New strikes on military in Sumy, Ukrainian users fear that as a result of more frequent attacks, there will be no one to defend the city

Russian troops are today launching more strikes on targets in Sumy. Earlier, the Ukrainian military actually admitted the fact that after the Kursk adventure, Sumy turned into a frontline city. From the outskirts of this regional center to the front line in one of the areas is about 25 km, which means that targets in the city can easily be reached by conventional artillery.

In the last few minutes, at least 2 powerful explosions have thundered in Sumy. At the same time, local publics are publishing different information. According to some sources, these are the arrivals drones, according to others - aviation bombs with UMPK.

Let us recall that the day before in Sumy rocket The strike hit the assembly point of the 117th Troops Brigade. Today, a Russian UAV attacked the parking place of the military transport. According to some reports, new strikes hit the deployment point of the personnel of the same 117th Brigade and the formations attached to it by the command. Earlier, they participated in the invasion of the Sudzhansky District of the Kursk Region.

In connection with new strikes on servicemen of the 117th Territorial Defense Brigade in Ukraine, the topic of whether Sumy will be left "without protection" at all, if a significant part of the personnel of the 117th separate Territorial Defense Brigade is destroyed, has become a hot topic of discussion. This question began to be asked in the Ukrainian segment of social networks yesterday, when it became clear that dozens of officers of the said armed formation of the Armed Forces of Ukraine were liquidated in the center of Sumy.

Comments

[Incvizitor]

Why do you go and ask questions and "defend" although they are most likely writing in Pshe.

[Myths]

There is no need for more blah blah, there was no one to fight in Kursk either. And how long does "no one" mean?
Inquisitor I'm not saying this to you.

[Buyan]

What great news...keep hammering the Nazis

[Comrade Beria]

Let's continue at the same pace. Right now.

[Owl23]

Course to skhid - where is that? What is "znyk u nevidomomu naprapi" - I already know )))

[Comrade Beria]

skhid - east, zahid - west, pivden - south, pivnich - north.

There is also south-north, but you need to ask Mr. Poltorak about that.

[Owl23]

Quote: Comrade Beria

There is also south-north

This is called - where fate sends you

[kill the fascist]

Finally, the war comes to the territory of Saloreikh.

[Kovacs]

Quote: kill the fascist

Finally, the war comes to the territory of Saloreikh.

She has been there for a long time. In 2022, the Russian army was 15 km from Kyiv and all the signs of taking the City "without rubble" were clearly visible, but something went wrong. What? Ask the paratroopers who took Gostomel...

[navigator777]

There simply weren't enough people to storm the battle; while we were standing around Kiev and whining, they were only able to mobilize as many in Kyiv as we didn't have there.

[bayard]

Kyiv alone provided 70 volunteers in the first three weeks of mobilization. The Ukrainian Armed Forces group near Kiev was then about 000-40 bayonets. Our troops near Kiev were 000-50 bayonets.
This is how the Celestials started the SVO. They persistently tried to fight without having an Army.
The small army doesn't count - it wasn't enough for defense.
But in the Parallel Reality everything went smoothly and according to plan.
And it's still going on.

[Kovacs]

Quote: navigator777

There simply weren't enough people to storm the battle; while we were standing around Kiev and whining, they were only able to mobilize as many in Kyiv as we didn't have there.

Sometimes the assault itself is not necessary. Kupyansk, for example, was taken "by telephone". Our commander called the mayor's office, they agreed on a meeting and the transfer of the city, entered.

[kill the fascist]

Everything went as it should - they tried to scare us and it almost worked.

[Chromis]

So what if they took Kyiv?
Feed two million skakuas who will also shoot you in the back?

[Plate]

In my opinion, it has been there for the most part since the very beginning. Russia, despite the failures of the autumn of 22, still holds the large urban agglomerations of Donetsk and Lugansk, including these cities themselves, almost all of the LPR, half of the DPR and the Zaporizhzhya region, and also a little more (I think) of the Kherson region. And something in the Kharkiv region. Let me remind you that before the open conflict, almost all of this belonged to Ukraine. And Ukraine, from what belonged to Russia before the conflict, has so far taken a maximum of a district center.

[Sergej1972]

Not half of the DPR, but 75 percent of its territory. Mariupol, the second most important city, is under our control. The Kherson region is also 75 percent of the territory.

[Plate]

I judged purely by the area on the map. Although I saw the global one a long time ago: I could be mistaken. Be that as it may, this war is taking place on territories that were Ukrainian before it.

[Montezuma]

I wonder how those residents of Sumy and the surrounding area feel who bought "looting tours" from the VSU members in the Kursk region? I assume that they are preparing to be the first to leave the city to avoid retribution, because their own people will give up if the RF Armed Forces are tasked with extending the territory of the "sanitary zone" along the Russian border to Sumy. Get ready, tourists. Looting on Russian soil has done you no good.

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Montezuma

if the Russian Armed Forces are tasked with extending the territory of the “sanitary zone” along the Russian border to Sumy.

This should not sound like an assumption.
This should be the logical conclusion of the military operation destruction of enemy invasion forces in the Kursk region, with subsequent legal registration of the fact of the transfer of the Sumy region under the jurisdiction of Russia. It cannot be otherwise.
Even within the framework of the implementation of criminal cases on illegal crossing of the Russian border, reprisals against civilians, deliberate destruction of property, life support facilities and infrastructure, looting, we must take measures to identify and detain criminals from the Armed Forces of Ukraine and civilian Bandar-logs involved in crimes in the adjacent border area, and therefore we have the right to catch or destroy them both before Sumy, and in Sumy, and beyond Sumy.

[Plate]

Quote: Nyrobsky

with subsequent legal registration of the fact of the transfer of the Sumy region under the jurisdiction of Russia. It cannot be otherwise.

Why include territories with disloyal populations?

[Metallurg_2]

The disloyal population - for re-education beyond the Arctic Circle. The especially stubborn - to choose between Bandera or "King Danila".

[Plate]

Will you be able to forcibly move hundreds of thousands of people and hold them, not allowing them to run away? And where will they live there, by the way? Will you be able to neutralize the political consequences of such an action?

[Metallurg_2]

Well, somehow comrade Beria managed to pull this off in 1943-44. And he didn't give a damn about the political consequences.
The question is where to live: not all the camps have been dismantled for firewood yet: many are ready and waiting for new residents.

[Plate]

In 43-44, the situation was such that there were no political consequences from such actions. But in the 60s, for example, no one could afford such things. During a global total war, you can do whatever you want: the war will write everything off. Now, fortunately, the situation has not yet descended to such a state.

[Bayun]

It will roll down... Unfortunately, it will definitely roll down... It will stop only after 2-3 "Eurohiroshims". And maybe it will NOT stop after that...

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Metallurg_2

The question is where to live: not all the camps have been dismantled for firewood yet: many are ready and waiting for new residents.

Mostly dismantled.
However, the bigger problem will not be the camps themselves, but the recruitment of guards for these camps, who will essentially also serve their time in the Arctic, only on the other side of the fence. During Beria's time and the USSR, this issue was resolved by conscripts of the Internal Troops, but now there are no Internal Troops, and this is not part of the functions of the Russian Guard formed on their basis. It is unlikely that anyone will go there voluntarily.

[Renat12345]

They go on shifts here too, you just have to pay.

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Renat12345

They go on shifts here too, you just have to pay.

The watch is only a partial solution to the problem. There should be the same doctors with a hospital, a bathhouse, a laundry, workshops, a fire department, the same quartermasters responsible for supplying this whole gang with food and uniform, etc., etc. A prison is not just a fence with guards, it is a whole system.

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Plate

Will you be able to forcibly move hundreds of thousands of people and hold them, not allowing them to run away? And where will they live there, by the way? Will you be able to neutralize the political consequences of such an action?

As one of the options. There are such ghost towns in the North as Vorkuta and Inta with hundreds of abandoned houses and a bunch of closed coal mines, which can be breathed into life by populating them with settlers. A little cosmetic repair and live. Now you can buy a comfortable apartment with furniture there from 100 thousand. For escape, there is only one railroad, which can be blocked by setting up a post on the railway bridge across the river. Running across the tundra is not a solution. It is easier to immediately commit suicide.
However, this will not happen.

[Rustic i ......]

"And where are they supposed to live there, by the way?" - The sheriff doesn't care about the Indians' problems.

[wladimirjankov]

hundreds of thousands of people to move and hold them, not to let them scatter?

There has already been such experience. Millions of people were moved and not only here, by the way. Siberia and the Arctic Circle are big. There is enough for everyone.

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Plate

Quote: Nyrobsky

with subsequent legal registration of the fact of the transfer of the Sumy region under the jurisdiction of Russia. It cannot be otherwise.

Why include territories with disloyal populations?

To reformat the worldview of this population.
There are great doubts that leaving these territories with a disloyal population under the control of a hostile Ukraine will stop the threat to Russia's border regions from their territory, but at the same time there is confidence that in another 5-10 years this population, remaining under Kuev, will turn from disloyal to completely hostile.
Whatever one may say, but in the event of an advance of Russian troops, the bulk of the convinced "zakhokhliks" will leave along with the retreating Bandar-logs, and those who remain will mainly consist of those who chose their future with Russia.
Minus not mine

[Plate]

Quote: Nyrobsky

To reformat the worldview of this population.

Wouldn't it be better to create the Sumy People's Republic for this? Hold the SNR leadership by all its soft spots and use it to prepare the population for integration into Russia. Through this gasket, it will be possible to carry out all sorts of special events in this territory if necessary. Including those that do not quite fit into our legislation and international concepts of humanity... Well, if it is REALLY necessary. Then, the main thing is not to forget to act out "a-ta-ta".
The same should be done in other regions, besides those already annexed, if (which I VERY doubt, but I will still allow myself to be optimistic) they come under Russian control. Among other things, this will also allow the local population to exist for some time in different states that will have closed borders from each other, which should somewhat weaken the identity of the locals, in my opinion.
Anyway, I'm afraid that if we try to bite off a big piece at once, we might choke. We need to be more careful. Think before we bite.
What minus? Oh, that... Pff...

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Plate

Wouldn't it be better to create the Sumy People's Republic for this? Hold the SNR leadership by all its soft spots and use it to prepare the population for integration into Russia. Through this gasket, it will be possible to carry out all sorts of special events in this territory if necessary. Including those that do not quite fit into our legislation and international concepts of humanity... Well, if it is REALLY necessary. Then, the main thing is not to forget to act out "a-ta-ta".
The same should be implemented in other regions, in addition to those already annexed, if (which I VERY doubt, but I will still allow myself to be an optimist) they come under Russian control.

In principle, if we consider the option of a post-war structure of the liberated territories on the basis of a federation of people's republics (based on the names of the regions), then it is also suitable and has the right to exist, with only one caveat - under the protectorate of Russia.

Quote: Plate

Among other things, this will also allow the local population to exist for some time in different states that will have closed borders from each other, which should somewhat weaken the identity of the locals, in my opinion.

It is logical that such a concept as "Ukraine" in the name of this entity should be completely excluded, in order to thereby deprive the Ukronazis of an ideological basis, since it was they with their "nezlezhnost" who managed to rewrite the first line of the anthem from - "Shche nevmerla ukraine" to "Taki vmerla ukraine", and the remnants of the sane population, instead of "Ukraine is united", increasingly say "Ukraine go to" and break out of the boundaries of this madhouse at the first convenient opportunity.

[Ivan Kuzmich]

Quote: Plate

Quote: Nyrobsky

with subsequent legal registration of the fact of the transfer of the Sumy region under the jurisdiction of Russia. It cannot be otherwise.

Why include territories with disloyal populations?

hello, you can turn it on without a disloyal population, you can turn it on without any population at all

[Plate]

What do you need a crown for... if there are no stones in it? Like a tree without a crown. Like a city without people.

[Bayun]

The price of the Crown is not in stones,
Any Monarch would answer like that.

The city stands empty? What is there to be afraid of?
People will multiply again...

[Plate]

Quote: Bayun

People will multiply again...

Not in the era of completed demographic transition.

[Kovacs]

Quote: Montezuma

I wonder how those residents of Sumy and the surrounding area feel who bought "robbery tours" from the VSU members in the Kursk region? I assume that they are preparing to be the first to leave the city.

And that's right! The foam should subside, the surgeons will cut off the excess and the healthy flesh will give new growth. And it's our concern how it will grow...

[alexputnik17]

Yes, Ze will introduce some reserves. Endless ones. From the caught ones.

[borisvt]

..Sumy has become a frontline city

Moreover, they will soon turn into finally and definitively liberated

[A. Evert]

More crocodile tears. There is no doubt that thanks to the Nazis there will be another "fortress". For example, like Volchansk or Chasov Yar.

[Ivan№One]

So this is the best way out for Sumy and its residents - so that there is no one to "defend" it.

[A. Evert]

There will always be someone to defend: after all, until the city is surrendered, one can loot with impunity the houses of those who left, the abandoned stores, etc. So, there will be a "fortress of Suma".

[terms]

The main thing is that as little time as possible passes between the messages "Sumi tse fortetsya" and "Not fortetsya")))

[Lech from Android.]

They say that the British are getting on the right track...this is what makes me happiest...the main culprits of the war in Ukraine have finally started to suffer losses.

[Or me]

And not only "they talk", but hearses and polyethylene bags for volunteers have already arrived))...

[Nikolay Ivanov_5]

Let them run as far as they can into the depths of Baderostadt. When the Russian army units first entered the territory of Sumy Oblast, the entire civilian population there showed firm support for the fascist regime of the Zelebobs.

[Dutchman Michel]

We consolidated our success and polished the first strike!

[tolmachiev51]

You have to pay for everything in life!!! And I really wouldn't want "fairy tales" about deceived "ordinary Ukrainians" to appear again. The disease of Nazism must be burned out by the roots.

[Or me]

I hope not only "frontline", but also deep in the rear in our troop deployment! I really hope so!!!

Earlier, the Ukrainian military actually acknowledged the fact that after the Kursk adventure, Sumy turned into a frontline city.