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In search of a national idea: a project for choosing the main symbols of Russia

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We often hear the thesis that Russia needs a national idea. This idea should be such that it united the citizens of the country, became a kind of basis for the development of interethnic and interfaith relations. However, so far the theses on the national idea of ​​Russia have not acquired real outlines, and the very concept of a “national idea” in a country where about two hundred different ethnic groups live does not look unequivocal. Of course, a common Russian environment could be a kind of field for general development (from economics to culture), and here the word “Russian” should be understood in the widest sense. Over the past couple of decades, we ourselves have become accustomed to dividing ourselves into Russians, Ukrainians, Belarusians, Kamchadals, Chechens, and others, but our foreign “partners” do not suffer from such a tendency to such subtle differentiation: Russian for them is Tatar, Udmurt, and Georgian with Ossetian.


And each time touching on the question of the national idea leads to a rather heated discussion in Russia. If the “Russian idea” is designated as the idea of ​​unity, then for a certain number of people this immediately begins to cause rejection. Attempts to explain that the Russian world is not a territorial entity at all, within which representatives of Russian nationality live, but something more - from a wide diverse culture to a way of thinking, does not always end on a positive wave. So, the search for some cementing Russian society continues, and the VGTRK holding, which for the second time offers the Russians a project related to the choice of a certain symbol of Russia, has a direct bearing on them.

In 2008, the All-Russian State Television and Radio Broadcasting Company together with the ViD company presented the Name of Russia project in Russia. Then, TV viewers, radio listeners and Internet users were urged to vote for the most significant personalities in stories Russia. Russians enthusiastically embraced the project. Millions of people took part in the voting, and they were not only citizens of the Russian Federation.

It is worth recalling that in 2008, the opinions of the jury and the representatives of, say, the people, were divided. After lengthy discussions, the jury decided to allocate seats in the “Name of Russia” project as follows: Peter Stolypin took third place, Alexander Suvorov took second place, and Alexander Pushkin and Alexander Nevsky decided to give first place to two individuals.

The people considered it somewhat different: the third place was Joseph Stalin, the second - Peter Stolypin, the first - Alexander Nevsky.

Although that project was not presented as an unequivocal project for the search for a national idea in Russia, it had certain prerequisites for that. It is quite difficult to assess the outcome of the “Name of Russia” project, because the very idea of ​​identifying the most outstanding historical personalities did not receive any subsequent development.

But now the VGTRK holding decided to continue its undertaking, only in a slightly modified way. This time, the company’s management together with the Russian Geographical Society, headed by Sergei Shoigu, are holding a big competition "Russia 10". In this competition it is proposed to choose the main Russian attractions 10. At the same time, the organizers of the projects make a reservation that “Russia 10” is no competition of individual regions, but an attempt to draw the attention of the Russians to the cultural values ​​with which Russia is so rich. The essence of the multimedia project is that the project participants themselves tell each other through photographs and their descriptions about Russian architectural, sculptural, landscape and other attractions. According to the organizers of the competition, this will have to bring the Russians together and demonstrate the special beauty inherent in each of the regions, and promote the development of domestic tourism in the country. After all, to be honest, we often don’t even know that there are amazing places literally next to us that deserve more attention than the exotic overseas shores.

The contest lasts only a few days, but more than 800 thousands of users have already managed to vote for certain symbols of Russia. If we talk about intermediate results, they are as follows (the percentages of the voters are indicated by district).





Central District. Is in the lead The Cathedral of Christ the Savior (13% of votes), further - Smolensk fortress wall (10%), in the top three - St. Basil's Cathedral (6%). The top ten leaders of the district are the Moscow Kremlin (3%).





Northwest District. The leaders of the historical and cultural complex Kizhi (13%), the second and third places in the users voting are divided Peterhof (8%) and Solovetsky Archipelago (8%). Closes the top ten - Kenozersky National Park (3%).





North Caucasus District. Ingush tower complex "Vovnushki" (29%), Derbent fortress Naryn-Kala (23%), Egikala towers in Assinsky gorge of Ingushetia (8%). 10-ku closes the City of the Dead Tsoi-Pede in the Chechen Republic (2%).





Southern District. Leader - The abode of the Buddha Shakyamuni in Elista (28%), hereinafter - the Adyghe mountain fisht with waterfalls and underground lakes (22%), in the top three “winners” - Mamaev kurgan (Volgograd) 18%. In the top ten - Lake Elton in the Volgograd region (1%).





Volga district. First place - a natural complex Shihane (Bashkortostan) (13%), the second - monument to Salavat Yulayev in Ufa (8%), the third - Raifa Monastery of the Virgin (8%). 10-place at the Chkalov ladder in Nizhny Novgorod (4%).





Ural district. The leaders - The Tobolsk Kremlin (18%), Nevyanskaya Tower (17%), tract "Thresholds" (17%). The White Tower of Ekaterinburg (2%) closes the top ten here.





Siberian District. Lake Baikal - first place (23%), second - Reserve "Stolby" Krasnoyarsk region (14%), the third - Novosibirsk Zoo (9%). There are dozens at the bottom - the Circum-Baikal Railway (2%).





Far Eastern District. First place - Vladivostok cable-stayed bridges (14%), Valley of Geysers in Kamchatka (12%), Putyatin Island (8%). In tenth place - Tyatya Volcano on Kunashir (4%).

Voting continues. I would like to hope that this project will achieve its goals and will tell more about Russia by the Russians themselves. A project that can make everyone think about the colossal cultural heritage that we inherited from our ancestors. But the preservation and enhancement of this heritage - what is not a national idea? ..

PS We offer to express your opinions about the main characters of Russia in the comments.
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  1. treskoed
    treskoed April 4 2013 08: 11 New
    -4
    Unfortunately, today the national idea of ​​Russia is - Grab it, how can you !!!
    1. andrejwz
      andrejwz April 4 2013 08: 19 New
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      Quote: treskoed
      Unfortunately, today the national idea of ​​Russia is - Grab it, how can you !!!

      Unfortunately, this is an international idea.
      1. Mitek
        Mitek April 4 2013 09: 43 New
        +8
        For me, the Moscow Kremlin has always been a symbol of the country. The rest is additions).
        1. Vadivak
          Vadivak April 4 2013 09: 57 New
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          Quote: Mitek
          For me, the Moscow Kremlin has always been a symbol of the country.


          For me, an Orthodox church.
          1. Drill
            Drill April 4 2013 10: 37 New
            +5
            Quote: Vadivak
            For me, an Orthodox church.

            In the Kremlin and temples and cathedrals.
            1. Vadivak
              Vadivak April 4 2013 11: 01 New
              +5
              Quote: Drill
              In the Kremlin and temples and cathedrals.


              In the Kremlin there are also palaces of congresses and the residence of the president and administrative buildings.

              I wouldn’t talk about this without the Orthodox Church, there would be no concept of Russia, therefore, a temple.
              1. ughhh
                ughhh April 4 2013 12: 50 New
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                Quote: Vadivak
                without the Orthodox Church there would be no concept of Russia

                what nonsense?
                1. Vadivak
                  Vadivak April 4 2013 15: 48 New
                  +5
                  Quote: ughhh
                  what nonsense?


                  I explain to people who do not know the history of Russia, it was the Orthodox Church that was the force that rallied the peoples of the principalities for the battle with the combined army of Mamaia (these were not Tatars) on the Kulikovo field.

                  If it weren’t for St. Sergius of Radonezh, we wouldn’t have had any history at all
                  1. tuts
                    tuts April 4 2013 18: 47 New
                    +6
                    Orthodox monks were the most literate, yes, but as it was in reality

                    I myself am personally Orthodox and I believe that true faith was only in the USSR when it was possible to rake in for one’s faith, but now that it’s more fashionable. If you want to confess, you must go to the hinterland where faith is strong.
                    1. Tverichanka
                      Tverichanka April 4 2013 21: 52 New
                      +2
                      If you want to confess, then you need to go to the hinterland where faith is strong. [/ Quote]
                      I will probably disappoint you, but I myself live in the outback. Churches are empty. Yes, seven years ago there was a different picture. But everything changed a long time ago. Now even on holidays very few people go. I won’t talk about the reasons, everyone knows everything. I wrote it only because I don’t accept it when they give out the wish for the reality. You should not deceive yourself and those around you. We have three functioning churches and the same picture. For doubters, I can tell you the address (naturally in PM). Although there are even relics.
                      1. tuts
                        tuts April 4 2013 21: 57 New
                        +1
                        in my city, priests drive a car the cost of which is equal to the cost of the apartment, but the priest in the village is quite adequate and you can talk for life
                      2. z-exit
                        z-exit April 5 2013 16: 42 New
                        +2
                        Quote: tots
                        If you want to confess, you must go to the hinterland where faith is strong

                        With all due respect, I will note that people say this with latent (not consciously realized) excuses not to go to the Temple, which is next to the house. There are many good feature films about what barriers a cunning brain does not invent. Look, for example, "Island of the Damned".
                        Quote: tots
                        ... to the hinterland where faith is strong

                        Whose faith is strong? What good is your soul from someone else's faith? Watch your faith better. In your words you can feel the condemnation of the priesthood near you. Sooner or later you will have to answer for it. From now on, beware of causing confusion.
                  2. stalkerwalker
                    stalkerwalker April 4 2013 20: 48 New
                    +5
                    Quote: Vadivak
                    it was the Orthodox Church that was the force that rallied the peoples of the principalities

                    Question:
                    But what, before Orthodox Russia, was not a lingual Russia?
                    belay
                  3. Reasonable, 2,3
                    Reasonable, 2,3 April 5 2013 04: 02 New
                    -2
                    Too Believer ?. WITHOUT A CHURCH WOULD NOT BE RUSSIA? And according to Darwin's theory, without monkeys you would not be.
                2. carbofo
                  carbofo April 4 2013 17: 14 New
                  +1
                  Take a word, St. Basil's Cathedral is the most recognizable image of Russia.
                  Everything else is known by place of residence, I don’t understand how the Cathedral of the Savior got here?

                  Quote: Vadivak
                  I wouldn’t talk about this without the Orthodox Church, there would be no concept of Russia, therefore, a temple.


                  No need to exaggerate, we are not a religion now and we are discussing its participation in the life of the country!
              2. Anti
                Anti April 4 2013 16: 21 New
                -4
                Quote: Vadivak
                without the Orthodox Church there would be no concept of Russia


                Without it, the whole world could be Russia .—
        2. Victor ar
          Victor ar April 4 2013 13: 16 New
          +2
          I have no ideology; instead, a worldview based on Orthodox principles. The Cathedral of Christ the Savior, restored from the ruins that arose from neglect of faith and the lack of spirituality of society, is evidence that Russia has accepted historical experience and realized the mistakes.
          1. yak69
            yak69 April 5 2013 15: 43 New
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            Quote: Victor Ar
            I don’t have an ideology, instead a worldview,

            Ideology (Greek ιδεολογία, from Greek ιδεα - a type, an idea; and λογος - a word, a mind, a doctrine)
            In essence, Worldview and Ideology are one and the same. All this is a system of views and principles of interaction in one or another social formation. The world behind the scenes has its own misanthropic ideology; they have their own cannibalistic worldview. (example)
            Quote: Victor Ar
            which arose from neglect of faith and lack of spirituality in society

            I do not agree with this statement in principle!
            Destruction came from the DESTRUCTION of faith, and not from neglect. Moreover, the temples were destroyed due to the substitution of concepts by various agents of the West.
            And only a society based on the highest spirituality is capable of performing such military and labor exploits as were performed by our ancestors (the defeated Napoleon and Hitler, built by the great Russian empire and the USSR).
            Therefore, it is better not to play with words, the meaning of which is not entirely clear and not to mask your incomplete perception with a set of phrases.
      2. valokordin
        valokordin April 5 2013 13: 06 New
        0
        Quote: andrejwz
        Unfortunately, this is an international idea.

        Your opinion is deeply disgusting, the international did not imply the slogan grab what you can, but it was a fair redistribution, and you have enough liberals and hiding moral hoops.
    2. 120352
      120352 April 4 2013 10: 34 New
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      Have you noticed a provocation in the title of the article? Idea and symbol are not the same thing. An idea is an internal state, a sensation. A symbol can become its external expression. But not the other way around. A symbol grows out of an idea, not an idea out of a symbol. Where did you see a plant (something external to the earth) that would grow not from the earth, but into the earth ?!
      1. Vladimirets
        Vladimirets April 4 2013 10: 46 New
        +2
        Quote: 120352
        Have you noticed a provocation in the title of the article? Idea and symbol are not the same thing. An idea is an internal state, a sensation. A symbol can become its external expression. But not the other way around. A symbol grows out of an idea, not an idea out of a symbol. Where did you see a plant (something external to the earth) that would grow not from the earth, but into the earth ?!

        People are very easy to manipulate. smile Replaced concepts and cause-effect relationships are already emerging other.
      2. ughhh
        ughhh April 4 2013 12: 58 New
        +1
        Quote: 120352
        Have you noticed a provocation in the title of the article? Idea and symbol are not the same thing.

        Well noticed. For myself, I consider the birch a symbol of Russia. And beautiful Vasily B. Domishko’s Cathedral voted ...
        1. stalkerwalker
          stalkerwalker April 4 2013 20: 51 New
          +8
          Quote: ughhh
          And voted for the Cathedral of Vasily B. Domishko beautiful ..


          I believe that the religious symbol of ONE FAITH cannot be the symbol of a MULTOCONFESSIONAL country.
          hi
    3. Reasonable, 2,3
      Reasonable, 2,3 April 5 2013 03: 55 New
      0
      The idea for Russia-one is the Empire!. Russia is not to be an Empire-not profitable, not economical. Who is against the states now?. Only we!. The whole world is looking at us now. Let us surrender to Syria, or where ?.
      1. Urrry
        Urrry April 5 2013 17: 18 New
        +1
        Yeah, because for me the "Russian flag" is not blue-red-white, but imperial, yellow-black-white .. :) Red was also not bad, but only China has the same
      2. Bosk
        Bosk April 5 2013 21: 56 New
        -1
        The idea for Russia will begin when the people stop making advances, and before that it is only the verb of the near-minded clever people who consider themselves WONDERFUL ... I apologize for the tantrum, but this topic needs to be raised when our fathers and mothers get enough pensions.
  2. fenix57
    fenix57 April 4 2013 08: 15 New
    +6
    +++++++++++ And you can because you walked in RUSSIA. Thank. hi
  3. zeksus
    zeksus April 4 2013 08: 27 New
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    Love for God, morality, traditions, a healthy lifestyle, in this I see the prosperity of Russia !!!!!!!!!!
    1. Nesvet Nezar
      Nesvet Nezar April 4 2013 10: 10 New
      0
      Faith hope love is not?
    2. Nesvet Nezar
      Nesvet Nezar April 4 2013 10: 18 New
      +4
      Quote: zeksus
      Love for God, morality, traditions, a healthy lifestyle, in this I see the prosperity of Russia !!!!!!!!!!


      It is a pity that you do not see children at the same time. Because it is children who make us believe in God, remind us of traditions, and incline us to a healthy lifestyle. And without children, we have an ax in our head ....
    3. carbofo
      carbofo April 4 2013 17: 15 New
      -1
      Quote: zeksus
      Love for God, morality, traditions, a healthy lifestyle, in this I see the prosperity of Russia !!!!!!!!!!

      Can I remove the love of God?
      1. Setrac
        Setrac April 4 2013 22: 19 New
        0
        Quote: carbofo
        Can I remove the love of God?

        You see, the Russian Orthodox Church is a commercial organization, and like any commercial organization, it lobbies its interests.
        1. carbofo
          carbofo April 5 2013 11: 08 New
          -2
          Quote: Setrac
          Quote: carbofo
          Can I remove the love of God?

          You see, the Russian Orthodox Church is a commercial organization, and like any commercial organization, it lobbies its interests.

          In rectally their interests.
    4. carbofo
      carbofo April 8 2013 13: 44 New
      0
      Quote: zeksus
      Love for God, morality, traditions, a healthy lifestyle, in this I see the prosperity of Russia !!!!!!!!!!


      HERE wants to put you + and you can’t, and minus is also impossible, but don’t write your faith in the reasons and there were fewer questions.
      The conversation is not even about the pros or cons, it is simply not necessary at every corner.
  4. Vladimirets
    Vladimirets April 4 2013 08: 30 New
    11
    It seems to me that a certain natural complex or object should be a symbol of the country. For example, Baikal or the same Shihan. Preferences in religion and architecture can be different, such objects can hardly personify Russia. And what I certainly would not want to see in the symbols is the Cathedral of Christ the Savior. What they turned it into may embody modern Russia, but I would not want my country to be presented as a place for a fashionable hangout of capital cream.
    1. Russian
      Russian April 4 2013 08: 47 New
      12
      I agree with you! This new building is clearly not pulling in the first place, especially since there were articles that under that only premises were not rented out there.
      How many beautiful buildings in Russia! This is a storehouse for tourism, it is necessary to develop this area, restore objects, advertise them in the end! And then everyone knows about the Eiffel Tower, about the Statue of Liberty, about the Louvre, and about many of our sights we don’t know about foreigners.
    2. yak69
      yak69 April 4 2013 08: 56 New
      22
      I would venture to express my opinion.
      I am firmly convinced that the symbols that make up the emblem of the USSR most fully reflect the essence of our multinational country and its spiritual and moral guidelines.
      The first one. Ears of wheat, bread, the unchanging basis of the diet in our country. A symbol of wealth and prosperity.
      The second one. Hammer and sickle. The union of workers and peasants. Union of creators of the country, those who actually create national wealth. Those who are by law and must be the master of the country.
      The third. The rising sun, giving us all life and marking a bright future.
      Fourth. The peaceful character of the symbols and the coat of arms as a whole.
      Fifth. The globe world should belong to those who CREATE and WORK, and not sell and destroy.
      You can replace the inscriptions and write something like "Glory to the man of labor!", But this is particular. In general, I am for the emblem of the USSR (possibly with some additions).

      From the emblem comes a noble and proud impulse directed towards the future. Feels calm and power. The coat of arms instills confidence and justice.
      This is my very personal opinion.

      PS The symbolism associated with natural and historical monuments takes away from the essence of ideology, narrows, erodes the meaning and finer landmarks.
      1. Vladimirets
        Vladimirets April 4 2013 09: 00 New
        0
        Quote: yak69
        I would venture to express my opinion.

        Quote: yak69
        PS The symbolism associated with natural and historical monuments takes away from the essence of ideology, narrows, erodes the meaning and finer landmarks.

        The very essence of the project is in choosing the sights, and not in choosing a new coat of arms. Your thought would fit into the context if you would choose a coat of arms. Why put everything in a heap?
        1. yak69
          yak69 April 4 2013 10: 16 New
          +4
          Quote: Vladimirets
          Why put everything in a heap?

          The fact of the matter is that this reasonable project is built in a very ambiguous way. He sips a substitution of concepts and meanings - first you are asked to decide on a natural symbol, then you are offered to associate it with a national idea, and in the end we get a feud - each of the people may ask "why are my places worse? Why is Baikal and not Terek?"
          Please forgive me, but I, as an ideologist by profession, everywhere see substitutions of concepts and meanings. All destructive work is actually built on this. She is not noticeable, but very insidious. Maybe I'm already losing my mind, but so far all my suspicions and doubts have been confirmed. You can look around.
          You can tell a lot about the toolkit of influence and change at the subtlest level of perception using everyday examples of what surrounds us all. I have already "tired" my family members with transcripts, but nevertheless, I see that my efforts are not in vain - both children and grandchildren try to live by the rules of honor.
          1. Rustiger
            Rustiger April 4 2013 10: 35 New
            +6
            Maybe I'm already losing my mind, but so far all my suspicions and doubts have been confirmed


            I agree. In confirmation, I can also give many arguments in the danger of such tricks. All sorts of "mass entertainers" are engaged not only in garbage, but in laying ideological mines at the basis of the consolidation of peoples.
            And the conditions are muddy. . .
          2. Vladimirets
            Vladimirets April 4 2013 10: 42 New
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            Quote: yak69
            The fact of the matter is that this intelligent project is built very ambiguously.

            Indeed? belay The project is unambiguous, there is ambiguity in the article.
            Quote: yak69
            He sips a substitution of concepts and meanings - first you are asked to decide on a natural symbol, then you are offered to associate it with a national idea, and in the end we get a feud - each of the people may ask "why are my places worse? Why is Baikal and not Terek?"

            Such reasoning leads to a witch hunt.
            Quote: yak69
            I, as an ideologist by profession, everywhere see substitutions of concepts and meanings

            Quote: yak69
            I have already "tired" my family with decryptions,

            If you wish, you can justify and bring into a single logical chain absolutely everything that surrounds us. But here I see a desire to find out what object the Russians associate with their country. Previously, the Kremlin, Volga, etc., were unconditionally leading. Leave the brackets behind the symbols, for me it could be Suzdal, the Assumption Cathedral or the Lena River (I was born there), for another person other associations, what does the conspiracy of dark forces have to do with it?
            1. yak69
              yak69 April 4 2013 11: 37 New
              +9
              Quote: Vladimirets
              or R. Lena (I was born there), for another person other associations, what does the conspiracy of dark forces have to do with it?

              In 2001, the Lena river went by boat from Lensk to Ust-Kut (I figured out why there is a delay in cargo for the injured Lensk, why barges go only to Peleduy and accumulate there - also information for a whole action-packed detective novel). The beauties on Lena are amazing!
              Regarding the "conspiracy of the dark forces." Every moment of his life, a person makes a choice in one direction or another. We "work" either for God or for Satan, there is no middle ground. Whether you want it or not, whether you are conscious of it or not. He opened the door in front of a woman, gave up his seat in the transport to a veteran, or walked past the ongoing lawlessness, so he made a choice. Here are the most striking examples for clarity, and if you understand all the intricacies of our every second behavior, you can see "who we work for" in the end. Therefore, it is said: you have to be vigilant, live consciously, give an account of EVERY moment of your life! Only then can you avoid all sorts of satanic traps. And these rules are spelled out in all religions and in the communist ideology.
              The vast majority of people now live as zombies or humanoid animals, on the desires of the flesh and instincts. WITHOUT HESITATION! Motto: "life is here and now!", "Take everything from life!" (and a famous football player with a mouth bursting from screaming).
              Here's a choice. I bought Pepsi - supported the enemies and poisoned my body. I bought sausages and sausage (with a bunch of chemicals instead of meat) - I supported the enemies and again poisoned my body. And in big cities, young people no longer cook at home - they live on semi-finished products. And the "eyeliner" for such behavior is simple - "no time", "a woman is not a cook", "do not make a cult out of food", etc. And with such behavior, national and cultural traditions go away, the possibility of a uniting family beginning goes away. Neither more nor less! Where does the whole family gather? In the kitchen, at the table. There is communication, exchange of news, opinions, etc. They praise the hostess for the prepared dinner, show her their location. The hostess feels her contribution, rejoices in gratitude and the opportunity to care.
              This is because there are NO LITTLES IN LIFE, or rather LIFE CONSISTS OF SUCH LITTLES and therefore we must be vigilant!
              1. Gari
                Gari April 4 2013 15: 36 New
                +3
                yak69 (1)
                In my opinion it seems like a continuation of your thoughts
                from my favorite book, Heart of a Dog, - a monologue of Professor Preobrazhensky: This is what: if I, instead of operating, start singing in chorus every evening in my apartment, I will be in ruin. If I, while visiting the restroom, start, excuse me for the expression, urinate past the toilet bowl and Zina and Daria Petrovna do the same, the restroom will begin to collapse. Consequently, the devastation is not in the closets, but in the heads. So when these baritones shout "Beat the devastation!" - I am laughing. (Philip Philipovich's face is twisted so that the bitten man opened his mouth.) I swear to you, I find it funny! This means that each of them must hit themselves in the back of the head! And so, when he hatches all sorts of hallucinations and starts cleaning the sheds - his direct business, the devastation will disappear by itself. You cannot serve two gods!
          3. old rocket man
            old rocket man April 4 2013 11: 09 New
            +9
            [quote = yak69]
            The fact of the matter is that this reasonable project is built in a very ambiguous way. He sips a substitution of concepts and meanings - first, you are offered to decide on a natural symbol, then you are offered to associate it with a national idea, and in the end we get a feud - each of the people may ask "why are my places worse? Why is Baikal and not Ter
            ek? "

            No, you don’t lose your mind, the way it is, all these undertakings come either from a near mind or from an evil intention.
            If you look closely at the Russian national idea, you have always been unity and protection the unity of the power, the strong and the protection of this power and all those in it, regardless of faith and race
            Do not hit the recumbent, do not take someone else's, respect old age, pity the wretched - the principles suggested from childhood, the basis of upbringing, uniting and creating RUSSIA.
            The symbol of Russia is a plowman with a sword.]
          4. Tverichanka
            Tverichanka April 4 2013 22: 08 New
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            Quote: yak69
            ideologist by profession

            Excuse me, of course, but with such a "profession" everything will inevitably appear everywhere ... Do you think that the former Soviet coat of arms does not mean anything for young people born and raised outside the USSR? And also that the former republics are now almost enemies? The Balts, for example?
            1. yak69
              yak69 April 4 2013 22: 53 New
              +2
              Quote: Tverichanka
              Does the Soviet emblem mean nothing to young people born and raised outside the USSR? And also, that the former republics are now almost enemies?

              I won’t say anything for the Baltic states, but I can confidently say for the Central Asian republics, Moldova, Ukraine - they know, remember and honor! Moreover, they are waiting for Russia to begin to revive in order to join the formation like the Union. There is another encouraging point. The Union State of the Russian Federation and Belarus is under construction! Painstaking, systematic work is underway to create a regulatory framework for the all-Union state. When the main differences are resolved, the accession stage of Kazakhstan and the Asian republics will follow.
              In addition, the process of transforming the "USSR 2.0" movement into a full-fledged party is gaining momentum. In early February, the first congress was held in the Column Hall of the House of Unions. In dioceses, signatures are being collected under the appeal of believers for the reunification of the three fraternal Slavic peoples.
              There is positive and I urge all those who care to make a contribution to these processes.
              Join us, comrades!
              Who can with what - by word, deed, participation, sympathy, ruble.
              We have the opportunity to recreate our great power.
      2. baltika-18
        baltika-18 April 4 2013 09: 23 New
        +1
        Quote: yak69
        The symbolism associated with natural and historical monuments takes away from the essence of ideology, narrows, erodes the meaning and finer landmarks.

        And I will agree.
        After all, it is a national idea, and not about advertising tourist attractions.
        The national idea is the ideological basis of the state, this is why the state was created and exists. And here it is simple
        Quote: treskoed
        Take it as you can!
        or Hapai as much as you can. It's at this stage.
        But by and large it should be clearly formulated, included in the Constitution and everyone should follow this provision. And symbols in the form of monuments of architecture or natural beauties have very little relation to this.
        1. Vladimirets
          Vladimirets April 4 2013 09: 41 New
          +3
          Colleagues, the article is written, of course, cunningly. First, discussions about the national idea, and then about the project of 10 attractions, symbols of Russia, so it can be difficult to catch the point? VGTRK together with the Russian Geographical Society (I emphasize - geographical). Why pile everything together? What is the connection between the emblem of the USSR and Baikal? Except, of course, that it is ours. Well, let's compare Uncle Vasya and the north wind, and find out which one is more square. Well, after all, we choose from natural and architectural monuments, why shove the inedible?
        2. evgenm55
          evgenm55 April 4 2013 10: 22 New
          +2
          And I also completely agree - the Coat of Arms of the USSR was created by patriots, in it they reflected all the values ​​of the country and the people, not hucksters and menegers. Yes, and he accepted the work, additions and changes were really made by the leader - the patriot, the father of the nation, who did not think about bills and villas .
        3. bask
          bask April 4 2013 13: 33 New
          +7
          Quote: baltika-18
          or Hapai as much as you can. It's at this stage.

          baltika ..don't agree .We have imposed this idea on us and try to inspire youth ,,, through all television channels and the media ,, Pepsi generation ,,,
          But the Russian person has innate immunity to all this ideological infection.
          A NATIONAL IDEA IS ONE: RESTORATION OF A UNIFIED STATE, RUSSIA, UKRAINE AND BELARUS. WITH THE CREATION OF A SOCIALLY ORIENTED ECONOMY !!!! in return for the capitalist oligarchic savage ...
      3. ULxaw86
        ULxaw86 April 4 2013 09: 55 New
        +4
        Quote: yak69
        I would venture to express my opinion.
        I am firmly convinced that the symbols that make up the emblem of the USSR most fully reflect the essence of our multinational country and its spiritual and moral guidelines.
        The first one. Ears of wheat, bread, the unchanging basis of the diet in our country. A symbol of wealth and prosperity.
        The second one. Hammer and sickle. The union of workers and peasants. Union of creators of the country, those who actually create national wealth. Those who are by law and must be the master of the country.
        The third. The rising sun, giving us all life and marking a bright future.
        Fourth. The peaceful character of the symbols and the coat of arms as a whole.
        Fifth. The globe world should belong to those who CREATE and WORK, and not sell and destroy.
        You can replace the inscriptions and write something like "Glory to the man of labor!", But this is particular. In general, I am for the emblem of the USSR (possibly with some additions).

        From the emblem comes a noble and proud impulse directed towards the future. Feels calm and power. The coat of arms instills confidence and justice.
        This is my very personal opinion.

        PS The symbolism associated with natural and historical monuments takes away from the essence of ideology, narrows, erodes the meaning and finer landmarks.

        Symbols of the USSR loom in his eyes, and his anthem sounded in his head!))
        1. yak69
          yak69 April 4 2013 10: 20 New
          0
          Quote: ULxaw86
          Symbols of the USSR loom in his eyes, and his anthem sounded in his head!))

          Everything is correct, the mechanism works!
          smile
          Ia satisfied))))
          laughing
          1. yak69
            yak69 April 4 2013 20: 35 New
            +1
            Apparently minus those who at the sight of the coat of arms of the USSR sounds a different song:
            "" Then conquer we must, for our cause it is just,
            And this be our motto: "In God is our trust."
            And the Star-Spangled Banner forever shall wave
            O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave! ""
            1. Anti
              Anti April 4 2013 20: 42 New
              0
              winked
              Quote: yak69
              at the sight of the coat of arms of the USSR another song sounds:


              the cockadonna’s courage is enough here yes
        2. Evrepid
          Evrepid April 4 2013 18: 43 New
          0
          With both hands for! :)
          The Anthem is playing, and I have other words besides: The Great Mighty Soviet Union cannot speak to it ... This muck that Mikhalkov composed ... doesn’t fit into the head ... byr ...
      4. vladsolo56
        vladsolo56 April 4 2013 10: 43 New
        +4
        I support. If the project is to search for a national, or rather an idea of ​​a nationally unifying one, then this proposal has the most chances for unification. Now about the sights, there are many of them and many have both history and cultural and natural value, but what they certainly do not have is a unifying factor. Here more than once the question of a unifying idea has been raised. So only justice elevated to the rank of state domestic policy can give impetus to unification. Everything else: faith, culture, nationalism, cannot even move one step closer to unity. You can create a powerful state relying on one nation, but there will be no unity. Such a state can only hold on to strength. In modern conditions of global communication, this is what kind of power you must have in order to keep so many people in obedience.
        1. zanoza
          zanoza April 4 2013 13: 51 New
          +1
          Project, project, BUT every person has that placemay be the only one or one of where the person feels the homeland. Once there, grace is felt, spiritual peace, just specifically - ARE YOU AT HOME! This place is for you Motherland symbol. And everything in the world should be just as beautiful, I want to share it, and people, from staying in such places, should experience the same, indescribable, good feelings.
          And through such places understanding comes (from small to bigger): this is Russia, this is your country, save, protect, save it!
      5. Ghenxnumx
        Ghenxnumx April 4 2013 17: 59 New
        0
        Quote: yak69
        I would venture to express my opinion.
        I am firmly convinced that the symbols that make up the emblem of the USSR most fully reflect the essence of our multinational country and its spiritual and moral guidelines.

        I join, perhaps to add Belarus to Ukraine and Kazakhstan, since we cannot be apart for a long time fellow
    3. Tverichanka
      Tverichanka April 4 2013 22: 01 New
      0
      Quote: Vladimirets
      For example, Baikal

      I agree with you. And also the Volga, Oka, Yenisei .... As soon as we begin to put forward symbols that distinguish some people from others (a temple, a mosque or something from this series), we can put an end to the project. There will be another disagreement and separation, rather than unification. It is impossible to invest religious or any other preferences in the all-Russian symbol. Let it be something that is dear to everyone, regardless of personal worldview or faith.
  5. svp67
    svp67 April 4 2013 08: 33 New
    +3
    Strange, why didn’t I remember as such a symbol - THE Banner of VICTORY?
    1. evgenm55
      evgenm55 April 4 2013 10: 26 New
      +1
      The coat of arms and the Banner are indivisible symbols of the state. And if the Banner is the Banner of Victory, I think either fools or enemies will object. I remember how my grandfather, a front-line soldier, spat on this tricolor, otherwise he did not call it a "Vlasov rag" ...
    2. Egoza
      Egoza April 4 2013 10: 57 New
      -1
      Quote: svp67
      why didn’t I remember as such a symbol - THE Banner OF VICTORY?

      So then there is a monument to I.V. Stalin must be set! laughing
      XXXX
      Excuse me, but in the first photo is not St. Andrew's Cathedral in Kiev depicted? repeat
  6. Zerkalo
    Zerkalo April 4 2013 08: 38 New
    +1
    We have a unique country where you need to develop tourism with all your strength, because if you can figure it out, then where else can you swim in geysers, look at the ice drift, walk in bamboo thickets, climb mountains, swim in the sea and sunbathe on sandy beaches, watch the northern lights. .. And all this within one country. You need a good manager to do all this, but where to get it ...
    And about the idea, so my opinion is that it is necessary to prohibit all nationalist organizations, and it is strictly forbidden. It is necessary to remove the multiplicity on the ground. We must constantly grind from school that we are one people, that we lived peacefully in a union ...
    1. plohoy
      plohoy April 4 2013 09: 21 New
      +3
      And my opinion is that it is necessary to "drum into" the history of the Russian State in schools. We have never been a single people with the Poles and have never lived peacefully ... even in an alliance.
      1. Simon
        Simon April 4 2013 19: 56 New
        0
        I want to disagree with you. In the 18-19 centuries, Poland was part of the Russian Empire. hi
        1. plohoy
          plohoy April 5 2013 11: 12 New
          0
          I’m not saying that Poland was part or not part of Russia ... I’m talking about the fact that Poles are like a dirty cat in a family ..... you follow him, feed him - but he doesn’t care wherever be it shit !!!!! So with the Poles, we never were not united!!!!!!!!
          1. Bosk
            Bosk April 5 2013 22: 04 New
            -1
            How were they not united? If you consider Moscow as the center of the universe, then it certainly isn’t, but if from the point of view of Western Russian cities (and even reading the annals of those cities), there’s something to think about, if you can figure out an alternative, then it would be possible that there would be a union together with Poland and the capital ... let's say in Pskov or somewhere else ...
    2. plohoy
      plohoy April 4 2013 09: 23 New
      0
      And yes .... what kind of manager we have is good or bad, it's up to us to decide .... not the Poles
      1. Zerkalo
        Zerkalo April 4 2013 18: 02 New
        +1
        Dear, first of all, what did the Poles not please you with?
        Secondly, as far as I know on this site, and indeed almost everywhere, everyone is free to express their opinion (esno, within the limits of censorship and without insults).
        Thirdly, an outside opinion is even more valuable, so it’s very informative to listen to others.

        And fourthly, I’m not a Pole - it’s Chesslov))) paradox - I write from the phone, defines it as Pole, I write at home from the computer - like from Russia.
        1. plohoy
          plohoy April 5 2013 11: 17 New
          +1
          What has already moved to Russia ??? Please back .... and speak there on the topic of good or bad leaders ...... YOU ARE THE CIVILIZED EUROPEANS (or gay Europeans - whatever you want) we will do without your advice! !!
    3. 120352
      120352 April 4 2013 09: 33 New
      +6
      Tourism in the absence of roads and at mega-prices for airline tickets? Do you live in Russia?
      Want to see volcanoes? Please in Kamchatka. A flight of just over 8 hours, with any luck, costs only 2 thousand bucks + hotel. Almost without amenities, but at a price more expensive Marriott or Hilton will be. Yes, you still have to wait for transport, it is not known how many on local airlines. And there’s an hour by helicopter - the flight Moscow-New York (at a price). With our income, it’s much cheaper to fly to Etna to see or to admire Eyyafyatlayokoodle in Iceland. And hotel services there are much cheaper and more comfortable. And, do not believe it, they are not rude! This type of service (rudeness in hotels) is our exclusive!
      Do you want to go to Baikal and Baikal? But wouldn’t it be cheaper to hit the road to Niagara or Victoria ...
      Somehow my wife and I wanted to drive along the "Golden Ring". We looked at the prices. A trip of the same duration in Scandinavia, despite the fact that the quality of services there cannot be compared with ours, is noticeably cheaper.
      So, alas, there are no prerequisites for the development of tourism. There will be roads, it will be possible to return to this issue. And you won’t especially drive through the winter road ...
      1. ULxaw86
        ULxaw86 April 4 2013 10: 02 New
        +4
        I agree 100% !!!! Friends and acquaintances fly to Turkey-Goa. And I want to Altai, Baikal, Kamchatka, Karelia, etc. ...
        Sadly, Gazprom is now a national treasure-tyre-idea.
        1. old rocket man
          old rocket man April 4 2013 11: 19 New
          +1
          Quote: ULxaw86
          Sadly, Gazprom is now a national treasure-tyre-idea

          Maybe (even for sure) Gazprom is bad, but, thank God, we have it.
          1. ULxaw86
            ULxaw86 April 4 2013 12: 32 New
            +1
            Gazprom is bad, but, thank God, we have it. [/ Quote]
            Yes, but not about our honor with you! If you are a car enthusiast, then you will understand me.
            And the prices for all consumer goods "dance" from the price of energy resources
      2. QWERTY
        QWERTY April 4 2013 18: 05 New
        +1
        I support. I have a wife from Kamchatka, so she has not seen the Valley of Geysers for 25 years, although she lived in Petropavlovsk. A helicopter costs 80 rubles. It is unclear who can get there.
    4. Tverichanka
      Tverichanka April 4 2013 22: 19 New
      +1
      Quote: Zerkalo
      x You have to grind constantly from school,

      Do not take into account the experience and instructions of our ancestors, who quite rightly said, "Teach your child while it lies across the bench."
  7. Zerkalo
    Zerkalo April 4 2013 08: 38 New
    0
    We have a unique country where you need to develop tourism with all your strength, because if you can figure it out, then where else can you swim in geysers, look at the ice drift, walk in bamboo thickets, climb mountains, swim in the sea and sunbathe on sandy beaches, watch the northern lights. .. And all this within one country. You need a good manager to do all this, but where to get it ...
    And about the idea, so my opinion is that it is necessary to prohibit all nationalist organizations, and it is strictly forbidden. It is necessary to remove the multiplicity on the ground. We must constantly grind from school that we are one people, that we lived peacefully in a union ...
  8. Zerkalo
    Zerkalo April 4 2013 08: 39 New
    0
    We have a unique country where you need to develop tourism with all your strength, because if you can figure it out, then where else can you swim in geysers, look at the ice drift, walk in bamboo thickets, climb mountains, swim in the sea and sunbathe on sandy beaches, watch the northern lights. .. And all this within one country. You need a good manager to do all this, but where to get it ...
    And about the idea, so my opinion is that it is necessary to prohibit all nationalist organizations, and it is strictly forbidden. It is necessary to remove the multiplicity on the ground. We must constantly grind from school that we are one people, that we lived peacefully in a union ...
  9. yak69
    yak69 April 4 2013 08: 49 New
    +1
    I would venture to express my opinion.
    I am firmly convinced that the symbols that make up the emblem of the USSR most fully reflect the essence of our multinational country and its spiritual and moral guidelines.
    The first one. Ears of wheat, bread, the unchanging basis of the diet in our country. A symbol of wealth and prosperity.
    The second one. Hammer and sickle. The union of workers and peasants. Union of creators of the country, those who actually create national wealth. Those who are by law and must be the master of the country.
    The third. The rising sun, giving us all life and marking a bright future.
    Fourth. The peaceful character of the symbols and the coat of arms as a whole.
    Fifth. The globe world should belong to those who CREATE and WORK, and not sell and destroy.
    You can replace the inscriptions and write something like "Glory to the man of labor!", But this is particular. In general, I am for the emblem of the USSR (possibly with some additions).

    From the emblem comes a noble and proud impulse directed towards the future. Feels calm and power. The coat of arms instills confidence and justice.
    This is my very personal opinion.

    PS The symbolism associated with natural and historical monuments takes away from the essence of ideology, narrows, erodes the meaning and finer landmarks.
  10. Hius-124
    Hius-124 April 4 2013 08: 52 New
    +1
    Nat the idea should be healthy nationalism of Russian citizens and adequate assistance to those in need. yes And I would choose symbols: Peter 1, Lomonosov, Pushkin, Stalin, Gagarin, Ivan the Terrible, Mendeleev, Zhukov, Suvorov, Ushakov and Ekaterina 2. hi
  11. Byordovvv1
    Byordovvv1 April 4 2013 08: 52 New
    10
    The world-famous sculpture by Vera Mukhina, "Worker and Collective Farm Woman" - everything else is secondary. The sculpture carries a deep vital meaning of all mankind and it is not pathos at all.
  12. NickitaDembelnulsa
    NickitaDembelnulsa April 4 2013 09: 06 New
    -4
    The symbol of Russia is the Russians.
    1. vyatom
      vyatom April 4 2013 09: 20 New
      -3
      Quote: NickitaDembelnulsa
      The symbol of Russia is the Russians.

      People People People Wake up Russians are our main symbol
      1. Vadivak
        Vadivak April 4 2013 09: 54 New
        +3
        Quote: vyatom
        Russians are our main symbol


        Russians are international. Russian is the basis and symbol of Russia.
        1. ULxaw86
          ULxaw86 April 4 2013 12: 42 New
          +2
          Quote: Vadivak
          Quote: vyatom
          Russians are our main symbol


          Russians are international. Russian is the basis and symbol of Russia.

          Let me continue. The main national idea is to unite our international? Our greatness is the ability to live in friendship!
      2. FC SKIF
        FC SKIF April 4 2013 13: 09 New
        +1
        Rather like this: the preservation and growth of our people (our peoples). And all the laws of GOST, forms of government and property must first of all meet this requirement. I already wrote about this in the article "Nobody needs us".
    2. NickitaDembelnulsa
      NickitaDembelnulsa April 7 2013 15: 45 New
      0
      Apparently for some, the country is a separate organism. And people are not needed in it. So, in Russia, Russian citizens are not needed?
  13. Rustiger
    Rustiger April 4 2013 09: 09 New
    +9
    Complete nonsense! Stupid idea! Absolutely crazy "competition conditions"!
    How can you compare the incomparable. For example, Baikal and Peterhof. Kul Sharif Mosque and the Gazprom Tower. Kamchatka geysers and the Kalmyk yurt. . .

    How many people - so many opinions.
    Each sandpiper praises its swamp. (Russian proverb)
    It tastes like net color. (Dagestan saying)
    Chibe niboskrep - mine is my tundyr (Nenets proverb) .etc.
    1. yak69
      yak69 April 4 2013 11: 52 New
      +1
      Quote: Rustiger
      How can you compare the incomparable.

      I agree with you.
      Here: comparison breeds competition! In this particular case, the rivalry between our peoples (in choosing sights) is the main goal of this project.
      Or was he mistaken again? ...
    2. Vadivak
      Vadivak April 4 2013 12: 24 New
      +1
      Quote: Rustiger
      How can you compare the incomparable. For example, Baikal and Peterhof. Kul Sharif Mosque and the Gazprom Tower.

      [center] [/ center]

      Who united the Russian land is the symbol, what does Gazprom have to do with it
      1. Rustiger
        Rustiger April 4 2013 12: 47 New
        0
        what does Gazprom have to do with it

        As an example of incompatible, especially positioning itself as a PEOPLE'S DIGNITY and blocking gas for a single woman with THREE children for the fact that she has a debt of as much as 3 !!! months. am apparently comparable to the debt for transit through the territory of Ukraine laughing
        There are many examples, the first one came across, apparently impressed by the fact that soon he would have to gobble up the fussing locusts from the local gorgas for paper only almost as much as the cost of the purchased equipment (mostly German and Italian).
        I hope you understand? hi
        1. family tree
          family tree April 4 2013 21: 31 New
          +1
          you have to gobble up snickering fuss from the local gorgas only for pieces of paper almost as much as the cost of the purchased equipment (mostly German and Italian).
          I'm funnier. I had to conclude an agreement for the repair and maintenance of equipment with a company licensed for this, with an appropriate annual contribution, of course, otherwise the IP was not registered. The company has two employees, a director and an accountant, and that’s all ... When asked how this service will be carried out, the director spread his hands. But the director’s wife, some kind of lump in the city hall winked
  14. soldat1945
    soldat1945 April 4 2013 09: 13 New
    +3
    Now the only thing that connects us all is the Second World War, sport, and military service - this is the only place where all the ethnic groups of Russia intersect, but recently they have entered service to the liberals and the traitorous committee of soldiers' mothers near the house and the army began to lose its cementing function and Caucasians also pay money in VK to get on an urgent basis because the call is limited, and unfortunately, apart from these three factors, today the blogger doesn’t bind us to the 20-year-old devastation, you need to restore the normal function of state institutions then the national idea will appear!
  15. 120352
    120352 April 4 2013 09: 14 New
    +8
    Gentlemen! Stop being cunning and don't let yourself be fooled. The main symbol of Russia = Rus is its history, its Russian people, which are now being purposefully and cold-bloodedly destroyed. The situation is typical, it is called "Stop the thief". Transferring to the specifics, it can be formulated as follows: we are destroyed, showing concern for us.
    In general, Elder Philotheus defined the national idea of ​​our Fatherland in his time as follows: "Moscow is the third Rome." Translating from symbolic to everyday language, it would be correct for the modern to say that Russia is the same center of Orthodoxy as Saudi Arvia is the center of Wahhabism (the state religion of the SA). Later M.V. Lomonosov revealed another side of the national idea in his work "On the Preservation and Increase of the Number of the Russian People." Looking for new symbols? It is necessary to search in this direction! Otherwise, everything will be distorted and broken.
    1. vladsolo56
      vladsolo56 April 4 2013 12: 05 New
      +1
      I don’t understand who you want to unite? only Russians? what about the rest? or do you think Russia can be united only by nationalism and Orthodoxy? Then, according to your conviction, other nationalities should silently accept this fact, or they will be offered to accept it by force. Do you think this is the real association?
      1. ULxaw86
        ULxaw86 April 5 2013 11: 18 New
        0
        [quote = vladsolo56] I don’t understand who you want to combine? only Russians? what about the rest?
        here it is important to understand for yourself whom you consider RUSSIAN!
        1. Bosk
          Bosk April 5 2013 22: 07 New
          -1
          Together we are POWER!, But if from the point of view of the Natsiks .... then we will sooner or later wake up in the crap.
  16. 275nv
    275nv April 4 2013 09: 18 New
    0
    Overcoming / revival / - this is a national idea for us
    (further - the sea of ​​variations - rebirth through ...)
    The climate is contrasting, vast territories, historical vicissitudes, and insurmountable circumstances shaped our character. Those. stagnation situation - paradoxically! - the most pernicious, like + (contentment) and - (discouragement).
    Therefore, the symbol of Russia for the changing, natural.
    Or two symbols - architectural and natural.
  17. Corsair5912
    Corsair5912 April 4 2013 09: 25 New
    -2
    You can verbiage ad infinitum, but the symbols of Russia, which come first:
    Kremlin, Red Square, Lenin Mausoleum.
    There are thousands of beautiful and famous buildings, statues, landscapes and natural monuments in Russia, an objective choice is impossible.
    Russia is a mono-ethnic country, Russians - 85% of the population, and the remaining 15% are 200 small nationalities,
    therefore the national idea:
    - the unity of Russia is acceptable to the majority of the population,
    and separatists of any nationality should be multiplied by zero.
  18. makdy
    makdy April 4 2013 09: 27 New
    -8
    Maybe start small - hold a referendum on the coat of arms, flag and anthem?
    My suggestions:
    1. - Coat of arms - use the coat of arms of the USSR, with the correction of inscriptions.
    2. - Flag. Perhaps existing. It does not cause rejection in me. The Red Flag of the USSR is still military.
    3. - Anthem. The existing one was once written as a party, battle anthem. I think a hymn based on Sviridov’s melodies is more appropriate for a strong, self-confident state.
    Only here the hope in the mythical "god" is simply humiliating.
    1. 120352
      120352 April 4 2013 10: 27 New
      -3
      You have made a typical logical mistake. It's called Thesis Substitution. The essence of your mistake is the substitution of a holistic idea, albeit related, but different symbols. There is a mosaic of thinking, typical, excuse me, I don’t want to offend you, believe me, this is typical of the majority, for schizophrenia. (Secretly, I'm a psychiatrist).
    2. evgenm55
      evgenm55 April 4 2013 10: 35 New
      +1
      There are no military flags - there is the Banner of War, the USSR Flag symbolized something completely different (history, 4th grade), the anthem was created just like the anthem of the USSR, and the international was the anthem of the party.
      1. soldat1945
        soldat1945 April 4 2013 12: 13 New
        +1
        The only thing I agree with is that the colors of the tricolor were never the colors of Russia. The tricolor itself stained itself with a white movement and Vlasovism, and I think its change would have removed many questions in history, and in particular the nonsense that Vlasov is not a traitor to the Russian land, but a collaborator and others plant liberals!
    3. Victor ar
      Victor ar April 4 2013 13: 47 New
      +2
      You are either a fan or a provocateur.
      These symbols belonged to our beloved USSR and poking them in modern society is blasphemous and not funny. Ahead is the Renaissance of Great Russia, and so far we see only the two-headed eagle, which also does not particularly coincide in content, but it will be found ... I'm 100% sure!
    4. Victor ar
      Victor ar April 4 2013 14: 59 New
      -3
      The symbol of Russia may be the Cathedral of Christ the Savior. This is a symbol of the restoration of spiritual bonds and a return to the Orthodox sources of humanity and repentance.
      1. Tverichanka
        Tverichanka April 4 2013 22: 37 New
        +2
        Quote: Victor Ar
        The Cathedral of Christ the Savior.

        And for Muslims? And for Buddhists? And for unbelievers? You don’t relate these people to compatriots? .... I read the comments and felt sad .. No, dear, no association will come out from us. Someone in the woods, who is firewood, everyone has an absolutely uncompromising position. Believers hate unbelievers, the Communists to the liberals, etc, etc ... Yes, there is no longer sad, then despair fit ..... I am deeply convinced that we therefore lived peacefully with each other in the USSR, because we did not separate first of all, religion. Muslims and Christians studied in the same class, and everything was fine .. And there were enough categories for us to determine the quality of a person. Everything is just BAD and GOOD. And that’s all !!! And now .... yes this is horror with dregs ....
      2. Setrac
        Setrac April 4 2013 22: 39 New
        0
        Quote: Victor Ar
        the emperor of Russia may be the Cathedral of Christ the Savior. This is a symbol of the restoration of spiritual bonds and a return to the Orthodox sources of humanity and repentance.

        Spiritual "braces" have not disappeared, as well as philanthropy. We will remove repentance, we have nothing to repent of, let those who kill and rob all over the world repent.
  19. Grishka100watt
    Grishka100watt April 4 2013 09: 32 New
    +3
    Wow, right pride for the country ran through the body good
    1. 120352
      120352 April 4 2013 10: 28 New
      -10
      Try using a washcloth and a good shower gel. It may stop something running around the body.
      1. Grishka100watt
        Grishka100watt April 4 2013 10: 30 New
        0
        D% urak or something)
      2. Grishka100watt
        Grishka100watt April 4 2013 10: 43 New
        +5
        Taki 2 times a day I do it. On training days - before and after training.
        By the way, I weigh 94, I press 140 from the chest and have a discharge even on the press.

        So you can write anything you want, wag. Just compare what you can write with what you are able to say in person.

        I’m not humiliating people like you in the gym, on the contrary, I help wink
        1. Rustiger
          Rustiger April 4 2013 11: 29 New
          +3
          By the way, I weigh 94, press 140 from the chest and have a discharge even on the press

          I weigh the same, with a height of 192 cm, I work on a bench press from 120-130 kg, the Sambo CCM, two-time European champion.
          I don’t humiliate them in the gym - on the contrary, I help

          . . . as a bag of manure - fly to an angle or wall hi
          Well, he joked so easily that you can do it. . . drinks
          1. Grishka100watt
            Grishka100watt April 4 2013 11: 35 New
            +1
            Well, physical education hello, colleague!hi
            1. Rustiger
              Rustiger April 4 2013 11: 58 New
              +2
              And all the best to you, "northern brother" !!!!!
              In a healthy body healthy mind? Something like this . . .
              1. Grishka100watt
                Grishka100watt April 4 2013 13: 12 New
                +1
                Two-time European champion, you know, is impressive! yes
                1. Rustiger
                  Rustiger April 4 2013 13: 43 New
                  0
                  Two-time European Championship


                  Just a medalist. Well, not a champion.
                  "well, I didn't sniff, I didn't sniff" recourse request
                  Moreover, it was in adolescence and youth, before the army. Well, now, judging by the fact that the deffects from the accounting department are constantly resorting to peeping how to change clothes, it’s kind of like nothing else. . .
                2. Rustiger
                  Rustiger April 4 2013 13: 44 New
                  +1
                  Two-time European Championship


                  Just a medalist. Well, not a champion.
                  "well, I didn't sniff, I didn't sniff" recourse request
                  Moreover, it was in adolescence and youth, before the army. Well, now, judging by the fact that the deffects from the accounting department are constantly resorting to peeping how to change clothes, it’s kind of like nothing else. . .
                  1. Grishka100watt
                    Grishka100watt April 4 2013 18: 06 New
                    +2
                    Not weak!
                    I look, and the envious people have already set the minuses to amuse their own laziness laughing
                  2. carbofo
                    carbofo April 5 2013 11: 13 New
                    -2
                    Quote: Rustiger

                    Well, now, judging by the fact that the deffects from the accounting department are constantly resorting to peeping how to change clothes, it’s kind of like nothing else. . .

                    Is there something to look at?
          2. seed
            seed April 4 2013 14: 15 New
            +3
            Yeah, koment 120352 is stupid, I probably read it somewhere, I liked it, I decided to distort it with humor, and not out of place (or not to).
            And you guys are weightlifters and fighters - well done. To find and protect the national idea of ​​one keyboard is not enough.
    2. carbofo
      carbofo April 5 2013 11: 11 New
      -4
      Quote: Grishka100watt
      Wow, right pride for the country ran through the body good

      These are fleas.
      1. Grishka100watt
        Grishka100watt April 5 2013 11: 48 New
        +1
        And for what you only get paid.
        I don’t know, unite in a club of unfulfilled hopes of sponsors or something ..

        How did you get a job ?? You don’t even know how to troll!
  20. leonardo_1971
    leonardo_1971 April 4 2013 09: 45 New
    0
    Red flag with a sickle and a hammer!
    1. 120352
      120352 April 4 2013 10: 28 New
      0
      It is a symbol, not an idea.
    2. Victor ar
      Victor ar April 4 2013 13: 42 New
      -1
      This idea was already and it is not relevant for today in any way, despite the oblivion of the topic of the importance of caring for a working person.

      A computer mouse, if only ... judging by the number of people on the internet! )))
  21. fenix57
    fenix57 April 4 2013 09: 47 New
    +1
    Quote: yak69
    The emblem emanates a noble and proud impulse directed towards the future. Feels calm and power. The coat of arms instills confidence and justice.

    So choose an impulse ..... For me, Primorye is the same .... EAST, a considerable force .... hi
  22. Takashi
    Takashi April 4 2013 09: 56 New
    0
    I have another question: why cut out the "symbol of Russia" in the park? Are there not enough parks in the city of M? or ideas and money to create?
    drove a bulldozer, planted with grass, mowed for 2-4 years - here you have a park for people.
  23. Hius-124
    Hius-124 April 4 2013 09: 57 New
    +2
    It is foolish to choose material objects as symbols - the Valley of Geysers can again close the landslide tightly, historian. buildings - some promissory notes will come and destroy the fuck, ..... Only MEMORY is imperishable! And the symbols of Russia can only be our Great compatriots who have already entered HISTORY, and we can’t do the 10th - we are the Great Country: Alexander Nevsky and Kutuzov, Serafim Sarovsky and Lermontov, Minin and Pozharsky, Korolev and Tsiolkovsky, Sergey Radonezhsky and Tolstoy, Dmitry Donskoy and Timiryazev ... and many more worthy + those whom I mentioned above, these are our symbols, whom we are proud of! And the rest is MELT. yes
  24. Vrungel78
    Vrungel78 April 4 2013 10: 01 New
    +2
    In my opinion, the project is aimed at developing tourism. Well, then it is necessary to expand the project to "Russia-300". (83 subjects with 2-3 attractions). If possible, local authorities to shoot videos (films) and combine them into one site. Place your site on the pages of popular search engines. If only this process does not become another profonation and carve-up of the money allocated for it. signs.
    But the idea is good. good
    1. 120352
      120352 April 4 2013 10: 23 New
      +1
      It turned out to be easy to mislead. Tourism cannot be a national idea. Or have tourists from Asia and the Caucasus still not convinced you of this?
      1. Vrungel78
        Vrungel78 April 4 2013 10: 46 New
        0
        I didn’t set a minus, but I also disagree. I just assumed that this is being done as part of the development of tourism, just the event was loudly called. And do not mix in the topic of conversation spirits and gastric. Not talking about that.
  25. Mikado
    Mikado April 4 2013 10: 04 New
    +4
    "The people thought a little differently: the third place - Joseph Stalin, the second - Pyotr Stolypin, the first - Alexander Nevsky"

    That's just how it was not the people who "counted", but the comrades administrators on the site in the last hours of voting. Joseph Vissarionich confidently walked in the first place, but Nevsky was not even in the top ten. But then, suddenly, he took the first place, while this choice coincided with the opinion of the jury, it must have coincided.
    1. Corsair5912
      Corsair5912 April 4 2013 10: 26 New
      -3
      Quote: Mikado
      That's just how it was not the people who "counted", but the comrades administrators on the site in the last hours of voting.

      Absolutely.
      Who is Stolypin to be put on a par with Stalin? Why is he so honored? For "Stolypin's tie" for punitive actions against peasants and workers. There are no other "merits" for him.
      Nevsky, of course, is an exalted personality, and even a saint, but he has two battles and dubious ties with the Horde. Russians beat Germans and Swedes in the Baltic States constantly, and the victories of Alexander Nevsky were by no means epoch-making and not decisive.
      1. Victor ar
        Victor ar April 4 2013 13: 37 New
        -1
        I would not say "not epoch-making" that way. But he was devoid of ideology and spoke purely from the position of the Russian people and faith. And it was his faith that led him to the camp to cruel enemies, in order to beg for peace for Christians and give the opportunity to be filled with a population drained of raids from the east and the worst thing from the Catholic west. This was the most important front. If we were now Catholics, then the fate of Europe would befall us.

        More A.S. Pushkin said that: "A Pole, this is a Slav, from whom they took a Slavic soul."
    2. Skunk
      Skunk April 4 2013 12: 22 New
      -2
      ))) Again the hand of the Washington Regional Committee seems to be? )) Around the enemies that pushed Stalin into third place? Funny, really ...
      The national idea, nevertheless, should be close to the entire population of Russia. You ask young people who are now 14-17 years old who Stalin is. Answers will amuse. For example such "... the dude who lived under Churchill ...", well, similar.
      To elevate to the rank of a national idea a personality whose attitude to which the majority is far from positive, and youth before him in general as a bulb, is at least unreasonable. The same story with Bolshevik symbols on which here, on the forum, many are nostalgic. No, of course you can understand people, probably someone liked it under socialism ... But again, the national idea should unite everyone, and not work to satisfy the nostalgic memories of a small part of society.
    3. Victor ar
      Victor ar April 4 2013 13: 30 New
      +1
      Do not smother others with doubts about what you yourself are not sure.
      I would still choose Peter the Reformer or really Alexander Nevsky, he is closer to faith, which is rightly and correctly noted on the site.
  26. pensioner
    pensioner April 4 2013 10: 15 New
    +1
    Quote: 120352
    Lord! Stop cunning and don't let yourself be fooled. The main symbol of Russia = Russia is its history, its Russian people, which are now purposefully and calmly destroyed.

    The Russian people are successfully destroying themselves. The methods are known. To stop this disgrace, it is vitally necessary to take urgent measures to increase the educational level of the population. Through television, newspapers, internet, movies. Through everything that says and shows. Indeed, almost 100% of easily accessible information is entertaining in nature. And I said that softly. Make people move their brains. If for this you have to use violence, then do not be afraid of it and use ... In our history, all this has already happened. The output is only good for the country and for each citizen individually. The sleep of reason gives rise to monsters.
    1. Corsair5912
      Corsair5912 April 4 2013 10: 48 New
      +5
      Quote: retired
      The Russian people are successfully destroying themselves.

      Bullshit, the Russian people do not destroy themselves, they destroy it.
      The population is declining only because of the low birth rate.
      And the birth rate is declining due to a sharp decline in living standards in Russia compared to the USSR.
      Young families do not have children because of lack of housing, work, stable earnings, and prospects for a better future.
      Rising prices are so much faster than wage growth that housing for most citizens of Russia is not realistic, and the housing stock inherited from the USSR is deteriorating.
      The oligarchs are letting all the profits of enterprises go to the wind, rather than investing in the development of the country, and incompetent and thieving officials are wasting the budget on dubious adventures.
      1. Victor ar
        Victor ar April 4 2013 13: 26 New
        +3
        The standard of living is declining in Africa, but the birth rate there is breaking records. Fertility falls from a premonition of revolution. Putin thinks correctly: Give Russia 10 years of stability and you will not recognize it, it will overtake all world powers in terms of living standards and birth rates.
        1. Pinochet000
          Pinochet000 April 4 2013 15: 15 New
          -1
          Quote: Victor Ar
          Putin thinks correctly: Give Russia 10 years of stability and you will not recognize it

          Well, he had even more time, no?
        2. Evrepid
          Evrepid April 4 2013 19: 01 New
          0
          Well, actually this is not his thought ... And yes ...
  27. 120352
    120352 April 4 2013 10: 22 New
    0
    We must go not from symbols to ideas, but in the opposite direction: from ideas to symbols. It seems that they just want to confuse us with this "counter-move". The pertinent question is: "What symbolizes your idea"? And then, when there is an idea (context) for it, you can pick up illustrations, i.e. symbols, but not vice versa. Any set of picture symbols is initially discrete. The idea must be holistic. Ideas do not live in pieces.
  28. Executer
    Executer April 4 2013 10: 28 New
    +2
    The approach to the definition of national symbols is fundamentally wrong!
    Well, how can you compare man-made sights and natural phenomena ?! They definitely need to be divided!
    Well, compare the Kremlin and Lake. Elton! Which is better and what is inferior to the first? Incomparable things ....
  29. Roman Vasilenko
    Roman Vasilenko April 4 2013 10: 50 New
    +1
    It seems to me that our children, a healthy lifestyle, and cohesion of us as a single people should become the national idea of ​​Russia.
    1. Victor ar
      Victor ar April 4 2013 13: 23 New
      +1
      The national idea is to finally make a scientific history textbook, where everything would be laid out truthfully and sincerely throughout our complex life, so that the children finally figured out and understood everything correctly ... there shouldn’t be a lie. The truth is our strength!
      1. Tverichanka
        Tverichanka April 4 2013 22: 52 New
        0
        Quote: Victor Ar
        so that the children finally figured out

        But what are they themselves? Or without a textbook, no, no? I’m not against a good textbook, I’m against only trusting in it. Tell us that you yourself know what you read, saw what you witnessed, at least the history of the last 20 years. teach.
  30. dany
    dany April 4 2013 10: 50 New
    +2
    My opinion, specifically the photo posted in the article.
    Temple complexes for the Russian National Idea will not work in our MULTINATIONAL country. For example, the Tatars, the Cathedral of Christ the Savior, doesn’t fit the idea.
    The natural heritage, in the form of the same Baikal, cannot be an idea, since man did not make any efforts to create it, but only makes it up there. How can Baikal unite Kalmyk and Udmurt?
    I personally think that from the presented photos, the best option for the National Idea of ​​Russia is Mamaev Kurgan. Since this monument is a symbol of unity of all the peoples of the Great Country in the most difficult years of existence. In today's world, fragmentation and hostility between nationalities, in the Russian state, is at hand only for evil-minded enemies.
    TOGETHER - WE ARE FORCE!
  31. Anti
    Anti April 4 2013 10: 58 New
    +3
    Why is there no this symbol? The main one can say the symbol of Russia.
    1. Rustiger
      Rustiger April 4 2013 11: 38 New
      0
      Why is there no this symbol? The main one can say the symbol of Russia.

      But because he is t.s. repeatedly discredited himself over the centuries. And that Maskvabad is perceived by most Russians as a kind of viper populated by alenas, a hotbed of anti-Russian culture, which smelled of pressure from the television viewer around the clock. So is the symbol of an alien selling power. And also as a symbol of an attempt to create a new Khazaria on the territory of Russia a hundred years ago.
      1. Anti
        Anti April 4 2013 11: 46 New
        0
        Quote: Rustiger
        hotbed of anti-Russian culture


        And your nickname, a hotbed of Russian culture?
        1. Rustiger
          Rustiger April 4 2013 12: 35 New
          0
          And your nickname, a hotbed of Russian culture?


          Great argument! fool A masterpiece!
          Classic tyrnet genre. And the next post about the picture ???

          I sweated to chew that any forum nickname does not bind to anything. I have both a name and a surname ("very rare and not fucking Russian" laughing )

          And the Amur (Far Eastern) tiger can be called one of the main symbols of Russia, and in the world it is better known as "Russiansian tiger"...
          1. Anti
            Anti April 4 2013 14: 36 New
            -1
            laughing No need to scream and hit yourself on the head like that, and without that I would understand. So the Amur Tiger.
      2. Anti
        Anti April 4 2013 11: 48 New
        0
        Quote: Rustiger
        hotbed of anti-Russian culture


        And your nickname, a hotbed of Russian culture?
      3. Tverichanka
        Tverichanka April 4 2013 23: 08 New
        0
        Quote: Rustiger
        mu that he is t.s. repeatedly discredited himself over the centuries.

        Have you ever understood WHAT you wrote? In what centuries? Have all the brakes and don't be like yellow newspapers ... At the Kremlin walls, if you forgot, there was a parade in the 41st and people went to their deaths! And banners were defeated to the walls of the Kremlin the enemy at the Victory Parade !!!!! The fact that you personally don’t like something does not give you any right in such a tone and in such expressions to talk about the Kremlin, one of the most beautiful architectural ensembles in the world. And for Russians it has a special meaning! !! If we talk in such a tone about our Motherland and places symbolic for it, then what to expect from those who are all up to the lantern !!! We need to pull strangers so that we don’t dare to do this, but here we’ll water our own people, give an example. ... Be ashamed !!
    2. stalkerwalker
      stalkerwalker April 4 2013 21: 05 New
      +5
      Quote: Anti
      The main one can say the symbol of Russia.

      I support ....
      And familiar to the Russian eye, and symbolic.
      A more ancient sign of Russia can not be found.

      PS Moskvabad, the viper ..... But what, there is another financial, cultural center ....
      What do we have ....
      bully
  32. shurup
    shurup April 4 2013 11: 04 New
    0
    For most, the idea is associated with the walls, to protect against external and internal enemies. Inside the enclosed space, the objects of the cult's cultivation, serving the same purposes, are obligatory. The frontal spot is not mentioned, but implied.
    Personally, I would prefer the Laptyu monument located on the site of the Karl Marx monument in Moscow.
  33. Asgard
    Asgard April 4 2013 11: 12 New
    10
    Our country is turned upside down ....
    Some comments too .....
    In Russia, there can be no other national idea, acrom-RUSSIAN WORLD.

    Now, in terms of symbols ... "Worker and Collective Farm Woman", in principle, is not bad-Labor people. I supplied Kalguvaara granite from the Loukhi mine for finishing the pedestal, and it seems that I should be in favor, but no - This is not a symbol of the Russian State.
    Red flag - the state underneath it experienced a huge upsurge, won the war against the whole World. It became a powerful Imperial formation, raised the peoples of the outskirts on its shoulders and Formed as People, the Technological level of machine civilization rushed up sharply. (Soha-Atomic bomb))
    And the Russian people, in principle, do not mind - remember the transfer of the Name of Russia - there was a long time IW Stalin (then the editors of the 1 channel-trash)) it was stupid of course, and ALL THIS understood that we were living in the realm of FALSE. (Still)))
    So the Red Flag as an option .... there are fans of the imperial Romanov flag (Black-Yellow-White) ... but who are the Romanovs (for Leading People)) - Swindlers and persecutors of the Russian people. (Serfdom))
    So sweep away IMMEDIATELY ......
    Vlasov flag-Russian tricolor ..... In fact, the stripes are symbols of the worlds Prav - a white strip, Yav- (the manifested world in which we live)) the red stripe and Nav (world of ancestors, dead, departed from Yavi)) - a blue bar ......
    *** That's who the Dead World put over the world of the living — This is a big question — and is it worth going under the flag to attack and generally living ??? - we need to think about it somehow ..... And are we doing everything right ...- we look around -... and see that ALL WRONG,,,,,,,
    Swastika symbols ...Their image was spoiled by unreal "Aryans" and wait they are actively promoted by various Jewish entities KOB, Northern Brotherhood, Nationalists-that is the essence of the same Zionist projects)))
    What is the swastika, the slightly advanced ones will say that it is a symbol of the Sun (the star that warms the earth)), and you ask them why there are four Rays (SIX, EIGHT, TWO)) and why they break at 90 degrees, and here they start to think and think (what about not bad)) .......
    The fact is that the swastika is a symbol of the galactic People (galaxies rotate, having a center of rotation and a border where the speed increases)) and in a galaxy like a human body there are (9) energy manifestations ....

    Something I signed))) I would have to speculate separately, as a separate topic))) and you will help me to illuminate the issues with your comments ....

    A symbol of the country, Russian People cannot have ONE symbol. Since we are not gregarious animals like Jews or Caucasians, Anglo-Saxons or Chinese. We each have our own ROD. We are going to all together for two reasons, to drink)) and to defend the homeland ....
    It seems the second reason has come - to finally come RUSSIAN WORLD ......
    1. Anti
      Anti April 4 2013 11: 31 New
      0
      Quote: Asgard
      Since we are not gregarious animals like Jews or Caucasians


      How are you, with such a worldview better than them? mistakenly + set you ((((sorry it is not possible to fix (((
      1. Asgard
        Asgard April 4 2013 12: 20 New
        +4
        +/- who cares, You expressed their opinion (bow to you)) I put + for your comment (to mine))(and to the Old Rocketeer) so don’t be discouraged and trust your intuition)))) since your hands did so your intuition works correctly and it works YOU correctly ....
        But when the "mind" comes into play due to lack of knowledge, He can make wrong decisions and introduces dissonance in relations between People ...
        So my friend, be an Optimist (do not use the "LEFT" arrow ... better to be right)))) IN EVERYTHING ..... and study the machine "Timofeevich Kalashnikov" very soon come in handy ....

        And maybe you will remember with a Kind word "old man" Petkevich)))) later....
        1. Anti
          Anti April 4 2013 14: 32 New
          0
          I bow to you for your kind words and recommendations, I still want to express my attitude to the post above, here.
    2. old rocket man
      old rocket man April 4 2013 11: 43 New
      0
      [quote = Asgard] Russian People cannot have ONE symbol. Since we are not gregarious animals like Jews or Caucasians, Anglo-Saxons or Chinese. We each have our own ROD. We are going to all together for two reasons to drink)) and protect the homeland
      This is a plus, the rest is not indisputable. drinks ....
    3. baltika-18
      baltika-18 April 4 2013 13: 04 New
      +2
      Quote: Asgard
      Our country is turned upside down.

      Asgard, I always plus you, your thoughts are original, though not indisputable.
      Not trying to write? I would advise you.
      Could have a good conversation on these topics.
    4. Tverichanka
      Tverichanka April 4 2013 23: 19 New
      +2
      Quote: Asgard
      - to finally come RUSSIAN WORLD .....

      I subscribe to every word! We must be united by the GENERAL FOR EVERYONE!
  34. Aryan
    Aryan April 4 2013 11: 14 New
    -3
    A word on the fence ... sad
    1. Tverichanka
      Tverichanka April 4 2013 23: 23 New
      0
      Quote: Aryan
      A word on the fence ... sad

      What themselves, such and sledges .... Sgin ...
  35. Boris55
    Boris55 April 4 2013 11: 20 New
    +1
    First, a concept (idea), and then ideology (symbols). First you think, and then you do, and not vice versa (this does not apply to blondes).
    Since we have the Biblical concept, so many, unconsciously, choose its symbols (churches, temples, Kremlin). The competition held by the All-Russian State Television and Radio Broadcasting Company, which is the conductor of ideology, is a test of society, a test of the effectiveness of the influence of the Biblical ideology (divide, bleed and conquer) and its subsequent correction for an even more sophisticated deception of the people.
    Without changing the concept of changing its symbols, it is to distract the people from its essence.
    1. old rocket man
      old rocket man April 4 2013 11: 51 New
      +1
      [quote = Boris55]
      You are right about something (at the top and bottom) +, but the middle one is doubtful, in my opinion it is necessary to look at the biblical concept a little more broadly, to reduce it to the three words you mentioned, to put it mildly, not correctly. drinks
      1. Boris55
        Boris55 April 4 2013 12: 01 New
        -2
        This is her main task. While the people of friend-friend muzzle kvas - it grows fat drinks
        1. old rocket man
          old rocket man April 4 2013 13: 03 New
          +1
          Quote: Boris55
          Boris55


          Who is she?
  36. Normal
    Normal April 4 2013 11: 43 New
    +1
    If I chose the symbol of Russia, then for me it is a river. Yes, it is a river. For each his own. Volga and Dnieper, Oka and Moscow, Don and Tsna, Kama and Kolyma, Yenisei and Amur. A symbol of movement, beginning with the smallest and achieving great. Symbol of calm power and seething energy.
    If we talk about buildings and Temples, then for me it is not the Cathedral of Christ the Savior (in the people - an iron in a swamp) and not even the Temple of the Intercession on the moat (festive gingerbread), but the Temple of the Intercession on the Nerl
  37. Ilyukha
    Ilyukha April 4 2013 12: 32 New
    -2
    I remembered the 90s. Then every politician shouted about the national idea, moreover, if not complete nonsense, then something close was offered.
    But in fact, everyone shouted about his own, democrat-about the constitution (such a book is so-so-pretty)), priests about the church, shaking their beards (what should atheists do?)
    the Communists, about Stalin and Lenin (I wanted to kill the bloodsuckers again), the intellectuals, about all the incomprehensible canoe spirituality there)), the Natsiks are to blame for everything non-Russians.
    It seems to have subsided, and we began on average to live better.
    Can't shake society with these "national ideas"?
    Maybe we can just live without stirring up anything?
    The nineties showed that there simply cannot be a national idea accepted by all.
    1. Boris55
      Boris55 April 4 2013 13: 25 New
      +2
      Quote: Ilyukha
      The nineties showed that there simply cannot be a national idea accepted by all

      But not all. To hell with liberalism destroying an indigenous nation.
      Passing% in a thought to make 5% (was 7%)
      The largest nation in a% ratio, after Russians, Tatars - 3%. An opinion of less than 5% can be neglected. (Zussky did not drive anyone on the reservation)
      And why in the media, the instrument of conducting an ideology to the masses, does not smell Russian? And in the Duma they are not crowded ... Whose ideology, whose laws dominate in Russia?
  38. Bosk
    Bosk April 4 2013 13: 07 New
    +3
    Recently, either in Moscow or in St. Petersburg, a similar competition was held for the symbol of Russia ... it seems that the symbol has won- VANKA VSTANKA (tumbler), it seems a symbol with both meaning and content.
    1. Volkhov
      Volkhov April 4 2013 14: 01 New
      +1
      Competition with a catch - the Chinese may appear on the shore of Lake Baikal - geography, apart from the contour of the borders, cannot be an idea.
      Wisdom and justice are traditional foundations, just come back.
    2. Simon
      Simon April 4 2013 20: 33 New
      0
      A good idea. How many do not hit him, how many do not lie on his back, anyway, he gets up. It is because of this that they are afraid of Russia. yes
  39. sanyabasik
    sanyabasik April 4 2013 13: 35 New
    0
    sometimes it seems that the main national Jew - after us, even a flood..
  40. sanyabasik
    sanyabasik April 4 2013 13: 36 New
    +1
    sometimes it seems that main national Judea idea - after us at least flood..
    1. Rustiger
      Rustiger April 4 2013 13: 58 New
      0
      Zhideyaguys from the bath?
      Or in the sense of that. . ., looked from behind the hill as Ahmadinejid had already driven something there, and it was time for them to prepare. . .
  41. Tartary
    Tartary April 4 2013 13: 36 New
    +1
    And I believe that the Moscow Kremlin and St. Basil’s Cathedral, like the Lobnoe Place on Red Square, are always and will be the main symbol of Russia ...
    Another thing is that such a competition will allow the "sirem" to learn more about the diversity and many-sidedness of Great Russia, about its greatness (!).
    That every patriot will fight for every "Volochaevskaya Sopka" of his small homeland and also for the whole of Russia.

    However, I do not understand - under what matters the lotuses of the Far East? What we have here is nothing worse?
    So it is possible to attribute tulips, and mushrooms, and pine nuts to majestic symbols - some insanity ... So I think that venturers of such proposals, absolutely narrow-minded chelas, if not worse ...
    As a proverb says: - make a fool pray to God, he will break his forehead ... IMHO
    1. Boris55
      Boris55 April 4 2013 13: 57 New
      -1
      Quote: Tartary
      And I believe that ... like Lobnoye a place on Red Square there is always and will be the main symbol of Russia ...

      Do you know that the "red square" has been turned into a cemetery? Are you sure that the churchyard is a worthy symbol of Russia? wassat
      1. stalkerwalker
        stalkerwalker April 4 2013 21: 08 New
        +4
        Quote: Boris55
        Are you sure that the churchyard is a worthy symbol of Russia?

        No offense....
        And by what principle are avatars chosen?
    2. sanyabasik
      sanyabasik April 4 2013 14: 49 New
      +1
      Quote: Tartary
      I think that the Moscow Kremlin


      I am against the Kremlin as a symbol, because settled there, and apparently, for a long time, well, you will understand me ...
  42. to4kavserdce
    to4kavserdce April 4 2013 13: 46 New
    0
    Moscow Kremlin is the heart of Russia good
    1. Boris55
      Boris55 April 4 2013 14: 09 New
      -1
      Do you know the history of the Moscow Kremlin? This is not the heart of Russia, this is a stake in the heart of Russia.

      1. Kostya pedestrian
        Kostya pedestrian April 5 2013 14: 09 New
        -1
        As Yeltsin was told, you are Boris, so fight. By the way - and Hitler's ideas have not yet settled in your heart?

        The whole country defended Moscow and the Kremlin in 1941; Alexander Matrosov - with his heart rushed into the embrasure, protecting the heart of his homeland.

        Such statements can only suggest your limited horizons and the scarcity of your education. or excessive gullibility that "Abroad will help us!"
  43. VladUrich
    VladUrich April 4 2013 13: 52 New
    0
    How beautiful and multifaceted our country is. An idea can be love for one’s neighbor, relatives, relatives, friends. Respect and honor for the elderly and just for good people, regardless of faith, nationality. But with symbols it is more difficult to find something that would inspire many. It is only difficult to do under the current government.
  44. sanyabasik
    sanyabasik April 4 2013 13: 53 New
    +5
    for me, this is the main symbol of the motherland.
    1. Rustiger
      Rustiger April 4 2013 14: 17 New
      +1
      Very symbolic. Even no words, how symbolic !!!!! good fellow
      And here, I, as a father, are very close.
      He explained to his kids quickly and easily. "Mom stayed to defend the house, while dad forged enemies out of the hole." Is it intelligible?

      It was in May at dawn,
      The battle grew near the walls of the Reichstag.
      A German girl noticed
      Our soldiers are on the dusty pavement.

      At the post, trembling, she stood,
      In blue eyes there was a fright,
      A piece of whistling metal
      Death and flour were sown around ...

      Then he remembered how, saying goodbye, in the summer
      He kissed his daughter,
      Maybe the father of this girl
      He shot his own daughter ...

      But now, in Berlin, under fire,
      The soldier crawled and, blocking his body,
      Girl in short white dress
      Cautiously taken out of the fire.

      How many children were returned to childhood,
      Gave joy and spring
      Ordinary Army of the Soviet,
      People who won the war!

      And in Berlin on a festive date
      It was erected to stand in the ages,
      Monument to the Soviet soldier
      With the girl rescued on hands.

      He stands as a symbol of our glory,
      Like a lighthouse shining in the darkness.
      This is he - a soldier of my power -
      Protects world peace
      !
  45. Olegovi4
    Olegovi4 April 4 2013 14: 09 New
    +1
    And I also really like the poster "Motherland is calling!"
  46. VladUrich
    VladUrich April 4 2013 14: 11 New
    +4
    How beautiful and multifaceted our country is. The idea can be love for neighbors, relatives, relatives, friends. Respect and honor for the elderly generation and just good people, regardless of faith, nationality. But with symbols it is more difficult to find something that would inspire many. Only it is difficult to do this under the current government. Today I again learned about the sale of national wealth and the territory of Russia-mother, and to whom? "Rockefeller drilling rigs will appear in Russia" -http: //news.rambler.ru/18427848/. Masons are starting to buy up the country in parts and will not need to be captured. And who sells, our government, which seems to be worried about the country, but on What are the symbols of national companies such as Sberbank, Rosneft. Why on the emblems of ROSNEFT and SBERBANK OF RUSSIA is the ancient symbol of Jewish power Minor's candlestick depicted? Here are the idea and symbols that the government actually left for itself.
    1. sanyabasik
      sanyabasik April 4 2013 14: 24 New
      +2
      Quote: VladUrich
      Why are the emblems of ROSNEFT and SBERBANK of RUSSIA depicting the ancient symbol of Jewish power, the candlestick of Minor?


      because..
  47. Malleus
    Malleus April 4 2013 14: 33 New
    +4
    for everyone and everyone, no matter what ...
  48. Skunk
    Skunk April 4 2013 14: 44 New
    +2
    Perhaps each Russia’s sim. You can argue until blue in the blue about what should symbolize Russia, but never come to a consensus. And this is normal. For one person, his country is associated with the Kremlin, in another with the Neva, in a third with a field and a forest ... It will always be so. But without mutual respect, respect of the country for citizens and citizens for their country, there is nothing to look for a national idea. Rather, you can search for something, you can even appoint it only it will not be a national idea, but another empty government initiative with the development of non-acidic money for its implementation. First, mutual respect, then look for an idea.
    By the way, you can scold the USA and Europe as much as you like, only there the government gives citizens more reasons to respect their country than ours.
  49. Boris55
    Boris55 April 4 2013 14: 56 New
    0
    Judging by the current state of Russia, I think this image is closer, although it is not quite right ...
  50. Genoezec
    Genoezec April 4 2013 15: 07 New
    +1
    TOBOLSKY KREMLIN! for me the best sights of Russia