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Automatic fire pistols VP 70

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Continuing the theme of pistols with the possibility of automatic fire, try to get acquainted with another sample. weaponsnamely a VP 70 pistol, originally from Germany. The reason for writing an article about this weapon, as with Lecler's gun, became a comment under the article about pistol "Dart"who had the opportunity to conduct automatic fire with a cut-off of three rounds. The VP 70 pistol is somewhat different from the above models, as the pistol itself can only fire with a single fire, but when you attach the butt to it, new possibilities are already opening up. But first things first.


The appearance of the weapon is quite interesting. First of all, the disproportion of the handle and the rest of the pistol catches the eye, it seems that the handle is very thin, and the gun itself is too heavy and large. In fact, all this is not so. The weapon is very comfortable to hold, and the narrowing of the handle is due to the fact that before the shutter release button there is still a part of the frame where the safety button is installed. The button that can be taken as the store eject button is actually the lock button for the release button, while the magazine is fixed by a latch at the bottom of the handle. The release key itself is rather unusual in shape, but it is very convenient when using the weapon with hands protected by gloves. In front of the trigger is the casing-shutter lock. Sights simple, unregulated consist of a pillar and front sight. The shutter casing has rare notches on its sides, which ensure reliable retention when sending the cartridge into the chamber. The most interesting point is that the gun has a plastic frame, but at that time it was up to Glokov, oh, how far. However, this is not the first weapon with a wide use of plastic in the design. The design of the weapon is clearly not enough bolt delay, which immediately catches the eye.

Automatic fire pistols VP 70The weapons were made in two versions: in civilian, without the possibility of automatic fire and with the “trimmed” capacity of the casing-bolt, as well as the army, which could conduct automatic fire at the attached butt, and also had a 18 magazine capacity. There is information that there was another option, without the possibility of automatic fire, but with the normal capacity of the store. The weight of the weapon without ammunition was 820 grams. The length of the gun without a butt 204 millimeter, with a butt - 545 millimeters. The length of the barrel weapon is 116 millimeters. Height gun 142 millimeter, thickness 32 millimeter. The gun is powered by 9x19 cartridges.

Despite the fact that the weapon uses relatively powerful ammunition, its automation is focused on the free gate, which is alarming for the reliability of the weapon. In order to eliminate the blow to the breech breech, there is a small damper that softens their interaction during the reverse course of the shutter. The use of a free bolt in the pistols for such ammunition is a very rare case, since such an automation system significantly affects the durability of the weapon. However, in order to be able to deploy large-scale production of these weapons at any time, it was decided to use just such a system. The trigger mechanism of a piston weapon is only of a double action, that is, compression of the mainspring occurs while the trigger button of the pistol is pressed. A fairly tight trigger key affects the accuracy of firing, however, as noted by those lucky enough to encounter this weapon, there is no problem getting into a person at a distance of 25 meters. The trigger mechanism of the pistol of only double action allowed to abandon the usual system of protection against accidental firing. In principle, it was possible not to introduce any safety devices into the design of the pistol at all, since the tight movement of the release key almost completely eliminates a random shot. However, a button fuse that blocks the release key has been installed.

As mentioned above, the gun itself does not have the ability to fire an automatic fire, this option appears when you install the butt to a weapon that has a fire switch with two positions: “single fire” and “automatic fire” with a cut-off of three rounds . Since the weapon shop only has a capacity of 18 cartridges, after the short bursts of 6, the magazine needs to be replaced and this is precisely where the slide lag is clearly lacking. In the end, it was possible to make the store more roomy for automatic fire, but the fact that the shooter’s knees would have fought against him wouldn’t be the first and the last specimen with the magazine sticking out of the handle.

The high rate of fire can be attributed to the positive features of the weapon, about 2200 rounds per minute, of course, that all three rounds will not fall into one point, but the impact of recoil at this rate of fire does not have a significant impact. So if you hold the gun firmly, at a distance of up to 25 meters, all bullets are guaranteed to hit the enemy.

The butt of the weapon serves as a holster. In general, such a gun was created for the purpose of rapid and universal armament of the population with at least some weapon in case of anything. Simple to manufacture, effective at short distances, this pistol would perfectly serve as a temporary weapon until a more effective sample with a greater effective range falls into the hands. Despite this, only about 3200 units of weapons were released, after which production was curtailed in the middle of 1989. This weapon was not widely spread, as well as great fame, although even managed to flash on the screen in the movie "Aliens." As it seems to me, this gun was very late with its appearance, since if it had been created for years on 10-20 before, it would certainly receive the maximum distribution. By the time it was created, the views on the short-barreled weapon were already somewhat different, and even the mass of interesting decisions in the design of the weapon could not bring it forward. Nevertheless, on this gun some solutions were worked out, which later became widespread, such as the plastic frame of the weapon. So the gun was created for nothing and fully justifies its development.
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  1. mark1
    mark1 April 5 2013 07: 27 New
    +6
    A good gun for police and special forces (as an additional weapon). But the free shutter ... In short, in order to get the right opinion about these weapons, you must either shoot yourself or find the comments of the person who used it.
    1. SlavakharitonoV
      SlavakharitonoV April 5 2013 22: 50 New
      +1
      The Germans are born techies
  2. dmitreach
    dmitreach April 5 2013 07: 29 New
    +2
    He’s weird ...
    And the concept itself is strange. With sleight of hand and a certain skill, and "semi-automatic" - "automatic" will become.
    1. dmitreach
      dmitreach April 5 2013 17: 13 New
      +1
      just in case, I’ll explain: the girl is actively working with a finger. the number of shots is equal to the number of clicks on the trigger.
      Jessie Duff is a well-known person in the shooting community.
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_enrW_owYzQ
  3. Landwarrior
    Landwarrior April 5 2013 08: 25 New
    +1
    Hmm, I remember flashed such in the early 90s in some police series, there a killer from him drenched some VIPa laughing
    Thank you, a very interesting article! good
  4. Vladimirets
    Vladimirets April 5 2013 08: 32 New
    +2
    Why is automatic fire tied to the butt? what What is the sacred meaning of this? As the author wrote correctly, with a cutoff of three rounds, a relatively weak ammunition and high rate of fire, it is possible to effectively fire from hand.
    Article +.
    1. Mikhado
      Mikhado April 5 2013 08: 53 New
      +6
      Quote: Vladimirets
      Why is automatic fire tied to the butt? what What is the sacred meaning of this? As the author wrote correctly, with a cutoff of three rounds, a relatively weak ammunition and high rate of fire, it is possible to effectively fire from hand.
      Article +.

      So the ammunition is not weak - Para9x19, hands will tear wink
      This is not an APS for PM9x18, there the free shutter is justified, and the German has it a tribute to cheapness. Therefore, for "foolishness", they made it impossible to fire bursts without a stock, and there is more space for the cut-off mechanism there.
      In fact, it is micro-PP.
      1. mark1
        mark1 April 5 2013 08: 55 New
        +1
        Took off the tongue. I wanted to answer the same thing. But the free shutter is interesting!
      2. the47th
        the47th April 5 2013 13: 21 New
        0
        Quote: bazilio
        But still, there is something attractive in this gun, and it looks a bit futuristic (at the time).

        In my opinion, this is the first serial gun with a plastic frame.
  5. bazilio
    bazilio April 5 2013 08: 42 New
    +2
    Thanks Cyril!
    "Since the weapon magazine has a capacity of only 18 rounds, after 6 short bursts, the magazine needs to be replaced, and this is where the slide delay is especially evident." There is also a lack of a magazine latch button under the thumb of the holding hand. In the case with this gun, in order to pull out an empty magazine, you need to press the latch with a non-holding hand, and it definitely will not work to hold the barrel in the direction of the targets.
    But still, there is something attractive in this gun, and it looks a bit futuristic (at the time).
    The first time I learned about this gun is playing the widely known resident evil 2
    1. the47th
      the47th April 5 2013 13: 22 New
      +3
      Quote: bazilio
      But still, there is something attractive in this gun, and it looks a bit futuristic (at the time).

      In my opinion, this is the first gun in the world with a plastic frame.
      1. bazilio
        bazilio April 5 2013 17: 32 New
        +4
        Quote: the47th
        In my opinion, this is the first gun in the world with a plastic frame.

        Yes, it seems first. But the point here is not only in plastic. Look at Glock - it’s also interesting in its own way, but so to say it does not cause the effect of futurism. But then my opinion
    2. Raphael_83
      Raphael_83 April 5 2013 15: 53 New
      +3
      Quote: bazilio
      playing the famous resident evil 2

      Later it will appear in RE4 (bonus content) and RE6 (main). By the way, in RE2, realism was observed - the gun could shoot in bursts only after Leon found the complete quandaries.

      What an elegant machine, no strength. The design of weapons is still not the last thing.
      Respect for Cyril for the article (I pulled it into my collection).

      Hello to everyone and everyone hi.
  6. avt
    avt April 5 2013 09: 08 New
    +3
    Forgotten pattern. Thanks to the author -Reminded +. Of course it’s fun to shoot bursts with a pistol, but to me personally, with all due respect to the engineering solution to the problem, it seems better to have a full-fledged software than a hybrid.
    1. Peacemaker
      Peacemaker April 5 2013 09: 47 New
      +3
      It is absolutely logical to take the same Spectrum M4, with comparable dimensions, a full-fledged PP with a normal store and without any additional piers for automatic shooting.
  7. Ch0sen1
    Ch0sen1 April 5 2013 09: 15 New
    +4
    Particularly pleased with the name: VolksPistole - folk pistol :-)
    1. wasjasibirjac
      wasjasibirjac April 6 2013 19: 36 New
      0
      Quote: Ch0sen1
      Particularly pleased with the name: VolksPistole - folk pistol :-)

      and the civilian was marked "Z" - civil.
  8. avt
    avt April 5 2013 09: 45 New
    +3
    Quote: Ch0sen1
    Particularly pleased with the name: VolksPistole - folk pistol :-)

    Yeah, it’s necessary to include all the Volkswagen cars as standard. laughing
    1. Raphael_83
      Raphael_83 April 5 2013 15: 56 New
      +3
      I recall the phrase of one of the party functionaries of the NSDAP at the premiere of "Beetle" that took place in reality: "Completely, Herr Porsche! The best people's car is a bus. Why does every worker need his own car ?!"
      It is interesting that he would say on your proposal ... Not too radical move, not request ? However, as a means of improving discipline on the roads and combating corruption ...
  9. Terrible ensign
    Terrible ensign April 5 2013 12: 03 New
    +1
    This gun is very convenient when holding, with one hand or with two. I must say, I didn’t shoot, I just held it in my hands. A deep landing in the arrow of the arrow provides greater convenience when aiming - the line of sight (front sight - rear sight) is almost one with the radius of the arm that you shoot. The guy who let him hold said that the impression during the shooting was exclusively positive, despite the fact that: the shutter was free, and the cartridge was powerful enough ...
    1. mark1
      mark1 April 5 2013 14: 44 New
      +1
      So it’s interesting how it was possible to combine the almost incompatible - a free shutter and a powerful cartridge. Due to what, the shutter is held at the initial stage of the shot, obviously not mass, maybe a powerful spring (well, very powerful)
  10. marshes
    marshes April 5 2013 15: 47 New
    +3
    A gun that can fire automatically without three rounds of ammunition is not chosen by special forces, but by all sorts of maniacs and bandyugan, weapons of hidden carrying. And in a short time at a short distance you can create a fairly high density of fire for a group of people.
    Someone remembered PPSh, a good barrel for shooters. smile
    Thank you for the article!
    1. mark1
      mark1 April 5 2013 17: 45 New
      0
      PPSh is good for special forces, although there is no three-prong cutoff
      1. marshes
        marshes April 5 2013 17: 55 New
        +1
        Quote: mark1

        PPSh is good for special forces, although there is no three-prong cutoff

        For special forces, a machine gun with a shortened barrel is best. With magazine or tape power, caliber 7.62. For combat up to 250 meters and a rate of fire of 800-1200 rounds per second.
        I like this one. You can create an analogue on the basis of RPK (74) or RPD.
        1. mark1
          mark1 April 5 2013 18: 41 New
          +1
          According to the declared TTX PPSh just the very thing
          1. marshes
            marshes April 5 2013 18: 44 New
            +2
            Quote: mark1
            According to the declared TTX PPSh just the very thing

            That the bullet would be pointed, with a tungsten carbide core, would win. Then the very thing, and the 33-45 mm sleeve
            1. mark1
              mark1 April 5 2013 21: 13 New
              +1
              Or instead of a bullet, swept elements, three in a sleeve (45 mm) ...
              1. marshes
                marshes April 5 2013 21: 35 New
                +1
                Quote: mark1

                Or instead of a bullet, swept elements, three in a sleeve (45 mm) ...

                Ammunition should be standard and widespread in the world, 7.62 to 39 is the most.
                1. mark1
                  mark1 April 6 2013 07: 18 New
                  +2
                  At the expense of arrow-shaped elements, I was joking, of course, during the discussion we switched to a completely different class of small arms and so perhaps we will reach the "Minigun". But, I agree, the more firepower, the better for spetsnaz in assault operations.
        2. wasjasibirjac
          wasjasibirjac April 6 2013 19: 38 New
          +1
          take ACSU and attach the can from the PKK - the same. only overheating without shooting the bank
    2. Petr7
      Petr7 4 July 2016 17: 49 New
      0
      you tell the Russian special services, such as the GRU, Chinese or English (that would have unfolded and added to them) to specialists.
      An experienced shooter from MP38 / 40 or Maxim can shoot single if shot. (Well, they do not have such a feature as a single fire).
      And the Bandyugans choose either an ordinary AK or "samostroy"
  11. Mister X
    Mister X April 5 2013 16: 38 New
    +4
    Curious product.
    Volkswagen Class: on the manufacturer’s website it’s positioned as
    "The Pistol for the People" - A pistol for the people.
    Many admit that Heckler & Koch VP70 -
    really the first gun with a polymer frame.

    Thanks to the light imbalance, you can't confuse him.
    with no other weapon.
    It has something in common with Mauser C96 and APS.
    Unlike other pistols manufactured by NK
    VP70 has a fairly simple design:
    "Firm" (and difficult) semi-free mechanism
    locking barrel replaced by a free slide.

    I know that VP70 was produced in two versions:
    chambered for 9X19mm and under 9x21mm.

    Incomplete disassembly for cleaning weapons is simple enough
    but with complete disassembly there are a few small details.
    After removing the hammer mechanism from the housing
    when installed in place of a hammer, springs and damper,
    the shooter must fix the cap of the damper
    in the only correct position:
    risk in position vertically.

    Magazine latch located at the base of the handle:
    like TT, PM, PSM and Walther P5.
    To retrieve an empty magazine, you need a second hand,
    but there won't be an arbitrary drop in the store,
    for which sometimes TT pistol was criticized.

    Description VP70 on the site NK
    http://www.hkpro.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=42:the-vp70&ca
    tid = 6: the-pistols & Itemid = 5

    At the end of the clip is shown shooting bursts

  12. sdf3wresdgg
    sdf3wresdgg April 5 2013 16: 54 New
    0
    The base of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of all citizens of the Russian Federation on this site trunc.it/mll61 and the main thing was done as if to search for lost relatives, but here is all the information about each of us: correspondence with friends, addresses, phone numbers, place of work, and the worst thing is even mine nudity photo (though I do not know from where ...). In general, I was very scared - but there is such a function as "hide data" of course I used it and I advise everyone not to hesitate, you never know
  13. Mister X
    Mister X April 5 2013 17: 03 New
    +5
    Heckler & Koch VP70 with a fastened butt, shooting bursts

    1. mark1
      mark1 April 5 2013 17: 50 New
      +1
      Impressed. The machine deserves more recognition
  14. mark1
    mark1 April 5 2013 18: 03 New
    +2
    A little off topic. Since we are discussing little-known samples of small arms so sincerely, I propose in one of the following articles (I hope they will) discuss Voevodin’s pistol. Small series still in 1941-42 came into service. The most interesting gun! (From the point of view of the domestic weapons business)
    1. wasjasibirjac
      wasjasibirjac April 6 2013 19: 42 New
      0
      interesting - no words - 20 rounds of 7,62 * 25, a barrel without a casing, what to shoot from a tank. but is the series just experimental?
      1. anomalocaris
        anomalocaris April 7 2013 19: 20 New
        0
        We managed before the war itself and at its beginning to produce only a series for military trials.
  15. scrabler
    April 5 2013 19: 08 New
    +3
    Thank you all for the evaluation of the work. hi The weapons models mentioned in the comments will be in the following articles. wink
  16. Mister X
    Mister X April 5 2013 22: 43 New
    +7
    Quote: marshes
    For special forces the best machine gun


    We started with a discussion of the gun, and finish Iskaner.

    APS with APB are excellent for special forces:
    Remember what stormed the palace of Amin.
    And do they all go to the palace with the PKK?








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  17. Massik
    Massik April 5 2013 23: 18 New
    +1
    Well, if the RPK was with a short barrel then why not?
    The fighter’s gloves are interesting in the photo, and he doesn’t look like a Russian in his headgear)))
  18. Mister X
    Mister X April 7 2013 20: 03 New
    0
    Quote: mark1
    discuss Vojvodina pistol


    I am aware of two models of Vojvodina pistols:
    18-round, (1939) - known as "a gift to Stalin"
    8-charging, (1948 g.) - participated in the competition to replace the pistol TT.
    Competition in the end won Makarov pistol design.

    It is said that after many failures, he stopped designing weapons,
    moved to another city and began to work almost in the food industry.


    Voivodina Pistol 1939 g.


    Voivodina Pistol 1948 g.
  19. smershspy
    smershspy 3 May 2013 10: 37 New
    +2
    Quote: mark1
    A good gun for police and special forces (as an additional weapon). But the free shutter ... In short, in order to get the right opinion about these weapons, you must either shoot yourself or find the comments of the person who used it.


    Totally agree!
  20. Petr7
    Petr7 4 July 2016 17: 35 New
    0
    VP 70 Z - cannot fire bursts! for he has no connection to the holster. The difference even in appearance is that the one that can shoot bursts has a ledge under the thumb of the right hand, the one that DOES NOT shoot bursts and to which the holster can NOT be fastened - the arms are even on both sides.

    There are 3 modifications:

    VP70 / VP70A1 is the earliest modification. It has a device on the holster-butt, which allows, when connected to the gun, firing in bursts of three rounds.
    VP70M - military model, compatible with the butt.
    VP70Z - civilian version; Works only in self-loading mode, not compatible with the butt.

    A limited edition of 400 copies of the VP70Z was given under the 9x21mm IMI cartridge for the civilian market in Italy, where the use of 9x19mm Parabellum cartridges is a police and military privilege. On this option, you can install the butt, but you can not change the fire mode.