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"Want to live - shoot first"

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"Want to live - shoot first"

War is the most vivid manifestation of an extreme situation in which a person can fall.


In the event of a shipwreck, fire, earthquake, or other natural disasters, man has developed certain rules of action, which are posted in the form of instructions and instructions.

There is not a single instruction (except for the military regulations) on how a person can act in a given situation, whether he enters the combat area or simply put it on the war. Excellent knowledge of the combat regulations does not guarantee that the assigned combat task will be accomplished with the least loss of personnel in the conditions of a rapidly changing combat situation.

A major role in survival is played by the combat experience and psychological preparedness of each fighter. There are general concepts of how to act in a street fight, in the mountains, in the territory occupied by the enemy, or in the forest. But the mountains are different, just like the streets of settlements are different, so each time you have to act according to the specific situation, sometimes guided not only by the experience gained earlier, but also by ... intuition.

Intuition, based on combat experience, is a feeling which itself “switches on” at the moment of mortal danger, and no instructions will replace it. If you find yourself in a difficult situation, when your life depends on an instantaneous, the only right decision, only your intuition can tell you how to act. The chances of a fighter getting out of a scrape alive are directly proportional to his combat experience.

EXIT TO THE AREA

Passing the line of defense of the militants in Grozny, we penetrated into the districts fully controlled by the "spirits". Army camouflage and our unshaven, blackened faces with flushed cheeks gave us a chance to completely pass for the militants in the event of a sudden meeting with the “warriors of Ichkeria”. The mess of the militants was similar to the mess that prevailed in the disposition of our troops. The system of passes and passwords in conditions of general confusion among militants sometimes did not work, and it was enough to shout “Allah Akbar” to be accepted as ours.

Our goal was to conduct reconnaissance on the territory located behind the combat orders of the militants, and to disrupt the enemy’s communications system by mining to bring in a sense of chaos and panic into its ranks.

They moved exclusively in the evening, but before dark. With the onset of darkness, the advancement of the city is dangerous, since at that time the belligerents doubled the attention behind all actions from the adjacent side. At night, we sat out in stinky basements or in abandoned houses of the private sector, which we selected after preliminary reconnaissance in such a way that all approaches to our shelter are clearly visible.

Already beginning to get dark. The second day we circled in this area, we can’t find a passage to the neighboring area, teeming with armed militants with beards with green armbands. We need to sit out this night, and with dawn go to the next street. I noticed this afternoon that the militants indicated on our map the exit to the next street turned into a stronghold in case of a Russian breakthrough tanks, filling it with various large-sized rubbish, consisting of broken cars and a half-burned bus.

The sixth sense told me that for certain this improvised barricade is “protected” by the “spirits”, therefore, foolishness should not be sent there.

The whole nature of war puts the question before a belligerent: "Will you be able to survive or not?"


Having set security and an observer, we lie down to rest on a pile of broken bricks. The bricks stick into the back, and the internal stress does not allow to fall asleep. Turning over on my stomach, I lay down on bent arms, - the pose is not comfortable, but I force myself to sleep, tomorrow is a difficult day.

You can't call it a dream. Closing your eyes, you fall into a trance of oblivion, while continuing to somehow control the environment. Woke up suddenly. Silence. However, the stomach became cold and uncomfortable. After another instant, he heard the crunch of garbage, heavy footsteps, and saw the beam of a flashlight gently prowling.

"Notice! Where is the observer, is it already lying with a cut throat? ”- my condition was close to panic.

I can not hear the breath of his comrades. It means that they are not sleeping, and just like me, hiding, are pressed into a pile of bricks.

People with a flashlight (it was probably a patrol of militants) stopped near the entrance to our shelter.

There was silence, which seemed to me life-long. Heart pushed to the throat.

“We need to pull myself together. In the morning I read “Our Father,” and God will save me, ”- this thought, if not calming me down, then at least makes me get rid of the paralyzing animal fear of the unknown and get ready for action.
Automatic at hand. The fingers of the other hand grope the cold ribbed surface of the F-1 grenade, the purpose of which is one - not to be captured alive.

Steps began to be deleted. "Not found."

Tension subsided. However, anxiety for the children who were on observation did not pass.
Conditional signal. "Our!" Two figures, similar to the shadows, slipped to us.

As it turned out, the militants suddenly appeared from some basement, to which we at first did not even pay attention. When it began to dawn, we cautiously left our shelter, having previously left several “hotels” in the form of two MON-50. Coming out of the basement and looking around, we found an inconspicuous passage to the basement, upon further examination turned out to be a through passage to the street where we could not get to before.

Zaminirovat and this passage, which the militants will probably try to use, our group leaked behind the "spirits" in the area of ​​the tram park. There was no reason for us to stay here for a long time. The depot of the tram park and the territory adjacent to it were infested with militants, since Maskhadov’s headquarters were located here, and the militants could run into our “presents” and see that other people appeared on their territory. Collecting intelligence by visual observation, trying to quickly get rid of the load - setting and masking mines, we began to prepare for the withdrawal. The withdrawal route, developed by us and agreed with the command of the units, to the frontier of which we had to go after the operation, turned out to be useless. Rather, to say that by this time, while we were in the rear of the enemy, the situation has changed. The frontiers of contact with the enemy moved, in some areas the militants created new strongholds. Based on the current situation, we had to carry out additional exploration and search for new departure routes.

WASTE

During the three days of the operation, I lost eight kilograms. Pants literally began to fall off me, so I had to twist the additional holes in the waist belt.

In contrast to all the clever statements of doctors and psychologists, how to use their inner potential more rationally, how the condition of the “winners and losers” affects the health and psyche of a fighter, everyone maintained his body as best he could.

I remembered that in the breast pocket of my jacket I had a carefully laid out sheet of "Sidnokarb", which was given to the personnel of the groups leaving for military operations as a stimulant.

Having swallowed five pills of this stimulant at once, I felt a surge of strength and energy.

A shot can be heard from any window ...


But the most important stimulant was hatred of the enemy and the desire to destroy him. “Shoot first, act tougher and more aggressive, a good enemy is a dead enemy.” These mottos are becoming an integral element of maintaining the internal fighting spirit of a real fighter. It is a state of mind, a willingness to be the first to kill the enemy, the notions of “fighter” and simply “soldier” differ. That is why psychologically unprepared for war, twenty-year-old young Russian soldiers sometimes turned, sadly, into “cannon fodder”. The fighter should be psychologically ready for war and ready to take calmly the possibility of death. However, these principles, when moving from a state of war to a state of peace, have a detrimental effect on the psychological state of a person returning to peaceful life, with its laws directly opposed to those by which this person lived in a world of war. But more about that later.

And now we are moving along the ruined city, carefully examining the neighborhood and looking for the enemy’s vulnerable spots in order to jump out to our own.
Two times they ran into small groups of militants consisting of adult men and fifteen-year-olds. They were armed with rather different colors, however, and the “ammunition” on them was quite variegated - some were in camouflage, and others in civilian jackets, black jeans and sneakers. Unshaven, dirty faces of the militants were no different from ours. Their main armament was AKM-7,62, but SVD, PC machine guns, and even hunting rifles were also encountered.

A pair of militants in such groups carried the RPG-7 and the shots to them or several RPG-18. During short, sudden meetings, we cheered merrily (it was our face that stretched our mouths wide and showed our teeth to each other, rather than smiling) and greeting each other with shouts of “Allah Akbar” (I even once tightened the anthem of the Ukrainian nationalists “Ukraine has not died yet ...” ), pretending to hurry to our only known positions, quickly dived into the first courtyard and just as quickly tried to get away from the place of a sudden meeting. This precaution is not superfluous. Again, intuition and experience suggested that in the general confusion of street battles, insurgents may still wonder to which detachment the group of “militant Ukrainian thugs” that they encountered belong to and where they stand, and then we will only have to destroy them. For our group, an open fight on the territory under the complete control of the enemy will mean failure, and the probability of breaking through to our own will be equal to zero.

DO NOT BELIEVE THE EYES AND WEAR YOUR OWN

Despite the fact that there were guys in our group who lived before all these events in Grozny, it was very difficult to navigate the destroyed city. In some places, the enemy's positions were five days ago, and now they can be occupied by us, as a result of which there is a high possibility of getting under fire from federal troops. Although there are no “smart” deaths, it’s stupid to get a bullet from one’s own.

To avoid this, we had to constantly conduct additional exploration of the area.

Witness to the consequences when our recon groups flew their own, I became in January 1995.

A similar reconnaissance team under the command of Vadim flew at the Volgograd (part of the 8 Army Corps under the command of General Rokhlin) in one of the districts of Grozny. The lack of interaction played a tragic role, the Vadim group was accepted by the “Volgograd residents” as the enemy, and fire was launched at it to kill. One of the group was killed. Vadim jumped out of hiding and started shouting: “Do not shoot! We are ours! ”After he was“ detained ”by fighters who came up, it turned out that he had no documents. Attempting to explain himself to the "Volgograd" Vadim was severely beaten and almost shot. After clarification of all the circumstances of the case and requests for confirmation to the higher headquarters, Vadim in critical condition was taken to the hospital at Severny.

I stood by his bed, and it was painful for me to listen to his poignant, stuttering speech, in which he only often repeated: “T-t-pn-understand, I-I in Af-fgan-p-p-got-k- to-con-uziyu, and sz-here-to-me to-to-end ... "Two hours later, he was taken by special" turntables "to Mozdok, and then to the hospital on the" mainland ".

Having run a small square, through the arch we drop into the courtyard. He seems to be from another life. The war so spared him that the ruins on the neighboring streets create the impression that the arch through which we entered the courtyard was a gate from one world to another. Silence is unusual.

The fact that silence in war is sometimes deceptive, we were convinced in a few minutes. Trusting in silence and seeming calm, we made a mistake that almost led to a tragic denouement for us. We have violated the basic rules of movement on the territory occupied by the enemy, which say: “Do not trust your eyes and ears. Trust only instinct and animal instinct. Check seven times ... ”and other principles, according to which we have no right to relax.

From the window of the second floor of the neighboring house we were called in Chechen. We were confused ...

Having received no answer, they opened fire on us. But either the arrows turned out to be crap, or because these “bestial instincts” woke up again in us, only one person from our group received a slight wound to the side, and even that is tangent, since we immediately found ourselves behind high concrete slabs, hiding from enemy fire.

In order not to waste ammunition in vain, we decided not to conduct intensive non-aiming shooting at the enemy in the building and, therefore, in an advantageous position, especially since we did not know their strengths and intentions. Being under the cover of the same concrete slabs, snapping short bursts and a single fire, we tried to gain time to make the very “right decision”.

Through the windows of the basement, we penetrated one by one into the three-story house behind our backs. Cursing and cursing himself for carelessness, the first thing was helping the wounded man. Two went on reconnaissance. The rest took defense. Returning from intelligence brought good news: at some distance from us are the lines of the Russian troops storming the city. Apparently, the close proximity of the federal troops did not allow the militants who had fired at us in the courtyard to take more decisive actions against our group, entrenched in this three-story house. Or maybe it was a similar group of the enemy, whose task is not to conduct a protracted open battle. In any case, we quickly established contact with the command of the divisions of the federal troops, which reached the line, and within an hour on the armored personnel carriers sent us to the "Northern".

THE LAW OF WAR

There are no people who could refute the thesis that “war is bad and peace is good.” However, pacifist thoughts evaporate immediately, from the very first days, as soon as you get to the combat area.

Will fall ... will not fall ...


If a person did not understand where he went, then pacifist thoughts evaporate with the soul, and this process happens very quickly and, as a rule, does not cause regret in others.

The constantly changing situation in battle leaves little time to think about whether to shoot or not to shoot. The whole nature of war as an extreme situation poses the question to a belligerent person: “Will you be able to survive or not?”

The answer to this question depends on which decision you take faster and which decision will be correct. On this depends, as a rule, not only your life, but also the life of your comrades.

So, in December, 1994, on the border of Dagestan and Chechnya, a crowd of local civilians blocked a column of Russian armored vehicles. Unaccustomed to shooting at unarmed people, the Russian soldiers and officers were confused, which the militants who stood in the crowd of local residents did not fail to take advantage of. Several “soldiers” and officers (among whom there were two lieutenant colonels), under the merry hooting of the crowd, the “peaceful” inhabitants dragged out the armored personnel carriers from the hatches and turned them from armed people into frightened prisoners.

The tactics of using civilians in operations to seize Russian weapons and captured militants stopped after Russian units stopped responding to crowds of civilians. Until the militants вич bloody snot ’flew on our armor, human shields from local residents were placed in the direction of advancing almost all Russian convoys in Chechnya. The “indecisive” and “doubters” of the actions of the Russian servicemen had previously become easy prey for the militants, and the weapon with the same ease passed into the hands of Dudayevites. “With our decisive, even if sometimes brutal, actions, we put an end to the vicious practice of the militants, preserving the lives of our children,” one of the officers of the motorized rifle regiment located under Vedeno confessed to me.

DO NOT RESPOND TO FIRE!

I have occasion to communicate with helicopter pilots, whose work is quite comparable with the work of an infantryman or tankman.
The fact that helicopter pilots have to work with maximum load and constantly under threat of being shot down in the Vedeno or Shatoy districts was not a secret for anyone in Chechnya.

In May, 1996, I met the pilots of the Vyazma helicopter regiment.
Two weeks ago, they arrived in Chechnya from Tajikistan, but had already managed to get the bitter experience that violation of the laws of war leads to unjustified victims.

- You see, Andrei, it comes to the point of absurdity. They are firing us from "zelenka" and settlements with which a peace treaty has been signed. To all requests to the command, to give permission to destroy the enemy firing points, we get the answer: "Do not shoot at all."

In May, a X-NUMX near Nozhai-Yurt was destroyed by a Mi-1996 from a grenade launcher, two people were killed. The helicopter was destroyed by the separatists at the same post where several days later 8 fighters of the 26 regiment of ODON were taken prisoner, despite the fact that the local population had warned the federal forces in advance about the presence of the Gilayev gang in this area.

The fact that the ability of helicopter pilots to turn into a pile of warped metal and steaming meat is high, I realized from my own skin.

FLIGHT OVER NUCLEAR NEST

We take off with a pair of Mi-24 to cover a column of troops moving from Asinovskaya under Bamut. I sit in the troop compartment of one of the MN-24 in place of the onboard equipment-arrow. Wearing a headset and connecting a headset intercom, I hear all the conversations of the crew. We are flying at a height of about 1000 m. Having escorted the column, we lay on the opposite course. When we flew over the Orekhov, we heard a characteristic squeak in the headphones - we are irradiated.

The irradiation "spinner" receives from the laser rangefinder MANPADS (portable anti-aircraft missile system). And this means that at any time an anti-aircraft missile can be launched on our helicopter. I looked hopefully at the parachute behind me. Even before departure, the onboard technician advised me to wear a parachute suspension. Now I looked down: "Yes, I will have to fall high." In the headphones I hear the voices of the commander of the crew

Sasha and the navigator:
- Irradiation of the rear hemisphere.
- We produce heat traps.
- Do not come close to the mountains.

For a moment, imagining the white smoke of rockets approaching us from the ground, I was sad. Several more times in the headset the signal of the helicopter's radiation was heard. But this time, it seems, carried by. Apparently, the "spirits" did not dare launch a rocket, since the second helicopter of fire support, marching with us in a pair, could not request permission from the command and "accidentally" strike the gunmen’s firing point. Attacking the enemy firing points is one of the conditions for the conduct of hostilities. Here, pilots have to act at their own peril and risk so that the military prosecutor’s office does not engage them.

We return to the base. Our helicopter goes at a height of 2-3 meters above the ground, at a “criminally low” height (as the pilots themselves joke). Moving along the bed of the dried river, avoiding dangerous places, lying on the battle lurch, we raced at a speed of 250 - 280 km / h. The bank of the river and the bushes on it rushed past the window of the helicopter so that the eye had nothing to “catch”. The combat pilots who passed through Afghanistan, Abkhazia and Tajikistan, now “turned on” the sky of Chechnya.

SWORD OF DAMOCLES

As I have already said, it was necessary to fight in Chechnya with an eye to the employees of the military prosecutor’s office, who, among other tasks, were entrusted with monitoring the correctness of the use of weapons by the Russian military.
The presence in the combat zone of workers of the main military prosecutor's office, perhaps, is justified, but this "sword of Damocles", constantly hanging over the Russian soldiers and officers fighting in Chechnya, did not allow the troops to adequately respond to the active actions of the militants. Before shooting, the soldier wondered if the military prosecutor’s office would take care of it later. The right of the “first shot” belonged to the militants, which they did not fail to use.
Under the conditions of the so-called “truce” declared by the Russian leadership at the end of May 1996, the demoralization of the Russian troops and the rise of the morale of the militants began.

DEPRESSED FORCES

This silence is deceiving ...


The temporary administration building of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Russian Federation in the Chechen Republic is located in the Staropromyslovsky district of Grozny, here in May 1996 was the headquarters of the operational headquarters (GUOSH). The building of the former fire department housed the fighters of the combined units of SOBR and OMON from Kaliningrad, Orel, Arkhangelsk and other cities of Russia, which are the backbone of GUOSH. The main tasks of the SOBR in GUOSH were escorting transport convoys, working out militant penetration areas and organizing ambushes, protecting officials and other equally important combat missions. The most difficult combat task, according to the testimony of the guys from the Oryol SOBR, was escorting Yandarbiyev’s convoy to the Nazran talks in April 1996. The separatists refused to go to Nazran by the route proposed by the federal command, and SWAT soldiers had to accompany the convoy of separatists along the path chosen by Yandarbiyev. The route of the column passed through the villages occupied by the militants, so there was a high possibility of provocation from the crowd of Yandarbiyev, shouting "Allah Akbar!"

The situation on the territory of GUOSH resembled the situation on the territory of the besieged fortress. On the roof of the former fire department there are firing positions of SOBR, windows in the building are laid with bricks and sandbags, with tiny battlements left for firing, reinforced concrete blocks in the territory are arranged so that at any moment they can be turned into pillboxes. My sense of a besieged fortress was justified that night.

“ALLAH AKBAR” - “SALAM ALEIKUM”

The silence of the night broke suddenly, as if from a call from an unexpected guest. From the nearby “Zelenka”, “spiritual” grenade launchers hit the building of the GUOSH, the militants opened a firing of small arms from an abandoned building opposite. They responded with a booming thud from the roof of the SOBRovsky machine-guns, the night sky with a hiss lit up with signal flares, the queue of tracer bullets, giving target designation, eagerly searched for their prey. Shouts of “Allah Akbar!” Were heard from the “Zelenka”, in response, from the position of SOBRovtsev, amicable: “Salam alleykum ... your mother”.

The shooting also stopped suddenly as it began. In the first seconds the impression is deaf. However, the shot of the “spiritual” grenade launcher that followed in two minutes and the resumed return fire from the positions of the SOBR returned me to reality:
- And often you have such a "fun?" Commander of the Arkhangelsk SOBR
Shreds are looking at me - have I really lost my time?
- Yes, almost every night. "Spirits" in their own way understand the "truce."

FUGAS AS ARGUMENT OF TRUCE

The "truce" the next morning turned into a bloody tragedy. At 10 in the morning hours on Staropromyslovskoye Shosse, the militants carried out a controlled landmine on the side of the highway. Fragments of a burst 152-mm howitzer projectile (tank and howitzer shells are used by militants as the main landfill tab) pierced the armored personnel carrier armor, instantly killing the driver. Uncontrolled armored personnel carriers at a speed of 70 km / h, jumping to the opposite side of the highway and cutting off a concrete lighting column, stopped, covered with blood and splashed by the brains of the 101-th brigade of the armed forces of the armed forces.

Four soldiers died in a matter of seconds, the fifth, who had his legs blown off, died on the way to the hospital, the sixth died on the operating table. Near the scene of the tragedy, an elderly Russian woman walked over, covering her face with her cloak, unable to hide her tears. She has to hide her tears from a crowd of Chechen youth who gathered at a crossroads and cheerfully discussed what had happened.

On the same day, five militants captured at one of the roadblocks were taken to GUOSH. Dressed in black clothes that looked more like uniforms, they had a weapon with them, half of which was equipped with devices for silent shooting. Coming out of Shali after the operations of the federal troops there led by General Shamanov in May 1996, this group tried to penetrate Grozny.

The senior militant group, as it turned out during the investigation, was at the same time the commander of the reconnaissance group from the Shamil Basayev detachment. The captured militants testified that they had arrived in Grozny to carry out terrorist acts. This was evidenced by a list of persons belonging to the government of Chechnya, found with them, indicating the location of the offices. During interrogations it turned out that the militants were also given an order to take out from Grozny, before 10 June, families and relatives of militants fighting in the mountains. All this made it possible to believe that the militants use the “truce” for their own purposes, and far from being peaceful. The atmosphere in Chechnya is heating up every day.

The unwillingness of the military and political leadership of Russia to live according to the laws, even if it was not declared, but still the war led to the tragic events in Grozny 6 August 1996. (see "The Fall of the Terrible").

OFFICE

In the center of the village of Shali in a three-story building there is a military commander's office under the command of Russian lieutenant colonel Arkadyevich (we called him so by patronymic). The creation of military commandant's offices was an attempt by the command of the federal troops to keep under control the situation in the large settlements of Chechnya.

The chances of a fighter getting out of a scrape alive are directly proportional to his combat experience.


At the beginning of June of this year, a convoy of SOBRovtsy assigned to reinforce the commandant's office, under the protection of armored personnel carriers, advanced from Grozny in the direction of Shali. Passing the last Russian roadblocks near Gremenchuk, our column entered the territory where militants are the absolute masters. From the cautious views of the civilian population on the bazaars, and at times even openly hostile - the thought involuntarily arose in the windows of the houses: “They fell into the gaduchnik”. As it turned out later, the same thought occurred to other guys with whom I rode on armor.

Arriving at the scene, we, with disappointment, were forced to state that the company of the PPS (patrol and inspection service) guarding the commandant's office and consisting of 19-year-old conscripts called up to the police force was suitable only for doing economic work, but not for fighting. Against the background of the PPS policemen who were lazily and stupidly serving the militiamen, the SOBR officers from Arkhangelsk, Orel and Astrakhan were distinguished by their concentration, the ability to quickly find their way around the situation.

That same evening, I spoke with the commander of the special security forces of the city of Orla, Major Peter N., and shared his thoughts on the need for additional work on the engineering equipment of posts around the commandant’s office.

The next day, work was already in full swing in our location. Walking through the posts, we found weaknesses in the defense and right there on the spot eliminated the shortcomings. The barbed wire was practically re-stretched, in the places of the most probable approach of the enemy we installed managed PWS-100, which I found in abundance in the building of the commandant's office.

Our preparations had a very specific justification, since the location of the commandant's office in the center of a large settlement filled with insurgents, in isolation from the main forces, represented a "tidbit" in the event of an attack by the insurgents.

After the signing of the “truce”, in early June, in order to disrupt the session of the Supreme Council of Chechnya, the militants installed ZU-23-2 in the Shali square and pulled large forces together. Having taken firing positions in the houses adjacent to the central square, the militants with the participation of local residents organized an anti-Russian rally.

Concerned about the situation in Shali, the Russian command raised several helicopters from the Khankala airfield for reconnaissance overflight of the village. From the side of those who rallied on the square of the protesters, from the roofs of the houses, the militants opened fire from RPG-7 and small arms at helicopters. Suddenly, shooting began in the immediate vicinity of the wall, which is the border of the territory of the commandant's office. The first thought was: “Attack!” It turned out that the militants who had crept in and opened fire tried to provoke a return fire from the helicopters at the commandant’s office in which we were located.

The personnel of SOBR quickly and without much fuss took firing positions, preparing to repel a possible attack. The militants still did not dare to attack us, since the SOBR are not boys from the PPS and they will fight to the last, and the 166-I Tver brigade, located under Shali a few kilometers away, would help this rich village under the "steamroller". In the afternoon, with the efforts of the commandant in negotiations with local authorities, the situation returned to normal. The militants either left the village, which is unlikely, or went home, hiding their weapons and again becoming “civilians”.

The thesis “war is a cruel thing” does not need to be confirmed, just as it doesn’t need to be confirmed that war has its own cruel laws, one of which reads: “If you want to live, shoot first”.

But however, no matter how cruel these laws are, they are not without justice. The simplicity and fairness of the laws: “Help a friend in need,” “Share last”, “Have compassion for the enemy who dropped the weapon” and other postulates of the war are so obvious that people live in peace life according to them, maybe the principle “ shoot first ”would have to be applied less frequently.
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  1. lechatormosis
    lechatormosis April 8 2013 09: 05 New
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    The prosecutor's office hung like a sword of Damocles over our fighters.
    Another feature of this war. The first shot, according to the law, must be made by the enemy, our soldiers must give warning-continuous nonsense.
    In general, the first Chechen war reminds me of a scene from a crazy house - when human rights activists like KOVALEV moved around our positions and persuaded soldiers and officers to surrender to the Chechens.
    1. igorgar
      igorgar April 8 2013 09: 48 New
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      I agree completely. And Kovalev is Judas, the devil’s lawyer.
      1. KuigoroZHIK
        KuigoroZHIK April 8 2013 10: 05 New
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        and he is not alone. Unfortunately. On the conscience (do they have a conscience?) Of these ... so many lives that the hair stands on end.
        Such as they must be executed in the most cruel way, as a warning to others.
        1. WWW.budanov
          WWW.budanov April 8 2013 11: 48 New
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          Let the guys and the old man stand with you at least in the ranks ... I'll tell you a little, during the first war between Georgia and Abkhazia. The machine was not used (but, ...). On a ship we were taking Georgian refugees out of the fighting through neutral waters. In the evening the coastal Abkhazian artillery "jammed" us - shortages! And at night, (according to my MiG-25, (!) Bombed. BUT, the pilot (God bless him!) Flew so close and fired missiles that they did not have time to "fold" ... The explosions fell on the left and right sides! THIS IS A GUIDE !!!
          (old teacher. Mor. engineer.)
      2. adg76
        adg76 April 8 2013 11: 40 New
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        At that time I was related to human rights organizations. Including with Kovalev he drank vodka. I must say right away that I treated all the affairs of these organizations negatively. I knew Kovalev as a smart person from "TV Reporting", who advocates for human rights and so on, and I also knew him personally, as a person who treats others like cattle. Moreover, to the feds. He and his entourage are people who hate their homeland. Everything is bad with them and only bad ones around. But over the hill, everything is super.
    2. Sirocco
      Sirocco April 8 2013 12: 45 New
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      Sometimes our prosecutor’s office looks like his own among strangers, and a stranger among his own. Especially in those dashing 90 - e
      1. PSih2097
        PSih2097 April 8 2013 19: 48 New
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        Sometimes our prosecutor’s office looks like his own among strangers, and a stranger among his own. Especially in those dashing 90 - e

        well, they need to do the same thing somehow, I’ll bring a case from life - in Part H, a hand-to-hand competition was held (this happens all the time), a Caucasian lost and took second place (he was offended), our military prosecutor’s office aroused criminal case of extremism against judges ... This is such a senility of life ...
      2. AlNikolaich
        AlNikolaich April 9 2013 00: 17 New
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        Quote: Sirocco
        Sometimes our prosecutor’s office looks like his own among strangers, and a stranger among his own. Especially in those dashing 90 - e

        And now??? Sometimes it seems that there people with a bullet in their head rule!
        As the saying goes, the law is that drawbar!
      3. Simon
        Simon April 9 2013 13: 32 New
        +4
        It turns out that the soldiers fought for Russia, and the military prosecutor’s office for what and for whom?
    3. vjhbc
      vjhbc April 8 2013 19: 33 New
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      just recently read an alternative there we got Sudoplatov’s group so kovalev choked on his own shit and put Novodvorskaya on the scrap and I’m what I think is why in your country there are so many who have fought and so few decisive people who are capable of an independent act, why are you all waiting for Stalin and nothing yourself don't do
      Quote: lehatormoz
      The prosecutor's office hung like a sword of Damocles over our fighters.
      Another feature of this war. The first shot, according to the law, must be made by the enemy, our soldiers must give warning-continuous nonsense.
      In general, the first Chechen war reminds me of a scene from a crazy house - when human rights activists like KOVALEV moved around our positions and persuaded soldiers and officers to surrender to the Chechens.
      1. PSih2097
        PSih2097 April 8 2013 19: 50 New
        +1
        I just read an alternative

        Can you tell me a book?
        1. vjhbc
          vjhbc April 9 2013 01: 57 New
          0
          Vladimir Poselyagin First Front Series of 4 books (litmir.net)
          Quote: PSih2097
          Can you tell me a book?
    4. Simon
      Simon April 9 2013 13: 30 New
      +4
      That's it! This sword of Damocles hung only over the soldiers who fought, and the scum that was handed over to our fighters by the units for dollars was still not found and not arrested.
  2. avt
    avt April 8 2013 09: 28 New
    24
    Good article + That's right, the one who shoots first laughs well.
    1. Gari
      Gari April 8 2013 11: 10 New
      +4
      In war as in war
    2. Yarbay
      Yarbay April 8 2013 21: 03 New
      +5
      Quote: avt
      Good article + That's right, the one who shoots first laughs well.

      If he knows where he is shooting and of course, if he gets !!
      And so no use, it’ll do worse for itself !!
      I witnessed how from youth 10-15 did not get not young salag!
  3. Fox
    Fox April 8 2013 09: 50 New
    37
    A friend who had passed Avgan told (he was a platoon officer) how, during a mopping-up, a soldier piled up two women and two children, 2 and 10 years old, in the village, they were sitting in the house, the soldier went out and heard the click of a safety catch, fell and gave a long line .. . put everyone. an automatic ball at a 10-year-old. a special officer arrived, made a report according to which the guy had a deadline (he really wanted to get the captain). the battalion called a friend (Nikolaich), you will go to the raid ... that: -so just came! I gave him to read "investigation", said: do everything right, the special officer will go with you ... they returned from the raid quickly: one was "killed by a spiritual sniper" - an officer. The soldier's case was burned, and the body of the special officer "went home as a hero." In Chechnya, about such examples did not hear.
    1. KuigoroZHIK
      KuigoroZHIK April 8 2013 16: 16 New
      +8
      The words are actually scary, Fox, but we probably will not find another way.
    2. StolzSS
      StolzSS April 8 2013 18: 15 New
      +7
      Everything is true and should be done in such cases. In the raid of such careerists, and then home in zinc.
    3. Yarbay
      Yarbay April 8 2013 21: 04 New
      +5
      Quote: Fox
      the special officer arrived, compiled a report according to which the guy had a term (he really wanted to get the captain).

      stupid, special people are not for this get the title!
      Specialist does not deal with * the investigation *!
      About the reports and certificates of the special police officers and what they say is not a battalion commander, let alone soldiers never know and cannot know !!
      and the so-called * investigation * could never be in the hands of a * battalion commander * for * read * even worse in Soviet times!
      And your friend is lying, not at his battalion commander, he wouldn’t have enough ass to do what he tells !!
      They would have been calculated in half an hour and hung by the eggs!
      The story of your friend, a lie from start to finish!
      1. Zorro1955
        Zorro1955 April 10 2013 08: 54 New
        +2
        What is true is true. I confirm.
      2. воронов
        воронов April 10 2013 11: 42 New
        +5
        "The special officer does not * investigate *!" You do not mess with nonsense and the special officers are engaged, incl. preliminary investigation and verification of emergencies that occurred in the military unit, and at the facilities of their service. As operational, counterintelligence officers, they are officially and in full investigative actions, as the trailblazers of the military prosecutor's office (now the UK), are not involved, but they drank blood from the personnel enough, incl. and for far-fetched motives. Regarding the certificate or the report concocted by the special officer, the unit commander could easily see him, such cases have happened, especially in combat conditions, incl. and in my practice, there were many ways, either the special officer was given a swine to drink, or somehow they themselves got to his documentation, or for some reason he provided information to the unit commander, everything happened in the war. to put it mildly, they were not friendly, especially in the area of ​​hostilities, if the attitude towards the latter (political officers) was slightly contemptuous and humorous, then they frankly hated the special officers, and were naturally afraid, at the opportunity, with regard to especially zealous, they could light up a bullet and undermine , and then blame everything on the vicissitudes of the war, it happened. soldier
        1. Yarbay
          Yarbay April 10 2013 17: 56 New
          +2
          Quote: voronov
          You do not shit rubbish and specialists are engaged in including preliminary investigation and verification of emergency,


          Pore ​​nonsense you, the special agent I repeat the investigation is not involved!
          A preliminary investigation should be carried out if there is a suspicion that this crime is related to counterintelligence, the investigation department of the counterintelligence, and not an operative !!!
          Do not say something, what you have no idea !!
          State of emergency, of course, the special officer does not leave without attention, but there other tasks are solved by the special officer !!

          And what check?)))))))
          good opera you had well held for the cause)))
          and if you got to his documentation, which is almost impossible even after drinking it, then you weren’t a special agent, but a collective farmer!
          1. Yarbay
            Yarbay April 10 2013 18: 18 New
            0
            Quote: voronov
            including and in my practice, there were many ways, either they drank a special agent to a swine state, or somehow they got to his documentation,

            wagging your tongue is not difficult!
            Secret documentation usually lies in the safe in the department, and not in the military unit, and you won’t get there!
            But if you get in, don’t go out by the person you were!
            1. воронов
              воронов April 10 2013 19: 27 New
              +5
              "wagging your tongue is not difficult!
              Secret documentation usually lies in the safe in the department, and not in the military unit, and you won’t get there!
              And if you get there, don't leave the person you were! "[/ Quote]
              You are in awe of the language, an Internet warrior, and I only say what I personally encountered during the 30 summer army service, including participation in the database. Secret documentation must be in the safe, according to the requirements of orders and instructions. But in real databases, to me and not only, often laughing provided from agents spy messages and spy notes drawn on cigarette pack wrappers, stew labels, scraps of paper, pages from fiction books and without any registration in the magazines of spy messages and information from proxies, incoming numbers, without safes and other peaceful crap. There is a big difference between serving in peacetime and in war conditions. At one time, it’s good to see the Specialists who returned to work under what pseudo-work?
              1. Yarbay
                Yarbay April 10 2013 20: 46 New
                0
                Quote: voronov
                You are in awe of the language, an Internet warrior, and I only say what I personally encountered during the 30-year army service, including participation in the database. Secret documentation must be kept in the safe, according to the requirements of orders and instructions. But in real databases, and not only often, they provided me with intelligence messages and intelligence notes drawn from cigarette packs, stew labels, torn pieces of paper, pages from fiction books and without any registration in the magazines of undercover messages and information from proxies, incoming numbers, without safes and other peaceful crap. There is a big difference between service in peacetime and in war conditions. under what pseudo worked?

                You see, dear, you just do not have a clue about the work of the Specialist in wartime, not in peace))))
                Top secret information in peacetime and in wartime, reports, certificates are written directly in the department and nowhere else!
                And the fact that you write about secret messages usually doesn’t carry them with you for drinking and fall into your hands even they don’t understand anything and it has nothing to do with DOCUMENTATION !!
                For this, the Specialist conducts classes with his agents !!
                And here in the comrade’s story it was about reports and documents with an * investigation * of a special agent, who was at the battalion commander and he gave a soldier to read!
                So do not write muinyu 30 year old warrior !!
                You would stand quietly in front of a young lieutenant special officer, and you could not get his intelligence messages !!
                divorced heroes !!
                1. воронов
                  воронов April 10 2013 21: 27 New
                  +2
                  Well, what to take with the poor fellow if you confuse the work of special officers with the work of military intelligence officers, for you to see all the same, that the special officers, that the military intelligence, that the GRU, the SVR. This is called heard the ringing, but you do not know where he is, educate yourself and further on TV and tell your "knowledge" to grandmothers at the entrance laughing
                  1. Yarbay
                    Yarbay April 11 2013 06: 54 New
                    -1
                    Quote: voronov
                    Well, what can you take from the poor fellow if you confuse the work of the Special Forces with the work of military intelligence, for you to see everything is one that the Specialists, that military intelligence, that GRU, SVR.

                    this poor fellow has nothing to take from you!))
                    At the sight of a special officer, he put in his pants, and then a hero of himself build!
                    He obtained secrets from the Specialist))))))))))))))
                    And learn to read Bond))))))))))
                    And where did you see the work of military intelligence of the poor fellow in my previous koment! ??
                    Don’t carry Muinu, and better shut your mouth and don’t talk about what the warrior’s grief is!
                    such as you at the special office in the office as small children cried !!
                    hero of horseradish!
                    they killed a special agent)))
                    1. воронов
                      воронов April 11 2013 10: 32 New
                      +4
                      Quote: Yarbay
                      better shut your mouth

                      Mouth would not hurt to close you, because. you have messed up this site with a bazaar
                2. воронов
                  воронов April 11 2013 11: 06 New
                  0
                  Quote: Yarbay
                  do not write muin

                  And what is "muiña", what language do you speak? wassat
        2. Yarbay
          Yarbay April 10 2013 20: 39 New
          -2
          Quote: voronov
          Such cases, with regard to those who are especially zealous, could also light up the bullet, and undermine, and then blame everything on the vicissitudes of the war, it happened like that.

          Comrade Voronov, the commander of the unit is responsible for the special officer with his own head, especially in wartime !!
          If something would happen to the special police officer, the whole part would be smashed to a hairdryer, and the commander would be sent to Kolyma without panties to find out what a new life is!
          and I would look at such a * daredevil * who would just think about it all the more in Soviet times!
          So do not write nonsense and especially to me !!
          1. воронов
            воронов April 10 2013 21: 36 New
            +4
            "Comrade Voronov, the unit commander is responsible for the special officer with his own head, especially in wartime !!
            If something would happen to the special police officer, the whole part would be smashed to a hairdryer, and the commander would be sent to Kolyma without panties to find out what a new life is!
            and I would look at such a * daredevil * who would just think about it all the more in Soviet times!
            So there is no need to write nonsense, and especially to me !! "They took away two hundred and special officers, but then I did not meet a single battalion commander, regiment commander and division commander after this demoted and convicted unit, and even more so a disbanded unit. do not powder the brains, agent or confidant of a special department
    4. Yarbay
      Yarbay April 8 2013 21: 21 New
      +3
      Quote: Fox
      the special agent will go with you ... they returned quickly from the raid

      I forgot to add, Specialists do not go to raids !!
      In very rare cases, the spy is raided with counterintelligence special forces !!
      1. воронов
        воронов April 10 2013 12: 09 New
        +2
        "In very rare cases, counterintelligence special forces go on a raid for a spy !!"
        Specialists never go to any raids, it’s not their business, and they aren’t fools that they could easily strangle their fate there. Nobody goes to raids for spies, and military intelligence carries out combat reconnaissance (battalion , regimental, divisional, army) and GRU special forces of the General Staff of the Ministry of Defense. There has never been and there is no special forces in counterintelligence. You have smaller films about spies, on the box, see. laughing
        1. Yarbay
          Yarbay April 10 2013 18: 01 New
          0
          Quote: voronov
          Specialists never go to any raids

          You missed my humor)))) I had a view in my deep rear)))
          Thought you don’t need to explain that there are no spies behind the front line!
          You may not know, but usually the special officer who opened the case for the spy is present at the arrest !!
          But this is not the case for everyone for the entire service!
          Quote: voronov
          GRU GSH MO

          wake up a warrior, which GRU MO?))))))))))))))
          Yes, from morning till night I look Shit and sword)))))))))))))))))))
          1. воронов
            воронов April 10 2013 19: 31 New
            +2
            "wake up warrior, what GRU MO?)))))))))))))
            yes from morning till evening I watch Shit and sword)))))))))))))))))) [/ quote] "
            Brigades of special forces were and are related to the GRU of the General Staff of the Ministry of Defense of the USSR (RF)
            1. Yarbay
              Yarbay April 10 2013 20: 48 New
              0
              Quote: voronov
              Brigades of special forces were and are related to the GRU of the General Staff of the Ministry of Defense of the USSR (RF)

              it’s clear, and where do they capture the spy and saboteur !! ????
              I wrote about the special forces of counterintelligence, you have Alpha in my opinion now!
      2. воронов
        воронов April 11 2013 10: 29 New
        0
        Quote: Yarbay
        I forgot to add, Specialists do not go to raids !!

        I apologize, but the special officers recruited you on the fact that you stole a box of stewed meat from the food warehouse and what pseudonym did you choose? wassat
        1. fed2912
          fed2912 April 11 2013 16: 57 New
          +5
          Dear Voronov, did you notice that in the beginning, Mr. Yarbay had the flag of Turkey, then the flag of Azerbaijan? It is possible, in fact, he should have the Ichkeria badge. Simply put, Mr. Yarbay is an ENEMY. It's my opinion.
          1. Yarbay
            Yarbay April 11 2013 18: 12 New
            +1
            Quote: fed2912
            Simply put, Mr. Yarbay is an ENEMY. It's my opinion.

            Mlyn, how did you manage to expose me?
            You are a brilliant counterintelligence!
            Deduction Method ??
            I'm in shock, I'll shoot myself))))
            1. воронов
              воронов April 11 2013 19: 52 New
              +1
              Quote: Yarbay
              I'm in shock, I'll shoot myself))))

              Better choke on, because you don’t know how to handle weapons laughing
              1. Anti
                Anti April 11 2013 23: 55 New
                0
                [voronov]
                Better choke on, because you don’t know how to handle weapons laughing


                it is impossible so about "fighting" hamsters, not solid, be ashamed. winked
          2. воронов
            воронов April 11 2013 19: 49 New
            +4
            Quote: fed2912
            Mr. Yarbay - ENEMY. It's my opinion.

            Yes, no, dear fed2912, real enemies deserve respect, and Yarbay is an ordinary incompetent person, seizing the tops from Wikipedia, with the intelligence of a market merchant, he has no arguments besides hissing hiss, he tries to transfer our polemics to him
    5. xoma58
      xoma58 April 12 2013 15: 00 New
      +1
      That's right, sir .. bad people should go ... know their place.
  4. as3wresdf
    as3wresdf April 8 2013 09: 56 New
    -2
    The base of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of all citizens of the Russian Federation on this site twitlink.ws/baza and the main thing was done as if to search for lost relatives, but here is all the information about each of us: correspondence with friends, addresses, phones, place of work, and the worst thing is even mine nudity photo (though I do not know from where ...). In general, I was very scared - but there is such a function as "hide data" of course I used it and I advise everyone not to hesitate, you never know
    1. KuigoroZHIK
      KuigoroZHIK April 8 2013 10: 06 New
      0
      Administration, this in the ban ...
  5. erased
    erased April 8 2013 09: 56 New
    +5
    The material is familiar, I read for a long time. That's right - a warrior differs from an athlete and even from a soldier in his constant willingness to kill! Do not win, do not beat, do not sort things out, but kill! Immediately and without delay. Such psychological readiness is almost always the result of combat experience and only occasionally special training. Even a well-trained beginner must go through adaptation in combat. Only an untrained or poorly trained fighter always takes more time to adapt. Often, this determines whether he will survive the first battle or not.
  6. andrey903
    andrey903 April 8 2013 10: 05 New
    43
    He took part in the New Year's assault and was repeatedly in Grozny as part of the SOBR and orders were not to take prisoners of men from 14 years old to 60, if possible to leave in the city, the special officers were hiding in the mud and did not blather. Prisoners were released from the filtration camps and they disappeared.
    1. KuigoroZHIK
      KuigoroZHIK April 8 2013 16: 17 New
      +6
      Thank you, Andrey, for your service! drinks
    2. Rider
      Rider April 8 2013 17: 29 New
      +5
      joke Andrey ?!
      such an order could only be verbal
      (native specialists do not sleep).

      and on the New Year’s storm in particular
      then they didn’t take prisoner, not because of some orders,
      but because of universal bitterness.
      but simply - the soldiers took revenge for their friends. Yes, for the fact that the spirits with our prisoners and the peaceful were doing.
      and there was nowhere to take prisoners, filters were not yet created.
      and nobody wanted to mess with them.
      each trip around the City is a lottery.

      74 ombre
    3. don.kryyuger
      don.kryyuger April 8 2013 17: 51 New
      +8
      In 1996, when Lebed was "ending" the war, he saw these cheerful Chechen faces, which, without knowing it, turned out to have won a "victory." How I wanted to kill them all, my teeth were crumbling with anger.
    4. воронов
      воронов April 10 2013 12: 15 New
      0
      Nobody ever gave such orders to prisoners. Therefore, your participation in the storming of Grozny and subsequent participation in the database is doubtful.
  7. Mite27
    Mite27 April 8 2013 10: 42 New
    +5
    In the second, military prosecutors were called jackals.
  8. _KM_
    _KM_ April 8 2013 11: 11 New
    +7
    Not the one who shoots first laughs well, but the one who hits first. Unfortunately, fire training in the army is very bad. DOSAAF closed, shooting sport is plagued in the bud. A man with a gun or shooting is ridiculed and pretends to be a maniac. This brings a guaranteed result - in firing contact, our fighters had to tight.

    I read somewhere (in Soldier of Fortune, I think) that in urban clashes there were small (less than 200 m) combat distances. Therefore, the trajectory of the bullet exceeded the aiming line of the fighters who fired from the sight of the P machine gun, and when shooting at 100-150 m in the head, this gave a guaranteed miss.
  9. Vovka levka
    Vovka levka April 8 2013 11: 32 New
    +3
    Thinking for a long time is unhealthy.
  10. Strey
    Strey April 8 2013 11: 58 New
    37
    Prisoners were released from the filtration camps and they disappeared [/ quote] +1. After the reconnaissance, they dragged 2 prisoners with them and sent them to the osobisty.And on the orders of the osobist they themselves sat down to write where, when and under what circumstances the capture was made. Later we learned that these two were sent to the camp where they were released on all four sides. this case, by unanimous decision of a group of prisoners, we no longer have. Yes, and the writings diminished.
    1. воронов
      воронов April 10 2013 12: 22 New
      +7
      And nobody surrendered to us at all, they spirits-Czechs turned out to be so "brave" warriors that they always left the last cartridge for themselves, or were blown up, we honestly pointed out everything in our reports
  11. Ruslan_F38
    Ruslan_F38 April 8 2013 11: 59 New
    13
    Prosecutors - this is a special tribe of geeks who have been blotted out and nonsense in the end and in a peaceful life, the same thing, I'm not talking about war, as soon as the crusts get - hang yourself all around.
  12. zao74
    zao74 April 8 2013 12: 10 New
    +9
    That will be worth a thousand words when the strength of the hand is important. "V. Tsoi"
  13. Prapor Afonya
    Prapor Afonya April 8 2013 12: 51 New
    12
    Quote: Fox
    A friend who had passed Avgan told (he was a platoon officer) how, during a mopping-up, a soldier piled up two women and two children, 2 and 10 years old, in the village, they were sitting in the house, the soldier went out and heard the click of a safety catch, fell and gave a long line .. . put everyone. an automatic ball at a 10-year-old. a special officer arrived, made a report according to which the guy had a deadline (he really wanted to get the captain). the battalion called a friend (Nikolaich), you will go to the raid ... that: -so just came! I gave him to read "investigation", said: do everything right, the special officer will go with you ... they returned from the raid quickly: one was "killed by a spiritual sniper" - an officer. The soldier's case was burned, and the body of the special officer "went home as a hero." In Chechnya, about such examples did not hear.

    In Afghanistan, they valued soldiers' lives, and in Chiche, some dumb businessmen am
  14. Prapor Afonya
    Prapor Afonya April 8 2013 12: 56 New
    +6
    War is war, and there should not be prosecutors! All human rights defenders should be closer to their soldiers, maybe this is not according to the law, but somehow honestly, rightly!
    1. Ghenxnumx
      Ghenxnumx April 8 2013 17: 47 New
      +7
      The fact of the matter is that following the decree, after the introduction of troops into Grozny, Yeltsin was to declare Chechnya a combat zone or state of emergency in order to suspend civil laws and introduce wartime laws. This has not been done - hence the trials of Budanov and other heroes and the omnipotence of the prosecutor's office in Chechen conflicts.
    2. воронов
      воронов April 10 2013 12: 23 New
      0
      The laws of war apply in war
  15. _KM_
    _KM_ April 8 2013 13: 25 New
    10
    Let the prosecutors be, but investigate the crimes of the enemy. And how our people are killed or tortured, then there are no prosecutors on the horizon ...
  16. ramsi
    ramsi April 8 2013 13: 40 New
    -14
    whatever you may say, but you’re beginning to understand that a civil war can be a pleasure
    1. KuigoroZHIK
      KuigoroZHIK April 8 2013 16: 19 New
      13
      Whatever you do, but you begin to understand - I_d_i_o_t_y will never translate!
    2. Su24
      Su24 April 13 2013 19: 31 New
      -1
      Quote: ramsi
      whatever you may say, but you’re beginning to understand that a civil war can be a pleasure


      You’d better explain your idea, because you might not understand.
  17. EXA-2
    EXA-2 April 8 2013 13: 52 New
    +5
    About 10 years ago I saw a former classmate. Studied up to 3 courses. Then he disappeared. It turns out all this time he was at a hot spot. When talking with him, he constantly moved. I asked why. He answered that it’s a habit and it’s more difficult for the enemy to hit you. He himself is a sniper.
  18. unclevad
    unclevad April 8 2013 14: 43 New
    +5
    Thanks to the author.
  19. Naval
    Naval April 8 2013 16: 08 New
    +9
    The duty of the state to fully protect its troops, whom it sent to kill, and not to hide their heads in the sand and leave them face to face with corrupt shit and reporters paid by the State Department. Respect and glory to the real patriots of Russia.
  20. Landwarrior
    Landwarrior April 8 2013 16: 19 New
    0
    I dreamed here ... You can’t think of a goal as a person. You can imagine a full-sized moving target at the shooting range. Then it’s easier ....
  21. ramsi
    ramsi April 8 2013 17: 25 New
    -4
    Quote: Kuygorozhik
    Whatever you do, but you begin to understand - I_d_i_o_t_y will never translate!

    are you this to me
    1. KuigoroZHIK
      KuigoroZHIK April 9 2013 00: 17 New
      +5
      and we, excuse me, did not drink to the brudershaft to poke into each other.
      It was a comment on your statement.
      1. ramsi
        ramsi April 9 2013 08: 01 New
        -7
        it’s necessary as emotionally, but there, by chance, didn’t your tail get pinched?
        1. KuigoroZHIK
          KuigoroZHIK April 9 2013 15: 00 New
          +1
          you're wrong. Just a site filtering system does not allow you to write otherwise.
          1. ramsi
            ramsi April 9 2013 15: 42 New
            -3
            I can’t object anything, because I don’t see what to object to. Do you have anything to say?
  22. Sokrat
    Sokrat April 8 2013 18: 18 New
    +5
    Now it’s the same there, but only now there is the Chechen prosecutor’s office, the Chechen Ministry of Internal Affairs, the Chechen FSB and the Chechen UFSIN.
    1. AlNikolaich
      AlNikolaich April 9 2013 00: 30 New
      +3
      Quote: Sokrat
      Now it’s the same there, but only now there is the Chechen prosecutor’s office, the Chechen Ministry of Internal Affairs, the Chechen FSB and the Chechen UFSIN.

      Of course, the "Chechen FSB" sounds strange ... "Considering the teip structure of society and tribal ties, it is difficult to imagine how high the level of corruption and nepotism in these structures is ... Although it may now all depend on their loyalty to one bearded" general of the Ministry of Internal Affairs "( I can't do without quotes)! In one word, feudalism!
  23. Sergey_K
    Sergey_K April 8 2013 20: 18 New
    +6
    As half Ukrainian, I sincerely hope that u-b-lu-dki from Ukraine, who fought there for the Czechs, did not return home ...
    1. AlNikolaich
      AlNikolaich April 9 2013 00: 37 New
      +2
      Quote: Sergey_K
      As half Ukrainian, I sincerely hope that u-b-lu-dki from Ukraine, who fought there for the Czechs, did not return home ...

      Eh damn it! Unfortunately, some have returned. And they continue to live! In Chechnya they were called "German caps"! Mostly there were RUKhites. Well, no matter how long the thread does not hang ... I think retribution will still overtake. Not from a person, so from above!
  24. redwar6
    redwar6 April 8 2013 21: 02 New
    +7
    Eternal memory to all the guys who died for this damn oil pipeline ..
  25. family tree
    family tree April 8 2013 23: 37 New
    11
    Son in the fall in the army
    186 height 80 kg weight first category in athletics and second place among programming schools in the district:
    -Pa, you have border guards in a string, I want a green one!
    How can you refuse your son?
    1. jjj
      jjj April 10 2013 00: 28 New
      +1
      In PV, now a contract service
  26. zav
    zav April 9 2013 02: 41 New
    14
    Quote:
    “It is precisely the state of mind, the readiness to be the first to kill the enemy that distinguishes the concepts of“ fighter ”and simply“ serviceman. ”That is why, psychologically unprepared for war, twenty-year-old young Russian soldiers sometimes turned, sadly, into“ cannon fodder. ” to war and is ready to calmly treat the possibility of death. "
    End of quote.

    I recall the statement of Suvorov-Rezun in one of his books: "A good peasant is always a good soldier." Suvorov does not develop this topic, but I thought that the peasant is a good soldier, because he is getting used to the form of blood from his motherhood, watching how livestock and poultry are slaughtered. A peasant lad knows what death is. He has already learned how to knock a pig in a heart with a knife or to tear a lump of a throat. With an unwavering hand. We must bear in mind the question is about those animals that he, perhaps, from childhood fed from his hands and called them by name. And they responded. That is, a peasant guy goes to the army, having a good psychological hardening.
    In this, he has a great handicap compared to conscripts from the city who may know how, but CANNOT chop off the chicken’s head. Computer shooters, with which American psychologists were the first to cultivate the feelings of their soldiers, is a completely different thing. In this regard, the elimination of Russian villages and small towns is very dangerous. Because, along with peasant life, good soldiers go into oblivion.
    1. family tree
      family tree April 9 2013 13: 37 New
      +3
      Well, something like that. To add that he knows the smell of gunpowder, he ran around the forest with a gun, and in winter, he got cold, added gray hair to me, he went away without a dog, the most annoying thing, damn it, while he was looking for it, he was sitting at home and that the mother cooked, ate, the bastard. And I’m running, I’m worried, I forgot Sotik at home, in short, myself fool
  27. Alexey M
    Alexey M April 9 2013 11: 35 New
    +1
    Here we scold ov and they have everything, just a soldier in a war is always right. The pinwheel of the journalists valnul, the soldier filled the floor of the village and nothing silence. That's what they are doing. And they’ll drag us through the courts. The guy in the border guards served two spirits caught. So he was summoned to court two years after the demobilization. The guy said it would be better if the spirits immediately vanished.
  28. _KM_
    _KM_ April 9 2013 12: 05 New
    0
    And how did the guy end?
  29. Old warrior
    Old warrior April 9 2013 15: 40 New
    +1
    I have not been to hot spots, but there were moments that threatened life. I confirm: if you want to stay alive - hit first. I didn’t hit, but I was lucky, hit after, and could not be lucky ... and I would be eternal 20 ...
    As for the prosecutor’s office - so our laws are like this - they’re protecting not a law-abiding citizen, but a criminal ... The Amers and Inglese won’t do anything, even if they’re judged, but they don’t care much ...
  30. kaprall
    kaprall April 9 2013 17: 26 New
    +1
    In principle, the way it is, the fathers of the commanders were crushed from above to prevent casualties among the civilian population. So what? As a result, their soldiers died, and the generals received bonuses. I do not think that the same Americans or NATO would begin to drool. They would gouge: I don’t want a little. And so. Naturally, the service for many is not respected, just to rewind. By the way, before even they didn’t take mentovics from the army without mentoring. But, in the main, the author is right, if you want to live, do not hang out, press the trigger.
    1. family tree
      family tree April 9 2013 18: 33 New
      +3
      Yes sir. As in the forty-fifth, one grandfather told me:
      -I was deeply singing (I don't give a damn about it) to German refugees on the road. If, at least, the reconnaissance station ahead clashed and perishes, I just drove along those who did not leave the road.
  31. kirpich
    kirpich April 9 2013 18: 28 New
    0
    Quote: ramsi
    whatever you may say, but you’re beginning to understand that a civil war can be a pleasure


    Sir masochist ??
    1. ramsi
      ramsi April 10 2013 05: 57 New
      0
      well this is how to wash your hands. Is it clear now?
  32. kirpich
    kirpich April 9 2013 18: 41 New
    0
    Quote: kaprall
    But, in the main, the author is right, you want to live, do not hang out, press the trigger


    ... and do not put witnesses. Or make them not present.
  33. jjj
    jjj April 10 2013 00: 35 New
    +2
    A bit of history to compare. The seventies of the last century. Chinese border. We were required to shoot to kill. Shoot first. Not asking anyone for permission. The prison threatened that if you break through to the border, you miss.
    The ban existed only in two cases: during the mass border crossing by citizens of the PRC and during natural disasters.
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  35. olegff68
    olegff68 April 10 2013 15: 13 New
    +3
    In the 1st Chechenskaya there were a lot of pieces of people who wanted to amass political capital (Berezovsky, etc.), a cheap reputation or a career in soldiers' blood !!! For example, during the storming of the Budyonovsk hospital, the Alfovtsy were given two (!!!) stores - in the expectation that they with such ammunition would not even be able to approach the hospital. And they could !!! And not only to approach, but also to enter, fight off the lower floors and free some of the hostages, though at the cost of the lives of three soldiers !!! It was then that the order to withdraw was sounded, all the media trumpeted that Alfa had failed and that Chernomyrdin "had" to enter the negotiations, who coped with this task "to glory."
  36. Su24
    Su24 April 10 2013 18: 49 New
    0
    In war, the best human qualities are manifested.
    1. Yarbay
      Yarbay April 12 2013 08: 00 New
      0
      Quote: Su24
      In war, the best human qualities are manifested.

      Totally agree!
  37. Su24
    Su24 April 10 2013 18: 51 New
    -1
    In war, the best human qualities are manifested.
  38. воронов
    воронов April 10 2013 18: 58 New
    +2
    Quote: Yarbay

    "Don't say what you have no idea about !!
    ... and the collective farmer!
    "
    I just have some ideas, and the collective farmer is most likely you. Specialists do not arrive, but are constantly in units already at the level of the battalion
    1. Yarbay
      Yarbay April 12 2013 07: 59 New
      -4
      Quote: voronov
      Specialists do not arrive

      and where is it written about * arrival * brake?))))))))))
      you have no idea, and you must have sucked a nipple when you are a special agent, but then you are vomiting!
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  39. воронов
    воронов April 10 2013 19: 34 New
    +1
    Quote: Yarbay
    I witnessed how from youth 10-15 did not get not young salag!

    Shot from slingshots? laughing
  40. воронов
    воронов April 10 2013 22: 37 New
    +2
    Quote: Yarbay
    I wrote about the special forces of counterintelligence, you have Alpha in my opinion now!

    The FSB special forces of the Russian Federation Alpha, is not included in the structure of the GUKR of the FSB
  41. воронов
    воронов April 11 2013 10: 21 New
    +2
    Quote: Yarbay
    hero of horseradish!

    And you are a "hero", judging by your slang, it only looks like a bazaar with women "fought", well, from strength you were a watchman in the zone laughing
  42. Sokrat
    Sokrat April 11 2013 11: 50 New
    -1
    Quote: olegff68
    For example, during the storming of the Budyonovsk hospital, the Alfovtsy were given two (!!!) stores - in the expectation that they with such ammunition would not even be able to approach the hospital. And they could !!! And not only to get closer, but also to enter, fight off the lower floors and free some of the hostages, though at the cost of the lives of three soldiers !!! It was then that the order to withdraw was sounded, all the media trumpeted that Alfa had failed and that Chernomyrdin "had" to enter the negotiations, who coped with this task "to glory."

    What kind of tales about two stores. Chernomyrdin man how many lives saved. Or do you want, as in Beslan, they also issued two stores there?
  43. fed2912
    fed2912 April 11 2013 17: 12 New
    +2
    A good friend of mine in Chechnya received a bullet in the upper left part of his chest ... He broke his collarbone, crushed his scapula ... Internal injuries ... A week later he regained consciousness in a field hospital. Less than an hour later, a special lieutenant came to him with the question: "How could you, a soldier of the Russian Army, allow someone to hit you?" The head of the hospital, the colonel of the medical service, who personally performed the operation on my friend, piece by piece collecting the fragments of bones, if possible, into a single whole, drove this would-be officer, threatening to personally smash his face if he saw him again in the hospital ...
    1. воронов
      воронов April 11 2013 20: 06 New
      0
      [quote = fed2912] the special lieutenant came with the question: "How could you, a soldier of the Russian Army, be allowed to be hit? In Afghanistan, the special officers behaved more dignified, although it happened that sometimes they drank blood unnecessarily. Then there was another, at least before Gorbachev's perestroika, there were no frank attacks on our army and journalists were not allowed to get loose. really acted in concert with the enemies of the Russian army
    2. воронов
      воронов April 11 2013 20: 13 New
      +1
      Quote: fed2912
      the special lieutenant came with the question: "How could you, a soldier of the Russian Army, allow someone to hit you?" The head of the hospital, colonel of the medical service, who personally performed the operation on my friend,

      In Afghanistan, the special forces behaved mostly with dignity, the enemy was common, although it happened that sometimes they didn’t drink blood on business. Then the time was different, before Gorbachev's perestroika, there were no attacks on our army and journalists were not allowed to loose their belts. And in Chechens, especially in First, the special officers stood on a par with the corrupt magazines, "human rights activists" bought by military prosecutors, with all this anti-army pack and really went on about the enemies of our army
  44. deman73
    deman73 April 11 2013 20: 12 New
    0
    An excellent article myself, on the basis of my experience, I could ascribe a couple of additions, but I’ll say one thing for sure who shot the first one and that’s right
  45. Skarte
    Skarte April 12 2013 12: 12 New
    0
    So many young guys were put to them to live and to eat, and to do aunts, but these are now multiplying and Russians are terrorizing Russians in Russian cities (((((How all this got it sad
  46. Skarte
    Skarte April 12 2013 12: 12 New
    +2
    So many young guys were put to them to live and live, and to do an aunt, but these are now multiplying and Russians are terrorizing Russians in Russian cities (((((How all this got it
  47. radio operator
    radio operator April 12 2013 15: 00 New
    +1
    Having mined this passage, which the militants will probably try to use, our group seeped behind the “spirits” in the area of ​​the tram park. We did not have a reason to linger here. The depot of the tram park and the territory adjacent to it were teeming with militants, since Maskhadov’s headquarters were here, and the militants could run into our “goodies” and realize that strangers appeared on their territory.

    He lived next to the trumpet. But as there now - I’m not interested. The city has become not just a stranger, but, perhaps, a hostile one. Even despite the peaceful statements of Ramzan and others. After all, everyone understands that this world is more like a truce, which remains so until certain conditions are met.
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