"Diesel Fuel Thickens": T-90 Tanks Adapted for Operation in Indian Highlands

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"Diesel Fuel Thickens": T-90 Tanks Adapted for Operation in Indian Highlands

The T-90 and T-72 MBTs, the backbone of the Indian Army's armoured forces, face significant challenges operating in the conditions of eastern Ladakh, where winter temperatures can drop to -40°C.

With such values, the engines tanks start with difficulty because diesel fuel thickens and critical systems require preheating to operate smoothly

- says the IDRW publication.



As indicated, the T-90 pre-heaters developed by DND Enterprises solve this problem by adapting the tanks to work in the harshest conditions of high altitude. The company recently handed over their first batch to the army.

It is noted that previously, preheating systems were imported from Russia, despite the fact that the tanks themselves are manufactured at the local HVF plant in Avadi. The development of our own version has been underway since 2021. The prototypes have successfully completed 300 hours of operation in extreme conditions.

The heaters passed the tests with flying colors, proving their reliability and durability.

- explained in the publication.

Following clashes with Chinese troops in 2020 in the disputed territory of Ladakh, India has been beefing up its military presence in the region, claiming in November 2022 that it had created the infrastructure to deploy 450 tanks and over 22 additional troops.

Hundreds of T-90 and T-72 tanks form the backbone of India's armoured forces in this high-altitude theatre of operations, where mobility and operational readiness are paramount.

- says the publication.
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  1. -2
    April 13 2025 13: 12

    The T-90 and T-72 MBTs, the backbone of the Indian Army's armoured forces, face significant challenges operating in the conditions of eastern Ladakh, where winter temperatures can drop to -40°C.

    Oh, come on! Seriously? That can't be! Since when did India get our tanks? Everything was fine until now and then - frost, suddenly...request
    1. KCA
      +6
      April 13 2025 13: 36
      So they went to the mountains, for -40 let them take the T-80 with a gas turbine engine
      1. +18
        April 13 2025 13: 46
        Isn't it easier to change the fuel? In Russian Railways, all diesel locomotives run on "Arktika" diesel fuel in winter, and not a single one has stopped even at minus 60.
        1. KCA
          +11
          April 13 2025 13: 53
          Where else can they get winter diesel fuel except Russia? The US prohibits buying oil products from Russia, and India waves its ass with this and that, they don't want to quarrel with the US, but they don't want to quarrel with us either
          1. +1
            April 13 2025 14: 00
            Not long ago, the Finns arrested an oil tanker ... the owner of the vessel is Saudi Arabia, but it was transferred to the management of an Indian company. The tanker was heading from Ust-Luga in the Leningrad region. It is clear that it was heading to India. Tell me, how do you suppose, for how long decades, one tanker carrying the Russian "Arktika" would be enough for the entire Indian armored forces?
            1. KCA
              +3
              April 13 2025 14: 12
              What are you talking about, where are the guarantees that the tanker will reach India? The option is via the NSR, but you also need to get from Ust-Luga or Novorossiysk to the NSR, while I was writing I looked, there are 3 oil loading ports in the Far East, and there are their own to India, China and the DPRK
              1. +7
                April 13 2025 14: 31
                Quote: KCA
                What are we talking about? Where are the guarantees that the tanker will reach India?


                It will get there. They arrested one from Ust-Luga, one in how many years? And two of them left Ust-Luga for India that day. Another one from Vysotsk and Primorsk.... also to India.
                So, out of two, one would have made it anyway.
                And all their problems with minus 40 are information for the mentally retarded.
            2. +1
              April 13 2025 20: 46
              Quote from kromer
              Not long ago, the Finns arrested an oil tanker... the owner of the vessel is Saudi Arabia, but it was transferred to the management of an Indian company. The tanker was going from Ust-Luga in the Leningrad region. It is clear that it was going to India.

              Not "from", but "in". And he walked away empty. For beer, probably, but how can you prove it now?
              1. 0
                April 13 2025 20: 52
                Quote: Vasyan1971
                Not "from", but "in". And he walked away empty. For beer, probably, but how can you prove it now?

                No, in St. Petersburg on Nevsky near the October Railway, they sell matryoshka dolls and other Russian wonders. I was driving to get them, filled to the brim with oil, and I also got the wrong way around - St. Petersburg is on the other side.
              2. +1
                April 13 2025 20: 59
                But I appreciated your humor. Bravo.
            3. 0
              April 14 2025 06: 00
              how many decades


              not at all. Diesel, like any other fuel, has a rather limited shelf life, after which it will turn into a shit-slurry that you can't pour into any tank. This period is about a year.

              If you skillfully handle it and store it correctly and carefully in the proper conditions, then it may last longer - three or four years, but certainly not decades.

              and "proper conditions" is not about Indians
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              2. -1
                April 15 2025 08: 25
                What nonsense you just said. Fuel can be stored safely for quite a long time.
                As for diesel, I haven't personally tried it, but I personally used 12-year-old gasoline. VAZ 2106. The car worked without problems. And we poured it into a dry tank. No need to talk about dilution.
          2. +2
            April 13 2025 19: 39
            It turns out that in India, in the highlands, only yaks are used to transport goods?
            In addition to Russian diesel heaters, they would also blame the low level of oxygen in the air!
          3. -3
            April 13 2025 22: 18
            Where else can they get winter diesel fuel except Russia?

            Actually, winter diesel fuel is regular quality diesel fuel with additives. Well, India has quite a few oil refineries. So, they have no problems here. The army just needs to order it.
            1. KCA
              0
              April 13 2025 22: 32
              What do additives have to do with oil refineries? And I won't say that in my time there could be high-quality diesel fuel, but where did the Indians get additives for -40? Back then it was simple, diesel fuel, and red diesel fuel, and who cares what and how, well, as an option, they buy regular diesel fuel, we have additives, you don't need to drive them in tankers and alga
            2. +1
              April 14 2025 00: 10
              .
              In fact, winter diesel fuel is regular high-quality diesel fuel with additives.
              Actually, winter diesel fuel is regular diesel fuel with a high degree of purification from oil paraffins. In winter, the paraffin in diesel fuel thickens, first it floats in the diesel fuel in flakes and then the diesel fuel turns into paraffin porridge. I read about polar explorers whose diesel fuel at minus 50 solidifies to the consistency of laundry soap. The polar explorer on duty climbed into a tank with diesel fuel and chopped up the solidified diesel fuel with an axe, and then the pieces were brought into a warm room where it turned into liquid.
              1. 0
                April 14 2025 10: 38
                In fact, winter diesel fuel is regular diesel fuel with a high degree of purification from oil paraffins.

                Yes, that's the right answer. In emergency cases, when the frosts weren't too severe, sometimes very warm kerosene was added to the tank when starting the engine.
        2. +2
          April 13 2025 15: 29
          Wouldn't it be easier to change the fuel?

          I read the comments, everyone writes about winter grades of diesel fuel, but everyone somehow forgot that the heater makes starting the engine easier and extends its service life.
          I'm not familiar with heaters on tanks, but trucks have heaters that not only heat the engine, but also the transmission and the cabin at the same time.
          1. +1
            April 13 2025 15: 39
            Quote: Popandos
            Wouldn't it be easier to change the fuel?

            I read the comments, everyone writes about winter grades of diesel fuel, but everyone somehow forgot that the heater makes starting the engine easier and extends its service life.
            I'm not familiar with heaters on tanks, but trucks have heaters that not only heat the engine, but also the transmission and the cabin at the same time.

            And do they heat the entire section of the fuel line from the tank to the injector? I also install a heater in the tank, but how do I install it on the fuel lines? All diesel cars suffer in winter from the fact that the diesel in the fuel line has become paraffinized. The only way out is to pour in "Arktika", nothing smarter has been invented yet.
            1. +3
              April 13 2025 15: 43
              I also install a heater in the tank, but how do I install it on the fuel lines? All diesel cars suffer in winter from the fact that the diesel in the fuel line has become paraffinized.
              Plumbing thermal insulation is simply put on the fuel lines.
              Paraffins clog not the tubes but the filters.
              1. +1
                April 13 2025 15: 50
                Thermal insulation will help while driving. And will the car stand overnight at a specific minus?
                Diesel fuel waxes and clogs everything, no matter where it is. I've had a lot of diesel cars, I know what I'm talking about.
                And it was necessary to heat the pipes from the tank to the engine with a blowtorch more than a hundred times.
                1. -1
                  April 13 2025 22: 57
                  Dear Valery, I don’t want to enter into polemics with you, because judging by your stories, you don’t really understand the physics of the process.
                  Best regards, hi
                  Believe me, I am a marine mechanic by education, I lived in the Far East for 40 years, and I currently work in long-distance shipping. I know from personal experience what bad fuel is in the cold and how to start an engine at -40.
                  1. 0
                    April 13 2025 23: 08
                    Dear Tim. What does bad fuel have to do with it? Have you read the article? We are talking about Morse code at minus forty. You can't buy "Arktika" diesel fuel at any gas station, and ships don't use it. It can only be "bought" at the locomotive depot of Russian Railways or its "daughters".
                    1. 0
                      April 13 2025 23: 39
                      If there's one thing you can't buy, it's "Arktika" diesel fuel at any gas station, and ships don't use it. It can only be "bought" at the locomotive depot of Russian Railways or its "daughters".
                      Valery, in Komsomolsk-on-Amur, where I lived for 40 years, from December to January ALL gas stations sell only DT-A, because everything else turns into jelly.
                      I don't know what fuel Russian Railways uses now, but from 95 to 02, when I worked on the cast-iron plant, they bought what was cheaper. We used diesel fuel from diesel locomotives, it became cloudy and thick at -20. On the motor locomotives from which diesel fuel was drained, there was a supply tank with heating, and all the motor locomotives were parked in warm boxes, when they went out to work they didn't turn off the engine, it rattled all day.
                      On ships it's even cooler, the main ones only start up, shut down and go through difficult sections for navigation on diesel fuel, and not always, the rest of the time the main ones work on motor fuel after preliminary preparation. There are entire systems for preparing fuel before feeding it to the high-pressure fuel pump.
                      1. 0
                        April 13 2025 23: 55
                        Quote: Popandos
                        I don't know what fuel Russian Railways uses now, but from 95 to 02, when I worked on the cast-iron plant, they bought whatever was cheaper. We used diesel fuel from diesel locomotives, it became cloudy and thick at -20.


                        Well, you should ask those who sold you this fuel. Traction safety inspectors strictly monitor the fuel for diesel locomotives. And God forbid if they find a diesel locomotive that was not filled up for the season. So many people are politicking, where the head of the TC and the entire TC management are a trifle compared to the NOD with all the NOD deputies, the RBshniki of the road level and at least the NZT with all the NT.
                      2. 0
                        April 14 2025 00: 07
                        from those who sold you this fuel
                        I didn't buy it, I took as much as I needed.
                        There are so many people who are political, where the head of the TC and the entire leadership of the TC are a trifle compared to the NOD that flew with all the NOD deputies, the RBshniks of the road level
                        From 2000 to 2002 I worked in the URB NOD4 Far Eastern Railway, but I was in the signaling department, don't exaggerate, not a single TC suffered, because they screw you over for defects in work, and not for bad fuel, there were no downtimes due to bad fuel in my presence, I know for sure because I worked as an analyst in the department, and was aware of all the affairs in all areas.
                      3. 0
                        April 14 2025 00: 29
                        Quote: Popandos
                        from those who sold you this fuel
                        I didn't buy it, I took as much as I needed.
                        There are so many people who are political, where the head of the TC and the entire leadership of the TC are a trifle compared to the NOD that flew with all the NOD deputies, the RBshniks of the road level
                        From 2000 to 2002 I worked in the URB NOD4 Far Eastern Railway, but I was in the signaling department, don't exaggerate, not a single TC suffered, because they screw you over for defects in work, and not for bad fuel, there were no downtimes due to bad fuel in my presence, I know for sure because I worked as an analyst in the department, and was aware of all the affairs in all areas.


                        Now this is interesting. Starting with the fact that there have never been any analysts in the URB NOD, there were and still are analysts in the RB N, and ending with the fact that the RBS and RBT are different auditors who do not contact each other at all, and often even conflict, to the point of fistfights.
                        2000-2002? There was no RB SCB. At that time, the SH was not yet divided into SH and RCS, there were RBS.
                      4. 0
                        April 14 2025 00: 55
                        Starting with the fact that there have never been any analysts in the URB NOD,
                        The position was called URBA.
                        RBS and RBT are different auditors who do not communicate with each other at all, and often even conflict with each other, even to the point of fighting.
                        Our people lived in harmony, sat at neighboring tables, and even when the shooters were cutting, they got by with cultural expressions.
                        There was no RB SCB.
                        no, I meant that I came to the URB from the SC SCB.
                      5. 0
                        April 14 2025 01: 02
                        Quote: Popandos
                        ours lived in harmony, sat at neighboring tables, even when the shooters were cutting made do with cultural expressions.


                        I worked on the railroad for 12 years, and the minimum was shoulder straps, two stripes, two stars. I know how they got by with polite expressions. On the railroad, they don't swear at all, they speak it there.
                      6. 0
                        April 15 2025 13: 43
                        Quote: Popandos
                        I didn't buy it, I took as much as I needed.


                        How many times have I heard this phrase from people who believe that they have never stolen in their lives. They did not steal, they simply took as much as they needed, naturally for free. This is not stealing, right? And I heard these phrases not from cleaners, but from directors of enterprises.
            2. 0
              April 13 2025 17: 28
              Quote from kromer
              nothing smarter has been invented yet

              Steam boiler. In miniature. Why not?!
          2. 0
            April 13 2025 15: 41
            If it's -40 outside, you'll have to leave the engine running until it gets warmer, or warm it up anyway, otherwise you won't be able to start it.
          3. 0
            April 13 2025 19: 40
            How much oxygen is in the air in those mountains?
            Or do all engines now operate without oxygen?
      2. 0
        April 13 2025 14: 09
        Quote: KCA
        So they went to the mountains, for -40 let them take the T-80 with a gas turbine engine

        GTEs are good until the cost comes into play. In the early 80s, a GTE cost 5 times more than a regular diesel. And field repairs of a diesel and a GTE are like night and day. The same goes for fuel. When all your armored personnel carriers and other vehicles run on diesel, then having to set up a warehouse and deliver kerosene greatly complicates logistics and supplies.
        1. +2
          April 13 2025 14: 25
          other transport runs on diesel fuel, then you also have to set up a warehouse and deliver kerosene, which greatly complicates logistics and provision.

          The main fuel for the GTD-1250 is diesel.
          The advantage is that it does not require warming up at low temperatures, which is up to half an hour. The GTE start cycle does not depend on temperature and is about 50 s.
          1. 0
            April 13 2025 14: 31
            If the diesel fuel is frozen, you will not be able to start the gas turbine engine, and the filters/nozzles will also become clogged with paraffin and that’s it.
            A serviceable diesel engine starts easily at temperatures down to -30. After that, of course, it's a bit more difficult.
            1. 0
              April 13 2025 19: 40
              A serviceable diesel engine starts freely at temperatures down to -30.

              That's why they started installing auxiliary engines and power units, so that it would be easier to start a small one.
              We are talking about those temperatures when the diesel engine requires heating, and measures against paraffin precipitation have been taken.
              There is no sliding friction in a gas turbine engine (or rather, only in graphite seals).
          2. -1
            April 13 2025 21: 58
            the main fuel for the GTD1250 is kerosene, and diesel is a reserve. I agree that temperature does not matter for starting the GTD, but 50 seconds is not enough to start the movement, the turbocharger needs to reach operating speed in a different time - I don't remember exactly, but not 50 seconds, but much more
            1. 0
              April 13 2025 23: 23
              The main fuel for the GTD1250 is kerosene, and diesel is the reserve fuel

              No. Kerosene was the main fuel for the GTD-1000T and GTD-1000TF.
              And for GTD-1250 (edition 29) diesel was recorded as the main one. What kind of magic was done there, I don’t know.
              but not 50 seconds, but much more

              The start cycle is no more than 55 sec, after that revving the engine, maybe another couple of seconds, and off we go.
              1. 0
                April 14 2025 06: 45
                where did they record it and who? these engines are classified as multi-fuel. the main fuel is kerosene, everything else is a reserve, reducing their service life. this applies to both 1000 and 1250.
                I won't argue - you know better, most likely they taught us the wrong thing at VABTV, but my experience of operating the T80BV and T80U did not include the use of any other fuel except kerosene.
                hi
                1. 0
                  April 14 2025 23: 14
                  Where was it recorded and by whom?

                  I saw it in the technical description. Apparently, the developer (Klimov Design Bureau).
      3. -1
        April 13 2025 20: 49
        Quote: KCA
        So we climbed the mountains

        It was somewhere that the Indians chose the T-90 because they showed themselves excellently in the mountains. And now suddenly it turned out about -40°C... Sadness...
        1. KCA
          -1
          April 13 2025 20: 57
          How do 99% of Indians know that there are mountains and -40, if they live all year round at +40, before their officers were trained in the USSR, then they could feel -55, and now they only dance at parades
          1. 0
            April 14 2025 14: 18
            Quote: KCA
            How do 99% of Indians know that there are mountains and -40, if they live all year round at +40, before their officers were trained in the USSR, then they could feel -55, and now they only dance at parades


            Stop drinking in the evenings and talking nonsense.
            The Himalayas alone, with a level of over 3 kilometers, occupy 850 thousand square kilometers of India's area...
    2. 0
      April 13 2025 13: 53
      Not serious, of course. lol
      A journalist writes for the sake of writing.
      And about diesel fuel Z or A, engineers and specialists know both in India and everywhere. And about pre-start heaters, the device of which does not constitute some kind of know-how.
      It is probably much easier to buy a thousand sets of heaters in the Russian Federation than to organize their production in India. Although, this is the business of the Indians.
      1. +3
        April 13 2025 14: 30
        It's easier to buy a thousand sets of heaters in the Russian Federation

        On diesel tanks, the heater is standard and is located on the right rear side of the fighting compartment.
        Here, apparently, the Indians made their own with increased power. We also had such work done until 1991.
        1. 0
          April 15 2025 08: 50
          Here is the first sensible comment. So the article is about how INDIA HAS ESTABLISHED THE PRODUCTION OF ITS OWN HEATERS. Tanks are produced in India. And the heaters were from Russia. And now they have their own.
          But the commentators didn’t figure it out and wrote
          The Chukchi is not a reader. The Chukchi is a writer.
  2. +4
    April 13 2025 13: 13
    because diesel fuel thickens
    They have never heard of "Arktika"... winked
    1. +2
      April 13 2025 13: 30
      In Antarctica the frosts reach minus 70, and even then you have to work. And the highlands there, there is little oxygen. They should buy such fuel in Russia and the problem will disappear by itself.
      1. 0
        April 13 2025 14: 12
        Quote: Blacksmith 55
        They should buy such fuel in Russia and the problem would disappear on its own.

        Alas, even arctic fuel freezes without heating. And the article says that the Indians stopped buying heaters in the Russian Federation and started producing them themselves. Because initially tanks were apparently not equipped with such heaters, like it was always warm outside.
        1. KCA
          0
          April 13 2025 14: 31
          The delivery set is agreed with the buyer, it's like grabbing a pack of dumplings in a supermarket and going to the checkout, the approval of contracts takes years, if there are no pre-launch ones, it means the Indians themselves refused, and now they're tearing their hair out
          1. +1
            April 13 2025 14: 32
            Quote: KCA
            if there are no pre-launch documents, it means the Indians themselves refused, and now they are tearing their hair out
            So they don’t tear them apart, but they themselves equipped the tanks that are in the mountains with heaters like these.
          2. 0
            April 13 2025 19: 53
            If there are no pre-launch documents, then the Indians themselves refused

            Yes, they probably could have refused. And the intake air heating too.
            An air conditioner could have been installed in place of the heater.
        2. 0
          April 13 2025 14: 32
          In severe frosts (Orenburg region, sometimes -40), drivers added kerosene to diesel fuel. That is if there was no winter diesel fuel. In the rear axle and gearbox in late autumn, before the frosts, they added a hundred grams, no, not what they thought, gasoline. The car moved off more easily. After all, even if you started the engine and released the clutch pedal, the engine would stall.
          1. KCA
            0
            April 13 2025 19: 58
            Even at -40, at -20, on the advice of friends, I poured a hundred grams of alcohol into the gas tank, it seemed to bind the water remaining in the tank, gasoline in the 90s was so-so, it is clear that water is below, alcohol is above, but on our roads you get a cocktail
            1. 0
              April 14 2025 14: 20
              Quote: KCA
              Even at -40, at -20, on the advice of friends, I poured a hundred grams of alcohol into the gas tank, it seemed to bind the water remaining in the tank, gasoline in the 90s was so-so, it is clear that water is below, alcohol is above, but on our roads you get a cocktail


              alcohol will not bind anything in such quantities. no water. at minus 20 the water in the tank has long been in the state of ice. It is warmed up by the return of gasoline later.

              Drivers theorists
          2. +1
            April 14 2025 00: 23
            In severe frosts (Orenburg region, sometimes -40), drivers added kerosene to diesel fuel.
            Kerosene can be poured into a diesel engine of the YaMZ 238 type with injectors and a high-pressure pump. But if you pour kerosene into a modern HDI diesel, aka Common Rail, the consequences will be dire.
            1. 0
              April 14 2025 08: 14
              I lived and worked in the Orenburg region back in the Soviet Union, and at that time only specialists knew about the engines you mention.
              1. 0
                April 14 2025 11: 24
                I lived and worked in the Orenburg region back in the Soviet Union.
                Then you write that it was during the USSR. But many perceive this information as relevant.
            2. -1
              April 14 2025 14: 28
              Quote: rotfuks
              In severe frosts (Orenburg region, sometimes -40), drivers added kerosene to diesel fuel.
              Kerosene can be poured into a diesel engine of the YaMZ 238 type with injectors and a high-pressure pump. But if you pour kerosene into a modern HDI diesel, aka Common Rail, the consequences will be dire.

              25-30% of modern diesel fuel at gas stations in the summer is heating oil + kerosene.
              Moreover, they can even take dark heavy heating fuel, light it, and then mix it with kerosene.
              And you won’t notice anything on your KR.
              1. 0
                April 14 2025 15: 17
                And you won’t notice anything on your KR.
                Once on a car forum there was a story about a guy who bought a French Citroen with a diesel engine and the engine had trouble starting in winter. And the armchair experts advised the guy to add kerosene to the diesel fuel. I don’t remember the details, but that diesel engine, having taken a sip of kerosene, stopped starting completely and the guy was faced with a major repair with replacement of injectors and a high-pressure pump.
              2. 0
                April 15 2025 07: 15
                Not stove fuel, but marine fuel, the so-called TNT (heavy petroleum fuel). Although in the areas of the Central Russian Upland, in the absence of steamships, stove fuel is also MB. But kerosene, and in such quantities, is a direct fast road to junk for common rail fuel pumps. And kerosene, aka Aircraft Fuel, is not a cheap pleasure to dilute.
          3. 0
            April 14 2025 14: 26
            Quote: smith 55
            In severe frosts (Orenburg region, sometimes -40), drivers added kerosene to diesel fuel. That is if there was no winter diesel fuel. In the rear axle and gearbox in late autumn, before the frosts, they added a hundred grams, no, not what they thought, gasoline. The car moved off more easily. After all, even if you started the engine and released the clutch pedal, the engine would stall.


            When using TSPK-15 transmission oil in gearboxes for cold winter, 10% of winter diesel fuel is added. This is what URALAZ requires. I used cars in Kovykta and Yamal this way.
  3. +6
    April 13 2025 13: 14
    The T-90 and T-72 MBTs, the backbone of the Indian Army's armoured forces, face significant challenges operating in eastern Ladakh, where winter temperatures can drop to -40°C.
    What's the problem? We buy diesel fuel of the "Arktika" type for this district, and the headache goes away. You can find out where to buy such fuel, inexpensively, at the Russian Embassy in India laughing laughing good
    1. +3
      April 13 2025 13: 16
      Well, apparently they don't want to buy special fuel. They want to make do with their own resources.
      1. -1
        April 13 2025 13: 22
        Quote: barclay
        Well, apparently they don't want to buy special fuel. They want to make do with their own resources.

        Well, if they don’t want bread and butter, let them gnaw on radish with hot pepper!
        1. -1
          April 13 2025 13: 25
          They probably don't have that many tanks there to buy special fuel. It's strange that our pre-launchers didn't satisfy them.
          1. +1
            April 13 2025 14: 14
            Quote: barclay
            It's strange that our pre-launchers didn't satisfy them.

            Most likely, they initially refused them altogether, since most of India is warm and no one thought about the mountains then. For example, they used to have many passenger cars without a heater at all.
          2. 0
            April 13 2025 16: 14
            Quote: barclay
            They probably don't have enough tanks there to buy special fuel.

            Especially considering that the Indian Armed Forces have a fleet of T-90s that is 35% larger than the Russian Armed Forces.
            Quote: barclay
            It's strange that our pre-launchers didn't satisfy them.
            What, does the pre-starter heat up the fuel in the tanks and maintain its physical condition for the entire period of operation until the fuel is used up?
            1. Alf
              -1
              April 13 2025 20: 39
              Quote: Fitter65
              What, does the pre-starter heat up the fuel in the tanks and maintain its physical condition for the entire period of operation until the fuel is used up?

              So for this you need not Acha-Acha-Acha, but read the instructions.
      2. -1
        April 13 2025 13: 52
        Quote: barclay
        Apparently they don’t want to buy special fuel.


        What special is it? Our diesel locomotives are fueled with "Arktika" in the heat of plus 30. In most locomotive depots there is simply no other type.
      3. Alf
        0
        April 13 2025 20: 38
        Quote: barclay
        They want to manage on their own.

        Their hands are not sharpened for that, an example is the creation of Arjun.
    2. 0
      April 13 2025 13: 24
      It is enough to buy the required amount of kerosene and mix it with summer oil in the proportion - Indians, use it!
      1. 0
        April 13 2025 13: 53
        It is enough to buy the required amount of kerosene and mix it with summer oil in the proportion - Indians, use it!

        With summer? And this will lower the freezing point to -40C⁰? ... I don't think so, maybe to -20C⁰... Isn't it easier to immediately fill up with aviation kerosene, since the engines are soft-fuel?
        1. 0
          April 13 2025 15: 54
          Quote: VyacheSeymour
          Wouldn't it be easier to just fill up with aviation kerosene, since the engines are low-fuel?

          Many, fuel. But, only, have you carefully read the instructions, what and how to do with the engine, before and after using this or that type of fuel? Moreover, after some types the engine is simply disposed of.
        2. 0
          April 13 2025 20: 37
          Nothing complicated - 2.5% kerosene to get arctic fuel with a cloud point of -30
      2. -1
        April 13 2025 14: 16
        Only it is necessary to mix while it is warm. And kerosene must be found somewhere. But starting a diesel engine in the mountains is very difficult by itself, the compression drops sharply.
        1. +3
          April 13 2025 15: 26
          compression drops sharply.
          belay fool
          Sometimes it's better to keep quiet, then you might be taken for smart
          1. -3
            April 13 2025 15: 52
            Quote: Popandos
            Sometimes it's better to keep quiet, then you might be taken for smart
            You should have kept quiet.
            Compression is the value of the maximum pressure in the cylinder created when the engine is cranked idle by the starter.
            In the mountains, with low atmospheric pressure, it is very difficult to increase the pressure in the cylinder (compression).
            1. 0
              April 13 2025 17: 34
              Quote from: topol717
              the value of the maximum pressure in the cylinder created when the engine is idling

              Always called compression pressure (Pc)
            2. +1
              April 13 2025 22: 47
              In the mountains, with low atmospheric pressure, it is very difficult to increase the pressure in the cylinder (compression).

              Keep quiet, poor thing, keep quiet, you are drowning yourself. There are many people with technical and specialized education on this site.
              1. -1
                April 13 2025 23: 13
                Quote: Popandos
                Be silent, unfortunate one, be silent, you are drowning yourself.

                Actually, I am happy. Well, people with technical education, especially those who understand that ignition in a diesel engine occurs from temperature will support me, or they will remain silent, since they understand that arguing is useless.
                1. 0
                  April 14 2025 11: 44
                  Quote from: topol717
                  ignition in diesel occurs from temperature

                  The end compression temperature depends on the start compression temperature and the compression ratio. The polytropic index is also there. It does not depend on the absolute pressure of the start and end of compression (this pressure depends on the rest). It's all complicated... Just kidding. In short, the fuel will ignite anyway if the start compression temperature is normal. hi
        2. +1
          April 13 2025 20: 10
          Quote from: topol717
          But starting a diesel engine in the mountains is very difficult, the compression itself drops sharply.


          Topol, compression depends on engine wear, piston rings, etc. (in short, mechanics). And what kind of fuel is there and is there oxygen at all, that's another topic. It has nothing to do with compression.
          1. -3
            April 13 2025 21: 02
            Compression is the pressure at the end of the compression stroke, and even depends on the battery charge. A weak battery will not allow the shaft to rotate quickly and the piston to move, and air will escape through the gaps. And low atmospheric pressure will certainly not allow the cylinders to fill well before compression.
            1. -1
              April 13 2025 21: 08
              topol717Do you really want to have a discussion with a certified (back in the USSR) specialist in the field of automotive electrical equipment on the topic of compression?
              1. -3
                April 13 2025 21: 08
                Do you really want to embarrass yourself? And say that compression does not depend on the piston speed? Or atmospheric pressure?
                1. -1
                  April 13 2025 21: 10
                  Quote from: topol717
                  Do you really want to embarrass yourself? And say that compression does not depend on the piston speed? Or atmospheric pressure?

                  It depends, and now the compression formula in the studio please.
                  1. -3
                    April 13 2025 21: 11
                    Why do you need a formula? Measuring devices are no longer suitable?
                    1. -1
                      April 13 2025 21: 13
                      Quote from: topol717
                      Why do you need a formula? Measuring devices are no longer suitable?

                      Well, yes, why do we need an exact calculation? We will now count with a finger meter, an eye meter, a palm meter and other devices.
                      1. -2
                        April 13 2025 21: 18
                        Quote from kromer
                        We are using a finger meter
                        You can measure with anything, but in our boys' club it is customary to do this with a pressure gauge. For example, with a 60% discharged battery and a crankshaft speed of 150 rpm instead of 200 rpm, the compression in the internal combustion engine drops from 15-16 to 13-14, which is approximately equal to an increase of 1000 meters above sea level.
                      2. 0
                        April 13 2025 21: 28
                        Engine compression with a PRESSURE GAUGE? You are really clever. Didn't you mix it up with the Tires after 3 bottles?
                        I wonder how you did it... breaking the shut-off valve is not an option.... Yes, there is only one way to cut it off, but how to choose the appropriate diameter and thread for it?
                      3. -1
                        April 13 2025 21: 30
                        They even raised the sea by a kilometer... no, there are clearly not 3 bottles there.
                      4. -1
                        April 13 2025 21: 36
                        Quote from: topol717
                        and in our boys' club


                        The Soviet Criminal Code had an article on sodomy, it’s a pity it was abolished in the Russian Federation.
                      5. 0
                        April 13 2025 23: 06
                        Quote from kromer
                        The Soviet Criminal Code had an article on sodomy, it’s a pity it was abolished in the Russian Federation.
                        Of course there were, but there were no girls in our Higher Naval School. There were 3 squads in the squadron and 4 platoons in the company, and all without girls. And what about the article?
                      6. -2
                        April 13 2025 23: 15
                        Quote from: topol717
                        and in our boys' club it is customary to do this with a pressure gauge.

                        Please pay attention to the word "accepted". In Russian there are 3 tenses: past, present, future. You are writing in the present tense, i.e. now. Will you claim that you are now studying at the Higher Naval Military School?
                      7. +1
                        April 13 2025 23: 17
                        Quote from kromer
                        . Will you claim that you are currently studying at the Higher Naval Military School?
                        Of course not, I've been retired for 25 years. But I remember my "parish" school )))!!! And I remember every cadet in my company, even though many are no longer alive.
                      8. -1
                        April 13 2025 23: 21
                        Here I am, a pensioner, though I work as long as my health allows. That's why we do all sorts of crap like arguing on the site.
                      9. -1
                        April 13 2025 23: 41
                        Dear Evgeny. Now the question is not specifically about you. And I do not accuse you of anything with this question.
                        Why is it that everyone in an argument is 40+, but as soon as they lose the argument, their age suddenly doubles?
                      10. 0
                        April 13 2025 23: 48
                        Where did I lose? I claim that compression in an internal combustion engine depends on atmospheric pressure, and in the same way depends on the battery charge. And I have not yet received, and could not receive, a refutation.
                      11. -1
                        April 13 2025 23: 59
                        Dear Evgeniy. Read my post again. There you will find the answer to your question at the beginning.
                        I had a dispute with one person 2 weeks ago, today he has not appeared on the site.
                      12. -1
                        April 14 2025 00: 05
                        I have no complaints against you personally.
                      13. -1
                        April 14 2025 00: 48
                        in our boys club
                        Girls, don't be so picky, I don't want to offend anyone, but you, Evgeny and Valery, are both partly right.
                        I will try to explain to you the essence of your dispute. The fact is that in the theory of internal combustion engines there is no concept of compression, but there is a term compression ratio which is calculated by the ratio of the volume of the combustion chamber and the full volume of the cylinder. This is a calculated value and is not measured on a real engine, but the compression value depends on it, which is measured on a real engine and serves exclusively to control the condition of the engine. In order for the compression value not to mislead about the condition of the CPG, measurements must be carried out under otherwise equal conditions (cylinder lubrication, fuel, engine speed).
                        Now, as for the highlands, when moving down, the filling stroke of the cylinder will in any case suck in the volume of air that is in the cylinder, but with a change in altitude, the mass fraction of gases in the air changes. Simply put, at any altitude, a liter of air always remains a liter, but the higher you rise, the less oxygen in this liter is necessary for combustion, the more difficult it becomes to start the engine, because you need to reduce the fuel supply to achieve stoichiometry of the fuel-air mixture.
                      14. -1
                        April 14 2025 00: 34
                        Please pay attention to the word "accepted". In Russian there are 3 tenses: past, present, future. You are writing in the present tense, i.e. now
                        I'm embarrassed to ask, are you an Israeli? Usually, Israelis are great connoisseurs of the Russian language and teach the rules of the Russian language at every opportunity. By the way, the fact that the pressure in the engine cylinder is measured with a MANOMETER is probably a revelation for you, an Israeli. And what do they measure the pressure in the engine cylinder with, in your opinion? Really with a TACHOMETER?
                      15. -1
                        April 14 2025 00: 40
                        Go and sleep it off. You stink of fumes even in Moscow. And when you wake up, go to an Internet search engine and ask the question What is the name of the device for measuring compression in cylinders? And you will be happy.
                      16. -1
                        April 14 2025 00: 44
                        How many times can I say something that every driver knows. A pressure gauge measures the pressure in tires.
                      17. 0
                        April 14 2025 01: 05
                        .
                        How many times can I say something that every driver knows. A pressure gauge measures the pressure in tires
                        How do they measure water pressure in water pipes? How do they measure gas pressure in a gas pipeline?
                      18. -1
                        April 14 2025 01: 15
                        Also with a pressure gauge, only a different one. You seem to have read how compression in an internal combustion engine is measured, but decided to continue to act like an idiot?
                      19. -1
                        April 14 2025 00: 49
                        Why do you have such a soft spot for the people of Israel? Are you a nationalist? A fascist? Or something more serious?
                      20. 0
                        April 14 2025 01: 09
                        Why do you have such a soft spot for the people of Israel?
                        I breathe evenly with the people of all countries. And what is your purpose in asking? Do you want to expose and brand me a fascist? Do you want to report me to Mossad?
                      21. -1
                        April 14 2025 01: 17
                        Quote: rotfuks
                        Do you want to report me to Mossad?

                        Why? The FSB will read it today.
                      22. -1
                        April 14 2025 01: 18
                        But I already understood that you are a Nazi.
                      23. 0
                        April 14 2025 01: 23
                        .
                        But I already understood that you are a Nazi.
                        Judging by the speed with which you label Nazism and fascism, you are definitely an Israeli. Only there are such frozen amateurs who firmly believe that a pressure gauge only measures tire pressure.
                      24. -1
                        April 14 2025 01: 30
                        Quote: rotfuks
                        .
                        But I already understood that you are a Nazi.
                        Judging by the speed with which you label Nazism and fascism, you are definitely an Israeli. Only there are such frozen amateurs who firmly believe that a pressure gauge only measures tire pressure.

                        Linking nationality to a blood pressure measuring device is the highest level of skill of a drunken degenerate.

                        But I will disappoint you greatly. I know my ancestors up to the 4th generation. All Russian and without any admixtures. All lived on Russian territory. I am from the Tver region, and have lived in Moscow for the last 27 years (well, not counting "business trips").
                      25. 0
                        April 14 2025 01: 42
                        Linking nationality to a blood pressure measuring device is a masterstroke
                        Copy the phrase from my posts mentioning nationality. In which post did I mention someone's nationality? But you generously hang labels about fascism and nationalism. You are an ordinary forum chatterbox who foams at the mouth and talks about pressure gauges and engines without having an elementary understanding of this. Perhaps you already have senile dementia and you are not in control of yourself. Take haloperidol or its analogues and calm down.
                      26. 0
                        April 14 2025 01: 45
                        I read it and realized that you clearly ate too much haloperidol today.
                        Good luck with your treatment.
                      27. -1
                        April 14 2025 16: 05
                        Quote from: topol717
                        You can measure with anything, but in our boys' club it is customary to do this with a pressure gauge.

                        Sorry to butt in, but you can't measure compression with a simple pressure gauge. Of course, the device called a compression gauge has a pressure gauge, but it is the compression gauge that is used to measure compression. Our mechanics club doesn't do this with a pressure gauge - we're not boys anymore.
                      28. -1
                        April 15 2025 00: 22
                        OPPA, the man finally followed my advice and searched the Internet for the name of a device for measuring compression in an internal combustion engine
                      29. -1
                        April 15 2025 00: 26
                        Quote from kromer
                        OPPA, the man finally followed my advice and searched the Internet for the name of a device for measuring compression in an internal combustion engine

                        Boy, when I started using compression testers, the internet was still a secret development. Can you name the device used to measure compression in diesel engines?
                      30. -1
                        April 15 2025 00: 30
                        Quote: faridg7
                        boy,

                        Well, let's say I'm a boy, and you're a girl, so I should flirt with you?
                      31. -1
                        April 15 2025 00: 41
                        Quote: faridg7
                        and I started using compression measuring devices, the Internet was still a secret development.


                        The Internet was a secret development in the USSR from 1943 to 1945. Then the project was abandoned. From 43-45, 80-82 years have passed. According to you, you were already using a compression meter, i.e. another 20 years.
                        HELLO grandpa!!! What cemetery are you writing from????
                      32. 0
                        April 15 2025 14: 22
                        Quote from: topol717
                        For example, with a 60% discharged battery and a crankshaft speed of 150 rpm instead of 200 rpm, the compression in the internal combustion engine drops from 15-16 to 13-14, which is approximately equal to an increase of 1000 meters above sea level.

                        Don't be offended, but compression is maximum compression ratio value. Therefore, throw all your reasoning about the battery and crankshaft speed into the trash.
                      33. 0
                        April 15 2025 14: 44
                        Quote from kromer
                        maximum compression ratio value

                        What units of measurement will you measure this in? For example, I write compression 14 bar. Well, or 13.5 atmospheres. What are you using?
                      34. 0
                        April 15 2025 14: 48
                        Quote from: topol717
                        Quote from kromer
                        maximum compression ratio value

                        What units of measurement will you measure this in? For example, I write compression 14 bar. Well, or 13.5 atmospheres. What are you using?


                        In atmospheres.
                        Only alcoholics in the garage with a glass measure in other units.
                      35. 0
                        April 15 2025 14: 49
                        Atmospheres, and what is measured in atmospheres? Pressure? Or something else?
                      36. 0
                        April 15 2025 14: 57
                        Well, compression is also pressure. Just a little different. Can you tell venous blood from arterial? It seems like both are blood, but there is a nuance. (Hussars, don't laugh!)
                      37. 0
                        April 15 2025 15: 09
                        What does "different" mean? This is the maximum PRESSURE that was obtained by compressing air in the cylinder. If your crankshaft rotates very slowly, then the loss of this pressure during compression will be high and it (the pressure) will drop. If the initial atmospheric pressure is lower, then the final pressure will be lower. There is nothing else there. These are logical things that you don't want to agree with.
                      38. 0
                        April 15 2025 15: 17
                        Again, you are talking about the crankshaft. You ask yourself a question and look for an answer: why aren't all devices that measure pressure called manometers? Why is compression measured with a Compression Meter, and a person's pressure with a Tonometer? Maybe the problem is in the design and functionality?
                      39. 0
                        April 15 2025 16: 08
                        Quote from: topol717
                        What does "different" mean? This is the maximum PRESSURE that was obtained by compressing air in the cylinder. If your crankshaft rotates very slowly, then the loss of this pressure during compression will be high and it (the pressure) will drop. If the initial atmospheric pressure is lower, then the final pressure will be lower. There is nothing else there. These are logical things that you don't want to agree with.


                        But haven’t you realized that the discussion has already reached its consensus?
                        What is compression? You will find the answer in the first line of my previous post.
                        You are right about the crankshaft. Compression is measured precisely for this purpose, to find out the engine wear.
                        All you have to do is call a spade a spade. You don't measure blood pressure with a manometer, do you?
              2. kig
                0
                April 15 2025 09: 26
                Quote from kromer
                debate with a graduate

                Theory: everyone knows how it should work, but nothing works. Practice: everything works, but no one understands why. Well, you can combine theory with practice.
                1. 0
                  April 15 2025 12: 09
                  Quote: kig
                  Quote from kromer
                  debate with a graduate

                  Theory: everyone knows how it should work, but nothing works. Practice: everything works, but no one understands why. Well, you can combine theory with practice.


                  My theory is supported by very powerful practice.
                  1. kig
                    0
                    April 15 2025 13: 17
                    Quote from kromer
                    The theory is supported by very powerful practice

                    Nothing works...and no one understands why crying
                    1. 0
                      April 15 2025 13: 21
                      Quote: kig
                      Quote from kromer
                      The theory is supported by very powerful practice

                      Nothing works...and no one understands why crying


                      Well, if your hands are growing out of experience, then there’s nothing you can do.
                    2. 0
                      April 15 2025 13: 25
                      Well, here the situation is completely the opposite... it's practice supported by theory.
      3. -1
        April 13 2025 15: 51
        Quote: 73bor
        It is enough to buy the required amount of kerosene and mix it with summer oil in the proportion - Indians, use it!

        And after what time will your piston say: hello polar fox?
        1. +1
          April 13 2025 20: 32
          No way, diesel itself is a multi-fuel engine and if this is important on your civilian car, then on a tank diesel - it doesn't matter! For a diesel engine, oil and air are much more important. In battle, the resource is not important when the regiment lives for 30 minutes.
        2. -1
          April 13 2025 23: 55
          After what time will your piston say: hello polar fox?
          The CPG will survive with difficulty, but the injection pump will bark faster.
  4. +2
    April 13 2025 13: 15
    "Diesel fuel thickens" well, I won't discuss the Russian language, and don't the Indians know that diesel fuel grades are classified by operating conditions??? "Let's discover America" ​​- DL (summer diesel), DZ (winter diesel), DA (arctic diesel). Use them.
    1. -1
      April 13 2025 21: 17
      "Pre-heater for the T-72 tank. It is a device for pre-heating the engine before starting it in conditions of ambient temperature below 5°C (when using diesel and kerosene fuel), and also below - 20°C (when using gasoline)." (c)
      Nothing was said about Arctic fuel. Is it in the troops now?
      1. -1
        April 14 2025 18: 41
        Almost all models of military equipment are equipped with pre-heaters. Especially if you consider that it is used to heat the oil tank of the lubrication system and the coolant in the heater boiler. Arctic fuel was definitely used in "frost-resistant regions" such as Kamchatka, Kandalaksha, Anadyr, Transbaikalia, the Kuril Islands. I hope that it is still used. I haven't been there for a long time. The troops definitely use it on the BAM. It's very cold.))
      2. 0
        April 15 2025 12: 14
        Quote: Sergey Alexandrovich
        Nothing was said about Arctic fuel. Is it in the troops now?


        Yes, everything is like in Soviet times. A blowtorch works wonders.
  5. -1
    April 13 2025 13: 15
    I'm not a motorist, but! There is an arctic diesel fuel, it was created specifically for military equipment. Back in the mid-90s, I bought it from sailors and poured it into an Opel Kadett D - there were no problems with starting, and this was in the Arctic. Or are the Indians flattened to buy this diesel fuel from us? Is it easier to use pre-start gadgets, raping the engines?! fool
    1. 0
      April 13 2025 13: 45
      Well, first of all, if there were sailors and an Opel Cadet in your Arctic, then there was probably no talk of -40. And pre-start gadgets just allow you to start the engine without forcing it, because they warm up not the fuel (or rather, not only the fuel), but the engine crankcase and oil (which thickens no worse than the fuel)
      1. -1
        April 14 2025 14: 34
        Quote: faridg7
        Well, first of all, if there were sailors and an Opel Cadet in your Arctic, then there was probably no talk of -40. And pre-start gadgets just allow you to start the engine without forcing it, because they warm up not the fuel (or rather, not only the fuel), but the engine crankcase and oil (which thickens no worse than the fuel)

        Pre-start gadgets, aka engine heaters, do not heat the oil!
        Only coolant. By circulating, coolant can warm up the engine"!
        BUT!!!
        CARTER IS ALWAYS COLD!
        and the oil in it too. Cold.
        This applies to all owners of engine pre-heaters who have similar misconceptions.
        1. -3
          April 14 2025 15: 27
          Firstly, the pre-heater can be connected in different ways,
          Secondly, there are different types and kinds of pre-heaters. They can heat only the coolant, they can heat the coolant and oil in the crankcase (by the way, in tank diesel engines, the oil may not be in the crankcase, but in a separate tank), they can heat the liquid, oil and battery. Everything depends on the customer's desire and financial capabilities.
          For example. My pre-heater heats the coolant, which heats up the air in the cabin, and the exhaust from the heater boiler heats up the engine crankcase (which is always cold in yours).
          Another example
          A good friend of mine from Yakutia has a car with an independent boiler installed in the same way as mine, with a small difference - it heats the coolant in the block jacket, without the ability to warm up the radiator of the cabin heater (he has a separate dry heater for heating the cabin), electric heating elements are installed in the block jacket and the engine sump (these, mind you, are also pre-heaters). And in addition, under the batteries in the INSULATED compartment, a heating mat with a thermostat is installed to warm up the batteries. And the battery box itself is connected to the cabin with a heat-insulated sleeve, through which warm air from the cabin (with the cabin heater on) comes to heat this space.
          And more
          Quote: SovAr238A
          Engine heaters - do not heat the oil!

          In the engine block heated by the pre-heater, the cylinder-piston group, the valve timing mechanism, all drives and everything else, which includes unplumbed from the gaps and channels the remaining oil, which at start-up primarily works in the engine, providing lubrication and cooling of surfaces. The engine is warmed up primarily in order to ensure the fluidity of this oil - it is this oil in a frozen state that prevents the engine from turning and can damage the plain bearings. You, sir, are slightly wrong in your statement.
          1. -2
            April 14 2025 16: 11
            Quote: faridg7
            For example. My pre-heater heats the coolant, which heats up the air in the cabin, and the exhaust from the heater boiler heats up the engine crankcase (which is always cold in yours).


            Are you for real right now?
            exhaust to the crankcase?

            I have experience managing a fleet of 1050 vehicles. 850 SUVs from Nakhodka to Kaliningrad and 200 special equipment in the north (Yamal and Kovykta).
            The PZhD was installed on every vehicle except the southern ones.

            When starting from the battery at minus 50, the PZhD sucks out the battery in half an hour. And you also put a battery heater on it? A heating mat, you say? Do you know the power emitted by this heating mat? Do you know the heat capacity of a lead battery? How long will you heat it? In subzero weather? A month, three, six months?

            Oh, these dreamers...
            Either theoreticians or simply illiterate losers...
            1. -2
              April 14 2025 16: 18
              Quote: SovAr238A
              When starting from the battery at minus 50, the PZhD sucks out the battery in half an hour. And you also put a battery heater on it? A heating mat, you say? Do you know the power emitted by this heating mat? Do you know the heat capacity of a lead battery? How long will you heat it? in sub-zero weather?

              Are you out of your mind? To hang an electric heating element on the battery by loading it? There are 220V power sockets for such things, it's not my idea, but feel free to use it.
            2. -2
              April 14 2025 16: 25
              Quote: SovAr238A
              When starting from the battery at minus 50, the PZhD drains the battery in half an hour.

              Do you have batteries from passenger cars installed on your equipment? On normal equipment, a group of four batteries, with a capacity of 180 Ah each, can supply power to the heater for 6 hours, then provide 40 minutes of engine warm-up and start the C15 engine.
            3. -2
              April 14 2025 16: 40
              By the way, about heating the battery, the Ural plant produces kits for installing battery heating. The batteries are heated by tubes with antifreeze laid through the compartment and connected to the engine cooling system, also an interesting solution, you just need to check such a system more often - the tubes are depressurized and the engine dries out
            4. -2
              April 14 2025 16: 58
              Quote: SovAr238A
              Are you for real right now?
              exhaust to the crankcase?

              What surprised you here? Here is a diagram of the installation of the PZhD30 on a Kamaz, the exhaust from the boiler is routed to the oil pan
      2. -3
        April 14 2025 21: 36
        Quote: faridg7
        Well, firstly, if there were sailors and an Opel Cadet in your Arctic, then there was most likely no talk of -40.

        Kola Peninsula. Every diesel car has a preheater for the spark plugs. In those days, winters were winters everywhere, even in Crimea, ask your older relatives. And there used to be a shortage of gadgets, due to the lack of them, except for a heated dipstick...
  6. 0
    April 13 2025 13: 20
    And in the regions of the Far North, arctic...
    Arctic diesel fuel is a special type of fuel developed for extreme conditions. Regular grades freeze at temperatures as low as -15 degrees Celsius, while arctic grades can withstand temperatures as low as -45 degrees Celsius or even higher. Some can withstand temperatures as low as -55℃.
  7. -2
    April 13 2025 13: 47
    pour in warm diesel fuel so that it doesn't thicken in the cold
  8. +1
    April 13 2025 14: 09
    Oh, you are experts - commentators. I will tell you what the Indians need to do - the path is difficult and treacherous. Polar explorers - Indians in Antarctica, must organize a sled expedition from their station to our station "Vostok" to our mechanics, they will of course explain to them what to do in such cases. And I warn you, dancing with tambourines will not work, you need a drinking liquid that does not freeze at minus 80 ° C. Otherwise they will go back on sleds, never having learned the secret. laughing drinks I don’t think that Indians are stupid, I read about their battles with Pakistanis in the Himalayas, their weapons didn’t jam... While I was reading I froze like “Ayavrik”.
  9. 0
    April 13 2025 14: 14
    "Diesel fuel thickens"

    There are different options. In addition to the aforementioned arctic grades and mixing with kerosene, there are also depressant-dispersant additives. It is not necessary to buy arctic diesel in its entirety, additives are enough (which, by the way, are present in these arctic diesels).
  10. -2
    April 13 2025 14: 15
    Quote: Vasyan1971
    Since what year did India have our tanks?
    They are simply assembled in India from our components.
  11. -3
    April 13 2025 14: 59
    Didn't they tell the Indians about "winter" diesel fuel?
  12. -1
    April 13 2025 15: 45
    And why did they drag tanks there? In narrow gorges they will be burned by drones in no time! The Chinese are not stupid, there are rumors that they are gaining experience of modern warfare in our SVO! And then they will show the stupid ones Kuzka's mother!
    1. +1
      April 13 2025 16: 11
      In narrow gorges they will be burned by drones in no time!

      And why don't they fly to Everest by helicopter?
      1. 0
        April 13 2025 16: 16
        And they don't get there in submarines.
    2. -1
      April 14 2025 16: 08
      The Chinese brought their own, and so did the Indians, so as not to "lag behind". laughing
  13. 0
    April 13 2025 15: 55
    What's going on here? A circus! "War is war"
  14. 0
    April 13 2025 17: 26
    Well, yes, when in the "severe winter cold" in the country the temperature is +20, then talk about winter fuel and heating it in tanks is really a very new and interesting topic laughing
    1. 0
      April 14 2025 00: 55
      Quote: Romanenko
      Well, yes, when in the "severe winter cold" in the country the temperature is +20, then talk about winter fuel and heating it in tanks is really a very new and interesting topic laughing

      You know, in 1941-1942 the Germans complained about the Ukrainian SSR that the frosts during the day were minus 30, and at night they went below minus 40. The main losses of the Wehrmacht there were from frostbite.
  15. -1
    April 14 2025 16: 07
    Maybe Indians will finally learn about the existence of "winter" diesel fuel? wassat
  16. 0
    April 14 2025 19: 10
    Have you tried, dear Indian gentlemen, to fill up with winter diesel fuel? Or even better, arctic diesel. laughing
  17. 0
    April 15 2025 20: 53
    There should be standard heaters there. Why develop something else?
    There's something missing from the article...