Three submarines project 949A "Antey" will be upgraded

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The Far Eastern Center for Shipbuilding and Shiprepair (DCSC, part of the United Shipbuilding Corporation) proposes to upgrade until 2020 three nuclear multipurpose submarines of Project 949A Antey (according to NATO's Oscar II classification) of the Pacific fleet (Pacific Fleet), reported on Monday in DCSS.

"To maintain the combat readiness of the Pacific Fleet Defense Center, the DSSS proposes to conclude a contract for the period of the State Armaments Program until 2020, regarding the modernization of three nuclear submarines (XPS) of the 949A project," said the DSSS.

The Center noted that "the implementation of the contract for the Pacific Anteyam could begin in the 2013 year."

As a source at the Russian Defense Ministry told Interfax earlier, "due to the temporary impossibility of repairing the submarine in Vilyuchinsk at the facilities of the Northeast Repair Center, it was decided to send them to repair at the DSSS plants in Primorye."

Submarines of the 949A project are designed to combat carrier-based strike groups. The main armament is P-700 Granit anti-ship missiles (24 missiles), as well as six torpedo tubes with ammunition up to 28 rocket-torpedoes and torpedoes. According to the existing modernization plans, it is planned to replace the Granit missiles with Onyx.

In the period from 1982 to 1996, 11 submarines were built from 18 planned, one of which was built - Kursk - was lost.
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  1. +17
    April 2 2013 12: 07
    Considering that just 3 out of 5 available SSBNs in the Pacific Fleet are currently in reserve (sucks), the initiative is very useful. Hooray!!!
    1. +12
      April 2 2013 12: 09
      Yes, but knowing our abilities, they can stay at the docks for "repair" ...
      Although I support, a robust initiative
      1. +2
        April 2 2013 12: 42
        Every day we read that everything will be repaired, modernized until 2020, but things are still there, they can't build bills for 8 years, "when the sausages say" 93% of meat "I understand that I'm not the only piz - a ball in this world" such an opinion about all these promises.
      2. +4
        April 2 2013 13: 41
        Quote: klimpopov
        Yes, but knowing our abilities, they can stay at the docks for "repair"

        At the same time, they forget that during the modernization of the missile system they will have to deal with the replacement of navigation and sonar systems, etc. etc.
        Example: Under the guise of a medium repair, they sent Voronezh to replace the turbine, and then grabbed the head.
        1. stjrm
          0
          April 4 2013 18: 52
          First Mate. But they should know that after the "average repair" it is practically a new ship.
      3. 755962
        +3
        April 2 2013 15: 46
        Quote: klimpopov
        Yes, but knowing our abilities, they can stay at the docks for "repair" ..


        Moreover, everything in the article is very "evasive" and "florid"
        can start in 2013



        Though guessing on a camomile ...
    2. 0
      April 2 2013 19: 21
      It’s breathtaking from photography, and I can imagine how rockets carry the light of democracy.
    3. Reasonable, 2,3
      0
      April 4 2013 06: 33
      Glory to God. Come on!
  2. +2
    April 2 2013 12: 11
    Powerful sub! After making it, her opportunities will increase! As I understand it, she uses both conventional torpedoes and rocket torpedoes Flurry! I don’t remember where our defense industry stuttered that the Flurry can be modernized in all respects! Interestingly they will get to our Anteys?
  3. +4
    April 2 2013 12: 12
    According to existing modernization plans, it is planned to replace Granit missiles with Onyx.
    if you upgrade it to the "Volcano", and the range of the mass of explosives is much greater. Once it "spits", and a fur-bearing animal will come running to someone ... this white, northern ... wink
    1. Krasnoyarsk
      0
      April 2 2013 12: 34
      immediately under the thermonuclear charge.
    2. +5
      April 2 2013 12: 55
      "Volcanoes" do not release for 15-20 years. They were made in Orenburg. And it is unclear whether it is possible to start production back - how long it will take, what needs to be upgraded and how much it will cost. Shooting at the maximum range of such missiles at enemy ships is possible only with an external control unit. But with him now, too, problems. So "Onyxes" and "Gauges" .... preferably with the greatest use of the usable volume.
      1. +7
        April 2 2013 13: 23
        Quote: Tersky
        if you upgrade it to "Volcano"

        "Volcano", aka P-1000. Surface launch rocket, continuation of the P-500 "Basalt" theme. Submarines of the 1st generation, project 675 MKV were armed. So they have absolutely nothing to do on loaves. And it seems that the State Arms Program until 2020 is rubber. Everyone is still doing what they propose to include in it.
        1. +2
          April 2 2013 14: 11
          By the way, yes, "Basalts" were put on the submarine, but they provided a dry start by surfacing.
        2. +2
          April 2 2013 16: 13
          Quote: Krasnoyarets
          immediately under the thermonuclear charge.

          Quote: starpom
          Shooting at the maximum range of such missiles at enemy ships is possible only with an external control system.

          Quote: starpom
          "Volcano", aka P-1000. Surface-launched missile, continuation of the P-500 theme "Basalt

          all for the plus, But I want "Volcano", 500 kg. BB or 350 kg. nuclear and a range of up to 700 km will impress anyone ... laughing
    3. 0
      April 2 2013 16: 23
      No, it is better to have a universal nuclear submarine, so that it can work on the ground and on ships, a dream also so that by air, but while it is too early to think about it ... -1000 "which is better not to completely remove from all media.
      1. +1
        April 2 2013 16: 37
        Ash ... everything can ...
      2. 0
        April 2 2013 20: 43
        P-700 will also be removed, because have not been released for a long time. Although they will be on Peter the Great for a long time - 7-10 years. What will happen next - we'll see if the Eagles are still being modernized.
  4. +4
    April 2 2013 12: 13
    Right! "Batons" need fresh filling!
  5. mamba
    +2
    April 2 2013 12: 14
    If from sludge - to modernization, then all the more - cheers!
  6. amp
    amp
    +5
    April 2 2013 12: 16
    The performance characteristics of the 3M55 rocket (onyx).

    Length: 8,9 m
    Diameter: 0,7 m
    Wingspan: 1,7 m
    Weight: 3100 kg
    Speed ​​at altitude: 750 m / s (2,6 M)
    Surface Speed: 2 M
    Ramjet engine
    Range:
    along a combined trajectory (the length of the final section is 40 km) - 300 km
    120 km along a low-altitude trajectory [3]
    flight altitude 10-14000m [4]
    Control system:
    On the marching section - inertial
    At the final site - all-weather monopulse active-passive radar-assisted navigation system, with frequency hopping [5]
    Target detection range (in active mode) - at least 50 km [5]
    The maximum target search angle is ± 45 ° [5]
    Interference immunity of the seeker: the developer claims to be high, including from active leading interference, dipole clouds, etc. [5]
    Ready to work from the moment of switching on: no more than 2 min [5]
    Current consumption on a circuit 27 V: no more than 38 A [5]
    Weight RLGSN - 85 kg [5]
    GOS working conditions:
    State of the sea - up to 7 points [5]
    Warhead weight: 250 kg
    Fuel - T-6 kerosene

    On a low-altitude trajectory, it is practically impossible to capture a missile with a radar and shoot it. 250 kg warhead - enough to send any aircraft carrier to the bottom with several missiles.
    The Yankees have 11 aircraft carriers, we have 10 antees. What is the use of their aircraft carriers against us in this situation?
    1. +3
      April 2 2013 13: 35
      Quote: amp
      What is the use of their aircraft carriers against us in this situation?

      Before saying this, read about PLO, air defense, missile defense aircraft carrier groups. And if you indicate that Dpage. up to 300 km, then in a salvo it will be no more than 150-200 km (or even less). And individually, there is no point in launching them.
      1. +1
        April 2 2013 16: 39
        Quote: starpom
        And if you indicate that Dr. up to 300 km, then in a salvo it will be no more than 150-200 km (or even less). And individually, there is no point in launching them.


        How does volley fire affect range? I understand that due to the low-altitude trajectory it will decrease, but because of the volley ...
        Ah yes, as far as I know Onyxes (which are not for export) can beat 400 km ... 300 km is data on yachts.
        1. 0
          April 2 2013 18: 52
          And from where? I, frankly, have never met data on "onyx". Everywhere only about "yahonts". And how much the export version is inferior to the original is a mystery.
          Again, you can see the "brahmos". There, work is underway to create a hypersonic version of the rocket. If we take into account that "brahmos" is the same "onyx", then it would be logical to assume that such work is being carried out on "onyx" for our army, and probably we have more progress than the Indians.
          So, what this rocket is and will represent in the future, we can only guess. Maybe today it is not inferior to "granites" in terms of range. And in speed it surpasses.
          1. 0
            April 2 2013 20: 45
            Quote: tungus
            And from where? I, frankly, have never met data on "onyx".


            I, too, but somewhere on this site, I no longer remember in the news or someone else's comment, they wrote that the onyx allegedly hit a training target at a distance of 400 km.
            Infa is not accurate, just stating what I saw.
  7. +1
    April 2 2013 12: 19
    What to discuss !!!! Need to do!!!!!! Not for nothing striped are afraid of them.
  8. +1
    April 2 2013 12: 21
    common sense! it's high time, though granite looks more powerful than onyx, it would be better if they put something stronger ...
  9. Krasnoyarsk
    +1
    April 2 2013 12: 24
    The hike will be in the east, if the fleet is decided to be restored, and to transfer there "Ustinov"
    1. +11
      April 2 2013 12: 39
      Quote: Krasnoyarets

      Campaign will be a mess in the east,

      And the fact that the arms are reinforced by Southern Military District. Then the mess will be there belay Stop, now the Northern Fleet is being reequipped, so it’s all the same there, although the Iskanders in Kaliningrad put it. winked
      1. +5
        April 2 2013 12: 51
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        And the fact that the armaments are reinforced by the South-East Military District. That the trouble will be there Stop, now the Northern Fleet is re-equipping, then all the same there, although the Iskanders in Kaliningrad put it. Means there

        What a mess. They just press us on all sides. Half the world licks our territory. And here it’s not that he’s armed himself to the teeth will devour to hell.
      2. +1
        April 2 2013 20: 38
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        And the fact that the armaments are reinforced by the South-East Military District. That the trouble will be there Stop, now the Northern Fleet is re-equipping, then all the same there, although the Iskanders in Kaliningrad put it. Means there

        Sasha hi ! As in the riddle with the beard "I am here and not here, I am everywhere and not where, so where am I?" Do not answer. No. ..will laughing laughing laughing
  10. +1
    April 2 2013 12: 25
    The idea is great! Since they started talking about modernization, it means there is an opportunity and this opportunity cannot be missed!
  11. 0
    April 2 2013 12: 36
    We are moving, moving gentlemen - comrades, and even in the right direction ...
  12. 0
    April 2 2013 12: 44
    And will they finish building up to the full set indicated in the article?
  13. +4
    April 2 2013 12: 47
    Title - "Three nuclear submarines WILL be modernized"
    Text
    The Far Eastern Center for Shipbuilding and Ship Repair offers

    Does the author see the difference?
    Let’s get better then. I propose building 15 carrier groups for each fleet
    Write - "Until 2020, the Russian Federation will build 60 aircraft carriers ..."
    1. 0
      April 2 2013 13: 33
      Andrew! Do not panic! Years over 50 will repair ALL!
  14. Yep
    Yep
    0
    April 2 2013 12: 50
    I think the number of missiles can increase .... What do you think?
    1. +3
      April 2 2013 13: 28
      Quote: Jeber
      I think the number of missiles can increase

      In general, they were planned to stack 3 pieces each in a container. The only thing is, did the underwater start work (I don’t know now, but in the 90s this topic died out)
      1. 0
        April 2 2013 19: 00
        Quote: starpom
        In general, they planned to stack them in 3 pieces


        Diameter of "granite" -0.85 m. Length-10 m.
        Diameter "onyx" -0.7 m. Length-8.9 m

        How can you put 3 onyxes into the "granite" mine?
        1. MURANO
          +1
          April 2 2013 20: 26
          Quote: tungus
          How can you put 3 onyxes into the "granite" mine?

          You have the wrong numbers. The diameter of the Granite is larger, plus this is also not the diameter of the container. And on Onyx is already the diameter of the TPK.
          Everything interferes. Either 3 Onyx or 4 Caliber.
  15. +1
    April 2 2013 13: 22
    Thunderstorm aircraft carriers, beautiful Russian submarine cruisers. Real sea warriors. While they go to sea, all sorts of Amer’s floating killers will be afraid to show off.
  16. Hius-124
    +2
    April 2 2013 13: 39
    News is positive! good Negative: why only 3, and not all available? Not enough money? You can borrow from Vasilyeva, and there will also be left for the modernization of the Atlantis! Her pocket is shared with the state! am
    1. +4
      April 2 2013 13: 45
      Quote: Hyus-124
      Can I borrow from Vasilyeva

      +100500 good
      1. Nesvet Nezar
        0
        April 2 2013 14: 07
        Quote: starpom
        Quote: Hyus-124
        Can I borrow from Vasilyeva

        +100500 good


        For reference. Vasilyev’s father’s daughter. Her dad on optical fiber earned money. And there the money is not small. Serdyukov was not friends with ordinary girls. That daughter of Zubkov, then the daughter of a millionaire, moreover, a legal successful and technological ....
  17. 0
    April 2 2013 14: 05
    Quote: starpom
    Quote: Tersky
    if you upgrade it to "Volcano"

    "Volcano", And it seems that the State Arms Program until 2020 is rubber. Everyone is still doing what they propose to include in it.

    If 60% of everything proposed is fulfilled and that will be good. Maybe the latest events around Serdyuk will cool some hot heads and "hands"
  18. avt
    0
    April 2 2013 14: 08
    Now, if EXACTLY the decision on modernization is made, it’s just a plus! good Give them a long-range complex, so they really still eerie will lead. good
  19. 0
    April 2 2013 14: 12
    Ohhhh! This treasured figure 2020will we live?
  20. +9
    April 2 2013 14: 26
    Antey is certainly a unique submarine.
    If they make a solid modernization, the fleet will get stronger.
    “Loafs” are a real threat to any AUG.

    Regarding modernization:
    I’m not a moroman, of course, but in the “kitchen”, in conversations with former colleagues, they talked about the possibility of enhancing the effectiveness of the 949 project.

    One of the options looked like this:
    Standard Granite is converted into a cluster munition with small-sized missiles, about a hundred pieces in each carrier. In total, in two standard baton volleys, we get a swarm of 2400 small and evil bees that will penetrate any missile defense and air defense.
    The task of these bees is simple - to paddle: to break down the Ijes antennas on Arly Berks, pinch various equipment on the ships, to disengage the flight deck on the aircraft carrier.
    Those. blind and stun antennas and radars and other smart heresies. I do not think that it is difficult to develop technically and not so expensive.
    After that, the second Baton slowly enters the firing position and, with two salvos, releases standard ammunition for the old, but powerful Granites, which there is no one to stop ...
    Good buy, aug, good buy ...

    Of course, I do not pretend to be a clever idea, I am a hunter, this is one of many options that I just remembered.
    I just really wanted the wonderful Anthei to get powerful and modern weapons after modernization, and that the anchans would hiccup and fade at the mere mention of the word "Baton".
    You can’t simply write off such ships.

    Have a good iron, seaman and GOOD LUCK!
    drinks
    1. 0
      April 2 2013 18: 18
      volleys of Granites and so pierced missile defense of any possible AUG. I think that the modernization should concern the combat stability of the SSGNRs: reducing noise, increasing the range of the SAC in all operating modes, the possibility of delivery and evacuation of DRGs. Then the end will justify the means!
      1. -2
        April 2 2013 22: 24
        Quote: sas78
        volleys of Granites and so pierced missile defense of any possible AUG.

        True chtol, when is this?
    2. 0
      April 3 2013 06: 29
      The idea is original, yesterday + put it right away, and then figured out - the mass of the warhead "Granite" - 750 kg, that is. if it contains about 100 submunitions. each of them will weigh a maximum of 65 kilograms, this weight includes the guidance system, the engine and something remains on the explosive, it turns out not thickly. Figuratively speaking, it’s like smacking a bear with a small shot, at best you knock out your eyes or scratch your nose, but sweat will break you instantly and mercilessly. I would use the "Caliber" as the main weapon (96 missiles, including the possibility of using a range of up to 2,5 thousand km), and as an option, I would leave the possibility of using "Granites", all the same, when attacking AB, the mass has great importance.
      1. stjrm
        0
        April 4 2013 18: 43
        So return YABCh to "granite" - that's all ..... Target hit guarantee 100% .... wink
  21. 0
    April 2 2013 15: 31
    I read this news yesterday, but as it were on April 1, it leads to sad thoughts
    1. +4
      April 2 2013 15: 55
      Quote: vadson
      but it was like April 1

      Of course, not the topic (may the moderator forgive me), but yesterday I was seduced by this topic:
      "What a twist!

      Starting this year, Belarus and Kazakhstan will join the Russian Federation!

      A joint statement by Lukashenko and Nazarbayev on the accession of Belarus and Kazakhstan to Russia became unexpected. They made such a decision at a joint meeting when discussing the issue of the future Eurasian Union. Recall that on November 18, 2011, the leaders of Russia, Belarus and Kazakhstan signed a declaration on Eurasian integration. Now this document is no longer needed.

      According to Nursultan Nazarbayev, the creation of a new state formation requires large material resources: it is necessary to coordinate all documents, vote for a new constitution; while joining Russia will have the same effect, but at a lower cost.

      Lukashenko noted that this is only the beginning of the reunification of the former USSR, which could result in joining the new Union of Afghanistan, Pakistan and even India, not to mention a number of European countries.

      The statements of Lukashenko and Nazarbayev were considered by Vladimir Putin, who already in the morning of April 1, 2013 ordered to prepare all the necessary documents for the admission of Belarus and Kazakhstan as autonomous republics to the Russian Federation. "
  22. 0
    April 2 2013 16: 57
    And explain to me someone for what kind of goblin to change Granite with a launch range of 500-600 km to Onyx with a range of 300 km? This is about another 5-6 hours of the submarine's progress at maximum underwater speed. What is the point of such modernization? At the very least, I can understand when they planned to put "Caliber" (Club) on them. Here the goal is clear - a universal missile nuclear submarine with the ability to strike both on the ground and on land. But what is the point in upgrading to get the same thing, but with a reduced combat potential?
    1. MURANO
      0
      April 2 2013 17: 27
      Quote: abc_alex
      At the very least, I can understand when they planned to put "Caliber" (Club) on them. Here the goal is clear - a universal missile nuclear submarine with the possibility of strikes on the ground.

      Well, this is the main goal of modernization.
    2. 0
      April 2 2013 21: 35
      I heard out of the corner of my ear that it would be possible to use both "Onyx" and "Caliber". why such a variety I do not undertake to judge - for what I bought for that and sell
      1. MURANO
        0
        April 2 2013 21: 49
        Quote: mark1
        will be able to use both "Onyx" and "Caliber".

        That's right. Considering that in our fleet the problem with the impact on the coast is preferable to the Caliber option.
  23. 0
    April 2 2013 17: 30
    Guys, I'm glad for your enthusiasm ... but under "what patron" should I modernize it? changing GRANITE to brahmos is not even funny. such a modernist makes you want to cry
  24. saryman
    0
    April 2 2013 17: 55
    In the photo K-186 "Omsk", bears the name of his native city))))
  25. Rainman69
    0
    April 2 2013 18: 31
    All will be done on time !! This makes me happy!!
  26. 0
    April 3 2013 22: 32
    The news is good, but why until 2020? Why so long

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