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“Lieutenant Prose” - Grigory Baklanov

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Grigory Yakovlevich Baklanov (real surname Friedman) was born on September 11 1923 in the city of Voronezh in a family of dentists. A domestic writer, publicist, one of the most prominent and well-known representatives of an extensive pleiad of prose writers of the front-line generation, a representative of the so-called “lieutenant prose”, in whose works of art the truth about the Great Patriotic War was affirmed. In his autobiography, Grigory Baklanov once said: “When I returned home from the front, I was 21 for a year. I returned from the war with the firm conviction that the most important thing in my life has already been done. Then it was extremely easy for me. I did not want to make any career, I was absolutely indifferent to what would happen to me next. I was firmly convinced: the main thing of my life has already been done. "


Grigory Baklanov lost his parents early, the father of the future writer died in 1933, his mother in 1935, so he was brought up in the family of his uncle. He spent his childhood and youth in Voronezh. After graduating from grade 9, Gregory goes to study in aviation technical College. When the war began, he worked as a mechanic at the 18th aircraft factory, which was engaged in the production of IL-2 attack aircraft. In order to get to the military school, Grigory Baklanov externally passed exams for grade 10 (at that time it was rumored that only those who managed to finish the decade would be enlisted in the army), but, taking advantage of the opportunity, he went to the front as a private, got to artillery.

Then the front was his main goal, but Gregory Baklanov could only get there in winter. He was sent to the North-Western Front in a howitzer artillery regiment. From the front, he was sent to study at the 2-e Leningrad Artillery School, graduating from which he came to the South-Western Front (later the 3-th Ukrainian). During the battles for Zaporizhzhya in October, 1943 was seriously wounded, but after six months he returned to his native regiment and fought Moldavia. He took part in combat operations in Hungary, near Lake Balaton, participated in the storming of Budapest and Vienna. He graduated from the war as a lieutenant of artillery reconnaissance in Austria. He was awarded military orders and medals, in particular: Order of the Patriotic War 1-th degree, Order of the Red Star, medals "for the capture of Budapest" and "for the capture of Vienna."

Experiences and impressions of front-line life formed the basis of the future works of art of the writer. Later, Baklanov recalled that for his literary heroes he always took the names of the people with whom he fought. Especially dead fellow soldiers, in order to at least so revive them.
“Lieutenant Prose” - Grigory Baklanov

After the war, Grigory Baklanov graduated from the Literary Institute. Maxim Gorky, began to be printed in 1950-e years. His first essays and stories could be attributed to the post-war "village prose" and were devoted to the life of the post-war kolkhoz village. The first story “Reprimand” was published in the magazine “Peasant Woman” in 1951, in 1954, the story “In Bullfinches” was published, in 1955, the essay “New Engineer”. At the same time, his first works about the Great Patriotic War brought fame to the writer.

According to the author himself, the first war story of the writer “South of the main strike”, which saw the light in 1958, still left a lot to be desired, but contained the real truth about the war, “my” truth. In 1959, the second military story “The Spit of the Earth” was published in the magazine “New World”, which was subsequently published in 36 countries of the world. This may seem strange, but the Soviet official criticism took it very negatively, regarding it as a model as if it were a vicious "trench truth." For some reason in the country of the workers and peasants, this was considered something base. To some extent, this prose was opposed in many respects by the pathetic military literature of those first post-war years, to the fact that during the war and immediately after its end it was created by war correspondents.

At the same time, at the end of 1950, in military prose the events of the past war begin to be recreated by writers not only as a great feat of the entire Soviet people, but also as great misfortune and catastrophe that made millions unhappy. The fate of a particular, private person at the front will remain in the center of attention of all Baklanov’s military works: the story “The Dead do not have shame” (1961 year), the story “How much is a pound of a chore” (1962 year), the novel “July 41 year” (1964 year) . In his novel “July 41 of the Year”, Grigory Baklanov would be one of the first domestic writers to name the 1937 trials, Stalin’s destruction of the top commanders of the Red Army, among the causes of the catastrophic defeat of the first months of World War II. The novel, which had a separate book, was nevertheless banned for 12 years, although already in 1967, at the IV Congress of Soviet Writers, it was recognized as one of the most significant works in Soviet literature about the past war.

Subsequent works by Baklanov - the story “Karpukhin” (1965), the novel “Friends” (1975), the story “Smaller among brothers” (1981) - told the reader about peacetime, but the heroes of these works were still representatives of the generation that passed war Therefore, the heroes measured their actions that they committed in this peaceful life with the moral standards that they had formed during the war.

Again, very loudly, Baklanov made a name for himself in 1979, when he saw the light of his story “Forever the nineteen-year-old”, which was awarded the USSR State Prize. In this story, the writer again turned to military weekdays. From a peaceful distance away, Grigory Baklanov tried to peer into that war, which after the publication of his book would be called the “lieutenant war,” that is, seen not from headquarters, but from the battlefield. Young people who have just received their first officer ranks - “clean, honest boys” who lay down their heads on the battlefields.

In the story "Forever - Nineteen", as it were, concentrated above the dignity of Baklan prose. Later, the critic wrote about him: “nothing imaginary, meaningful. Cormorants are always trying to write frankly and simply. The writer is able to keenly experience everything that happens to man and the world. ” Young lieutenants, heroes of the work of Baklanov, have a keen sense of the value of every moment they live in a war, every day. Equally captured by the reader and the descriptions of battles, and frequent with Baklanov descriptions of nature, the existence of which is an alternative to the nightmare that people have built.

Besides this, Baklanov wrote 2 books of foreign essays: “Temp of Eternal Chase” (1971) and “Canada” (1976), he also often enough played the role of essayist and author of memoirs, which were written in an artistic-documentary manner. According to the scripts of Grigory Baklanov, 8 feature films were shot (some of which are based on his books), he considered the best film “It was the month of May” (1970 year) directed by MM M. Khutsiev. The most significant dramatic work of the writer was the play “Fasten your seat belts” (1975 year), which was staged at the Taganka Theater by director Yu. P. Lyubimov.

It so happened that the war became the main event in the life of Gregory Baklanov, as well as many other people of his generation - they just knew little of her. Before heading the Znamya magazine during the years of perestroika, Baklanov did not work anywhere - at first he was a soldier, and then all the time a writer. At the same time, the role he played as editor of this magazine in 1986-1993 is very large. For several years, this literary magazine was the first to publish many works that were previously banned, among them: “By the right of memory” by A. Tvardovsky, “The Heart of a Dog” by M. Bulgakov, “A golden cloud spent the night ...” by A. Pristavkina, “ Loyal Ruslan "G. Vladimirov. Grigory Baklanov published in “The Banner” of Pelevin and Kibirov, Bulgakov and Platonov - in general, he became for the magazine those who could become Tvardovsky for the “New World”.

In the 1995 year, the writer's next novel, And then the Looters Come, came out, a work about a generation that survived one of the worst wars, but which, due to the difficult contradictions of the new time, is on the verge of civil war. Baklanov’s last novel was written not so much by a writer as by a publicist. Moscow events 1993, have not had time to forget and remain in memory. Also in 1995, the book by Grigory Baklanov, “I was not killed in the war,” was published in Moscow, and the following year, the book of memoirs, “Enter the narrow gate.”

Grigory Baklanov died on December 23 on 2009 on the 87 year of life, was buried in Moscow at the Troekurovsky cemetery.

Information sources:
-http: //www.velib.com/biography/baklanov_grigorijj
-http: //www.hrono.info/biograf/bio_b/baklanov_frid.php
-http: //imhonet.ru/person/13933
-http: //ria.ru/culture/20091223/201038916.html
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  1. vyatom
    vyatom April 1 2013 09: 42
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    In his novel “July 41”, Grigory Baklanov will be one of the first Russian writers to name the causes of the catastrophes of the first months of World War II as the trials of 1937, and the destruction of the high command of the Red Army by Stalin
    This should be read by the current Stalinist whooper who cry out sprinkling with saliva. I would like to hope that people will read and still will not allow a repetition of those events in the future.
    1. biglow
      biglow April 1 2013 12: 01
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      Quote: vyatom

      The reason for the repressions among the military was a conspiracy to seize power. You don’t have to look at everything so one-sidedly. The Germans didn’t doze either and threw up dirt on the military. There are many reasons for every fact, and if you don’t block Stalin everything, then you don’t blame everything. Tukhachevsky and others like him were not just executed, there are always reasons ...
      1. vyatom
        vyatom April 1 2013 13: 50
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        Quote: biglow
        the reason for the repression among the military was a conspiracy to seize power. Do not look at everything so one-sidedly.

        Stalin had paranoia, which was expressed in ruthless repressions. The current generation, driving foreign cars and living in greenhouse conditions, wanted a firm hand, judging by the comments. It becomes sickening. Conclusions must be made.
        Yes, and give specific facts of the conspiracy, in addition to Tukhachevsky.
        1. biglow
          biglow April 1 2013 16: 45
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          Quote: vyatom
          Quote: biglow
          the reason for the repression among the military was a conspiracy to seize power. Do not look at everything so one-sidedly.

          Stalin had paranoia, which was expressed in ruthless repressions. The current generation, driving foreign cars and living in greenhouse conditions, wanted a firm hand, judging by the comments. It becomes sickening. Conclusions must be made.
          Yes, and give specific facts of the conspiracy, in addition to Tukhachevsky.


          well, they are participating in conspiracies individually, and
          Enough of this propaganda, in total 15 thousand people were repressed. All have long been published, units were shot, many were reinstated
    2. Hudo
      Hudo April 1 2013 12: 46
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      Quote: vyatom
      In his novel “July 41”, Grigory Baklanov will be one of the first Russian writers to name the causes of the catastrophes of the first months of World War II as the trials of 1937, and the destruction of the high command of the Red Army by Stalin
      This should be read by the current Stalinist whooper who cry out sprinkling with saliva. I would like to hope that people will read and still will not allow a repetition of those events in the future.


      Did Grigory Baklanov himself write about the "repressions", or was it popularly explained to him by the leaders of the then agitprop, because the book was not published without their consent. Phrase : "The novel, which managed to be published as a separate book, was nevertheless banned for 12 years.", says precisely that the bureaucrats simply twisted his hands.
    3. vardex
      vardex April 1 2013 16: 27
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      There is no punishment without guilt ..... Baklanov, at the time of the outbreak of the war, retreating to Moscow, could not control the situation on the fronts, etc. he was a simple ordinary citizen of the USSR that he could know what really happened and who was to blame.
  2. rexby63
    rexby63 April 1 2013 12: 09
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    Only not Vladimirov, but Vladimov. And I would not put on a par with Twardowski and Vladimov. And regarding the causes of the defeat of the 41st, Baklanov conveys the thoughts of an 18-year-old boy. At least the thoughts that he brought from the war and I would not take it as a basis. The basis is his description of the War, I prefer to draw conclusions myself
    1. vyatom
      vyatom April 1 2013 13: 44
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      Quote: rexby63
      And regarding the causes of the defeat of the 41st, Baklanov conveys the thoughts of an 18-year-old boy. At least the thoughts that he brought from the war and I would not take it as a basis. The basis is his description of the War, I prefer to draw conclusions myself

      If you had experienced the 41st year in your own skin, you would not have written all kinds of nonsense. Thousands of innocent warlords were convicted. Units returned to duty. The Finnish war showed the then level of the commanders of the Red Army. And everything that happens to the country then has its own explanation. You were lucky not to be thrown under German tanks in the 41st, and you dare to talk about who is right and who is not on the victory laurels of the 45th.
      1. Old_kapitan
        Old_kapitan April 1 2013 14: 23
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        If you had experienced the 41 year in your own skin, you would not have written all kinds of nonsense.

        Uti-ways ... Anuka, tell us how you experienced 41 in your own skin ...
        1. vardex
          vardex April 1 2013 16: 43
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          they haven’t experienced anything, but if you have to try it, they will run away, the heels will sparkle, only cormorant and can .................
        2. vyatom
          vyatom April 2 2013 16: 17
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          Quote: Old_Kapitan
          Uti-ways ... Anuka, tell us how you experienced 41 in your own skin ...

          Go nah
      2. rexby63
        rexby63 April 1 2013 18: 32
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        Thousands of innocent


        If you indulged in emotions less, then these "thousands of innocent people" would not exist either. And if they were, then their level, as military leaders, was no higher than the same Zhukov or Antonov. And maybe lower. Which is more believable. In my opinion, there were only a few "Rokossovskie", that before the 37th, that after
        1. vyatom
          vyatom April 2 2013 16: 20
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          Quote: rexby63
          If you indulged in emotions less, then these "thousands of innocent people" would not exist either. And if they were, then their level, as military leaders, was no higher than the same Zhukov or Antonov. And maybe lower. Which is more believable. In my opinion, there were only a few "Rokossovskie", that before the 37th, that after

          Rokosovsky also miraculously came back and after the war he kept the name weapons under his pillow in order to shoot himself, if he comes, they will be brought by the NKVD officers. He explained to his relatives that he would not suffer another arrest. So there you go.
          1. rexby63
            rexby63 April 2 2013 18: 32
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            Remembering Stalin, Konstantin Konstantinovich once said:

            - And how would you react to your mother, who punished you undeservedly?
  3. potach
    potach April 1 2013 16: 55
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    I have not experienced 41 years on my own skin, but my father met the war near Bialystok. And the fact that he told confirms the words of Grigory Baklanov.
  4. Vanyatko
    Vanyatko April 1 2013 17: 35
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    vyatom "Thousands of innocent military leaders were convicted"
    K.K. Rokossovsky. Repressed in 1937. In 1940, completely rehabilitated.
    According to Air Marshal Alexander Golovanov, in 1962 N. S. Khrushchev told Rokossovsky to write a “blacker and thicker” article against I. V. Stalin, according to the Chief Air Marshal Alexander Golovanov, Rokossovsky answered: “Nikita Sergeevich, comrade Stalin for me saint! ”, - and at the banquet he did not clink glasses with Khrushchev. The next day, he was finally removed from the post of Deputy Minister of Defense of the USSR.
  5. Vanyatko
    Vanyatko April 1 2013 17: 37
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    K.K. Rokossovsky. Repressed in 1937. In 1940, completely rehabilitated.
  6. Vanyatko
    Vanyatko April 1 2013 17: 40
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    vyatom "Thousands of innocent military leaders were convicted"
    K.K. Rokossovsky. Repressed in 1937. In 1940, completely rehabilitated.
  7. GG2012
    GG2012 April 1 2013 20: 33
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    To be honest ... we are tired of the tenacious and "caring" Jewish hands telling us about our history.
    Where are we without them ??? !!!
    They wrote us a religion.
    And they write the story.

    PS How difficult is it for a writer with a Slavic surname to become a famous writer.
    But for a Jew with a Russian surname (pseudonym), it is enough to loudly ruin the air with anti-Semitism and go over your friends.
  8. Aaron Zawi
    Aaron Zawi April 1 2013 22: 47
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    Quote: GG2012
    To be honest ... we are tired of the tenacious and "caring" Jewish hands telling us about our history.
    Where are we without them ??? !!!


    In the summer of 1941, Vasily Grossman was mobilized into the Red Army, he was awarded the rank of quartermaster of the 2 rank. From August 1941 to August 1945, he served as a special war correspondent for the newspaper Krasnaya Zvezda on the Central, Bryansk, Southwest, Stalingrad, Voronezh, 1-m Belorussian and 1-m Ukrainian fronts.
    During the battle for Stalingrad V.S. Grossman was in the city from the first to the last day of street fighting. For participation in the Battle of Stalingrad, including in battles on the front line of defense, he was awarded the Order of the Red Banner. In 1943, he was awarded the rank of lieutenant colonel. On the memorial of the Mamayev Kurgan, the words from his essay “The direction of the main blow” were beaten out: “The iron wind hit them in the face, and they all went forward, and again a sense of superstitious fear swept the enemy: did people go on the attack, are they mortal?” The novels “The People are Immortal”, “Stalingrad Essays”, and other military essays have been compiled into the 1945 book of the year “Years of War”.
    V.S. Grossman was among the first to set foot in the Majdanek and Treblinka concentration camps liberated by the Soviet troops.
    1. GG2012
      GG2012 April 1 2013 23: 38
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      Quote: Aron Zaavi
      From August 1941 to August 1945 he served as special war correspondent for the newspaper Krasnaya Zvezda

      Exactly! We fought, and they wrote!

      And also Vasily Semenovich Grossman (real name - Joseph Solomonovich Grossman - is known as one of the falsifiers of the Holocaust theme.
      After the war, Grossman and Ilya Ehrenburg compiled the so-called “Black Book” - a collection of evidence and documents about the Holocaust. The Black Book was published in English in 1947 in New York.
      Yosia Grossman is also known for the mediocre novel "For a Just Cause" - the novel "Life and Fate", which is sharply anti-Stalin nature.

      According to unofficial statements by A.A. Fadeeva, Yosya Grossman "... had no talent, he was a mediocre hack, but this shortcoming was more than compensated for by a good opportunistic instinct and the ability to throw a couple of hundred pages on the" right topic "approved by the Central Committee.
      1. Lopatov
        Lopatov April 2 2013 00: 04
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        Quote: GG2012
        Exactly! We fought, and they wrote!



        And did you personally fight a lot?

        Ilya Erinburg:
        Like blood in your temple
        Like a year in the blood, like an account of insults,
        As grief drunk and without wine,
        And how great silence
        What after bullets and after mines,
        And a hundred pounds, for a moment,
        Like this life - don't eat, don't drink
        And do not breathe - one thing: kill!
        For your wife’s tight mouth
        For years burned
        For there is no sleep, no walls,
        For the cry of children, for the cry of sirens,
        For the fact that even the image
        His eyes cried
        Behind the mountain of insulted bees
        Because he came to you
        Because you don’t eat, don’t drink,
        Like blood in a temple - one thing: kill!


        Try to refute the "vile Jewish innuendo"
        1. GG2012
          GG2012 April 2 2013 00: 08
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          Quote: Spade
          And did you personally fight a lot?

          And you?
          Is Lopatov a pseudonym? ... And after him ... some Moisheman, Peysman, or Geyurman?
          So? ... no?
          1. Lopatov
            Lopatov April 2 2013 00: 18
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            Will you answer a simple question? How many have you personally "fought"? I was personally lucky, I served in the 19th motorized rifle. 1998 to 2008 So the question of patriotism is not worth investigating, is it, Ukrainian?
            1. TUMAN
              TUMAN April 2 2013 00: 22
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              Quote: Spade
              are you Ukrainian?

              So could write only a Jew who hates the Slavs!
              1. Lopatov
                Lopatov April 2 2013 00: 26
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                I'm a Belarusian by my mother. Do you think that after Khmelnitsky and Khatyn I am obliged to kindle for you with "brotherly love"? Explain, Kali weasel, why should I respect you more than the Israelites?
                1. TUMAN
                  TUMAN April 2 2013 01: 11
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                  Quote: Spade
                  Why should I respect you more than the Israelis?

                  Did I demand respect from you? I do not need the respect of the Zionist!
            2. GG2012
              GG2012 April 2 2013 00: 38
              +1
              Quote: Spade
              I personally was lucky

              I see ... then Lopatov is an alias that hides ...
              1. Lopatov
                Lopatov April 2 2013 00: 47
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                Quote: GG2012
                I see ... then Lopatov is an alias that hides ...

                The one who remembers. And do not forget to please political correctness. By the way, the wife is a pure Belarusian, she generally does not like Ukrainians ... Thanks to the activities of your patriots, under the Germans who guarded the Brest-Gomel road

                And did you think that everything is so simple? Tell me, in what country is the person who burned Khatyn an honorary citizen of the city? In Israel?
                1. TUMAN
                  TUMAN April 2 2013 01: 13
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                  Quote: Spade
                  The one who remembers. And do not forget to please political correctness. By the way, the wife is a pure Belarusian, she generally does not like Ukrainians ... Thanks to the activities of your patriots, under the Germans who guarded the Brest-Gomel road

                  A cheap attempt to pit the Slavs, in this situation, Ukrainians with Belarusians! I am not surprised, it is so Zionist, to divide and rule!
                  1. Lopatov
                    Lopatov April 2 2013 01: 28
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                    Bleed? Is it in Russia 7 percent vote for the Nazis? Or in Belarus?

                    How many "patriots" do you have in parliament?
                  2. vyatom
                    vyatom April 2 2013 16: 36
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                    Quote: TUMAN
                    A cheap attempt to pit the Slavs, in this situation, Ukrainians with Belarusians! I am not surprised, it is so Zionist, to divide and rule!


                    Under Bogdan Khmelnitsky, just the Belarusians and Ukrainians united and a lot of trouble caused both the Polish and Jewish people.
  9. Aaron Zawi
    Aaron Zawi April 1 2013 23: 52
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    Quote: GG2012

    Exactly! We fought, and they wrote!
    If I have not forgotten, then you are from the so-called "Westerners"? Then the next question is, against whom did your grandfathers fight? If in the Red Army then maybe you can read about them on podvignaroda? Otherwise, your position is reminiscent of a supporter of the Svoboda party.
    1. Lopatov
      Lopatov April 2 2013 00: 02
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      Grow due to the temporary absence of flags. wink

      Remembering Soviet Jewry, Krivoshein comes to my mind first of all. They say Guderian was lucky for the second time not to meet with nm smile
    2. TUMAN
      TUMAN April 2 2013 00: 03
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      Quote: Aron Zaavi
      Otherwise, your position is reminiscent of a supporter of the Svoboda party.

      Aron! Where our position is up to yours! You are a scorched Zionist! And do not write me the opposite!
      1. Lopatov
        Lopatov April 2 2013 00: 09
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        Quote: TUMAN
        You are a scorched Zionist!

        Is that bad?
        1. TUMAN
          TUMAN April 2 2013 00: 14
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          Quote: Spade
          Is that bad?

          Do you think it’s good? Zionism and fascism are one and the same. And here you are trying to write about high matters!
          1. Lopatov
            Lopatov April 2 2013 00: 22
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            Everyone has the right to be a nationalist, right. My good friend escaped from the Russian army so as not to get into Chechnya. He died in the second Lebanese.
            I respect the Zionists. I did not fight with them. Unlike the Arabs.
      2. Aaron Zawi
        Aaron Zawi April 2 2013 00: 19
        +2
        Quote: TUMAN
        Quote: Aron Zaavi
        Otherwise, your position is reminiscent of a supporter of the Svoboda party.

        Aron! Where our position is up to yours! You are a scorched Zionist! And do not write me the opposite!

        If a Jew lives in Israel and his opinion that Jews in general, despite all difficulties, it is best to live where they themselves are responsible for their future, that is, in Israel, then I am a Zionist.
        1. TUMAN
          TUMAN April 2 2013 00: 41
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          Quote: Spade
          I respect the Zionists.

          Quote: Aron Zaavi
          then yes I am a Zionist.

          Q.E.D!
          1. Lopatov
            Lopatov April 2 2013 00: 53
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            And you, I'm sorry, from the Arabs? Ready to fight with Israel until the last Palestinian?
            1. TUMAN
              TUMAN April 2 2013 00: 58
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              Quote: Spade
              And you, I'm sorry, from the Arabs?

              I will disappoint you, I am a Slav.
              1. Lopatov
                Lopatov April 2 2013 01: 08
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                Quote: TUMAN
                I will disappoint you, I am a Slav.

                Why capitalized? How do you feel about the Poles, hate a little less than the Jews?
                1. TUMAN
                  TUMAN April 2 2013 01: 19
                  +1
                  Quote: Spade
                  How do you feel about the Poles

                  Not as hostile as you to the Palestinians!
                  1. Lopatov
                    Lopatov April 2 2013 01: 34
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                    Okay, I'm an open person, I respect the opinions of others and am ready to accept it.

                    Explain why I should respect the Palestinians who tried to kill me and hate the Jews who were not seen in this?
              2. vyatom
                vyatom April 2 2013 16: 28
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                And Ukrainians are also Slavs?
              3. vyatom
                vyatom April 2 2013 16: 34
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                Quote: TUMAN
                I will disappoint you, I am a Slav.

                That's really really disappointing.
  10. GG2012
    GG2012 April 2 2013 00: 04
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    Quote: Aron Zaavi
    If I have not forgotten, then you are from the so-called "Westerners"? Then the next question is, against whom did your grandfathers fight?

    I have 875 comments.
    In which of them did you see what gave rise to attributing me to the "Svobodovtsy" and to the "Westerners"?
    Your conditioned reflex (according to Pavlov) to the flag says only that I have something to do with Ukraine. And that’s all ...
    So, after your phrase "If I haven't forgotten, then ...", then comes pure fantasy.
    1. Aaron Zawi
      Aaron Zawi April 2 2013 00: 16
      +1
      Quote: GG2012

      If offended I apologize. But since you said "we fought ...", let's start with our loved ones. I do not want to wave about the Internet data on the participation of Jews in general and Soviet in particular in the fight against the Nazis. Let's compare our grandfathers? Don't worry, they are not generals. Infantry captain and lieutenant tanker. Let's read their award lists, they are also posted on podvignaroda.
      1. GG2012
        GG2012 April 2 2013 00: 31
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        Quote: Aron Zaavi
        If offended, I apologize.

        Oh! ... Come on, come on ...
        Quote: Aron Zaavi
        But since you said "we fought ...", let's start with our loved ones.

        We, the Soviet people, fought.
        And you - correspondents - like Friedman and Grossman - wrote heroic stories about us.
        Quote: Aron Zaavi
        Let's compare our grandfathers?

        This is what I cruelly apologize for ... But, I’ll tell you directly ...
        Monsieur Aaron, Vi is not on the collective farm market ... To compare who's grandfather is cooler ...
        Something like this ... in Jewish ... who has pace longer, he is right.

        Your grandfathers and my grandfathers, their respect at that time ... earned in the war.
        And we do not measure their dignity.
        it's clear?
        1. Lopatov
          Lopatov April 2 2013 00: 39
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          Quote: GG2012
          Monsieur Aaron, Vi is not on the collective farm market ... To compare who's grandfather is cooler ...

          My great-grandfather fought. Grandfather fought. My father fought. So do I. Can I decide who is here "on the collective farm market"? I don’t have to measure my grandfather’s dignity. So did the Israelites. Which with their permanent war restrain a bunch of people who are too much puzzled by Islam.
          1. GG2012
            GG2012 April 2 2013 00: 43
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            Quote: Spade
            Can I decide who is here "on the collective farm market"?

            It seems you did not read my comment to the end or the whole.
            Present your claims to your Aaron.
            1. Lopatov
              Lopatov April 2 2013 01: 05
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              Why read there? You hate the Jews, I consider them normal people who have the right to their state
            2. vyatom
              vyatom April 2 2013 16: 32
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              [quote = GG2012] It seems you did not read my comment to the end or the whole. Present your complaints to your Aaron.

              CG2012 you have not answered a clearly posed question to you. Carried some crap. So where and on which side did your relatives fight?
        2. Aaron Zawi
          Aaron Zawi April 2 2013 00: 43
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          [quote = GG2012] [quote = Aaron Zaavi]
          Monsieur Aaron, Vi is not on the collective farm market ... To compare who's grandfather is cooler ...
          Something like this ... in Jewish ... who has pace longer, he is right.
          Your grandfathers and my grandfathers, their respect at that time ... earned in the war.
          And we do not measure their dignity.
          זה ברור? [/ Quote]
          It's nice that in Ukraine they study Hebrew. hi
          Well, Grosman was a military correspondent, unlike Belov (Friedman), who fought on the very thing that is not the front end and therefore, apparently, you do not like his work, but Sholokhov, and Simonov? They didn’t attack either.
          Well, about the market you started. It was you who wrote "we fought, and they .."
          1. Lopatov
            Lopatov April 2 2013 01: 12
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            Thank you for the opportunity to quarrel. You are not to blame, just ... Every 9th of May you celebrate. Please post pictures from last year, with veterans. To Ukrainians to be ashamed. They know why.
  11. studentmati
    studentmati April 2 2013 01: 08
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    Good article.
  12. Vanyatko
    Vanyatko April 2 2013 21: 19
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    Quote: GG2012 Frankly speaking ... the tenacious and "caring" Jewish hands that tell us about our history are tired. Where are we without them ??? !!!

    Do not go too far. Among any people there are scum and normal people. About normal people:
    During the Great Patriotic War, Joseph Abramovich Rapoport from the first days of the war volunteered for the front. He went from a platoon commander to the chief of staff of the 184th Guards Regiment of the 62nd Guards Rifle Division, was seriously wounded twice, and lost his left eye. During the war he defended his doctoral dissertation, being treated after one of the injuries.
    For courage and ingenuity shown on the battlefields (in particular, the case of successfully repelling the attack of German tanks in Hungary by the Rapoport rifle battalion with the help of the Faustpatrons captured from the Germans themselves is notable) Joseph Rapoport was awarded two orders of the Red Banner, the Order of Suvorov, III degree.
    And the commissar of the Brest Fortress Efim Moiseevich Fomin?
    Who are they? Answer - Real Soviet people.