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Russian paratroopers can still surprise: an airmobile church was landed near Ryazan

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On Thursday, March 28, in the course of a battalion tactical exercise held near Ryazan with the landing of military equipment and personnel of one of the paratroop battalions of the Tula unit of the Airborne Forces from the military transport aircraft Il-76, the regimental mobile temple was landed. It is worth noting that this landing was carried out for the first time, which the Russian military are still ready to surprise the public. Simultaneously with the temple, the paratrooper military priests landed, who landed after the parachute platform with cargo from the collapsible structures of the mobile church, in order to start assembling it directly at the landing site.


For the first time, the military and representatives of the church began to talk about the development of a landing Orthodox church for the Airborne Forces in March 2012. Then the Russian Ministry of Defense made a statement about the proposal from the ROC for the development of airmobile churches. As a result, less than a year later, in February 2013, the mobile temple was presented to the public and the military, made on the basis of the KamAZ truck.
Russian paratroopers can still surprise: an airmobile church was landed near Ryazan

Also in February, on the territory of the Church of the Annunciation of the Most Holy Theotokos, which is located at the headquarters of the Airborne Forces, the paratroopers studied the capabilities and tactical and technical characteristics of a mobile landing Orthodox church on the chassis of the KamAZ vehicle. Classes, which were attended by cadets RVVDKU - Ryazan Higher Airborne Command School, undergoing training in existing military units, included both practical and theoretical part. The practical part involved the phased installation of elements of a mobile church under the leadership of the clergy.

According to the head of the class, Father Andrei, the paratroopers love speed and pressure - the speed of deployment and collapse of the airmobile Orthodox church is only 5-6 minutes. The airmobile church itself consists of 2 parts: a trailer with a life support module and a tent with special unbreakable church utensils, including icons, an altar and other items necessary for the administration of worship. All church utensils before landing are wrapped in foam rubber, so that nothing is damaged during the landing. At the same time, the icons in the airmobile church also meet the specifics of use: they are made from special banner fabric.

The landing of the temple is carried out using the standard parachute platform “П-7” adopted by the Russian army, which is used for landing of the airborne troops. Before landing on this platform are loaded all the elements of a collapsible design, placed in special boxes. The life-support module itself, in addition to a sufficiently powerful diesel generator on 6 kW, includes an air conditioner and a refrigerator. In addition, a set of sound-amplifying and multimedia equipment is included in the airmobile church.

In the field, such a temple is served by 6 people: a priest, a sexton, a deacon, and 3 choristers. The main purpose of the airmobile church is to provide worship to the paratroopers of the Orthodox faith directly at the site of the exercise or in the area of ​​the alleged military conflict. Previously, the mobile church has already managed to pass successful tests on the exercises of the Airborne Forces, which were held in Novorossiysk, Tula and Ulyanovsk.

Representatives of the Ministries of Defense of the Russian Federation explained that every year more and more recruits who consider themselves to be believers and profess Orthodoxy enter the army. In such circumstances, the opportunity to pray and take communion, the presence of a priest is becoming increasingly important. The chief priest of the Airborne Forces believes that the need for a temple in military units meets the specifics of religion.

According to the spokesman for the Airborne Forces Colonel Alexander Kucherenko, on Wednesday parachutes jumped with parachutes, and on Thursday for the first time stories the airborne forces successfully landed an airmobile temple. “On Wednesday, the priests made 2 training parachute jumps from the An-2 plane, and on Thursday an airmobile church was successfully parachuted from the IL-76, and the chaplains also landed from it,” Kurchenko said. On the ground, the priests, together with the paratroopers quickly assembled the temple.

In the airborne troops they noted that the deployment of the airmobile church after the landing took place according to standard regulations. The paratroopers took no more than 5-7 minutes to do this. According to Aleksandr Kurchenko, the workplace of chaplain paratroopers has quite impressive dimensions: the dimensions of the 8 tent on 20 meters. Priest Mikhail Vasilyev, who is the head of the airborne unit in the Synodal Department of the Russian Orthodox Church for interaction with the army and law enforcement agencies, told the newspaper Gazeta.Ru that 10 priests of the Russian Orthodox Church regularly parachute. According to him, this is a peculiar form to get to his flock, which consists of paratroopers. Often, the paratroopers find themselves in places where Makar did not drive calves, and priests need ways to get to these places, Father Mikhail said.

According to him, the chaplains serve for the army, helping servicemen to find meaning in the dangerous and difficult task of serving the army and the Fatherland. Priest Mikhail Vasilyev notes the fact that there were churches and chaplains in the Russian army before the 1917 revolution, and Colonel Aleksandr Kurchenko said that the need for priests in the army only grows over the years. According to him, according to statistics, the number of believers among recruits comes to 90%.

Currently, in addition to the Orthodox in the ranks of our army, there are representatives of other faiths, but, according to the priest, Muslims or Jews have no urgent need for a temple: “For Muslims and Jews, the temple is not so important, since they can pray at any place , for this they need only a mat. At the same time, the Orthodox need a bunch of specific items to perform the sacraments of the church and require it. This is the specificity of religion. ”

According to Archpriest Father Mikhail Vasilyev, today, because of the very tight combat training schedule, paratroopers during their service almost do not happen in places of their permanent deployment, and, accordingly, they do not have the opportunity to visit the stationary regimental chapels and temples. In this case, they will come to the aid of the airmobile temple. Currently, military units of the Airborne Forces have 10 functioning Orthodox military churches, which are located on the territory of military camps. Today, the service for the spiritual nourishment of paratroopers is carried out by 8 Orthodox military priests. At the same time, as part of an experiment in the Ulyanovsk airborne unit, a prayer room was also created for Russian military Muslims.

Information sources:
- http://www.gazeta.ru/social/2013/03/27/5118913.shtml
- http://function.mil.ru/news_page/country/[email protected]
- http://pln-pskov.ru/society/129414.html
- http://news.mail.ru/inregions/center/62/politics/12518891
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  1. zveroboy666
    zveroboy666 April 1 2013 09: 35 New
    +3
    Catastrophe.
    1. Vanek
      Vanek April 1 2013 09: 42 New
      +5
      Quote: zveroboy666
      Catastrophe


      And why catastrophic?
      1. atalef
        atalef April 1 2013 12: 01 New
        +4
        Quote: Vanek
        And why catastrophic?

        PR, only PR. Why distract the mat. funds, resources. Well, just something that the Airborne Forces cannot live without. Interestingly, Muslims (the same employees in the Airborne Forces) may ask them to drop a minaret, but the Jews, of course, the synagogue. In Russia, after all, the equality of religions, then even a Buddha can be thrown off (if for Kolbmyks with Buryats) and a church for Catholics.
        It’s just that I already see - a string of airmobile churches on parachutes, and followed by paratrooper soldiers, everyone prayed in their own way - and in ATAKU.
        1. Ascetic
          Ascetic April 1 2013 14: 35 New
          +9
          Quote: atalef
          ) may be asked to drop a minaret, but the Jews, of course, the synagogue. In Russia, after all, the equality of religions, then even a Buddha can be discarded (if for Kolbmyks with Buryats) and a church for Catholics.


          The head of the Airborne Forces sector at the Synodal Department of the Russian Orthodox Church for Cooperation with the Armed Forces and Law Enforcement Agencies, Priest Mikhail Vasiliev also explained why mobile temples are necessary for the right-wing paratroopers:
          «Muslims and Jews do not need a templeThey pray in every place, for this they only need a rug. To perform church demands and sacraments, we need a bunch of specific items. This is the specificity of religion. ”


          The regulation on organizing work with believing military personnel of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation was enacted by order of the Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation on January 24, 2010. In accordance with this document, the assistant commander of the compound for work with believing military personnel in his official activity does not replace officer educators, his work is aimed at spiritual education of servicemen of the Orthodox faith, to meet their religious needs. The military priest conducts work with military personnel only in the personal time of military personnel, without interfering in their daily life activities and combat training activities.
          1. atalef
            atalef April 1 2013 16: 09 New
            -4
            Quote: Ascetic
            To perform church demands and sacraments, we need a bunch of specific items. This is the specificity of religion. ”

            Laughed. So the Orthodox paratrooper without a flying temple, well, just can’t fulfill their religious needs.
            1. Ascetic
              Ascetic April 1 2013 18: 42 New
              +4
              Quote: atalef
              Laughed. So the Orthodox paratrooper without a flying temple, well, just can’t fulfill their religious needs.


              And what's so funny. But can we laugh at this together?

              Among the numerous directorates and commands of the General Staff of the IDF there is one that does not solve combat missions, but fulfills an important spiritual mission in the army. it Chief Military Rabbi (Rabbanut), whose main purpose is to satisfy the religious requests of military personnel and monitoring compliance with the laws of Halacha in the army The apparatus of the military rabbinate monitors the implementation of kashrut standards in military units and bases, observance of Jewish holidays and religious customs in wartime and peacetime. Stationary synagogues operate at all large army bases; regular military visits by officers of the military rabbinate are organized to meet the religious needs of military personnel at remote locations.
              The number of religious military personnel, mainly representing religious zionism movement. They are characterized by high motivation for military service, since the protection of Eretz Israel is a sacred duty for the Jews, a mitzvah. 40% of all IDF officers are religious people. There are special military educational institutions in the army, in which the training of military professionals is combined with an in-depth study of the Tanakh. These include the Or-Etzion command college and military yeshivas (yeshivot hesder).
              Military Rabbi conducts important work to strengthen the spiritual and moral values ​​of the Israeli army

              Quote: atalef
              PR, only PR. Why distract the mat. funds, resources

              Indeed, why educate Jewish nationalists in a democratic Israel?
              1. Oberon
                Oberon April 1 2013 20: 22 New
                0
                Orthodox celebrate in the field. BUT NOT IN THE TEMPLE !!!!
        2. datur
          datur April 1 2013 21: 03 New
          +1
          Well, you and your hosts are promoting from across the ocean, and constantly, and everywhere! wink and we can’t belay : all the more so our Batyushki were fighting, at one time even regiments were led into attacks !!!!! yes not like your rabbis with pace !! laughing it will be necessary and we will drop the mosque !!! (but the synagogue already fire this is yours) wink
    2. Narkom
      Narkom April 1 2013 09: 47 New
      +2
      What is a disaster ???
      1. stas52
        stas52 April 1 2013 09: 58 New
        17
        Yesterday I saw this in the news. I have a question: why do I need an airmobile temple?
        If for exercises this is one thing, but in my opinion it distracts from the main activities, and if for military use, as far as I know, landing should be carried out on the territory occupied by the enemy, and in my opinion there will be no time to deploy the temple, and nowhere, but you can pray in the field and in any room, and even underground.
        1. baltika-18
          baltika-18 April 1 2013 10: 32 New
          +6
          Quote: stas52
          Yesterday I saw this in the news. I have a question: why do I need an airmobile temple?
          If for exercises this is one thing, but in my opinion it distracts from the main activities, and if for military use, as far as I know, landing should be carried out on the territory occupied by the enemy, and in my opinion there will be no time to deploy the temple, and nowhere, but you can pray in the field and in any room, and even underground

          I support, I also can not understand.
          In addition to the desire of any high ranks to be in the "stream" and the desire to surprise, nothing is visible.
        2. smirnov
          smirnov April 1 2013 22: 36 New
          +1
          It is better to give the place in the transport vehicle occupied by the mobile church for something more useful behind the front line, for example "Nona" or BMD, I think there will be more sense ...
    3. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich April 1 2013 12: 00 New
      +1
      I first read the trash ....))))))
    4. Letun
      Letun April 1 2013 16: 17 New
      0
      Quote: zveroboy666
      Catastrophe.

      Yes, my. You look at the calendar. Today is the 1st of April, being conducted as children, honestly laughing
      1. Lopatov
        Lopatov April 1 2013 16: 23 New
        +6
        This is not the first of April. Type yourself in a search engine.



        Priests of the Airborne Forces will be trained in the use of a landing Orthodox church
        March 6 2012
        http://ria.ru/defense_safety/20120306/586014546.html
    5. vasvnik
      vasvnik April 1 2013 20: 23 New
      +2
      Looking for someone is a disaster, but for someone it is really a joy.
    6. Stalinets
      Stalinets April 2 2013 04: 55 New
      0
      Definitely ....
  2. dmitry46
    dmitry46 April 1 2013 09: 48 New
    +4
    And I like the news! The main thing is not to the detriment of training. But during the rest it’s very useful to go to such a temple!
  3. omsbon
    omsbon April 1 2013 09: 49 New
    14
    Airborne forces can surprise not only with an air temple!
  4. klimpopov
    klimpopov April 1 2013 09: 49 New
    +6
    It would be better if they landed a special airmobile hospital ...
    Or to include the functions of the hospital in the functions of the temple ...
    Also in February, on the territory of the Church of the Annunciation of the Blessed Virgin Mary, located at the headquarters of the Airborne Forces, classes were held to study the paratroopers' capabilities and the tactical and technical characteristics of a mobile landing Orthodox church on the chassis of the KamAZ car. Classes in which cadets took part


    Uh ... first of April? ...
  5. erased
    erased April 1 2013 10: 05 New
    16
    Temples and icons instead of new technology - this is our way!
    Moral education is an extremely important and necessary thing! But how to mentally educate an atheist, Muslim, Buddhist? For them, mosques, pagodas and libraries are not being thrown off.
    Skew only increases the odds.
    Now, if the news sounded like this - at the regimental exercises, 100 BMD-4MA, 150 Tirg-6D armored combat vehicles, and about fifty other new equipment were parachuted - I would only see the advantages of such an article!
    1. FC SKIF
      FC SKIF April 1 2013 12: 52 New
      +1
      A very good idea. The landing has such a job that in some cases there is no one to ask for help except God.
      Quote: erased
      Temples and icons instead of new technology - this is our way!

      I agree with this.
    2. baltika-18
      baltika-18 April 1 2013 16: 32 New
      +3
      Quote: erased
      Temples and icons instead of new technology - this is our way!

      Stern, what are you?
      And the temple is the technique.
      It includes a life support module.
      Life Support Module:
      1. 6 kW diesel generator
      2.Refrigerator
      3.Air conditioning
      4. A set of multimedia and sound amplifying equipment.
      So comfort is provided. fellow
  6. Alexey Prikazchikov
    Alexey Prikazchikov April 1 2013 10: 10 New
    +3
    Make sure everything in our army has both a UAV and a collimator for each fighter with an individual radio station and normal armor appeared. Bmdeshki 1i 2 finally replaced. In only ... the temple of the airborne was not enough.
  7. Letnab
    Letnab April 1 2013 10: 14 New
    13
    recalls how before the revolution the royal family handed out icons and daggers to hospitals ... Mlyn, I can’t imagine how in a combat situation, behind enemy lines, when ammunition, equipment, artillery, etc. are required. suddenly a temple lands on his head .... they say God's help .... yes rest in peace .... and in fact this will happen in kind! Orthodox, no offense!
  8. TRex
    TRex April 1 2013 10: 17 New
    +4
    Yeah ... they survived ... The priests climbed into the plane. Soon, some triptych will be thrown on the ISS so that the astronauts knocked on the skin with their foreheads ...
    We live in the 21 century, we discover the secrets of the universe and atom, we will soon walk on Mars and the Moon, and this ... all rushing and rushing ... NO GOD, NO JESUS, NO ALLAH ... THERE IS MIND. HEY PEOPLE! TURN ON THE HEAD!

    Our penetration of the planet
    Particularly noticeable in the distance -
    In a public Paris toilet
    There are inscriptions in Russian.
    (V.S. Vysotsky)
    1. atalef
      atalef April 1 2013 12: 02 New
      +2
      Quote: TRex
      Soon some triptych on the ISS

      Icons are already there request
    2. GG2012
      GG2012 April 1 2013 15: 10 New
      +5
      Quote: TRex
      Yeah ... they survived ... The priests climbed into the plane. Soon, some triptych will be thrown on the ISS so that the astronauts knocked on the skin with their foreheads ...

      "After the message about the Miracle of the airborne landing of the Temple, on the" Desktop "of the Patriarch's computer, the icons" My Documents "and" Network Neighborhood "were pacified.
      winked
  9. Lopatov
    Lopatov April 1 2013 10: 32 New
    +5
    On the one hand, of course, game.

    On the other hand, it is an element of psychological warfare. If there is an amphibious club property, why not be an orphaned Orthodox church?
    1. atalef
      atalef April 1 2013 12: 04 New
      0
      Quote: Spade
      On the other hand, it is an element of psychological warfare.

      I have no doubt, they still do not need this ass and nuclear weapons
    2. sergey261180
      sergey261180 April 1 2013 13: 18 New
      +6
      Well, for that matter, why not drop the casino and the bank. The enemy will lose all the loot first, then all his equipment, and at the end he will gain loans and mortgages and will give us to us for the rest of his life.
    3. atalef
      atalef April 1 2013 16: 09 New
      -1
      Quote: Spade
      On the other hand, it is an element of psychological warfare.

      Here's another priest to drop (if the plane picks up) and nuclear weapons are not necessary
      1. Lopatov
        Lopatov April 1 2013 22: 01 New
        0
        We had a priest. In our cadet battery. He ran with us, polished the parquet in the barracks on the PCB. Toilets were washed along with a platoon to which he was given. He slept in the barracks.
        The experiment, we cadets, recognized as successful. I didn’t get it at all. On the other hand, you could always talk to him. Not necessarily on religious topics.

        In general, dear, it’s not for you to joke with your army about this.
        1. mehanik27
          mehanik27 April 2 2013 00: 30 New
          +3
          But there was no father in my cadet battery, but we spent six months with the whole school starting from the department heads, ending with the last spirit in terms of providing the educational process, we spent money on building the church (which was built after my graduation and which looked like a bathhouse for an average-prosperous citizen). And also, during a couple of months, they uprooted trees, demolished the sports camp and prepared the foundation for the foundation. Can we assume that all of us, including Muslim Aidar and the Buddhist Chimit and others like them, made an invaluable contribution to the development of Orthodoxy in the Republic of Armenia?
          1. Lopatov
            Lopatov April 2 2013 00: 34 New
            0
            Sverdlovskoe, colleague? In our quarry temples above the roof was.
            1. mehanik27
              mehanik27 April 2 2013 00: 44 New
              0
              No, in another, also an old Russian city. For the sake of justice, we already had courses, not batteries, but began to study in another institution in the city on the Neva, where the graduation was divisional and battery. And it was not quite artillery)))
              1. Lopatov
                Lopatov April 2 2013 01: 03 New
                +2
                I just can scold Orthodox priests as much as I like. Himself plowed on them.
                But I will not, because I know those whom I respect very much. They are different. And for some Orthodox "priest" I, a Catholic, will tear anyone's mouth. Honestly, I don't throw such statements very often.
                1. mehanik27
                  mehanik27 April 2 2013 01: 09 New
                  +2
                  To communicate with God, I don’t need an intermediary. Therefore, ministers of worship besides, at least, laugh nothing at all. That doesn’t exclude exceptions, excuse me for the tautology, from the rules. There are wonderful people among them ... usually lovingly selfless people are silver-free, at their own expense raising temples in the outback, and so on. The bulk of the people on chic foreign cars in a drunken stupor arrange an accident, and then they tell that they got a devil.
                  1. Lopatov
                    Lopatov April 2 2013 01: 18 New
                    0
                    Well, everyone is different. You do not need, others, yes. Treat this fact normally, okay?

                    Can you and "you", do not mind?

                    Quote: mehanik27
                    .silverlessly generally self-loving people, raising temples at their own expense in the outback

                    Personally came with his hammer. Warned that Catholic. Waved a hand. So on the drum. I respect I’ll tear it apart.
                    1. mehanik27
                      mehanik27 April 2 2013 01: 28 New
                      +1
                      yes it’s possible for you too ..))) When I went to St. Petersburg for a summer for a little while, there was a seminary near the house ... I had seen enough of them. We don’t need worshipers in the army, we have a secular state. come. The rest of the time it’s superfluous. Moreover, 95 percent of the faith in the army is at least ostentatious, applies to all faiths. In the army, this is perceived as an opportunity to make life easier for oneself.
                      1. Lopatov
                        Lopatov April 2 2013 01: 43 New
                        +2
                        Just don’t row them all under one comb. Fathers, they are different.

                        As for the army, I prayed. no window dress, still a catholic. Especially in war. When the first threw. He can fly anywhere. Thank God, the Orthodox-Muslim environment did not know what coordinates I gave, and then prayed. You’ll throw mountains behind a ridge, you won’t find a gap.
                      2. mehanik27
                        mehanik27 April 2 2013 01: 48 New
                        0
                        You do not quite understand me correctly, it makes no difference to me who believes in what. This is the right of everyone to believe in what he wants. I’m just ministers of worship, well, of course, all this fuss with the introduction of mobile churches and Orthodoxy in the army. He believes that this is not necessary. Without that, he will carry his faith and find an opportunity to pray and fulfill his duty .. the rest is decayed.
                        And, by the way, about flying anywhere ... the will of God is that you studied well and correctly calculated everything, taking into account weather conditions, that you gave the exact coordinates to the mountain.
                  2. mehanik27
                    mehanik27 April 2 2013 01: 33 New
                    0
                    It’s interesting, why didn’t anyone care that the minister of worship sits in the model of an airplane on the airborne landing gear with a model of a parachute ????? But where are the jumps? Or hope for God, but don’t be foolish, let them say fools who believe in gravity are jumping? ???
                    1. Eugene
                      Eugene April 2 2013 22: 19 New
                      0
                      Normal approach. The same opinion. I looked at the icons of Nikolai the man in killer cars. They saved the soul in such a simple way. But I was distracted. Maybe the right thing, this extension, but for me, a normal, competent politician, also solved these issues.
    4. cosmos111
      cosmos111 April 1 2013 22: 30 New
      0
      Quote: atalef
      from yet

      Russians say ,,, a GOOD MAN SHOULD BE MUCH ..
      It’s you who are liquidy Ms. &&& dies and you look at what happened.
      I will answer you RAT with the words of the Russian Holy Land
      1. Lopatov
        Lopatov April 1 2013 22: 50 New
        0
        And how did the Jews prevent you?
  10. atalef
    atalef April 1 2013 16: 09 New
    -1
    Quote: Spade
    On the other hand, it is an element of psychological warfare.

    Here's another priest to drop (if the plane picks up) and nuclear weapons are not necessary
    1. vasvnik
      vasvnik April 1 2013 20: 30 New
      0
      Your view on the topic is far from reality: here is only personal bias. But funny!
    2. Svobodny
      Svobodny April 1 2013 20: 58 New
      +1
      Look do not burst yourself. Already 2 times painted ...
  11. Lopatov
    Lopatov April 1 2013 22: 59 New
    +1
    Dear moderators, you should not have deleted the post with an obese Orthodox father. This in no way belittles Orthodoxy.

    Consult with them, they never ran from criticism and do not run.
    1. Apollo
      Apollo April 1 2013 23: 06 New
      +1
      Quote: Spade
      Dear moderators, you should not have deleted the post with an obese Orthodox father. This in no way belittles Orthodoxy.

      Consult with them, they never ran from criticism and do not run.


      Dear Colleague
      I removed not one but several demotivators with comments, and issued comments to two forum visitors in order to prevent srach on the forum!
      Demotivators and comments in my folder, violations,
      The question is closed, I definitely.
      1. Lopatov
        Lopatov April 1 2013 23: 31 New
        +2
        In the question of religion, one cannot think in terms of "unambiguous".

        I am a Catholic, but I am ready to fight for the Orthodox right for my religion. As for the right of the Jews.
        It’s not srach, you want to shut it up, it won’t work. You understand, we’re not living in an airless one.

        Yes, this priest is sick, yes, some have decided that this is a wonderful argument against Orthodoxy. But you do not consider legless people who play sports as an argument against sports?

        So please do not get carried away by removal. This is simpler but counterproductive.

        Sincerely.
        1. Apollo
          Apollo April 1 2013 23: 36 New
          +1
          Quote: Spade
          In the question of religion, one cannot think in terms of "unambiguous".

          I am a Catholic, but I am ready to fight for the Orthodox right for my religion. As for the right of the Jews.
          It’s not srach, you want to shut it up, it won’t work. You understand, we’re not living in an airless one.

          Yes, this priest is sick, yes, some have decided that this is a wonderful argument against Orthodoxy. But you do not consider legless people who play sports as an argument against sports?

          So please do not get carried away by removal. This is simpler but counterproductive.


          Dear, you didn’t pay attention what reaction followed the demotivator, priests ?! The reaction followed immediately and with insults on ethnic grounds, for this reason I removed both demotivators. There is a site administration, it is notified by me, I consider further comments on the above topic unnecessary. If you have questions, write in PM.
          1. Lopatov
            Lopatov April 1 2013 23: 46 New
            +1
            Sorry to criticize your decisions.
            1. Apollo
              Apollo April 1 2013 23: 56 New
              0
              Quote: Spade
              Sorry to criticize your decisions.


              it's okay
      2. mehanik27
        mehanik27 April 2 2013 00: 45 New
        0
        That ministers of worship have the only true point of view, that the moderators of all sites ......
        1. Lopatov
          Lopatov April 2 2013 00: 51 New
          0
          You can swear with ministers of worship as much as you like. With us, only the Pope has the right to the only correct opinion. And that is not always the case.
          1. mehanik27
            mehanik27 April 2 2013 01: 02 New
            0
            So you, the Catholics .. we militant atheists and agnostics on the drum)))).
            I will never forget how, in my first year in a cadet on Sunday, everyone who was left in the barracks was brought to the reading room. And before the revolution there was a house church, by the way, almost everything was preserved in its original form, except for gold items ... and they were just handed over to the museum. And creative intellect gathered there together with the priests and performed the service for almost half a day .. And these half a day we had to, the word, how idiots stand at attention with a candle in hand and listen to the howling of the priest. aunts imposingly sitting on armchairs in front of us (it seems like there was a fat woman whose son Gog was the ancestor of the Romanovs and claims to the Russian throne), they say what kind of cadets are angels, how do they believe in God’s gentlemen .. And it was a shame that we were not allowed to sleep Sunday and devour in the dining room for two or three. And it was still scary that the platoon commander would see that we were not standing well (the first year is still afraid of everything)
            1. Lopatov
              Lopatov April 2 2013 01: 54 New
              +1
              What can I say ... popalovo, it happens. Sleep on Sunday is holy, like soldering for the dismissed. I basically only went on Saturday to sleep off on Sunday after a sports holiday. He was a sergeant, sat in front, especially in class not to sleep.

              Suffered for faith ... smile
            2. Eugene
              Eugene April 2 2013 22: 22 New
              +1
              The more I learn priests, the more I like the secretaries of the CPSU regional committees ...
    2. mehanik27
      mehanik27 April 2 2013 00: 41 New
      +1
      Yes, yes ... it is worth consulting with them ... In my first part there was a remnant of a totalitarian state - its own livestock complex, which remained from the times of the USSR, created by generations of dumpers and where everything was from carpentry and locksmith workshops, ending with stables and In the winter, the soldiers of the regiment, regardless of religion, gladly ate salts from their pigsty and ate fresh herbs, and the officers' families grunted pickles. In the summer, you could fish or swim in the pond ... and so the young lieuchs were put there on duty, well until they fledged and began to lead women of easy virtue to the regimental sauna. So in the regimental sauna, divisional and army bosses regularly guided, often their guests were priests of far from the last rank. It was very interesting sometimes to consult with a drunken priest, which in one underwear, but with a massive "gymnast" on their chest they tried to attract Muslims to Orthodoxy or, on the contrary, meticulously bargained with "ma mkoy "that brought them girls for carnal pleasures. It was very informative
  • zveroboy666
    zveroboy666 April 1 2013 10: 47 New
    0
    Orthodox atomic church.
  • Isk1984
    Isk1984 April 1 2013 10: 54 New
    +4
    So I think that Margelov Vasily Filippovich said all this? Something seems to me his words were, as always, harsh, but honest and fair ....
    "These guys in blue berets cannot be broken, morally and physically frightened. Even though I am 68, I will go anywhere with them. We will cut out half of Romania overnight, capture Europe in a week. It’s a pity that they have been serving them for only 2 years, otherwise I would make real thugs out of them. "
    1. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich April 1 2013 12: 03 New
      +1
      I think that Vasily Filippovich would have ordered the priest to put on a uniform ... and in order !!!))))))))))
    2. Siberiak
      Siberiak April 1 2013 22: 13 New
      0
      ..if the temple is dragged along, then they will not reach Romania ...
  • vkz
    vkz April 1 2013 11: 10 New
    +4
    Damn it, it rises before our eyes: some sort of mess begins (like 08.08.08) and our brave airborne troops are being dropped. Only instead of BMD and other equipment - an Orthodox church, a mosque, a synagogue and a Buddhist datsan. Well, and a couple of shamans in addition. Enemy, tremble !!!
    But seriously, my condolences to the normal paratroopers, whom our high leadership is trying to turn into another "amusing army".
    1. klimpopov
      klimpopov April 1 2013 11: 27 New
      +5
      In war, all means are good ... And you can drop a temple on the head of the enemy. It is a sin to say so, but nothing worthwhile in the head in connection with this "news" is born ((((
      In general, who is in the know about the performance characteristics of the temple? wassat
      The number of baptized per minute? I’m Orthodox myself, but why bring everything to the point of absurdity?
      1. baltika-18
        baltika-18 April 1 2013 13: 14 New
        +5
        Quote: klimpopov
        In general, who is in the know about the performance characteristics of the temple?
        The number of baptized per minute?

        Why only baptized?
        Probably still married, communed, inveterate, confessed.
        And you know, frankly, it’s not funny if, even in a case like religion, we get to a situation close to insanity, what can we say about everything else.
        1. klimpopov
          klimpopov April 1 2013 13: 45 New
          +1
          Here I am about the same ....
      2. mehanik27
        mehanik27 April 2 2013 00: 47 New
        +1
        My grandfather to baptized and believers went through the Second World War, and with a visit to such a significant place as the Nevsky Piglet. Somehow, he fought quite normally and successfully even without a mobile church.
        1. Lopatov
          Lopatov April 2 2013 00: 57 New
          0
          I agree. But maybe it would be better with the Temple?
          1. mehanik27
            mehanik27 April 2 2013 01: 11 New
            0
            My grandfather then had enough of a cross and a political officer)))))
  • itkul
    itkul April 1 2013 11: 24 New
    0
    Some priests in the photo are skinny, are there really such ones. And then everything had to be seen as somehow voluminous
    1. antiaircrafter
      antiaircrafter April 1 2013 12: 56 New
      0
      Quote: itkul
      priests in the photo are skinny

      Seen specially picked up. Voluminous parachute will not fit.
      1. Normal
        Normal April 1 2013 15: 39 New
        +2
        Quote: itkul
        Some priests in the photo are skinny, are there really such

        Quote: antiaircrafter
        Seen specially picked up. Voluminous parachute will not fit.

        It's not about volume, but about weight. If memory serves, then the maximum total weight (mass of the paratrooper, weapons, equipment and the parachute itself) when landing with a D-5 parachute is 120-kg. Now more modern domes, but I think that there are restrictions on the mass of the airborne
  • Alex45
    Alex45 April 1 2013 11: 25 New
    +6
    ... "and Colonel Alexander Kurchenko said that the need for priests in the army has only grown over the years. According to him, according to statistics, the number of believers among the recruits reaches 90%."

    Something I do not really trust the numbers given by this officer. No offense to believers. But it looks like a paid PR action.
    1. Siberiak
      Siberiak April 1 2013 22: 16 New
      0
      Even the representatives of the Russian Orthodox Church are much more modest in their calculations - from 2 to 40% ...
    2. Kahlan amnell
      Kahlan amnell April 2 2013 11: 32 New
      0
      Or zero attributed. wink
  • Andreitas
    Andreitas April 1 2013 11: 53 New
    +3
    Some kind of circus. The temple should stand on the ground, and not fly by parachute.
  • urich
    urich April 1 2013 11: 54 New
    +3
    I thought, I’ll write that I don’t need a landing church, they will zamusnuyu to corporal ... But I’m used to it, not for the pros and cons I express my opinion here, but as needed. But no. The people agree that only weapons and military special equipment should be landed. Why not create a landing mosque? That there are no Muslims in the airborne forces? And then everything will be in order from the church to the synagogue ...
  • vladsolo56
    vladsolo56 April 1 2013 11: 54 New
    +4
    I’m a bastard, the paratroopers landed behind enemy lines and the first thing to pray right away is that there’s nothing for anyone to do. A true paratrooper should have only one god - this is his commander, whom he trusts the most precious, his life. If a soldier thinks about God in battle, how will he fight?
  • Drosselmeyer
    Drosselmeyer April 1 2013 12: 02 New
    +3
    Circus on the slings. Now you urgently need to invent a mine-based temple.
  • atalef
    atalef April 1 2013 12: 07 New
    +3
    It is worth noting that this landing was carried out for the first time, Needless to say, the Russian military is still ready to surprise the public. Simultaneously with the temple, the military priests of the Airborne Forces landed, who landed after the parachute platform with cargo from the collapsible structures of the mobile temple, in order to begin assembling it directly at the landing site.

    The only true phrase in the whole article.
    They won’t be surprised either. At first they surprised with kickbacks, then with cuts, how much money drove into this?
    1. itkul
      itkul April 1 2013 12: 36 New
      +3
      Quote: atalef
      They won’t be surprised either. At first they surprised with kickbacks, then with cuts, how much money drove into this?


      Yes, no, rather, everything is here according to the proverb, "Make a fool pray to God, so he will break his forehead"
  • FunkschNNX
    FunkschNNX April 1 2013 12: 25 New
    +4
    Now we have our own tabernacle.
    Our military and officials, as always, surprise us not only with their skills but also with the degree of insanity. And in a specific case, it turned out to be an explosive mixture - "military officials", then beware of NATO, they will find such an asymmetric answer to any of your military cunning that they themselves ...
  • aviamed90
    aviamed90 April 1 2013 13: 12 New
    0
    Ha ha! But closer to God!
    The rest is meaningless to comment.
  • krokodil25
    krokodil25 April 1 2013 13: 14 New
    -8
    Dear Russian warriors! All of us took the oath of allegiance to our Fatherland and our people. But the Russian people are Orthodox, which means that we swore allegiance to Orthodoxy. But the people and the army are one. And if so, then you, Russian soldiers, must turn to the faith of our fathers - to Orthodoxy.
    1. broker
      broker April 1 2013 13: 49 New
      -8
      What is true is true !!! From time immemorial, Russia has held onto Orthodoxy, and will continue to hold on to that !!! Who against bring down mother Rus with deliverance soon !!!
      1. urich
        urich April 1 2013 14: 07 New
        +7
        No need to incite religious conflict.
        Firstly, the article is not about that. And in the posts they discuss whether this is necessary or not.
        Secondly, throughout all centuries, throughout our history, we have fought for our country, fought, etc. not only Orthodox.
        Thirdly, our state is secular! And this is the only right way in the world today, in the presence of various religions. As soon as we begin to give preference to one religion, the end will come. And Mother Russia will end on this!
        1. krokodil25
          krokodil25 April 1 2013 14: 17 New
          +1
          Quote: urich
          No need to incite religious conflict.


          What does the incitement to incite religious conflicts?


          On the morning of September 8, a thick, impenetrable fog stood over Kulikovo Field, which had cleared only at twelfth. The battle began with a duel of heroes. On the Russian side, Alexander Peresvet, a monk of the Trinity-Sergius Monastery, was put up for a duel, before the tonsure - a Bryansk boyar. His opponent was the Tatar hero Temir-Murza (Chelubey). Warriors simultaneously thrust spears into each other: this portended a great bloodshed and a long battle.
          1. urich
            urich April 1 2013 16: 01 New
            +2
            Gennady (crocodile25) You, as I understand it, are a believer. I do not want to offend your feelings in any way. But one gets the impression that all those who post for Orthodoxy were completely trampled on their brains! At least read my messages carefully! Nowhere do I speak out against Orthodoxy, as indeed any other faith. But read the posts of the "Orthodox". Copy from broker Who against bring down mother Rus with deliverance soon !!! This is normal? This is what kindles religious conflicts! Tell me how these "Orthodox" differ from, for example, Muslim fanatics?
            1. krokodil25
              krokodil25 April 1 2013 16: 30 New
              +1
              Quote: urich
              Read at least my posts carefully


              Thank you Sergey, that you understood me, all who set the minus did not understand, I thought I probably thought that I was Natsik. I just wanted to pay attention to our roots. Look at the comments below. but about the comment Who against mother bring down from Russia soon deliverance, I am against !!! See my comments and you especially in the article | To avoid a catastrophe, the government must hand over the government to the nationalists.
      2. Hon
        Hon April 1 2013 17: 13 New
        0
        Quote: broker
        What is true is true !!! From time immemorial, Russia has held onto Orthodoxy, and will continue to hold on to that !!! Who against bring down mother Rus with deliverance soon !!!

        According to the All-Russian survey conducted by VTsIOM in March 2010, 75% of Russians consider themselves Orthodox Christians, while only 54% of them are familiar with the content of the Bible.
        The call to bring down from Russia all those who are not Orthodox, automatically become a call to reduce the population of Russia by 25%. This despite the fact that having the largest territory, Russia is only in 9th place in the world in terms of population. Such calls are clearly delighted by the Chinese, who are closely ...
      3. Rusich
        Rusich April 1 2013 19: 28 New
        +4
        Maybe they will reach later later !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HELP THE LORD MISTERED TO GET FAITH !! AMEN (TRUE)
      4. Rusich
        Rusich April 1 2013 19: 31 New
        +3
        here's another ..............
        1. Alexey K.
          Alexey K. April 1 2013 21: 43 New
          +1
          After these videos, only the insane will deny the significance of faith for our warriors.
      5. bask
        bask April 1 2013 19: 41 New
        +8
        Quote: krokodil25
        t, we swore to his faith - Orthodoxy. But the people and the army are one.

        Quote: broker
        What is true is true !!! From time immemorial, Russia has held onto Orthodoxy, and will continue to hold on to that !!! Who against mother bring down from Russia

        DON'T UNDERSTAND THE MEN. YOU THAT THE RUSSIAN ORTHODOX PEOPLE --- CUT,
        And to Zionists and Satanists +++
        WE THAT WANT THAT WE HAVE ALL UNCLEANNESS HAD
        WITHOUT ORTHODOXY OF RUSSIA THE END
        Will eat and cut us hobbits
        ENOUGH TO COUNTER OUR SANCTUES !!!!
        THERE ARE NO UNBELIEVERS IN THE WAR !!!!! THE RUSSIAN ORTHODOX IS NEEDED
        TEMPLE IN THE Airborne Forces, OTHERWISE WILL DEPART, synagogues and ....


        1. Rusich
          Rusich April 1 2013 20: 20 New
          +2
          I just stumbled upon D / f FOR OTHER OTHERS !!! JOIN
    2. Alexey K.
      Alexey K. April 1 2013 13: 57 New
      +5
      The faith of our fathers.
      1. Rusich
        Rusich April 1 2013 19: 35 New
        +1
        I ask for your attention !!!!!
    3. Alex45
      Alex45 April 1 2013 14: 15 New
      0
      Note that in the expression "For Faith, Tsar and Fatherland" there is no specific mention of any confession. What now, what before we were a multi-confessional country and even atheism is to some extent a belief. And it is not right either to vigorously destroy religion and its attributes as in Soviet times, or to propagandize and entice your faith at every corner. I am for the fact that a person can proudly say that he is a follower of any religion, but should not furiously urge others to follow his chosen path. It shouldn't look like an advertisement for some chocolate bar where the emphasis is on the fact that the factory has been producing it with a century of experience, or bright packaging and a size, weight greater than that of competitors.
    4. Rusich
      Rusich April 1 2013 19: 24 New
      0
      NO WAR OF ATHEISTS !!!
      PROVEN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


      APOSTASIA !!!!!!!!! It's a pity ...........
    5. Siberiak
      Siberiak April 1 2013 22: 26 New
      0
      ..but in this case it must be borne in mind that Orthodoxy initially had nothing to do with Christianity! Learn materiel .. i.e. story ..
    6. Stalinets
      Stalinets April 2 2013 05: 00 New
      +2
      !!!!! Orthodoxy in Russia, only since 988.
  • egorka_g
    egorka_g April 1 2013 13: 45 New
    +2
    That's right, if the church had not been persecuted in the USSR, or the Russian Empire had been, then such churches have already appeared.
  • Alexey K.
    Alexey K. April 1 2013 13: 49 New
    +9
    Good health to all.
    My dear experts on the need for what is needed and not needed by the landing troops. I hope that adults write comments and have seen something in life - otherwise you just have to be ashamed to write all sorts of nonsense and even with ironic and sarcastic remarks - showing your complete incompetence in this matter.
    For starters, for the ignorant, I want to remind you that we are talking about airborne troops - therefore, all they use: equipment, equipment, and even temples must meet the requirements for suitability for landing.
    Someone should serve in the temples - accordingly, priests should be able to land.
    And the paratroopers themselves need to be asked about the need for such temples and churches in general in the troops. Or type in a search engine "regimental churches and churches in Russia" and looking at the history of our country to understand that "there is no way without God" and in addition to modern weapons, military training, in order to defeat the enemy in battle, one must also have strength of mind - which gives a warrior Vera.

    Field Marshal Alexander Vasilievich Suvorov
    Count of Rymnik, Prince of Italy
    (1730-1800)

    WILL

    Miracle heroes, peace, support, glory of the Fatherland - God is with us. Pray to God, victory is from Him. Blessed Virgin Mary, save us. Saint Nicholas, pray to God for us. Without this prayer, do not bare your weapons, do not load your guns, do not start anything. To begin every business with the blessing of God. Before dying, be faithful to the Sovereign and the Fatherland. Avoid luxury, idleness and greed, seek glory through truth and virtue. Strengthen the spirit in the faith of the fatherly, Orthodox. Teach an unbelievable army - what to grind burnt iron. That a tree has no root is respect to the power of the earth without reverence to the power of God. Give honor to heaven, and then to the earth. Love true glory. Distinguish noble ambition from arrogance and pride. Learn to forgive others in advance, but never forgive yourself. Beat yourself - you will be invincible. Never despise the enemy, whatever he may be. Military virtues are courage for a soldier, fearlessness for an officer, courage for a commander. All of them should be governed by order, discipline, vigilance, insight. See in part - a family, in the boss - father, in comrades - brothers. The foot strengthens the leg, the hand strengthens the hand. A soldier in peacetime in a war. Look at the whole thing. True look military.

    Two martial arts: the first is the eye, the second is speed. Be able to use the terrain. Fight off raids, as usual - offensively. Whoever is scared is half beaten. They fight not by numbers, but by skill. Take care of the bullet for three days, and sometimes for the whole campaign. Shoot rarely, but accurately. The bullet is a fool, and the bayonet is well done. The enemy has the same hands, but does not know the Russian bayonet. A wide step leads to victory. Work fast, soon, in Russian. Bayonets, speed, surprise. The enemy does not care about us: attack with what God sent. Cavalry - start, chop, if, drive, cut, do not miss. Hurray, miracles do, brothers. Stop using commands - this is not in training, but in battle. Attack - cut, count, cheers, drum, music. Chase day and night until it is destroyed (the enemy). The unfinished forest grows again. Cossacks crawl everywhere, their speed will complete the victory. The enemy surrendered - mercy. Being captive to mercy is not a robber soldier. It is a sin to kill in vain - they are just the same people. To hit the enemy with humanity. God leads us. He is our general. Here are the brothers - military training. Gentlemen officers, what a delight.

    Hello, brothers, wonderful heroes!

    My dear friends, old comrades, hello! God have mercy, we are Russians!

    We will restore faith in God the Merciful. Cleanse lawlessness. Everywhere is the front.

    Alignment on the front. Keep up with the bosses. The enemy is trembling from you. You are Russian!

    Voyazytsekh - to Russian weapons - eternal glory! Glory. Glory. Glory.
    1. baltika-18
      baltika-18 April 1 2013 15: 41 New
      +4
      Quote: Alexey K.
      - otherwise you just have to be ashamed to write all sorts of rubbish and even with ironic and caustic

      Alexei, you probably didn’t understand the commentators.
      They discuss a flying and landing temple, and do not argue about the benefits and harms of religions.
      Quote: Alexey K.
      we are talking about landing troops - that's why all they use: equipment, equipment and even temples must meet the requirements of suitability for landing.

      In combat conditions, to drop several tons of KAMAZ to the enemy rear, which will hold down the unit?
      And if they are not going to use it in combat conditions, then why drop it now?
      Window dressing and a condition close to insanity.
    2. Svobodny
      Svobodny April 1 2013 15: 57 New
      -3
      Alexey K., Thank you very much for reminding us of the words of the will of the great Suvorov:
      Pray to God, victory is from Him.

      We will restore faith in God the Merciful. Cleanse lawlessness. Everywhere is the front.

      The good news is that Russia is gradually returning to Christ, despite the devilish machinations.
    3. Normal
      Normal April 1 2013 16: 09 New
      +5
      Quote: Alexey K.
      Field Marshal Alexander Vasilievich Suvorov

      Well, where is Suvorov's indication that you need to drag the temple of God with you on a campaign or in an attack? But these words of Suvorov are well-known: "Do not drag the wagons with you. Your provisions are in the enemy's backpacks and wagons."
      Do not bring religion to the point of absurdity. The paratrooper does not need a landing temple, but military equipment, ammunition, communications, equipment, food and medicine. And he will certainly descend into the Temple of God ... when he returns to the base alive.
  • Hort
    Hort April 1 2013 13: 50 New
    +7
    in my humble opinion, it would be better to develop a mobile hospital / hospital.
    1. Normal
      Normal April 1 2013 16: 25 New
      +3
      Quote: hort
      in my humble opinion, it would be better to develop a mobile hospital / hospital.

      This is, or rather, when I served. The traffic police had its own medical battalion officers (doctors), personnel, equipment and property of which landed along with military units. Now, after Serdyukov’s (and not only) reforms, I don’t know the situation.
      The landing of a mobile temple is just another window dressing designed to "surprise" It has nothing to do with the combat training and combat effectiveness of the Airborne Forces.
      It is precisely because of the love for the show of the RVVDKU in the Soviet era that the troops were called the "ballet-pistol" school
  • dema46
    dema46 April 1 2013 14: 19 New
    +2
    Quote: krokodil25
    Dear Russian warriors! All of us took the oath of allegiance to our Fatherland and our people. But the Russian people are Orthodox, which means that we swore allegiance to Orthodoxy. But the people and the army are one. And if so, then you, Russian soldiers, must turn to the faith of our fathers - to Orthodoxy.
  • dema46
    dema46 April 1 2013 14: 29 New
    +5
    dear crocodile! besides the Russians there are still many who serve. There are Jews, there are Muslims and not only. There is no need to introduce another division this time according to the priests. The creation of a military team and the spirit of submission to command is a very complicated thing and it all lies on the shoulders of the commanders. pop or mullah are not spelled out in the charter. no one should influence a person with weapons other than his commanders and professional psychologists, educators, who again have a military education. yes, and why should he pop a smoke curtain with his nurse in battle? Throw projectiles? I will set a combatant a combat mission, but he can’t give me such commandments? Sakharov will suffice in due time! and so the army was almost ruined. he’s a funny man of shamans! he reaches out to God, then he covers up bandits like his son-in-law (link-compromat.ru).
    1. krokodil25
      krokodil25 April 1 2013 14: 42 New
      +1
      Quote: dema46
      Okromya Russian there are still many who serve. There are Jews


      You specifically want to accuse me of something?
  • I think so
    I think so April 1 2013 14: 57 New
    +3
    to be honest, I am shocked ... there was no such obscurantism even in the Soviet years ... well, there were "Lenkomnats" and other "agit corners", but so that a whole temple (club) could be thrown from a parachute ... yes-ah insanity grows stronger not by the years, but by the day ...
  • Black
    Black April 1 2013 15: 01 New
    +3
    Surprised by the discussion.
    The Russian army held and will continue to hold on to the Russian soldier. And without our Orthodox faith - how much will we cost? Without an idea, without a spirit, without faith, how will we differ from others?
    This is normal, right.
    According to Ukrainian media, on the night of November 9, 2012, a group of men with stockings on their heads entered the Church of St. Nicholas in the village of Barvinkove, Verkhovynsk district, Ivano-Frankivsk region. The intruders, who turned out to be a local musical group Dick Revolt and planned to perform the song "Mother of God, Drive Yanukovych away!" In the church, were detained and handed over to the police by the village priest Father Vasily.
    And even the trooper being dropped by air and CODES ON a DEPRICATED head is nastuchit, it will not seem enough!
  • kamakim
    kamakim April 1 2013 15: 20 New
    +5
    hmm ... it's already too ... make a fool pray to god- he’ll break his head request
  • Vrungel78
    Vrungel78 April 1 2013 16: 07 New
    +2
    Quote: baltika-18
    In addition to the desire of any high ranks to be in the "stream" and the desire to surprise, nothing is visible.

    It may be so, but there is benefit from it. I don’t believe in God myself, but I think that there should be a “outlet” for believers in the form of a temple (I hope I did not offend believers with my comparison). Another popular option is to get drunk (in the sense of drinking). What's better?
  • rubber_duck
    rubber_duck April 1 2013 16: 17 New
    +4
    X ... suffer from it. This is not about Orthodoxy, but about airmobile churches, etc. Mosque parachute landing. Field Synagogue quick deployment. Trailed artillery datsan ... Well, why is it a good thing to bring something to the point of absurdity? Yes, and take these military field priests. Well, what is his status? How does he fit into subordination? The Zampolitans were cheated and dispersed, so they were at least officers, and their orders were binding. What about pop? He orders, for example, has the right to give? And if he has, then only Orthodox? And the rest, from Muslims to atheists, can send him away? ..

    And the most interesting questions. Here are the paratroopers in 5-6 minutes. collect the discarded temple. Is he being thrown out along with the first wave of the landing? That is, the van takes up space on the plane, and the fighters who are assigned to it do not go into battle, but take out unbreakable church utensils from the foam rubber? Does this mean there will be a "temple airborne calculation" in the staffing table? That is, one BMD-shka and an airborne squad will not go into battle? On the For what?!!
    1. baltika-18
      baltika-18 April 1 2013 16: 34 New
      +1
      Quote: rubber_duck
      Is he thrown out along with the first wave of landing?

      The target is good, very noticeable.
      So instead of completing a combat mission, the temple will have to be defended. request
      1. krokodil25
        krokodil25 April 1 2013 16: 59 New
        +1
        Do you really think they will be used in wartime?
        1. Hon
          Hon April 1 2013 17: 31 New
          +2
          And if not in wartime, on which X ... do I need a landing church ?! On the territory of the part of the temple to build is not fate?
        2. baltika-18
          baltika-18 April 1 2013 17: 32 New
          +1
          Quote: krokodil25
          Do you really think they will be used in wartime?

          Then try to explain the purpose of the current landing.
          Personally, I associate this action with painting lawn grass or something like that.
          1. krokodil25
            krokodil25 April 1 2013 18: 12 New
            -1
            Quote: baltika-18
            Then try to explain the purpose of the current landing.


            Inspire the current generation and beyond.

            And the Church of Christ, with dignity appropriate for its shrine, fulfilled the difficult task entrusted to it by Providence: under its leadership, the Russian people began to grow, strengthen in physical and spiritual strength, establish themselves in political wisdom and power, and from the very first days it became obvious that the grace of God rested upon him.
            1. baltika-18
              baltika-18 April 1 2013 18: 57 New
              +3
              Quote: krokodil25
              Then try to explain the purpose of the current landing.

              Quote: krokodil25
              And the Church of Christ, with dignity appropriate for its shrine, fulfilled the difficult task entrusted to it by Providence: under its leadership, the Russian people began to grow, strengthen in physical and spiritual strength, establish themselves in political wisdom and power, and from the very first days it became obvious that the grace of God rested upon him.

              I did not expect anything else from you.
              When there is nothing to answer always resort to vague definitions and references to God's grace.
              Sorry, I consider the conversation to be unprecedented. hi
              1. krokodil25
                krokodil25 April 1 2013 19: 03 New
                -1
                Quote: baltika-18
                Sorry, I consider the conversation to be unprecedented.



                I didn’t turn to you. As Fedor Emelianenko says, to all God's will !!!
                1. Normal
                  Normal April 1 2013 23: 15 New
                  +1
                  Quote: krokodil25
                  As Fedor Emelianenko says, to all God's will !!!

                  In-in! As soon as Fedor hit religion, the defeats did not take long to wait.
            2. Stalinets
              Stalinets April 2 2013 04: 54 New
              0
              Already sick. Swaddle nonsense. You are not in the church. fool
          2. Was mammoth
            Was mammoth April 1 2013 21: 40 New
            0
            Well, even in a combat situation, a large cross instead of a Kalash in attack. And if a Muslim is a crescent (or a rug? wink) Naturally, then, only an atheist’s weapon in his hands? The same as it seemed about the lawns. To faith, in my opinion this has nothing to do.
      2. rubber_duck
        rubber_duck April 1 2013 23: 57 New
        0
        The comment was deleted.

        Quote: baltika-18
        Quote: rubber_duck
        Is he thrown out along with the first wave of landing?


        Was my comment removed? Fun. There were no "incitements" there. Who didn't please? Well, goodbye Topwar. negative
  • Prapor Afonya
    Prapor Afonya April 1 2013 16: 33 New
    +9
    In my opinion, the temple should be in the soul and each person prays to his god, if you want to pray before or after the battle, please there is an icon or chapel in the LDPE or PDP, pray there and confess, and the temple has nothing to do on the battlefield and the whole story , the soldiers there are not up to it. But the aerosuncture, and even with surgery, on the battlefield would be useful, on the battlefield, carnal wounds should be healed in the shortest possible time, not mental!
  • amp
    amp April 1 2013 16: 59 New
    +2
    All this is just window dressing.
  • GG2012
    GG2012 April 1 2013 17: 00 New
    +3
    Orthodox priests have a wild craving for movability and real estate.
    In my opinion, this is a vivid example of developing insanity.
    Then, additional planes will be allocated for these air temples, a security department, a warehouse for the storage of religious piers, ...

    What prevents Orthodox believers from keeping their paper / cardboard icon in their breast pocket "numbers", and if necessary, retire for a couple of minutes and read a prayer for themselves?

    So no. Necessarily a temple, grandmothers of chorus girls, serving boys, strategic stocks of candles of all calibres, etc.

    Once again, power turns an idea into an absurdity.

    The next step will be the landing of an airmobile temple with a capacity of 100 people. The priests will explain this by necessity (it will strengthen the Military Spirit), and IL-76 or An-22 will be required for dropping the air temple.
    Everyone will say: Damn! What kind of insanity ?!
    But the priests will be happy ...
    1. GG2012
      GG2012 April 1 2013 17: 06 New
      +4
      Complement ...
      And again, since everything was borrowed from the Jews in Christianity, why not rip off their mobility? What for? or do we have pop without a temple not pop?
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      1. Svobodny
        Svobodny April 1 2013 18: 49 New
        0
        why not rip off their mobility

        One of the most combat-ready and strongest armies in the world. They honor their faith. You can even envy! Well done!
        1. Stalinets
          Stalinets April 2 2013 04: 50 New
          0
          And why do the Slavs honor their faith? Or are the first five books of the Bible not the Torah? All NATO is working on the "combat capability of one of the most powerful armies in the world." Do not powder our brains. stop
  • Nicotine 7
    Nicotine 7 April 1 2013 17: 17 New
    0
    How much verbiage can be done: Orthodoxy and the Orthodox Christian Religion are not at all the same. You can’t get far in falsehood!
  • Azaat
    Azaat April 1 2013 18: 05 New
    +2
    The idea of ​​Orthodoxy is not really so rejected by the paratroopers, but I do not think that after the latest events what other religion will be there. And as for the mobile church, I’ll say that, neither to the detriment of the service, then to the detriment of the enemy.
  • anomalocaris
    anomalocaris April 1 2013 18: 22 New
    +1
    Insanity grew stronger, the trees bent ...
  • Avenger711
    Avenger711 April 1 2013 19: 07 New
    0
    One word, "ugh!"
  • georg737577
    georg737577 April 1 2013 20: 27 New
    +1
    I'm in shock ... There must be a measure of idiocy. In the USSR it was correctly and clearly declared - the church is separated from the state. Soon there will be more mobile brothels - whatever the choice of the paratrooper, otherwise the temple and everything will be politically incorrect ...
  • Octavian avgust
    Octavian avgust April 1 2013 20: 57 New
    +2
    Che for insanity!?! It would be better if the equipment was updated, but they will have time to pray in the house or in the temple! There is no god in the temple - he is everywhere, he will hear the soldier if he wants to!
  • Nicotine 7
    Nicotine 7 April 1 2013 22: 25 New
    0
    The word “Orthodoxy” was appropriated by the Orthodox Christian Church, with the help of Nikon’s reform in the 17th century from R.H. This is precisely why there was a split in the church: those who accepted the new reform became known as Orthodox Christians, and those who refused , the people called the Old Believers, began to destroy (burned in churches). Here they fled wherever they could: to Siberia, and to China, and even to America. I don’t understand how it is possible to powder people’s brains in our time. It's always a lie will be a lie.
    1. Genera
      Genera April 2 2013 07: 11 New
      0
      "They began to destroy (burned in churches)" - Well, you really don't Rus. I myself understood what I wrote "BURNED IN CHURCHES" I have never heard more nonsense. I don’t understand how it is still possible to powder the brains of people in our time, because a lie will always be a lie.
  • Thunderbolt
    Thunderbolt April 1 2013 23: 13 New
    +1
    Quote from World War II: “There are no atheists in the fox hole.”
  • mehanik27
    mehanik27 April 2 2013 01: 33 New
    0
    It’s interesting, why didn’t anyone care that the minister of worship sits in the model of an airplane on the airborne landing gear with a model of a parachute ????? But where are the jumps? Or hope for God, but don’t be foolish, let them say fools who believe in gravity are jumping? ???
  • Stalinets
    Stalinets April 2 2013 04: 47 New
    0
    The idiocy of the highest standard. The church is separated from the state, why the hell are the bumblebees climbing into the souls of soldiers? Really teach soldiers how to cheek .... fool am
  • Stalinets
    Stalinets April 2 2013 04: 52 New
    +4
    The idiocy of the highest standard. They are probably teaching the Russian paratrooper how to cheek properly. Climb into the soul of a soldier ..... Is the church not separated from the state? am
  • Ramses_IV
    Ramses_IV April 2 2013 05: 56 New
    +3
    In my opinion, there is a clear lobby of the Russian Orthodox Church. I understand there, for the unit in his MPD to have a chapel and a priest if you want, but ... In the case of a throw, score part of the board THERE THAN instead of the BC required in battle, add. units or units of military equipment ... I have nothing against Orthodoxy as such, but I'm sorry, this is insanity.
  • Genera
    Genera April 2 2013 06: 49 New
    0
    They’ve gotten sick, the temple will not send the front line to break through, you are like children. Let it be.
  • Kahlan amnell
    Kahlan amnell April 2 2013 07: 48 New
    +2
    Constitution of the Russian Federation
    Section I
    Chapter 1 Bases of the constitutional order
    Article 14
    1. Russian Federation - secular state. No religion can be established as state or mandatory.
    2. Religious associations are separated from the state and are equal before the law.
    1. Stalinets
      Stalinets April 3 2013 03: 25 New
      0
      Then the breezes, they started some kind of business again. They don’t pay taxes ... Religion, in general, is a very personal matter. In general, the priests will be good scouts against the Russian army. But what, cowardly soldiers will confess .... laughing yes
  • Genera
    Genera April 2 2013 08: 13 New
    +1
    Quote: Kahlan Amnell
    Constitution of the Russian Federation
    Section I
    Chapter 1 Bases of the constitutional order
    Article 14
    1. Russian Federation - secular state. No religion can be established as state or mandatory.
    2. Religious associations are separated from the state and are equal before the law.


    Well ........ what is it for?