Combat power of militant DPRK in photos

The Korea Central Telegraph Agency issued images of military exercises, training of soldiers and of course Supreme Leader Kim Jong-un checking and inspiring troops. The UN Security Council ponders how likely the start of a nuclear war on the Korean Peninsula is, the world wonders how realistic the combat power of the militant North Korea is as a whole.
I suggest that you yourself think about the reality of the North Korean threats by looking at a small selection of photos that have flown around the world:

Artillery drills, 14 March 2013. (© Reuters / KCNA)

Artillery drills in the western sector of the front, 14 March 2013. (© Reuters / KCNA)

Kim Jong-un talks with soldiers who take part in anti-amphibious exercises, 25 March 2013. (© Reuters / KCNA)

North Korean leader Kim Jong-un looks at the latest developed combat and technical equipment assembled at the 1501 site by the People's Army Bash, March 24 2013. (© Reuters / KCNA)

Artillery drills, 14 March 2013. (© Reuters / KCNA)

North Korean soldiers participate in military exercises, 11 March 2013. (© Reuters / KCNA)

Korean people's army conducts military exercises.

North Korean leader Kim Jong Un monitors anti-amphibious exercises in the eastern coastal zone, 25 March 2013. (© Reuters / KCNA)

North Korean members of the Workers 'and Peasants' Red Guards participate in military training, 13 March 2013. (© Reuters / KCNA)

Kim Jong-un checks the long-range artillery unit of 641 object of the Korean People’s Army. (© KNS / AFP / Getty Images)

Kim Jong-un and the officers are watching from the hill for the flight and the teachings of parachutists at the 630 object of the Korean People’s Army. (© Reuters / KCNA)

North Korean artillery, designed to attack the islands of South Korea Daeyeonpyeong and Pennendo, participates in military exercises to establish combat capabilities in the western sector of the front. (© Reuters / KCNA)

Kim Jong-un is heading to the island of Volnai in the western sector of North Korea near the disputed sea border with South Korea. (© KNS / AFP / Getty Images)

Kim Jong-eun greets troops on the 641 long-range artillery unit during a visit to front-line military units near the border island of Pennendo. Kim called on front-line troops to be in a state of maximum alert. The state newspaper of Pyongyang warned of the threat of abolishing the 1953 truce of the year, which put an end to the Korean War. (© AP Photo / KCNA via KNS)

Kim Jong-un leaves the island of the defense detachment of the wave after an inspection in the western sector of North Korea. (© KNS / AFP / Getty Images)

North Korean soldiers participate in military exercises, 20 March 2013. (© Reuters / KCNA)

Women from an artillery detachment move a rocket launcher during anti-amphibious exercises on the east coast of North Korea, 25 March 2013. (© KCNA VIA KNS / AFP / Getty Images)

Soldiers of the Korean People’s Army are taking part in anti-airborne exercises on the east coast, 25 March 2013. (© Reuters / KCNA)

Anti-airborne exercises on the east coast, 25 March, 2013. (© Reuters / KCNA)

Soldiers of the Korean People’s Army take part in military exercises, March 6 2013. (© KNS / AFP / Getty Images)

Kim Jong-un looks at the combat equipment developed at the 1501 facility of the Korean Peoples Army, 24 March 2013. (© Reuters / KCNA)

North Korean soldiers taking part in military exercises. (© Reuters / KCNA)

Kim Jong Un looks through binoculars during a visit to the defense islands of Jangjae and Mu, southwest of Pyongyang, March 7 2013. (© Reuters / KCNA)

Comments

[fzr1000]

The weapons, of course, are quite outdated, hi 60-70th, and the rocket mortars are similar to the German ones, but Eun is going to crush the quantity. During breaks between air raids, he will munch from all the barrels. A la Normandy 1944. But the Germans lost with such tactics, so something else will have to oppose the enemy.

[djon3volta]

if South Korea will not be helped by amers, the DPRK will conquer them without problems. The conclusion is that South Korea is weaker than the DPRK.

[Hon]

The military budget is almost $ 30 billion, the equipment is the most modern. In the event of war, air superiority will be complete, due to the backwardness of the DPRK aviation and outdated air defense systems. The DPRK army is twice as large as the army of the Republic of Kazakhstan, but the southerners have a greater mobilization reserve. The soldiers are well trained, the army is constantly conducting exercises and preparing for war.

[smprofi]

the soldiers of South Korea really have serious training. his father taught at the Academy and had students from Vietnam, colonel-lieutenant colonels who went through the war with gringos and hunhuzes. so, the Vietnamese spoke very respectfully of the South Koreans, in particular the White Horse division (White Horse, fought in Vietnam): a smart and cunning opponent, well suited for war in the jungle, with good American weapons.

[tuts]

The question is whether South Korea is ready for a protracted war

[BruderV]

Quote: tots

The question is whether South Korea is ready for a protracted war

The question is whether the DPRK is ready at all. In a couple of months, cannibalism will begin. If in peacetime, rice on coupons.

[Misantrop]

Quote: BruderV

The question is whether the DPRK is ready at all. In a couple of months, cannibalism will begin. If in peacetime, rice on coupons.

Debatable. There are probably gigantic-sized warehouses (including food). So in the event of a global war, the North Koreans will probably be the last to feel REAL HUNGER

[Misantrop]

Interestingly, the "democrats" who instructed the minuses themselves ever lived under the rationing system? Real, and not the one that their leaders scare from the screens of zombie boxes? When there is no need to rush to the shops in search of at least something edible and cheaper, and in the nearest place of residence (to which it is attached), you can always buy a full set of essential goods and at a fixed price. And in the free sale the surplus from the brought is laid out. Which is also there, since the locals are quite satisfied with what they have on the cards, so the shelves are not empty.
By the way, everyone is serving in the DPRK, so the food mob is simply obliged to be on ALL as well (as it will stand out on everyone, without democratic theft and speculation). Although, ... what can be convinced of those who without power theft and fraud close to the authorities of the crooks of life do not imagine ...

[Gluxar_]

Quote: Hon

The military budget is almost $ 30 billion, the equipment is the most modern. In the event of war, air superiority will be complete, due to the backwardness of the DPRK aviation and outdated air defense systems. The DPRK army is twice as large as the army of the Republic of Kazakhstan, but the southerners have a greater mobilization reserve. The soldiers are well trained, the army is constantly conducting exercises and preparing for war.

At purchasing power parity, military budgets are comparable. The moral readiness for war among the northerners exceeds the mood of the southerners by an order of magnitude. The resilience of economies to hostilities is not comparable, because the DPRK has been living in a state of war for 60 years and is preparing for it. The same applies to the population. Therefore, simply comparing the mobilization resource is not correct. If the DPRK can really put up to 7kk fighters under arms, equip them according to the state, then South Korea has only a hypothetical advantage because the population is not ready to fight only with a machine gun. Comparing the Air Force and Air Defense is difficult and its composition is not known reliably. The likelihood of saturation with Chinese counterparts of the S-300 is extremely high. In this case, the most populated areas of the Republic of Kazakhstan are in the radius of action of the DPRK, and this actually means the defeat in the war of the United States and its allies.
Moreover, the presence of nuclear devices or nuclear weapons nullifies large-scale operations of the allies. And this will lead to the leveling of the technological level of the belligerents, because the classical scenario of a total preponderance of "forces and means" in any particular sector of the front will not be able to collect. And a war on a wide front means huge losses, for which the DPRK soldiers are better prepared.
With any development of the military situation, Seoul is guaranteed to receive unacceptable damage and regardless of how the offensive of the DPRK develops, their rear areas will be closed for many months. It will not be possible to strike at them that will crush the DPRK; in fact, there is not even a guarantee of the survival of US aviation over the fortified territory of the DPRK. And this means that in fact a tangible blow to the DPRK can be delivered only by cruise missiles, the limit of which is limited. And even if you collect all of them from all fleets and bases, they will not be enough to seriously damage the DPRK infrastructure. In this case, the likelihood of a catastrophic humanitarian situation is equally probable in both the DPRK and the Republic of Kazakhstan, but the first is morally more resistant to this. And it is obvious that such a situation will lead to the need to find an acceptable political solution, which eliminates the possibility of unconditional defeat of the DPRK.
What is the result, and so it is clear. The US is losing the region to China.

[Rubik]

If DPRK does not help China and Russia, then there is no chance. In the 50s they could not win, but in the 50s they were stronger, while the southerners, on the contrary, were weaker. Now the southerners are not the same then, then they were a poor peasant country, and now it is a rich industrial power armed with more modern American weapons.

[Nik one]

Neither Russia nor China are going to help the DPRK.

[Skuto]

How to win beautifully, less costly, and without invading North Korea.
1. Provoke the DPRK Armed Forces to launch an invasion of South Korea (it's not difficult to set a fire in a powder magazine).
2. Retreat and defend, the more forces to cross the border from the north, the better. Perhaps even retreat from Seoul.
What will happen: South Korea will be considered a victim of aggression, North Korea - an aggressor in the eyes of the world community. In this situation, the Russian Federation will not openly act on the side of the aggressor, so as not to ultimately undermine its international authority. The PRC, like the USSR in its time with Iraq, will have to condemn the aggressor.

Further, the high command of the DPRK is already openly beginning to celebrate the victory, but the simple soldiers themselves will see firsthand the realities of the "rotten Western world." The fermentation of minds begins. Then the forces of the United States and the Republic of Kazakhstan begin to strike at the DPRK’s extended communications: the command loses touch with the advanced detachments. There is complete disorganization.

Now begins the counterattack with all the power of the combined forces. The DPRK forces are fleeing, since it is one thing to guard the homeland in the trenches and it is another to be an aggressor in a hostile country, but living a hundredfold better.
Persistent air strikes sow death and panic, a large number of demilitarized zones blown up in minefields. Together with the North Koreans, RK agitators enter the territory of the DPRK.

The front is stabilizing where it was before aggression. This is where the revolution begins.

[Odysseus]

Quote: Skuto

How to win beautifully, less costly, and without invading North Korea.
1. Provoke the DPRK Armed Forces to launch an invasion of South Korea (it's not difficult to set a fire in a powder magazine).
2. Retreat and defend, the more forces to cross the border from the north, the better. Perhaps even retreat from Seoul.
What will happen: South Korea will be considered a victim of aggression, North Korea - an aggressor in the eyes of the world community. In this situation, the Russian Federation will not openly act on the side of the aggressor, so as not to ultimately undermine its international authority. The PRC, like the USSR in its time with Iraq, will have to condemn the aggressor.

Not bad, but not working. It is impossible to provoke DPRK to aggression. They are not fools to sign their own death sentence. Their warlike rhetoric is primarily directed inward, and not outside the country.
The whole point of the situation is that the United States and South Caucasus can formally win the war by bombing the DPRK in the Stone Age, but at the same time, the DPRK manages to destroy Seoul with the help of TR, OTR, which makes sense of the war from the point of view of the South Caucasus.
That is, speaking in a chess language, a stalemate was created here.
To beat such a situation, however, is possible indefinitely.

[Skuto]

Victory will be in the minds of North Korean soldiers. they will experience a culture shock from the standard of living in South Korea, somewhat akin to the one experienced by the Red Army in 1945 in Europe, only the situation will be worse: here the war is not going to win, and the people are not alien, but their own in essence.
Seoul’s loss is a major blow, but worth the bargain for the prospect of a united Korea. My fabrications are just a geopolitical game no more. Minuses? Minus))) I'm used to say what I think, and not follow the rating.

Aggression is not difficult to unleash. Start the first pile on the counterpart)))

[BruderV]

Quote: Skuto

Perhaps even retreat from Seoul

What the hell? I was thinking like that in the 9th probably in the distant nineties. The script is better. A war is declared and the South Caucasus, with complete dominance in the air, is bombarded with cluster bombs marching in orderly rows of northerners. What will survive snipers with the help of thermal imaging sights, while the northerners can not even understand where the fire is being fired from, on the very first night their losses will be such that any Vietnam will seem like a kindergarten. The only thing that the DPRK can count on is massive shelling of the first two three days of the war, until the positions are crushed.

Quote: Odyssey

formally win the war by bombing the DPRK in the Stone Age, but at the same time the DPRK manages to destroy Seoul with the help of TR, OTR

Nobody can explain to me where the rockets will start to fly to Seoul. From any point in the DPRK, a launch missile will be hit by anyone ... F-16 is not like a missile defense system.

[Odysseus]

Quote: BruderV

Nobody can explain to me where the rockets will start to fly to Seoul. From any point in the DPRK, a launch missile will be hit by anyone ... F-16 is not like a missile defense system.

I already told you once that F-16s do not shoot down OTR. And even cited an article on the combat use of the Patriots in Iraq.
http://pentagonus.ru/publ/109-1-0-140
For the Patriot Pak-2 group deployed in the South Caucasus, it is realistic to intercept 70-75% of the DPRK missiles. The remaining is enough.
Moreover, Seoul is in the reach of direct artillery fire. Of course, extremely inaccurate, but still.

[BruderV]

Quote: Odyssey

I already told you once that F-16s don't shoot down OTR

No, I don’t remember. Once again, you can find out why? Is this a highly maneuverable hypersonic target? And here you have the distant 2007th year http://lenta.ru/news/2007/12/05/intercept/

[Odysseus]

Quote: BruderV

Once again, you can find out why?

Because the flight time is 3-5 minutes and it flies into the stratosphere, and you can destroy warheads too.
In reality, even the usual RC for a fighter is a very difficult goal, but there’s no need to talk about OTR.

Quote: BruderV

http://lenta.ru/news/2007/12/05/intercept/

It is possible in ideal conditions with a specially equipped aircraft to destroy one missile and it is possible. But from this experience to the interception of all DPRK missiles, the distance is enormous.
By the way, what kind of rocket is Orion? I know the plane, I heard about the spaceship, but hu from the Orion rocket?

[BruderV]

Quote: Odyssey

By the way, what kind of rocket is Orion?

Most likely this one, but I don’t know for sure
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bold_Orion

[BruderV]

Quote: BruderV

Most likely this one, but I don’t know for surehttp: //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bold_Orion

But I’m not lying, it was a high-altitude research rocket, not a ballistic one. I don’t know anything about her, the usual training goal for low money, as is the case in such cases.

[Gluxar_]

Quote: BruderV

What the hell? I was thinking like that in the 9th probably in the distant nineties. The script is better. A war is declared and the South Caucasus, with complete dominance in the air, is bombarded with cluster bombs marching in orderly rows of northerners. What will survive snipers with the help of thermal imaging sights, while the northerners can not even understand where the fire is being fired from, on the very first night their losses will be such that any Vietnam will seem like a kindergarten. The only thing that the DPRK can count on is massive shelling of the first two three days of the war, until the positions are crushed.

The situation is somewhat different. When the DPRK inflicts a missile and artillery attack on the positions of the Republic of Kazakhstan and the capital Seoul, the losses will be so shocking that the political leadership will simply lose control of the situation. When the artillery works in tens of thousands of barrels, counter-battery work loses its meaning, they will cover it again. Here, who was the first to shoot back. and the advantage here is on the DPRK side. China is a longtime ally of the DPRK and its air defense systems in the conflict zone will show themselves. The RK does not have any significant superiority in aviation, because the theater of operations is quite limited and the concentration of air defense forces there is super dense. Even old systems with such a concentration will not give a chance to 250 RK aircraft to survive. Moreover, the DPRK was preparing to confront not only the Republic of Kazakhstan, but also the United States and Japan combined. And since they take such drastic steps, they consider that they have completed their homework.
As a result, both Kazakhstan and the United States will suffer such colossal losses on the second day that they will be forced to enter into negotiations and bargain for peace.

[tuts]

they’ll definitely refuse to help with food

[AlNikolaich]

Quote: Rubik

because in 50 they were stronger, and southerners, on the contrary, were weaker.

So in the 50 years of South Korea, it would not have happened if the mattress had not harnessed for it! And noted with southerners in the northern territories the use of chemical and biological weapons, the mass destruction of people and atrocities! Hence the hatred of the DPRK citizens for the amers and southerners!
Now everyone is repeating about the odious policy of the DPRK. And if you think about it, when the threat of annihilation hangs over the people of 60 for years, you will do anything to protect yourself! And this is the fault of the Americans! There would now be a single DPRK without the artificially created, puppet southern neighbor and there would not be such problems! An example of this is Vietnam!

[nerd.su]

Quote: Rubik

If DPRK does not help China and Russia, then there is no chance

If the USA does not help South Korea, then it will last no more than a month ... People win, not weapons.

[BruderV]

Quote: bot.su

If the USA does not help South Korea, then it will last no more than a month

On the calculator counted or in a column?

[nerd.su]

Quote: BruderV

On the calculator counted or in a column?

And what, do not use accounts in your stall?
There is such a method, an analogy is called. I understand that for those who are only familiar with the "calculator" and the calculation in a column, it is difficult to think abstractly, but I will try to explain.
In 1950, it took the northerners about a month and a half to capture 90% of the territory of South Korea. At the same time, the strength of the DPRK army was even slightly less than the Republic of Kazakhstan. True, there was an advantage in aviation and armored vehicles. Now the high-quality side of the DPRK’s equipment may be slightly inferior to South Korea, but the size of the army, especially special forces, as well as almost 200 defense enterprises built underground, guarantee North Korea’s victory with the non-intervention of third forces.

[Gluxar_]

Quote: bot.su

If the USA does not help South Korea, then it will last no more than a month ... People win, not weapons.

Where is the month from? After the first strike, the government will become incompetent. Democracies are unstable to equivalent losses, they can only fight far from their economic centers. France won Germany, too, in the 39th, was about to roll out ... but it did not work out. It will be the same here.

[kubanec]

in the 50s, the North Koreans fought not only with the southerners but also with the UN troops, led by the United States and almost threw them into the sea !!!!!! the main thing is still fighting spirit. the northerners have nothing to lose, but the southerners will have to forget the sweet life ...

[self-propelled]

resembles a piano and also touches the antenna. looks like a props isn't it window dressing?
But seriously, no matter what, the DPRK army is combat-ready. and even if the weapons are far from the most modern ... after all, it is not technology that wins, but man

[leon-iv]

still touches the antenna
The usual anter with a high degree of probability from the waffle.

[Thunderbolt]

Quote: self-propelled

resembles a piano

Each country has its own peculiarities. In the Russian Federation - "black suitcase", in the DPRK - "black piano"))) By the way, did you notice the wheels? ...... mobile

[PARTISAN]

Have you noticed the big red button on the mouse? And the fact that the wire is plugged into a socket on a reel without a plug is also not noticed?

[mejik]

this is not a cape ... trackball

[Thunderbolt]

Quote: PARTISAN

Have you noticed the big red button on the mouse?

Yeah ...... If only they provided a protective casing, otherwise some bumblebee will sit on this "button" and that's it --- no more North America

[boots]

I play the piano!

[Ruslan67]

Quote: Thunderbolt

", in the DPRK -" black piano "))

Alexey Made on the basis of the piano. Red October. Efficiency depends on the presence of a musical ear for the operator.

[PiP]

Quote: self-propelled

isn't it window dressing?

Definitely window dressing ("compact parabolic" (c) Genius). There are a lot of pictures and videos with outdated weapons. Everything looks like a production. Are women and men and pensioners in the same ranks? Men and women run out of the same barracks - do they have a common barracks? Painfully similar to reservists at the training camp, in this case the old weapons are justified. I'm afraid no one really saw the DPRK army

[PiP]

ss
I forgot to add about this "masquerade" on the photos - pay attention to the three fighters in the boat with Eun'om. Does anyone really not notice the difference with other fighters from the entire collection of photos? What is this screw shop they have?

[self-propelled]

Quote: PiP

Really nobody notices differences with other fighters from all selection of photos? What is their screw shop?

The protection of the leader is armed with a modernized Kalashnikov assault rifle. A distinctive feature of the "Korean Kalashnikov" is a large auger store.

[PiP]

Is the store capacity known? The trunk is probably thicker. Rate of fire, range, ammunition? WHO KNOWS? And there are more than a few such surprises.

[not good]

But how big Red button

[Delta]

Quote: self-propelled

resembles a piano

no, it’s Eun replenishes the account in I Box

[tuts]

about mouse

http://www.nix.ru/autocatalog/mouse_logitech/Logitech_TrackMan_Marble_USB_4btn_9
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[ramzes1776]

The North Korean army is strong with its special forces:

The number of special forces of the Korean People’s Army is estimated to range from 88 (the magazine "Foreign Military Review") to 000 (the military department of South Korea) military personnel. Five special tasks are entrusted to special forces:

conducting reconnaissance and sabotage operations;
operations in conjunction with the regular armed forces of the KPA;
the organization of a “second front” in the rear of the army of South Korea and, ultimately, the achievement of strategic superiority;
counteraction to special operations of military intelligence of the USA and South Korea in the rear areas of the DPRK;
the fight against anti-government forces within the country and ensuring internal security. [1]

Structurally, KPA special forces are divided into three categories: light infantry (takes part in combat operations conducted together with company or battalion level units), reconnaissance (as part of separate teams they search for intelligence or targeted information) and sniper units (tasks are the same as the light infantry, but carried out by separate teams). Organizational special forces are represented by 22 (possibly 23) brigades (including two naval landing sniper brigades, one on the east coast and the other on the west coast). The special forces also include 18 separate battalions (17 reconnaissance, including naval and air force reconnaissance battalions, and 1 airborne assault).
The special forces are led by the two main structures of the DPRK Ministry of People’s Armed Forces: the Special Forces Command Directorate (central governing structure) and the Intelligence Directorate (the primary intelligence structure that carries out the planning of "penetration operations" and the management of the undercover apparatus).

[misljachii]

In the photographs of many soldiers, various badges hang, it’s interesting, they just hung them, or do you really need to earn them with your sweat and work?

[fartfraer]

they have constant military operations (lately it wasn’t heard, but before quite often clashes took place). I hope it’s clear in this case where the rewards come from?)

[Delta]

Quote: fartfraer

they have constant military operations (lately it wasn’t heard, but before quite often clashes took place). I hope it’s clear in this case where the rewards come from?)

earlier - when? if in the 50s, then it’s cool for a long time that their soldiers are ordinary soldiers))))

[fartfraer]

yes, indeed)) in the 50s)) and the fact that in the 90s they drowned a sabotage submarine off the coast of the yuk, and then it turned out that she had already released saboteurs and was walking back) and then they caught saboteurs, but didn’t catch)) so in the 90s, sk and yuk periodically collided))

[Delta]

Quote: fartfraer

so in the 90s ck and yuk periodically collided

and for this every second SOLDIER has several awards?

[hunting]

Northerners will win not to see us Samsung with hyunday the southerners will win pin.dos.nya will be even closer. What is good for Russia? Maybe let them unite? And not yet in the subject: Ban Ki-moon being formerly President (or Woof of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs) Yu. Korea could not solve the issue of uniting one people, but still there, now wants to resolve the problems of the whole world. Proposal: to remove from the post of UN Secretary General for professional unsuitability.

[djon3volta]

Why do we need this unification? It is unnecessary for Russia! Since the days of Stalin, the USSR has made buffer zones around Russia in the form of friendly countries, these are China, the DPRK, Asian states, the eastern bloc, they all entered the second echelon of the buffer, the first echelon was made up The USSR, that is, those who have disconnected, Ukraine, Tajikistan, the Baltic states, etc., created a double barrier against the enemies around the USSR !!! now we have no one left except China, the DPRK, Belarus, Kazakhstan, that is, a gap has been created near our borders. in the west and in Russia they understand this very well. perevooruzhatsya accounts and conduct large-scale exercises.

[Atrix]

Quote: hunt

Northerners will win not to see us Samsung with hyunday the southerners will win pin.dos.nya will be even closer. What is good for Russia? Maybe let them unite? And not yet in the subject: Ban Ki-moon being formerly President (or Woof of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs) Yu. Korea could not solve the issue of uniting one people, but still there, now wants to resolve the problems of the whole world. Proposal: to remove from the post of UN Secretary General for professional unsuitability.

Why South Korea will unite with a poor country, it will so undermine the economy of South Korea that they will recover in 30-50 years only. It should also be borne in mind that if unification occurs, then probably 30-40% of North Korea will try to move to South, which will entail their problems. In general, South Korea is completely unprofitable

[Nik one]

Yes, Germany, too, the association was not profitable. Only the question is different, no one will allow this association, because neither the United States nor China is beneficial in any way.

[Hon]

And for Russia, unification is also not beneficial, because in this case we will get a strong state with a strong army that has territorial claims.

[AlNikolaich]

Quote: Nik One

Yes, Germany, too, the association was not profitable

Of course unprofitable! GDR was one of the ten most developed countries in the world, and what happened in the eastern lands after unification? As the saying goes, what we have is not stored, we lose, weep ...
And the question is only propaganda! Many in the GDR were seduced by the charms of a consumer society, and as a result, the standard of living in a united Germany fell. And only by the 2000 years rose a little ...

[BruderV]

Quote: AlNikolaich

and what happened in the eastern lands after unification?

So what happened in the eastern lands after unification? Instead Trabantov on Mercedes and Volks moved? Monsters what.

[AlNikolaich]

Quote: BruderV

Instead Trabantov on Mercedes and Volks moved? Monsters what.

Think consumer! The East Germans were deceived by the Volks and Mercians! And as a result, in exchange for rusty carts and other "values" they lost their enterprises, jobs and hope for tomorrow! And they have become a burden to the western lands!

[BruderV]

Quote: AlNikolaich

in exchange for rusty carts, they lost their businesses, jobs and hope for tomorrow!

Then there is a rabble from all over the world hiding in order to taste the hopelessness of tomorrow. There unemployed now receive more benefits than I work. And if there is any Musa with 10 children, then they will give him a mansion and he will shik on children's allowances.

[Hon]

Quote: AlNikolaich

Think consumer! The East Germans were deceived by the Volks and Mercians! And as a result, in exchange for rusty carts and other "values" they lost their enterprises, jobs and hope for tomorrow! And they have become a burden to the western lands!

There are many factories in Germany, which means a lot of work. What hope did the inhabitants of the GDR lose? Merkel was also born in the GDR, and what prevented her from getting a job in life?

[Hon]

Quote: Atrix

Why South Korea will unite with a poor country, it will so undermine the economy of South Korea that they will recover in 30-50 years only. It should also be borne in mind that if unification occurs, then probably 30-40% of North Korea will try to move to South, which will entail their problems. In general, South Korea is completely unprofitable

If not for ideological reasons, Korea would have long been united. What are the benefits for the south? Well, for example, in a large number of cheap labor, and this makes it possible not to divert production to China. The northerners are certainly poor but they are not parasites, for them there will certainly be work in united Korea.

[Gluxar_]

Quote: Atrix

Why South Korea will unite with a poor country, it will so undermine the economy of South Korea that they will recover in 30-50 years only. It should also be borne in mind that if unification occurs, then probably 30-40% of North Korea will try to move to South, which will entail their problems. In general, South Korea is completely unprofitable

Still go tell it to Germany.

[StolzSS]

I support! Drive the pan in the suture)))

[Vladimirets]

I caught myself thinking that I feel sorry for them, I feel sorry for them as people, exhausted faces, dressed hell you understand what, they don’t see anything and don’t have, a miracle has replaced the old leaders.

[Denis_SF]

The same thought passed, a bargaining chip, complete futility ..

[StolzSS]

You are wrong about something. Pride and patriotism ...

[Hon]

Quote: StolzSS

You are wrong about something. Pride and patriotism ...

Allow free travel abroad and proud patriots will flee migrant workers around the world.

[svp67]

Quote: Vladimirets

I caught myself thinking that I feel sorry for them, I feel sorry for them as people, exhausted faces, dressed hell you’ll understand what, they don’t see and don’t have anything, a miracle replaced the old leaders

The form, of course, not from "Yudashkin" but from natural fabrics. And notice how many people are armed, and the "miracle" is not afraid of this. It says the same thing ...

[fartfraer]

Do you remember when the conscripts in "beautiful" uniforms froze in Novosibirsk? For those like these critics, they invented shoulder straps on the belly, etc. "charms", but for me it is so felt boots and sheepskin coats, as well as quilted jackets, you should always have a margin.
experts of each other are "more authoritative")) - some form is not beautiful, others are old weapons)) I served on a conscript with a 64-year-old AKM, and nothing is a machine, you know)

[Delta]

Quote: fartfraer

I served urgently with the Akm 64 model year, and nothing machine, you know)

You, fortunately, did not have to fight with him. In battle, obsolete and worn weapons will immediately make themselves felt

[smprofi]

Quote: Delta

obsolete and worn weapons

worn out - yes, not good.
but the "outdated" ... somehow climbed the shooting forums, so they praise the SVD until 1975 of release (or a little earlier, that’s not the point) and later criticize: the workmanship is not that. with a bayonet with knives, already my experience - similarly.
also crossed paths with one guy. he served in a hot spot in the 90s. made him a sniper after the qualifying rounds. so he was armed with a "mosinka" with the stigma of "his imperial majesty an arms factory ..." (by the way, at the same shooting forums, people chase after three-line precisely pre-revolutionary issues. unless, of course, the barrel is not worn out)

[Delta]

Quote: smprofi

but "outdated"

Why then would the armies of the world develop new weapons? let them fight "Boers", after all, a powerful thing.

[smprofi]

Quote: Delta

Why would the armies of the world develop new weapons?

start with the fact that the army is not developing weapons. and weapons oh what a lucrative commodity!

recently "anecdote" flashed: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-21701588
a bloke named James McCormick was selling "bomb detectors" (and specifically to Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Georgia and Niger) for up to $ 40,000 (£ 27,000). at the same time, his firm Advanced Detection Equipment did not invent or produce anything, but took ready-made ... "golf ball finders" at a price of ... $ 20 (£ 13)
this is gesheft!

Quote: Delta

let them fight "boers"

Well Duc ... and still fighting

M-14 version of a sniper rifle. and saw recent photos where M1 Garand is also holding a sniper rifle.
but the French paratroopers were sent March 28 in Mali:

FR-F1 in service since 1965. that's just a new sight for her adapted.

[Delta]

Quote: smprofi

let's start with the fact that weapons are not the army

And the army orders the same. Which is not separable from the state.

Quote: smprofi

Well Duc ... and still fighting

yeah. And these same guys are also fighting "Raptors", "Virginias" and other high-tech types of weapons designed to be highly effective and hard to destroy. And the same "Boer" is a good thing, but still for the last century. You do not compare the actions of snipers (there is a very individual approach to everything there) and the same tankers, aviation, fleet

[smprofi]

Quote: Delta

And the same guys are also fighting "Raptors"

The F-22 Raptor hasn't fought yet. they didn’t let him into Libya either, they frankly forgot to use this wunderwaffle “What if they’ll be shot down!”
however ... there is no particular desire to argue further

[AlNikolaich]

Quote: smprofi

Well Duc ... and still fighting

Another material was that the amers in Iraq seized a warehouse with PPSh, and they are using it with might and main. Yes, I saw the photo, the Amer Marine with PPSh, and the collimator and tactical handle on the forearm are attached to it ...
Apparently such junk sometimes works cleaner than new ...

[smprofi]

Quote: AlNikolaich

Another material was

well ... we have them, as they say in Odessa:

and returning to the conversation about the three-ruler:

[fartfraer]

delta, this Akm will give your govododel a modern head start and anyway overtake)

[Delta]

Quote: fartfraer

delta, this akm will give your govododel modern head start and anyway overtake

mine - what is it? I do not live in the USA. And for your fantasies and dreams, certainly handicap has long been given))))

[Snoop]

Do not say))) And our army? I served in 2003-2004. during the exercises he dragged a helmet back in which Berlin was entered))) looked at the production stamp for interest .. he spent a long time stamping some July 1945)))))

[smprofi]

Quote: Snoop

dragged a helmet in which in Berlin entered

well, at least real. and then recently there was information that "firmachi" delivered "newfangled helmets". it turned out that they were holding nothing at all, construction helmets.

[Vladimirets]

Quote: svp67

The form, of course, not from "Yudashkin" but from natural fabrics.

So after all, and bast shoes made of natural material, but still better in long boots.

Quote: svp67

And notice how many people are armed, and the "miracle" is not afraid of this. It says the same thing ...

The miracle looks like a big-growing, underdeveloped and spoiled child who does not know that the toys are already over.

[svp67]

Quote: Vladimirets

So after all, and bast shoes made of natural material, but still better in long boots.

But aren't boots made of natural material?

[Vladimirets]

Quote: svp67

But aren't boots made of natural material?

Tautology turned out , but you probably understood what I mean: naturalness does not yet provide quality.

[svp67]

Quote: Vladimirets

Quote: svp67

But aren't boots made of natural material?

Tautology turned out , but you probably understood what I mean: naturalness does not yet provide quality.

Well, then they would compare bast shoes with sneakers ... And their shape, albeit not so "modern" looks, but it has been tested in a combat situation ...

[svp67]

Quote: Vladimirets

The miracle looks like a big-growing, underdeveloped and spoiled child who does not know that the toys are already over.

Time will tell who he is and what ...

[Thunderbolt]

I agree that young Kim is still inexperienced in the big politics of "war and peace", but he is surrounded by grated balls of old generals. They will direct and prompt. As I understand, they have a Politburo there in the manner of ours. By the way, both Koreas took "a couple of timid steps "along the path of unification. But then, not without the help of the United States: on October 4, 2007, at a ceremony held in Pyongyang, the leader of the DPRK, Kim Jong Il, and the President of the Republic of Korea, Roh Moo Hyun, signed an eight-point Declaration on Peace and Shared Prosperity." This document summed up the results of the 2007 inter-Korean summit. It calls for peace between the two Koreas, shared prosperity and an end to military hostility. After President Lee Myung-bak came to power in Seoul, relations between the North and the South began to deteriorate sharply.

[demon ada]

Yes, I think they are doomed, they are all alone against them (without open support).
but they will break their teeth to these American mongrel be healthy.

[nakaz]

When the DPRK decides to occupy South Korea with areas inhabited by civilians, the thought arises whether the USA will abandon its satellite without risking to discover its monstrous animal grin throughout the civilized world.

[Stiletto]

I was pleased with the "powerful" fleet of Kim Jong-un, and especially pinned the mouse on the new North Korean laptop))) That's it, now it's definitely Khan America!

[fzr1000]

This is not a mouse, but quite an ordinary trackball.

[svp67]

Quote: Stiletto

especially pinned the mouse

And this is not a "mouse", this device is called "Trackball". The DPRK wants to go its own way here too ...

[don.kryyuger]

How much cannon fodder! Unleash the war, the Americans will throw missiles at them, without soldiers. Sooner or later, Korea will be alone - southern.

[svp67]

Quote: don.kryyuger

Sooner or later, Korea will be one - south.

And the option that there will be no Korea, or that Korea will be, but is not being considered as part of the autonomous region as part of China?

[AlNikolaich]

Quote: don.kryyuger

How much cannon fodder! Unleash the war, the Americans will throw missiles at them, without soldiers. Sooner or later, Korea will be alone - southern.

Well, this grandmother said for two ... It is striking that the DPRK has a huge number of multiple launch rocket launchers of various calibers. Amer does not care, they are far away. And South Koreans can easily row to the fullest! And tactical missiles in the DPRK in bulk. The same thing flies to the Japanese! Amer certainly rush to save their satellites, but there may already be no one to save!

[Denis_SF]

We even have mob warehouses, I think the weapons will be better.

[Apollo]

The DPRK army has one big advantage, strong morale and patriotism. They will lay down their bones and defend themselves to the last. This is not Libya, Iraq and not even Syria. This is the DPRK and the Americans are well aware of this.

[fartfraer]

Apollo, I agree. Here many are ironic, forgetting that if the "mattress" is given into the hands of the SVD, then he can lose to a warrior trained and sharpened for victory, even if the warrior is armed with a homemade caramultuk since Napoleon.

[Nagaibak]

fartfraer "even if the warrior is armed with a self-made caramult from the times of Napoleon."
I agree with you. Let people be ironic. However, the North Koreans and the military-industrial complex are well developed, or rather, probably one military-industrial complex is also developed.
"The DPRK has built 17 factories for the production of firearms and artillery, 35 factories for the production of ammunition, 5 factories for the production of tanks and armored vehicles, 8 aircraft factories, 5 factories for the production of warships, 5 factories for the production of guided missiles, 5 factories for the production of communications equipment , 8 factories for chemical and biological weapons. In addition, many civilian factories can be converted at minimal cost to produce military products. Over 180 defense factories have been built underground in mountainous areas. "
Although of course you can laugh at North Korea.

[fartfraer]

there is no point in arguing about the development of the North Korean military-industrial complex, as well as about the army — one of the most powerful (in the world, and not only in the region) constituent factors of independence and the ability to independent politics.
the training is very impressive, not only military, but also mobilization. It is a warrior country. Why it has become so not a topic of fasting, but that this warrior is dangerous for the enemy is beyond doubt.
any war with the North Koreans is (among other things) capturing a mass of saboteurs on its territory, this is an enemy who feeds on grass from under his feet and is generally unpretentious in everyday life. these are well-trained soldiers with a strong ideology. I do not understand what the "experts" are ironing about, it is clear that they had nothing to do with real military operations, and whether they served in the army is a big question

[Delta]

Quote: fartfraer

here many are ironic, forgetting that if the "mattress" is given into the hands of the SVD, then he can lose to a warrior trained and sharpened for victory, even if the warrior is armed with a homemade caramult from the times of Napoleon.

yes, so many in Russia thought before Tsushima

[fartfraer]

vyser is not counted)) because it was tsushima that showed that yapi were more prepared) before giving birth, think what you say) because tsushima confirms exactly my point of view, not yours

[Delta]

Quote: fartfraer

vyser is not counted)) because it was tsushima that showed that yapi were more prepared) before giving birth, think what you say) because tsushima confirms exactly my point of view, not yours

you have vysery here, and all this has long been recognized. Do not humiliate yourself once again. It was Tsushima who showed people like you the patriots that technology means a lot, and courage without it is zilch. In your terminology, he’s embossed))) And Tsushima confirmed the point of view of those who thought not only courage (which was enough on both sides) but also about what shells to shoot and how to do it

[self-propelled]

The total service life in the ground units of the Korean People’s Army ranges from 5 to 8 years. From this period, special forces soldiers serve in full force. If we consider the general structure of the special forces in the country, then they include 10 "sniper" brigades, 12 light infantry brigades, 17 separate reconnaissance battalions and one airborne battalion. Such a structure could not affect the size - North Korean special forces are one of the largest special forces units in the world and number more than 90 thousand people ...

[fartfraer]

Well, maybe I have outdated information, but I read that in Korean specialists it’s 10 years of service (with conscripts), and before the sabotage is carried out, they allow him no earlier than three years.

[zadorin1974]

I agree completely - only one addition - with the front team, this whole army will go forward not only for patriotism - they will be offered the option of improving their lives - We will take a better life from the bourgeois for our children - and Ales will come to the southerners - they will run ahead to the distillations without a team - and the fact that the southerners have modern weapons - so for every North Korean fighter with Kalash, NATO will not have enough super missiles - the landscape of Korea is mostly mountainous (difficult), so there is a place to go secretly and hide.

[Atrix]

Quote: Apollon

The DPRK army has one big advantage, strong morale and patriotism. They will lay down their bones and defend themselves to the last. This is not Libya, Iraq and not even Syria. This is the DPRK and the Americans are well aware of this.

Well, how strong morale is in the DPRK is a controversial moment, all that is visible is from the videos shown by the DPRK itself. Zhirinovsky also once said that Iraq was strong in spirit, then they said that Libya was strong in spirit, so far only Syria met expectations.

[smprofi]

Quote: Atrix

Iraq is strong in spirit, then they said that Libya is strong in spirit

and there everything is trivially simple: "donkey with gold" played its role, in the current version - "chumodan with greenery".

[Delta]

Quote: smprofi

and there everything is trivially simple: "donkey with gold" played its role, in the current version - "chumodan with greenery".

So everywhere it was and will be. You might think that the current pseudo-revolution in the territory of the former USSR is not bought. Who said that you can't buy hungry North Koreans with the same chumadan with herbs? tired of fanaticism. Fanaticism can win, but only at the initial stage (c) Professor Preobrazhensky.

[PDM80]

Yes, the Americans will tinker if they have so many women under arms, but how much more they can raise!

[Atrix]

Americans will not have to fight with their soldiers, for this there is South Korea. The United States can provide technical support, populate rockets, provide intelligence data, etc. I doubt that they will want to lead troops, maybe separate special units will work, but they will lead if everything is bad and then under the mandate of the UN and NATO

[Gluxar_]

Quote: Atrix

Americans will not have to fight with their soldiers, for this there is South Korea. The United States can provide technical support, populate rockets, provide intelligence data, etc. I doubt that they will want to lead troops, maybe separate special units will work, but they will lead if everything is bad and then under the mandate of the UN and NATO

Without the United States and its soldiers, the Republic of Kazakhstan will be defeated in a matter of days. Not a complete defeat, but irreplaceable. It will be the collapse of the ideology of capitalism and the DPRK will win.

[Trailer]

The North Korean has another small advantage over the South - nuclear weapons.

[Strezhevchanin]

Quote: Karavan

The North Korean has another small advantage over the South - nuclear weapons.

And so they urgently need a very good air defense system, then even the Americans will have to puff

[Nagaibak]

If skillfully used it is possible to repulse all such weapons. The weapon is at least old, but reliable. Of course you can bomb them, but this is not Iraq and Libya, in North Korea there is a mountainous relief. They have a base underground tunnels dug. Underground airbases. The plants are in the same place. Normally, everything, no one will climb on them, is more expensive for themselves. And the clothes are warm, comfortable hehe ... obviously not from Yudashkin. In winter, they don’t have Sochi, humidity, fresh ... you know. Pants and jackets are insulated, so they seem baggy.

[FunkschNNX]

So always, at the whim of a hog with a funny haircut, a bunch of ordinary people should kill other ordinary people. And all so that this hog and a flock of close jackals would get some nishtyaks for themselves.

[fartfraer]

I agree, you just have to give up and that’s all. at the mercy of the states.
it’s a pity that you live so late, you would advise like Stalin, you would look and save millions of soldiers and civilians. (where irony everyone decides for himself)

[FunkschNNX]

Leave the states alone, they are going to bomb the South Koreans and not the Pentagon. What is the reason for the North Korean peasant to kill the South Korean teacher?

The states gathered to give up :-) heh, you have megalomania, they do not need you nafig :-)

[fartfraer]

in general, it is South Korea that declares a preemptive strike, and the north only speaks of a possible answer)) so that when the teacher begins to threaten the peasant, the peasant has the right to defiantly pick up the forks)

[leon-iv]

For such an instructor in the BSP and TP to shoot a little clowns.

[evgenii67]

In the photo, North Korean rambo unfinished! Each of them would have already drawn ten holes in the head.

[fartfraer]

you would be surprised when you saw my photos from the contract)) however, as my experience shows, the photos and reality often do not correspond, I hope it is clear that it is not so easy to draw a "hole" for a saboteur with at least three years of training, but in the Korean army there are more of them, much more than in Russian or Tanskoy. Do not judge only by the photo.
as an example, photos of soldiers peeling potatoes in the Russian Federation cause a lot of irony, but when these soldiers "bend" hardened militants, then you somehow forget about the potatoes)

[leon-iv]

do not judge only by photo.
Well xs all colleagues who constantly work with weapons are already working at the muscle level correctly. This applies to body motility and TB.

[fartfraer]

Have you seen how they are marching in parades? It's funny)) with a jump)) the third cylinder "troit" in body motility.
but when you look on YouTube (for example) the training of their saboteurs, or hear about the service life, you understand that "motor skills" are not the worst)
I understand that this is definitely not recruits (otherwise all comments will be just ridiculous), and I also understand that in the Russian army such phs can never be done, since we have everything with weapons since childhood.
I hope you will understand where in my comment the irony))

[sanych]

Aha! It feels like the shot is staged. Looks like a Hollywood picture - they attack to their full height and shoot "from the belly"! I can’t believe that they studied this with an 8-year service — the postcard is obvious.

[cth; fyn]

Holywood forever !!!

[Nagaibak]

leon-iv "For such an instructor in BSP and TP, shoot a few CLOWNS."
You shouldn’t be so strict ... with closed eyes, not everyone can shoot like that .. hehe .. shot and forgot called ...

[omsbon]

Quote: leon-iv

For such an instructor in the BSP and TP to shoot a little clowns.

If the North Koreans are watching VO, then you can take your advice.

[dmitry46]

also eyes are buried
the DPRK has an invincible army ..... All enemies are scared just by sight))

[leon-iv]

also eyes are buried
Well, it’s hard for quick-eyed people to look at the world with wide eyes.

[iSpoiler]

PPC form inconspicuous ..)))
And the shooting is not aimed ..... although .... maybe they have a special wireless sight, it’s built into the eye .. or in a cockade.))

[iSpoiler]

Probably it was something like that ..))

[Farik]

Quote: leon-iv

shoot a little CLOWNS.

Rambo pancake homegrown !!!

[fzr1000]

The boat in the photo with Eun, of course, mdaaa. He's still a "dreadnought". It is strange that he came on such a vessel. Or is it to be closer to the common people?

[cth; fyn]

The tree has low radio frequency, so it's a stealth boat

[fartfraer]

much cooler when the money of the state is spent on "representative ts." Yes, I would have transplanted all the officials from Merciers to bugs, let them ride.

[Delta]

Quote: fartfraer

much cooler when the money of the state is spent on "representative ts." Yes, I would have transplanted all the officials from Merciers to bugs, let them ride.

This is a type of proximity to the people?))) Do you know how Eun lives and how the rest of the Northern people live? so his boat is another window dress. Especially against the background of his fat cracking turnips

[Dr. Pilyulkin]

Quote: Delta

Especially against the background of his fat cracking turnips

Come on ...
Maybe he was swollen from hunger.

[Sirius]

And I noticed that the background is generals, and they are all lean, to look with pleasure. Then he drew attention to the pegs. They look normal, better than ties, and more convenient than shoulder straps.

[AlNikolaich]

Quote: Sirius

Then he drew attention to the Lychki

this buttonhole is called ...

[fartfraer]

yes, yes)) this is from the series "putin on" Kalina ". only something I doubt that there is a place to run)) and you can't hear about foreign accounts))
By the way, tell me how he lives, I see you are an expert on North Korean realities.

[Busido]

I kept thinking who Kim Jong-un reminds me of .... Remember "From Dusk Till Dawn" ?! Adopted son, Korean, pastor.Vylytyy.Only matured.With a "cheerful" mood can be easily confused. And according to the plot of the film, the brave, fighting guy had a terrible ending. Ghouls gnawed at him. Kim is like that actor! Especially when he smiles.

[Snoop]

So this is it))) Fed)))

[svp67]

Quote: leon-iv

[Img]

For such an instructor in the BSP and TP to shoot a little clowns.

The usual "ballet" to please the eyes of the Supreme, and what did you expect to show tactical developments?

[leon-iv]

Here's how to hold the machine

[leon-iv]

PS I forgot to add this my personal photos were taken recently

[fartfraer]

cool you keep the machines) but want a joke, you are on the same line, on one line, and the "clumsy" Koreans are distributed more competently, in a rare chain)) so who is the "special"?

[leon-iv]

lal well, certainly not you; this is one of the exercises of the TSP Sturm to increase the density of fire in the base structure.

[fartfraer]

that's all) the difference in tactics, etc.) you won't be able to attack the entrenched company like that, although you hold the machine gun correctly, yes, I'm not special, but I bet that it would be easier for me personally to hit you with a standard weapon exactly when you are so located, and not "scattered" like Koreans.
it’s not a belittling or an insult, it’s just a fact. you are obviously not honing for an army attack in the fields (in this photo).

[Delta]

Quote: fartfraer

you are on the same line, on the same line

On one line - these are picture "heroes" stretched out in a chain. And those standing behind each other are just not for the queue

[fartfraer]

let's start with the basics - when fired, Kalash leads a little up, as we were taught in the army)) now the question is what prevents the enemy from sitting in the trenches to aim at the chest of the first soldier and give a turn? Will the barrel lead slightly up and the second will catch its share of lead, isn’t it? Now we’ll develop the situation, two by two. The comrades go as in the photo, the other comrades in a rare chain like the Koreans.
photo heroes with their concentrated fire will demolish one Korean in any way)) am I right? and now we return to the position of heroes, they are on the same line, the second Korean will put them without straining
clarification, all this is said about actions in the open, during the storming of a building, fire density undoubtedly solves problems (for example, on flights of stairs)
but now you can tell me that I'm wrong and do not fight at all)

[AlNikolaich]

Quote: leon-iv

PS I forgot to add this my personal photos were taken recently

In the photo MVDshniki, an exercise for urban combat! Clarify riot police or explosives?

[leon-iv]

Riot police or explosives?
Airsoft VERY well VERY strongly associated with the Ministry of Internal Affairs in particular with the BSP
Top it's me

[BruderV]

Quote: leon-iv

Airsoft players

And I watch a motorcycle helmet , pokemon style.

[leon-iv]

And I watch a motorcycle helmet, Pokemon style.
Yes, it’s not ZSh-1. At first they dragged the original ones, but after 2-3 hours the neck was sour in it, even with my experience in martial arts. Bought replicas.
+ In addition, I also have active rifle bands in the active headphones there, with an embankment and another DTK-1 from the anti-aircraft gun. It extinguishes the impact perfectly, but the sound pressure will grind by 70%. Simply put, the pogs are overwhelming.
shooting 2/3 of zinc (for 3) colleagues was already hard to perceive. For everything was heard badly.
Now those members of our team who serve ordered themselves 9 sets from the anti-aircraft guns including 5 DTK-4 let's see what comes. And how he shoots a gross cartridge

[BruderV]

In the original school, I trained without a visor, it’s not very hard (it’s hard to drag a custom PCM))), but you can’t hear your figs without a loringophone, then I went to another team there in panama hats, in winter there was no problem. If also with a visor, then many stumble out of the blue, because it fogs up and distorts the perception of distance due to bulletproof glass.

[leon-iv]

In the original school of art without a visor, I trained, it seems not very hard
The question is loads. Right now, we have current in them if buildings in the forest have nothing to do with caps
Right now, the whole SOBR has bought bourgeois helmets for mountains and Altyn or ZSh-1M
for buildings.

[Krasnoyarsk]

Combat museum

[Nasty]

And so quick-eyed, and even squint!

[svp67]

Quote: Krasnoyarets

Combat museum

That's just it. that museum workers have recently become very active ...

[ChornuiVoron]

We need to think about how to feed the people. And he plays in the soldiers.

[fartfraer]

that’s what you think about it day and night) how many hours in Moscow do you watch yourself? Can’t you feed yourself? I don’t feel sorry, I’m even for the help of the brotherly people, but when you start to teach and want to say, learn yourself!
rejoice that Ukraine does not border on Korea and does not have problems with them, for Ukraine could not solve these problems without help from outside.
well, and lastly, aspiring to NATO, I want to say that Ukraine, in fact, does not now have independence, Russia is not 100% independent, and Korea is completely independent, even managing to create and maintain an army and various technologies even in the blockade. resources, which are many in the Russian Federation or in Ukraine.

[ChornuiVoron]

At our place, people do not receive 400 grams of rice per day on cards. And there are no trucks working on a tree. Is independence only for a funny fatty leader, or can Koreans freely leave the country? Do not work on a plantation at gunpoint? That's independence.

Regarding Ukraine, did you see a flag and like a bull on a comment? Ukraine is an independent country and can decide what to do and where to join.

[Delta]

Quote: ChornuiVoron

At our place, people do not receive 400 grams of rice per day on cards. And there are no trucks working on a tree. Is independence only for a funny fatty leader, or can Koreans freely leave the country? Do not work on a plantation at gunpoint? That's independence.

Regarding Ukraine, did you see a flag and like a bull on a comment? Ukraine is an independent country and can decide what to do and where to join.

applause

[M. Peter]

Quote: ChornuiVoron

At our place, people do not receive 400 grams of rice per day on cards. And there are no trucks working on a tree. Is independence only for a funny fatty leader, or can Koreans freely leave the country? Do not work on a plantation at gunpoint? That's independence.

But I’m always wondering when you write about Sev.Korea like that, how do you feel confident that they eat 400 gr. rice per day? Have you ever been to North Korea at all? A very common misconception. They don’t eat there, but there’s no hunger at all.

[Hon]

Quote: M.Pyotr

But I’m always wondering when you write about Sev.Korea like that, how do you feel confident that they eat 400 gr. rice per day? Have you ever been to North Korea at all? A very common misconception. They don’t eat there, but there’s no hunger at all.

I rode somehow with the Koreans in the bus, so they were even dressed in their uniforms, probably in the absence of another.

[M. Peter]

Quote: Hon

I drove like that with the Koreans in the bus

And you thought how they got here, because the country is in isolation, the evil dictator doesn’t let anyone in, but doesn’t let anyone out? Or were you in the very north of Korea?

Quote: Hon

so they were even dressed in their uniforms, probably in the absence of another.

Apparently, schoolchildren from the times of the USSR, but also for the lack of any other clothes, everyone was dressed in uniform.

The site says a lot about how to think with your own head, do not look back to the "west" and so on, but all these nonsense about hunger, cold and concentration camps in the DPRK are just imposed on us by this very "west". By the way, you can visit the DPRK as a tourist, it is not such a closed country as many think.
There, in the DPRK, if you eat you can’t get what Thailand offers, satisfaction of low lust, when prostitutes are the main goods, transvestites and the like, no. The feeling will be as if you returned to the USSR, cleanly and calmly.

[Hon]

Quote: M.Pyotr

And you thought how they got here, because the country is in isolation, the evil dictator doesn’t let anyone in, but doesn’t let anyone out? Or were you in the very north of Korea?

Up which creeping across borders. It was about a year ago in Moscow, route 431М, I went to Zelik. Three Koreans came in with bags, what the Koreans understood in form.

Quote: M.Pyotr

Apparently, schoolchildren from the times of the USSR, but also for the lack of any other clothes, everyone was dressed in uniform.

Pupils under 40 did not wear uniforms, and these guys were clearly older.

Quote: M.Pyotr

By the way, you can go to the DPRK as a tourist, it’s not such a closed country as many people think.

Yes, I know this year tourists even stopped taking mobile phones and were allowed to use the Internet.

Quote: M.Pyotr

The feeling will be as if you returned to the USSR, cleanly and calmly.

Have you been there? Did you manage to communicate with ordinary citizens of the DPRK?

[fartfraer]

yes, Ukrainians do not get rice on ration cards) they just sell their labor force abroad)) what kind of independence are you talking about? your economy is slag, it’s even easier to give you a slag on the economy than the Russian Federation, you will run away forgetting patriotism if you have “rice on ration” ". full expression of the nation, or is it still reversible? where are the descendants of the Koaaks, who made the Poles and Swedes cancer? only Mazeppians remained) now you can read about Ukraine only in" Taras Bulba ", because his descendants steal gas, work outside the country and have lost their former power of spirit

[fartfraer]

it’s strange that you are complexing about your flag) Well, I won’t argue about Ukraine’s independence, it was she who completely blackmailed Russia with gas transit and left Europe without gas at the time. It’s exactly she who breaks into NATO and helped Georgians in the war with Russia

[Delta]

Quote: fartfraer

and Korea is completely independent

And FOOD does not refuse help. Moreover - it is being traded already.

[Sirius]

"The court makes the king." Kim Jong-un is a slave to his environment, a slave to his destiny. Even if he wants to change something, will he be able to do a lot, a puppet in the hands of the generals?

[dmitry46]

Do they have any armor plates at all? all only with machine guns, and in one helmeted photo .... Fearless army)

[Prometey]

I don’t understand what this Korean clown wants? Now is not the year 1950, and no one will harness for North Korean ambitions. They will get Uncle Sam, and then they just roll out. The only pity is people who are kept like cattle (a woman should watch the house, not carry shells). The DPRK, as a political project, has worked out its own. It is better for us to have a stable economic partner on the border than idiots, and even with a dirty nuclear bomb.

[Vovka levka]

Childhood in the pope plays. And people, that people, in one place have them.
If anything, the army will scatter. Zealots of course have their own will shoot. Such a dictatorial, inhuman state can exist only in a complete information vacuum. But this vacuum is no longer there. Just so that troubles are not done, otherwise everyone will get it, nuclear weapons are not a joke.

[fartfraer]

"Childhood plays in the priest." - for sure)) some still believe in democracy and independence)
"If anything, the army scatters" - you are a fine connoisseur of the spiritual strings of Koreans. If there was a possibility of a real clash between the Ukrainian army and the North Koreans, I would bet on the latter.
"Such a dictatorial, inhuman state can exist only in a complete information vacuum" - here I agree. Until the poison of a liberal lie does not spread personal opinion, a person believes his eyes, and only then he changes free medicine and education for a hundred varieties of sausages and jeans. Valiant Ukraine is alive an example of an open society, it is so open that the mass of Ukrainians work in Russia, the mass in Europe, and very few raise the economy of the brotherly state. This is a shame for Ukraine, but you can put up with it, the main thing is democracy rules.
"nuclear weapons are not a joke." - and here I agree, this is the only deterrent to "peace-loving democratic" Uncle Sam

[Vovka levka]

In Ukraine, not democracy rules, but boys. There is nothing free in the world, just payment methods are different.

[Kalita]

There will be great joy in Uncle Sam’s country when Russia and Ukraine finally quarrel. So let's not give them such joy, but learn to respect each other.

[Vovka levka]

I agree, I just won’t allow myself that, I have many friends in Russia. The fact that some people allow themselves such statements is probably from a lack of education, and the school of life.
Honestly, there is no desire to comment.

[fartfraer]

"They'll get Uncle Sam, and then they'll just roll them out." - these are the main words of your comment - the main thing is not to get Uncle Sam) such as you were in power in the 90s, they agreed to everything, if only the "economy" of the wallet did not suffer and Uncle Sam wasn't angry.
you took for yourself a loud nickname-Prometheus, who brought fire against the will of the gods, received a terrible punishment for this, although in fact you are ready to sell your neighbor ("it is better for us to have a stable economic partner on the border") just so as not to anger Uncle Sam. here is more suitable nickname "Judas" ... not an insult, God forbid. just an analogy.

[Delta]

Quote: fartfraer

"They'll get Uncle Sam, and then they'll just roll them out." - these are the main words of your comment - the main thing is not to get Uncle Sam) such as you were in power in the 90s, they agreed to everything, if only the "economy" of the wallet did not suffer and Uncle Sam wasn't angry.
you took for yourself a loud nickname-Prometheus, who brought fire against the will of the gods, received a terrible punishment for this, although in fact you are ready to sell your neighbor ("it is better for us to have a stable economic partner on the border") just so as not to anger Uncle Sam. here is more suitable nickname "Judas" ... not an insult, God forbid. just an analogy.

And here you basically go to personalities and nicknames, from a lack of argumentation. By the way, if about nicknames - your "Cool")))))

[fartfraer]

By the way, yes)) why are we on the personality)) began to insult a fat Korean))
leave your policy of double standards, you are the same person as you, only he runs the state)

[Delta]

Quote: fartfraer

began to insult the fat Korean)

can a link about the insult to the "fat Korean"?

[Prometey]

fartfraer
I will tell you so. The transition to personality and discussion of nicknames indicates your failure. Without knowing the person, you are ready to attribute to him qualities that he never had. Well, okay, the Internet will endure everything.
In the 90s, like most people, I tried to survive, and even now, essentially nothing has changed. If you think that something has changed since then, you are naive. Some thieves and jackals succeeded others in power. But I didn’t fall into power - I didn’t learn to lie and steal for my conscious life.
And the point is not to please Uncle Sam. DPRK is a beggarly country with a miserable ruling regime. Instead of looking for ways to integrate with the South, these idiots rattle with rusty metal and shake their little fists. I am personally worried that our country is at hand with such inadequacy that threatens its neighbors with an atomic bomb. And where is the guarantee that their missile will go astray, will fly not to the Pacific Ocean, but to Vladivostok. In this case, too, will you praise and support Eun?

[Vovka levka]

I totally agree.

[fartfraer]

did not set out to offend you.
however, it is not possible and necessary to negotiate with everyone. both in politics and in life. chavez did not negotiate with them, Lukashenko does not matter what Europe says about him, but he "does not negotiate", a scoundrel) history has taught that treaties are valid only as long as they are beneficial to the strong side.
for example, give the historical facts - the Munich agreement, the Molotov-Ribentrop pact, the SNV, on conventional weapons in Europe, etc., all these agreements turned out to be bullshit, so why is he ""? maybe he just knows the price of the agreements?

[Vrungel78]

Well, the UK has enough spirit (albeit bad), weapons, albeit old, but, I suppose, by analogy with the Soviet, reliable operation, envy-learning, but the nano-boat will not float away

[Alyoha]

Fat Eun verbiage. There will be no war, because of this fat animal, America will repeatedly strengthen the missile defense system in Alaska, which is harmful to us. How is Eun so obese in a country where hunger is from the 90s.

[fartfraer]

Lech, you look at the soldier)) everything from starvation is already transparent)) not otherwise they will eat them))

[fartfraer]

you can delete my komenty as much as you like)) you just have nothing to argue.
your irony breaks down on the facts, your "pride" is ridiculous, given your condemnation of an independent state in spite of the states. continue to be slaves, be afraid of people and sneer at the obviously weak, but independent, remaining essentially strong, but terribly stupid slaves. health to all, it is for you will be needed when working on s

[dmitry46]

did you smoke

[trenkkvaz]

Quote: Apollon

The DPRK army has one big advantage, strong morale and patriotism. They will lay down their bones and defend themselves to the last. This is not Libya, Iraq and not even Syria. This is the DPRK and the Americans are well aware of this.

Well, high morale is only in the pictures and while they are under the rule of their god. In Iraq, the army also boasted while it was near Hussein.
At the very first shecher, this whole North Korean crowd will scatter.
You have to be completely an idiot to fight for IT. They know how their southern brothers live and they are confident in their hearts that they hope and wait for their regime to fall.

[Nickanor]

In many pictures, the young leader has an openly blissful expression on his face, a constantly drooping jaw.
And they really feel sorry for their fighters, and the rest of the people - zombie people, exhausted faces, poverty, idolatry, an absurd show against the background of outdated weapons - what is all this for? You look at the photos and you realize that you are in the middle of the last century. China also lives "with ideas", nevertheless, the difference is felt ...

[smprofi]

and it's all?
can add...

[svp67]

What a variety of small arms they have and how they should "struggle" with providing ammunition, only the submachine guns and machine guns shown in the photo require three different types of cartridges ...

[smprofi]

Quote: svp67

they have to "struggle" with providing ammunition

hmm ... and in the Soviet / Russian rifle platoon AKM / RPK - 7,62x39 (later, under AK-74 - 5,45 × 39), PK / SVD - 7.62x54R. tormented too or are tormented now?

[dmitry46]

Looking at the 1st and 3rd photo, I realized where all the string bags disappeared)))
From North Koreans, they stole from us for the needs of their army)))

[dmitry46]

Looking at the first 3 photos, I realized where all the string bags disappeared)))
From North Koreans, they stole from us for the needs of their army)))

[Nagaibak]

dmitry46 "North Koreans stole from us for the needs of their army)))"
Probably rather the militia.

[fzr1000]

Tar is cool.

[smprofi]

Quote: fzr1000

Tar is cool.

there are two of them: DP and RPD

[fzr1000]

I'm talking about DP - 27.

[Nickanor]

Especially in the second decade of the XXI century, when spacecraft plowed ... and fiction becomes a reality)

[Nickanor]

Three things were killed:
- age of fighters, as in Petrovsky Russia periodically come across
- Women participate in all this obscurantism along with men. Maybe they share the barracks together? ..
- the complete absence of any equipment on the fighters - belt with ear flaps-machine

[Hon]

Quote: Nickanor

Three things were killed:
- age of fighters, as in Petrovsky Russia periodically come across
- Women participate in all this obscurantism along with men. Maybe they share the barracks together? ..
- the complete absence of any equipment on the fighters - belt with ear flaps-machine

This is the Workers 'and Peasants' Red Guard (RKKG, from 1,4 to 3,8 million people), that is, a kind of US national guard. Hence the age, women and scarce ammunition

[smprofi]

continuation, all at once in 1 comment does not fit

[smprofi]

Well, the video that in 3 days South Korea will be captured and 150 gringos will be captured

[Snoop]

In the second photo he has such a facial expression on the machine - what for G ...?))

[smprofi]

Quote: Snoop

he has such an expression

that's better?

[Odysseus]

Great photos, thanks. J-7II and Mig-29 in full bandage were especially pleased.
By the way, the J-7 looks surprisingly fresh.

[svp67]

And "accordions" for the ceremonial entry into Seoul ...

[ramzes1776]

Quote: svp67

And "accordions" for the ceremonial entry into Seoul ...

These are not accordions, but military and technical equipment, like a piano with an antenna and a mouse

[Jrvin]

But I’m looking at them and it seems to me that they have a common idea and purpose, and you know it gives a lot ... remember how our grandfathers fought with the Nazis ... the same because there were only sticks from weapons ... and then nothing through self-sacrifice they snatched victory.

[Delta]

Quote: Jrvin

the same after all from a weapon there were only sticks.

this is where were some sticks ???

[Atrix]

Quote: Jrvin

But I’m looking at them and it seems to me that they have a common idea and purpose, and you know it gives a lot ... remember how our grandfathers fought with the Nazis ... the same because there were only sticks from weapons ... and then nothing through self-sacrifice they snatched victory.

There was no fall why are you fooling people? The USSR may or may not have lagged behind Fascist Germany, but not as much as North Korea is lagging behind South; there, the gap in armaments is 50-60 years. So this is not a correct comparison.

[Hon]

Quote: Jrvin

But I’m looking at them and it seems to me that they have a common idea and purpose, and you know it gives a lot ... remember how our grandfathers fought with the Nazis ... the same because there were only sticks from weapons ... and then nothing through self-sacrifice they snatched victory.

It was in Mikhalkov’s films that our grandfathers fought with sticks while the far-armed commanders ate vodka. However, in reality there was no technical superiority of Germany over the union. In some types of weapons they lagged behind in some, they had superiority. By the end of the war, excelled in almost everything. And they fought not only selflessly but also skillfully.

[Kalita]

Do not study the history of Hollywood films, read memoirs (now there are German in translation). Learn a lot, honestly, but about
sticks there not a word!

[Mhpv]

Quote: Jrvin

But I’m looking at them and it seems to me that they have a common idea and purpose, and you know it gives a lot ... remember how our grandfathers fought with the Nazis ... the same because there were only sticks from weapons ... and then nothing through self-sacrifice they snatched victory.

I agree with you. Amerikosy will not come to them openly, because for them it will be another Vietnam and Afghanistan. You look at how they are fanatically tuned, they are convinced that all their troubles are from the USA, the flywheel of propaganda is untwisted as it should. Well, pulling it into it Amers take over South Korea one more heavy burden, after all, the two-edged sword is obliged to help.

[alex0000]

The method of connecting a military Uber computer to the network, by plugging the wires into a 50-meter extension cord, without a plug, caused genuine admiration. And away from the clear eyes of the Führer.

[Arrowslinger]

Quote: leon-iv

For such an instructor in the BSP and TP to shoot a little clowns.

Yes, and somehow camouflage is not suitable for coloring, they stand out very much on the ground.

[dmitry46]

it’s special, so as not to shoot in your own way! )))

[svp67]

But these guys on the background of rocks you can already not notice

[smprofi]

once again it's a good idea to remind you that gringos are also good, not "white and fluffy"



B-52 Stratofortress in "training flight" over South Korea. "train" regularly, from March 8th.

near Pyeongtaek, Osan US Air Base

[Delta]

Quote: smprofi

once again it's a good idea to remind you that gringos are also good, not "white and fluffy"

Observe your interests

[fzr1000]

Of course I understand that I am pouring gasoline into the fire, but ... if there were clashes and the DPRK was lucky enough to fill up one of the Raptors, like F 117 in Yugoslavia ... Both China and Russia in exchange for the wreckage of 10 years would feed North Korean comrades for free.

[ramzes1776]

Quote: fzr1000

if there were clashes and the DPRK was lucky to overwhelm one of the Raptors, like F 117 in Yugoslavia ... Both China and Russia in exchange for the wreckage of 10 years would feed North Korean comrades for free.

Well there Raptor there is such a brilliant thing that we do not know and can not do?

[Odysseus]

Great pics again
Both the F-16 and the Raptors look pretty good. But the Mig-21 / J-7 will kick their ass

[nagi]

The idea is that the soldiers of the North Korean army lack combat experience. Kim Jong-un should send his brigades to Syria to train soldiers in urban fighting on the side of Assad. North Korea and so in disgrace they have nothing to lose. And the Russian Federation, under the guise of fighting hunger in North Korea, delivered products to the DPRK to pay for the actions of DPRK soldiers on the territory of the SA.

[I think so]

Did the Russians already grab their own food? As far as YOUR state statistics knows, you buy the crap yourself abroad ... up to 40% ... So that you yourself have not gone far from the DPRK in the sense of YOUR food ...

[Hon]

Quote: I think so

Did the Russians already grab their own food? As far as YOUR state statistics knows, you buy the crap yourself abroad ... up to 40% ... So that you yourself have not gone far from the DPRK in the sense of YOUR food ...

We not only buy and import, for example, Russia is the third largest grain producer in the world after the United States and the European Union. At the same time, agricultural imports are declining every year.

[I think so]

Dear, you generally know the meanings of the words "IMPORT", "EXPORT", so you insert your five cents and you don't even know the meaning of the words. They would search the Internet.
And according to your remark, I’ll say: You EXPORT grain because you can’t use this grain for business and it rots. It turns out your EXPORT to you and to the detriment. The grain is CHEAP, and MEAT, fed with THIS grain, is bought EXPENSIVELY. So, to be proud of such an export - to be simply not in the know ...

[Hon]

Quote: I think so

Dear, you generally know the meanings of the words "IMPORT", "EXPORT", so you insert your five cents and you don't even know the meaning of the words.

Where are we poor and wretched to high knowledge of what export and import are?

Quote: I think so

And according to your remark, I’ll say: You EXPORT grain because you can’t use this grain for business and it rots. It turns out your EXPORT to you and to the detriment. The grain is CHEAP, and MEAT, fed with THIS grain, is bought EXPENSIVELY. So, to be proud of such an export - to be simply not in the know

There are no problems with the grain shortage on the domestic market of the Russian Federation, we export only 20% of the produced grain, while still remaining third in the world. By the way, only marbled beef is fed with grain, in all other cases they use special compound feeds. The main importers of grain from Russia are Saudi Arabia, Iran, Italy, Spain, Israel, Tunisia, Morocco, Greece and Egypt, we do not import meat products from these countries. So what kind of meat do we buy fed our grain ?!
The United States, obviously, also cannot use the grain produced at home because it is the world's largest exporter. And stupid Canadians simply don’t know where to use the dropped wheat.
Perhaps you just read the article of some kind of homegrown pseudo-economist and imagined yourself very smart.

[Odysseus]

Quote: I think so

Did the Russians already grab their own food? As far as YOUR state statistics knows, you buy the crap yourself abroad ... up to 40% ... So that you yourself have not gone far from the DPRK in the sense of YOUR food

Yes, when oil prices fall in Russia, mass hunger will begin
In that year alone, $ 40 billion worth of food was purchased.

[ramzes1776]

Quote: Odyssey

Yes, when oil prices fall in Russia, mass hunger will begin

Russians have not yet become accustomed to growing vegetables in their gardens. So, we will not die of hunger, but we have plenty of bread.

[M. Peter]

Quote: I think so

Did the Russians already grab their own food? As far as YOUR state statistics knows, you buy the crap yourself abroad ... up to 40% ... So that you yourself have not gone far from the DPRK in the sense of YOUR food ...

There is the concept of food security. Russia provides for itself. With this, everything is fine with us, if something is imported there, it has nothing to do with food safety, because bananas do not grow here ...

[Odysseus]

Quote: M.Pyotr

There is the concept of food security. Russia provides for itself. With this, everything is fine with us, if something is imported there

Cattle stock
in 1990-57 million. goals
in 2012-20 million goals.
No comment

[M. Peter]

Quote: Odyssey

The number of cattle in 1990 is 57 million. head 2012-20 million heads No comment

And what does it mean that behind "No comment", like I was all exposed, we have a complete failure in terms of food security, or what?

[crocodile25]

And no one has considered such an option if the DPRK begins to lose, on their territory can they crash nuclear charges?

[I think so]

Why would they "on their own" if there is so much enemy around ...
Tokyo, Okinawa, Guam, Hawaii.
According to some reports, they can reach the US coast. This is where gifts will fly. Maybe some will fly by ...

[Hon]

Quote: I think so

According to some reports, they can reach the US coast. This is where gifts will fly. Maybe some will fly by ...

Given the quality of missiles, they can also boast in the Russian Federation.

[I think so]

Do not worry about their normal rockets, especially medium-range ones. Strategic - but still little tested, and tactical and medium range are quite at the level ...

[Hon]

Quote: krokodil25

And no one has considered such an option if the DPRK begins to lose, on their territory can they crash nuclear charges?

Yes, from all these you can expect

[crocodile25]

Quote: Hon

Yes, from all these you can expect

Here I am about the same thing because fanatics are capable of anything !!!

[JackTheRipper]

On the faces of Koreans, fanaticism is noticeable, something that we lost in 1990, and also that in many ways can be a big advantage in a hypothetical military conflict.
There is no former fanaticism in us

and the Chinese and Koreans have it ...

[smprofi]

Quote: JackTheRipper

Not in us

but it was ...

[AlNikolaich]

Patrio about Muert!
Viva la revolution!
Thank you, pleased with the video!

[Tan4ik]

Am I the only one who noticed a machine gun similar to "Bran"?

[smprofi]

it is not Bren, i.e. Czech ZGB-33, and mine, Type 73 under Russian / Soviet cartridge 7.62x54R

[PiP]

TYPE-73 - aka under the general name "BREN" (for the appearance).
smprofi correctly noticed initially this is a Czech. Submission of patricians can be from the main store or tape

[smprofi]

Quote: PiP

under the general name "BREN" (for the appearance).

except for the appearance ...
Here's what they say about Type 73:

adopted by the Armed Forces of the DPRK in 1973 and is used in the DPRK up to the present. Outside the DPRK, this sample is known very little. The concept of a dual-feed machine gun (magazine / tape) was probably borrowed from the Czechoslovak machine gun Vz.52, the general layout and arrangement of the main components was from the Soviet Kalashnikov PC machine gun.

The Type 73 light machine gun uses gas exhaust automation, locking the barrel by turning the shutter. Fire is conducted from the open shutter, only in automatic mode. Air-cooled barrel, fast. The power supply is double - cartridges of original design with a capacity of 30 rounds inserted into the weapon from above can be used, or an unbroken metal tape with a closed link from a Kalashnikov machine gun PC. The machine gun is equipped with a wooden butt, a pistol grip and a folding metal bipod. Sights are shifted to the left of the axis of the weapon. A distinctive feature of the Type 73 light machine gun is the presence of interchangeable muzzle attachments that are screwed over the barrel in front of the gas block. The machine gun is equipped with two types of nozzles - one with a muzzle brake compensator in the front and the second with a tubular external guide for launching rifle grenades. One of the muzzle attachments is usually placed directly on the barrel, the second (currently unused) is mounted under the gas pipe of the machine gun.

but Czech / Bren:

The Bren light machine gun is an automatic air-cooled quick-change barrel weapon. Automation gas vent machine gun with a long stroke gas piston located under the barrel. The gas vent mechanism is equipped with a manual four-position regulator. The barrel is locked tilting the back of the shutter up. The ammunition is supplied from a 30-round ammunition box magazine attached to the top (for the Bren Mk.1 variant, 100-cartridge disk magazines were also produced, which were abandoned during the war because of their high cost), the spent cartridges are thrown down. The machine gun allowed the conduct of single and automatic fire, the fire mode translator is located on the left above the pistol grip. The design feature of the machine gun was that the receiver with the barrel and all the mechanisms had the ability to roll back along the long guides of the trigger mechanism relative to the stock, which reduced recoil and increased the stability of the weapon when firing.

"slightly" different automatics - different machine guns. although the appearance is really confusing

[PiP]

smprofi I agree completely. Somewhere I came across infa that it (73) is used as a symbol of encouragement (like a "rolling Red Banner"), but I cannot vouch for it

[sprut]

In general, VO is a cool site. Fine!

[vjhbc]

I’m looking at Un and it’s like some kind of foreign object in these photos, as if photoshop had the same feeling as a flying saucer in my yard

[tuts]

Quote: BruderV

Quote: tots

The question is whether South Korea is ready for a protracted war

The question is whether the DPRK is ready at all. In a couple of months, cannibalism will begin. If in peacetime, rice on coupons.

DPRK is North Korea

[BruderV]

Quote: tots

DPRK is North Korea

What is the truth?

[tuts]

yeah in the DPRK live zombies guzzling each other, etc. ...

Look further the western zombie ...

[BruderV]

Quote: tots

Look further the western zombie ...

Do you get all the news first hand? Not one of these?

[tuts]

I receive the news from translations of the foreign press which is designed to brainwash the bourgeoisie and comparing it with reality. Well, I do not observe massive refugee camps in China, Russia and South Korea, only dissidents

[BruderV]

Well, of course, it’s not calm in the world, it’s better at home.

or as
http://www.rulez-t.info/foto_pics/11289-anti-amerikanskaya-propaganda-iz-severno
j-korei.html

[tuts]

North Korea is ready to launch a nuclear strike against the United States ("BBCRussian.com", Great Britain) http://inosmi.ru/world/20130404/207689477.html

Why the North Korean regime inspires fear ("CNN", USA) http://inosmi.ru/world/20130330/207540724.html

it's probably they have nothing to eat so they fucking up by state

PS do not forget to put a minus

[BruderV]

Quote: tots

do not forget to put a minus

Well, there’s nothing more to do. Am I a shkolota chtoli? Not me minus.

[tuts]

per shkolota +

[nok01]

Poor country, poor people, what else can you say ....

[Hius-124]

Yeah ......... photo of how I visited the theater of the absurd, with naive midgets cast. Sorry for them, if that. These women with silly faces in 2 photos, the feeling - that this is not real, some kind of props. Beggars, holy believers, ready to die ... But this is our work, but we abandoned them, and now we betrayed !!!! It’s even a shame. What are the chances there - NO! These children will simply die for the idea and on orders and EVERYTHING. Sad.

[satellite]

They would be daredevil to a peaceful course, they are fanatics.

[Gray-haired777]

Quote: Rubik

If DPRK does not help China and Russia, then there is no chance. In the 50s they could not win

In the 50th in June, for the first 3 days of fighting, the North Koreans occupied Seoul, and in 20 days of the war 90% of the territory of South Korea without the help of the USSR and China.

Do not intervene the United States, there would be no country South Korea ...
The Americans themselves fought and supplied arms to South Korea.
And the whole of Western Europe helped the Americans, supposedly under the auspices of the UN.
In the first months of intervention in the US war, they suffered heavy casualties in manpower and equipment.
The Soviet Union began to help in October 1950 from the air.

And the fact that the DPRK is a backward country is to blame for the United States ...
Various kinds of economic sanctions, etc., do nothing good.

The collapse of the USSR is also the work of the United States, the Cold War, the arms race, artificially lowering oil prices, etc.

Moreover, the Americans themselves live duty. The US national debt is 17 trillion, and the total debt is over 100 trillion.

[Old warrant officer]

There will be no war on the Korean Peninsula, since the Americans do not need war, but rather the anticipation of war. This gives them a free hand in strengthening their troop groups in the Far East. And it helps keep China on its toes.

[Gluxar_]

Quote: Old Warrant Officer

There will be no war on the Korean Peninsula, since the Americans do not need war, but rather the anticipation of war. This gives them a free hand in strengthening their troop groups in the Far East. And it helps keep China on its toes.

In addition to American interests, there are other policies of power. On the Korean Peninsula, such a policy is the DPRK, next door is China. And these two countries put a big X on the Americans and their interests.

[nagi]

Quote: Odyssey

Cattle stock
in 1990-57 million. goals
in 2012-20 million goals.

Actually, in the 9s there was no money, there was nothing to feed the cattle and they were slaughtered in herds. The population itself didn’t have much to eat, so there’s no need for such examples.

[brush]

The DPRK has been preparing one missile for a week, what kind of nuclear strike is there? Some people here live in the sixties, damn it. Back in 1991, how many missiles did Saddam Hussein launch at Tel Aviv? And what is the result?
The States will roll out this DPRK in a week. They will first destroy air defense centers, then airfields and artillery regiments. Well, then they will start bombing cities. And who the hell makes a sound? And China won't give a damn. It itself depends on supplies to the USA and Europe.
I’m generally silent about the ground forces of the DPRK. It will be like on Damansky Island in 1969. Crowds of soldiers will advance until they are covered by artillery, and everything ends in comedy.

[Shatea]

looks spectacular