing Russia's nuclear potential brings closer Western aggression!
      1. Mitek
        Mitek April 5 2013 08: 06 New
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        The Minutemans are slowly fading ... they are deploying a missile defense system. Let our Russian friends reduce your missiles ... Oh well, not a hunchbacked one or a scum fight drunk at the helm ... In my opinion, the proposal is designed for clinical idiots. And before it did, especially if you shove a billionaire in the form of humanitarian aid !!!
        1. Black Colonel
          Black Colonel April 5 2013 09: 22 New
          +4
          "... countries will have additional time to analyze the situation before the return launch of missiles." So after all, someone's first blow is implied. And don’t go to the grandmother, I know whose he will be am
        2. Vrungel78
          Vrungel78 April 5 2013 11: 00 New
          +3
          Quote: Mitek
          especially if you shove a billionaire in the form of humanitarian aid !!!

          And at school in the early 90's we were given canned goods as part of gamnonitarian assistance. Mother forbade taking
      2. Black Colonel
        Black Colonel April 5 2013 08: 56 New
        +6
        Defenselessness provokes an attack.
      3. Denis
        Denis April 5 2013 20: 54 New
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        Quote: Kohl

        Reducing Russia's nuclear potential brings closer Western aggression!
        Echoes the theme:
        HAPPY DIVING ON THE MIRACLE LAKE, FRIENDS!
        conducted by operator A. Nevsky and Co. on February 5, 1242
        and now, as if to a potential friend, don’t forget about that!
    3. Atlon
      Atlon April 5 2013 08: 22 New
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      Quote: fenix57
      Oh, don’t rush RUSSIA, OH DON’T HURRY .. ". To ensure the transparency of their strategic nuclear forces for contract partners"

      Another temptation for Russia. And in the "experts" then who? It is clear, as God’s day, that the West has overtaken in an arms race. It is only a myth that the USSR lost the Cold War. Lost everything. Only Russia is now on the rise, because it has "lost" earlier, and the West is stagnating, because after the "loss" of Russia, it did not stop, but took upon itself a load that it could not bear. Here is the result. The belly button got loose! And all sorts of "guarantees" from the United States such as: "The United States could unilaterally agree to divert submarine strategic missile patrol routes a certain distance from Russian territory." this is complete nonsense! Well, they will take (for a while), and then they will fail again, and what will you do with them? Nothing! Neutral waters. And we’ll cut missiles under this business. No, shy! Would you go in the ass, with your suggestions! Is it hard to contain strategic nuclear forces? Well, disarm! And we will give you guarantees. Want a non-aggression pact, not a question! You can even cut all your missiles, we don’t need your territories!
      1. dany
        dany April 5 2013 10: 26 New
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        "... we do not need your territories!" - Except Alaska!
        1. Vrungel78
          Vrungel78 April 5 2013 11: 05 New
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          Leave Alaska alone. This was not even sold by the Communists, but long before. At least a stupid demand worthy of Zhirinovsky at the dawn of the 90s.
          1. mda
            mda April 5 2013 18: 42 New
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            Quote: Vrungel78
            and long before

            But for some reason, it was not Russia that received the money from the sale, but some private person of small Britain
      2. Botanologist
        Botanologist April 5 2013 18: 03 New
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        Atlon
        And we will give you guarantees. Want a non-aggression pact, not a question!

        I recalled the proverb - If you have paranoia, then this does not mean that no one is following you bully
    4. vadimus
      vadimus April 5 2013 09: 35 New
      +3
      Everyone wants to indicate how to live! Are there too many teachers for one student? We will not be touched, we will not jump! As I understand it...
    5. Vrungel78
      Vrungel78 April 5 2013 10: 55 New
      -1
      I think that these conversations are started on the eve of the next election. Although they are far away, they need to attract the attention of the population, they say, here we are, we think about the country and about world peace.
    6. Mairos
      Mairos April 5 2013 11: 19 New
      +1
      What about China? For some reason, everyone forgot about him. He generally puts “with the device” on all such “initiatives” and strengthens his strategic nuclear forces. About tactical nuclear weapons, general stupidity, amers will simply withdraw from Europe, and we must reduce .. it's easy to fuck. Tactical nuclear weapons are the main means of deterring China within a decent framework, otherwise the Chinese simply cannot be stopped if trampled.
    7. mihai_md2003
      mihai_md2003 April 5 2013 11: 51 New
      +5
      It is convenient to first bend the enemy (partner), while violating all the agreements, and then try to consolidate this unfair position by documenting. Why to wait out a difficult time for yourself and then bend even more? Nevertheless, the Americans understand that they have bypassed us in conventional weapons quite significantly, and now they can (or in the near future will be able) to deal very significant damage with non-nuclear weapons. It all comes down to the fact that we have reduced our strategic nuclear forces to the level where they are guaranteed to be able to shoot him down with their missile defense and other things. Cool partners can’t say anything. No need to buy it passed already. The theory, more oil in exchange for guns does not work here. The Americans are so greedy that we cut all the guns in favor of a small one, just tidy up and take this very oil. So we need guns to protect the oil, even if it temporarily diverts resources.
      I think, depending on the decision on such serious things, it will be possible to judge how much our government really cares about the country's security, and whether it is dancing to the tune of the West. For there are no economic prerequisites for reduction now. Well, except that our scientists will invent some kind of TRANSCLUATOR and nuclear weapons will cease to be the last argument.
      1. mihai_md2003
        mihai_md2003 April 5 2013 11: 59 New
        +3
        First of all, it is necessary to establish a negotiation process so that it gives real results and helps to come to a common opinion, without prejudice to the interests of one of the parties.
        What the hell is this? Can someone explain to me in Russian? Why did not apply this principle when when America withdrew from missile defense? Or when the former Soviet republics joined NATO? Or that they consider us so stupid that you can write such a FIGURE and think that we will buy it?
        1. skeptic
          skeptic April 5 2013 14: 41 New
          +1
          Quote: mihai_md2003
          First of all, it is necessary to establish a negotiation process so that it gives real results and helps to come to a common opinion, without prejudice to the interests of one of the parties.


          That is, the Americans will saw their helicopters, planes, precision weapons, their missiles and their allies to the amount that Russia has, then it will be possible to negotiate with them.
    8. valton
      valton April 5 2013 17: 01 New
      0
      Maybe I'm wrong ....?.


      You are not mistaken at all! The first thing Russia should do is DO NOT TRUST! And the second is to remember that no matter what is done allegedly for "good purposes" WILL BE MANDATORY USED AGAINST RUSSIA! This is the centuries-honed and well-developed model of the Anglo-Saxons. It is time for Russia to come to an understanding of such tactics and it is possible to somehow use it to their advantage.
    9. Бондарь
      Бондарь April 5 2013 20: 40 New
      +2
      Good day to all!
      be afraid l, bringing gifts to the Indians! (WITH)
      The last nuclear warhead was manufactured in the United States in 1991. And that is all.

      Even more fun, the last atomic test explosion was in the 1992 year. And this despite the fact that the average age of the American nuclear warhead is more than 30 years, that is, many of them were produced and deployed before the Reagan presidency. Where is the certainty that these warheads are still able to explode?

      Or do you think that these systems are so stable that 30 years is not a long time for them? So you are very wrong. A thermonuclear device is an extremely complex thing that quickly degrades. Fissile materials decay, resulting in a decrease in the content of active material. Worse, the emissions emitted from this lead to the degradation of the remaining components of the system, from fuses to electronics.

      There is also a degradation of a different kind. Nuclear weapons scientists in America are aging and retiring at an alarming rate. By 2008, more than half of the nuclear experts at the US national nuclear laboratories were over 50 years old, and among those under fifty with very little know-how. And where does the know-how come from if nuclear charges have not been built for more than 20 years - and new ones are not designed even longer?

      US Defense Secretary Gates estimates that in a few years, approximately 3/4 of US nuclear scientists will reach retirement age and retire. But now the mess and ugliness in the US national laboratories have reached such a level that the government was forced to remove all fissile materials from the Los Alamos laboratory - they simply plundered them and sold them to unknown people.

      US nuclear warhead components are aging even faster than scientists. The United States no longer has the technological capabilities and the ability to produce some key elements for warheads. It got to the point that older charges serve as a source of spare parts to maintain others in any working condition.
      http://www.sdelanounih.ru/katastroficheskaya-degradaciya-strategicheskix-yaderny
      x-sil-syas-ssha /
    10. Ruslan_F38
      Ruslan_F38 13 September 2013 14: 51 New
      0
      Yes, our government’s discussion of the issue of reducing nuclear weapons is unacceptable in today's conditions. I recommend that experts suggest discussing this issue of reduction with Israel.
    11. renics
      renics 16 June 2014 22: 16 New
      0
      The article is not relevant at the moment and has lost all meaning behind the limitation of events, after a change in the political situation in the world.
  2. Reasonable, 2,3
    Reasonable, 2,3 April 5 2013 06: 53 New
    -11
    Again, the State Department. Is it registered on the site ?.
    1. Smirnov Vadim
      Smirnov Vadim April 5 2013 06: 55 New
      10
      I'm sorry, but you do not meet your nickname - "Reasonable" ...
      1. bask
        bask April 5 2013 07: 44 New
        +7
        Russia must "withdraw part of nuclear weapons from the state of readiness"

        NOW ONLY THE NUCLEAR TRIAD GUARANTEES - SAFETY AND
        Sovereignty of Russia.
        It is necessary to revive-create missiles of medium and short range ((China, France, England have them)))
        1. Boa kaa
          Boa kaa April 5 2013 10: 55 New
          +5
          Quote: bask

          It is necessary to revive-create missiles, medium and short range ((China, France, England have them)

          Gorby (!) "Oku" drank. It was a good rocket. Now "Iskander" we bring to mind. I heard (maybe they lie?) And on sea targets, such as AVU will work. This refers to one of the modifications.
      2. Reasonable, 2,3
        Reasonable, 2,3 April 5 2013 09: 07 New
        -1
        Damn, I have been waiting for this answer for a long time.
  3. Vanek
    Vanek April 5 2013 06: 55 New
    +6
    Experts consider the lack of trust between countries to be the cause of current problems.


    I did not read further. Since I believe that:

    At the head of the expert group were former British Secretary of Defense D. Brown, [i] Russian ex-Minister of Foreign Affairs I. Ivanov [/ i], немецкий diplomat W. Ishinger and American politician S. Nunn


    They cannot be trusted !!!
    1. Ustas
      Ustas April 5 2013 07: 14 New
      +4
      a group of experts from several countries of the world .... Russian ex-Minister of Foreign Affairs I. Ivanov

      How can this nest, a spy of Western influence, I. Ivanov be an expert. All his attempts are aimed at harming and destroying Russia.
    2. sashka
      sashka April 5 2013 07: 49 New
      -6
      Quote: Vanek
      I did not read further. Since I believe that:

      Quote: Vanek
      They cannot be trusted !!!

      And "we’ll" get it. Anything they promise will do everything .. Very wise Vanya.
    3. vilenich
      vilenich April 5 2013 08: 10 New
      +4
      Quote: Vanek
      I did not read further.

      And in vain! The most interesting is written at the end!
      You can quote only one phrase:
      Any attempts to erode Russia's negotiating positions on a further reduction of nuclear weapons are absolutely hopeless.
    4. Nitup
      Nitup April 5 2013 11: 54 New
      +1
      And this traitor Igor Ivanov also does not cause any trust
      1. Reasonable, 2,3
        Reasonable, 2,3 April 5 2013 14: 38 New
        0
        Alyo-Ivanov is a cool man. Personally familiar.
        1. Nitup
          Nitup April 5 2013 21: 06 New
          0
          Not ale, what you know doesn’t say anything about him
  4. Belogor
    Belogor April 5 2013 06: 55 New
    +2
    Oh, how many experts in the world have divorced, but for some reason, on closer inspection, it hurts a lot of them Russophobia or pour water on the wrong mill
  5. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
    Andrei from Chelyabinsk April 5 2013 06: 56 New
    +4
    Russia must “withdraw a part of nuclear weapons

    Russia owes nothing to anyone.
    Although, if the United States puts its aircraft carriers on the joke, sends three-quarters of strategic and tactical aircraft to scrap, reduce the armed forces to half a million people, disband the National Guard, then ... we’ll think yes
    1. vilenich
      vilenich April 5 2013 08: 20 New
      0
      Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
      Although, if the United States puts its aircraft carriers on the joke, sends three-quarters of strategic and tactical aircraft to scrap, reduce the armed forces to half a million people, disband the National Guard, then ... we’ll think

      It is also necessary to take into account the armed forces of European countries!
      1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
        Andrei from Chelyabinsk April 5 2013 09: 22 New
        +1
        Quote: vilenich
        It is also necessary to take into account the armed forces of European countries!

        ... let’s think and say that we need to take into account the armed forces of European countries, and China and Japan. So - call me, but we still can’t shrink laughing
    2. Atlon
      Atlon April 5 2013 08: 30 New
      +5
      Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
      Although, if the United States puts its aircraft carriers on the joke, sends three-quarters of strategic and tactical aircraft to scrap, reduce the armed forces to half a million people, disband the National Guard, then ... we’ll think

      What is there to think? If they do all this, I propose to sign a large non-aggression treaty, and on guarantees of Russian defense for the United States if Korea, Syria, Iran or aliens attack the United States! And also in case of landing of Somali pirates on the coast of Miami ...;)
      1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
        Andrei from Chelyabinsk April 5 2013 09: 27 New
        +4
        Well, yes, and then it will be necessary to deploy their military bases in Washington and so on. At the same time, we will help them observe the rights of African-Americans and sexual minorities there.
    3. Black Colonel
      Black Colonel April 5 2013 09: 10 New
      +1
      To begin with, at least in the form of a gesture of goodwill, they brought their nuclear weapons to the territory of the United States, demonstrating the truth of their good intentions.
      1. Boa kaa
        Boa kaa April 5 2013 11: 10 New
        +3
        Quote: Black Colonel
        brought their YS to the United States, demonstrating the truth of their good intentions

        We offer them years of 10 negotiations. They are not what! Although they know that Britain, France, Israel and some others have nuclear warheads of the battlefield.
        Here, the task is different: to drag Russia into a new arms race, after we have reduced TNW, we need to stop something with their precision weapons. And at the same time, restoring nuclear weapons and dragging a race on precision weapons would not be enough a single gold reserve of the country.
        We have already passed this ...
  6. dmitreach
    dmitreach April 5 2013 07: 00 New
    +2
    the above tips and tricks - nothing more than a concussion

    Igor Korotchenko knows what he is saying. It’s a pity that the status does not allow one to say harsher. am
    1. esaul
      esaul April 5 2013 07: 35 New
      +1
      Quote: dmitreach
      Igor Korotchenko knows what he is saying. It’s a pity the status doesn’t allow one to say harsher

      Salute, Dmitry hi Keep good
  7. sashka
    sashka April 5 2013 07: 01 New
    -34
    "Vladimir Putin, as a strong politician, as a world-class leader, is absolutely independent in making decisions on upholding our national priorities"
    Who came up with such crap ?? How to say so and do it. He’s a "personal" guy. Even on the “Kalina” was not afraid .. Well, hand over the Army, like two fingers on the asphalt. The Rockefellers did not fear the “guarantor” of the public domain and “independence,” to sell the oil field.
    1. Vanek
      Vanek April 5 2013 07: 10 New
      +9
      You are just a minus.
      1. sashka
        sashka April 5 2013 07: 25 New
        -9
        Quote: Vanek
        You are just a minus.

        So what ? Will pensions, birth rates and defenses increase from this? What's the catch? Well minus and minus. I’ll put you a plus five times ...))) "Above" will not become .. In any sense.
        1. Vanek
          Vanek April 5 2013 07: 38 New
          10
          You live in Russia. Russia is the house. The president is the head of this house. And say that:

          "Vladimir Putin, as a strong politician, as a world-class leader, is absolutely independent in making decisions on upholding our national priorities"

          This is crap.

          I'm sorry here. Minus earned.
          1. Army1
            Army1 April 5 2013 08: 23 New
            +2
            In principle, it is yes, but there are places in Russia and there are more of them than migrants in Moscow, where people have 5 salaries. And on the train, a man, he went home from the North to earn money, he didn’t see his family for 3 months, but what should I do to live, do I have to dress and feed my child? The wife, him, she is the postman salary of 3 thousand !!!!!! It’s bad for a country like RUSSIA.
            Maybe Putin has become tougher in foreign policy lately: remember how he was for J. I ran Bush, it was sickening to watch, after 2008 I even understood what was happening, damn it. But in domestic politics, to put it mildly, it is not ideal. The guys after Moscow are also Russia, as it were.
            1. Army1
              Army1 April 5 2013 08: 42 New
              +2
              No, but who doesn't like what? What isn’t it?
              1. Boa kaa
                Boa kaa April 5 2013 12: 51 New
                +5
                Quote: Army1
                No, and who do not like?

                I do not like! To understand what happened and what became of Russia, see A. Karaulov’s films about V.V. Putin's There are facts, not emotions.
                Sergey, the attitude towards the leader of the country should be “constructive criticism”, and not a bare oha!
                1. Army1
                  Army1 April 5 2013 13: 32 New
                  +1
                  This is understandable, why in 13 years of his reign we sell oil, gas and military equipment and all. Moreover, we carry pipes through the seas, and in some villages they still heat wood with firewood.
                  here is the link where Putin is bad:
                  http://russiancivilization.blogspot.ru/2012/01/blog-post_3210.html
                  And here is a good one:
                  http://backart.ru/video/otechestvennoe/12-let-pri-putine-dostizheniya-rossii--23
                  5.html
                  Personally, I am not an ardent opponent of Putin, but I disagree on many issues.
                  Why does he let you steal? Why do we buy from an ordinary toy pistol to Boeing aircraft, thereby raising the economy of other countries.
                  Maybe the Russian president needs to be tougher, more demanding. Wherever you spit, they steal everywhere! And who suffers from this? The same Chubais, why free?
                  1. mda
                    mda April 5 2013 18: 54 New
                    0
                    Quote: Army1
                    for 13 years of his reign we sell oil

                    http://www.kaig.ru/str67.pdf
            2. esaul
              esaul April 5 2013 08: 59 New
              +4
              Quote: Army1
              : remember how he is for J. I ran Bush, it was sickening to watch

              Very interesting to see. Give me a link, please. And it looks like a banal trolling, colleague. Obi-and-bottom for you ...
              Quote: Army1
              And on the train, a man, he went home from the North to earn money, the 3 family did not see for a month, but what to do, do you need to dress and feed the child? The wife, him, she is the postman salary 3 thousand !!!!!! It’s bad for a country like RUSSIA.

              Have you tried to look at this "catastrophic" situation from a different angle? Maybe that's why this man’s wife is sitting at home, raising children and looking after work to distract herself from 2-3 hours a day (a neighbor with her children will sit) from education. And she feels well knowing that the breadwinner will bring old grandmothers from the north and everyone will live, live and make good, until he leaves for the next shift. And in occasion - "3 of the month did not see the family" - not even funny. Of course, I want to wallow on the couch, stare at the drawer, pat the kids on the head and so that the wife is “forever naked nearby,” as the song says ... But, will you respect yourself for this? But do you consider it obligatory to feed your family - be kind - be ready for inconvenience ... It is interesting in whose head this interpretation of the situation was born - in your head or in the head of a man? If in his head (which I doubt), then this does not paint the man - breadwinner. And if in yours then this is a juggling in the style of Zyuganov’s gop company. What, the same, - does not paint.
              1. Army1
                Army1 April 5 2013 12: 55 New
                0
                Quote: esaul
                Have you tried to look at this "catastrophic" situation from a different angle? Maybe that's why the wife of this man and sits at home, educates children and looked after his work to be distracted by only 2-3 hours a day

                Hah Take off your pink glasses, "I looked after my work to be distracted for only 2-3 hours a day." I want to say that an elementary suit for a child at school costs more than 3 thousand, and the child goes to the 1st grade, do you know what expenses are ???
                Valery, unfortunately, we are far from the same Norway, which may well be called a raw materials appendage. And your fantasies about a successful life do not fit the Russian middle class. We must look at everything really !!!
                Guess what the salary of the DOCTOR in the Krasnodar Territory? What is the pension for the elderly? Do you even live on what planet? If someone in Moscow receives 50-100 thousand rubles, then somehow they don’t care about Putin. And you go to the periphery, I'm afraid you can’t stand it.
                All the best.
                1. ia-ai00
                  ia-ai00 April 5 2013 20: 32 New
                  0
                  And in your words there is truth! I didn’t want to comment on you, but the phrase below is
                  You're lying!!! Here on the forum they say that people do not get less than 30000 ...
                  I was outraged. My daughter, a doctor with higher education, tried to find a job in Russia under the resettlement program ... she was guaranteed a salary of 10 thousand rubles, the same as in Kazakhstan! Now, apparently, this "family" student is studying at a university, receiving a second higher education - a civil engineer ... So a lot depends on a person, but if my husband and I did not help her, neither the first "higher" nor the second, she would not to see!
              2. ia-ai00
                ia-ai00 April 5 2013 20: 23 New
                0
                And in your words there is truth. “No water flows under a lying stone,” no one will bring on a “saucer”. Although I was not a woman even in these times, but under the USSR, in order to get an apartment at the enterprise, I was forced to get another specialty at the university without “being separated from production”, so that I could go to another unit within the enterprise (there was a conflict with the boss, and the apartment really needed to get). It was very hard, 6 years 4 times a week after work I went to classes at the institute, + semester, control, laboratory + daughter schoolgirl. And I wanted the same "make friends" with the sofa, but the goal was set - and - GOT an apartment!
            3. Atrix
              Atrix April 5 2013 10: 05 New
              -8
              Quote: Army1
              Russia and there are more of them than migrants in Moscow, where people have 5 salaries.

              You're lying!!! Here on the forum they say that people less than 30000 do not receive laughing And Russia lives better than in Norway, people are much richer than the Norwegians. You are probably an agent of Western influence am
            4. Vladimirets
              Vladimirets April 5 2013 12: 35 New
              +2
              Quote: Army1
              And on the train, a man, he went home from the North to earn money, the 3 family did not see for a month, but what to do, do you need to dress and feed the child? The wife, him, she is the postman salary 3 thousand !!!!!! It’s bad for a country like RUSSIA.

              My parents left the Union during the Union, earn money, and my grandmother worked on a large land on a collective farm for a penny. At the same time, more recently, the program was watched about the Chinese, how they wait at the station for a train for a week to leave for the next couple of months to collect some kind of harvest, and so all their lives. So this is not an example.
          2. rennim
            rennim April 5 2013 09: 32 New
            0
            ]You live in Russia. Russia is the house. The president is the head of this house.

            The president is not the head of the house .... The head of the house is the Russian people. And the president is just a manager hired by the people ... under a contract for 6 years. And if he doesn’t manage ... and meets the interests of the employer (people), he will be relieved of his duties. This practice and attitude towards presidents around the world ..
        2. Ascetic
          Ascetic April 5 2013 10: 48 New
          +8
          Quote: Sasha
          Will pensions, birth rates and defenses increase from this? What's the catch?


          Look, people didn’t live in Yugoslavia in 1990, drank a cherry, in Libya they cruised like butter in butter with cruel Muammar, there were pensions and benefits, even the Tuaregs were left to behave quietly at the borders (doesn’t it remind anything of Chechnya?) In Syria the same under the bloody Assad lived no worse than in the Union and where is all this now? What increased pensions and birth rates? But they didn’t “hand over the army” and they didn’t let the Rockefellers. You don’t have to measure everything with sausage, you’ve already gone through perestroika, as a result of neither the army nor the sausage, now I look many have already begun to speak with the lips of Prokhorov that defense costs should not exceed the costs of health and education .. Well, well, in a Shiite village in Syria it’s tell us where people pray that the Russian army collapsed by Putin comes and finally brings order there, because they have no one else to hope for. Still, our ancestors were smarter than us. when in the 60s and 70s they said - if only there would be no war, but we could endure everything else. Well, we were led to sneakers like savages, but to Western temptations, and semi-chemical sausages of 20 varieties, that’s the country’s crap, now it’s Putin’s whole house ... it’s ruining it and ruining it, soon it’s almost like Brezhnev’s power will ruin the country at the direction of " personal "guy still can’t do anything .. It seems like an impossible task for him, you need to change to a more efficient and advanced one, then corruption will disappear, taxes will be collected as in the civilized West, education and health care expenses will increase, defense will not be needed in rd round will share the joy with friends primuschie us to his manger, and generally begin to live according to their standartam..Bylo already 500dney and Gaidar's liberal manna and it became horosho..Tolko here now

      2. Atlon
        Atlon April 5 2013 08: 31 New
        +1
        Quote: Vanek
        You are just a minus.

        Not just that, but also a downgrade of 100 units. Well, minus too, of course.
    2. esaul
      esaul April 5 2013 07: 40 New
      +7
      Quote: Sasha
      As they say, it will do so.

      Do not judge by yourself, Sasha. They told you - you and the visor. And you are openly delirious, believing that everyone else is the same. Your "arguments" are not new and two hundred times intertwined by people like you.
    3. tungus
      tungus April 5 2013 07: 49 New
      11
      Quote: Sasha
      I’m not afraid to sell the oil fields to the Rockefellers

      Can you give more details? What kind of deposit did he sell?
      And about the "surrender of the army" ...
      If he wanted to hand over something, then Russia would no longer be there. Do you remember the situation in our country in the 1999 year? The collapse of Russia was considered by most experts as an already held event. However, Putin diverted the country from this abyss. And it was with him that the rearmament of the army began, and the restoration of its combat readiness. And he returned most of the oil companies to the state. And he returned the authority of Russia in international affairs, we stopped following the instructions of the State Department, and began to defend national interests.
      I'm not talking about such a "trifle" as the destruction of separatism in Chechnya. It was he who put an end to gangster lawlessness in this territory, which at that time was de facto independent of Russia. Our houses are no longer blown up, and citizens are not taken hostage.
      Probably not everything goes smoothly with Putin. There are miscalculations. But only he who does nothing is not mistaken. And about independence in his decision-making ... If this were not so, then our Western friends would not come out with foam, and would not try to arrange a coup with white-tape hamsters.
      So, in vain you are so ...
      1. sashka
        sashka April 5 2013 07: 57 New
        -8
        Quote: tungus
        Can you give more details? What kind of deposit did he sell?

        More details in the News. Well, about the Army .. Surname Serdyukov does not tell you anything? And the "guarantor" as the Supreme Commander is known. But he really doesn’t know about it ..
        Question And what happened smoothly? And at the same time "good", for twenty years? He raised a generation who do not know their History. I do not think this is a plus.
        1. vilenich
          vilenich April 5 2013 08: 27 New
          +2
          Quote: Sasha
          . And what happened smoothly?

          Yes, of course it is possible to scrape dirt in the corners and find slops! But the main vector is positive and this cannot be denied!
      2. click80
        click80 April 5 2013 08: 01 New
        +2
        Quote: tungus
        Can you give more details? What kind of deposit did he sell?

        probably talking about it:
        Rockefeller Oil Company, controlled by Stephen Clark Rockefeller, has signed an agreement to purchase TNI Group (Tekhneftinvest) oil company from VTB State Bank. This was reported by the Kommersant newspaper with reference to sources familiar with the parameters of the transaction. The deal has not yet been finalized, its amount is about a billion dollars.
        1. esaul
          esaul April 5 2013 08: 15 New
          +3
          Quote: click80
          probably talking about it:

          hi That's right, colleague. This is what Sashka meant. I personally have nothing in the spirit - “They sell their homeland” - I don’t see it. the news item contains
          Quote: click80
          Final deal not yet closed
          hinting at a decision that is behind Putin (how to give a drink). And the fact that he does nothing without tangible benefits for the country has already been proved. Well, the practice in cases like this deal is absolutely generally accepted as allows the same pensions to increase and raise the same birth rate. According to the latest news, the construction of 30-MODERN PERINATAL CENTERS is planned in Russia. So, SASKINA’s whim is from impotence and scarcity of facts.
          I would also add that the indicated field has a very limited resource and cannot claim strategic status.
          1. sashka
            sashka April 5 2013 08: 25 New
            -9
            Quote: esaul
            I personally have nothing in the spirit - "They sell their homeland" - I don’t see

            Well, you know .. It's even worse than I thought of you.
            1. esaul
              esaul April 5 2013 09: 07 New
              +6
              Quote: Sasha
              Well, you know .. It's even worse than I thought of you.

              Sasha, we are not talking about each other - not a better opinion ... Do you really think I will tear my hair out of my grief? I now consider that your position is a betrayal of the interests of Russia, but it is clumsily and bashfully disguised as a patriot mask.
            2. sashka
              sashka April 5 2013 09: 18 New
              -2
              The American Rockefeller Oil Company, owned by Stephen Clark Rockefeller, bought the TNI Group oil company from VTB for a billion dollars, Kommersant writes.
              TNI is developing seven sites in the Yamalo-Nenets and Khanty-Mansi Autonomous Districts with a total oil volume of 180 million tons and 19,3 billion cubic meters of natural gas. Licenses expire in 2025.
              According to the publication, VTB is the main creditor of TNI, whose debt to the bank is almost $ 750 million.
              There is nothing to add .. The plot is famously twisted. And where are you from?
              1. Ascetic
                Ascetic April 5 2013 15: 43 New
                +6
                Quote: Sasha
                According to the publication, VTB is the main creditor of TNI, whose debt to the bank is almost $ 750 million.


                EMPTY WELLS AND FULL POCKETS OF FEDOR KHOROSHILOV
                DOES YANGPUR AND TEKHNEFTINVEST HAVE OIL

                As for Tekhnefteinvest OJSC, which holds licenses for the Palnikovsky and Central Tarkosalinsky subsoil blocks, in addition to other significant violations identified during the audit, it turned out that the company was drilling “dry” wells. That is, part of the wells either did not give an influx of oil at all, or gave an influx of groundwater with an oil content of only 0,1%. A number of wells owned by the company are in conservation. Based on the results of the audit of both companies, Rosprirodnadzor recommended that Rosnedram revoke its licenses from subsoil users-violators.
                What will happen to Yangpur and Tekhneftinvest tomorrow, where there may not be oil? And most importantly, what does the state get as a result of such "conscientious" exploitation of deposits?
                link

                Tekhneftinvest does not disclose information on reserves and production. The Yangpur website, which owns the rights to develop the Izvestinsky site in the Yamalo-Nenets Autonomous Okrug, says that in 2008 its annual production was to reach 304 tons of oil. Production of Tekhnefteinvest itself, according to the Oil and Gas Vertical, in 000 amounted to 2008 tons. The company holds licenses for the Salym site in the Khanty-Mansi Autonomous Okrug and the Central Tarkosalinsky and Palnikovsky fields in the Yamal Peninsula.
                link

                "It is worrying that none of the Russian oil industry workers, despite the region’s attractiveness and good reserves, I’m not interested in Tekhneftinvest, ”said Kryukov. At the same time, the expert added that if the parameters of the plots are higher than the declared ones, or if new deposits are discovered on the plots, the investment may turn out to be successful.
                link

                Khoroshilov threw VTB a billion, overestimating the true reserves of the fields, but actually spent it stupidly for the sake of drilling dry wells. He seems to be under investigation now, and as you can see, the inflated assets of the company didn’t attract anyone from "their" oligarchs. What will the strangers benefit from this, let’s see .. But VTB returned the loan .. but who in VTB itself was involved in this fraudulent loan .. if you couldn’t give anything to Khoroshilov with beautiful eyes .. he repatriated the well-known case to who needs it.
                One thing is not clear why Rockefeller these ruined deposits? After all, in staff like a blindfold on shale oil and gas themselves are sitting with indescribable income and export in the future outshining the Saudis? laughing
                1. Ascetic
                  Ascetic April 5 2013 16: 00 New
                  +3
                  Quote: Ascetic
                  One thing is not clear why Rockefeller these ruined deposits?


                  Although if you accept the arguments of the doctor of political sciences, full member of the Academy of Geopolitical Problems V. Pavlenko. set out by him in the article
                  The Big Game of the Rothschilds and Rockefellers - in the light and in the shadow on faith, the situation with this deal is a little clearer in the light of the foregoing.

                  What was plundered in the former USSR, America was enough for twenty years. And again, the state debt overcame, and again the States - “at the last line” (16 trillion dollars of total debt - this is not one annual budget).
                  What should the Rockefellers do if the US does not? Brzezinski, in his new book Strategic Vision: America and the Crisis of Global Power (published in February 2012), explicitly states that the United States today resembles the USSR before its collapse and considers two options for global development - with or without American leadership, that is, if you call a spade a spade, without the United States.
                  In addition to the crisis in the eurozone, the massive exodus from Wall Street of top managers of large financial companies and corporations, which began in the spring of 2012, strains the global situation. (These “cadres” in the financial space and on banking areas are well oriented both day and night: they know when, where and what it smells like and where, with what smell and how quickly to run).
                  Just in case, Rockefellers are now buying land in Argentina and Chile. But throwing a white flag (or a towel on the ropes) seems to be considered premature.
                  The Rothschilds, in turn, are pressing.
                  In the USA, the Rothschild’s creature is B. Obama: in June 2006 he was introduced to the bosses of the Democratic Party by none other than J. Soros, the closest associate of the Rothschilds.
                  In Russia, the Rothschilds control the “family” that ran to their side under Yeltsin’s president; Voloshin plays a key role in advancing her political interests. They also have a common business with the oligarch Deripaska, and through it with the Chubais creatures - the oligarchs Potanin and Prokhorov (it is from here that the legs and horns of all the “orange”, “snowy” and “swamp” street protests in Moscow grow).
                  Chubais is the most cunning of all: he has connections with the Rothschilds (through former US Treasury Secretary L. Summers, who heads the National Economic Council in America), and with the Rockefellers - he is a member of the board of directors of the JP Morgan Chase global bank. The goal is simple and clear: in any case, stay afloat - and in fact "floats", "does not sink"!
                  1. Ascetic
                    Ascetic April 5 2013 16: 06 New
                    +4
                    The Last Frontier of the Rockefellers - Putin's Russia
                    Having renewed the strategic alliance of Rosneft with the American Exxon-Mobil to 2011 (instead of British Petroleum), which was helped by the scandal in TNK-BP, the Russian leader gave a clear and unequivocal sign.
                    It was understood and heard: that is why in January 2012 of the year, despite all the noisy reports of the State Department and the American embassy in support of street protests, in favor of V.V. Putin, as the future head of state, has expressed the patriarch of Russian politics, Academician EM. Primakov. A week later, such a significant figure as G. Kissinger appeared in Moscow.
                    Interestingly: a day before the promulgation of the agreement between Jacob Rothschild and David Rockefeller, TNK-BP left M. Friedman, head of Alfa Group, a consultant to the International Council of Experts of the US Council on Foreign Relations (his 2009 conflict with the aforementioned business Partner Rothschild Deripaska).
                    Before Friedman, the current head of BP left the British, Dudley, who in London is considered the main victim of the “conspiracy of the Russian oligarchs”, and then V. Vekselberg, etc.
                    Two days later, British Petroleum itself withdrew from the TNK-BP project, leaving the comments of the British state information corporation BBC to the memory of their stay in Russia with biting sarcasm.
                    What does this mean?
                    That the Rockefellers did not reconcile with their defeat, consider it an intermediate stage of intergroup struggle and are ready to fight further.
                    For this they need Russia. Moreover, a united, consolidated and strong Russia (without “orange” excesses): not by chance, even before the inauguration of V.V. Putin’s representatives Exxon-Mobil in his presence signed an agreement with Rosneft on oil production on the shelf of the Black and Kara Seas.
                    United Shipbuilding Corporation and Russian Technologies are connected to the agreement. This means that the Rosneft-Exxon-Mobil alliance is far from being limited to oil issues.
                    Appointment I.I. Sechin’s president of Rosneft in this situation is a step of strategic importance.
                    The alignment of forces now is one to one repeats the end of the 1920-s, when Stalin took the Baku oil fields from the concession from the Nobels (partners of the Rothschilds) and gave them the 50% concession to the Rockefellers - in exchange for financial and technological support for Soviet industrialization.
                    At each new stage History repeats itself!
                    Russia, on the one hand, has a unique chance: to play in the global “Big Game” on an equal footing with a partner (albeit temporary), who is vitally (vitally!) Interested in our success today. (What will happen tomorrow is another conversation: this is a policy in which, along with a strategy, there is a tactic).
                    The question is how quickly and effectively the Russian leader will be able to suppress the “fifth column”, pushing forward the necessary transformations and making the new balance of forces irreversible.
                    This is a matter of country survival. For in the strategy of the Rothschilds of the Russian Federation it is necessary to be dismembered, as Gorbachev has been achieving (and still is) achieving his whole life.
                    Full article here

                    An article a year ago, but just this deal today is very good to go into this canvas. I do not draw any conclusions .. Now screams about conspiracy theories will begin .. Just read and draw your own conclusions
                2. esaul
                  esaul April 5 2013 19: 58 New
                  +2
                  Quote: Ascetic
                  DOES YANGPUR AND TEKHNEFTINVEST HAVE OIL

                  Stanislav, it somehow reminded me of how Stalin sold low-enriched metal ores to Germany under the guise of highly enriched lol Of course, from the moral point of view of fair entrepreneurship, this is immoral. But! From the point of view of a supporter of Stalin's theory and affairs, this is a killer argument against those who accuse Joseph Dzhugashvili of blindly and stupidly arming the Reich. wink
      3. Army1
        Army1 April 5 2013 08: 29 New
        0
        By the way, Serdyukov’s son-in-law is Zubkov’s, right ?! A acquaintance firsthand said: that this serdyuk had no place to put it, and how something happened to him and his wife stuck, so suddenly all the thefts surfaced. I am interested in the question: did Putin know about this? Or said take only a little? If so, then I am upset.
        1. esaul
          esaul April 5 2013 09: 15 New
          +4
          Quote: Army1
          An acquaintance firsthand said:

          Well, what can we talk about after such killer arguments, Sergey ...? I am upset that you form your beliefs and position on such irrefutable facts ...
          In connection with this, I recall a dispute that arose between me and the editor of VO on an "incontrovertible fact" about how one of the military commanders took Serdyukov through the teeth. In order to make sure I went through all the links suggested by Andrei, where the incident was simply absent. In the end, Andrei put forward an argument in the same vein.
          Quote: Army1
          A friend said firsthand

          Then I - Upset ...! crying
          1. Army1
            Army1 April 5 2013 13: 44 New
            0
            http://azerros.ru/maintheme/7574-shoygu-vmesto-serdyukova-v-chem-provinilsya-byv

            shiy-mebelschik.html
            For you Valery
            1. esaul
              esaul April 5 2013 19: 50 New
              +4
              Quote: Army1
              For you Valery

              Thank you ... I looked and the first thought that arose was - "Why in the name of the resource ( azerros ) the word Azerbaijan, Azerbaijanian and other Azerbaijani is clearly guessed ...? "
              He took an interest in the contents of the article and a fact caught his eye - an article for November last year, and it says that Vasilieva (who is in the Oboronservis case, fled abroad from under investigation ... Strange, in the last month she was only awarded a radio collar in her leg. ..
              Going further: There is a constant link to anonymous analysts that cannot make you smile - again, an old song from the repertoire
              Quote: Army1
              A friend said firsthand

              Okay ... What am I attached to anonymous. Whoever likes to read this, let him read. Then I asked about the name of the author and his "works". What I saw ... So respected by you, Sergey, is a journalist both in style and in evidence, and in templates - exactly the same - Alexey Navalny.
              Let's leave that as well. What else worries dear Mr. Kruglikov? And he is very worried about everything that indicates a violation of the rights of the Azerbaijani diaspora in Russia, the problem of Nagorno-Karabakh (and, unambiguously for Kruglikov, Karabakh is the territory occupied by Armenia), he is worried about moments of infringement of the rights of Azerbaijanis in comparison with the rights of Armenians ...
              Here is a person of "Azerbaijani orientation" ...
              Someone will be able (except for our "brother Azerbaijanis") to tell about examples of disinterested friendship and sincere sympathy of the current authorities of Az. republic in relation to the Russian Federation? In addition to purely declarative speeches, deeds are ZERO! And if there are any cases, they perfectly complement each other - "It did not work out to spin Russia into grandmothers on Gabala, so we will stop the cooperation of the military-technical cooperation." Relevant news on the internet are available ...
              That’s the whole story, Seryozha ... you just have to get high about the dirt about your country and its leadership, not disdaining sources (even if it is an erupted fecal pipe in a public toilet) and dirty everyone and everything (not forgetting to say that it’s well-meaning), but I prefer to see the positive in Russian reality ... And your malicious remarks in the spirit of "persons close to the Emperor" - to me on the drum. Everyone judges by himself ...
              Good luck.
        2. Atlon
          Atlon April 5 2013 09: 30 New
          +5
          Quote: Army1
          An acquaintance firsthand said:

          Do you know the definition of a miracle?

          "A miracle is something astonishing, told from the words of a person who did not see him, but heard about it from a supposedly credible source"

          Now about the familiar ... "Not by hearsay" - it means she witnessed the event PERSONALLY. Explain:

          1. Where does your friend work?
          2. Who is Serdyukov?
          3. Who is Serdyukov’s wife?
          4. Who is Putin?
          5. Was she personally present when making the decision on the persecution of Serdyukov?

          Can you satisfy my curiosity? laughing
          1. Army1
            Army1 April 5 2013 13: 45 New
            -2
            http://azerros.ru/maintheme/7574-shoygu-vmesto-serdyukova-v-chem-provinilsya-byv
            shiy-mebelschik.html
            For you, Pavel.
            1. Atlon
              Atlon April 5 2013 14: 00 New
              0
              Quote: Army1
              For you, Pavel.

              I read, and what? Where are the answers to my direct questions? wink Or you decided that a link to an unknown article on an unknown site, without any evidence, the argument is better than: "My friend said firsthand ..."? laughing
              I will disappoint you ... Not convinced!

              ps
              My questions are still valid ... smile
      4. ia-ai00
        ia-ai00 April 5 2013 20: 52 New
        +1
        Unfortunately, the truth is about the deposit. And I was extremely surprised that they continue to sell Russian bowels to the Americans and Westerners!

        Moscow, April 3 - AiF-Moscow. Tycoon Stephen Clark Rockefeller is preparing to complete a deal to acquire deposits in Russia.


        http://www.aif.ru/money/news/345384-это газета "Аргументы и факты".
  8. FC SKIF
    FC SKIF April 5 2013 07: 03 New
    +3
    The only way to protect the world from such a development of events is to withdraw nuclear weapons from a state of constant readiness for use.
    But what about the calculations of American scientists about a possible nuclear attack on Russia? By the way, they are freely available. According to the most “humane” scenario, “all” 2 million people should die. And after that, disarmament, removal from duty ... Yeah, right now, they found fools.
  9. vladsolo56
    vladsolo56 April 5 2013 07: 06 New
    +5
    DO NOT succumb to the lying proposals of the US State Department. They never do anything for nothing. They have a crisis and they need to force Russia to stop in military development, as soon as America plans to get out of the crisis, then all agreements will be buried immediately. And Europe is so much like a dog’s tail.
    1. treskoed
      treskoed April 5 2013 07: 56 New
      +3
      Know only people worthy of friendship,
      Do not know with scoundrels, do not be shameful,
      If the vile medicine pours you - pour it out!
      If the wise gives you poison - accept!
      Omar Khayyam
  10. dmitrich
    dmitrich April 5 2013 07: 13 New
    +1
    We don’t owe anyone.
  11. bubla5
    bubla5 April 5 2013 07: 16 New
    +3
    The USA does not have the right to exist as it is
    1. sashka
      sashka April 5 2013 07: 44 New
      +3
      Quote: bubla5
      The USA does not have the right to exist as it is

      The United States simply has no right to exist. How many hemorrhoids would end ..
      1. Atlon
        Atlon April 5 2013 08: 35 New
        +3
        Quote: Sasha
        The United States simply does not have the right to exist. How many hemorrhoids would end.

        A little not there you see the problem. I would start with small Britain ... The whole root of evil is there.
      2. svp67
        svp67 April 5 2013 13: 23 New
        0
        Quote: Sasha
        The United States simply has no right to exist. How many hemorrhoids would end ..



        And how many new ones would appear ... Here it is somehow more thoroughly necessary ...
  12. Asgard
    Asgard April 5 2013 07: 25 New
    +1
    Let's write the same thing-in other words, more understandable))))
    We are offered to conclude a Molotov-Rebentropp Pact. Everything is obvious. War is coming soon. Months remain ........ the scenario of the end of 30 beginning of 40 years is being played out. Instead of Africa, expeditionary forces will operate in North Korea and further along the continent- SIBERIA)))) China)))
    But with China it is not yet clear whether this is the role of Germany (most likely))) or the role of Germany will be taken by NATO forces, then China remains the role of Japan (most obviously)) after all, for the same reason, the Jews brought almost all industry to China from Europe and America .....

    Well, the object of the attack, I think, is obvious. Not the Russian state (here the President resides without rule, and so he sold everything))
    And the Russian people ......

    Get up The huge country ... Get up to Mortal Kombat ...
    With Jewish "dark power With the damned Horde.
    Let the rage be noble
    Boils like a wave!
    Going war of the people
    Holy war.

    Like two different poles,
    In everything we are hostile.
    We fight for light and peace
    They are for the kingdom of darkness.
  13. Denis
    Denis April 5 2013 07: 28 New
    +4
    It’s a pity the site’s rules do not allow commenting in the right words on what and to whom Russia should
    All this unconventional
  14. horoh
    horoh April 5 2013 07: 35 New
    +3
    In this situation, you need to act differently: the proposal for disarmament from the United States, so let them be the first to disarm. And we will look at the quality of their actions wink
  15. Ragnarek
    Ragnarek April 5 2013 07: 37 New
    +4
    I think we don’t need to “deduce” and “reduce” anything. In the United States, the problem is the degradation of both nuclear weapons themselves and their means of delivery. there is no money for rearmament, so they decided to hang noodles and force us to reduce them.
  16. Landwarrior
    Landwarrior April 5 2013 07: 39 New
    +2
    Again we put a rake ... The main thing is that the mind is enough not to step on them
  17. Delink
    Delink April 5 2013 07: 39 New
    +2
    We already have less nuclear weapons than Amers. Yes, in a state of readiness. In general, withdraw from the START-3 treaty and no longer sign a single document on disarmament. It only weakens our country.
    1. esaul
      esaul April 5 2013 08: 05 New
      +4
      Quote: Delink
      We already have less nuclear weapons than Amers

      hi In tactics - we have superiority. Because the states and until recently fought for the signing of an agreement to reduce nuclear weapons. They fought, fought, but didn’t achieve anything - they received a polite OTLUP. Recently, our military leadership announced the uselessness of the CFE Treaty, as it is not in line with the new realities and ours are not going to renew the "bazaar" on it. According to START, a departure from the execution of the letter of individual paragraphs went, both on one side and on the other side. But they prefer not to wake up all this topic. things will not go beyond mutual reproaches. It used to be - under Gorbachev and EBN, our hasty apologized and promised to improve. Now is not the time. A response kick from the Russian Federation flies to each attack of minke whales.
  18. Dart weyder
    Dart weyder April 5 2013 07: 40 New
    +7
    NU-YES, they have already withdrawn from the territory of Europe and Turkey according to old nuclear weapons treaties !? NATO east has not expanded since the 90s! ??? with whom to negotiate !? with whom to cooperate! ???? Libya, Syria, Yugoslavia, Iraq - also collaborated with them - and where are they! ???? drive such experts to the neck
  19. Wedmak
    Wedmak April 5 2013 07: 42 New
    +1
    And who is listening to these homegrown experts? Obviously, any such assessments are paid by interested parties / organizations / governments. We owe nothing to anyone. Let the Americans and the British play on their islands. Already tired of everyone ....
  20. krokodil25
    krokodil25 April 5 2013 07: 47 New
    +2
    it is the refusal from constant strategic readiness of the strategic nuclear forces to help to avoid catastrophic consequences, since countries will have additional time to analyze the situation before the return launch of missiles.



    Yeah, a rocket flies, and we are thinking of giving an answer or not giving it all the same, just like children who are naive and stupid for idiots keep us !!! am
  21. vadson
    vadson April 5 2013 07: 47 New
    0
    the list item refers to support from governments. For successful negotiations, the delegation must have the confidence of the government. Otherwise, all consultations and discussions may be in vain.
    yeah it's like a lady again give steer syas, schaz
    1. Boa kaa
      Boa kaa April 5 2013 13: 16 New
      +2
      Quote: vadson
      yeah it's like a lady again give steer syas

      No dame can be trusted to trust the steering wheel, otherwise we will chap again in the fairway of the minke whale. And in general: well, I do not trust MNS! I trust academics and professors, and MNS is not a ...
  22. Tatarus
    Tatarus April 5 2013 07: 48 New
    +5
    The smell of blood and conflagration is becoming clearer in the air. It's just that the West runs out of money. Russia has not yet. Here are the Westerners trying to hinder the growth of the enemy’s military power. As soon as we ditch the strategic nuclear forces, we will offer China a section of Russia. A simultaneous strike from the west and south-east of the army without nuclear weapons will not reflect. Then they will divide as Korea. And that’s all. One part is a raw materials appendage of the USA, the second is an appendage of China. That's why the creatures started moving. So far, China and I have not become closer friends. They are afraid that Beijing and Moscow will conclude an agreement on the division of the world. Like once with Spain and Portugal. Before this, the Chinese meridian, after the Russian meridian.
  23. lvn321
    lvn321 April 5 2013 07: 52 New
    +5
    What trust can a shave have? The most petty state. Only prepayment. And about the reduction - you want to reduce, you can not keep it - forward and with the song. And we'll see. As the saying goes: "convey your ardent greetings to your king, and we need to consult with comrades. Such questions are not resolved with the condachka."
  24. family
    family tree April 5 2013 07: 52 New
    +3
    On April 3, a group of experts from several countries presented their report “Strengthening Mutual Security in the Euro-Atlantic Region”
    Therefore, the above tips and recommendations are nothing more than a concussion, with all, perhaps, respect for those people who signed up to this document.
    And that’s it. But the weapons must be kept ready, cleaned, oiled and charged, and if something happens, there may not be enough time. So experts can go further, by field, forest, peat bog, well, hi far away
  25. nokki
    nokki April 5 2013 08: 01 New
    13
    Our answer is America.
    1. Igor
      Igor April 5 2013 08: 37 New
      +1
      Yes, interesting perspective laughing good
    2. plohoy
      plohoy April 5 2013 11: 38 New
      -1
      +100500)))))))))))))))) laughing
    3. Boa kaa
      Boa kaa April 5 2013 13: 21 New
      +2
      nokki (1) C & L H O! (I will not say anything about the moral side ...)
    4. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich April 11 2013 17: 25 New
      +1
      CARE !!! laughingit would be nice to immortalize in bronze ...
  26. Mails
    Mails April 5 2013 08: 03 New
    +4
    The United States is on duty at 792 ballistic missiles - the warheads on these missiles - 1654.
    In Russia, in turn, only 492 carriers with 1480 combat units are deployed.

    According to the terms of the START III treaty, in the near future, countries should bring the number of deployed carriers to 700, and warheads to 1550 units.


    Well, what’s the problem, and here we are. Here let amers reduce.
    And then you can up to 550 media. For them it will be more painful.
    1. Bronis
      Bronis April 5 2013 08: 29 New
      0
      How? laughing But what about missile defense? fifty carriers are harder to shoot down than, for example, 200 pcs. "Here they are and experts" are attracted.
  27. 1goose3
    1goose3 April 5 2013 08: 05 New
    +3
    Quote: Sasha
    Quote: bubla5
    The USA does not have the right to exist as it is

    The United States simply has no right to exist. How many hemorrhoids would end ..


    Even during the period of spring exacerbation, sometimes bright thoughts come to you. Because plus this time.
    1. sashka
      sashka April 5 2013 08: 13 New
      0
      Quote: 1goose3
      Even during the period of spring exacerbation, sometimes bright thoughts come to you. Because plus this time.

      As for the spring exacerbation .. Here's how to say it. But with the “plus” you are clearly getting excited. Do not need..
  28. krot
    krot April 5 2013 08: 14 New
    +1
    something in a hurry they want to disarm us! this is not good ..
  29. Pollang
    Pollang April 5 2013 08: 17 New
    +1
    In no case will Gorbachov’s strategic nuclear forces suffice us, only to build up military superiority, we don’t have friends in the world and we all like a bone in the throat, so let them know that we have a nuclear fist.
  30. timhelmet
    timhelmet April 5 2013 08: 20 New
    0
    The report notes that the successful course of nuclear disarmament of the United States and Russia in the very near future can have a beneficial effect on a number of international issues. First of all, these countries will secure themselves.

    Two sentences among themselves like a cat with a dog. No semantic connection.

    Disarm, thereby protect yourself. Wow...
  31. Igor
    Igor April 5 2013 08: 34 New
    +2
    Nuclear weapons are not a means of attack, but rather a means of deterrence.
    it does not lead to wars and destruction.
    I propose to reduce weapons that sow pain and suffering.
    I offer 100% reduction of all Russian and US aircraft carriers.
    wink and let there be peace!
    1. Boa kaa
      Boa kaa April 5 2013 13: 27 New
      +2
      Quote: Igor
      I offer 100% reduction of all Russian and US aircraft carriers.

      Though I am a sailor, I support this proposal: it will be our direct victory with the 14: 1 score. No worse than Chesma, right!
  32. Bronis
    Bronis April 5 2013 08: 43 New
    +3
    Well done, "partners", all right.
    1. Reduce the number of carriers and BB to improve missile defense capabilities.
    2. To withdraw the strategic nuclear forces from full combat readiness - to increase the chances of a preventive strike by the Kyrgyz Republic on strategic missile forces (missiles will not have time to leave).
    Here, the Americans are even ready to shorten their strategic nuclear forces, because if you do not link them to missile defense, they are all the same plus (and the Minutemen were placed at the end of the 70, it’s time already).
    3. The guarantee of complete guaranteed mutual destruction does not make a barrier in cooperation between countries, on the contrary laughing
    Although no, out in Iraq, Yugoslavia, Libya, "cooperation" and rushing.

    It’s a good idea to include other nuclear countries in treaties on strategic nuclear forces, all the more so because in case of what, it’s clear who their missiles will fly to.
    But all this from the series "talk about anything" - we are not satisfied with one thing, they are different. We talked, fled
  33. Dwarfik
    Dwarfik April 5 2013 08: 49 New
    +1
    Quote: Igor
    Nuclear weapons are not a means of attack, but rather a means of deterrence.
    it does not lead to wars and destruction.
    I propose to reduce weapons that sow pain and suffering.
    I offer 100% reduction of all Russian and US aircraft carriers.
    wink and let there be peace!


    Good Well, humor is understandable about aircraft carriers, given that we do not have them, and Kuznetsov is an aircraft carrier cruiser. But on the account of reducing the strategic nuclear forces by 100%, you got excited - for example, the Americans reduced, but forgot about such a block as NATO? or does France have no nuclear weapons or do the British? Be sure that as soon as we reduce our nuclear weapons, the same Europe will speak with us in a completely different way! and they won’t pay for gas, gas will be theirs!
    1. Igor
      Igor April 5 2013 11: 29 New
      0
      Good morning! I only offered a reduction in aircraft carriers ... and all Yes, the joke is ..
      About Nuclear Weapons was out of the question! I agree that nuclear weapons are a very good and powerful argument in negotiations at any level.
      Let our nuclear weapons develop and modernize with us. It’s like the third friend of Russia (after the Army and Navy)
    2. Boa kaa
      Boa kaa April 5 2013 13: 32 New
      +2
      Quote: Dwarfik
      But at the expense of reducing the number of XaSa 100% you got excited

      Dwarfik, Igor did not speak about 100% reduction of the SNF! Read carefully ..
  34. svp67
    svp67 April 5 2013 08: 53 New
    0
    Nevertheless, a group of experts believes that it is precisely the refusal of constant strategic readiness of the strategic nuclear forces will help to avoid catastrophic consequences, as countries will have additional time to analyze the situation before the missile launches back.



    But voluntarily "disarm" unilaterally, gentlemen, you do not need. If you are so wise and peace-loving, start the first and remove your strategic nuclear forces from combat duty - as a gesture of goodwill ... and we will think about it.
  35. xmike
    xmike April 5 2013 09: 08 New
    0
    pin dos! Fuck you, not cut ...
  36. amp
    amp April 5 2013 09: 18 New
    +1
    If Russia would do as her sworn friends say, she would have long ceased to exist.
  37. Brummbar
    Brummbar April 5 2013 09: 19 New
    0
    When D.M. this might be a ride. And now let them from ... sa .. days.
  38. Middle-brother
    Middle-brother April 5 2013 09: 28 New
    0
    at one time tagged cut rockets. Does history really teach us nothing?
  39. Averias
    Averias April 5 2013 09: 29 New
    0
    Here are the "radishes" hypocritical. So, while Russia was in f ... e (the time of Yeltsin and after it), no one was talking about reductions in nuclear weapons. And now, when they realized that we are gaining momentum, that at the head of the country is a man who does not dance to the tune of the West. When Russia declares itself louder and louder on the world stage - did the "old songs about the main thing" begin? And even if you disarm, then under tight control and without compromise. And then at one time we launched rockets with planes and submarines under the knife with rapture, and the United States exported uranium from us (Chernomyrdin, selling uranium at a cheap price), non-ferrous metals, and more. A fucking reduction came about, just like the law of conservation of energy (if somewhere that something has disappeared, then somewhere that something has arrived). No, the second time on the same rake, not a ride.
    I really liked this one, I quote: For successful negotiations, the delegation must have the confidence of the government.
    Yeah, we mean you are lying in three boxes right now, and you believe us, we are "honest".
  40. Rustam009
    Rustam009 April 5 2013 09: 30 New
    +2
    The question of mutual reductions in the nuclear arsenal comes at a time when the Americans need to dispose of their obsolete nuclear weapons (remember the START treaties). Moreover, the agreement is usually not in favor of Russia. They reduce junk, while their new armaments as a rule do not fall under the agreement, and we, as the last stupid people, reduce promising developments and armaments. I hope we do not fall into this trap again.
  41. Perch_xnumx
    Perch_xnumx April 5 2013 09: 32 New
    0
    Russia must "withdraw part of nuclear weapons from the state of readiness"
    Buoy in your mouth. Cut nuclear weapons and America missile defense surrounds us in the meantime.
  42. Anphy
    Anphy April 5 2013 09: 35 New
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    Treaties with the West are not worth the paper on which they are written. Moreover, Russia, having far from the most powerful army and far from the most advanced economy, unlike the United States, is surrounded by NATO bases and a ring of far from friendly states. Moreover, the territory that needs to be protected is simply huge. I doubt that someone will reckon with Russia if it has lost a significant part of its nuclear potential.
  43. AK-74-1
    AK-74-1 April 5 2013 09: 40 New
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    Something is not entirely clear to me. Who has problems with the content of strategic nuclear forces. We have no such problems. Faster need to do a replacement "Governor" with orbital capabilities. To restore Molodets, to leave the CFE Treaty, to develop tactical nuclear weapons and to develop tactically tactical delivery vehicles with universal platforms for tactical nuclear weapons, military units or thermobaric warheads. Fortunately, our country is abundant in its resources and there are still people with a brain. And there are also reasons to restrain NATO, China, the "Japanese imperialists", "Islamic extremists", the "international drug mafia", aliens, asteroids, etc., but you can come up with an inflamed brain.
  44. kostiknet
    kostiknet April 5 2013 09: 45 New
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    (The only way to protect the world from such a development is to remove nuclear weapons from a state of constant readiness for use.)
    And why the hell then is it necessary?
    (Nevertheless, the group of experts believes that it is precisely the refusal from constant strategic readiness of the strategic nuclear forces will help to avoid catastrophic consequences, as countries will have additional time to analyze the situation before the return launch of missiles.)
    Yes of course!!! Sitting (in the form of spirits and ghosts) on a radioactive cloud, you can analyze the situation to shreds !!
    Russia and the USA commit themselves to withdraw part of the strategic nuclear forces from a state of readiness for the immediate use of weapons. The withdrawal conditions are proposed to be agreed with the requirements of START III;
    Are these the only countries on the planet that have a strategic nuclear forces? And the rest of the "friends" from NATO stand aside? Have China and Korea already become "pacifist countries"? We are simply once again invited to disarm, can then dissolve the Army completely at home? That's where the savings are for the budget (and in the West, everyone will directly "cry from tenderness.")
  45. Hort
    Hort April 5 2013 09: 45 New
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    Moreover, under certain circumstances, a successful first strike by an adversary may deprive the country that removed the missiles from constant duty of the opportunity to respond.
    it seems that the calculation is that we “shaw” the expert report and rush to reduce our arsenals.
    In the context of the Islamization of Europe, the war in the Middle East and more missiles in the United States, to reduce or withdraw from duty its warheads is to be completely inadequate, believing in elves and pink ponies, like a rainbow
  46. SPIRITofFREEDOM
    SPIRITofFREEDOM April 5 2013 09: 51 New
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    Again a breeder !!!
  47. oper66
    oper66 April 5 2013 09: 52 New
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    A possible reduction in Russia's nuclear potential is a long-standing dream of all shaving-jackets and their mongrels, it is alarming that I. Ivanov, a former Foreign Minister, was among the esperds and ours, and he subscribed to this letter. The issue of strategic nuclear forces is relevant, but it is possible only if all AUGs and mongrels with NATO are handed over for scrap, the withdrawal of military bases from the borders of the Russian Federation, and most importantly, the IMF is disbanded as a branch of America’s neo-collanization policy in the world. But we need to take a closer look at our Ivanov - the guy’s campaign was “fed up”.
  48. Dim1
    Dim1 April 5 2013 10: 28 New
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    Quote: Atlon
    Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
    Although, if the United States puts its aircraft carriers on the joke, sends three-quarters of strategic and tactical aircraft to scrap, reduce the armed forces to half a million people, disband the National Guard, then ... we’ll think

    What is there to think? If they do all this, I propose to sign a large non-aggression treaty, and on guarantees of Russian defense for the United States if Korea, Syria, Iran or aliens attack the United States! And also in case of landing of Somali pirates on the coast of Miami ...;)

    About aliens is not necessary, but about the rest - you can wink
  49. shurup
    shurup April 5 2013 11: 01 New
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    The stump is clear that the chain mail is expensive. As far as I can remember, as many agreements on parity are held. An endless poker game with a constant change of cards, where everyone hopes to collect all the aces, although there are only four of them in the deck, and the joker is marked with Uncle Joe.
    ISS, SERN - agreed. Why not organize a club here with a limited number of members. Everyone has their own achievements, but in general - savings.
    And do not forget which rockets Korolev struck the space program.
  50. Circle
    Circle April 5 2013 11: 16 New
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    P.I.d.o.sam, arrogant Saxons and other shellups can not be trusted a single word. Not a single one. No reduction of nuclear weapons !!! They understand only the language of power and money. There is simply no other perception.

    Despite the fact that after 20 years, many citizens of the ex-USSR begin to realize how we were all betrayed and deceived. The Faitingtons again want to repeat their experience of the 90s, - suddenly a ride.

    The bad thing is that the desire to remove containment factor is indirect evidence debtor country intentions 15 trillion green papers to unleash a hot war. Indeed, in the 30s of the XNUMXth century, the most prosperous country managed to jump out of the recession after the war. And if it were not for the gold reserves created in the USSR by the political leadership, FIG knows how the country could recover. Please note that in recent years, Russia and Kazakhstan have directed to maximize their gold reserves. Germany decided to return the gold coin from France, but the Americans were "embarrassed" to ask. Moreover, it has long been stolen most likely.

    Intensive rearmament of the army, increasing the level of combat readiness (training), the accumulation of gold reserves (these three factors have never lied at all times). The aggravation of the situation around Syria. What are we preparing for?