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Transcaucasia: in the ball of friends ...

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After the unscheduled military exercises conducted by Russia in the Black Sea region, with their planned continuation, the Georgian side demonstrated its unhealthy revival on this issue.


The words of the Georgian Minister of Defense that Russia was conducting the exercises in the immediate vicinity of the Georgian borders, and “we have tenfold attention” give, excuse me, to some North Korean. Well, Russia is not to blame for the fact that it has common borders with Georgia, and that the Georgian authorities have paranoia.

Vulnerability and attempts to inflate the conflict flame literally from nothing on the part of representatives of Georgian officials look quite in the “best traditions” of Kim Jong-un. Well, of course, with the only difference that we have not yet announced the focus of the existing in Georgia weapons especially towards the Kremlin - the "aggressor" and "accomplice of the Ecumenical militarism." And the rest - really, it seems ...



However, Georgian politicians decided not to limit their statements to Russia in mortal sins, and announced that they were also ready to constantly demonstrate the skills of their army units. Like, and we still have that ... hoo ...

Only now, if Russia did not show anything to anyone, but solved its internal tasks to identify the level of combat capability of the army and fleet, then Georgia, as it became known, does not intend to limit itself to internal affairs. Irakli Alasania (head of the Georgian military department) said that the Georgian army will continue active joint exercises with American partners, and hereinafter quote:

"In the future, even larger exercises will be held in Georgia."


Under the words “even more ambitious,” Alasania, apparently, meant that some new exercises will be larger than those that ended in Georgia just a few days ago. We are talking about the Georgian-American teachings Agile Spirit 2013. In these maneuvers, from which Alasania, after the maneuvers carried out by Russia, apparently wanted to extract something more, the American marines 350 and the military personnel of the 23 battalion of the Georgian army NNXX took part. It is noteworthy that the press service of the Georgian Ministry of Defense announced the end of the April 9th ​​joint exercises with the American side, and the information was released that at the closing ceremony of the exercises (and there was such a part), the national ballet “Sukhishvili” and the musical group performed at the closing ceremony. "BMB". Was there a holiday feast after the musical closure of the Georgian-American studies? - The press service of the Georgian military department is silent, although, perhaps because of a feast, the US Marines remained at the closing ceremony ...

If we consider the teachings of Agile Spirit 2013, then one important detail stands out in them, which was told by the Georgian military personnel themselves. This detail consists in the fact that at one of the stages Georgian and foreign journalists were involved, whom the military were introduced to the rules of covering such events, taking into account all the safety principles. It turns out that they rather taught not the Georgian military themselves how to act in combat situations, but Georgian journalists, so that they would “correctly” cover the combat readiness of Georgian military personnel ... Teachings of the information troops ...

In this regard, the words of Heraclius Alasania that in the future Georgia will expect more extensive exercises, look somewhat ambiguous. Does official Tbilisi intend to scale up the exercises of its army by increasing the number of journalists accredited to cover them? For example, the "teachings" of a Georgian office against the background of the American flag can cover about a dozen television channels and radio stations, not to mention dozens of online publications ... The scale is obvious!

However, there is the Georgian side, which, apparently, the increasing frequency of Russian military maneuvers is touching on the living, and other plans to increase the mass character of the exercises in Georgia. One of these plans is the involvement of the Turkish side in military cooperation.

From the same main military department of Georgia it was reported that in the coming year Tbilisi is going to organize large regional maneuvers, inviting Azerbaijan and Turkey for this. The words of Mr. Alasania that talks about such exercises are already underway with the American side look very interesting here. What would it mean? Georgian military officials are going to persuade the US to strengthen the effect of the exercises with the help of two more countries - hypothetical participants? But if the United States is going to take part in the exercises a priori, then, to put it mildly, it is not entirely clear why the exercises that can start in Georgia next year are called regional authorities by the Georgian authorities. Or Tbilisi has already completely ceased to conceal that the United States is a regional (Caucasian) state due to the use of Georgian territory for its own purposes ...

Now it is worth considering the question of why Azerbaijan and Turkey are going to invite Georgia to conduct joint exercises next year. To answer this question, it is necessary to turn to the speech of the permanent representative of the Republic of Azerbaijan to NATO Mr. Ibrahim in the Woodrow Wilson Center in Washington. Khazar Ibrahim said that three countries (Azerbaijan, Georgia and Turkey) could offer their services to the NATO contingent, which is currently stationed in Afghanistan. This proposal is connected with the railway under construction from Baku through the Georgian Akhalkalaki station to the Turkish Kars. According to Ibrahim, the goods of NATO could get from Afghanistan to Azerbaijan by air, and then by rail to NATO Turkey. In addition, the permanent representative of Azerbaijan to NATO said that the designated railway will help increase the number of jobs in Afghanistan and, no less, raise the economy of this country ...

The American side noted that Ibrahim would definitely think about the proposal, and perhaps even make a positive decision, if the quotation of the official representative of the State Department: "prices will be acceptable" ... Apparently, the Baku-Akhalkalaki-Kars railway can be offered for withdrawal representatives of Georgia, Azerbaijan and Turkey agreed at a meeting of the heads of the foreign ministries of the three states at the end of March in Batumi.

The Georgian authorities decided to take advantage of the (dubious) for themselves from the proposals of the Azerbaijani side (and the exercises surfaced) stated that Georgia, Azerbaijan and Turkey should certainly begin military cooperation in the region under close attention of their American friends. Apparently, in the plot of the exercise, the Georgian side is working on how, in 2014, the joint units will protect the railway track at the hands of hypothetical saboteurs. Where does Georgia expect sabotage groups that could disrupt cargo traffic by rail? - it is easy to guess, if we again refer to the words of Irakli Alasania:

“... on the part of the occupying forces, there is no signal that their position regarding the territorial integrity of Georgia will change in any form. Their military presence in complete violation of international principles and today gives a reason for us to be constantly in combat readiness. "

As the saying goes: eat the fish, and ... Tbilisi’s idea is probably the following: NATO military contingent and equipment will be withdrawn, including through the territory of Georgia, and there, you see, NATO members will pay attention to such territories as Abkhazia and South Ossetia (in Georgian version - Tskhinvali region). And if you pay attention, then, you see, the Russian “invaders” will shake their knees, and the Kremlin will take and will withdraw its recognition of the independence of the two republics mentioned above. A sort of Georgian version: "and suddenly prokanaet ..."

Meanwhile, the hypothetical intensification of military activity (even in the form of training maneuvers) of Georgia, Azerbaijan and Turkey, which Tbilisi plans to nurture, is of some concern to Yerevan. While in Batumi, the leaders of Azerbaijan, Turkey and Georgia were discussing how to develop relations among themselves, including in the military sphere, Ramin Mehmanparast, a representative of the Iranian Foreign Ministry, visited Armenia. According to official data, the reason for the arrival in Yerevan of Mehmanparasta was the question of the possible condemnation by Armenia of foreign military intervention (including in the form of financial and technical assistance to the militants) in Syria. According to unofficial information, Mehmanparast convinced the Armenian leadership not to aggravate the situation around Nagorno-Karabakh if ​​Azerbaijan starts military cooperation with the United States. How plausible is the designated unofficial reason for the visit of the representative of the Iranian Foreign Ministry to Armenia? - difficult to say, but such a probability can not be excluded.

In general, in the South Caucasus, there is a buzzing in the style of "who outshoots someone with activity." What to do ... - a region of large geopolitical interests, and the official authorities of the countries of the region are trying to extract from this their own benefit. Someone is better, someone - as always ...
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  1. Vanek
    Vanek April 5 2013 06: 50 New
    13
    About Georgia.

    - NOT! Polite people
    Not disappeared, still found
    On the path of life.
    I was so politely sent yesterday.
    What was not convenient was not to go.


    To send theirs and all. ......... only politely send .....
    1. esaul
      esaul April 5 2013 07: 45 New
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      The words of the Georgian Minister of Defense that Russia conducted the exercises in the immediate vicinity of the Georgian borders, and "we have halted our attention" are given, excuse me, by some kind of North Korean
      Scary, already - horror ...!
      Can and DOUBLE their attention, Russia - do not care. These warlike speeches are like scaring a hedgehog with a bare ass. fool
      1. Natalia
        Natalia April 5 2013 12: 42 New
        +3
        Where does Georgia expect sabotage groups that could interrupt the flow of goods by rail?


        how did it come from, but the Salvadoran special forces, which are planning to commit sabotage there a hundred pounds))) lol
        1. DimychAs
          DimychAs April 5 2013 13: 04 New
          +5
          laughing And from the rear, Venezuelan soldier
      2. Victor
        Victor April 5 2013 13: 48 New
        +1
        Quote: esaul
        Scary, already - horror ...!
        Can and DOUBLE their attention, Russia - do not care. These warlike speeches are like scaring a hedgehog with a bare ass.

        Greetings Valera!
        " From the same main military department of Georgia, it was reported that next year Tbilisi is going to arrange large regional maneuvers in the sandbox near the Mishiko palace, inviting Azerbaijan and Turkey with their paddles and buckets for Easter cakes for this. "
        I think that this is how the statement of the main military hamster of Georgia will sound more constructive.
      3. mda
        mda April 5 2013 19: 05 New
        +3

        ] Sorry, some North Korean

        North Korea at least has a millionth army, and Georgia ... 30 thousand no more.
  2. Reasonable, 2,3
    Reasonable, 2,3 April 5 2013 06: 51 New
    +1
    Well, got the brains ?. Maybe enough?. A pug will bark at an elephant.
  3. Nesvet Nezar
    Nesvet Nezar April 5 2013 06: 52 New
    +4
    Georgians are ours. Saakashvili to prison - work out the loans and beg for forgiveness!
  4. smart ass
    smart ass April 5 2013 07: 08 New
    0
    Duck like Saakashvili has already left ???? And why hasn't the rhetoric changed ???
    1. krasin
      krasin April 5 2013 07: 48 New
      +9
      After Stalin and Shevarnadze the Georgians crushed. The land of adequate politicians will not give birth.
      1. omsbon
        omsbon April 5 2013 09: 11 New
        20
        And that someone considers the traitor Shevornadze an adequate politician? I am surprised!
      2. Black
        Black April 5 2013 09: 14 New
        +6
        Quote: krasin
        After .... Shevarnadze was crushed by Georgians.

        Do you consider Shevarnadze (and Gorbachev) the big figures of what kind of policy?
        Your credo is not entirely clear ....
      3. avt
        avt April 5 2013 09: 32 New
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        Quote: krasin
        After Stalin and Shevarnadze Georgians chopped

        wassat Edika on a par with Stalin? This is by what criterion? I mean, one got stuck, collected the Empire, and the other merged it in five minutes with a hunchback? fool Well, you give a pancake! request
      4. valokordin
        valokordin April 5 2013 09: 36 New
        +8
        Quote: krasin
        After Stalin and Shevarnadze the Georgians crushed. The land of adequate politicians will not give birth.

        Stalin is Russian Georgian, and Shevarnadze is American
      5. mansur
        mansur April 5 2013 23: 47 New
        +3
        Quote: krasin
        After Stalin and Shevarnadze the Georgians crushed. The land of adequate politicians will not give birth.

        Stalin is understandable, but how can Shevarnadze bastard be placed with him next to him and everything started at first the Union destroyed Gorbach’s house, then Saakashvili got to Georgia then his project
  5. dmitrich
    dmitrich April 5 2013 07: 10 New
    0
    Georgians probably had a marathon race.
    1. datur
      datur April 6 2013 00: 34 New
      0
      Georgians must have had a marathon race. But it was - Russian
  6. FC SKIF
    FC SKIF April 5 2013 07: 18 New
    +1
    Remember the vulgar joke about the bear and the unlucky hunter, whom the clubfoot constantly caught? What did he ask him? The symbol of Russia, by the way, is a bear, and we will put on a tie for the hunter, and let him chew it during the "procedure".
    1. Ascetic
      Ascetic April 5 2013 11: 00 New
      12
      Quote: FC Skif
      Remember the vulgar joke about the bear and the unlucky hunter, whom the clubfoot constantly caught? What did he ask him? The symbol of Russia, by the way, is a bear, and we will put on a tie for the hunter, and let him chew it during the "procedure".


      Let them rejoice while hoping for overseas friends ..
      1. Yarbay
        Yarbay April 5 2013 21: 05 New
        -5
        As always, Mr. Volodin writes lies and nonsense


        *** In order to answer this question, it is necessary to refer to the speech of the Permanent Representative of the Republic of Azerbaijan to NATO, Mr. Ibrahim, in the center of Woodrow Wilson in Washington. Khazar Ibrahim said that three countries (Azerbaijan, Georgia and Turkey) could offer their services to the NATO contingent, which is currently deployed in Afghanistan. This proposal is related to the railway under construction from Baku via the Georgian station Akhalkalaki to Turkish Kars. According to Ibrahim, NATO’s cargo could be delivered from Afghanistan to Azerbaijan by air, and then by rail to NATO Turkey. In addition, the Permanent Representative of Azerbaijan to NATO said that the designated railway will help increase the number of jobs in Afghanistan and, no less, raise the economy of this country ...

        The American side noted that Ibrahim’s proposal would certainly be thought over and, perhaps, even taken a positive decision if, quoted by the State Department official: “the prices will be acceptable” ... Apparently, that the Baku-Akhalkalaki-Kars railway can be offered for withdrawal of the joint contingent, representatives of Georgia, Azerbaijan and Turkey agreed at a meeting of the heads of the foreign ministries of the three states at the end of March in Batumi. *** - from beginning to end another lie and disgusting written by Mr. Volodin !! This was not said by the representative of Azerbaijan and this was not said by the amers!
        You are simply amazed at Volodin’s nasty behavior !!
        Just mean!
        Here is the statement of Khazar Ibrahim!
        Azerbaijan is discussing with NATO various options for withdrawing the forces of the international coalition from Afghanistan.

        This was stated by the Permanent Representative of the Republic to the Alliance, Khazar Ibrahim.

        "The options can be very different: multimodal, that is, delivery to Azerbaijan by air, and then by land; there can be transportation by sea; it is also possible by land. The latter option will find wider application after the commissioning of the Baku-Tbilisi railway. Kars, "the diplomat told reporters on Thursday.

        The construction project of the Baku-Tbilisi-Kars railway is planned to be completed by the end of this year.
        http://news.day.az/politics/393786.html
        Give a link to the speech of Khazar Ibrahim !!
        and amersky!
        Amer already said that they are ready to consider all options !!!
        1. Yarbay
          Yarbay April 5 2013 22: 07 New
          -2
          Mr. Volodin, discussion and suggestion are two different things, it would be time for you to know that !!
        2. Ascetic
          Ascetic April 5 2013 22: 09 New
          +5
          Quote: Yarbay
          Here is the statement of Khazar Ibrahim!
          Azerbaijan is discussing with NATO various options for withdrawing the forces of the international coalition from Afghanistan.


          “Our legislation is ready for approval of this project by NATO. Some countries are still in the process of signing agreements with NATO, but Azerbaijan is already ready. A small part of the troops is already being withdrawn through Azerbaijan.
          Moreover, after the withdrawal of troops, Afghanistan will need a lot of help in raising the economy, creating jobs, which is impossible without the appropriate infrastructure. So, this project could be a turning point for Afghanistan, "


          noted H. Ibrahim
          link


          "The options can be very different: multimodal, that is, delivery to Azerbaijan by air, and then by land; there can be transportation by sea; it is also possible by land. The latter option will find wider application after the commissioning of the Baku-Tbilisi railway. Kars "

          link

          It’s not clear on one site that it says that troops are already being withdrawn through Azerbaijan, while on the other only options are being discussed in connection with the new railway
      2. datur
        datur April 8 2013 22: 22 New
        0
        We are talking about the Georgian-American teachings of Agile Spirit 2013. ha ha, and the literal translation sounds so agile spirit !!!! wink laughing it turns out again preparing for the race, to Tbilisi? or already far away ??? laughing
  7. bubla5
    bubla5 April 5 2013 07: 19 New
    +1
    Catherine didn’t have to take Georgia under her wing in the old days, notice those at their request, now it would be Turkish territory
    1. andrejwz
      andrejwz April 5 2013 10: 22 New
      +5
      Quote: bubla5
      Catherine didn’t have to take Georgia under her wing in the old days, notice those at their request, now it would be Turkish territory

      "In 1783, the Georgian king Irakli, not having the strength to fight Persia, gave Russia under the patronage, and his successor George XII bequeathed Georgia to the Russian emperor, and in 1801 it was annexed to Russia. Georgia, recognized the dominion of Russia Imereti (Kutais city), Mingrelia и Houri (along the river Rion - in 1804 and 1810). "
      (V.O. Kulsky. A Brief Guide on Russian History.)
      This, by the way, is about unity and territorial integrity (..I blinded him from what was). Well, about the ability to remain independent. Based on the current efforts of the Georgian leadership, they can only be independent of common sense.
  8. Kolyan
    Kolyan April 5 2013 07: 35 New
    +2
    Why even pay attention to Georgians?
    1. smel
      smel April 5 2013 08: 21 New
      +3
      Georgia and Georgians must be paid attention to. But their politicians are not worth it
  9. treskoed
    treskoed April 5 2013 07: 41 New
    0
    There are still many friends of Russia in Georgia. Develop beneficial cooperation, tourism, and figures like Alasania will shut up themselves! Or shut them up!
    1. evgenm55
      evgenm55 April 5 2013 08: 07 New
      +7
      That's the whole point - do not confuse the people of Georgia and the government, which is contented by the Americans and nurtured by them. Simple Georgians do not live well there. I served in Georgia at 245 MSD. I know well western Georgia and its Black Sea coast. not unfounded, the relationship with the Georgians was very warm, especially on their part. Natural hospitality, openness and friendliness were. Plus, the climate was great. Because in Soviet times, half the Union was resting there. Georgia shouldn’t be lost for strategic purposes either. In any case, one must not get hung up on the viciousness and insanity of the Americans ..... ..... Liz Yua to look for ways to restore friendship and good neighborliness with the people of the fraternal republic only recently.
      1. treskoed
        treskoed April 5 2013 09: 50 New
        +3
        I am in 1978. received in Tbilisi draftees - 95 people. They went into the army with pleasure, brought to Arkhangelsk without incident and served mostly normally!
  10. Ragnarek
    Ragnarek April 5 2013 07: 44 New
    +2
    Georgia is our DPRK in Transcaucasia! It is necessary to groom and preserve this reserve, so that later on in schools, this is what democracy like the USA can bring to.
    1. Krapovy32
      Krapovy32 April 7 2013 15: 17 New
      0
      Ragnarek

      If you hold them, then Misha Sukashvili will eat all the ties that he finds lol
  11. Tatarus
    Tatarus April 5 2013 07: 56 New
    +3
    In response, it is necessary to conduct regional exercises of the CSTO and Iran.
    1. Krapovy32
      Krapovy32 April 7 2013 15: 18 New
      +1
      Tatarus lol

      If you hold them, then Misha Sukashvili will eat all the ties that he finds
  12. deman73
    deman73 April 5 2013 08: 03 New
    +7
    And so we slowed down the tanks in 2008 near Tbilisi
    1. Black Colonel
      Black Colonel April 5 2013 08: 42 New
      +6
      It was quite possible to occupy Georgia as an aggressor country for some time after 08.08.08. You see, during the occupation and adequate policies would come to rule the country.
      1. Gari
        Gari April 5 2013 14: 34 New
        +6
        I can tell you how often I go there and talk a lot with simple people, they are tired of the Vikrutas and their rulers there, they are anti-Turkish, and they all want again, to have a normal neighborhood with Russia, therefore they chose Ivanishivili in the elections and went against Saaakashvili because with the hope that a more sober politician was Ivanishivili, and by the way, he announced that they would get closer to Russia, and Saakashvili remained until October --- let's see goodbye
    2. Shurik34RF
      Shurik34RF April 5 2013 18: 11 New
      +1
      State Department ordered
  13. Denis_SF
    Denis_SF April 5 2013 08: 52 New
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    “In the future, even larger exercises will be held in Georgia” Well, well ..“In the future, even larger exercises will be held in Georgia” Well, well ..


    national ballet "Sukhishvili" performed before the military

    Yes, there the whole army is either a ballet or a choir ..

    The words of the Georgian Minister of Defense that Russia conducted the exercises in the immediate vicinity of the Georgian borders, and "we have halted our attention" are given, excuse me, by some kind of North Korean

    All! Now we are definitely a karachun!
    1. andrejwz
      andrejwz April 5 2013 10: 32 New
      0
      Quote: Denis_SF
      All! Now we are definitely a karachun!

      What, all run just as fast?
      1. Denis_SF
        Denis_SF April 5 2013 12: 58 New
        +2
        Is everyone still running fast?

        Hike at a "tenfold" pace.
      2. datur
        datur April 8 2013 22: 27 New
        0
        What, they still run fast? Duc the name is translated into RUSSIAN - agile spirit (Agile Spirit 2013) !!!! yes laughing
  14. asadov
    asadov April 5 2013 09: 03 New
    +4
    as they say, dogs bark the caravan goes
  15. svp67
    svp67 April 5 2013 09: 11 New
    0
    They can’t calm down that they don’t sit still. It’s interesting when the United States runs out of money for them, to whom will they run to bow?
  16. воронов
    воронов April 5 2013 09: 31 New
    +5
    It is necessary to repeat the joint "exercises" with the Georgians, which we held in August 2008. laughing
  17. Averias
    Averias April 5 2013 09: 34 New
    +5
    “We have doubled our attention” - and this is how? With one pair of binoculars in ten, they now observe what is happening on our side.
  18. dmitry46
    dmitry46 April 5 2013 10: 22 New
    +1
    Better to run a race with the Americans!
    They carry some nonsense .....
  19. Dim1
    Dim1 April 5 2013 10: 23 New
    -14
    Looks like. Russia will lose Transcaucasia, they are very active in the direction of the United States. And there, Armenia will sharch.
    1. Ascetic
      Ascetic April 5 2013 11: 06 New
      10
      Quote: Dim1
      Looks like. Russia will lose Transcaucasia, they are very active in the direction of the United States. And there, Armenia will sharch.


      And a universal holiday will come in Transcaucasia .. everyone will immediately trade in the markets of America, set their laws there, arrange shooting and stabbing in the streets of Washington and New York, cut sheep and hide from the FBI in their independent countries. laughing
      1. Yeraz
        Yeraz April 5 2013 11: 18 New
        +7
        Quote: Ascetic
        Quote: Dim1
        Looks like. Russia will lose Transcaucasia, they are very active in the direction of the United States. And there, Armenia will sharch.


        And a universal holiday will come in Transcaucasia .. everyone will immediately trade in the markets of America, set their laws there, arrange shooting and stabbing in the streets of Washington and New York, cut sheep and hide from the FBI in their independent countries. laughing

        Yeah, Jennifer directly introduced the streets of New York, whoa whoa, beautiful, my queen, let's go to the forest, I'll show you laughing
    2. Gari
      Gari April 5 2013 12: 08 New
      +7
      Quote: Dim1
      Looks like. Russia will lose Transcaucasia, they are very active in the direction of the United States. And there, Armenia will sharch.

      Do not grunt - choke
      1. Ascetic
        Ascetic April 5 2013 15: 02 New
        +6
        Quote: Gari
        Do not grunt - choke


        Soon the United States will be called the United States of Armenia laughing
        And Yura Movsisyan will be elected president good
        1. Gari
          Gari April 5 2013 16: 56 New
          +2
          Quote: Ascetic
          Soon the United States will be called the United States of Armenia
          And Yura Movsisyan will be elected president

          here about Yura Movsisyan - a good idea
          1. Artmark
            Artmark April 8 2013 22: 29 New
            -1
            Yura let football play hiHe is not bad at it !! drinks
    3. Artmark
      Artmark April 6 2013 22: 08 New
      +3
      Maybe they will try but ... as long as there is a fraternal union Armenia-Russia, then everyone understands that there is nothing to catch! hi
      1. Thunderbolt
        Thunderbolt April 6 2013 22: 34 New
        +4
        Here I am, too, of the opinion that the Russian military base in Armenia is not for suprematism, but a real military large unit, "the main initiator of the world in the Caucasus", as well as an effective pacifier of Turkey and other ugliness. Special greetings to the guys who work on the S-300 ... soldier Do not relax, around there are many lovers who clap their jaws. drinks
        1. Artmark
          Artmark April 6 2013 23: 25 New
          +3
          I agree, but in my opinion these jaws remember the power of the fist drinks hi
          1. Thunderbolt
            Thunderbolt April 7 2013 00: 09 New
            +1
            ARA DZHAN Turkish blood has cooled down on triangular, linear bayonets? Do you need fresh? Oh, how I read songs about the great Turkistan, and parallelly ---- the Wahhabi world to the upper reaches of the Russian Volga River. And this is not nonsense, they are actively preparing for this and arming themselves. You have to be an Over-hitter in order to immerse a historically definite enemy in his natural, in the presence of Russian forces, con (the crowbars speak and so it is clear) system. forum monster, from whom something was stolen and he wants to deprive lives for it. Well, then, everything is like -Bashlachu? -Cut the throats of babies, especially obstinate throats. Well, well, as one loser said --- artillery- go-go
  20. shurup
    shurup April 5 2013 10: 36 New
    +1
    Cheered the second left in the front row in the photo.
    That's what happens when you wear tight underpants. On the beach in front of the girls is beautiful, but in the ranks it’s normal not to get up - they rubbed it.
  21. Opera
    Opera April 5 2013 10: 40 New
    +1
    In the comments to the article they write whether it is necessary or not to pay attention to the Georgians ...
    It is necessary to pay attention to the Georgians!
    And of course, in every possible way to strengthen our military component in the region.
  22. sichevik
    sichevik April 5 2013 11: 12 New
    +2
    Good day to all.
    You need to pay attention to everyone. And underestimate no one. Small bug, but smelly. So it is with these warriors. While they blather one by one, then there’s nothing to worry about. But when they all come together, then this is already no threat, but a threat.
    Jackals also do not attack one by one. And having gathered in a flock - they pose a threat even to large predators.
    And the fact that they began to conduct real exercises. and not window dressing in the style of "a la stool" it pleases. Very happy !!!
  23. crambol
    crambol April 5 2013 11: 27 New
    +1
    "In the future, even larger exercises will be held in Georgia."


    “In the future, even larger exercises will be held in Georgia US troops».

    That will be right. And the Georgians will put tens of millions into poverty, like the Papuans, so that they don’t raise their tail.
  24. Gari
    Gari April 5 2013 12: 03 New
    +3
    St. George's treatise

    At the end of 1782, Kartli-Kakheti Tsar Irakli II appealed to the Empress of Russia Catherine II with a request to accept Georgia under the protection of Russia. In an effort to strengthen Russia's position in the Transcaucasus, Catherine II granted Pavel Potemkin broad powers to conclude an agreement with Tsar Irakli. Authorized from the Georgian side were the princes Ivane Bagration-Mukhransky and Garsevan Chavchavadze.
    Under the agreement, Tsar Irakli II recognized the patronage of Russia and partially refused an independent foreign policy, committing himself to serve the Russian Empress with his troops. Catherine II, for her part, acted as the guarantor of the independence and integrity of the territories of Kartli-Kakheti. Georgia was granted full internal independence. The parties exchanged messengers.
    The treaty equalized the rights of Georgian and Russian nobles, clergy and merchants (respectively).
    Of particular importance were the 4 secret articles of the treaty. According to them, Russia pledged to defend Georgia in the event of war, and in conducting peace negotiations, insist on the return to the Kartli-Kakheti kingdom of possessions that had long belonged to him (but were torn away by Turkey). Russia pledged to keep two infantry battalions in Georgia and in case of war to increase the number of its troops.
    At the same time, Georgians were urged to maintain unity and avoid internecine strife, for which Heraclius II had to make peace with Tsar Imereti Solomon I.
    The main political significance of the St. George Treatise was to establish a protectorate of Russia with respect to Eastern Georgia, sharply weakening the positions of Iran and Turkey in the Caucasus, formally destroying their claims to Eastern Georgia.
    In 1783, in connection with the conclusion of the St. George Treatise, the construction of the Georgian Military Road between Georgia and Russia was started, along which several fortifications were built, including the fortress of Vladikavkaz (1784).
    The population was about 1 million.
    In 1991 - 5 million.
  25. Prapor Afonya
    Prapor Afonya April 5 2013 12: 12 New
    0
    It seems to me that the teachings mean the repetition of August 08, well, well then they received a little, let them come again, mother Russia has all the lead laughing
  26. tupolev-95
    tupolev-95 April 5 2013 13: 28 New
    +1
    In politics, you can’t do with half measures. It was necessary to take Tbilisi in 2008, now there would be a government loyal to Russia that would remove many issues in the Caucasus, and Misha would swim upside down in a bath with Berezovsky (the government is in exile).
    1. Gari
      Gari April 5 2013 14: 30 New
      +4
      And what was it to take, the commandos stood in Gori for 80 km, Tbilisi, and there were no Georgian troops, controlled all of Georgia to the port of Poti
      Why do you chew on plastka?
    2. sichevik
      sichevik April 5 2013 14: 55 New
      +3
      Roman, do we need it? The government of Georgia, loyal to Russia, must be fed and supported. Well, how much dough would have to be thrown into such a "friendly" to Russia Georgia? Considering that Georgians by their nature are all thieves without exception. I declare this categorically because. what do I know. He served with them in the ranks of the Soviet Army. As fighters they are so-so, neither fish nor meat. But as thieves and bastards - they are in the forefront. So. that Georgia, loyal to Russia, is a deliberately losing and unprofitable project. A bottomless abyss of money. And in the end they will still betray. In one word, prostitutes.
      Than such friends, it’s better to be enemies ....
  27. OlegYugan
    OlegYugan April 5 2013 13: 52 New
    +1
    tupolev-95 : Take Tbilisi ?? belay Negativity would be greater.
    by article
    - Large-scale exercises require a lot of money - and the Georgians apparently have them in Val, well, they don’t know where to spend it. And then Russia has nothing more to do as soon as fuss with the Georgians arrange.
    - It’s interesting to conduct exercises involving other states, in particular Azerbaijan and Turkey! So Turkey seems to have soaped itself in BRICS - Georgians do not know what.
    - Attracting Azerbaijan with such exercises may negatively affect Armenia, and then what should she do? It may also conduct regional exercises with Russia and Iran.
    Oh, Georgians finish playing.
    1. tupolev-95
      tupolev-95 April 5 2013 14: 03 New
      +1
      I don’t know for what reasons they didn’t take it, but Russia usually ended wars this way - by taking the enemy’s capital, and so the West believes that it was he who stopped Russia. And now this "Banania" will shit on little things wherever it can.
      1. sichevik
        sichevik April 5 2013 14: 59 New
        0
        Yes, and let yourself this rodent or banana crap. We are their nasty things to the ass.
        THE DOG Barks, AND THE CARAVAN IS GOING !!!
        They only make themselves worse.
  28. OlegYugan
    OlegYugan April 5 2013 14: 11 New
    +1
    Thank God it may not be much laughing
    Let the Embargo announce to us.
  29. Vtel
    Vtel April 5 2013 14: 16 New
    +2
    And all the same it's nice, they are afraid - it means they respect! "Listen daraga, cheat did not wait, huh? Then come on bye!"
    1. Geokingxnumx
      Geokingxnumx April 5 2013 14: 18 New
      -1
      Quote: Vtel
      fear

      do not be afraid of fools
      1. sichevik
        sichevik April 5 2013 15: 05 New
        +6
        Fools are not afraid to throw "Grads" into peaceful quarters of Tskhinval. Yes, at the peacekeepers, armed only with small arms, from tanks and artillery direct fire. Here they are heroes, ahead of the rest of the planet. And as soon as they encountered units of the regular army, they rushed back like this. that they could not be stopped. Georgians love to fight with civilians and with a tenfold advantage. But with an equal or with a stronger opponent does not work. Diarrhea interferes.
        1. Geokingxnumx
          Geokingxnumx April 5 2013 17: 13 New
          -2
          Quote: sichevik
          Fools are not afraid to throw "Grads" into peaceful quarters of Tskhinval. Yes, on the peacekeepers, armed only with small arms, from tanks and artillery direct fire. Here they are heroes, ahead of the rest of the planet. And as soon as they encountered units of the regular army, they rushed back like this. that they could not be stopped. Georgians love to fight with civilians and with a tenfold advantage. And with an equal or with a stronger opponent does not work. Diarrhea meshes

          I would answer in a serial, but then the top of the comment I read it
          Quote: sichevik
          Yes, and let yourself this rodents or banana crap. We are their nasty things to the ass.

          and changed his mind, It makes no sense to speak with people like you) it does not matter what nationality he is
          1. sichevik
            sichevik April 5 2013 19: 13 New
            0
            By nationality I am Ukrainian and the fact that you do not want to talk to me only makes me happy. With rodents, I talk zapadlo.
            1. Geokingxnumx
              Geokingxnumx April 5 2013 23: 07 New
              0
              Quote: sichevik
              By nationality I am Ukrainian

              fine
              Quote: sichevik
              oh that you don’t want to talk to me it only makes me happy

              smile
              Quote: sichevik
              With rodents, I talk zapadlo.

              good luck! I won’t fall to your level)))
              1. sichevik
                sichevik April 6 2013 14: 51 New
                0
                And you and your people have already fallen below the lowest level.
                Abkhazian and South Ossetian families were slaughtered and robbed. They raped their women. They captured them at home. You and your fellow tribesmen have nowhere to fall.
                1. Geokingxnumx
                  Geokingxnumx April 7 2013 00: 46 New
                  -1
                  Quote: sichevik
                  And you and your people have already fallen below the lowest level.
                  Abkhazian and South Ossetian families were slaughtered and robbed. They raped their women. They captured them at home. You and your fellow tribesmen have nowhere to fall.

                  what are you) yes there were mkhedriontsi who robbed these people and in our history their names are blacklisted! Mkhedrointsov and Shevardnadze you put on the head of Georgia! it’s you who saved Shevardnadze! it’s you who raised Shamil Basaev and other monsters! ! what do you know about the war? there is nothing!
                  you are a victim of prorogandi not good you but also yours and our compatriots! but do not teach me what happened My country these 20 years.
  30. Feka
    Feka April 5 2013 14: 32 New
    +2
    I should add that at the closing ceremony of the exercises, the servicemen of the 23rd battalion of the 2nd Infantry Brigade of the Georgian Army worked out choral singing skills, and 350 American Marines quietly ached from such a sight, had to drink wine, so there was a feast.
    During the exercises, the skills of a heroic advance from the border towards Tbilisi were consolidated BEFORE the cowardly retreating Russian troops.
  31. Corsair
    Corsair April 5 2013 14: 34 New
    +4
    Quote: voronov

    It is necessary to repeat the joint "exercises" with the Georgians, which we held in August 2008.
    The 2008 "teachings" did not enter a "logical wrap-up phase." request Will Georgia insist on continuing?
  32. Gari
    Gari April 5 2013 14: 44 New
    +1
    17 September 2012 years
    in the south of Russia, the strategic command-staff exercises Kavkaz-2012 began, in which about eight thousand people and several hundred units of military equipment will be involved.
    The events, continuing a series of major exercises, involved military personnel of the Southern Military District, as well as representatives of the high command. The purpose of the Caucasus 2012 is to improve the interaction of troops and improve combat skills at all levels of the armed forces, from the infantry squad to the command of the military district. The training grounds were the Rayevskoye, Ashuluk, Kapustin Yar and Prudboy training grounds. Actions at different training grounds begin in accordance with the action plan and involve the participation of various arms of the armed forces. In the same way, combat training missions posed to army units differ.

    17 September 2012 years
    At the Baghramyan training ground of the Armed Forces of the Republic of Armenia, during the joint operational-strategic exercise “Interaction-2012” with the Collective Rapid Response Force (CRRF) of the member states of the Collective Security Treaty Organization (CSTO), a general training was conducted on the development of practical actions troops (forces).

    During the training, all episodes of the exercise were worked out as planned. Four helicopters parachuted and attacked the Russian paratroopers landed from the 98th Guards Airborne Division (Ivanovo) and the soldiers of 103 special forces brigades of the Armed Forces of the Republic of Belarus, which, together with the Kazakh airborne troops, blocked the positions of the conditional enemy - “ blue. " Combat helicopters MI-24 and attack aircraft-SU-25, as well as artillery and Grad multiple-launch rocket systems, hit the irregular "blue" armed formations. The units of the special forces team of the Armenian Armed Forces, members of the CRRF, having taken the "enemy" into the ring, with the support of armored vehicles completed its rout, displacing those remaining beyond the state border line.

    Our answer to Curzon
  33. SIT
    SIT April 5 2013 16: 33 New
    +3
    Turkey and Georgia are a corridor for the Syrian "rebels". When they finish there and start working on Iran, if Russia supports Iran, or anyway after they do away with Iran, all this bearded rascal through the Kodori Gorge of Georgia will creep into Chechnya and then spread throughout the North Caucasus. Georgia itself as a state does not mean anything here. This is just a springboard for the transfer of Arab springs further north and east. Sorry for the common people. They are simply used in the dark and bred like suckers with all sorts of slogans about independence and national sovereignty. Indeed, the United States understands very well (and especially after the trial balloon on 08.08.08/XNUMX/XNUMX) what will begin on this bridgehead in the event that jihad is exported to Russia.
  34. sanyabasik
    sanyabasik April 5 2013 16: 48 New
    0
    My personal subjective opinion: nothing terrible would have happened if Russia had informed its neighbors about the beginning of the exercises, no matter what in scale. The country's image as a strong respectable neighbor would certainly not deteriorate from this. After all, sooner or later, relations need to be improved, and such "little things" sometimes play a significant role ..
  35. Humpty
    Humpty April 5 2013 17: 30 New
    +3
    Bagration and Cantaria must have rolled over looking at their homeland.
  36. knn54
    knn54 April 5 2013 18: 39 New
    +2
    "We have reduced attention"
    10x0 = 0!
    1. Navy7981
      Navy7981 April 5 2013 19: 38 New
      +1
      "We have tenfold attention" correctly !!! You need to very accurately catch the moment when you need to make legs wink
  37. Navy7981
    Navy7981 April 5 2013 19: 42 New
    +3
    But seriously, I think that any enemy can be hated, but must be respected. And the army of Liechtenstein and the Georgian. It’s bad if at least one of our soldiers dies in the conflict, just because they thought - where did the snipers come from ?! Getting ready, it is always necessary for a real war.
  38. Yarbay
    Yarbay April 5 2013 21: 42 New
    -1
    Quote: Navy7981

    But seriously, I think that any enemy can be hated, but must be respected. And the army of Liechtenstein and the Georgian. It’s bad if at least one of our soldiers dies in the conflict, just because they thought - where did the snipers come from ?!

    and in general the Georgian army acted competently !!
    In this direction they had no fortified areas, front !! If they had not retreated in time, they would have been surrounded, and there either destruction or captivity!
    It would be much more shameful!
  39. Malleus
    Malleus April 5 2013 22: 25 New
    +1
    Maybe not quite in the subject, but still ....
    I'd like to broadcast the news (a trifle, it would seem, but ....):
    "About 70 Georgian recruits left the Paldo military base in Kakheti without permission. This is with reference to local media reports "Interfax".

    According to the soldiers who went home on foot, they were unhappy that they had to clean the toilets.

    One of the leaders of the parliamentary opposition of Georgia, Giorgi Baramidze, commented on this incident, saying that “instead of prosecuting political opponents, the Minister of Defense Irakli Alasania should deal with solving objective problems in the ministry.”

    The chairman of the parliamentary committee on defense and security, Irakli Sesiashvili, in turn, believes that "there is nothing alarming," since this is not about military personnel, but about recruits "who undergo initial military training and did not withstand field conditions."
    "
    I don’t mock and the staff will understand - this is a serious moment with all the (supposedly) comic.
    Source: http://www.gazeta.ru/social/news/2013/04/05/n_2837397.shtml

    PS
    "soldiers" and the like - reprint
    1. Gari
      Gari April 6 2013 00: 04 New
      0
      More than two hundred conscript soldiers left the location of their military unit in eastern Georgia, Georgia Online reported, citing NewPosts. Earlier it became known that more than eighty soldiers left the unit, and one of the deserters explained their step by the reluctance to carry out the commander’s order to clean the latrines.
      According to the Georgian media, the soldiers left the Paldo field camp, covered the distance of 15 kilometers on foot, and then returned home using various means. They left weapons in parts.
  40. honest jew
    honest jew April 6 2013 01: 04 New
    0
    More than two hundred conscript soldiers left the location of their military unit in eastern Georgia without permission. This was reported on Friday, April 5, "Georgia Online". Earlier it became known that more than eighty soldiers left the unit, and one of the deserters explained their step by the reluctance to carry out the commander’s order to clean the latrines.

    “We soldiers are there to learn the art of war, and not to scrub the toilets,” the soldier said in an interview with Rustavi 2. “If scrubbing toilets is a priority for them, that was unacceptable to us, and we left.” According to Georgian media, having left the Paldo field camp, the soldiers covered a distance of 15 kilometers on foot, and then returned home by various means. They left the weapons in the unit.
  41. GOLUBENKO
    GOLUBENKO April 6 2013 01: 36 New
    0
    But if the United States is going to participate in the exercises a priori, then it becomes, to put it mildly, not entirely clear why the exercises that may start in Georgia next year are called by the Georgian authorities regional? Or Tbilisi has already completely ceased to hide that the USA is a regional (Caucasian) state due to the use of Georgian territory for its own purposes ...

    So this is a no brainer that modern Georgia is the state of Georgia-2 under the control of the governor appointed by the Washington regional committee. Georgia is an absolutely dependent and sold US state and everything that it broadcasts against Russia is edited by the State Department.
  42. Tatarus
    Tatarus April 6 2013 13: 20 New
    +1
    Quote: GOLUBENKO
    Georgia is absolutely dependent and sold by the USA state

    Not Georgia, but the Georgian elite. Well, in the sense of Elite Georgian Political Gays