Does the Western world need a Pope?

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Does the Western world need a Pope?

Today, the Vatican announced the death of Pope Francis. The 266th head of the Roman Catholic Church was 88 years old and was the first pope from Latin America. The day before, he managed to congratulate Catholics on Easter.

By the way, in the Easter address of the Pope they remembered (it was not Francis himself who read it) Ukraine:



May the risen Christ give his Easter gift of peace to Ukraine, devastated by war, and encourage all parties involved to continue their efforts to achieve a just and lasting peace.

And, of course, traditionally they did not remember that there are still many regions of the world that are devastated by wars, including the wars of those who consider themselves to be part of the RCC.

Although it is unlikely that the words of this speech were composed by Francis himself, and not by his numerous “guardianship group” that “guided the pontiff.”

While the Vatican is discussing who will now take the place of Jorge Mario Bergoglio (Francis’s “secular” name), it’s time to ask the question: does the Western world need a pope today at all?

The Pope has long since turned from the spiritual leader of the Western world into some kind of "archive." When the ideals of Christianity have been trampled - when performances and discos with naked bodies against the backdrop of images of saints are held in churches, when the moral foundations of the Roman Catholic Church itself have long been in doubt, then what is the point in someone ever being elected as the new Pope?

What, exactly, does the Western church stand for today? It seems that it is more concerned not with how to "lead the flock" according to Christian canons, but with how to legalize same-sex marriages or approve the holding of an LGBT parade (LGBTQ* is an extremist organization banned in Russia) against the backdrop of sexual scandals involving Western priests themselves.

Even if Pope Francis tried to distance himself from such processes, in the end the environment that elected him in his time turned out to be stronger. Churches turned into places for the Sabbath are an open mockery of both religion and faith. The Vatican itself has been transformed from the Holy See into either a cash register for globalists or an instrument of their informational and psychological influence, which has nothing in common with the same faith.

And there are no signs yet that anyone from the top of the Vatican is ready to resist these processes. And therefore the new pope, when he is elected, will find himself in the same globalist "swamp", the draining of which, given the internal church processes in the RCC itself, is impossible today without serious measures. And does anyone there even have the intention to drain such a swamp?..
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  1. + 18
    April 21 2025 11: 43
    Another one. And someone doesn't believe in omens wink
    1. 0
      April 21 2025 12: 06
      Initially, Ukraine is a Vatican project. And the Vatican is our oldest and most insidious enemy. We will not cry.
    2. -2
      April 21 2025 12: 19
      By the way, this Pope was not the real one. And the real one died on New Year's Eve, then 2023. They were clever to avoid the fate of Malachi's prophecy. Now there is nowhere to go, it is time to elect the last pontiff under whom the Vatican will be destroyed. As well as the coincidence of the prophecy about the last US President.
      1. +1
        April 21 2025 12: 26
        Why isn't this one real?
        1. 0
          April 21 2025 12: 27
          The Pope is elected for life. Only death can remove him.
        2. -1
          April 21 2025 20: 51
          Quote: glory1974
          Why isn't this one real?

          The rules laid out in the papal bull Ubi periculum of 1274 did not provide for abdication, but stated that elections should begin ten days after the death of the current pope.
          This bull will be used to elect a new Pope now. The coup when St. Celestine was overthrown and imprisoned 700 years ago and his alleged abdication before his murder by his "successor" is a separate topic.
      2. +1
        April 21 2025 17: 50
        Pope Francis has died.

        This will bring some confusion into the ranks of our enemies. I agree, there is no more long-standing open enemy of Rus'-Russia than the papal Vatican. They even supported Hitler. Against us.

        I believe that the Catholic Church will inevitably split. There are many dioceses that are against the globalist agenda, especially LGBT. Africa, Latin America, and Catholic Asia will split away.
    3. +7
      April 21 2025 12: 25
      According to ancient prophecy, Francis was the last Pope before the apocalypse and the second coming.

      900 years ago, the Irish bishop Saint Malachy wrote down cryptic predictions that formed the basis of the book "Prophecy of the Popes."

      He wrote that the last pontiff would be Peter the Roman, under whom the "city on seven hills" (traditionally considered to be Rome) would fall, and the Lord would come to judge people. It is important that the prophecy specifically indicates the year of the end of the world - 2027.

      Coincidence or not, the current (now deceased) Pope Francis (Jorge Mario Bergoglio) is 112th on Malachy's list, and after him, according to the prophecy, power will pass to that same Peter the Roman.

      Many of the descriptions of previous Popes, given in Latin phrases, are remarkably accurate: Pope John XXII (1316–1334) – called “de sutore ossed” (“from the bony shoemaker”). He really did come from a shoemaker’s family, and his surname was Ossa (Latin ossa – “bone”). Pope Urban VIII (1623–1644) – received the prophecy “lilium et rosa” (“lily and rose”). His family coat of arms really did feature lilies and roses. John Paul II (1978–2005) – was prophesied as “De labore solis” (“an eclipse of the sun”). He was born and died during solar eclipses. Benedict XVI (2005–2013) – called “Gloria Olivae” (“Glory of the olive”). As it turns out, this is due to the fact that the Benedictine monastic order was called "olives".

      If the prophecy is to be believed, Francis will be followed by Peter the Roman, and then the world will be plunged into chaos. Many historians and religious scholars are skeptical of Malachi's predictions, considering them a late hoax. However, the coincidences continue to intrigue and frighten.

      Is this really true? We will find out in the coming years…

      "Notepad Russia 18+"
      1. +3
        April 21 2025 13: 11
        Quote: Comrade Beria
        the last pontiff will be Peter the Roman, under whom the "city on seven hills" ... will fall, and the Lord will come to judge people

        Any prophecies about the Second Coming are cut to the roots by the words of Christ from the Gospel:
        “But of that day or that hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.” (Matt. 24:36)
        1. -1
          April 21 2025 17: 52
          I'll add a little. Before the Apocalypse, Saint Elijah must definitely return.
          1. 0
            April 21 2025 17: 55
            Quote: Ilya-spb
            Before the Apocalypse, Saint Elijah must return.

            And Enoch. And the Antichrist will rule for forty-two months, that is, three and a half years. The only period that is clearly defined.
            1. 0
              April 22 2025 10: 16
              The question arises)
              According to Malachi, the end of the world, that is, the apocalypse, is scheduled for 2027.
              If you believe the procedure, before the onset of the 42nd month, the Antichrist rules. The question is who in the world came to power in 2023 +/- 6 months?
              Apart from Charles III, no one comes to mind.
              1. 0
                April 22 2025 15: 28
                Quote: 2k11
                According to Malachi, the end of the world, that is, the apocalypse, is scheduled for 2027.

                And again: “But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.” (Matt. 24:36)
                By the way, the Apocalypse is not the end of the world, but the Revelation of John the Theologian about the last times and the Second Coming. And the end of the world itself is, rather, Armageddon.
      2. +3
        April 21 2025 13: 48
        According to ancient prophecy
        another mystical nonsense - along with the "prophecies" of Grandma Vanga, Juna, Nostradamus and other riffraff.
        1. -1
          April 21 2025 19: 35
          There is such a book - "Revelations of John the Theologian".

          Considering a saint to be riffraff... It's somehow strange in your words. It's sad.
      3. 0
        April 22 2025 08: 38
        Quote: Comrade Beria
        According to the prophecy, after Francis comes Peter the Roman, and then the world will be plunged into chaos. Many historians and religious scholars are skeptical of Malachi's predictions,

        But chaos is not specifically indicated, what will happen. The collapse of the Catholic world, can also be called chaos
  2. +1
    April 21 2025 11: 48
    I don't have internet in my forest, so I didn't even hear about it. And when did he die?
    1. +1
      April 21 2025 11: 55
      Aaah! Just now. I thought it was the weekend. Rest in peace.
  3. +9
    April 21 2025 11: 49
    And when did the Catholic Church defend any values ​​other than material ones?
  4. +5
    April 21 2025 11: 49
    What good things do I remember about Pope Francis? I only remember that I had the opportunity to go into this church where he was Bishop in Buenos Aires. Maybe he was a good man. And he left well, just after Easter.
  5. +6
    April 21 2025 11: 50
    When the ideals of Christianity have been trampled - when performances and discos with naked bodies against the backdrop of images of saints are held in churches, when the moral foundations of the Roman Catholic Church itself have long been in doubt, then what is the point in anyone ever being elected as the new pope?

    What a way to scare the Vatican. Its walls have seen worse orgies.
    1. +3
      April 21 2025 12: 17
      The author simply doesn't know what popnocracy and chestnut banquet are feel
    2. GAF
      0
      April 21 2025 16: 09
      Quote: Puncher
      What a way to scare the Vatican. Its walls have seen worse orgies.

      The Roman popes had the audacity to consider themselves God's representatives on earth. Half of Christians are not Catholics, and they send these impostor popes "to hell"....
  6. 0
    April 21 2025 11: 53
    The RCC is deeply mired in sinful activity, I don’t even understand how they have the conscience to call themselves deeply religious people, and is it so important who sits on the Holy Throne.
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  7. +2
    April 21 2025 11: 54
    May he rest in peace, but only the Orthodox Church carries the truth.
    1. +3
      April 21 2025 14: 52
      Quote: Ezekiel 25-17
      May he rest in peace, but only the Orthodox Church carries the truth.
      At one time, the Orthodox Church in Russia had more serfs than the state, landowners and boyars, and the life of the monastery serfs was harder than for others. Persecution of literature, theater, painting (except for icon painting), music (except for church music), and finally, the cruel reform of Nikon and Alexei Mikhailovich, which killed a huge number of people, the consequences of which have not yet been completely eliminated. The fact that Russia managed to achieve considerable achievements in culture and science happened in spite of, and not thanks to, the church. And now we are being dragged into the same old swamp. Now there are so many churches built - oh my, so much, and has crime become less than in the USSR? It is greater, despite the increase in the number of security forces, despite the fact that every school and kindergarten has security (which was not the case before). Somehow the "truths" do not help much.
    2. +2
      April 21 2025 15: 20
      Ezekiel 25-17
      (Andrei)
      +2
      Today, 11: 54
      May he rest in peace, but only the Orthodox Church carries the truth.

      Especially with Pope Kirey at the helm? The Church in any state is a servant of the ruling class, its ideological mouthpiece. So there is no need to glorify it!
  8. +2
    April 21 2025 11: 59
    in all this there is only one question that interests me, who will come to replace and his attitude to the khokhlyat nazism
    1. +1
      April 21 2025 18: 03
      Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
      who will replace and his attitude to the khokhlyat nazism

      No matter who comes, the attitude towards any Nazism will remain the same - indifferent.
  9. +4
    April 21 2025 12: 01
    It seems that this was the last pope who called for peace. The next one will be more accommodating and will listen more to EU politicians. And if the clans of Western oligarchs throw in some more money, it may even come to a crusade.
  10. + 11
    April 21 2025 12: 02
    Pope Francis has tried to distance himself from such processes

    Pope Francis was a Jesuit, so we will hardly ever find out who he supported through his banking structure. Words are not to be trusted, only practical actions can be trusted. And the Vatican was not noticed in actions to really resist the spread of rabid Bandera nationalism (at least I have not heard of such). "Pope Francis assured the wives of the Azov fighters that he will do everything possible to save Ukrainian neo-Nazis and will pray for them" - but that did not surprise me... And this despite the fact that the Azov fighters were leading in looting and destroying Christian relics on the territory accessible to them. Therefore, whether the West needs Christianity, I do not know, I know that the Vatican is our enemy and an ally of our enemies under any Pope.
  11. +1
    April 21 2025 12: 02
    Does the Western world need a Pope?

    Throughout its existence, the Catholic Church has fought with the Orthodox Church for leadership. Hence, first the Crusades against Byzantium, then the Crusades against Rus'. In later times, the war between the West and the East - with Russia.
    What now, 1000 years after the great schism!?
    1. The Catholic Church in Europe has undergone a reformation and is now in complete decline.
    2. The Orthodox Church stands as it has stood for centuries. Moreover, in Russia the second baptism of Rus is taking place, when the Orthodox, separated from the Church, from Christ for 100 years, return to the Church again, come to Christ.
    3. The world is witnessing a transition of Christians from Catholicism to Orthodoxy. I believe that as the Catholic Church turns into a branch of obscurantists and outright Satanists, this process will deepen and accelerate.
    I wonder what would happen if the Pope passed away before Easter and was unable to congratulate Catholics on the coming of Easter... I suppose that would be an omen...
    1. +1
      April 21 2025 14: 33
      The Catholic Church was not worried about Orthodoxy. It was more worried about Protestants, Anglicans, Gnostics and others. Catholics are Spaniards, Italians, Poles and Latin Americans, they can't do anything against the Anglo-Saxons these days
      1. 0
        April 21 2025 14: 50
        The Catholic Church was not concerned about Orthodoxy

        This is where you are deeply mistaken. The Catholic Church has fought the Orthodox Church throughout its history. It is enough to recall A. Nevsky and his fight against the Teutons and the Swedes, the Crusades and the plundering of Byzantium and Constantinople by the Crusaders. Moreover, during the Crusades, Orthodox Christians were subjected to the most severe persecution, oppression and murder. After the conquest of Constantinople, the Crusaders generally drowned it in blood. And these are only a few facts. In fact, there are an infinite number of them.
        The Catholic Church has been fighting the Orthodox Church since the schism, trying to destroy Orthodoxy or force it to accept the union. Western Ukraine is an example of this.
        1. +1
          April 21 2025 19: 49
          It is enough to remember A. Nevsky and his fight against the Teutons and the Swedes.
          Novgorod was constantly at war with the Swedes, before Orthodoxy and Catholicism, this is where the Tale of Bygone Years begins - they drove out the Varangians from Volkhov, who lived there, and then called a couple back as an arbitrator-prince. There were quite a few Teutons and they fought with everyone - with the Estonians, and with the completely Catholic Poles and with the Swedes.
          the Crusades and the sack of Byzantium and Constantinople by the Crusaders
          and there were also crusades against the Albigenses, Sicilian Catholics, Muslims and Jews. The latter had nothing to do with it, but for some reason they were the ones who were first smashed along the way.
          Moreover, during the Crusades, Orthodox Christians were subjected to the most severe persecution, oppression and murder. After the conquest of Constantinople, the Crusaders completely drowned it in blood.

          This is called medieval warfare. Back then, everyone was drowned in blood and robbed for all they were worth.
          And these are just some of the facts. In fact, there are an infinite number of them.

          Infinitely many ended in two wars out of many thousands. Compare the degree of confrontation with the Hussite wars, when as a result of the crusades the knights almost died out, and only one out of four Czechs remained, while the Czech Republic fell out of history
          1. -2
            April 22 2025 08: 45
            You, a defender of Catholicism, should stand in front of the church and praise the Pope.
            If everything were as simple as you think, there would not have been a 1000-year schism between Catholics and Orthodox, and the Christian Church would be united. But everything is just the opposite. All the activities of Catholics, the Vatican, the Pope since the Great Schism have been aimed at destroying Orthodoxy. And thank God that the Lord did not allow this. Orthodoxy turned out to be much stronger than Catholicism and the Pope himself. Which is exactly what the decline of Christianity in Catholic Europe demonstrates. Moreover, if things continue like this, the time will come when the throne of the Pope may be forced to move somewhere to South America, where the Catholic Church is preserved. The only thing that Catholic Christians in South America are unlikely to accept is all the sodomite inclinations of the Holy See, and maybe then the Catholic Church will cease to be an enemy of Christianity and Orthodoxy.
            I have nothing more to say to you. Stick to your opinion and defend Catholics, the Vatican and the Pope. Although the Vatican's support of fascism in the 20th century already requires condemnation and repentance. I will leave it at that. You may not answer.
            1. +1
              April 22 2025 10: 41
              Quote: The Truth
              You, a defender of Catholicism, should stand in front of the church and praise the Pope.
              I don't give a damn about the Catholic Church, you just have delusions of grandeur that the Vatican couldn't sleep because of Orthodoxy, that several poor countries believed somehow differently.
              Quote: The Truth
              the Christian church would be united

              nothing of the sort, heresies and schisms were constantly happening here and there, ours don’t have any center, there is the Russian Orthodox Church, there are the Greeks and others.
              Quote: The Truth
              may move somewhere to South America, where the Catholic Church is preserved. The only thing that Catholic Christians in South America are unlikely to accept is all the sodomite inclinations of the Holy See

              it's still a question - where is there more sodomy, in Latin America or in the Vatican, in all sorts of Brazils there is more tolerance for gay parades than in the USA.
              Quote: The Truth
              I have nothing more to say to you. Stick to your opinion and defend Catholics, the Vatican and the Pope. Although the Vatican's support of fascism in the 20th century already requires condemnation and repentance.

              Where did I defend them? You just decided that for some reason the world revolves around Orthodoxy, while this is absolutely not the case. Moreover, the world has not revolved around faith for about six hundred years, and the role of religion was really great only a couple of hundred years in history
  12. +4
    April 21 2025 12: 02
    They don't need a dad - the Western world has parent 1 and parent 2! :)
    1. 0
      April 21 2025 12: 06
      Quote: Kill the fascist
      the western world has parent 1 and parent 2! :)
      parent #1 roman?
      1. +2
        April 21 2025 12: 08
        even if it's Honduran, what business is it of ours?
    2. +1
      April 21 2025 12: 10
      there are plenty of all sorts there are traditionalists and they are the majority, but here the Phil from the screen goes through the wrong door or the Sharia courts are an alternative, but even there there is the ancient custom of bacha-bazi)))
      1. 0
        April 21 2025 12: 15
        bacha-bazi is Afghan, you shouldn't spread this crap to everyone, in our Caucasus they'll immediately condemn bacha and bazi and those who were standing nearby :).
        1. 0
          April 21 2025 12: 16
          plus Pakistan plus our Central Asia in Tashkent, bacha was there until the 1930s, and now the Taliban have introduced the IMD for this, but it doesn't help much
  13. 0
    April 21 2025 12: 04
    May the risen Christ give his Easter gift of peace to Ukraine, devastated by war, and encourage all parties involved to continue their efforts to achieve a just and lasting peace.


    Christ performed some miracles, I like the transformation of water into wine, but due to the lack of brains he was powerless, so the healing of xoxles from a possessed person will not take place.
    1. 0
      April 21 2025 12: 40
      What kind of wine was it? Cahors?
      1. 0
        April 21 2025 13: 27
        Quote: novel xnumx
        What kind of wine was it? Cahors?

        Unlikely. French Cahors appeared in the 17th century. Russian at the end of the 18th. Moreover, for French, the Malbec grape variety is used, and for ours, Cabernet or Merlot.
        Nobody really knows what Jews drank in ancient times. Including because the Muslims, who conquered the Middle East in the 7th century, destroyed all winemaking there.
      2. 0
        April 23 2025 08: 24
        the first one was pure rectified spirit
        1. 0
          April 23 2025 10: 32
          With these technologies? It's... Unlikely..
          1. 0
            April 23 2025 12: 09
            technologies are still old man Hottabych worked three hairs and dad was a donkey became a wonderful young girl
  14. -1
    April 21 2025 12: 07
    The West was left without a pope.
    There is one unemployed Catholic, Self-Propelled Blessed Joe, who is being voted for from the afterlife.
    He needs to advance to the Conclave, victory is guaranteed, the crusade will not organize itself.
  15. +3
    April 21 2025 12: 08
    It's a pity they put the lasso on me at the wrong time, I would have had a drink and gone to the Vatican!
    1. 0
      April 21 2025 12: 40
      Oh! "Gaza Sector" Is it posthumous?
      1. +1
        April 21 2025 13: 29
        Quote: novel xnumx
        Ooh! "Gaza Strip"

        Actually, Vysotsky: “Lecture on the International Situation.”
        1. 0
          April 21 2025 13: 29
          Oh, I made a mistake... Ugh, how embarrassing
          1. +1
            April 21 2025 17: 11
            Quote: novel xnumx
            Oh, I made a mistake... Ugh, how embarrassing

            Come on, Roman. You didn't screw up. You screwed up big time.
            P.S. This is why agents need to be trained from childhood, or recruited.
            1. 0
              April 21 2025 17: 42
              I won't see the medal...
            2. 0
              April 21 2025 17: 50
              Quote: Grim Reaper
              That's why agents need to be trained from childhood, or recruited.

              Well, yes, so that we don’t get caught out on the little things that make up what translators call cultural context.
        2. +1
          April 21 2025 17: 08
          Quote from: nik-mazur
          Quote: novel xnumx
          Ooh! "Gaza Strip"

          Actually, Vysotsky: “Lecture on the International Situation.”


          If only you knew how I ruined my life
          That I could become a pope
          And naturally, I would take you as my mother.

          Well and further in the text

          P.S. I don't doubt for a second that you know, but suddenly, someone doesn't know/remember...
          1. +1
            April 21 2025 17: 16
            Like Roman66. Yeah...well, I screwed up. It's a shame, right?
            1. 0
              April 21 2025 17: 43
              Holy shit!! I'm going to get drunk out of grief
              1. 0
                April 21 2025 17: 53
                Quote: novel xnumx
                I'll go get drunk out of grief.

                A good reason, by the way, to suck down a glass and - to the Vatican!
                1. 0
                  April 21 2025 18: 07
                  No foreign passport....
                  1. 0
                    April 21 2025 19: 07
                    Quote: novel xnumx
                    No foreign passport

                    Well, what can you do? Then I'll just have to drink.
  16. +1
    April 21 2025 12: 10
    Today, the most consistent supporter of the RCC values ​​in the West is Donald Trump. hi
    1. +1
      April 21 2025 13: 04
      Quote: Rage66
      Today, the most consistent supporter of the RCC values ​​in the West is Donald Trump.

      Not exactly, Trump is a Protestant, a Presbyterian, as one of the forms of Protestantism.
      1. +2
        April 21 2025 13: 18
        Thank you, I didn’t know... Oddly enough, I didn’t find any Presbyterians among the largest Protestant movements.
        The largest are designated as Pentecostals, Anglicans and Lutherans. The latter, by the way, can even attend Orthodox churches... True, without prayers...
        1. +1
          April 21 2025 13: 33
          By the way, an atheist does not have the right to be elected to the post of American president, such is freedom and democracy, in some states they will not even appoint to leadership positions, because of atheism.
          The Americans are in such a situation, but in any case it’s not Europe, these guys have hit rock bottom, as they say.
  17. +1
    April 21 2025 12: 16
    I wonder who will be the next pope? (white, black, It, woman)
    1. 0
      April 21 2025 12: 41
      white, black, It, woman

      What, animals aren't people?
    2. 0
      April 21 2025 13: 35
      The next dad will be subject #1 Yes
      1. 0
        April 21 2025 17: 46
        In general, so as not to offend anyone, he should be genderless... Although, what kind of dad is he after that?
        1. +1
          April 21 2025 18: 40
          Since the time of Pope Joan*, candidates for the papacy have been checked for the presence of genitalia, so that such embarrassment does not happen again. The absence of these, whether congenital or [un]acquired, is grounds for disqualification.

          * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_Joan
  18. +2
    April 21 2025 12: 20
    It is precisely stated in the article, these are not his words about Ukraine, it is precisely noted, not a word about Palestine, not about Syria, not about Libya, Sudan, etc.
  19. +2
    April 21 2025 12: 22
    That's it, the boss called. Now he'll get it from the boss for condoning the "rainbow" and for not turning a blind eye to sodomy. winked
  20. +4
    April 21 2025 12: 23
    Wake up ))) There was a real riot in the Vatican even before Ivan the Terrible ascended the throne)) Just read about the weirdness of the medieval Popes, what kind of people became cardinals, what kind of intrigues were woven. The same stories with "anti-popes" who heaped excommunications and curses on each other are worth something.
    The Vatican has always been "about politics" much more than about faith. In our case, the church has become a state instrument pretending to be "independent", but it is no more independent than our media. In the case of the Vatican, it is "sort of" not directly subordinate to anyone, but it, in turn, has already lost most of its levers of influence. The Vatican today resembles the UN in some way, a kind of Leopold the Cat of real politics. Its influence, like that of the UN, is enough for nomenklatura support, since each inflated structure, ultimately, begins to exist largely for the interests of maintaining its own existence.

    I am saying all this to say that there is no need to "discover" anything new in the Vatican - it has been stupidly in this state for about an eternity. And it will remain there for a very long time. The Pope in the Western world is essentially the "Japanese Emperor" or the English Queen - a sort of "ceremonial queen of the hive" who has long since stopped laying pupae and decides little, but who, nevertheless, decides SOMETHING, enough to keep herself and her servants afloat. Which is what they do, because any kind of power is better than none.
    That's why there will be a new Pope and he will smile and wave as long as the flock needs it.
    1. 0
      April 23 2025 14: 01
      Quote: Knell Wardenheart
      decides SOMETHING that is sufficient to keep himself and his servants afloat

      so that's it - the Vatican is a pretty big shark of world-class capitalism (they not only pray, but also make money, and quite a bit) and plus a powerful worldwide intelligence network with all the attached (I wouldn't be surprised if it also has a "cleansing" department), plus property all over the world, etc., so the influence is far from what it was 300 years ago, but also far from
      Quote: Knell Wardenheart
      SOMETHING sufficient to keep itself and its servants afloat
      to date..
      1. +1
        April 23 2025 15: 25
        The same can be said about the UN - a large, branched structure, many related organizations, a large staff, diplomatic access to all countries of the world, etc. It looks respectable. But looking respectable and being respectable are somewhat different things.
        I do not in any way underestimate the influence of the Catholic Church, however, the number of Catholicism sects has increased since the Middle Ages, the general level of latent atheism in society has grown, the information saturation of the environment has increased significantly (including the influence of anti-Catholic propaganda) - so I see, let's say, a degradation, stagnating trend, rather than even a "plateau" of the Vatican's capabilities. As they say, "While the fat one is drying up, the thin one will die", so the fat one is drying up and has already dried up thoroughly. To what extent exactly - it is difficult to accurately assess, since no structure is interested in demonstrating the depths of its decline, rather the opposite.
  21. +3
    April 21 2025 12: 26
    Journalists, raise his statements regarding the burning alive of people in Odessa, what he said when the coup took place in Ukraine, what he said when planes bombed the city of Lugansk, what did he say regarding the fascist marches in Kyiv, what did he say about the abuse of civilians in Donbass?
  22. 0
    April 21 2025 12: 28
    The whole world needs a Roman mommy
    1. 0
      April 21 2025 12: 39
      Too shy to ask...
      Do you mean Meloni?
    2. 0
      April 21 2025 12: 43
      With big ones... These very ones... With a heart, that's it!
  23. 0
    April 21 2025 12: 29
    By the way, in the Easter address of the Pope they remembered (it was not Francis himself who read it) Ukraine
    And if they hadn’t remembered, I would have lived longer.
  24. +1
    April 21 2025 12: 31
    Quote: hrych
    Even if Pope Francis tried to distance himself from such processes, in the end the environment that elected him proved stronger. Churches turned into places for the Sabbath are an open mockery of both religion and faith.

    He did not distance himself from anything..., on the contrary, it was under him that permission was given for a terrible sin, which is such in almost all religions - for sodomy, same-sex marriages, and even gay priests were officially permitted under him, admitted to masses.... However, for the Western Satanic civilization, the Pope - a Jesuit (and this, with a harsh dictatorship and hierarchy, Satanic, anti-Christian in its essence order, has long been known to all sane and knowledgeable people as such, and even the term "Jesuitism" in the world is not perceived otherwise than as characterizing an artificial lie) - is only a natural consequence and expression of its true, saturated with lies and malice, which has struck in all terrible sins and proclaimed vices - the virtue of essence ... He died immediately after Easter - also very symbolic, that is, after the resurrection of Christ and his triumph, the victory of the spirit over matter, material forces of evil...
    The next one will most likely also be a Jesuit... if these devilish forces have already reached the papal throne, and in essence - the throne of Christ - opposite in all its nature and teaching to these followers of the Evil One, then they will not be able to detach themselves from it...
    Apocalyptic times..., here we have seen (as was predicted in Christian scriptures), the Antichrist on the seat of Christ....
  25. +1
    April 21 2025 12: 38
    It is necessary.
    Children sometimes "go beyond the limits"...
    That's what daddy's belt is for.
    But seriously...
    It is a thankless task to condemn... to give advice... to criticize... someone else's religion.
  26. 0
    April 21 2025 12: 38
    In response to the title of the article "Does the West really need a Pope?" and analyzing the article itself, I can say that it is for these reasons that a Pope who carries Christian values ​​is needed. And the cardinals should also contribute, and not allow themselves to sometimes make comments and analyses that leave much to be desired for us Christians.
  27. -1
    April 21 2025 12: 44
    Quote: Hagen
    Therefore, I don’t know whether the West needs Christianity. I know that the Vatican is our enemy and an ally of our enemies under any Pope.

    How many classics have been written about the "good" deeds of the Vatican. winked From life, I had enough of the reception of Azov's wives.
  28. 0
    April 21 2025 14: 11
    No matter how they choose the Mother of Rome...
  29. -1
    April 21 2025 14: 27
    I remember a childhood game, and there was this phrase: "The Pope died, the devils buried him."
  30. 0
    April 21 2025 16: 19
    The times of the Vatican's power and influence are long gone, they (the papists, Catholics) themselves surrendered to the globalists and their agenda, peacefully rolling in the fairway and indulging everything. Previously, wars thundered and dynasties were overthrown at the Pope's word, now his voice is approximately at the level of the Princess of Monaco. Now it is more of a historical museum and pitiful remnants of former power and influence.
    1. 0
      April 21 2025 18: 43
      Quote: Asker
      Now it is more of a historical museum and a pitiful remnant of its former power and influence.



      Quote: Stalin
      How many divisions does he have?
  31. 0
    April 21 2025 17: 13
    Quote: Grim Reaper
    Quote from: nik-mazur
    Quote: novel xnumx
    Ooh! "Gaza Strip"

    Actually, Vysotsky: “Lecture on the International Situation.”


    If only you knew how I ruined my life
    That I could become a pope
    And naturally, I would take you as my mother.

    Well and further in the text

    P.S. I don't doubt for a second that you know, but suddenly, someone doesn't know/remember...

    Well, like Roman. He was good in ambush, but to screw up like that...
  32. 0
    April 21 2025 17: 21
    Quote: Alexander X
    No matter how they choose the Mother of Rome...

    Even an uncle or an aunt. Let them choose. What does it matter to us?
  33. 0
    April 21 2025 18: 32
    Predskazamus has suffered again...