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Gazprom will provide guidance for Russian strategic missiles from nuclear submarines

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The Russian Navy has adopted a new automated control system for strategic nuclear forces, which allows real-time retargeting of the P-30 “Bulava-30” intercontinental ballistic missiles. According to the Izvestia newspaper, the Yamal satellites are used to transmit the coordinates for the rockets; their work is provided by the company Gazprom ─ space systems, a subsidiary of the gas monopoly Gazprom.


According to a newspaper source in the Russian Navy, the new system so far works only on the strategic nuclear submarine Yury Dolgoruky of the Borey project 955 and only with the Bulava missiles. In the future, all the submarines of the Borey project with such missiles entering the fleet will be connected to the new control system. The latter can re-target ballistic missiles even in flight and launch them from submarines without the participation of the crew.

As expected, over time, it is planned to combine the control system with the strategic submarines of the Delphin 667BDRM project with the Sinev ballistic missiles. Currently, the coordinates of targets for such missiles are set by the crew manually. To launch missiles, the submarine must reach the periscope depth and release the antennas, after which the General Staff unlocks the launch system. Then, the senior combat assistant and the special department officer of the FSB introduce special codes into the control system, and the combat compartment calculation ─ new coordinates.

The new system simplifies this process. With her, the submarine needs to go to the periscope depth and release the antennas; all other procedures will be done through an automated control system. In the future, the Russian Navy plans to switch the communication channel of the new control system to a modernized unified satellite communications system, which allows you to transmit information in digital format.

The first Yamal satellite was launched into geostationary orbit in 1999. In total, the military ordered seven such devices, but only five of them were commissioned. Currently three satellites are operating; one Yamal was already decommissioned, and the second one stopped working as a result of the accident. Despite the fact that geostationary satellites are not able to provide reliable communications pole, they are able to transmit information in areas where combat duty is the strategic forces of the Navy, - reports lenta.ru.
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  1. Wedmak
    Wedmak 30 March 2013 07: 33 New
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    With two officers on board, it seems somehow more reliable. But I think that not everyone said about the "new" system ... If this is true at all.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 30 March 2013 07: 42 New
      +2
      Quote: Wedmak

      With two officers on board, it seems somehow more reliable.

      And how many people do you think should know the access codes for launching missiles?
      1. Wedmak
        Wedmak 30 March 2013 07: 47 New
        +1
        Like two or three, maybe now something has changed. But I'm talking about what the article says.
        The new system simplifies this process. With it, the submarine must go to the periscope depth and release the antenna; all other procedures will be done already through an automated control system.
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 30 March 2013 08: 01 New
          +3
          Quote: Wedmak
          . But I'm talking about what the article says.

          As it actually is, they will not write in the article, common phrases and no more. They are all so classified that we will find out in 50 years. If we survive, of course hi
          1. VAF
            VAF 30 March 2013 14: 42 New
            +4
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            As it actually is, they will not write in the article,


            That's right, Sasha, .. this is the Merizhat system since 2009 and that’s all ... nothing .... and for some reason they are silent again, that the Yamal-402 satellite was manufactured by a non-Russian OJSC “Information Satellite Systems” named after Academician M.F. Reshetnyova ", like all the previous ones, but by the French company Thales. bully
            1. Ribwort
              Ribwort 30 March 2013 15: 56 New
              +2
              Quote: "... the Yamal communications satellites are used to transmit coordinates for missiles, the work of which is provided by Gazprom ─ space systems ..."
              If I misunderstood something, correct it: is Gazprom a private shop?
              That is, effective managers will decide everything here? belay
              1. Funker1981
                Funker1981 30 March 2013 19: 21 New
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                Quote: Ribwort
                Is Gazprom a private shop?

                As far as I know, this is state. corporation.
                1. Nick
                  Nick 31 March 2013 18: 35 New
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                  Quote: Funker1981
                  As far as I know, this is state. corporation.

                  It’s not entirely true that the state has a controlling stake (50,002%), yes, but there are only about 500 thousand shareholders. These are both individuals and legal entities.
        2. lelikas
          lelikas 30 March 2013 13: 23 New
          +4
          To launch missiles, the submarine must reach the periscope depth and release the antennas, - This is true for the 60s of the last century ....
    2. Andrey57
      Andrey57 30 March 2013 09: 25 New
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      Actually, they didn’t say anything “new” yet again, there was an automatic nuclear strike system in the Union when 2 rockets took off and transmitted codes and coordinates, after that all nuclear carriers were launched in the machine without the participation of people, from all mines and boats, even standing at the pier. Amer then called this system of automatic retaliatory nuclear strike inhumane laughing
      1. zao74
        zao74 30 March 2013 09: 58 New
        +4
        In my opinion, the Dead Hand system was called. Something like this.
      2. eretik
        eretik 30 March 2013 10: 28 New
        11
        The system was called the “Perimeter.” Moscow’s dead hand was called the liberal media. True, it also had to be activated before the war. Well, then it was itself. With the help of sensors: seismic, radioactive, the territory of the country was monitored. If the data about the impact were confirmed by the team "hang up" did not arrive rockets started, broadcast the team and all that was left went to the victory banquet in NATO. Just when they open the champagne. In 1995 the system was removed from duty.

        PSAccording to some reports, when Putin came to power, the system was restored and it was on combat duty again. "In December 2011, the Strategic Missile Forces commander, Lieutenant General Sergey Karakaev, stated that the Perimeter system exists and is on combat duty."
    3. Ascetic
      Ascetic 30 March 2013 10: 12 New
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      Quote: Wedmak
      . If at all true.


      Generally nonsense. Especially this one.
      The latter can produce retargeting ballistic missiles even in flight and launch them from submarines without crew participation.


      Most likely the satellite will be used as one of the channels in the ASBU system
      to bring orders. Izvestia has well-known science fiction writers, but not to the same extent. It turns out from their words that the geost. Gazprom’s satellite plays the role of a perimeter command missile. All PZs, as well as coordinates, are recorded in the CVC in advance. There are no more than seven of them for each missile.
      And no FSB officers and commanders know the real goals and coordinates.
      1. Yves762
        Yves762 30 March 2013 20: 19 New
        +6
        Quote: Ascetic
        Izvestia has well-known science fiction writers, but not to the same extent.
        - at least until ... laughing
        Journalism
        1. NOBODY EXCEPT US
          NOBODY EXCEPT US 31 March 2013 12: 53 New
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          Laughing for a long time ....... plus definitely ...
    4. nakaz
      nakaz 31 March 2013 01: 02 New
      +1
      Who said that we do not support democracy? We just have our own shade))
    5. kosmos44
      kosmos44 31 March 2013 07: 05 New
      +3
      Gazprom will provide guidance for Russian strategic missiles from nuclear submarines

      Well, it finally became clear who ruled the country.
  2. bask
    bask 30 March 2013 07: 48 New
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    Three satellites for the entire submarine constellation. Moreover, not in the structure of the Navy’s Defense Ministry, but a joint-stock company. This is absolutely impossible.
    Need to revive, the Soviet analogue of the satellite constellation ,, Legend ,,
    Maritime reconnaissance and target formation system (ICRC) ,, Legend ,,

    KA ,,, US-PM ,,,
    1. bask
      bask 30 March 2013 07: 56 New
      +8
      In 2013, Russia is completing the development of an analogue of the satellite system, Watercolor,
      A satellite system was developed and will be launched in 2013, reconnaissance and target destruction, Watercolor, for the Russian Navy, Leana, analogue, Legend ,,,
      With satellites ,,, Peony-NKS ,, and ,, Lotus-S ,,,
      1. Wedmak
        Wedmak 30 March 2013 08: 00 New
        +6
        Um ... interesting picture. A satellite in the background ... Mars. Will a group of underground strategic missile carriers be deployed there too? smile
        1. tronin.maxim
          tronin.maxim 30 March 2013 08: 10 New
          +4
          Do you think that the Americans are spreading their democracy there?
          1. Wedmak
            Wedmak 30 March 2013 08: 41 New
            +7
            If they find oil there, they will get there. And faster than we expect.
            1. hrych
              hrych 30 March 2013 18: 40 New
              +4
              it’s just that the Elk fanned the fire of the world revolution there, Aelitu tried to sniff like ...
        2. bask
          bask 30 March 2013 08: 23 New
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          Quote: Wedmak
          picture. A satellite in the background ... Mars. Will a group of underground strategic missile carriers be deployed there too?

          Sorry overlooked. SATELLITE SATELLITES There are no photos of them. Are you comfortable with the background of the earth?
          The Russian defense and cosmic departments announced a closed tender for the development of the Watercolor system. Roscosmos and the Ministry of Defense began developing a unique multi-level satellite intelligence system. The estimated duration of the project is 5 years. A senior source in the Ministry of Defense told Izvestia that the Berg Central Research Institute of Radio Engineering (TsNIRTI) won the competition to develop the foundations of this system ....
          1. Wedmak
            Wedmak 30 March 2013 08: 43 New
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            Sorry overlooked. SATELLITE SATELLITES There are no photos of them. Are you comfortable with the background of the earth?

            why are you so, I was joking. It is clear that there is no photo, not even the slightest idea of ​​how they look. And the fact that something has moved in this direction is pleasing, the Boreas are leaving the slipways, but we must give them target designation. Yes, and intelligence, the right thing.
    2. Andrey57
      Andrey57 30 March 2013 09: 30 New
      +1
      These satellites, if necessary, are completely switched over to the control of the VKO MCC, and the fact that they are supposedly “joint-stock Gazprom” are noodles for general use hi
    3. sergius60
      sergius60 30 March 2013 10: 52 New
      +3
      Network-centric wars. Have you heard? Everything is everywhere and nowhere. Forces and control sprayed so that the "adversary" boiled his brain, but did not figure out what and where. what
  3. pinecone
    pinecone 30 March 2013 08: 28 New
    +9
    "Gazprom will provide guidance of strategic missiles from submarines ..". Nonsense.
    1. Russian
      Russian 30 March 2013 08: 55 New
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      They used to spin around everywhere that Gazprom National Treasure, although the prices add up, now they also provide the defense of our country, will they also advertise this? It would be better if they finally completed the Zenith Arena stadium, otherwise they would be dishonored throughout the country, and the military would somehow manage it.
      1. Wedmak
        Wedmak 30 March 2013 09: 07 New
        +4
        Yes, they still twist. Before the evening news. Moreover, the "national treasure" has something in common with "we are Gazprom." The sediment remains, they say we are Gazprom, and the rest are black ....
    2. Tersky
      Tersky 30 March 2013 11: 28 New
      +2
      Quote: pinecone
      Gazprom will provide guidance of strategic missiles from submarines .. ". Some kind of nonsense.

      So the ad “Gazprom, dreams come true” and “Gazprom comes to your house” as if hinting wink that in which case he’ll “come” to any country in the world, laughing Bullshit of course ...
      1. cosmos111
        cosmos111 30 March 2013 11: 53 New
        +5
        Quote: Tersky
        azprom, dreams come true "and" Gazprom comes to your house "as if hinting

        Dreams come true, but not for everyone. And for a fairly narrow circle of people admitted to the gas valve
  4. Sirocco
    Sirocco 30 March 2013 08: 33 New
    +4
    to transmit coordinates for missiles, Yamal communication satellites are used, the work of which is provided by Gazprom ─ space systems, Somehow this company guards me, Is it possible to trust such projects of OJSC? Reminds a saying about a goat and cabbage. All these business exchanges do not inspire confidence. Either clubs buy, then they build gyms, ABROAD. And here the safety of the Motherland was entrusted to these traders. Or is it a hidden ad for Gazprom ???
    1. Dock
      Dock 30 March 2013 09: 33 New
      0
      "Gazprom" IS OUR EVERYTHING! Unfortunately.
      1. nickname 1 and 2
        nickname 1 and 2 30 March 2013 10: 07 New
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        whose work is provided by Gazprom ─ Space Systems, a subsidiary of the Gazprom gas monopoly.

        Something like this .... Well, so be it. The main thing is - lively.
        1. Sirocco
          Sirocco 30 March 2013 10: 30 New
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          Quote: nick 1 and 2
          The main thing is - lively.

          You know, I’ve been buying gas sprays for a tourist gas stove for several years, and I’m no longer surprised that China and Korea are among the manufacturers of these cylinders. We manage to fuck ourselves. Or does Gazprom have us?
  5. APASUS
    APASUS 30 March 2013 08: 33 New
    +3
    What is not being done at the expense of Gazprom.
    Where's the military satellite constellation?
    Degenerals by cottages pulled away?
    1. Sirocco
      Sirocco 30 March 2013 08: 39 New
      +7
      Quote: APASUS
      What is not being done at the expense of Gazprom.

      What is being done? Sochi or what? Take the Baikal and Transbaikalia, what has been done there from Gazprom? One TV commercial. Both children went to competitions at their own expense and go, and many talents, and can not afford it, did not see new gyms and playgrounds from Gazprom in schools. All of Europe is heated by gas, and all of Siberia in the 21st century, by wood and coal. That's all the achievements.
      1. APASUS
        APASUS 30 March 2013 12: 00 New
        +3
        Quote: Sirocco
        What is being done? Sochi or what? Take the Baikal and Transbaikalia, what has been done there from Gazprom?

        The question was this:
        Where is the military group?
        1. Korzhik_77
          Korzhik_77 30 March 2013 13: 30 New
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          APASUS
          Upstream, BASK commented out this question hi
  6. sashka
    sashka 30 March 2013 08: 37 New
    +5
    Nonsense .. Today it seems not April 1 .. Boats, satellites, nuclear bombs and Gazprom.
    A strange combination. People mixed up in a bunch, horses ..
  7. erased
    erased 30 March 2013 08: 44 New
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    If less time passes from the launch order to the launch itself, that’s good. But duplication should be manual. Just in case.
  8. killganoff
    killganoff 30 March 2013 08: 51 New
    +2
    This is p..ts full !!! And tomorrow, OJSC chocolate factory "Russia" will begin production of target designation systems for tactical missiles ...
    In turn, the well-known "Russia" has long been owned by the foreign company "Nestle".
    1. sergius60
      sergius60 30 March 2013 11: 01 New
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      Do you know who owns the blocking package of this same "Nestle"? In this world, everything is twisted by such a pig’s tail, that with the help of the annual release of Crystal, you’ll understand the hell. request
  9. Snegovok
    Snegovok 30 March 2013 08: 55 New
    +3
    Well, why is it nonsense, it seems to me that it was a budget option for the Moscow Region at no time, Gazprom launches a satellite but they put blocks on them for the needs of Moscow Region, all costs are minimized, but at the same time the grouping of satellites for target designation is saved, and not just decommissioned, as was the case with GLONASS
    1. Wedmak
      Wedmak 30 March 2013 09: 09 New
      +4
      Azprom launches a satellite but they put blocks on them for the needs of Moscow Region, all costs are minimized

      Blocks vryatli. Yamal is simply satellite TV and Internet transponders. They don’t care if the signal reaches the addressee or not. Who knows what satellite fishing (he did it himself) will confirm how easy it is to intercept an unencrypted signal.
      1. urganov
        urganov 30 March 2013 16: 47 New
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        Yamal is bullshit. no encoding, at the level of 60 years. who wants to argue in PM ... but then do not be offended. wassat
    2. sergius60
      sergius60 30 March 2013 11: 08 New
      +1
      Good girl, I praise, I support. I realized in years. And then some "all-polymers" are openly furious and beg for something to be cracked on the cumpole. Maybe then the gears in the head fall into place? Plus. fellow
  10. WWW.budanov
    WWW.budanov 30 March 2013 09: 41 New
    +2
    Quote: bask
    The Russian Defense and Cosmic Departments announced a closed tender for the development of the Watercolor system. Roscosmos and the Ministry of Defense began developing a unique multi-level satellite intelligence system.

    And yet, we have "kulibins," And, not in just one "sharashka", but in defense firms. Good luck to you Military Engineers !!!
    (old teacher)
  11. bubla5
    bubla5 30 March 2013 09: 49 New
    0
    If the Moscow region uses a satellite constellation of any company, this is generally absurd, in any conflict with Russian reality, wait for a break from communication
    1. Aleks28
      Aleks28 30 March 2013 09: 54 New
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      Quote: bubla5
      If the Moscow region uses a satellite constellation of any company, this is generally absurd, in any conflict with Russian reality, wait for a break from communication

      This is generally a state-owned company, so that everything is logical.
      1. hrych
        hrych 30 March 2013 18: 43 New
        +3
        Well, the creation of a military satellite constellation, as in the likeness of Almaz manned military stations under the guise of civilian Salutes, may also be legally scheduled for commercial launch.
  12. zao74
    zao74 30 March 2013 10: 00 New
    +2
    What can I say ... Hello Skynet.
  13. medwed1976
    medwed1976 30 March 2013 10: 05 New
    +1
    Um ... interesting picture. A satellite in the background ... Mars. Will a group of underground strategic missile carriers be deployed there too?
    Well, since traces of water were found on Mars, it’s not soldier surprisingly
  14. medwed1976
    medwed1976 30 March 2013 10: 12 New
    +3
    I want to be a shareholder of Gazprom drinks
    1. dusha233
      dusha233 30 March 2013 13: 30 New
      -1
      Watch and listen to this Jew more often; he will still not sing them !!!!
      1. Ascetic
        Ascetic 30 March 2013 13: 57 New
        +2
        Quote: dusha233
        Watch and listen to this Jew more often; he will still not sing them !!!!


        The origins of their "creativity" have essentially not changed since Soviet times

        KGB counterintelligence and writer Igor Atamanenko studied the issue of jokes. According to him, they were often invented in the editorial offices of anti-Soviet publications in Paris and Munich, and then "were airborne to our kitchens."
        Anti-Soviet jokes, where the main figures were Kremlin celestials, played the role of shock troops, which were entrusted with the task of undermining the foundation of Soviet power, ”Atamanenko is convinced. - The first years of the 1980s entered modern Soviet history as the five-year plan of the Three Ps - the Five-Year Plan of Lush Funeral.
        After Brezhnev’s death, Andropov and Chernenko, who did not shine with health, ascended the throne. But despite their physical weakness, the leaders sensitively listened to the "enemy voices" - broadcasts of the radio stations Voice of America and Liberty, Deutsche Welle and Voice of Israel. Konstantin Ustinovich demanded that they certainly put on the table a printout of jokes, jokes and ditties dedicated to him (this was the duty of the head of the Fifth Directorate of the KGB). Moreover, Chernenko insisted that he be notified of the news of foreign folklore in advance, even before they became the property of the ears of Soviet citizens.
        As a result, two of our agents were introduced into the Russian section of the editorial board of the anti-Soviet Continent magazine, published in Paris.
        The process of "anecdotal rapping" was secretly captured on videotape and diplomatic mail delivered from France to the Lubyanka.
        So, Paris, January 1984. Edition of the "Continent". Meeting room amphitheater. On the electronic scoreboard there are burning letters that add up to the phrase: "The most important of the arts for us is the creation of political jokes." There are twenty people in the hall — former members of the Writers Union and the USSR Journalists Union.
        I happened to watch a meeting filmed by a hidden video camera.
        On the agenda is the question “Why did Brezhnev meet guests, leaders of foreign states, at the airport, by the plane’s ramp, and Chernenko meets them in the Kremlin?”
        In the past, the famous Soviet writer, winner of the Lenin Komsomol Prize, Misha Kheifets, urges masters to propose their own answers. He announces the details of the state of health of the deceased Leonid Brezhnev and the still breathing Konstantin Chernenko. Recalls that an electric stimulator of the heart muscle, powered by batteries, was sewn into the flesh of the late leader.
        And now the living leader receives a charge of vivacity from a dropper, being in the Kremlin hospital, - Misha continues explanatory work. - Thus, we see that Brezhnev was mobile, while Chernenko was statuary motionless. Is it because of this that there have been changes in the Kremlin protocol of meetings of foreign leaders ?! Come on, come on! Think, think finally!
        The Kheifets monologue, violated by questions and remarks of those present, lasts about two hours. Then all answer options are entered into the computer ...
        As a result, a new joke appears, attributed to the asset of the Armenian radio.
        So the question is:
        - Why did Brezhnev meet the leaders of foreign powers at the airport, and Chernenko in the Kremlin, holding on to the office wall?
        Answer:
        - Because Leonid Ilyich worked from the battery, and Konstantin Ustinovich - from the network!
        link
        1. NOBODY EXCEPT US
          NOBODY EXCEPT US 31 March 2013 13: 08 New
          +1
          That is, do you think the RUSSIAN people cattle final and irrevocable? And the thousand-year history of buffoons of buffoons and other folk artists is everything from there to you? In my opinion, even the Germans didn’t think about our people, and you write all sorts of crap for the sake of the Kremlin duets. from washington? Originally, as Lieutenant Rzhevsky used to say .....
    2. Skiff-2
      Skiff-2 30 March 2013 21: 34 New
      0
      Do not envy Syom to Gazprom shareholders, not the 90s, there will be no freebies!
  15. patriot2
    patriot2 30 March 2013 11: 39 New
    +2
    [quote = medwed1976] I want to be a shareholder of Gazprom drinks

    He sings well ... Well, there can be several control systems for launch and flight of the BR (main and duplicate), so everything is relevant ... and it pleases smile
  16. 955535
    955535 30 March 2013 13: 27 New
    +1
    The article writes: "Last (in the sense of a control system) can retarget ballistic missiles even in flight and launch them from submarines without crew participation.

    Laughed
    The author of the article is apparently very far from the topic he represents.
  17. Zlyden.Zlo
    Zlyden.Zlo 30 March 2013 14: 16 New
    +1
    With a serious mess, we and the enemy will not begin to extinguish each other’s satellites in the first place?
  18. Zomanus
    Zomanus 30 March 2013 14: 34 New
    0
    Normal news. Did the satellites just launch yesterday? As a duplicating system with a universal .., it will do just fine.
  19. srha
    srha 30 March 2013 14: 41 New
    +1
    Gentlemen, is anyone friends with the theory of security of information systems? Iranians successfully seize control of state UAVs. Who and how soon will take control of missiles from Russian submarines?
  20. Enot-poloskun
    Enot-poloskun 30 March 2013 16: 05 New
    +2
    Or is it misinformation?

    Amerikosy think: “Gazprom” is a national treasure))) “Our everything”.

    Rejoice. All lasers and anti-satellite missiles will be guided to Yamal.

    And ours will watch and laugh as the Americans bury the money allocated for safety in the sand.
  21. itr
    itr 30 March 2013 19: 37 New
    0
    Five companions are just laughing
    I think today is more reliable manually
  22. amp
    amp 31 March 2013 16: 38 New
    0
    Submarines - the last century. It's time to create a space fleet of orbital stations. From space, you can attack with both nuclear and conventional missiles.