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Lerker and Kuppini Pistol

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In the comments to the article about the gun "Dart"able to conduct automatic fire with a fairly high pace and cutting off three rounds, it was suggested to get acquainted with another pistol that can shoot a burst, namely, the development pistol of Cesare Leclaire and Carlo Couppini. Weapon it was planned to be designed for self-defense, while the main idea was to use relatively weak and ineffective 6.35 Auto ammunition in automatic fire control, which, according to the designers, was to compensate for the shortcomings of these cartridges. Let's start, as usual, with the cartridges.


The .25ACP or 6,35 Browning cartridge was one of the most common self-defense weapons in the early twentieth century. Under this cartridge was released a huge number of various models of weapons that not only bought, but even used for self-defense. However, after using this ammunition, there was a high probability of getting an attacker "by schm", since the cartridge was far from being the most effective and stopped the attacker only if he had a very low pain threshold, or in case of damage to vital organs. In general, there was little confusion from such a baby, if it were otherwise, then a gun with the possibility of automatic fire under this ammunition would not have appeared. I found this cartridge in one of the domestic samples, namely in the Korovin pistol, but not in its original form, but with some changes, but this is already in another article. Weapons for this ammunition are made now, although it has not been in such demand for a long time as before, however, compact models based on this cartridge are acquired as an additional means of self-defense, in case the main weapon refuses.

Lerker and Kuppini PistolThe length of the cartridge case is 15,5 millimeters. Ammunition is loaded with a shell bullet weighing 3,25 grams, while the mass of the cartridge itself is equal to 5,3 grams. The mass of powder charge is 0,09 grams. The barrel of a weapon is 54 millimeter long, the bullet leaves at a speed of 228 meters per second, that is, its kinetic energy is about 92 Joule. In order to understand how weak this cartridge is, we can cite as an example those situations when the bullet of this cartridge could not penetrate a man’s forehead, of course, not when fired at an emphasis, but, nevertheless, though pleasant from such a hit, it seems to me few. In general, the effective range of weapons for a given ammunition is limited to 10 meters, and even with great reservations, since the ammunition itself is not effective.

Actually it was with such a patron that the designers decided to work on creating their own pistol. The advantage of automatic fire at short distances in self-defense weapons, even with such a weak cartridge, is obvious. First of all, it is a multiply increasing chance to kill the enemy, and in a very short period of time. After all, weapons are used not to scare, but to protect life, and to protect life, all means are good, especially when the law is on the side of the defender. The second positive quality of automatic fire with weak ammunition at a short distance is that, in principle, it is not necessary to aim; a very small recoil of the weapon makes it possible not only to control the gun when firing, but also to fully control it during firing, it’s a pity that the shop weapons emptier very quickly. The 20 magazine's ammunition capacity was devastated with continuous fire for a second at an 1200 firing rate per minute. Initially it was planned to make a weapon with a larger magazine for 25 cartridges, but it was decided not to make a full-sized submachine gun from a self-defense weapon, therefore priority was given to reducing the weight and size of the weapon, and not to a large-capacity store, although I think 20 cartridges are enough "for eyes". By the way, even with twenty cartridges, the pistol turned out to be far from the lightest (930 grams) and not the most compact (184 millimeters long).

Automatic weapons was built by analogy with machine guns pistols, there was nothing new invented. The fire was fired from the open bolt, that is, before the shot it was necessary to take the bolt back. Much more interesting was how it was all arranged. The return spring of the pistol was located around the barrel, while the bolt itself had, in fact, the length of the weapon itself and moved along the barrel as if it were a guide. All this was collected in the receiver, which was a tube with a trunk fixed in it and an adjacent handle with a trigger mechanism. It is noteworthy that the trigger mechanism of the weapon was located under the barrel. The location of the trigger mechanism determined the location of the main elements of the weapon control, and also had a positive effect on its dimensions. Magazine gun is inserted into the shaft inside the handle, is fixed with a spring-loaded latch at the bottom of the handle. Sights are open, unregulated and, in fact, unnecessary.

Unfortunately, or maybe not, the weapon did not become widespread, since the Italian authorities considered that such a compact submachine gun was too dangerous for the civilian population and especially for the Italian authorities. The police and the army also did not become interested in the pistol, since the cartridge was too weak. As a result, only about 150 units of these weapons were produced, which were “scattered” around the world. The designers did not dare to do something similar under a more effective ammunition, since this would have seriously affected the size and weight of the weapon, and the recoil of the gun would be unthinkable.

If you evaluate the weapon as a whole, then you can keep within just one word - “I WANT!”. Despite the fact that the cartridge in the weapon is frankly weak, the gun itself is not intended for use at long distances, and so on, this weapon is really an effective means of self-defense. Although it was possible that the possibility of automatic fire caught here, since if you turn on the mind and compare this sample with 20 cartridges in the store and something similar in weight and dimensions to 10-14 cartridges with .40S & W cartridges with expansive bullets, then it’s clear which side the audience will be sympathy. But still, the submachine gun in his pocket simply makes him want to be in possession of its essence.





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  1. mark1
    mark1 April 4 2013 08: 19 New
    +4
    I completely agree with the assessment of this weapon by the author. That's it I WANT! Here, by the way, it is possible to take into account not a small psychological effect - when an attack of bullets suddenly falls on the attackers (the fact that the cartridge is weak in the case of self-defense is even good). Run away will be quarter 2 (unless of course we are dealing with professionals)
    1. Vladimirets
      Vladimirets April 4 2013 08: 46 New
      +3
      Quote: mark1
      Run away will be quarter 2 (unless of course we are dealing with professionals)

      I think that both professionals and non-professionals will not run away anywhere, unless they shoot into the air.
      1. mark1
        mark1 April 4 2013 08: 52 New
        +1
        Yes, of course, I had in mind about air ("psychological effect"), with another option, several lying bodies are guaranteed for a second.
    2. Mikhado
      Mikhado April 4 2013 08: 51 New
      +3
      All is well, but a cutoff of 3-4 shots would not hurt.
      1. scrabler
        April 4 2013 16: 03 New
        +2
        I completely agree, so very quickly the cartridges will leave without her smile
    3. alexey garbuz
      alexey garbuz April 7 2013 00: 47 New
      0
      And what happens if the threaded cover is ripped off? It seems that all the recoil hits her!
  2. Vital 33
    Vital 33 April 4 2013 08: 55 New
    +5
    The gun combines, in a paradoxical way, grace and ugliness (in my opinion). Although the layout is really very interesting ...
    1. scrabler
      April 4 2013 16: 04 New
      0
      And I like, unusual, effective, despite the cartridge, there is something in it smile
  3. avt
    avt April 4 2013 09: 29 New
    +4
    Yeah, I WANT laughing Estimate if to give it to the blonde for self-defense, like that he will press and will not let go around ... laughing The author continues to savor the exotic good
    1. scrabler
      April 4 2013 16: 04 New
      +2
      Yes, no, do not have time to move around, the cartridges end)))
  4. cth; fyn
    cth; fyn April 4 2013 10: 12 New
    0
    Italian authorities felt that such a compact submachine gun is too dangerous a weapon for civilians

    AAAA! 10 meters ran back and everything, FIG bang you. Kopets what a dangerous weapon!
    By the way with LTSU generally THING will be.
    1. mark1
      mark1 April 4 2013 10: 24 New
      +2
      Well, he ran away! Well done! The main thing is not to come closer, do not bother to breathe fresh air calmly. And LTSU at 10m is a pampering ...!
      1. cth; fyn
        cth; fyn April 4 2013 16: 10 New
        +1
        That's exactly what ran back and everything, the upsurge of self-defense has not yet been canceled.
        And about the LCC, as they say, it’s convenient once, scary two.
    2. scrabler
      April 4 2013 16: 06 New
      +1
      So a weapon for self-defense) At 10 meters, this is no longer self-defense)))
  5. Landwarrior
    Landwarrior April 4 2013 10: 24 New
    +2
    The first thing I remembered seeing photos of these "products" - "hello from the 90s" - a firing pen under a small cartridge, shouted to a children's toy gun laughing
    Damn, Cyril, where do you find such "freaks"? laughing
    1. scrabler
      April 4 2013 16: 07 New
      +2
      And what am I, I did not know anything))) I didn’t even know about such a sample until I suggested in the comments laughing
      1. Landwarrior
        Landwarrior April 4 2013 19: 20 New
        +2
        scrabler, I used to think that it’s difficult to come up with something new in weapons design, now after your articles I can see, you can come up with, but it’s difficult at the same time not to slide into an appearance like "locksmith Uncle Vanya machined drunk" laughing
        Thank you!
        1. Bad_gr
          Bad_gr April 6 2013 22: 35 New
          +2
          Quote: Landwarrior
          I used to think that in weapons design it’s difficult to come up with something new ...

          And here is our exotic.
          At international competitions it was so effective that the rules were rewritten according to which it no longer corresponded to the permitted ones.
          Alas, I forgot the author of this work, and after it there are a lot of interesting developments.

          Well, purely collectible:
          1. anomalocaris
            anomalocaris April 7 2013 04: 34 New
            +1
            Sheptarsky frame. This incident occurred at the Olympics in Melbourne.
            1. Bad_gr
              Bad_gr April 7 2013 11: 02 New
              +1
              Quote: anomalocaris
              Sheptarsky frame. This incident occurred at the Olympics in Melbourne.

              Thanks for the information.
          2. Landwarrior
            Landwarrior April 8 2013 11: 28 New
            0
            Quote: Bad_gr
            And here is our exotic.

            Well, it's a sports gun. Judging by the Beetle, they’re all a bit of that ... strange
            For example, the MTs-1,2 looks like some kind of self-propelled gun. Only ergonomic handle saves smile
            Only Margolin (with its "kids" - "Margot" and "Drill") still back and forth smile

            PS: Something I can’t load photos, visibility does not work crying
            1. anomalocaris
              anomalocaris April 8 2013 12: 37 New
              +1
              So at the heart of the "Sheptarsky framework" lies margolin ... Only upside down .. request
              1. Landwarrior
                Landwarrior April 8 2013 13: 20 New
                0
                Exactly, thanks for recalling, but somehow flew out of the head good
    2. cth; fyn
      cth; fyn April 4 2013 16: 12 New
      +3
      And in my opinion this weapon is quite harmonious and not without a peculiar aesthetics.
  6. bazilio
    bazilio April 4 2013 11: 57 New
    +2
    Thanks to the author as always! An interesting design, I also WANT this one !!!

    I don’t know how anyone, but when I look at this gun, I mentally want to find on it a side neck for the shop a la PP Wall, the attachment points of the wire butt))) I still have the feeling that the barrel and butt were cut off by the wall, the handle was screwed, well it is very similar to PP))
    Exotic!
    1. scrabler
      April 4 2013 16: 08 New
      +2
      As a self-defense weapon, an excellent apparatus, a fig with a patron, but it is cheap, which in this case is exactly a plus smile but it lacks only one detail - PBS repeat Well, in order to defend quietly, it was possible not to wake civilians)))
      1. bazilio
        bazilio April 4 2013 17: 17 New
        +2
        Exactly))) By the way, the second time I looked at him, some features of the Beretta M12 are caught in it)) Looks like Stan turned to Beretta, that's the result
  7. Ch0sen1
    Ch0sen1 April 4 2013 12: 31 New
    +2
    The Italians know a lot about perversions, then they have a double-barreled submachine gun on the machine, then pocket.
    And the unit turned out to be funny and elegant :-)
    1. scrabler
      April 4 2013 16: 15 New
      +3
      I personally welcome such perversions))) There would be more of them;
      1. Ch0sen1
        Ch0sen1 April 4 2013 16: 36 New
        +3
        So I'm talking about perversions in a good way smile
      2. alexey garbuz
        alexey garbuz April 7 2013 00: 40 New
        0
        No, countryman, our TK will be prettier, only eight rounds of ammunition, but the line of sight is lower and the length is 160 and about 100 in height.
  8. Massik
    Massik April 4 2013 12: 54 New
    +3
    Looks like a portable drill laughing learn to shoot ie "Each bullet at the target!
    "and you won’t need such punchers, especially at 10 meters it’s not at all difficult and takes a long time to study.
    1. the47th
      the47th April 4 2013 13: 34 New
      +1
      This weapon is not for those who do not know how to shoot, automatic fire in order to get a good stopping effect with a weak killer. By the way, it is necessary to conduct experiments: which is more painful: 1 hit of .38 Special or 5 hits of .25ACP?
  9. luiswoo
    luiswoo April 4 2013 15: 38 New
    +2
    And the meaning of automatic fire with such a cartridge? Fear to catch up?
    I read, as one man, with a broken jaw, ribs and a damaged lung, marked a gopnik-gadfly (it looked like it was before the cartridge was reduced in power) to a vegetable state - I was seriously scared for my life and health ...
    ... something similar in weight and size with 10-14 cartridges .40S & W with expansive bullets ...

    Well, it’s already saliva, the artillery is practically ... And the expansive bullets, are they selling to civilians somewhere?
    1. scrabler
      April 4 2013 16: 11 New
      +1
      Sell, but not with us)))
      1. I think so
        I think so April 4 2013 16: 40 New
        +1
        And thank God ...
        1. luiswoo
          luiswoo April 4 2013 17: 14 New
          +1
          And thank God ...

          So what? What is an expansive bullet worse than a shotgun buckshot? Which, by the way, if stored according to the law, while you open the drawer and equip it, in which case, you may no longer need it ...
      2. Ch0sen1
        Ch0sen1 April 4 2013 16: 45 New
        +2
        It is a pity 10 mm Auto was not widely used, it turned out to be too tender, when the Colt Delta of elites appeared, I almost choked with saliva repeat
        1. the47th
          the47th April 4 2013 17: 43 New
          +3
          Delta Elite is ugly. As ugly as ugly 1911 can be. Here Wilson Combat is beauty! For $ 5000.
    2. cth; fyn
      cth; fyn April 4 2013 16: 38 New
      +1
      they are just civilian and are sold as banned by warriors. The British were the first to use expansive bullets against the demonstration (where I don’t remember, at least kill), the effect was such that the German warriors were outraged that it violates the laws of war (yes, yes, then they respected these laws, they signaled before torpedoing, they didn’t use the wavy blade ...) and they were almost immediately banned for military use. more details can be found here:
      http://my.mail.ru/community/letchiki_stalker/47AB2B1127AB228A.html
      1. anomalocaris
        anomalocaris April 5 2013 13: 13 New
        0
        They didn’t disperse the demonstrations there ... And India was robbed. When the British Army adopted the Li-Metford rifle with a shell bullet, it turned out that it did not have sufficient stopping and lethal action (remember Louis Boussenard’s passages about the “humane” bullet?). Especially for stoned comrades. And this subject, having received even a few extra holes in his body, could well break the brave and terribly civilized British Ubernsch, like an ace warmer. The proud Britons became thoughtful, and they set up remaking bullets by sawing off part of the shell in the town of Dum Dum, near Calcutta. This action happened if sclerosis has not changed me since 1897 ...
        1. Massik
          Massik April 5 2013 23: 22 New
          0
          In the first world Austrians were not taken prisoner if they found these cartridges .....
          1. anomalocaris
            anomalocaris April 6 2013 04: 47 New
            0
            They motivated the use of half-shell bullets by the fact that Berdan, Gra and Vetterly rifles were fired from our side, firing with completely lead bullets ... The British used MkVII bullets, the Germans used gases. In general, everything is as always - in a war, all means are good, and a raid of civilization flies with a homo, who considers himself a sapiens, flies instantly ...
    3. AlNikolaich
      AlNikolaich April 4 2013 21: 49 New
      +1
      Quote: luiswoo
      And expansive bullets, somewhere they sell to civilians

      Take the shell bullet. With a clerical knife, cut the shell crosswise on the tip of the bullet to the core, and you will be happy! An expansive bullet is ready. At one time I saw home-made doom-doom from the 7,62х39 cartridge brought from Chechnya by the Ministry of Internal Affairs. There the bullet noses were stupidly bitten off by wire cutters! Can you imagine the ballistics? fellow
      1. scrabler
        April 4 2013 21: 54 New
        +2
        And you need to submit injuries sad
    4. Massik
      Massik April 5 2013 23: 20 New
      0
      drilled if hunting), only if you light up exactly you will fall on the bunk, you will not get off with self-defense ...
      1. anomalocaris
        anomalocaris April 6 2013 07: 22 New
        0
        I will tell you a little secret. No need to drill and incise. We just go to the nearest arms store and buy the ammunition that attracts us ... It was in the distant Soviet times that people really cast off military bullets due to the shortage and high cost of special hunting ammunition.
        Under our laws, in principle, it’s absolutely no matter what you take on the attacker with - you will still persist and prove for a long time that you do not belong to the glorious family of dromedaries or Bactrians ...
  10. AlNikolaich
    AlNikolaich April 4 2013 21: 57 New
    +2
    Cyril, thanks! Pleased! The first time I read about Lerker at the Beetle in a book. Intrigued. Now you have, and even with photos! The idea of ​​such a barrel is not without reason! Recently, somewhere in passing passed info about the American PP caliber 22LR, with amazing rate of fire (something around 4000 rds per minute) for the police. And de this trunk bursts through its armor in turn.
    I suppose a short burst of lerker has a good stopping effect. In the manner of buckshot. Anyway it hurts, damn it ... wink
    1. scrabler
      April 4 2013 23: 29 New
      0
      Thank you for your rating) Let's try to look for what kind of animal it is.
      1. anomalocaris
        anomalocaris April 5 2013 13: 16 New
        0
        Why look? American-180, link: http://world.guns.ru/smg/usa/american-10-r.html
  11. Castor oil
    Castor oil April 5 2013 14: 53 New
    0
    Cool dummy wassat
    Thanks to Kirill for the article. fellow
  12. georg737577
    georg737577 April 7 2013 13: 38 New
    0
    In my opinion, the 12-gauge shotgun trimmed with buckshot is an ideal "weapon of self-defense" ...
    Simple, reliable ...