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Russian prisoner Guantanamo refused to meet with representatives of the Russian Federation

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Contained in a US Navy base in Guantanamo (Cuba), Russian citizen Ravil Mingazov refused to meet with officials of his country. In this regard, the US government will not be able to organize a meeting with the representatives of Russia for Mingazov, said Victoria Nuland, spokesperson for the US State Department, at a regular briefing for journalists on Wednesday at 3 in April.


According to her, "the Russian government sent a request for a meeting with Mr. Mingazov, who is imprisoned in Guantanamo." Washington informed Moscow that Mingazov "through his lawyer refused to meet with any Russian delegation," said a spokeswoman for the US foreign ministry. In this regard, the diplomat noted, "we will not be able to organize the interview requested by the Russian side, since we adhere to the long-standing policy that such meetings (to the prisoners of the Guantanamo camp) are not imposed, if there is no voluntary consent."

As Nuland added, the US administration offered to take the Russian delegation to Guantanamo so that it could gain a broader view of the functioning of this special prison, which contains persons suspected of terrorist activities and detained mainly in Afghanistan and Pakistan during the operation launched after the 11 attacks September 2001 of the year. "This invitation remains in force," the spokesperson for the State Department said.

According to reports, Mingazov was imprisoned in Guantanamo in 2002, after his arrest by US intelligence in the house of a Pakistani who had connections with al-Qaeda. The American side also suspected that a Russian was being trained in terrorist camps in Afghanistan. Mingazov himself denied the charges.

Earlier, a total of eight Russians were held at Guantanamo, but seven of them were subsequently repatriated. In the past, Russian officials have already visited the Guantanamo prison.

In the past, the number of "inhabitants" of Guantanamo exceeded 600 people, now there are 166 prisoners. Prisoners are actually in a legal vacuum. Of the remaining prisoners in Guantanamo, 86 has already been considered unharmed by US authorities. 22 January 2009, Barack Obama almost immediately after he began exercising the powers of the President of the United States signed a decree on closing the Guantanamo prison within a year. Nevertheless, this institution still exists and is the cause of harsh criticism of the United States by human rights defenders. Now in prison in Guantanamo for the second month a mass hunger strike of prisoners is taking place, ITAR-TASS reports.
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  1. elmi
    elmi April 4 2013 11: 26
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    But what's the point of meeting and hoping for a rescue if the example of Booth says a lot? Earlier during the union, in response to the detention of our citizen, we responded with a similar detention of the American
    1. Nesvet Nezar
      Nesvet Nezar April 4 2013 13: 45
      +2
      Quote: elmi
      But what's the point of meeting and hoping for a rescue if the example of Booth says a lot? Earlier during the union, in response to the detention of our citizen, we responded with a similar detention of the American


      Not everyone is just there with this citizen. He got lost. He apparently inherited at home, once he got in touch with the Islamists. These shameful ones only discredit Islam.
      1. Civil
        Civil April 4 2013 19: 07
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        Quote: Nesarya Nesvet
        Quote: elmi
        But what's the point of meeting and hoping for a rescue if the example of Booth says a lot? Earlier during the union, in response to the detention of our citizen, we responded with a similar detention of the American


        Not everyone is just there with this citizen. He got lost. He apparently inherited at home, once he got in touch with the Islamists. These shameful ones only discredit Islam.


        there is no such thing as "Islamist" .. this is a synthesis of the two words Islam and terrorist, this is a comrade closer to terrorists ... sorry for Ravil, he was brainwashed
        1. crazyrom
          crazyrom April 8 2013 02: 38
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          It is evidently not in vain that he is sitting in that prison, it is obvious there is something for that, since he is afraid to meet with us.
    2. Geisenberg
      Geisenberg April 4 2013 16: 24
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      And we believed that he refused? He will say everything that will please the owners of the concentration camp.
      1. kostiknet
        kostiknet April 4 2013 16: 43
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        Quote: Geisenberg
        And we believed that he refused?

        Of course he refused, himself! Voluntarily! It’s just for fun to sit in jail without charge. wassat (By the way, how many people have been seized there by the will of the "Chief Democrat"? Already 10 years?) And in general, how can you not trust the American administration? They never lie !!! They are delusional - it happens (all the time), they carry all kinds of "crap", out of the stupidity of their bestial ..... But they don't lie. Morons simply do not know how! laughing
        1. Mikhail3
          Mikhail3 April 4 2013 18: 35
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          It may well be that he is afraid to get a pen in the eye from our diplomat, right up to the occipital bone. There are some Russians who, to put it mildly, are not expected in their homeland. Given that the others were released (and a shish would have been released without our diplomatic assistance and pressure), it is unlikely that he is especially kept there. If he was our scout, he wouldn’t have stayed in sight. He would have gone unknown and only ...
    3. Kolya
      Kolya April 4 2013 19: 32
      0
      May the White House keep this prison for itself!
  2. Stiletto
    Stiletto April 4 2013 11: 26
    +8
    If he really refused, then let him continue to sit, what is the problem ?!
    1. Hudo
      Hudo April 4 2013 11: 34
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      Quote: Stiletto
      If he really refused, then let him continue to sit, what is the problem ?!

      The problem, first of all, is that the Nulands do not want Mingazov to share his knowledge and the circle of his acquaintances with the special services of the Russian Federation among terrorists.

      From this story PINDos' ears stick out, even across the Atlantic can be seen. No matter how he "suddenly" died from an unknown disease.
      1. Oshin
        Oshin April 4 2013 13: 08
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        we will not be able to arrange the interview requested by the Russian side, because we adhere to a long-standing policy that such meetings (to prisoners of the camp in Guantanamo) are not imposed if there is no voluntary consent
        Quote: Hudo
        The problem, first of all, is that the Nulands do not want Mingazov to share his knowledge and the circle of his acquaintances with the special services of the Russian Federation among terrorists.

        Precisely noticed!
        1. Beck
          Beck April 4 2013 21: 36
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          And what to worry about? A person is in Guantanomo not on suspicion of criminality or fraud, but on suspicion of involvement in al-Qaeda. Everything is there
          . They were arrested in Afghanistan, Pakistan. And Pakistan is haunted by its Al Qaeda schools.

          Why did Ravil not want to meet with representatives of Russia? Let’s drop the nursery, which the camp administration did not allow him. If I hadn’t solved it, the question of a meeting would not have stood at all. Most likely he does not consider Russia his homeland. He does not want to recognize the legitimate authority in the representatives. Most likely he is a member of al-Qaeda and for him the enemies are the United States and Russia. His mission is to serve the faith, orthodox faith.

          That's why he is needed in Russia? To organize a circle of orthodox Islamists? To put together a gang of terrorists? To suicide bomb the subway?

          He does not want to meet with representatives of Russia, so he does not want to return to his homeland, so he wants to stay in Guantanomo as a fighter for faith.
      2. in reserve
        in reserve April 4 2013 15: 28
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        Hudo
        The problem, first of all, is that the Nulands do not want Mingazov to share his knowledge and the circle of his acquaintances with the special services of the Russian Federation among terrorists.


        Naive, even if there was a meeting, he would not even tell the truth how they are treated there, for the sake of his safety. And even more so he did not share any information.
        Well, maybe he has something to do with our special services, and that is not even a fact.
        Most likely these are mutual checks of the "execution of sentences" systems, since the Americans accuse us of violating the rights of prisoners, and we are doing the same. In general, we are looking for violations.
        1. Hudo
          Hudo April 4 2013 16: 47
          +1
          Quote: in stock
          Most likely these are mutual checks of the "execution of sentences" systems, since the Americans accuse us of violating the rights of prisoners, and we are doing the same. In general, we are looking for violations.


          You are probably right, only the prisoner himself refused, why? Surely they did not come to him empty-handed - as a standard, they brought news from relatives. Perhaps he would have pecked to change the American cage to the Russian camera. He, in the end, would not be recruited on the premises.
    2. Atlon
      Atlon April 4 2013 12: 17
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      Quote: Stiletto
      If he really refused, then let him continue to sit, what is the problem ?!

      Most likely, a snout in a gun. Afraid, as if at home, they didn’t pull for Faberge, for old sins.
    3. AlNikolaich
      AlNikolaich April 4 2013 19: 20
      +1
      Quote: Stiletto
      If he really refused, then let him continue to sit, what is the problem ?!

      It’s not so simple to see ... Well, he does not want to be questioned by the FSB for questioning. And she doesn’t want to go to our prison! Apparently there is something ...
  3. svp67
    svp67 April 4 2013 11: 35
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    Who knows what kind of "soul" this person has. Maybe it's better for him not to return to Russia ...
    1. sergo0000
      sergo0000 April 4 2013 12: 07
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      Quote: svp67
      Who knows what kind of "soul" this person has. Maybe it's better for him not to return to Russia ...

      I agree. Not all there are innocent lambs!
      Maybe he doesn't want his relatives in Tataria or Bashkiria (judging by his surname) to know about his "exploits" on the Islamic front.
      1. Atlon
        Atlon April 4 2013 12: 18
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        Quote: sergo0000
        Maybe he doesn't want his relatives in Tataria or Bashkiria (judging by his surname) to know about his "exploits" on the Islamic front.

        "I stay! I will live here !!!" (film "Brother-2")
        1. sergo0000
          sergo0000 April 4 2013 15: 35
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          Quote: Atlon
          Quote: sergo0000
          Maybe he doesn't want his relatives in Tataria or Bashkiria (judging by his surname) to know about his "exploits" on the Islamic front.

          "I stay! I will live here !!!" (film "Brother-2")


          How to know, how to know)))
  4. dmitry46
    dmitry46 April 4 2013 11: 35
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    And what was this "comrade" doing in the house of some Pakistani? And why refuses to meet?
    Maybe it's right that he sits there? We all know that many terrorists were trained in Pakistan ....
  5. Black
    Black April 4 2013 11: 36
    +4
    Refused himself (there is no reason not to believe the Americans) in this case - it means a snout in the roofing bucket. Better - let him sit in Guantanomo than run through the mountains near Gudermes.
    1. SCS
      SCS April 4 2013 11: 44
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      I wonder what reasons Americans have to believe? to say and to desire are two different things, all the more so being in captivity!
    2. SCS
      SCS April 4 2013 11: 45
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      - "than running through the mountains near Gudermes."
      -----
      I absolutely agree with you on this!
    3. SCS
      SCS April 4 2013 11: 48
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      - "than running through the mountains near Gudermes."
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      I absolutely agree with you on this! and what are the reasons to believe the Americans, even in this case?
  6. Sirocco
    Sirocco April 4 2013 11: 46
    +4
    As if Mrs. Nuland, did not send this specialist to us in the Caucasus. Whatever it was, but an adequate person would meet, still he has relatives. And this one apparently already made a decision. So our Specialists need to wait for this intruder. am
  7. crambol
    crambol April 4 2013 11: 55
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    Russian prisoner Guantanamo refused to meet with representatives of the Russian Federation


    Probably not in vain. Maybe he has a snout in the fluff.
    1. Garrin
      Garrin April 4 2013 11: 59
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      Quote: crambol
      Probably not in vain. Maybe he has a snout in the fluff.

      Probably. Apparently, there is so much shit here that the amers are dearer than their own.
  8. Hudo
    Hudo April 4 2013 11: 57
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    Quote: Stiletto
    If he really refused, then let him continue to sit, what is the problem ?!

    The problem, first of all, is that the Nulands do not want Mingazov to share his knowledge and the circle of his acquaintances with the special services of the Russian Federation among terrorists.

    From this story PINDos' ears stick out, even across the Atlantic can be seen. No matter how he "suddenly" died from an unknown disease.
  9. Manager
    Manager April 4 2013 13: 00
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    Russian citizen Ravil Mingazov .....
    Still would have written a native Moskvich ....
  10. fzr1000
    fzr1000 April 4 2013 14: 06
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    It’s simple that he’ll not be disappointed in anything.
  11. Dim1
    Dim1 April 4 2013 15: 06
    +1
    Quote: Sirocco
    As if Mrs. Nuland, did not send this specialist to us in the Caucasus. Whatever it was, but an adequate person would meet, still he has relatives. And this one apparently already made a decision. So our Specialists need to wait for this intruder. am

    A very probable guess.
  12. assaker
    assaker April 4 2013 15: 43
    0
    He decays and so he wants to, but the comment is off topic a little bit, but it accurately reflects the whole essence of this situation!
  13. penguin
    penguin April 4 2013 15: 48
    0
    scared him apparently home.
  14. AleksUkr
    AleksUkr April 4 2013 16: 59
    0
    Or maybe another assumption has the right to exist? - AT OUR TEAMLESS MID, ONLY HARM YOURSELF ...
  15. VadimSt
    VadimSt April 4 2013 18: 40
    +1
    Too much attention to every Butami, Polonsky and Mingazov!

    Or is it the best part of the Russian people to protect them by all means and means? I think Russia has someone to defend both in the international arena and within Russia itself.

    News materials from post-Soviet states show that the selectivity and illegality of the power of officials and the judiciary sometimes not only amaze, but kill faith and hope for justice and equality.
  16. воронов
    воронов April 4 2013 19: 10
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    And why should he meet with ours, then snub into a cannon, he realized that it is better for him to sit in a slammer with amers in Guantanamo than in his beloved homeland, in a zone, in the Vorkuta region or near Salekhard, obviously amers have better conditions, again the climate is tropical , summer all year round. Somehow, in my service, I had a chance to communicate with a former Guantan prisoner, already in the Russian zone, in the Khanty-Mansi Autonomous Okrug, he was very sorry that he had returned to his homeland, he says: "I am from eternal summer, you can say straight from resort, without any adaptation, got into such a nightmare, and I have long lost the habit of our native Russian reality. " laughing
  17. Byordovvv1
    Byordovvv1 April 4 2013 19: 50
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    He refused, it means he knows that for the crimes committed on the territory of Russia the term of imprisonment for him in his homeland will be much longer.
  18. 120352
    120352 April 4 2013 20: 42
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    And who and where did you get that for Ravil Mingazov Russia is its own country ?! He chose another homeland for himself: Saudi Arabia, the center of world Wahhabism and psychopathy based on Islam. And in no case should he be allowed to come to us. There is nowhere to put your bandits. Half of Leningrad is crammed with them. It became dangerous to go out into the street, all the more so since the police were no longer there, but the police had completely different interests, OWN!
  19. 1goose3
    1goose3 April 5 2013 07: 07
    +1
    Russian prisoner Guantanamo refused to meet with representatives of the Russian Federation

    And who said they refused? Americans !? Is there any way you can trust Americans? So you can close any person you want and say that he likes it, and therefore he does not want to communicate with anyone other than his jailers. The Americans are doing so, and we are discussing why he does not want to return, instead of why he does not want to tell the Russian representative about his unwillingness personally.
    In addition, he is an American prisoner, and therefore the name should be - Russian, the prisoner of Guantanamo, refused further in the text.