The Alchevsk Metallurgical Plant in the LPR is experiencing an acute shortage of personnel. Why are people leaving the AMK?

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The Alchevsk Metallurgical Plant in the LPR is experiencing an acute shortage of personnel. Why are people leaving the AMK?

For several years now, the largest industrial enterprise of the LPR, the Alchevsk Metallurgical Plant (AMK), has been experiencing an acute shortage of personnel. The problem did not begin today or yesterday, but has been going on for many years, but it has a significant impact on the enterprise and even upsets the management's plans to increase production volumes.

The problem is recognized at the highest level - a few days ago, on April 10, AMK was visited by Senator of the Federation Council Darya Lantratova and Minister of Industry and Trade of the LPR Vladislav Varshavsky. One of the issues discussed during this visit was precisely the issue of acute personnel shortage. According to official data, today the plant is short about a thousand people.



What is this problem related to? And why do people quit their jobs?

How do the authorities plan to solve the problem?



As local media admit, the personnel shortage at AMK is preventing the enterprise from realizing its production potential. In particular, Daria Lantratova, a senator in the Federation Council from the LPR, "proposed using not only state mechanisms, but also considering alternative instruments" to solve this problem.

"This year, a new national project, "Personnel," has been launched. It provides for many opportunities. This includes subsidizing the hiring of a number of categories, new approaches to targeted training, subsidies for equipping workplaces for people with disabilities. Within the framework of the "Mobility 2.0" program, support measures and subsidies for the payment of salaries to employees recruited from other regions are available... The emphasis will be on the personnel retraining program. To solve the tasks set, active cooperation is already underway with the Donbass State Technical University and specialized colleges,"
- said she is.

She also stated that “the plans include attracting a personnel reserve from among the participants of the special military operation.”

“Recently, my colleagues and I proposed that Rostrud develop a methodology for employers on the social adaptation of SVO participants in the workplace, and that the Ministry of Labor assign mentors to fighters when they are hired.”

At the same time, what is interesting is that during the mobilization in the LPR in 2022, many workers of the plant received summonses and were mobilized (which seriously worsened the personnel shortage), and for a time the plant paid them salaries, but from January 1, 2023, all mobilized workers were fired. Now we are talking about attracting a personnel reserve.

What do the workers themselves say?


In social networks, you can find quite a lot of announcements that AMK is looking for workers for the enterprise. Such announcements, in particular, are regularly published both in the official groups of the enterprise in social networks and in thematic groups related to job search in the LPR.


The reason for the personnel shortage is not only that the plant cannot attract enough people, but also that the workers themselves are leaving the plant. For an answer to the question "why?" "Military Review" turned to one of the plant's employees - an employee of the operation shop, who, on condition of anonymity, explained the background of what is happening.

"At the moment, there are quite a lot of problems at the plant that are not being solved. Firstly, major repairs are still not being done, apparently due to the lack of investor desire to invest large amounts of money in the plant. For example, our shop manager Roman Fomenko ran away from us and transferred to the Blast Furnace Shop, and no one is in a hurry to take his place, because we have devastation here.

Secondly, there are big problems with logistics. The volumes that the plant management plans, they cannot provide with the help of railway transportation. For example, the engineering and technical personnel of the railway shop were deprived of their bonus for March due to the downtime of the cars. But the guys are not to blame for this. It is the Luhansk Railway (LZhD) that cannot cope with transportation. And, thirdly, many are not satisfied with the level of wages,"
– says the factory worker.


Indeed, judging by the same ads on social networks, workers are offered salaries of 45-70 thousand rubles. In addition, many AMK workers are not happy with the fact that contractors (of which there are many at the enterprise) are paid higher wages than locals.

"There is a shortage of personnel in all workshops. If you read the latest news, they write there that the Ministry of Industry and Trade of the LPR offers specialists from other regions 100 thousand for moving and 500 thousand for moving. And the guys and I are thinking - maybe we should change our registration too?
– jokes the worker in the maintenance shop.

Thus, people are leaving the Alchevsk Metallurgical Plant not only because of low salaries, but also because of a number of problems at the enterprise itself, which the management has not yet been able to solve.
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  1. -2
    April 16 2025 05: 14
    There is a systematic replacement of the indigenous population. "Russian world" you say? No, we haven't heard.
    1. 0
      April 16 2025 05: 36
      Quote: g_ae
      There is a systematic replacement of the indigenous population. "Russian world" you say? No, we haven't heard.

      What did you get caught on?
      This is a man's job, and there are not many men left in the LPR. The enterprises remain, there is no one to work. There is a shortage of personnel.
      1. + 23
        April 16 2025 06: 17
        That's right. They'll bring in "hard-working men" from Central Asia. And there'll be salaries right away, and benefits, and schools for families, and free healthcare, and mosques.
        1. -9
          April 16 2025 06: 41
          Quote: g_ae
          That's it. They'll bring in "hardworking men" from Central Asia.

          At first they were going to import Jews, now from Central Asia?
        2. + 13
          April 16 2025 06: 58
          Quote: g_ae
          So they'll bring in "hardworking men" from...

          These hard-working people earn one and a half to two times more even without metallurgy...
        3. -9
          April 16 2025 12: 03
          Yes, let them live and work there, there is plenty of housing and empty land there
      2. + 23
        April 16 2025 08: 45
        Quote: Edik
        Shortage of personnel.

        Lack of desire to pay as required. What is 60 thousand now? Nothing. Raise the salary to at least 100 thousand and those willing will be found immediately, and if to 150-200 then there will be a queue. Our entire personnel deficit is only due to the unwillingness to pay normal money.
        1. -1
          April 16 2025 09: 32
          I completely agree that salaries are low, but it is still one of them.
          1. +6
            April 17 2025 02: 49
            There is no need to be disingenuous, this is the main thing, everything else is secondary.
          2. + 10
            April 17 2025 09: 03
            As one mechanic from a big city (not Moscow) told me - "I won't even get up from the couch for 5000" All work is from ten per day... And naturally it's not a 12-hour shift. So 4-6 hours of hack work without straining yourself. But this is freelance work. For an uncle 100-150. And here such a harmful production and 60..!? Someone wants to live very well.
        2. -6
          April 16 2025 21: 05
          Our entire personnel shortage is only due to the unwillingness to pay normal money.

          Only a person who doesn't understand anything about economics could write this. If there was money at the plant, there would be salaries and better working conditions.
          Why do they think that the plant is run by monsters who specifically don’t want to pay wages?
          1. +6
            April 17 2025 09: 05
            Quote: Alexey Lantukh
            Why do they think that the plant is run by monsters who specifically don’t want to pay wages?

            Life experience. The management makes salaries for themselves an order of magnitude (let me remind you that it is 10 times) higher than for the workers. And this is despite the lack of profits. Our owners of newspapers of steamships have a strange logic that first you need to make a profit, and then maybe pay (although if you worked for next to nothing before, then why pay more?). Maybe you need to invest first? That is, first we invest money, and then maybe we get a profit and then it will be immediately clear who is a talented entrepreneur, and who, thanks to the moment and machinations, became an oligarch. There is one interesting point that all the geniuses of entrepreneurial activity who fled abroad with their millions and billions were unable to organize anything except buying a couple of restaurants.
            1. +3
              April 17 2025 10: 27
              The management makes salaries for itself an order of magnitude (let me remind you that this is 10 times) higher than for the workers.

              This is common practice. Everywhere. The brutal grin of capitalism. But, at the same time, at prosperous enterprises, where there is good income, workers are still paid good salaries by local standards. By local standards, because in Moscow and, say, in Tver, the average salary level is very different.
              1. +1
                April 17 2025 15: 08
                Quote: Alexey Lantukh
                This is a common practice.

                The previous message was that they pay little because there is no money. To which I responded that there is money, since they do not deprive themselves of their beloved selves.
          2. 0
            April 22 2025 08: 57
            Quote: Alexey Lantukh
            Why do they think that the plant is run by monsters who specifically don’t want to pay wages?

            Why on earth would one think that in the era of capitalism the plant is headed by altruists and philanthropists?
            1. -2
              April 22 2025 13: 15
              Why on earth would one think that in the era of capitalism the plant is headed by altruists and philanthropists?

              You yourself worked at an industrial enterprise. At a good enterprise they pay a good salary not as some kind of gift, but because with a good salary the team is stable, there is less defect, less equipment breaks. And when the enterprise does not have sufficient income, then the salaries are low, the team is unstable, there is more defect and breakdowns, the technical condition of the equipment deteriorates.
              1. +2
                April 25 2025 20: 06
                Don't make me laugh, specialist. We need to invest, update production. We paint with spray guns, heat in ovens, shape by hand, "weld" by hand, drag round, roll flat. There is no erosion equipment, coordinate grinding-boring machines. There are no processing centers. And the production facilities themselves are from "war" and post-war times. I'm not even talking about foundries, fans, ... And as for directors - 10 people with upper legal and economic ... We have never seen production in our lives. In the age of computers, there are accountants like uncut dogs, and all kinds of security... 1 to 1 with workers.. It's impossible to describe without tears (the photo - the screensaver speaks for itself "modern" production". Watch the "videos" about the capture of the Mariupol plant - it should have been demolished 50-60 years ago. And people there "breathed" sh-t and poisoned the sea.
                1. 0
                  April 25 2025 21: 21
                  Here I wrote about good enterprises. And there are such. And they pay normal salaries. However, a good salary in the city of Belgorod and Moscow can differ several times. Of course, there are many outdated industries.
        3. +9
          April 17 2025 02: 19
          Quote: qqqq
          What is 60 t now?

          that's the maximum, there's a crane operator with hazardous substances of categories 1 and 2 - 40-45 thousand. It's surprising that someone is still working
        4. +1
          April 18 2025 09: 45
          I completely agree. Everywhere officials are screaming that there are no workers, there are not enough employees, and not one has said why they are not going. Give them a normal, good salary and there will be a line to get a job.
        5. 0
          April 25 2025 18: 14
          If you pay 100-150 thousand rubles for blue-collar jobs, that means the plant management should cut their salaries. They won't do that, they've gotten used to their fat salaries.
          1. +1
            10 May 2025 17: 15
            No, that means cutting into the owner's profits.
      3. +5
        April 17 2025 14: 01
        Shortage of personnel? We don't have any shortage of personnel in the country, we have a shortage of people willing to work for food and "thank you". laughing
        What idiot would go to work in a hot shop for 45 thousand? Until the owners understand that they need to slightly cut the length of their yachts and the number of floors in their villas and pay so much that people go to work and create conditions for work. Plus invest in the development of technology, and not live as they are used to, why buy new machines, it is easier to bring a hundred Tajiks who will smelt a kilogram of steel per snout in pots. But cheap.
    2. + 37
      April 16 2025 06: 27
      I'll put it this way. Why don't people go to work at enterprises? I'll try to list the reasons, according to my experience and based on what my friends and acquaintances tell me when I talk:
      1- Salary. This is the main thing. The level of salaries at the overwhelming majority of enterprises and companies does not correspond to inflationary changes, the increased level of prices in the country, the complexity and danger of production, production and depends only on the "generosity" of the management or owner of the company. It is no secret that the management of companies and enterprises does not want to increase the salaries of their hired workers for the sake of reducing the cost part and ideally want people to work for a bowl of soup...
      2- Increased intensification of labor. Workers are forced by any means to toil as much as possible: the 8-hour workday has long been forgotten - now they work 9, 10, 12 and sometimes 16 hours a day. How do managers achieve this? Very simply - with low salaries and provision of overtime to "increase salaries", "one-off rush jobs" that become permanent, "irregular hours", "production necessity", "inventory after hours", "meetings after hours", "brainstorming after hours", etc.
      3-Intensification of labor by combining several professions and assigning additional responsibilities at a minimum salary. A typical example is "fitter-storekeeper-assembler-accountant-driver-forklift operator-cleaner+++.
      4-Lack of work organization. The one who does something, performs a task, must organize everything himself - make a plan, work out the technical process, coordinate, obtain materials, organize others, etc.
      5-Lack of occupational health and safety. They'll give you a helmet and a worn-out overall and a dust mask and that's it - no matter that the ceiling will soon collapse, the wires are hanging down to the floor everywhere, steam is leaking through the connections, the area is littered, etc.
      6-Fines for every little thing. It's no secret that wages now consist of a meager salary + overtime + bonuses. So they force you, put you in such conditions so that you overwork more and cut your bonuses with various fines - even for looking askance at your boss or catching his eye when he's not in the mood.
      7-Rude attitude towards the personnel of the immediate superiors and management. They manage according to the principle: "Hey you! Come here! Who did I tell you! Do what I told you! What? Are you still not happy?"...etc. etc. The personnel are constantly reminded that they were supposedly given a favor by hiring them, allowing them to work at such a "wonderful enterprise" or "advanced company", and they should be proud of this and appreciate it, and not "whine" about difficult working conditions and low salaries.
      These are the main reasons for not wanting to go to work for enterprises and companies. If you eliminate them, then people will go. BUT! No one wants or will eliminate anything - on the contrary, according to what I hear from various types of managers, they purse their lips and think that nothing - "they will want to eat and in order not to die of hunger, they will run to look for any job... You just have to wait... "
      1. + 18
        April 16 2025 06: 40
        One of the main reasons - if not the main reason, even the root cause -
        Firstly, major repairs are still not being carried out, apparently due to the lack of investor desire to invest large amounts of money in the plant.

        And not only in capital repairs. The unwillingness of "investors" to invest when they want to withdraw.
        The Theory of the Firm clearly shows the stages of development of the company - the last "milk cow" - milking the cow, literally. Milking everything without investing in repairs and reconstruction, when it is decided that the company is done.
        We have been at this stage for 35 years. Money is being taken out, companies, factories, etc. are being milked...
      2. + 19
        April 16 2025 07: 13
        I support all seven points, but the first will always be the determining one. And people are ready to endlessly tolerate the other six, if the material component allows the worker and his family to live more or less tolerably.
        Quote: Monster_Fat
        If they are eliminated

        What's the point? The profit of the "effective owner" is made up of these points, and without burdening the gentleman with "high thoughts". Fairy tales about "socially oriented capitalists" will remain fairy tales for a very gullible electorate...
        1. + 10
          April 16 2025 07: 30
          The question is different. Why the hell do Russian "effective managers" need such a huge headache? There are not enough metallurgical plants in Russia to nurture this competitor? I think Russian metallurgical oligarchs drank for a month when the plants in Mariupol were wiped out, and now they suddenly start doing this. They'll drag it out for a few more years, then the equipment will go to scrap metal, the money to London, the dissatisfied will be replaced by Asians and everyone will be in chocolate. Effective and optimal. They'll also get state awards, not this.
          1. +5
            April 16 2025 08: 40
            Quote: g_ae
            few metallurgical plants

            Yes, there is enough steel, even more than enough, and exports have fallen due to sanctions in the West and competition with Chinese steel in the East. The construction industry is helping out...
            1. +7
              April 17 2025 02: 17
              Quote: Doccor18
              The construction industry comes to the rescue...

              helped out. What kind of construction is there now with a 30% mortgage? And with the prices of apartments, even at 3% you'll be giving away half your salary
              1. +2
                April 17 2025 05: 43
                Quote from alexoff
                helped out

                And now it helps. Despite the sky-high interest rates, new buildings are springing up like mushrooms after a July rain...
        2. + 10
          April 16 2025 13: 20
          Profit is unpaid labor. Profit is the main goal of the capitalist. Our capitalists historically do not come to their senses until they are lifted on pitchforks. It was Ford who could suddenly decide to pay his workers so that they could buy a car. And give them a day off so that they could go for a ride. And only if the capitalist has extra money. As soon as there is a crisis, the attraction of unheard-of generosity ends.
          1. +4
            April 16 2025 13: 23
            Quote from alexoff
            As the crisis goes on, the attraction of unheard-of generosity ends

            And if we take into account that it is from crisis to crisis, then we should not expect any “attractions”, because they were never planned here...
      3. +8
        April 16 2025 07: 32
        Quote: Monster_Fat
        I will try to list the reasons, according to my experience and based on what my friends and acquaintances tell me when communicating

        The reasons you listed are true, to varying degrees, at most enterprises throughout Russia. The owner will not let his penny slip away, and "there is a line of people wanting to get in outside the gates." And in this case, IMHO, the owners' desire to simply bankrupt the enterprise is evident.
        PS Why did this article end up in the "Weapons" section and not in Opinions or Analytics?
        1. -5
          April 16 2025 09: 42
          Quote: Good evil
          And in this case, IMHO, it looks like the owners simply want to bankrupt the enterprise.

          I thought so too, the owner is doing everything not to develop the business, but simply to ruin it. In the future, his place on the market will be taken by a more far-sighted one.
          1. Alf
            +3
            April 16 2025 18: 34
            Quote: Edik
            In the future, his place in the market will be taken by a more far-sighted one.

            For some reason I have doubts. Look, Potanin moved the plant to China and everything is fine, and he saw Russian workers on one organ.
      4. +5
        April 16 2025 10: 15
        So, let's play employee bingo... from my previous job all the numbers matched except 5 and 6. )))
        Moreover, if in the regions, especially in Donbass, it is still possible to somehow justify the position "where will you go from the only enterprise". But that's not the case - even in Moscow they told me the same. Well, good luck - for a year now they have been looking for people to take my place and the positions of my colleagues who left with me... or maybe they are not looking - they have distributed the duties among those who remain, as in point 3, and everything is fine with the management again. Only the work is at a standstill.
      5. 0
        April 16 2025 10: 20
        Quote: Monster_Fat
        Here are the main reasons for reluctance to go to work for enterprises and companies.

        If it’s not a secret, are you an employee of the company, or are you related to it as a contractor?
      6. +1
        April 22 2025 09: 03
        Quote: Monster_Fat
        Here are the main reasons for reluctance to go to work for enterprises and companies.

        So capitalism, happiness, awesome.
        Quote: Monster_Fat
        ...We just have to wait.....

        Yes, yes. The whole problem is that the line for the fence ended long ago.
      7. 0
        April 25 2025 20: 12
        I partially described something like this above. You are more complete. I completely agree with you. I was a director, technical director, deputy general director.... My last factory position was technical director of a large industrial plant, and next to me were four deputy directors (relatives of the owners), all with a history or philology education. They were wagging their tongues like a broom. And their salary was 2-3 times higher than mine. P.S. There was also a favorite saying - a line outside the gates...
      8. 0
        10 May 2025 17: 20
        That's why we need trade unions. Previously, you could complain about the trade union organizer and the party organizer, but now there is no one, there is no counterweight to management. Which is not good for the leadership either.
  2. + 26
    April 16 2025 05: 16
    The author has pounded water in a mortar and written a lot of letters. People go to work for money!!!! Start paying money and not 70 thousand rubles and oh, a miracle! The problem will disappear. Employers really like to whine about a shortage of personnel, but they don't like to pay people money
    1. +7
      April 16 2025 06: 06
      What is, is! They don't want to pay...they work by inertia, they still think that for 60 thousand rubles there is a line for a fence fool
    2. +8
      April 16 2025 10: 26
      Quote: Clever man
      Start paying money instead of 70 thousand rubles and oh miracle! The problem will disappear.

      Not necessarily. Judging by the fact that they are calling to a place where they will have to breathe in carcinogens of 1-2 hazard classes, then a serious restructuring of technological processes is needed there. To begin with, a comprehensive examination should be conducted there regarding the general ability of the enterprise to operate and provide normal working conditions. And these are questions for the owners, who, judging by the scattering of engineering and technical workers, should be concerned with large investments in correcting technical processes and fixed assets. This is expensive. But if this is not done, then the workplaces themselves will become hazardous...
      1. Fat
        +4
        April 16 2025 14: 17
        Among other things. Having accrued 100 thousand rubles to the employee, the enterprise will additionally pay all insurance premiums. Insurance premiums are accrued on top of the salary and include pension, social and medical insurance, as well as accident insurance. In 2025, the single rate of insurance premiums is 30%.... Accident insurance at hazardous production is higher, this is at least another 6℅
        Personal income tax (PIT) is a tax that the company deducts from the accrued salary.
        In total, out of 100 thousand, only 87 thousand were accrued in hand. Why do you think the practice of paying salaries in envelopes for "very necessary specialists" in "very necessary cases" is still practiced?
  3. + 32
    April 16 2025 05: 28
    For 70 thousand in a foundry, in a war-torn region? It's strange what could go wrong.
    1. + 13
      April 16 2025 06: 04
      And I mean the same, the ravings of a madman. And people really think and wonder why slaves don't go for slave crumbs? Don't want to work for food?
      1. Alf
        +4
        April 16 2025 18: 37
        Quote: Clever man
        And I mean the same, the ravings of a madman. And people really think and wonder why slaves don't go for slave crumbs? Don't want to work for food?
        1. +3
          April 16 2025 18: 58
          Weren't we taught that we live in a market economy? And who decided that a good employee should receive 40 thousand? There is a market, and the market says 100 thousand is the minimum, all gentlemen directors live with this
          1. Alf
            +2
            April 16 2025 19: 41
            Quote: Clever man
            All gentlemen directors live with this

            The whole problem is that the gentlemen directors do not understand this and do not want to understand it. And it turns out to be a formula from the classics - the lower classes can't, and the upper classes don't want to.
        2. +2
          April 17 2025 12: 27
          The following conclusion follows from this: the directors of enterprises, as well as their owners, have become greedy, have lost their bearings, have become insolent; VTsIOM and Rosstat are engaged in professional fraud and deception of those in power and the population.
    2. +8
      April 16 2025 13: 47
      got spoiled))) not a job but a dream came in hot pogambalil breathed poison came to the hostel and sleep rest))) and not for nothing but 45 thousand rubles I remember how the priest hired a worker the same scheme
  4. + 18
    April 16 2025 05: 36
    Pay workers decent wages, please them with quarterly and thirteenth bonuses, pay for compulsory medical insurance, etc. and people will immediately be found. But the greed of management knows no bounds, it is easier for them to rake in a salary for themselves while they are at the trough and to have time to arrange all their buddies as deputy mayors and bosses of various calibers. This is a nationwide problem, not just in the LPR.
  5. + 17
    April 16 2025 05: 39
    So the senator and the minister went, and so what? Did they decide anything, did they help anyone? An empty PR campaign and an empty article.
    1. +9
      April 16 2025 11: 07
      The senator and the minister would take half a job and work for the mart for a month for 70 thousand rubles, and maybe their eyes would open.
  6. +5
    April 16 2025 05: 43
    We can't pay big money. We can't provide comfortable housing. How else can we attract workers to enterprises? If enterprises don't have their own departmental housing, then it's bad for them. This is what attracted many workers to get a job. Work for 2-3 years and the housing is yours. Oh, yes, I forgot about privatization.
    1. +4
      April 16 2025 08: 35
      Primitive housing policy is the main problem. And then there is the unprecedented rise in housing prices, which began at the end of 2021.
    2. Alf
      +2
      April 16 2025 18: 38
      Quote: Nikolay Malyugin
      How else can we attract workers to enterprises?

      Prohibit leaving the factory.
      1. +5
        April 17 2025 04: 13
        And charge an entrance fee. laughing
  7. +4
    April 16 2025 05: 43
    Increase salaries, especially bonuses for heavy industries + social conditions, as for those invited. This is the minimum. I won't say anything about repairs.
    You can take the initiative to approach the regional administration to invite comrades from the DPRK to work. No kidding.
    So that they don’t bring in Dzhamshuts and Ravshans.
  8. BAI
    +6
    April 16 2025 06: 04
    I was in Alchevsk. There was no smoke from the chimneys. Like in the picture.
    What railway transportation? The railways there are 95% idle, the track is overgrown with trees. In 4 months I saw only 2 (two) railway trains in 2024. In 2023 - not a single one.
    The plant needs major repairs (for this it must become state property) and a sales market. Then there will be salaries and people will not leave
    1. +8
      April 16 2025 21: 14
      Quote: BAI

      The plant needs major repairs (for this it must become state property) and a sales market. Then there will be salaries and people will not leave
      How to Profit - So the owner of the plant...
      How to Overhaul - so go into state ownership...
      And then again Privatization - because public administration is not effective...
      So why was there a transition to state ownership? Overhaul at the expense of the state??
      request
      1. BAI
        +1
        April 16 2025 23: 30
        A private owner cannot repair it - there is no money. And the state cannot repair property that does not belong to the state.
        And if this circle is not broken, the plant is doomed.
  9. +8
    April 16 2025 06: 12
    and for a time the plant paid them salaries, but from January 1, 2023, all those mobilized were fired.

    ??? This is a direct violation of Russian legislation, it’s time for the Prosecutor’s Office to pay close attention to this.
    And with such an approach to personnel, why be surprised that there is a “personnel shortage” at the plant?
    It is pointless to ask the question if there is a “personnel shortage” in the Ministry of Industry and Trade of the LPR?
    1. + 11
      April 16 2025 08: 15
      And what does the prosecutor's office need from this? What will the prosecutor get from this? Nothing, except problems and headaches. It is much more profitable, safer and more profitable to defend the rights of the same migrants or fight the terrible "Russian skinheads", for example. Good Uncle Turpal is always happy to settle with respected people. Have you noticed that in all significant and resonant cases lately only the voice of the head of the Investigative Committee Bastrykin is heard, and the prosecutor's office is somewhere like mice under a broom. But it should be the other way around. You can steal billions, and the prosecutor's office will not see anything, like with the national projects for the recovery of the Volga or Baikal, for example. And has the prosecutor's office not seen the tricks of Moisha Barukhovich? They have. Prosecutors in Russia make money, and do not monitor compliance with the law.
      1. +3
        April 16 2025 09: 13
        The Prosecutor's Office is responsible for overseeing compliance with the Constitution of the Russian Federation and the execution of laws. And here there is a direct violation of the rights and freedoms of citizens, especially of the participants of the SVO.
        1. +5
          April 16 2025 09: 17
          Russia is a capitalist country. Demand creates supply. The market decides. The law is like a drawbar. And it is obvious from whom the prosecutor will get more. From the owner of factories, newspapers, steamships, or from these poor fellows who are forced to work for him? The prosecutor's office provides services like health care or education.
          1. Fat
            +2
            April 16 2025 14: 43
            Quote: g_ae
            Russia is a capitalist country.

            Russia has a Keynesian economy. The "free" capitalist market never happened, and could not. The Russian economy is regulated by the state and is managed by the government almost manually.
            As a result, half is the plan, half is the market, and that's conditional. With all the negativity that follows from the disorder.
            1. +1
              April 23 2025 01: 25
              Quote: Thick
              The "free" capitalist market never happened, and could not.

              In Russia, the country lives by the laws of an extremist-liberal economy. For now, the country has a wild surplus of labor resources, especially engineering and design. Today, I was offered a lower price for a serial Chinese robot to make a domestic one from scratch in a single copy. Moreover, it seems that the customer believes that I can develop servo drives cheaper than the factories from China sell. The shortage of personnel in Russia will be felt when they lure engineers and highly qualified specialists-workers from Germany, Great Britain and Switzerland to Russia with long rubles, as under Peter I, Catherine II and Alexander I. A friend who owns a woodworking plant in Dyushanbe in 1 made an unsuccessful attempt to hire carvers from China for 2 euros per month. It seems that not a single Chinese with the necessary qualifications could be found for such a beggarly salary. And by 1, Tajikistan, at Russia’s expense, solved the problem with IT specialists by starting to pay Russians a little more than in Russia.
              1. Fat
                0
                April 23 2025 08: 40
                Welcome.
                If the Russian economy developed according to the principle of "laze fer", when the state does not interfere in business in any way, you would be right.
                However, in our country there is a huge number of state and semi-state factories, plants and other enterprises in almost all branches of industry. Plans and programs are proclaimed and implemented... During the reign of F. D. Roosevelt, the state in the USA introduced draconian measures to combat dumping, made sure that private traders did not work at night and other semi-anecdotal measures...
                It's hard for me to tell everything in one post. Here's the link:
                https://cyberleninka.ru/article/n/novyy-kurs-f-ruzvelta-reviziya-politiki-i-ee-rezultatov.
                The article contains many unexpected conclusions.
                I also have some private examples from my own experience.
                But let's talk about this not under this article, but next time.
                With respect.
        2. +1
          April 19 2025 09: 46
          Hello! From our enterprise, everyone who was called up - salaries stopped being paid immediately. Only a place was left for them - they are only appointed to positions as a replacement. Only a few will return to our enterprise - the owners are saving, they are not raising salaries. They have already started organizing job fairs)
          1. +2
            April 19 2025 10: 19
            Good afternoon,
            According to the law, the employment contract is suspended, payments are not made, but there is no right to fire.
            The owners are saving and not raising salaries.

            this is a natural phenomenon...alas...
  10. +8
    April 16 2025 06: 16
    Question... where are we doing well with WORKERS??? And where are we doing well with qualified SPECIALISTS???
    You can ask questions like these over and over again and never get an answer.
    Although, let's be realistic... a conversation on this and similar topics is futile and there are objective and subjective reasons for this.... but EVERYWHERE IS GOOD WHERE WE ARE NOT wink
    1. BAI
      +7
      April 16 2025 10: 19
      Question... where are we doing well with WORKERS??? And where are we doing well with qualified SPECIALISTS???


      In the administrations of the President and the Government
      1. +2
        April 16 2025 10: 41
        Well, yes, it was just a joke and that's all...
        However, in terms of income level everything is good there, there is no argument about that.
    2. +2
      April 16 2025 11: 09
      It's good where they pay money, give benefits and the salary is fair.
    3. +3
      April 17 2025 15: 36
      Rocket757 Almost the only comment that I liked as a former metallurgist. Today's youth does not go into metallurgy, although the salary is over 100 thousand rubles. Even 10-15 years ago, the management told the dissatisfied that there were queues behind the fence. 15 years ago, there were even people willing to work at the plant who offered money to anyone who would help them get a job at the plant. It's hard to believe, but I even remember these ads. Now the situation is completely opposite. Constant thoughtless and often absurd staff reductions by the management of departments for the sake of praise from the owner have worsened the already shortage of labor. It will be even more fun...
      1. +1
        April 17 2025 18: 28
        In our big chemistry, it’s the same thing!
        The owner changed and off we go!!!
        I, a pensioner, was sent to STUDY!!! I must receive three licenses/certificates for "non-core repairs"!!!
        That is, my polytechnic diploma is no longer ENOUGH to do... or rather not to do, I can do that anyway, but HAVE THE RIGHT TO DO such crap that no one else in the entire workshop knows how to do and can do!!! This is so that I could prepare, teach a couple of new specialists who came after the institute, to do at least something that is needed, so that it would really work!!!
        In short, it's a MADHOUSE... I'll stay until the New Year, and then I'll run away... I'm tired of all this!
        Yesterday the new director of the IC came to talk about some issues... he wanted to teach us how to live and work fool so the deputy technical director covered my mouth with his hand so that I wouldn't send that idiot to... to the very right place. He promised to give me a bonus for not biting off his finger good
        And so, my opinion... everything is very tense at production and the departure of pensioners will complicate everything greatly.
        There are few young specialists, they run away, however, and very quickly, alas... and they have to be taught and guided constantly, and these are those who are generally ready and want to learn.
        1. +1
          April 17 2025 20: 52
          The time has come for careerist managers without experience and knowledge of real work, but with enormous ambition, arrogance and a desire to teach others nonsense to the detriment of real work.
          1. 0
            April 17 2025 22: 05
            That's what they think, but... production is a complicated matter, and without specialists it could all go to hell.
  11. + 11
    April 16 2025 06: 37
    The Alchevsk Metallurgical Plant in the LPR is experiencing an acute shortage of personnel. Why are people leaving the AMK?

    The question is rhetorical and meaningless. The country is so organized that a worker is obliged to work for food until death...
    First of all, figure out for yourself how it happened that in the country people who do productive work began to earn (live worse) than parasites and speculators...
  12. +9
    April 16 2025 07: 19
    This includes subsidies for hiring a whole range of categories, new approaches to targeted training, and subsidies for equipping workplaces for people with disabilities.

    Excellent plan, reliable as a Swiss watch! Let's hire disabled people instead of healthy ones for heavy metallurgy! Why not? A disabled person is not spoiled with money, healthy people don't want to work for a bowl of soup, but it would be just right for a disabled person. :((
  13. + 10
    April 16 2025 07: 19
    Workers are offered salaries of 45–70 thousand rubles.

    Is this a joke? Are the capitalists unlucky with the people again? They don't pay the people, but they want the people to come to the enterprise as if to a fair!

    In this case, the management's position is very cynical towards people. The problem that has arisen must be solved first of all by removing this terrible management.

    And I never saw 45-70 thousand in the ad. It was from 40 to 65 thousand.
    1. + 10
      April 16 2025 08: 55
      And now everyone has become cunning and indicates their salary in advertisements as "gross", before deducting 13% tax.
      1. -2
        April 16 2025 10: 02
        What do you mean "now"? As far as I can remember, the salary has always been stated before taxes.
    2. +7
      April 16 2025 10: 07
      The problem that has arisen must be solved first of all by removing this terrible management.

      Have they already decided, from oligarch Kurchenko to oligarch Yurchenko... from oligarch Yurchenko to another oligarch? It's surprising how Donbass was restored after the civil war, after the Great Patriotic War? And restored for themselves, and not for the oligarchs, to receive super profits. And so yes... the leadership needs to be removed... With such leadership, the whole country will thunder under fanfares wink
    3. Alf
      +2
      April 16 2025 18: 41
      Quote: Stas157
      And I never saw 45-70 thousand in the ad. It was from 40 to 65 thousand.

      "DIRTY"...
    4. 0
      April 23 2025 01: 27
      Quote: Stas157
      Is this a joke? Are the capitalists unlucky with the people again?

      In Afghanistan under the Taliban, the salary is now interesting for an electrician there - about 500 dollars, a good seamstress - about 200 dollars a month.
  14. +7
    April 16 2025 08: 17
    Well, what conclusions did the senator and the prime minister come to? What measures did they decide to take to solve the problem? One thing is good, judging by the article, there is no management outflow. laughing There just aren't enough workers... If things continue like this, "effective managers" will go around the world. smile It is strange that the author did not indicate the fact that the largest metallurgical and coke chemical enterprises, which had been under the management of the Vneshtorgservis company (former Ukrainian oligarch Kurchenko, from Yanukovych's entourage) since 2017, were transferred to the YUGMK company in 2021. What is important is that they were not sold, but transferred. The owner and CEO of YUGMK is Evgeny Yurchenko. Yurchenko's orbit includes the largest plants. In the DPR, these are the Yenakiyevo and Makeyevka metallurgical plants, Makeyevkoks, YaKhZ and Komsomolsk mine administration. In the LPR, these are the Alchevsk Metallurgical Plant and the Stakhanov Ferroalloy Plant. YUGMK has been appointed temporary manager of these enterprises. And in Russia, everything temporary becomes permanent. YUGMK is 100% owned by Yurchenko.
  15. +6
    April 16 2025 08: 50
    they themselves (the management and owners) have created these problems over the years of their "talented" management and solving them will become more and more difficult each time, if they don't have enough workers, this means that the workload is redistributed to others, which in turn means that others will leave at the first opportunity, pre-retirement people will work out (and I'm sure that they are the majority there) and that will be the end of their business, the funniest thing is that the authorities are very actively involved in solving problems that actually shouldn't bother them, they like to shift costs onto society, while the profit is appropriated by a narrow circle of people...
  16. +8
    April 16 2025 09: 00
    [/quote]Why do people leave AMK?[quote]

    Without even reading the article, I immediately gave the answer - because of difficult working conditions and low wages. But the "wise men" from the Federation Council and the LPR Ministry of Labor started from the wrong place. As always, they did not delve into the essence of the problem. What they propose is correct, but still will not solve the problem. The problem will be solved by working conditions and wages.
  17. +6
    April 16 2025 10: 17
    The plant is private and its problems are solved by the state
    1. Alf
      +8
      April 16 2025 18: 42
      Quote: koksalek
      The plant is private and its problems are solved by the state

      Privatization of profits and nationalization of losses...
  18. +6
    April 16 2025 10: 27
    Alas. It has been known for a long time.
    Local capitalists and officials are profiting from workers and residents.
    there were articles, and here too
    Yes, even from this one:
    The workers were forcibly mobilized.
    then illegally fired.
    small salary (and they wrote that the prices there are Moscow prices)
    Dirty, life-threatening production.
    There is no responsibility before the law for any authorities.

    Alas, there is no way out.
    For example, they wrote: almost all miners were mobilized, and while they are not there, the authorities asked Putin (it seems there are some bureaucratic reservations) to privatize all the mines (and it is clear who will privatize these mines, not the shaved miners)
  19. +4
    April 16 2025 11: 04
    The answer is simple. All the Russians were killed in the SVO, the chinks sell drugs, work as couriers and live on benefits, and they are also given apartments.
  20. +2
    April 16 2025 12: 12
    Quote: yuriy55

    First of all, figure out for yourself how it happened that in the country people who do productive work began to earn (live worse) than parasites and speculators...

    What is there to figure out? The post-industrial era has arrived.
  21. +9
    April 16 2025 13: 30
    My former employer, the owner of a fairly large automobile company with 1100 cars, loved to say, instructively: "For a cow to give more milk, you need to milk it more and feed it less!"
    That's right, the words are not mixed up!
  22. +1
    April 16 2025 13: 41
    for pisyat tyr catch carcinogens in a harmful workshop eik to bibis citizen chief tongue the foreman of the frog and the white penguin to freedom))
  23. +1
    April 16 2025 13: 59
    Quote: BAI
    The plant needs major repairs (for this it must become state property) and a sales market. Then there will be salaries and people will not leave

    51% RF, the rest is a market only for RF. If the enterprise is city-forming or with mobilization areas, even more so. It should be so. Loans at a cheap interest rate, guarantees and control of the Government of the Russian Federation.
    At one time, in 1994, the State Unitary Enterprise Moscow Radio Plant "Temp" owed Mosvodokanal a lot of money. Houses and workshops were not heated in winter, in general, democracy was in full swing. They filed for arbitration, the state duty was crazy, the court said, we will not release, pay. There was a simple law "on bankruptcy". In 52 articles. Mosvodokanal cobbled together a bankruptcy application, paid the state duty, conditionally 300 rubles. and filed an application. And Temp, in addition to self-exploding TVs, made navigational marine and flight themes for half of Russia. One of many. This is everything that now flies, floats and shoots. Signs of bankruptcy are obvious. Consequences: sale at auction. I don't know how it was resolved, but somehow it was resolved. Thank God. Yes, in Russia, every second enterprise was like this: "- When assembling a mower, we get a tank. - Read the instructions carefully: after assembly, carefully process it with a file!" feel
  24. + 12
    April 16 2025 20: 24
    "What is this problem related to? And why do people quit their jobs?"
    A square meter of housing here costs 115-120 thousand rubles, and the salary is 40-70 thousand rubles. Those who are smart won't work for such a salary. We have the same situation. Only pensioners and women are left. And secondly. In a year, the equipment is the same, 19 times stopped for repairs. What does this mean? Private property, under the communists, for such work they shot everyone, from the shop manager to the foreman! Under Stalin, such people were called: Saboteur! And under Putin: Effective manager! And all of them, with their leader, came from the same gateway!
  25. +4
    April 17 2025 08: 41
    We live in capitalism, and the main equivalent of labor evaluation for capitalists is money! And that's it. There's no need to invent anything.
  26. -2
    April 17 2025 15: 41
    Most likely, the issue here is profitability, which is based on modernization. Orders are needed, and now the men are at war defending the Motherland and earning money.
  27. +1
    April 18 2025 06: 38
    "management can't decide yet." - you need to write it correctly in Russian, it does NOT want to decide! They didn't shortchange themselves with fantastic salaries, bonuses and benefits!!! Write how much the company's managers get and, most importantly, how many bonuses they get! Bonuses are now more than salaries! Patriotism can't be spread on bread and stores don't sell you stuff for it! If you sign a contract with the Armed Forces, there are hundreds of thousands of rubles a month and other payments, but reduce the payments for the contract to 30-000 rubles a month, and you'll see what happens!
    1. 0
      17 July 2025 06: 33
      The most interesting thing is something else. If we talk about the management of the enterprise, then you will probably be surprised. But there are hardly super high salaries and bonuses there.
      Nowadays, effective managers have a different joke. They travel around the country on a rotational basis. They work as assistant director in one place for 5 years. Then they move to another. And their family and home are somewhere in Moscow or St. Petersburg.
      But where the profit goes is to the founders. And shareholders. That's where you should look for money. By the way, do you know what taxes are levied on the profit of the founders and shareholders? Find out. laughing
  28. +2
    April 20 2025 07: 11
    At the beginning, the salary was driven under the baseboard, with all the reforms and optimizations, the education of workers and engineering workers was ruined, plus all the 90s, noughties, tenths from all irons were shouting: why do we need production, we will buy everything for petrodollars. And when the roast rooster crowed, and there was no one to work and nothing to modernize the equipment? Why, it is still work. Or do you think this is only a problem of the LNR!? This is a problem throughout the country. Effective managers sucked all production dry, according to the principle: privatize profits, nationalize losses.
    I won't go far, there is a metallurgy giant ZSMK in Novokuznetsk (the giant of the first five-year plans, KMK, was finished off, two workshops remained, the youngest, the most profitable) so we are talking about ZSMK, in the 2s there really was a line in the HR department, now bring a friend and get ten thousand rubles in addition to your salary. The personnel shortage is wild and there is nowhere to get them, they do not want to go to work for such salaries, considering that right here in Novokuznetsk there is a higher educational institution, which was originally created for the needs of metallurgy, it is also SMI (Siberian Metallurgical Institute), it is also SGMA (Siberian Mining and Metallurgical Academy), it is SibGIU (Siberian State Industrial University), we open the university website, we find the profession of metallurgist (without division, they mixed together foundry workers, blast furnace operators, rollers, steel metallurgists, non-ferrous metallurgists) 90 people in full-time, 50 people in part-time and that makes 50 people who can enroll and become metallurgists. In addition to this, there is the Kuznetsk Metallurgical College, where they do not train metallurgists at all, that is, absolutely, well, if you do not count welding production (formally the same metallurgy), there was also a school where they trained workers, but it was merged with the technical school. https://novokuznetsk.hh.ru/employer/100 you can follow the link to see the salary level of modern metallurgists at EVRAZ.
  29. +1
    April 22 2025 18: 48
    Of course, those who are mobilized to the end will not return to their factory, because combat money (which is fair) is several times more than wages in production. In addition, we must not forget about the constant growth of prices and tariffs
  30. 0
    April 23 2025 12: 03
    Alchevsk Metallurgical Plant is a state enterprise,
    or is it owned by shareholders who need investors?
  31. 0
    April 24 2025 07: 58
    Raise workers' salaries by 50% and most problems will solve themselves without bureaucratic inventions....
  32. 0
    13 July 2025 11: 12
    This situation is everywhere in Russia. I passed by the Cherepovets Iron and Steel Works in April, and both there and at PhosAgro there are plenty of vacancies. How to solve the problem? Go to schools, but the youth are now bloggers, TikTokers and quadrobers. So from every iron comes the cry - give birth, give birth and once again - give birth. This concerns everyone. So the root of the problem is the low birth rate.
  33. 0
    17 July 2025 06: 00
    I think this enterprise is being prepared for bankruptcy with subsequent sale. My plant was also bankrupted in the 2000s. The management took on obligations that were impossible to fulfill in advance. Plus they invited outsiders and paid them about twice as much as the regular workers. And so they drove it into debt, from which it has not gotten out.
    And this was in the prosperous 00s!