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Combat power of militant DPRK in photos

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The Korea Central Telegraph Agency issued images of military exercises, training of soldiers and of course Supreme Leader Kim Jong-un checking and inspiring troops. The UN Security Council ponders how likely the start of a nuclear war on the Korean Peninsula is, the world wonders how realistic the combat power of the militant North Korea is as a whole.
I suggest that you yourself think about the reality of the North Korean threats by looking at a small selection of photos that have flown around the world:




Artillery drills, 14 March 2013. (© Reuters / KCNA)



Artillery drills in the western sector of the front, 14 March 2013. (© Reuters / KCNA)



Kim Jong-un talks with soldiers who take part in anti-amphibious exercises, 25 March 2013. (© Reuters / KCNA)



North Korean leader Kim Jong-un looks at the latest developed combat and technical equipment assembled at the 1501 site by the People's Army Bash, March 24 2013. (© Reuters / KCNA)



Artillery drills, 14 March 2013. (© Reuters / KCNA)



North Korean soldiers participate in military exercises, 11 March 2013. (© Reuters / KCNA)



Korean people's army conducts military exercises.



North Korean leader Kim Jong Un monitors anti-amphibious exercises in the eastern coastal zone, 25 March 2013. (© Reuters / KCNA)



North Korean members of the Workers 'and Peasants' Red Guards participate in military training, 13 March 2013. (© Reuters / KCNA)



Kim Jong-un checks the long-range artillery unit of 641 object of the Korean People’s Army. (© KNS / AFP / Getty Images)



Kim Jong-un and the officers are watching from the hill for the flight and the teachings of parachutists at the 630 object of the Korean People’s Army. (© Reuters / KCNA)



North Korean artillery, designed to attack the islands of South Korea Daeyeonpyeong and Pennendo, participates in military exercises to establish combat capabilities in the western sector of the front. (© Reuters / KCNA)



Kim Jong-un is heading to the island of Volnai in the western sector of North Korea near the disputed sea border with South Korea. (© KNS / AFP / Getty Images)



Kim Jong-eun greets troops on the 641 long-range artillery unit during a visit to front-line military units near the border island of Pennendo. Kim called on front-line troops to be in a state of maximum alert. The state newspaper of Pyongyang warned of the threat of abolishing the 1953 truce of the year, which put an end to the Korean War. (© AP Photo / KCNA via KNS)



Kim Jong-un leaves the island of the defense detachment of the wave after an inspection in the western sector of North Korea. (© KNS / AFP / Getty Images)



North Korean soldiers participate in military exercises, 20 March 2013. (© Reuters / KCNA)



Women from an artillery detachment move a rocket launcher during anti-amphibious exercises on the east coast of North Korea, 25 March 2013. (© KCNA VIA KNS / AFP / Getty Images)



Soldiers of the Korean People’s Army are taking part in anti-airborne exercises on the east coast, 25 March 2013. (© Reuters / KCNA)



Anti-airborne exercises on the east coast, 25 March, 2013. (© Reuters / KCNA)



Soldiers of the Korean People’s Army take part in military exercises, March 6 2013. (© KNS / AFP / Getty Images)



Kim Jong-un looks at the combat equipment developed at the 1501 facility of the Korean Peoples Army, 24 March 2013. (© Reuters / KCNA)



North Korean soldiers taking part in military exercises. (© Reuters / KCNA)



Kim Jong Un looks through binoculars during a visit to the defense islands of Jangjae and Mu, southwest of Pyongyang, March 7 2013. (© Reuters / KCNA)
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  1. fzr1000
    fzr1000 April 4 2013 08: 24
    +9
    The weapons, of course, are quite outdated, hi 60-70th, and the rocket mortars are similar to the German ones, but Eun is going to crush the quantity. During breaks between air raids, he will munch from all the barrels. A la Normandy 1944. But the Germans lost with such tactics, so something else will have to oppose the enemy.
    1. djon3volta
      djon3volta April 4 2013 09: 11
      +8
      if South Korea will not be helped by amers, the DPRK will conquer them without problems. The conclusion is that South Korea is weaker than the DPRK.
      1. Hon
        Hon April 4 2013 09: 54
        16
        The military budget is almost $ 30 billion, the equipment is the most modern. In the event of war, air superiority will be complete, due to the backwardness of the DPRK aviation and outdated air defense systems. The DPRK army is twice as large as the army of the Republic of Kazakhstan, but the southerners have a greater mobilization reserve. The soldiers are well trained, the army is constantly conducting exercises and preparing for war.
        1. smprofi
          smprofi April 4 2013 14: 05
          +9
          the soldiers of South Korea really have serious training. his father taught at the Academy and had students from Vietnam, colonel-lieutenant colonels who went through the war with gringos and hunhuzes. so, the Vietnamese spoke very respectfully of the South Koreans, in particular the White Horse division (White Horse, fought in Vietnam): a smart and cunning opponent, well suited for war in the jungle, with good American weapons.
        2. tuts
          tuts April 4 2013 18: 59
          +3
          The question is whether South Korea is ready for a protracted war
          1. BruderV
            BruderV April 4 2013 20: 35
            +1
            Quote: tots
            The question is whether South Korea is ready for a protracted war

            The question is whether the DPRK is ready at all. In a couple of months, cannibalism will begin. If in peacetime, rice on coupons.
            1. Misantrop
              Misantrop April 4 2013 21: 58
              +3
              Quote: BruderV
              The question is whether the DPRK is ready at all. In a couple of months, cannibalism will begin. If in peacetime, rice on coupons.

              Debatable. There are probably gigantic-sized warehouses (including food). So in the event of a global war, the North Koreans will probably be the last to feel REAL HUNGER
              1. Misantrop
                Misantrop April 5 2013 08: 49
                +2
                Interestingly, the "democrats" who instructed the minuses themselves ever lived under the rationing system? Real, and not the one that their leaders scare from the screens of zombie boxes? When there is no need to rush to the shops in search of at least something edible and cheaper, and in the nearest place of residence (to which it is attached), you can always buy a full set of essential goods and at a fixed price. And in the free sale the surplus from the brought is laid out. Which is also there, since the locals are quite satisfied with what they have on the cards, so the shelves are not empty.
                By the way, everyone is serving in the DPRK, so the food mob is simply obliged to be on ALL as well (as it will stand out on everyone, without democratic theft and speculation). Although, ... what can be convinced of those who without power theft and fraud close to the authorities of the crooks of life do not imagine ... request
        3. Gluxar_
          Gluxar_ April 5 2013 03: 38
          +2
          Quote: Hon
          The military budget is almost $ 30 billion, the equipment is the most modern. In the event of war, air superiority will be complete, due to the backwardness of the DPRK aviation and outdated air defense systems. The DPRK army is twice as large as the army of the Republic of Kazakhstan, but the southerners have a greater mobilization reserve. The soldiers are well trained, the army is constantly conducting exercises and preparing for war.

          At purchasing power parity, military budgets are comparable. The moral readiness for war among the northerners exceeds the mood of the southerners by an order of magnitude. The resilience of economies to hostilities is not comparable, because the DPRK has been living in a state of war for 60 years and is preparing for it. The same applies to the population. Therefore, simply comparing the mobilization resource is not correct. If the DPRK can really put up to 7kk fighters under arms, equip them according to the state, then South Korea has only a hypothetical advantage because the population is not ready to fight only with a machine gun. Comparing the Air Force and Air Defense is difficult and its composition is not known reliably. The likelihood of saturation with Chinese counterparts of the S-300 is extremely high. In this case, the most populated areas of the Republic of Kazakhstan are in the radius of action of the DPRK, and this actually means the defeat in the war of the United States and its allies.
          Moreover, the presence of nuclear devices or nuclear weapons nullifies large-scale operations of the allies. And this will lead to the leveling of the technological level of the belligerents, because the classical scenario of a total preponderance of "forces and means" in any particular sector of the front will not be able to collect. And a war on a wide front means huge losses, for which the DPRK soldiers are better prepared.
          With any development of the military situation, Seoul is guaranteed to receive unacceptable damage and regardless of how the offensive of the DPRK develops, their rear areas will be closed for many months. It will not be possible to strike at them that will crush the DPRK; in fact, there is not even a guarantee of the survival of US aviation over the fortified territory of the DPRK. And this means that in fact a tangible blow to the DPRK can be delivered only by cruise missiles, the limit of which is limited. And even if you collect all of them from all fleets and bases, they will not be enough to seriously damage the DPRK infrastructure. In this case, the likelihood of a catastrophic humanitarian situation is equally probable in both the DPRK and the Republic of Kazakhstan, but the first is morally more resistant to this. And it is obvious that such a situation will lead to the need to find an acceptable political solution, which eliminates the possibility of unconditional defeat of the DPRK.
          What is the result, and so it is clear. The US is losing the region to China.
      2. Rubik
        Rubik April 4 2013 14: 57
        +6
        If DPRK does not help China and Russia, then there is no chance. In the 50s they could not win, but in the 50s they were stronger, while the southerners, on the contrary, were weaker. Now the southerners are not the same then, then they were a poor peasant country, and now it is a rich industrial power armed with more modern American weapons.
        1. Nik One
          Nik One April 4 2013 16: 42
          +3
          Neither Russia nor China are going to help the DPRK.
          1. Skuto
            Skuto April 4 2013 18: 43
            +1
            How to win beautifully, less costly, and without invading North Korea.
            1. To provoke the DPRK Armed Forces to start the invasion of South Korea (it is not difficult to arrange a fire in a powder cellar).
            2. To retreat and defend, the more forces to cross the border from the north, the better. Perhaps even retreat from Seoul.
            What will happen: South Korea will be considered a victim of aggression, North Korea - an aggressor in the eyes of the world community. In this situation, the Russian Federation will not openly act on the side of the aggressor, so as not to ultimately undermine its international authority. The PRC, like the USSR in its time with Iraq, will have to condemn the aggressor.

            Further, the high command of the DPRK is already openly beginning to celebrate the victory, but the simple soldiers themselves will see firsthand the realities of the "rotten Western world." The fermentation of minds begins. Then the forces of the United States and the Republic of Kazakhstan begin to strike at the DPRK’s extended communications: the command loses touch with the advanced detachments. There is complete disorganization.

            Now begins the counterattack with all the power of the combined forces. The DPRK forces are fleeing, since it is one thing to guard the homeland in the trenches and it is another to be an aggressor in a hostile country, but living a hundredfold better.
            Persistent air strikes sow death and panic, a large number of demilitarized zones blown up in minefields. Together with the North Koreans, RK agitators enter the territory of the DPRK.

            The front is stabilizing where it was before aggression. This is where the revolution begins.
            1. Odysseus
              Odysseus April 4 2013 19: 35
              +5
              Quote: Skuto

              How to win beautifully, less costly, and without invading North Korea.
              1. To provoke the DPRK Armed Forces to start the invasion of South Korea (it is not difficult to arrange a fire in a powder cellar).
              2. To retreat and defend, the more forces to cross the border from the north, the better. Perhaps even retreat from Seoul.
              What will happen: South Korea will be considered a victim of aggression, North Korea - an aggressor in the eyes of the world community. In this situation, the Russian Federation will not openly act on the side of the aggressor, so as not to ultimately undermine its international authority. The PRC, like the USSR in its time with Iraq, will have to condemn the aggressor.

              Not bad, but not working. It is impossible to provoke DPRK to aggression. They are not fools to sign their own death sentence. Their warlike rhetoric is primarily directed inward, and not outside the country.
              The whole point of the situation is that the United States and South Caucasus can formally win the war by bombing the DPRK in the Stone Age, but at the same time, the DPRK manages to destroy Seoul with the help of TR, OTR, which makes sense of the war from the point of view of the South Caucasus.
              That is, speaking in a chess language, a stalemate was created here.
              To beat such a situation, however, is possible indefinitely.
              1. Skuto
                Skuto April 5 2013 02: 21
                +1
                Victory will be in the minds of North Korean soldiers. they will experience a culture shock from the standard of living in South Korea, somewhat akin to the one experienced by the Red Army in 1945 in Europe, only the situation will be worse: here the war is not going to win, and the people are not alien, but their own in essence.
                Seoul’s loss is a major blow, but worth the bargain for the prospect of a united Korea. My fabrications are just a geopolitical game no more. Minuses? Minus))) I'm used to say what I think, and not follow the rating.

                Aggression is not difficult to unleash. Start the first pile on the counterpart)))
            2. BruderV
              BruderV April 4 2013 20: 49
              +1
              Quote: Skuto
              Perhaps even retreat from Seoul

              What the hell? I was thinking like that in the 9th probably in the distant nineties. The script is better. A war is declared and the South Caucasus, with complete dominance in the air, is bombarded with cluster bombs marching in orderly rows of northerners. What will survive snipers with the help of thermal imaging sights, while the northerners can not even understand where the fire is being fired from, on the very first night their losses will be such that any Vietnam will seem like a kindergarten. The only thing that the DPRK can count on is massive shelling of the first two three days of the war, until the positions are crushed.
              Quote: Odyssey
              formally win the war by bombing the DPRK in the Stone Age, but at the same time the DPRK manages to destroy Seoul with the help of TR, OTR

              Nobody can explain to me where the rockets will start to fly to Seoul. From any point in the DPRK, a launch missile will be hit by anyone ... F-16 is not like a missile defense system.
              1. Odysseus
                Odysseus April 4 2013 21: 31
                +2
                Quote: BruderV
                Nobody can explain to me where the rockets will start to fly to Seoul. From any point in the DPRK, a launch missile will be hit by anyone ... F-16 is not like a missile defense system.

                I already told you once that F-16s do not shoot down OTR. And even cited an article on the combat use of the Patriots in Iraq.
                http://pentagonus.ru/publ/109-1-0-140
                For the Patriot Pak-2 group deployed in the South Caucasus, it is realistic to intercept 70-75% of the DPRK missiles. The remaining is enough.
                Moreover, Seoul is in the reach of direct artillery fire. Of course, extremely inaccurate, but still.
                1. BruderV
                  BruderV April 4 2013 21: 41
                  0
                  Quote: Odyssey
                  I already told you once that F-16s don't shoot down OTR

                  No, I don’t remember. Once again, you can find out why? Is this a highly maneuverable hypersonic target? And here you have the distant 2007th year http://lenta.ru/news/2007/12/05/intercept/
                  1. Odysseus
                    Odysseus April 4 2013 22: 31
                    -1
                    Quote: BruderV
                    Once again, you can find out why?

                    Because the flight time is 3-5 minutes and it flies into the stratosphere, and you can destroy warheads too.
                    In reality, even the usual RC for a fighter is a very difficult goal, but there’s no need to talk about OTR.
                    Quote: BruderV
                    http://lenta.ru/news/2007/12/05/intercept/

                    It is possible in ideal conditions with a specially equipped aircraft to destroy one missile and it is possible. But from this experience to the interception of all DPRK missiles, the distance is enormous.
                    By the way, what kind of rocket is Orion? I know the plane, I heard about the spaceship, but hu from the Orion rocket?
                    1. BruderV
                      BruderV April 4 2013 23: 18
                      0
                      Quote: Odyssey
                      By the way, what kind of rocket is Orion?

                      Most likely this one, but I don’t know for sure
                      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bold_Orion
                      1. BruderV
                        BruderV April 4 2013 23: 27
                        0
                        Quote: BruderV
                        Most likely this one, but I don’t know for surehttp: //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bold_Orion

                        But I’m not lying, it was a high-altitude research rocket, not a ballistic one. I don’t know anything about her, the usual training goal for low money, as is the case in such cases.
              2. Gluxar_
                Gluxar_ April 5 2013 03: 53
                0
                Quote: BruderV
                What the hell? I was thinking like that in the 9th probably in the distant nineties. The script is better. A war is declared and the South Caucasus, with complete dominance in the air, is bombarded with cluster bombs marching in orderly rows of northerners. What will survive snipers with the help of thermal imaging sights, while the northerners can not even understand where the fire is being fired from, on the very first night their losses will be such that any Vietnam will seem like a kindergarten. The only thing that the DPRK can count on is massive shelling of the first two three days of the war, until the positions are crushed.

                The situation is somewhat different. When the DPRK inflicts a missile and artillery attack on the positions of the Republic of Kazakhstan and the capital Seoul, the losses will be so shocking that the political leadership will simply lose control of the situation. When the artillery works in tens of thousands of barrels, counter-battery work loses its meaning, they will cover it again. Here, who was the first to shoot back. and the advantage here is on the DPRK side. China is a longtime ally of the DPRK and its air defense systems in the conflict zone will show themselves. The RK does not have any significant superiority in aviation, because the theater of operations is quite limited and the concentration of air defense forces there is super dense. Even old systems with such a concentration will not give a chance to 250 RK aircraft to survive. Moreover, the DPRK was preparing to confront not only the Republic of Kazakhstan, but also the United States and Japan combined. And since they take such drastic steps, they consider that they have completed their homework.
                As a result, both Kazakhstan and the United States will suffer such colossal losses on the second day that they will be forced to enter into negotiations and bargain for peace.
          2. tuts
            tuts April 4 2013 19: 00
            0
            they’ll definitely refuse to help with food
        2. AlNikolaich
          AlNikolaich April 4 2013 20: 27
          +4
          Quote: Rubik
          because in 50 they were stronger, and southerners, on the contrary, were weaker.

          So in the 50 years of South Korea, it would not have happened if the mattress had not harnessed for it! And noted with southerners in the northern territories the use of chemical and biological weapons, the mass destruction of people and atrocities! Hence the hatred of the DPRK citizens for the amers and southerners!
          Now everyone is repeating about the odious policy of the DPRK. And if you think about it, when the threat of annihilation hangs over the people of 60 for years, you will do anything to protect yourself! And this is the fault of the Americans! There would now be a single DPRK without the artificially created, puppet southern neighbor and there would not be such problems! An example of this is Vietnam!
        3. nerd.su
          nerd.su April 4 2013 21: 26
          0
          Quote: Rubik
          If DPRK does not help China and Russia, then there is no chance

          If the USA does not help South Korea, then it will last no more than a month ... People win, not weapons.
          1. BruderV
            BruderV April 4 2013 21: 31
            +2
            Quote: bot.su
            If the USA does not help South Korea, then it will last no more than a month

            On the calculator counted or in a column? laughing
            1. nerd.su
              nerd.su April 7 2013 08: 23
              0
              Quote: BruderV
              On the calculator counted or in a column?

              And what, do not use accounts in your stall? smile
              There is such a method, an analogy is called. I understand that for those who are only familiar with the "calculator" and the calculation in a column, it is difficult to think abstractly, but I will try to explain.
              In 1950, it took the northerners about a month and a half to capture 90% of the territory of South Korea. At the same time, the strength of the DPRK army was even slightly less than the Republic of Kazakhstan. True, there was an advantage in aviation and armored vehicles. Now the high-quality side of the DPRK’s equipment may be slightly inferior to South Korea, but the size of the army, especially special forces, as well as almost 200 defense enterprises built underground, guarantee North Korea’s victory with the non-intervention of third forces.
          2. Gluxar_
            Gluxar_ April 5 2013 03: 57
            -1
            Quote: bot.su
            If the USA does not help South Korea, then it will last no more than a month ... People win, not weapons.

            Where is the month from? After the first strike, the government will become incompetent. Democracies are unstable to equivalent losses, they can only fight far from their economic centers. France won Germany, too, in the 39th, was about to roll out ... but it did not work out. It will be the same here.
        4. kubanec
          kubanec April 5 2013 22: 41
          0
          in the 50s, the North Koreans fought not only with the southerners but also with the UN troops, led by the United States and almost threw them into the sea !!!!!! the main thing is still fighting spirit. the northerners have nothing to lose, but the southerners will have to forget the sweet life ...
    2. self-propelled
      self-propelled April 4 2013 09: 42
      12
      North Korean leader Kim Jong-un looks at the latest developed combat and technical equipment assembled at the 1501 facility by the Korean People’s Army, 24 March 2013

      resembles a piano laughing and also touches the antenna. looks like a props request isn't it window dressing?
      But seriously, no matter what, the DPRK army is combat-ready. and even if the weapons are far from the most modern ... after all, it is not technology that wins, but man
      1. leon-iv
        leon-iv April 4 2013 09: 47
        +3
        still touches the antenna
        The usual anter with a high degree of probability from the waffle.
        1. Thunderbolt
          Thunderbolt April 4 2013 17: 50
          +2
          Quote: self-propelled
          resembles a piano
          Each country has its own peculiarities. In the Russian Federation - "black suitcase", in the DPRK - "black piano"))) By the way, did you notice the wheels? ...... mobile wink
          1. PARTISAN
            PARTISAN April 4 2013 19: 24
            +2
            Have you noticed the big red button on the mouse? And the fact that the wire is plugged into a socket on a reel without a plug is also not noticed?
            1. mejik
              mejik April 4 2013 20: 46
              0
              this is not a cape ... trackball
            2. Thunderbolt
              Thunderbolt April 5 2013 01: 04
              +1
              Quote: PARTISAN
              Have you noticed the big red button on the mouse?
              Yeah ...... If only they provided a protective casing, otherwise some bumblebee will sit on this "button" and that's it --- no more North America request
          2. botur
            botur April 4 2013 21: 45
            +1
            I play the piano! lol good
          3. Ruslan67
            Ruslan67 April 5 2013 05: 39
            +2
            Quote: Thunderbolt
            ", in the DPRK -" black piano "))

            Alexey hi Made on the basis of the piano. Red October. Efficiency depends on the presence of a musical ear for the operator. laughing
      2. PiP
        PiP April 4 2013 11: 40
        +4
        Quote: self-propelled
        isn't it window dressing?

        Definitely window dressing ("compact parabolic" (c) Genius). There are a lot of pictures and videos with outdated weapons. Everything looks like a production. Are women and men and pensioners in the same ranks? Men and women run out of the same barracks - do they have a common barracks? Painfully similar to reservists at the training camp, in this case the old weapons are justified. I'm afraid no one really saw the DPRK army
        1. PiP
          PiP April 4 2013 16: 16
          +2
          ss
          I forgot to add about this "masquerade" on the photos - pay attention to the three fighters in the boat with Eun'om. Does anyone really not notice the difference with other fighters from the entire collection of photos? What is this screw shop they have?
          1. self-propelled
            self-propelled April 4 2013 16: 31
            +5
            Quote: PiP
            Really nobody notices differences with other fighters from all selection of photos? What is their screw shop?

            The protection of the leader is armed with a modernized Kalashnikov assault rifle. A distinctive feature of the "Korean Kalashnikov" is a large auger store.
            1. PiP
              PiP April 4 2013 16: 40
              +1
              Is the store capacity known? The trunk is probably thicker. Rate of fire, range, ammunition? WHO KNOWS? And there are more than a few such surprises.
      3. not good
        not good April 4 2013 12: 44
        +2
        But how big laughing Red button
      4. Delta
        Delta April 4 2013 16: 07
        +1
        Quote: self-propelled
        resembles a piano

        no, it’s Eun replenishes the account in I Box
      5. tuts
        tuts April 4 2013 19: 03
        +1
        about mouse

        http://www.nix.ru/autocatalog/mouse_logitech/Logitech_TrackMan_Marble_USB_4btn_9
        10000808_80513.html

        OS Support: Windows 8, Windows 7, Windows Vista, Windows XP, MAC OS X10.4 or later
    3. ramzes1776
      ramzes1776 April 4 2013 21: 32
      +1
      The North Korean army is strong with its special forces:
      The number of special forces of the Korean People’s Army is estimated to range from 88 (the magazine "Foreign Military Review") to 000 (the military department of South Korea) military personnel. Five special tasks are entrusted to special forces:

      conducting reconnaissance and sabotage operations;
      operations in conjunction with the regular armed forces of the KPA;
      the organization of a “second front” in the rear of the army of South Korea and, ultimately, the achievement of strategic superiority;
      counteraction to special operations of military intelligence of the USA and South Korea in the rear areas of the DPRK;
      the fight against anti-government forces within the country and ensuring internal security. [1]

      Structurally, KPA special forces are divided into three categories: light infantry (takes part in combat operations conducted together with company or battalion level units), reconnaissance (as part of separate teams they search for intelligence or targeted information) and sniper units (tasks are the same as the light infantry, but carried out by separate teams). Organizational special forces are represented by 22 (possibly 23) brigades (including two naval landing sniper brigades, one on the east coast and the other on the west coast). The special forces also include 18 separate battalions (17 reconnaissance, including naval and air force reconnaissance battalions, and 1 airborne assault).
      The special forces are led by the two main structures of the DPRK Ministry of People’s Armed Forces: the Special Forces Command Directorate (central governing structure) and the Intelligence Directorate (the primary intelligence structure that carries out the planning of "penetration operations" and the management of the undercover apparatus).
  2. misljachii
    misljachii April 4 2013 08: 43
    +2
    In the photographs of many soldiers, various badges hang, it’s interesting, they just hung them, or do you really need to earn them with your sweat and work?
    1. fartfraer
      fartfraer April 4 2013 11: 04
      +2
      they have constant military operations (lately it wasn’t heard, but before quite often clashes took place). I hope it’s clear in this case where the rewards come from?)
      1. Delta
        Delta April 4 2013 13: 49
        +1
        Quote: fartfraer
        they have constant military operations (lately it wasn’t heard, but before quite often clashes took place). I hope it’s clear in this case where the rewards come from?)

        earlier - when? if in the 50s, then it’s cool for a long time that their soldiers are ordinary soldiers))))
        1. fartfraer
          fartfraer April 5 2013 09: 31
          -1
          yes, indeed)) in the 50s)) and the fact that in the 90s they drowned a sabotage submarine off the coast of the yuk, and then it turned out that she had already released saboteurs and was walking back) and then they caught saboteurs, but didn’t catch)) so in the 90s, sk and yuk periodically collided))
          1. Delta
            Delta April 5 2013 12: 01
            +1
            Quote: fartfraer
            so in the 90s ck and yuk periodically collided

            and for this every second SOLDIER has several awards?
  3. hunting
    hunting April 4 2013 08: 48
    11
    Northerners will win not to see us Samsung with hyunday wink the southerners will win pin.dos.nya will be even closer. What is good for Russia? Maybe let them unite? And not yet in the subject: Ban Ki-moon being formerly President (or Woof of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs) Yu. Korea could not solve the issue of uniting one people, but still there, now wants to resolve the problems of the whole world. Proposal: to remove from the post of UN Secretary General for professional unsuitability. wassat
    1. djon3volta
      djon3volta April 4 2013 09: 06
      +2
      Why do we need this unification? It is unnecessary for Russia! Since the days of Stalin, the USSR has made buffer zones around Russia in the form of friendly countries, these are China, the DPRK, Asian states, the eastern bloc, they all entered the second echelon of the buffer, the first echelon was made up The USSR, that is, those who have disconnected, Ukraine, Tajikistan, the Baltic states, etc., created a double barrier against the enemies around the USSR !!! now we have no one left except China, the DPRK, Belarus, Kazakhstan, that is, a gap has been created near our borders. in the west and in Russia they understand this very well. perevooruzhatsya accounts and conduct large-scale exercises.
    2. Atrix
      Atrix April 4 2013 14: 06
      +1
      Quote: hunt
      Northerners will win not to see us Samsung with hyunday wink the southerners will win pin.dos.nya will be even closer. What is good for Russia? Maybe let them unite? And not yet in the subject: Ban Ki-moon being formerly President (or Woof of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs) Yu. Korea could not solve the issue of uniting one people, but still there, now wants to resolve the problems of the whole world. Proposal: to remove from the post of UN Secretary General for professional unsuitability. wassat

      Why South Korea will unite with a poor country, it will so undermine the economy of South Korea that they will recover in 30-50 years only. It should also be borne in mind that if unification occurs, then probably 30-40% of North Korea will try to move to South, which will entail their problems. In general, South Korea is completely unprofitable
      1. Nik One
        Nik One April 4 2013 16: 40
        0
        Yes, Germany, too, the association was not profitable. Only the question is different, no one will allow this association, because neither the United States nor China is beneficial in any way.
        1. Hon
          Hon April 4 2013 17: 14
          0
          And for Russia, unification is also not beneficial, because in this case we will get a strong state with a strong army that has territorial claims.
        2. AlNikolaich
          AlNikolaich April 4 2013 20: 41
          +1
          Quote: Nik One
          Yes, Germany, too, the association was not profitable

          Of course unprofitable! GDR was one of the ten most developed countries in the world, and what happened in the eastern lands after unification? As the saying goes, what we have is not stored, we lose, weep ...
          And the question is only propaganda! Many in the GDR were seduced by the charms of a consumer society, and as a result, the standard of living in a united Germany fell. And only by the 2000 years rose a little ...
          1. BruderV
            BruderV April 4 2013 20: 57
            +1
            Quote: AlNikolaich
            and what happened in the eastern lands after unification?

            So what happened in the eastern lands after unification? Instead Trabantov on Mercedes and Volks moved? Monsters what.
            1. AlNikolaich
              AlNikolaich April 4 2013 23: 26
              0
              Quote: BruderV
              Instead Trabantov on Mercedes and Volks moved? Monsters what.

              Think consumer! The East Germans were deceived by the Volks and Mercians! And as a result, in exchange for rusty carts and other "values" they lost their enterprises, jobs and hope for tomorrow! And they have become a burden to the western lands!
              1. BruderV
                BruderV April 4 2013 23: 31
                +1
                Quote: AlNikolaich
                in exchange for rusty carts, they lost their businesses, jobs and hope for tomorrow!

                Then there is a rabble from all over the world hiding in order to taste the hopelessness of tomorrow. There unemployed now receive more benefits than I work. And if there is any Musa with 10 children, then they will give him a mansion and he will shik on children's allowances.
              2. Hon
                Hon April 5 2013 09: 27
                +1
                Quote: AlNikolaich
                Think consumer! The East Germans were deceived by the Volks and Mercians! And as a result, in exchange for rusty carts and other "values" they lost their enterprises, jobs and hope for tomorrow! And they have become a burden to the western lands!

                There are many factories in Germany, which means a lot of work. What hope did the inhabitants of the GDR lose? Merkel was also born in the GDR, and what prevented her from getting a job in life?
      2. Hon
        Hon April 4 2013 17: 12
        0
        Quote: Atrix
        Why South Korea will unite with a poor country, it will so undermine the economy of South Korea that they will recover in 30-50 years only. It should also be borne in mind that if unification occurs, then probably 30-40% of North Korea will try to move to South, which will entail their problems. In general, South Korea is completely unprofitable

        If not for ideological reasons, Korea would have long been united. What are the benefits for the south? Well, for example, in a large number of cheap labor, and this makes it possible not to divert production to China. The northerners are certainly poor but they are not parasites, for them there will certainly be work in united Korea.
      3. Gluxar_
        Gluxar_ April 5 2013 04: 02
        +1
        Quote: Atrix
        Why South Korea will unite with a poor country, it will so undermine the economy of South Korea that they will recover in 30-50 years only. It should also be borne in mind that if unification occurs, then probably 30-40% of North Korea will try to move to South, which will entail their problems. In general, South Korea is completely unprofitable

        Still go tell it to Germany.
    3. StolzSS
      StolzSS April 4 2013 16: 08
      +1
      I support! Drive the pan in the suture)))
  4. Vladimirets
    Vladimirets April 4 2013 08: 52
    19
    I caught myself thinking that I feel sorry for them, I feel sorry for them as people, exhausted faces, dressed hell you understand what, they don’t see anything and don’t have, a miracle has replaced the old leaders. recourse
    1. Denis_SF
      Denis_SF April 4 2013 09: 20
      +5
      The same thought passed, a bargaining chip, complete futility ..
    2. StolzSS
      StolzSS April 4 2013 16: 10
      +2
      You are wrong about something. Pride and patriotism ...
      1. Hon
        Hon April 4 2013 17: 16
        +1
        Quote: StolzSS
        You are wrong about something. Pride and patriotism ...

        Allow free travel abroad and proud patriots will flee migrant workers around the world.
  5. svp67
    svp67 April 4 2013 08: 59
    +8
    Quote: Vladimirets
    I caught myself thinking that I feel sorry for them, I feel sorry for them as people, exhausted faces, dressed hell you’ll understand what, they don’t see and don’t have anything, a miracle replaced the old leaders



    The form, of course, not from "Yudashkin" but from natural fabrics. And notice how many people are armed, and the "miracle" is not afraid of this. It says the same thing ...
    1. fartfraer
      fartfraer April 4 2013 10: 10
      11
      Do you remember when the conscripts in "beautiful" uniforms froze in Novosibirsk? For those like these critics, they invented shoulder straps on the belly, etc. "charms", but for me it is so felt boots and sheepskin coats, as well as quilted jackets, you should always have a margin.
      experts of each other are "more authoritative")) - some form is not beautiful, others are old weapons)) I served on a conscript with a 64-year-old AKM, and nothing is a machine, you know)
      1. Delta
        Delta April 4 2013 13: 31
        +1
        Quote: fartfraer
        I served urgently with the Akm 64 model year, and nothing machine, you know)

        You, fortunately, did not have to fight with him. In battle, obsolete and worn weapons will immediately make themselves felt
        1. smprofi
          smprofi April 4 2013 14: 48
          +4
          Quote: Delta
          obsolete and worn weapons

          worn out - yes, not good.
          but the "outdated" ... somehow climbed the shooting forums, so they praise the SVD until 1975 of release (or a little earlier, that’s not the point) and later criticize: the workmanship is not that. with a bayonet with knives, already my experience - similarly.
          also crossed paths with one guy. he served in a hot spot in the 90s. made him a sniper after the qualifying rounds. so he was armed with a "mosinka" with the stigma of "his imperial majesty an arms factory ..." (by the way, at the same shooting forums, people chase after three-line precisely pre-revolutionary issues. unless, of course, the barrel is not worn out)
          1. Delta
            Delta April 4 2013 15: 14
            +2
            Quote: smprofi
            but "outdated"

            Why then would the armies of the world develop new weapons? let them fight "Boers", after all, a powerful thing.
            1. smprofi
              smprofi April 4 2013 15: 45
              +4
              Quote: Delta
              Why would the armies of the world develop new weapons?

              start with the fact that the army is not developing weapons. and weapons oh what a lucrative commodity!

              recently "anecdote" flashed: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-21701588
              a bloke named James McCormick was selling "bomb detectors" (and specifically to Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Georgia and Niger) for up to $ 40,000 (£ 27,000). at the same time, his firm Advanced Detection Equipment did not invent or produce anything, but took ready-made ... "golf ball finders" at a price of ... $ 20 (£ 13)
              this is gesheft!

              Quote: Delta
              let them fight "boers"

              Well Duc ... and still fighting



              M-14 version of a sniper rifle. and saw recent photos where M1 Garand is also holding a sniper rifle.
              but the French paratroopers were sent March 28 in Mali:



              FR-F1 in service since 1965. that's just a new sight for her adapted.
              1. Delta
                Delta April 4 2013 15: 58
                +1
                Quote: smprofi
                let's start with the fact that weapons are not the army

                And the army orders the same. Which is not separable from the state.
                Quote: smprofi
                Well Duc ... and still fighting

                yeah. And these same guys are also fighting "Raptors", "Virginias" and other high-tech types of weapons designed to be highly effective and hard to destroy. And the same "Boer" is a good thing, but still for the last century. You do not compare the actions of snipers (there is a very individual approach to everything there) and the same tankers, aviation, fleet
                1. smprofi
                  smprofi April 4 2013 16: 09
                  +1
                  Quote: Delta
                  And the same guys are also fighting "Raptors"

                  The F-22 Raptor hasn't fought yet. they didn’t let him into Libya either, they frankly forgot to use this wunderwaffle “What if they’ll be shot down!”
                  however ... there is no particular desire to argue further
              2. AlNikolaich
                AlNikolaich April 4 2013 20: 50
                +1
                Quote: smprofi
                Well Duc ... and still fighting

                Another material was that the amers in Iraq seized a warehouse with PPSh, and they are using it with might and main. Yes, I saw the photo, the Amer Marine with PPSh, and the collimator and tactical handle on the forearm are attached to it ...
                Apparently such junk sometimes works cleaner than new ... good
                1. smprofi
                  smprofi April 4 2013 21: 41
                  +1
                  Quote: AlNikolaich
                  Another material was

                  well ... we have them, as they say in Odessa:







                  and returning to the conversation about the three-ruler:

        2. fartfraer
          fartfraer April 5 2013 09: 33
          -1
          delta, this Akm will give your govododel a modern head start and anyway overtake)
          1. Delta
            Delta April 5 2013 12: 03
            0
            Quote: fartfraer
            delta, this akm will give your govododel modern head start and anyway overtake

            mine - what is it? I do not live in the USA. And for your fantasies and dreams, certainly handicap has long been given))))
      2. Snoop
        Snoop April 4 2013 15: 22
        +2
        Do not say))) And our army? I served in 2003-2004. during the exercises he dragged a helmet back in which Berlin was entered))) looked at the production stamp for interest .. he spent a long time stamping some July 1945)))))
        1. smprofi
          smprofi April 4 2013 15: 57
          +1
          Quote: Snoop
          dragged a helmet in which in Berlin entered

          well, at least real. and then recently there was information that "firmachi" delivered "newfangled helmets". it turned out that they were holding nothing at all, construction helmets.
    2. Vladimirets
      Vladimirets April 4 2013 13: 18
      +3
      Quote: svp67
      The form, of course, not from "Yudashkin" but from natural fabrics.

      So after all, and bast shoes made of natural material, but still better in long boots.
      Quote: svp67
      And notice how many people are armed, and the "miracle" is not afraid of this. It says the same thing ...

      The miracle looks like a big-growing, underdeveloped and spoiled child who does not know that the toys are already over.
      1. svp67
        svp67 April 4 2013 16: 04
        0
        Quote: Vladimirets
        So after all, and bast shoes made of natural material, but still better in long boots.



        But aren't boots made of natural material?
        1. Vladimirets
          Vladimirets April 4 2013 16: 18
          0
          Quote: svp67
          But aren't boots made of natural material?

          Tautology turned out smile , but you probably understood what I mean: naturalness does not yet provide quality.
          1. svp67
            svp67 April 5 2013 04: 02
            0
            Quote: Vladimirets
            Quote: svp67
            But aren't boots made of natural material?

            Tautology turned out smile , but you probably understood what I mean: naturalness does not yet provide quality.


            Well, then they would compare bast shoes with sneakers ... And their shape, albeit not so "modern" looks, but it has been tested in a combat situation ...
      2. svp67
        svp67 April 4 2013 16: 09
        +2
        Quote: Vladimirets
        The miracle looks like a big-growing, underdeveloped and spoiled child who does not know that the toys are already over.


        Time will tell who he is and what ...
        1. Thunderbolt
          Thunderbolt April 4 2013 18: 12
          +4
          I agree that young Kim is still inexperienced in the big politics of "war and peace", but he is surrounded by grated balls of old generals. They will direct and prompt. As I understand, they have a Politburo there in the manner of ours. By the way, both Koreas took "a couple of timid steps "along the path of unification. But then, not without the help of the United States: on October 4, 2007, at a ceremony held in Pyongyang, the leader of the DPRK, Kim Jong Il, and the President of the Republic of Korea, Roh Moo Hyun, signed an eight-point Declaration on Peace and Shared Prosperity." This document summed up the results of the 2007 inter-Korean summit. It calls for peace between the two Koreas, shared prosperity and an end to military hostility. After President Lee Myung-bak came to power in Seoul, relations between the North and the South began to deteriorate sharply.
  6. demon ada
    demon ada April 4 2013 09: 13
    +2
    Yes, I think they are doomed, they are all alone against them (without open support).
    but they will break their teeth to these American mongrel be healthy.
    1. nakaz
      nakaz April 4 2013 14: 30
      0
      When the DPRK decides to occupy South Korea with areas inhabited by civilians, the thought arises whether the USA will abandon its satellite without risking to discover its monstrous animal grin throughout the civilized world.
  7. Stiletto
    Stiletto April 4 2013 09: 18
    +1
    I was pleased with the "powerful" fleet of Kim Jong-un, and especially pinned the mouse on the new North Korean laptop))) That's it, now it's definitely Khan America!
    1. fzr1000
      fzr1000 April 4 2013 09: 51
      +1
      This is not a mouse, but quite an ordinary trackball.
    2. svp67
      svp67 April 4 2013 09: 55
      +1
      Quote: Stiletto
      especially pinned the mouse


      And this is not a "mouse", this device is called "Trackball". The DPRK wants to go its own way here too ... smile
  8. don.kryyuger
    don.kryyuger April 4 2013 09: 20
    +2
    How much cannon fodder! Unleash the war, the Americans will throw missiles at them, without soldiers. Sooner or later, Korea will be alone - southern.
    1. svp67
      svp67 April 4 2013 09: 46
      +8
      Quote: don.kryyuger
      Sooner or later, Korea will be one - south.


      And the option that there will be no Korea, or that Korea will be, but is not being considered as part of the autonomous region as part of China?
    2. AlNikolaich
      AlNikolaich April 4 2013 20: 58
      0
      Quote: don.kryyuger
      How much cannon fodder! Unleash the war, the Americans will throw missiles at them, without soldiers. Sooner or later, Korea will be alone - southern.

      Well, this grandmother said for two ... It is striking that the DPRK has a huge number of multiple launch rocket launchers of various calibers. Amer does not care, they are far away. And South Koreans can easily row to the fullest! And tactical missiles in the DPRK in bulk. The same thing flies to the Japanese! Amer certainly rush to save their satellites, but there may already be no one to save!
  9. Denis_SF
    Denis_SF April 4 2013 09: 21
    +3
    We even have mob warehouses, I think the weapons will be better.
  10. Apollo
    Apollo April 4 2013 09: 21
    13
    The DPRK army has one big advantage, strong morale and patriotism. They will lay down their bones and defend themselves to the last. This is not Libya, Iraq and not even Syria. This is the DPRK and the Americans are well aware of this.
    1. fartfraer
      fartfraer April 4 2013 09: 37
      +5
      Apollo, I agree. Here many are ironic, forgetting that if the "mattress" is given into the hands of the SVD, then he can lose to a warrior trained and sharpened for victory, even if the warrior is armed with a homemade caramultuk since Napoleon.
      1. Nagaibak
        Nagaibak April 4 2013 10: 26
        10
        fartfraer "even if the warrior is armed with a self-made caramult from the times of Napoleon."
        I agree with you. Let people be ironic. However, the North Koreans and the military-industrial complex are well developed, or rather, probably one military-industrial complex is also developed.
        "The DPRK has built 17 factories for the production of firearms and artillery, 35 factories for the production of ammunition, 5 factories for the production of tanks and armored vehicles, 8 aircraft factories, 5 factories for the production of warships, 5 factories for the production of guided missiles, 5 factories for the production of communications equipment , 8 factories for chemical and biological weapons. In addition, many civilian factories can be converted at minimal cost to produce military products. Over 180 defense factories have been built underground in mountainous areas. "
        Although of course you can laugh at North Korea.
        1. fartfraer
          fartfraer April 4 2013 10: 51
          +6
          there is no point in arguing about the development of the North Korean military-industrial complex, as well as about the army — one of the most powerful (in the world, and not only in the region) constituent factors of independence and the ability to independent politics.
          the training is very impressive, not only military, but also mobilization. It is a warrior country. Why it has become so not a topic of fasting, but that this warrior is dangerous for the enemy is beyond doubt.
          any war with the North Koreans is (among other things) capturing a mass of saboteurs on its territory, this is an enemy who feeds on grass from under his feet and is generally unpretentious in everyday life. these are well-trained soldiers with a strong ideology. I do not understand what the "experts" are ironing about, it is clear that they had nothing to do with real military operations, and whether they served in the army is a big question
      2. Delta
        Delta April 4 2013 13: 51
        +5
        Quote: fartfraer
        here many are ironic, forgetting that if the "mattress" is given into the hands of the SVD, then he can lose to a warrior trained and sharpened for victory, even if the warrior is armed with a homemade caramult from the times of Napoleon.

        yes, so many in Russia thought before Tsushima
        1. fartfraer
          fartfraer April 5 2013 09: 37
          -2
          vyser is not counted)) because it was tsushima that showed that yapi were more prepared) before giving birth, think what you say) because tsushima confirms exactly my point of view, not yours
          1. Delta
            Delta April 5 2013 12: 06
            +2
            Quote: fartfraer
            vyser is not counted)) because it was tsushima that showed that yapi were more prepared) before giving birth, think what you say) because tsushima confirms exactly my point of view, not yours

            you have vysery here, and all this has long been recognized. Do not humiliate yourself once again. It was Tsushima who showed people like you the patriots that technology means a lot, and courage without it is zilch. In your terminology, he’s embossed))) And Tsushima confirmed the point of view of those who thought not only courage (which was enough on both sides) but also about what shells to shoot and how to do it
    2. self-propelled
      self-propelled April 4 2013 09: 57
      +4
      The total service life in the ground units of the Korean People’s Army ranges from 5 to 8 years. From this period, special forces soldiers serve in full force. If we consider the general structure of the special forces in the country, then they include 10 "sniper" brigades, 12 light infantry brigades, 17 separate reconnaissance battalions and one airborne battalion. Such a structure could not affect the size - North Korean special forces are one of the largest special forces units in the world and number more than 90 thousand people ...
      1. fartfraer
        fartfraer April 4 2013 10: 05
        0
        Well, maybe I have outdated information, but I read that in Korean specialists it’s 10 years of service (with conscripts), and before the sabotage is carried out, they allow him no earlier than three years.
    3. zadorin1974
      zadorin1974 April 4 2013 11: 39
      +1
      I agree completely - only one addition - with the front team, this whole army will go forward not only for patriotism - they will be offered the option of improving their lives - We will take a better life from the bourgeois for our children - and Ales will come to the southerners - they will run ahead to the distillations without a team - and the fact that the southerners have modern weapons - so for every North Korean fighter with Kalash, NATO will not have enough super missiles - the landscape of Korea is mostly mountainous (difficult), so there is a place to go secretly and hide.
    4. Atrix
      Atrix April 4 2013 14: 13
      +5
      Quote: Apollon
      The DPRK army has one big advantage, strong morale and patriotism. They will lay down their bones and defend themselves to the last. This is not Libya, Iraq and not even Syria. This is the DPRK and the Americans are well aware of this.

      Well, how strong morale is in the DPRK is a controversial moment, all that is visible is from the videos shown by the DPRK itself. Zhirinovsky also once said that Iraq was strong in spirit, then they said that Libya was strong in spirit, so far only Syria met expectations.
      1. smprofi
        smprofi April 4 2013 14: 51
        +2
        Quote: Atrix
        Iraq is strong in spirit, then they said that Libya is strong in spirit

        and there everything is trivially simple: "donkey with gold" played its role, in the current version - "chumodan with greenery".
        1. Delta
          Delta April 4 2013 15: 02
          +2
          Quote: smprofi
          and there everything is trivially simple: "donkey with gold" played its role, in the current version - "chumodan with greenery".

          So everywhere it was and will be. You might think that the current pseudo-revolution in the territory of the former USSR is not bought. Who said that you can't buy hungry North Koreans with the same chumadan with herbs? tired of fanaticism. Fanaticism can win, but only at the initial stage (c) Professor Preobrazhensky.
  11. PDM80
    PDM80 April 4 2013 09: 23
    0
    Yes, the Americans will tinker if they have so many women under arms, but how much more they can raise!
    1. Atrix
      Atrix April 4 2013 14: 16
      +1
      Americans will not have to fight with their soldiers, for this there is South Korea. The United States can provide technical support, populate rockets, provide intelligence data, etc. I doubt that they will want to lead troops, maybe separate special units will work, but they will lead if everything is bad and then under the mandate of the UN and NATO
      1. Gluxar_
        Gluxar_ April 5 2013 04: 14
        -1
        Quote: Atrix
        Americans will not have to fight with their soldiers, for this there is South Korea. The United States can provide technical support, populate rockets, provide intelligence data, etc. I doubt that they will want to lead troops, maybe separate special units will work, but they will lead if everything is bad and then under the mandate of the UN and NATO

        Without the United States and its soldiers, the Republic of Kazakhstan will be defeated in a matter of days. Not a complete defeat, but irreplaceable. It will be the collapse of the ideology of capitalism and the DPRK will win.
  12. Trailer
    Trailer April 4 2013 09: 37
    +2
    The North Korean has another small advantage over the South - nuclear weapons.
    1. Strezhevchanin
      Strezhevchanin April 4 2013 14: 45
      +1
      Quote: Karavan
      The North Korean has another small advantage over the South - nuclear weapons.

      And so they urgently need a very good air defense system, then even the Americans will have to puff hi
  13. Nagaibak
    Nagaibak April 4 2013 09: 38
    +3
    If skillfully used it is possible to repulse all such weapons. The weapon is at least old, but reliable. Of course you can bomb them, but this is not Iraq and Libya, in North Korea there is a mountainous relief. They have a base underground tunnels dug. Underground airbases. The plants are in the same place. Normally, everything, no one will climb on them, is more expensive for themselves. And the clothes are warm, comfortable hehe ... obviously not from Yudashkin. In winter, they don’t have Sochi, humidity, fresh ... you know. Pants and jackets are insulated, so they seem baggy.
  14. FunkschNNX
    FunkschNNX April 4 2013 09: 45
    +1
    So always, at the whim of a hog with a funny haircut, a bunch of ordinary people should kill other ordinary people. And all so that this hog and a flock of close jackals would get some nishtyaks for themselves.
    1. fartfraer
      fartfraer April 4 2013 12: 05
      +2
      I agree, you just have to give up and that’s all. at the mercy of the states.
      it’s a pity that you live so late, you would advise like Stalin, you would look and save millions of soldiers and civilians. (where irony everyone decides for himself)
      1. FunkschNNX
        FunkschNNX April 5 2013 09: 43
        +1
        Leave the states alone, they are going to bomb the South Koreans and not the Pentagon. What is the reason for the North Korean peasant to kill the South Korean teacher?

        The states gathered to give up :-) heh, you have megalomania, they do not need you nafig :-)
        1. fartfraer
          fartfraer April 5 2013 11: 10
          0
          in general, it is South Korea that declares a preemptive strike, and the north only speaks of a possible answer)) so that when the teacher begins to threaten the peasant, the peasant has the right to defiantly pick up the forks)
  15. leon-iv
    leon-iv April 4 2013 09: 48
    +9

    For such an instructor in the BSP and TP to shoot a little clowns.
    1. evgenii67
      evgenii67 April 4 2013 10: 06
      +1
      In the photo, North Korean rambo unfinished! Each of them would have already drawn ten holes in the head.
      1. fartfraer
        fartfraer April 4 2013 10: 56
        +5
        you would be surprised when you saw my photos from the contract)) however, as my experience shows, the photos and reality often do not correspond, I hope it is clear that it is not so easy to draw a "hole" for a saboteur with at least three years of training, but in the Korean army there are more of them, much more than in Russian or Tanskoy. Do not judge only by the photo.
        as an example, photos of soldiers peeling potatoes in the Russian Federation cause a lot of irony, but when these soldiers "bend" hardened militants, then you somehow forget about the potatoes)
        1. leon-iv
          leon-iv April 4 2013 11: 05
          +4
          do not judge only by photo.
          Well xs all colleagues who constantly work with weapons are already working at the muscle level correctly. This applies to body motility and TB.
          1. fartfraer
            fartfraer April 4 2013 11: 33
            0
            Have you seen how they are marching in parades? It's funny)) with a jump)) the third cylinder "troit" in body motility.
            but when you look on YouTube (for example) the training of their saboteurs, or hear about the service life, you understand that "motor skills" are not the worst)
            I understand that this is definitely not recruits (otherwise all comments will be just ridiculous), and I also understand that in the Russian army such phs can never be done, since we have everything with weapons since childhood.
            I hope you will understand where in my comment the irony))
      2. sanych
        sanych April 4 2013 11: 52
        +5
        Aha! It feels like the shot is staged. Looks like a Hollywood picture - they attack to their full height and shoot "from the belly"! lol I can’t believe that they studied this with an 8-year service — the postcard is obvious.
    2. cth; fyn
      cth; fyn April 4 2013 10: 09
      +3
      Holywood forever !!!
    3. Nagaibak
      Nagaibak April 4 2013 10: 17
      +5
      leon-iv "For such an instructor in BSP and TP, shoot a few CLOWNS."
      You shouldn’t be so strict ... with closed eyes, not everyone can shoot like that .. hehe .. shot and forgot called ...
    4. omsbon
      omsbon April 4 2013 10: 25
      0
      Quote: leon-iv
      For such an instructor in the BSP and TP to shoot a little clowns.

      If the North Koreans are watching VO, then you can take your advice.
    5. dmitry46
      dmitry46 April 4 2013 10: 48
      +2
      also eyes are buried lol
      the DPRK has an invincible army ..... All enemies are scared just by sight))
      1. leon-iv
        leon-iv April 4 2013 11: 06
        +2
        also eyes are buried
        Well, it’s hard for quick-eyed people to look at the world with wide eyes.
    6. iSpoiler
      iSpoiler April 4 2013 16: 23
      -1
      PPC form inconspicuous ..)))
      And the shooting is not aimed ..... although .... maybe they have a special wireless sight, it’s built into the eye .. or in a cockade.))
    7. iSpoiler
      iSpoiler April 4 2013 16: 36
      +4
      Probably it was something like that ..))
    8. Farik
      Farik April 4 2013 22: 10
      +2
      Quote: leon-iv
      shoot a little CLOWNS.

      Rambo pancake homegrown !!!
  16. fzr1000
    fzr1000 April 4 2013 09: 49
    +2
    The boat in the photo with Eun, of course, mdaaa. He's still a "dreadnought". It is strange that he came on such a vessel. Or is it to be closer to the common people?
    1. cth; fyn
      cth; fyn April 4 2013 10: 09
      +9
      The tree has low radio frequency, so it's a stealth boat laughing
      1. fartfraer
        fartfraer April 4 2013 10: 59
        +1
        much cooler when the money of the state is spent on "representative ts." Yes, I would have transplanted all the officials from Merciers to bugs, let them ride.
        1. Delta
          Delta April 4 2013 13: 36
          +2
          Quote: fartfraer
          much cooler when the money of the state is spent on "representative ts." Yes, I would have transplanted all the officials from Merciers to bugs, let them ride.

          This is a type of proximity to the people?))) Do you know how Eun lives and how the rest of the Northern people live? so his boat is another window dress. Especially against the background of his fat cracking turnips
          1. Dr. Pilyulkin
            Dr. Pilyulkin April 4 2013 15: 50
            +2
            Quote: Delta
            Especially against the background of his fat cracking turnips


            Come on ...
            Maybe he was swollen from hunger. laughing
          2. Sirius
            Sirius April 4 2013 18: 55
            +1
            And I noticed that the background is generals, and they are all lean, to look with pleasure. Then he drew attention to the pegs. They look normal, better than ties, and more convenient than shoulder straps.
            1. AlNikolaich
              AlNikolaich April 4 2013 21: 05
              0
              Quote: Sirius
              Then he drew attention to the Lychki

              this buttonhole is called ... tongue
          3. fartfraer
            fartfraer April 5 2013 09: 42
            +1
            yes, yes)) this is from the series "putin on" Kalina ". only something I doubt that there is a place to run)) and you can't hear about foreign accounts))
            By the way, tell me how he lives, I see you are an expert on North Korean realities.
  17. busido
    busido April 4 2013 09: 50
    +6
    I kept thinking who Kim Jong-un reminds me of .... Remember "From Dusk Till Dawn" ?! Adopted son, Korean, pastor.Vylytyy.Only matured.With a "cheerful" mood can be easily confused. And according to the plot of the film, the brave, fighting guy had a terrible ending. Ghouls gnawed at him. Kim is like that actor! Especially when he smiles.
    1. Snoop
      Snoop April 4 2013 15: 29
      +1
      So this is it))) Fed)))
  18. svp67
    svp67 April 4 2013 09: 51
    +2
    Quote: leon-iv
    [Img]

    For such an instructor in the BSP and TP to shoot a little clowns.



    The usual "ballet" to please the eyes of the Supreme, and what did you expect to show tactical developments?
  19. leon-iv
    leon-iv April 4 2013 09: 53
    11
    Here's how to hold the machine
    1. leon-iv
      leon-iv April 4 2013 10: 29
      +1
      PS I forgot to add this my personal photos were taken recently
      1. fartfraer
        fartfraer April 4 2013 11: 01
        +1
        cool you keep the machines) but want a joke, you are on the same line, on one line, and the "clumsy" Koreans are distributed more competently, in a rare chain)) so who is the "special"?
        1. leon-iv
          leon-iv April 4 2013 11: 20
          +4
          lal well, certainly not you; this is one of the exercises of the TSP Sturm to increase the density of fire in the base structure.
          1. fartfraer
            fartfraer April 4 2013 11: 42
            0
            that's all) the difference in tactics, etc.) you won't be able to attack the entrenched company like that, although you hold the machine gun correctly, yes, I'm not special, but I bet that it would be easier for me personally to hit you with a standard weapon exactly when you are so located, and not "scattered" like Koreans.
            it’s not a belittling or an insult, it’s just a fact. you are obviously not honing for an army attack in the fields (in this photo).
        2. Delta
          Delta April 4 2013 13: 39
          -1
          Quote: fartfraer
          you are on the same line, on the same line

          On one line - these are picture "heroes" stretched out in a chain. And those standing behind each other are just not for the queue
          1. fartfraer
            fartfraer April 5 2013 11: 19
            -1
            let's start with the basics - when fired, Kalash leads a little up, as we were taught in the army)) now the question is what prevents the enemy from sitting in the trenches to aim at the chest of the first soldier and give a turn? Will the barrel lead slightly up and the second will catch its share of lead, isn’t it? Now we’ll develop the situation, two by two. The comrades go as in the photo, the other comrades in a rare chain like the Koreans.
            photo heroes with their concentrated fire will demolish one Korean in any way)) am I right? and now we return to the position of heroes, they are on the same line, the second Korean will put them without straining
            clarification, all this is said about actions in the open, during the storming of a building, fire density undoubtedly solves problems (for example, on flights of stairs)
            but now you can tell me that I'm wrong and do not fight at all)
      2. AlNikolaich
        AlNikolaich April 4 2013 21: 09
        0
        Quote: leon-iv
        PS I forgot to add this my personal photos were taken recently

        In the photo MVDshniki, an exercise for urban combat! Clarify riot police or explosives? hi
        1. leon-iv
          leon-iv April 4 2013 22: 59
          +1
          Riot police or explosives?
          Airsoft VERY well VERY strongly associated with the Ministry of Internal Affairs in particular with the BSP
          Top it's me
          1. BruderV
            BruderV April 4 2013 23: 07
            0
            Quote: leon-iv
            Airsoft players

            And I watch a motorcycle helmet laughing , pokemon style.
            1. leon-iv
              leon-iv April 4 2013 23: 55
              0
              And I watch a motorcycle helmet, Pokemon style.
              Yes, it’s not ZSh-1. At first they dragged the original ones, but after 2-3 hours the neck was sour in it, even with my experience in martial arts. Bought replicas.
              + In addition, I also have active rifle bands in the active headphones there, with an embankment and another DTK-1 from the anti-aircraft gun. It extinguishes the impact perfectly, but the sound pressure will grind by 70%. Simply put, the pogs are overwhelming.
              shooting 2/3 of zinc (for 3) colleagues was already hard to perceive. For everything was heard badly.
              Now those members of our team who serve ordered themselves 9 sets from the anti-aircraft guns including 5 DTK-4 let's see what comes. And how he shoots a gross cartridge
              1. BruderV
                BruderV April 5 2013 00: 10
                0
                In the original school, I trained without a visor, it’s not very hard (it’s hard to drag a custom PCM))), but you can’t hear your figs without a loringophone, then I went to another team there in panama hats, in winter there was no problem. If also with a visor, then many stumble out of the blue, because it fogs up and distorts the perception of distance due to bulletproof glass.
                1. leon-iv
                  leon-iv April 5 2013 00: 23
                  0
                  In the original school of art without a visor, I trained, it seems not very hard
                  The question is loads. Right now, we have current in them if buildings in the forest have nothing to do with caps
                  Right now, the whole SOBR has bought bourgeois helmets for mountains and Altyn or ZSh-1M
                  for buildings.
  20. Krasnoyarsk
    Krasnoyarsk April 4 2013 10: 26
    -2
    Combat museum
  21. Nasty
    Nasty April 4 2013 10: 32
    -1
    And so quick-eyed, and even squint!
  22. svp67
    svp67 April 4 2013 10: 34
    +1
    Quote: Krasnoyarets
    Combat museum


    That's just it. that museum workers have recently become very active ...
  23. ChornuiVoron
    ChornuiVoron April 4 2013 10: 47
    +2
    We need to think about how to feed the people. And he plays in the soldiers.
    1. fartfraer
      fartfraer April 4 2013 11: 16
      -1
      that’s what you think about it day and night) how many hours in Moscow do you watch yourself? Can’t you feed yourself? I don’t feel sorry, I’m even for the help of the brotherly people, but when you start to teach and want to say, learn yourself!
      rejoice that Ukraine does not border on Korea and does not have problems with them, for Ukraine could not solve these problems without help from outside.
      well, and lastly, aspiring to NATO, I want to say that Ukraine, in fact, does not now have independence, Russia is not 100% independent, and Korea is completely independent, even managing to create and maintain an army and various technologies even in the blockade. resources, which are many in the Russian Federation or in Ukraine.
      1. ChornuiVoron
        ChornuiVoron April 4 2013 11: 36
        +2
        At our place, people do not receive 400 grams of rice per day on cards. And there are no trucks working on a tree. Is independence only for a funny fatty leader, or can Koreans freely leave the country? Do not work on a plantation at gunpoint? That's independence.

        Regarding Ukraine, did you see a flag and like a bull on a comment? Ukraine is an independent country and can decide what to do and where to join.
        1. Delta
          Delta April 4 2013 13: 42
          0
          Quote: ChornuiVoron
          At our place, people do not receive 400 grams of rice per day on cards. And there are no trucks working on a tree. Is independence only for a funny fatty leader, or can Koreans freely leave the country? Do not work on a plantation at gunpoint? That's independence.

          Regarding Ukraine, did you see a flag and like a bull on a comment? Ukraine is an independent country and can decide what to do and where to join.


          applause
        2. M. Peter
          M. Peter April 4 2013 19: 05
          -2
          Quote: ChornuiVoron
          At our place, people do not receive 400 grams of rice per day on cards. And there are no trucks working on a tree. Is independence only for a funny fatty leader, or can Koreans freely leave the country? Do not work on a plantation at gunpoint? That's independence.


          But I’m always wondering when you write about Sev.Korea like that, how do you feel confident that they eat 400 gr. rice per day? Have you ever been to North Korea at all? A very common misconception. They don’t eat there, but there’s no hunger at all.
          1. Hon
            Hon April 4 2013 20: 08
            0
            Quote: M.Pyotr
            But I’m always wondering when you write about Sev.Korea like that, how do you feel confident that they eat 400 gr. rice per day? Have you ever been to North Korea at all? A very common misconception. They don’t eat there, but there’s no hunger at all.

            I rode somehow with the Koreans in the bus, so they were even dressed in their uniforms, probably in the absence of another.
            1. M. Peter
              M. Peter April 5 2013 06: 59
              0
              Quote: Hon
              I drove like that with the Koreans in the bus

              And you thought how they got here, because the country is in isolation, the evil dictator doesn’t let anyone in, but doesn’t let anyone out? Or were you in the very north of Korea?

              Quote: Hon
              so they were even dressed in their uniforms, probably in the absence of another.

              Apparently, schoolchildren from the times of the USSR, but also for the lack of any other clothes, everyone was dressed in uniform. wink

              The site says a lot about how to think with your own head, do not look back to the "west" and so on, but all these nonsense about hunger, cold and concentration camps in the DPRK are just imposed on us by this very "west". By the way, you can visit the DPRK as a tourist, it is not such a closed country as many think.
              There, in the DPRK, if you eat you can’t get what Thailand offers, satisfaction of low lust, when prostitutes are the main goods, transvestites and the like, no. The feeling will be as if you returned to the USSR, cleanly and calmly.
              1. Hon
                Hon April 5 2013 09: 42
                0
                Quote: M.Pyotr
                And you thought how they got here, because the country is in isolation, the evil dictator doesn’t let anyone in, but doesn’t let anyone out? Or were you in the very north of Korea?

                Up which creeping across borders. It was about a year ago in Moscow, route 431М, I went to Zelik. Three Koreans came in with bags, what the Koreans understood in form.
                Quote: M.Pyotr
                Apparently, schoolchildren from the times of the USSR, but also for the lack of any other clothes, everyone was dressed in uniform.

                Pupils under 40 did not wear uniforms, and these guys were clearly older.
                Quote: M.Pyotr
                By the way, you can go to the DPRK as a tourist, it’s not such a closed country as many people think.

                Yes, I know this year tourists even stopped taking mobile phones and were allowed to use the Internet.
                Quote: M.Pyotr
                The feeling will be as if you returned to the USSR, cleanly and calmly.

                Have you been there? Did you manage to communicate with ordinary citizens of the DPRK?
        3. fartfraer
          fartfraer April 5 2013 09: 49
          0
          yes, Ukrainians do not get rice on ration cards) they just sell their labor force abroad)) what kind of independence are you talking about? your economy is slag, it’s even easier to give you a slag on the economy than the Russian Federation, you will run away forgetting patriotism if you have “rice on ration” ". full expression of the nation, or is it still reversible? where are the descendants of the Koaaks, who made the Poles and Swedes cancer? only Mazeppians remained) now you can read about Ukraine only in" Taras Bulba ", because his descendants steal gas, work outside the country and have lost their former power of spirit
        4. fartfraer
          fartfraer April 5 2013 11: 23
          0
          it’s strange that you are complexing about your flag) Well, I won’t argue about Ukraine’s independence, it was she who completely blackmailed Russia with gas transit and left Europe without gas at the time. It’s exactly she who breaks into NATO and helped Georgians in the war with Russia
      2. Delta
        Delta April 4 2013 13: 42
        +1
        Quote: fartfraer
        and Korea is completely independent

        And FOOD does not refuse help. Moreover - it is being traded already.
    2. Sirius
      Sirius April 4 2013 19: 01
      0
      "The court makes the king." Kim Jong-un is a slave to his environment, a slave to his destiny. Even if he wants to change something, will he be able to do a lot, a puppet in the hands of the generals?
  24. dmitry46
    dmitry46 April 4 2013 10: 53
    +2
    Do they have any armor plates at all? all only with machine guns, and in one helmeted photo .... Fearless army)
  25. Prometey
    Prometey April 4 2013 11: 04
    +5
    I don’t understand what this Korean clown wants? Now is not the year 1950, and no one will harness for North Korean ambitions. They will get Uncle Sam, and then they just roll out. The only pity is people who are kept like cattle (a woman should watch the house, not carry shells). The DPRK, as a political project, has worked out its own. It is better for us to have a stable economic partner on the border than idiots, and even with a dirty nuclear bomb.
    1. Vovka levka
      Vovka levka April 4 2013 11: 20
      +2
      Childhood in the pope plays. And people, that people, in one place have them.
      If anything, the army will scatter. Zealots of course have their own will shoot. Such a dictatorial, inhuman state can exist only in a complete information vacuum. But this vacuum is no longer there. Just so that troubles are not done, otherwise everyone will get it, nuclear weapons are not a joke.
      1. fartfraer
        fartfraer April 4 2013 11: 59
        +2
        "Childhood plays in the priest." - for sure)) some still believe in democracy and independence)
        "If anything, the army scatters" - you are a fine connoisseur of the spiritual strings of Koreans. If there was a possibility of a real clash between the Ukrainian army and the North Koreans, I would bet on the latter.
        "Such a dictatorial, inhuman state can exist only in a complete information vacuum" - here I agree. Until the poison of a liberal lie does not spread personal opinion, a person believes his eyes, and only then he changes free medicine and education for a hundred varieties of sausages and jeans. Valiant Ukraine is alive an example of an open society, it is so open that the mass of Ukrainians work in Russia, the mass in Europe, and very few raise the economy of the brotherly state. This is a shame for Ukraine, but you can put up with it, the main thing is democracy rules.
        "nuclear weapons are not a joke." - and here I agree, this is the only deterrent to "peace-loving democratic" Uncle Sam
        1. Vovka levka
          Vovka levka April 4 2013 12: 37
          +2
          In Ukraine, not democracy rules, but boys. There is nothing free in the world, just payment methods are different.
        2. Kalita
          Kalita April 4 2013 19: 09
          +2
          There will be great joy in Uncle Sam’s country when Russia and Ukraine finally quarrel. So let's not give them such joy, but learn to respect each other.
          1. Vovka levka
            Vovka levka April 4 2013 23: 21
            0
            I agree, I just won’t allow myself that, I have many friends in Russia. The fact that some people allow themselves such statements is probably from a lack of education, and the school of life.
            Honestly, there is no desire to comment.
    2. fartfraer
      fartfraer April 4 2013 11: 52
      0
      "They'll get Uncle Sam, and then they'll just roll them out." - these are the main words of your comment - the main thing is not to get Uncle Sam) such as you were in power in the 90s, they agreed to everything, if only the "economy" of the wallet did not suffer and Uncle Sam wasn't angry.
      you took for yourself a loud nickname-Prometheus, who brought fire against the will of the gods, received a terrible punishment for this, although in fact you are ready to sell your neighbor ("it is better for us to have a stable economic partner on the border") just so as not to anger Uncle Sam. here is more suitable nickname "Judas" ... not an insult, God forbid. just an analogy.
      1. Delta
        Delta April 4 2013 13: 46
        +2
        Quote: fartfraer
        "They'll get Uncle Sam, and then they'll just roll them out." - these are the main words of your comment - the main thing is not to get Uncle Sam) such as you were in power in the 90s, they agreed to everything, if only the "economy" of the wallet did not suffer and Uncle Sam wasn't angry.
        you took for yourself a loud nickname-Prometheus, who brought fire against the will of the gods, received a terrible punishment for this, although in fact you are ready to sell your neighbor ("it is better for us to have a stable economic partner on the border") just so as not to anger Uncle Sam. here is more suitable nickname "Judas" ... not an insult, God forbid. just an analogy.


        And here you basically go to personalities and nicknames, from a lack of argumentation. By the way, if about nicknames - your "Cool")))))
        1. fartfraer
          fartfraer April 5 2013 10: 02
          0
          By the way, yes)) why are we on the personality)) began to insult a fat Korean))
          leave your policy of double standards, you are the same person as you, only he runs the state)
          1. Delta
            Delta April 5 2013 12: 10
            -1
            Quote: fartfraer
            began to insult the fat Korean)

            can a link about the insult to the "fat Korean"?
      2. Prometey
        Prometey April 4 2013 14: 55
        +4
        fartfraer
        I will tell you so. The transition to personality and discussion of nicknames indicates your failure. Without knowing the person, you are ready to attribute to him qualities that he never had. Well, okay, the Internet will endure everything.
        In the 90s, like most people, I tried to survive, and even now, essentially nothing has changed. If you think that something has changed since then, you are naive. Some thieves and jackals succeeded others in power. But I didn’t fall into power - I didn’t learn to lie and steal for my conscious life.
        And the point is not to please Uncle Sam. DPRK is a beggarly country with a miserable ruling regime. Instead of looking for ways to integrate with the South, these idiots rattle with rusty metal and shake their little fists. I am personally worried that our country is at hand with such inadequacy that threatens its neighbors with an atomic bomb. And where is the guarantee that their missile will go astray, will fly not to the Pacific Ocean, but to Vladivostok. In this case, too, will you praise and support Eun?
        1. Vovka levka
          Vovka levka April 4 2013 15: 03
          +2
          I totally agree.
        2. fartfraer
          fartfraer April 5 2013 09: 58
          -1
          did not set out to offend you.
          however, it is not possible and necessary to negotiate with everyone. both in politics and in life. chavez did not negotiate with them, Lukashenko does not matter what Europe says about him, but he "does not negotiate", a scoundrel) history has taught that treaties are valid only as long as they are beneficial to the strong side.
          for example, give the historical facts - the Munich agreement, the Molotov-Ribentrop pact, the SNV, on conventional weapons in Europe, etc., all these agreements turned out to be bullshit, so why is he ""? maybe he just knows the price of the agreements?
  26. Vrungel78
    Vrungel78 April 4 2013 11: 09
    +2
    Well, the UK has enough spirit (albeit bad), weapons, albeit old, but, I suppose, by analogy with the Soviet, reliable operation, envy-learning, but the nano-boat will not float away
  27. Alyoha
    Alyoha April 4 2013 11: 14
    +2
    Fat Eun verbiage. There will be no war, because of this fat animal, America will repeatedly strengthen the missile defense system in Alaska, which is harmful to us. How is Eun so obese in a country where hunger is from the 90s.
    1. fartfraer
      fartfraer April 4 2013 11: 46
      0
      Lech, you look at the soldier)) everything from starvation is already transparent)) not otherwise they will eat them))
  28. fartfraer
    fartfraer April 4 2013 12: 14
    -6
    you can delete my komenty as much as you like)) you just have nothing to argue.
    your irony breaks down on the facts, your "pride" is ridiculous, given your condemnation of an independent state in spite of the states. continue to be slaves, be afraid of people and sneer at the obviously weak, but independent, remaining essentially strong, but terribly stupid slaves. health to all, it is for you will be needed when working on s
    1. dmitry46
      dmitry46 April 4 2013 13: 08
      +4
      did you smoke
  29. trenkkvaz
    trenkkvaz April 4 2013 13: 27
    +2
    Quote: Apollon
    The DPRK army has one big advantage, strong morale and patriotism. They will lay down their bones and defend themselves to the last. This is not Libya, Iraq and not even Syria. This is the DPRK and the Americans are well aware of this.


    Well, high morale is only in the pictures and while they are under the rule of their god. In Iraq, the army also boasted while it was near Hussein.
    At the very first shecher, this whole North Korean crowd will scatter.
    You have to be completely an idiot to fight for IT. They know how their southern brothers live and they are confident in their hearts that they hope and wait for their regime to fall.
  30. Nickanor
    Nickanor April 4 2013 13: 29
    +2
    In many pictures, the young leader has an openly blissful expression on his face, a constantly drooping jaw.
    And they really feel sorry for their fighters, and the rest of the people - zombie people, exhausted faces, poverty, idolatry, an absurd show against the background of outdated weapons - what is all this for? You look at the photos and you realize that you are in the middle of the last century. China also lives "with ideas", nevertheless, the difference is felt ...
  31. smprofi
    smprofi April 4 2013 13: 35
    +3
    and it's all?
    can add...











    1. svp67
      svp67 April 4 2013 13: 50
      +1
      What a variety of small arms they have and how they should "struggle" with providing ammunition, only the submachine guns and machine guns shown in the photo require three different types of cartridges ...
      1. smprofi
        smprofi April 4 2013 14: 16
        +2
        Quote: svp67
        they have to "struggle" with providing ammunition

        hmm ... and in the Soviet / Russian rifle platoon AKM / RPK - 7,62x39 (later, under AK-74 - 5,45 × 39), PK / SVD - 7.62x54R. tormented too or are tormented now?
    2. dmitry46
      dmitry46 April 4 2013 15: 10
      0
      Looking at the 1st and 3rd photo, I realized where all the string bags disappeared)))
      From North Koreans, they stole from us for the needs of their army)))
    3. dmitry46
      dmitry46 April 4 2013 15: 11
      +1
      Looking at the first 3 photos, I realized where all the string bags disappeared)))
      From North Koreans, they stole from us for the needs of their army)))
      1. Nagaibak
        Nagaibak April 4 2013 16: 56
        +1
        dmitry46 "North Koreans stole from us for the needs of their army)))"
        Probably rather the militia.
    4. fzr1000
      fzr1000 April 4 2013 15: 43
      +3
      Tar is cool.
      1. smprofi
        smprofi April 4 2013 15: 48
        +2
        Quote: fzr1000
        Tar is cool.

        there are two of them: DP and RPD
        1. fzr1000
          fzr1000 April 4 2013 17: 01
          +2
          I'm talking about DP - 27. soldier
      2. Nickanor
        Nickanor April 4 2013 17: 42
        0
        Especially in the second decade of the XXI century, when spacecraft plowed ... and fiction becomes a reality)
    5. Nickanor
      Nickanor April 4 2013 17: 57
      +1
      Three things were killed:
      - age of fighters, as in Petrovsky Russia periodically come across
      - Women participate in all this obscurantism along with men. Maybe they share the barracks together? ..
      - the complete absence of any equipment on the fighters - belt with ear flaps-machine
      1. Hon
        Hon April 4 2013 18: 41
        +1
        Quote: Nickanor
        Three things were killed:
        - age of fighters, as in Petrovsky Russia periodically come across
        - Women participate in all this obscurantism along with men. Maybe they share the barracks together? ..
        - the complete absence of any equipment on the fighters - belt with ear flaps-machine

        This is the Workers 'and Peasants' Red Guard (RKKG, from 1,4 to 3,8 million people), that is, a kind of US national guard. Hence the age, women and scarce ammunition
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  33. smprofi
    smprofi April 4 2013 13: 40
    +2
    continuation, all at once in 1 comment does not fit









    1. smprofi
      smprofi April 4 2013 13: 43
      +2






      Well, the video that in 3 days South Korea will be captured and 150 gringos will be captured

      1. Snoop
        Snoop April 4 2013 15: 35
        0
        In the second photo he has such a facial expression on the machine - what for G ...?))
        1. smprofi
          smprofi April 4 2013 15: 51
          +3
          Quote: Snoop
          he has such an expression

          that's better?

    2. Odysseus
      Odysseus April 4 2013 16: 15
      +1
      Great photos, thanks. J-7II and Mig-29 in full bandage were especially pleased.
      By the way, the J-7 looks surprisingly fresh.
  34. svp67
    svp67 April 4 2013 13: 56
    +2
    And "accordions" for the ceremonial entry into Seoul ... bully
    1. ramzes1776
      ramzes1776 April 4 2013 21: 44
      +1
      Quote: svp67
      And "accordions" for the ceremonial entry into Seoul ...

      These are not accordions, but military and technical equipment, like a piano with an antenna and a mouse laughing
  35. Jrvin
    Jrvin April 4 2013 14: 09
    0
    But I’m looking at them and it seems to me that they have a common idea and purpose, and you know it gives a lot ... remember how our grandfathers fought with the Nazis ... the same because there were only sticks from weapons ... and then nothing through self-sacrifice they snatched victory.
    1. Delta
      Delta April 4 2013 14: 25
      +1
      Quote: Jrvin
      the same after all from a weapon there were only sticks.

      this is where were some sticks ???
    2. Atrix
      Atrix April 4 2013 14: 34
      +1
      Quote: Jrvin
      But I’m looking at them and it seems to me that they have a common idea and purpose, and you know it gives a lot ... remember how our grandfathers fought with the Nazis ... the same because there were only sticks from weapons ... and then nothing through self-sacrifice they snatched victory.

      There was no fall why are you fooling people? The USSR may or may not have lagged behind Fascist Germany, but not as much as North Korea is lagging behind South; there, the gap in armaments is 50-60 years. So this is not a correct comparison.
    3. Hon
      Hon April 4 2013 15: 17
      +3
      Quote: Jrvin
      But I’m looking at them and it seems to me that they have a common idea and purpose, and you know it gives a lot ... remember how our grandfathers fought with the Nazis ... the same because there were only sticks from weapons ... and then nothing through self-sacrifice they snatched victory.

      It was in Mikhalkov’s films that our grandfathers fought with sticks while the far-armed commanders ate vodka. However, in reality there was no technical superiority of Germany over the union. In some types of weapons they lagged behind in some, they had superiority. By the end of the war, excelled in almost everything. And they fought not only selflessly but also skillfully.
    4. Kalita
      Kalita April 4 2013 19: 23
      +1
      Do not study the history of Hollywood films, read memoirs (now there are German in translation). Learn a lot, honestly, but about
      sticks there not a word!
  36. Mhpv
    Mhpv April 4 2013 14: 24
    0
    Quote: Jrvin
    But I’m looking at them and it seems to me that they have a common idea and purpose, and you know it gives a lot ... remember how our grandfathers fought with the Nazis ... the same because there were only sticks from weapons ... and then nothing through self-sacrifice they snatched victory.

    I agree with you. Amerikosy will not come to them openly, because for them it will be another Vietnam and Afghanistan. You look at how they are fanatically tuned, they are convinced that all their troubles are from the USA, the flywheel of propaganda is untwisted as it should. Well, pulling it into it Amers take over South Korea one more heavy burden, after all, the two-edged sword is obliged to help.
  37. alex0000
    alex0000 April 4 2013 14: 25
    +2
    The method of connecting a military Uber computer to the network, by plugging the wires into a 50-meter extension cord, without a plug, caused genuine admiration. And away from the clear eyes of the Führer.
  38. Shooter
    Shooter April 4 2013 14: 25
    0
    Quote: leon-iv

    For such an instructor in the BSP and TP to shoot a little clowns.


    Yes, and somehow camouflage is not suitable for coloring, they stand out very much on the ground. smile
    1. dmitry46
      dmitry46 April 4 2013 15: 07
      +1
      it’s special, so as not to shoot in your own way! )))
    2. svp67
      svp67 April 5 2013 04: 21
      +1
      But these guys on the background of rocks you can already not notice
  39. smprofi
    smprofi April 4 2013 15: 05
    +1
    once again it's a good idea to remind you that gringos are also good, not "white and fluffy"



    B-52 Stratofortress in "training flight" over South Korea. "train" regularly, from March 8th.

    near Pyeongtaek, Osan US Air Base



    1. Delta
      Delta April 4 2013 15: 10
      0
      Quote: smprofi
      once again it's a good idea to remind you that gringos are also good, not "white and fluffy"

      Observe your interests
    2. fzr1000
      fzr1000 April 4 2013 15: 42
      +2
      Of course I understand that I am pouring gasoline into the fire, but ... if there were clashes and the DPRK was lucky enough to fill up one of the Raptors, like F 117 in Yugoslavia ... Both China and Russia in exchange for the wreckage of 10 years would feed North Korean comrades for free.
      1. ramzes1776
        ramzes1776 April 4 2013 21: 49
        +1
        Quote: fzr1000
        if there were clashes and the DPRK was lucky to overwhelm one of the Raptors, like F 117 in Yugoslavia ... Both China and Russia in exchange for the wreckage of 10 years would feed North Korean comrades for free.

        Well there Raptor there is such a brilliant thing that we do not know and can not do?
    3. Odysseus
      Odysseus April 4 2013 16: 54
      0
      Great pics again drinks
      Both the F-16 and the Raptors look pretty good. But the Mig-21 / J-7 will kick their ass smile
  40. nagi
    nagi April 4 2013 15: 46
    +1
    The idea is that the soldiers of the North Korean army lack combat experience. Kim Jong-un should send his brigades to Syria to train soldiers in urban fighting on the side of Assad. North Korea and so in disgrace they have nothing to lose. And the Russian Federation, under the guise of fighting hunger in North Korea, delivered products to the DPRK to pay for the actions of DPRK soldiers on the territory of the SA.
    1. I think so
      I think so April 4 2013 17: 27
      0
      Did the Russians already grab their own food? As far as YOUR state statistics knows, you buy the crap yourself abroad ... up to 40% ... So that you yourself have not gone far from the DPRK in the sense of YOUR food ...
      1. Hon
        Hon April 4 2013 17: 38
        +1
        Quote: I think so
        Did the Russians already grab their own food? As far as YOUR state statistics knows, you buy the crap yourself abroad ... up to 40% ... So that you yourself have not gone far from the DPRK in the sense of YOUR food ...

        We not only buy and import, for example, Russia is the third largest grain producer in the world after the United States and the European Union. At the same time, agricultural imports are declining every year.
        1. I think so
          I think so April 4 2013 17: 50
          -2
          Dear, you generally know the meanings of the words "IMPORT", "EXPORT", so you insert your five cents and you don't even know the meaning of the words. They would search the Internet.
          And according to your remark, I’ll say: You EXPORT grain because you can’t use this grain for business and it rots. It turns out your EXPORT to you and to the detriment. The grain is CHEAP, and MEAT, fed with THIS grain, is bought EXPENSIVELY. So, to be proud of such an export - to be simply not in the know ...
          1. Hon
            Hon April 4 2013 18: 35
            +2
            Quote: I think so
            Dear, you generally know the meanings of the words "IMPORT", "EXPORT", so you insert your five cents and you don't even know the meaning of the words.

            Where are we poor and wretched to high knowledge of what export and import are?
            Quote: I think so
            And according to your remark, I’ll say: You EXPORT grain because you can’t use this grain for business and it rots. It turns out your EXPORT to you and to the detriment. The grain is CHEAP, and MEAT, fed with THIS grain, is bought EXPENSIVELY. So, to be proud of such an export - to be simply not in the know

            There are no problems with the grain shortage on the domestic market of the Russian Federation, we export only 20% of the produced grain, while still remaining third in the world. By the way, only marbled beef is fed with grain, in all other cases they use special compound feeds. The main importers of grain from Russia are Saudi Arabia, Iran, Italy, Spain, Israel, Tunisia, Morocco, Greece and Egypt, we do not import meat products from these countries. So what kind of meat do we buy fed our grain ?!
            The United States, obviously, also cannot use the grain produced at home because it is the world's largest exporter. And stupid Canadians simply don’t know where to use the dropped wheat.
            Perhaps you just read the article of some kind of homegrown pseudo-economist and imagined yourself very smart.
      2. Odysseus
        Odysseus April 4 2013 17: 46
        -1
        Quote: I think so
        Did the Russians already grab their own food? As far as YOUR state statistics knows, you buy the crap yourself abroad ... up to 40% ... So that you yourself have not gone far from the DPRK in the sense of YOUR food

        Yes, when oil prices fall in Russia, mass hunger will begin crying
        In that year alone, $ 40 billion worth of food was purchased.
        1. ramzes1776
          ramzes1776 April 4 2013 21: 53
          0
          Quote: Odyssey
          Yes, when oil prices fall in Russia, mass hunger will begin

          Russians have not yet become accustomed to growing vegetables in their gardens. So, we will not die of hunger, but we have plenty of bread.
      3. M. Peter
        M. Peter April 4 2013 19: 17
        +2
        Quote: I think so
        Did the Russians already grab their own food? As far as YOUR state statistics knows, you buy the crap yourself abroad ... up to 40% ... So that you yourself have not gone far from the DPRK in the sense of YOUR food ...


        There is the concept of food security. Russia provides for itself. With this, everything is fine with us, if something is imported there, it has nothing to do with food safety, because bananas do not grow here ...
        1. Odysseus
          Odysseus April 4 2013 20: 40
          +1
          Quote: M.Pyotr
          There is the concept of food security. Russia provides for itself. With this, everything is fine with us, if something is imported there

          Cattle stock
          in 1990-57 million. goals
          in 2012-20 million goals.
          No comment
          1. M. Peter
            M. Peter April 7 2013 14: 06
            0
            Quote: Odyssey
            The number of cattle in 1990 is 57 million. head 2012-20 million heads No comment

            And what does it mean that behind "No comment", like I was all exposed, we have a complete failure in terms of food security, or what?
  41. krokodil25
    krokodil25 April 4 2013 16: 18
    0
    And no one has considered such an option if the DPRK begins to lose, on their territory can they crash nuclear charges?
    1. I think so
      I think so April 4 2013 17: 25
      +1
      Why would they "on their own" if there is so much enemy around ...
      Tokyo, Okinawa, Guam, Hawaii.
      According to some reports, they can reach the US coast. This is where gifts will fly. Maybe some will fly by ...
      1. Hon
        Hon April 4 2013 17: 30
        +1
        Quote: I think so
        According to some reports, they can reach the US coast. This is where gifts will fly. Maybe some will fly by ...

        Given the quality of missiles, they can also boast in the Russian Federation.
        1. I think so
          I think so April 4 2013 17: 53
          0
          Do not worry about their normal rockets, especially medium-range ones. Strategic - but still little tested, and tactical and medium range are quite at the level ...
    2. Hon
      Hon April 4 2013 17: 27
      +1
      Quote: krokodil25
      And no one has considered such an option if the DPRK begins to lose, on their territory can they crash nuclear charges?

      Yes, from all these you can expect
      1. krokodil25
        krokodil25 April 4 2013 18: 10
        0
        Quote: Hon
        Yes, from all these you can expect


        Here I am about the same thing because fanatics are capable of anything !!!
  42. JackTheRipper
    JackTheRipper April 4 2013 18: 03
    +3
    On the faces of Koreans, fanaticism is noticeable, something that we lost in 1990, and also that in many ways can be a big advantage in a hypothetical military conflict.
    There is no former fanaticism in us

    and the Chinese and Koreans have it ...
    1. smprofi
      smprofi April 4 2013 19: 57
      +3
      Quote: JackTheRipper
      Not in us

      but it was ...

      1. AlNikolaich
        AlNikolaich April 4 2013 21: 27
        +1
        Patrio about Muert!
        Viva la revolution!
        Thank you, pleased with the video! hi
  43. Tan4ik
    Tan4ik April 4 2013 18: 15
    0
    Am I the only one who noticed a machine gun similar to "Bran"?
    1. smprofi
      smprofi April 4 2013 19: 54
      +1
      it is not Bren, i.e. Czech ZGB-33, and mine, Type 73 under Russian / Soviet cartridge 7.62x54R
    2. PiP
      PiP April 4 2013 20: 07
      +1
      TYPE-73 - aka under the general name "BREN" (for the appearance).
      smprofi correctly noticed initially this is a Czech. Submission of patricians can be from the main store or tape
      1. smprofi
        smprofi April 4 2013 20: 50
        +1
        Quote: PiP
        under the general name "BREN" (for the appearance).

        except for the appearance ...
        Here's what they say about Type 73:

        adopted by the Armed Forces of the DPRK in 1973 and is used in the DPRK up to the present. Outside the DPRK, this sample is known very little. The concept of a dual-feed machine gun (magazine / tape) was probably borrowed from the Czechoslovak machine gun Vz.52, the general layout and arrangement of the main components was from the Soviet Kalashnikov PC machine gun.

        The Type 73 light machine gun uses gas exhaust automation, locking the barrel by turning the shutter. Fire is conducted from the open shutter, only in automatic mode. Air-cooled barrel, fast. The power supply is double - cartridges of original design with a capacity of 30 rounds inserted into the weapon from above can be used, or an unbroken metal tape with a closed link from a Kalashnikov machine gun PC. The machine gun is equipped with a wooden butt, a pistol grip and a folding metal bipod. Sights are shifted to the left of the axis of the weapon. A distinctive feature of the Type 73 light machine gun is the presence of interchangeable muzzle attachments that are screwed over the barrel in front of the gas block. The machine gun is equipped with two types of nozzles - one with a muzzle brake compensator in the front and the second with a tubular external guide for launching rifle grenades. One of the muzzle attachments is usually placed directly on the barrel, the second (currently unused) is mounted under the gas pipe of the machine gun.


        but Czech / Bren:

        The Bren light machine gun is an automatic air-cooled quick-change barrel weapon. Automation gas vent machine gun with a long stroke gas piston located under the barrel. The gas vent mechanism is equipped with a manual four-position regulator. The barrel is locked tilting the back of the shutter up. The ammunition is supplied from a 30-round ammunition box magazine attached to the top (for the Bren Mk.1 variant, 100-cartridge disk magazines were also produced, which were abandoned during the war because of their high cost), the spent cartridges are thrown down. The machine gun allowed the conduct of single and automatic fire, the fire mode translator is located on the left above the pistol grip. The design feature of the machine gun was that the receiver with the barrel and all the mechanisms had the ability to roll back along the long guides of the trigger mechanism relative to the stock, which reduced recoil and increased the stability of the weapon when firing.


        "slightly" different automatics - different machine guns. although the appearance is really confusing
        1. PiP
          PiP April 4 2013 21: 01
          +1
          smprofi I agree completely. good Somewhere I came across infa that it (73) is used as a symbol of encouragement (like a "rolling Red Banner"), but I cannot vouch for it
  44. sprut
    sprut April 4 2013 20: 38
    +1
    In general, VO is a cool site. Fine!
  45. vjhbc
    vjhbc April 4 2013 20: 41
    0
    I’m looking at Un and it’s like some kind of foreign object in these photos, as if photoshop had the same feeling as a flying saucer in my yard
  46. tuts
    tuts April 4 2013 20: 47
    -1
    Quote: BruderV
    Quote: tots
    The question is whether South Korea is ready for a protracted war

    The question is whether the DPRK is ready at all. In a couple of months, cannibalism will begin. If in peacetime, rice on coupons.


    DPRK is North Korea
    1. BruderV
      BruderV April 4 2013 21: 18
      0
      Quote: tots
      DPRK is North Korea

      What is the truth?
      1. tuts
        tuts April 4 2013 21: 39
        -1
        yeah in the DPRK live zombies guzzling each other, etc. ...

        Look further the western zombie ...
        1. BruderV
          BruderV April 4 2013 22: 11
          +1
          Quote: tots
          Look further the western zombie ...

          Do you get all the news first hand? Not one of these?
          1. tuts
            tuts April 4 2013 22: 18
            0
            I receive the news from translations of the foreign press which is designed to brainwash the bourgeoisie and comparing it with reality. Well, I do not observe massive refugee camps in China, Russia and South Korea, only dissidents
            1. BruderV
              BruderV April 4 2013 23: 01
              0
              Well, of course, it’s not calm in the world, it’s better at home.

              or as
              http://www.rulez-t.info/foto_pics/11289-anti-amerikanskaya-propaganda-iz-severno
              j-korei.html
      2. tuts
        tuts April 4 2013 22: 05
        -2
        North Korea is ready to launch a nuclear strike against the United States ("BBCRussian.com", Great Britain) http://inosmi.ru/world/20130404/207689477.html

        Why the North Korean regime inspires fear ("CNN", USA) http://inosmi.ru/world/20130330/207540724.html

        it's probably they have nothing to eat so they fucking up by state

        PS do not forget to put a minus wink
        1. BruderV
          BruderV April 4 2013 22: 15
          +2
          Quote: tots
          do not forget to put a minus

          Well, there’s nothing more to do. Am I a shkolota chtoli? Not me minus.
          1. tuts
            tuts April 4 2013 22: 31
            0
            per shkolota +
  47. nok01
    nok01 April 4 2013 22: 09
    0
    Poor country, poor people, what else can you say ....
  48. Hius-124
    Hius-124 April 4 2013 22: 16
    0
    Yeah ......... photo of how I visited the theater of the absurd, with naive midgets cast. Sorry for them, if that. These women with silly faces in 2 photos, the feeling - that this is not real, some kind of props. Beggars, holy believers, ready to die ... But this is our work, but we abandoned them, and now we betrayed !!!! request It’s even a shame. What are the chances there - NO! These children will simply die for the idea and on orders and EVERYTHING. crying Sad.
  49. satellite
    satellite April 4 2013 22: 56
    -1
    They would be daredevil to a peaceful course, they are fanatics.
  50. Gray-haired777
    Gray-haired777 April 4 2013 23: 28
    +3
    Quote: Rubik
    If DPRK does not help China and Russia, then there is no chance. In the 50s they could not win

    In the 50th in June, for the first 3 days of fighting, the North Koreans occupied Seoul, and in 20 days of the war 90% of the territory of South Korea without the help of the USSR and China.

    Do not intervene the United States, there would be no country South Korea ...
    The Americans themselves fought and supplied arms to South Korea.
    And the whole of Western Europe helped the Americans, supposedly under the auspices of the UN.
    In the first months of intervention in the US war, they suffered heavy casualties in manpower and equipment.
    The Soviet Union began to help in October 1950 from the air.

    And the fact that the DPRK is a backward country is to blame for the United States ...
    Various kinds of economic sanctions, etc., do nothing good.

    The collapse of the USSR is also the work of the United States, the Cold War, the arms race, artificially lowering oil prices, etc.

    Moreover, the Americans themselves live duty. The US national debt is 17 trillion, and the total debt is over 100 trillion.