Again T-50 in Zhukovsky

In the Flight Research Institute named after M.Gromov in Zhukovsky near Moscow, the testing of flight prototypes of the fifth-generation Russian fighter of the PAC FA - T-50 aircraft continues. On the web site russianplanes.net, fresh photos of three of the four flight test boards built so far appeared in March 2013 in March - images of T-50-1 aircraft (the tail number "051"), T-50-3 (" 053 ") and T-50-4 (" 054 ").

Airplane T-50-4 (tail number "054"). Zhukovsky, March 2013 of the year

Airplane T-50-4 (tail number "054"). Zhukovsky, 27.03.2013

Airplane T-50-3 (tail number "053"). Zhukovsky, March 2013 of the year

Airplane T-50-1 (tail number "051"). Zhukovsky, March 2013 of the year

Airplane T-50-1 (tail number "051"). Zhukovsky, March 2013 of the year

Comments

[valokordin]

Not an airplane, but a dream. How beautiful he is, which means he will fly.

[zambo]

Yes, breathtaking! God forbid that the tests be completed successfully, on time and it was released ... eleven squadrons of such handsome men.

[queen]

let us give heaven to him .... not for us to judge

[afire]

Well and handsome! Let's fly a bird, start in formation soon!

[Hedgehog]

He would have to draw a shark and he would be a sight for sore eyes)

[queen]

the hedgehog itself)))))

[Nick]

Video Suite!

[Corsair]

Quote: Nick

Video Suite!

Patting a pilot’s hand on the nose of a standing airplane says: -Do not drift a bird, you will be the best in the world, but for nowlearn !

[almost demobil]

Quote: Nick

Video Suite!

The video is yeah, but the soundtrack is completely off topic. And here the rebellion from hell is incomprehensible. In such cases, I would like to hear Russian speech, and not that. The rest is positive.

[queen]

Quote: almost demobilized

but the soundtrack is not a topic at all

but as without the great and terrible

[svp67]

Quote: Nick

Video Suite!

I join ... still, our musical accompaniment was. And the "bird" - fly, for the joy of us and the evil of the enemies ...

[alexdol]

region EN
Thank you, I watched your video, everything is fine and the plane is excellent, God forbid, that it will fly EXCELLENT! But I had one question. And who made this video? It seems that OURs should have done? But then why does foreign music sound ??? I would have understood if the amers had done it, because they are unlikely to use our music in their videos. Really for this plot the creators could not find anything from our music, I do not like it ...

[queen]

Quote: alexdol

But then why does foreign music sound ???

Ozzy has no complexes))))))))))))))))))))))

[Bashkaus]

Damn, how I trudge from its appearance, I especially like that it is almost like a monoplane, these wide wings merging with the body, ahhh ... SUPER! Rapter on the mind with him "rapper" big and a brain with a fist

[viktorR]

Oh well, handsome! Straight mood in the morning rose! All the same, he flies somehow easily, naturally, as in his element. The comparison may not be correct, but the Raptor in the air, like a penguin on land, seems to be moving, it seems not bad, but somehow awkward. While the T-50 is like a dolphin in water, it moves quickly and easily, effortlessly.

[Vadivak]

Quote: valokordin

How beautiful he is

More spectacular than the Raptor

[Nevsky]

And outwardly I like the Su-35 more)))

[Letun]

Yes, handsome, I even had the idea to change my profile picture

[queen]

Quote: valokordin

Not an airplane, but a dream. How beautiful he is, which means he will fly.

[Zubr]

And not just fly, but it was in the fifth point of our potential "FRIENDS" ..

[I think so]

Can I have a spoon in your barrel?

I don’t understand ... where will they attach bombs and missiles to it?
I don’t understand ... he has reduced radar visibility al no?
I don’t understand ... does he have an engine ... new?
My question is ... what’s new and special about him?
Here I have a question ... were all its parameters "classified" because of the fact that it is embarrassing to show or so as not to scare (laugh) the enemy?
Well, it’s kind of flies ... but this is not the most important thing for the aircraft of his destination ...

[Wedmak]

I don’t understand ... where will they attach bombs and missiles to it?

Two internal compartments between the air intakes. Plus two small ones near the root of the wing, their fairings can be seen as two narrow "ridges" in the lower part of the wing. It is possible to put beam holders.

I don’t understand ... he has reduced radar visibility al no?

Yes, reduced, but not at the expense of maneuverability.

I don’t understand ... does he have an engine ... new?

Not yet.

My question is ... what’s new and special about him?

That’s a bald, bald secret!

Here I have a question ... were all its parameters "classified" because of the fact that it is embarrassing to show or so as not to scare (laugh) the enemy?

The parameters of the F-22 of the likely enemy are also classified. Are they laughing or afraid?

Well, it’s kind of flies ... but this is not the most important thing for the aircraft of his destination ...

Not just flying, tests are underway. The complex is complex, so you have to hurry slowly.

[I think so]

So there are only 4 missiles or bombs in the "hidden" places ... and not enough?
Radar signature ... well, let’s say as it was and remained ... because of the pipes of the engines and air intakes ...
There is nothing new (?) Because all the bells would have been sounded about it for a long time ... at all corners in the internet ... a new radar is in doubt, the engine is "promised" as is now customary in Russia by 2020 ... internal electronic equipment ... will be bought from the French, as is now customary in the country ...
Am I interpreting your answer correctly? So well here from the 5th generation, which is not in the 3rd?

[Wedmak]

Am I interpreting your answer correctly?

No.

So there are only 4 missiles or bombs in the "hidden" places ... and not enough?

Well, this is a model. It is really unknown how many suspension nodes there are. But even if there are 3 in each compartment, this is already 6 missiles! Apart from the suspension on the external nodes (and then you can forget about the low EPR) Decently. Yes, plus 2 rockets for self-defense. A total of 8 explosive missiles with low EPR. Which fighter has more?

due to engine pipes and air intakes ...

They are made differently, the turbine blades are not visible from the front, the EPR is lowered.
internally electronic equipment ... will be bought from the French, as is now customary in the country ...

There is nothing new (?) Because all the bells would have been sounded about it for a long time ... at all corners in the internet ... a new radar is in doubt, the engine is "promised" as is now customary in Russia by 2020 ... internal electronic equipment ... will be bought from the French, as is now customary in the country ...

Uh ... A new glider? And what about the new weapons? What about the new avionics? Please do not be compared to the local Lebarasts, shouting at every step that we are behind, NATO technology is better and generally we better dig a hole for ourselves, lie there and die.

[evil hamster]

Quote: I think so

So there are only 4 missiles or bombs in the "hidden" places ... and not enough?

6 minimum

Quote: I think so

Radar signature ... well, let’s say as it was and remained ... because of the pipes of the engines and air intakes ...

How was anyone? Can you determine the EPR from a photo? And what's wrong with the "engine pipes" and air intakes?

Quote: I think so

There is nothing new (?) Because it would have been trumpeting all the bells for a long time

Everything is new in it, and if you do not know this, then who is to blame for you?

Quote: I think so

new radar - in doubt

- can you learn the materiel? then there will be no stupid questions.

Quote: I think so

the engine is "promised" as is now customary in Russia by 2020

The engine there is already a new ed. 117 what does he not satisfy you with?

Quote: I think so

internally electronic equipment ... will be bought from the French, as is now customary in the country ...

Hmm and you will forgive from where will you wake up? I don’t know about your country, but we have 4 prototypes flying, do you assume that they fly without "internal electronic equipment"?

Quote: I think so

So well here from the 5th generation, which is not in the 3rd?

Is the answer all right for you?

[Zubr]

Or maybe you also have drawings with a detailed description and specification with the materials used ?! :)))

[Kostya pedestrian]

By the way, smart questions.
As a delitant in matters of modern fighters, I am also interested in such topics as the main advantages of this model in the destructive power and range of targets, this "bird" is capable of striking.

Although, the synchronization and the number of control parts of the T-50 is respected, as is their ability to make all kinds of unprecedented maneuvers.

[Fraid]

Well, the questions. After them, then everyone understands that YOU are just an ostrich in 5th generation fighters!
Keep your smart head on and on in the ground! Ahahah)))))))

[Krasnoyarsk]

Rather, he would go to the series, otherwise we are 20 years behind the USA!

[amp]

Let the engine be normal.

[Explore]

The engine as a whole is already normal.
The engines "Product 117" will also be installed on the first production vehicles. It was originally created under the PAK FA. Power - 2 × 8800 (afterburner - 2 × 15000)
The engines "Product 129" will begin to be supplied to the troops from 2015, but the mass transfer of all newly produced PAK FAs is promised only by 2020. Power - 2 × 10900 (afterburner - 2 × 18000)

[queen]

Quote: Explorar

The engine as a whole is already normal.

Believe me, it will be better, your optimism is good))))

[Su24]

AL-41F and so normal, and then it will be even better.

[Vadivak]

Quote: Krasnoyarets

Rather, he would go to the series, otherwise we are 20 years behind the USA!

Why? With F-22 they have a bummer, F-35 is the same crap, We are behind in the number of Su-35 (the best in the world), but not in development

F-22 NOW DO NOT HAVE THE RIGHT TO MAKE LONG FLIGHTS, AND ALSO ALWAYS SHOULD BE LOCATED NEAR YOUR TAKEOFF AND STRIPES TO BE PERMANENT, EXTENDED.

[Hedgehog]

I want to please you, as far as I remember, these restrictions were lifted back last summer.
Well, PAK-FA handsome! I don’t already know that I prefer the T-50 or Su-35BM. and 29.01.10/XNUMX/XNUMX jumped for joy)

[queen]

Quote: Hedgehog

or Su-35BM

+ But the modification of the modernized)))) although))))

[Patriot.ru.]

Usa 20 years in the absence of competition from our side engaged in the manufacture of flying gates

[NauruS]

not a fact, comparing the same Su-35S and raptor, I will not say that the drying is inferior in something!

[Octavian avgust]

Handsome man! We are not waiting for you!

[Arrogant]

there is no doubt a handsome man, but it seems to me that this bird looks more sympathetic

[leon-iv]

I wouldn’t fly worse than CBS

[Nick]

Quote: leon-iv

I wouldn’t fly worse than CBS

Well, CBS was not used for beauty. Most likely CBS gives some useful advantages over a conventional wing.

[afire]

Yes, they are all handsome only because they are our handsome men, there’s not even any talk about combat capabilities - our beautiful car even has beautiful weapons! Mine!

[ATATA]

Yes, but good only in this perspective. And also the top speed at altitude is conditionally equal to 2500 km / h, in fact it is limited to 900 km / h in connection with the destructive loads on the wing and center section. This is the other side of the reverse sweep.

[USNik]

S-37 flew excellently, but during the tests the wings fully developed a resource for fatigue / stress of the material. The slightest damage to the wing edge could lead to catastrophic destruction of the entire structure. And the main plus of the demonstrator, fast maneuverability, is achieved by UHT and advanced mechanization. And of course, handsome! I remember on it back in the gray 90s in an Ice Combat toy ripped up enemy hackers .

[agent]

It’s a pity I didn’t go to the series, one kind of respect inspires ...

[Nick]

Quote: agent

one kind of respect inspires ...

Yes, he looks extreme, I would even say threatening ...

[queen]

Quote: agent

It’s a pity I didn’t go to the series, one kind of respect inspires ...

Went to the series)))) He did the SU-35, they refused PGO. He was like the SU-47. Technology development. So everything is exactly (not counting their number to this day)

[Garrin]

Quote: Rogue

there is no doubt a handsome man, but it seems to me that this bird looks more sympathetic

I would say more predatory.

[Kostya pedestrian]

So it seems to be like an attack aircraft to work on ground targets, and should be harder and less maneuverable?

T-50 - interceptor for medium and higher targets?

[Fraid]

This bird will come in 2050. about. For that maneuverability
what is embedded in this glider is not yet ready element base.
Su-47 is a look at several generations ahead, even against the background of the T-50 !!

[Normal]

Yes, the plane is very beautiful. Especially in the first and fourth photo.

[awerkiev]

Externally, the F-22 Raptor is very similar

[leon-iv]

lol what is it like what is it like?

[Manager]

Quote: awerkiev

Externally, the F-22 Raptor is very similar

What>? Ours is wider and larger, the wings are different, the lantern is different. The filling is completely different. The price is different. Everything is different !!!! I will repeat again !! How do they bleat ???

[Manager]

For those awerkiev who puts a minus.
http://warcyb.org.ru/news/sravnenie_sukhogo_t50_s_f_22/2010-10-27-196 Сравнения!

[Manager]

Here you have external comparisons. Still look alike?

[APASUS]

Why compare them?
It is necessary to compare our Yak-141 which was completely merged to the Americans thanks to Yeltsin and F-22!
Here it is clear who has stolen what ??

[Nitup]

Most likely, you mean not f-22, but f-35, right?

[Zubr]

It would be necessary to reanimate this bird ...

[Zubr]

Given that, our engines have spread and the wing area is larger, our bird is much more stable in flight.

[rodevaan]

Quote: Manager

Here you have external comparisons. Still look alike?

- Look, look. At first glance, I immediately thought of Americans. Now, if they left the SU-1, then they are different as black and white, but these are similar.

[Vadivak]

Quote: Manager

Ours is wider and larger, the wings are different, the lantern is different. The filling is completely different. The price is different. Everything else !!

The main thing is that our terribly useful, but the American is not, flying on it is unhealthy, and those who survive after the flight are tormented by a strange cough,

“Go into the pilots' room after the flights, and you will certainly hear a cough,” Air Force Colonel Soltis told reporters. - All pilots are aware of this. In a room full of F-22 pilots, you will hear this cough constantly. ” Not to mention the fact that the symptoms of hypoxia, as it turned out now, were even handled several times by technicians who worked with the aircraft on the ground - in the case when the aircraft's engines were turned on for warm-up.
the “Raptor” defect (plastic) is simply unavoidable: for this, the aircraft must be redesigned. And the current one is easier to throw in a landfill. This is what the former pilot, Senator McCain, is proposing to do now.

[Gemar]

Quote: Vadivak

The main thing is that our terribly useful, but the American is not, flying on it is unhealthy, and those who survive after the flight are tormented by a strange cough,

Yes, not a strange cough tormenting American F-22 pilots, but a smelly FART. It’s just a shame for them to cover this fact in the news, so the Americans decided to mask the shameful less dumb.
I won’t be surprised if the F-35 pilots show massive strabismus after flights, coupled with uneven baldness ...

[Armata]

Quote: Manager

How do they look like bleating ???

So that 5 generation. Only different 5 generation. Different standards

[queen]

Quote: Mechanic

Quote: Manager

How do they look like bleating ???

So that 5 generation. Only different 5 generation. Different standards

Hi Zhen .... I think he must be unique

[Armata]

Quote: regin

Hi Zhen .... I think he must be unique

Hi Volodya. Duck gliders at Yankov stands are made by both 5 generations. There is such an office for MOOG under-covers, so they ordered the former MO from them for the T50, and not with us. That's why for an inexperienced look, they are very similar.

[queen]

Quote: Mechanic

That's why for an inexperienced look, they are very similar.

they are different, you know)))) it happened so that we create a glider, the engine later, maybe for the better

[Bronis]

Well, there are two wings, two engines, and there is a tail. Well, straight twins.

[ATATA]

Quote: awerkiev

Externally, the F-22 Raptor is very similar

Here you are.

[awerkiev]

I consider that it is necessary to evaluate adequately! IF THERE IS SIMILARITY THAT IT IS! In addition, I clarified that EXTERNAL ... About the performance characteristics, and the dimensions I did not write a word ... If you did not notice a similar body geometry, then this is to the optometrist ...

[Manager]

Quote: awerkiev

I consider that it is necessary to evaluate adequately! IF THERE IS SIMILARITY THAT IT IS! In addition, I clarified that EXTERNAL ... About the performance characteristics, and the dimensions I did not write a word ... If you did not notice a similar body geometry, then this is to the optometrist ...

Like no more than a family of birds. The pigeon and the crow are similar too. They live in cities, the size is almost the same, and they both fly. But ЕПРСТ throw a stone at me who will say that Crow and Dove are similar ????

[awerkiev]

rather like a sparrow and a tent ... The dove and the crow are very different ...

[Vadivak]

Quote: Manager

The pigeon and the crow are similar too.

Right. However, the pigeon crow pecks because she has a mind and physical fitness

[Gemar]

Quote: awerkiev

similar body geometry

Yoshkin body! Yitishkin blinker!
And also our intelligence services, airbag and horn, stole from the Americans. Russian scientists reproduced this and installed it on the T-50.

Quote: awerkiev

IF THERE IS SIMILARITY THAT IT IS! To the same, I clarified that EXTERNAL

- Does F-22 have PGO ??? No!
- The diamond wing of the T-50 ??? No!
- Are the engines f-22 apart? No!
- Etc. etc.
So where is the bastard resemblance? According to your logic, we copied all the missiles from the Americans - but what, geometrically it looks like after all ...

Quote: awerkiev

About the performance characteristics, and the dimensions I did not write a word ...

It’s you in vain ... Well, what would you have written - and we would have neighing ...

Quote: awerkiev

I consider that it is necessary to evaluate adequately!

And why then climb with your comparisons ???

[spanchbob]

The engines on the t-50 are separated (forced) due to the braking parachute. It is already very large, but without it the braking distance ... but on American gliders it is used in critical situations. And because of this, the T-50 is more similar to the YF-23. The first Soviet missile (air-to-air) was copied in the 50s from an American missile that did not explode and was stuck in the body of a Chinese fighter.

[Parabelum]

Nobody canceled aerodynamics, according to the statement of work, the most optimal form is this. Aerodynamics such aerodynamics ....

[Sochi]

He’s handsome damn ... but compared to the previous ones, Su has lost a little graceful predation and menacing ... he’s somehow more direct. Although, a matter of taste. The main thing is to be the best in efficiency!

[Nitup]

And on the contrary, I really like its flat profile. Gives some menacing, in my opinion.

[vadson]

it’s good that we took into account the mistakes of f-22 - on earth they will learn to work humanly
By the way, who is in the know, I don’t read the articles I write reviews everyone writes like T50 is second only to f-22 in aerial combat? what if not a secret?

[Nitup]

But what can they believe, all scribblers, where can they borrow, who is inferior to whom? Moreover, ours has not yet passed all the tests with weapons, etc. And in general, it is designed not to make it worse than the American one, as it was often done in the USSR (but it usually turned out better), but, as it were, in perspective, the best plane in the world. This applies to all recent and future developments of military equipment. That’s what Putin and Rogozin say.

[ImPerts]

Nobody knows the real performance characteristics of the F-22, no one knows the real and target performance characteristics of the T-50. All comparisons from the category "And if, but if only ...". Experience shows that our planes are not worse. As the experience of pilots who conducted training battles with planes of a potential enemy shows, the combination of the performance characteristics of domestic aircraft and the skill of the pilots gives the right to assert that our Air Force is better.

[patsantre]

Quote: ImPerts

that our air force is better.

Believe it yourself, despite the fact that our Air Force has not been updated for almost 20 years, and they have the same 4 generation stuffed with modern stuffing and pilots have 3 times more air raids? (Recently in 2).

[ImPerts]

I believe. You can go on about some and shout that all the polymers are spilled. But why? I’m not going to mark the corners in advance from fear. The park is being updated, modernization is underway. There is kerosene for flights. A raid is a gain.

[patsantre]

And what’s the fear? You need to look the facts in the eye, and if you persistently overestimate your capabilities and naively believe that the enemy has done the finger like you do, nothing good will come of it. Your faith will not become stronger.

[Manager]

Quote: ImPerts

As the experience of pilots who conducted training battles with aircraft of a potential enemy shows

Give examples of such battles. So purely for the sake of curiosity. (Just do not need me to give examples from Battlefeeld 3 =)))

[ImPerts]

http://blog.kp.ru/users/adpilot/post263485526/

[Stiletto]

A beautiful, powerful, proud aircraft. Just a sight for sore eyes! Oh, how impatient it is to look after a break-in !!!

[Misantrop]

Quote: vadson

what if not a secret?

In two things. He is Russian and costs less

[HAM]

[quote = awerkiev] Outwardly with the F-22 “Raptor” is very similar [/
something is not visible so that americos flew on snowy weather

[awerkiev]

Guys, I start screaming in tantrums ... EXTERNAL .. And in general, mine, mine! branded minuses

[cherkas.oe]

Quote: awerkiev

. And generally mine, mine! branded minuses

Ahh, gave up? Maladets, but he looks like he’s

[ImPerts]

For so many years, they have hidden him in dark corners and are afraid to show that he really stands. Although there were plenty of opportunities.
"I am tormented by vague doubts ..." - one famous film character used to say

[Burbulator]

In Alaska, the F-22 unit is deployed.
And the snow is there - by me ... knee-deep.
Is not it?

[crocodile25]

Recently looked at f-22 impressed bird is not an example of fu-35.

[lewerlin53rus]

Honestly, the Raptor was not impressed. And not because he is American. It's just that our machines of the previous generation make rings more abruptly than this gold bar. As for the Berkut, this is a purely experimental aircraft for testing technologies. And the development of this concept is further hindered only by the lack of materials capable of withstanding the loads arising in structural elements of this type. At the moment, these disadvantages negate all the advantages of a wing with reverse sweep.

[crocodile25]

In no case did I want to belittle either 50 or sous 47 I just said that I liked the bird

[patsantre]

Quote: lewerlin53rus

It’s just that our machines of the previous generation make rings more abruptly than this gold bar.

Do you need a plane to make a plane, or to fight?)

[lewerlin53rus]

Quote: patsantre

Do you need a plane to make a plane, or to fight?)

Kolenza is maneuverability in close combat, and it’s naive to hope that air combat will cost only over-the-horizon missile launch.

[patsantre]

Maneuverability can come in handy, I don’t argue, but judging by your comment, you don’t look at anything besides it. Counting that maneuverability decides everything is naive.

[lewerlin53rus]

Quote: patsantre

, you do not look at anything besides her

But in this video, nothing else is shown.

[patsantre]

Then they would have written - in terms of maneuverability, the raptor was not impressed)

[dmitreach]

you can see how elegantly and without strains the laws of gravity and aerodynamics are violated .....
Cada Crap_tor will depict something close, then we’ll talk about avionics and thrust-weight ratio, but for now. unlike Su - this is a flying CRAP.

[dmitreach]

In the third minute, the drying computer caught a bug and the plane "hovered" glued to the cloud ...
and in the second minute - a flat corkscrew.

[Corsair]

Quote: dmitreach

In the third minute, the drying computer caught a bug and the plane "hovered" glued to the cloud ...
and in the second minute - a flat corkscrew.

Bravo, Russian pilot! And the airplane is the envy of pilots all over the world ....

[alex popov]

Super video !!!!!! Spread "on a patch" is generally out of comments !!!! A bad car! Cool pilot !!!!!!!!!

[RUS-36]

I looked 100 times at our handsome man and every time fascinates .... and I will still look ... The beauty of Strength and Power.

[Wedmak]

you can see how elegantly and without strains the laws of gravity and aerodynamics are violated .....

Well, about breaking the law, you turned it down. All according to the laws, just the design of the aircraft and engines allows you to fly at supercritical angles of attack. And in order to fly like that, the pilot must generally be from God.

[Nitup]

Someone says that he looks like f-22. Yes, indeed, there are similarities. But, I think that this is due to certain requirements for 5th generation aircraft. As if the planes of previous generations were not at all alike.

[Sleptsoff]

But it is worth noting that the amers were the first to apply a similar glider scheme for a plane of the 5th knee, and all other countries have already begun to copy. The same crap with drones. Like it or not, amers are pioneers in aviation, whether you like it or not.

[Nitup]

Well, yes, of course, the F-15 is not a copy of the MiG-25, and the F-35 is not at all like the Yak-141, and our American "pioneers" planes were hijacked just like that, to take a closer look at how beautiful they are.

[Windbreak]

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Quote: Nitup

Well, yes, of course, and the F-15 is not a copy of the MiG-25

Of course, aircraft with completely different characteristics and purpose. And the F-15 made its first flight 4 years before the hijacking of the MiG-25

[Nitup]

Well, how does he look like they knew before the hijacking. And after the hijacking, they got access to everything that is needed. The fact that aircraft have different characteristics and purpose does not mean that similar solutions cannot be used in them.

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: Burel

And the F-15 made its first flight 4 years before the hijacking of the MiG-25

This is what you can say on American sites, in real F 15 a clean copy

[Ruslan67]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

in real F 15 blank copy

Not clean but vile sleep burnt

[Windbreak]

On Russian sites, that is what airwar.ru/enc/fighter/f15.html says. And better pay attention to the F-15 climb records in 1975 (a year before the theft).

[erased]

There would be 300-400 of them and it would be nice!

[DimYang]

It would be very stupid and shortsighted to underestimate the f-22. This is really a very good plane. The well-known drawback is the price, but why look into someone else’s pocket. Our fifth generation also lacks the main one, the fact that they are not yet in the right amount and time for us to spare. Although the fact that we do not stand still can not but rejoice.

[DEfindER]

If it were not for the years of oblivion from 91 to 2000, we would have long had squadrons of such birds. And now I’m glad that we are waking up .. And the F-22 has been really being worked on for 20 years, I think they will eventually bring it to mind ..

[gabatikuk]

I think that everything will be ok, ours are catching up already lost,

[ImPerts]

Quote: Manager

Give examples of such battles.

"... We listened to his story, drinking vodka with an unusual Asian flavor, and snacking on sweets and cookies.
... Together with the then Major Karabasov, their wingman, and a group of chiefs, they flew to America on a pair of Su-27UB combat training fighters. ... At that time, the Americans themselves were demonstrating a demonstration battle in airspace .... Probably, it is not worth telling in detail to everyone the well-known fact that then our pilots, when jointly conducting several air demonstration battles, cleaned up the best overseas aces. The superiority of domestic technology and flying skills of our couple was so impressive that the American "eagles" stopped smiling and shaking hands when they met on the ground. ... "
http://topwar.ru/13917-hotel-privrat-da-ne-smog.html
You will find in more detail yourself.

[MY THOUGHT]

yes, it flew! we wake up to wait when our "patriots" will give the Chinese copies for copying, following the su - 35s

[awerkiev]

uuuuuuu))) schA you minuses to throw awesome! Here objectivity is not very recognized)))

[MY THOUGHT]

Quote: awerkiev

Here objectivity is not very recognized)))

Everything is like in the army! Lick your ass, wake up the general, say that in fact, wake up the captain

[Perchik]

And I don’t really like the design, they did a little tadpole.
Disproportionately long nose, eye cutting.
The cabin should be closer to the wings, in this respect the Raptor is just a beautiful sweetie. But it tastes and color :)

Let it fly :)

[Nitup]

During a recent visit to Moscow, Xi Jinping signed a contract for the supply to China by 2017 of 4 PAK FA aircraft with second-stage engines and another 4 Su-35S.

[arnulla]

From the first of April ...)))

[Gemar]

Quote: Nitup

a contract for the supply to China by 2017 of 4 PAK FA aircraft with engines of the second stage and another 4 Su-35S.

Firstly, the Su-35S is only for the Russian Air Force.
Secondly, the engines of the second stage by 2017. will not be ready, unfortunately.
Thirdly, minus the troll, minus the PM, blacklisted, comrade Putin, on the contrary.

[Alexey M]

Handsome snub-nosed. The view from the bottom is generally impressive. I think it will not be brought to the series. Most likely it is a passage. Something new will surprise. It will be like an experimental model. And in a series of his modification will go. But still beautiful!

[patsantre]

What nonsense, everything new in it is already embodied. Read more news, in my opinion no one has any doubt that he will be in the series.

[APOCALIPTIC]

And already eat two rusty pipes which are in full swing for radars in general for the 5-th generation

[svp67]

Quote: APOCALIPTIC

And already eat two rusty pipes which are in full swing for radars in general for the 5-th generation

Sir! Envy in silence ...

[AIR ZNAK]

The similarity of the planes is externally explained by the laws of aerodynamics. But for such a handsome man as the S-37 (Su-47), the time has not come yet. Experiments on the reverse sweep of the wing were also KB Mig (MiG-8 1945) and in Sweden, the concern SAAB (Wiggen plane) but everything rests on the strength of the structure of the airframe and wing experiencing extreme dynamic loads more precisely in the strength of the materials used in the construction of the aircraft ..

[RUS-36]

And now they would have to increase their park by a factor of 3 ..... Handsome - STRENGTH

[patsantre]

3 times - is it up to 12 aircraft chtol? Oh yes, with 12 aircraft you can conquer half the world.
You think that write.

[Nitup]

most likely, he meant the park planned before 2020.

[APOCALIPTIC]

, We’ll navigate with 12 aircraft, well, to hell with it, let's increase the park 4 times

[Alexey M]

Russian realities once advertise and praise is not casual. Skok golden eagle was taken to exhibitions and boasted to him that he was recognized as interesting but unpromising. Since the wing from the composite works only until the first hit, it collapses there. And the new one in PAKFA does not hurt a lot. Stealth technology lope years? The phased radar also came up with a rejected thrust vector not yesterday. So, most of the achievements of the Soviet era. This is not bad, this is the course of life, the idea must be taken out to give birth and to nourish. PAKFA has collected the best in 30 years of world aircraft manufacturing. But the revolutionary technique that was invented in 2000 we will see in metal in 20 years. So in vain curse and put the cons.

[Ro-man]

And I would like to see his super-maneuverability ... At one time, the Su-27 surprised with the Cobra, then the Su-37 with the Frolov Chakra and the same Cobra, but with a greater angle ... Do you think the T-50 will be something surprise or has everything already been invented for this type of aircraft?

[Nitup]

I don’t know specifically, but Sergei Bogdan said in an interview that the T-50 would be even more maneuverable than the SU-35.

[darksoul]

Are able to do our military equipment, Su27, MiG29, Su-35 are now T-50 .... very beautiful cars ..... pleasing to the eye

[toldanger]

Beautiful machine! We are waiting for her in a series!

[druidcat]

Russian engineering thought knows no barriers. Beautiful plane.

[Hius-124]

Well, WHEN already ??? !!!! I want to be proud !!! Including: count in combat units !!!

[shpuntik]

Something tells me, did not the Americans whistle the design of the glider in our dashing times? Painfully with "Rapt" are similar ... Considering our lag by 20 years, and the fact that we did not start working from scratch, it turns out that way. Apparently someone pushed the drawings in due time. But ours is more beautiful outwardly, more elegant, it is visible even to a specialist.

[Nitup]

In our country, it seems, the 5th generation fighter was designed by the MiG-1.44 and S-37, but the F-22 is not similar to them.

[Fraid]

Do not tell me how much it is planned to buy T-50 in units and Su-35s in units in the Army?

[ikrut]

Cool birds !!!!
He read all the comments and waited for everyone - maybe someone will say, but where is the 52nd? Why is it not visible? 51, 53. 54 - is, and 52 - where? What is being tested on it? Can anyone know?

[ImPerts]

Quote: patsantre

And what’s the fear? You need to look the facts in the eye, and if you persistently overestimate your capabilities and naively believe that the enemy has done the finger like you do, nothing good will come of it. Your faith will not become stronger.

Somewhere I already heard it ... Yes, and in 41, realists suggested surrendering, and pessimists already gave up.
Or maybe not rock the boat and, as suggested, become a small peaceful country, within the framework of the Moscow Principality? We cannot oppose NATe.
I remember one grandfather - an academician, when asked by his granddaughter: "What to do with high-tech gadgets that fly in space?" Grandfather replied that if two buckets of bolts and nuts are dumped in orbit on two mutually orthogonal trajectories, then the entire satellite constellation will be massively accelerated. Unfortunately, nationality will not be understood either. And how will all the fancy stuff work? And the connection? After all, you have to remember how to work with a paper card ?!
Tricked out things are good, but they should work. I buy a mobile for certain purposes, and not to shock others and to brag to girlfriends.
Let's face the facts:
"... In 1995, the commander of the tactical aviation of the US Air Force, General Joseph Ralston, defending before Congress the urgent need for the United States in the program of the newest (and very expensive!) F-22 fighter, bluntly stated:" No intelligence is needed to to ascertain the superiority of the Su-27 over the F-15 in maneuverability and thrust-to-weight ratio. " And this is not at all a posture when “squeezing out” additional appropriations from the US Congress for individual military programs, but already an established fact ... ".
“Dry” in “battles”
A. Yavorsky “Aviation and Cosmonautics No. 5 2006”
http://www.airwar.ru/history/locwar/xussr/su_fight/su_fight.html
And in the dry residue. There is a formidable prodigy, huge cost and poorly adapted to war. And about the 3 and 4 generation aircraft, it is written in the article. I especially liked the mention of the method of warfare in the Soviet style.

[Rus_87]

Guys, but no one knows how our amers called the T-50? Well, they always give our names their names, such as Flanker, Foxbet, etc.

[fzr1000]

Firefox kinda.

[Wedmak]

It is interesting to compare the impressions of an airplane when it is on the earth and in the sky. On earth, as if awkward, reluctantly crawling. In the sky .... handsome!

[fzr1000]

Hellraiser (Hellraiser) is a good NATO name. With meaning.

[VVooVVaa]

And how rockets are hiding in his wings. Did they look too roomy?

[Wedmak]

Do not hide in the wings. Missiles are hidden in 2 compartments between the air intakes. And there are two more small ones at the root of the wing.
Like this:

[svp67]

Quote: VVooVVaa

And how rockets are hiding in his wings. Did they look too roomy?

Duc, in the fuselage womb there is a place ...

[avkeys]

In my opinion - the most beautiful fighter in the world! (Well, of course, except for the 27th series)

[pinecone]

The famous LII named after Gromov should be part of the Ministry of Defense, and not belong to some unknown shareholders.

[Manitoo]

Quote: patsantre

Quote: ImPerts

that our air force is better.

Believe it yourself, despite the fact that our Air Force has not been updated for almost 20 years, and they have the same 4 generation stuffed with modern stuffing and pilots have 3 times more air raids? (Recently in 2).

It is not entirely correct to compare pilots in different countries, because records are kept in different ways, if I’m not mistaken, records are kept from the moment of take-off of the aircraft until the time of landing, and in the United States from the moment the pilot loads his ass in the seat of the plane and until the moment of unloading, if not correct.

[Boa kaa]

Quote: regin

hedgehog most))

Thank you for the video! Aviation May children's dream. My father was a pilot, I love airplanes so far. Dreamed of flying, not enough health. With tal sailor. But I still respect the military men: they are special people! May God grant them health and happiness!

[Romn]

Insanely beautiful car, most likely would be mass production!)

[Kostya pedestrian]

Here the topic for discussion is endless. But it’s interesting, depending on what modern pilots squeeze out of their combat vehicles, the opinion of our aces of the Great Patriotic War. For them, such piloting is likely that for us piloting a UFO. It’s unrealistic to look - cars make turns as if in zero gravity! Cars - 5+!

[Fraid]

Quote: Nevsky

Su-35 (27) is the most beautiful in its class / generation.
A T-50 in his

[Fraid]

Quote: Manager

47

Go out onto the track of Formula 1 and start likewise convincing everyone before losing consciousness
that the cars are not similar to each other. Arguing their point of view with those supposedly
for Mercedes mclaren in engines, this and that, for Renault and Ferarri in the suspension there and there
and write a bunch of things. They will agree with you in the parameters, but as soon as you insist that the fireballs of the teams are NOT similar to each other, you will also ask to throw a stone at you to refute .... guy, I don’t envy you))) Only I would be a cobblestone you blew the head off for myopia dodged in stupidity;)

Again. Nobody says that the USA and RUSSIA have the same aircraft of the latest generation, nobody! People see the similarity of design, tail angles, stealth cuts of bodies and other things. But the vocabulary of the words "similar" and "identical" in Russian is not available to you. Alas :)